From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 5 02:13:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA04684 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 5 May 1996 02:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from doorstep.unety.net (root@usi-00-10.Naperville.unety.net [204.70.107.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA04664 Sun, 5 May 1996 02:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webster.unety.net (webster.unety.net [206.31.202.8]) by doorstep.unety.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA10285; Sun, 5 May 1996 04:06:24 -0500 Received: by webster.unety.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BB3A38.BC5B4BE0@webster.unety.net>; Sun, 5 May 1996 04:10:03 -0500 Message-ID: <01BB3A38.BC5B4BE0@webster.unety.net> From: Jim Fleming To: "'Jordan K. Hubbard'" Cc: "'Darren Reed'" , "FreeBSD-hackers@FreeBSD.org" , "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" , "'freebsd-security@freebsd.org'" , Warner Losh , "wollman@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: IPv8 Tutorial #1: Minimal IPv8 hack Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 04:10:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sunday, May 05, 1996 3:46 AM, Jordan K. Hubbard[SMTP:jkh@time.cdrom.com] wrote: @ > Does the word "Free" in FreeBSD mostly stand for Free as in Money @ > or freedom as in freedom of choice...??? @ @ Free as in freely available, if you were seriously looking for an @ answer to that question. @ Thanks...either way... @ However, the rules of quality control stipulate that you also don't @ take just any damn thing you're offered or pretty soon you start @ looking more like AIX than you do like BSD. That would be terrible, @ and it certainly won't happen so long as the current core team is in @ charge. @ Hold on...I am not suggesting that IPv8 go into FreeBSD... @ Finally, there is also a high degree of compartmentalization in the @ FreeBSD project and, last I checked, it was not even the members of @ this group you have to convince about IPv8 going in as a default part @ of the system. Garrett Wollman is in charge of networking, we've @ grown to respect his judgement enough over the years to delegate final @ authority over that area to him and, if he suddently decides that IPv8 @ is god's gift to FreeBSD, you're probably a shoo-in with very little @ debate. If, on the other hand, he thinks otherwise then you've a @ snowball's chance in hell of getting this into FreeBSD and there's not @ even any point in taking your case here. @ So, like most large companies, educational institutions, etc. there is an "organization". That seems natural. This is good, that allows your group to control the quality of their software "production". Keep up the good work. @ Now, would that mean we're all hateful people who are determined to @ keep IPv8 out of FreeBSD? Of course not, we'd simply suggest (as @ Warner did) that you distribute it independantly, as *many other* @ people have done with their private enhancements to FreeBSD. I'll @ even give you space on the various archive sites to store the diffs. @ @ Jordan @ Again...I do not expect IPv8 to go into FreeBSD...some people with FreeBSD systems and the ability to modify their kernels wanted to see a quick hack to be able to receive ( not send) IPv8 packets. I thought that was what freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org was about. I am sorry that I mentioned the simple "hack" here. Maybe I should have used freebsd-security@freebsd.org or freebsd-isp@freebsd.org because people could use the hack to detect if IPv8 packets are present on their LANs. They could also use the IPv8 format to help add additional security to their systems. Again, I do not expect IPv8 to go into FreeBSD. I assumed that FreeBSD users are at a level where they do not depend only on one feed. I can not imagine that FreeBSD users will restrict themselves to one source. If they are going to do that...they might as well us that N-Thing...:-) -- Jim Fleming UNETY Systems, Inc. Naperville, IL e-mail: JimFleming@unety.net From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 5 02:51:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA06700 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 5 May 1996 02:51:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA06663 Sun, 5 May 1996 02:51:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id LAA11214; Sun, 5 May 1996 11:51:29 +0200 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id LAA22144; Sun, 5 May 1996 11:51:28 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id LAA27588; Sun, 5 May 1996 11:25:43 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199605050925.LAA27588@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: MBUFs leaking? To: randy@zyzzyva.com (Randy Terbush) Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 11:25:42 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199605041319.IAA09788@sierra.zyzzyva.com> from Randy Terbush at "May 4, 96 08:18:48 am" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL15 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Randy Terbush wrote: > > I am currently struggling the the system tune stages after a > migration from NetBSD. Any pointers to info on tuning a system > for heavy use would be appreciated. ... > On NetBSD, I was in the habit of running my kernels with the > following. Does this have the same effect on FreeBSD, or are > there other things to tune? > > options NMBCLUSTERS=4096 It does the same. You might however have to quote the right-hand side to protect it from config misinterpreting it. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 5 06:18:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA15928 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 5 May 1996 06:18:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA15907 Sun, 5 May 1996 06:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uG3hA-000QYhC; Sun, 5 May 96 15:17 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id OAA13092; Sun, 5 May 1996 14:56:49 +0200 Message-Id: <199605051256.OAA13092@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: disklabel To: rg@gds.de (Richard Gresek) Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 14:56:49 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: <199605041849.UAA01481@gds.de> from "Richard Gresek" at May 4, 96 04:45:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Richard Gresek writes: > > I am trying to add a new disk but I do not succeed an 'disklabel' > since two days. Join the club. It's a real minefield. > I have already searched all docs available there, but I still seem > to miss something: You're definitely missing the docs I'm writing on the subject. If you want, I'll send you a draft copy (in PostScript). > I added the description of my drive (wdc) to /etc/disktab then enter > 'disklabel -w -r /dev/wd2s1 wdc'. The system replies back 'wdc: > unknown disk type'. Could it be that you forgot to terminate the last line of /etc/disktab? That will give you exactly this response. Greg From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 5 11:44:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA01820 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 5 May 1996 11:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.io.org (post.io.org [198.133.36.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA01815 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 11:44:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zot.io.org (taob@zot.io.org [198.133.36.82]) by post.io.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA25251 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 14:45:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 14:43:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Tao To: FREEBSD-ISP-L Subject: Any inn1.4unoff4 on 2.1R caveats? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk For some reason, innd core dumped three times so far today (and it's only early afternoon). It was behaving fairly well up until recently when two kernel panics caused reboots. Is there any way of tracking down the cause of the core dumps? Could it be a corrupt history file (how do I check)? I remember something about a bad cancel control message a couple months ago causing innd's all over the place to spew. I've turned off our outgoing feeds for now to narrow down the problem. I'm also upgrading from unoff3 to unoff4 to see if that will help. Have others noticed any unusual instabilities with their FreeBSD servers recently? Mine's a 2.1R box. Thanks. -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@io.org, taob@ican.net) Systems and Network Administrator, Internet Canada Corp. "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 5 19:53:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA01069 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 5 May 1996 19:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linkou.trace.com.tw (root@trace.com.tw [139.175.249.16]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA01061 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 19:53:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gate.trace.com.tw (ronald@gate.trace.com.tw [203.67.189.10]) by linkou.trace.com.tw (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA03118; Mon, 6 May 1996 10:54:48 +0800 Message-Id: <199605060254.KAA03118@linkou.trace.com.tw> From: "Ronald Wiplinger" To: "iap@vma.cc.nd.edu" , "Michael Dillon" Cc: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" , "linuxisp@lightning.com" Date: Mon, 06 May 96 10:52:29 +0800 Reply-To: "Ronald Wiplinger" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Ronald Wiplinger's Registered PMMail 1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Linux-ISP] US Justice Dept. Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 4 May 1996 00:30:19 -0700 (PDT), Michael Dillon wrote: >Now why would he want that list, hmmmm??? see George Orwell: 1984 > >Michael Dillon Voice: +1-604-546-8022 >Memra Software Inc. Fax: +1-604-546-3049 >http://www.memra.com E-mail: michael@memra.com > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 14:03:09 -0400 (EDT) >From: casey@justice.usdoj.gov >To: Firewalls@GreatCircle.COM >Subject: Firewalls-Digest V5 #289 > >I am looking for a list of all the Internet >Service Providers world-wide. Can anyone point me >in the right direction? > >Thanks in advance, > >Mary L. Casey, Program Analyst >Information Management & > Security Staff >Information Resources Management >Justice Management Division >U.S. Dept of Justice > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > To [un]subscribe to this list, contact linuxisp-request@lightning.com > Please send contributions for the mailing list to: linuxisp@lightning.com > Please contact the mailing-list-owner as: linuxisp-owner@lightning.com > ... for more information use: * http://www.trace.com.tw * gopher://gopher.trace.com.tw * ftp://ftp.trace.com.tw * telnet://bbs.trace.com.tw * sticky: Ronald gate.trace.com.tw (the very fast way to reach me) * finger (ronald@trace.com.tw) for more info (address,pgp key, .....) * for talk, P2P, InterCom (picture phone) ronald@gate.trace.com.tw * Tel: +886 2 609-0652, Fax: +886 2 600-0132, NET: +886 2 600-2318 Ronald Wiplinger [Taipei, 24h online] From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 5 21:47:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA07975 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 5 May 1996 21:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mars.dnai.com (mars.dnai.com [140.174.162.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA07970 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 21:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dror@localhost) by mars.dnai.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA20210; Sun, 5 May 1996 20:46:42 GMT Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 20:46:41 +0000 () From: Dror Matalon To: Brian Tao cc: FREEBSD-ISP-L Subject: Re: Any inn1.4unoff4 on 2.1R caveats? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 5 May 1996, Brian Tao wrote: > For some reason, innd core dumped three times so far today (and > it's only early afternoon). It was behaving fairly well up until > recently when two kernel panics caused reboots. > > Is there any way of tracking down the cause of the core dumps? > Could it be a corrupt history file (how do I check)? I remember > something about a bad cancel control message a couple months ago > causing innd's all over the place to spew. > > I've turned off our outgoing feeds for now to narrow down the > problem. I'm also upgrading from unoff3 to unoff4 to see if that will > help. Have others noticed any unusual instabilities with their > FreeBSD servers recently? Mine's a 2.1R box. Thanks. The following Perl script finds problems in your history files and fixes them. THe comments indicate how to use.it. Use at your own risk. #!