From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 28 20:25:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08DE716A421 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:25:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from smtp2.tls.net (smtp2.tls.net [65.196.224.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADCCB13C4D9 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:25:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 17839 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2007 20:25:52 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.2.3 ppid: 17827, pid: 17835, t: 0.1509s scanners: attach: 1.2.3 clamav: 0.91.1/m:45 spam: 3.2.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on smtp-2.tls.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=20.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=disabled version=3.2.1 Received: from 208-70-40-123.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.0.109?) (ldg%tls.net@208.70.40.123) by auth-smtp2.tls.net with ESMTPA; 28 Dec 2007 20:25:52 -0000 Message-ID: <47755C44.3060904@pixelhammer.com> Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:27:48 -0500 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 'User Questions' References: <477538C2.3070204@pixelhammer.com> <20071228133002.6u0muqaqokkc4wws@newwebmail.jnielsen.net> In-Reply-To: <20071228133002.6u0muqaqokkc4wws@newwebmail.jnielsen.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Small Unix install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:25:54 -0000 John Nielsen wrote: > Is there a reason a standard installation of FreeBSD 4/6/7 won't work > for you? Just do a minimal install of the OS from CD or network then > install [parts of] X, fluxbox, and your other apps from ports or > packages and away you go. You could weigh the benefits [possible memory > savings] of compiling your own kernel against the time and disk space > required, but you shouldn't ever have to build world or ports unless you > feel so inclined, especially now that freebsd-update is part of the base > system. > Time and effort. I barely use the internet personally and I didn't want to spend the time to setup a new install, ports, kernel, etc. I do that 60 hours a week for a living, it ceased being fun for me a long time ago. Darren Spruell wrote: > Yes, there's plenty of options for very small Unix installs. Those > you've tried have been the modern desktop-oriented distributions of > FreeBSD and they of course don't shoot for the older class of systems. > Unix has resisted bloat It was the off chance I could install them and just not use the parts I didn't need. I figured it was a long shot but it only took 30 minutes during lunch to find out if they would work. All of my machines are servers, web/radius/SQL/ftp/email/bacula/streaming/etc. I spend all day in terminal sessions, my experience with X in the last 7 years is minimal ;^) I may just have to spend the time to do an install, install some ports, configure X, configure the wireless card, and configure printing. I appreciate the responses, thanks. DAve -- Google finally, after 7 years, provided a logo for veterans. Thank you Google. What to do with my signature now?