From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Aug 4 01:26:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA21222 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 01:26:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsd.intrastar.net (BSD.INTRASTAR.NET [206.136.25.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA21217 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 01:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jsuter@localhost) by bsd.intrastar.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id DAA01349; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 03:26:27 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 03:26:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Jacob Suter To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: BSD? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sorry, but this is terribly off topic but I figured someone here may know... I'm a small ISP using a couple FreeBSD machines for some services. I've been given a couple Vaxstation 3100/30s w/ 32 megs ram and 300 Meg HDDs. I have heard about a BSD/4.4 port that was out a few years ago that would work on these things, but I haven't been able to find a word about it online. Was this a free distribution? Any idea where I might be able to find some information about it? Thanks JS From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Aug 4 02:21:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA24902 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 02:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MindBender.HeadCandy.com (root@mindbender.headcandy.com [199.238.225.168]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA24895 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 02:21:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.HeadCandy.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA05280; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 02:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199608040921.CAA05280@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.HeadCandy.com: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Jacob Suter cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD? In-reply-to: Your message of Sun, 04 Aug 96 03:26:27 -0500. Date: Sun, 04 Aug 1996 02:21:08 -0700 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [...] >been given a couple Vaxstation 3100/30s w/ 32 megs ram and 300 Meg HDDs. >I have heard about a BSD/4.4 port that was out a few years ago that would >work on these things, but I haven't been able to find a word about it >online. >Was this a free distribution? Any idea where I might be able to find >some information about it? I think you're looking for NetBSD. Send mail to port-vax@NetBSD.org, or browse http://www.NetBSD.org/. As far as I know, there is no VAX port of FreeBSD. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@HeadCandy.com --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... Roll your own Internet access -- Seattle People's Internet cooperative. If you're in the Seattle area, ask me how. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Aug 4 08:12:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA08890 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 08:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tyger.inna.net (root@tyger.inna.net [206.151.66.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA08885 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 08:12:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caught.inna.net (tom@caught.inna.net [206.151.66.7]) by tyger.inna.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA05465; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 11:18:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 11:13:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas Arnold To: Steve Reid cc: John Hart , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Software and Dial-Up Networking In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 2 Aug 1996, Steve Reid wrote: > 1. Within thirty (30) days following distribution of COMPANY's > Internet Product, COMPANY agrees to deploy the advanced features of > MS' Internet Explorer HTML extensions in the design of COMPANY's home > page. I have one paged linked off our homepage where I've used about Every advanced Microsloth feature you can use... My homepage is and will remain fairly plain and Ive already logged where the Microsoft Brownshirts have examined the site. +-----------------------------------------------+ : Tom Arnold - No relation to Rosanne : : SysAdmin/Pres - TBI, Ltd ( inna.net ) : : An ISP serving the Virginia Middle Peninsula : +-----------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Aug 4 09:16:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA11970 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 09:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from magigimmix.xs4all.nl (magigimmix.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.25]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA11964 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 09:16:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asterix.xs4all.nl (asterix.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.11]) by magigimmix.xs4all.nl (8.7.5/XS4ALL) with ESMTP id SAA28560 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 18:16:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from chicago.xs4all.nl (uucp@localhost) by asterix.xs4all.nl (8.7.5/8.7.2) with UUCP id SAA12123 for freebsd.org!freebsd-isp; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 18:07:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from chicago.xs4all.nl (Chicago.xs4all.nl [127.0.0.1]) by Chicago.xs4all.nl (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA24219; Sun, 4 Aug 1996 12:50:15 +0200 Message-ID: <32048064.31DFF4F5@Chicago.xs4all.nl> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 1996 12:50:12 +0200 From: Sander Temme Organization: Wherever X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica" CC: freebsd.org!freebsd-isp@chicago.xs4all.nl Subject: Re: Software and Dial-Up Networking References: <199608021409.LAA03502@unix1.ism.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica wrote: <..> > >Also, I have a lot of users logging in with Dial-up networking, and > >currently we have to have them bring up a terminal window after dialing > >so they can login manually and then hit F7 to continue. > > Go in the properties of the dial-up icon you create. Click in configure, > just under the modem name. Go in options and DO NOT mark the settings: > "Show a terminal window before dialling" and "Show a terminal window after > dialling" . This will solve the problem. > Only if your terminal server does PAP or CHAP authentication. If it doesn't, you need a script to log in. On the Windows 95 CD, look in ADMIN\APPTOOLS\DSCRIPT. There, in SCRIPT.DOC, you'll find the language reference to the Dial-up Scripting tool. You can install the dial-up scripting tool on your Win95 box by right-clicking RNAPLUS.INF et cetera. The Dialup scripting tool shows up under Accessories in your Apple- (sorry, Start-) menu and allows you to connect a script file to any dialup connections on your PC. A typical script would be: proc main Waitfor "ogin:" ; $USERID and $PASSWORD escapes take infor from Connect to... window Transmit $USERID Transmit "^M" Waitfor "assword:" Transmit $PASSWORD Transmit "^M" endproc WARNING! The company I work for, which shall remain unnamed as to protect the innocent, has chosen to use the dialup scripting tool for logging in. This means the customers (all thumbs & no brain) have to manually install the tool on their computers and associate the script. This has caused the support dept. (me and my friends) no end of grief. Most of my problems arise because the dialup scripting tool is either not installed right or does not function right. Don't do it. Have your terminal servers speak PAP or CHAP. Both Windows 95 and FreePPP 2.5 (Mac) can talk CHAP, and you can leave the login prompt in for whoever uses anything else. Sander -- Sander the Sybersurfer sander@chicago.xs4all.nl Powered by FreeBSD http://www.xs4all.nl/~sctemme Finger sctemme@xs4all.nl for PGP Public Key. From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 5 00:26:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA27021 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 00:26:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from esimene.cynet.net.au (root@esimene.cynet.net.au [203.24.16.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA27016 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 00:25:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from warpy.cynet.net.au (lindsaar.cynet.net.au [203.24.16.100]) by esimene.cynet.net.au (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA01131 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 17:24:47 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199608050724.RAA01131@esimene.cynet.net.au> From: Mikel Lindsaar Date: Mon, 05 Aug 96 17:33:22 +1000 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Tape Backup Questions. X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.07 Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk G'Day all. What is the best way to selectively backup a system onto a tape. ie. Backup the entire system except for certain specified directories. Also, once backed up, what is the procedure to do a full system restore (in the event of starting from a "virgin" system) And do filesystems such as /var and /dev restore properly? Or must I do a "minimal" system install and then restore "over-the-top" in single user mode. Finally, what is the best method of backing up tapeless systems? These systems are on the same network connected via Ethernet. I have seen referance to Amanda and I guess the other option is NFS mounting them and going from there, but that brings up the restore issue again. I have sufficient DAT tapes and a drive etc. Thanking all of you in advance Regards and Salutations, Mikel -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Mikel Lindsaar | "If the dream is big enough, mikel@cynet.net.au | the facts don't count!" ----------------------------------------------------------- (Under Construction) http://www.cynet.net.au/~mikel/ ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 5 02:30:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA04690 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 02:30:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from olympus.cyburbia.net.au (olympus.cyburbia.net.au [203.19.43.177]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA04648 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 02:29:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by olympus.cyburbia.net.au (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA07831; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 18:57:46 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 18:57:46 +0930 (CST) From: Justin Viiret X-Sender: justin@olympus To: Joe Greco cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AutoPPP with mgetty and pppd In-Reply-To: <199608031534.KAA28339@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 3 Aug 1996, Joe Greco wrote: > Check the mailing list archives of -isp for a message containing (PPP and > PAP and getty). I posted a detailed set of instructions at the time.. Got it - note to everyone else ... Joe's modified pppd works like a charm with mgetty, as well. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Justin Viiret Cyburbia Network Services justin@cyburbia.net.au Co-sysadmin and busy guy http://cyburbia.net.au/~justin/ Voice: 08-379-2492 -------------------[Relax, they're only ones and zeroes]--------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 5 05:32:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA15161 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 05:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pino.ngonet.be (pino.ngonet.be [193.190.166.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA15156 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 05:32:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from koekiemonster.ngonet.be (tommie.ngonet.be [193.190.166.2]) by pino.ngonet.be (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA02430 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 13:24:57 +0200 Message-ID: <3205E8C9.29EF@ngonet.be> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 14:27:53 +0200 From: Gunter Loos Reply-To: Gunter.Loos@ngonet.be Organization: NgoNet Brussels X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Isp Questions @ FreeBSD" Subject: YP in a specific situation: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm currently running the 2.1.0 - Release on a demilitarized zone as a firewall. Alas, I'm also forced to use this one as the main dial-up server. This means it has a _lot_ of accounts on it, shadow passwords of course. Only ppp connections are run from here, happily enough no shells. All the mail-accounts however are situated on a linux 2.0.0 server on the same network. Accounts are made here, using the standard /etc/passwd file, and /etc/aliases for pop-names. Now my question is: how can I seemlessly introduce NIS on the two machines, making it possible for everyone to dial in, but having easier administration? Currently I have to create each user twice. So: o which NIS should I use? o how can I keep the password files, thus not recreating all the users? Thanks in advance, Gul. -- . .__ . |Nationaal Centrum voor OntwikkelingsSamenwerking vzw, NgoNet _| _ [ __ | |Voice Gunter.Loos@+32 2 5392620 Fax +32 2 5391343 (_](/, [_./(_|| |mailto:gul@ngonet.be "You are all weirdos." - Sam the Eagle ----MijnEigenWoordenNietVanIemandAnders - MyOwnExpressionsNotSomeoneElses---- From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 5 07:19:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA20156 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 07:19:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isot.isot.com (root@internet-of-texas.Houston.mci.net [204.70.37.26]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA20150 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 07:19:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gism.isot.com (gism.isot.com [206.24.68.34]) by isot.isot.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id FAA16355; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 05:03:06 -0500 Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 05:03:06 -0500 Message-Id: <199608051003.FAA16355@isot.isot.com> X-Sender: gism@ns.isot.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Dan Benjamin From: Global Internet Shopping Mall Subject: Re: number of servers Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >We were looking into a seperate CSU/DSU/router, but let me know about It has a driver for Windows NT, Linux, and BSD. Is the BSD binaries compatible with FreeBSD? From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 5 08:23:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA24879 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 08:23:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isot.isot.com (root@internet-of-texas.Houston.mci.net [204.70.37.26]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA24870 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 08:23:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gism.isot.com (gism.isot.com [206.24.68.34]) by isot.isot.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id GAA16683; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 06:07:03 -0500 Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 06:07:03 -0500 Message-Id: <199608051107.GAA16683@isot.isot.com> X-Sender: gism@ns.isot.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Veggy Vinny From: Global Internet Shopping Mall Subject: Re: Question about Cisco 2503i price Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > You can always get the Cisco 2501 on a PC Card with 4 megs of RAM >for about $500 and just use any old 8088 PC since all it needs is the >power from the slot... As you can program it via the Serial Port on the >card... How about Ricomm n2csu? At $1200 contains router/csu/dsu in single card w/ additional router. Don't know if it works with FreeBSD, it does work with BSDi. From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 5 10:26:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA03935 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 10:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from garion.hq.ferg.com (pm1-03.wmbg.widomaker.com [204.17.220.103]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA03925 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 10:26:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.hq.ferg.com (localhost.hq.ferg.com [127.0.0.1]) by garion.hq.ferg.