From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Dec 15 10:40:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA19620 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 10:40:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA19580; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 10:40:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from suntan.tandem.com (suntan.tandem.com [192.216.221.8]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with SMTP id KAA24472 ; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 10:34:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from papillon.lemis.de by suntan.tandem.com (8.6.12/suntan5.961027) id KAA27740; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 10:34:43 -0800 From: Greg Lehey Received: (grog@localhost) by papillon.lemis.de (8.8.4/8.6.12) id IAA00340; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 08:23:55 -0800 (PST) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Message-Id: <199612151623.IAA00340@papillon.lemis.de> Subject: Any experience with the Archive 4586 and 4584 DDS changers? To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org (FreeBSD hardware Users), questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Questions) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 08:23:55 -0800 (PST) Reply-to: grog@freebsd.org (Greg Lehey) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm currently in Cupertino, and yesterday I visited the Disk Drive Depot at 500 Lawrence in Sunnyvale (where I met a salesman who seemed to know what he was selling :-). They have some Archive DDS tape changers there. Briefly: Archive 4584 NPR, DDS-1 with compression, 4 tapes, 16 GB total, $449 Archive 4586 NP, DDS-2 with compression, 4 tapes, 32 GB total, $695 Both of these units were discontinued before the Conner/Seagate takeover, and were built in 1995, but they're unused. They take up a full-height 5 1/4" slot. A 12 tape cartridge is also available for $99. My questions: Has anybody used these devices? War stories? Does anybody know how to address these tapes? I'm would expect that they are addressed by LUNs, but that doesn't explain how the 12 tape cartridge works. The salesman offered me a 15 day return, but that doesn't help me much, since I need to take the thing back to Germany to test it. I suppose if somebody round here were interested, and could let me try it out in his machine, that could be an interesting solution for both of us. Greg From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Dec 15 14:40:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA08951 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 14:40:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeus (zeus.gel.usherb.ca [132.210.70.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA08914; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 14:40:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from pollux.gel.usherb.ca by zeus (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22779; Sun, 15 Dec 96 17:40:01 EST Received: by pollux.gel.usherb.ca (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA09845; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 17:39:52 -0500 Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 17:39:52 -0500 (EST) From: "Alex.Boisvert" To: "Brian T. Schellenberger - Personal Account" Cc: FreeBSD Hardware , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Zip drive In-Reply-To: <199612140149.UAA07097@mercury.interpath.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > In fact, after detecting the ppa0 device, it locks up > (but only if the drive is in fact on--if it's powered off or disconnected, > I get a "probe failed" message and the boot continues). > I am using the same driver with an Epson ZIP drive (same drive as Iomega but manufactured by Epson). I had to remove some of the detecting code because it was not seeing the drive. I also patched the driver to work with 2.2-ALPHA. Works like a charm. Alex. PS: If you need my source, just ask. From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Dec 15 18:19:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id SAA01016 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 18:19:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id SAA00999; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 18:19:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.2/8.7.3) id MAA19290; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 12:47:32 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199612160217.MAA19290@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Zip drive In-Reply-To: from "Alex.Boisvert" at "Dec 15, 96 05:39:52 pm" To: boia01@pollux.GEL.USherb.CA (Alex.Boisvert) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 12:47:31 +1030 (CST) Cc: babbleon@mercury.interpath.com, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Alex.Boisvert stands accused of saying: > I am using the same driver with an Epson ZIP drive (same drive as Iomega > but manufactured by Epson). I had to remove some of the detecting code > because it was not seeing the drive. > > I also patched the driver to work with 2.2-ALPHA. > > Works like a charm. > Alex. > > PS: If you need my source, just ask. If we can reach some consensus on what works and what doesn't for this driver, I'll get it committed to -current so that it gets wider distribution and testing. Alex, I'd obviously like your code - and anyone else that's using it, please send me your diffs from the original. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Dec 16 09:00:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA17387 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:00:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from seraph.wspout.com (seraph.wspout.com [206.230.5.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA17382 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:00:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from csg@localhost) by seraph.wspout.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA00450 for hardware@freefall.freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 12:00:13 -0500 (EST) From: "C. Stephen Gunn" Message-Id: <199612161700.MAA00450@seraph.wspout.com> Subject: QuickTech P55TU Motherboard Problems To: hardware@freefall.freebsd.org Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 12:00:13 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Howdy ! Are there any known problems with the IWill/QuickTech P55TU motherboard and FreeBSD 2.1.6-RELEASE. I seem to be crashing a good bit, especially if I put a significant load on the machine. Here's the config, in case you're interested. - Quicktech P55TU Motherboard using Regular SCSI-2 - Cyrix 686 P133+ - 3 IBM SCSI-2 Drives, two striped using ccd - 64Mb of 60NS EDO Ram - SMC EtherPower 10/100 (Tulip Based) I suspect the RAM of being flakey, but have slowed down the cache timings, and the RAM timing to 70ns to no avail. (the crashes get more infrequent, but they still happen). Any help or experience is greatly appreciated. - Steve -- C. Stephen Gunn csg@wspout.com WaterSpout Communications, Inc (317)-743-1053 From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Dec 16 14:20:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA08472 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 14:20:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from persprog.com (persprog.com [204.215.255.203]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id OAA08463 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 14:20:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by persprog.com (8.7.5/4.10) id QAA15078; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 16:58:47 -0500 Received: from dasa(192.2.2.199) by cerberus.ppi.com via smap (V1.3) id smasf4692; Mon Dec 16 16:55:48 1996 Received: from DASA/SpoolDir by dasa.ppi.com (Mercury 1.21); 16 Dec 96 16:56:53 +0500 Received: from SpoolDir by DASA (Mercury 1.30); 16 Dec 96 14:38:48 +0500 From: "David Alderman" Organization: Personalized Programming, Inc To: "C. Stephen Gunn" , hardware@freefall.freebsd.org Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 14:38:39 +0500 Subject: Re: QuickTech P55TU Motherboard Problems Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-ID: <55CD944127F@dasa.ppi.com> Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > From: "C. Stephen Gunn" > Are there any known problems with the IWill/QuickTech P55TU motherboard > and FreeBSD 2.1.6-RELEASE. I seem to be crashing a good bit, especially if > I put a significant load on the machine. Here's the config, in case > you're interested. > > - Quicktech P55TU Motherboard using Regular SCSI-2 > - Cyrix 686 P133+ > - 3 IBM SCSI-2 Drives, two striped using ccd > - 64Mb of 60NS EDO Ram > - SMC EtherPower 10/100 (Tulip Based) > > I suspect the RAM of being flakey, but have slowed down the cache > timings, and the RAM timing to 70ns to no avail. (the crashes get more > infrequent, but they still happen). > > You might want to suspect your motherboard. If this is a well known brand that I just don't know about, then maybe it's fine, but off-brand motherboards can cause all kinds of flakey timing problems that are very hard to nail down, even if they use the same chipset as a better designed board. If you look on an Asus or other reputable manufacturer, you will see "wavy traces" on some lines to correct for small timing errors. The quality of the BIOS is generally better as well. With a Cyrix processor in particular, the quality of the motherboard is a critical issue since the Cyrix seems to be more sensitive to board timings. I am not saying your board is the culprit - but if they are a small manufacturer the possibility of board problems should not be discounted. Good luck! ====================================== When philosophy conflicts with reality, choose reality. Dave Alderman -- dave@persprog.com ====================================== From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Dec 16 17:05:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA21245 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 17:05:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id RAA21230 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 17:05:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.2/8.7.3) id LAA23738; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 11:34:53 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199612170104.LAA23738@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: QuickTech P55TU Motherboard Problems In-Reply-To: <199612161700.MAA00450@seraph.wspout.com> from "C. Stephen Gunn" at "Dec 16, 96 12:00:13 pm" To: csg@seraph.wspout.com (C. Stephen Gunn) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 11:34:52 +1030 (CST) Cc: hardware@freefall.freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk C. Stephen Gunn stands accused of saying: > > I suspect the RAM of being flakey, but have slowed down the cache > timings, and the RAM timing to 70ns to no avail. (the crashes get more > infrequent, but they still happen). This does indeed sound like memory problems. It's of course possible that it's something else, but memory is definitely where I'd start. > - Steve -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Dec 16 18:11:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id SAA25312 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 18:11:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from pegasus.com (pegasus.com [140.174.243.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id SAA25302 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 18:11:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by pegasus.com (8.6.8/PEGASUS-2.2) id QAA19602; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 16:11:27 -1000 Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 16:11:27 -1000 From: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) Message-Id: <199612170211.QAA19602@pegasus.com> In-Reply-To: Michael Smith "Re: QuickTech P55TU Motherboard Problems" (Dec 17, 11:34am) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: hardware@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: QuickTech P55TU Motherboard Problems Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk } > I suspect the RAM of being flakey, but have slowed down the cache } > timings, and the RAM timing to 70ns to no avail. (the crashes get more } > infrequent, but they still happen). } } This does indeed sound like memory problems. It's of course possible } that it's something else, but memory is definitely where I'd start. } One of the features of non-parity RAM, not knowing if it's at fault or not ... From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Dec 16 18:57:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id SAA16508 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 18:57:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id SAA16468 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 18:57:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.2/8.7.3) id NAA24416; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 13:26:21 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199612170256.NAA24416@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: QuickTech P55TU Motherboard Problems In-Reply-To: <199612170211.QAA19602@pegasus.com> from Richard Foulk at "Dec 16, 96 04:11:27 pm" To: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 13:26:20 +1030 (CST) Cc: hardware@freefall.freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Richard Foulk stands accused of saying: > } > I suspect the RAM of being flakey, but have slowed down the cache > } > timings, and the RAM timing to 70ns to no avail. (the crashes get more > } > infrequent, but they still happen). > } > } This does indeed sound like memory problems. It's of course possible > } that it's something else, but memory is definitely where I'd start. > } > > One of the features of non-parity RAM, not knowing if it's at fault > or not ... Would that it were that simple. But it's not. All that parity will tell you is that something in the memory subsystem is busted, but that's already obvious from the symptoms. Parity RAM is not a cure for the common cold. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 17 01:49:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id BAA11725 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 01:49:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from kremvax.demos.su (kremvax.demos.su [194.87.0.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id BAA11693; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 01:49:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by kremvax.demos.su (8.6.13/D) from 0@megillah.demos.su [194.87.0.21] with ESMTP id MAA27396; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 12:45:16 +0300 Received: by megillah.demos.su id MAA03416; (8.8.3/D) Tue, 17 Dec 1996 12:44:52 +0300 (MSK) Message-Id: <199612170944.MAA03416@megillah.demos.su> Subject: Seagate Barracuda 9 (11/9) gb specs? To: freebsd-quiestions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 12:44:52 +0300 (MSK) From: "Mikhail A. Sokolov" X-Class: Fast Organization: Demos Company, Ltd. Reply-To: mishania@demos.su X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME7a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I wonder if someone can help me with the following. I have Seagate UW SCSI Barracuda 9 9gb (11 unformatted) drive to rape. Since it's pretty new one, I've been checking it with 2.1.5/2.1.6/2.2-alpha/3.0-current, it works. (Ehm, now installing 2.1.0r, just to test ;-)) The only problem is that when using default geometry, I lack some 400/500mb, i.e. only 8600+mb seen, see dmesg data at the end. The question finally is: can any of you name the geometry of it and is it ok that this disk is seen it's 9gb unformatted, and 8,6+ formatted? Thanks for any hints, besides www.seagate.com, - they have nothing there. -mishania ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 10 on pci0:12 ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (ahc0:0:0): "SEAGATE ST19171W 0018" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 8683MB (17783112 512 byte sectors) From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 17 03:59:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id DAA17912 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 03:59:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from tfs.com (tfs.com [140.145.250.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id DAA17907; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 03:58:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter.tfs.com by tfs.com (smail3.1.28.1) with SMTP id m0vZy9S-0003vuC; Tue, 17 Dec 96 03:57 PST Received: from critter.tfs.com (localhost.phk.dk [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id NAA15425; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 13:01:16 +0100 (MET) To: mishania@demos.su cc: freebsd-quiestions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 9 (11/9) gb specs? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 17 Dec 1996 12:44:52 +0300." <199612170944.MAA03416@megillah.demos.su> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 13:01:15 +0100 Message-ID: <15423.850824075@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199612170944.MAA03416@megillah.demos.su>, "Mikhail A. Sokolov" writ es: >Hello, > >I wonder if someone can help me with the following. I have Seagate UW SCSI >Barracuda 9 9gb (11 unformatted) drive to rape. > >The question finally is: can any of you name the geometry of it and >is it ok that this disk is seen it's 9gb unformatted, and 8,6+ formatted? Remember that a Megabyte according to diskmanufacturers are 1000000 bytes, so 17783112*512/1000000 = 9104 MB. A modern SCSI disk doesn't have a "geometry", it's best to think of it as a linear array of sectors. Your SCSI controller has to come up with a geometry anyway because MSDOS is not a "modern OS". In this case I would guess that this pseudo geometry will be something like 1106 cylinders, 255 heads, 63 sectors. Unless this is your boot disk, there is no problem with this. If you intend to boot from it you have to read the docs carefully. Remember to make a backup copy, this will only take 6174 floppies, which mean that you should be able to do it in a couple of weeks or so :-) >ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 10 on pci0:12 >ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs >ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle >(ahc0:0:0): "SEAGATE ST19171W 0018" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 >sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 8683MB (17783112 512 byte sectors) -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Power and ignorance is a disgusting cocktail. From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 17 05:44:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id FAA24124 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 05:44:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.166.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id FAA24110; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 05:44:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (annexr2-39.slip.Uni-Koeln.DE) by Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE with SMTP id AA13787 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Tue, 17 Dec 1996 14:44:13 +0100 Received: (from se@localhost) by x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (8.8.4/8.6.9) id NAA00713; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 13:15:50 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 13:14:30 +0100 From: se@FreeBSD.ORG (Stefan Esser) To: mishania@demos.su Cc: freebsd-quiestions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 9 (11/9) gb specs? References: <199612170944.MAA03416@megillah.demos.su> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.53 Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199612170944.MAA03416@megillah.demos.su>; from Mikhail A. Sokolov on Dec 17, 1996 12:44:52 +0300 Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Dec 17, mishania@demos.su (Mikhail A. Sokolov) wrote: > Hello, > > I wonder if someone can help me with the following. I have Seagate UW SCSI > Barracuda 9 9gb (11 unformatted) drive to rape. Since it's pretty new one, > I've been checking it with 2.1.5/2.1.6/2.2-alpha/3.0-current, it works. > (Ehm, now installing 2.1.0r, just to test ;-)) > The only problem is that when using default geometry, I lack some > 400/500mb, i.e. only 8600+mb seen, see dmesg data at the end. Hmmm, 8683*1024*1024 = 9.105 * 10^9 ... Seagate gives the drive capacity in Million bytes, as just about everybody in the disk drive business does, but FreeBSD prints the capacity in MByte (2^20) units. > The question finally is: can any of you name the geometry of it and > is it ok that this disk is seen it's 9gb unformatted, and 8,6+ formatted? The drive really has some 11GB unformatted capacity, and 9GB formatted, using decimal units. It is typical to loose some 20% for intersector gaps, which may contain servo information, but are required to allow for variations in rotational speed, and for activating and deactivating the write head, too. It is common to use decimal MB for capacities, but for (some) data rates, too. For example, a 10MB/s FAST SCSI bus is limited to 9.5*1024*1024 bytes, since it actually operates at 10MHz. (The same is true of EIDE speed specifications, BTW :) > ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 10 on pci0:12 > ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs > ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle > (ahc0:0:0): "SEAGATE ST19171W 0018" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 > sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 8683MB (17783112 512 byte sectors) Nice drive! Would love to have one :) Regards, STefan From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 17 07:26:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id HAA28899 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 07:26:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeus.xtalwind.net (pa3dsp10.x31.infi.net [206.27.115.82]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id HAA28889; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 07:26:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zeus.xtalwind.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA05204; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 10:26:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 10:26:53 -0500 (EST) From: jack X-Sender: jack@localhost To: "Mikhail A. Sokolov" cc: freebsd-quiestions@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Seagate Barracuda 9 (11/9) gb specs? In-Reply-To: <199612170944.MAA03416@megillah.demos.su> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 17 Dec 1996, Mikhail A. Sokolov wrote: > I wonder if someone can help me with the following. I have Seagate UW SCSI > Barracuda 9 9gb (11 unformatted) drive to rape. Since it's pretty new one, > I've been checking it with 2.1.5/2.1.6/2.2-alpha/3.0-current, it works. > (Ehm, now installing 2.1.0r, just to test ;-)) > The only problem is that when using default geometry, I lack some > 400/500mb, i.e. only 8600+mb seen, see dmesg data at the end. > > The question finally is: can any of you name the geometry of it and > is it ok that this disk is seen it's 9gb unformatted, and 8,6+ formatted? It's all seen, you've just run into the drive manufacturer's marketing hype. While the rest of the industry considers 1,048,576 bytes a megabyte the drive industry calls 1,000,000 bytes a megabyte. Their gigabytes are 73741824 bytes less than everyone else's. :( > sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 8683MB (17783112 512 byte sectors) 17783112 * 512 = 9104953344 A 9.1 gig by their standards. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Finger jacko@diamond.xtalwind.net or jack@xtalwind.net http://www.xtalwind.net/~jacko/pubpgp.html #include for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 17 07:56:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id HAA00904 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 07:56:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from shell.monmouth.com (root@shell.monmouth.com [205.164.220.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id HAA00897 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 07:56:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from tech4.monmouth.com (tech4.monmouth.com [206.250.247.5]) by shell.monmouth.com (8.8.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA03166 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 10:49:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199612171549.KAA03166@shell.monmouth.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Matthew Feinberg" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 10:57:36 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Panasonic CD-ROM Reply-to: matt@monmouth.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42) Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Just got 2.1.5 from CDROM.COM. I have a Panasonic CD (yes the correct drive CR-562) on a Soundblaster 16 card. I have tried the -c option and changed to 220 and 210 without success. The Book also states to change the i/o to -1. I can't figure out how to do that. Any other Ideas other than a DOS Install (I only have 20 MB free) Matthew Feinberg Monmouth Internet Customer Service 908-224-8624 mailto:matt@monmouth.com http://www.monmouth.com From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 17 08:04:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id IAA01611 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 08:04:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from tibet.stepnet.com ([206.14.120.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id IAA01561; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 08:04:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ping@localhost) by tibet.stepnet.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) id IAA12833; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 08:04:19 -0800 (PST) From: Ping Mai Message-Id: <199612171604.IAA12833@tibet.stepnet.com> Subject: HELP: dump to EXB-8700 tape drive hangs freebsd To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 08:04:19 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I posted this to freebsd-questions last Saturday but no one answered. I guess I'll try hardware and scsi. Please excuse me if this is not appropriate. I was using dump to backup to a Exabyte 8700 (actually a 8505) 8mm tape drive hanging off a Adaptec 1510 when the system hung. I could not get any response from the console. I could ping the box but could not login from telnet. The command I used was: dump 0ubBf 128 14000000 /dev/nrst0 /mnt/u0 >>& log /mnt/u0 is a 1.5G partition. Running the same command earlier on smaller filesystems had no problem. info on tape host: Script started on Sat Dec 14 21:22:43 1996 dmes[501]ping@red:~> dmesg FreeBSD 2.2-960801-SNAP #0: Fri Oct 4 19:07:19 PDT 1996 ping@red.stepnet.