From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 22:28:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9052116A475 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 22:28:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7723713C480 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 22:28:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from hymn09.u.washington.edu (hymn09.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.183]) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.05) with ESMTP id l55MRvpu009605 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 5 Jun 2007 15:27:57 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hymn09.u.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l55MRuL4015204; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 15:27:56 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.55.52.3] by hymn09.u.washington.edu via HTTP; Tue, 05 Jun 2007 15:27:56 PDT Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 15:27:56 -0700 (PDT) From: youshi10@u.washington.edu To: eculp@encontacto.net In-Reply-To: <20070605131136.f07dq9qaas8ws4gc@intranet.encontacto.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-PMX-Version: 5.3.1.294258, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.1.298604, Antispam-Data: 2007.6.5.150734 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='NO_REAL_NAME 0, __CP_NAME_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel C2D COREs not used equally in FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 22:28:02 -0000 On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 eculp@encontacto.net wrote: > Quoting Adam K Kirchhoff : > >> On Tuesday 05 June 2007 12:40:34 eculp@encontacto.net wrote: >>> Quoting Garrett Cooper : >>> > Diego Depaoli wrote: >>> >> 2007/6/5, Ed Schouten : >>> >>>> In practice there's (almost) only one reason not to run >>> >>>> FreeBSD/amd64 on amd64-capable hardware: If you depend >>> >>>> on a certain piece of software which is known not to run >>> >>>> correctly in 64bit mode. Fortunately those are not many. >>> >>> >>> >>> I guess most of those are still waiting for a 64-bits nvidia.ko. >>> >> >>> >> That's true. >>> >> Is there any news? >>> > >>> > Yeah, a lot of people are still waiting for that (including me.. >>> > can't get nv to work under amd64 :(...). >>> > We should band together and get nvidia to speed up amd64 >>> > development a bit more *sigh*.. >>> >>> Boy am I glad that I am reading this thread. >>> >>> As weird as it may sound, I was going to go buy a new laptop, amd64 >>> with nvidia. In fact the explanation given by Oliver helped push me >>> over to AMD in addition to past experience has always been good with >>> them. I also had the idea that AMD had purchased a chunk of nvidia >>> which made the decision make even more sense to me. Luckily I saw >>> these, before rather that after the fact. >>> >>> I understand from this that the nvidia will not run the new xorg-7.2 >>> with AMD64? Am I reading this right or am I just having a case of >>> PRE-buyers remorse? ;) >> >> It is true that the closed source nvidia driver will not work on an AMD64 >> system. >> >> However, bear in mind that Xorg does not support any recent AMD cards (X1300 >> or newer) with anything other than the vesa driver. The open source drivers >> support up-to the x850 (actually, the x1050 now, iirc). The AMD/ATI Xpress >> chipsets are supported by the open source 2D drivers, but not (yet) the 3D >> drivers. >> >> Your best bet might be to go with a laptop with intel graphics. > > Hi Adam, > > Back to the drawing board as they say. I've been trying to make that decision > for a couple of weeks now, since my old laptop's disk died. > > I guess you are right but I should probably add a gig of memory to be sure that > all will be well. I had actually thought of upgrading it from one to two and > that just gives me justification ;) > > thanks, > > ed Intel integrated graphics are getting better all the time, their driver's open sourced, and OpenGL compatible. Then again I'm biased because I work for them :). -Garrett