/usr/local/bin/perl # # history database sanity checker # David Barr # version 1.1 # Throw away history entries with: # malformed lines (too long, contain nulls or special characters) # # INN Usage: # ctlinnd throttle 'fixing history' # ./fixhist history.n # makehistory -r -s `wc -l ) { chop; ($msgid,$dates,$arts,$xtra) = split('\t'); if ($xtra) { &tossit(); # too many fields next; } unless ($msgid) { &tossit(); # too few fields (emtpy, usually) next; } if (length($msgid) >= $MAXKEYLEN) { &tossit(); # message-id too long next; } if ($msgid !~ /^<[^< ]*>/) { &tossit(); # malformed msg-ids next; } if (/[\000-\010\012-\037\177-\377]/) { # non control-chars except tab &tossit(); # illegal chars next; } # if ($dates) { # ($date_a,$date_e,$date_p)= split('~'); # $date_e=0 if ($date_e='-'); # $date_p=0 if ($date_p='-'); # } # print "$_\n"; } sub tossit { print STDERR "$_\n"; } Dror Dror Matalon Voice: 510 649-6110 Direct Network Access Fax: 510 649-7130 2039 Shattuck Avenue Modem: 510 649-6116 Berkeley, CA 94704 Email: dror@dnai.com From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 5 21:57:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA08550 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 5 May 1996 21:57:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.io.org (post.io.org [198.133.36.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA08545 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 21:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zot.io.org (taob@zot.io.org [198.133.36.82]) by post.io.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA28593; Mon, 6 May 1996 00:58:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 00:56:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Tao To: Dror Matalon cc: FREEBSD-ISP-L Subject: Re: Any inn1.4unoff4 on 2.1R caveats? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 5 May 1996, Dror Matalon wrote: > > The following Perl script finds problems in your history files and fixes > them. THe comments indicate how to use.it. Use at your own risk. I ran the fixhist script this afternoon and it didn't find anything unusual. I traced the source of the segfault to the NGfind() routing in ng.c of innd. It's only a 6-line function that operates on the newsgroup hash table... I don't see anything in it that would all of a sudden cause segfaults at least once an hour. :( /* ** Hash a newsgroup and see if we get it. */ NEWSGROUP * NGfind(Name) char *Name; { register char *p; register int i; register unsigned int j; register NEWSGROUP **ngp; char c; NGHASH *htp; /* SUPPRESS 6 *//* Over/underflow from plus expression */ NGH_HASH(Name, p, j); htp = NGH_BUCKET(j); for (c = *Name, ngp = htp->Groups, i = htp->Used; --i >= 0; ngp++) if (c == ngp[0]->Name[0] && EQ(Name, ngp[0]->Name)) return ngp[0]; return NULL; } -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@io.org, taob@ican.net) Systems and Network Administrator, Internet Canada Corp. "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 5 22:38:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA11980 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 5 May 1996 22:38:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from okjunc.junction.net (root@okjunc.junction.net [199.166.227.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA11966 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 22:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sidhe.memra.com (sidhe.memra.com [199.166.227.105]) by okjunc.junction.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id VAA09621 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 21:52:25 -0700 Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 22:35:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Dillon To: FREEBSD-ISP-L Subject: Re: Any inn1.4unoff4 on 2.1R caveats? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Memra Software Inc. - Internet consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 6 May 1996, Brian Tao wrote: > > I ran the fixhist script this afternoon and it didn't find > anything unusual. I traced the source of the segfault to the NGfind() > routing in ng.c of innd. It's only a 6-line function that operates on > the newsgroup hash table... I don't see anything in it that would all > of a sudden cause segfaults at least once an hour. :( > > > /* > ** Hash a newsgroup and see if we get it. Is it possible that an absolute limit of the number of newsgroups has been passed? Might cause a wild pointer or something? Michael Dillon Voice: +1-604-546-8022 Memra Software Inc. Fax: +1-604-546-3049 http://www.memra.com E-mail: michael@memra.com From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 6 17:07:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA19162 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 6 May 1996 17:07:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from birk04.studby.uio.no (birk04.studby.uio.no [129.240.214.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA19154 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 17:07:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from aagero@localhost) by birk04.studby.uio.no (8.7.5/sendmail95) id CAA26733; Tue, 7 May 1996 02:07:18 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 02:07:18 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199605070007.CAA26733@birk04.studby.uio.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22=C5ge?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=F8bekk=22?= To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: routing question Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've got the following configuration: +----+ (3-bit) +----+ | |.58 129.240.214.56 .59| | | H1 |--------------------------| H2 | | | | | +----+ +----+ |.13 | |129.240.214 (9-bit) | |.1 +-----+ | | | R1 |--> (world) |cisco| +-----+ H1 is a FreeBSD box, acting as a router. I want to be able to access H2 from (world), how should I configure the freebsd box? Do I need access to R1 to set static network routes? H1's .58 interface has netmask 255.255.255.248, same goes for .59 on H2. -aage From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 6 19:26:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA01364 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 6 May 1996 19:26:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.238.120.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA01343 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 19:25:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from luiz@localhost) by mirage.nlink.com.br (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA14208; Mon, 6 May 1996 23:33:01 -0300 Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 23:33:00 -0300 (EST) From: Luiz de Barros To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22=C5ge?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=F8bekk=22?= cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: routing question In-Reply-To: <199605070007.CAA26733@birk04.studby.uio.no> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 7 May 1996, =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22=C5ge?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=F8bekk=22?= wrote: Hi, I think this would solve your problem. Put on H2 a default route via H1. On H1 put an arp entru for H2. on h1: arp -s 129.240.214.59 ethernet:address:of:adapter:.13 pub This will say to H1: " If a packet to .59 comes in here, get it" and as H1 knows how to deliver the packet it will make a bridge from the world to Host H2. I have here a simillar situation with a few hosts connected to the world via our isp by a serial line. Hope it helps. Luiz de Barros Netlink Internet Services. > I've got the following configuration: > > +----+ (3-bit) +----+ > | |.58 129.240.214.56 .59| | > | H1 |--------------------------| H2 | > | | | | > +----+ +----+ > |.13 > | > |129.240.214 (9-bit) > | > |.1 > +-----+ > | | > | R1 |--> (world) > |cisco| > +-----+ > > H1 is a FreeBSD box, acting as a router. I want to be able to access > H2 from (world), how should I configure the freebsd box? Do I need > access to R1 to set static network routes? H1's .58 interface has > netmask 255.255.255.248, same goes for .59 on H2. > > -aage > From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 7 09:42:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA18391 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 7 May 1996 09:42:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tchnet.tchnet.com (tchnet.tchnet.com [198.109.196.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA18386 for ; Tue, 7 May 1996 09:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dashadow@localhost) by tchnet.tchnet.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA08825; Tue, 7 May 1996 12:42:18 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 12:42:18 -0400 (EDT) From: John Hart To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Compatible Modems? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We seem to be having a problem lately with our Mac users trying to connect to our Boca modems. Does anyone know what can be done to fix this problem? Also, we have had a problem with some of our modems giving a few characters of garbage, and it forces the user to hit enter a few times before they receive a login prompt. I am not sure what is causing this, and would like any input to help me come to a solution... John ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Hart, System Administrator Technet Internet Services dashadow@tchnet.com (517)796-8200 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 7 17:32:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA29592 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 7 May 1996 17:32:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from etinc.com (etinc.com [204.141.244.98]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA29571 Tue, 7 May 1996 17:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-usr11.etinc.com (dialup-usr11.etinc.com [204.141.95.132]) by etinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA27804; Tue, 7 May 1996 20:40:46 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 20:40:46 -0400 Message-Id: <199605080040.UAA27804@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: dennis@etinc.com (dennis) Subject: High Speed Load Balancing Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, linuxisp@lightning.com Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Emerging Technologies announces the availability of multi-line load balancing features for it sychronous adapters for FreeBSD, Linux and BSD/OS. The new feature allows up to 8 lines or frame relay DLCIs to be "bundled" together in load balancing or fallback/backup configurations. Load balanced lines are bundled with a simple utility that builds stacks of "pipes" which are automatically balanced within the supplied drivers. Synchronous lines may be balanced along with frame relay dlcis to create simply yet powerful multi-path redundant networks. Individual lines or DLCIs can also be designated as "fallback" only, in which case traffic will be re-routed to those lines only if the primary pipe is out of service. The software also supports "directed" load-balancing, which allows administrators to target traffic from specifc sources to a specific pipe. As an example, an installation with 2 T1 lines could have all of its dial-up traffic routed to one T1 and all local and serial line traffic routed to the other. This can be used to create priority pipes or simply to assign bandwidth on a source by source basis. The next release will allow specific types of traffic to be routed to a particular pipe, such as WEB and FTP traffic to one pipe and TELNET and domain traffic to another. Information about these new features is available at www.etinc.com. From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 8 15:25:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA00535 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 8 May 1996 15:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sierra.zyzzyva.com (ppp0.zyzzyva.com [198.183.2.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00488 Wed, 8 May 1996 15:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zyzzyva.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sierra.zyzzyva.