From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 19 21:24:43 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA84B1065676 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:24:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from deischen@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.netplex.net (mail.netplex.net [204.213.176.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6570F8FC18 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:24:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sea.ntplx.net (sea.ntplx.net [204.213.176.11]) by mail.netplex.net (8.14.4/8.14.4/NETPLEX) with ESMTP id o2JLOWwM028421; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:24:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS and Clam AntiVirus (mail.netplex.net) X-Greylist: Message whitelisted by DRAC access database, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (mail.netplex.net [204.213.176.10]); Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:24:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:24:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Eischen X-X-Sender: eischen@sea.ntplx.net To: d@delphij.net In-Reply-To: <4BA3E9DF.2050303@delphij.net> Message-ID: References: <4BA2CE17.2050105@delphij.net> <201003190751.26767.jhb@freebsd.org> <4BA3C41F.3000404@elischer.org> <5BED0721-442C-44B3-8B23-3D94BE5354A9@samsco.org> <4BA3E9DF.2050303@delphij.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Scott Long , Julian Elischer , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Utilize i686, SSE and MMX by default on FreeBSD/i386 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Eischen List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:24:43 -0000 On Fri, 19 Mar 2010, Xin LI wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 2010/03/19 13:15, Daniel Eischen wrote: > [...] >> Well, we have nanobsd, but having a suitable install tool >> for small flash-based systems where you want a nanobsd-like >> setup (readonly filesystems) would be very nice. I try >> to write procedures for our embedded systems so others >> (neophytes) can create and burn them, but it might be >> easier for someone to get started with embedded systems >> if they could do it from a release using an install tool. > > Some computation intense tasks would benefit from enabling certain > optimizations which is not suitable for older processors. > > However, just like John said servers tends to use 64-bit platform more > than 32-bit ones, so perhaps we can just dismiss the idea of enabling > these optimizations on FreeBSD/i386 platform and focus on FreeBSD/amd64... Perhaps I was wrong, but I thought Scott's question was more general: is there a desire for a special installation suitable to small appliances (usually flash-based)? Sorry, I didn't mean to steal the thread. -- DE