From owner-freebsd-current Fri Aug 23 21:32:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3389637B400 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 21:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpauth2-ext.prodigy.net (smtpauth2-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.116]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DBA643E6E for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2002 21:32:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jimit@prodigy.net) Received: from win1 (crtntx1-ar1-4-60-243-096.crtntx1.dsl-verizon.net [4.60.243.96]) (authenticated) by smtpauth2-ext.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g7O4WP6195866; Sat, 24 Aug 2002 00:32:26 -0400 Message-ID: <017d01c24b27$48349ad0$60f33c04@win1> From: "Jimi Thompson" To: "Matthew Dillon" , "John Chang" Cc: References: <20020823225907.970A32A7D6@canning.wemm.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20020823203246.02406df0@j.imap.itd.umich.edu> <4.3.2.7.2.20020823220711.02345070@j.imap.itd.umich.edu> Subject: Re: Barebone system rackmount Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 23:32:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mac XServers ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Chang" To: "Matthew Dillon" Cc: Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 9:38 PM Subject: Re: Barebone system rackmount > I am a system administrator for Win2k/NT and Apple servers but have very > little experience with linux/freeBSD and Apache. > > At 06:21 PM 8/23/2002 -0700, Matthew Dillon wrote: > > >:Do you know where I could get a good server rackmount barebones system or a > >:rackmount server with FreeBSD installed? > >: > >:I am looking to use it for a Web server using Apache. And would you know > >:where I can buy Apache that is more secure out of the box? > >: > >:I basically have very little experience with FreeBSD and Apache but since > >:it is one of the most secure OSs I thought I would use it. The alternative > >:is using Win2k Adv. Server and IIS or Apache. > >: > >:Do you think it is possible to be able to manage a webserver with very > >:little experience with FreeBSD and Apache? > >: > >:Anyone in Ann Arbor/Detroit Michigan with experience who can help me set > >it up? > >: > >:Thank you. > > > > Well, FreeBSD is like other open source OSs (for example, Linux) in that > > it will run on just about any PC. I can't help you in regards to > > finding a rackmount system but I can give you some hints in regards to > > FreeBSD and Apache. It's hard to find a good starting point because > > I don't know what experience you *do* have... for example, have you > > played with Linux at all? Have you ever installed Windows on a machine? > > > > Generally speaking a person exposed to an open-source system for the > > first time, such as FreeBSD (or Linux, or NetBSD, or OpenBSD, or > > whatever) has a small hurdle to leap over which is the fact that > > the installation sequence presumes a certain degree of knowledge about > > UNIX. For example even the best GUI installer gives you the chance > > to 'partition the hard drive'. But if you don't know what that means > > you can wind up stuck and confused even if the installer gives you a > > default way of doing things. Only so much can be hidden by a GUI > > installer and the more software you install and manage, the more you > > are exposed to the innards of the operating system. > > > > What I recommend more then anything else is: > > > > (1) Get or burn the CDs and just start playing with FreeBSD on a > > box you can afford to blow away (the disk) on. > > > > (2) Locate a friend or associate who already has some experience > > with open-source operating systems and ask him to help you get > > things going. Having someone show you the ropes in-person is a > > thousand times more effective then over a mailing list. > > > > With that all said you basically install FreeBSD from the CDRom set. > > http://www.freebsd.org is a good starting point. You don't have to > > purcahse the CDs, you can locate the ISO images, download, and burn > > the CDs yourself. Then install and you are on your way! Once you > > have the system operational you can install various ports and packages > > using the FreeBSD ports system. It's not really possible to go into > > full detail because that would take days to explain. > > > > For someone just starting out, be sure to install a -stable release of > > FreeBSD. Do not try to install the -current development version. > > > > -Matt > > Matthew Dillon > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message