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id RAA06107; Wed, 8 May 1996 17:24:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199605082224.RAA06107@sierra.zyzzyva.com> To: et-users@netrail.net Subject: Continued MBUF problem with ET V.35 card Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org X-uri: http://www.zyzzyva.com/ Date: Wed, 08 May 1996 17:24:17 -0500 From: Randy Terbush Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As some of you may remember, I reported a problem with MBUF leakage on a FreeBSD-stable system running an Emerging Technologies ET5025 card. After Dennis' indication that the problem was FreeBSD-stable and rather strong suggestion that I need to be running 2.1.0, I have reinstalled this system running stock FreeBSD-2.1.0. The problem still exists and can be directly related to activity over the 56K connection. A much busier system of same kernel vintage without the ET drivers hovers at around '75 mbufs in use' after several days of uptime. The system will reach it's max of 4096K after about 48 hours of uptime and eventually reboot. I'm at a loss for how to track this down and would heartily welcome more productive suggestions. After: 5:12PM up 3:24, 1 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 => netstat -m 792 mbufs in use: 788 mbufs allocated to data 2 mbufs allocated to packet headers 1 mbufs allocated to protocol control blocks 1 mbufs allocated to socket names and addresses 349/354 mbuf clusters in use 807 Kbytes allocated to network (98% in use) 0 requests for memory denied 0 requests for memory delayed 0 calls to protocol drain routines => dmesg FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE #1: Tue May 7 20:32:31 CDT 1996 kroot@sierra:/disks/sd2/FreeBSD-2.1.0/src/sys/compile/Z_ROUTER CPU: 75-MHz Pentium 735\\90 or 815\\100 (Pentium-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x525 Stepping=5 Features=0x1bf real memory = 16777216 (16384K bytes) avail memory = 15007744 (14656K bytes) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: scprobe: keyboard RESET failed fe sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> eth0 at 0x240 irq 7 maddr 0xd0000 on isa ET/5025(-16) HDLC Driver v2.4beta8 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A sio2 not found at 0x3e8 sio3 not found at 0x2e8 fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 515MB (1056384 sectors), 1048 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S 1 3C5x9 board(s) on ISA found at 0x300 ep0 at 0x300-0x30f irq 10 on isa ep0: aui/bnc/utp[*UTP*] address 00:a0:24:6f:c6:6e irq 10 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface Probing for devices on the PCI bus: chip0 rev 1 on pci0:0 chip1 rev 2 on pci0:7 Warning: Can't set local address...may be duplicate # # $Id: ROUTER # machine "i386" cpu "I386_CPU" cpu "I486_CPU" cpu "I586_CPU" ident ROUTER maxusers 64 options GATEWAY options INET #InterNETworking options NMBCLUSTERS=4096 #Increase MBUFS options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 options "SCSI_DELAY=15" #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options COMCONSOLE #prefer serial console options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE options IPACCT options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG config kernel root on wd0 controller isa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr device sio2 at isa? port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 vector siointr device sio3 at isa? port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 vector siointr device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 vector epintr device eth0 at isa? port 0x240 net irq 7 iomem 0xd0000 vector ethintr pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device log pseudo-device sl 1 pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 8 18:43:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA21732 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 8 May 1996 18:43:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA21679 Wed, 8 May 1996 18:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA01217; Thu, 9 May 1996 11:18:23 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199605090148.LAA01217@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Continued MBUF problem with ET V.35 card To: randy@zyzzyva.com (Randy Terbush) Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 11:18:23 +0930 (CST) Cc: et-users@netrail.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199605082224.RAA06107@sierra.zyzzyva.com> from "Randy Terbush" at May 8, 96 05:24:17 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Randy Terbush stands accused of saying: > > As some of you may remember, I reported a problem with MBUF leakage > on a FreeBSD-stable system running an Emerging Technologies ET5025 > card. After Dennis' indication that the problem was FreeBSD-stable > and rather strong suggestion that I need to be running 2.1.0, I > have reinstalled this system running stock FreeBSD-2.1.0. The > problem still exists and can be directly related to activity over > the 56K connection. A much busier system of same kernel vintage > without the ET drivers hovers at around '75 mbufs in use' after > several days of uptime. The system will reach it's max of 4096K > after about 48 hours of uptime and eventually reboot. I'm at a loss > for how to track this down and would heartily welcome more > productive suggestions. Hit Dennis on the head and get him to admit that it's his drivers 8) > After: > 5:12PM up 3:24, 1 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 > > => netstat -m > 792 mbufs in use: > 788 mbufs allocated to data > 2 mbufs allocated to packet headers > 1 mbufs allocated to protocol control blocks > 1 mbufs allocated to socket names and addresses Something, somewhere, is using mbufs and not returning them. I'd go through all the drivers that you're using, and add tallies to them to keep track of how many mbufs they've allocated. Do it something like this : int ifep_mbuftally = 0; #define MBUFTALLY ifep_mbuftally int ifep_mbcltally = 0; #define MBCLTALLY ifep_mbcltally Check all the other places in the kernel where mbufs are allocated and freed, and modify them to suit. Make a list of all the files, and all the tally variables. Then frob the M* macros in /sys/sys/mbuf.h something like this : #define MGET(m, how, type) { \ MALLOC((m), struct mbuf *, MSIZE, mbtypes[type], (how)); \ if (m) { \ (m)->m_type = (type); \ MBUFLOCK(mbstat.m_mtypes[type]++;) \ (m)->m_next = (struct mbuf *)NULL; \ (m)->m_nextpkt = (struct mbuf *)NULL; \ (m)->m_data = (m)->m_dat; \ (m)->m_flags = 0; \ } else \ (m) = m_retry((how), (type)); \ #ifdef MBUFTALLY if (m) MBUFTALLY++; #endif } ... obviously you'll have to do the reverse in the *FREE cases. Build a kernel with these sources. Use the -g argument to config to get debugging symbols in the output. Copy the built kernel to kernel.debug, and then say 'strip -d kernel', and 'make install'. Reboot with the new kernel. Once it's running, you can say : # gdb --kernel --se=kernel.debug --exec=/kernel --core=/dev/mem Once in kgdb, you can use the 'print' command to show the value of the various tally variables that you defined before. This should help you work out who is eating all your mbufs. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 9 01:29:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA27557 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 9 May 1996 01:29:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA27500 Thu, 9 May 1996 01:28:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id BAA14028; Thu, 9 May 1996 01:28:40 -0700 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199605090828.BAA14028@MediaCity.com> Subject: Re: Continued MBUF problem with ET V.35 card To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 01:28:40 -0700 (PDT) Cc: randy@zyzzyva.com, et-users@netrail.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199605090148.LAA01217@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from Michael Smith at "May 9, 96 11:18:23 am" Reply-To: brian@MediaCity.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Michael Smith wrote: > Randy Terbush stands accused of saying: > > > > As some of you may remember, I reported a problem with MBUF leakage > > on a FreeBSD-stable system running an Emerging Technologies ET5025 > > card. After Dennis' indication that the problem was FreeBSD-stable > > and rather strong suggestion that I need to be running 2.1.0, I > > have reinstalled this system running stock FreeBSD-2.1.0. The > > problem still exists and can be directly related to activity over > > the 56K connection. A much busier system of same kernel vintage > > without the ET drivers hovers at around '75 mbufs in use' after > > several days of uptime. The system will reach it's max of 4096K > > after about 48 hours of uptime and eventually reboot. I'm at a loss > > for how to track this down and would heartily welcome more > > productive suggestions. > > Hit Dennis on the head and get him to admit that it's his drivers 8) Some months ago, I worked with Dennis to track down the mbuf leak problem. The leak was in FreeBSD code, not his driver. Disclaimer: dennis may have introduced a new leak since we worked on tracking down the one I ran into. Brian Litzinger brian@mediacity.com From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 9 01:52:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA01904 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 9 May 1996 01:52:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA01851 Thu, 9 May 1996 01:52:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA03198; Thu, 9 May 1996 01:51:35 -0700 (PDT) To: brian@MediaCity.com cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith), randy@zyzzyva.com, et-users@netrail.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Continued MBUF problem with ET V.35 card In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 09 May 1996 01:28:40 PDT." <199605090828.BAA14028@MediaCity.com> Date: Thu, 09 May 1996 01:51:35 -0700 Message-ID: <3196.831631895@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Some months ago, I worked with Dennis to track down the mbuf leak > problem. The leak was in FreeBSD code, not his driver. And you submitted it? I certainly fail to see what would be gained by _not_ submitting it, given that it's in everybody's best interest (Dennis's especially) to iron out any such problems in FreeBSD. Jordan From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 9 01:53:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA02048 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 9 May 1996 01:53:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA01935 Thu, 9 May 1996 01:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA04548; Thu, 9 May 1996 18:28:31 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199605090858.SAA04548@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Continued MBUF problem with ET V.35 card To: brian@MediaCity.com Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 18:28:30 +0930 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, randy@zyzzyva.com, et-users@netrail.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199605090828.BAA14028@MediaCity.com> from "Brian Litzinger" at May 9, 96 01:28:40 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Brian Litzinger stands accused of saying: > > > > Hit Dennis on the head and get him to admit that it's his drivers 8) > > Some months ago, I worked with Dennis to track down the mbuf leak > problem. The leak was in FreeBSD code, not his driver. I should have been more verbose there; it was meant as a joke (hence following up with a lengthy suggestion on mbuf-leak-tracing. > Disclaimer: dennis may have introduced a new leak since we worked on > tracking down the one I ran into. Did the leak you found get reported and fixed?? > Brian Litzinger -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 9 05:19:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA28697 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 9 May 1996 05:19:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA28658 Thu, 9 May 1996 05:18:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Root.COM (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id FAA02021; Thu, 9 May 1996 05:18:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199605091218.FAA02021@Root.COM> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.Root.COM: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: brian@MediaCity.com cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith), randy@zyzzyva.com, et-users@netrail.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Continued MBUF problem with ET V.35 card In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 09 May 1996 01:28:40 PDT." <199605090828.BAA14028@MediaCity.