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Subject: kernel panic - ATA failure after upgrading to 4.6-STABLE
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Hi Everyone,

I have been trying to upgrade to 4.6-STABLE from 4.6-RELEASE for 3 days
now..... No matter what I try I get the below errors on boot.

Steps I have taken:

CVSuped my full src (10/08/02)
make -j 4 buildworld
make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL
make installkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL
make installworld
backup /etc
run mergemaster
rebuild /dev
rebuild sysinstall

I get no errors what so ever from all the above, only when I reboot and
it tries to boot on the new kernel do I have issues. I even tried
building the GENERIC kernel and it had the same problem.

If you have any ideas as to what might be happening please help me out
:) Also if you require more info just shoot me an email - I have
included a "dmesg" at the bottom just to give an overview of my system.

Thanks for reading!

Cheers,
Chris

------------------------------------------------------------------------
<snip>
ad0: timeout waiting for interrupt
ad0: timeout waiting for interrupt
ad0: enabling readahead cache failed
ad0: timeout waiting for interrupt
ad0: enabling write cache failed
ad0: READ command timeout tag=0, serv=0 - resetting
ata0: resetting devices .. done.
ad0: 9779MB <WDC WD102BA> [19870/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33
ad0: READ command timeout tag=0, serv=0 - resetting
ata0: resetting devices .. done.
acd0: MODE_SENSE_BIG command timeout - resetting
ata1: resetting devices .. done.
ad0: READ command timeout tag=0, serv=0 - resetting
ata0: resetting devices .. done.
acd0: MODE_SENSE_BIG command timeout - resetting
ata1: resetting devices .. done.
ad0: READ command timeout tag=0, serv=0 - resetting
ad0: trying fallback to PIO mode
ata0: resetting devices .. done.
acd0: MODE_SENSE_BIG command timeout - resetting
ata1: resetting devices .. done.
ad0: READ command timeout tag=0, serv=0 - resetting
ata0: resetting devices .. ata0-slave: ATA identify retires exceeded
done
acd0: MODE_SENSE_BIG command timeout - resetting
ata1: resetting devices .. done.

Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
fault virtual address		= 0xb
fault code				= supervisor read, page not
present
instruction pointer		= 0x8:0xc012fad9
stack pointer			= 0x10:0xc0301f04
frame pointer			= 0x10:0xc0301f10
code segment			= base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
					= DPC
processor eflags			= interrupt enabled, resume,
IOPL=0
current process			= 0 (swapper)
interrupt mask			= bio
trap number				= 12
panic: page fault

syncing disks
done

------------------------------------------------------------------------
dmesg:
Copyright (c) 1992-2002 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
        The Regents of the University of California. All rights
reserved.
FreeBSD 4.6-RELEASE #0: Tue Jun 11 06:14:12 GMT 2002
    murray@builder.freebsdmall.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (400.91-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x665  Stepping = 5
 
Features=0x183f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,C
MOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR>
real memory  = 402653184 (393216K bytes)
avail memory = 386564096 (377504K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel.GENERIC" at 0xc04d0000.
Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
md0: Malloc disk
Using $PIR table, 7 entries at 0xc00f0cc0
npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
pcib0: <Intel 82443LX (440 LX) host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
pcib1: <Intel 82443LX (440 LX) PCI-PCI (AGP) bridge> at device 1.0 on
pci0
pci1: <PCI bus> on pcib1
pci1: <3Dfx Voodoo 3 graphics accelerator> at 0.0 irq 11
isab0: <Intel 82371AB PCI to ISA bridge> at device 4.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
atapci0: <Intel PIIX4 ATA33 controller> port 0xb800-0xb80f at device 4.1
on pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
uhci0: <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller> port 0xb400-0xb41f irq
9 at device 4.2 on pci0
usb0: <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller> on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
chip1: <Intel 82371AB Power management controller> port 0xe800-0xe80f at
device 4.3 on pci0
fxp0: <Intel Pro 10/100B/100+ Ethernet> port 0xb000-0xb03f mem
0xdd000000-0xdd0fffff,0xdd800000-0xdd800fff irq 9 at device 10.0 on pci0
fxp0: Ethernet address 00:90:27:76:db:53
inphy0: <i82555 10/100 media interface> on miibus0
inphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
isa0: too many dependant configs (8)
isa0: unexpected small tag 14
orm0: <Option ROMs> at iomem 0xc0000-0xc7fff,0xc8000-0xc8fff on isa0
fdc0: <NEC 72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on
isa0
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
psm0: <PS/2 Mouse> irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: model MouseMan+, device ID 0
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on
isa0
sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
sio1: type 16550A
ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold
plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0
lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
ad0: 9779MB <WDC WD102BA> [19870/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33
acd0: CDROM <MATSHITA CR-585> at ata1-master PIO3
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a


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On Sun, Aug 11, 2002 at 11:41:42AM +0930, Brian Astill wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Aug 2002 20:41, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 10, 2002 at 01:38:23AM -0400, Lord Raiden wrote:
> > > 	Hi all.  I have all 4 of the Freebsd install CD's that you can
> > > download from the website and I was wondering.  Obviously you
> > > install the OS from the first cd.  But can I somehow force the
> > > computer to install my ports from one of the CD's instead of the
> > > internet?
> >
> > Disks 3 and 4 of the 4 CD set consist of as complete a set of packages
> > as possible -- everything from the ports tree that it is legal to
> > redistribute pre-compiled.
> >
> > You should be able to use pkg_add to install by mounting the CD on,
> > say, /cdrom and setting the environment variable 'PKG_PATH' to /cdrom.
> 
> Understood.  But I want to use my FBSD CDs to upgrade (eg KDE 2.2.2 to 3).
> Pkg_update isn't explicit about what (if anything) needs to be deleted prior 
> to updating.  Can you advise (or tell me where best to look)?
> Thanks.

Essentially, before you install a later version of a package you
should delete the earlier one.  You should also work from the bottom
of the dependency tree towards the top, as otherwise you may find that
a dependency package gets installed overwriting an older
version. Unfortunately, working out the dependency order can be
tedious.  Now, that is exactly what portupgrade(1) does for
installation from ports.  Knowing how good the rest of portupgrade(1)
is, you won't be surprised to find these entries in the man page:

     -P
     --use-packages         Use packages instead of ports whenever available.
                            portupgrade searches the local directories listed
                            in PKG_PATH for each package to install or upgrade
                            the current installation with, and if none is
                            found, pkg_fetch(1) is invoked to fetch one from a
                            remote site.  If it doesn't work either, the port
                            is used.

     -PP
     --use-packages-only    Never use the port even if a package is not avail-
                            able either locally or remotely, although you
                            still have to keep your ports tree up-to-date so
                            that portupgrade can check out what the latest
                            version of each port is.

