From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 0: 9: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from revolution.3-cities.com (revolution.3-cities.com [204.203.224.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C95A014CEE for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 00:08:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn1178.bossig.com [208.26.241.178]) by revolution.3-cities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA23908; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 00:08:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <381BEB24.7383F130@3-cities.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 00:09:24 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Columbia Basin Virtual Community Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Hofmann Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: help on loader.conf References: <38193640.CFFD07B3@t-online.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thomas Hofmann wrote: > > Hi., > I missed ti configure my ethernet card correctly in the beginning of > instalation > I can reconfigure only temporarily now with UserConfig . > But when I boot next time all parameters are lost. > Can I give these parameters to some file in loader.conf or kernel.conf? > and if Yes how is th format. > Or do I have to reinstall the whole system or make a new kernel to get > along? You didn't say what system you were using. I am running 3.3Stable and my NIC parameters go into /etc/rc.conf. I have an ifconfig_fxp0 and a network_interfaces. I use my FreeBSD system as my demand dial router but that is the next level of information. Get your NIC running first. Kent > > If you can help me I'd be glad > > Yours > > Thomas Hofmann > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 0:33:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from monkeys.com (i180.value.net [206.14.136.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E0314C23 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 00:33:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rfg@monkeys.com) Received: from segfault.monkeys.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by monkeys.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA06978 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 00:33:08 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: BIND (8.1.2) reverse mapping for RFC 1918 addresses? - Please Help From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 00:33:08 -0700 Message-ID: <6976.941355188@segfault.monkeys.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm at my wit's end. I'm using the stock bind 8.1.2 that came with FreeBSD 3.3 and I'm having one helluva time getting various reverse mapping stuff working right. I hope somebody will take pity on me and help me with the parts that aren't working. First let me say that all of my forward lookups seem to be working just fine. So that part is alright at least. Also, the reverse lookup for 127.0.0.1 seems to be working OK too. So here are the problems: Problem #1) Regardless of the fact that I seem to have setup my reverse lookup zone properly for the 127.0.0.* zone, every time named starts up it puts an error message in the syslog that says: Oct 31 00:01:48 segfault named[1963]: localhost.rev: No such file or directory What the heck is this "localhost.rev" stuff all about??? I've tried desperately to find out what is causing this message, but to no avail. I even ran "strings" on /usr/sbin/named and grepped the output of that for the string "rev" just to see if the named executable was even creating this message, but no dice. No such string in the executable! So where does this message come from and how can I get it to go away? The message doesn't seem to hurt anything, but it annoys me because I have a bad feeling that it is really trying to tell me that I screwed something up which is very fundamental. Problem #2) Try as I might, I have not been able to setup reverse DNS names for various RFC 1918 reserved IP addresses that I am using behind my firewall. For example, I'd like to setup a PTR record for the address 10.0.0.7 or maybe 192.168.0.7. WHY CAN'T I DO THIS? I have patterned everything I have done after the instructions (from the Grasshopper book) that I used to setup the reverse mapping for 127.0.0.1 and *that* seems to work OK. So why, oh why can't I get the same thing to work in the case of 10.0.0.7? This is *really* aggravating. I'm just building bind 8.2.2 now, and I plan to install it and try it in the vague hope that it may make things better, but I have a bad feeling that doing that won't change a thing. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 1: 9:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B0814DBE for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 01:09:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #3) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org id 11hq35-0004cP-00; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 08:09:11 +0000 Received: from localhost (jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA15790 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 08:09:11 GMT (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 08:09:11 +0000 (GMT) From: J McKitrick To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: fixing broken install... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, i took everyone's advice and tried to figure out everything myself so far. But, i found 2 things that have me stumped. 1. How do i make the xterm in windowmaker go away, so it doesn't start on default? I did this before but i can't for the life of me figure out how. 2. Navigator is looking for ld.so. In my last installation, i installed everything. This time i went smaller. Where can i find this file? ???/libexec/ld.so -jm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 1:44:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 592D914C36 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 01:44:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ron@zappa.demon.nl) Received: from [195.173.232.30] (helo=win98) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 11hrXM-0002Kl-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 09:44:33 +0000 From: "Ron Klinkien" To: Subject: Cannot get userland PPP to workl.... Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:47:02 +0100 Message-ID: <000901bf2384$e269c120$0301a8c0@demon.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I'm trying to get an PPP dialup with one of my ISP's to work, but it just hangsup right after the connect. I have search the mailinglist, archives and newsgroups, found 1 or 2 logs which looks the same to mine, but there was no solution in a reply. I have tried this with two modems, an USR Dual Standard V90 and a 28K8 one, and with two ISP's one that I know supports PAP for sure, they both don't support ogin:--ogin: type of things... I only build a new kernel with tun support and created an ppp.conf Here is my ppp.log after I have executed # ppp -ddial sw Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: ID0: 0 = uu_lock("cuaa1") Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: ID0: 0 = open("/dev/cuaa1", 6) Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Opened /dev/cuaa1 Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: tty_Create: physical (get): fd = 0, iflag = 0, oflag = 0, cflag = 4b00 Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: physical (put): iflag = 201, oflag = 0, cflag = 3cb00 Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: ID0: 0x2816c9d0 = fopen("/var/run/cuaa1.if", "w") Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Connected! Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Phase: deflink: opening -> dial Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Phase: Phone: 0184711054 Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Chat: Send: AT^M Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Chat: Expect(5): OK Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Chat: Received: AT^M^M Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Chat: Received: OK^M Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Chat: Send: AT^M Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Chat: Expect(5): OK Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Chat: Received: AT^M^M Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Chat: Received: OK^M Oct 31 10:28:21 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Chat: Send: ATDT0184711054^M Oct 31 10:28:23 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Chat: Expect(40): CONNECT Oct 31 10:28:45 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Chat: Received: ATDT0184711054^M^M Oct 31 10:28:45 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Chat: Received: CONNECT 28800/ARQ^M Oct 31 10:28:45 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Phase: deflink: dial -> carrier Oct 31 10:28:45 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Using tty_Timeout [0x806f3e8] Oct 31 10:28:45 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: Waiting for carrier Oct 31 10:28:46 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Phase: deflink: /dev/cuaa1: CD detected Oct 31 10:28:46 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Phase: deflink: carrier -> login Oct 31 10:28:46 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Entering tty_Raw Oct 31 10:28:46 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Phase: deflink: login -> lcp Oct 31 10:28:46 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: FSM: Using "deflink" as a transport Oct 31 10:28:46 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Initial --> Closed Oct 31 10:28:46 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Stopped Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Still online Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerStart Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = Stopped Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x336aa763 Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: fsm_Output Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: 01 01 00 18 08 02 07 02 02 06 00 00 00 00 01 04 ................ Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: 05 dc 05 06 33 6a a7 63 ....3j.c Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: proto_LayerPush: Using 0xc021 Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: HDLC: hdlc_Output Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: HDLC: ff 03 c0 21 01 01 00 18 08 02 07 02 02 06 00 00 ...!............ Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: HDLC: 00 00 01 04 05 dc 05 06 33 6a a7 63 8a 69 ........3j.c.i Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: Write Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 7e ff 7d 23 c0 21 7d 21 7d 21 7d 20 7d 38 7d 28 ~.}#.!}!}!} ( Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 7d 22 7d 27 7d 22 7d 22 7d 26 7d 20 7d 20 7d 20 }"}'}"}"}&} } } Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 7d 20 7d 21 7d 24 7d 25 dc 7d 25 7d 26 33 6a a7 } }!}$}%.}%}&3j. Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 63 8a 69 7e c.i~ Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: link_PushPacket: Transmit proto 0xc021 Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: mbuf_Enqueue: len = 1 Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Stopped --> Req-Sent Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: mbuf_Dequeue: queue len = 1 Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: link_Dequeue: Dequeued from queue 1, containing 0 more packets Oct 31 10:28:47 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: DescriptorWrite: wrote 52(52) to 0 Oct 31 10:28:48 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: DescriptorRead: read 53/2048 from 0 Oct 31 10:28:48 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: Read Oct 31 10:28:48 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 00 e0 1c 1c 1c 00 00 c7 1c 00 00 c7 e0 1c 00 00 ................ Oct 31 10:28:48 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 00 e0 00 00 f8 00 00 f8 00 8e 00 00 c0 1c 00 00 ................ Oct 31 10:28:48 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: c0 1c 00 00 c0 00 00 8e 00 8e e0 1c 00 00 00 00 ................ Oct 31 10:28:48 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 00 c7 00 80 e0 ..... Oct 31 10:28:48 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Still online Oct 31 10:28:49 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Still online Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = Req-Sent Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x336aa763 Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: fsm_Output Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: 01 01 00 18 08 02 07 02 02 06 00 00 00 00 01 04 ................ Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: 05 dc 05 06 33 6a a7 63 ....3j.c Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: proto_LayerPush: Using 0xc021 Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: HDLC: hdlc_Output Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: HDLC: ff 03 c0 21 01 01 00 18 08 02 07 02 02 06 00 00 ...!............ Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: HDLC: 00 00 01 04 05 dc 05 06 33 6a a7 63 8a 69 ........3j.c.i Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: Write Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 7e ff 7d 23 c0 21 7d 21 7d 21 7d 20 7d 38 7d 28 ~.}#.!}!}!} }8}( Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 7d 22 7d 27 7d 22 7d 22 7d 26 7d 20 7d 20 7d 20 }"}'}"}"}&} } } Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 7d 20 7d 21 7d 24 7d 25 dc 7d 25 7d 26 33 6a a7 } }!}$}%.}%}&3j. Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 63 8a 69 7e c.i~ Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: link_PushPacket: Transmit proto 0xc021 Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: mbuf_Enqueue: len = 1 Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Still online Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: mbuf_Dequeue: queue len = 1 Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: link_Dequeue: Dequeued from queue 1, containing 0 more packets Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: DescriptorWrite: wrote 52(52) to 0 Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: DescriptorRead: read 1/2048 from 0 Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: Read Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 00 . Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: DescriptorRead: read 12/2048 from 0 Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun 0: Async: Read Oct 31 10:28:50 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 8e 00 80 e0 fc e0 1c 00 00 f8 fc fc ............ Oct 31 10:28:51 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Still online Oct 31 10:28:52 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Still online Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = Req-Sent Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x336aa763 Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: fsm_Output Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: 01 01 00 18 08 02 07 02 02 06 00 00 00 00 01 04 ................ Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: 05 dc 05 06 33 6a a7 63 ....3j.c Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: proto_LayerPush: Using 0xc021 Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: HDLC: hdlc_Output Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: HDLC: ff 03 c0 21 01 01 00 18 08 02 07 02 02 06 00 00 ...!............ Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: HDLC: 00 00 01 04 05 dc 05 06 33 6a a7 63 8a 69 ........3j.c.i Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: Write Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 7e ff 7d 23 c0 21 7d 21 7d 21 7d 20 7d 38 7d 28 ~.}#.!}!}!} ( Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 7d 22 7d 27 7d 22 7d 22 7d 26 7d 20 7d 20 7d 20 }"}'}"}"}&} } } Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 7d 20 7d 21 7d 24 7d 25 dc 7d 25 7d 26 33 6a a7 } }!}$}%.}%}&3j. Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 63 8a 69 7e c.i~ Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: link_PushPacket: Transmit proto 0xc021 Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: mbuf_Enqueue: len = 1 Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Still online Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: mbuf_Dequeue: queue len = 1 Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: link_Dequeue: Dequeued from queue 1, containing 0 more packets Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: DescriptorWrite: wrote 52(52) to 0 Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: DescriptorRead: read 6/2048 from 0 Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: Read Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 00 8e 00 fe 00 f0 ...... Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: DescriptorRead: read 9/2048 from 0 Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: Read Oct 31 10:28:53 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 00 00 80 00 fe 00 fe e0 fc ......... Oct 31 10:28:54 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Still online Oct 31 10:28:55 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Still online Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = Req-Sent Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x336aa763 Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: fsm_Output Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: 01 01 00 18 08 02 07 02 02 06 00 00 00 00 01 04 ................ Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: 05 dc 05 06 33 6a a7 63 ....3j.c Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: proto_LayerPush: Using 0xc021 Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: HDLC: hdlc_Output Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: HDLC: ff 03 c0 21 01 01 00 18 08 02 07 02 02 06 00 00 ...!............ Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: HDLC: 00 00 01 04 05 dc 05 06 33 6a a7 63 8a 69 ........3j.c.i Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: Write Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 7e ff 7d 23 c0 21 7d 21 7d 21 7d 20 7d 38 7d 28 ~.}#.!}!}!} ( Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 7d 22 7d 27 7d 22 7d 22 7d 26 7d 20 7d 20 7d 20 }"}'}"}"}&} } } Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 7d 20 7d 21 7d 24 7d 25 dc 7d 25 7d 26 33 6a a7 } }!}$}%.}%}&3j. Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 63 8a 69 7e c.i~ Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: link_PushPacket: Transmit proto 0xc021 Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: mbuf_Enqueue: len = 1 Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Still online Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: mbuf_Dequeue: queue len = 1 Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: link_Dequeue: Dequeued from queue 1, containing 0 more packets Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: DescriptorWrite: wrote 52(52) to 0 Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: DescriptorRead: read 3/2048 from 0 Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: Read Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 00 8e e0 ... Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: DescriptorRead: read 13/2048 from 0 Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: Read Oct 31 10:28:56 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 00 fe 00 80 e0 fc e0 1c e0 00 00 ff fc ............. Oct 31 10:28:57 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Still online Oct 31 10:28:58 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Still online Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: deflink: SendConfigReq(1) state = Req-Sent Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x336aa763 Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: fsm_Output Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: 01 01 00 18 08 02 07 02 02 06 00 00 00 00 01 04 ................ Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: 05 dc 05 06 33 6a a7 63 ....3j.c Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: proto_LayerPush: Using 0xc021 Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: HDLC: hdlc_Output Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: HDLC: ff 03 c0 21 01 01 00 18 08 02 07 02 02 06 00 00 ...!............ Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: HDLC: 00 00 01 04 05 dc 05 06 33 6a a7 63 8a 69 ........3j.c.i Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: Write Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 7e ff 7d 23 c0 21 7d 21 7d 21 7d 20 7d 38 7d 28 ~.}#.!}!}!} }8}( Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 7d 22 7d 27 7d 22 7d 22 7d 26 7d 20 7d 20 7d 20 }"}'}"}"}&} } } Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 7d 20 7d 21 7d 24 7d 25 dc 7d 25 7d 26 33 6a a7 } }!}$}%.}%}&3j. Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 63 8a 69 7e c.i~ Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: link_PushPacket: Transmit proto 0xc021 Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: mbuf_Enqueue: len = 1 Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Still online Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: mbuf_Dequeue: queue len = 1 Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: link_Dequeue: Dequeued from queue 1, containing 0 more packets Oct 31 10:28:59 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: DescriptorWrite: wrote 52(52) to 0 Oct 31 10:29:00 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: DescriptorRead: read 5/2048 from 0 Oct 31 10:29:00 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: Read Oct 31 10:29:00 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: fc e0 1c e0 fc ..... Oct 31 10:29:00 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: DescriptorRead: read 16/2048 from 0 Oct 31 10:29:00 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: Read Oct 31 10:29:00 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Async: 00 00 80 00 fe e0 00 80 00 fe 00 00 ff 00 00 c7 ................ Oct 31 10:29:00 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: S till online Oct 31 10:29:01 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Still online Oct 31 10:29:02 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: deflink: LayerFinish Oct 31 10:29:02 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Req-Sent --> Stopped Oct 31 10:29:02 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Stopped --> Closed Oct 31 10:29:02 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: LCP: deflink: State change Closed --> Initial Oct 31 10:29:02 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Disconnected! Oct 31 10:29:02 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Phase: deflink: lcp -> logout Oct 31 10:29:02 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Phase: deflink: logout -> hangup Oct 31 10:29:02 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Disconnected! Oct 31 10:29:02 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Debug: deflink: Close Oct 31 10:29:02 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 41 secs: 118 octets in, 260 octets out Oct 31 10:29:02 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Phase: total 9 bytes/sec, peak 34 bytes/sec on Sun Oct 31 10:29:02 1999 Oct 31 10:29:02 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: ID0: 0 = unlink("/var/run/cuaa1.if") Oct 31 10:29:02 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: ID0: 0 = uu_unlock("cuaa1") Oct 31 10:29:02 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Phase: deflink: hangup -> opening Oct 31 10:29:02 zappa ppp[271]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Enter pause (3) for redialing. I have used all sorts of combinations enable/disable pap chap vjcomp etc... zappa# uname -a FreeBSD zappa.demon.nl 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #50: Sun Oct 31 09:56:44 CET 1999 ron@zappa.demon.nl:/usr/src/sys/compile/MOON i386 Please help. Regards, Ron. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 3:37:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.gfit.net (ns.gfit.net [209.41.124.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6729E14E34 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 03:37:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@embt.com) Received: from PARANOR (timembt.iinc.com [206.67.169.229]) by mercury.gfit.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA17704; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 05:41:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom@embt.com) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19991031063615.01049718@mail.embt.com> X-Sender: tembt@mail.embt.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 06:36:15 -0800 To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" From: Tom Embt Subject: Re: BIND (8.1.2) reverse mapping for RFC 1918 addresses? - Please Help Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <6976.941355188@segfault.monkeys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [...] >Oct 31 00:01:48 segfault named[1963]: localhost.rev: No such file or directory > >What the heck is this "localhost.rev" stuff all about??? [...] And have you run the make-localhost shell script in the /etc/namedb directory? I think it might be missing the execute bits BTW. cd /etc/namedb chmod +x make-localhost ./make-localhost named (or something) Tom Embt tom@embt.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 4:37:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dart.sr.se (dart.SR.SE [193.12.91.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7E6814BFF for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 04:37:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: from honken.sr.se ([134.25.128.27]) by dart.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16371 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:37:26 +0100 (MET) Received: from pluto.sr.se (pluto.SR.SE [134.25.193.91]) by honken.sr.se (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA21549 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:37:25 +0100 (MET) Received: (from gunnar@localhost) by pluto.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA24001 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:37:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gunnar) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:37:25 +0100 From: Gunnar Flygt To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: 128 -bit encrypted version of Netscape for Europe Message-ID: <19991031133725.A23974@sr.se> Reply-To: Gunnar Flygt Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Where can I get hold of a FreeBSD-runnable version of Netscape with strong encryption, in Europe? My bank strongly advises me to use 128-bit version of Netscape. I don't want to do these things in M$ products since I've got rid of almost every need for them elsewhere. -- __o regards, Gunnar ---_ \<,_ email: flygt@sr.se ---- (_)/ (_) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 5: 7:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (Pegasus.cc.ucf.edu [132.170.240.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53DE214CDF for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 05:07:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ewayte@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu) Received: from pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (pegasus.cc.ucf.edu [132.170.240.30]) Ident [ewayte] by pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 114CD3430; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 08:07:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 08:07:27 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Wayte To: Gunnar Flygt Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 128 -bit encrypted version of Netscape for Europe In-Reply-To: <19991031133725.A23974@sr.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gunnar, Check out Fortify for Netscape at www.fortify.net It provides 128-bit security for export-grade browsers and is available for FreeBSD, as well as many other platforms. Disclaimer: I've never used the product, but I've seen it recommended on many security related web sites (e.g., www.squirrel.com). Eric Wayte, DBA Univ. of Central Florida ewayte@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Gunnar Flygt wrote: > Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:37:25 +0100 > From: Gunnar Flygt > Reply-To: Gunnar Flygt > To: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: 128 -bit encrypted version of Netscape for Europe > > Where can I get hold of a FreeBSD-runnable version of Netscape with > strong encryption, in Europe? > > My bank strongly advises me to use 128-bit version of Netscape. I don't > want to do these things in M$ products since I've got rid of almost > every need for them elsewhere. > > -- > __o > regards, Gunnar ---_ \<,_ > email: flygt@sr.se ---- (_)/ (_) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 5:37:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mashie.force9.net (mashie.force9.net [195.166.128.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B7F214C3A for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 05:37:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Ian@tirnanog.org) Received: (qmail 30550 invoked from network); 31 Oct 1999 13:37:25 -0000 Received: from mayfly.plus.net.uk (HELO mayfly.force9.net) (195.166.128.28) by mashie.force9.net with SMTP; 31 Oct 1999 13:37:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 21889 invoked from network); 31 Oct 1999 13:37:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO A189-06-02.dial.plus.net.uk) (212.56.95.189) by mayfly.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 31 Oct 1999 13:37:24 -0000 From: Ian J Greely To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 128 -bit encrypted version of Netscape for Europe Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:40:22 +0000 Message-ID: References: <19991031133725.A23974@sr.se> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.6/32.525 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is the FreeBSD version crippled then? The standard *doze* export version of Netscape actually has full 128 bit encryption but only with certain keys. Banks in foreign (to the US) countries can buy certificates which will turn on this 128bit encryption for *their* transactions with the customer. So far as I was aware only Banks could get these keys. As I recall there was a hack for the Doze code that would turn on the 128 bit encryption for ALL communications.=20 regards, Ian On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 08:07:27 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >Gunnar, > >Check out Fortify for Netscape at www.fortify.net It provides 128-bit >security for export-grade browsers and is available for FreeBSD, as well >as many other platforms. > >Disclaimer: I've never used the product, but I've seen it recommended = on >many security related web sites (e.g., www.squirrel.com). > > >Eric Wayte, DBA >Univ. of Central Florida >ewayte@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu > >On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Gunnar Flygt wrote: > >> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:37:25 +0100 >> From: Gunnar Flygt >> Reply-To: Gunnar Flygt >> To: FreeBSD Questions >> Subject: 128 -bit encrypted version of Netscape for Europe >>=20 >> Where can I get hold of a FreeBSD-runnable version of Netscape with >> strong encryption, in Europe? >>=20 >> My bank strongly advises me to use 128-bit version of Netscape. I = don't >> want to do these things in M$ products since I've got rid of almost >> every need for them elsewhere. >>=20 >> --=20 >> __o >> regards, Gunnar ---_ \<,_ >> email: flygt@sr.se ---- (_)/ (_) >>=20 >>=20 >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >>=20 > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 5:55:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from Mailbox.mcs.net (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A259F14CBE for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 05:55:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tforrest@Mailbox.mcs.net) Received: (from tforrest@localhost) by Mailbox.mcs.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA17617; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 07:55:46 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tforrest) Message-Id: <199910311355.HAA17617@Mailbox.mcs.net> From: "Tommy Forrest - KE4PYM" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 08:55:42 -0500 Reply-To: "Tommy Forrest - KE4PYM" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.01.1600) For Windows 98 (4.10.1998) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: DHCP Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Howdy everyone. Learning a lot here. Making great progress on my first FBSD box. Alas, I have another question. When I first started this box up it had no problems getting a DHCP address from my cable modem provider (rr.com). For some reason now the system refuses to get a DHCP addy. I can plug a static address in and it works fine (until the DHCP server gives out my address to someone else). I know there is nothing wrong with the cable modem as I can get leases from it using my wintendo box. the command i use in rc.conf is "ifconfig_xl0="DHCP" also when i use /stand/sysinstall and goto the network setup it asks if i want to obtain a DHCP lease, i tell it yes and nothing comes back to fill in the blanks. Ideas on how to correct? thanks. Tommy Forrest - KE4PYM - tforrest@mcs.net http://www.mcs.net/~tforrest And now, its time, for some useless, bandwidth wasting words of wisdom: If the shoe fits, buy it.----Imelda Marcos PGP Public Key Fingerprint: 5762 A3CC 8EA5 8542 9666 222B 61A9 2558 ** Tag(s) inserted by Bandit Tagger98 - http://www.gbar.dtu.dk/~c918704 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 6: 1:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.xcelcom.com (mx1.xcelcom.com [216.42.43.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB2314CAF for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 06:01:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from greyheart@fnmail.com) Received: from xcelcom.com ([216.42.43.9]) by mx1.xcelcom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA14439 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:05:13 GMT Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:05:13 GMT From: greyheart@fnmail.com Message-Id: <199910311405.OAA14439@mx1.xcelcom.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Looking for more information... Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! Anybody knows where the missing chapters of the usd, the smm, and the psd are? Thanks in advance. Pablo Oh, BTW, I cannot send mail to the lists of freebsd.org through sendmail at home, why? It says 'hostname not encountered' or something. --------------------------------------------------------------- This Message was Powered by Xcel Communications Sign up for your FREE EMAIL account today at http://www.mailroom.com Give your FAX machine an email address http://www.faxroom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 6:36:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law-f126.hotmail.com [209.185.131.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A668014CDF for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 06:36:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chihhsienhuang@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 94263 invoked by uid 0); 31 Oct 1999 14:36:10 -0000 Message-ID: <19991031143610.94262.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 202.132.206.240 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 06:36:10 PST X-Originating-IP: [202.132.206.240] From: "nelson huang" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: nfsd: can't register with udp portmap Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:36:10 CST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I just installed FreeBSD 3.3 as a NFS server, but it always responses with the message "nfsd: can't register with udp portmap" in /var/log/messages. What's wrong? Please help! Thank you. Nelson ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 7: 2:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from infoviaplus.net.ar (adv20.infoviaplus.net.ar [200.9.212.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8023314E06 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 07:01:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from estebango@infovia.com.ar) Received: from terminal ([209.13.203.252]) by infoviaplus.net.ar (Tid InfoMail Exchanger v2.20) with SMTP id #941382085.075940001; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:01:25 -0300 Message-ID: <000801bf23b0$8c1d2600$fccb0dd1@terminal> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Esteban_G=F3mez?= To: Cc: Subject: Como conseguir los CD de instalacion de Freebsd? Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:59:32 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF2397.649E6800" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Infomail-Id: 941382085.1DAA01AC1E03A1.42085 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF2397.649E6800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Deseo instalar Freebsd en mi PC. Conoc=ED de este producto por un = art=EDculo de una revista espa=F1ola, y quiero saber un poco m=E1s. En = especial, me interesa las prestaciones que tengan que ver con Internet y = dise=F1o Web. =BFC=F3mo consigo los archivos de instalaci=F3n? Espero respuesta. 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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF2397.649E6800-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 7: 6:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc2.on.home.com (ha1.rdc2.on.home.com [24.9.0.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A61E14DF9 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 07:06:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from street@iname.com) Received: from mired.eh.local ([24.64.136.188]) by mail.rdc2.on.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with ESMTP id <19991031150616.RZHV3040.mail.rdc2.on.home.com@mired.eh.local>; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 07:06:16 -0800 Received: (from kws@localhost) by mired.eh.local (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA67768; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:06:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kws) To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BIND (8.1.2) reverse mapping for RFC 1918 addresses? - Please Help References: <6976.941355188@segfault.monkeys.com> From: Kevin Street Date: 31 Oct 1999 10:06:16 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Ronald F. Guilmette"'s message of "Sun, 31 Oct 1999 00:33:08 -0700" Message-ID: <8766zna7tj.fsf@mired.eh.local> Lines: 42 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/XEmacs 21.1 - "Biscayne" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Ronald F. Guilmette" writes: > I'm using the stock bind 8.1.2 that came with FreeBSD 3.3 and I'm having > one helluva time getting various reverse mapping stuff working right. > ... > Problem #1) > > Regardless of the fact that I seem to have setup my reverse lookup zone > properly for the 127.0.0.* zone, every time named starts up it puts an error > message in the syslog that says: > > Oct 31 00:01:48 segfault named[1963]: localhost.rev: No such file or directory > > What the heck is this "localhost.rev" stuff all about??? /etc/namedb/localhost.rev is the standard place to put the reverse mapping for 127.0.0.1. It's normally referenced in named.conf like: zone "0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA" { type master; file "localhost.rev"; }; It can be automatically generated by the make-localhost script in /etc/namedb. > Problem #2) > > Try as I might, I have not been able to setup reverse DNS names for various > RFC 1918 reserved IP addresses that I am using behind my firewall. For > example, I'd like to setup a PTR record for the address 10.0.0.7 or maybe > 192.168.0.7. WHY CAN'T I DO THIS? I have patterned everything I have done > after the instructions (from the Grasshopper book) that I used to setup the > reverse mapping for 127.0.0.1 and *that* seems to work OK. So why, oh why > can't I get the same thing to work in the case of 10.0.0.7? It's hard to guess what you might be doing wrong since there are obviously some problems with how you've set up the reverse mapping for localhost too. You could show us what you're doing. -- Kevin Street street@iname.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 7:16:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc2.on.home.com (ha1.rdc2.on.home.com [24.9.0.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E2114DF9 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 07:16:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from street@iname.com) Received: from mired.eh.local ([24.64.136.188]) by mail.rdc2.on.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with ESMTP id <19991031151630.SCCQ3040.mail.rdc2.on.home.com@mired.eh.local>; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 07:16:30 -0800 Received: (from kws@localhost) by mired.eh.local (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA67878; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:16:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kws) To: "nelson huang" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nfsd: can't register with udp portmap References: <19991031143610.94262.qmail@hotmail.com> From: Kevin Street Date: 31 Oct 1999 10:16:29 -0500 In-Reply-To: "nelson huang"'s message of "Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:36:10 CST" Message-ID: <873dura7ci.fsf@mired.eh.local> Lines: 17 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/XEmacs 21.1 - "Biscayne" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "nelson huang" writes: > Hello, > > I just installed FreeBSD 3.3 as a NFS server, > but it always responses with the message > "nfsd: can't register with udp portmap" in > /var/log/messages. What's wrong? Please help! Do you have portmap enabled in /etc/rc.conf.local like: portmap_enable="YES" # Run the portmapper service (or NO). portmap_flags="" # Flags to portmap (if enabled). -- Kevin Street street@iname.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 7:17:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from indyweb.cgocable.ca (indyweb.cgocable.ca [205.151.69.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE1714DF9 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 07:17:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from foub@globetrotter.net) Received: from windows.cgocable.ca (141-154.ri.cgocable.ca [24.226.141.154]) by indyweb.cgocable.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA17744817 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:17:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000501bf23b3$13657e80$0201a8c0@cgocable.ca> From: "Guillaume Paquet" To: Subject: My box reboots when I compile a program Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:17:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Each time (or almost each time) that I compile a program on my box, it reboots itself. What could I do to fix that? I have a pentium 233mmx, 32MB ram, HD 3.2go IDE, FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE Guillaume Paquet foub@globetrotter.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 7:20:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mb04.swip.net (mb04.swip.net [193.12.122.208]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405DA14A0B for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 07:20:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andy@flame.org) Received: from enterprise (d212-151-85-8.swipnet.se [212.151.85.8]) by mb04.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07167; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:20:13 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991031161908.016688e0@atlantis.fukt.hk-r.se> X-Sender: andy@atlantis.fukt.hk-r.se X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:20:12 +0100 To: "Guillaume Paquet" , From: Andreas Berg Subject: Re: My box reboots when I compile a program In-Reply-To: <000501bf23b3$13657e80$0201a8c0@cgocable.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 16:17 1999-10-31 , Guillaume Paquet wrote: >Hi, Hello, >Each time (or almost each time) that I compile a program on my box, it >reboots itself. What could I do to fix that? >I have a pentium 233mmx, 32MB ram, HD 3.2go IDE, FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE Sounds like a hardware problem. Most likely memory. Is there a kernel panic? >Guillaume Paquet >foub@globetrotter.net -Andy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 7:54:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from indyweb.cgocable.ca (indyweb.cgocable.ca [205.151.69.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D0E14BE0 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 07:54:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from foub@globetrotter.net) Received: from windows.cgocable.ca (141-154.ri.cgocable.ca [24.226.141.154]) by indyweb.cgocable.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA17498980 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:54:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001801bf23b8$2c0457e0$0201a8c0@cgocable.ca> From: "Guillaume Paquet" To: References: <4.2.0.58.19991031161908.016688e0@atlantis.fukt.hk-r.se> Subject: Re: My box reboots when I compile a program Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:54:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG No, it's only a reboot, like if I'd press reset... Guillaume Paquet foub@globetrotter.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Andreas Berg To: Guillaume Paquet ; Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 10:20 AM Subject: Re: My box reboots when I compile a program > At 16:17 1999-10-31 , Guillaume Paquet wrote: > >Hi, > > Hello, > > >Each time (or almost each time) that I compile a program on my box, it > >reboots itself. What could I do to fix that? > >I have a pentium 233mmx, 32MB ram, HD 3.2go IDE, FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE > > Sounds like a hardware problem. Most likely memory. Is there a kernel panic? > > >Guillaume Paquet > >foub@globetrotter.net > > -Andy > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 7:55:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailout2.nyroc.rr.com (mailout2-1.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.226.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD0A14BE0 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 07:55:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andy0383@twcny.rr.com) Received: from andy ([24.92.246.235]) by mailout2.nyroc.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:48:04 -0500 Message-ID: <000701bf23b7$c1d03ba0$02c810b0@andy.twcny.rr.com> From: "A Minkstein" To: Subject: Dial Pad service Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:51:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF238D.D86AC4E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF238D.D86AC4E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am having a small problem with the service available on Dialpad.com. = It allows you to call anywhere in the US for free. 