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Thu, 09 May 1996 05:18:15 -0700 Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Michael Smith wrote: >> Randy Terbush stands accused of saying: >> > >> > As some of you may remember, I reported a problem with MBUF leakage >> > on a FreeBSD-stable system running an Emerging Technologies ET5025 >> > card. After Dennis' indication that the problem was FreeBSD-stable >> > and rather strong suggestion that I need to be running 2.1.0, I >> > have reinstalled this system running stock FreeBSD-2.1.0. The >> > problem still exists and can be directly related to activity over >> > the 56K connection. A much busier system of same kernel vintage >> > without the ET drivers hovers at around '75 mbufs in use' after >> > several days of uptime. The system will reach it's max of 4096K >> > after about 48 hours of uptime and eventually reboot. I'm at a loss >> > for how to track this down and would heartily welcome more >> > productive suggestions. >> >> Hit Dennis on the head and get him to admit that it's his drivers 8) > >Some months ago, I worked with Dennis to track down the mbuf leak >problem. The leak was in FreeBSD code, not his driver. Yes, and for the record this was caused by a small change to the MGET/MFREE macros. We used to have a private pool of mbufs to optimize performance, but this was found to conflict with the allocation-type tracking in malloc() and lead to system instabilities. By reverting the macros back to their originals, the code in Dennis's driver that allocated and freed mbufs was still sticking them in this private pool - one the rest of the system didn't know about, and thus the "leak". There have been no changes to the mbuf allocation code since then. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 9 08:59:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA18437 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 9 May 1996 08:59:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sierra.zyzzyva.com (ppp0.zyzzyva.com [198.183.2.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA18382 Thu, 9 May 1996 08:59:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zyzzyva.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sierra.zyzzyva.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA24196; Thu, 9 May 1996 10:59:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199605091559.KAA24196@sierra.zyzzyva.com> To: Michael Smith cc: brian@mediacity.com, et-users@netrail.net, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Continued MBUF problem with ET V.35 card In-reply-to: msmith's message of Thu, 09 May 1996 18:28:30 +0930. <199605090858.SAA04548@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> X-uri: http://www.zyzzyva.com/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 09 May 1996 10:59:02 -0500 From: Randy Terbush Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Brian Litzinger stands accused of saying: > > > > > > Hit Dennis on the head and get him to admit that it's his drivers 8) > > > > Some months ago, I worked with Dennis to track down the mbuf leak > > problem. The leak was in FreeBSD code, not his driver. > > I should have been more verbose there; it was meant as a joke (hence > following up with a lengthy suggestion on mbuf-leak-tracing. > > > Disclaimer: dennis may have introduced a new leak since we worked on > > tracking down the one I ran into. > > Did the leak you found get reported and fixed?? > Did this get fixed? I find that the problem exists both in 2.1.0 and -stable. I can directly connect this problem to packets going over the V.35 interface. From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 9 09:05:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA19049 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 9 May 1996 09:05:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sierra.zyzzyva.com (ppp0.zyzzyva.com [198.183.2.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA19012 Thu, 9 May 1996 09:05:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zyzzyva.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sierra.zyzzyva.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA24496; Thu, 9 May 1996 11:05:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199605091605.LAA24496@sierra.zyzzyva.com> To: davidg@root.com cc: brian@mediacity.com, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith), et-users@netrail.net, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Continued MBUF problem with ET V.35 card In-reply-to: davidg's message of Thu, 09 May 1996 05:18:15 -0700. <199605091218.FAA02021@Root.COM> X-uri: http://www.zyzzyva.com/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 09 May 1996 11:05:00 -0500 From: Randy Terbush Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >> Hit Dennis on the head and get him to admit that it's his drivers 8) > > > >Some months ago, I worked with Dennis to track down the mbuf leak > >problem. The leak was in FreeBSD code, not his driver. > > Yes, and for the record this was caused by a small change to the MGET/MFREE > macros. We used to have a private pool of mbufs to optimize performance, but > this was found to conflict with the allocation-type tracking in malloc() and > lead to system instabilities. By reverting the macros back to their originals, > the code in Dennis's driver that allocated and freed mbufs was still sticking > them in this private pool - one the rest of the system didn't know about, and > thus the "leak". > There have been no changes to the mbuf allocation code since then. > > -DG Could someone help me with version numbers in these changes? I'm finding that the problem exists in 2.1.0 and -stable. What version was changed? What version was reverted? In which branch is this fixed? This discussion is very helpful. Please expand. From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 9 09:34:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA21018 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 9 May 1996 09:34:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA20980 Thu, 9 May 1996 09:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Root.COM (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA02520; Thu, 9 May 1996 09:33:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199605091633.JAA02520@Root.COM> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.Root.COM: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Randy Terbush cc: brian@mediacity.com, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith), et-users@netrail.net, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Continued MBUF problem with ET V.35 card In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 09 May 1996 11:05:00 CDT." <199605091605.LAA24496@sierra.zyzzyva.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Thu, 09 May 1996 09:33:11 -0700 Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> >> Hit Dennis on the head and get him to admit that it's his drivers 8) >> > >> >Some months ago, I worked with Dennis to track down the mbuf leak >> >problem. The leak was in FreeBSD code, not his driver. >> >> Yes, and for the record this was caused by a small change to the MGET/MFREE >> macros. We used to have a private pool of mbufs to optimize performance, but >> this was found to conflict with the allocation-type tracking in malloc() and >> lead to system instabilities. By reverting the macros back to their originals, >> the code in Dennis's driver that allocated and freed mbufs was still sticking >> them in this private pool - one the rest of the system didn't know about, and >> thus the "leak". >> There have been no changes to the mbuf allocation code since then. >> >> -DG > >Could someone help me with version numbers in these changes? > >I'm finding that the problem exists in 2.1.0 and -stable. >What version was changed? >What version was reverted? >In which branch is this fixed? > >This discussion is very helpful. Please expand. The above is not applicable to FreeBSD 2.1. The problem that Dennis encountered was in FreeBSD 2.0, and it wasn't really a problem with FreeBSD. The solution was for Dennis to recompile his driver. No source changes were needed. ...but to answer your question directly: (/sys/sys/mbuf.h) ---------------------------- revision 1.8 date: 1994/11/04 00:28:38; author: davidg; state: Exp; lines: +4 -32 Backed out mbuf performance improvement. mbufs are allocated with various different types, and with the 'local cache', what is freed isn't necessarily what was originally malloced. This screws malloc's statistics and type allocation limits, resulting eventually in a deadlock when one of the limits is bogusly reached. Recent performance tests on a Pentium machine indicate no improvement with this optimization anyway (this is something to be looked at further). ---------------------------- -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 9 09:58:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA23155 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 9 May 1996 09:58:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sierra.zyzzyva.com (ppp0.zyzzyva.com [198.183.2.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA23125 Thu, 9 May 1996 09:57:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zyzzyva.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sierra.zyzzyva.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA25376; Thu, 9 May 1996 11:57:49 -0500 (CDT) Resent-Message-Id: <199605091657.LAA25376@sierra.zyzzyva.com> Message-Id: <199605091657.LAA25376@sierra.zyzzyva.com> To: davidg@root.com Subject: Re: Continued MBUF problem with ET V.35 card In-reply-to: davidg's message of Thu, 09 May 1996 09:33:11 -0700. <199605091633.JAA02520@Root.COM> X-uri: http://www.zyzzyva.com/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 09 May 1996 11:52:08 -0500 From: Randy Terbush Resent-cc: current@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Resent-Date: Thu, 09 May 1996 11:57:49 -0500 Resent-From: Randy Terbush Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >> >> Hit Dennis on the head and get him to admit that it's his drivers 8) > >> > > >> >Some months ago, I worked with Dennis to track down the mbuf leak > >> >problem. The leak was in FreeBSD code, not his driver. > > > >Could someone help me with version numbers in these changes? > > > >I'm finding that the problem exists in 2.1.0 and -stable. > >What version was changed? > >What version was reverted? > >In which branch is this fixed? > > > >This discussion is very helpful. Please expand. > > The above is not applicable to FreeBSD 2.1. The problem that Dennis > encountered was in FreeBSD 2.0, and it wasn't really a problem with FreeBSD. > The solution was for Dennis to recompile his driver. No source changes were > needed. ...but to answer your question directly: > > (/sys/sys/mbuf.h) > ---------------------------- > revision 1.8 Both 2.1.0 and -stable sport version 1.9. Could someone share a copy of version 1.8 so that I could see what has changed since 1.8? Thanks again David. From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 9 11:31:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA01016 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 9 May 1996 11:31:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yuri.microsoft.com (exchange.microsoft.com [131.107.243.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA00997 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 11:31:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yuri.microsoft.com with Microsoft Exchange (IMC 4.0.838.14) id <01BB3D9A.FB60BEA0@yuri.microsoft.com>; Thu, 9 May 1996 11:30:53 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Scott Overholser (Volt Computer) (Exchange)" To: "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" Subject: FreeBSD/Cyclades cyclom-8yo terminal server Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 11:30:56 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.838.