From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Aug 11 19:38:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA25646 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 19:38:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dunquin (PPP-76-9.BU.EDU [128.197.7.189]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA25638 for ; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 19:38:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rdmurphy@localhost) by dunquin (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA10484; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 20:41:11 -0400 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 20:41:11 -0400 Message-Id: <199608090041.UAA10484@dunquin> From: "Russell D. Murphy" To: scott@statsci.com CC: chuckr@glue.umd.edu, mrm@mole.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, terryl@ienet.com In-reply-to: (message from Scott Blachowicz on Thu, 08 Aug 1996 16:00:51 -0700) Subject: Re: IDE or SCSI if only one drive Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk | I'd like to squeeze a V.34 modem upgrade (any opinions on the USR | Sportsters for a home, primarily dial-out use?) I've got an internal one running on a home system and have been pleased so far. However, I've been having trouble trying to setup Hylafax over the past day or so and am getting hints (Hylafax docs and mailing list) that the Sportster firmware might be part of the problem. Russell D. Murphy Department of Economics Boston University 270 Bay State Road Boston, Massachusetts (617) 353-4124 rdmurphy@bu.edu From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Aug 11 21:57:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA00880 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 21:57:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA00875; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 21:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199608120457.VAA00875@freefall.freebsd.org> To: Carey.Nairn@its.utas.edu.au cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with AHA2940UW and ST32155 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 10 Aug 1996 09:00:54 +1000." Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 21:57:05 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Booting to FBSD gives the following relevant dmesg lines: > >ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:17 >ahc0: aic7870 Ultra Wide Channel, SCSI Id=7, aic7870, 255 SCBs >ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle >(ahc0:0:0): "SEAGATE ST32155W 0528" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 >sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 2049MB (4197405 512 byte sectors) You are running a *very* old version of the aic7xxx driver. You should upgrade to 2.1.5R. >Carey > >========================================================================= >Carey Nairn ! email : Carey.Nairn@its.utas.edu.au >Infrastructure Services ! phone : (002) 20 7419 >Information Technology Services ! fax : (002) 20 7898 >University of Tasmania. ! >========================================================================= > > > -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Aug 11 22:57:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA02695 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 22:57:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA02685 for ; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 22:57:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA14298; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 15:43:02 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199608120613.PAA14298@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Jaz drive suppliers & details? To: patl@Phoenix.Volant.ORG Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 15:43:01 +0930 (CST) Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, mamirh@atrad.adelaide.edu.au In-Reply-To: <9608101738.AA17353@asimov.volant.org> from "patl@asimov.volant.org" at Aug 10, 96 10:38:22 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk patl@asimov.volant.org stands accused of saying: > > It's not a wall-wart, it's a brick. It has a fixed cable that runs to > the power connector on the drive, and a standard power-cable-with-socket > to connect to the wall. (The same type of cable and socket we get for > monitors, computers, etc.) Spiff, it takes an elephant. That's a plus; a pile of elephants is a pleasant alternative to a pile of plug adapters. (And they're usually locally available). > The label on the brick claims: > > Input: 100V~240V~ 0.4A 50/60Hz And a universal brick to boot. I'm sold. > Cartridges run $US 120..125 each; but you can order them directly from > iomega at 5 for $US 500. They list the price for Canada; but I don't > seem to have it handy. I don't know if they accept other foreign orders. Hmm, that might be nice. At about AUD$200 each here I'm likely to import them for a while 8) Thanks. I've ordered, now I just have to wait 8) > -Pat -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Aug 11 23:30:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA03717 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 23:30:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA03711 for ; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 23:30:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) id IAA05321; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 08:16:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by klemm.gtn.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA00731; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 22:35:40 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 22:35:40 +0200 (MET DST) From: Andreas Klemm To: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" cc: Rob Snow , hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: P6 Natoma chipset In-Reply-To: <199608070350.UAA21032@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> Message-ID: X-try-apsfilter: ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz X-Fax: +49 2137 2018 X-Phone: +49 2137 2020 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com wrote: > I believe a decent current BIOS should be able to do this. I just > ordered the SuperMicro Dual P6 board (with one 200MHz CPU). Well see > when it arrives. :-) Do you think FreeBSD will run onto it using 1 CPU or ... -- andreas@klemm.gtn.com /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ Support Unix -- andreas.klemm@wup.de pgp p-key http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html >>> powered by <<< ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz >>> FreeBSD <<< From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Aug 11 23:48:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA04314 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 23:48:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MindBender.HeadCandy.com (root@mindbender.headcandy.com [199.238.225.168]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA04282 for ; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 23:47:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.HeadCandy.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA14779; Sun, 11 Aug 1996 23:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199608120647.XAA14779@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.HeadCandy.com: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Andreas Klemm cc: Rob Snow , hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: P6 Natoma chipset In-reply-to: Your message of Sun, 11 Aug 96 22:35:40 +0200. Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 23:47:22 -0700 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com wrote: >> I believe a decent current BIOS should be able to do this. I just >> ordered the SuperMicro Dual P6 board (with one 200MHz CPU). Well see >> when it arrives. :-) >Do you think FreeBSD will run onto it using 1 CPU or ... There is no reason why it wouldn't run on it... (And in fact, I would expect the FreeBSD experimental SMP code to run on it with both CPUs.) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@HeadCandy.com --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... Roll your own Internet access -- Seattle People's Internet cooperative. If you're in the Seattle area, ask me how. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Aug 12 00:01:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA04803 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 00:01:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wedge.its.utas.edu.au (cp_nairn@wedge.its.utas.edu.au [131.217.10.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA04798 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 00:01:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cp_nairn@localhost) by wedge.its.utas.edu.au (8.7.1/8.6.6) id RAA12072; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 17:01:29 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 17:01:29 +1000 (EST) From: Carey Nairn X-Sender: cp_nairn@wedge.its.utas.edu.au Reply-To: Carey.Nairn@its.utas.edu.au To: "Justin T. Gibbs" cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problem with AHA2940UW and ST32155 In-Reply-To: <199608120457.VAA00875@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 11 Aug 1996, Justin T. Gibbs wrote: > >Booting to FBSD gives the following relevant dmesg lines: > > > >ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:17 > >ahc0: aic7870 Ultra Wide Channel, SCSI Id=7, aic7870, 255 SCBs > >ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle > >(ahc0:0:0): "SEAGATE ST32155W 0528" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 > >sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 2049MB (4197405 512 byte sectors) > > You are running a *very* old version of the aic7xxx driver. You should > upgrade to 2.1.5R. > I will just as soon as my CD arrives :) Cheers, Carey ========================================================================= Carey Nairn ! email : Carey.Nairn@its.utas.edu.au Infrastructure Services ! phone : (002) 20 7419 Information Technology Services ! fax : (002) 20 7898 University of Tasmania. ! ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Aug 12 09:02:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA25896 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 09:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA25619 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 08:54:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA26630; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 21:55:11 +0300 Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 21:55:10 +0300 (EET DST) From: Narvi To: patl@Phoenix.Volant.ORG cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, mamirh@atrad.adelaide.edu.au Subject: Re: Jaz drive suppliers & details? In-Reply-To: <9608101738.AA17353@asimov.volant.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 10 Aug 1996 patl@asimov.volant.org wrote: > And for you 'mercans reading this, an inch is defined as being exactly > 2.54 cm.) > Would it only be that all M$ products used it like that, not defining an inch to be 2.5 (causing headaches when trying to find the with of something in points or inches)... Sander PS. Follow up to this in -chat... > > > -Pat > > My opinions are my own. For a small royalty, they can be yours as well... > Pat Lashley, Senior Software Engineer, Henry Davis Consulting > patl@Phoenix.Volant.ORG http://Phoenix.Volant.ORG/ > From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Aug 12 13:12:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA14034 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 13:12:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tetsuo.communique.net (Tetsuo.Communique.Net [204.27.64.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA14019 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 13:12:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ryu.communique.net (Ryu.Communique.Net [204.27.64.11]) by tetsuo.communique.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA26465 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 15:12:07 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 15:12:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Raul Zighelboim To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Kernel panic: Adding new Hard Disk to FreeBSD box... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk System has: SCSI contoller aic0 id 7 HD1: Quantum Maverick 540 on SCSI id 0 CDRom: At id 2 All works well. Then I add a Maxtor 540 Megs Hard Disk... Kernel panics: aic at line 2561: unexpected busfree phase Debugger("aic6360") called. panic: panic for historical reasons Notice that the drive does work; I can mount it on a IBM PowerPC and install AIX (were it came originally) or boot under DOS and load Windows 3.1 on it. Question: Is there a way to get this drive working ? Thanks. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Raul Zighelboim e-mail: mango@communique.net Communique Inc. Tel: 504.527.6208 Technical Specialist Fax: 504.527.6030 From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Aug 12 13:13:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA14166 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 13:13:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA14126 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 13:13:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) id VAA20063; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 21:45:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by klemm.gtn.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA00288; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 21:38:30 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 21:38:30 +0200 (MET DST) From: Andreas Klemm To: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" cc: Rob Snow , hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: P6 Natoma chipset In-Reply-To: <199608120647.XAA14779@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> Message-ID: X-try-apsfilter: ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz X-Fax: +49 2137 2018 X-Phone: +49 2137 2020 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 11 Aug 1996, Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com wrote: > > >On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com wrote: > >> I believe a decent current BIOS should be able to do this. I just > >> ordered the SuperMicro Dual P6 board (with one 200MHz CPU). Well see > >> when it arrives. :-) > > >Do you think FreeBSD will run onto it using 1 CPU or ... > > There is no reason why it wouldn't run on it... (And in fact, I would > expect the FreeBSD experimental SMP code to run on it with both CPUs.) Hi Michael ! Would be nice if you could give me further informations on this topic ... I think two P90 overclocked to 100 MHz on a multiprocessor board would be a nice system ... Or what do you think about this (little) overclocking ?! It runs here since months ... Since I buy a new CPU/System every or every two years, it doesn't matter for me, if the CPU has a lifetime of 2 or 10 years ;-) 133 Mhz doesn't run ;-)) Andreas /// -- andreas@klemm.gtn.com /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ Support Unix -- andreas.klemm@wup.de pgp p-key http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html >>> powered by <<< ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz >>> FreeBSD <<< From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Aug 12 14:46:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA25886 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 14:46:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clem.systemsix.com (clem.systemsix.com [198.99.86.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA25873 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 14:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clem.systemsix.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA14328; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 15:44:53 -0600 Message-Id: <199608122144.PAA14328@clem.systemsix.com> X-Authentication-Warning: clem.systemsix.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: Andreas Klemm cc: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" , Rob Snow , hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: P6 Natoma chipset In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 12 Aug 1996 21:38:30 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 15:44:53 -0600 Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > Would be nice if you could give me further informations on this > topic ... I think two P90 overclocked to 100 MHz on a multiprocessor > board would be a nice system ... Or what do you think about this > (little) overclocking ?! It runs here since months ... for overclocking info check this out: http://www.u-net.com/~sysdoc/ovrclock.htm -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Aug 12 22:59:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA22792 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 22:59:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA22786 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 1996 22:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) id HAA29868; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 07:46:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by klemm.gtn.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA03936; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 07:25:37 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 07:25:37 +0200 (MET DST) From: Andreas Klemm To: Steve Passe cc: hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: P6 Natoma chipset In-Reply-To: <199608122144.PAA14328@clem.systemsix.com> Message-ID: X-try-apsfilter: ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz X-Fax: +49 2137 2018 X-Phone: +49 2137 2020 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 12 Aug 1996, Steve Passe wrote: > Hi, > > > Would be nice if you could give me further informations on this > > topic ... I think two P90 overclocked to 100 MHz on a multiprocessor > > board would be a nice system ... Or what do you think about this > > (little) overclocking ?! It runs here since months ... > > for overclocking info check this out: > http://www.u-net.com/~sysdoc/ovrclock.htm Thanks, already did so, 100 MHz is the Maximum, I didn't try 120, because it's for me - too close on the failing 133 Mhz - two slow regarding internal 30 MHz bus speed. -- andreas@klemm.gtn.com /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ Support Unix -- andreas.klemm@wup.de pgp p-key http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html >>> powered by <<< ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz >>> FreeBSD <<< From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Aug 13 00:23:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA27025 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 00:23:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MindBender.HeadCandy.com (root@mindbender.headcandy.com [199.238.225.168]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA26721 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 00:17:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.HeadCandy.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA19890; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 00:17:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199608130717.AAA19890@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.HeadCandy.com: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Andreas Klemm cc: Rob Snow , hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: P6 Natoma chipset In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 12 Aug 96 21:38:30 +0200. Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 00:17:09 -0700 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> >On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com wrote: >> >> I believe a decent current BIOS should be able to do this. I just >> >> ordered the SuperMicro Dual P6 board (with one 200MHz CPU). Well see >> >> when it arrives. :-) >> >Do you think FreeBSD will run onto it using 1 CPU or ... >> There is no reason why it wouldn't run on it... (And in fact, I would >> expect the FreeBSD experimental SMP code to run on it with both CPUs.) >Would be nice if you could give me further informations on this >topic ... I think two P90 overclocked to 100 MHz on a multiprocessor >board would be a nice system ... Or what do you think about this >(little) overclocking ?! It runs here since months ... That should work fine, and would make a fairly fast system. Running a P90 at 100MHz is probably not a big deal. However, just remember that the SMP code in FreeBSD is very alpha-quality. Which means it might be fun to play with, but it might also be pretty unstable at times. Stick with motherboards you know have a good reputation if you decide to go dual-CPU. >Since I buy a new CPU/System every or every two years, it doesn't >matter for me, if the CPU has a lifetime of 2 or 10 years ;-) Well, P6 prices are starting to fall, now. If you really want the ultimate speed, you might consider getting a Pentium Pro. On the other hand, if you want a lot of hardware cheap, Pentiums and 6x86s are starting to get in that real sweet spot where you get the most bang for the buck. I think the 200MHz Pentium is a waste, though. It is just too fast for the bus, and ends up wasting most of its cycles waiting for data. If you look at the benchmarks, it's barely faster than a P5/166. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@HeadCandy.com --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... Roll your own Internet access -- Seattle People's Internet cooperative. If you're in the Seattle area, ask me how. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Aug 13 04:04:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA07218 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 04:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ceylon.informatik.uni-rostock.de (ceylon.informatik.uni-rostock.de [139.30.5.237]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA07197; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 04:04:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ceylon.informatik.uni-rostock.de id NAA24919; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 13:04:38 +0200 Received: by donau.informatik.uni-rostock.de id NAA00326; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 13:04:37 +0200 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 13:04:37 +0200 From: Gunther Hipper Message-Id: <199608131104.NAA00326@donau.informatik.uni-rostock.de> To: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Anyone Experiences with Intel TXC Chipset or GA-586DX/GA-586HX motherboard ?? Cc: gunther@ceylon.informatik.uni-rostock.de X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi to you all ! I've a certain problem because I would like to buy new motherboards which should be albe to run FreeBSD. The boards are Gigabyte GA-586HX and/or GA-586DX both (hopefully) state of the art ... but I don't yet know any guy using them. The Chipset is an Intel TXC 82439HX Rev.01h in both boards. Until now, we always used Gigabyte boards - everything works fine with GA-486DX and GA-486ATE (Triton Chipset). Now my questions: Is anyone using one or both of these boards ? Are there any problems or are certain problems to be expected running FreeBSD ? Mention: I do _not_ explicitly care about SMP on the GA-586DX Dual-CPU-Slot board. If it's running - okay, but for the moment a single processor should be enough. Propably, the board should be Intel-SMP conform. This is an Intel chipset, hell, is'nt it ? I'd be glad if someone could give me some hints. Gunther Gunther Hipper | University of Rostock | Department of Computer Science | Tel +49 381 498 3391 Albert-Einstein-Str. 21 | Fax +49 381 498 3440 18051 Rostock - Germany | Email Gunther.Hipper@informatik.uni-rostock.de From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Aug 13 09:16:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA21903 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 09:16:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyvox.net.au (gateway.cyvox.net.au [203.24.200.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA21893 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 09:16:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by cyvox.net.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA29914; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 01:48:06 +0930 Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 01:48:06 +0930 (CST) From: mail To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199607112354.JAA20628@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe mail@cyvox.net.au From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Aug 13 11:43:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA02870 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 11:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clem.systemsix.com (clem.systemsix.com [198.99.86.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA02862 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 11:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clem.systemsix.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA19949; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 12:42:44 -0600 Message-Id: <199608131842.MAA19949@clem.systemsix.com> X-Authentication-Warning: clem.systemsix.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: Gunther Hipper cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, gunther@ceylon.informatik.uni-rostock.de Subject: Re: Anyone Experiences with Intel TXC Chipset or GA-586DX/GA-586HX motherboard ?? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 13 Aug 1996 13:04:37 +0200." <199608131104.NAA00326@donau.informatik.uni-rostock.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 12:42:44 -0600 Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > The boards are > > Gigabyte GA-586HX and/or GA-586DX > ... > (Triton Chipset). Now my questions: > > Is anyone using one or both of these boards ? I am using the GA-586DX with 2 133 mHz P5s, 64MB memory. > Are there any problems or are certain problems to be > expected running FreeBSD ? So far it has worked perfectly. SMP FreeBSD still has problems, but that is only a matter of time... > Propably, the board should be Intel-SMP conform. It is, but the manual doesn't say to what revision level. This board (the DX, ie dual CPU) is an ATX form-factor and has (optionally) an Adaptec 2940UW controller built in. I believe the other (GA-586HX) is baby AT, with NO option for the 2940UW. More info: http://www.surfusa.com/mbs/ga/586dx.html http://www.surfusa.com/mbs/ga/586hx.html Typical prices: Gigabyte GA-586DX-512 $349 Gigabyte GA-586HX-512 $199 -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Aug 13 14:16:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA11284 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 14:16:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from charlotte.spiders.com (charlotte.spiders.com [199.224.7.188]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA11264 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 14:16:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gwh@localhost) by charlotte.spiders.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA05079 for hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 17:19:27 -0400 Message-Id: <199608132119.RAA05079@charlotte.spiders.com> From: gwh@spiders.com (Gene W Homicki) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 17:19:27 -0400 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: (RAID) DPT SCSI controller driver Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, Back in May or early June there was some talk about the possibility of a DPT SCSI controller driver. Has anything come of this? I'm very interetsed in RAID support (any card)... Thanks! --Gene -- Gene W. Homicki gwh@spiders.com Objective Consulting, Inc. http://www.spiders.com/ Internet Presence Design voice: +1 914.353.3511 From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Aug 13 22:16:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA06746 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 22:16:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sili.adn.edu.ph (sili.adn.edu.ph [165.220.57.