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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On 10 Aug 2002 at 18:12, Kevin Oberman boldly uttered: 

> > From: "Philip J. Koenig" <pjklist@ekahuna.com>
> > Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 10:09:34 -0700
> > Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > 
> > Every time I try to use the Fixit CD to fix a problem with a disk I 
> > run into the same problem: I can't mount the disk because the device 
> > nodes are missing (ie ad0s1a), but I can't create device nodes 
> > because /dev or /dist/dev (when booting from the fixit CD) is read-
> > only.
> 
> You can only mount the root partition on any slice under fixit. I
> thought the initial message told you about this, but I may be
> mis-remembering.
> 
> # mount /dev/ad0s1 /mnt
> 
> will mount the "a" partition at the /mnt point. This assumes that the
> root partition is the 'a' partition.


OK, so in this case is ad0s1 essentially an alias for "ad0s1a"?  If 
so, I didn't realize that and thanks for the tip. (I always thought 
ad0s1c was the equivalent to ad0s1)

What happens if one needs to mount, say, /usr?

Thx,

Phil

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hi
  I have installed FreeBSD on my comp. But when I work
on the system following messages spring up
asynchronously. Each message is preceded by date and
time
     1  upsd[226]:writeport : cannot write to
/dev/cuaa0: resource temporarily unavailable
     2  last message repeated ---- times
     3  upsd[226]:cannot put the UPS into smart mode
     4  healthd:A value of 15.50 for 12 volt with a
range of-----
     5 upsd[226]:apc_tune:negative response YY
     6 upsd[226] = lst test:,light test
 Please suggest me remedy. Also let me know how to put
GUI in action and the location and usage of LEX and
YACC or their clones    
     rgds
    mail me at abapat@comp.coep.org.in            

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On Sat, Aug 10, 2002 at 08:41:48PM -0500, Seahawk wrote:
 
> Hello, I was wonder were I should be keeping an eye on to find out when
> 4.6.2-RELEASE is released, and I was also wondering if there would be an
> ISO image for this release.  Thanks for any info.

Subscribe to freebsd-announce@freebsd.org and you will receive e-mail
notification of significant FreeBSD events, certainly including new
releases.  The Release Engineering page
(http://www.freebsd.org/releng/) is a bit coy about exactly when 4.6.2
will be out: I think the best that can be said is "As soon as
possible".  It has to be fairly soon, as the code freeze for 4.7
starts on September 1st.

This will be a full scale FreeBSD release, so there will be the 4 CD
set of iso images available from the usual sites
(http://www.freebsdmirrors.org/FBSDsites.php3), plus the release will
be available split up into packages from the 4.6.2 directory tree
created on the FreeBSD FTP mirrors.  Presumably most of the FreeBSD
resellers like http://www.daemonnews.org/,
http://www.freebsdmall.com/, http://www.freebsd-services.com/ will be
putting out CD Rom or DVD sets for sale.

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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Hi all,

Does anyone know how I can revert to pre 4.6 sendmail/FreeBSD 
functionality?  When   sendmail_enable="NO"  in rc.conf meant NO 
SENDMAIL! I know I can do sendmail_enable="NONE" but that stops any 
mail from being sent out from the localhost, and I'd rather not have 
anything listening even on the loopback interface.

More serious than this though is jail/sendmail functionality. With 
sendmail_enable="NO" in a jail, sendmail binds to the real aliased 
address and is accessible from other hosts (ie it binds to a REAL 
address rather than the loopback interface! If I do put in 
sendmail_enable="NONE" then I don't get the /etc/periodic reports 
emailed to me. 

I want back pre-4.6 where there would be no daemon listening to accept 
connections but mail could still be sent from the localhost. 

Any gurus out there know how I get it back?

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On Sat, Aug 10, 2002 at 04:05:59PM -0600, Sean LeBlanc wrote:
>Subject: mount_smbfs - no /dev/nsmb*
>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>From: Sean LeBlanc <seanleblanc@americanisp.net>
>Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 16:05:59 -0600
>
>Hi all, 
>
>Earlier in the week I asked about speeding up sharity-light, and someone
>mentioned mount_smbfs, something I wasn't even aware was stable. So off I
>went to figure it out. Since I recently upgraded to 4.6, I put the options
>in my kernel, and tried to make...it stopped with errors about
>linux_proto.h. I found a fix from someone (delete /usr/obj/, delete
>/usr/src, but saving configuration file first, then re-cvsup'ing, then it
>went okay)
>
>So the build of the kernel went off okay after that: I was able to build the
>kernel, and reboot. However, I get the no /dev/nsmb* message, and sh MAKEDEV
>nsmb|nsmb0|nsmb1 turns up nothing. What can I do here?

Did you make installworld after building and installing new kernel?

>
>TIA,
>
>-- 
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On Sun, Aug 11, 2002 at 07:16:13PM +1000, BSD Freak wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Does anyone know how I can revert to pre 4.6 sendmail/FreeBSD 
> functionality?  When   sendmail_enable="NO"  in rc.conf meant NO 
> SENDMAIL! I know I can do sendmail_enable="NONE" but that stops any 
> mail from being sent out from the localhost, and I'd rather not have 
> anything listening even on the loopback interface.
> 
> More serious than this though is jail/sendmail functionality. With 
> sendmail_enable="NO" in a jail, sendmail binds to the real aliased 
> address and is accessible from other hosts (ie it binds to a REAL 
> address rather than the loopback interface! If I do put in 
> sendmail_enable="NONE" then I don't get the /etc/periodic reports 
> emailed to me. 
> 
> I want back pre-4.6 where there would be no daemon listening to accept 
> connections but mail could still be sent from the localhost. 
> 
> Any gurus out there know how I get it back?

Read /etc/mail/README which describes two possible ways of
accomplishing this. (The second of them is the way it was done in
pre-4.6)
Reading the rc.sendmail(8) manpage might also be informative.



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Hi Volker,
   Thanks for the your thoughts and suggestions. I've not looked at the
aide docs (as suggested by Dru earlier in the post), and it looks as if
I'll only be able to find the URL for the aide docs *after* installing
the thing - not happy with that!

I'll take a look at samhain today - one thing, is it compatible with
FBSD 4.6Stable?

Stacey



On Sun, 2002-08-11 at 10:50, Volker Kindermann wrote:
> Hi Stacey,
>=20
> > I used to use tripwire, but found that it didn't *really* do what I
> > thought it would (which is provide real-time notification of intrusion
> > attempts / hacks).
>=20
> I know tripwire and I think it is not intended to do real-time monitoring=
. I don't know aide but I can imagine that it don't have real-time monitori=
ng, too. Please correct me, if I'm wrong.
>=20
> Lately I found a tool called samhain (http://la-samhna.de/samhain/) that =
is able to run as a daemon and therefore does some kind of real-time monito=
ring. Perhaps you'll give it a try.
>=20
> HTH
>  -volker
>=20
--=20
Stacey Roberts
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System has an embedded Intel fxp0 NIC, works fine.  Running 
4.6.1-RC2.