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk i am attempting to build a terminal server with an old 386, a cyclades cyclom-8yo, and freebsd 2.1.0-release. i've run into several difficulties along the way. the current one is that i can't establish a ppp session. my test config is a linux box (known good client configuration) and the freebsd terminal server. i'll include the log messages below. ppp was working but connections were limited to 9600. a bit of tweeking with the initial-state and lock-state devices in rc.serial fixed that but broke ppp?! thanks scotto p.s. here's the log files: btw: the freebsd login is ppp0 ---------->%snip>%---------- =-=-=-=-=- thing log -=-=-=-=-=-= May 8 22:27:24 thing login: login on ttyc0 as ppp0 May 8 22:27:25 thing pppd[485]: pppd 2.1.2 started by ppp0, uid 2000 May 8 22:27:25 thing pppd[485]: Using interface ppp0 May 8 22:27:25 thing pppd[485]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyc0 May 8 22:27:27 thing /kernel: ppp0: missing UI (0x3), got 0xa6 May 8 22:27:55 thing pppd[485]: Hangup (SIGHUP) May 8 22:27:55 thing pppd[485]: fcntl(F_SETFL, fdflags): Inappropriate ioctl for device May 8 22:27:55 thing pppd[485]: ioctl(TIOCSETD): Inappropriate ioctl for device May 8 22:27:55 thing pppd[485]: tcsetattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device May 8 22:27:55 thing pppd[485]: Exit. ---> here's another attempt May 8 22:33:52 thing login: login on ttyc0 as ppp0 May 8 22:33:52 thing pppd[666]: pppd 2.1.2 started by ppp0, uid 2000 May 8 22:33:53 thing pppd[666]: Using interface ppp0 May 8 22:33:53 thing pppd[666]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyc0 May 8 22:33:55 thing /kernel: ppp0: garbage received: 0xe7 (need 0xFF) May 8 22:34:10 thing /kernel: ppp0: garbage received: 0x59 (need 0xFF) May 8 22:34:16 thing /kernel: ppp0: garbage received: 0xbf (need 0xFF) May 8 22:34:23 thing pppd[666]: Hangup (SIGHUP) May 8 22:34:23 thing pppd[666]: fcntl(F_SETFL, fdflags): Inappropriate ioctl for device May 8 22:34:23 thing pppd[666]: ioctl(TIOCSETD): Inappropriate ioctl for device May 8 22:34:23 thing pppd[666]: tcsetattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device May 8 22:34:23 thing pppd[666]: Exit. =-=-=-=- torii log -=-=-=-=-=-= May 8 22:44:19 torii chat[229]: abort on (NO CARRIER) May 8 22:44:19 torii chat[229]: abort on (BUSY) May 8 22:44:19 torii chat[229]: send (ATZ^M) May 8 22:44:20 torii chat[229]: expect (OK) May 8 22:44:20 torii chat[229]: ATZ May 8 22:44:20 torii chat[229]: May 8 22:44:20 torii chat[229]: May 8 22:44:20 torii chat[229]: OK -- got it May 8 22:44:20 torii chat[229]: send (ATS7=45S0=0L1V1X4&c1E1Q0DT5474117^M) May 8 22:44:21 torii chat[229]: expect (CONNECT 14400/REL-LAPM-COMP) May 8 22:44:21 torii chat[229]: May 8 22:44:21 torii chat[229]: May 8 22:44:21 torii chat[229]: ATS7=45S0=0L1V1X4&c1E1Q0DT5474117 May 8 22:44:38 torii chat[229]: May 8 22:44:38 torii chat[229]: May 8 22:44:38 torii chat[229]: CONNECT 14400/REL-LAPM-COMP -- got it May 8 22:44:38 torii chat[229]: send (^M) May 8 22:44:38 torii chat[229]: timeout set to 5 seconds May 8 22:44:38 torii chat[229]: expect (ogin:) May 8 22:44:38 torii chat[229]: May 8 22:44:38 torii chat[229]: May 8 22:44:38 torii chat[229]: b (^E# May 8 22:44:38 torii chat[229]: *\"%.ik7-zp*Z May 8 22:44:38 torii chat[229]: 97r May 8 22:44:38 torii chat[229]: ^I^A^\^AxY(ah May 8 22:44:38 torii chat[229]: May 8 22:44:38 torii chat[229]: May 8 22:44:38 torii chat[229]: FreeBSD (thing.spi.net) (ttyc0) May 8 22:44:38 torii chat[229]: May 8 22:44:38 torii last message repeated 4 times May 8 22:44:38 torii chat[229]: login: -- got it May 8 22:44:38 torii chat[229]: send (ppp0^M) May 8 22:44:39 torii chat[229]: expect (ssword:) May 8 22:44:39 torii chat[229]: ppp0 May 8 22:44:39 torii chat[229]: May 8 22:44:39 torii chat[229]: Password: -- got it May 8 22:44:39 torii chat[229]: send (??????) May 8 22:44:39 torii pppd[230]: pppd 2.1.2 started by root, uid 0 May 8 22:44:39 torii kernel: ppp: channel ppp0 mtu = 1500, mru = 1500 May 8 22:44:39 torii kernel: ppp: channel ppp0 open May 8 22:44:39 torii kernel: ppp_ioctl: set debug level 5, netpacket 0 May 8 22:44:39 torii pppd[231]: set kernel debugging level to 5 May 8 22:44:39 torii pppd[231]: Using interface ppp0 May 8 22:44:39 torii kernel: ppp_ioctl: set xasyncmap May 8 22:44:39 torii pppd[231]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/modem May 8 22:44:39 torii kernel: ppp_ioctl: set xmit asyncmap ffffffff May 8 22:44:39 torii kernel: ppp_ioctl: set flags to a000000 May 8 22:44:39 torii kernel: ppp_ioctl: set mru to 1500 May 8 22:44:39 torii kernel: ppp_ioctl: set recv asyncmap 0 May 8 22:44:39 torii kernel: ppp_ioctl: set flags to a000010 May 8 22:45:09 torii kernel: ppp_ioctl: get debug level 5 May 8 22:45:09 torii kernel: ppp_ioctl: set debug level 2, netpacket 0 May 8 22:45:09 torii kernel: ppp: channel ppp0 going down for IP packets! May 8 22:45:09 torii kernel: ppp: channel ppp0 closing. May 8 22:45:09 torii pppd[231]: Connection terminated. May 8 22:45:09 torii pppd[231]: set kernel debugging level to 2 May 8 22:45:09 torii pppd[231]: Exit. ---------->%snip>%---------- From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 9 11:52:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA03047 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 9 May 1996 11:52:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA03029 Thu, 9 May 1996 11:52:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-1) with ESMTP id TAA26331 ; Thu, 9 May 1996 19:49:34 +0100 (BST) To: Randy Terbush cc: davidg@root.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Continued MBUF problem with ET V.35 card In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 09 May 1996 11:52:08 CDT." <199605091657.LAA25376@sierra.zyzzyva.com> Date: Thu, 09 May 1996 19:49:34 +0100 Message-ID: <26329.831667774@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Randy Terbush wrote in message ID <199605091657.LAA25376@sierra.zyzzyva.com>: > Both 2.1.0 and -stable sport version 1.9. Could someone share a copy > of version 1.8 so that I could see what has changed since 1.8? > Thanks again David. Enclosed is a diff between 1.8 and 1.9 along with the log message. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD - Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info. ---------------------------- revision 1.9 date: 1994/11/14 13:54:20; author: bde; state: Exp; lines: +6 -5 Declare a complete prototype for the function pointer *ext_free and the function m_devget. Uniformize idempotency ifdef. ---------------------------- Index: mbuf.h =================================================================== RCS file: /mnt/usr/home/ncvs/src/sys/sys/mbuf.h,v retrieving revision 1.8 retrieving revision 1.9 diff -r1.8 -r1.9 34c34 < * $Id: mbuf.h,v 1.8 1994/11/04 00:28:38 davidg Exp $ --- > * $Id: mbuf.h,v 1.9 1994/11/14 13:54:20 bde Exp $ 89c89,90 < void (*ext_free)(); /* free routine if not the usual */ --- > void (*ext_free) /* free routine if not the usual */ > __P((caddr_t, u_int)); 388,389c389,390 < struct mbuf *m_devget __P((char *,int,int,struct ifnet*,void (*copy)())); < --- > struct mbuf *m_devget __P((char *, int, int, struct ifnet *, > void (*copy)(struct mbuf *, caddr_t, u_int))); 416c417 < #endif --- > #endif /* !_SYS_MBUF_H_ */ From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 9 16:28:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA04245 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 9 May 1996 16:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix.stylo.it (unix.stylo.it [194.21.207.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA04234 Thu, 9 May 1996 16:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from servernt.stylo.it (mail.stylo.it [194.21.207.13]) by unix.stylo.it (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA16126; Fri, 10 May 1996 01:33:07 +0200 Received: by servernt.stylo.it with Microsoft Exchange (IMC 4.12.736) id <01BB3E0F.CDC4A9F0@servernt.stylo.it>; Fri, 10 May 1996 01:27:08 +0200 Message-ID: From: Angelo Turetta To: "'freebsd-questions'" , "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" Subject: How to add a delay before getty displays login prompt ? Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 01:28:38 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.12.736 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BB3E0F.CDC4A9F0" Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. Contact your mail administrator for information about upgrading your reader to a version that supports MIME. ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB3E0F.CDC4A9F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm setting up a few dial-in ports equipped with US-Robotics Sportster 28.8 V34 modems. The PC is a 386-40/8MB, dedicated to this task, running FreeBSD 2.1.0R. This are the ttys lines I'm using cuaa2 "/usr/libexec/getty std.38400" dialup on secure # Stallion EasyIO/8 cue0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.38400" dialup on secure Just after the carrier goes up, about at the same time the client reports 'CONNECT 28800', the server hangs up the call. This happens about 33% times when using a normal 16550 port (cuaa2), and about 75% times when the modem is connected to a Stallion EasyIO/8. I suspect that getty is displaying the prompt string a little too early for the Sportster, and often the modem is still in the phase where any character from the host aborts the connection. Reading 'man gettytab' I've not found any parameter to instert a delay between the DCD and the first write. Any experience with that ? Am I wrong with some configuration item ? Thanks in advance. Angelo. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Angelo Turetta mailto:aturetta@stylo.it Stylo Multimedia - Bologna - Italy http://www.stylo.it/ ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB3E0F.CDC4A9F0-- From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 9 16:50:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA07633 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 9 May 1996 16:50:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA07578 Thu, 9 May 1996 16:50:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA08967; Thu, 9 May 1996 16:49:09 -0700 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199605092349.QAA08967@MediaCity.com> Subject: Re: Continued MBUF problem with ET V.35 card To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 16:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, randy@zyzzyva.com, et-users@netrail.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3196.831631895@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "May 9, 96 01:51:35 am" Reply-To: brian@MediaCity.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk brian wrote: > > Some months ago, I worked with Dennis to track down the mbuf leak > > problem. The leak was in FreeBSD code, not his driver. > Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > And you submitted it? I certainly fail to see what would be gained by > _not_ submitting it, given that it's in everybody's best interest > (Dennis's especially) to iron out any such problems in FreeBSD. Stretching my memory, part of the problem was related to the myriad of different versions of FreeBSD. The problem existed in some versions and not others. At the time, it seemed that the code was headed in the right direction on its own. -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 9 16:59:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA08868 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 9 May 1996 16:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chloe.dmv.com (root@chloe.dmv.com [206.30.64.31]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA08816 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 16:59:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from patrick@localhost) by chloe.dmv.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00810; Thu, 9 May 1996 20:02:28 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 20:02:28 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.3-beta [p0] on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960430171457.00872294@pop.calweb.com> Reply-To: patrick@chloe.dmv.com Organization: DelMarVa Online From: Patrick Ferguson To: Jason Fesler Subject: Re: POP timeout Cc: , Bruce Bauman Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue Apr 30 20:01:34 1996 Jason Fesler wrote: >>At 08:59 AM 4/30/96 -0400, you wrote: >>We are running FreeBSD 2.1 at our small ISP. Customers have occasionally >>been complaining about being unable to communicate with our mail server >>via POP. If I check our log files, I see messages like the following: > >One thing to check is the *size* of the mailbox being checked. >qpopper's major weak point is with large mailboxes, as every time >someone checks their mail, qpopper has to scan the entire mailbox >file. > >Leave it to the local wArEz kiddies to try and trade via email to >prove this particularly weak point in qpopper, by sending each other >10-20 megabyte email messages.. > >-- > Jason Fesler jfesler@calweb.com > Admin, CalWeb Internet Services jfroot@calweb.com > I like my Usenet over ice, please. http://www.gigo.com > Disclaimer: My /dev/null can beat your /dev/null any day. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Ferguson - Systems Administrator patrick@dmv.com DelMarVa OnLine! - Salisbury, MD -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQBNAzGBrOQAAAECALpR8GMUAXnKbr9LeXVv18Q8y/n1NM1+YS8ffP/5HvM0gyso F1T9+gcGvb3L2nFwj+wnig0UQY93vXqhXPoFN4UABRG0IlBhdHJpY2sgRmVyZ3Vz b24gPHBhdHJpY2tAZG12LmNvbT4= =AgnQ -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 9 17:20:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA13284 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 9 May 1996 17:20:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chloe.dmv.com (root@chloe.dmv.com [206.30.64.31]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA13263 Thu, 9 May 1996 17:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from patrick@localhost) by chloe.dmv.