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA29384 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 13:26:44 -0400 Message-Id: <199608051726.NAA29384@garion.hq.ferg.com> X-Authentication-Warning: garion.hq.ferg.com: Host localhost.hq.ferg.com didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 From: Branson Matheson To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: perl compiler Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 13:26:43 -0400 Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well I wasn't sure if anyone is interested ... but if anyone was I was sure it would be somone here. The security implications are enought to have warrented me looking at this immediately. I have just compiled the alpha version of the perl compiler. I have run some tests and there good points and bad points: Good 'ole "Hello World." took 448K of disk space ( OUCH! ) however a program that started with 17k of perl code only compiled to 770K of executable. So that for each K of perl code it created ~18k of executable. It seems to support lots of neat perlish things... but one thing that i have not been able to get to work is ndbm format. I will continue to see about that ( since alot of my code depends on it. ) For those interested, you must d/l and install at least version 5.002 of perl. There is a patch that you have to add to get it to compile with the compiler... so get both the compiler source and the perl source at the same time. The compiler source can be found at: http://www.oasis.leo.org/perl/exts/perl/Compiler.dsc.html And the perl package is in it's usuall place: http://www.freebsd.org The compiler compiles outta the box... there are two steps to it use: /usr/local/bin/perl -MO=C tms.pl > tms.c This creates C code... not very readable ... but it's there /usr/local/bin/perl /usr/local/pcompiler/cc_harness -o tms tms.c If you are having problems, make sure that you have copied the .h files and the library created at perl compile time to /usr/local/lib/perl5/i386-Freebsd/5.003/CORE Good luck and have fun. -branson -- ============================================================================= Branson Matheson | Ferguson Enterprises | If Pete and Repeat were System Administrator | W: (804) 874-7795 | sittin on a fence and Pete Unix, Perl, WWW | branson@widomaker.com | fell off, who is left? From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 5 12:05:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA11808 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 12:05:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isot.isot.com (root@internet-of-texas.Houston.mci.net [204.70.37.26]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA11802 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 12:05:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gism.isot.com (gism.isot.com [206.24.68.34]) by isot.isot.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA18289; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 09:49:38 -0500 Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 09:49:38 -0500 Message-Id: <199608051449.JAA18289@isot.isot.com> X-Sender: gism@ns.isot.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Khoo Swee Chuan From: Global Internet Shopping Mall Subject: Re: number of servers Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>I'm using internal card by Riscom n2csu which has T1 csu/dsu/router >livingston isdn card, is the driver available in freebsd (2.1.5)? Don't know. Its avail in BSD. From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 5 12:24:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA13076 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 12:24:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA13067 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 12:24:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (richardc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA03827; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 12:25:13 -0700 Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 12:25:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Veggy Vinny To: Global Internet Shopping Mall cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question about Cisco 2503i price In-Reply-To: <199608051107.GAA16683@isot.isot.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 5 Aug 1996, Global Internet Shopping Mall wrote: > > You can always get the Cisco 2501 on a PC Card with 4 megs of RAM > >for about $500 and just use any old 8088 PC since all it needs is the > >power from the slot... As you can program it via the Serial Port on the > >card... > > How about Ricomm n2csu? At $1200 contains router/csu/dsu in single card w/ > additional router. Don't know if it works with FreeBSD, it does work with BSDi. Hmmm, no idea about that one since haven't heard of that brand before... I heard Ascend, Adtran, and Cisco is the way to go. I think the card you are looking at doesn't really need a operating system but acts like a serial com port so you can configure it either from the communications program in your OS or do it from a laptop via a cable. The card probably just uses the power from the PC slot to work and nothing else. Atleast that's how the Cisco AccessPC Card works... Is this a 56k or a T1 card? Vince GaiaNet Systems Unix Networking Operations http://www.gaianet.net From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 5 12:37:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA13758 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 12:37:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.dcrt.nih.gov (ost82.capecod.net [204.255.214.82]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA13753 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 12:37:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from crtb@localhost) by localhost.dcrt.nih.gov (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA00809; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 15:37:02 -0400 Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 15:37:02 -0400 From: Chuck Bacon Message-Id: <199608051937.PAA00809@localhost.dcrt.nih.gov> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, mikel@cynet.net.au Subject: Re: Tape Backup Questions. Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > G'Day all. > What is the best way to selectively backup a system onto a tape. ie. > Backup the entire system except for certain specified directories. CYA with dump(8). You can dump whatever you like, all the way to full. If you are on FreeBSD, try 'man dump' and see suggestions for establishing a schedule. > Also, once backed up, what is the procedure to do a full system restore > (in the event of starting from a "virgin" system) And do filesystems such > as /var and /dev restore properly? Or must I do a "minimal" system > install and then restore "over-the-top" in single user mode. Everything can be restored from the dump tape onto a mounted filesystem. No, you can't use dump to restore to a raw disk. > Finally, what is the best method of backing up tapeless systems? These > systems are on the same network connected via Ethernet. I have seen > referance to Amanda and I guess the other option is NFS mounting them and > going from there, but that brings up the restore issue again. Tapeless systems can be dumped and restored over an Ethernet. In experiments, I discovered that between a Convex (near-supercomputer) and SGI Challenge (giant server), with fast tapes, the backup rate over a lightly loaded Ethernet was about a Gig per hour. If you ran two dump processes over the same, you got two Gigs per hour. You would obviously get better performance on 100mbps Ethernet. > I have sufficient DAT tapes and a drive etc. > Thanking all of you in advance > Regards and Salutations, > Mikel > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Mikel Lindsaar | "If the dream is big enough, > mikel@cynet.net.au | the facts don't count!" > ----------------------------------------------------------- > (Under Construction) http://www.cynet.net.au/~mikel/ > ----------------------------------------------------------- Chuck Bacon - crtb@capecod.net ABHOR SECRECY - DEFEND PRIVACY From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 5 12:38:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA13809 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 12:38:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA13804 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 12:38:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA14590; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 21:37:04 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199608051937.VAA14590@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: number of servers To: gism@isot.isot.com (Global Internet Shopping Mall) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 21:37:03 +0200 (SAT) Cc: sckhoo@asiapac.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199608051449.JAA18289@isot.isot.com> from Global Internet Shopping Mall at "Aug 5, 96 09:49:38 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >>I'm using internal card by Riscom n2csu which has T1 csu/dsu/router > >livingston isdn card, is the driver available in freebsd (2.1.5)? > > Don't know. Its avail in BSD. > I have written a driver for the RISCom N2 card for FreeBSD, but as far as I know there isn't a n2csu driver. I don't know what will have to be added/ changed to make that work for the n2csu card. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 5 13:40:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA18265 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 13:40:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from etinc.com (etinc.com [204.141.244.98]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA18248 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 13:40:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-usr11.etinc.com (dialup-usr11.etinc.com [204.141.95.132]) by etinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA00357 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 16:44:26 -0400 Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 16:44:26 -0400 Message-Id: <199608052044.QAA00357@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: dennis@etinc.com (Dennis) Subject: Re: Question about Cisco 2503i price Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >before... I heard Ascend, Adtran, and Cisco is the way to go. This is the truly exasperating part of this (damned) business! Dennis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com Synchronous Communications Cards and Routers For Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame Relay, PPP, HDLC, and X.25 for BSD/OS, FreeBSD and LINUX From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 5 14:37:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA22617 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 14:37:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pinky.junction.net (pinky.junction.net [199.166.227.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA22599 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 14:36:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sidhe.memra.com (sidhe.memra.com [199.166.227.105]) by pinky.junction.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA00621; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 13:45:35 -0700 Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by sidhe.memra.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA22453; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 14:30:24 -0700 Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 14:30:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Dillon Reply-To: Michael Dillon To: iap@vma.cc.nd.edu cc: linuxisp@jeffnet.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, os2-isp@dental.stat.com Subject: See you all at ONE ISPCON Message-ID: Organization: Memra Software Inc. - Internet consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well, I decided to run up my credit card and fly down to San Francisco for ONE ISPCON. Hopefully I will be able to meet with some of you there and put faces to the names. I will be sure to drop in to the ISPC session Saturday - 1:30 pm - Room: 4 22 but hopefully I will be able to make contact before then since Saturday is the last day. Michael Dillon - ISP & Internet Consulting Memra Software Inc. - Fax: +1-604-546-3049 http://www.memra.com - E-mail: michael@memra.com From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 5 14:55:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA24495 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 14:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fyeung5.netific.com (netific.vip.best.com [205.149.182.145]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA24487 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 14:55:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fyeung@localhost) by fyeung5.netific.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA14178; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 15:00:16 GMT From: francis yeung Message-Id: <199608051500.PAA14178@fyeung5.netific.com> Subject: Re: number of servers To: gism@isot.isot.com (Global Internet Shopping Mall) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 15:00:15 +0000 () Cc: sckhoo@asiapac.net, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, robbie@sdlcomm.com In-Reply-To: <199608051449.JAA18289@isot.isot.com> from "Global Internet Shopping Mall" at Aug 5, 96 09:49:38 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Greeting, John Hay wrote the Riscom n2 driver. It works for 2.2, 2.1 and 2.1.5. Francis > >>I'm using internal card by Riscom n2csu which has T1 csu/dsu/router > >livingston isdn card, is the driver available in freebsd (2.1.5)? > > Don't know. Its avail in BSD. > > > From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 5 15:45:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA28873 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 15:45:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.continet.com ([205.199.35.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA28864 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 15:45:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Default ([205.199.35.67]) by falcon.continet.com (post.office MTA v1.9.3b ID# 0-10248) with SMTP id AAA208 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 15:54:50 -0700 X-Sender: blackened@continet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: David Subject: BSDI BOOT ERROR Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 15:54:49 -0700 Message-ID: <19960805225448972.AAA208@Default> Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a friend who runs bsdi and he has this question why when I boot I get "we0: 3c503 dual port RAM error" and my netcard dont work..Its a 3c503 card.. From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 5 18:31:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA02993 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 18:31:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tweety.bhp.com.au (tweety.bhp.com.au [192.83.224.