Installed a Znyx multi-port NIC (uses dc driver).  This also works 
fine, however once I bring up the dc0 interface, the fxp0 interface 
loses its IP address. (ifconfig shows it to be active, but the IP 
address/mask info goes away)

Is there something obvious I'm not doing?  For testing purposes they 
are both residing on the same segment and subnet.

Thanks,

Phil

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--- "Philip J. Koenig" <pjklist@ekahuna.com> wrote:
> System has an embedded Intel fxp0 NIC, works fine. 
> Running 
> 4.6.1-RC2.
> 
> Installed a Znyx multi-port NIC (uses dc driver). 
> This also works 
> fine, however once I bring up the dc0 interface, the
> fxp0 interface 
> loses its IP address. (ifconfig shows it to be
> active, but the IP 
> address/mask info goes away)
> 
> Is there something obvious I'm not doing?  For
> testing purposes they 
> are both residing on the same segment and subnet.
> 
That is Standard practice. 2 cards on the smame subnet
simply won't work.(Think - where would it send the
packet??) 
Try using a different subnet for the second one, to
see if it works in ifconfig. Set a second machine to
the subnet to see if you can ping. Then try for kernel
setup etc, but the on the same subnet just won't work
without special routing considerations.

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Is this what you are looking for?
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~rammer/aide/manual.html

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From: Matthew Seaman <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk>
To: Tcowen <freebsd@tcowen.com>
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On Sat, Aug 10, 2002 at 09:38:53PM -0400, Tcowen wrote:
> I have 4.1-release on a computer connected to the internet, I'd like to
> update it to the latest stable. I'm not having an easy time with cvs.
> The first step when updating is replacing everything in /usr/src/,
> correct? I can log in with cvs, but then (with working directory
> /usr/src/) do I use "cvs update -rRELENG_4" or the checkout command or
> what? and with whatever command(s) I'm supposed to use, does it replace
> the files in /usr/src/ or does it put things somewhere else by default?
> Also, if I wanted to just download everything using the ftp would I
> replace my /usr/src/ directory with everything in
> ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-stable/src/? thanks

Appendix A of the handbook is all about how to obtain FreeBSD
(http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors.html).

While it is possible to update your sources using Anonymous CVS
(Section A4), the mechanism just about everyone uses is 'cvsup'
(Section A6) --- this combines all the advantages of Anonymous CVS but
is a lot more efficient in terms of network bandwidth, and there are a
large number of cvsup servers around the world.

The quickest way to get going is to install the cvsup package from one
of the ftp sites:

    pkg_add -r cvsup

(or if your machine doesn't have X-Windows installed)

    pkg_add -r cvsup-without-gui

There are essentially 4 major collections of FreeBSD stuff you can
download via cvsup:

   i) The entire FreeBSD CVS repository.  This is probably not
      appropriate unless you are going to be doing heavyweight FreeBSD
      development, or you want to run your own private cvsup mirror to
      serve cvsup to your intranet.  In which case, see the
      net/cvsup-mirror port.

  ii) The system sources, which usually live under /usr/src.

 iii) The ports tree, which usually lives under /usr/ports

  iv) The documentation, which usually lives under /usr/doc

There are some other collections of stuff available, but those are the
most important.

Example configuration files for cvsup'ing any of these collections are
available in /usr/share/examples/cvsup (or should be --- they were
missed out of 4.6.1 release by mistake).  

To maintain an up to date source tree for 4-STABLE, you need to first
run cvsup in a mode that lets it take over "ownership" of all of the
files under /usr/src, and then set up things so you can update your
source tree easily. The cvsup FAQ at
http://www.polstra.com/projects/freeware/CVSup/faq.html has detailed
instructions.

Assuming you have the 4.1-RELEASE sources installed, and you're going
to use your local cvsup server, which is cvsup3.freebsd.org, to adopt
your current source tree into cvsup's control, you need to create a
supfile containing the following, which you will use one time only:

    *default host=cvsup3.freebsd.org
    *default base=/usr
    *default prefix=/usr
    *default release=cvs
    *default delete use-rel-suffix
    src-all tag=RELENG_4_1_0_RELEASE list=cvs:RELENG_4

Save that to a file eg. /tmp/first.supfile, and then run:

    cvsup -g -L 2 /tmp/first.supfile

That should bring your source tree up to the latest STABLE sources.

Once you've done that, for subsequent updates you can use the
/usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile.  The cheats way of doing
this is very simple.  Add the following to your /etc/make.conf:

    SUP_UPDATE=     yes
    #
    SUP=            /usr/local/bin/cvsup
    SUPFLAGS=       -g -L 2
    SUPHOST=        cvsup3.FreeBSD.org
    SUPFILE=        /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile
    #PORTSSUPFILE=   /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile
    #DOCSUPFILE=     /usr/share/examples/cvsup/doc-supfile

Then to update your sources, simply do the following:

    cd /usr/src
    make update

If you uncomment the PORTSSUPFILE and DOCSUPFILE lines as above, that
command will also update your ports and docs trees, but remember to do
the whole adoption thing for those trees first --- or simply delete
everything under /usr/ports or /usr/docs and start with a clean sheet.

	Cheers,

	Matthew

-- 
Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.                       26 The Paddocks
                                                      Savill Way
Tel: +44 1628 476614                                  Marlow
Fax: +44 0870 0522645                                 Bucks., SL7 1TH UK

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Hi,
I used to have the answer to this question somewhere, but I've lost it & =
can't=20
see anything about in the handbook, FAQ or mailing list archives anymore,=
 so=20
I'll ask here.
How do I configure X to allow me to run apps as root when I run X as my n=
ormal=20
user?
Cheers,
Ian

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Hello,
I'm experiencing very flaky (=unusable) NFS over two Via Rhine based
DLink cards connected through a cross over cable. It is either a card
or a driver issue as NFS works perfectly over the public interfaces of
the boxes (Realtek connected to a 3com Switch) so I'd be interested to
hear about other people's experience with that card/driver and NFS. If
it's really due to the Rhine chips and can't be fixed, I'll throw the
cards out, of course, but before I do that, I'd like to know whether
there might be a software solution to this...

TIA & regards,
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Hi ,

Im having trouble with my ADSL PPPoE connection

I am running 4.6-STABLE , I have dialed up using 2 iBooks and an iMac
using PPPoE , even copied /usr/src and /usr/obj , made world and installed
on a borrowed PC and copied my ppp.conf file over to it and it even
connected fine :-/ , so it cant be my ppp.conf nor my D-Link ADSL Modem ,
my Ethernet card works just fine , even swaped out just incase.


... im sort of at a loss why it is doing it ... my config and log files
are at

http://www.ugh.net.au/~joel/ppp/ppp.conf
http://www.ugh.net.au/~joel/ppp/ppp.log
http://www.ugh.net.au/~joel/ppp/rc.conf

any idears would be greatfully Apriciated

tar

Joel Cornale


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I've just had a read through the manual included in your earlier post.