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA06342 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 22:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sili.adn.edu.ph (sili.adn.edu.ph [165.220.57.2]) by sili.adn.edu.ph (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA02897 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 13:11:57 +1000 Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 13:11:57 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: "Francis Percival C. Favoreal" To: FreeBSD Hardware Subject: cy0 not found Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk HI !!! I am running FreeBSD 2.2-SNAP????. We just installed the card Cyclom-Ye/PCI. I recompiled my FBSD kernel to support cy0. But, everytime I boot fbsd, I keep on seeing, cy0 not found I used IRQ 10 IOMEM 0xD4000. How do I make fbsd see the cy0 ??? Thank you for your time. -- jf From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Aug 13 23:18:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA10249 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 23:18:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palin.cc.monash.edu.au (palin.cc.monash.edu.au [130.194.2.87]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA10242 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 1996 23:17:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (peter@localhost) by palin.cc.monash.edu.au (8.7.3/8.6.4) id QAA11030; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 16:17:27 +1000 Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 16:17:27 +1000 From: Peter Hawkins Message-Id: <199608140617.QAA11030@palin.cc.monash.edu.au> To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, june@adn.edu.ph Subject: Re: cy0 not found Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk There is no PCI cyclom driver. Only ISA. I have a PCI card and am working on a driver for PCI. Peter From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Aug 14 02:08:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA17645 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 02:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA17636 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 02:08:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA05341; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 19:08:05 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 19:08:03 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: "Francis Percival C. Favoreal" cc: FreeBSD Hardware Subject: Re: cy0 not found In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 14 Aug 1996, Francis Percival C. Favoreal wrote: > > I am running FreeBSD 2.2-SNAP????. We just installed the card > Cyclom-Ye/PCI. I recompiled my FBSD kernel to support cy0. But, everytime > I boot fbsd, I keep on seeing, > > cy0 not found > > I used IRQ 10 IOMEM 0xD4000. > > How do I make fbsd see the cy0 ??? Help Peter Hawkins write the driver for the PCI card. ISA cards work fine. Danny From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Aug 14 07:19:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA01299 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 07:19:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.muc.ditec.de (gw.muc.ditec.de [194.120.126.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA01294 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 07:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tick.muc.ditec.de (tick.muc.ditec.de [134.98.18.50]) by gw.muc.ditec.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA10912 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 16:20:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from me@localhost) by tick.muc.ditec.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id QAA21105 for hardware@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 16:19:06 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Elbel Message-Id: <199608141419.QAA21105@tick.muc.ditec.de> Subject: Can somebody recommend a notebook? To: hardware@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 16:19:06 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I need to get a notebook here at work. Can anybody recommend something. Additionally, has anybody tried to install FreeBSD on one of the newer DIGITAL HiNote Notebooks? They do look good. Michael From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Aug 14 07:55:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA03534 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 07:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA03528 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 07:55:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id AAA03741; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 00:42:48 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199608141512.AAA03741@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Can somebody recommend a notebook? To: me@tick.muc.ditec.de (Michael Elbel) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 00:42:47 +0930 (CST) Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199608141419.QAA21105@tick.muc.ditec.de> from "Michael Elbel" at Aug 14, 96 04:19:06 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Michael Elbel stands accused of saying: > > I need to get a notebook here at work. Can anybody recommend something. > Additionally, has anybody tried to install FreeBSD on one of the newer > DIGITAL HiNote Notebooks? They do look good. I can strongly recomment the new Sharp PC9000 units; I've had one for several months now and am very happy with it. Even the base model (the PC9000) comes with all the mod cons; CD, stereo, 800x600 display etc, and it works perfectly with FreeBSD. The only drawbacks so far are : - the display is incompatible with XFree86, and Accelerated X can only be run in non-accelerated mode. (Bearable) - the APM bios disagrees with FreeBSD's APM code. (Being worked on, slowly 8) > Michael -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Aug 14 09:18:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA11395 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 09:18:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from suw3svr01 (suw3svr01.hisd.harris.com [158.147.19.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA11390 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 09:18:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from suw2k.hisd.harris.com by suw3svr01 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA04811; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 12:18:27 -0400 Received: by suw2k.hisd.harris.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05671; Wed, 14 Aug 96 12:14:50 EDT Date: Wed, 14 Aug 96 12:14:50 EDT From: jleppek@suw2k.hisd.harris.com (James Leppek) Message-Id: <9608141614.AA05671@suw2k.hisd.harris.com> To: gunther@informatik.uni-rostock.de Subject: Re: Anyone Experiences with Intel TXC Chipset or GA-586DX/GA-586HX motherboard ?? Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have been using the GA-586HX board with 32 meg of 60ns EDO memory for a while and the only problem I had was that I could not use the EDO setting from the manual for the RAS-CAS delay. I could lower all other settings but things became unstable with a RAS-CAS of 2 (which is what the manual says for EDO) but 3 works fine. Jim Leppek > From owner-freebsd-hackers@freefall.freebsd.org Tue Aug 13 07:24:31 1996 > Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 13:04:37 +0200 > From: Gunther Hipper > To: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, > freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Anyone Experiences with Intel TXC Chipset or GA-586DX/GA-586HX motherboard ?? > Cc: gunther@ceylon.informatik.uni-rostock.de > X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII > Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG > X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Hi to you all ! > > I've a certain problem because I would like to buy new > motherboards which should be albe to run FreeBSD. > The boards are > > Gigabyte GA-586HX and/or GA-586DX > > both (hopefully) state of the art ... but I don't yet > know any guy using them. The Chipset is an > > Intel TXC 82439HX Rev.01h > > in both boards. Until now, we always used Gigabyte boards > - everything works fine with GA-486DX and GA-486ATE > (Triton Chipset). Now my questions: > > Is anyone using one or both of these boards ? > Are there any problems or are certain problems to be > expected running FreeBSD ? > > Mention: I do _not_ explicitly care about SMP on the > GA-586DX Dual-CPU-Slot board. If it's running - okay, > but for the moment a single processor should be enough. > Propably, the board should be Intel-SMP conform. > This is an Intel chipset, hell, is'nt it ? > > I'd be glad if someone could give me some hints. > > Gunther > > Gunther Hipper | > University of Rostock | > Department of Computer Science | Tel +49 381 498 3391 > Albert-Einstein-Str. 21 | Fax +49 381 498 3440 > 18051 Rostock - Germany | Email Gunther.Hipper@informatik.uni-rostock.de > From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Aug 14 09:44:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA12873 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 09:44:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA12868; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 09:44:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA27532; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 10:44:20 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 10:44:20 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199608141644.KAA27532@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: me@tick.muc.ditec.de (Michael Elbel) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org, mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can somebody recommend a notebook? In-Reply-To: <199608141512.AAA03741@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> References: <199608141419.QAA21105@tick.muc.ditec.de> <199608141512.AAA03741@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [ I Cc'd the mobile list as well ] Michael Smith writes: > Michael Elbel stands accused of saying: > > > > I need to get a notebook here at work. Can anybody recommend something. > > Additionally, has anybody tried to install FreeBSD on one of the newer > > DIGITAL HiNote Notebooks? They do look good. > > I can strongly recomment the new Sharp PC9000 units; I've had one for > several months now and am very happy with it. Also, the newer NEC Versa 4000 models are *highly* regarded, and came out on top in a recent Dr. Dobbs article (above even the ThinkPads which I consider to be one of the best built laptops on the market). They are also known to work with FreeBSD in all respects, although I don't know if anyone has the newest model workin in 1024x768 mode. Mine works great at 800x600. I have the older model, but I have reports of people running FreeBSD on the newer models which have built-in