From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 11 22:38:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81447BF for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 22:38:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baptiste.daroussin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wg0-x22e.google.com (mail-wg0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22e]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F504118E for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 22:38:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f46.google.com with SMTP id c11so2866699wgh.13 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:38:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=Y1vtTaLgHtboghCh1AKMbLd+LyUttDoyVE5a8iz6Clw=; b=cCQAneh09tso84kJBAYQ63YCz++SgikimFCz8NMOrfqo7q22mnSitG4v0oDeOhES1c B+E8hDqIRBH1BKM6/eOUQCr+2MxEijgip0EKC1SWLMpk63+BoNS7AfA96CnLf+oMZUOJ tgVDtfRF7HyqQQH0NcpHEhsBiZYXlMOSVTTSr4lMkz7ZuqIxYnz3heJiXZawyKxMH2xl 2tWykBqVWaaY0CNOPpBGlmrJv6sj/IsKZ7E8ARkZPhJ7U+Nd4sLCP80VEIXONs0UeXci 2p6ZZyZgZ5oB2Ab8LeBJNetSoOCP73ZOVLsSRfTt1em/SQz29A0lsSTA7j1jZYJrN8Wv qhAQ== X-Received: by 10.180.79.229 with SMTP id m5mr2709930wix.39.1370990309532; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:38:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ithaqua.etoilebsd.net (ithaqua.etoilebsd.net. [37.59.37.188]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id b19sm20808210wik.10.2013.06.11.15.38.28 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Baptiste Daroussin Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 00:38:26 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: Matthias Andree Subject: Re: Importing tradcpp (traditional (K&R-style) C macro preprocessor) into base? Message-ID: <20130611223826.GE84600@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> References: <20130611221124.GC84600@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <51B7A370.3010307@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lteA1dqeVaWQ9QQl" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <51B7A370.3010307@gmx.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 22:38:30 -0000 --lteA1dqeVaWQ9QQl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:23:44AM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: > Am 12.06.2013 00:11, schrieb Baptiste Daroussin: > > Hi, > >=20 > > I have been working in importing tradcpp (developped by David A. Hollan= d from > > NetBSD) into the ports tree, it is a traditional (K&R-style) C macro > > preprocessor BSD licensed. I first worked on it so that imake can work = properly > > without gcc. > >=20 > > I discovered that some part of the base system still needs a traditional > > preprocessor, like (calendar), what I propose it to import tradcpp into= the base > > system (not the version in port right now but what will become version = 0.2). > >=20 > > It mostly behave like gcpp, and I'm able to properly use calendar along= with > > tradcpp with this small patch: http://people.freebsd.org/~bapt/tradcpp.= diff > >=20 > > Any objections against me importing it? >=20 > Shouldn't we fix calendar and imake so that they can use a modern cpp, > instead of going back 25 years? Or am I missing the point here? >=20 To be more specific, some people have express some concern about the lack of support for traditional cpp in base, that's why I'm proposing this, now personnaly I don't care if tradcpp remains in ports (for imake, imake is no= t a matter of fixing imake, but rather all the users of imake). If we think it is not worth having a traditional cpp, I won't import it. cpp has not be design at first for this kind of usage, but someone of our vendors rely on a traditional cpp anyway. Just it exists, it is rather small, it is BSDL and actively maintainer, so = :) concerning calendar(1) another approach is available here: bin/178463 regards, Bapt --lteA1dqeVaWQ9QQl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlG3puIACgkQ8kTtMUmk6EzdYgCgtqNOfveEm9viF2H0XI3U246d 9BEAoL+jWdnFQJ3KhFwjs7F6cwTbGBRg =DM1l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lteA1dqeVaWQ9QQl--