Unfortunately, there's no mention of any real-time detection / reporting
functionality / config options in aide. And from the line: "After a
break-in, an administrator may begin by examinining the system using
system tools like ls, ps, netstat, and who --- the very tools most
likely to be trojaned.", I'm not sure that this is what I'm looking for
here - doesn't appear to offer any real-time detection / reporting of an
ongoing intrusion attempt

I've sent an e-mail to rammer requesting further information on aide,
which hopefully will lead to a more informed decision on aide.

Its good of you all to get back to me. At this point, I am beginning to
believe that maybe I'm thinking of *something else* here, when I say
Intrusion Detection System. Feel free to correct me if I'm heading down
the wrong search path here.

Stacey


On Sun, 2002-08-11 at 13:15, FreeBSD wrote:
> Is this what you are looking for?
> http://www.cs.tut.fi/~rammer/aide/manual.html
>=20
> Darren
>=20
>=20
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On 11 Aug 2002, Stacey Roberts wrote:

> I've just had a read through the manual included in your earlier post.
>
> Unfortunately, there's no mention of any real-time detection / reporting
> functionality / config options in aide. And from the line: "After a
> break-in, an administrator may begin by examinining the system using
> system tools like ls, ps, netstat, and who --- the very tools most
> likely to be trojaned.", I'm not sure that this is what I'm looking for
> here - doesn't appear to offer any real-time detection / reporting of an
> ongoing intrusion attempt
>
> I've sent an e-mail to rammer requesting further information on aide,
> which hopefully will lead to a more informed decision on aide.
>
> Its good of you all to get back to me. At this point, I am beginning to
> believe that maybe I'm thinking of *something else* here, when I say
> Intrusion Detection System. Feel free to correct me if I'm heading down
> the wrong search path here.


Sounds like you're thinking more along the lines of "snort" or
"portsentry".

Dru


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--- Joel <joel@starbug.ugh.net.au> wrote:
> 
> Hi ,
> 
> Im having trouble with my ADSL PPPoE connection
> 
> I am running 4.6-STABLE , I have dialed up using 2
> iBooks and an iMac
> using PPPoE , even copied /usr/src and /usr/obj ,
> made world and installed
> on a borrowed PC and copied my ppp.conf file over to
> it and it even
> connected fine :-/ , so it cant be my ppp.conf nor
> my D-Link ADSL Modem ,
> my Ethernet card works just fine , even swaped out
> just incase.
> 
I researched PPPoe for telstra's adsl in the belief
that I'd need it, but then they got a 4-port adsl
modem that does the pppoe itself. It also does nat,
dhcp+dns, so we left it at that. If you have a 4-port,
there's nothing for PPPoe to connect to, but you'd
already have worked that out.
Telstra's implementation of PPPoE is fussy and
required a modification for before RELEASE_4.2. Very
complete details are available at
http://logicsquad.net/freebsd/PPPoE-how-to.html,
although I never had to use them, as mentioned
earlier.
Best of luck,
Robert Backhaus

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Hi,

Running 4.5-RELEASE with XFree86 3.3.6,

i cannot compile the xforms-1.0 port:

(...)
making all in ./gl...
rm -f glcanvas.o unshared/glcanvas.o
cc -c   -I../exports/include              -I../lib
-I../lib/private                -I.   -I/usr/local/include
-I/usr/X11R6/include   -DCSRG_BASED  -DMAKING_FORMS
-DHAVE_STRERROR -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO   -g -O   glcanvas.c -o
unshared/glcanvas.o
glcanvas.c:47: GL/glx.h: No such file or directory
glcanvas.c:48: GL/gl.h: No such file or directory
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/xforms/work/xforms-1.0RC4/gl.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/xforms/work/xforms-1.0RC4.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/xforms.
--->  Installing the new version via the port
===>  Building for xforms-1.0_1,1
making all in ./lib/include...
making all in ./lib...
making all in ./image...
making all in ./gl...
rm -f glcanvas.o unshared/glcanvas.o
cc -c   -I../exports/include              -I../lib
-I../lib/private                -I.   -I/usr/local/include
-I/usr/X11R6/include   -DCSRG_BASED  -DMAKING_FORMS
-DHAVE_STRERROR -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO   -g -O   glcanvas.c -o
unshared/glcanvas.o
glcanvas.c:47: GL/glx.h: No such file or directory
glcanvas.c:48: GL/gl.h: No such file or directory
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/xforms/work/xforms-1.0RC4/gl.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/xforms/work/xforms-1.0RC4.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/xforms.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/xforms.
** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa
/tmp/portinstall78107.3 make reinstall
(...)


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On Sunday 11 August 2002 08:28 am, Ian Moore wrote:
| Hi,
| I used to have the answer to this question somewhere, but I've lost it &
| can't see anything about in the handbook, FAQ or mailing list archives
| anymore, so I'll ask here.
| How do I configure X to allow me to run apps as root when I run X as my
| normal user?

xhost +root

should do it.

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On Sun, Aug 11, 2002 at 09:58:27PM +0930, Ian Moore wrote:

> How do I configure X to allow me to run apps as root when I run X as
> my normal user?

    xhost +local:

will allow any user on your local machine access to your X display.

For more fine grained control you can copy the authorization entry for
your display from your own .Xauthority file to root's:

   su root
   xauth -f ~${LOGNAME}/.Xauthority extract - $DISPLAY | xauth merge -

	Cheers,

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On Sunday 11 August 2002 09:44 am, Юрий wrote:
| Guys! Please help!!
| Well, I got some problem.
| I think I've looked everithing about kernels in internet but I didn't
| found anythng about FreeBSD kernel.
| I saw "4.4 BSD design and implementation" book but I can't afford it (
| 120$ ).
| Please, give me any links or documents about FreeBSD kernel ( not about
| parts but about all, I mean how it works and all).
| Mail me : burn2002@inbox.ru

You have full access to the source itself.  This is the truly definitive 
guide.

Also, I just went to Google and did  "FreeBSD kernel design" as a search and 
it found lots of stuff, including this:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/design-44bsd/

So that might save you $120 right there.


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Hello people,

I started playing around with freebsd a couple o weeks
ago and I am missing the large resolution framebuffer
console that several linux distributions have. Since
an X server may crash I need to run long jobs in the
console and in linux I can have one at 1024x768.
I am wondering if something similar is/will be
possible in freebsd.

Dimitris

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I am have tried tripwire, aide, integret, and a few others but the
benifits of samhain are fantastic. It doesn't put a load on my
Pentium/133, and it does real time fantastic. It can check my setup
every 20-30 minutes.