CD, sound-card, APM, PCCARD, etc.. And, one more bonus is that I'm doing most of the laptop support, and my main box is a NEC Versa so you're almost guaranteed that FreeBSD will support the NEC first-thing. :) The only drawback is it's a heavy beast. Mine goes 9+ lbs., but if you're looking for a machine that can double as your desktop box (with an external keyboard and monitor) it can't be beat. Nate From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Aug 14 10:46:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA16916 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 10:46:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA16911; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 10:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ohm.merit.edu (ohm.merit.edu [198.108.60.65]) by merit.edu (8.7.5/merit-2.0) with ESMTP id NAA05128; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 13:46:16 -0400 (EDT) From: William Bulley Received: (web@localhost) by ohm.merit.edu (8.6.9/8.6.5) id NAA19236; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 13:56:42 -0400 Message-Id: <199608141756.NAA19236@ohm.merit.edu> Subject: Re: Can somebody recommend a notebook? To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 13:56:41 -0400 (EDT) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org, mobile@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199608141644.KAA27532@rocky.mt.sri.com> from "Nate Williams" at Aug 14, 96 10:44:20 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Nate Williams: > > > > I need to get a notebook here at work. Can anybody recommend something. > > > Additionally, has anybody tried to install FreeBSD on one of the newer > > > DIGITAL HiNote Notebooks? They do look good. > > > > I can strongly recomment the new Sharp PC9000 units; I've had one for > > several months now and am very happy with it. > > Also, the newer NEC Versa 4000 models are *highly* regarded, and came > out on top in a recent Dr. Dobbs article (above even the ThinkPads which > I consider to be one of the best built laptops on the market). They are > also known to work with FreeBSD in all respects, although I don't know > if anyone has the newest model workin in 1024x768 mode. Mine works > great at 800x600. > > I have the older model, but I have reports of people running FreeBSD on > the newer models which have built-in CD, sound-card, APM, PCCARD, etc.. > > And, one more bonus is that I'm doing most of the laptop support, and my > main box is a NEC Versa so you're almost guaranteed that FreeBSD will > support the NEC first-thing. :) > > The only drawback is it's a heavy beast. Mine goes 9+ lbs., but if > you're looking for a machine that can double as your desktop box (with > an external keyboard and monitor) it can't be beat. We have a GateWay 2000 Solo 90 which is a very nice unit. It is currently running 2.1REL because I haven't had time to upgrade... Regards, web... -- William Bulley, N8NXN Senior Systems Research Programmer Merit Network Inc. Domain: web@merit.edu 4251 Plymouth Road MaBell: (313) 764-9993 Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105-2785 Fax: (313) 747-3185 From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Aug 14 16:30:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA02783 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 16:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sole.hooked.net (sole.hooked.net [206.80.6.47]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA02756 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 16:29:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from s29.netgate.net (s29.netgate.net [205.214.175.29]) by sole.hooked.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA07598 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 16:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <321260FB.3504@netgate.net> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 16:27:55 -0700 From: Matt Clark X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b6 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Good MultiPort Card Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am planing to set up a Remote Access server, and was wondering what multiport card would be best. I need to have 32 lines running running. (Not concurrently). We were going to buy a Pentium 133 With 32 Megs Of Ram. Is this enough? Thanks for the help. --matt Clark From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Aug 14 23:20:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA10446 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 23:20:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhp.com (dhp.com [199.245.105.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA10400 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 1996 23:19:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jaeger@localhost) by dhp.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id CAA09456; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 02:19:07 -0400 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 02:19:06 -0400 (EDT) From: jaeger To: Michael Elbel cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can somebody recommend a notebook? In-Reply-To: <199608141419.QAA21105@tick.muc.ditec.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 14 Aug 1996, Michael Elbel wrote: > I need to get a notebook here at work. Can anybody recommend something. > Additionally, has anybody tried to install FreeBSD on one of the newer > DIGITAL HiNote Notebooks? They do look good. > Would you mean the Hinote Ultra/Ultra II subnotes or the full sized ones? I booted the boot floppy for 2.1.0 and 2.1.5 installs, and they seemed to detect and run everything okay, including the 3Com 3C589C. This was the slightly older Hinote Ultra (not the p5 equipped Ultra II). I never thought I could live with a subnote, but I was very pleased overall (haven't tried FreeBSD on it). The Ultra II has a 10.4" screen, the same as the full sized Winbook XP5 I had been favoring. The Ultra seems very solid, and I haven't had any problems (in stark contrast to Winbooks). The keyboard is quite nice considering the height savings. The biggest disadvantage I see so far is the lack of a swappable hard drive. Maybe this is corrected in the Ultra II? I recently saw a base Ultra advertised for $1600, and a RAM upgrade (to bring the total to the maximum 24, like mine) for around $269. This is of course the older model, but I consider it a good value if a compact notebook with a 486 is all you need. -jaeger > Michael > From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Aug 15 11:45:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA03557 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 11:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unlisys.unlisys.NET (unlisys.unlisys.net [194.64.15.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA03546 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 11:45:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by unlisys.unlisys.NET (Smail3.1.28.1 [@@]) id m0ur7QP-000acgC; Thu, 15 Aug 96 20:45 MET DST Received: by gerry (8.6.9/1.34) id JAA01769; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 09:50:28 +0200 From: tomz@gerry.snafu.de (Thomas Zaenker) Message-Id: <199608150750.JAA01769@gerry> Subject: subscribe tomz@berlin.snafu.de To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 09:50:27 -40962758 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk subscribe tomz@berlin.snafu.de -- Thomas Zaenker Tel. : +49 (030) 24720463 Krautstr. 27 Fax. : +49 (030) 24720464 10243 Berlin email: tomz@gerry.snafu.de Germany From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Aug 15 15:40:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA01440 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 15:40:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from solar.os.com (root@solar.os.com [199.232.136.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA01400 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 15:39:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jupiter.os.com (jupiter.os.com [199.232.136.162]) by solar.os.com (8.7/8.7.0) with SMTP id SAA21741 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 1996 18:46:29 -0400 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960815223631.0080f7a4@solar> X-Sender: craigs@solar X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 15 Aug 1996 18:36:31 -0400 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org From: Craig Shrimpton Subject: Urgent - what are these disk errors? Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm getting these disk errors and I'm not sure what they mean or what the proper fix is. This is a P100 running INN on 2.1.0 stable. Immediately after the errors, innd reports it can't write the history file. Thanks, Craig Aug 15 18:38:13 venus /kernel: sd3(bt0:5:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:145c29 asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error sks:8 Aug 15 18:38:13 venus /kernel: , retries:3 Aug 15 18:38:14 venus /kernel: sd3(bt0:5:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:145c29 asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error sks:8 Aug 15 18:38:14 venus /kernel: , retries:2 Aug 15 18:38:14 venus /kernel: sd3(bt0:5:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:145c29 asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error sks:8 Aug 15 18:38:14 venus /kernel: , retries:1 Aug 15 18:38:14 venus /kernel: sd3(bt0:5:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:145c29 asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error sks:8 Aug 15 18:38:14 venus /kernel: , FAILURE =================================================================== Orbit Internet Email: craigs@os.com 400 Grove Street Phone: (508) 753-8776 Worcester, MA 01605 http://www.os.com/ From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Aug 16 01:45:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA19427 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 01:45:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fgate.flevel.co.uk (root@fgate.flevel.co.uk [194.6.101.