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00885; Thu, 9 May 1996 20:24:23 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 20:24:23 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.3-beta [p0] on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <9605011412.AA03126@www> Reply-To: patrick@chloe.dmv.com Organization: DelMarVa Online From: Patrick Ferguson To: Joel Kelmenson Subject: RE: Multiple disks for news server? Cc: , Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed May 1 15:34:52 1996 Joel Kelmenson wrote: >>I would like to thank everyone who replyed to my question >about the best setup for a news server. All of your input >was most valuable. This is a great forum! > >I try not to post any questions in this list unless I can't >find the answers from the archives from this list. > > > >Joe Greco wrote:> > >Remember the golden news rule, > >MORE DRIVES TRANSLATES INTO MORE THROUGHPUT. > >You would rather have four 2GB Hawk > >drives than two 4GB Barracuda's. > >My question is, how do I span the news over multiple disks. > >I have seen some answers to this but it was a little to tech. >for me to get a good understanding where to start. If someone >could shed some light on this I would once again be very grateful. > >Examples would also be helpful, if possible. > >Joel > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Ferguson - Systems Administrator patrick@dmv.com DelMarVa OnLine! - Salisbury, MD -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQBNAzGBrOQAAAECALpR8GMUAXnKbr9LeXVv18Q8y/n1NM1+YS8ffP/5HvM0gyso F1T9+gcGvb3L2nFwj+wnig0UQY93vXqhXPoFN4UABRG0IlBhdHJpY2sgRmVyZ3Vz b24gPHBhdHJpY2tAZG12LmNvbT4= =AgnQ -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 9 17:21:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA13420 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 9 May 1996 17:21:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chloe.dmv.com (root@chloe.dmv.com [206.30.64.31]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA13404 Thu, 9 May 1996 17:21:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from patrick@localhost) by chloe.dmv.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00896; Thu, 9 May 1996 20:24:58 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 20:24:58 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.3-beta [p0] on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <9605011412.AA03126@www> Reply-To: patrick@chloe.dmv.com Organization: DelMarVa Online From: Patrick Ferguson To: Subject: SNMP ? Cc: Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone found an X client for snmp, like netguard? I've also seen the isode package for BSDI, and was curious if there is one for FreeBSD. Thanks for any info. DelMarVa OnLine! - Salisbury, MD -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQBNAzGBrOQAAAECALpR8GMUAXnKbr9LeXVv18Q8y/n1NM1+YS8ffP/5HvM0gyso F1T9+gcGvb3L2nFwj+wnig0UQY93vXqhXPoFN4UABRG0IlBhdHJpY2sgRmVyZ3Vz b24gPHBhdHJpY2tAZG12LmNvbT4= =AgnQ -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 9 17:43:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA17686 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 9 May 1996 17:43:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA17638 Thu, 9 May 1996 17:42:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA18101; Fri, 10 May 1996 10:40:48 +1000 Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 10:40:48 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199605100040.KAA18101@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: brian@mediacity.com, davidg@Root.COM Subject: Re: Continued MBUF problem with ET V.35 card Cc: current@FreeBSD.org, et-users@netrail.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, randy@zyzzyva.com, stable@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Yes, and for the record this was caused by a small change to the MGET/MFREE >macros. We used to have a private pool of mbufs to optimize performance, but >this was found to conflict with the allocation-type tracking in malloc() and >lead to system instabilities. By reverting the macros back to their originals, >the code in Dennis's driver that allocated and freed mbufs was still sticking >them in this private pool - one the rest of the system didn't know about, and >thus the "leak". > There have been no changes to the mbuf allocation code since then. Except in -current a couple of days ago. It no longer uses malloc() or allocation-type tracking except for one stray allocation for `mclrefcnt' in machdep.c. machdep.c also refers to to the wrong entry point for the no-wait case (kmem_alloc instead of kmem_malloc). A comment in vm_kern.c bogusly says that "only malloc() uses this routine". It is used by the mbuf allocation routines too. Bruce From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 9 17:51:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA19220 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 9 May 1996 17:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA19209 Thu, 9 May 1996 17:51:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-1) with ESMTP id BAA27804 ; Fri, 10 May 1996 01:50:53 +0100 (BST) To: patrick@chloe.dmv.com cc: freebsd-questions , freebsd-isp From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: SNMP ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 09 May 1996 20:24:58 EDT." Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 01:50:52 +0100 Message-ID: <27802.831689452@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Patrick Ferguson wrote in message ID : > > Has anyone found an X client for snmp, like netguard? I've also seen the isode > package for BSDI, and was curious if there is one for FreeBSD. > Thanks for any info. You can try tkined (and `scotty', it's back end). It has SNMP monitoring/ querying facilities. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD - Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info. From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 9 18:18:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA24666 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 9 May 1996 18:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chloe.dmv.com (root@chloe.dmv.com [206.30.64.31]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA24600 Thu, 9 May 1996 18:18:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from patrick@localhost) by chloe.dmv.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA03451; Thu, 9 May 1996 21:21:32 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 21:21:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Patrick Ferguson To: Gary Palmer cc: freebsd-questions , freebsd-isp Subject: Re: SNMP ? In-Reply-To: <27802.831689452@palmer.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 10 May 1996, Gary Palmer wrote: > Patrick Ferguson wrote in message ID > : > > > > Has anyone found an X client for snmp, like netguard? I've also seen the isode > > package for BSDI, and was curious if there is one for FreeBSD. > > Thanks for any info. > > You can try tkined (and `scotty', it's back end). It has SNMP > monitoring/ querying facilities. > > Gary > -- > Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member > FreeBSD - Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info. > Cool. I found xnetdb and compiled it. Runs okay, and I use it to monitor the up/down status of the interfaces of different hosts. I've got 11 Xylogics Annexs, and I was interested in using their Annex Manager Software. Big problem - they only release the binaries for AIX, Sun, and SCO. I talked to them, hoping (beyond hope) that they would cut a deal and I'd give them an account just to compile it under FreeBSD, BSDI, and Irix. They told me they felt they weren't going to just release the source, and since they covered 80% of the commercial market, oh well. I feel it's because they have limited computers to compile it on. I even had to explain to them just why I wanted to compile it for FreeBSD and why I didn't own a Sun or an IBM. I haven't heard back from them yet.... Anyways, I'll install tkined and take a look at how it is different from xnetdb. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick Ferguson - Systems Administrator patrick@dmv.com DelMarVa OnLine! - Salisbury, MD -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQBNAzGBrOQAAAECALpR8GMUAXnKbr9LeXVv18Q8y/n1NM1+YS8ffP/5HvM0gyso F1T9+gcGvb3L2nFwj+wnig0UQY93vXqhXPoFN4UABRG0IlBhdHJpY2sgRmVyZ3Vz b24gPHBhdHJpY2tAZG12LmNvbT4= =AgnQ -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 9 18:37:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA28360 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 9 May 1996 18:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (root@gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA28353 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 18:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by gallup.cia-g.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA03525; Thu, 9 May 1996 19:38:03 -0600 Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 19:38:01 -0600 (MDT) From: Stephen Fisher To: Patrick Ferguson cc: Jason Fesler , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, Bruce Bauman Subject: Re: POP timeout In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well, that's good to know, now how do we fix it? Switch to another popd? Change something in qpopper? On Thu, 9 May 1996, Patrick Ferguson wrote: > On Tue Apr 30 20:01:34 1996 Jason Fesler wrote: > >>At 08:59 AM 4/30/96 -0400, you wrote: > >>We are running FreeBSD 2.1 at our small ISP. Customers have occasionally > >>been complaining about being unable to communicate with our mail server > >>via POP. If I check our log files, I see messages like the following: > > > >One thing to check is the *size* of the mailbox being checked. > >qpopper's major weak point is with large mailboxes, as every time > >someone checks their mail, qpopper has to scan the entire mailbox > >file. > > > >Leave it to the local wArEz kiddies to try and trade via email to > >prove this particularly weak point in qpopper, by sending each other > >10-20 megabyte email messages.. From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 9 20:14:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA13334 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 9 May 1996 20:14:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from digital.netvoyage.net (root@digital.netvoyage.net [205.162.154.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA13309 Thu, 9 May 1996 20:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bogawa@localhost) by digital.netvoyage.net (8.6.13/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA22124; Thu, 9 May 1996 20:13:25 -0700 Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 20:13:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Bryan Ogawa at Work To: Patrick Ferguson cc: Joel Kelmenson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Multiple disks for news server? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 9 May 1996, Patrick Ferguson wrote: > On Wed May 1 15:34:52 1996 Joel Kelmenson wrote: > >>I would like to thank everyone who replyed to my question > >about the best setup for a news server. All of your input > >was most valuable. This is a great forum! > > > >I try not to post any questions in this list unless I can't > >find the answers from the archives from this list. > > > > > > >Joe Greco wrote:> > > >Remember the golden news rule, > > >MORE DRIVES TRANSLATES INTO MORE THROUGHPUT. > > >You would rather have four 2GB Hawk > > >drives than two 4GB Barracuda's. > > > >My question is, how do I span the news over multiple disks. > > > >I have seen some answers to this but it was a little to tech. > >for me to get a good understanding where to start. If someone > >could shed some light on this I would once again be very grateful. > > > >Examples would also be helpful, if possible. [...] The absolutely best thing to look at in this case is the INN Faq. You can get it from ftp.math.psu.edu in the /pub/INN directory, I think. It includes a cookbook example of converting a working INN to a working INN spanned over multiple disks via symlinks, including the shell commands to move the files from drive to drive. Once your INN supports symlinks, it's really pretty easy to get it to go from one drive to another. The only thing to do before the example, if I remember correctly, would get the drive up an running on FreeBSD as a single partition (slice?). bryan Bryan K. Ogawa Questions or Problems with NetVoyage? help@netvoyage.net Check out the NetVoyage HelpWeb at.. From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 9 21:16:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA21905 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 9 May 1996 21:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irbs.irbs.com (irbs.com [199.182.75.