From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 5 22:30:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3276B16A468 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 22:30:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18BC513C4BC for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 22:30:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from hymn09.u.washington.edu (hymn09.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.183]) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.05) with ESMTP id l55MUjdA009731 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 5 Jun 2007 15:30:45 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hymn09.u.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.03) with ESMTP id l55MUjmc019736; Tue, 5 Jun 2007 15:30:45 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [192.55.52.3] by hymn09.u.washington.edu via HTTP; Tue, 05 Jun 2007 15:30:45 PDT Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 15:30:45 -0700 (PDT) From: youshi10@u.washington.edu To: eculp@encontacto.net In-Reply-To: <20070605133924.om35kjhiscg0o0o0@intranet.encontacto.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-PMX-Version: 5.3.1.294258, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.1.298604, Antispam-Data: 2007.6.5.151232 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='SUPERLONG_LINE 0.05, NO_REAL_NAME 0, __CP_NAME_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel C2D COREs not used equally in FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 22:30:54 -0000 On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 eculp@encontacto.net wrote: > Quoting Wesley Shields : > >> On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 11:40:34AM -0500, eculp@encontacto.net wrote: >>> Quoting Garrett Cooper : >>> >>> > Diego Depaoli wrote: >>> >> 2007/6/5, Ed Schouten : >>> >>>> In practice there's (almost) only one reason not to run >>> >>>> FreeBSD/amd64 on amd64-capable hardware: If you depend >>> >>>> on a certain piece of software which is known not to run >>> >>>> correctly in 64bit mode. Fortunately those are not many. >>> >>> >>> >>> I guess most of those are still waiting for a 64-bits nvidia.ko. >>> >> That's true. >>> >> Is there any news? >>> >> >>> > Yeah, a lot of people are still waiting for that (including me.. >>> can't >>> > get nv to work under amd64 :(...). >>> > We should band together and get nvidia to speed up amd64 development >>> a >>> > bit more *sigh*.. >>> >>> Boy am I glad that I am reading this thread. >>> >>> As weird as it may sound, I was going to go buy a new laptop, amd64 with >>> nvidia. In fact the explanation given by Oliver helped push me over to >>> AMD >>> in addition to past experience has always been good with them. I also >>> had >>> the idea that AMD had purchased a chunk of nvidia which made the decision >>> make even more sense to me. Luckily I saw these, before rather that >>> after >>> the fact. >>> >>> I understand from this that the nvidia will not run the new xorg-7.2 with >>> AMD64? Am I reading this right or am I just having a case of PRE-buyers >>> remorse? ;) >> >> Nvidia cards work just fine - just not with the nvidia driver. I'm >> using xorg 7.2 with the nv driver just fine on an AMD64 laptop. >> >> -- WXS >> > > Wesley, you made my day. Thanks. To show my ignorance, I thought the nv > driver was synonymous with the nvidia driver. I use nv for all my desktops > with AMD but they are not AMD64 and they work great. > > Thanks a lot, > > ed nv will always work with nVidia chipsets (until the maintainer at nVidia stops supporting it :)..) because it's completely open sourced. As for the nvidia driver, like was stated earlier, it's close sourced, and only works on i386 now. -Garrett