From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Feb 5 20:15:46 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65FE37B401 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 20:15:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from seed.net.tw (sn15.seed.net.tw [139.175.54.15]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1971543F93 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 20:15:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leafy@leafy.idv.tw) Received: from [211.74.135.112] (port=49302 helo=leafy.idv.tw) by seed.net.tw with esmtp (Seednet 4.10:3) id 18gdRl-0006uP-00 for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 12:15:33 +0800 Received: from leafy.idv.tw (nobody@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leafy.idv.tw (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h164FW4F055977 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 12:15:32 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from leafy@leafy.idv.tw) Received: (from leafy@localhost) by leafy.idv.tw (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h164FVtr055976 for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 12:15:31 +0800 (CST) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 12:15:31 +0800 From: leafy To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: To back Bill up Message-ID: <20030206041531.GA54558@leafy.idv.tw> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John, this looks nasty, I mean on your part. I think what Bill demanded was resonable -- just an explaination or some respect for his hard work. As a regular Java user on Freebsd, I really cannot fully express my gratitude towards Bill for his Hotspot work. From what I read in the "full conversation", you never answered his question of "Why am I not informed". There is no doubt that I'll be trying out Alexey's work soon, but it does not mean that I will overlook what Bill had done. I think bad politics is getting into FreeBSD (just look at -chat) and how many good hackers like Bill do we have to lose? Jiawei Ye -- "Without the userland, the kernel is useless." --inspired by The Tao of Programming To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message