From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Aug 7 06:02:27 1995 Return-Path: chat-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA02364 for chat-outgoing; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 06:02:27 -0700 Received: from aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw ([140.109.40.248]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA02328 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 06:01:50 -0700 Received: (from taob@localhost) by aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA00851; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 20:55:29 +0800 Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 20:55:28 +0800 (CST) From: Brian Tao To: AAU System Operator cc: FREEBSD-CHAT-L Subject: Re: Eureka!.... thanks to you all In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: chat-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 2 Aug 1995, AAU System Operator wrote: > > My good friend in South Africa, Mike Lawrie, once told me when my employer > was considering networking options, platforms and such: > > "When it comes to unix, don't go for the commercial stuff, go for the > free stuff. And DON'T equate the word "free" with inferior. You are > a thousand times more likely to receive better support from the free > folks on the net than from any commercial vendors". Amen, brother! :) > You won me. Count me among your friends in Ghana and Africa. What language is spoken in Ghana (if not English)? Perhaps we could add its native language to the next version of the installer. :) From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Aug 7 07:59:18 1995 Return-Path: chat-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id HAA07390 for chat-outgoing; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 07:59:18 -0700 Received: from chrome.onramp.net (chrome.onramp.net [199.1.166.202]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA07365 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 07:59:08 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chrome.onramp.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA05760; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 09:58:16 -0500 Message-Id: <199508071458.JAA05760@chrome.onramp.net> X-Authentication-Warning: chrome.onramp.net: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Brian Tao cc: serges@umr.edu, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.0.5 Eager to go into swap In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 07 Aug 1995 20:41:25 +0800." Reply-To: jdl@chromatic.com Clarity-Index: null Threat-Level: none Software-Engineering-Dead-Seriousness: There's no excuse for unreadable code. Net-thought: If you meet the Buddha on the net, put him in your Kill file. Date: Mon, 07 Aug 1995 09:58:15 -0500 From: Jon Loeliger Sender: chat-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Apparently, Brian Tao scribbled: > ... > swap until I hit the Sandra Bullock home page with its thousand-and- > one inline images that pushed Netscape over 15 megs of core and > exhausted the swap. Hey! You're not allowed to make references like that without supplying a URL! (And don't tell me IP address 35.20.345.200...:-) jdl From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Aug 9 19:01:09 1995 Return-Path: chat-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id TAA10081 for chat-outgoing; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 19:01:09 -0700 Received: from aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw ([140.109.40.248]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA10075 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 19:01:04 -0700 Received: (from taob@localhost) by aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA05952; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 10:00:54 +0800 Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 10:00:53 +0800 (CST) From: Brian Tao To: FREEBSD-CHAT-L Subject: Promoting FreeBSD Web servers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: chat-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk There is a thread on the Apache mailing list about promoting sites that used the Apache HTTP server. A contest of sorts was commenced, asking for submissions of graphic art indicating that the server was using the Apache software. I thought this would be a nice idea for FreeBSD servers as well. The only problem is the copyright on the BSD Daemon. Are we allowed to use it if no profit is gained from it, and if the copyright is clearly displayed? I used the rendition of the Daemon from the cover of the 2.0.5 CD-ROM in my icon. http://aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw/ . -- Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Aug 9 19:03:52 1995 Return-Path: chat-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id TAA10204 for chat-outgoing; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 19:03:52 -0700 Received: from aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw ([140.109.40.248]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA10183 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 19:03:22 -0700 Received: (from taob@localhost) by aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA05962; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 10:02:24 +0800 Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 10:02:23 +0800 (CST) From: Brian Tao To: jdl@chromatic.com cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 2.0.5 Eager to go into swap In-Reply-To: <199508071458.JAA05760@chrome.onramp.