From owner-cvs-all Thu Sep 7 14:34:41 2000 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D29637B422; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:34:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA68569; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:34:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com) To: Nik Clayton Cc: mjacob@feral.com, Warner Losh , "David E. O'Brien" , cvs-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Project management [was Re: cvs commit: src/sys/boot/common boot.c] In-Reply-To: Message from Nik Clayton of "Thu, 07 Sep 2000 21:19:12 BST." <20000907211912.C20005@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 14:34:12 -0700 Message-ID: <68565.968362452@winston.osd.bsdi.com> From: Jordan Hubbard Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > The point is not that you, or I, do all the work. The point (and in > particular, the point of the conspectus stuff) was to encourage other > people to feel like they could contribute, with the carrot being a > committership if they were committed enough (no pun intended). The Linux > folks manage it, the Perl folks manage it. . . They do manage it, but for a fairly loose definition of "manage." Perl does benefit greatly by being able to cross the boundries of OS religion and get volunteers from all corners of the global OS community whereas Linux, I would argue, actually makes much of its progress in parallel rather than seeing all that effort going into any single variant. How much does Red Hat benefit from the Debian package manager, for example, or Caldera's Novell networking interoperability percolate over to Slackware? We all share a lot of the same problems, it's just Linux which has somehow managed to create the perception of all that wood being behind a single arrowhead. > > You seem to be forgetting that we're volunteer driven again. > > The comment of yours my reply was directed at talked about paid engineers. Ah, my mistake, and all I can say to THAT point is that good engineers are currently pretty hard to find here in the US for any amount of money. :-) > I agree, it's printed, and sat next to me. Why don't we have hordes of > college kids volunteering to contribute, as Linux does? Do we want that, > and if so, how do we attract it? I think we want it, it's just an open question (which I've been searching for an answer to for some time now) as to how to get them. I am disinclined to come to the conclusion that Linux has already snapped up a goodly percentage of the available talent already and we're kinda screwed, but on some days... > Oh, tell me about it. I was all prepared to take a six month sabbattical > once FreeBSD Services ltd got off the ground, and then BSDi go and make > me an offer I can't refuse. Sorry about that. :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message