From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 28 00:36:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B61DB963 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 00:36:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from velcroleaf@rocketmail.com) Received: from nm16-vm2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm16-vm2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.177.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7E1A9CC7 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 00:36:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.137.12.62] by nm16.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Mar 2013 00:34:34 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.224] by tm7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Mar 2013 00:34:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1032.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Mar 2013 00:34:34 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 375515.80036.bm@omp1032.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 91180 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Mar 2013 00:34:34 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s1024; t=1364430874; bh=46PawcI2EZQ0BbZMoREgiMe1Zc06KmWcsCO3rG4c+DU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=TNcG9laLZ7rB2uGtUb4NkSsPtyxAFrusEvXxtrHc3Kw9QBXIvvWt8Xg7pZPyJzjrVUQnqFJ8gX4oNfBxjCbLzzoVLzTSz8xlGIMvYKEnPP3Bwnoyh14Q8/1Wu1gE+EtpeHcA9wfR979+0TCxI3Z1hnh6Bfkdz+6Ri8UD8efPqtU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rocketmail.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=3W9aboHH6Ls8i9LioQiatZY6dqY3stCfOshlIV7Ih4/x8r8G0hlrYuN67ovkORMnes0M5vL4Bao/XhI9mUjyl3Y8RAHAjCBGZGxdpYfIoEAEP12pL7yg3d8JuTnVO2+j/qpOO24AGk0SrFiK5iAAMSHN4MbEUA7vuOg2MuBeO0s=; X-YMail-OSG: OHdFQqUVM1kMdQc.ONNwbYWCR4HHweVbiDG4gtlgIOcfHW3 QCN5qIYSD8vkCs0CTqxzHrvhLlVx5d1IVFTzVb.v9zK7aVha7_64TrMEO9f2 UdpjOq69gyDyl02_BDGHsJswgpfvadTA0KBxnBCs4291Rw1sWt7jK6js6WgK gYm3K9.y0NJxmUkZXlEepxDMrHlST7pej_mzWNLdVly1BPWJb4hciVq.f48y udaL7f0RFmC5IsXh9pDEklFGWSP0UrF6mBrZODy6CrreewcZce4gWkHz0e.H xdV_7UhZEWAvOb1QpjCMKg8tqBq2.W0OmA65AbwDEjScIVVchSD5hHc434oR v9AHy.vyReutdNCFBhtVsLSgPJiA9YmhqmO.v2ntvqDD1zI0wDvncqg_x2SN ahOuD9AXANwJTfJ8WJwzvtyu_.0T919qG_Qy4D5NhUkaVKnaZIX.BaRvW1Kh RVvqUvS1rGYl3F3rQAadqCETwBQ-- Received: from [192.70.171.82] by web164505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 17:34:34 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001, wqBCZW5qYW1pbiBLYWR1ayB3cm90ZToKCj4gQXQgdGhpcyBwb2ludCwgSSB0aGluayB0aGUgbW9zdCB1c2VmdWwgaW5mb3JtYXRpb24gd291bGQgYmUgdGhlIGtlcm5lbCBtZXNzYWdlcyAKPiBmcm9tIHNodXRkb3duIHRpbWUsIHByaW50ZWQgb24gdGhlIGNvbnNvbGUuwqAgRG8geW91IGhhdmUgYSBzZXJpYWwgY29uc29sZSAobWFrZXMgCj4gdGhpcyBlYXN5KT8gT3RoZXJ3aXNlLCB5b3UgbWF5IGhhdmUgdG8gdGFrZSBhIHBpY3R1cmUgb3IgdmlkZW8gb2YgdGhlIG1hY2hpbmUgYXMgCj4gaXQgc2h1dHMgZG8BMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.139.530 References: <1364380546.45116.YahooMailNeo@web164504.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1364403642.40164.YahooMailNeo@web164501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1364430874.88614.YahooMailNeo@web164505.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 17:34:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Velcro Leaf Subject: Re: filesystems don't properly dismount To: Benjamin Kaduk In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-fs@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Velcro Leaf List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 00:36:44 -0000 =A0Benjamin Kaduk wrote:=0A=0A> At this point, I think the most useful info= rmation would be the kernel messages =0A> from shutdown time, printed on th= e console.=A0 Do you have a serial console (makes =0A> this easy)? Otherwis= e, you may have to take a picture or video of the machine as =0A> it shuts = down.=0A=0AThe video was a great idea.=A0 I'm glad I didn't put forth the e= ffort to dust off an old terminal, because now the two servers are quietly = and happily rebooting.=A0 This is good news, but also annoying.=0A=0AIt's p= ossible that every time I saw the system reboot sloppily, it was still in t= he process of being updated (that is, only part of the way through the free= bsd-update procedure).=0A=0AOnce I noticed the issue, I stopped rebooting u= nnecessarily, so it could be that I stopped rebooting right at the point at= which things worked themselves out.=0A=0AI've got some kernel tweaking to = do, so if the issue comes back, I'll be ready with the video.=A0 No more re= booting remotely until I either catch it in the act or give up the hunt.=0A= =0AThanks for your response, it helped me get a little farther down the roa= d.=0A