From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 20 22:49:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 910C416A469 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:49:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB9C13C478 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:49:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 5457 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2007 22:49:39 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 20 Nov 2007 22:49:39 -0000 Message-ID: <47436449.4090102@chuckr.org> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:48:41 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071107 SeaMonkey/1.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Moran References: <20071120094009.B630@prime.gushi.org> <20071120115847.e3052dbc.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <4743554C.9090103@web.de> <20071120164801.124a585c.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20071120164801.124a585c.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org, "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" , Tino Engel Subject: Re: What's "unknown" about i386-unknown? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 22:49:40 -0000 Bill Moran wrote: > In response to Tino Engel : > >> Bill Moran schrieb: >>> In response to "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" : >>> >>> >>>> Hey all. >>>> >>>> I see i386-unknown as a build target all the time. >>>> >>>> So my (possibly silly) question is: what's the unknown variable here? And >>>> why isn't it? >>>> >>> I seem to remember a conversation about this, and that the original >>> spec for that string required a "physical location" after the architecture. >>> >>> I'm guessing that at the time it was very important to know which of >>> the few physical machines did the job. >>> >>> If my memory is reliable, it's not that the information is "unknown", it's >>> just that nobody cares any more, therefore nobody bothers to enter the >>> physical location information. >>> >> Well, I actually have i386-portbld-7,0-BETA3. >> How does that fit? > > Don't know. It's entirely possible that I'm remembering wrong. > Geeze, it's unknown, because the GNU autoconf files say so, and it's one heck of a lot easier to just use what they c\say, than to try talking all those stubborn linuxers into changing it. Not all packages that use GNU autoconf have this file, but big ones, like maybe gcc, would have the file config.guess. You run that, and it's announce what it thinks your machine is. If it finds nothing, you're going to have to do a heck of a lot of autoconf editing (I used to do that a lot in the early days of FreeBSD). Glad to be able to say that's a long lost memory, not needed anymore. I just ran "find / -name config.guess" on both my FreeBSD box and my soon to be modified Gentoo box, here's what comes back: ON LINUX sh-3.2# sh /home/chuckr/pda/scripts/config.guess i686-pc-linux-gnu ON FREEBSD :363>sh /usr/local/lib/rpm/config.guess i386-unknown-freebsd8.0 You probably have some junko config.guess files hanging around somewhere, you can try it yourself. Or ask me, I'll mail you one.