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA02988 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 18:31:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gossamer.itmel.bhp.com.au (gossamer.itmel.bhp.com.au [134.18.115.254]) by tweety.bhp.com.au (8.7.5/8.7.5) with ESMTP id MAA13713; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 12:28:57 +1100 (EST) Received: from netman.nzsakl.bhp.com.au (netman.nzsakl.bhp.com.au [152.153.40.126]) by gossamer.itmel.bhp.com.au (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id LAA15078; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 11:28:55 +1000 (EST) Received: from abevin (abevin.nzsakl.bhp.com.au [152.153.41.20]) by netman.nzsakl.bhp.com.au (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA03211; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 13:28:47 +1200 (NZST) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 13:28:47 +1200 (NZST) Message-Id: <199608060128.NAA03211@netman.nzsakl.bhp.com.au> From: Andrew Bevin To: justin@cyburbia.net.au Subject: Re: AutoPPP with mgetty and pppd Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Pronto E-Mail [version 2.01] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Justin Viiret wrote: > > G'day everyone... > > Seems like I've been trying to do this for ages now ;) I'm trying to get > the AutoPPP features of mgetty to dump a user into pppd with PAP > authentication based on the /etc/passwd file. I've got that much working - > everything's fine. The only difficulty now is that when a user's logged on > via AutoPPP, he's logged in the wtmp file (there's an entry for his > username when I type 'last'), but he doesn't appear to be being logged in > utmp - so the 'w' or 'finger' commands don't show him. This makes things > rather difficult for user tracking. ;) > > Has anyone managed to get pppd to log the user in both the utmp and the > wtmp files? > > I'm running stock FreeBSD 2.1.5-RELEASE. > I run pppd direct on the tty via init. This allows my Windows 95 users to login without a dialup script, the dialup script was the biggest cause of user support problems. Windows 95 is still my biggest support problem! I encountered the same problems as you with pppd only updating wtmp and not utmp. I also wanted pppd to read the users .ppprc file. I am runnning 2.1-STABLE, so it should be the same as you. You may have also noticed that pppd doesnt always update the wtmp file when a user exits. I think when a process aborts abnormally init will clean up any entries in utmp and wtmp, but only if there is an entry in utmp. So as far as I can tell; the fact that pppd updates wtmp but not utmp can really be classed as a bug. I gave up waiting for someone else to fix it, as I'm not much of a Unix programmer, and had a go myself. It was relatively easy to do, but Im not sure whether I've done it in the best possible way. If you want I can send you the diffs for the file upap.c in pppd source. It now works great for me, I can now report users time logged correctly and can do a 'who' and see who's logged in. Im really not sure whether, or indeed how, to submit my changes to the freebsd group, perhaps someone could help me. Andrew Bevin From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 5 20:00:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA12564 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 20:00:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (root@orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA12550 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 20:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA17420; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 23:00:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.webspan.net: Host gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: dennis@etinc.com (Dennis) cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Question about Cisco 2503i price In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 05 Aug 1996 16:44:26 EDT." <199608052044.QAA00357@etinc.com> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 23:00:08 -0400 Message-ID: <17416.839300408@orion.webspan.net> Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dennis wrote in message ID <199608052044.QAA00357@etinc.com>: > > >before... I heard Ascend, Adtran, and Cisco is the way to go. > > This is the truly exasperating part of this (damned) business! Perhaps you'd care to explain why a FreeBSD PC built out of your products is better than a $38k Cisco 7010, with 8 sync serial ports, 2 100bTX fast ether ports and a HSSI port? I doubt you could even DO that with a single PC... I agree, for someone who doesn't have the money or the need to go with the expensive stuff, then it's worth a look, but we do, and I would NEVER recommend a PC for what I'm looking to do ... I've seen too many of them fail for mysterious reasons, and then find that your SCSI cable has gone bad for some reason. There are just too many point of failures in a typical PC for me to be happy. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 6 07:11:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA20318 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 07:11:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from etinc.com (etinc.com [204.141.244.98]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA20312; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 07:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-usr11.etinc.com (dialup-usr11.etinc.com [204.141.95.132]) by etinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA13455; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 10:15:50 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 10:15:50 -0400 Message-Id: <199608061415.KAA13455@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Gary Palmer" From: dennis@etinc.com (Dennis) Subject: Re: Question about Cisco 2503i price Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Dennis wrote in message ID ><199608052044.QAA00357@etinc.com>: >> >> >before... I heard Ascend, Adtran, and Cisco is the way to go. >> >> This is the truly exasperating part of this (damned) business! > >Perhaps you'd care to explain why a FreeBSD PC built out of your >products is better than a $38k Cisco 7010, with 8 sync serial ports, 2 >100bTX fast ether ports and a HSSI port? I doubt you could even DO >that with a single PC... Its not. But its as good as the 4XXX that you pay $16,000. for. Dennis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com Synchronous Communications Cards and Routers For Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame Relay, PPP, HDLC, and X.25 for BSD/OS, FreeBSD and LINUX From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 6 07:13:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA20409 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 07:13:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from etinc.com (etinc.com [204.141.244.98]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA20400; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 07:13:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-usr11.etinc.com (dialup-usr11.etinc.com [204.141.95.132]) by etinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA13479; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 10:17:06 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 10:17:06 -0400 Message-Id: <199608061417.KAA13479@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Gary Palmer" From: dennis@etinc.com (Dennis) Subject: Re: Question about Cisco 2503i price Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Dennis wrote in message ID ><199608052044.QAA00357@etinc.com>: >> >> >before... I heard Ascend, Adtran, and Cisco is the way to go. >> >> This is the truly exasperating part of this (damned) business! > >Perhaps you'd care to explain why a FreeBSD PC built out of your >products is better than a $38k Cisco 7010, with 8 sync serial ports, 2 >100bTX fast ether ports and a HSSI port? I doubt you could even DO >that with a single PC... Its not. But its as good as the 4XXX that you pay $16,000. for. Dennis PS: Please read the subject, and pay attention. We're talking about a low-end box here.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com Synchronous Communications Cards and Routers For Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame Relay, PPP, HDLC, and X.25 for BSD/OS, FreeBSD and LINUX From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 6 07:21:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA20740 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 07:21:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isot.isot.com (root@internet-of-texas.Houston.mci.net [204.70.37.26]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA20733 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 07:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gism.isot.com (gism.isot.com [206.24.68.34]) by isot.isot.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id FAA01875 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 05:05:55 -0500 Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 05:05:55 -0500 Message-Id: <199608061005.FAA01875@isot.isot.com> X-Sender: gism@ns.isot.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Global Internet Shopping Mall Subject: Long Delay during Boot Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm getting very long delay on (several minutes each line) during boot while displaying the following lines: ep0:flags=863 mtu 1500 inet 206.24.68.15 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 206.24.68.255 ether 00:a0:24:12:c2:3c lo0:......... add net default: gateway isot.isot.com After finish booting, I can ping anyone, but also delays long time before the first ping. Also, nslookup does not work beyond the local network. Any ideas I could try? From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 6 07:59:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA23083 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 07:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linkou.trace.com.tw (ronald@[192.72.68.166]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA23068 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 07:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ronald@localhost) by linkou.trace.com.tw (8.6.12/8.6.9) id WAA03860; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 22:57:16 +0800 Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 22:57:16 +0800 (CCT) From: Ronald Wiplinger To: Global Internet Shopping Mall cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Long Delay during Boot In-Reply-To: <199608061005.FAA01875@isot.isot.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Global Internet Shopping Mall wrote: > I'm getting very long delay on (several minutes each line) > during boot while displaying the following lines: > ep0:flags=863 mtu 1500 > inet 206.24.68.15 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 206.24.68.255 > ether 00:a0:24:12:c2:3c > lo0:......... > add net default: gateway isot.isot.com > > After finish booting, I can ping anyone, but also delays long time before > the first ping. > > Also, nslookup does not work beyond the local network. > > Any ideas I could try? > Have a look at your hardware setting. I guess you use the same IRQ twice. Ronald From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 6 07:59:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA23105 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 07:59:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gate.leissner.se (gate.leissner.se [193.45.192.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA23096 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 07:59:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leissner.se (uucp@localhost) by gate.leissner.se (8.6.12/8.6.9) with UUCP id OAA09774 for freebsd.org!freebsd-isp; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 14:59:10 GMT Received: from lda.leissner.se by lda.leissner.se id aa23696; 6 Aug 96 16:58 SST Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960806145900.00a7edf0@lda> X-Sender: pol@lda X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 16:59:00 +0200 To: Global Internet Shopping Mall From: Peter Olsson Subject: Re: Long Delay during Boot Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sounds like error in /etc/resolv.conf. Peter Olsson pol@leissner.se From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 6 08:08:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA23691 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 08:08:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server3.syd.mail.ozemail.net (server3.syd.mail.ozemail.net [203.108.7.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA23675 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 08:08:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oznet16.ozemail.com.au (oznet16.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.109]) by server3.syd.mail.ozemail.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id BAA13057 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 01:08:33 +1000 (EST) Received: from oznet02.ozemail.com.au (oznet02.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.124]) by oznet16.ozemail.com.au (8.7.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id BAA05149 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 01:08:33 +1000 (EST) Received: from slcai1p49.ozemail.com.au (slcai1p49.ozemail.com.au [203.7.188.65]) by oznet02.ozemail.com.au (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA11011 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 01:08:31 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199608061508.BAA11011@oznet02.ozemail.com.au> From: "Gary Stern" To: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" Date: Wed, 07 Aug 96 01:08:19 +1000 Reply-To: "Gary Stern" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Gary Stern's Registered PMMail 1.51 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Radius Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Just wondering where there is a radius port for FreeBSD located. Gary. ---------------------------------------- gstern@pobox.com From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 6 08:13:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA23969 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 08:13:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.multinet.net (helix.multinet.net [204.138.173.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA23959 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 08:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from help.multinet.net (help.multinet.net [204.191.112.5]) by mail.multinet.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id PAA20684 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 15:07:52 GMT Message-Id: <199608061507.PAA20684@mail.multinet.net> X-Sender: admin@multinet.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 09:18:11 -0400 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: admin@mail.multinet.net (graydon hoare) Subject: strangest error I've ever seen Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hey ISP champs -- here's one I'm totally lost on. I've got a user dialing into a netblazer, which runs through a router (which does packet filtering) into (a) the internet and (b) the LAN housing the machine which serves their web pages. When they connect to any site in the entire world, including our other BSD machines on the same LAN, they get everything served up tasty and fast. When they connect to the bsd machine that has their web pages, it takes about 2-5 minutes to serve a single page, and about 2 minutes to give a login prompt if they telnet or FTP. This machine is doing nothing else right now. 100% idle. When I connect to it locally, everything is instant. When I telnet to the netblazer they're coming in through, and then open an FTP from the netblazer's internal client to the host, it's instant. Every other site works fine for them, they insist that their machine is configured fine and can access every other machine on our LAN... and they actually DO get packets from the screwy host, just several minutes behind schedule. Has anyone ever seen a problem even remotely like this before? It's not a congestion problem, and the firewall is letting everything through without complaint... tha machine in question runs freeBSD 2.1.5 with wu_ftpd-academ 2.4 beta 9 & tcp wrapper. any suggestions? They keep calling me and snidely implying that I haven't bought a fast enough server. -GRRRR-- Thanks -graydon From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 6 11:13:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA05149 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 11:13:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA05108 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 11:13:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA01796; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 11:10:45 -0700 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199608061810.LAA01796@MediaCity.com> Subject: Re: Radius To: gstern@pobox.com Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 11:10:45 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199608061508.BAA11011@oznet02.ozemail.com.au> from Gary Stern at "Aug 7, 96 01:08:19 am" Reply-To: brian@MediaCity.