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------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF238D.D86AC4E0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 8: 6:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D9714BE0 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 08:06:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id RAA04312 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:06:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA46511 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:05:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: 128 -bit encrypted version of Netscape for Europe Date: 31 Oct 1999 17:05:25 +0100 Message-ID: <7vhpc5$1dd1$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> References: <19991031133725.A23974@sr.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <19991031133725.A23974@sr.se>, Gunnar Flygt wrote: > Where can I get hold of a FreeBSD-runnable version of Netscape with > strong encryption, in Europe? cd /usr/ports/www/netscape47-navigator && make -DUSE_128BIT install clean -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 8:23:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from brutus.converging.net (edtn002029.hs.telusplanet.net [161.184.135.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C4D14C24 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 08:23:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dtougas@brutus.converging.net) Received: (from dtougas@localhost) by brutus.converging.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA06177 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 03:27:01 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from dtougas) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 03:27:01 -0700 From: D Tougas To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: A make world question Message-ID: <19991031032700.A6160@converging.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When I do a make world, does kernel.GENERIC automatically get re-built, or do I have to re-compile the generic kernel as well? Thanks. -- Damien Tougas Converging Technology Solutions, Inc. Phone: (780)469-1679 Fax: (780)461-5127 E-mail: dtougas@converging.net http://www.converging.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 9: 0:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from weedcon1.cropsci.ncsu.edu (weedcon1.cropsci.ncsu.edu [152.1.207.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC6CC14CAC for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 09:00:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fbsdbob@weedcon1.cropsci.ncsu.edu) Received: (from fbsdbob@localhost) by weedcon1.cropsci.ncsu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA25791; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:05:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from fbsdbob) From: FreeBSD Bob Message-Id: <199910311705.MAA25791@weedcon1.cropsci.ncsu.edu> Subject: Re: "easy installation"!!!!! yeah right In-Reply-To: <381A3E1A.C5372A5C@multinet-media.com> from Drew Wiggins at "Oct 29, 1999 07:38:51 pm" To: drew@multinet-media.com (Drew Wiggins) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:05:14 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I've been debating whether or not to post to this legacy thread. > But I figure, what the heck...I'll add my 2 cents to the pot and > maybe someone can cash in on a car or boat or something. Well, IMHO, the discussion is a good way to feel out the common wisdom. So, yer zwei pfennigs is welcome. ..... > ..... If it was easy > then everyone would do it. The hard is what makes it good. > ( or maybe that's just me being a control-freak again ). Generally agreed, but, for the sake of discussion, we have to consider the future. There will come a point in time, if FreeBSD is going to survive with reasonable PR, userbase, generic utility, etc., that it will have to consider joe enduser running the home box on cablenet. Joe user is not the professional Berserkeley type, nor the AT&T suits. But, he is the guy fed up with Gatesware, and has heard a little or a lot of buzz about this thing *nix (mostly via Penguin buzz) down at the coffeeshop or the bookstore. Now, if we, as Berserkely types want to compete in that market, for joe user, then we have to present ourselves a little better, or perhaps differently, than we would to the longhair bearded sandal crew that I grew up in. The sandal crew is gonna get it done, one way or the other. So, that's a null issue. But, I sense, from reading 500 emails a day, on the list (whew!), that there is a need for something less sandal crew, and a little more geard towards garnering our share of the Penguins-to-be. We can't expect to flesh out our flock by just catching the discontented Penguins. Although there is merit for using the Penguin school for our Basic Training, I think we should approach it more directly than that. Folks, the budding *nix community has gotten bigger than just the Berserkeley sandal crowd and the geek compsci majors. If we fail to accommodate the joe endusers, then we are missing the boat in a big way. How do we do that? Good question, but, there are some serious things that should be considered, based upon what I am gleaning from all the newsfeeds regarding *nix, as well as our own lists. 1. We do need some kind of better training algorithm for the newbie types that are not the professionals with years of experience, or the compsci majors. 2. We do need some serious on-line training materials, perhaps like some of the OSU courses, or that kind of thing, presented in a way that will immediately catch the incoming newbie, and guide them along. 3. We do need some kind of hands-one test drive machine, either via the website, OR, via something as watered down as a Training Wheels version of the system that comes up out of a dos shell. Such a version could be used for evaluation, for training, and for a one-upsmanship PR coup. The above is only IMHO, and we all know everyone is entitled to one IMHO, just like they are entitled to one arse. But, I do sense we can't remain the cloistered Berserkeley sandal crew, forever. > Is RTFM a prerequisite for new UNIX users? If they want to > get anything out of me it is, and I'm generally a nice guy. I think > most people feel the same way. RTFM is always important. But, I sense our FM's are needing some clarity. They are quite good for the professional, and most every tidbit is there, somewhere, but, sometimes it can be difficult to find. > If you've been monkey-trained to point and click, and you > are looking for a starting place, then master what you know: learn > dos inside and out, network functions, telnet, FTP, hosts, lmhosts, > establish a general knowledge of networking, write some batch files, > mess around with autoexec.bat and config.sys, learn a programming > language ( VB does not count ). It will make the transition a lot > easier. Then pickup a shell account and read a book on dos->unix > command translations. There are probably more similarities than > you imagine. The problem is that joe enduser does not come from a dos background, anymore, so that method of training is gone. He can't just pick up a shell account anymore, because they are harder and harder to find with everything becoming webbized. He needs the account on his own hardware, for even the most basic training. Forget anything dos... dos does not exist anymore. You have to start WITH *nix directly. Now, the problem is getting joe enduser there, directly. > Will a try-out version of FBSD work...who knows? If it helps > build better users, then I'm all for it. If it creates a overpopulated > group of quiters who whine and moan, then I think I could do w/o. > IMHO, I think it may provide people who think they are interested > a chance to make a better decision without us all having to listen to > them and ourselves discussing what we've all heard a million times > ( as I know this is not new information, so hold the hot stuff ). Whiners go elsewhere. Serious joe endusers are most welcome to sign on board. Perhaps it is time to finalize discussions, and take some proactive tack (to borrow buzzwords). > Last but not least, let's make a quick comparison. Let's say > you just bought a brand new stick-shift Corvette. Then decided > that you didn't want to deal with having to learn how to drive a > car with a manual transmission. Would you complain to the > manufacturers, that they made the car too difficult to drive? > Or would you opt to drive another car, that's more suited to your > driving preferences? Just a thought. Interesting aside with the auto bits. If you buy a hot rod, and you want to race with the bigboyz, you have to go through something like Bondurant's racing school, or that sort of thing, for hands-on training, before they even let you out with the 'vette. Sadly, with *nix, they shovel you out the door onto the track, and say crash first, and then ask for help, but first RTFM. Sadly, there aren't many Formula 1 or CART racing manuals to read. I still stand by my contention that we need something for the joe enduser crowd, rather than rely on Penguin Basic Training, (although that method seems to work, too). Bob To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 9: 1:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mobil.surnet.ru (mobil.surnet.ru [195.54.2.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D525814CAC for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 09:01:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ilia@cgilh.chel.su) Received: (from uucgilh@localhost) by mobil.surnet.ru (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with UUCP id VAA29357 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:50:06 +0500 (ES) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cgilh.chel.su (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id VAA02441 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:34:23 +0500 Received: from localhost (ilia@localhost) by localhost.cgu.chel.su (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA00591 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:35:03 +0500 (ES) (envelope-from ilia@cgilh.chel.su) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.cgu.chel.su: ilia owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:34:59 +0500 (ES) From: Ilia Chipitsine X-Sender: ilia@localhost.cgu.chel.su To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: rmail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Dear All, 'man rmail' says ............. BUGS Rmail should not reside in /bin. ............. what is Rmail ? if 'rmail' meant, s-s-s-s-o $ which rmail /bin/rmail $ Regards, (îÁÉÌÕÞÛÉÅ ÐÏÖÅÌÁÎÉÑ) Ilia Chipitsine (éÌØÑ ûÉÐÉÃÉÎ) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQB1AwUBOBxvteRxlWKN2EXhAQEwzwMAt6bgajPhHWP74kQb5EJdnHmFPRlwq6ln 4zZ07LPP7j1JkOJ96o1IzHmmrAt/p7oXsmfG0mM6ubp1xPn7bjvqcuDt1u0Eq/Uz wuVrml76X4V66v4LH+s897j9jy78jaIU =Qdtp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 9: 8:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F131A14CAC for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 09:08:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id SAA08482 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:08:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA47078 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:22:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Example programs using sysmouse? Date: 31 Oct 1999 17:22:24 +0100 Message-ID: <7vhqc0$1duo$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I keep running into programs that offer mouse support through xterm's mouse tracking or the Linux gpm daemon. The FreeBSD syscons console driver offers similar functionality by way of moused(8)/ sysmouse(4). Are there any programs at all that use this? I'm looking for examples I might be able to use to add sysmouse support to applications. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 10:14: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from monkeys.com (i180.value.net [206.14.136.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D973F14E72 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:13:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rfg@monkeys.com) Received: from segfault.monkeys.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by monkeys.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09424; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:11:55 -0800 (PST) To: Kevin Street , Tom Embt , Alex Derevyanko Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BIND (8.1.2) reverse mapping for RFC 1918 addresses? - Please Help In-reply-to: Your message of 31 Oct 1999 10:06:16 -0500. <8766zna7tj.fsf@mired.eh.local> From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:11:55 -0800 Message-ID: <9422.941393515@segfault.monkeys.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Regarding my questions about named setup... NEVERMIND! Something that Kevin Street said made it all click, and I finally realized my incredibly stupid error. (I _was_ correct that something very fundamental was screwed up.) Here's the deal... I am/was accustomed to running named (8.2.x) AS DISTRIBUTED BY ISC.ORG. When using a straight-out-of-the-box named from ISC, the configuration file is in /etc/named.conf, and I had no idea that named could ever, or would ever be built in such a way as to make the default path for the configuration file be someplace else. Boy was I wrong! The named (8.1.2) binary that is being distributed with FreeBSD 3.3 has apparently been built so as to assume the default path to the configuration file is /etc/namedb/named.conf. I didn't know that. So of course, I was fiddling /etc/named.conf and making all of these local changes and setting up all sorts of elaborate stuff, and what do you know! None of it was ever even taking effect! Now that I know what the problem was (and now that I have made the file named /etc/namedb/named.conf just be a symlink to /etc/named.conf) things are working 100% better. My thanks to everyone who sent me responses. P.S. More questions: (1) Why was FreeBSD 3.3 distributed with what would seem to be such an out-of-date named? (2) Why was the named binary that is being distributed with FreeBSD 3.3 built to use a different default path for the configuration file from the one that (it seems) ISC recommends? Does this fall into the category of `annoyingly pointless incompatibilities'? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 10:32: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sanson.reyes.somos.net (freyes.static.inch.com [207.240.212.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5D214C48 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:32:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Received: from tomasa (tomasa.reyes.somos.net [10.0.0.11]) by sanson.reyes.somos.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA57510; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:29:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Message-Id: <199910311829.NAA57510@sanson.reyes.somos.net> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "=?iso-8859-1?q?Esteban_G=F3mez?=" , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:31:32 -0500 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.01.1600) For Windows 98 (4.10.1998) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Como conseguir los CD de instalacion de Freebsd? Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:59:32 -0300, Esteban G=F3mez wrote: >Deseo instalar Freebsd en mi PC. Mira http://www.freebsd.org/es/ Ahi hay informacion sobre FreeBSD en Espan~ol. Esta lista es en Ingles. Nota aparte.. tu direccion de retorno(?) le falta el ".ar". No mas apare= ce "estebango@infovia.com" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 10:35: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from diana.sfsu.edu (diana.sfsu.edu [130.212.10.239]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A6E314C48 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:34:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rj@futon.sfsu.edu) Received: from ns1 (madmax-77.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.77]) by diana.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA18260 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:32:57 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: From: "Roy Jezmajian" To: Subject: Cannot Connect To My Machine!! Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:42:55 -0800 Message-ID: <000801bf23cf$bf53b600$7b00a8c0@ns1.brainstorm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi All, I have a problem with a FreeBSD machine and was wondering if anyone can help. Machine A is a FreeBSD 2.x box. I do not know the exact version because I cannot connect to it right now. Machine B is a Red Hat Linux 6.0 installation. I can telnet to Machine B, but not Machine A. When I try to telnet to Machine A from Machine B, this is what happens: [roy@redhat roy]$ telnet myFreeBSDbox.com Trying 1.2.3.4... Connected to myFreeBSDbox. Escape character is '^]'. Connection closed by foreign host. [roy@redhat roy]$ Names & numbers have been changed for security reasons, but you get the point. It should also be told that the boxes are connected over a DSL line, and that both machines have an internal IP (non-routable, used only inside the network) and a (routable) IP address used by the rest of the internet. When the router receives a message from the internet, it looks at the destination IP (routable) and routes the message to the appropriate internal address. The problem is I cannot connect to machine A (myFreeBSDbox). It does not respond to any request over the network whatsoever, and cannot even be pinged from outside the network. If anyone has any suggestions, please write back. RJ rj@futon.sfsu.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 10:42:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from thorin.gamf.hu (thorin.gamf.hu [193.224.222.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA75814CAC for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:42:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tamas.kocsis@shark.hix.com) Received: from shark.hix.com (ws0.idom.hu [193.68.47.65]) by thorin.gamf.hu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA12297 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:29:42 +0100 Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:44:12 +0100 From: tamas kocsis X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.023) S/N AA757DD7 Reply-To: Tamas Kocsis Organization: dti Message-ID: <14822.991031@shark.hix.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: VAX 4000 VLC workstation with FreeBSD quations Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Good day, Could you tell me, how I can use my VAX 4000 VLC workstations with FreeBSD ? Configuration of VAX 4000 VLC Worksations: 16MB RAM 120MB HDD 17" DEC VRM17 monocrom display, mouse, keyboard. I have got 74 piece VAX 4000 VLC WS , and I would like use this with FreeBSD operating system. Could you help me ? Thank you, and best regards: Tamas Kocsis Deloitte & Touche IDOM Consulting Inc. Hungary, Budapest To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 10:50:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA6D14CAC for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:50:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id TAA15717 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:50:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA50238 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:01:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: A make world question Date: 31 Oct 1999 19:01:10 +0100 Message-ID: <7vi056$1h1m$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> References: <19991031032700.A6160@converging.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG D Tougas wrote: > When I do a make world, does kernel.GENERIC automatically get re-built, or > do I have to re-compile the generic kernel as well? "make world" only builds the user land. Kernels must be made separately. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 10:54:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from amukta.gci.net (amukta.gci.net [208.138.130.216]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21AD514CAC for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:54:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from irisinc@gci.net) Received: from gci.net ([208.161.163.219]) by amukta.gci.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with ESMTP id FKHDSG01.M0Y; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 09:53:04 -0900 Message-ID: <381C907D.4C8B82ED@gci.net> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 09:54:53 -0900 From: Rusty Root X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Bob Cc: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: "easy installation"!!!!! yeah right References: <199910311705.MAA25791@weedcon1.cropsci.ncsu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I still stand by my contention that we need something for the > joe enduser crowd, rather than rely on Penguin Basic Training, > (although that method seems to work, too). > > Bob > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message What you need is documentation that not only tells you how to configure but also explains what it is your going to have when you get through. It would also help quite a bit if there were some information about how and why this configuration was established in the first place. Following the manuals and book helps you get the job done but after your through, you don't know what you have or in some cases what to do with it. Rusty To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 10:55: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.enteract.com (mail.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B28CB14CAC for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:54:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dscheidt@enteract.com) Received: from shell-3.enteract.com (dscheidt@shell-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.42]) by mail.enteract.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA33242; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:54:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dscheidt@enteract.com) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:54:49 -0600 (CST) From: David Scheidt To: tamas kocsis Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VAX 4000 VLC workstation with FreeBSD quations In-Reply-To: <14822.991031@shark.hix.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, tamas kocsis wrote: > Good day, > > > Could you tell me, how I can use my VAX 4000 VLC workstations with > FreeBSD ? Configuration of VAX 4000 VLC Worksations: Step one would be to port FreeBSD to the VAX, since it doesn't run on them. You can run NetBSD on VAXen, see www.NetBSD.org. regards, David Scheidt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 11:10:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from blues.jpj.net (blues.jpj.net [204.97.17.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59EE214BDB for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:10:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trevor@jpj.net) Received: from localhost (trevor@localhost) by blues.jpj.net (right/backatcha) with SMTP id OAA29119; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:10:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:10:48 -0500 (EST) From: Trevor Johnson To: tamas kocsis Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VAX 4000 VLC workstation with FreeBSD quations In-Reply-To: <14822.991031@shark.hix.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have got 74 piece VAX 4000 VLC WS , and I would like use > this with FreeBSD operating system. FreeBSD doesn't yet run on VAXen, but at http://www.us.netbsd.org/Changes/cvschanges/by-ragge-199904.html I see: 9 Mar: Basic KA48 (VAXstation 4000 VLC) support. [...] 