From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jul 14 10:00:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA00546 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 10:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com ([206.245.251.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA00526 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 10:00:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from burka.carrier.kiev.ua (root@burka.carrier.kiev.ua [193.125.68.131]) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA16792 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 09:59:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (snar@localhost) by burka.carrier.kiev.ua (Sendmail 8.who.cares/5) id TAA04621 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 19:54:21 +0300 From: Alexander Snarskii Message-Id: <199607141654.TAA04621@burka.carrier.kiev.ua> Subject: "Dynamic" sliplogin ? To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 19:54:20 +0300 (UKR) Content-type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! Did anybody know about the tool, which works like 'sliplogin', but allows to dynamic ( and more than, dynamic and cached ) assigning of remote slip addresses ? PS: Source code are needed, just because i need to take this ability not only on FreeBSD but at BSDi 1.1 also :( PPS: SLiRP is a good thing, but.... -- Alexander Snarskii the source code is included. From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jul 14 10:49:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA14912 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 10:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from okjunc.junction.net (root@okjunc.junction.net [199.166.227.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA14897 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 10:49:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sidhe.memra.com (sidhe.memra.com [199.166.227.105]) by okjunc.junction.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id KAA26737; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 10:52:20 -0700 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 10:45:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Dillon To: iap@vma.cc.nd.edu cc: linuxisp@lightning.com, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, os2-isp@dental.stat.com Subject: Our NSF Project Formal FCC Comments (fwd) Message-ID: Organization: Memra Software Inc. - Internet consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 09:38:52 -0600 (MDT) From: Dave Hughes Reply-To: inet-access@earth.com To: inet-access@earth.com Subject: Our NSF Project Formal FCC Comments Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 09:48:19 -0600 (MDT) Resent-From: inet-access@earth.com The NSF Wireless Field Test Project has formally commented on the FCC's Notice of Proposed Rule Making on the Apple (community networking) and WINForum (low power, no licence, wide band) Petitions for new allocation of spectrum. You can read them under the 'Regulatory' sub web page off the http://wireless.oldcolo.com web site. The top two items. It will suprise some that we oppose the Apple proposal - for technical inadequacy and probable interference with existing abilities, but still hold that there should be effective rules for long range, no licence radios. And in commenting (maybe the only ones in the US to do so) on the obligatory requirement for the FCC to analyze the impact of its proposed actions on 'Small Entities' we find the FCC analyses to be superficial and wholly inadequate. They utterly fail to acknowledge that millions of very small entitites (1 person businesses, operations, professionals, small home, home office, educators) using web site and other Internet capabiliites need the lowest cost, high bandwidth, access to the closest ISP - which long range spread spectrum no-licence radios can, and should, offer if the mandate of the 1996 Telecom Act to insure that 'advanced telecommunications services' be made available to all citizens at affordable costs. The deadline for either written formal comments, or email comments 96-102@fcc.gov on this watershed item is Monday, 15 July. After which all submissions will be available for reading, and for 30 days 'Reply' comments will be accepted. This item is watershed, not because of the immediate actions - which will be of marginal impact - but because how the FCC handles the issue of 'long range, high bandwidth, no-licence, shared-spectrum' radios may set the future course. Either everything is going to be privatized with companies bidding for exclusive spectrum use, or we are going to be able to use powerful radios which do not interfere with anything, and require no-licence, no comm-cost. And if anyone thinks that 'non-interfering' radios are a pipe dream I refer you to the latest MIT Doctorate by Timothy Shepard who demonstrates that 'billions' of radios can now operate in the same electromagnetic space. There IS no 'spectrum scarcity' with the right FCC rules and radios made to high standards of process gain. Dave Hughes P.S. I am not longer on the inet-list, so if you want to reply to me, go dave@oldcolo.com ============================== ISP Mailing List ============================== Email ``unsubscribe'' to inet-access-request@earth.com to be removed. Because this is a restricted list -- DO NOT CROSS POST TO OTHER LISTS. From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jul 14 15:30:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA05483 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 15:30:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from katy.apana.org.au (katy.apana.org.au [202.12.89.57]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA05445 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 15:30:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from davo@localhost) by katy.apana.org.au (8.7.5/8.6.12) id HAA10079; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 07:57:52 +0930 (CST) From: Dave Edwards Message-Id: <199607142227.HAA10079@katy.apana.org.au> Subject: Re: "Dynamic" sliplogin ? To: snar@lucky.net (Alexander Snarskii) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 07:57:51 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607141654.TAA04621@burka.carrier.kiev.ua> from Alexander Snarskii at "Jul 14, 96 07:54:20 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL19 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk 'Alexander Snarskii scribbled..' > From owner-freebsd-isp@freefall.freebsd.org Mon Jul 15 03:48:44 1996 > From: Alexander Snarskii > Message-Id: <199607141654.TAA04621@burka.carrier.kiev.ua> > Subject: "Dynamic" sliplogin ? > To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 19:54:20 +0300 (UKR) > Content-type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] > Content-Type: text > Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org > X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Precedence: bulk > > Hi! > > Did anybody know about the tool, which works like 'sliplogin', > but allows to dynamic ( and more than, dynamic and cached ) > assigning of remote slip addresses ? We use sliplogin here with dynamic addressing with no problems. Modify your /etc/sliphome/slip.login file to read.. -------- #/bin/sh - Port=`tty` TTY=`basename $Port` SRC_IP=203.14.158.4 echo "Running slip.login" > $Port sleep 5 echo "Checking for tty" > $Port case "$TTY" in cuaa0) DEST_IP=203.14.158.20;; cuaa1) DEST_IP=203.14.158.21;; cuaa2) DEST_IP=203.14.158.22;; cuaa3) DEST_IP=203.14.158.23;; cuaa4) DEST_IP=203.14.158.24;; cuaa5) DEST_IP=203.14.158.25;; *) esac if [ x$IP = xNone ]; then echo No IP for this port exit 1 fi echo >&- /sbin/ifconfig sl$1 inet $SRC_IP $DEST_IP mtu 1006 netmask 255.255.255.255 /usr/sbin/arp -s $DEST_IP 0:40:33:33:c9:37 temp publish echo "Your address is DEST_IP" > $Port echo "You can start slip now.." > $Port stty crtscts exit 0 --------- The users will need to look for and use the IP assigned to them. ciao dave -- Dave Edwards davo@katy.apana.org.au || davo@sa.apana.org.au Adelaide, South Australia ---- From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 15 09:59:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA23167 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:59:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inquo.net (val@inquo.net [206.43.0.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA23158 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:59:51 -0700 (PDT) From: val@inquo.net Received: (from val@localhost) by inquo.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA05110 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:59:50 -0600 Message-Id: <199607151659.KAA05110@inquo.net> Subject: embarassing cyclades question To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 10:59:50 -0600 (MDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk i bought a cyclades 16Ye board for my ISP, and i recompiled the kernel and rebooted. got the message: cy0 irq 11 maddr 0xd4000 msize 8192 on isa so i assume it's working fine. Next thing i did was look in MAKEDEV for cyclades device entries. i also looked in the man page. I must have missed something becasue i have no idea what major numbers to use or what naming conventions to call the devices :( Btw, i'm running the 2.2-SNAP from May (soon to be upgraded ot the june version) Can someone help me even thought i seem to be blind? - Joel From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 15 12:29:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA03659 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:29:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.238.120.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA03642 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from luiz@localhost) by mirage.nlink.com.br (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA08242; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 16:31:45 -0300 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 16:31:44 -0300 (EST) From: Luiz de Barros To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org cc: mmead@goof.com Subject: Alphanumeric paging with IXO protocol. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear FreeBSD Experts, I am looking for a Free/Shareware AlphaNumeric Paging software. My provider is Running IXO protocol. Is there anything for FreeBSD? We are trying to make a system monitor with automatic paging in case of any problem in our system. Thanks in Advance, Luiz From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 15 13:13:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA07181 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:13:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA07173; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:13:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199607152013.NAA07173@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Alphanumeric paging with IXO protocol. To: luiz@mirage.nlink.com.br (Luiz de Barros) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:13:45 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, mmead@goof.com In-Reply-To: from "Luiz de Barros" at Jul 15, 96 04:31:44 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Luiz de Barros wrote: > > Dear FreeBSD Experts, > > I am looking for a Free/Shareware AlphaNumeric Paging software. > My provider is Running IXO protocol. > Is there anything for FreeBSD? > We are trying to make a system monitor with automatic paging in case of > any problem in our system. you may want to take a look at 'tpage' ftp://gumby.dsd.trw.com/pub/tpage.tar.Z jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--4.4BSD Unix for PC clones, source included. http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 15 13:35:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA08740 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:35:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hopf.dnai.com (hopf.dnai.com [140.174.162.