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA21877 Thu, 9 May 1996 21:16:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jc@localhost) by irbs.irbs.com (8.7.5/8.6.6) id AAA19162; Fri, 10 May 1996 00:15:33 -0400 (EDT) From: John Capo Message-Id: <199605100415.AAA19162@irbs.irbs.com> Subject: Re: How to add a delay before getty displays login prompt ? To: ATuretta@stylo.it (Angelo Turetta) Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 00:15:32 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from Angelo Turetta at "May 10, 96 01:28:38 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Angelo Turetta writes: > [...] > I suspect that getty is displaying the prompt string a little too early for > the Sportster, and often the modem is still in the phase where any character > from the host aborts the connection. > Reading 'man gettytab' I've not found any parameter to instert a delay > between the DCD and the first write. > I haven't tried this but :im=\0:pf#5: omits the initial banner and delays 5 seconds before issuing the login: prompt. Or add sleep(5); above this piece of code in getty/main.c, around line 226. if (IM && *IM) putf(IM); John Capo jc@irbs.com IRBS Engineering FreeBSD Servers and Workstations (954) 792-9551 Unix/Internet Consulting - ISP Solutions From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 9 21:24:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA23314 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 9 May 1996 21:24:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (root@gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA23307 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 21:24:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by gallup.cia-g.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA06187; Thu, 9 May 1996 22:24:57 -0600 Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 22:24:55 -0600 (MDT) From: Stephen Fisher To: linuxisp@lightning.com cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Satellite news feed? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi. I know these aren't the best of places to ask about this but both of these lists are very helpful with ISP stuff. I was wondering if anyone has experience with PageSat and/or Planet Connect for satellite delivered news groups. What are the pros/cons of using each? What are the pros/cons for using a satellite news feed (besides the obvious)? Thanx.. - Steve - Systems Manager From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 9 21:44:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA27451 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 9 May 1996 21:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from okjunc.junction.net (root@okjunc.junction.net [199.166.227.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA27289 Thu, 9 May 1996 21:43:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sidhe.memra.com (sidhe.memra.com [199.166.227.105]) by okjunc.junction.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id UAA07147; Thu, 9 May 1996 20:56:55 -0700 Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 21:40:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Dillon To: Brian Litzinger cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, randy@zyzzyva.com, et-users@netrail.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Continued MBUF problem with ET V.35 card In-Reply-To: <199605092349.QAA08967@MediaCity.com> Message-ID: Organization: Memra Software Inc. - Internet consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 9 May 1996, Brian Litzinger wrote: > brian wrote: > At the time, it seemed that the code was headed > in the right direction on its own. There's one for posterity! :-) :-) Michael Dillon Voice: +1-604-546-8022 Memra Software Inc. Fax: +1-604-546-3049 http://www.memra.com E-mail: michael@memra.com From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 10 06:39:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA16217 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 10 May 1996 06:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA16202 Fri, 10 May 1996 06:39:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id IAA02239; Fri, 10 May 1996 08:37:31 -0500 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199605101337.IAA02239@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: How to add a delay before getty displays login prompt ? To: jc@irbs.com (John Capo) Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 08:37:31 -0500 (CDT) Cc: ATuretta@stylo.it, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199605100415.AAA19162@irbs.irbs.com> from "John Capo" at May 10, 96 00:15:32 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Angelo Turetta writes: > > > [...] > > I suspect that getty is displaying the prompt string a little too early for > > the Sportster, and often the modem is still in the phase where any character > > from the host aborts the connection. > > Reading 'man gettytab' I've not found any parameter to instert a delay > > between the DCD and the first write. > > > > I haven't tried this but > > :im=\0:pf#5: > > omits the initial banner and delays 5 seconds before issuing the > login: prompt. > > Or add sleep(5); above this piece of code in getty/main.c, around > line 226. > > if (IM && *IM) > putf(IM); I got a little exasperated at this; I did a much more general hack and put in a "bx=" capability that kicks off an arbitrary binary after setting modes but before printing the banner. (bx = banner executable). I've used this with beta versions of Motorola ISDN firmware which exhibit a similar (and reportedly intentional, for debugging purposes) behaviour. Works like a charm. ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/546-7968 From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 10 07:27:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA21625 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 10 May 1996 07:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA21533 Fri, 10 May 1996 07:27:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix.stylo.it (unix.stylo.it [194.21.207.2]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id GAA27828 ; Fri, 10 May 1996 06:57:54 -0700 Received: from servernt.stylo.it (mail.stylo.it [194.21.207.13]) by unix.stylo.it (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA00312; Fri, 10 May 1996 16:00:58 +0200 Received: by servernt.stylo.it with Microsoft Exchange (IMC 4.12.736) id <01BB3E89.30CB92B0@servernt.stylo.it>; Fri, 10 May 1996 15:56:03 +0200 Message-ID: From: Angelo Turetta To: "'Nick Pearson'" , "'Greg Ungerer'" Cc: "'freebsd-questions'" , "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: How to add a delay before getty displays login prompt ? SOLVED THANKS Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 15:57:21 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.12.736 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BB3E89.30CD1950" Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. Contact your mail administrator for information about upgrading your reader to a version that supports MIME. ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB3E89.30CD1950 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nick gave me the right tip. Using ttydx (and ttyEx for the Stallion) in ttys(5) fixed the problem. BTW, what is the difference between /dev/ttydx and /dev/cuaax. Angelo. PS: for 'Jeff Hupp': the machine is not on-line yet, I'll remove the 'secure' as soon as I add some dial-in user :-) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Angelo Turetta mailto:aturetta@stylo.it Stylo Multimedia - Bologna - Italy http://www.stylo.it/ >---------- >From: Nick Pearson[SMTP:nick@ruly46.medfac.leidenuniv.nl] >Sent: Friday, 10 May 1996 11:33 >To: Angelo Turetta >Subject: Re: How to add a delay before getty displays login prompt ? > > >Hi Angelo. > >> I'm setting up a few dial-in ports equipped with US-Robotics Sportster >28.8 >> V34 modems. The PC is a 386-40/8MB, dedicated to this task, running >FreeBSD >> 2.1.0R. >> >> This are the ttys lines I'm using >> cuaa2 "/usr/libexec/getty std.38400" dialup on secure >> >> # Stallion EasyIO/8 >> cue0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.38400" dialup on secure > >How about using the ttyd2 and , errrmmm whatever the equivalent is for >your cue0 device. > >cua* devices are usually for dialout. > >> >> Just after the carrier goes up, about at the same time the client reports >> 'CONNECT 28800', the server hangs up the call. >> This happens about 33% times when using a normal 16550 port (cuaa2), and >> about 75% times when the modem is connected to a Stallion EasyIO/8. >> >> I suspect that getty is displaying the prompt string a little too early >for >> the Sportster, and often the modem is still in the phase where any >character >> from the host aborts the connection. >> Reading 'man gettytab' I've not found any parameter to instert a delay >> between the DCD and the first write. >> >> Any experience with that ? Am I wrong with some configuration item ? >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Angelo. >> > > ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB3E89.30CD1950-- From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 10 07:33:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA22244 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 10 May 1996 07:33:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA22233 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 07:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by agora.rdrop.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #17) id m0uHtFh-0008v8C; Fri, 10 May 96 07:33 PDT Message-Id: From: batie@agora.rdrop.com (Alan Batie) Subject: Re: Satellite news feed? To: lithium@cia-g.com (Stephen Fisher) Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 07:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Cc: linuxisp@lightning.com, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Stephen Fisher" at May 9, 96 10:24:55 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I was wondering if anyone has experience with PageSat I had pagesat for a while a year or two ago (until a little tree grew into a bigger tree and blocked the only good spot for the dish; as I got a T1 about then, I just switched to my ISP's news server). The software was marginal, but came in source and was relatively easy to hack. Do *not* get email by PageSat however, as *everyone* gets it. At the time at least, the software did not distinguish email, and it all ended up in "junk", until I hacked it to ignore the mail. I seem to recall that there were complaints about it being a day or two behind other news sites, but I also saw something recently that said they'd improved their connectivity. Otherwise, I think it's a great way to get news; if it weren't for the tree, I'd leave it turned on as a backup feed to the ISP feed. -- Alan Batie ______ We're Starfleet officers: batie@agora.rdrop.com \ / Weird is part of the job. +1 503 452-0960 \ / --Captain Janeway DE 3C 29 17 C0 49 7A 27 \/ 40 A5 3C 37 4A DA 52 B9 It is my policy to avoid purchase of any products from companies which use unrequested email advertisements or telephone solicitation. From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 10 08:06:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA24746 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 10 May 1996 08:06:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.calweb.com (mail.calweb.com [165.90.138.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA24741 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 08:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from devnull.calweb.com (devnull.calweb.com [165.90.138.92]) by mail.calweb.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA05508; Fri, 10 May 1996 08:01:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960510150634.006f8844@jpop.calweb.com> X-Sender: jfesler@jpop.calweb.