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA19409; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 01:45:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from graham@localhost) by fgate.flevel.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.9) id JAA26986; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 09:53:19 +0100 (BST) From: Graham Breach Message-Id: <199608160853.JAA26986@fgate.flevel.co.uk> Subject: Video capture & editing To: hardware@freebsd.org, multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 09:53:19 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know of any good quality video capture and editing hardware/software that functions under FreeBSD? Replies please to graham@flevel.co.uk. From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Aug 16 02:26:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA21672 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 02:26:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (root@mexico.brainstorm.eu.org [193.56.58.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA21663 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 02:26:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (brasil.brainstorm.eu.org [193.56.58.33]) by mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA02081 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 11:26:33 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id LAA00975 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 11:25:37 +0200 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.8.Alpha.7/keltia-uucp-2.9) id LAA23660; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 11:13:29 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199608160913.LAA23660@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 11:13:29 +0200 From: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Urgent - what are these disk errors? In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19960815223631.0080f7a4@solar>; from Craig Shrimpton on Aug 15, 1996 18:36:31 -0400 References: <1.5.4.32.19960815223631.0080f7a4@solar> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.39 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Craig Shrimpton: > I'm getting these disk errors and I'm not sure what they mean or what the > proper fix is. This is a P100 running INN on 2.1.0 stable. Immediately > after That means a sector can't be read on your disk. Try "scsi -f /dev/rsd3.ctl -m 1". You should have the first two parameters set to 1. If not, use "scsi -f /dev/rsd3.ctl -m 1 -P 3 -e" and change both of them to 1. From now, read and write errors will result in the sector mapped as bad and another one substitued. AWRE (Auto Write Reallocation Enbld): 1 ARRE (Auto Read Reallocation Enbld): 1 TB (Transfer Block): 0 RC (Read Continuous): 0 EER (Enable Early Recovery): 0 PER (Post Error): 0 DTE (Disable Transfer on Error): 0 DCR (Disable Correction): 0 Read Retry Count: 16 Correction Span: 22 Head Offset Count: 0 Data Strobe Offset Count: 0 Write Retry Count: 16 Recovery Time Limit: 0 -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #17: Fri Aug 2 20:40:17 MET DST 1996 From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Aug 16 13:35:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA14764 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 13:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA14749 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 13:35:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ap09324; 16 Aug 96 20:35 GMT Received: from longacre.demon.co.uk ([158.152.156.24]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa21318; 16 Aug 96 20:43 +0100 From: Michael Searle Message-ID: To: hardware@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCSI Drive recommendation References: <199608032143.VAA20165@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 20:40:04 BST X-Mailer: Offlite 0.09 / Termite Internet for Acorn RISC OS Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sean Kelly wrote: >>>>>> "Steve" == Steve Passe writes: >>> http://www.internet.net/cgi-bin/getNode?node=110404&product_id=36756 > Steve> Do they really mean this? > They really do. We got one of those a few months ago (it was $299 then) > at it works just fine. It's a bit loud, but tolerable. It doesn't even > run that hot, but I do have an extra cooling fan on it just in case. > Supposedly, the trouble with the DFRS drive is every 72 hours it shuts > down for a few seconds and then restarts. Now, I've never witnessed > this while FreeBSD was running, but it does happen when I boot into DOS > ever so often. > Anyway, I'm happy with it, and even happier with the price. I'm interested in this drive as well (It's half the price of other drives the same size, and faster than any other drive I've seen at 7.5ms average.) But ISN have stopped supplying it, and anyway they don't ship out of the USA. Does anyone know of another source for these drives? I've run the usual web searches, checked pricewatch and several similar indices, and found nothing. I would also like to know exactly what interface(s) it has - the info sheet says 'SCSI2', and gives the drive's actual peak transfer rate as 12MB/s but the actual transfer rate as 10MB/s, so it must use a 10MB/s interface which AFAIK could be either SCSI2-Fast or SCSI2-Wide. I would like to be able to use it with my NCR SCSI2-Fast controller. -- Michael Searle - searle@longacre.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Aug 16 13:57:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA17350 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 13:57:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwnexus.wa.com (nwnexus.wa.com [192.135.191.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA17344 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 13:57:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.statsci.com (ns1.statsci.com) by nwnexus.wa.com with SMTP id AA22574 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 16 Aug 1996 13:57:08 -0700 Received: from statsci.com [206.63.206.4] with smtp by main.statsci.com with smtp (/\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.3 #3) id m0urVx5-000QYDC; Fri, 16 Aug 96 13:57 PDT Message-Id: To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Minimal configuration for a home modem server/gateway? Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 13:57:06 -0700 From: Scott Blachowicz Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi- My wife keeps wanting to drag our "high powered" home PC into Windows land for her normal daily activities (unimportant things like DayTimer, calendar, Quicken, word processing, spreadsheets, games, and such :-)). At any rate, we get my email at home via UUCP from work using the PC in its FreeBSD personality...it'd be nice for my wife to be able to check her email without having to reboot the system and I'd like to dial in to work occasionally without having to leave Windows, so I was thinking it might be nice to have a low powered gateway system that just acts as a modem server. Plop samba and an IMAP/POP server on it and off we go. So, minimum qualifications would include the ability to drive one or maybe two modems at normal high speed (which I guess, these days, would mean 57.6K or 115.2K) and a cost that fairly closely approximates zero dollars. It would also need a cheap networking (I've got a combo [TP & coax] card in my current PC to hook up to or some sort of parallel/serial networking connection) so my current PC could talk to it. If I want to do this, my choices are to install NetBSD on an oldish Amiga or to scrounge an el-cheapo PC to put FreeBSD on. So my question for this list would be along the lines of what you would consider to be a minimal hardware configuration (386 or 486; RAM; disk space; whatever) for this kind of system. Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 Mathsoft (Data Analysis Products Div) 1700 Westlake Ave N #500 scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109 Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Aug 16 14:17:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA18678 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 14:17:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA18670 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 14:17:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA01528; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 14:15:16 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199608162115.OAA01528@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: SCSI Drive recommendation To: searle@longacre.demon.co.uk (Michael Searle) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 14:15:16 -0700 (PDT) Cc: hardware@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from Michael Searle at "Aug 16, 96 08:40:04 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Sean Kelly wrote: > > >>>>>> "Steve" == Steve Passe writes: > > >>> http://www.internet.net/cgi-bin/getNode?node=110404&product_id=36756 > > > Steve> Do they really mean this? > > > They really do. We got one of those a few months ago (it was $299 then) > > at it works just fine. It's a bit loud, but tolerable. It doesn't even > > run that hot, but I do have an extra cooling fan on it just in case. > > > Supposedly, the trouble with the DFRS drive is every 72 hours it shuts > > down for a few seconds and then restarts. Now, I've never witnessed > > this while FreeBSD was running, but it does happen when I boot into DOS > > ever so often. > > > Anyway, I'm happy with it, and even happier with the