Benifits
- md5's it's on binary, and it checks it when it starts and stops
- can log to a central logging server
- md5's logs and emails
- does real time suid checks
- checks for logins and multiple logins
- on linux it can check for kernel module rootkits

and many more

The only problem I have found with samhain is the logging. Since
every log entry is md5'ed, the output is very weird. Also, there is
not a daily email like aide and tripwire sends, it's real time remember.



On 11 Aug 2002, Stacey Roberts wrote:

> Hi Volker,
>    Thanks for the your thoughts and suggestions. I've not looked at the
> aide docs (as suggested by Dru earlier in the post), and it looks as if
> I'll only be able to find the URL for the aide docs *after* installing
> the thing - not happy with that!
>
> I'll take a look at samhain today - one thing, is it compatible with
> FBSD 4.6Stable?
>
> Stacey
>
>
>
> On Sun, 2002-08-11 at 10:50, Volker Kindermann wrote:
> > Hi Stacey,
> >
> > > I used to use tripwire, but found that it didn't *really* do what I
> > > thought it would (which is provide real-time notification of intrusion
> > > attempts / hacks).
> >
> > I know tripwire and I think it is not intended to do real-time monitoring. I don't know aide but I can imagine that it don't have real-time monitoring, too. Please correct me, if I'm wrong.
> >
> > Lately I found a tool called samhain (http://la-samhna.de/samhain/) that is able to run as a daemon and therefore does some kind of real-time monitoring. Perhaps you'll give it a try.
> >
> > HTH
> >  -volker
> >
> --
> Stacey Roberts
> B.Sc (HONS) Computer Science
>

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Does anyone know how I can list the files within a filesystem by inode 
number?  i.e. for each inode within a file system, print it's
filenames(s).  And I do mean filename(s) because each inode can have
more than one link.

I can write a perl script to do a find, build a hash, and print this
info out, but surely, there must be a more efficient way.  

For every given inode, I want to know what the filename(s) are.
Unfortunatly, ls doesn't provide this info.

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There was a bit of interest in the update script for FreeBSD that I've
been working on so I just wanted to make a quick post about some
changes.

The script can now do a partial or full cvsup of the ports and core
source files. You can do a custom kernel compile, with or without
installing a GENERIC kernel first. The interface and help files have
been improved (but all suggestions are welcome). The script has also
been cleaned up a bit.

There is now a work around for 4.6-RELEASE users as the cvsup example
files where accidently left out of 4.6-RELEASE. (I did not know about
this error before)

A direct download link is here:
http://osdn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/lvl/update.tar.gz

More info here:
http://lvl.sourceforge.net/update.sh

Thats all, thanks.


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8/11/2002 3:51:35 AM, "Chris Richards" <chrisric@magna.com.au> 
wrote:

>Hi Everyone,
>
>I have been trying to upgrade to 4.6-STABLE from 4.6-RELEASE for 3 
days
>now..... No matter what I try I get the below errors on boot.
>
>Steps I have taken:
>
>CVSuped my full src (10/08/02)
>make -j 4 buildworld
>make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL
>make installkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL
>make installworld
>backup /etc
>run mergemaster
>rebuild /dev
>rebuild sysinstall
>
>I get no errors what so ever from all the above, only when I reboot and
>it tries to boot on the new kernel do I have issues. I even tried
>building the GENERIC kernel and it had the same problem.
>
>If you have any ideas as to what might be happening please help me 
out
>:) Also if you require more info just shoot me an email - I have
>included a "dmesg" at the bottom just to give an overview of my system.
>
>Thanks for reading!
>
>Cheers,
>Chris
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
><snip>
>ad0: timeout waiting for interrupt
>ad0: timeout waiting for interrupt
>ad0: enabling readahead cache failed
>ad0: timeout waiting for interrupt
>ad0: enabling write cache failed
>ad0: READ command timeout tag=0, serv=0 - resetting
>ata0: resetting devices .. done.
>ad0: 9779MB <WDC WD102BA> [19870/16/63] at ata0-master 
UDMA33
>ad0: READ command timeout tag=0, serv=0 - resetting
>ata0: resetting devices .. done.
>acd0: MODE_SENSE_BIG command timeout - resetting
>ata1: resetting devices .. done.
[snip]

Have you tried the steps listed on the FreeBSD web site at the link for 
4.6 release errata?  If not, try them and see if that works.

Jud




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here are a few links that i've found to be enlightening:

http://www.polstra.com/projects/freeware/CVSup/
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html
http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=818
http://www.samag.com/documents/s=1174/sam9909d/9909d.htm
http://www.nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk/FreeBSD/make-world/make-world.html

there was also a recent thread (aug 9-10) on questions and newbies, 
entitled "Using CVSup" that contains good explanations of the different 
branches.

ken

Charles Pelletier wrote:
> hey all,
> is there a good, very basic, page anywhere for using cvsup? the info on
> freebsd.org is for people a bit more experienced with cvs than am i.
> 
> --charlie pelletier
> --litmus(mp3.com/litmus)
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On Sun, Aug 11, 2002 at 04:24:59PM +0200, Michael Grant wrote:
> Does anyone know how I can list the files within a filesystem by inode 
> number?  i.e. for each inode within a file system, print it's
> filenames(s).  And I do mean filename(s) because each inode can have
> more than one link.
> 
> I can write a perl script to do a find, build a hash, and print this
> info out, but surely, there must be a more efficient way.  
> 
> For every given inode, I want to know what the filename(s) are.
> Unfortunatly, ls doesn't provide this info.

Unfortunately I don't think there is any efficient way to do this.
An inode does not contain information on which filenames point to it.
This means that the only way is to search through the entire filesystem
and for each file check if it is a link to the desired inode.
The only optimization one can do is that since an inode does know the
number hardlinks to it that exists, one can stop once that number has
been found.



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On Sun, Aug 11, 2002 at 02:26:21PM +0200, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
> Hello,
> I'm experiencing very flaky (=unusable) NFS over two Via Rhine based
> DLink cards connected through a cross over cable. It is either a card
> or a driver issue as NFS works perfectly over the public interfaces of
> the boxes (Realtek connected to a 3com Switch) so I'd be interested to
> hear about other people's experience with that card/driver and NFS. If
> it's really due to the Rhine chips and can't be fixed, I'll throw the
> cards out, of course, but before I do that, I'd like to know whether
> there might be a software solution to this...

Same problem here when using nfs or large ftp xfers. I suspect it is
a driver issue as the cards work fine under Win32. As a workaround I
mount nfs with the "-r=1024" switch, see "man mount_nfs". This is
stable enough for running "make installworld" via nfs and the like
here.

As a solution I placed the vr card on the public interface
(less throughput) with the intention of junking the vr cards later.

Do tell if you come up with something more elegant.

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Hi

I was wondering if freebsd was working on this kind of CPU.

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Hi Stacey,

> Its good of you all to get back to me. At this point, I am beginning to
> believe that maybe I'm thinking of *something else* here, when I say
> Intrusion Detection System.

well, it depends, as so often. There are two groups of Intrusion Detection Systems, network-based and host-based.