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA08732 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mars.dnai.com (mars.dnai.com [140.174.162.14]) by hopf.dnai.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id NAA16284; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:33:24 -0700 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:29:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Dror Matalon To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alphanumeric paging with IXO protocol. In-Reply-To: <199607152013.NAA07173@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Once you figure out how the protocol work is it's quite easy to do this with "expect", you dial in the phone number, enter a string, enter the mailbox number, the message and that's it. On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > Luiz de Barros wrote: > > > > Dear FreeBSD Experts, > > > > I am looking for a Free/Shareware AlphaNumeric Paging software. > > My provider is Running IXO protocol. > > Is there anything for FreeBSD? > > We are trying to make a system monitor with automatic paging in case of > > any problem in our system. > > you may want to take a look at 'tpage' > > ftp://gumby.dsd.trw.com/pub/tpage.tar.Z > > jmb > -- > Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG > FreeBSD--4.4BSD Unix for PC clones, source included. http://www.freebsd.org/ > PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB > Dror Matalon Voice: 510 649-6110 Direct Network Access Fax: 510 649-7130 2039 Shattuck Avenue Modem: 510 649-6116 Berkeley, CA 94704 Email: dror@dnai.com From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 15 13:36:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA08857 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:36:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from noah.xicom.com (ssnet-link.xicom.com [205.216.96.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA08606 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:33:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mjames@localhost) by noah.xicom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA09029; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 16:33:57 -0400 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 16:33:57 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael S. James" To: freebsd-isp Subject: freebsd-isp FAQ or list archive? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm new to the list (and relativley new to freebsd for that matter) and wonder if there is a FAQ for this mail list and archive so I don't have to ask the same old questions over again? Thanks, ============================================================================== Mike James XICOM NetWorks, Inc. mjames@xicom.com Newark DE's Premier Christian Internet Gateway http://www.xicom.com/ 302-369-8842 (voice) 302-369-8846 (fax) ============================================================================== From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 15 13:54:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA12501 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shogun.tdktca.com ([206.26.1.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA12351 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 13:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shogun.tdktca.com (daemon@localhost) by shogun.tdktca.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with ESMTP id PAA18477 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:53:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from fa.tdktca.com (bsd.fa.tdktca.com [163.49.131.129]) by shogun.tdktca.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with ESMTP id PAA18471 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:53:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from alex@localhost) by fa.tdktca.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id PAA03286; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:57:23 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:57:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Alex Nash To: val@inquo.net cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: embarassing cyclades question In-Reply-To: <199607151659.KAA05110@inquo.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 15 Jul 1996 val@inquo.net wrote: > i bought a cyclades 16Ye board for my ISP, and i recompiled the kernel > and rebooted. got the message: > > cy0 irq 11 maddr 0xd4000 msize 8192 on isa > > so i assume it's working fine. Next thing i did was look in MAKEDEV for > cyclades device entries. i also looked in the man page. I must have missed > something becasue i have no idea what major numbers to use or what naming > conventions to call the devices :( > > Btw, i'm running the 2.2-SNAP from May (soon to be upgraded ot the june > version) > > Can someone help me even thought i seem to be blind? The major device number is 48, but really you should just stick with using the MAKEDEV script. The devices you want to make are cuac* and ttyc*. You can do this with: #!/bin/sh cd /dev for i in 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15;do ./MAKEDEV cuac$i ttyc$i done cuac devices are for callout, ttyc for dialup. Alex From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 15 14:05:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA14827 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:05:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (root@orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA14795 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:05:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA03213; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 17:04:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.webspan.net: Host gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Luiz de Barros cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, mmead@goof.com From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Alphanumeric paging with IXO protocol. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 15 Jul 1996 16:31:44 -0300." Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 17:04:33 -0400 Message-ID: <3209.837464673@orion.webspan.net> Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Luiz de Barros wrote in message ID : > Dear FreeBSD Experts, > > I am looking for a Free/Shareware AlphaNumeric Paging software. The only program I am aware of is hylafax, available in ports. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 15 14:31:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA18061 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:31:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bitbucket.edmweb.com (bitbucket.edmweb.com [204.244.190.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA18050 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by bitbucket.edmweb.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA00285; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:31:13 -0700 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 14:31:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Reid To: val@inquo.net cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: embarassing cyclades question In-Reply-To: <199607151659.KAA05110@inquo.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > i bought a cyclades 16Ye board for my ISP, and i recompiled the kernel > and rebooted. got the message: > > cy0 irq 11 maddr 0xd4000 msize 8192 on isa Yep, Looks good. > so i assume it's working fine. Next thing i did was look in MAKEDEV for > cyclades device entries. i also looked in the man page. I must have missed > something becasue i have no idea what major numbers to use or what naming > conventions to call the devices :( Try "MAKEDEV ttycX" and "MAKEDEV cuacX" where X is the minor device number. > Btw, i'm running the 2.2-SNAP from May (soon to be upgraded ot the june > version) The above worked for me using 2.1.0-RELEASE. > Can someone help me even thought i seem to be blind? I also had to ask the list to find this information. Maybe there should be a FAQ entry, or even just a comment in the MAKEDEV script. ===================================================================== | Steve Reid - SysAdmin & Pres, EDM Web (http://www.edmweb.com/) | | Email: steve@edmweb.com Home Page: http://www.edmweb.com/steve/ | | PGP (2048/9F317269) Fingerprint: 11C89D1CD67287E68C09EC52443F8830 | | -- Disclaimer: JMHO, YMMV, TANSTAAFL, IANAL. -- | ===================================================================:) From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 15 17:12:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA02340 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 17:12:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA02334 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 17:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from venus.mcs.com (root@Venus.mcs.com [192.160.127.92]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id TAA26286; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 19:12:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: by venus.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Mon, 15 Jul 96 19:12 CDT Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 19:12:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Alex Nash X-Sender: nash@Venus.mcs.com To: Steve Reid cc: val@inquo.net, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: embarassing cyclades question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Steve Reid wrote: > > Can someone help me even thought i seem to be blind? > > I also had to ask the list to find this information. Maybe there should > be a FAQ entry, or even just a comment in the MAKEDEV script. There's a Cyclades entry in the handbook -- unfortunately the reference to cyclades.sgml recently got taken out by a botched merge. I'm fixing this as we speak. Alex From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 15 17:18:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA02951 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 17:18:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.238.120.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA02936 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 17:17:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from luiz@localhost) by mirage.nlink.com.br (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA11565; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:20:12 -0300 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 21:20:12 -0300 (EST) From: Luiz de Barros To: Dror Matalon cc: "Jonathan M. Bresler" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Alphanumeric paging with IXO protocol. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, The system we Now. Standard IXO protocol with manual message send. The problem we are having is using chat scripts without error, busy, etc checking. I think it would be easier if we could find a program that could handle all this... Regards, Luiz On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Dror Matalon wrote: > > Hi, > > Once you figure out how the protocol work is it's quite easy to do this > with "expect", you dial in the phone number, enter a string, enter > the mailbox number, the message and that's it. > > > On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > > > Luiz de Barros wrote: > > > > > > Dear FreeBSD Experts, > > > > > > I am looking for a Free/Shareware AlphaNumeric Paging software. > > > My provider is Running IXO protocol. > > > Is there anything for FreeBSD? > > > We are trying to make a system monitor with automatic paging in case of > > > any problem in our system. > > > > you may want to take a look at 'tpage' > > > > ftp://gumby.dsd.trw.com/pub/tpage.tar.Z > > > > jmb > > -- > > Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG > > FreeBSD--4.4BSD Unix for PC clones, source included. http://www.freebsd.org/ > > PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB > > > > Dror Matalon Voice: 510 649-6110 > Direct Network Access Fax: 510 649-7130 > 2039 Shattuck Avenue Modem: 510 649-6116 > Berkeley, CA 94704 Email: dror@dnai.com > > From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 16 06:22:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA22843 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 06:22:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.maxweb.com (ns.maxweb.com [206.31.2.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA22832 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 06:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kyle@localhost) by ns.maxweb.com (8.6.12/8.6.13) id JAA03405; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 09:20:43 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 09:20:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Kyle McPeek To: Luiz de Barros cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, mmead@goof.com Subject: Re: Alphanumeric paging with IXO protocol. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You might try sendpage, ftp.net.ohio-state.edu/pub/pagers/sendpage7a.tar.gz sendpage is a front end to the PET protocol used by many paging systems. PET is also knows as IXO or TAP. kyle. Incrediably HUGE Signature follows... ************************************************************ Kyle McPeek, Senior Programmer, Intermedia Solutions, Inc 170 Prosperous PL. Lexington, KY 40509 606-263-7950 FAX: 606.263-1711 kyle@maxweb.com ------------------------------------------------------------ ...my secret weapon is PMS? - Buffy, "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" Pert. Wholesome. Way Lethal. ************************************************************ On Mon, 15 Jul 1996, Luiz de Barros wrote: > Dear FreeBSD Experts, > > I am looking for a Free/Shareware AlphaNumeric Paging software. > My provider is Running IXO protocol. > Is there anything for FreeBSD? > We are trying to make a system monitor with automatic paging in case of > any problem in our system. > > Thanks in Advance, > > Luiz > > From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 17 10:43:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA06099 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 10:43:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isot.isot.com (root@internet-of-texas.Houston.mci.net [204.70.37.26]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA06094 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 10:43:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bench1.Workgroup ([206.24.68.33]) by isot.isot.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA27534 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 08:15:49 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 08:15:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199607171315.IAA27534@isot.isot.com> X-Sender: gism@ns.isot.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Global Internet Shopping Mall Subject: Installation CD v2.1 Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Finally got it installed, but its missing lots of utilities, such as "pico", "rmuser", etc. I reinstalled it couple of times and I've installed "pico", but can't seem to find it. I also can't seem to "mount -t iso9660 /dev/wcd0 /cdrom", keeps on telling me can't find /cdrom file or directory. Please help. From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 17 12:00:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA10221 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crooow.wcupa.edu (crooow.wcupa.edu [144.26.36.139]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA10215 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:00:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pschwenk@localhost) by crooow.wcupa.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) id OAA11444; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 14:59:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 14:59:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Schwenk To: Global Internet Shopping Mall cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installation CD v2.1 In-Reply-To: <199607171315.IAA27534@isot.isot.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Try "mount -t cd9660 /dev/wcd0c /cdrom". I think the actual device name has a 'c' on the end of it. I think pico, etc. get installed on /usr/local/bin. When I installed it, the permissions were such that the average user could not see them, so you may need to change the permissions. - Peter Schwenk, Academic Computing, West Chester University of PA - pschwenk@wcupa.edu or pschwenk@crooow.wcupa.edu On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Global Internet Shopping Mall wrote: > Finally got it installed, but its missing lots of utilities, such as "pico", > "rmuser", etc. I reinstalled it couple of times and I've installed "pico", > but can't seem to find it. > > I also can't seem to "mount -t iso9660 /dev/wcd0 /cdrom", keeps on telling > me can't find /cdrom file or directory. > > Please help. > > From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 17 14:32:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA22187 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 14:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com ([140.145.230.177]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA22177 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 14:32:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.tfs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA01297 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 23:32:29 +0200 (MET DST) To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: AS/BGP on FreeBSD ? Reply-to: phk@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 23:32:28 +0200 Message-ID: <1295.837639148@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have been asked by a Danish ISP who's about to go multihomed, if a FreeBSD box can run the BGP router when they get their own AS. I presume that would mean they will run gated. Anybody have any comments on this ? Any info on the subject welcome, in particular about what size of machine to use, and problems to look out for. Thanks in advance! Poul-Henning -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 17 15:13:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA25506 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 15:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (root@orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA25501 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 15:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bsdcon@localhost) by orion.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA16030 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 18:13:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 18:13:46 -0400 (EDT) From: BSD Conference Account To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: BSDCON Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk *** B S D - C O N *** Who/What: BSDNET is proud to announce the first annual BSDcon convention in Virginia. BSDcon is going to be a yearly convention to promote, discuss, and trade ideas and code about FREE *BSD unix. Everyone has there own conference, SA's, Geeks, even the L**** people have them. Now the founding OS of unix, needs to take advances in PR, and promoting *BSD unix. So we wind up with BSDcon. When: October 26th and 27th. The weekend before halloween. 1996. Where: Hotel soon to be announced. Why: To promote the use of FREE *BSD unix, and to actually start spreading FACTUAL information about *BSD unix, and about performance and architecture issues. Topics to be discussed are coming soon. This is just a pre-amble to the official release of BSDcon information. This is just to get people to clear their calandar for the above date :) Those of you wishing more information before I get around to releasing the OFFICIAL announcment later on, wanting to know about speakers, topics, etc.. can email me at bsdcon@webspan.net for further pre release information. I hope everyone plans on attending! It is going to be very informative, and everyone is going to have a blast! Official release is soon to come. ===================================| BSDCON! An annual FREE *BSD Unix Event! FreeBSD 2.1.5 is available now! | Sponsored by the BSDNET organization! -----------------------------------| NetBSD, FreeBSD, OpenBSD! Turning PCs into Workstations | Bringing Truth, and strength to the http://www.freebsd.org | *BSD Camps! http://www.bsdnet.org ===================================| E-mail bsdcon@webspan.net for more info! From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 17 15:47:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA28110 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 15:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from etinc.com ([204.141.95.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA28101; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 15:46:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-usr11.etinc.com (dialup-usr11.etinc.com [204.141.95.132]) by etinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA24574; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 18:53:03 -0400 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 18:53:03 -0400 Message-Id: <199607172253.SAA24574@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: phk@FreeBSD.ORG From: dennis@etinc.com (Dennis) Subject: Re: AS/BGP on FreeBSD ? Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >I have been asked by a Danish ISP who's about to go multihomed, if >a FreeBSD box can run the BGP router when they get their own AS. > >I presume that would mean they will run gated. > >Anybody have any comments on this ? > >Any info on the subject welcome, in particular about what size of >machine to use, and problems to look out for. > >Thanks in advance! I just got off the phone with someone using our dual T1 card with ~40,000 BGP4 routes loaded with a 63 day uptime on a 64MB machine. :-) Its nice to hear good news once in a while! Dennis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com Synchronous Communications Cards and Routers For Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame Relay, PPP, HDLC, and X.25 for BSD/OS, FreeBSD and LINUX From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 17 16:15:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA29789 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:15:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from etinc.com ([204.141.95.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA29778 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:14:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-usr11.etinc.com (dialup-usr11.etinc.com [204.141.95.132]) by etinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA24638; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 19:20:30 -0400 Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 19:20:30 -0400 Message-Id: <199607172320.TAA24638@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: BSD Conference Account From: dennis@etinc.com (Dennis) Subject: Re: BSDCON Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there a human being behind this message? Dennis > > *** B S D - C O N *** > >Who/What: BSDNET is proud to announce the first annual BSDcon convention >in Virginia. BSDcon is going to be a yearly convention to promote, >discuss, and trade ideas and code about FREE *BSD unix. Everyone has there >own conference, SA's, Geeks, even the L**** people have them. Now the >founding OS of unix, needs to take advances in PR, and promoting *BSD >unix. So we wind up with BSDcon. > >When: October 26th and 27th. The weekend before halloween. 1996. > >Where: Hotel soon to be announced. > >Why: To promote the use of FREE *BSD unix, and to actually start spreading >FACTUAL information about *BSD unix, and about performance and >architecture issues. > >Topics to be discussed are coming soon. This is just a pre-amble to the >official release of BSDcon information. This is just to get people to >clear their calandar for the above date :) > >Those of you wishing more information before I get around to releasing the >OFFICIAL announcment later on, wanting to know about speakers, topics, >etc.. can email me at bsdcon@webspan.net for further pre release >information. > >I hope everyone plans on attending! It is going to be very informative, >and everyone is going to have a blast! > >Official release is soon to come. > >===================================| BSDCON! An annual FREE *BSD Unix Event! > FreeBSD 2.1.5 is available now! | Sponsored by the BSDNET organization! >-----------------------------------| NetBSD, FreeBSD, OpenBSD! > Turning PCs into Workstations | Bringing Truth, and strength to the > http://www.freebsd.org | *BSD Camps! http://www.bsdnet.org >===================================| E-mail bsdcon@webspan.net for more info! > > > > From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 17 16:33:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA00769 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:33:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (root@orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA00764 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 16:33:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA19828; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 19:33:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.webspan.net: Host gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: dennis@etinc.com (Dennis) cc: BSD Conference Account , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: BSDCON In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 17 Jul 1996 19:20:30 EDT." <199607172320.TAA24638@etinc.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 19:33:05 -0400 Message-ID: <19823.837646385@orion.webspan.net> Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dennis wrote in message ID <199607172320.TAA24638@etinc.com>: > Is there a human being behind this message? I wouldn't know if I would go that far, but the originator of the message is in the same room as me, and will likely kill me for saying this :-) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 17 18:32:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA06902 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 18:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA06840; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 18:31:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA00152; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:31:53 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:31:52 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org cc: peter.hawkins@cc.monash.edu.au Subject: Cyclades cards PCI/ISA Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Could someone please clarify whether the cy driver in 2.1.5 (last updated 1996/01/29) handles the new PCI based cyclades boards. There is no mention of PCI anywhere in cy.c. Thanks, Danny From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 17 19:59:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA11900 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 19:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (root@sasami.jurai.net [206.151.208.162]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA11892 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 19:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA20839; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:59:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:59:07 -0500 (CDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" X-Sender: winter@sasami To: Dennis cc: BSD Conference Account , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: BSDCON In-Reply-To: <199607172320.TAA24638@etinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Dennis wrote: > Is there a human being behind this message? Calling him human would require a large stretch of the imagination. | Matthew N. Dodd | winter@jurai.net | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | | Technical Manager | mdodd@intersurf.net | http://www.intersurf.net | | InterSurf Online | "Welcome to the net Sir, would you like a handbasket?"| From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 18 05:10:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA14719 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 05:10:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from garion.hq.ferg.com (pm1-13.wmbg.widomaker.com [204.17.220.113]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA14714; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 05:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.hq.ferg.com (localhost.hq.ferg.com [127.0.0.1]) by garion.hq.ferg.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA02326; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 08:11:20 -0400 Message-Id: <199607181211.IAA02326@garion.hq.ferg.com> X-Authentication-Warning: garion.hq.ferg.com: Host localhost.hq.ferg.com didn't use HELO protocol From: Branson Matheson To: phk@FreeBSD.ORG cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AS/BGP on FreeBSD ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 17 Jul 1996 23:32:28 +0200." <1295.837639148@critter.tfs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 08:11:19 -0400 Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -------- Poul-Henning Kamp uttered with conviction: > > I have been asked by a Danish ISP who's about to go m ultihomed, if > a FreeBSD box can run the BGP router when they get th eir own AS. > > I presume that would mean they will run gated. > > Anybody have any comments on this ? > > Any info on the subject welcome, in particular about what size of > machine to use, and problems to look out for. > is it possible to run multihomed with ppp? - branson ============================================================================= Branson Matheson | Ferguson Enterprises | If Pete and Repeat were System Administrator | W: (804) 874-7795 | sittin on a fence and Pete Unix, Perl, WWW | branson@widomaker.com | fell off, who is left? From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 18 06:22:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA17372 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 06:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isot.isot.com (root@internet-of-texas.Houston.mci.net [204.70.37.26]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA17367 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 06:22:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bench1.Workgroup ([206.24.68.33]) by isot.isot.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id DAA09231 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 03:54:58 -0500 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 03:54:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199607180854.DAA09231@isot.isot.com> X-Sender: gism@ns.isot.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Global Internet Shopping Mall Subject: Cyclom-16Ye installation Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I made sure in /sys/i386/conf/LOCAL contained: device cy0 at isa? tty irq 5 iomem 0xd4000 iosiz 0x2000 vector cyintr The IRQ and address on the card is correct. But the kernel log file say, kernel: cy0 not found I called Cyclade, they said they don't have installation instruction for FreeBSD, have to look it man pages. The man page only contains the above line. So I searched find / -name "cy*" and found duplicates 1st two being same file: /usr/share/man/man4/i386/cy.4.gz /usr/share/man/man4/cy.4.gz /usr/share/man/cat4/cy.4.gz Why is there duplicates, and is it neccessary or just taking up space??? From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 18 07:21:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA19932 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 07:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adsight.com (adsight.com [207.86.2.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA19926 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 07:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mailman@localhost) by adsight.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA02748; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 10:17:08 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 10:17:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Sam Magee To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Frontpage Extensions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone tried the MS Frontpage server extensions for BSDI and Apache server on FreeBSD? And, is is generally successful or not to run BSDI binaries on FreeBSD? From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 18 07:46:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA22628 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 07:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isot.isot.com (root@internet-of-texas.Houston.mci.net [204.70.37.26]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA22611 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 07:46:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bench1.Workgroup ([206.24.68.33]) by isot.isot.