26 Mar: Buggfixes for VS 4000/VLC. Basic support for VS4000/90 and MV4000/300. [...] 27 Mar: Note addition of 4000/VLC, 4000/90 and 4000/300. [ragge] Try NetBSD. __ Trevor Johnson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 11:12:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pangeia.com.br (spliff.pangeia.com.br [200.239.53.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE63414C0E for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:12:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nelson@pangeia.com.br) Received: from localhost (nelson@localhost) by pangeia.com.br (8.6.12/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA02448; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:11:20 -0200 Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:11:19 -0200 (EDT) From: Nelson Murilo To: Gunnar Flygt Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 128 -bit encrypted version of Netscape for Europe In-Reply-To: <19991031133725.A23974@sr.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Try www.fortify.net Regards, -- ./nelson -murilo On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Gunnar Flygt wrote: }Where can I get hold of a FreeBSD-runnable version of Netscape with }strong encryption, in Europe? } }My bank strongly advises me to use 128-bit version of Netscape. I don't }want to do these things in M$ products since I've got rid of almost }every need for them elsewhere. } }-- } __o }regards, Gunnar ---_ \<,_ }email: flygt@sr.se ---- (_)/ (_) } } }To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org }with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message } To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 11:21:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc2.occa.home.com (ha1.rdc2.occa.home.com [24.2.8.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F320F14C0E for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:21:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from iratus@home.com) Received: from cc602670-a ([24.0.114.133]) by mail.rdc2.occa.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <19991031192114.UCRC8534.mail.rdc2.occa.home.com@cc602670-a> for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:21:14 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991031112114.008eb610@mail.flrtn1.occa.home.com> X-Sender: iratus@mail.flrtn1.occa.home.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:21:14 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: iratus@home.com Subject: Re: "easy installation"!!!!! yeah right In-Reply-To: <381C907D.4C8B82ED@gci.net> References: <199910311705.MAA25791@weedcon1.cropsci.ncsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 09:54 10/31/99 -0900, you wrote: >> >> I still stand by my contention that we need something for the >> joe enduser crowd, rather than rely on Penguin Basic Training, >> (although that method seems to work, too). >> >> Bob >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > >What you need is documentation that not only tells you how to configure >but also explains what it is your going to have when you get through. > >It would also help quite a bit if there were some information about how >and why this configuration was established in the first place. > >Following the manuals and book helps you get the job done but after your >through, you don't know what you have or in some cases what to do with >it. > >Rusty > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message I really don't want to start a flame war but you might consider the following since what you seek is there: The Complete FreeBSD by Greg Lehey, almost any basic book on Unix as BSD is a well know unix version, the FreeBSD handbook which is included with the various distributions (2.*, 3.* etc), all of the man pages (though I agree they are a handful just to interpret in some cases), if you are headed for guruhood a look at the original 4.4BSD series is nice, and a search of Amazon.com will show you more then I think just about anybody could remember. As an aside, if you don't know what you have after you are done perhaps time with any of the aforesaid books should be spent BEFORE you install. Its really all there if you just look, though it has been my experiance that "handholding" is probably in short supply though IMHO, this isn't that big a deal. Just my 2cents worth. Jeff Phillips To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 11:34: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law-f18.hotmail.com [209.185.131.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E53014A1B for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:33:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chihhsienhuang@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 59438 invoked by uid 0); 31 Oct 1999 19:33:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19991031193359.59437.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 163.31.24.52 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:33:58 PST X-Originating-IP: [163.31.24.52] From: "nelson huang" To: street@iname.com, chihhsienhuang@hotmail.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nfsd: can't register with udp portmap Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 03:33:58 CST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I just installed FreeBSD 3.3 as a NFS server, > > but it always responses with the message > > "nfsd: can't register with udp portmap" in > > /var/log/messages. What's wrong? Please help! > >Do you have portmap enabled in /etc/rc.conf.local like: > >portmap_enable="YES" # Run the portmapper service (or NO). >portmap_flags="" # Flags to portmap (if enabled). Yes, I did. But the server was still failed. Any idea? Nelson ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 11:43:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hal-pc.org (hal-pc.org [204.52.135.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E1414A1B for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:43:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cravey@hal-pc.org) Received: from [206.180.128.41] (206.180.128.41.dial-ip.hal-pc.org [206.180.128.41]) by mail.hal-pc.org (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAB02158 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:43:06 -0559 (CST) X-Sender: cravey@mail.hal-pc.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:43:04 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Stephen P. Cravey" Subject: Upgrading ports and existing programs Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'd like to upgrade the versions of some of my installed programs from ports. I can cvsup new ports, but before I do, I have a few questions. Are there several ports trees I can cvsup (ports-stable, ports-current, ports-really-really-buggy)? Do I need to 'make deinstall' all of the programs i've previeously installed from the ports collection before I cvsup the new ports? After I cvsup the new ports? at all? when? Do I need to worry about a new version of a port not working on my 3.1-stable system? Will cron-ing a ports cvsup cause any problems for installed programs? upgrading or removing them? basically, how the heck do I do this without messing up my system? Thank you. -Stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 11:45:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from team7.cba.ualr.edu (team7.cba.ualr.edu [144.167.120.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A732514A1B for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:45:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joe@team7.cba.ualr.edu) Received: from team7.cba.ualr.edu (team7.cba.ualr.edu [144.167.120.24]) by team7.cba.ualr.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02706; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:50:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:50:22 -0600 (CST) From: Joe To: Guillaume Paquet Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: My box reboots when I compile a program In-Reply-To: <001801bf23b8$2c0457e0$0201a8c0@cgocable.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Guillaume Paquet wrote: > Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:54:10 -0500 > From: Guillaume Paquet > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: My box reboots when I compile a program > > No, it's only a reboot, like if I'd press reset... Another thing to look at is your cpu fan. I had a machine that would reboot without any sort of panic or error message whenever I cvsup or did a make world. Turned out the cpu fan was not cooling sufficiently. -Joe > Guillaume Paquet > foub@globetrotter.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Andreas Berg > To: Guillaume Paquet ; > > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 10:20 AM > Subject: Re: My box reboots when I compile a program > > > > At 16:17 1999-10-31 , Guillaume Paquet wrote: > > >Hi, > > > > Hello, > > > > >Each time (or almost each time) that I compile a program on my box, it > > >reboots itself. What could I do to fix that? > > >I have a pentium 233mmx, 32MB ram, HD 3.2go IDE, FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE > > > > Sounds like a hardware problem. Most likely memory. Is there a kernel > panic? > > > > >Guillaume Paquet > > >foub@globetrotter.net > > > > -Andy > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 11:57: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mls.gtonet.net (mls.gtonet.net [216.112.90.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 210DB14E5E for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:57:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gtonet.net) Received: from pld (holeyman@pld.gtonet.net [216.112.90.200]) by mls.gtonet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA48141 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:57:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gtonet.net) From: "FreeBSD" To: Subject: RE: My box reboots when I compile a program Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:57:08 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <001801bf23b8$2c0457e0$0201a8c0@cgocable.ca> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Are you doing something stupid like overclocking? > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Guillaume > Paquet > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 7:54 AM > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: My box reboots when I compile a program > > > No, it's only a reboot, like if I'd press reset... > > Guillaume Paquet > foub@globetrotter.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Andreas Berg > To: Guillaume Paquet ; > > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 10:20 AM > Subject: Re: My box reboots when I compile a program > > > > At 16:17 1999-10-31 , Guillaume Paquet wrote: > > >Hi, > > > > Hello, > > > > >Each time (or almost each time) that I compile a program on my box, it > > >reboots itself. What could I do to fix that? > > >I have a pentium 233mmx, 32MB ram, HD 3.2go IDE, FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE > > > > Sounds like a hardware problem. Most likely memory. Is there a kernel > panic? > > > > >Guillaume Paquet > > >foub@globetrotter.net > > > > -Andy > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 12: 0:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mls.gtonet.net (mls.gtonet.net [216.112.90.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0CEC14E5E for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:00:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gtonet.net) Received: from pld (holeyman@pld.gtonet.net [216.112.90.200]) by mls.gtonet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA48162 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:00:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gtonet.net) From: "FreeBSD" To: Subject: RE: Dial Pad service Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:00:32 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF2397.88770AC0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <000701bf23b7$c1d03ba0$02c810b0@andy.twcny.rr.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF2397.88770AC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What an interesting way to Spam a website...You can get more IP's and not use NAT for one solution. I'm not a fan of NAT so that would be my choice. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of A Minkstein Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 7:51 AM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Dial Pad service I am having a small problem with the service available on Dialpad.com. It allows you to call anywhere in the US for free. Apparently If you use NATD or IP Masquerading you can talk to the person on the other end but you can't hear what they are saying. Their web page says that the packets get lost and don't know where to go. Any way, I was wondering if anybody knew of a way around that, so that it would work and I could still keep the UNIX box running NATD. Also check out their site it is really good. Free too! ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF2397.88770AC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What=20 an interesting way to Spam a website...You can get more IP's and not use = NAT for=20 one solution. I'm not a fan of NAT so that would be my=20 choice.
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I am having a small problem with = the service=20 available on Dialpad.com.  It allows you to call anywhere in the = US for=20 free.
Apparently If you use NATD or IP = Masquerading=20 you can talk to the person on the other end but you can't hear what = they are=20 saying.  Their web page says that the packets get lost and don't = know=20 where to go.  Any way, I was wondering if anybody knew of a way = around=20 that, so that it would work and I could still keep the UNIX box = running=20 NATD.  Also check out their site it is really good.  Free=20 too!
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF2397.88770AC0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 12:33: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc2.on.home.com (ha1.rdc2.on.home.com [24.9.0.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90BF414EEB for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:33:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from street@iname.com) Received: from mired.eh.local ([24.64.136.188]) by mail.rdc2.on.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with ESMTP id <19991031203301.VPIS3040.mail.rdc2.on.home.com@mired.eh.local>; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:33:01 -0800 Received: (from kws@localhost) by mired.eh.local (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA42554; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:33:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kws) To: "Stephen P. Cravey" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrading ports and existing programs References: From: Kevin Street Date: 31 Oct 1999 15:33:00 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Stephen P. Cravey"'s message of "Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:43:04 -0600" Message-ID: <87zowz8e4j.fsf@mired.eh.local> Lines: 41 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/XEmacs 21.1 - "Biscayne" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Stephen P. Cravey" writes: > I'd like to upgrade the versions of some of my installed programs from > ports. I can cvsup new ports, but before I do, I have a few questions. > > Are there several ports trees I can cvsup (ports-stable, ports-current, > ports-really-really-buggy)? There's just one ports tree -current. In cvsup I use: ports-all tag=. prefix=/usr > Do I need to 'make deinstall' all of the programs i've previeously > installed from the ports collection before I cvsup the new ports? After I > cvsup the new ports? at all? when? Only when you're about to do a `make install' of a new port. Then you should pkg_delete the old one. BTW `make deinstall' won't work unless the version of the new port is the same as the one installed, in which case you probably don't need to re-install it anyway. > Do I need to worry about a new version of a port not working on my > 3.1-stable system? Rarely. Only when the new port relies on a feature that's not present in 3.1. If it does it would usually fail in the `make all' so you'd know not to `make install'. Don't pkg_delete the old one until the make all has succeeded. > Will cron-ing a ports cvsup cause any problems for installed programs? > upgrading or removing them? No. It will update the ports tree in /usr/ports but not install any new ports until you `make install' one of them. > basically, how the heck do I do this without messing up my system? Should be no problem. Have fun. -- Kevin Street street@iname.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 12:54:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB20C14A29 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:54:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA66197; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:58:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cjc) From: "Crist J. Clark" Message-Id: <199910312058.PAA66197@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Subject: Re: nfsd: can't register with udp portmap In-Reply-To: <19991031193359.59437.qmail@hotmail.com> from nelson huang at "Nov 1, 1999 03:33:58 am" To: chihhsienhuang@hotmail.com (nelson huang) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:57:59 -0500 (EST) Cc: street@iname.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: cjclark@home.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG nelson huang wrote, > > > I just installed FreeBSD 3.3 as a NFS server, > > > but it always responses with the message > > > "nfsd: can't register with udp portmap" in > > > /var/log/messages. What's wrong? Please help! > > > >Do you have portmap enabled in /etc/rc.conf.local like: > > > >portmap_enable="YES" # Run the portmapper service (or NO). > >portmap_flags="" # Flags to portmap (if enabled). > > Yes, I did. But the server was still failed. > Any idea? Does portmap also produce errors in /var/log/messages? What is the output of, # rpcinfo -p When I last had this problem, it was due to the bug in the loopback address configuration mentioned in the 3.3 errata. Check to make sure you get the following, # ifconfig lo0 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 13: 1:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C6214A29 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:01:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA66213; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:04:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cjc) From: "Crist J. Clark" Message-Id: <199910312104.QAA66213@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Subject: Re: Upgrading ports and existing programs In-Reply-To: from "Stephen P. Cravey" at "Oct 31, 1999 01:43:04 pm" To: cravey@hal-pc.org (Stephen P. Cravey) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:04:41 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: cjclark@home.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Stephen P. Cravey wrote, > I'd like to upgrade the versions of some of my installed programs from > ports. I can cvsup new ports, but before I do, I have a few questions. > > Are there several ports trees I can cvsup (ports-stable, ports-current, > ports-really-really-buggy)? No. > Do I need to 'make deinstall' all of the programs i've previeously > installed from the ports collection before I cvsup the new ports? After I > cvsup the new ports? at all? when? The ports tree has nothing to do with installed, running software. If the program works now, it will operate in the exact same manner. It is analogous to CVSup'ing the FreeBSD source tree. Nothing on the running system is changed until you 'make world'. > Do I need to worry about a new version of a port not working on my > 3.1-stable system? Most ports should work fine across all 3.x systems. Most will even be fine for 2.2.8. > Will cron-ing a ports cvsup cause any problems for installed programs? > upgrading or removing them? No. Well, that is not true. When version numbers change, you will not be able to 'make deinstall' a port. However, this is easily worked around by doing a 'pkg_delete '. > basically, how the heck do I do this without messing up my system? CVSup'ing the ports tree cannot mess anything up until you go into a port and type 'make '. -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 13: 7:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rknebel.uplink.net (rknebel.uplink.net [209.173.88.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B98D14E76 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:07:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rknebel@rknebel.uplink.net) Received: (from rknebel@localhost) by rknebel.uplink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA01785 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:06:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rknebel) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:06:17 -0500 From: Rick Knebel To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: xcmail Message-ID: <19991031160617.A1754@rknebel.uplink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Has anyone got a email program called xcmail working with freebsd? I really would like a GUI email program but do not like exmh. Thanks Rick -- Rick Knebel rknebel@uplink.net http://rknebel.uplink.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 13:31:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rknebel.uplink.net (rknebel.uplink.net [209.173.88.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9083214BC5 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:31:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rknebel@rknebel.uplink.net) Received: (from rknebel@localhost) by rknebel.uplink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA02066 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:30:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rknebel) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:30:01 -0500 From: Rick Knebel To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: xcmail Message-ID: <19991031163001.B1754@rknebel.uplink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I actually found a tar.gz version of xcmail for FreeBSD. It will install okay but when I go to run it I get: ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libXpm.so.4.10" Even if you don't use this program can anyone give me an idea what library is missing and where I can find it. Thanks Rick -- Rick Knebel rknebel@uplink.net http://rknebel.uplink.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 13:35: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from easystreet01.easystreet.com (easystreet.com [206.26.36.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7242114BC5 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:34:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tashchuk@easystreet.com) Received: from easystreet.com (dsl-209-162-218-66.easystreet.com [209.162.218.66]) by easystreet01.easystreet.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA13282; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:31:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <381CB52D.6702C7A3@easystreet.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:31:25 -0800 From: Bohdan Tashchuk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; BSD/OS 4.0.1 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BIND (8.1.2) reverse mapping for RFC 1918 addresses? - Please Help References: <9422.941393515@segfault.monkeys.