From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Sep 8 16:16:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA03837 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:16:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp02.primenet.com (smtp02.primenet.com [206.165.6.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA03772 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:16:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr01.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp02.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13509; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:16:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr01.primenet.com(206.165.6.201) via SMTP by smtp02.primenet.com, id smtpd013478; Tue Sep 8 16:16:18 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr01.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA18863; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:16:02 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199809082316.QAA18863@usr01.primenet.com> Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 6 days to C-DAY To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 23:16:02 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, oppermann@pipeline.ch, ben@rosengart.com, mike@smith.net.au, doconnor@gsoft.com.au, chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <9183.905286062@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Sep 8, 98 01:21:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > The only problem I can see is the new US copyright law; it's no longer > > > allowed to have/produce/sell technologie that enables you copy/analyse/ > > > modify copyrighted work. > > > > Utter bilge. > > Ummm. What the hell is this doing in -current? Mike gave the rationale for not fixing something under CAM that used to work without CAM as "if you are doing this, you are pirating music, so there's no reason to fix this anyway". While including a smiley, it seemed an attempt to chagrin the questioner out of asking for what I believe is a perfectly reasoanble functionality for the CAM driver, to wit: support for, minimally, SCSI II audio data reading. You also clipped out the part about the Toshiba 3401B. The Toshiba was the first CDROM drive available in the US, seperately from the need to purchase an SGI system to get the Hitachi drive, that could read audio data off of CD's. I know, because this is the reason that I bought the thing. Using raw SCSI commands to read audio data off this driver works under CAM, just as it always has without CAM. > darn bit of difference when it comes to continuing a clearly > inappropriate thread on a mailing list. Moved to -chat. KEEP it > there, dammit! I think you are omitting context to the point that it really does belong on -chat; but without that context diked out, the response to Mike's justification for not having audio track reading support in CAM stands on its own: his claims of illegality are specious. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message