price. > > I'm interested in this drive as well (It's half the price of other drives > the same size, and faster than any other drive I've seen at 7.5ms average.) > But ISN have stopped supplying it, and anyway they don't ship out of the > USA. Buying ``basement bargins'' in the US and having them exported is not a great idea, shipping this 4 or 5 lbs to the UK would be about $75.00 in shipping fees, then you get to add your VAT and other taxes, your quickly looking at $500.00, which you could have spent at a local shop for a nice new drive... The counter part to AAC in the UK is: http://www.gnd.com You might give them a looking over... > Does anyone know of another source for these drives? I've run the usual web > searches, checked pricewatch and several similar indices, and found nothing. > I would also like to know exactly what interface(s) it has - the info sheet > says 'SCSI2', and gives the drive's actual peak transfer rate as 12MB/s but > the actual transfer rate as 10MB/s, so it must use a 10MB/s interface which > AFAIK could be either SCSI2-Fast or SCSI2-Wide. I would like to be able to > use it with my NCR SCSI2-Fast controller. > > -- > Michael Searle - searle@longacre.demon.co.uk > -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Aug 16 16:22:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA27360 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 16:22:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lugh.kerris.com (lugh.kerris.com [142.77.242.145]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA27355 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 16:22:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mkerr@localhost) by lugh.kerris.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA06934; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 19:21:52 -0400 Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 19:21:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Kerr To: Scott Blachowicz cc: freebsd-hardware@freeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Minimal configuration for a home modem server/gateway? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 16 Aug 1996, Scott Blachowicz wrote: > So, minimum qualifications would include the ability to drive one or maybe > two modems at normal high speed (which I guess, these days, would mean > 57.6K or 115.2K) and a cost that fairly closely approximates zero > dollars. It would also need a cheap networking (I've got a combo [TP & > > If I want to do this, my choices are to install NetBSD on an oldish Amiga > or to scrounge an el-cheapo PC to put FreeBSD on. So my question for this > list would be along the lines of what you would consider to be a minimal > hardware configuration (386 or 486; RAM; disk space; whatever) for this > kind of system. I am currently running a 386/40 with 8M RAM and a 200M hard drive. I am having no problems with mail, etc. With two modems stuck in it, then I'd imagine you'd have better performance than I. Running a POP server off it through an ethernet shouldn't put too much of a load on it. However, I'm not sure about how much of a resource hog Samba is. Mike. From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Aug 16 18:45:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA06660 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 18:45:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from trapdoor.dstc.edu.au (root@trapdoor.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA06648 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 1996 18:45:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from foxtail.dstc.edu.au (foxtail.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.14]) by trapdoor.dstc.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA25792; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 11:45:38 +1000 Received: (from leonard@localhost) by foxtail.dstc.edu.au (8.6.10/8.6.10) id LAA17478; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 11:45:38 +1000 From: David Leonard Message-Id: <199608170145.LAA17478@foxtail.dstc.edu.au> Subject: Re: Video capture & editing To: graham@fgate.flevel.co.uk Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 11:45:38 +1000 (EST) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Reply-To: leonard@dstc.edu.au X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In dstc.mail.freebsd.hardware you write: > Does anyone know of any good quality video capture and editing > hardware/software that functions under FreeBSD? > Replies please to graham@flevel.co.uk. and cc/summaries to hardware@freebsd.org too :) d -- David Leonard Project Officer, DSTC The University of Queensland david.leonard@dstc.edu.au http://www.dstc.edu.au/~leonard/ >> Distributed Solutions Event http://www.dstc.edu.au/events/dse96/ << From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Aug 17 04:29:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA19764 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 04:29:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [192.109.159.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA19759 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 04:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) id NAA27910 for hardware@freebsd.org; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 13:15:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by klemm.gtn.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA00496 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 13:24:09 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 13:24:09 +0200 (MET DST) From: Andreas Klemm To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: looking for not too noisy SCSI harddisks Message-ID: X-try-apsfilter: ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz X-Fax: +49 2137 2018 X-Phone: +49 2137 2020 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi ! I'm sick of my 4.3 GB Quantum Grand Prix ! The drive is too loud for a home environment. So what good 2 or 4 GB drives that fit into a exchangeable case with a fan could you suggest ?! What about IBM DORS 2160MB 9/512/5400 IBM DFRS 2255MB 7/512/7200 IBM DFHS 2255MB 7/512/7200 Whats the difference between the DFRS and the DFHS drive ?! What about the Wide scsi versions ?! Does it make a big difference in 'make worlds' or is processor power more valuable ?! IBM DFRS-W 2255 7/512/7200 IBM DFHS-W 2255 7/512/7200 Andreas /// andreas@klemm.gtn.com /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ Support Unix -- andreas.klemm@wup.de pgp p-key http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html >>> powered by <<< ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz >>> FreeBSD <<< From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Aug 17 10:03:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA04348 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 10:03:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from everest.dtr.com (livdial19.fta.com [205.139.102.213]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA04324 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 10:01:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmk@localhost) by everest.dtr.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA00800; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 09:55:51 -0700 Message-Id: <199608171655.JAA00800@everest.dtr.com> Subject: Re: Minimal configuration for a home modem server/gateway? To: scott@statsci.com (Scott Blachowicz) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 09:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Scott Blachowicz" at Aug 16, 96 01:57:06 pm From: "Brant M. Katkansky" Reply-To: bmk@fta.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > So, minimum qualifications would include the ability to drive one or maybe > two modems at normal high speed (which I guess, these days, would mean > 57.6K or 115.2K) and a cost that fairly closely approximates zero > dollars. It would also need a cheap networking (I've got a combo [TP & > coax] card in my current PC to hook up to or some sort of parallel/serial > networking connection) so my current PC could talk to it. > If I want to do this, my choices are to install NetBSD on an oldish Amiga > or to scrounge an el-cheapo PC to put FreeBSD on. So my question for this > list would be along the lines of what you would consider to be a minimal > hardware configuration (386 or 486; RAM; disk space; whatever) for this > kind of system. I used a 386DX-25 with 8MB RAM and a 120MB disk for almost exactly the same purposes until the motherboard died. You should be able to get a cheap ethernet card for next to nothing. I found the configuration to be adequate for the job. I would imagine that nowadays you could put together such a machine for pretty close to zero dollars. From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Aug 17 10:14:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA04766 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 10:14:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA04761 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 10:14:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ap25589; 17 Aug 96 18:13 +0100 Received: from longacre.demon.co.uk ([158.152.156.24]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa17938; 17 Aug 96 16:29 +0100 From: Michael Searle Message-ID: To: hardware@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCSI Drive recommendation References: <199608162115.OAA01528@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 16:24:30 BST X-Mailer: Offlite 0.09 / Termite Internet for Acorn RISC OS Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: >> Sean Kelly wrote: >>>>>>>> "Steve" == Steve Passe writes: >>>>> http://www.internet.net/cgi-bin/getNode?node=110404&product_id=36756 >>> Steve> Do they really mean this? They really do. We got one of those >>> a few months ago (it was $299 then) at it works just fine. It's a bit >>> loud, but tolerable. It doesn't even run that hot, but I do have an >>> extra cooling fan on it just in case. Supposedly, the trouble with the >>> DFRS drive is every 72 hours it shuts down for a few seconds and then >>> restarts. Now, I've never witnessed this while FreeBSD was running, >>> but it does happen when I boot into DOS ever so often. Anyway, I'm >>> happy with it, and even happier with the price. >> I'm interested in this drive as well (It's half the price of other >> drives the same size, and faster than any other drive I've seen at >> 7.5ms average.) But ISN have stopped supplying it, and anyway they >> don't ship out of the USA. > Buying ``basement bargins'' in the US and having them exported is not a > great idea, shipping this 4 or 5 lbs to the UK would be about $75.00 in > shipping fees, then you get to add your VAT and other taxes, your > quickly looking at $500.00, which you could have spent at a local shop > for a nice new drive... > The counter part to AAC in the UK is: http://www.gnd.com > You might give them a looking over... I had a look, for drives (IDE and SCSI) they are more expensive than standard mail order prices in PC magazines. Does anyone know of any way of finding a UK supplier of Sequel 2.25's? Something like pricewatch, etc., but they mostly list US suppliers. I didn't know it was that expensive exporting drives. Thanks, Michael. -- Michael Searle - searle@longacre.