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gary Stern wrote: > Just wondering where there is a radius port for FreeBSD located. > gstern@pobox.com I'm not aware of a port. Especially considering there are specific versions for Ascend, NetExpress, and Livingston (no doubt others too). I run the three platforms listed above. Which are you in need of? -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 6 11:39:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA07874 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 11:39:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.aros.net (mailhub.aros.net [205.164.111.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA07868 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 11:39:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from terra.aros.net (terra.aros.net [205.164.111.10]) by mailhub.aros.net (8.7.5/Unknown) with ESMTP id MAA15424; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 12:54:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from angio@localhost) by terra.aros.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) id MAA23625; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 12:38:58 -0600 From: Dave Andersen Message-Id: <199608061838.MAA23625@terra.aros.net> Subject: Re: Radius To: gstern@pobox.com Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 12:38:58 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199608061508.BAA11011@oznet02.ozemail.com.au> from "Gary Stern" at Aug 7, 96 01:08:19 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 PGP2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Depends what you mean by radius. If you mean the radius daemon, then Livingston's RADIUS compiles with a few tweaks to the makefile (include -lcrypt), Merit radius compiles, and I'm not sure about ESVA. If you mean a set of login/ftp/etc/ replacements that let you use radius for authentication, I don't believe such a beast exists. -Dave Andersen Lo and behold, Gary Stern once said: > > Just wondering where there is a radius port for FreeBSD located. > > Gary. > ---------------------------------------- > gstern@pobox.com > > -- angio@aros.net Complete virtual hosting and business-oriented system administration Internet services. (WWW, FTP, email) http://www.aros.net/ http://www.aros.net/about/virtual "There are only two industries that refer to their customers as 'users'." From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 6 12:11:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA11850 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 12:11:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA11841 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 12:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by agora.rdrop.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #17) id m0unrWw-0008ybC; Tue, 6 Aug 96 12:11 PDT Message-Id: From: batie@agora.rdrop.com (Alan Batie) Subject: Re: strangest error I've ever seen To: admin@mail.multinet.net (graydon hoare) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 12:11:02 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199608061507.PAA20684@mail.multinet.net> from "graydon hoare" at Aug 6, 96 09:18:11 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > When they connect to the bsd machine > that has their web pages, it takes about 2-5 minutes to serve a single page, > and about 2 minutes to give a login prompt if they telnet or FTP. Which version of bsd are you running? This describes exactly the case when the incoming connection queue is full, but most Unixes fixed the queue size a couple of years ago when the web took off and they all ran into the problem. I think it's SO_MAXCONN, but I can dig it up if you can't find it. What happens is the packets are just dropped, and the client sees it as "congestion" and backs off. -- Alan Batie ______ We're Starfleet officers: batie@agora.rdrop.com \ / Weird is part of the job. +1 503 452-0960 \ / --Captain Janeway DE 3C 29 17 C0 49 7A 27 \/ 40 A5 3C 37 4A DA 52 B9 It is my policy to avoid purchase of any products from companies which use unrequested email advertisements or telephone solicitation. From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 6 12:43:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA15223 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 12:43:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA15204 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 12:43:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA03069; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 12:35:45 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199608061935.MAA03069@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Radius To: brian@MediaCity.com Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 12:35:44 -0700 (PDT) Cc: gstern@pobox.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199608061810.LAA01796@MediaCity.com> from Brian Litzinger at "Aug 6, 96 11:10:45 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Gary Stern wrote: > > Just wondering where there is a radius port for FreeBSD located. > > gstern@pobox.com > > I'm not aware of a port. There is a port of radius in the ports collection: SkyRsh# ls /home/ncvs/ports/*/radius Makefile,v files patches pkg SkyRsh# You should be able to pick it up under ftp://ftp.freebsd.org:/pub/FreeBSD/ports some place. > Especially considering there are specific > versions for Ascend, NetExpress, and Livingston (no doubt others > too). > > I run the three platforms listed above. Which are you in need of? > > -- > Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD > http[s]://www.mpress.com > -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 6 13:32:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA19046 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 13:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tchnet.tchnet.com (tchnet.tchnet.com [198.109.196.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA19036 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 13:32:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dashadow@localhost) by tchnet.tchnet.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA18688; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 16:32:02 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 16:32:02 -0400 (EDT) From: John Hart To: Brian Litzinger cc: gstern@pobox.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Radius In-Reply-To: <199608061810.LAA01796@MediaCity.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Brian Litzinger wrote: > I'm not aware of a port. Especially considering there are specific > versions for Ascend, NetExpress, and Livingston (no doubt others > too). > Check the ports collection. It is in there. John ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Hart, System Administrator Technet Internet Services dashadow@tchnet.com (517)796-8200 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 6 14:45:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA00636 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 14:45:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (root@synwork.com [199.3.234.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA00620 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 14:45:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (flaq@ns1.synwork.com [204.120.255.17]) by synwork.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA15144; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 16:44:32 -0500 Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 16:44:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike To: Global Internet Shopping Mall cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Long Delay during Boot In-Reply-To: <199608061005.FAA01875@isot.isot.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Global Internet Shopping Mall wrote: > I'm getting very long delay on (several minutes each line) > during boot while displaying the following lines: > ep0:flags=863 mtu 1500 > inet 206.24.68.15 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 206.24.68.255 > ether 00:a0:24:12:c2:3c > lo0:......... > add net default: gateway isot.isot.com > > After finish booting, I can ping anyone, but also delays long time before > the first ping. > > Also, nslookup does not work beyond the local network. > > Any ideas I could try? > > What do you have in /etc/resolv.conf? You may want to add any hosts refered to in /etc/sysconfig to /etc/hosts to speed up any delays during the boot process. Mike ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Syn-Work Media, Inc. | WWW Development & Hosting | Life Safety http://www.synwork.com | Systems Integration | CCTV mike@synwork.com | Voice/Data/Fiber | Access Control Flaq on IRC | Dukane Distributor | BICSI/RCDD ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 6 17:09:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA16972 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 17:09:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rhiannon.clari.net.au ([203.27.85.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA16962 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 17:09:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from peter@localhost) by rhiannon.clari.net.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA01174 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 10:10:11 +1000 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 10:10:11 +1000 From: Peter Hawkins Message-Id: <199608070010.KAA01174@rhiannon.clari.net.au> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Trial accounts Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi fellow ISPers, I'd like to gather some feelings about providing (perhaps restricted) "trial" access to anyone who logs in (user=register). It's pretty common here but I have steered away from it for two reasons: 1. security 2. The potential for someone to dial in under that name indefinitely. However I don't want to lose custom :) so if there are ways of addressing 1. and 2. I'd like to hear them. Peter From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 6 18:23:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA20617 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 18:23:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isot.isot.com (root@internet-of-texas.Houston.mci.net [204.70.37.26]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA20612 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 18:23:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gism.isot.com (gism.isot.com [206.24.68.34]) by isot.isot.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA08587 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 16:07:59 -0500 Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 16:07:59 -0500 Message-Id: <199608062107.QAA08587@isot.isot.com> X-Sender: gism@ns.isot.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Global Internet Shopping Mall Subject: USR Not reset Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm playing two different modems, Hays Accura and USR Sportster. I'm having problem with both. Occasionally, the Hays would not answer the line when ringing, I had to power recycle it to make it work again. The Sportster, after user hangs up, it would reset, TR would stay off. Anyone experienced same problem a s I? From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 6 21:09:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA03933 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 21:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MindBender.HeadCandy.com (root@mindbender.headcandy.com [199.238.225.168]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA03913 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 21:09:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.HeadCandy.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA21108; Tue, 6 Aug 1996 21:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199608070409.VAA21108@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.HeadCandy.com: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: batie@agora.rdrop.com (Alan Batie) cc: admin@mail.multinet.net (graydon hoare), freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: strangest error I've ever seen In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 06 Aug 96 12:11:02 -0700. Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 21:09:05 -0700 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> When they connect to the bsd machine >> that has their web pages, it takes about 2-5 minutes to serve a single page, >> and about 2 minutes to give a login prompt if they telnet or FTP. >Which version of bsd are you running? This describes exactly the case when >the incoming connection queue is full, but most Unixes fixed the queue size It also sounds exactly like the case where hostnames resolves timeout. Make sure your /etc/hosts, /etc/resolv.con, and DNS stuff is all working correctly on the server (and client, if applicable). ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@HeadCandy.com --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... Roll your own Internet access -- Seattle People's Internet cooperative. If you're in the Seattle area, ask me how. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 7 01:25:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA24537 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 01:25:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bitbucket.edmweb.com (bitbucket.edmweb.com [204.244.190.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA24532 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 01:25:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from steve@localhost) by bitbucket.edmweb.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA00621; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 01:25:24 -0700 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 01:25:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Reid To: Global Internet Shopping Mall cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USR Not reset In-Reply-To: <199608062107.QAA08587@isot.isot.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm playing two different modems, Hays Accura and USR Sportster. I'm having > problem with both. > Occasionally, the Hays would not answer the line when ringing, I had to > power recycle it to make it work again. The Sportster, after user hangs up, > it would reset, TR would stay off. Anyone experienced same problem a s I? This sounds like the usuall problems had when using cheap modems. The average modem will work fine for dial-out, but automatically answering the line is a whole other matter. I don't know about the Accura, but the Sportster is by no means top-of-the-line. Many people swear by USR Couriers. They're expensive, but they're said to be among the most reliable. We've been using a pair of 14.4k Cardinal internal modems in our BBS here at EDM, and they've been running fine for years. We've decided to use Cardinal 28.8k externals (which I think are upgradeable to 33.6) to set up a modem pool for the ISP we're starting here. They're not very expensive. We'll know in a month or two if the 28.8k Cardinals hold up as well as the old 14.4k. ===================================================================== | Steve Reid - SysAdmin & Pres, EDM Web (http://www.edmweb.com/) | | Email: steve@edmweb.com Home Page: http://www.edmweb.com/steve/ | | PGP (2048/9F317269) Fingerprint: 11C89D1CD67287E68C09EC52443F8830 | | -- Disclaimer: JMHO, YMMV, TANSTAAFL, IANAL. -- | ===================================================================:) From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 7 02:50:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA00286 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 02:50:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsd.intrastar.net (BSD.INTRASTAR.NET [206.136.25.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA00281 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 02:50:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jsuter@localhost) by bsd.intrastar.