From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 11 05:57:57 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D7616A4CE for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 05:57:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (mailout1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.0.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185B343D41 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 05:57:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from langd@informatik.tu-muenchen.de) Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 14:55:30 +0200 From: Daniel Lang To: Jon Noack Message-ID: <20040411125530.GA45531@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <001401c41f21$9634efd0$1e64a8c0@spotripoli.local> <1747.192.168.1.9.1081619654.squirrel@www.noacks.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1747.192.168.1.9.1081619654.squirrel@www.noacks.org> X-Geek: GCS/CC d-- s: a- C++$ UBS++++$ P+++$ L- E-(---) W+++(--) N++ o K w--- O? M? V? PS+(++) PE--(+) Y+ PGP+ t++ 5+++ X R+(-) tv+ b+ DI++ D++ G++ e+++ h---(-) r++>+++ y+ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at informatik.tu-muenchen.de cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: LOR: sys/kern/sys_generic.c:902 sys/fs/specfs/spec_vnops.c:387 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 12:57:57 -0000 Hi John, Jon Noack wrote on Sat, Apr 10, 2004 at 12:54:14PM -0500: [..] > I got this same one today. Seems like this one even has a PR: > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/55175 > > Like I said, I'm not going to put any work into the web page until I find > someone to commit a pointer to it when you get a lock order reversal. > Otherwise, the page is of limited value (we will still get peppered with > questions on the list). Why do you insist on the pointer to be present before you start your webpage? You are making a chicken-egg-problem out of it, while there is no need. IMHO a webpage with information, but no prominent pointer is preferred over a pointer in the LOR message to a nonexisting webpage. I am confident, once your webpage is set up and contains some useful information, there is someone, who will add the hint to the error-message. But not the other way round, no one will commit a hint to something, which doesn't exist. Just my 0.02 EUR, Daniel -- IRCnet: Mr-Spock - Me transfere sursum, Caledoni - Daniel Lang * dl@leo.org * +49 89 289 18532 * http://www.leo.org/~dl/