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Ronald F. Guilmette" wrote: > > P.S. More questions: (1) Why was FreeBSD 3.3 distributed with what would > seem to be such an out-of-date named? (2) Why was the named binary that is > being distributed with FreeBSD 3.3 built to use a different default path > for the configuration file from the one that (it seems) ISC recommends? > Does this fall into the category of `annoyingly pointless incompatibilities'? I ran into very similar problems. Bind 8.1.2 was causing timeouts and so I upgraded to 8.2.1. As you point out, the location of the config file is different between what is in FreeBSD 3.3 and what is in the 8.2.1 port. Also, the port itself is a bit of a hassle, because it installs into /usr/local/... and doesn't replace the obsolete Bind binaries. Earlier I had the same problems with FreeBSD 3.2 and so was disappointed that the September release of 3.3 didn't include the newer Bind which was released in June. In fact I was so anxious to fix my Bind problem that I uploaded the ISO disk image as soon as 3.3 came out, to no avail. Since it didn't fix my problem I avoided buying the CD-ROMs, so the upload definitely saved me some money. I don't know how things are in the Linux world, but this same situation was very typical for BSD/OS, the commercial version I used to use. Whenever a new release of BSD/OS came out there would be complaints that the distributed version of some random software was out of date. So FreeBSD is no worse in that respect, and given that the ports mechanism makes updating relatively easy, FreeBSD is IMO better than BSD/OS in regards to current versions. And since so much of FreeBSD is "volunteer", and it's all free, I really can't complain. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 13:35:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from Eng.Auburn.EDU (dns.eng.auburn.edu [131.204.10.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4AE714BC5 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:35:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dyeaiya@eng.auburn.edu) Received: from lab33.eng.auburn.edu (0@lab33.eng.auburn.edu [131.204.14.33]) by Eng.Auburn.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA11115 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:35:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (dyeaiya@localhost) by lab33.eng.auburn.edu (8.8.8+Sun/8.6.4) with ESMTP id NAA23018 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:48:25 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: lab33.eng.auburn.edu: dyeaiya owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:48:25 -0600 (CST) From: "(dai) Yawen Dye" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: installation Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, everybody, I have problem mounting Linux ext2fs under FreeBSD system. I recompile the kernel with "options "EXT2FS" ",and I try to mount the Linux file system using " mount -t ext2fs /dev/wd0s1 /mnt", the system tells me " wrong magic number 11d, ef5* expected for EXT2FS". What should I do? Let me describe how I install the system. I have no CD, so I first install DOS on my computer (2G Disk, I give 800M to DOS), then download all necessary distributions on DOS partition; then I install BSD on the unused disk, after I finish the BSD installation, I delete the DOS patition and install Linux on that 800M space. when all are done, 1. I boot up into Linux system: partition check gives message: hda1 hda2 hda3(hda5 hda6 hda7) "fdisk" tells me that BSD is on hda2, and hda1 is extended partition, hda5, hda6 and hda7 are Linux native or swap, and if I use 'b' to verify BSD slices,it's ok. I sucessfully mount the BSD file system under /mnt 2. I boot up into BSD "disklabel" can't give me any information on Linux partiton. I can't mount Linux under BSD I really want to how I can mount ext2fs under BSD. Please help me. Another question: Does FreeBSD 3.2 support Lucent wavelan wireless network card? How can I find information on how to install device driver, such as pcmcia driver, wavelan card driver ?I get a wavelan driver source code on some website, how can I make it work? When system is bootup, it finds my card in one slot, but I think it doesn't work because it has no proper driver. What can i do? Your helps are appreciate. Sincerely, Yawen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 13:46:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sargon.net (dialup-209.245.132.3.SanJose1.Level3.net [209.245.132.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E19E14BC5 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:46:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jd@davida.com) Received: from davida.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sargon.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01449 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:45:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jd@davida.com) Message-ID: <381CB883.77C1F868@davida.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:45:39 -0800 From: "Joseph I. Davida" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-19990613-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: logging of chat Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The chat man page says that everything is logged via syslog, unless options -V or -S or -s are used, or when echoing is enabled. The following chat script is not sending any useful info to the log file chat.log: /usr/bin/chat -v -r /var/log/chat.log ABORT "NO CARRIER" ABORT "NO DIALTONE" ABO RT "ERROR" ABORT "NO ANSWER" ABORT "BUSY" "" ATZ OK ATDT8494321 CONNECT "" ogin:--ogin: SomeUser ssword SomePassword I was hoping to capture the strings setnt to and received from the mode. After getting no useful info, I resorted to adding this to /etc/syslog.conf: !chat *.* /var/log/chat.log still I get no log of any exchanges with the mode. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 13:53:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.intekom.com (smtp.intekom.com [196.25.69.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3240914F33 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:53:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from evablunted@earthling.net) Received: from uta36-01-p45.ec.saix.net ([155.239.168.45] helo=earthling.net) by mail.intekom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #6) id 11i2tc-0001jL-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:52:16 +0200 Message-ID: <381CBA5C.3637F3AD@earthling.net> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:53:32 +0200 From: Langa Kentane Organization: Sunshine Networks X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-22 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Squid auth_module installation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi I have been trying to install the squid NCSA auth_module but ran into some trouble. A trace of the steps I took follows: 1. Untarred by squid tarball 2. did a cd squid-2. whatever stable 5 (2.2 I think) 3 ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/squid 4. cd auth_modules/NCSA 5 make I then got the ff error: /usr/libexec/elf/ld: cannot open -lmiscutils: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop. What do I do now? Please help before my boss kills me. Thanks in advance. oh, please send replies direct to my address. Langa Kentane To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 14: 7:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cm-24-142-61-16.cableco-op.ispchannel.com (cm-24-142-61-16.cableco-op.ispchannel.com [24.142.61.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC60C14F2A for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:07:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwg@netbox.com) Received: from localhost (jwg@localhost) by cm-24-142-61-16.cableco-op.ispchannel.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14673 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:01:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwg@netbox.com) X-Authentication-Warning: cm-24-142-61-16.cableco-op.ispchannel.com: jwg owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:01:22 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Gray X-Sender: jwg@cm-24-142-61-16.cableco-op.ispchannel.com To: Questions at FreeBSD Subject: chmod on zip disk Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hmmmmm.... My Iomega zip disk works fine, for both read and write, except, 1. as root if I chmod nothing happens. # chmod 664 readme.txt # ll total 29506 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8399 Oct 31 10:34 calendar -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 30198060 Oct 31 13:06 piiijwgr.gz -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4079 Feb 15 1995 readme.txt 2. the files are being created as executables even though my umask sets files, as root, as 644 Suggestions welcomed. Thanks Jeff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 14: 8: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from blues.jpj.net (blues.jpj.net [204.97.17.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2977F14F3D for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:07:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trevor@jpj.net) Received: from localhost (trevor@localhost) by blues.jpj.net (right/backatcha) with SMTP id RAA29795; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:07:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:07:40 -0500 (EST) From: Trevor Johnson Reply-To: Trevor Johnson To: Rick Knebel Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xcmail In-Reply-To: <19991031163001.B1754@rknebel.uplink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libXpm.so.4.10" > Even if you don't use this program can anyone give me an idea what library > is missing and where I can find it. Under 3.3-STABLE, "locate" turns up /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 . If you have that too, you could try making a symlink: # cd /usr/X11R6/lib;ln -s libXpm.so.4 libXpm.so.4.10 Better yet, the source seems to be at ftp://trilug.fh-trier.de/pub/XCmail/xc-mail-1.0.0.tar.gz . __ Trevor Johnson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 14:19:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6661714BED for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:19:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #3) id 11i3Jl-000Gef-00; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:19:17 +0000 Received: from localhost (jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA30492; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:19:17 GMT (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:19:17 +0000 (GMT) From: J McKitrick To: Kevin Street Cc: "Stephen P. Cravey" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading ports and existing programs In-Reply-To: <87zowz8e4j.fsf@mired.eh.local> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I thought the pkg commands were just for binary only packages, not ports? -jm > >Only when you're about to do a `make install' of a new port. Then you >should pkg_delete the old one. BTW `make deinstall' won't work unless > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 14:31:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F77014BF9 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:31:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA66468; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:34:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cjc) From: "Crist J. Clark" Message-Id: <199910312234.RAA66468@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Subject: Re: chmod on zip disk In-Reply-To: from Jeff Gray at "Oct 31, 1999 02:01:22 pm" To: jwg@netbox.com (Jeff Gray) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:34:29 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG (Questions at FreeBSD) Reply-To: cjclark@home.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jeff Gray wrote, > Hmmmmm.... > > My Iomega zip disk works fine, for both read and write, except, > > 1. as root if I chmod nothing happens. > > # chmod 664 readme.txt > # ll > total 29506 > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 8399 Oct 31 10:34 calendar > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 30198060 Oct 31 13:06 piiijwgr.gz > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4079 Feb 15 1995 readme.txt > > 2. the files are being created as executables even though my umask sets > files, as root, as 644 > > Suggestions welcomed. Does the disk have an MS-DOS filesystem? MS-DOS FS does not support file mode bits or ownership. See mount_msdos(8). -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 14:34:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.multinet-media.com (ns1.multinet-media.com [207.18.212.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0B214BF8 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:34:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from drew@multinet-media.com) Received: from multinet-media.com (bdwiggy.multinet-media.com [204.0.122.254]) by ns1.multinet-media.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA01961; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:34:27 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from drew@multinet-media.com) Message-ID: <381CC3DF.1D1B398D@multinet-media.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:34:07 -0600 From: Drew Wiggins Organization: MultiNetMedia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Bob Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "easy installation"!!!!! yeah right References: <199910311705.MAA25791@weedcon1.cropsci.ncsu.edu> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------5FD9097E2299F4EDC6298209" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------5FD9097E2299F4EDC6298209 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Some interesting and very valid points. I think we are looking at things from different standpoints, but share some of the same goals. I like the idea of restructuring the learning approach. For most Unix users, the FMs, online information and faqs, etc are sufficient ( and for someone who is really interested in picking this stuff up, too ). But for today's typical newbie user we do need a more structured suggestion than "RTFM. Which one...? All of them." Maybe we can implement a reward-based system to keep them motivated. Have you ever seen someone study for an MCSE or CCIE exam? I think maybe creating a certification program might help in a several ways. 1) Keeps the user motivated 2) Provide staged learning objectives 3) Give direction and structure to an otherwise "learn whatever you can whenever you can" approach. 4) A reasonably priced exam could help the project financially. Now, to make this thing work, we would have to deem it as a "prestigious, but not impossible" development testing program. At least, we could expect a large group of users who fail the tests but still use the OS because they did learn something, like the OS, and will continue to learn through it's use ( bypassed the whole newbie stage ). At most, we have a large group of users who could easily step into any SA postition with ease and comfort, or who have the capability to contribute to the project. Not to mention the fact that they would be complete FreeBSD advocacy campaigners, seeing as how that's what they're now certified in. ( it's an ego thing, everyone does it. ) Some of the changes you are suggesting, require $$$. I know that there are several of us that would volunteer these services, but the whole PR thing kinda requires it. So we have one of two choices. We could make FreeBSD, $$$BSD and go against the Berkley tradition. Or a few of us can get together and begin promoting the helloutta it. The problem with the first is that it's not going to happen. The problem with the second is that the majority the people we are going to be publicizing to are going to be the same frustrated enduser Joe who started this message thread. And I don't blame them for being frustrated. I just respond differently. But if there's anything worse than no publicity it's bad publicity. So then we can talk about changing utilities to make them more "Joe-friendly." Making a more universally compatible install. More support for various hardware with pre-built drivers. In essence, you're asking for a lot more than just a new marketing approach. Drew P.S. The biggest problem with today's users is that they want to race before they can even drive. I think a drivers license is a prerequisite for entering a Bondurant course. Point taken, though. FreeBSD Bob wrote: > > I've been debating whether or not to post to this legacy thread. > > But I figure, what the heck...I'll add my 2 cents to the pot and > > maybe someone can cash in on a car or boat or something. > > Well, IMHO, the discussion is a good way to feel out the common wisdom. > So, yer zwei pfennigs is welcome. > > ..... > > > ..... If it was easy > > then everyone would do it. The hard is what makes it good. > > ( or maybe that's just me being a control-freak again ). > > Generally agreed, but, for the sake of discussion, we have to consider > the future. There will come a point in time, if FreeBSD is going to > survive with reasonable PR, userbase, generic utility, etc., that it > will have to consider joe enduser running the home box on cablenet. > Joe user is not the professional Berserkeley type, nor the AT&T suits. > But, he is the guy fed up with Gatesware, and has heard a little or > a lot of buzz about this thing *nix (mostly via Penguin buzz) down > at the coffeeshop or the bookstore. Now, if we, as Berserkely types > want to compete in that market, for joe user, then we have to present > ourselves a little better, or perhaps differently, than we would to > the longhair bearded sandal crew that I grew up in. The sandal crew > is gonna get it done, one way or the other. So, that's a null issue. > But, I sense, from reading 500 emails a day, on the list (whew!), > that there is a need for something less sandal crew, and a little more > geard towards garnering our share of the Penguins-to-be. We can't > expect to flesh out our flock by just catching the discontented > Penguins. Although there is merit for using the Penguin school for > our Basic Training, I think we should approach it more directly than > that. Folks, the budding *nix community has gotten bigger than just > the Berserkeley sandal crowd and the geek compsci majors. If we fail > to accommodate the joe endusers, then we are missing the boat in a > big way. > > How do we do that? Good question, but, there are some serious things > that should be considered, based upon what I am gleaning from all the > newsfeeds regarding *nix, as well as our own lists. > > 1. We do need some kind of better training algorithm for the newbie > types that are not the professionals with years of experience, > or the compsci majors. > > 2. We do need some serious on-line training materials, perhaps like > some of the OSU courses, or that kind of thing, presented in a way > that will immediately catch the incoming newbie, and guide them > along. > > 3. We do need some kind of hands-one test drive machine, either via > the website, OR, via something as watered down as a Training Wheels > version of the system that comes up out of a dos shell. Such a > version could be used for evaluation, for training, and for a > one-upsmanship PR coup. > > The above is only IMHO, and we all know everyone is entitled to one > IMHO, just like they are entitled to one arse. But, I do sense > we can't remain the cloistered Berserkeley sandal crew, forever. > > > Is RTFM a prerequisite for new UNIX users? If they want to > > get anything out of me it is, and I'm generally a nice guy. I think > > most people feel the same way. > > RTFM is always important. But, I sense our FM's are needing some > clarity. They are quite good for the professional, and most every > tidbit is there, somewhere, but, sometimes it can be difficult to > find. > > > If you've been monkey-trained to point and click, and you > > are looking for a starting place, then master what you know: learn > > dos inside and out, network functions, telnet, FTP, hosts, lmhosts, > > establish a general knowledge of networking, write some batch files, > > mess around with autoexec.bat and config.sys, learn a programming > > language ( VB does not count ). It will make the transition a lot > > easier. Then pickup a shell account and read a book on dos->unix > > command translations. There are probably more similarities than > > you imagine. > > The problem is that joe enduser does not come from a dos background, > anymore, so that method of training is gone. > > He can't just pick up a shell account anymore, because they are > harder and harder to find with everything becoming webbized. > He needs the account on his own hardware, for even the most basic > training. > > Forget anything dos... dos does not exist anymore. You have to start > WITH *nix directly. Now, the problem is getting joe enduser there, > directly. > > > Will a try-out version of FBSD work...who knows? If it helps > > build better users, then I'm all for it. If it creates a overpopulated > > group of quiters who whine and moan, then I think I could do w/o. > > IMHO, I think it may provide people who think they are interested > > a chance to make a better decision without us all having to listen to > > them and ourselves discussing what we've all heard a million times > > ( as I know this is not new information, so hold the hot stuff ). > > Whiners go elsewhere. Serious joe endusers are most welcome to sign > on board. Perhaps it is time to finalize discussions, and take some > proactive tack (to borrow buzzwords). > > > Last but not least, let's make a quick comparison. Let's say > > you just bought a brand new stick-shift Corvette. Then decided > > that you didn't want to deal with having to learn how to drive a > > car with a manual transmission. Would you complain to the > > manufacturers, that they made the car too difficult to drive? > > Or would you opt to drive another car, that's more suited to your > > driving preferences? Just a thought. > > Interesting aside with the auto bits. If you buy a hot rod, and > you want to race with the bigboyz, you have to go through something > like Bondurant's racing school, or that sort of thing, for hands-on > training, before they even let you out with the 'vette. > > Sadly, with *nix, they shovel you out the door onto the track, and > say crash first, and then ask for help, but first RTFM. Sadly, there > aren't many Formula 1 or CART racing manuals to read. > > I still stand by my contention that we need something for the > joe enduser crowd, rather than rely on Penguin Basic Training, > (although that method seems to work, too). > > Bob > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message --------------5FD9097E2299F4EDC6298209 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="drew.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Drew Wiggins Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="drew.vcf" begin:vcard n:Wiggins;John tel;cell:(806) 786-2764 tel;fax:(806) 472-0858 tel;home:(806) 786-2764 tel;work:(806) 762-3739 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.MultiNet-Media.com/ org:MultiNetMedia;Operations version:2.1 email;internet:drew@multinet-media.com title:IT Director adr;quoted-printable:;;1316 27th Street=0D=0A;Lubbock;TX ;79405;USA x-mozilla-cpt:;-23200 fn:Drew Wiggins end:vcard --------------5FD9097E2299F4EDC6298209-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 15:11:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from peloton.runet.edu (peloton.runet.edu [137.45.96.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E2814CC5 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:11:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brett@peloton.runet.edu) Received: from localhost (brett@localhost) by peloton.runet.