From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 22 02:21:51 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A6F16A41F for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 02:21:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com (dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com [68.99.120.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08C0243D45 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2005 02:21:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com) Received: from dns1 ([64.58.171.82]) by dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051022022157.PTCI7750.dukecmmtao02.coxmail.com@dns1>; Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:21:57 -0400 From: Vizion To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:16:43 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <43522953.6050700@ebs.gr> <200510211707.29223.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> <200510211834.28658.ringworm01@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200510211834.28658.ringworm01@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510211916.46375.vizion@vizion.occoxmail.com> Cc: Mark Linimon , Roman Neuhauser Subject: Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 02:21:51 -0000 On Friday 21 October 2005 18:34, the author Michael C. Shultz contributed to the dialogue on- Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports: >On Friday 21 October 2005 17:07, Vizion wrote: >> On Friday 21 October 2005 16:59, the author Roman Neuhauser contributed >> to the dialogue on- >> >> Re: [SUGGEST] Reform eclipse and eclipse related ports: >> ># linimon@lonesome.com / 2005-10-21 17:39:58 -0500: >> >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 03:19:47PM -0700, Michael C. Shultz wrote: >> >> > Seems like the quantity of ports available will eventually hit a >> >> > plateau with the current two level directory structure. No one is >> >> > afraid to update the basic OS when its needed, even when it means >> >> > using an entirly different file system ( ie. UFS1 -=> 2 ), why be so >> >> > scared when it comes to the ports system? >> >> Good point >> >> I know my opinion might be regarded as ecentric but, as I see it, the >> community is spending far too much od its developmental resopurces on >> advancing the operating system and far too little on bringing user >> interfaces and convenience up to date. >> >> I see it as time to slow down on OS development and really focus on >> bringing the operating system management to a level that accords with >> comparable modern day standards. > >I completely agree with slowing down on OS developement , it seems pointless >to race for higher version numbers while problems remain with previous >versions. As far as the ports system goes though, to date FreeBSD is way >ahead of every other OS I've looked at IMO, of corse that is a poor excuse > to stagnate. I agree with what you say. It is because the ports system is so good that I want: a) o see it used to the full despite its limitations (everything can be mafe better and its easier to make better things excelllent that things that have been done less well!! :-) b) Because the ports system provides a sound starting point for a thoughtfully designed system wide management GUI built either by using mysql/apache/php or through using something like eclipse. c) building a modern system management interface needs OS development to slow down while user interface systems catch up .. then we have a basis to really go forward My two pennorth david > >-Mike > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- 40 yrs navigating and computing in blue waters. English Owner & Captain of British Registered 60' bluewater Ketch S/V Taurus. Currently in San Diego, CA. Sailing bound for Europe via Panama Canal after completing engineroom refit.