From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 31 14:18:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 862E4106566B for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2011 14:18:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.smeelen@ose.nl) Received: from mail.ose.nl (mail.ose.nl [212.178.134.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED358FC13 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2011 14:18:18 +0000 (UTC) X-Footer: b3NlLm5s Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.ose.nl (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES256-SHA (256 bits)) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 31 Dec 2011 15:18:15 +0100 Message-ID: <4EFF19A7.2060800@ose.nl> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 15:18:15 +0100 From: Bas Smeelen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201112302138.pBULcZfw076474@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals Documentation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 14:18:19 -0000 On 12/31/2011 01:02 PM, Joe Gain wrote: > Writers who rely on ideological positions such as (socialism || fascism || > jedi-knight == good | bad) really need to go visit a social science mailing > list. It's not like political/ religious mailing lists don't exist. > > My positivist take on things: > > 1. Nobody is stopping anybody from changing their freebsd kernel. The same > cannot be said of MS Windows. Documentation is an excuse. FreeBSD is very well documented! I guess a lot of people can't cope with how structured and professional it is. They are used to chaos, fear, uncertainty and doubt and feel comfortable that way. > > 2. FreeBsd is a main-stream O/S-- just look at the number of different > architectures/applications which are supported by FreeBSD. Main stream and top player for web and internet servers > > 3. FreeBSD isn't even hard to use, if you only want to use it like 80% of > computer users, to run your web browser, watch videos and listen to music. > People who consider it difficult might like to remember their first > experiences with learning windows. I guess PCBSD is easier and better for the average desktop user, those guys do a good job at this! FreeBSD is the easiest to use for me on servers and even on the desktop but I still have a linux ubuntu desktop though To get a good desktop going without initial internet connection it is a daunting task on FreeBSD > > 4. Drivers aren't really a limitation. Look at the history of computing, > that modern O/S support such diverse platforms is an amazing development. > As far as I'm concerned, FreeBSD supports main stream components, there are > no classes of components that I'm aware of which aren't supported by > FreeBSD. If you need to use a particular device, for which there is no > driver, historically it's not unusual to find that on any particular > platform a particular device is not supported. It supports most things except the things you wouldn't want anyway > > 5. Nobody is making anyone use FreeBSD. It's free. If you don't enjoy it, > don't use it. Maybe remove yourself from the mailing list-- or don't, if > you just want to stay informed. If you don't like it, please leave, there are a lot of alternatives > > Normative takes: > > 6. Is FreeBSD better than windows? For me it is. For me it's stabler. What > I remember from using windows, and what I'm aware of, from people around me > who use windows is that over time, the system seems to degrade. This leads > to really major actions such as re-installation every 6mths or so. And... It is! > > 7. The temptation to install illegal software on MS Windows is very high. > Who wants to pay for every little gimmicky app? Who can afford to pay for > some major applications, which are needed for studying etc.? This often > leads to an unstable system and security problems. The ports system in > comparison is a much preferred "software/ application distribution system" > because at least you get to look at the source code, if you want to. Most windows users and professionals I know are plane thieves, it is just easy for hem to get away with it. It's not my cup -o- joe and I refuse to be like that, no illegal software for me. > > 8. It's an individual choice. Depends what you use your computer for. > maths/R is one of my favorite applications and it even runs on windows. It's all about choice and I'd rather learn from history than repeat it over and over > > May the force be with you! Use the force Luke, read the source :) Cheers Disclaimer: http://www.ose.nl/email