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: chat-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 7 Aug 1995, Jon Loeliger wrote: > > > swap until I hit the Sandra Bullock home page with its thousand-and- > > one inline images that pushed Netscape over 15 megs of core and > > exhausted the swap. > > Hey! You're not allowed to make references like that without > supplying a URL! (And don't tell me IP address 35.20.345.200...:-) I was waiting for this response.... ;-) http://yallara.cs.rmit.edu.au/~s9506564/sandra.html Enjoy, Sandra fans everywhere. :) -- Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Aug 10 01:27:05 1995 Return-Path: chat-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id BAA24355 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 01:27:05 -0700 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA24349 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 01:27:01 -0700 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de with SMTP (5.67b+/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA02688; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 10:23:03 +0200 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA21229 for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 09:22:10 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA03384 for freebsd-chat@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 09:02:34 +0200 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199508100702.JAA03384@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Promoting FreeBSD Web servers To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 09:02:33 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Brian Tao" at Aug 10, 95 10:00:53 am Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 1268 Sender: chat-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk As Brian Tao wrote: > > I thought this would be a nice idea for FreeBSD servers as well. > The only problem is the copyright on the BSD Daemon. Are we allowed > to use it if no profit is gained from it, and if the copyright is > clearly displayed? I used the rendition of the Daemon from the cover > of the 2.0.5 CD-ROM in my icon. http://aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw/ . I believe so. For non-commercial purposes, Kirk doesn't mind, as long as it's used in a ``morally good'' way (e.g. the daemon smashing a Window(s) would violate the copyright). Below is Kirk's answer when i was going to include the daemon picture in xlockmore: Joerg, i believe that including the copyright message "BSD Daemon Copyright 1988 by Marshall Kirk McKusick. All Rights Reserved" in the bitmap files, the modified man page for xlock and the README.FreeBSD would be sufficient but i am sending a copy of this to Kirk for approval. jmb Yes, that would be sufficient. Please send me a copy of the bitmap file (preferably in GIF format) for my archives. ~Kirk -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Aug 10 06:17:54 1995 Return-Path: chat-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA03307 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 06:17:54 -0700 Received: from aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw ([140.109.40.248]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA03295 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 06:17:35 -0700 Received: (from taob@localhost) by aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw (8.6.11/8.6.9) id VAA07181; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 21:16:33 +0800 Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 21:16:30 +0800 (CST) From: Brian Tao To: FREEBSD-CHAT-L cc: dillon@best.com, bugs@win.net Subject: FreeBSD in inet-access FAQ Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: chat-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I was browsing through the massive inet-access FAQ at http://amazing.cinenet.net/ when I came across a section that needs some filling in: > 6.7 PCs running BSD derivatives other than BSDI > > I know little about this, so someone else will have to fill in this > part of the FAQ. BSD is said have better-debugged networking code than > Linux, but support from the newsgroup doesn't seem to be as good. I > would say that Linux has at least 10 times as many newsgroup readers, > with proportionately better support chances. Who here runs an ISP on FreeBSD machines? I know Matt Dillon at best.com and Mark Hittinger at win.net do. -- Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Aug 10 06:38:02 1995 Return-Path: chat-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id GAA03973 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 06:38:02 -0700 Received: from grunt.grondar.za (grunt.grondar.za [196.7.18.129]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA03966 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 06:37:23 -0700 Received: from grumble.grondar.za (grumble.grondar.za [196.7.18.130]) by grunt.grondar.za (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA10651; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 15:35:50 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grumble.grondar.za (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA18090; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 15:35:49 +0200 Message-Id: <199508101335.PAA18090@grumble.grondar.za> X-Authentication-Warning: grumble.grondar.za: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Brian Tao cc: FREEBSD-CHAT-L , dillon@best.com, bugs@win.net Subject: Re: FreeBSD in inet-access FAQ Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 15:35:48 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: chat-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I was browsing through the massive inet-access FAQ at > http://amazing.cinenet.net/ when I came across a section that needs > some filling in: > > > 6.7 PCs running BSD derivatives other than BSDI > > > > I know little about this, so someone else will have to fill in this > > part of the FAQ. BSD is said have better-debugged networking code than > > Linux, but support from the newsgroup doesn't seem to be as good. I > > would say that Linux has at least 10 times as many newsgroup readers, > > with proportionately better support chances. > > Who here runs an ISP on FreeBSD machines? I know Matt Dillon at > best.com and Mark Hittinger at win.net do. Here in Cape Town, South Africa we run our news/mail hub on FreeBSD 1.1.5.1. M -- Mark Murray 46 Harvey Rd, Claremont, Cape Town 7700, South Africa +27 21 61-3768 GMT+0200 Finger mark@grumble.grondar.za for PGP key From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Aug 10 07:31:13 1995 Return-Path: chat-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id HAA05434 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 07:31:13 -0700 Received: from mail.id.net (kilroy.id.net [152.160.9.10]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA05427 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 07:31:11 -0700 Received: from hades.id.net (hades.id.net [152.160.9.12]) by mail.id.net (8.6.8/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA06742; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 10:30:35 -0400 From: Robert Shady Received: (rls@localhost) by hades.id.net (8.6.11/8.6.6) id SAA04949; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 18:30:34 -0400 Message-Id: <199508092230.SAA04949@hades.id.net> Subject: Re: FreeBSD in inet-access FAQ To: mark@grondar.za (Mark Murray) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 18:30:34 -0400 (EDT) Cc: taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, dillon@best.com, bugs@win.net In-Reply-To: <199508101335.PAA18090@grumble.grondar.za> from "Mark Murray" at Aug 10, 95 03:35:48 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1431 Sender: chat-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > I was browsing through the massive inet-access FAQ at > > http://amazing.cinenet.net/ when I came across a section that needs > > some filling in: > > > > > 6.7 PCs running BSD derivatives other than BSDI > > > > > > I know little about this, so someone else will have to fill in this > > > part of the FAQ. BSD is said have better-debugged networking code than > > > Linux, but support from the newsgroup doesn't seem to be as good. I > > > would say that Linux has at least 10 times as many newsgroup readers, > > > with proportionately better support chances. > > > > Who here runs an ISP on FreeBSD machines? I know Matt Dillon at > > best.com and Mark Hittinger at win.net do. > > Here in Cape Town, South Africa we run our news/mail hub on FreeBSD 1.1.5.1. We run our News Server, File Server, Mail Server, and User machines off of FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 and FreeBSD-2.1.0-SNAP machines. We've had excellent success with them. === _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ Innovative Data Services Serving South-Eastern Michigan Internet Service Provider / Hardware Sales / Consulting Services Voice: (810)348-0000 / Fax: (810)348-9430 / Web: http://www.id.net From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Aug 10 08:20:38 1995 Return-Path: chat-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA07727 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 08:20:38 -0700 Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [205.218.122.51]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA07718 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 08:20:37 -0700 Received: (from winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA25111; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 10:17:50 -0500 Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 10:17:48 -0500 (CDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" X-Sender: winter@sasami To: FREEBSD-CHAT-L Subject: Re: FreeBSD in inet-access FAQ In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: chat-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 10 Aug 1995, Brian Tao wrote: > Who here runs an ISP on FreeBSD machines? I know Matt Dillon at > best.com and Mark Hittinger at win.net do. We do. Pretty happy with it for the most part. The only thing that bothers me is that the quotas are a bit broken. []----------------------------------------------------------------------[] | Matthew N. Dodd winter@jurai.net | | Technical Manager mdodd@intersurf.net | | InterSurf Online, Inc. (504) 755-0500 | []----------------------------------------------------------------------[] From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Aug 10 08:33:10 1995 Return-Path: chat-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA08525 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 08:33:10 -0700 Received: from aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw ([140.109.40.248]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA08512 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 08:33:00 -0700 Received: (from taob@localhost) by aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA07451; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 23:31:20 +0800 Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 23:31:17 +0800 (CST) From: Brian Tao To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org, Joerg Wunsch Subject: Re: Promoting FreeBSD Web servers In-Reply-To: <199508100702.JAA03384@uriah.heep.sax.