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id FAA09662 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 05:19:20 -0500 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 05:19:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199607181019.FAA09662@isot.isot.com> X-Sender: gism@ns.isot.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Global Internet Shopping Mall Subject: Porting BSD -> FreeBSD??? Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How much of BSD 2.0.1 is portable to FreeBSD? Is the passwd file in same format? I noticed my BSD rmuser is a perl script file, and thought about trying it on FreeBSD 2.1. From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 18 08:04:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA25811 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 08:04:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from etinc.com ([204.141.95.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA25806; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 08:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-usr11.etinc.com (dialup-usr11.etinc.com [204.141.95.132]) by etinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA26054; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:10:21 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:10:21 -0400 Message-Id: <199607181510.LAA26054@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: jkh@time.cdrom.com From: dennis@etinc.com (Dennis) Subject: 2.1.5-RELEASE omission Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jordan, I noticed that our commercial submission to 2.1.5R (our Ethernet Bandwidth Limiter demo), isn't in the distribution. Was this a "selective oversight"? The submission was made on the day of the "last call" and It was right next to the netcon stuff which is on there........ Dennis From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 18 08:34:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA27251 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 08:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA27243; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 08:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id KAA07343; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 10:34:04 -0500 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199607181534.KAA07343@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: AS/BGP on FreeBSD ? To: branson@widomaker.com (Branson Matheson) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 10:34:03 -0500 (CDT) Cc: phk@FreeBSD.ORG, isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199607181211.IAA02326@garion.hq.ferg.com> from "Branson Matheson" at Jul 18, 96 08:11:19 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > is it possible to run multihomed with ppp? I'm not sure {if,why} you would want to, but yes, it is. Routing is something that happens above the actual connection layer. ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/546-7968 From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 18 09:20:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA29491 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA29484; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:20:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA09992; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:20:24 -0700 (PDT) To: dennis@etinc.com (Dennis) cc: hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.1.5-RELEASE omission In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:10:21 EDT." <199607181510.LAA26054@etinc.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:20:24 -0700 Message-ID: <9990.837706824@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Jordan, > > I noticed that our commercial submission to 2.1.5R (our Ethernet > Bandwidth Limiter demo), isn't in the distribution. Was this a "selective > oversight"? The submission was made on the day of the "last call" and > It was right next to the netcon stuff which is on there........ What are you talking about? I see it right here: jkh@wcarchive-> cd /archive/pub/FreeBSD/2.1.5-RELEASE/commerce/networking/ jkh@wcarchive-> ls README etinc lanstat jkh@wcarchive-> cat README etinc - Bandwidth manager DEMO lanstat - LanStat ethernet statistical lan analyser Please at least make a minimal effort to verify your claims before making accusations like this. There was no "selective oversight" exercised here, nor would I have omitted it without contacting you and explaining how or why your submission was unsuitable. Jordan From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 18 09:23:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA29644 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:23:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from etinc.com ([204.141.95.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA29639 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-usr11.etinc.com (dialup-usr11.etinc.com [204.141.95.132]) by etinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA26212; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 12:28:22 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 12:28:22 -0400 Message-Id: <199607181628.MAA26212@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Joe Greco From: dennis@etinc.com (Dennis) Subject: Re: AS/BGP on FreeBSD ? Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> is it possible to run multihomed with ppp? > >I'm not sure {if,why} you would want to, but yes, it is. Routing is >something that happens above the actual connection layer. and so it PPP. I assume that the writer was talking about dial-up, but of-course ppp runs on a T1 also. It would talk a longgggg time to download all the routes on a modem though..... Dennis . ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com Synchronous Communications Cards and Routers For Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame Relay, PPP, HDLC, and X.25 for BSD/OS, FreeBSD and LINUX From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 18 09:28:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA29917 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from etinc.com ([204.141.95.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA29906; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:28:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-usr11.etinc.com (dialup-usr11.etinc.com [204.141.95.132]) by etinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA26229; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 12:34:47 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 12:34:47 -0400 Message-Id: <199607181634.MAA26229@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" From: dennis@etinc.com (Dennis) Subject: Re: 2.1.5-RELEASE omission Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> >> Jordan, >> >> I noticed that our commercial submission to 2.1.5R (our Ethernet >> Bandwidth Limiter demo), isn't in the distribution. Was this a "selective >> oversight"? The submission was made on the day of the "last call" and >> It was right next to the netcon stuff which is on there........ > >What are you talking about? I see it right here: > >jkh@wcarchive-> cd /archive/pub/FreeBSD/2.1.5-RELEASE/commerce/networking/ >jkh@wcarchive-> ls >README etinc lanstat >jkh@wcarchive-> cat README >etinc - Bandwidth manager DEMO >lanstat - LanStat ethernet statistical lan analyser > >Please at least make a minimal effort to verify your claims before >making accusations like this. There was no "selective oversight" >exercised here, nor would I have omitted it without contacting >you and explaining how or why your submission was unsuitable. Ok...apologies. I saw netcon's stuff under commerce/netcon and expected to see ours under commerce/etinc... NeverMind then.... Dennis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com Synchronous Communications Cards and Routers For Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame Relay, PPP, HDLC, and X.25 for BSD/OS, FreeBSD and LINUX From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 18 09:31:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA00368 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA00362 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:31:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id LAA07498; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:30:13 -0500 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199607181630.LAA07498@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: AS/BGP on FreeBSD ? To: dennis@etinc.com (Dennis) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:30:13 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607181628.MAA26212@etinc.com> from "Dennis" at Jul 18, 96 12:28:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >> is it possible to run multihomed with ppp? > > > >I'm not sure {if,why} you would want to, but yes, it is. Routing is > >something that happens above the actual connection layer. > > and so it PPP. I assume that the writer was talking about dial-up, > but of-course ppp runs on a T1 also. It would talk a longgggg time > to download all the routes on a modem though..... That was the {if,why} part. :-) However, running something like ISDN, maybe it is not unreasonable... I'm looking into the practicality of ISDN as an "emergency fallback" mainly because it's relatively CHEAP.. ... JG From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 18 09:47:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA01866 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:47:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from etinc.com ([204.141.95.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA01860 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-usr11.etinc.com (dialup-usr11.etinc.com [204.141.95.132]) by etinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA26263; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 12:52:51 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 12:52:51 -0400 Message-Id: <199607181652.MAA26263@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Joe Greco From: dennis@etinc.com (Dennis) Subject: Re: AS/BGP on FreeBSD ? Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> >> is it possible to run multihomed with ppp? >> > >> >I'm not sure {if,why} you would want to, but yes, it is. Routing is >> >something that happens above the actual connection layer. >> >> and so it PPP. I assume that the writer was talking about dial-up, >> but of-course ppp runs on a T1 also. It would talk a longgggg time >> to download all the routes on a modem though..... > >That was the {if,why} part. :-) However, running something like ISDN, >maybe it is not unreasonable... > >I'm looking into the practicality of ISDN as an "emergency fallback" mainly >because it's relatively CHEAP.. Fallback and multi-homing are 2 different animals.... Dennis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com Synchronous Communications Cards and Routers For Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame Relay, PPP, HDLC, and X.25 for BSD/OS, FreeBSD and LINUX From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 18 09:52:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA02182 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:52:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA02176 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 09:52:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id LAA07542; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:50:57 -0500 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199607181650.LAA07542@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: AS/BGP on FreeBSD ? To: dennis@etinc.com (Dennis) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:50:57 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607181652.MAA26263@etinc.com> from "Dennis" at Jul 18, 96 12:52:51 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >> >> is it possible to run multihomed with ppp? > >> > > >> >I'm not sure {if,why} you would want to, but yes, it is. Routing is > >> >something that happens above the actual connection layer. > >> > >> and so it PPP. I assume that the writer was talking about dial-up, > >> but of-course ppp runs on a T1 also. It would talk a longgggg time > >> to download all the routes on a modem though..... > > > >That was the {if,why} part. :-) However, running something like ISDN, > >maybe it is not unreasonable... > > > >I'm looking into the practicality of ISDN as an "emergency fallback" mainly > >because it's relatively CHEAP.. > > Fallback and multi-homing are 2 different animals.... Not particularly. They are different implementations of the same problem - how to maintain more than one link to the Internet. ... JG From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 18 10:15:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA03336 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 10:15:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.210.193]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA03330; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 10:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.210.193]) by misery.sdf.com (8.7.5/UNS-1.0) with SMTP id KAA10609; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 10:27:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 10:27:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Samplonius To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Dennis , hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.1.5-RELEASE omission In-Reply-To: <9990.837706824@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > Jordan, > > > > I noticed that our commercial submission to 2.1.5R (our Ethernet > > Bandwidth Limiter demo), isn't in the distribution. Was this a "selective > > oversight"? The submission was made on the day of the "last call" and > > It was right next to the netcon stuff which is on there........ > > What are you talking about? I see it right here: > > jkh@wcarchive-> cd /archive/pub/FreeBSD/2.1.5-RELEASE/commerce/networking/ > jkh@wcarchive-> ls > README etinc lanstat > jkh@wcarchive-> cat README > etinc - Bandwidth manager DEMO > lanstat - LanStat ethernet statistical lan analyser > > Please at least make a minimal effort to verify your claims before > making accusations like this. There was no "selective oversight" > exercised here, nor would I have omitted it without contacting > you and explaining how or why your submission was unsuitable. > > Jordan Jordan, lanstat isn't made by ET inc. But the etinc stuff is there, just in the networking directory, not the netcon directory. Tom From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 18 10:24:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA03955 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 10:24:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA03950; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 10:24:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA10201; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 10:22:52 -0700 (PDT) To: Tom Samplonius cc: Dennis , hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.1.5-RELEASE omission In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Jul 1996 10:27:21 PDT." Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 10:22:52 -0700 Message-ID: <10199.837710572@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Jordan, lanstat isn't made by ET inc. I know that, it simply shares the networking directory with it. > But the etinc stuff is there, just in the networking directory, not the > netcon directory. And if it were in the netcon directory, Dennis would *really* be going ballistic here. :-) The only reason netcon isn't also under networking is that I'd already documented its position in the hierarchy before I started moving stuff around into categories, and it would have broken/confused a few things. Jordan From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 18 12:56:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA12560 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 12:56:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (root@orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA12554 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 12:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (scanner@orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.41]) by orion.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA08208; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 15:56:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 15:56:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Scanner To: "Matthew N. Dodd" cc: Dennis , BSD Conference Account , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: BSDCON In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: > On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Dennis wrote: > > Is there a human being behind this message? > > Calling him human would require a large stretch of the imagination. Ok thats it. One more attack on me from you or gary is gonna result in severe punishment. :-) -- ===================================| Webspan Inc., ISP Division. FreeBSD 2.1.5 is available now! | Phone: 908-367-8030 ext. 126 -----------------------------------| 500 West Kennedy Blvd., Lakewood, NJ-08701 Turning PCs into Workstations | E-Mail: scanner@webspan.net http://www.freebsd.org | SysAdmin / Network Engineer / Security ===================================| Member BSDNET team! http://www.bsdnet.org From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 18 13:05:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA13268 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 13:05:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (root@sasami.jurai.net [206.151.208.162]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA13253 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 13:05:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA04254; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 15:05:26 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 15:05:25 -0500 (CDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" X-Sender: winter@sasami To: Scanner cc: BSD Conference Account , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: BSDCON In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, Scanner wrote: > On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Dennis wrote: > > > Is there a human being behind this message? > > Calling him human would require a large stretch of the imagination. > Ok thats it. One more attack on me from you or gary is gonna result in > severe punishment. :-) Ummm... "Spank me daddy!" *smooch* | Matthew N. Dodd | winter@jurai.net | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | | Technical Manager | mdodd@intersurf.net | http://www.intersurf.net | | InterSurf Online | "Welcome to the net Sir, would you like a handbasket?"| From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 18 15:23:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA23604 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 15:23:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pinky.junction.net (pinky.junction.net [199.166.227.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA23584; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 15:23:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sidhe.memra.com (sidhe.memra.com [199.166.227.105]) by pinky.junction.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA06160; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 14:34:30 -0700 Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by sidhe.memra.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA10924; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 15:18:52 -0700 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 15:18:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Dillon To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Dennis , hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.1.5-RELEASE omission In-Reply-To: <9990.837706824@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: Organization: Memra Software Inc. - Internet consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > I noticed that our commercial submission to 2.1.5R (our Ethernet > > Bandwidth Limiter demo), isn't in the distribution. Was this a "selective > > oversight"? The submission was made on the day of the "last call" and > > It was right next to the netcon stuff which is on there........ > > What are you talking about? I see it right here: > > jkh@wcarchive-> cd /archive/pub/FreeBSD/2.1.5-RELEASE/commerce/networking/ > jkh@wcarchive-> ls > README etinc lanstat > jkh@wcarchive-> cat README > etinc - Bandwidth manager DEMO > lanstat - LanStat ethernet statistical lan analyser I love the net! Not only do we get the errata corrected, we also get the errata in the errata corrected! Michael Dillon - ISP & Internet Consulting Memra Software Inc. - Fax: +1-604-546-3049 http://www.memra.com - E-mail: michael@memra.com From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 18 16:07:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA26340 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 16:07:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from etinc.com ([204.141.95.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA26325; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 16:07:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-usr11.etinc.com (dialup-usr11.etinc.com [204.141.95.132]) by etinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA26901; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 19:13:13 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 19:13:13 -0400 Message-Id: <199607182313.TAA26901@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: dennis@etinc.com (Dennis) Subject: X.25 revisited Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We've just finished re-vamping X.25 for FreeBSD, and now that its a nice clean interface, I want to evaluate possibly modifying the ccitt stuff to work with our LAPB and X.25 stuff. The questions that I have are: 1) Is this worthwhile? Is it a well-done interface, or does it need to be reworked completely? 