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA28946; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:11:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from brett@peloton.runet.edu) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:11:04 -0500 (EST) From: Brett Taylor To: Rick Knebel Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xcmail In-Reply-To: <19991031163001.B1754@rknebel.uplink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Rick Knebel wrote: > I actually found a tar.gz version of xcmail for FreeBSD. > It will install okay but when I go to run it I get: > ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libXpm.so.4.10" Did you find a binary or a source tarball? If it's a binary it may be that it's an a.out executable and you may be running 3.0 or >. In that case you'll need to install the X a.out libraries. If you're not running FBSD-3.0 or greater, you appear to have the wrong xpm library installed. Brett ***************************************************** Dr. Brett Taylor brett@peloton.runet.edu * Dept of Chem and Physics * Curie 39A (540) 831-6147 * Dept. of Mathematics and Statistics * Walker 234 (540) 831-5410 * ***************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 15:16:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailout2.nyroc.rr.com (mailout2-1.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.226.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53CA014CC5 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:16:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from assem@twcny.rr.com) Received: from swan ([24.95.175.224]) by mailout2.nyroc.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:08:54 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991031181547.0095d5d0@pop-server.twcny.rr.com> X-Sender: assem@pop-server.twcny.rr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:17:40 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Assem Salama Subject: BPF Filter Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can someone explain to me how to use the BPF_STMT or what it is used for? Also, any links that better explain the filter machine would be greatly appreciated (I already looked at manpages) Thanks, Assem Salama To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 15:44:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mission.mvnc.edu (mission.mvnc.edu [149.143.2.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35BDA14F5E; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:44:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from iflemmin@mission.mvnc.edu) Received: from localhost (iflemmin@localhost) by mission.mvnc.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id SAA16390; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:41:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:41:51 -0500 (EST) From: Isaac Flemming To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: NASM programs for freebsd Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, I am currently enrolled in college course that requires us to use the Netwide Assembler (NASM). This creates a small problem for me, because I do not have a DOS box in my room, and do not know how to get NASM to work the way I expect it to under FreeBSD. I noticed that NASM is located in the ports collection so I compiled it and have used it to assemble the .asm assembly code I used for DOS in class. The assembler does not give me any errors, but I cannot seem to get the programs to execute. In my most recent attempt I compiled the .asm into aoutb format and tried to link it into a .c program which calls it. The gcc c compiler gave me errors at this point, and I am now at a compleat loss. I have looked around FreeBSD-questions, and hackers archives for several hours but cannot seem to find anything that helps me. Is there any one out there that knows how to get NASM to make a file I can execute, or link into a c program!? Even a simple "hello world" example may help. Thanks a bunch in advance Isaac D. Flemming ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Isaac D. Flemming Senior Computer Science Major Mount Vernon Nazarene College Email: iflemmin@mvnc.edu Phone: (740) 397-6862 x7604 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 15:46:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from adsl-63-195-56-128.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (adsl-63-195-56-128.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.195.56.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBDEE14F70 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:46:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwgr@cm-24-142-61-17.cableco-op.ispchannel.com) Received: from cm-24-142-61-17.cableco-op.ispchannel.com (adsl-63-195-56-128.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.195.56.128]) by adsl-63-195-56-128.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27825; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:46:02 -0800 Message-ID: <381CD4BA.2A768955@cm-24-142-61-17.cableco-op.ispchannel.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:46:02 -0800 From: Jeff Gray Reply-To: jwgray@netbox.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cjclark@home.com Cc: Jeff Gray , Questions at FreeBSD Subject: Re: chmod on zip disk References: <199910312234.RAA66468@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Crist, Thanks, yes msdos fs. Not so familiar with msdos. Just picked up a zip disk from the pile, must have been left over from the soujourn to see what NT looked like. No time like the present to reformat. Jeff > Does the disk have an MS-DOS filesystem? MS-DOS FS does not support > file mode bits or ownership. See mount_msdos(8). > -- > Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com -- Jeff Gray NetBox Inc. email, dns, hosting, ftp, ARs, co-location, and a lot more http://www.netbox.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 15:53:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from home.enger.org (menger.kgv.edu.hk [152.101.128.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A65514F8C for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:53:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from menger@dhs.org) Received: (qmail 15471 invoked by uid 1001); 31 Oct 1999 23:53:20 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 31 Oct 1999 23:53:20 -0000 Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:53:20 +0800 (CST) From: X-Sender: menger@home.enger.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Group limit Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, We are running a system at school which groups teachers by subject area. Unfornatualy some teachers need to be in alot of areas including 2 which are members of over 16 groups. When they reach this "limit" they seem to be unable to access any more groups past the first 16. Is there any way around this limit? from, Matthew Enger menger@dhs.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 16:13: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.lets.net (ns1.lets.net [204.244.88.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A27AB14FAA for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:12:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stainsby@lets.net) Received: (qmail 525 invoked from network); 1 Nov 1999 16:08:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO D7N057) (204.239.159.51) by ns1.lets.net with SMTP; 1 Nov 1999 16:08:15 -0000 Message-ID: <007b01bf23fd$83e23000$339fefcc@vpl.vancouver.bc.ca> From: "Erik Stainsby" To: Subject: reframe of DHCP question Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:10:31 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If I am running a FBSD box as a DHCP'd dial-up workstation, where on this box might I be able to read the expiry time set when the licence was granted? What I wish to do is use this value as a failsafe timeout on the remote ed of a temporary-VPN setup. When the workstation dials in to the ISP, I would like to read my IP and the expirarion time from this machine. I will then submit these values to a daemon on my production server, which will establish my VPN. I know little about DHCP at this point, and less about it's implementation on FBSD. Pointers to manual materials/RFCs etc, appreciated. Erik stainsby@lets.net stainsby@telus.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 16:17:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from akira.lanfear.com (akira.lanfear.com [208.12.10.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC61D15226 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:17:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from MarcW@Lanfear.com) Received: by akira.lanfear.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:19:45 -0800 Message-ID: <13D5F9EDFD72D211BC3100105A1C2233054930@akira.lanfear.com> From: Marc Wandschneider To: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:19:41 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yo! So, i'm trying to build 'imlib' (to use with gnome components) on my system. to build this, i built GTK, libgif, libtiff, and all the other libs it requires. I put them all in /usr/local/lib, and their associated include files in /usr/local/include. The problem is that 'imlib' refuses to build, claiming that all of the above are not installed. this almost certainly seems to be because it can't find them in /usr/local (it's most likely just looking in /usr). So, the question is: how on earth do i set up the system so that /usr/local/include and /usr/local/lib are always set up for their respective purposes? I tried running ldconfig, and ran "ldconfig -R /usr/local/lib". Now when I run ldconfig -r, it lists all the libs in /usr/local/but, imlib still won't build for lack of finding anything. Any pointers or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! marc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 16:18: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from relay1.smtp.psi.net (relay1.smtp.psi.net [38.8.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EA4914E70 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:18:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keichii@mail.utexas.edu) Received: from [38.192.209.90] (helo=keichii) by relay1.smtp.psi.net with smtp (Exim 1.90 #1) id 11i5Af-0003DW-00; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:18:01 -0500 Message-ID: <012d01bf23fe$6d1dd440$5ad1c026@keichii> From: "¶³¹q¤§­· Michael Wu" To: "Brian Handy" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Japanese printing Q Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:17:03 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Here is what I did 1. i18n tools 2.Install tetex 3. XTT server has to be setup right 4. WNN can be used to type Japanese[kanji too] Basically everything in FreeBSD can be in Japanese [Even KDE has a Japanese port if you do not know] Please look at the /usr/ports/japanese stuff for more info www.jp.freebsd.org has extensive materials that you need [I also use apsfilter] Japanese has the best support in FreeBSD of all languages Simply look at how many ports there are in /japanese Have you tried the Japanese FreeBSD mailing lists? :) P.S. Your question belongs in questions@freebsd.org please do not crosspost to 3 or 4 mailing list =) -- Michael Chin-Yuan Wu ¹]¤M¶Q¤@³Î¡M¹Ú·Q¸u¨}¹Ï¡C Strive for the very best, the outcome is not important. FreeBSD - Service Pack FFFF For NT / Ultimate Patch for Linux -- ----- Original Message ----- ±H¥óªÌ: Brian Handy ¦¬¥óªÌ: ¶Ç°e¤é´Á: 1999¦~10¤ë31¤é PM 05:44 ¥D¦®: Japanese printing Q : Hi all, : : I spend more and more time working with some Japanese colleages, and at : the same time I'm working on learning some Japanese...taking an : intermediate Japanese class this fall, and there's more to come. Along : the way I've been working on the Japanese-capability of my home PC here. : : I've figured out ways to send/receive Japanese-encoded email, and I can : even view Japanese text files. The nut I have not been able to crack, : under any terms, is how to *print* Japanese to my non-Japanese printer. I : have an HP Laserjet 5L, which I believe is a PCL printer, so I use : apsfilter to talk to it. For all non-J sorts of things, this works fine. : : I can't figure out what combination of things has to happen to print Kanji : to this printer. I've wandered aimlessly through the ports tree, even : submitted a PR or two. But I can't print! Can anybody toss a suggestion : my way? : : : Thanks, : : Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 16:23:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc2.on.home.com (ha1.rdc2.on.home.com [24.9.0.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81DF14BD4 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:23:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from street@iname.com) Received: from mired.eh.local ([24.64.136.188]) by mail.rdc2.on.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with ESMTP id <19991101002344.YBFC3040.mail.rdc2.on.home.com@mired.eh.local>; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:23:44 -0800 Received: (from kws@localhost) by mired.eh.local (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA44024; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:23:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kws) To: J McKitrick Cc: Kevin Street , "Stephen P. Cravey" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrading ports and existing programs References: From: Kevin Street Date: 31 Oct 1999 19:23:43 -0500 In-Reply-To: J McKitrick's message of "Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:19:17 +0000 (GMT)" Message-ID: <87wvs383g0.fsf@mired.eh.local> Lines: 10 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/XEmacs 21.1 - "Biscayne" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG J McKitrick writes: > I thought the pkg commands were just for binary only packages, not ports? pkg_add is only for packages, but when you `make install' a port it registers itself in /var/db/pkg so you can use pkg_delete or pkg_info. -- Kevin Street street@iname.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 16:31:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BBBE151B7 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:31:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id BAA10953 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 01:31:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA62399 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 01:20:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: Upgrading ports and existing programs Date: 1 Nov 1999 01:20:58 +0100 Message-ID: <7vimda$1sth$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> References: <87zowz8e4j.fsf@mired.eh.local> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG J McKitrick wrote: > I thought the pkg commands were just for binary only packages, not ports? Mostly. However, an installed port is indistinguishable from an installed package. Both have the same entries under /var/db/pkg and both are removed with pkg_delete(1). -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 17: 1: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc2.on.home.com (ha1.rdc2.on.home.com [24.9.0.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D1714BC3 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:00:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from street@iname.com) Received: from mired.eh.local ([24.64.136.188]) by mail.rdc2.on.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with ESMTP id <19991101010058.YLAX3040.mail.rdc2.on.home.com@mired.eh.local>; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:00:58 -0800 Received: (from kws@localhost) by mired.eh.local (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA44305; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:00:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kws) To: "Erik Stainsby" Cc: Subject: Re: reframe of DHCP question References: <007b01bf23fd$83e23000$339fefcc@vpl.vancouver.bc.ca> From: Kevin Street Date: 31 Oct 1999 20:00:58 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Erik Stainsby"'s message of "Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:10:31 -0800" Message-ID: <87u2n781px.fsf@mired.eh.local> Lines: 25 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/XEmacs 21.1 - "Biscayne" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Erik Stainsby" writes: > If I am running a FBSD box as a DHCP'd dial-up workstation, where on this > box > might I be able to read the expiry time set when the licence was granted? > > What I wish to do is use this value as a failsafe timeout on the remote ed > of a > temporary-VPN setup. When the workstation dials in to the ISP, I would like > to read my IP and the expirarion time from this machine. I will then > submit > these values to a daemon on my production server, which will establish my > VPN. man dhclient man dhclient-script It's in /var/db/dhclient.leases but better would be to do this when dhclient-script gets run, which happens every time a lease gets renewed. You can hang your local scripts from some hooks in dhclient-script. -- Kevin Street street@iname.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 17:41:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from locutus.plaidranch.org (locutus.plaidranch.org [209.151.69.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67EC214C01 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:41:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from slayer@locutus.plaidranch.org) Received: from localhost (slayer@localhost) by locutus.plaidranch.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA26212 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:41:19 -0700 Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:41:19 -0700 (MST) From: Graey To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: moving wd1(freebsd) to wd0 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My system has(had) two harddrives, wd0 with win95 and wd1 with freebsd. I want to take the win drive out and only have freebsd in. I installed a boot manager to the freebsd drive. I editted fstab and changed all /dev/wd1 to /dev/wd0. I removed the windows drive and set the jumper on the freebsd drive to master. It boots fine, but I get /dev/wd0 no such device when it goes to load up wd0. What did I do wrong and how can I fix it? Please reply to me directly. Thanks in advance. - Graey -------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.plaidranch.org/~slayer ICQ# 6247141 slayer@plaidranch.org www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/posting-rules/ www.newbiesguide.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 17:53:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.inteliport.net (ns1.inteliport.net [208.27.31.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F66514FE7 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:53:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gameboy@inteliport.com) Received: from inteliport.com (hip83.inteliport.net [208.7.213.83]) by ns1.inteliport.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA00481 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:52:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <381CE47D.5EE592EB@inteliport.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:53:18 -0400 From: Brian X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: pci modems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG how can i get freebie to recognize and use my pci modem that i just bought? thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 18:16:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from revolution.3-cities.com (revolution.3-cities.com [204.203.224.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DECB314BD7 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:16:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn1066.bossig.com [208.26.241.66]) by revolution.3-cities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA16821; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:16:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <381CF7F1.FE8245C7@3-cities.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:16:17 -0800 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Columbia Basin Virtual Community Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pci modems References: <381CE47D.5EE592EB@inteliport.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brian wrote: > > how can i get freebie to recognize and use my pci modem that i just > bought? You probably can't. Most PCI modems are WinModems and are recognized by only the Windows operating systems. Check out your model at http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html. This is really a Linux list but they have the same problem with Winmodems that we do. If it is a Winmodem, take it back and get a real modem that is on Clark's list. You might also consider an external. Externals cost $20 more but if one gets wedged, you can cycle power on it a lot better than having to turn the pc off and back on. Alway check your hardware out for acceptability to an OS before you purchase something. Kent > > thanks > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 18:19:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from green.myip.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A9A14CC5; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:19:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from green@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] ident=green) by green.myip.org with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11i74F-0007AT-00; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:19:31 -0500 Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:19:29 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Fundakowski Feldman X-Sender: green@green.myip.org To: Isaac Flemming Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NASM programs for freebsd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Since FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE, we do not use a.out as the system executable format. You have two choices: (1) If you have to have it a.out for some reason, put OBJFORMAT=aout in your environment. (2) You should probably be just using "elf" as the -f argument for nasm instead. -- Brian Fundakowski Feldman \ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! / green@FreeBSD.org `------------------------------' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 18:24:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles526.castles.com [208.214.165.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4081B152BB for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:24:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA15047; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:16:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199911010216.SAA15047@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Isaac Flemming Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NASM programs for freebsd In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:41:51 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:16:12 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This probably doesn't belong on -hackers at all. > I am currently enrolled in college course that requires us to use the > Netwide Assembler (NASM). This creates a small problem for me, because I > do not have a DOS box in my room, and do not know how to get NASM to work > the way I expect it to under FreeBSD. Then you should probably get a DOS box, or install DOS in a dual-boot situation. > I noticed that NASM is located in the ports collection so I compiled it > and have used it to assemble the .asm assembly code I used for DOS in > class. The assembler does not give me any errors, but I cannot seem to get > the programs to execute. Execute, or behave as expected? You haven't given any sort of detail here, so it's hard to guess, but I'd suspect that one of your problems is or will be that you will try to do I/O to the user, and the DOS examples you've been given won't work under FreeBSD. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 18:29: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33243156D1; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:28:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11i5iW-00046j-00; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:53:00 -0800 Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:52:59 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: Mike Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DPT SmartRAID IV (da0:dpt0:0:0:0) : CCB 0xc550807c - timeout. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 30 Oct 1999, Mike wrote: > Hi all! > > It seems once awhile the FreeBSD-3.3-Release system hangs with the > following message: > > /kernel: (da0:dpt0:0:0:0) : CCB 0xc550807c - timeout. > /kernel: (da0:dpt0:0:0:0) : CCB 0xc5508744 - timeout. You probably want to put the "DPT_VERIFY_HINTR" and "DPT_LOST_IRQ" options into your kernel config file. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 18:33:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from copland.udel.edu (copland.udel.edu [128.175.13.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E27B91509F for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:33:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from papalia@UDel.Edu) Received: from morgaine (host75-157.student.udel.edu [128.175.75.157]) by copland.udel.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA15748; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:33:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19991031213125.009407e0@mail.udel.edu> X-Sender: papalia@mail.udel.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:33:50 -0500 To: Dan Busarow , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: John Subject: Re: Reverse DNS lookup In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> merlin# nslookup 63.224.53.3 >> Server: copland.udel.edu >> Address: 128.175.xx.xx >> *** copland.udel.edu can't find 63.224.53.3: Non-existent host/domain > >That's cause there is no reverse for that IP. It's from a /25 subnet >and US West probably doesn't delegate less than a /24 for in-addr.arpa Could you do me a favor and explain all that? I have no idea what /25 subnet and in-addr.arpa actually mean :) And if that's the case (above) then that might be the problem on all my reverse lookups that go bad. In essence all the problems I'm having are with people using their desktops at work who ssh into my box. But when I try out nslookup on servers from, for example, my old ISP, it works fine both ways. Thanks again!!! --John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 18:37:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from logisticsoftware.co.nz (logisticsoftware.co.nz [202.37.163.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1453414CC4 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:37:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonc@logisticsoftware.co.nz) Received: (from jonc@localhost) by logisticsoftware.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA26691; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:37:24 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 15:37:24 +1300 (NZDT) From: Jonathan Chen To: Marc Wandschneider Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <13D5F9EDFD72D211BC3100105A1C2233054930@akira.lanfear.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Marc Wandschneider wrote: > The problem is that 'imlib' refuses to build, claiming that all > of the above are not installed. this almost certainly seems to be > because it can't find them in /usr/local (it's most likely just looking > in /usr). > > So, the question is: how on earth do i set up the system so that > /usr/local/include and /usr/local/lib are always set up for their > respective purposes? You could try installing imlib using the ports system. It'll make all the required tweaks etc. Just installed in 5 days ago, with no problems. Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Clothes do make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 18:39: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.det.ameritech.net (mpdr0.detroit.mi.ameritech.net [206.141.239.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2E014CC4 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:38:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asyndicate@ameritech.net) Received: from eclipse.agitated.net ([206.141.209.24]) by mailhost.det.ameritech.net (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with SMTP id <19991101023856.POES5474.mailhost.det.ameritech.net@eclipse.agitated.net> for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:38:56 -0500 From: Andrew Forgue To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: WINS Client. Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:37:01 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99103121385000.01151@eclipse.agitated.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I will soon be attending a school that uses wins servers for netbois name resolution. And i am wondering Does fBSD have support for this or will samba do it for me.? Thanx. Andy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 18:42:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from akira.lanfear.com (akira.lanfear.com [208.12.10.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD00514ECA for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:42:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from MarcW@Lanfear.com) Received: by akira.lanfear.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:44:45 -0800 Message-ID: <13D5F9EDFD72D211BC3100105A1C2233054931@akira.lanfear.com> From: Marc Wandschneider To: 'Jonathan Chen' , Marc Wandschneider Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: your mail Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:44:38 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Chen [mailto:jonc@logisticsoftware.co.nz] > Sent: Sun, October 31, 1999 6:37 PM > To: Marc Wandschneider > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: your mail > > You could try installing imlib using the ports system. It'll make > all the required tweaks etc. Just installed in 5 days ago, with no > problems. Method of last resort. I'm trying to get back into the swing of building things and coding again. it's been a while since i've done any UN*X coding ... marc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 18:45:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7116815032 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:45:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@wintelcom.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA13554; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:08:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:08:56 -0800 (PST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: menger@dhs.org Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Group limit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 menger@dhs.org wrote: > Hello, > We are running a system at school which groups teachers by subject > area. Unfornatualy some teachers need to be in alot of areas including 2 > which are members of over 16 groups. When they reach this "limit" they > seem to be unable to access any more groups past the first 16. Is there > any way around this limit? This has been asked many times on the list, try increasing NGROUPS_MAX in your kernel config file, be aware that this can cause problems with NFS though. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 18:46:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC6715032 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:46:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mda@discerning.com) Received: from mdaxke (cm-24-142-61-115.cableco-op.ispchannel.com [24.142.61.115]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id SAA15433 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:45:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <004301bf2413$4d6a64a0$0200a8c0@mdaxke> From: "Mark D. Anderson" To: Subject: how to replicate a kernel config and binaries across heterogenous hw? Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:46:00 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG this must be a FAQ, but i can't find it. i suppose that is what this list is for.... supposing i have chosen my desired kernel build parameters, concerning whether i want quota enabled, promiscuous ethernet, blah, blah, as well as other options. i'd now like to use those decisions on all freebsd machines i manage -- or at least, the ones with like purpose (such as all web server or all db servers or all firewall machines). i'd also like to just sync binaries to other machines -- i'm ok if this means building in support for all devices, and not have to make world on each one. some machines have multiple scsi disks, some have just one IDE disk, etc. of course, there is still some per-host config that has to be preserved (devices, hostname, etc.). when i decide to fetch new kernel sources, i'd like to just build it once and install multiple places. i don't need to hear about dd and rsync and scp and other replication mechanisms. i can do that. i'm worried about traps in what might happen if i replicate the wrong thing: about freebsd-specific issues, such as files i need to worry about, what config decisions are really determined at kernel compile time and not runtime, and other recipes from people who have done this. on a related note, for certain production machines, i'd like to be able to minimize as much as possible the downtime due to a kernel upgrade. are there general tips on that? note that i run my firewall machine with an init security level that effectively forbids writes. -mda To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 18:51:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C37B614DF5 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:51:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@wintelcom.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA13665; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:14:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:14:22 -0800 (PST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Marc Wandschneider Cc: "'Jonathan Chen'" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: (use the ports luke!) RE: your mail In-Reply-To: <13D5F9EDFD72D211BC3100105A1C2233054931@akira.lanfear.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Marc Wandschneider wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jonathan Chen [mailto:jonc@logisticsoftware.co.nz] > > Sent: Sun, October 31, 1999 6:37 PM > > To: Marc Wandschneider > > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: your mail > > > > You could try installing imlib using the ports system. It'll make > > all the required tweaks etc. Just installed in 5 days ago, with no > > problems. > > Method of last resort. I'm trying to get back into the swing of > building things and coding again. it's been a while since i've done any > UN*X coding ... Why? Why do you insist on compiling it yourself and then ask questions on how to build it when: a) you can just have easily done it out of ports b) you could have looked at how the ports system 'fixes' the problem you're having. c) someone worked hard on porting it for you. Yes, I know rarely a port can install in such a way that isn't optimal for you, but then that can easily be solved by using send-pr to ask the port maintainer to assist you. If you want to work on porting applications then work on something that _isn't_ ported and submit it as a port, people will be glad to assist you on the way. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 18:53: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A8FA14DF5 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:53:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@wintelcom.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA13762; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:16:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:16:09 -0800 (PST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Graey Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: moving wd1(freebsd) to wd0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Graey wrote: > > My system has(had) two harddrives, wd0 with win95 and wd1 with freebsd. I > want to take the win drive out and only have freebsd in. I installed a > boot manager to the freebsd drive. I editted fstab and changed all > /dev/wd1 to /dev/wd0. I removed the windows drive and set the jumper on > the freebsd drive to master. It boots fine, but I get /dev/wd0 no such > device when it goes to load up wd0. What did I do wrong and how can I fix > it? You probably don't have the required devices in /dev, you need to somehow mount your root device (possibly by temporarily moving the drive back to wd1) and do this: cd /dev ; sh MAKEDEV wd0s1e -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 18:54:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from akira.lanfear.com (akira.lanfear.com [208.12.10.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C0114DF5 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:54:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from MarcW@Lanfear.com) Received: by akira.lanfear.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:56:35 -0800 Message-ID: <13D5F9EDFD72D211BC3100105A1C2233054933@akira.lanfear.com> From: Marc Wandschneider To: 'Alfred Perlstein' , Marc Wandschneider Cc: 'Jonathan Chen' , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: (use the ports luke!) RE: your mail Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:56:30 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: Alfred Perlstein [mailto:bright@wintelcom.net] > Subject: (use the ports luke!) RE: your mail > > > Why? Why do you insist on compiling it yourself and then ask > questions > on how to build it when: Because, eventually, i'm going to put a library in /usr/local/lib that's going to cause me to run into this problem again. The question asked as a general one: where do i tell the system about libs and headers in /usr/local/XXX. i can't believe that this is that obscure that only build masters would know about such things ... marc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 18:58:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F6914FFD for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:58:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@wintelcom.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA13884; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:21:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:21:56 -0800 (PST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Marc Wandschneider Cc: "'Jonathan Chen'" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: (use the ports luke!) RE: your mail In-Reply-To: <13D5F9EDFD72D211BC3100105A1C2233054933@akira.lanfear.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Marc Wandschneider wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alfred Perlstein [mailto:bright@wintelcom.net] > > Subject: (use the ports luke!) RE: your mail > > > > > > Why? Why do you insist on compiling it yourself and then ask > > questions > > on how to build it when: > > Because, eventually, i'm going to put a library in > /usr/local/lib that's going to cause me to run into this problem again. > The question asked as a general one: where do i tell the system about > libs and headers in /usr/local/XXX. > > i can't believe that this is that obscure that only build > masters would know about such things ... export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/path1:/path2 and for C includes: export C_INCLUDE_PATH=/path1:/path2 btw, if the port can do it, so can you, just watch/trace what the port does to fix the problem. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 19: 0:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wireless.net (wireless.net [207.137.156.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E52E14E8B for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:00:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dbutter@wireless.net) Received: from db.wireless.net (db.wireless.net [209.75.70.101]) by wireless.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with ESMTP id TAA10430 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:03:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from wireless.net (dbm.wireless.net [192.168.0.2]) by db.wireless.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA24044 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:54:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dbutter@wireless.net) Message-ID: <381D033B.127B2AE5@wireless.net> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:04:27 -0800 From: Devin Butterfield X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Kdevelop on FreeBSD?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I am just wondering if anyone has been able to successfully compile and run Kdevelop on FreeBSD 3.2 or greater. I am running 3.3 and have not had any luck compiling Kdevelop 1.0beta4. Before I go posting the ugly output from the compiler, I was wondering if anyone has even been successful at compiling Kdevelop? Is there any hope or is Kdevelop too "linuxcentric"? Thanks in advance! -- Regards, Devin. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 19: 7:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pop.idx.com.au (pop.idx.com.au [203.14.30.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9BE14E8B for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:07:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danny@idx.com.au) Received: from psych (idxwc07-26.idx.com.au [203.166.2.26]) by pop.idx.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA26572; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 14:18:47 +1100 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19991101140749.006917a0@pop.idx.com.au> X-Sender: danny@pop.idx.com.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 14:07:54 +1100 To: Ken Wills From: Danny Subject: RE: GNOME installation problem --help Cc: "Wills, Ken" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG thank you ill try that to see if it works :) At 11:55 29/10/99 -0500, Ken Wills wrote: >On Fri, 29 Oct 1999, Danny wrote: > >> >> I should goto /freebsd/ports/packages/gnome/ -- get it on mfreebsd >> Without the need to copy all the distfiles ? >> > >copy the files you have into /usr/ports/distfiles and try installing. >Depending when you last updated you ports, and what files you have, you'll >have some measure of success. Fetch the files you don't have (versions are >very important) and repeat. > >> >> >> >> Runniing Freebsd 227 >> >> Want to install GNOME >> >> Behind a firewall so port 21 is not available >> >> Have an attachment with the listing on files >> >> >> >> Question:- >> >> >> >> Which file should I compile and what commands do I type in ?? >> >> > >Ken > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 19:21:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f235.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9596815129 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:21:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsd_freebsd@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 43080 invoked by uid 0); 1 Nov 1999 03:21:22 -0000 Message-ID: <19991101032122.43079.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 203.166.2.26 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:21:20 PST X-Originating-IP: [203.166.2.26] From: "danny h" To: bunny@super.net.pk, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Administration of Free BSD Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 03:21:20 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To kill the ftp process type "kill -9 " If you want to learn about Freebsd Administration Buy Greg Leheny's Complete Freebsd from cdrom.com or amazon.com Subscribe to the Freebsd mailing list Work on some project like setting up X windows Doing the above things is the only way to learn :) >From: "bunny" >To: >Subject: Administration of Free BSD >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 19:28:57 +0500 > >Sir, >i am new to this software and would like some help regarding the >Administration of the FreeBSD. My questions are as follows: > >Q1: How do you stop the ftp process? >Q2: How to manage the FreeBSD server ? > >Please explain. > >Thanks & Regards, > >Bakhtiar Ghazanfar > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 19:27: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F0D152FE; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:26:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA04554; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:25:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:25:55 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey To: Isaac Flemming Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NASM programs for freebsd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Isaac Flemming wrote: > > Hello all, > > I am currently enrolled in college course that requires us to use the > Netwide Assembler (NASM). This creates a small problem for me, because I > do not have a DOS box in my room, and do not know how to get NASM to work > the way I expect it to under FreeBSD. > > I noticed that NASM is located in the ports collection so I compiled it > and have used it to assemble the .asm assembly code I used for DOS in > class. The assembler does not give me any errors, but I cannot seem to get > the programs to execute. In my most recent attempt I compiled the .asm > into aoutb format and tried to link it into a .c program which calls it. > The gcc c compiler gave me errors at this point, and I am now at a > compleat loss. I have looked around FreeBSD-questions, and hackers > archives for several hours but cannot seem to find anything that helps me. > Is there any one out there that knows how to get NASM to make a file I can > execute, or link into a c program!? Even a simple "hello world" example > may help. You don't state what FreeBSD version you're running, but there was a switch to ELF loading format, so it's entirely possible you could get it to work because of incorrect format. Regardless, you committed the cardinal sin of giving us no data, not your failed program, not your error messages, not the FreeBSD version. You could have only hit about 3,000 possible ways to do things wrong, but you're asking us to guess. OK, I'll use the one piece of data you *did* give; you said you wrote your program for DOS. Are you aware that FreeBSD accesses system services in an entirely different way than you do under DOS? No BIOS interrupts, no DOS interrupts, things don't work that way. Of, course, maybe you did know that, but we can't tell, you didn't supply the data ... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include C programming, Electronics, 213 Lakeside Dr. Apt. T-1 | communications, and signal processing. Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic.mat.net: FreeBSD-current(i386) and (301) 220-2114 | jaunt.mat.net : FreeBSD-current(Alpha) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 20: 8:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sir-alan.chem.indiana.edu (sir-alan.chem.indiana.edu [129.79.137.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1004151CB for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:08:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msquires@sir-alan.chem.indiana.edu) Received: (from msquires@localhost) by sir-alan.chem.indiana.