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: chat-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 10 Aug 1995, J Wunsch wrote: > > I believe so. For non-commercial purposes, Kirk doesn't mind, as long > as it's used in a ``morally good'' way (e.g. the daemon smashing a > Window(s) would violate the copyright). Nope, nothing as violent as that. ;-) I redrew the icon today (got rid of the pinkish glow, used slightly larger lettering and the daemon is much clearer now). The graphic is located on my Web site at http://aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw/~taob/Images/pbf.gif . Of course, everyone is welcome to use it wherever they see fit. I suggest using it in this context: [Powered by FreeBSD!] Don't forget this somewhere on the page: BSD Daemon Copyright 1988 by Marshall Kirk McKusick. All Rights Reserved. > Yes, that would be sufficient. Please send me a copy of the bitmap > file (preferably in GIF format) for my archives. > > ~Kirk He would probably appreciate a copy. What's his current e-mail address? -- Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Aug 10 08:55:30 1995 Return-Path: chat-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA09236 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 08:55:30 -0700 Received: from kryten.atinc.com (kryten.Atinc.COM [198.138.38.7]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA09200 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 08:55:12 -0700 Received: (jmb@localhost) by kryten.atinc.com (8.6.9/8.3) id LAA02926; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 11:45:57 -0400 Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 11:45:56 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: Promoting FreeBSD Web servers To: Brian Tao cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, Joerg Wunsch In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: chat-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 10 Aug 1995, Brian Tao wrote: > Nope, nothing as violent as that. ;-) I redrew the icon today > (got rid of the pinkish glow, used slightly larger lettering and the > daemon is much clearer now). The graphic is located on my Web site at > http://aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw/~taob/Images/pbf.gif . Of course, brian! it is absolutely beautiful. this is going to become a sticker on every machine running FreeBSD in this office, including the laptops. now can you create a version that is 7.5 to 10 cm tall and scaled width. i think we have a bumper sticker :)) Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.Org | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Aug 10 09:09:05 1995 Return-Path: chat-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id JAA09809 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 09:09:05 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA09802 ; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 09:09:04 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.FreeBSD.org: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: Brian Tao , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, Joerg Wunsch Subject: Re: Promoting FreeBSD Web servers In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 10 Aug 95 11:45:56 EDT." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 09:08:48 -0700 Message-ID: <9797.808070928@freefall.FreeBSD.org> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: chat-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > On Thu, 10 Aug 1995, Brian Tao wrote: > > > Nope, nothing as violent as that. ;-) I redrew the icon today > > (got rid of the pinkish glow, used slightly larger lettering and the > > daemon is much clearer now). The graphic is located on my Web site at > > http://aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw/~taob/Images/pbf.gif . Of course, > > brian! it is absolutely beautiful. this is going to > become a sticker on every machine running FreeBSD in this office, > including the laptops. This may go very well with my next set of enhancements to sysinstall.. I noticed when installing BSD/OS (I finally decided to take a good look at 2.0!) that they offer you the chance to configure a web server, which is actually nothing more than 3 prompts asking you for your company name, email address and general info - all of which gets stuck into a default home page for the new server. Very simple, but it gives instant gratification to the hopeful server installer and BSDI took this opportunity to put a clever little "Powered by BSD/OS 2.0" with the BSDI logo at the bottom of the page. Most likely, your average customer will think that's cool and leave it in (or not even know how to remove it :-). That's good advertising. I want it and the feature for automated server configuration (for which I'm always willing to entertain suggestions) WILL be going into 2.1... :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Aug 10 09:14:20 1995 Return-Path: chat-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id JAA10251 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 09:14:20 -0700 Received: from penzance.econ.yale.edu (penzance.econ.yale.edu [130.132.32.100]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA10244 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 09:14:18 -0700 Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 12:16:23 -0400 (EDT) From: -Vince- To: Brian Tao cc: FREEBSD-CHAT-L Subject: Re: Promoting FreeBSD Web servers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: chat-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 10 Aug 1995, Brian Tao wrote: > There is a thread on the Apache mailing list about promoting sites > that used the Apache HTTP server. A contest of sorts was commenced, > asking for submissions