2) Is there a terminal server type application available for that interface so X.25 users dialing into a network could access the FreeBSD system, or does this need to be built? Thanks, Dennis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com Synchronous Communications Cards and Routers For Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame Relay, PPP, HDLC, and X.25 for BSD/OS, FreeBSD and LINUX From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 18 22:06:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA29594 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 22:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MindBender.HeadCandy.com (root@mindbender.headcandy.com [199.238.225.168]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA29585 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 22:06:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.HeadCandy.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA15085; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 22:06:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607190506.WAA15085@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.HeadCandy.com: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: "Matthew N. Dodd" cc: Scanner , BSD Conference Account , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDCON In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 18 Jul 96 15:05:25 -0500. Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 22:06:21 -0700 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: >On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, Scanner wrote: >> On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: >> > On Wed, 17 Jul 1996, Dennis wrote: >> > > Is there a human being behind this message? >> > Calling him human would require a large stretch of the imagination. >> Ok thats it. One more attack on me from you or gary is gonna result in >> severe punishment. :-) >Ummm... "Spank me daddy!" >*smooch* Boys, boys... Let's keep it off the list if you're not going to share with everyone. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@HeadCandy.com --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... Roll your own Internet access -- Seattle People's Internet cooperative. If you're in the Seattle area, ask me how. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 18 22:14:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA00398 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 22:14:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scapa.cs.ualberta.ca (root@scapa.cs.ualberta.ca [129.128.4.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA00391 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 22:14:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ve6kik by scapa.cs.ualberta.ca with UUCP id <13086-28205>; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 23:13:53 -0700 Received: from alive.ampr.ab.ca by ve6kik.ampr.ab.ca with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0uh79q-000OK1C; Thu, 18 Jul 96 22:27 WET DST Received: by alive.ampr.ab.ca (Linux Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0uh55X-00028bC; Thu, 18 Jul 96 20:14 MDT Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 20:14:41 -0600 (MDT) From: Marc Slemko To: Global Internet Shopping Mall cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cyclom-16Ye installation In-Reply-To: <199607180854.DAA09231@isot.isot.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, Global Internet Shopping Mall wrote: > I made sure in /sys/i386/conf/LOCAL contained: > device cy0 at isa? tty irq 5 iomem 0xd4000 iosiz 0x2000 vector cyintr > The IRQ and address on the card is correct. > > But the kernel log file say, > kernel: cy0 not found Cyclades has a _very_ nice DOS test program. Check out ftp://ftp.cyclades.com/pub/cyclades/linux/cyctest.exe. Boot from a DOS floppy and run it. If it can talk to the card, then you can be more sure there are no hardware problems. Be sure that the port module is plugged into the card properly; if the port module isn't plugged in, the card will not be detected. Double check the cable; one of the cables we got recently looked like it had been driven over by a forklift. I can't think of any real tricks involved in getting FreeBSD to detect it. > I called Cyclade, they said they don't have installation instruction for > FreeBSD, have to look it man pages. The man page only contains the above line. > > So I searched find / -name "cy*" and found duplicates 1st two being same file: > /usr/share/man/man4/i386/cy.4.gz > /usr/share/man/man4/cy.4.gz > /usr/share/man/cat4/cy.4.gz > Why is there duplicates, and is it neccessary or just taking up space??? The first two files are actually the same file, just hard linked to one another. The i386 directory comes from the install procedure, since i386 man pages are stored in a seperate directory since they don't apply to other architectures. The last one is the preformatted one; it is created the first time you read the man page so that it doesn't have to format it every time. -- Marc Slemko 1:342/1003@fidonet marcs@alive.ampr.ab.ca marcs@alive.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 18 22:58:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA05403 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 22:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gandalf.asiapac.net ([202.188.0.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA05397 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 22:58:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnc1101.asiapac.net (tnc1101.asiapac.net [202.188.1.101]) by gandalf.asiapac.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA24921 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 13:42:06 +0800 Message-Id: <199607190542.NAA24921@gandalf.asiapac.net> X-Sender: sckhoo@mail.asiapac.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 13:52:40 -0800 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Khoo Swee Chuan Subject: accounting Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hi, Sorry this is not exactly the right place for this. Anyone who done accounting for isp in unix env please email me. Thanx. I need to design a RDBMS system (msql?) to collect accounting info for billing purposes. Anyone done that b4? +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Khoo Swee Chuan ( The Network Connections ) sckhoo@asiapac.net | | http://www.asiapac.net/~sckhoo/ | | tel:603-7337757 fax:603-7345577 #include | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ "Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes." From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 18 23:43:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA08522 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 23:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (root@orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA08495; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 23:42:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bsdcon@localhost) by orion.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA09702; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 02:42:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 02:42:53 -0400 (EDT) From: BSD Conference Account To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: BSDCON call for papers. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk *** First call for papers at BSDCON '96! *** This is the first call for papers and speakers for bsdcon '96. All those wishing to lecture at bsdcon need to at least notify the organizers of your interest and topic of your paper this month. Final call will take place in 2 months. At that time no more submissions will be taken. All papers MUST be relevant to one of the many FREE *BSD unix (Net, Free, Open, etc..). That is the theme of BSDCON. Subject matter is open, networking, src control systems, routing, etc.. All those interested in lecturing send papers or ideas to bsdcon@webspan.net Direct all questions and comments to bsdcon@webspan.net Looking forward to hearing from all interested parties! Chris Watson scanner@bsdnet.org ===================================| BSDCON! An annual FREE *BSD Unix Event! FreeBSD 2.1.5 is available now! | Sponsored by the BSDNET organization! -----------------------------------| NetBSD, FreeBSD, OpenBSD! Turning PCs into Workstations | Bringing Truth, and strength to the http://www.freebsd.org | *BSD Camps! http://www.webspan.net/~bsdcon ===================================| E-mail bsdcon@webspan.net for more info! From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 19 00:04:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA10159 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 00:04:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (root@sasami.jurai.net [206.151.208.162]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA10150 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 00:04:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA07193; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 02:04:45 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 02:04:45 -0500 (CDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" X-Sender: winter@sasami To: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" cc: Scanner , BSD Conference Account , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDCON In-Reply-To: <199607190506.WAA15085@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com wrote: > Boys, boys... Let's keep it off the list if you're not going to share > with everyone. Feeling left out? You can hit on Scanner if you want to, Gary and I won't mind. *smirk* | Matthew N. Dodd | winter@jurai.net | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | | Technical Manager | mdodd@intersurf.net | http://www.intersurf.net | | InterSurf Online | "Welcome to the net Sir, would you like a handbasket?"| From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 19 01:54:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA15708 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 01:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vector.jhs.no_domain (slip139-92-42-134.ut.nl.ibm.net [139.92.42.134]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA15679; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 01:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vector.jhs.no_domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.jhs.no_domain (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA26326; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 01:18:01 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199607182318.BAA26326@vector.jhs.no_domain> To: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" cc: isp@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Opinions? From: "Julian H. Stacey" Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: Vector Systems Ltd. Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany Phone: +49.89.268616 Fax: +49.89.2608126 (later) Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ Mailer: EXMH 1.6.7, PGP available In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 17 Jul 1996 22:02:36 PDT." <199607180502.WAA09210@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 01:18:00 +0200 Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Reference: > From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" > Subject: Re: Opinions? Before current gets swamped with non current related stuff, arising from Michael's original post (NT as an OS for ISP's etc) .... As we have a mail list called isp@freebsd.org please follow up ISP stuff there, not to current@, Thanks. Julian -- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 19 06:52:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA26807 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 06:52:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nevis.oss.uswest.net (nevis.oss.uswest.net [204.147.85.