From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Oct 11 20:32:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA25623 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 20:32:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA25618 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 20:32:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA12641 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 20:32:02 -0700 (PDT) To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: fnord0: disabled, not probed. Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 20:32:02 -0700 Message-ID: <12637.876627122@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If memory serves me correctly, I'm actually responsible for this often-seen boot-time message and, if so, just let me be the first to say that I've begun to hate the stupid thing. If I've gone and disabled something in the userconfig menu then I *know* I disabled it and I really don't need the driver to take up a line of valuable scroll-back buffer space in telling me what I already know. Were this eliminted, the boot messages would take up about half the space they do now and, being far more concise, would be much easier to scan for problems. The only conceivable counter-argument I can see concerns the psm0 entry which is disabled by default in the distributed GENERIC, it being a plausible argument that the "psm0: disabled, not probed." message at boot-time served as a much needed indicator of its disabled state should the user actually want to have it enabled. On the other hand, I seem to recall some folks also talking about the ps/2 mouse driver finally reaching a level of maturity where it could just be enabled by default, and I'd rather have that happen in any case if it's possible. That would leave just sio2 and sio3 disabled by default and, frankly, I think that anyone with 4 serial devices is going to need to be fairly PC-literate anyway, certainly enough to go check the userconfig settings whether prompted to do so or not. So what do folks think, can I kill it? [he said already knowing that at least one dissenting vote will come from bde, great champion of chatty kernels that he is. ;-)] Jordan