of graphic art indicating that the server was > using the Apache software. > > I thought this would be a nice idea for FreeBSD servers as well. > The only problem is the copyright on the BSD Daemon. Are we allowed > to use it if no profit is gained from it, and if the copyright is > clearly displayed? I used the rendition of the Daemon from the cover > of the 2.0.5 CD-ROM in my icon. http://aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw/ . Just curious but what are the differences between the httpd from CERN, NCSA and Apache? Cheers, -Vince- vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu - GUS Mailing Lists Admin UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering - UC Berkeley Fall '95 SysAdmin bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU - Running FreeBSD, Real UN*X for Free! Chabot Observatory & Science Center From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Aug 10 09:55:57 1995 Return-Path: chat-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id JAA11695 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 09:55:57 -0700 Received: from aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw ([140.109.40.248]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA11688 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 09:55:44 -0700 Received: (from taob@localhost) by aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw (8.6.11/8.6.9) id AAA07590; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 00:55:32 +0800 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 00:55:31 +0800 (CST) From: Brian Tao To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org cc: hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp Subject: Re: Promoting FreeBSD Web servers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: chat-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 10 Aug 1995, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > > brian! it is absolutely beautiful. this is going to > become a sticker on every machine running FreeBSD in this office, > including the laptops. *blush*... thank you. :) > now can you create a version that is 7.5 to 10 cm tall and scaled > width. i think we have a bumper sticker :)) More FreeBSD paraphernalia! The daemon I have was scanned from the reverse side of a wipe-off tattoo, then flipped around, so the colours are rather blotchy. I diddled around with it in Photoshop, then reduced it so you can't really tell. Mr. Hosokawa ought to have a large rendition of the daemon in mid-stride from his CD-ROM cover artwork. If I can get a copy of that from him, I could easily create a big version of the logo, suitable for output on a colour printer for a variety of uses around home and office. :) I thought the idea of Walnut Creek giving away FreeBSD T-shirts and wipe-off tattoos at the Toronto Comdex was a fabulous idea. I never would have bothered with the 2.0.5 CD-ROMs if there wasn't a free T-shirt in the deal. ;-) It left the Linux people standing at the booth wondering if there was something for them ("Well, have you guys come up with a mascot yet?"). :) Apple gives away Apple logo stickers of all sizes (or at least they used to with the Apple II's) and SGI bundles cool foam rubber balls with their Indys. A handful of FreeBSD daemon stickers stuck in with the CD-ROM insert booklet would be great to have. People will want to stick them on binders, windows, sides of monitors, desks, etc. I used to agonize over where best to affix those Apple stickers... :) -- Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Aug 10 10:30:10 1995 Return-Path: chat-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA13114 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 10:30:10 -0700 Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA13024 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 10:29:54 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id GAA01675; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 06:53:17 -0700 To: Brian Tao cc: FREEBSD-CHAT-L Subject: Re: Promoting FreeBSD Web servers In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 10 Aug 1995 10:00:53 +0800." Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 06:53:16 -0700 Message-ID: <1672.808062796@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: chat-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I thought this would be a nice idea for FreeBSD servers as well. > The only problem is the copyright on the BSD Daemon. Are we allowed > to use it if no profit is gained from it, and if the copyright is > clearly displayed? I used the rendition of the Daemon from the cover Yes, that pretty much sums it up. Jordan From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Aug 10 12:55:45 1995 Return-Path: chat-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id MAA19602 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 12:55:45 -0700 Received: from kryten.atinc.com (kryten.Atinc.COM [198.138.38.7]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA19593 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 12:55:40 -0700 Received: (jmb@localhost) by kryten.atinc.com (8.6.9/8.3) id PAA09462; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 15:47:13 -0400 Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 15:47:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: Promoting FreeBSD Web servers To: Brian Tao cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: chat-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 11 Aug 1995, Brian Tao wrote: > More FreeBSD paraphernalia! The daemon I have was scanned from > the reverse side of a wipe-off tattoo, then flipped around, so the > colours