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id EAA03564; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 04:51:56 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 04:51:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Jacob Suter To: Steve Reid cc: Global Internet Shopping Mall , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: USR Not reset In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, Steve Reid wrote: > We've been using a pair of 14.4k Cardinal internal modems in our BBS here > at EDM, and they've been running fine for years. We've decided to use > Cardinal 28.8k externals (which I think are upgradeable to 33.6) to set up > a modem pool for the ISP we're starting here. They're not very expensive. > We'll know in a month or two if the 28.8k Cardinals hold up as well as the > old 14.4k. I have 10 Cardinal 28.8k externals here. I have had trouble with the power supplies before I got them on my UPS (I had two different modems get "stuck" offhook). I have noticed they connect considerably better on my rather low quality lines than some Sportsters that I have tested. I currently have a Courier V.everything external here that I am testing, and it connects a little better (one "step" higher than the Cardinals on the same line and source), but its generally not enough to worry about, as the cardinals auto-rate up generally after your connection (something that the Sportsters REFUSED to do, if anything they'd go down). I have 8 of the Cardinals on a Livingston portmaster (nearly 5 months), and two on a Cyclades card out of my FreeBSD machine (Soon to be 4). The cardinals now come in 33.6k flavors, which I have not tested. 9 of my 10 modems are "software upgradable" to V.34+, but I have not really found a reason to bother as they are working well now, and the folks that actually do connect 28.8k are on battleship modems that don't have 33.6k capability. I've been considering the boca rack systems (about $150/line @ 10 lines in a 16-line possible rack). The cardinals are a few bucks left, and are basically so stackable that they are as easy to take care of as a rack, other than all the moronic little power supplies (something I am fixing to take care of)... Thanks Jacob Suter Intrastellar Internet Service Grapeland, Texas From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 7 05:47:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA14007 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 05:47:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from connet80.com (connet80.connet80.com [199.2.214.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA13995 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 05:47:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from meljr@localhost) by connet80.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id FAA00229; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 05:46:44 -0700 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 05:46:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mel Lester Jr." To: Peter Hawkins cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Trial accounts In-Reply-To: <199608070010.KAA01174@rhiannon.clari.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk They are not a customer until they pay. Free trials are a marketing scheme that probably doesn't pencil out. People don't appreciate what they don't pay for and you would be better off giving them free on-site installation with a prepaid account. Give the first month's payment to the installer and keep 70% of your new customers for at least one year. The other 30% will move or leave you for other valid reasons that no one can control. What is a paying account worth over a year? How many free trial users actually convert to paying customers? -mel +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Mel Lester Jr. meljr@ConNet80.com - Operations Manager ConNet80 | | ConNet80 - PDX's Fast Lane on the Information SuperHighway | | Connect with ConNet80, it pays! http://www.ConNet80.com/~meljr | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, Peter Hawkins wrote: > Hi fellow ISPers, > I'd like to gather some feelings about providing (perhaps restricted) "trial" > access to anyone who logs in (user=register). It's pretty common here but I > have steered away from it for two reasons: > > 1. security > 2. The potential for someone to dial in under that name indefinitely. > > However I don't want to lose custom :) so if there are ways of > addressing 1. and 2. I'd like to hear them. > > Peter > From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 7 08:10:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA03662 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 08:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from katan.pomona.edu (katan.pomona.edu [134.173.78.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA03648 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 08:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from john@localhost) by katan.pomona.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA16531; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 08:10:21 -0700 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 08:10:20 -0700 (PDT) From: john To: Peter Hawkins cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Trial accounts In-Reply-To: <199608070010.KAA01174@rhiannon.clari.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, Peter Hawkins wrote: > I'd like to gather some feelings about providing (perhaps restricted) "trial" > 1. security > 2. The potential for someone to dial in under that name indefinitely. > > However I don't want to lose custom :) so if there are ways of > addressing 1. and 2. I'd like to hear them. > > Peter --- well, from my experience i've seen two easy ways of extending acct use. 1. a file under the name of "TERMSET*" was placed in a trial home directory which altered the time counter and the user was allowed to use the acct indefinitely. i'm not sure exactly what TERMSET* was altering, but it worked 2. after a trial period, even though the acct had expired, ftp was still open. so someone was able to ftp a new .login file and consequently dialin indefinitely. both methods aren't real security holes, simple settings changes would do the trick. it's more of a reflection on the sysadmins. they were either too busy, too lazy or too stupid to take care of it. hope everything works out well for you l8r From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 7 08:49:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA08656 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 08:49:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA08648 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 08:49:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id KAA02641; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 10:47:16 -0500 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199608071547.KAA02641@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: Trial accounts To: john@katan.pomona.edu (john) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 10:47:15 -0500 (CDT) Cc: peter@clari.net.au, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "john" at Aug 7, 96 08:10:20 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, Peter Hawkins wrote: > > > I'd like to gather some feelings about providing (perhaps restricted) "trial" > > 1. security > > 2. The potential for someone to dial in under that name indefinitely. > > > > However I don't want to lose custom :) so if there are ways of > > addressing 1. and 2. I'd like to hear them. > > > > Peter > --- > well, from my experience i've seen two easy ways of extending acct use. > > 1. a file under the name of "TERMSET*" was placed in a trial home > directory which altered the time counter and the user was allowed to use the > acct indefinitely. > i'm not sure exactly what TERMSET* was altering, but it worked > > 2. after a trial period, even though the acct had expired, ftp was still > open. so someone was able to ftp a new .login file and consequently > dialin indefinitely. > > both methods aren't real security holes, simple settings changes would do > the trick. it's more of a reflection on the sysadmins. they were either > too busy, too lazy or too stupid to take care of it. I will note that BSD login does have support for an "account expiration date". This would seem ideal for this sort of application. ... JG From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 7 18:51:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA23824 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 18:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA23819 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 18:51:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id UAA03578; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 20:49:12 -0500 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199608080149.UAA03578@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: Long Delay during Boot To: flaq@synwork.com (Mike) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 20:49:12 -0500 (CDT) Cc: gism@isot.isot.com, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Mike" at Aug 6, 96 04:44:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > I'm getting very long delay on (several minutes each line) > > during boot while displaying the following lines: > > ep0:flags=863 mtu 1500 > > inet 206.24.68.15 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 206.24.68.255 > > ether 00:a0:24:12:c2:3c > > lo0:......... > > add net default: gateway isot.isot.com > > > > After finish booting, I can ping anyone, but also delays long time before > > the first ping. > > > > Also, nslookup does not work beyond the local network. > > > > Any ideas I could try? > > What do you have in /etc/resolv.conf? You may want to add any hosts > refered to in /etc/sysconfig to /etc/hosts to speed up any delays during > the boot process. That will not help; you have to twiddle /etc/host.conf to search host file first. This is standard on all my boxes because if I choose to wire in an address, there must be a darn good reason :-) I have seen "long delays" when the nameserver is not on the same subnet and therefore any name lookups before the default route is added get messy. ... JG From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 7 19:04:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA25199 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 19:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA25162; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 19:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id VAA03627; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 21:04:14 -0500 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199608080204.VAA03627@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: PCI Motherboards.. To: isp@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 21:04:14 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sorry for the somewhat on-topic but not quite message.. I am looking for PCI motherboards and hoping maybe someone had a few suggestions. I am not looking for any ol' PCI MB. I am looking for a MB that can handle multiple bus masters correctly (i.e. 486/Saturn II, or 586/Triton chipsets, etc). That's still not the hard part. I need to be able to handle 3 or 4 long PCI cards. The ASUS SP3G's and ASUS Triton-I boards I have here both have the CPU right in the wrong spot. I looked at an Intel Endeavor board and it looked somewhat promising, it looks to have three of four slots unobstructed. But I have zero experience with them. One of my PC vendor friends is pulling in a number of boards for eval, but I thought I would ask here first. Application: anything using things like an Adaptec 3985 (think: NFS file server) or a Znyx 314 (think: nifty router). Anyone solved this problem yet? :-) Thanks, ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/546-7968 From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 7 19:45:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA28009 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 19:45:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (root@synwork.com [199.3.234.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA28001 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 19:45:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (flaq@ns1.synwork.com [204.120.255.17]) by synwork.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA21015; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 21:43:13 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 21:43:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike To: Joe Greco cc: gism@isot.isot.com, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Long Delay during Boot In-Reply-To: <199608080149.UAA03578@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, Joe Greco wrote: > > > > > I'm getting very long delay on (several minutes each line) > > > during boot while displaying the following lines: > > > ep0:flags=863 mtu 1500 > > > inet 206.24.68.15 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 206.24.68.255 > > > ether 00:a0:24:12:c2:3c > > > lo0:......... > > > add net default: gateway isot.isot.com > > > > > > After finish booting, I can ping anyone, but also delays long time before > > > the first ping. > > > > > > Also, nslookup does not work beyond the local network. > > > > > > Any ideas I could try? > > > > What do you have in /etc/resolv.conf? You may want to add any hosts > > refered to in /etc/sysconfig to /etc/hosts to speed up any delays during > > the boot process. > > That will not help; you have to twiddle /etc/host.conf to search host > file first. > > This is standard on all my boxes because if I choose to wire in an address, > there must be a darn good reason :-) > > I have seen "long delays" when the nameserver is not on the same subnet and > therefore any name lookups before the default route is added get messy. > > ... JG > This is true. I didn't think to suggest that to him. Shouldn't he still add hosts to /etc/hosts? Mike ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Syn-Work Media, Inc. | WWW Development & Hosting | Life Safety http://www.synwork.com | Systems Integration | CCTV mike@synwork.com | Voice/Data/Fiber | Access Control Flaq on IRC | Dukane Distributor | BICSI/RCDD ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 7 19:51:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA28589 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 19:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA28533; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 19:50:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA24028; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 12:32:44 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199608080302.MAA24028@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: PCI Motherboards.. To: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com (Joe Greco) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 12:32:44 +0930 (CST) Cc: isp@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199608080204.VAA03627@brasil.moneng.mei.com> from "Joe Greco" at Aug 7, 96 09:04:14 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Joe Greco stands accused of saying: > > I am not looking for any ol' PCI MB. I am looking for a MB that can > handle multiple bus masters correctly (i.e. 486/Saturn II, or 586/Triton > chipsets, etc). That's still not the hard part. > > I need to be able to handle 3 or 4 long PCI cards. > > The ASUS SP3G's and ASUS Triton-I boards I have here both have the CPU > right in the wrong spot. The current Soyo Triton boards have the CPU placed such that you can fit 3 long PCI cards (and only one long ISA card). These boards work very well for us; they have 256K PB cache on the board (still have a PB slot for more if you need it, but that would occlude one of the long PCI slots). They're also pretty cheap. > One of my PC vendor friends is pulling in a number of boards for eval, > but I thought I would ask here first. Your pal should have no trouble sourcing Soyo boards; if you need a proper part number let me know, but basically "Soyo Triton PB cache board" should be all they need. > Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 8 01:37:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA22132 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 01:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (root@sasami.jurai.net [206.151.208.162]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA22127 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 01:37:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA05761; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 03:37:21 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 03:37:20 -0500 (CDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Gary Stern cc: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Radius In-Reply-To: <199608061508.BAA11011@oznet02.ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, Gary Stern wrote: > Just wondering where there is a radius port for FreeBSD located. Prolly in /ports/net/radius, but if you can't add -lcrypt to the LIBFLAGS, I'll warn you that you'll probably be in for a ride. Most of the usefull things that you can do with radius require site specific code. I'm in the process of cleaning up my hacked up copy of radius to work with my Max 400xs, and when I started I had no idea how um... involved radius would be. But, its kinda nifty now, as I've almost got it set so it can autodetect b/t PAP and shell logins with out prefixes or suffixes to the username. Radius is cool, but don't be afraid to get your fingers dirty. Have a good one. | Matthew N. Dodd | winter@jurai.net | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | | Technical Manager | mdodd@intersurf.net | http://www.intersurf.net | | InterSurf Online | "Welcome to the net Sir, would you like a handbasket?"| From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 8 08:16:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA13227 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 08:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tyger.inna.net (root@tyger.inna.net [206.151.66.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA13190; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 08:16:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caught.inna.net (tom@caught.inna.net [206.151.66.7]) by tyger.inna.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA20548; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 11:22:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 11:16:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas Arnold To: Joe Greco cc: isp@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PCI Motherboards.. In-Reply-To: <199608080204.VAA03627@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, Joe Greco wrote: > I am not looking for any ol' PCI MB. I am looking for a MB that can > handle multiple bus masters correctly (i.e. 486/Saturn II, or 586/Triton > chipsets, etc). That's still not the hard part. > > I need to be able to handle 3 or 4 long PCI cards. > > The ASUS SP3G's and ASUS Triton-I boards I have here both have the CPU > right in the wrong spot. Have a look at the Tyan Tomcat-I. 3 of the PCI slots are unobstructed, the fourth is in line with the CAIST socket. +-----------------------------------------------+ : Tom Arnold - No relation to Rosanne : : SysAdmin/Pres - TBI, Ltd ( inna.net ) : : The Middle Peninsula's Internet Connection : +-----------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 8 08:19:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA13396 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 08:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smople.thehub.com.au (smople.thehub.com.au [203.17.162.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA13377 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 08:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from richard@localhost) by smople.thehub.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id BAA15213; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 01:16:11 +1000 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 01:16:11 +1000 (EST) From: Richard J Uren To: "Matthew N. Dodd" cc: Gary Stern , "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Radius In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 8 Aug 1996, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: > On Wed, 7 Aug 1996, Gary Stern wrote: > > Just wondering where there is a radius port for FreeBSD located. > > Prolly in /ports/net/radius, but if you can't add -lcrypt to the LIBFLAGS, > I'll warn you that you'll probably be in for a ride. Most of the usefull > things that you can do with radius require site specific code. > > I'm in the process of cleaning up my hacked up copy of radius to work with > my Max 400xs, and when I started I had no idea how um... involved radius > would be. But, its kinda nifty now, as I've almost got it set so it can > autodetect b/t PAP and shell logins with out prefixes or suffixes to the > username. > Ascend have a radius port as well that has a couple of extra ascend specific features. With almost trivial tinkering you can get that going - its based on 1.16 like the FreeBSD port & probably handy if you've got ascend gear. Cheers Richard From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 8 09:03:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA16036 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 09:03:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abyss.void.net (root@void.net [207.30.81.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA16030 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 09:03:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dan@localhost) by abyss.void.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) id MAA00279; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 12:02:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 12:02:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Benjamin cc: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" Subject: UPS Systems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I'm looking for input on various UPS systems and software in use in your ISPs. It would be nice to locate a UPS and software that would be smart enough to actually shutdown the box when the time came and restart it later with a power-cut (some I've seen play with run levels). Any input would be appreciated. -Dan =========Dan=Benjamin==========dan@void.net========= George Orwell was an optimist. ==================================================== From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 8 09:52:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA21061 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 09:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyvox.net.au (gateway.cyvox.net.au [203.24.200.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA21052 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 09:52:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by cyvox.net.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA08950; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 02:22:31 +0930 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 02:22:31 +0930 (CST) From: mail To: isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Question - PAP Authentication In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can someone tell me how PAP works. Is there somthing more to it than determinig whether an incoming call is ppp or not. If this is the case would a straight ppp shell do the trick denying the user shell access?? cheers, Alek. From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 8 09:57:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA21692 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 09:57:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyvox.net.au (gateway.cyvox.net.au [203.24.200.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA21680 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 09:57:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by cyvox.net.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA09013; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 02:27:55 +0930 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 02:27:55 +0930 (CST) From: mail To: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" Subject: Subject: Question - PAP Authentication In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can someone tell me how PAP works. Is there somthing more to it than determinig whether an incoming call is ppp or not. If this is the case would a straight ppp shell do the trick denying the user shell access?? cheers, Alek. From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 8 12:48:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA07570 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 12:48:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bitbucket.edmweb.com (bitbucket.edmweb.com [204.244.190.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA07555 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 12:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from steve@localhost) by bitbucket.edmweb.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA00180; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 12:47:41 -0700 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 12:47:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Reid To: mail cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Question - PAP Authentication In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Can someone tell me how PAP works. > Is there somthing more to it than determinig whether an incoming call is > ppp or not. If this is the case would a straight ppp shell do the trick > denying the user shell access?? PAP is the Password Authentication Protocol. It's PPP's eqivalent of a login prompt. It receives a username and password during PPP negotiation, and if that matches what PPP has in it's database, the user is allowed to complete the PPP connection. You can create a small shell script that runs ppp or pppd with whatever options you need and specify that script as a login shell for a user. If you have PAP working properly, you could have all users share one passwordless account and depend on PAP to check which people are valid PPP users. You can even run pppd directly from init (by editing /etc/gettytab) and skip the login prompt altogether. For more info on setting up a FreeBSD system as a PPP server, see http://www.ssimicro.com/~jeremyc/ppp.html and whatever you can find at http://www.freebsd.org/ ===================================================================== | Steve Reid - SysAdmin & Pres, EDM Web (http://www.edmweb.com/) | | Email: steve@edmweb.com Home Page: http://www.edmweb.com/steve/ | | PGP (2048/9F317269) Fingerprint: 11C89D1CD67287E68C09EC52443F8830 | | -- Disclaimer: JMHO, YMMV, TANSTAAFL, IANAL. -- | ===================================================================:) From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 8 14:56:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA17178 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 14:56:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hauki.clinet.fi (root@hauki.clinet.fi [194.100.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA17153 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 14:56:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cantina.clinet.fi (root@cantina.clinet.fi [194.100.0.15]) by hauki.clinet.fi (8.7.5/8.6.4) with ESMTP id AAA16721; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 00:55:58 +0300 (EET DST) Received: (hsu@localhost) by cantina.clinet.fi (8.7.5/8.6.4) id AAA24324; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 00:55:58 +0300 (EET DST) Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 00:55:58 +0300 (EET DST) Message-Id: <199608082155.AAA24324@cantina.clinet.fi> From: Heikki Suonsivu To: "Matthew N. Dodd" Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-reply-to: "Matthew N. Dodd"'s message of 31 Jul 1996 06:34:52 +0300 Subject: Re: Question about Cisco 2503i price Organization: Clinet Ltd, Espoo, Finland References: Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From: "Matthew N. Dodd" I've got a source for ZNYX 314s @ $125. He doesn't have many left, and doesn't get them in that often, but they're more than worth it. Email me if you're interested. (A ZNYX 314 for those of you who don't know, is a 4 port dc21040 based ethernet card for PCI. Very nifty.) I have got 4 of them, only 1 of which works correctly with FreeBSD driver. I doubt those 3 all are bad, probably there are versions which have some hardware difference compared to working ones... -- Heikki Suonsivu, T{ysikuu 10 C 83/02210 Espoo/FINLAND, hsu@clinet.fi mobile +358-40-5519679 work +358-0-43542270 fax -4555276 home -8031121 From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 8 16:30:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA23882 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 16:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (root@sasami.jurai.net [206.151.208.162]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA23877 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 16:30:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA13874; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 18:30:15 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 18:30:14 -0500 (CDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Heikki Suonsivu cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question about Cisco 2503i price In-Reply-To: <199608082155.AAA24324@cantina.clinet.fi> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Heikki Suonsivu wrote: > I have got 4 of them, only 1 of which works correctly with FreeBSD driver. > I doubt those 3 all are bad, probably there are versions which have some > hardware difference compared to working ones... What does the board that works look like? Are the 21040s arranged like: X X X X or like: X X X X ? | Matthew N. Dodd | winter@jurai.net | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | | Technical Manager | mdodd@intersurf.net | http://www.intersurf.net | | InterSurf Online | "Welcome to the net Sir, would you like a handbasket?"| From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 8 23:53:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA17218 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 23:53:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (root@orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA17211 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 23:53:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA04155; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 02:52:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.webspan.net: Host gpalmer@localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Dan Benjamin cc: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: UPS Systems In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 08 Aug 1996 12:02:10 EDT." Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 02:52:32 -0400 Message-ID: <4151.839573552@orion.webspan.net> Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dan Benjamin wrote in message ID : > It would be nice to locate a UPS and software that would be smart enough > to actually shutdown the box when the time came and restart it later with > a power-cut (some I've seen play with run levels). Umm? The best that you can hope for is that monitoring s/w on the machine(s) notices that the battery is getting low and does the shutdown for you. The APC SmartUPS & MatrixUPS series can take SNMP cards and it's not THAT difficult to get a client monitoring the UPS and to do a shutdown when needed (The APC SNMP card will even give you an expected runtime estimate given current load :-) ). Reading through the SNMP MIB for the APC, it seems that it turns the power back on automatically on restoration of power (and from experience it does), but with SNMP you can configure a delay to allow the UPS to charge BEFORE starting to load it again. Even without the optional SNMP card, the APC BackupUPS (and higher) machines have serial ports which can be used to alert a daemon on the system to impending battery death. A lot of similar products from other manufacturers (ViewSonic, Tripp Lite, for example) have similar features, but I've only worked with the APC models. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 9 01:32:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA23196 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 01:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA23187 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 01:32:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA13122; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 18:32:43 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 18:32:41 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: MS Frontpage server extensions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, There must be thousands of FreeBSD ISPs out there. What are people doing about supporting FrontPage? FreeBSD is still not a supported OS. Has anyone got the BSD-OS/2.0 version to work under 2.1.5? Any other solutions? Thanks, Danny From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 9 05:54:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA06482 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 05:54:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abyss.void.net (root@void.net [207.30.81.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA06472 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 05:54:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dan@localhost) by abyss.void.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) id IAA00269; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 08:52:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 08:52:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Benjamin To: "Daniel O'Callaghan" cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MS Frontpage server extensions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dan, > There must be thousands of FreeBSD ISPs out there. What are people doing > about supporting FrontPage? FreeBSD is still not a supported OS. > Has anyone got the BSD-OS/2.0 version to work under 2.1.5? I use Frontpage extensions with 2.1.5-RELEASE on a daily basis, and so do my users. Download the one for BSDI 2.x and you're on your way. Believe me, FreeBSD *is* a supported OS ... ;-) There is _one_ problem though. Frontpage uses a different password encryption scheme to generate its passwords. The password you use for the Frontpage "admin" (generated on the PC you're using and then saved to the /data dir of the web site). The fix for this is simple. Just use a password for the Frontpage admin that you used for the webmaster (or another user). Then cut-and-paste that password into the following file (replacing the old encrypted password). This is where mine lives, anyway (once inside the /data dir, all will be the same): /usr/local/www/data/_vti_pvt/service.pwd Good luck. =========Dan=Benjamin==========dan@void.net========= George Orwell was an optimist. ==================================================== From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 9 06:58:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA13177 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 06:58:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skiddaw.elsevier.co.uk (root@skiddaw.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.60]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA13168 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 06:58:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by skiddaw.elsevier.co.uk (8.6.13/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA08218 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 14:58:22 +0100 Received: from tees.elsevier.co.uk (actually host tees) by snowdon with SMTP (PP); Fri, 9 Aug 1996 14:57:47 +0100 Received: (from dpr@localhost) by tees.elsevier.co.uk (8.6.13/8.6.12) id OAA12058; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 14:56:58 +0100 To: Dan Benjamin Cc: "Daniel O'Callaghan" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MS Frontpage server extensions References: From: Paul Richards Date: 09 Aug 1996 14:56:57 +0100 In-Reply-To: Dan Benjamin's message of Fri, 9 Aug 1996 08:52:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <57u3uc7j9y.fsf@elsevier.co.uk> Lines: 20 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.30 Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dan Benjamin writes: > > There must be thousands of FreeBSD ISPs out there. What are people doing > > about supporting FrontPage? FreeBSD is still not a supported OS. > > Has anyone got the BSD-OS/2.0 version to work under 2.1.5? > > I use Frontpage extensions with 2.1.5-RELEASE on a daily basis, and so do > my users. > > Download the one for BSDI 2.x and you're on your way. Believe me, > FreeBSD *is* a supported OS ... ;-) I seem to remember one of the developers mentioning that Apache on FreeBSD is one of the platforms they have in their development team. -- Paul Richards. Originative Solutions Ltd. (Netcraft Ltd. contractor) Elsevier Science TIS online journal project. Email: p.richards@elsevier.co.uk Phone: 0370 462071 (Mobile), +44 (0)1865 843155 From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 9 07:43:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA16736 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 07:43:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abyss.void.net (root@void.net [207.30.81.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA16712 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 07:43:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abyss.void.net (deep.void.net [207.30.81.253]) by abyss.void.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA00515; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 10:39:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960809144312.006b697c@207.30.81.100> X-Sender: dan@207.30.81.100 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 10:43:12 -0400 To: Paul Richards From: Dan Benjamin Subject: Re: MS Frontpage server extensions Cc: "Daniel O'Callaghan" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> > There must be thousands of FreeBSD ISPs out there. What are people doing >> > about supporting FrontPage? FreeBSD is still not a supported OS. >> > Has anyone got the BSD-OS/2.0 version to work under 2.1.5? >> >> I use Frontpage extensions with 2.1.5-RELEASE on a daily basis, and so do >> my users. >> >> Download the one for BSDI 2.x and you're on your way. Believe me, >> FreeBSD *is* a supported OS ... ;-) > >I seem to remember one of the developers mentioning that Apache on FreeBSD >is one of the platforms they have in their development team. I have FreeBSD 2.1.5-RELEASE and Apache 1.1.1 (although anything .9 and up will do). I used the Apache setting (not apache manual-reset). ==================================================== Dan Benjamin dan@void.net The Void / Init http://www.void.net/ George Orwell was an optimist. ==================================================== From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 9 08:18:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA19015 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 08:18:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.tioga.com (root@falcon.tioga.com [205.146.65.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA19009 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 08:18:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tbalfe@localhost) by falcon.tioga.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id LAA02226; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 11:18:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 11:18:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas J Balfe To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: IRC Network Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Some FreeBSD friends and I have formed something we call BSDNet, it's an irc network that we use instead of EFNet after much frustration with it inherent lag and splits. We are looking to expand the network. It is completely free. If you are waiting for your EFNet C/N or you want an replacement for EFNet as we did, simply write and we can issue a C/N to BSDNet. The only restriction is that we don't allow any SysV type servers. That shouldn't be a problem, you're already subscribed to freebsd-isp and know what works and what doesn't. I look forward to hearing from FreeBSD based ISPs and ISPs that enjoy their FreeBSD system and want an irc server connection to a BSD oriented irc network. If you want to try it out to see which server is closest to you, grab the ircii port or package and /server irc.tioga.com, then /join #freebsd, you'll find us there. ======================================================================== Thomas J Balfe tbalfe@tioga.com President http://www.tioga.com/ Tioga Communications, Inc 814-867-4770 ======================================================================== "Humanity has been compared...to a sleeper who handles matches in his sleep and wakes to find himself in flames." - H.G. Wells The World Set Free 1914 From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 9 09:40:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA23669 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 09:40:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA23664 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 09:40:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.mcs.com (root@Mercury.mcs.com [192.160.127.80]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id LAA19019; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 11:40:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mercury.mcs.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.5) id ; Fri, 9 Aug 96 11:40 CDT Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 11:40:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Eli Lazich X-Sender: elazich@Mercury.mcs.com To: "Daniel O'Callaghan" cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MS Frontpage server extensions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have installed the Frontpage extensions onto Apache running on a 2.1.5 box with no problems. Make sure you are running 2.1.5 as I don't believe that 2.1.0 supported BSD/OS binaries. Eli On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Daniel O'Callaghan wrote: > > Hi, > > There must be thousands of FreeBSD ISPs out there. What are people doing > about supporting FrontPage? FreeBSD is still not a supported OS. > Has anyone got the BSD-OS/2.0 version to work under 2.1.5? > > Any other solutions? > > Thanks, > > Danny > From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 9 10:28:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA25641 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 10:28:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gds.de (ns.gds.de [194.77.222.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25624 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 10:28:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.gds.de (pluto.gds.de [194.77.222.13]) by gds.de (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA11179 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 19:29:18 GMT Message-Id: <199608091929.TAA11179@gds.de> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Richard Gresek" Organization: GDS To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 19:28:23 +0000 Subject: apache compilation Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.40) Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to compile apache_1.1.1 and get the following error msg.: mod_auth.o: Undefined symbol `_crypt' referenced from text segment When I comment out the authentication module the compilation and linking finish successfully. I don t want to use the pre-compiled binaries, as I d like to link PHP-module into the httpd. I suppose that I miss some library on my machine. Which is it? Where to get? Richard Gresek +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ : Plus.Net Internet PoP fuer : Oppenheimer Landstr. 55 Frankfurt & Westerwald : 60596 Frankfurt : Tel.: +49 69 61991275 http://www.plusnet.de : Fax : +49 69 610238 +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 9 13:27:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA02502 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 13:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA02468 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 13:27:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from salsa.habaneros.com (salsa.habaneros.com [207.34.140.99]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA00607 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 11:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jalapeno.habaneros.com (jalapeno [207.34.140.98]) by salsa.habaneros.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA02554; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 11:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by jalapeno.habaneros.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BB85E6.28CCBFE0@jalapeno.habaneros.com>; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 11:30:25 -0700 Message-ID: <01BB85E6.28CCBFE0@jalapeno.habaneros.com> From: "Neil C. Jensen" To: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" , "'Richard Gresek'" Subject: RE: apache compilation Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 11:30:23 -0700 Encoding: 44 TEXT Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Did you remember to uncomment the appropriate lines in the Configuration (in the src dir) file for *BSD? They are: # For NetBSD/FreeBSD/BSDI 2.x # -m486 only if you are running on Intel 486/586 AUX_CFLAGS= -m486 # BSDI doesn't need -lcrypt AUX_LIBS= -lcrypt This should work. Cheers, Neil Jensen Habanero Studios Ltd. Vancouver, Canada ---------- From: Richard Gresek[SMTP:rg@plusnet.de] Sent: Friday, August 09, 1996 12:28 PM To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: apache compilation I am trying to compile apache_1.1.1 and get the following error msg.: mod_auth.o: Undefined symbol `_crypt' referenced from text segment When I comment out the authentication module the compilation and linking finish successfully. I don t want to use the pre-compiled binaries, as I d like to link PHP-module into the httpd. I suppose that I miss some library on my machine. Which is it? Where to get? Richard Gresek +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ : Plus.Net Internet PoP fuer : Oppenheimer Landstr. 55 Frankfurt & Westerwald : 60596 Frankfurt : Tel.: +49 69 61991275 http://www.plusnet.de : Fax : +49 69 610238 +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 9 13:27:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA02649 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 13:27:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA02634 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 13:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hp.com (hp.com [15.255.152.4]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA00478 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 11:14:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xsvr2.cup.hp.com by hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA183574367; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 11:12:48 -0700 Received: by xsvr2.cup.hp.com (1.39.111.2/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA014404352; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 11:12:32 -0700 From: "Josef C. Grosch" Message-Id: <9608091112.ZM1438@xsvr2.cup.hp.com> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 11:12:31 -0700 In-Reply-To: "Richard Gresek" "apache compilation" (Aug 9, 7:28pm) References: <199608091929.TAA11179@gds.de> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10apr95) To: "Richard Gresek" Subject: Re: apache compilation Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Aug 9, 7:28pm, Richard Gresek wrote: > Subject: apache compilation > I am trying to compile apache_1.1.1 and get the following error msg.: > > mod_auth.o: Undefined symbol `_crypt' referenced from text segment > > When I comment out the authentication module the compilation and > linking finish successfully. I don t want to use the pre-compiled > binaries, as I d like to link PHP-module into the httpd. > > I suppose that I miss some library on my machine. Which is it? Where > to get? > > Richard Gresek [ SNIP ] >-- End of excerpt from Richard Gresek You need to link in the crypt library, /usr/lib/libcrypt.a or more correctly, /usr/lib/libcrypt.so Modify your Makefile or config file (I can't remember the details of an Apache build) to include -lcrypt when it links Josef -- Josef Grosch, 47LG4 | "Laugh while you can, | My opinions are mine, not jgrosch@cup.hp.com | monkey boy!" | HPs. They have'nt paid for (408) 447-0467 | - John Warfin - | them yet ! :-) From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 9 13:33:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA03452 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 13:33:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zeus.xtalwind.net (h-adjutant.x31.infi.net [206.27.115.