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) id XAA49847; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:11:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from msquires) From: Mike Squires Message-Id: <199911010411.XAA49847@sir-alan.chem.indiana.edu> Subject: Re: nfsd: can't register with udp portmap In-Reply-To: <19991031193359.59437.qmail@hotmail.com> from nelson huang at "Nov 1, 1999 3:33:58 am" To: chihhsienhuang@hotmail.com (nelson huang) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:11:07 -0500 (EST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > I just installed FreeBSD 3.3 as a NFS server, > > > but it always responses with the message > > > "nfsd: can't register with udp portmap" in > > > /var/log/messages. What's wrong? Please help! Check out the following line in rc.conf. It may say something like: network_interfaces="fxp0 auto" it should say network_interfaces="fxp0 lo0" (i.e., replace auto with lo0" otherwise the localhost interface is not properly configured. I did not see this in the ERRATA.TXT the last time I looked. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 20:16: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from satsuma.mail.easynet.net (satsuma.mail.easynet.net [195.40.1.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA79A14BD3 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:16:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ak@freenet.co.uk) Received: from freenet.co.uk (alister.w.easynet.co.uk [212.212.251.86]) by satsuma.mail.easynet.net with ESMTP id 6E3EA7B036; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 04:15:51 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <381D13FE.D3D3F636@freenet.co.uk> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 04:15:58 +0000 From: Alex X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Mutsaers Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: e2fsck for FreeBSD? References: <87wvs999ez.fsf@muon.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Peter Mutsaers wrote: > > I run FreeBSD with some Linux ext2fs filesystems mounted. Sometimes > FreeBSD crashes (really, but I'm running current so what do you expect :). > > Afterwards, all filesystems are dirty and need to be checked. The > ext2fs filesystems however aren't checked (unless I would boot into > Linux), thus they can no longer be mounted (read/write). > > It would be nice to be able to clean the ext2fs filesystems in > FreeBSD. Is there a e2fsck for FreeBSD? I tried to run the Linux one > under Linux emulation, but it failed miserably. There is one in OpenBSD (called fsck_ext2fs), which should be possible to port over. If you decide to have a go at it, you might as well bring in their fsck_msdos. Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 20:22:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sir-alan.chem.indiana.edu (sir-alan.chem.indiana.edu [129.79.137.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95C7E150C4 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:22:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msquires@sir-alan.chem.indiana.edu) Received: (from msquires@localhost) by sir-alan.chem.indiana.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) id XAA49985; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:25:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from msquires) From: Mike Squires Message-Id: <199911010425.XAA49985@sir-alan.chem.indiana.edu> Subject: samba and SMP To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:25:42 -0500 (EST) Cc: samba@samba.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've now tried 2.0.6pre2 with a SuperMicro P6DNF dual PPro as well as the Everex StepDP/Pro dual PPro MB; same result, large (more than 1 MB) file copies usually crash with only a message about oplock errors in the logfile. Running a single CPU kernel works fine (pre2 seems much faster, but I haven't done any testing). 2.0.5a does the same. NFS and mars_nwe with the same hardware and SMP kernel work fine, even with very large files (GB) and high throughput (3MB/sec sustained). There are no hardware errors reported at any time; memory passes AMIDiag's pattern testing without a peep. The SM used completely different hardware and a fresh installation, by the way. Client is an NT4 SP5 workstation; have tried both server and domain authentication. I have many KB of mptable/kernel config files/log files, but none of it seems very helpful. I suspect that a sniffer will be required to do a packet trace. Any suggestions? Mike Squires To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 20:45:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from bekool.com (ns2.netquick.net [216.48.34.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F3314CAA for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:45:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trouble@hackfurby.com) Received: from angelsguardian.netquick.net ([199.72.47.239] helo=hackfurby.com ident=root) by bekool.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11i9m4-0007jQ-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 01 Nov 1999 05:12:56 +0000 Message-ID: <381CD49F.7243D959@hackfurby.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:45:35 -0500 From: TrouBle Reply-To: trouble@hackfurby.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; OpenBSD 2.6 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: REWARD...! Perl Programmer master.passwd problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Okay real simple.... ive had enough, i have a cash reward of a decent sum to the first perl programmer who can re-write a script, to work with the BSd style master.passwd file and write it cortrectly, this is a web based cgi written in perl, orginially for linux shadow passwds. i can give you access to the box, the script and the first person who can provide a working solution gets the dough... oh... yeah the dough, well its a few hundred dollars offered by my employer. let me know who wants a crack at it ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 21:15:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A35214C59 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:15:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA86930; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:15:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:15:17 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: TrouBle Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: REWARD...! Perl Programmer master.passwd problem Message-ID: <19991031231517.A86862@dan.emsphone.com> References: <381CD49F.7243D959@hackfurby.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <381CD49F.7243D959@hackfurby.com>; from trouble@hackfurby.com on Sun, Oct 31, 1999 at 06:45:35PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the last episode (Oct 31), TrouBle said: > Okay real simple.... ive had enough, i have a cash reward of a decent > sum to the first perl programmer who can re-write a script, to work > with the BSd style master.passwd file and write it cortrectly, this > is a web based cgi written in perl, orginially for linux shadow > passwds. i can give you access to the box, the script and the first > person who can provide a working solution gets the dough... oh... > yeah the dough, well its a few hundred dollars offered by my > employer. let me know who wants a crack at it ! Why are you manually modifying master.passwd in the first place? Does the 'pw' command not do what you want? User programs really shouldn't mess with the passwd file at all. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@emsphone.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 21:15:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from home.enger.org (menger.kgv.edu.hk [152.101.128.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D37D014FF8 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:15:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from menger@dhs.org) Received: (qmail 16511 invoked by uid 1001); 1 Nov 1999 05:15:21 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Nov 1999 05:15:21 -0000 Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:15:21 +0800 (CST) From: X-Sender: menger@home.enger.org To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Group limit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, According to config, there is no such option as NGROUPS_MAX. Are you sure that I am ment to set this inside my kernel config file? from, Matthew Enger menger@dhs.org On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 menger@dhs.org wrote: > > > Hello, > > We are running a system at school which groups teachers by subject > > area. Unfornatualy some teachers need to be in alot of areas including 2 > > which are members of over 16 groups. When they reach this "limit" they > > seem to be unable to access any more groups past the first 16. Is there > > any way around this limit? > > This has been asked many times on the list, try increasing NGROUPS_MAX > in your kernel config file, be aware that this can cause problems with > NFS though. > > -Alfred > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 21:18:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.ihug.co.nz (tk2.ihug.co.nz [203.29.160.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3368014E6F for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:18:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian.e@Ihug.co.nz) Received: from Ihug.co.nz (p374.nzwide.ihug.co.nz [203.109.137.119]) by smtp2.ihug.co.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id SAA19649 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 18:18:22 +1300 Message-ID: <381D23CC.AAC36A3F@Ihug.co.nz> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 18:23:24 +1300 From: "brian.e" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Screenshot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I attend a polytechnic in New Zealand doing computer studies and I have a research project to compile. However the study I am doing is of comparisons between operating systems and nowhere can I find a screenshot of FreeBSD. If you could please inform me where I could find one as I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 21:23:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.cybersurf.net (smtp1.cybersurf.net [209.197.145.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93F414E6F for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:23:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from 01031149@3web.net) Received: from 01031149 ([209.197.154.108]) by smtp1.cybersurf.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.05) with SMTP id FKI70T00.CF8 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:24:29 -0700 Message-ID: <000f01bf2431$d68808a0$6c9ac5d1@01031149> From: "Duke Normandin" <01031149@3web.net> To: Subject: Re: "easy installation"!!!!! yeah right Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:22:48 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm a 52yr old newbie --- worse I don't know jack-shit about FreeBSD or any *nix for that matter. So please take my following observations in that context. It is NOT my intention to disparage anyone. I have never been an IT professional but did start dinking with computers in the days of CPM and the Apple 2E. So I have done my fair share of tinkering. When GUI Macs appeared and then Windoze (say around 1986?) I made the statement then to a friend of mine that Unix ought to get the lead out, come out of the inner sanctum and *show* itself for what it can be for the masses. Of course hardware appropriate for Unix was prohibitive for the masses. Now it isn't, and IMHO *nix (except for the Penguin) in still cloistered in it's inner sanctum. I have wanted to learn Unix all this time. But guys, to launch myself in this new caper, "I simply want to know the time, NOT how to make a watch" -- if you get my meaning. Personally, being a tinkerer, I'll definitely want to know "how to make that watch" -- but later, when I'm comfortable "telling time". When you guys first started driving cars, where you all in a position to set the valve timing, the ignition timing, etc. Can you guys NOW overhaul your fuel injectors and tune your high-tech engines. Do you want to know how? Do you care? I'm amazed at the brain-power, and level of knowledge and competence on this list. I also read the PHP language list, and am equally amazed at the level of expertise of *those* C programmers, especially Rasmus Lerdorf -- PHP's creator. I can't for the life of me believe that you folks can't present FreeBSD to the world in a simple, no-brainer version to get us wnnabee dummies in the drivers seat. You know what, once were *in* that drivers seat and marvelling and drueling at FBSD's capabilities, you have then gone a long way into making the next generation of FBSD gurus. However, if all we newbies can do is lurch forward like someone learning to drive a standard transmission, and never get moving or are so limited by the complexities, then FBSD *may* remain a novelty only to be enjoyed by a few gifted folks. I'm not suggesting to compromise the open-endedness of *nix, but simply to put together a useful, single-user, beginner's package that is a no-brainer to get going. Once they're behind the FBSD wheel, you've got them for life. *Then* we can start doing our homework for the more complicated network stuff etc. Unfortunately, it's ALL a question of marketing and PR. The proof is staring us all in the face --- a marginal product (windoze vis-a-vis FBSD) has made it huge worlwide. Linux is making huge headway. What do these two products have in common -- marketing & PR *and* ease of installation (although Linux still has a ways to go, I think). FBSD will *never* evangelise and convert the masses unless it does likewise -- but better. Here's a golden opportunity to take the wind out of both Windoze and Linux's sails. I just can't accept that people as *sharp* as you can't do it!! Or maybe it's that you don't want to.....In the meantime, I'll continue lurking, reading and learning FBSD. with respect.....duke To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 21:47:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9169E14E6F for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:47:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@wintelcom.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA18160; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:10:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:10:42 -0800 (PST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: menger@dhs.org Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Group limit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 menger@dhs.org wrote: > Hello, > According to config, there is no such option as NGROUPS_MAX. Are > you sure that I am ment to set this inside my kernel config file? no, i'm lying to you just to malicious... Dan Nelson actually has a better way: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1284824+1287592+/usr/local/www/db/text/1998/freebsd-questions/19980517.freebsd-questions -Alfred > > from, > Matthew Enger > menger@dhs.org > > On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > On Mon, 1 Nov 1999 menger@dhs.org wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > We are running a system at school which groups teachers by subject > > > area. Unfornatualy some teachers need to be in alot of areas including 2 > > > which are members of over 16 groups. When they reach this "limit" they > > > seem to be unable to access any more groups past the first 16. Is there > > > any way around this limit? > > > > This has been asked many times on the list, try increasing NGROUPS_MAX > > in your kernel config file, be aware that this can cause problems with > > NFS though. > > > > -Alfred > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@rush.net|alfred@freebsd.org] Wintelcom systems administrator and programmer - http://www.wintelcom.net/ [bright@wintelcom.net] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 22: 4:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dart.sr.se (dart.SR.SE [193.12.91.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD7B814EDA for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:04:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: from honken.sr.se ([134.25.128.27]) by dart.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29332; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:04:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from pluto.sr.se (pluto.SR.SE [134.25.193.91]) by honken.sr.se (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA04034; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:04:39 +0100 (MET) Received: (from gunnar@localhost) by pluto.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA26835; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:04:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gunnar) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:04:39 +0100 From: Gunnar Flygt To: Ian J Greely Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 128 -bit encrypted version of Netscape for Europe Message-ID: <19991101070439.A26816@sr.se> Reply-To: Gunnar Flygt References: <19991031133725.A23974@sr.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 31, 1999 at 01:40:22PM +0000, Ian J Greely wrote: > Is the FreeBSD version crippled then? > > The standard *doze* export version of Netscape actually has full 128 > bit encryption but only with certain keys. Banks in foreign (to the > US) countries can buy certificates which will turn on this 128bit > encryption for *their* transactions with the customer. I don't think my bank will do this because of me using FreebSD, when the rest is using M$ with Netscape that HAS got 128-bit encryption. > > So far as I was aware only Banks could get these keys. > > As I recall there was a hack for the Doze code that would turn on the > 128 bit encryption for ALL communications. > > regards, > Ian > > On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 08:07:27 -0500 (EST), you wrote: > > >Gunnar, > > > >Check out Fortify for Netscape at www.fortify.net It provides 128-bit > >security for export-grade browsers and is available for FreeBSD, as well > >as many other platforms. > > > >Disclaimer: I've never used the product, but I've seen it recommended on > >many security related web sites (e.g., www.squirrel.com). > > > > > >Eric Wayte, DBA > >Univ. of Central Florida > >ewayte@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu > > > >On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Gunnar Flygt wrote: > > > >> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:37:25 +0100 > >> From: Gunnar Flygt > >> Reply-To: Gunnar Flygt > >> To: FreeBSD Questions > >> Subject: 128 -bit encrypted version of Netscape for Europe > >> > >> Where can I get hold of a FreeBSD-runnable version of Netscape with > >> strong encryption, in Europe? > >> > >> My bank strongly advises me to use 128-bit version of Netscape. I don't > >> want to do these things in M$ products since I've got rid of almost > >> every need for them elsewhere. > >> > >> -- > >> __o > >> regards, Gunnar ---_ \<,_ > >> email: flygt@sr.se ---- (_)/ (_) > >> > >> > >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- __o regards, Gunnar ---_ \<,_ email: flygt@sr.se ---- (_)/ (_) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 22: 5:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from dart.sr.se (dart.SR.SE [193.12.91.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F5714EDA for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:05:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: from honken.sr.se ([134.25.128.27]) by dart.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA29341; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:05:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from pluto.sr.se (pluto.SR.SE [134.25.193.91]) by honken.sr.se (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA04041; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:05:16 +0100 (MET) Received: (from gunnar@localhost) by pluto.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA26855; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:05:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gunnar) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:05:16 +0100 From: Gunnar Flygt To: Christian Weisgerber Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: 128 -bit encrypted version of Netscape for Europe Message-ID: <19991101070516.B26816@sr.se> Reply-To: Gunnar Flygt References: <19991031133725.A23974@sr.se> <7vhpc5$1dd1$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <7vhpc5$1dd1$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Oct 31, 1999 at 05:05:25PM +0100, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > In article <19991031133725.A23974@sr.se>, Gunnar Flygt wrote: > > > Where can I get hold of a FreeBSD-runnable version of Netscape with > > strong encryption, in Europe? > > cd /usr/ports/www/netscape47-navigator && make -DUSE_128BIT install clean Thanks! > > -- > Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- __o regards, Gunnar ---_ \<,_ email: flygt@sr.se ---- (_)/ (_) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 22:11:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from ns0.sitesnow.com (ns0.sitesnow.com [216.130.1.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87AE214EDA for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:11:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gskouby@ns0.sitesnow.com) Received: from gskouby (helo=localhost) by ns0.sitesnow.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11iAgZ-000Kqp-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 01:11:19 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 01:11:19 -0500 (EST) From: Greg Skouby To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: vinum RAID-5 again Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I got this sample RAID-5 config off of lemis.com/vinum and it seems over simplified to the point where I don't think I understand it. If at any time in this message you think I need to go back and RTFM please stop reading and let me know that. This is the sample config for RAID-5 that I am referring to: drive e device /dev/da6h volume raid5 plex org raid5 512k sd length 128m drive a sd length 128m drive b sd length 128m drive c sd length 128m drive d sd length 128m drive e I have a couple of questions about this. Is this config only slicing up one drive? That is what I gather from the config but the theory behind RAID-5 is that you need at least 3 for there to be a point in using RAID-5. So one of my many questions is that where do the drive a, drive b, drive c, drive d, and drive e 's come from? Are there seperated statements for those devices like there is for the drive e? Something such as drive a devide /dev/da0h? I guess I am just confused. Let me hit you up with the scenario that I am trying to use RAID-5 in. I have 4 external seagate drives of 23gigs each. I want to use those 4 drives in a RAID-5 array. They are da0 through da3. The drive where the OS sits is da4. I am wondering what I need to do to get RAID-5 running across those four drives. Thanks for all of your help. I appreciated it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Oct 31 22:13:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from vitebsky.com (vhi.kurgan.ru [195.54.28.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BEDA14EDA for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:12:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vadim@vitebsky.com) Received: from vadim (vadim [192.168.1.3]) by vitebsky.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id LAA11695 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:20:37 +0500 (ES) (envelope-from vadim@vitebsky.com) From: "Vadim Vitebsky" To: "FreeBSD TechSupport" Subject: QUESTION about /VAR/RUN/UTMP Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:29:44 +0500 Message-ID: <01be62ec$1ccdb600$0301a8c0@vadim.vhi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bi