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/RED Calibrating clock(s) relative to mc146818A clock... i8254 clock: 1193901 Hz CPU: i486 DX2 (486-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x435 Stepping=5 Features=0x3 real memory = 25165824 (24576K bytes) avail memory = 22560768 (22032K bytes) ahc0: at 0x1c00-0x1cff irq 11 on isa ahc0: aic7770 >= Rev E, Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 4 SCBs ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (ahc0:0:0): "HP C3325A 5020" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 2069MB (4238836 512 byte sectors) (ahc0:6:0): "TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-3601TA 0725" type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0(ahc0:6:0): CD-ROM cd0(ahc0:6:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0 Medium not present can't get the size Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 at 0x280-0x29f irq 9 on isa ed0: address 00:20:18:30:4d:08, type NE2000 (16 bit) ed1 at 0x300-0x31f irq 10 on isa ed1: address 00:00:e8:c2:a7:fd, type NE2000 (16 bit) sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in fd1: 1.2MB 5.25in ft0: Archive tape wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 329MB (675450 sectors), 790 cyls, 15 heads, 57 S/T, 512 B/S aic0 at 0x340-0x35f irq 12 on isa aic0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (aic0:2:0): "EXABYTE EXB-8505 0040" type 1 removable SCSI 2 st0(aic0:2:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x0, drive empty npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface [502]ping@red:~> mt -t /dev/nrst0 status Present Mode: Density = 0x00 Blocksize variable ---------available modes--------- Mode 0: Density = 0x00 Blocksize variable Mode 1: Density = X3.136-1986 Blocksize = 512 bytes Mode 2: Density = X3.39-1986 Blocksize variable Mode 3: Density = X3.54-1986 Blocksize variable [503]ping@red:~> ls -l /dev/nrst0 crw-rw---- 2 root operator 14, 1 Dec 14 21:02 /dev/nrst0 [504]ping@red:~> exit exit Script done on Sat Dec 14 21:23:11 1996 Thanks in advance for anyone's help! From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 17 09:29:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA08205 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 09:29:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from tpts1.seed.net.tw (tpts1.seed.net.tw [139.175.1.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA08200 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 09:29:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by tpts1.seed.net.tw (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id BAA24094; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 01:28:46 +0800 From: ruey@tpts1.seed.net.tw (PC_user) Message-Id: <199612171728.BAA24094@tpts1.seed.net.tw> Subject: TekrAm DC-390F scsi card To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 01:28:45 +14835 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm trying to get my TekrAm DC-390F (ncr53c875) work under FreeBSD. But I always get the following message while booting Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0 rev 1 on pci0:5 de0 rev 17 int a irq 9 on pci0:10 de0: 21041 [10Mb/s] pass 1.1 de0: address 00:80:c8:34:93:bd vga0 rev 6 int a irq 9 on pci0:11 ncr0 rev 1 int a irq 10 on pci0:12 CACHE TEST FAILED: reg dstat-sstat2 readback ffffffff. CACHE INCORRECTLY CONFIGURED. Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard ... and the system cannot detect any scsi device. Please tell me how to fix this problem. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 17 10:37:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA11186 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 10:37:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from palrel1.hp.com (palrel1.hp.com [15.253.72.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA11181 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 10:37:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from hpwrc716.mayfield.hp.com (ews156.mayfield.hp.com [15.3.26.156]) by palrel1.hp.com with ESMTP (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA21051; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 10:37:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199612171837.KAA21051@palrel1.hp.com> Received: by hpwrc716.mayfield.hp.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA250137879; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 10:37:59 -0800 From: Ping Mai (Contractor) Subject: Re: EDO parit RAM (Was Re: Tyan ...) To: jonas@Mcs.Net (Lars Jonas Olsson) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 10:37:58 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199612111523.JAA05419@Mercury.mcs.net> from "Lars Jonas Olsson" at Dec 11, 96 09:23:09 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Note that there are two kinds of EDO parity RAM. One works both in > parity and ECC mode and the other only in ECC mode. I first bought EDO > parity RAM from Micron that only worked in ECC mode (Have to write all > 4 parity bits at once). I then found EDO parity RAM from Samsung that > works in regular parity mode. The type I buy is 32MB 60 ns, 72 pin, > gold leads, p/n KMM5368105BKG-6 they are sort of expensive though at > $280. > > Jonas > What's wrong with ECC mode only memory? Where can you find parity and ECC mode stuff? Please enlighten me. Thanks, ping From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 17 11:28:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA12997 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 11:28:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from seabass.progroup.com (catfish.progroup.com [206.24.122.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA12978 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 11:27:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from craig@localhost) by seabass.progroup.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id LAA08909 for hardware@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 11:24:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199612171924.LAA08909@seabass.progroup.com> Subject: Re: TekrAm DC-390F scsi card To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 11:24:55 -0800 (PST) From: "Craig Shaver" In-Reply-To: <199612171728.BAA24094@tpts1.seed.net.tw> from "PC_user" at Dec 18, 96 01:28:45 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Hi, > > I'm trying to get my TekrAm DC-390F (ncr53c875) work under FreeBSD. But > I always get the following message while booting I am running one of these on 2.1.5R. I used the floppies and patches from the Tekram ftp site to install the generic kernel and then rebuild it after I did the patches. I did get a small patch from Stefan, who works on the ncr.c code. It works pretty good so far. I am using an ASUS t2 mother board. > del ... > ncr0 rev 1 int a irq 10 on pci0:12 del .... > > and the system cannot detect any scsi device. > Please tell me how to fix this problem. It looks like it found the Tekram. Have you tried to use it with plain old dos or windog? I did that just to make sure the drives I had were good and that the board sees them. Did you get a message about the drives during bios boot up? The Tekram board should spit out something. Mine does. > > Thanks. > > We may want to move this over to scsi@freebsd.org on the next turnaround.... I think Stefan lives over there, and he is very savvy about these things. -- Craig Shaver (craig@progroup.com) (415)390-0654 Productivity Group POB 60458 Sunnyvale, CA 94088 From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 17 11:29:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA13161 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 11:29:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (root@mexico.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA13099; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 11:29:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (brasil.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.33]) by mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA04843; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 20:28:54 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id UAA03525; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 20:28:27 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.8.4/keltia-uucp-2.9) id UAA15262; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 20:25:01 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 20:25:00 +0100 From: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HELP: dump to EXB-8700 tape drive hangs freebsd References: <199612171604.IAA12833@tibet.stepnet.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.54 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT ctm#2815 In-Reply-To: <199612171604.IAA12833@tibet.stepnet.com>; from Ping Mai on Dec 17, 1996 08:04:19 -0800 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Ping Mai: > I was using dump to backup to a Exabyte 8700 (actually a 8505) 8mm > tape drive hanging off a Adaptec 1510 when the system hung. I could Why don't you try to hook it on the Adaptec 284X instead ? A 1510 doesn't do DMA nor busmaster... > ahc0: at 0x1c00-0x1cff irq 11 on isa > ahc0: aic7770 >= Rev E, Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 4 SCBs -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #31: Tue Dec 3 23:52:58 CET 1996 From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 17 12:39:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA17353 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 12:39:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id MAA17342 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 12:39:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from Mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.2/8.8.2-biteme) with ESMTP id OAA09446; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 14:36:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from Venus.mcs.net (jonas@Venus.mcs.com [192.160.127.92]) by Mailbox.mcs.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id OAA14072; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 14:35:58 -0600 (CST) Received: (from jonas@localhost) by Venus.mcs.net (8.8.2/8.8.2) id OAA25547; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 14:35:52 -0600 (CST) From: Lars Jonas Olsson Message-Id: <199612172035.OAA25547@Venus.mcs.net> Subject: Re: EDO parit RAM (Was Re: Tyan ...) To: pmai@hpwrc716.mayfield.hp.com (Ping Mai) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 14:35:51 -0600 (CST) Cc: jonas@Mcs.Net, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199612171837.KAA21051@palrel1.hp.com> from "Ping Mai" at Dec 17, 96 10:37:58 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Note that there are two kinds of EDO parity RAM. One works both in > > parity and ECC mode and the other only in ECC mode. I first bought EDO > > parity RAM from Micron that only worked in ECC mode (Have to write all > > 4 parity bits at once). I then found EDO parity RAM from Samsung that > > works in regular parity mode. The type I buy is 32MB 60 ns, 72 pin, > > gold leads, p/n KMM5368105BKG-6 they are sort of expensive though at > > $280. > > > > Jonas > > > > What's wrong with ECC mode only memory? Where can you find parity > and ECC mode stuff? Please enlighten me. > > Thanks, > ping > > > Running in ECC mode decreases performance by 10-15% (according to memory of posts here). I bought Samsung EDO parity memory from Bell Industries (310) 921-1580 Jonas From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 17 14:32:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA23996 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 14:32:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (root@mexico.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id OAA23934 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 14:32:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (brasil.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.33]) by mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA04981 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:31:24 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id XAA05322 for freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:31:04 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.8.4/keltia-uucp-2.9) id XAA15749; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:21:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:21:37 +0100 From: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: EDO parit RAM (Was Re: Tyan ...) References: <199612111523.JAA05419@Mercury.mcs.net> <199612171837.KAA21051@palrel1.hp.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.54 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT ctm#2815 In-Reply-To: <199612171837.KAA21051@palrel1.hp.com>; from Ping Mai on Dec 17, 1996 10:37:58 -0800 Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Ping Mai: > What's wrong with ECC mode only memory? Where can you find parity 15% loss of performance if I remember well. See the archives of the list. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #31: Tue Dec 3 23:52:58 CET 1996 From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 17 14:39:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA24524 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 14:39:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from bah2.themall.net (bah.themall.net [204.80.99.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id OAA24519 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 14:39:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from 5x86.com (ptp123_4.themall.net [204.80.123.4]) by bah2.themall.net (8.8.2/8.8.2/IIAM 1.0 (DCH)) with SMTP id OAA29908 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 14:35:29 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199612172235.OAA29908@bah2.themall.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Jesse" Organization: Brown Computing To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 14:31:36 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Comments on this hardware? X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Jesse" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello Everyone, I am putting together a internet server for my personal use, and was wondering if anyone had any comments on the hardware (incompatibilitys etc). I will be using FreeBSD 2.1.6 or later. Generic Case (250W - 10 Bay) - $89 AHA-2940 Adaptec UltraWide - $ 225 (32bit PCI) Seagate ST32155W (Hawk 2XL) - $ 575 (2.1g 2ms UltraWide) Seagate ST32155W (Hawk 2XL) - $ 575 (2.1g 2ms UltraWide) NMB Keyboard - $ 52 3 button Logitech - $ 25 Generic Non-parity EDO (16mb)- $ 63.50 GigaByte 6x86-150 (Cyrix) - $ 280 (With Chip & 512k cache) Magnavox mono 14" -$ 116 (640x480) Generic Video (cirrus logic) -$ 30 Allied Telesis Hub (4 port) -$ 70 3C 509B-TPO Etherlink III -$ 129.95 (10BT PCI) 3C 509B-TPO Etherlink III -$ 129.95 (10BT PCI) HP Colorado t4000s 8.0g INT -$ 295 (SCSI2) What do you think? any substitutions or things i missed? BTW, I will be hooking to the internet with frame relay (only 128k for now) and all the hardware is included with the setup costs. -Jesse The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. ================================================ Brown computer repair and training. Phone (805) 942-1391 E-mail brown.computing@pobox.com ================================================ From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 17 14:52:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA25461 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 14:52:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA25430; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 14:52:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id XAA16656; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:52:03 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id XAA18570; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:52:03 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.4/8.6.9) id XAA17898; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:48:21 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199612172248.XAA17898@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: HELP: dump to EXB-8700 tape drive hangs freebsd To: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD SCSI list) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:48:21 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: from Ollivier Robert at "Dec 17, 96 08:25:00 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Ollivier Robert wrote: > Why don't you try to hook it on the Adaptec 284X instead ? A 1510 doesn't > do DMA nor busmaster... ...and the aic driver is a known rogue. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 17 18:17:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id SAA09834 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 18:17:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id SAA09829 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 18:17:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.2/8.7.3) id MAA28083; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 12:47:34 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199612180217.MAA28083@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Comments on this hardware? In-Reply-To: <199612172235.OAA29908@bah2.themall.net> from Jesse at "Dec 17, 96 02:31:36 pm" To: way7ruin@bah2.themall.net (Jesse) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 12:47:32 +1030 (CST) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jesse stands accused of saying: > Hello Everyone, I am putting together a internet server for my > personal use, and was wondering if anyone had any comments on the > hardware (incompatibilitys etc). I will be using FreeBSD 2.1.6 or > later. > > Generic Case (250W - 10 Bay) - $89 > AHA-2940 Adaptec UltraWide - $ 225 (32bit PCI) > Seagate ST32155W (Hawk 2XL) - $ 575 (2.1g 2ms UltraWide) > Seagate ST32155W (Hawk 2XL) - $ 575 (2.1g 2ms UltraWide) > NMB Keyboard - $ 52 > 3 button Logitech - $ 25 > Generic Non-parity EDO (16mb)- $ 63.50 Nowhere near enough memory. Try 4x this. > GigaByte 6x86-150 (Cyrix) - $ 280 (With Chip & 512k cache) > Magnavox mono 14" -$ 116 (640x480) > Generic Video (cirrus logic) -$ 30 You're not planning on running X on this unit? That's fair enough then. > -Jesse -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 17 18:24:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id SAA10080 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 18:24:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.166.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id SAA10073 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 18:24:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (annexr3-15.slip.Uni-Koeln.DE) by Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE with SMTP id AA03693 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 18 Dec 1996 03:24:36 +0100 Received: (from se@localhost) by x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (8.8.4/8.6.9) id DAA15824; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 03:10:11 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 03:08:51 +0100 From: se@FreeBSD.ORG (Stefan Esser) To: ruey@tpts1.seed.net.tw (PC_user) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TekrAm DC-390F scsi card References: <199612171728.BAA24094@tpts1.seed.net.tw> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.53 Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199612171728.BAA24094@tpts1.seed.net.tw>; from PC_user on Dec 18, 1996 01:28:45 +1419 Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Dec 18, ruey@tpts1.seed.net.tw (PC_user) wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to get my TekrAm DC-390F (ncr53c875) work under FreeBSD. But > I always get the following message while booting > > Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: > chip0 rev 1 on pci0:5 > de0 rev 17 int a irq 9 on pci0:10 > de0: 21041 [10Mb/s] pass 1.1 > de0: address 00:80:c8:34:93:bd > vga0 rev 6 int a irq 9 on pci0:11 > ncr0 rev 1 int a irq 10 on pci0:12 > CACHE TEST FAILED: reg dstat-sstat2 readback ffffffff. > CACHE INCORRECTLY CONFIGURED. > Probing for devices on the ISA bus: > sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard > ... > > and the system cannot detect any scsi device. > Please tell me how to fix this problem. Could you please send VERBOSE boot messages (ie. enter "-v"- at the "Boot: " prompt). The NCR driver does some basic tests before it starts to actually initialize the controller. And the first one already failed on your system. The test writes "0xffffffff" into some NCR register, which are guaranteed to return 0 in some of their bits. If the value read back does not contain those 0 bits, then the CPU read it from its cache, not from the NCR chip (which must be memory mapped into a non-cacheable memory region). Seems that your CPU read back the 0xffff with no single bit cleared. This prevents operation of the NCR (and any other memory mapped PCI card) on your motherboard. Please send the VERBOSE boot message log. You will find lines like the following in it: ncr1 rev 1 int a irq 12 on pci0:4 mapreg[10] type=1 addr=0000e400 size=0100. mapreg[14] type=0 addr=fbfde000 size=0100. mapreg[18] type=0 addr=fbfdd000 size=1000. reg20: virtual=0xf54f8000 physical=0xfbfde000 size=0x100 On my system the Tekram is mapped to address 0xfbfde000 (mapreg[14]). I've once before seen a system, whose PCI BIOS mapped some PCI chip into memory space below 1MB. It is often possible to remap any PCI device to some other unused memory address. You may try to build a kernel with NCR_IOMAPPED defined. This will make the driver use port I/O instead of memory accesses. Regards, STefan From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 17 20:03:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA14287 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 20:03:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from stcgate.statcan.ca (stcgate.statcan.ca [142.206.192.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA14280 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 20:03:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stcgate.statcan.ca (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA14805 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:05:53 -0500 Received: from stcinet.statcan.ca(142.206.128.146) by stcgate via smap (V1.3) id sma014796; Wed Dec 18 04:05:21 1996 Received: by statcan.ca (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA24425; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:07:42 -0500 From: jeays@statcan.ca (Mike Jeays) Message-Id: <199612180407.XAA24425@statcan.ca> Subject: CD ROM problems again To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:07:42 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Subject: Re: IDE CDROM failure report. Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Organization: Statistics Canada Summary: Keywords: To add to my recent message about not being able to detect a Panasonic CR-583 (8x) CD-ROM, I have since found out the following: With Release 2.1.5 (and no doubt 2.1.6, as I was told there were no changes in the relevant code), the boot code will only identify this device if it is the *slave* on either of the two controllers. I then did a full install with the following configuration: Wdc0 Master : Windows 95 disk Wdc0 Slave : Panasonic CR-583 Wdc1 Master : FreeBSD disk Seemed to work OK - until I tried to boot the new system. It detected all the devices correctly (but with quite long pauses for the second controller), and then failed with Changing root device to wd1a Panic : cannot mount root. I then exchanged the positions of the FreeBSD disk and the CD-ROM, and it booted successfully. Can I get around this in any way? I can only run my system with the disks in the second order, and then the CD is not detected at boot time. Finally, I downloaded the 2.2_ALPHA boot diskette, and this identifies the CD-ROM when it is the master device on the second controller - so there is hope the bug will be fixed in release 2.2. Great! From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 17 20:28:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA15136 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 20:28:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mercury.interpath.com (babbleon@mercury.interpath.com [199.72.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA15117; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 20:28:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from babbleon@localhost) by mercury.interpath.com (8.6.12/v1.0) id XAA15977; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:27:55 -0500 From: "Brian T. Schellenberger - Personal Account" Message-Id: <199612180427.XAA15977@mercury.interpath.com> Subject: Re: Zip drive To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:27:55 -0500 (EST) Cc: boia01@pollux.GEL.USherb.CA, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199612160217.MAA19290@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Dec 16, 96 12:47:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk | | Alex.Boisvert stands accused of saying: | > I am using the same driver with an Epson ZIP drive (same drive as Iomega | > but manufactured by Epson). I had to remove some of the detecting code | > because it was not seeing the drive. | > | > I also patched the driver to work with 2.2-ALPHA. | > | > Works like a charm. | > Alex. | > | > PS: If you need my source, just ask. | | If we can reach some consensus on what works and what doesn't for this | driver, I'll get it committed to -current so that it gets wider | distribution and testing. Alex, I'd obviously like your code - and | anyone else that's using it, please send me your diffs from the | original. Alex: Thank you, thank you, thank you! I have got the zip drive working here. For anybody looking at the code, I used his #define values for timeouts and his self-described "hack," but left the other code as it was originally, to get a working 2.1.0 driver (yes, I'm living the past; one reason I want a zip drive is to back up so I can update my O/S). I will be happy to send diffs (either relative to the origianl ppa3.c or to Alex's version), but I believe that the upshot of what I left and what I kept is that I have Alex's fix to make it work with my hardware without the changes for 2.2-ALPHA, but since 2.1.6 is the final, put-to-bed 2.1 (right?), I don't think the that the version I'm running is of widespread interest, is it? Anyway, I'm quite happy. Thanks for the help! -- Brian T. Schellenberger, the Man from Babble-On. "Someday I'll get around to importing all the cool quotes from my other account's .sig files." http://mercury.interpath.com/~babbleon From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 17 20:32:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA15259 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 20:32:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mercury.interpath.com (babbleon@mercury.interpath.com [199.72.