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA26798 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 06:52:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from greg@localhost) by nevis.oss.uswest.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA05986 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 08:51:38 -0500 From: "Greg Rowe" Message-Id: <9607190851.ZM5984@nevis.oss.uswest.net> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 08:51:38 -0500 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10oct95) To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Raid for FreeBSD News System Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone have any suggestions or comments concerning using Raid disk systems for a large (15-20 gig) News system on FreeBSD. Are there any known hardware Raid systems that work well with FreeBSD ? Is it worth the additional cost of Raid or is it better to go with multiple controllers and disks ? Are there any performance/stability advantages of using Raid over multiple disks and controllers ? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks. -- Greg Rowe | U S West - Interact Services | INTERNET greg@uswest.net 111 Washington Ave. South | Fax: (612) 672-8537 Minneapolis, MN USA 55401 | Voice: (612) 672-8535 Never trust an operating system you don't have source for.... From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 19 08:48:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA04116 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 08:48:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MindBender.HeadCandy.com (root@mindbender.headcandy.com [199.238.225.168]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA04089; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 08:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.HeadCandy.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA18260; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 08:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607191548.IAA18260@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.HeadCandy.com: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: "Julian H. Stacey" cc: isp@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Opinions? In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 19 Jul 96 01:18:00 +0200. <199607182318.BAA26326@vector.jhs.no_domain> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 08:48:05 -0700 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Hi, Reference: >> From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" >> Subject: Re: Opinions? >Before current gets swamped with non current related stuff, >arising from Michael's original post (NT as an OS for ISP's etc) .... >As we have a mail list called isp@freebsd.org >please follow up ISP stuff there, not to current@, Thanks. I already posted a correction once -- I was *NOT* replying about NT as an OS for ISPs! I was posting about NT as an OS in the overall server OS market. Again: I was NOT speaking specifically about ISPs. In addition, I tried to direct all followup posts to freebsd-chat, but it didn't stick. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@HeadCandy.com --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... Roll your own Internet access -- Seattle People's Internet cooperative. If you're in the Seattle area, ask me how. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 19 09:08:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA05252 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pinky.junction.net (pinky.junction.net [199.166.227.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA05247 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sidhe.memra.com (sidhe.memra.com [199.166.227.105]) by pinky.junction.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA18600 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 08:18:59 -0700 Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by sidhe.memra.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA19443 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:03:38 -0700 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:03:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Dillon To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: accounting In-Reply-To: <199607190542.NAA24921@gandalf.asiapac.net> Message-ID: Organization: Memra Software Inc. - Internet consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, Khoo Swee Chuan wrote: > Anyone who done accounting for isp in unix env please > email me. Thanx. There are several such billing systems around. The one with the best reputation is UTA from http://www.rtd.com Michael Dillon - ISP & Internet Consulting Memra Software Inc. - Fax: +1-604-546-3049 http://www.memra.com - E-mail: michael@memra.com From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 19 23:18:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA17567 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:18:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA17562 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:18:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA16936; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:16:31 -0700 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199607200616.XAA16936@MediaCity.com> Subject: Re: Raid for FreeBSD News System To: greg@uswest.net (Greg Rowe) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:16:31 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9607190851.ZM5984@nevis.oss.uswest.net> from Greg Rowe at "Jul 19, 96 08:51:38 am" Reply-To: brian@MediaCity.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greg Rowe wrote: > Does anyone have any suggestions or comments concerning using Raid disk > systems for a large (15-20 gig) News system on FreeBSD. Are there any known > hardware Raid systems that work well with FreeBSD ? Is it worth the additional > cost of Raid or is it better to go with multiple controllers and disks ? Are > there any performance/stability advantages of using Raid over multiple disks > and controllers ? Any info would be appreciated. Thanks. > Greg Rowe | > U S West - Interact Services | INTERNET greg@uswest.net The answers to your questions depend on which RAID level you are thinking about. IMHO RAID3/5 is only useful if you are short on money. The write performance penalty and the money to overcome it are better spent on more drives to build a simple mirroring system. Especially on small (15-20 gig) News filesystems. On the other hand, RAID3/5 may have some benefit for truly large installations. mirroring is also sometimes called RAID1. -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 20 13:33:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA13556 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 13:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isot.isot.com (root@internet-of-texas.Houston.mci.net [204.70.37.26]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA13549 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 13:33:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gism.isot.com ([206.24.68.34]) by isot.isot.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA06725 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 11:07:15 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 11:07:15 -0500 Message-Id: <199607201607.LAA06725@isot.isot.com> X-Sender: gism@ns.isot.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Global Internet Shopping Mall Subject: device not configured? Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've created the devices ttyc0 - ttycf and edited the ttys, then ran kill -1 1. It gave me devices not configured. Have I missed a step somewhere in handbook? From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 20 14:05:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA16514 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 14:05:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isot.isot.com (root@internet-of-texas.Houston.mci.net [204.70.37.26]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA16509 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 14:05:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gism.isot.com ([206.24.68.34]) by isot.isot.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA07172 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 11:39:20 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 11:39:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199607201639.LAA07172@isot.isot.com> X-Sender: gism@ns.isot.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Global Internet Shopping Mall Subject: Automatic File System Check Failed Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Everything was going good. I was configuring the ttys and ran kill -1 1, after awhile I rebooted the system. Since then its telling me: swapon: /dev/wd0s2b: no such file or directory /dev/rwd0a: clean ..... /dev/wd0s3f: no such file or directory I haven't change any config to files systems, my /etc/fstab looks like this: /dev/wd0s2b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/wd0a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/wd0s3f /usr ufs rw 1 1 /dev/wd0s3e /var ufs rw 1 1 proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 Good thing this is my practice/learning PC... Would appreciate your adivce. From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 20 16:03:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA22887 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 16:03:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from guardian.fortress.org (fortress.org [199.84.158.128]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA22880 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 16:03:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from andrew@localhost) by guardian.fortress.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA16755; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 19:02:51 -0400 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 19:02:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Webster Reply-To: andrew@pubnix.net To: Global Internet Shopping Mall cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Automatic File System Check Failed In-Reply-To: <199607201639.LAA07172@isot.isot.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 20 Jul 1996, Global Internet Shopping Mall wrote: > Everything was going good. I was configuring the ttys and ran kill -1 1, > after awhile I rebooted the system. Since then its telling me: > > swapon: /dev/wd0s2b: no such file or directory > /dev/rwd0a: clean ..... > /dev/wd0s3f: no such file or directory Check in your /dev directory to make sure that these devices have not been accidentally deleted. I have seen this occur numerous times on systems that have crashed & burned. Some sort of hard-coded mechanism to recreate these /dev entries (how about inside fsck guys?) would be really nice! Andrew Webster - andrew@pubnix.net - http://www.pubnix.net PubNIX Montreal - Connected to the world - Branche au monde 514-990-5911 - P.O. Box 147, Cote St-Luc, Quebec, H4V 2Y3