Tools like tripwire or aide are of the second group, but they specialize in file integrity checking. They are not the tools that will report you an ongoing attack but after that, they will help to understand the way that attack worked and they will hopefully save you time in rebuilding the system.

The only free host-based intrusion detection system that I know for unixlike computers that will alert you of ongoing attacks is hostsentry (www.psionic.com).

Realtime attack alerting is more the job of the network-based systems as Dru wrote you (e.g. snort).

 -volker


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How Can ThisBe wrote:

> There was a bit of interest in the update script for FreeBSD that I've
> been working on so I just wanted to make a quick post about some
> changes.
> 
> The script can now do a partial or full cvsup of the ports and core
> source files. You can do a custom kernel compile, with or without
> installing a GENERIC kernel first. The interface and help files have
> been improved (but all suggestions are welcome). The script has also
> been cleaned up a bit.
> 
> There is now a work around for 4.6-RELEASE users as the cvsup example
> files where accidently left out of 4.6-RELEASE. (I did not know about
> this error before)
> 
> A direct download link is here:
> http://osdn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/lvl/update.tar.gz
> 
> More info here:
> http://lvl.sourceforge.net/update.sh
> 


The last link is a dead.

Kent


> Thats all, thanks.
> 
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PPPD doesn't work as well. What does "LCP timeout error" mean? That's 
why PPPD dies (and I don't know why PPP dies, but that's another 
story).
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>From: Kent Stewart <kstewart@owt.com>
>Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 10:05:26 -0700
>
>How Can ThisBe wrote:
<snip>>>
>>More info here:
>>http://lvl.sourceforge.net/update.sh
>
>
>The last link is a dead.
>
>Kent
>

Its a typo on my side (sorry), should have been:
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On Sun, Aug 11, 2002 at 06:03:07PM +0200, Mathieu Arnold wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I was wondering if freebsd was working on this kind of CPU.

Apparently it works fine on it, I've not got one myself though

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Hello Robin,

Sunday, August 11, 2002, 5:54:10 PM, you wrote:
> Same problem here when using nfs or large ftp xfers. I suspect it is
> a driver issue as the cards work fine under Win32. As a workaround I
> mount nfs with the "-r=1024" switch, see "man mount_nfs". This is
> stable enough for running "make installworld" via nfs and the like
> here.

> As a solution I placed the vr card on the public interface
> (less throughput) with the intention of junking the vr cards later.

> Do tell if you come up with something more elegant.

Well, if the cards work in Windows (dunno, couldn't be bothered to try
them there ;-) it sure as hell is a driver issue.
I found them on a pile of unused hardware and figured
they'd be ideal to be used for internal LAN, turns out they aren't.

I'll just take them out, then (maybe I'll install them into a Win box
and rip the Realteks from it).

On another note: does anybody know whether Gigabit Ethernet can be
done with cross over cabling or only with switches (which is what I
fear to be the case)? If this were the case, I'd seriously consider to
get the el cheapo Intel GigE adaptors (less than 60$ now).





Best regards,
 Gabriel

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Dear Sirs,

it is said in CVS documentation that CVS can use either krb4 or krb5.
I've MIT Krb5 (from ports) installed. How should I "buildworld" in order
to CVS can use Krb5 ???

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Tried to install gnome using pkg_add sometime yesterday.  pkg-add
couldn't find it (please see attachment "gnome.prob").

Then began a real nightmare  ---  I tried to install it from the ports
section.  After just over three hours, the installation had gobbled up
some 280 Mb of disk space, so I stopped it, cleaned up what I could, and
went to bed.  This morning I restarted it (only about 260 Mb available
this time).  After just about precisely three hours the installation
aborted because it was "out of disk space."  (please see attachment
"ROCKSOLIDDISKMANAGEMENT").

Installation requires more that six (6) hours and more that 500 Mb of
disk space?  I've got a very fast cable connection, a Pentium II with
192 Mb RAM, and a SCSI drive.

Needless to say, I'll forget about gnome.  But how about putting a
warning statement in /usr/ports/x11/gnome/pkg_comment in the future.
Really.

Pb

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Tried to install gnome using pkg_add sometime yesterday.&nbsp; pkg-add
couldn't find it (please see attachment "gnome.prob").
<p>Then began a real nightmare&nbsp; ---&nbsp; I tried to install it from
the ports section.&nbsp; After just over three hours, the installation
had gobbled up some 280 Mb of disk space, so I stopped it, cleaned up what
I could, and went to bed.&nbsp; This morning I restarted it (only about
260 Mb available this time).&nbsp; After just about precisely three hours
the installation aborted because it was "out of disk space."&nbsp; (please
see attachment "ROCKSOLIDDISKMANAGEMENT").
<p>Installation requires more that six (6) hours and more that 500 Mb of
disk space?&nbsp; I've got a very fast cable connection, a Pentium II with
192 Mb RAM, and a SCSI drive.
<p>Needless to say, I'll forget about gnome.&nbsp; But how about putting
a warning statement in /usr/ports/x11/gnome/pkg_comment in the future.&nbsp;
Really.
<p>Pb
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Script started on Sat Aug 10 22:39:56 2002
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How does this happen? (Please see attachment).  It happened a couple of
weeks ago, too, and after cleaning up what I could, I've had some
strange little problems running various applications since then.  Also
there has been a change in dmesg:  duing the final boot section, a
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How does this happen? (Please see attachment).&nbsp; It happened a couple
of weeks ago, too, and after cleaning up what I could, I've had some strange
little problems running various applications since then.&nbsp; Also there
has been a change in dmesg:&nbsp; duing the final boot section, a bright
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In the last episode (Aug 11), Michael Grant said:
> Does anyone know how I can list the files within a filesystem by
> inode number?  i.e. for each inode within a file system, print it's
> filenames(s).  And I do mean filename(s) because each inode can have
> more than one link.
> 
> I can write a perl script to do a find, build a hash, and print this
> info out, but surely, there must be a more efficient way.
> 
> For every given inode, I want to know what the filename(s) are.
> Unfortunatly, ls doesn't provide this info.

"find / -ls | sort -n"

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Hi Randy,
   Great to hear those comments about Sanhain. I take it you rate this
above the others mentioned in this thread, then.

I was thinking of going with something along the line of portsentry for
the network port monitoring) as well as something along the lines of
(what I now believe) samhain.