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA15254 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 20:32:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from babbleon@localhost) by mercury.interpath.com (8.6.12/v1.0) id XAA16236 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:32:43 -0500 From: "Brian T. Schellenberger - Personal Account" Message-Id: <199612180432.XAA16236@mercury.interpath.com> Subject: CD-ROM trouble reports? To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Hardware) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:32:42 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a PROSTAR 9400 laptop on which I've never been able to get the CD-ROM to work properly. (See my home page fo some more details.) I only occaisonally tune into the newsgroups and what-not, but I understand that somebody is soliciting such info, and I've added lots of debug code that shows inb and outb values, and such-like, and will be happy to do all they want, including providing a copy of the MS-DOS driver, if somebody wants to look at these. (It's a Oak Technologies DOS driver, which makes me suspect IDE/ATAPI since that's what their home page says that they do, but they wont' answer my e-mail queries for details.) Anyway, is there somebody I should communicate with about this? Thanks. -- Brian T. Schellenberger, the Man from Babble-On. "Someday I'll get around to importing all the cool quotes from my other account's .sig files." http://mercury.interpath.com/~babbleon From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 17 21:05:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id VAA16176 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 21:05:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from lugh.kerris.com (lugh.kerris.com [205.150.35.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA16165 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 21:05:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mkerr@localhost) by lugh.kerris.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00422; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:34:40 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:33:40 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Kerr To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Mitsumi CDROM not found in probe In-Reply-To: <199612172035.OAA25547@Venus.mcs.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've been able to install fbsd on my system with a Mitsumi 8x IDE CDROM, which was a pleasant experience given my problems a few months ago with the Creative Labs 4x. Anyways, after installing it, when I boot up, the drive isn't found in the probe. It's looking for it at INT10, 300h. It's currently connected as slave on /wd0, and I can't seem to get the setting right for it. Has anybody had this problem, or have a solution to it? On a semi-related note, fbsd isn't finding /wd1 on probe. The PC boots up and recognizes the controller fine (the motherboard has two IDE controllers), and has no problem (other than an annoying delay at bootup) recognizing the drive on it (a WD Caviar; there's a 1.2G Seagate on wd0 with the CDROM). It sounds like a hardware problem more than anything else, but I was wondering if anybody else had any similar sort of experience. Not sure the exact make of the MB, but I do know it's a triton chipset. PCI. Mike. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Mike Kerr | http://www.net/~mkerr Kerr Information Systems | http://www.kerris.com/ mkerr@kerris.com | Web Guy, etc. From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Dec 17 22:31:02 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id WAA19706 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 22:31:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx.serv.net (mx.serv.net [199.201.191.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id WAA19700 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 22:30:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from MindBender.serv.net by mx.serv.net (8.7.5/SERV Revision: 2.30) id WAA20002; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 22:31:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.serv.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA09083; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 22:20:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199612180620.WAA09083@MindBender.serv.net> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.serv.net: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Michael Smith cc: way7ruin@bah2.themall.net (Jesse), freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Comments on this hardware? In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 18 Dec 96 12:47:32 +1030. <199612180217.MAA28083@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 22:20:05 -0800 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Jesse stands accused of saying: >> Generic Case (250W - 10 Bay) - $89 Buy the biggest case you can get, if you're building a server. Make sure it has two (or more) fans. Also, you may need to buy a custom SCSI cable with extra connectors on it if you go for more than four drives (some come with only enough connectors for two drives). >> AHA-2940 Adaptec UltraWide - $ 225 (32bit PCI) >> Seagate ST32155W (Hawk 2XL) - $ 575 (2.1g 2ms UltraWide) >> Seagate ST32155W (Hawk 2XL) - $ 575 (2.1g 2ms UltraWide) Why not try the IBM 2GB SCSI drives? They're about $200 cheaper. >> Generic Non-parity EDO (16mb)- $ 63.50 >Nowhere near enough memory. Try 4x this. Definitely. Memory is dirt cheap. Why cripple your self? Go for 32MB if you're on a budget. 64MB if you're buying for longer term. Of course, what you're _using_ the machine for will also come into play. :-) >> GigaByte 6x86-150 (Cyrix) - $ 280 (With Chip & 512k >>cache) Just make sure the chip's physical speed is a multiple of 33, and not a multiple of 30, for maximum performance (i.e. 133, 166, etc., not 120, 150, 180, etc.). >> Magnavox mono 14" -$ 116 (640x480) >> Generic Video (cirrus logic) -$ 30 >You're not planning on running X on this unit? That's fair enough >then. I think that would be a could suggestion. If this is an X-less server with a text console, get the cheapest VGA card and monitor (or even an old used EGA or mono card and mono monitor). If this is going to be a person's workstation running X, get an accelerated video card. Something S3-based or an ATI Mach32/Mach64 card. And don't get anything less than a 15-inch, with very strong tendancies towards 17-inch, unless you want to go blind early. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@MindBender.serv.net --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Dec 18 00:09:02 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id AAA23337 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 00:09:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from pegasus.com (pegasus.com [140.174.243.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA23329 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 00:08:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by pegasus.com (8.6.8/PEGASUS-2.2) id WAA21096; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 22:08:35 -1000 Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 22:08:35 -1000 From: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) Message-Id: <199612180808.WAA21096@pegasus.com> In-Reply-To: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) "Re: EDO parit RAM (Was Re: Tyan ...)" (Dec 17, 11:21pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: EDO parit RAM (Was Re: Tyan ...) Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk } > What's wrong with ECC mode only memory? Where can you find parity } } 15% loss of performance if I remember well. See the archives of the list. } That seems doubtful. How about 15% on main memory accesses -- most accesses are from cache. This sounds like the EDO gain that turned out to be 1%. Richard From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Dec 18 09:35:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA17278 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:35:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA17262 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:35:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA17658; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:34:39 -0800 (PST) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199612181734.JAA17658@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: EDO parit RAM (Was Re: Tyan ...) In-Reply-To: <199612180808.WAA21096@pegasus.com> from Richard Foulk at "Dec 17, 96 10:08:35 pm" To: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 09:34:38 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > } > What's wrong with ECC mode only memory? Where can you find parity > } > } 15% loss of performance if I remember well. See the archives of the list. > } > > That seems doubtful. How about 15% on main memory accesses -- most > accesses are from cache. >From my testing on ASUS PCI/I-P55T2P4 Intel 430HX based boards it was infact a 12% degrade in -MEMORY- intensive benchmarks, infact the same benchmarks I used to find the 1% EDO speed up showed the 12% ECC slow down. This would tend to indicate that the slow down in the main memory system is significant when running in ECC mode, far more than one would expect. > > This sounds like the EDO gain that turned out to be 1%. Except that both where measured using the same set of tests, and thus the 15% (12% was my result) is real system performance loss. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation, Inc. Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Dec 18 10:10:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA19756 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 10:10:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from pegasus.com (pegasus.com [140.174.243.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA19748 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 10:10:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by pegasus.com (8.6.8/PEGASUS-2.2) id IAA03525; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 08:10:04 -1000 Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 08:10:04 -1000 From: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) Message-Id: <199612181810.IAA03525@pegasus.com> In-Reply-To: "Rodney W. Grimes" "Re: EDO parit RAM (Was Re: Tyan ...)" (Dec 18, 9:34am) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: EDO parit RAM (Was Re: Tyan ...) Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk } > } > What's wrong with ECC mode only memory? Where can you find parity } > } } > } 15% loss of performance if I remember well. See the archives of the list. } > } } > } > That seems doubtful. How about 15% on main memory accesses -- most } > accesses are from cache. } } >From my testing on ASUS PCI/I-P55T2P4 Intel 430HX based boards it was } infact a 12% degrade in -MEMORY- intensive benchmarks, infact the same } benchmarks I used to find the 1% EDO speed up showed the 12% ECC slow } down. This would tend to indicate that the slow down in the main } memory system is significant when running in ECC mode, far more than } one would expect. } } > } > This sounds like the EDO gain that turned out to be 1%. } } Except that both where measured using the same set of tests, and thus } the 15% (12% was my result) is real system performance loss. } So what kind of impact does this have on `make world'? It can't be *that* bad -- unless ECC disables the cache ... I think your benchmark is hitting a sour-spot. Richard From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Dec 18 14:06:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA00954 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 14:06:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from digital.net (ddi.digital.net [198.69.104.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id OAA00941 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 14:06:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from yoffa (max-roc1-8.digital.net [206.228.234.8]) by digital.net (8.8.0/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA17758 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:06:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961218220902.006a59c4@digital.net> X-Sender: phoenix@digital.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 17:09:02 -0500 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: Phoenix Rising Subject: iOmega Jaz drive support? Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Just joined this list to find an answer amazingly *not* on Peter daSilva's incredibly extensive FAQ :) First, here's my system, then my question: * Intel Pentium 100MHz on an Acer motherboard with Intel chipset and AMI BIOS * Micropolis 3243-AV SCSI 4.29GB (presumed to be supported) * booting off an Adaptec 2940 (listed as supported) * Oodles of space available on boot disk (>2 GB still free) but I don't want to install FreeBSD here as the Micropolis was *very* expensive since it was specifically designed for *AV* not multitasking....I want to be able to do multimedia on it and 2GB is just barely enough working/elbow room for that. * 32MB of RAM (EDO) * iOmega Jaz drive (these use the 1 GB cartridges, like their smaller but older siblings, the ever-popular Zip 100 MB drives) external, plugged into the Adaptec SCSI card. So long as I turn on the iOmega drive *BEFORE* booting (you have to do this or the drive basically doesn't exist to the system), my Jaz looks just like another *internal* SCSI disk, gets a drive letter and everything Now the questions: (1) Does FreeBSD support iOmega Jaz drives at all? (2) Can I install/run FreeBSD off a Jaz disk the same way (or similarly to) one runs it off a CD-ROM? I *do* realize I need to use 35-60MB of my boot disk (my Micropolis disk) to boot the system with FreeBSD not Win95 but I am wondering if this hardware will even be decipherable / mountable by the OS? I bought my Jaz for cross-platform compatibilty (I'm on a Pentium and want to work with Mac's and Unix boxes) so I am suspecting FreeBSD will handle it just like it would any SCSI hard disk, but if it *won't* then I can't afford to buy/install it right now, both for $$$$ and time investment...if it *will* this is a GREAT way to work around all of those ISP's out there that won't allow shell access but want you to debug your Perl scripts without it... yeah, right. While Apache is still free, I want to get this box up and running but if the hardware's not supported, I'll need to find a more expensive ISP who gives me shell access. After 12 years on the net I am *spoiled* and figure hours and days are way too long to wait for an answer but I've been at this one for almost two weeks--so glad to finally find the *RIGHT* forum for asking this question! ;] ADthanxVANCE! -sry Sarah R. Yoffa - PGP Ver. 2.6.2 Public Key ID D023E649 ----------------------------------------------------------------- http://digital.net/~phoenix/FourthFate/ The *other* W3C http://www.webgrrls.com/spacecoast/ Space Coast Webgrrls http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4296/ DeepSpace From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Dec 18 15:45:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA10387 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 15:45:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA10382 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 15:45:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.2/8.7.3) id KAA01790; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 10:15:36 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199612182345.KAA01790@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: iOmega Jaz drive support? In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19961218220902.006a59c4@digital.net> from Phoenix Rising at "Dec 18, 96 05:09:02 pm" To: phoenix@digital.net (Phoenix Rising) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 10:15:35 +1030 (CST) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Phoenix Rising stands accused of saying: > > (1) Does FreeBSD support iOmega Jaz drives at all? Yes. I have one. > (2) Can I install/run FreeBSD off a Jaz disk the same > way (or similarly to) one runs it off a CD-ROM? You can't run FreeBSD off a CD-ROM. You can indeed use the Jaz for FreeBSD, and if the Adaptec sees it as one of the first two BIOS disks you may even be able to boot from it. Note that while the Jaz is mounted, you can't change disks, and if you use it as a system disk (ie. any of /, /var or /usr on it) you won't be able to swap it while FreeBSD is running. > Sarah R. Yoffa - PGP Ver. 2.6.2 Public Key ID D023E649 -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Dec 18 15:46:43 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA10447 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 15:46:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA10439 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 15:46:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.4/8.7.3) id PAA03810; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 15:46:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 15:46:27 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199612182346.PAA03810@vader.cs.berkeley.edu> To: richard@pegasus.com CC: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199612181810.IAA03525@pegasus.com> (richard@pegasus.com) Subject: Re: EDO parit RAM (Was Re: Tyan ...) From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * So what kind of impact does this have on `make world'? * * It can't be *that* bad -- unless ECC disables the cache ... * * I think your benchmark is hitting a sour-spot. Well, I didn't actually try a "make world" but the system did seem extremely sluggish with the ECC turned on. I couldn't stand it so I turned it off again.... Satoshi (P5-133, BTW) From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Dec 18 21:34:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id VAA01378 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 21:34:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mercury.interpath.com (babbleon@mercury.interpath.com [199.72.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA01371 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 21:34:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from babbleon@localhost) by mercury.interpath.com (8.6.12/v1.0) id AAA20168 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 00:34:55 -0500 From: "Brian T. Schellenberger - Personal Account" Message-Id: <199612190534.AAA20168@mercury.interpath.com> Subject: Zip II: the disktab entry To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Hardware) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 00:34:55 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ok, cool. Thanks to a couple of fine folks on this list, I now have my zip drive working w/r/t msdos mounting and raw device usage. Now, I'd like to create "real" filesystems on Zip drives, but I don't have a disktab entry for it. PS: It's slow as a dog, or so it seems to me, and, worse yet, it seems to make my system really sluggish. Has anybody spent time tuning it? I'm on a 486Dx4-100 with a fast parallel port, so I'd expect my system to pretty much be able to keep up if the Zip drive can. PPS: I'm unclear on the distinction between /dev/rsd0 and /dev/rsd0c (or /dev/rfd0 vs. /dev/rfd0c for that matter). I use the former as a rule but much of the doc favors the latter. Can anybody clue me in? PPPS: Anybody noticed stray irq 7's with the zip driver? I keep getting console messages about this from the kernel. PPPPS: For any of these, if you point me to TFM, I'll be happy to RTFM. Thanks. -- Brian T. Schellenberger, the Man from Babble-On. "Someday I'll get around to importing all the cool quotes from my other account's .sig files." http://mercury.interpath.com/~babbleon From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Dec 19 01:58:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id BAA13346 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 01:58:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id BAA13341 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 01:58:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.3/8.6.9) id UAA05565; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 20:52:16 +1100 Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 20:52:16 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199612190952.UAA05565@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: babbleon@mercury.interpath.com, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Zip II: the disktab entry Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Ok, cool. Thanks to a couple of fine folks on this list, I now have >my zip drive working w/r/t msdos mounting and raw device usage. Now, >I'd like to create "real" filesystems on Zip drives, but I don't have >a disktab entry for it. It doesn't need a disktab entry. Treat it as an array of sectors. >PS: It's slow as a dog, or so it seems to me, and, worse yet, it seems >to make my system really sluggish. Has anybody spent time tuning it? >I'm on a 486Dx4-100 with a fast parallel port, so I'd expect my system >to pretty much be able to keep up if the Zip drive can. Slowness is probably normal for the parallel port version. I used the SCSI version for root and swap on a 486DX2/66 with nfs-mounted /usr for a few months. It was about the same speed as nfs. >PPS: I'm unclear on the distinction between /dev/rsd0 and /dev/rsd0c >(or /dev/rfd0 vs. /dev/rfd0c for that matter). I use the former as >a rule but much of the doc favors the latter. Can anybody clue me in? /dev/rsd0 is the whole disk. /dev/rsd0c is the `c' partition on the first BSD slice on the disk if the disk happens to have a BSD slice on it. If the first BSD slice happens to cover the whole disk and the `c' partition on it covers the whole slice, then /dev/rsd0 and /dev/rsd0c describe the same region of the disk, otherwise not. They are logically distinct in all cases. E.g., you can write a label to /dev/rsd0c (if it exists) but the label on /dev/rsd0 is read-only. Bruce From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Dec 19 15:02:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA18545 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 15:02:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA18523 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 15:02:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 18:01:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01648; Thu, 19 Dec 96 18:01:49 EST Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA21853; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 18:00:46 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 18:00:46 -0500 From: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) To: babbleon@mercury.interpath.com (Brian T. Schellenberger - Personal Account) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Hardware) Subject: Re: Zip II: the disktab entry References: <199612190534.AAA20168@mercury.interpath.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.54 Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199612190534.AAA20168@mercury.interpath.com>; from Brian T. Schellenberger - Personal Account on Dec 19, 1996 00:34:55 -0500 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk |Ok, cool. Thanks to a couple of fine folks on this list, I now have |my zip drive working w/r/t msdos mounting and raw device usage. Now, |I'd like to create "real" filesystems on Zip drives, but I don't have |a disktab entry for it. You don't need a new disktab. Just use that one. To create a "real" (i.e. UFS) file system on a ZIP, here's a script I use that might help get you started. make-ufs-zip.sh uses Darryl Okahata's (darrylo@hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com) enhanced fdisk that allows the partition info to be specified via stdin. You'll probably need to tweak the device as my SCSI zip is on sd0, and I don't know what device a parallel ZIP sits on (lpd0? :-). Hope this gets you goin'. Randall Hopper begin 666 make-ufs-zip.sh.gz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end From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Dec 19 16:49:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA23767 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 16:49:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunfire.ucs.net (root@sunfire.ucs.net [199.224.7.165]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id QAA23762 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 16:49:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (afurman@localhost) by sunfire.ucs.net (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA07867 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 19:48:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 19:48:59 -0500 (EST) From: Adam Furman To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: console drivers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I changed my video card for my freebsd box which is a 2.20 snap 80196. The old card was a stealth 64 pci card and I moved down to a Local Bus video card. When ever I look at my console I can't read it. I would like to know what in the kernel I might need to change. Please let me know. Adam Adam Furman System Administrator of Sunfire.ucs.net afurman@amf.net Irc HUB Admin of irc.ucs.net From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 20 05:13:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id FAA19690 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 05:13:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from vector.jhs.no_domain (slip139-92-4-242.mu.de.ibm.net [139.92.4.242]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id FAA19667 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 05:12:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from vector.jhs.no_domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.jhs.no_domain (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA00241 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:10:02 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199612201310.OAA00241@vector.jhs.no_domain> To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: e-mail forwarding From: "Julian H. Stacey" Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" X-Organization: Vector Systems Ltd. X-Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany X-Phone: +49.89.268616 X-Fax: +49.89.2608126 X-ISDN: +49.89.26023276 X-Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 19 Dec 1996 08:06:31 EST." <961219080630_743198024@emout08.mail.