are rather blotchy. I diddled around with it in Photoshop, > then reduced it so you can't really tell. Mr. Hosokawa ought to have > a large rendition of the daemon in mid-stride from his CD-ROM cover > artwork. If I can get a copy of that from him, I could easily create > a big version of the logo, suitable for output on a colour printer for > a variety of uses around home and office. :) now that would be righteous. please send me the gif or a url. the graphics department here ask me to request that the gif be rgb format rather than indexed. claim rgb is better for printing, indexed better for http Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.Org | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Aug 10 17:59:35 1995 Return-Path: chat-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id RAA16257 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 17:59:35 -0700 Received: from aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw ([140.109.40.248]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA16080 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 17:56:07 -0700 Received: (from taob@localhost) by aries.ibms.sinica.edu.tw (8.6.11/8.6.9) id IAA08160; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 08:52:31 +0800 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 08:52:31 +0800 (CST) From: Brian Tao To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp Subject: Re: Promoting FreeBSD Web servers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: chat-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 10 Aug 1995, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > > now that would be righteous. please send me the gif or a url. > the graphics department here ask me to request that the gif be rgb format > rather than indexed. claim rgb is better for printing, indexed better > for http Yep, a true colour space allows more accurate conversion to CMYK (which is needed in the print process) as well as finer control over hue/saturation/brightness adjustments to accomodate the particular printer being used. I can keep GIF, JPEG, compressed TIFF and Photoshop 3.0 formats around, which should cover all the angles. -- Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Aug 11 01:27:01 1995 Return-Path: chat-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id BAA11129 for chat-outgoing; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 01:27:01 -0700 Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA11122 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 01:26:57 -0700 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de with SMTP (5.67b+/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA04020; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 10:24:46 +0200 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id KAA00495; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 10:24:45 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA07497; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 09:44:56 +0200 From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199508110744.JAA07497@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: FreeBSD in inet-access FAQ To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 09:44:56 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: bugs@win.net Reply-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Brian Tao" at Aug 10, 95 09:16:30 pm Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 651 Sender: chat-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk As Brian Tao wrote: > > Who here runs an ISP on FreeBSD machines? I know Matt Dillon at > best.com and Mark Hittinger at win.net do. sax.de is a non-commercial ISP. Our central site, sax.sax.de used to run FreeBSD 1.1.5.1R by now, but it's due to upgrade by the next weekend (to 2.0.5R), since we'd like to start using PPP and the 1.1.5.1 pppd gave us some grief. Needless to say that i'm the person in charge for technical problems related to FreeBSD there, even though i'm not the major admin. ;) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Aug 12 05:23:50 1995 Return-Path: chat-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id FAA24638 for chat-outgoing; Sat, 12 Aug 1995 05:23:50 -0700 Received: from oasis.txdirect.net (oasis.txdirect.net [204.57.120.34]) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA24630 for ; Sat, 12 Aug 1995 05:23:47 -0700 Received: (from rsnow@localhost) by oasis.txdirect.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id HAA17049; Sat, 12 Aug 1995 07:22:48 -0500 Date: Sat, 12 Aug 1995 07:22:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Rob Snow X-Sender: rsnow@oasis To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Good deal on motherboards. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: chat-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've been half-heartedly following a WAR between 2 motherboard sellers on misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.motherboards. These 2 guys (RCS & Venkat) have been flaming each other most of the week and have been dropping prices at each flame. :-) The one with the lowest prices today, Ray at RCS accepts credit-cards and no surcharge. The prices I'm seeing are: Intel Endeavour with 256K PBSRAM for $340 Tyan Titan-II with SYNCBURST $280 Asus P55TPXE w/256K PB for $300 They look pretty good to me, however I'm no expert in these things. BTW, for additional info check out the newsgroup, which has some VERY animated conversation. Here are some links I cut from their posts. http://ifu.ifu.net/html/tech/rcs/rcs.html http://www.infinet.com/~venkat http://www.iglou.com/venkat --- Rob Snow rsnow@txdirect.net