From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 18 15:29:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88A481065670; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:29:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kensmith@cse.buffalo.edu) Received: from localmailB.acsu.buffalo.edu (localmail.buffalo.edu [128.205.5.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DC18FC17; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:29:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localmailB.acsu.buffalo.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id C296D644; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:12:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localmailB.acsu.buffalo.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localmailB.acsu.buffalo.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 164A5469; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:12:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mweb1.acsu.buffalo.edu (mweb1.acsu.buffalo.edu [128.205.5.238]) by localmailB.acsu.buffalo.edu (Prefixe) with ESMTP id 0C7A76F1; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:12:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [128.205.32.76] (bauer.cse.buffalo.edu [128.205.32.76]) by mweb1.acsu.buffalo.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75935B0016; Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:12:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Smith To: Alexey Dokuchaev In-Reply-To: <20090918150730.GA18347@FreeBSD.org> References: <200909181453.n8IEr1xJ093865@svn.freebsd.org> <20090918150730.GA18347@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-xTe9v65wJ+MAJVEwPTtW" Organization: U. Buffalo CSE Department Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:12:30 -0400 Message-Id: <1253286750.18414.5.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-PM-EL-Spam-Prob: : 8% Cc: svn-src-head@FreeBSD.ORG, svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG, src-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, Ken Smith Subject: Re: svn commit: r197313 - head/release X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:29:36 -0000 --=-xTe9v65wJ+MAJVEwPTtW Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 15:07 +0000, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 02:53:01PM +0000, Ken Smith wrote: > > Author: kensmith > > Date: Fri Sep 18 14:53:01 2009 > > New Revision: 197313 > > URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/197313 > >=20 > > Log: > > Have sparc64 join the separate livefs crowd. Including the docs pack= ages > > on disc1 (needed now by sysinstall) overflows the target CDROM iso si= ze. >=20 > I've always been wondering how could docs be more important than livefs? > I'd rather have -docs iso (which I won't ever download anyways) than > -livefs one (which is needed far more often, e.g. to fix botched or > corrupted installation) in addition to disc1. >=20 > ./danfe Bottom line on this one is that what's better for novice users is winning out over what's better for more advanced users. Having sysinstall do its thing with minimal effort (have everything it *needs* available on the same disc) gives us less of a black eye when novices try it, the folks who barely know what they're doing but write reviews for magazines/blogs/etc try it, etc... --=20 Ken Smith - From there to here, from here to | kensmith@cse.buffalo.edu there, funny things are everywhere. | - Theodore Geisel | --=-xTe9v65wJ+MAJVEwPTtW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkqzo14ACgkQ/G14VSmup/b0fgCgmU8BIWbcuXHqe85vhvBjML9r k7cAn0ruZj1FC1g2uFzPlFx4AsALMM/X =G+Wz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-xTe9v65wJ+MAJVEwPTtW--