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed ; boundary="===_0_Fri_Dec_20_13:46:18_MET_1996" Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:10:01 +0100 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is a multipart MIME message. --===_0_Fri_Dec_20_13:46:18_MET_1996 Content-Type: text/plain I would much appreciate anyone who could shed light on jumper settings etc, for a motherboard & combi card that I was given without any docs: MOTHERBOARD : Width: 22cm (8.65"), Length: 25cm (9.8"), Front of board: "V1.0" in big white letters by keyboard socket + white label Assembled in China Back of board: "OA 405-1.0 E2h6" Bus: 4 * ISA, 3 * PCI, Memory: 8 Mem Slots, Bank 0: 4 * { SIM with 2 * N41-C + 1 * Siemens HYB511000BJ-70 } Bank 1: 4 * { SIM with 2 * ? + 1 * OKI } Cache: 8 * ALLIANCE AS7C256-20PC 9423 USA C, + 1 * UM61256AK-15 94230 R32382 BIOS: AMI Chip American Megatrends 486DX ISA BIOS AB6128305 On boot annonces as C. 1993 (so I presume no > 528M BIOS support CPU: 486 66MHz (+ Fan on bronze coloured aluminium), Layout diagram: As per Mime diagram attached, & duplicated on http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/hardware/unknown.html Jumper settings as received are: JP 1: 0 X-X 0 JP 2: 0 X-X JP 3: X-X 0 Soldered, No pins JP 4: Closed JP 5: Closed JP 6: Closed JP 7: Closed JP 8: Closed JP 9: 0 X-X JP 10: 0 X-X JP 11: Closed JP 12: Closed JP 13: Open JP 14: Closed JP 15: Open JP 16: POW LED /KEY LOCK Box wiring: Green Open White Blue White JP 17: SPEAKER Box wiring: Red Open Open Black JP 18: TB LED Box wiring: Yellow White JP 19: RESET Box wiring: White Blue JP 20: TB SW Box wiring: Unused (Yelllow White Black Cable floating free) JP 21: Open JP 22: X-X X-X ie 1 & 2 connected, & 3 & 4 connected JP 23: X-X 0 JP 24: 0 X-X Soldered, No pins JP 25: X-X 0 Soldered, No pins JP 26: Closed COMBI CARD: 2 Serial, 1 parallel, 1 games port, + floppy + ide hard disc interfaces Bus physically appears as: PCI Bus Screen Print: UN 1081 VL FCC ID: J8Y2278VL Assy Rev A Card Layout: +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | +--+ +-----+ +-----+ +----------+ +----------+ +-----------+ +-- | | |J1| |J2 40| |J3 34| |Game 16/15| X-X |Ser 1 10/9| |Ser 2 10/25| | | | | | +-----+ +-----+ +----------+ W26 +----------+ +-----------+ | | | +--+ | | | DTC +-----+ Winbond WINBOND | | | +----+ | W 6 | | | | | W1 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | +------+ +-----------+ | | | | W5 | | W17 | |24 MHz| | W18 - W25 | | | | +----+ +-----+ +------+ +-----------+ | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ White sticker on back: 3 (marked on 12 boxes, one per month) Warranty void if removed 1994 QC Passed: 1st of 2 boxes marked. Made in China Parallel port #1 (on board) has 8 * { 33 ohm resistors & ceramic capacitors marked 222} 3 chips: Big: Winbond W83758P 351AB13365780 68 pin Small: Winbond W83757F 343TA13353880 100 pin Small: DTC 805 B R 9349 900061-01 100 pin 1 2 3 W 1 X-X . W 2 . X-X W 3 . X-X W 4 . X-X W 5 X-X . ---------------- W 6 X-X . W 7 . X-X W 8 . X-X W 9 X-X . W10 X-X . W11 X-X . W12 . X-X W13 X-X . W14 . X-X W15 . X-X W16 X-X . W17 X-X . ---------------- W18 X-X W19 . . W20 . . W21 X-X W22 . . W23 . . W24 X-X W25 . . ---------------- W26 X-X Hard Disk Red --- J1 Hard Disk White --- H (hole through rest of word, presume high) Open Circuit --- Active Open Circuit --- To make it easier for anyone with a non Mime mailer, Ive put the motherboard diagram up on the web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/hardware/unknown.html Once again, any info gratefully received, Thanks :-) Julian -- Julian H. 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PPr06tezb+/+Pfz48ufTr2//Pv78+vfz7+//P4ABCjgggQUaeCCCCSq4IIMNOvigMAUAADs= --===_0_Fri_Dec_20_13:46:18_MET_1996-- From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 20 09:41:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA29375 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 09:41:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from palrel1.hp.com (palrel1.hp.com [15.253.72.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA29369 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 09:41:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from srmail.sr.hp.com (srmail.sr.hp.com [15.4.45.14]) by palrel1.hp.com with ESMTP (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA10924; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 09:40:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com by srmail.sr.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA225183649; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 09:40:50 -0800 Received: from mina.sr.hp.com by hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA298243647; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 09:40:47 -0800 Message-Id: <199612201740.AA298243647@hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com> To: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) Cc: babbleon@mercury.interpath.com (Brian T. Schellenberger - Personal Account), freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Hardware) Subject: Re: Zip II: the disktab entry Reply-To: darrylo@sr.hp.com In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 19 Dec 1996 18:00:46 EST." Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 09:40:47 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > To create a "real" (i.e. UFS) file system on a ZIP, here's a script I use > that might help get you started. make-ufs-zip.sh uses Darryl Okahata's > (darrylo@hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com) enhanced fdisk that allows the partition info > to be specified via stdin. Unfortunately, not all of my fdisk changes made it into 2.2. I took out the "-f" option, as it duplicates functionality that's in disklabel (in particular, if "-f" was left in, the nasty magic that creates "dangerously dedicated disks" would be in two places, which could cause maintenance problems). Fortunately, there's an easier way to create dedicated disks. Instructions (old) have been appended to this message. Note that the following works for 2.2-current and later; I don't think it works for 2.1.5 or 2.1.6 or earlier. -- Darryl Okahata Internet: darrylo@sr.hp.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Hewlett-Packard, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. =============================================================================== If and only if all of the following are true: * You're an intermediate- to expert-level user. (DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT DOING THE FOLLOWING IF YOU'RE A NOVICE USER!) * You have a SCSI disk (IDE drives may work in the following, but I don't know). * You want to dedicate the *ENTIRE* disk to FreeBSD. This is *IMPORTANT*, as the following assumes that you really do want to dedicate the entire disk to FreeBSD (yes, *all* of it). If you want to use even a teensy, tiny part of the disk for something else like MSDOS or Windows, you CANNOT use the following instructions. Period. * You have no data on the disk that you want to keep. * You don't mind losing ALL DATA that is currently on the disk. * You don't mind destroying any and all MSDOS or Windows 3.1/95/NT or any other information that is on the disk. * You don't plan on using or sharing the disk with other operating systems (e.g., MSDOS or Windows). * You want to partition the *ENTIRE* FreeBSD slice into a single FreeBSD filesystem. (If this isn't true, you have to change the "newfs" command below.) Then, the easiest way to add a dedicated disk is the following: * First, determine the base disk name of the disk you want to add/dedicate (e.g., "sd1"). * Assuming that "sd1" really is correct, do the following (assuming Bourne shell /bin/sh syntax): # This won't work if you're using /bin/csh: d=sd1 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/r$d count=2 disklabel /dev/r$d | disklabel -B -R -r $d /dev/stdin # We only want one partition, so using slice 'c' should be fine: newfs /dev/r${d}c (Thanks to Bruce Evans for the procedure.) You can then mount the drive via a command like: mount /dev/${d}c /mnt From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 20 09:56:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA00247 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 09:56:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from minas_tirith.aha.ru ([195.209.130.16]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA00234 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 09:56:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tarkhil@localhost) by minas_tirith.aha.ru (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA05800; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 20:18:10 +0300 Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 20:18:10 +0300 From: Alex Povolotsky Message-Id: <199612201718.UAA05800@minas_tirith.aha.ru> To: hardware@freebsd.org Reply-To: tarkhil@aha.ru Subject: A _very_ old streamer controller Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello! Maybe someone will help me with my old but still working QIC-02 controller. It's 8-bit, fullsize and probabily was made by Everex. It has a LOT of undocumented jumpers, some of caps were lost :-( I need to know which jumpers should be shorted. Everex doesn't support these devices anymore... Alex. From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 20 11:06:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA03301 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 11:06:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.id.net (mail.id.net [199.125.1.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA03289 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 11:06:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from server.id.net (server.id.net [199.125.0.10]) by mail.id.net (8.7.5/ID-Net) with ESMTP id OAA26675; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:08:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rls@localhost) by server.id.net (8.8.2/8.7.3) id OAA06917; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:09:00 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Shady Message-Id: <199612201909.OAA06917@server.id.net> Subject: Re: console drivers In-Reply-To: from Adam Furman at "Dec 19, 96 07:48:59 pm" To: afurman@sunfire.ucs.net (Adam Furman) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:08:59 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I changed my video card for my freebsd box which is a 2.20 snap 80196. > The old card was a stealth 64 pci card and I moved down to a Local Bus > video card. When ever I look at my console I can't read it. I would like > to know what in the kernel I might need to change. Please let me know. Maybe I am misunderstanding this, but YOU changed your hardware -- Now you can't read it, and you want to know what WE did to make that happen? Hmm.. Very perplexing indeed.. :=) -- Rob === _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ Innovative Data Services Serving South-Eastern Michigan Internet Service Provider / Hardware Sales / Consulting Services Voice: (810)855-0404 / Fax: (810)855-3268 / Web: http://www.id.net From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 20 12:33:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA06883 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 12:33:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from gw1.asacomputers.com (root@gw1.asacomputers.com [204.69.220.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id MAA06876 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 12:33:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by gw1.asacomputers.com id MAA25460; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 12:31:32 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961220203215.0069bf44@gw1> X-Sender: nasir@gw1 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 12:32:15 -0800 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: Nasir Ahmed Subject: SMP. Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Thanks to all who helped me with the ZX314. I have one more. Would you please help with an SMP problem or direct me to the right newsgroup? Apparently FreeBSD v2.1.6 now supports SMP but we need detailed information about files and where to get them. TIA, Nasir. From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 20 12:53:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA08102 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 12:53:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from gateman.zeus.leitch.com (gateman.zeus.leitch.com [204.187.61.193]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id MAA08097 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 12:53:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeus.leitch.com (0@tap.zeus.leitch.com [204.187.60.10]) by gateman.zeus.leitch.