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Aug 17 15:44:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA26528 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 15:44:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pegasus.com (pegasus.com [140.174.243.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA26518 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 15:44:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pegasus.com (8.6.8/PEGASUS-2.2) id MAA04221; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 12:43:43 -1001 Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 12:43:43 -1001 From: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) Message-Id: <199608172244.MAA04221@pegasus.com> In-Reply-To: Michael Searle "Re: SCSI Drive recommendation" (Aug 17, 4:24pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: Michael Searle , hardware@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCSI Drive recommendation Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk } } Does anyone know of any way of finding a UK supplier of Sequel 2.25's? } Something like pricewatch, etc., but they mostly list US suppliers. I didn't } know it was that expensive exporting drives. } The only place I've seen now that sells the Sequels drives is at this URL: http://www.disk911.com/hotdeal.html (the price is $450). I don't know if they'll export. Richard From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Aug 17 16:01:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA27302 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 16:01:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from circle.net (demeter.circle.net [207.79.160.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA27296 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 16:01:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from troy@localhost) by circle.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA25322; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 19:00:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 19:00:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Troy Arie Cobb To: hardware@freebsd.org cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Any RAID support anywhere? In-Reply-To: <199608132119.RAA05079@charlotte.spiders.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just spoke with DPT tech support, who very rudely informed me that THEY had no plans for a FreeBSD driver for their cacheing raid controller. They have one for BSDI, though. So, that leads me to this question: is there ANY RAID controller card that is supported by FreeBSD? Even one that "pretends" to be a regular SCSI and combines the disks under one SCSI-ID is fine, so long as it doesn't require me to go buy a proprietary machine (like Compaq), ugh. I'm putting together a kick-ass NFS server and RAID 5 is a must-have for this. Any pointers, comments, suggestions would be much appreciated. - troy Troy Arie Cobb troy@circle.net ------------------------------------------------------ | Circle Net, Inc. | global internet access | | http://www.circle.net | for western north carolina | | info@circle.net | and beyond... | | 704-254-9500 | | ------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Aug 17 19:41:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA08143 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 19:41:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from plains.nodak.edu (tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA08128 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 19:41:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by plains.nodak.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA22981; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 21:40:51 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 21:40:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <199608180240.VAA22981@plains.nodak.edu> To: graham@fgate.flevel.co.uk, leonard@dstc.edu.au Subject: Re: Video capture & editing Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I imagine he is asking for movie capture hardware and editing and to that I would say no, especially if you are looking for broadcast quality (MPEG-2) captures. If you are looking for video frame or MBONE video, or multiple frame sequences to software convert to movie format (using a software MPEG-1 conversion programs) then the answer is yes. for information see: http://www.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu/~tinguely/mbone-freebsd/video.html and A. Hasty's web site on rah.star-gate.com a long term goal is to get a MPEG-2 capture boards supported when they come down in price and companies are willing to give out specs. (most likely the MPEG-2 chipset companies will be the ones that will release any information. --mark. From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Aug 17 20:13:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA09868 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 20:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Gatekeeper.Lamb.net (root@Gatekeeper.Lamb.net [206.169.44.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA09862 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 20:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ulf@localhost) by Gatekeeper.Lamb.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA17470; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 20:13:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Ulf Zimmermann Message-Id: <199608180313.UAA17470@Gatekeeper.Lamb.net> Subject: Re: Any RAID support anywhere? To: troy@circle.net (Troy Arie Cobb) Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 20:13:26 -0700 (PDT) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from Troy Arie Cobb at "Aug 17, 96 07:00:17 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I just spoke with DPT tech support, who very rudely > informed me that THEY had no plans for a FreeBSD driver > for their cacheing raid controller. They have one for > BSDI, though. And as far I remember, they released that BSDI source code. And someone is working on porting it. Maybe look in the list archives > > So, that leads me to this question: is there ANY RAID > controller card that is supported by FreeBSD? Even one > that "pretends" to be a regular SCSI and combines the disks > under one SCSI-ID is fine, so long as it doesn't require me > to go buy a proprietary machine (like Compaq), ugh. I would suggest to look into a SCSI2SCSI Raid solution, like Mylex, CDC and others have it. You are then totaly indepent. > > I'm putting together a kick-ass NFS server and RAID 5 is a > must-have for this. Any pointers, comments, suggestions would > be much appreciated. > > > - troy > > Troy Arie Cobb > troy@circle.net > > ------------------------------------------------------ > | Circle Net, Inc. | global internet access | > | http://www.circle.net | for western north carolina | > | info@circle.net | and beyond... | > | 704-254-9500 | | > ------------------------------------------------------ Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-865-0204 Lamb Art Internet Services || http://www.Lamb.net/ From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Aug 17 20:51:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA13095 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 20:51:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA13090 for ; Sat, 17 Aug 1996 20:51:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA06567; Sun, 18 Aug 1996 13:41:08 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199608180411.NAA06567@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Any RAID support anywhere? To: troy@circle.net Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 13:41:07 +0930 (CST) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199608180313.UAA17470@Gatekeeper.Lamb.net> from "Ulf Zimmermann" at Aug 17, 96 08:13:26 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > I'm putting together a kick-ass NFS server and RAID 5 is a > > must-have for this. Any pointers, comments, suggestions would > > be much appreciated. If all the machine is going to be is an NFS server, go see www.netapp.com. If you need more than that, then Ulf's suggestion of a standalone RAID controller is definitely the way to go. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. 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