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 08:06:34 -0700 To: Stephen Fisher , Patrick Ferguson From: Jason Fesler Subject: Re: POP timeout Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, Bruce Bauman Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 07:38 PM 5/9/96 -0600, Stephen Fisher wrote: > >Well, that's good to know, now how do we fix it? Switch to another >popd? Change something in qpopper? Changing the Eudora timeout settings to be more lenient *can* help, but it's still one of those no-win situations. I'm presently developing a non-Berkeley mail system compatibile popmail box. It would require popclient as a frontend for the unix folks to use, as the storage system would be similiar to a news system (index file, plus one file per message.. *fast* response, but just as ugly as a news system would be). May not be the brightest way to do it, but I can open a 20 meg mailbox in just a second or so :-) Note that I am not ready to release it. It's still a rough project, and I'm not ready in the least bit to support it in it's current state. It's presently going through alpha testing with a few of the staff here. I also have not yet addressed things like mail forwarding and remote administration by the user [the goal is to have the mail machine not to use NFS at all, but to be an autonomous system - it won't have access to ~user/.forward files ..] -- Jason Fesler jfesler@calweb.com Admin, CalWeb Internet Services jfroot@calweb.com I like my Usenet over ice, please. http://www.gigo.com Disclaimer: My /dev/null can beat your /dev/null any day. From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 10 13:27:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA20953 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 10 May 1996 13:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from digital.netvoyage.net (root@digital.netvoyage.net [205.162.154.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA20946 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 13:27:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bogawa@localhost) by digital.netvoyage.net (8.6.13/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA13346; Fri, 10 May 1996 13:22:24 -0700 Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 13:22:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Bryan Ogawa at Work To: Patrick Ferguson cc: Jason Fesler , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, Bruce Bauman Subject: Re: POP timeout In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 9 May 1996, Patrick Ferguson wrote: > > On Tue Apr 30 20:01:34 1996 Jason Fesler wrote: > >>At 08:59 AM 4/30/96 -0400, you wrote: > >>We are running FreeBSD 2.1 at our small ISP. Customers have occasionally > >>been complaining about being unable to communicate with our mail server > >>via POP. If I check our log files, I see messages like the following: > > > >One thing to check is the *size* of the mailbox being checked. > >qpopper's major weak point is with large mailboxes, as every time > >someone checks their mail, qpopper has to scan the entire mailbox > >file. > > > >Leave it to the local wArEz kiddies to try and trade via email to > >prove this particularly weak point in qpopper, by sending each other > >10-20 megabyte email messages.. What's even worse, though, are little old ladies who have 10 megabytes of SMALL mail, who set their Eudora to: (1) check mail every five minutes, and (2) LEAVE MAIL ON SERVER!!!! Recently, our machine has been dog slow, and I've been trying to figure out why. I thought it was a not enough RAM problem, but it turns out that one of our customers is doing the above. Our pop server (popper?) reads AND WRITES the mail for people who ask to leave mail on server. The above situation leads to disk thrashing as a simple (and reasonably fast, on their end, as the pop client only sends new mail) check new mail every 4 minutes generates huge disk bandwidth. Other than telling customers DON'T DO THAT, do you guys have any other suggestions? > > > >-- > > Jason Fesler jfesler@calweb.com > > Admin, CalWeb Internet Services jfroot@calweb.com > > I like my Usenet over ice, please. http://www.gigo.com > > Disclaimer: My /dev/null can beat your /dev/null any day. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Patrick Ferguson - Systems Administrator patrick@dmv.com > DelMarVa OnLine! - Salisbury, MD > > > -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- > Version: 2.6.2 > > mQBNAzGBrOQAAAECALpR8GMUAXnKbr9LeXVv18Q8y/n1NM1+YS8ffP/5HvM0gyso > F1T9+gcGvb3L2nFwj+wnig0UQY93vXqhXPoFN4UABRG0IlBhdHJpY2sgRmVyZ3Vz > b24gPHBhdHJpY2tAZG12LmNvbT4= > =AgnQ > -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- > > Bryan K. Ogawa Questions or Problems with NetVoyage? help@netvoyage.net Check out the NetVoyage HelpWeb at.. From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 10 13:31:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA21319 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 10 May 1996 13:31:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zot.io.org (root@zot.io.org [198.133.36.82]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA21296 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 13:31:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from taob@localhost) by zot.io.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA08694; Fri, 10 May 1996 16:29:34 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 16:29:34 -0400 From: Brian Tao Message-Id: <199605102029.QAA08694@zot.io.org> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp Subject: rmail not delivering to MX hosts? Organization: Internex Online Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a server running FreeBSD 2.1 and Taylor UUCP 1.06 (as supplied with the OS). Mail and news packets are queued up and transferred between the server and the various clients. However, clients cannot seem to send mail to a site that only has MX records, but no A records. When a UUCP site connects to us and uploads a mail message to, say, maloca.com (no A record, but mail handled by gate.maloca.com), I can see uuqxt handling the request, but the sendmail log doesn't show a corresponding delivery to gate.maloca.com (the MX host for maloca.com). This would suggest that rmail doesn't even get around to handing the message over to sendmail for delivery. I played with the nodns and nocanonify features of sendmail 8.6.12 anyway, to no effect. uuxqt murphy PAUL (1996-05-10 11:51:30.88 7908) Executing X.murp62756fdc (rmail bernie@maloca.com) Then something else strange happens. A bounce message appears to be generated as a result of the non-delivery: May 10 11:51:31 egate sendmail[7916]: LAA07916: from=<>, size=1036, class=0, pri=31036, nrcpts=1, msgid=, proto=SMTP, relay=ether.egate.net [207.34.206.3] May 10 11:51:31 egate sendmail[7918]: LAA07916: to=, delay=00:00:00, mailer=uucp-dom, relay=murphy, stat=Sent Sendmail correctly sends it through the uucp-dom mailer and uux is run, but no batch ID is assigned: uux egate daemon (1996-05-10 11:51:31.30 7919) Queuing (PAUL@murphy.egate.net) No file is created in /var/spool/uucp/murphy/D./ and I don't see any errors logged. The only anomaly I can see is the null sender field ("from=<>"). So I really have two questions. :) How do you get rmail to deliver messages to hosts without an A record, and why does uux say it is queueing a delivery for a UUCP site when it really isn't? Thanks in advance for any advice given. -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@io.org, taob@ican.net) Systems and Network Administrator, Internet Canada Corp. "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 10 14:32:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA26097 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 10 May 1996 14:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA25889 Fri, 10 May 1996 14:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA12115; Fri, 10 May 96 21:25:33 GMT Message-Id: <9605102125.AA12115@fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.3/16.2) id AA063243529; Fri, 10 May 1996 15:25:29 -0600 Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 15:25:29 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: ATuretta@stylo.it Cc: nick@ruly46.medfac.leidenuniv.nl, gerg@stallion.oz.au, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: (message from Angelo Turetta on Fri, 10 May 1996 15:57:21 +0200) Subject: Re: How to add a delay before getty displays login prompt ? SOLVED THANKS Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Angelo" == Angelo Turetta writes: Angelo> Using ttydx (and ttyEx for the Stallion) in ttys(5) fixed Angelo> the problem. BTW, what is the difference between Angelo> /dev/ttydx and /dev/cuaax. ttydX is a general serial device, cuaaX is a call-out device. Opening ttydX's will block until it detects the carrier. Opening cuaaX doesn't block---but will also steal the port from another process waiting for a carrier on the ttydX device. Type ``man 4 sio'' for more info. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 10 22:37:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA18016 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 10 May 1996 22:37:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lynx.its.unimelb.edu.au (lynx.its.unimelb.EDU.AU [128.250.20.151]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA17957 Fri, 10 May 1996 22:37:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from danny@localhost) by lynx.its.unimelb.edu.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA27190; Sat, 11 May 1996 15:36:03 +1000 Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 15:36:02 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Angelo Turetta cc: "'Nick Pearson'" , "'Greg Ungerer'" , "'freebsd-questions'" , "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: How to add a delay before getty displays login prompt ? SOLVED THANKS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 10 May 1996, Angelo Turetta wrote: > Nick gave me the right tip. > > Using ttydx (and ttyEx for the Stallion) in ttys(5) fixed the problem. > BTW, what is the difference between /dev/ttydx and /dev/cuaax. > > ttyd* is a dial in device, while cuaa* is a dialout deveice. this means that you can have getty running on ttyd0, and start kermit on cuaa0 to dialout, without having to turn getty off. Also, ttyd* watches carrier differently from the cua devices. If you read /etc/rc.serial you might get some mre understanding. You might also find my mods to rc.serial in 2.2 and -current handy for initializing and locking ports using 16550s and Stallion (and cyclades and Digiboard). My mods allow you to select the call-in/call-out device rather than being locked into cuaa* and ttyd*. Danny From owner-freebsd-isp Sat May 11 10:12:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA23326 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 11 May 1996 10:12:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from okjunc.junction.net (root@okjunc.junction.net [199.166.227.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA23319 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 10:12:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sidhe.memra.com (sidhe.memra.com [199.166.227.105]) by okjunc.junction.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id JAA09796; Sat, 11 May 1996 09:27:06 -0700 Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 10:10:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Dillon To: linuxisp@lightning.com cc: server-linux@netspace.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Linux-ISP] Re: MS Front Page In-Reply-To: <199605111448.KAA12757@linux1.MageNet.com> Message-ID: Organization: Memra Software Inc. - Internet consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 11 May 1996, Julia Anne Case wrote: > > I'm in the process of developing a new web-site and I'm looking for > > the best tools. I've downloaded MS Front Page. Anyone have any I looked at their website and they don't say anything about supported OS's. Somehow I doubt this works with Linux. > > experience with this and RedHat/Apache? Any advice on setup, etc, > > would be appreciated. TIA > > > We have used it here, it seems to be a nice package. The editor > you use (I tend to use pico) doesn't matter with the server. Though I > just found a really nice module to add to Apache (PHP/FI). Which is at http://www.vex.net/php/ Also check out http://www.fastcgi.com for another enhancement to Apache. And make sure to read Apache Week at http://www.ukweb.com/support/apacheweek/ What I find most interesting is that Apache, PHP/FI and FastCGI are all free pieces of software but all have slick looking websites. In other words some people who support and promote free software have some marketing skills that they are putting to use. BTW, Apache now has the largest share of the webserver market with 30%. Second place is held by NCSA with 25%. But MS IIS is coming on fast. It has *DOUBLED* its market share in only one month. Of course it's not hard to double a trickle to become a bigger trickle. They have 2.55% compared to other NT webservers like Website 4.44% and Purveyor 1.36%. Read all about it at http://www.netcraft.co.uk/Survey/ Michael Dillon Voice: +1-604-546-8022 Memra Software Inc. Fax: +1-604-546-3049 http://www.memra.com E-mail: michael@memra.com