From owner-freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 26 16:51:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4284D431 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 16:51:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wi0-x22e.google.com (mail-wi0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22e]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3BC5AD1 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 16:51:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f174.google.com with SMTP id hj8so1208325wib.13 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 09:51:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=1Si5Mb8GQPN15lXSTpj3e1r+Jbv8dnPJptYe9yo+c94=; b=Vdt6ANTjb/4zXnla+B++rc+Dt4p8tZJ2yGHZJG8267wGXLb+IyeEq4IOh3yVYy56xM wh0FermytHzY0AYZ7IpDeKCt0D0UksA3BNFU5EyWf+1mCRvO5JBDmexfYKSmrLSUpjoI swn8C0r4G56ZM2dxGq/fbDxvvduxIS8mXyUETe4enfS7eOOawpLldOn5KxWbwYPrX7Ta JqSUzwxRmvBmqtdkzDTURaW1NcGeDdAHd/Qes0Y5lfuR9p8dj+TnvMGvz0Qo8ZRFstTc /jSWzh1vLVrmE0n5FXWnAPB9pogVlXz5quK1FwNwEl5T7nv2dzPwCTgkLyyNJ3NPmQDW JvuA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.13.34 with SMTP id e2mr4537559wic.29.1364316685719; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 09:51:25 -0700 (PDT) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.108.130 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 09:51:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5151D045.80305@thieprojects.ch> References: <5DFA61DB-70E4-4C3D-ACA0-995A175706C8@neville-neil.com> <5151B454.9090402@ceetonetechnology.com> <1CBF1416-3237-4DCE-8D61-7E998265C887@neville-neil.com> <1364311809.36972.27.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> <5151D045.80305@thieprojects.ch> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 09:51:25 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Ex7bEgRZlpFD-s6q1IgoLmfYasA Message-ID: Subject: Re: RFC: "Crochet" build tool From: Adrian Chadd To: Werner Thie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the StrongARM Processor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 16:51:27 -0000 .. these are orthogonal problems. NanoBSD being too hard or not. Whether there's a shared cross-platform image builder in -HEAD. Or heck, even just a unified one across ppc, mips, i386/amd64, arm. But these are _two separate problems_. They don't go hand-in-hand. They are only going hand-in-hand right now because they're too confusing for people. But you can fix or replace nanobsd in the base so it can build cross-build targets. My stuff is separate from -HEAD primarily because I haven't yet sat down and finished making it build a UFS image without needing root privileges. Once that's done, I'm going to integrate it into either nanobsd or tinybsd. I'd like to see the ARM side of things do the same, at least for building the OS image. Come on people, step up the game. Adrian