Did the install / config go well? Are there any gotcha's for FreeBSD 4.6
Stable that I should be aware of? I only ask because samhain is *not*
mentioned in /usr/port/security

Stacey

On Sun, 2002-08-11 at 15:25, Randy Belk wrote:
> I am have tried tripwire, aide, integret, and a few others but the
> benifits of samhain are fantastic. It doesn't put a load on my
> Pentium/133, and it does real time fantastic. It can check my setup
> every 20-30 minutes.
>=20
> Benifits
> - md5's it's on binary, and it checks it when it starts and stops
> - can log to a central logging server
> - md5's logs and emails
> - does real time suid checks
> - checks for logins and multiple logins
> - on linux it can check for kernel module rootkits
>=20
> and many more
>=20
> The only problem I have found with samhain is the logging. Since
> every log entry is md5'ed, the output is very weird. Also, there is
> not a daily email like aide and tripwire sends, it's real time remember.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On 11 Aug 2002, Stacey Roberts wrote:
>=20
> > Hi Volker,
> >    Thanks for the your thoughts and suggestions. I've not looked at the
> > aide docs (as suggested by Dru earlier in the post), and it looks as if
> > I'll only be able to find the URL for the aide docs *after* installing
> > the thing - not happy with that!
> >
> > I'll take a look at samhain today - one thing, is it compatible with
> > FBSD 4.6Stable?
> >
> > Stacey
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 2002-08-11 at 10:50, Volker Kindermann wrote:
> > > Hi Stacey,
> > >
> > > > I used to use tripwire, but found that it didn't *really* do what I
> > > > thought it would (which is provide real-time notification of intrus=
ion
> > > > attempts / hacks).
> > >
> > > I know tripwire and I think it is not intended to do real-time monito=
ring. I don't know aide but I can imagine that it don't have real-time moni=
toring, too. Please correct me, if I'm wrong.
> > >
> > > Lately I found a tool called samhain (http://la-samhna.de/samhain/) t=
hat is able to run as a daemon and therefore does some kind of real-time mo=
nitoring. Perhaps you'll give it a try.
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >  -volker
> > >
> > --
> > Stacey Roberts
> > B.Sc (HONS) Computer Science
> >
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On Sunday, August 11, 2002, at 10:31 , Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:

> On another note: does anybody know whether Gigabit Ethernet can be
> done with cross over cabling or only with switches (which is what I
> fear to be the case)? If this were the case, I'd seriously consider to
> get the el cheapo Intel GigE adaptors (less than 60$ now).

Cross-over works fine.  In fact, with a lot of GigE cards, they 
autodetect the connection type and you can use a straight-through 
cable.  I have that configuration running FreeBSD to Windows XP now, 
waiting for gig switches to get cheap.  (Netgear GS104 looks like the 
first of the cheaper ones, still needs to drop by 50%.)

KeS


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Hello

I am running FreeBSD 4.6 release.  Drives are:

ad0 - WD 40GB UDMA100  #at ata0
acd0 - CD-RW (TDK, new 40x burner)  #at ata1 master
acd1 - DVD-ROM (Creative 5x) # at ata1 slave

The HDD (since it is ATA100 compliant, and the only device on the bus)  is 
running UDMA100 no problem.  I would like to playback DVDs, etc. and I've 
tried putting the following entry in sysctl.conf:

hw.ata.atapi_dma=1

however, the atapi drives still show PIO4 mode.  I read through LINT, as 
well, and did find any help with this problem.  Can anyone offer some advice, 
or point me to the proper docs?  Thank you.

Please cc to me, as I am not subscribed at the time...

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Joshua Lokken wrote:

> Hello
> 
> I am running FreeBSD 4.6 release.  Drives are:
> 
> ad0 - WD 40GB UDMA100  #at ata0
> acd0 - CD-RW (TDK, new 40x burner)  #at ata1 master
> acd1 - DVD-ROM (Creative 5x) # at ata1 slave
> 
> The HDD (since it is ATA100 compliant, and the only device on the bus)  is 
> running UDMA100 no problem.  I would like to playback DVDs, etc. and I've 
> tried putting the following entry in sysctl.conf:
> 
> hw.ata.atapi_dma=1
> 
> however, the atapi drives still show PIO4 mode.  I read through LINT, as 
> well, and did find any help with this problem.  Can anyone offer some advice, 
> or point me to the proper docs?  Thank you.


I think it is in the wrong place. I have

loader.conf:hw.ata.atapi_dma="1"

and my dvd shows up

acd0: DVD-ROM <ATAPI DVD-ROM 16X Maximum> at ata1-master UDMA66

Kent


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> Please cc to me, as I am not subscribed at the time...
> 
> Joshua Lokken
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> From:          Joshua Lokken <joloxbox@attbi.com>
> Subject:       failure to enable atapi dma
> Date:          Sun, 11 Aug 2002 11:41:16 -0700

> The HDD (since it is ATA100 compliant, and the only device on the bus)  is 
> running UDMA100 no problem.  I would like to playback DVDs, etc. and I've 
> tried putting the following entry in sysctl.conf:
> 
> hw.ata.atapi_dma=1
> 
> however, the atapi drives still show PIO4 mode.  

Try putting it in /boot/loader.conf instead. This is a "read only" 
sysctl so it needs to be set before loading the kernel (if my 
memories from lurking on this list are correct).

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On Sun, 11 Aug 2002 10:54:10 -0500
"Robin Damm" <robin@damm.ca> wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 11, 2002 at 02:26:21PM +0200, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I'm experiencing very flaky (=unusable) NFS over two Via Rhine based
> > DLink cards connected through a cross over cable. It is either a card
> > or a driver issue as NFS works perfectly over the public interfaces of
> > the boxes (Realtek connected to a 3com Switch) so I'd be interested to
> > hear about other people's experience with that card/driver and NFS. If
> > it's really due to the Rhine chips and can't be fixed, I'll throw the
> > cards out, of course, but before I do that, I'd like to know whether
> > there might be a software solution to this...
> 
> Same problem here when using nfs or large ftp xfers. I suspect it is
> a driver issue as the cards work fine under Win32. As a workaround I
> mount nfs with the "-r=1024" switch, see "man mount_nfs". This is
> stable enough for running "make installworld" via nfs and the like
> here.
> 
> As a solution I placed the vr card on the public interface
> (less throughput) with the intention of junking the vr cards later.
> 
> Do tell if you come up with something more elegant.

	I just got two DLink DFE-530TX that use the vr driver
	on -STABLE sup'ed Aug 6.  I have been doing installworld
	and portupgrade on them with no problem.  I do have a
	switchm though.

---
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Hello,
I've just installed my first FreeBSD box, using 4.6, and I am very pleased 
with it. I have been running it headless, but the only thing I really did 
to make it headless was to remove the keyboard and monitor.

I looked through the handbook to see what it had to say about running 
headless servers, but I cannot find anything specifically related to it. Is 
there a document anywhere that gives a good overview of running and 
maintaining a headless FreeBSD server? Other than rerouting the console to 
the serial port is there really anything else to do?

Thanks,
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On Sun, Aug 11, 2002 at 02:30:09PM -0500, Fox wrote:
> I looked through the handbook to see what it had to say about running 
> headless servers, but I cannot find anything specifically related to it. Is 
> there a document anywhere that gives a good overview of running and 
> maintaining a headless FreeBSD server? Other than rerouting the console to 
> the serial port is there really anything else to do?