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/1.0) with ESMTP id PAA18137 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:53:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from bitter.zeus.leitch.com (bitter.zeus.leitch.com [204.187.61.66]) by zeus.leitch.com (8.7.5/8.7.3/1.0) with ESMTP id PAA05061 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:53:33 -0500 (EST) From: Tony Holmes Received: (tholmes@localhost) by bitter.zeus.leitch.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id PAA00413 for freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:53:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199612202053.PAA00413@bitter.zeus.leitch.com> Subject: SMC Etherpower patch To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org ((FreeBSD hardware)) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:53:33 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL14 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Sorry, but I know that a patch has been made to support the new version of the SMC Etherpower 10/100 (BDT), but in which version of the FreeBSD kernel is it in 2.1.6, 2.2 or both? Thanks in advance. Tony From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 20 13:12:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA09246 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 13:12:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from clem.systemsix.com (clem.systemsix.com [198.99.86.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA09238 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 13:12:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clem.systemsix.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA26884; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:11:36 -0700 Message-Id: <199612202111.OAA26884@clem.systemsix.com> X-Authentication-Warning: clem.systemsix.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: Nasir Ahmed cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP. In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 20 Dec 1996 12:32:15 PST." <2.2.32.19961220203215.0069bf44@gw1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:11:36 -0700 Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > I have one more. Would you please help with an SMP problem or > direct me to the right newsgroup? > Apparently FreeBSD v2.1.6 now supports SMP but we need detailed > information about files and where to get them. not true, SMP is at ALPHA level, and kept in a separate tree, see: http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/SMP/SMP.html -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 20 15:50:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA15880 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:50:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from night.primate.wisc.edu (night.primate.wisc.edu [144.92.43.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA15874 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:50:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dubois@localhost) by night.primate.wisc.edu (8.8.4/8.8.2) id RAA12714; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:52:26 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:52:25 -0600 From: dubois@primate.wisc.edu (Paul DuBois) To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: console drivers References: <199612201909.OAA06917@server.id.net> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.54 Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199612201909.OAA06917@server.id.net>; from Robert Shady on Dec 20, 1996 14:08:59 -0500 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Robert Shady writes: > > I changed my video card for my freebsd box which is a 2.20 snap 80196. > > The old card was a stealth 64 pci card and I moved down to a Local Bus > > video card. When ever I look at my console I can't read it. I would like > > to know what in the kernel I might need to change. Please let me know. > > Maybe I am misunderstanding this, but YOU changed your hardware -- Now > you can't read it, and you want to know what WE did to make that happen? Offhand I'd say that's not at all what he's asking. He said he changed his hardware, and now would like to know how to rebuild the kernel so it works with his new hardware. -- Paul DuBois dubois@primate.wisc.edu Home page: http://www.primate.wisc.edu/people/dubois Software: http://www.primate.wisc.edu/software From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Dec 20 17:35:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA19433 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:35:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from databus.databus.com (databus.databus.com [198.186.154.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA19427 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:35:09 -0800 (PST) From: Barney Wolff To: tarkhil@aha.ru, hardware@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 20:20 EST Subject: Re: A _very_ old streamer controller Content-Type: text/plain Message-ID: <32bb3d6f0.3a9f@databus.databus.com> Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have an EV-811 Rev B sitting in front of me. After blowing the dust off, here's what I see: A set of switches on the lower left, that selects the IO base address. I used 0x300, with means switches 1-8 up, 9&10 down. I believe the rightmost switches are the IO address with bits reversed. Next to the switches is a bank of 12 jumpers. From the left, the first 3 and the last three select the DMA to use - they have to match. The leftmost jumper is for dma 1, then 2 then 3. You have to find an unused dma channel. The middle 6 jumpers in the block are the irq select. From the left, these are 3,4,5,6,7,2/9. The single jumper just above the right side of the jumper block is marked "dr3en" on my board, presumably meaning "dma channel 3 enable". Good luck, Barney Wolff A century ago, the family name was Zarambuvitch. > Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 20:18:10 +0300 > From: Alex Povolotsky > To: hardware@freebsd.org > Reply-To: tarkhil@aha.ru > Subject: A _very_ old streamer controller > Content-Length: 308 > > Hello! > > Maybe someone will help me with my old but still working QIC-02 > controller. It's 8-bit, fullsize and probabily was made by Everex. It > has a LOT of undocumented jumpers, some of caps were lost :-( > > I need to know which jumpers should be shorted. Everex doesn't support > these devices anymore... > > Alex. > From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Dec 21 17:47:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA12857 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 17:47:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from DNS.Lamb.net (root@DNS.Lamb.net [207.90.181.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id RAA12850; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 17:47:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from PacBell.TelcoSucks.org (ulf@msn-52.hl-1.msn.eunet.de [194.175.90.52]) by DNS.Lamb.net (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id RAA00824; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 17:51:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961221174418.00722b68@Gatekeeper-3.Lamb.net> X-Sender: ulf@Gatekeeper-3.Lamb.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 Demo (32) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 17:48:34 -0800 To: "Julian H. Stacey" , hardware@freebsd.org From: Ulf Zimmermann Subject: Re: e-mail forwarding Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 02:10 PM 12/20/96 +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > duplicated on http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/hardware/unknown.html Is not a valid url. :( Ulf. ----------------------------------------------------------- Alameda Networks, Inc. | Ulf Zimmermann (ulf@Alameda.net) 1525 Pacific Avenue | Phone: (510)769-2936 Alameda, CA 94501 | Fax : (510)521-5073 From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Dec 21 17:47:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA12873 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 17:47:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from DNS.Lamb.net (root@DNS.Lamb.net [207.90.181.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id RAA12865; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 17:47:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from PacBell.TelcoSucks.org (ulf@msn-52.hl-1.msn.eunet.de [194.175.90.52]) by DNS.Lamb.net (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id RAA00829; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 17:51:26 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961221174812.00724a18@Gatekeeper-3.Lamb.net> X-Sender: ulf@Gatekeeper-3.Lamb.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 Demo (32) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 17:48:38 -0800 To: "Julian H. Stacey" , hardware@freebsd.org From: Ulf Zimmermann Subject: Re: e-mail forwarding Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hmmm, from the gif you attach also to the email, I would say it is a 486VLB board, not a PCI. The 486VLB with PCchips sticker were sold often in Germany. Try WeCo (Weit Computer) in Luebeck, they sold a larger number of them as far I know. Ask for Swen Eisenkraemer and tell him you come from me. He should have still a handbook for it. Ulf. At 02:10 PM 12/20/96 +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote: >I would much appreciate anyone who could shed light on >jumper settings etc, for a motherboard & combi card >that I was given without any docs: > >MOTHERBOARD : > Width: 22cm (8.65"), > Length: 25cm (9.8"), > Front of board: "V1.0" in big white letters by keyboard socket > + white label Assembled in China > Back of board: "OA 405-1.0 E2h6" > Bus: 4 * ISA, 3 * PCI, > Memory: 8 Mem Slots, > Bank 0: 4 * { SIM with 2 * N41-C + 1 * Siemens HYB511000BJ-70 } > Bank 1: 4 * { SIM with 2 * ? + 1 * OKI } > Cache: 8 * ALLIANCE AS7C256-20PC 9423 USA C, + 1 * UM61256AK-15 94230 R32382 > BIOS: AMI Chip American Megatrends 486DX ISA BIOS AB6128305 > On boot annonces as C. 1993 (so I presume no > 528M BIOS support > CPU: 486 66MHz (+ Fan on bronze coloured aluminium), > > Layout diagram: As per Mime diagram attached, & > duplicated on http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/hardware/unknown.html > > Jumper settings as received are: > > JP 1: 0 X-X 0 > JP 2: 0 X-X > JP 3: X-X 0 Soldered, No pins > JP 4: Closed > JP 5: Closed > JP 6: Closed > JP 7: Closed > JP 8: Closed > JP 9: 0 X-X > JP 10: 0 X-X > JP 11: Closed > JP 12: Closed > JP 13: Open > JP 14: Closed > JP 15: Open > JP 16: POW LED /KEY LOCK Box wiring: Green Open White Blue White > JP 17: SPEAKER Box wiring: Red Open Open Black > JP 18: TB LED Box wiring: Yellow White > JP 19: RESET Box wiring: White Blue > JP 20: TB SW Box wiring: Unused (Yelllow White Black Cable floating free) > JP 21: Open > JP 22: X-X X-X ie 1 & 2 connected, & 3 & 4 connected > JP 23: X-X 0 > JP 24: 0 X-X Soldered, No pins > JP 25: X-X 0 Soldered, No pins > JP 26: Closed > > >COMBI CARD: > 2 Serial, 1 parallel, 1 games port, + floppy + ide hard disc interfaces > Bus physically appears as: PCI Bus > Screen Print: UN 1081 VL FCC ID: J8Y2278VL Assy Rev A > Card Layout: > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | +--+ +-----+ +-----+ +----------+ +----------+ +-----------+ +-- | > | |J1| |J2 40| |J3 34| |Game 16/15| X-X |Ser 1 10/9| |Ser 2 10/25| | | > | | | +-----+ +-----+ +----------+ W26 +----------+ +-----------+ | | > | +--+ | | > | DTC +-----+ Winbond WINBOND | | > | +----+ | W 6 | | | > | | W1 | | | | | > | | | | | | | > | | | | | +------+ +-----------+ | | > | | W5 | | W17 | |24 MHz| | W18 - W25 | | | > | +----+ +-----+ +------+ +-----------+ | > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > White sticker on back: > 3 (marked on 12 boxes, one per month) > Warranty void if removed 1994 > QC Passed: 1st of 2 boxes marked. Made in China > > Parallel port #1 (on board) has > 8 * { 33 ohm resistors & ceramic capacitors marked 222} > 3 chips: > Big: Winbond W83758P 351AB13365780 68 pin > Small: Winbond W83757F 343TA13353880 100 pin > Small: DTC 805 B R 9349 900061-01 100 pin > > 1 2 3 > W 1 X-X . > W 2 . X-X > W 3 . X-X > W 4 . X-X > W 5 X-X . > ---------------- > W 6 X-X . > W 7 . X-X > W 8 . X-X > W 9 X-X . > W10 X-X . > W11 X-X . > W12 . X-X > W13 X-X . > W14 . X-X > W15 . X-X > W16 X-X . > W17 X-X . > ---------------- > W18 X-X > W19 . . > W20 . . > W21 X-X > W22 . . > W23 . . > W24 X-X > W25 . . > ---------------- > W26 X-X > > Hard Disk Red --- J1 > Hard Disk White --- H (hole through rest of word, presume high) > Open Circuit --- Active > Open Circuit --- > > >To make it easier for anyone with a non Mime mailer, >Ive put the motherboard diagram up on the web: > http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/hardware/unknown.html > >Once again, any info gratefully received, Thanks :-) > >Julian >-- >Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ > > > >Attachment Converted: "c:\eudora\attach\Re e-mail forwarding.gif" > ----------------------------------------------------------- Alameda Networks, Inc. | Ulf Zimmermann (ulf@Alameda.net) 1525 Pacific Avenue | Phone: (510)769-2936 Alameda, CA 94501 | Fax : (510)521-5073