From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 2 11:21:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A82A837B400 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:21:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from TMA-1.brad-x.com (static-b2-191.highspeed.eol.ca [64.56.236.191]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175D443E6E for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:21:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brad@brad-x.com) Received: from brad-x.com (unknown [199.212.61.131]) by TMA-1.brad-x.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A5FC22104A; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:22:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3D4ACD20.5020707@brad-x.com> Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 14:19:12 -0400 From: Brad Laue User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020529 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Shannon -jj Behrens Cc: Joe Marcus Clarke , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Mark.Andrews@isc.org Subject: Re: glib12 port build failure in -stable (update) References: <3D49F8B6.4050204@brad-x.com> <200208020353.g723rIgs034166@drugs.dv.isc.org> <20020802105523.A21391@alicia.nttmcl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Shannon -jj Behrens wrote: >>>I hate to go on a rant, but -STABLE broke three times yesterday, too - >>>this is -STABLE, why is this happening all of a sudden? I'm supposed to >>>be able to put implicit faith in it! >>> >>>I don't think there should be much room for error in the -STABLE branch; >>>too much is riding on it. Four hours of troubleshooting an apache server >>>which was down for the count. What is it they say about time being money? >>> >>>Anyway, enough of me flaming, I'm just a little surprised, is all. >> >> Please go read the stable archives. This topic has been covered >> *many* times. > > > Just to save everyone some time, here is a quote from the handbook: > > This is still a development branch, however, and this means that at any > given time, the sources for FreeBSD-STABLE may or may not be suitable > for any particular purpose. It is simply another engineering > development track, not a resource for end-users. > > ... > > For these reasons, we do not recommend that you blindly track > FreeBSD-STABLE, and it is particularly important that you do not update > any production servers to FreeBSD-STABLE without first thoroughly > testing the code in your development environment. > > If you do not have the resources to do this then we recommend that you > run the most recent release of FreeBSD, and use the binary update > mechanism to move from release to release. > > > > Best Regards, > -jj > You're not appreciating the fact that I'm referring to the fundamental nature of the commits made to -STABLE of late. I do not need to be quoted chapter and verse from the handbook, I am quite familiar with the process of research. Brad -- // -- http://www.BRAD-X.com/ -- // To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message