The handbook has a section on setting up serial consoles:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialconsole-setup.html

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On 11 Aug 2002 at 5:12, robert Backhaus boldly uttered: 

> --- "Philip J. Koenig" <pjklist@ekahuna.com> wrote:
> > System has an embedded Intel fxp0 NIC, works fine. 
> > Running 
> > 4.6.1-RC2.
> > 
> > Installed a Znyx multi-port NIC (uses dc driver). 
> > This also works fine, however once I bring up the dc0 interface, the
> > fxp0 interface loses its IP address. (ifconfig shows it to be
> > active, but the IP address/mask info goes away)
> > 
> > Is there something obvious I'm not doing?  For testing purposes 
> > they are both residing on the same segment and subnet.


> That is Standard practice. 2 cards on the smame subnet
> simply won't work.(Think - where would it send the
> packet??) 


Well I was thinking that various daemons have configuration
options re: which interface to listen on etc, but I suppose
that doesn't work for every other net utility that comes 
with the base system.  I suppose one just uses aliases if one
desires multiple IP's per subnet.

What I'm curious about is how you accomplish "NIC teaming" (a
feature of the Znyx adapters) if you can't do this.  I guess 
their driver solves that problem. 


> Try using a different subnet for the second one, to
> see if it works in ifconfig. Set a second machine to
> the subnet to see if you can ping. Then try for kernel
> setup etc, but the on the same subnet just won't work
> without special routing considerations.


OK that seems to work, thanks.  Now if I could only figure out how to 
print the entire routing table -- any way to do that without entering 
in specific destination networks multiple times with the "route get" 
command?

With Windoze, there is a "route print" command, in Linux just typing 
"route" with no arguments shows this.  How do I do it in FreeBSD?

TIA,

Phil


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How to get rid of:

Destination   Gateway        Flags Refs   Use  Netif Expire
64&0x7f000001 255.255.255.0  UGSc    11   166    dc0

??

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In the last episode (Aug 11), Philip J. Koenig said:
> OK that seems to work, thanks.  Now if I could only figure out how to 
> print the entire routing table -- any way to do that without entering 
> in specific destination networks multiple times with the "route get" 
> command?
> 
> With Windoze, there is a "route print" command, in Linux just typing 
> "route" with no arguments shows this.  How do I do it in FreeBSD?

That's nonstandard usage.  Try "netstat -r" (which works on everything
except Windows).

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On 11 Aug 2002 at 15:31, Dan Nelson boldly uttered: 

> In the last episode (Aug 11), Philip J. Koenig said:
> > OK that seems to work, thanks.  Now if I could only figure out how to 
> > print the entire routing table -- any way to do that without entering 
> > in specific destination networks multiple times with the "route get" 
> > command?
> > 
> > With Windoze, there is a "route print" command, in Linux just typing 
> > "route" with no arguments shows this.  How do I do it in FreeBSD?
> 
> That's nonstandard usage.  Try "netstat -r" (which works on everything
> except Windows).


Thanks muchly, I forgot about netstat.

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Len Conrad wrote:
> How to get rid of:
> 
> Destination   Gateway        Flags Refs   Use  Netif Expire
> 64&0x7f000001 255.255.255.0  UGSc    11   166    dc0
> 
> ??
> 
> tia
> Len
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Hello !

I have damadged my boot loader in MBR and I have repaired it with
handbook manuals. Since then it starts only FreeBSD. How can I set boot
loader, that it checks if there are any other partitions on disk or
other disks, like it do by default ?

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> From: "Philip J. Koenig" <pjklist@ekahuna.com>
> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 02:00:26 -0700
> 
> 
> On 10 Aug 2002 at 18:12, Kevin Oberman boldly uttered: 
> 
> > > From: "Philip J. Koenig" <pjklist@ekahuna.com>
> > > Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 10:09:34 -0700
> > > Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > > 
> > > Every time I try to use the Fixit CD to fix a problem with a disk I 
> > > run into the same problem: I can't mount the disk because the device 
> > > nodes are missing (ie ad0s1a), but I can't create device nodes 
> > > because /dev or /dist/dev (when booting from the fixit CD) is read-
> > > only.
> > 
> > You can only mount the root partition on any slice under fixit. I
> > thought the initial message told you about this, but I may be
> > mis-remembering.
> > 
> > # mount /dev/ad0s1 /mnt
> > 
> > will mount the "a" partition at the /mnt point. This assumes that the
> > root partition is the 'a' partition.
> 
> 
> OK, so in this case is ad0s1 essentially an alias for "ad0s1a"?  If 
> so, I didn't realize that and thanks for the tip. (I always thought 
> ad0s1c was the equivalent to ad0s1)

It is. The magic is found in the output from disklabel. Partitions 'a'
and 'c' both start at the beginning of the disk. So mounting the disk
(with no partition letter) is going to mount the partition at the
beginning of the disk and that is effectively 'a' (and, often
uselessly, 'c').

The bottom line is that mounting the device without any letter will
give access to the root partition.

> What happens if one needs to mount, say, /usr?

As far as I know, you can't. The theory is that you use fixit only
when the system is unable to boot which only requires the root
partition. Once you get root fixed, you can boot it to single user and
fix something bad on another partition.

R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
E-mail: oberman@es.net			Phone: +1 510 486-8634

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>man route?

of course, I have been there, I have been to the handbook, I've been to 
google/bsd, and my own -question -net -isp archives, and can't find the answer.

What does you "man route" say about trashing trashy entries?

mx3# route delete "64\&0x7f000001"
route: bad address: 64\&0x7f000001

mx3# route delete '64\&0x7f000001'
route: bad address: 64\&0x7f000001

mx3# route delete `64\&0x7f000001`
64&0x7f000001: Command not found.
route: writing to routing socket: Invalid argument
delete net : Invalid argument

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Fox wrote to freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG:

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> Hello,
>
> I've just installed my first FreeBSD box, using 4.6, and I am very
> pleased with it. I have been running it headless, but the only thing
> I really did to make it headless was to remove the keyboard and
> monitor.

That works :-)  Some BIOSs refuse to boot if a keyboard is not present
(remember all the "No keyboard detected. Press <F1> to continue."
jokes?), but often there is a setting to ignore/turn off that warning.
Check that on new hardware before you disconnect everything.

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servers in someone else's data centre. Two serial ports on each allows
you to use one to access the other if a NIC goes down. Just make sure
you test your configuration thoroughly before shipping your servers
across the continent. :-)

With newer systems that have USB ports, though, I just use a rolling
utility cart (picked up for $12 at the liquidation store next door),
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mounted high in the 7' racks), and a USB keyboard. The whole setup
cost under $200, and easily scales to hundreds of servers. :-)

- Ryan

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