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03443 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 13:33:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zeus.xtalwind.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA00894; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 16:32:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 16:32:16 -0400 (EDT) From: jack To: Richard Gresek cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache compilation In-Reply-To: <199608091929.TAA11179@gds.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Richard Gresek wrote: > I am trying to compile apache_1.1.1 and get the following error msg.: > > mod_auth.o: Undefined symbol `_crypt' referenced from text segment > You need to add -lcrypt to the compiler flags line in the make file. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Finger jacko@onyx.xtalwind.net or jack@xtalwind.net http://www.xtalwind.net/~jacko/pubpgp.html #include for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 9 15:30:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA13640 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 15:30:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsd.intrastar.net (BSD.INTRASTAR.NET [206.136.25.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA13629 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 15:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jsuter@localhost) by bsd.intrastar.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA00418; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 17:22:04 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 17:22:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Jacob Suter To: Thomas J Balfe cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IRC Network In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Thomas J Balfe wrote: > Some FreeBSD friends and I have formed something we call BSDNet, it's an > irc network that we use instead of EFNet after much frustration with it > inherent lag and splits. We are looking to expand the network. It is > completely free. Sounds good.. what are your requirements? > If you are waiting for your EFNet C/N or you want an replacement for > EFNet as we did, simply write and we can issue a C/N to BSDNet. The only > restriction is that we don't allow any SysV type servers. Good idea.. SysV would waste the BSD in the name :) > That shouldn't be a problem, you're already subscribed to freebsd-isp and > know what works and what doesn't. I look forward to hearing from FreeBSD > based ISPs and ISPs that enjoy their FreeBSD system and want an irc server > connection to a BSD oriented irc network. Sounds spiffy. Trying to deal with EFnet is a nightmare.. > If you want to try it out to see which server is closest to you, grab the > ircii port or package and /server irc.tioga.com, then /join #freebsd, > you'll find us there. I'm here, and it looks good. I'd probibly try to use my 386DX/40 FreeBSD machine as the server on my 56K network (about 10% used imcoming, 2% outgoing usage right now normally).. Oh, well, I think you are online.... Damn, you went to go watch Wings :P TTYL JS From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 9 16:24:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA17227 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 16:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.its.rpi.edu (mail1.its.rpi.edu [128.113.100.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA17210 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 16:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from async.openix.com (async12.openix.com [206.64.18.12]) by mail1.its.rpi.edu (8.6.9/8.6.4) with SMTP id TAA12901 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 19:24:38 -0400 Message-Id: <199608092324.TAA12901@mail1.its.rpi.edu> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Kenneth J. Dupuis" Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 19:22:02 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: IRC Network Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Some FreeBSD friends and I have formed something we call BSDNet, it's an > > irc network that we use instead of EFNet after much frustration with it > > inherent lag and splits. We are looking to expand the network. It is > > completely free. We might be interested in joining in a few weeks. Our servers are running FreeBSD 2.1.5R. > I'm here, and it looks good. I'd probibly try to use my 386DX/40 FreeBSD > machine as the server on my 56K network (about 10% used imcoming, 2% > outgoing usage right now normally).. Our servers are P100s and above connected directly to the 'Net via ethernet to FDDI to dual T3s. From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 9 16:42:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA18251 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 16:42:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsd.intrastar.net (BSD.INTRASTAR.NET [206.136.25.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA18241 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 16:42:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jsuter@localhost) by bsd.intrastar.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA00529; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 18:34:03 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 18:34:02 -0500 (CDT) From: Jacob Suter To: "Kenneth J. Dupuis" cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IRC Network In-Reply-To: <199608092324.TAA12901@mail1.its.rpi.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Kenneth J. Dupuis wrote: > > > Some FreeBSD friends and I have formed something we call BSDNet, it's an > > > irc network that we use instead of EFNet after much frustration with it > > > inherent lag and splits. We are looking to expand the network. It is > > > completely free. > > We might be interested in joining in a few weeks. Our servers are > running FreeBSD 2.1.5R. 2.1.5... *shudder*... I've installed it 5 times on different machines, and it still can't figure out how to route on my ethernet 8^P... > > I'm here, and it looks good. I'd probibly try to use my 386DX/40 FreeBSD > > machine as the server on my 56K network (about 10% used imcoming, 2% > > outgoing usage right now normally).. > > Our servers are P100s and above connected directly to the 'Net via ethernet to > FDDI to dual T3s. Phat.. I should be T1 in a couple weeks.. I am expanding too fast for my own good... "its all in the pricing" JS From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 9 17:26:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA20598 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 17:26:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA20593 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 17:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA13571; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 10:25:55 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 10:25:54 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Richard Gresek cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache compilation In-Reply-To: <199608091929.TAA11179@gds.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Richard Gresek wrote: > I am trying to compile apache_1.1.1 and get the following error msg.: > > mod_auth.o: Undefined symbol `_crypt' referenced from text segment > > When I comment out the authentication module the compilation and > linking finish successfully. I don t want to use the pre-compiled > binaries, as I d like to link PHP-module into the httpd. > > I suppose that I miss some library on my machine. Which is it? Where > to get? Just add -lcrypt to the makefile. BTW, what is PHP? Danny From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 9 17:27:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA20671 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 17:27:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from i-gw.dalsys.com (i-gw.dalsys.com [207.42.153.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA20640 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 17:27:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by i-gw.dalsys.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id TAA26985 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 19:27:01 -0500 Received: from dev.dsc.dalsys.com(199.170.161.3) by i-gw.dalsys.com via smap (V1.3) id sma026983; Fri Aug 9 19:26:58 1996 Received: by dev.dsc.dalsys.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/8.6.12) id AA187470; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 19:36:21 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 19:36:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Richard Stanford X-Sender: richards@dev.dsc.dalsys.com To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Adaptec 2940UW / Barracuda problems? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sorry to bug the list with a compatability question, but: My hardware vendor recently told me that the Adaptec 2940UW cards I was planning on putting in my new FreeBSD servers would not work properly with my ST15150N Barracudas. Have any of y'all had any experience with this combination? Also, from ISP experience, are any of you using the faster 4GB Barracudas? Are they worth it? Thanks for the information, folks. Oh, I was also planning on using ST32155 2GB Hawks for the system disks - anyone had any problems with these? -Richard "Finally, time for some well-designed servers" Stanford From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 9 17:37:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA21341 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 17:37:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from glycerine.mulberry.com (jasonw@glycerine.mulberry.com [204.187.141.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA21336 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 17:37:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by glycerine.mulberry.com id AA11786 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org); Fri, 9 Aug 1996 20:40:32 -0400 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 20:40:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Jason Wilson To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: INN Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This may be better in an INN specific list however I've seen a few posts regarding INN and news in general here so I'm posting here. I'm running FBSD 2.1.0 on a P100 w/ 24MB (soon to be 64), NCR 810 SCSI, 2 SCSI drives, 2 IDE drives and INN from the ports collection. After starting INN everything runs smoothly; feeds come in/go out fine, nnrp clients connect and read/post fine etc etc. After running for about 15-30 minutes everything stops. All incoming and outgoing nntp feeds close, nnrp clients hang, ctlinnd hangs, and when I telnet to the nntp port it times out with dest unreachable. From a ps listing everything looks normal. Everything was working fine until I reinstalled FBSD a few days ago. All configuration is the same as before the reinstall. I've also recompiled with MMAP turned off without any difference. It seems slow though even in the first 15-30 minutes it runs. Any ideas? Thanks, Jason From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 9 18:03:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA22302 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 18:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nevis.oss.uswest.net (nevis.oss.uswest.net [204.147.85.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA22293 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 18:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from greg@localhost) by nevis.oss.uswest.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA28871; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 20:02:30 -0500 From: "Greg Rowe" Message-Id: <9608092002.ZM28869@nevis.oss.uswest.net> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 20:02:29 -0500 In-Reply-To: Richard Stanford "Adaptec 2940UW / Barracuda problems?" (Aug 9, 7:36pm) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10oct95) To: Richard Stanford , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940UW / Barracuda problems? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm running Adaptec 2940UW controllers with ST32550W's and ST15150W's in all my servers and workstations. No problems as long as you keep them cool. On Aug 9, 7:36pm, Richard Stanford wrote: > Subject: Adaptec 2940UW / Barracuda problems? > Sorry to bug the list with a compatability question, but: > > My hardware vendor recently told me that the Adaptec 2940UW cards > I was planning on putting in my new FreeBSD servers would not work > properly with my ST15150N Barracudas. Have any of y'all had any > experience with this combination? > > Also, from ISP experience, are any of you using the faster 4GB > Barracudas? Are they worth it? > > Thanks for the information, folks. Oh, I was also planning on > using ST32155 2GB Hawks for the system disks - anyone had any > problems with these? > > -Richard "Finally, time for some well-designed servers" Stanford >-- End of excerpt from Richard Stanford -- Greg Rowe | U S West - Interact Services | INTERNET greg@uswest.net 111 Washington Ave. South | Fax: (612) 672-8537 Minneapolis, MN USA 55401 | Voice: (612) 672-8535 Never trust an operating system you don't have source for.... From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 9 20:37:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA29299 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 20:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scooter.quickweb.com (scooter.quickweb.com [199.212.134.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA29291 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 20:37:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (mark@localhost) by scooter.quickweb.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA21281; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 23:44:19 -0400 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 23:44:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Mayo To: "Daniel O'Callaghan" cc: Richard Gresek , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache compilation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 10 Aug 1996, Daniel O'Callaghan wrote: > > > On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Richard Gresek wrote: > > > I am trying to compile apache_1.1.1 and get the following error msg.: > > Just add -lcrypt to the makefile. BTW, what is PHP? > > Danny PHP is acutally PHP/FI -- it's a super cool "ssi like" tool for making dynamic pages. Very cool stuff. It works by compiling in an apache module, and configuring a mime-type for .phtml files. All .phtml files are parsed by the PHP engine. Essentially, it's a super set of html looking commands that get parsed and replaced. You can do scripting very easily, file uploads, guestbooks, etc, etc... It's worth checking out, especially if you're already into sever-side-includes. Go to www.vex.net/php for lots of info! -mark ------------------------------------------- | Mark Mayo mark@quickweb.com | | C-Soft www.quickweb.com | ------------------------------------------- "To iterate is human, to recurse divine." - L. Peter Deutsch From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Aug 10 05:27:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA15150 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 05:27:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dada.kaizen.net (dada.kaizen.net [206.27.236.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA15144 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 05:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (mnewell@localhost) by dada.kaizen.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA05697; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 08:25:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: dada.kaizen.net: mnewell owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 08:25:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Newell To: Global Internet Shopping Mall cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USR Not reset In-Reply-To: <199608062107.QAA08587@isot.isot.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Global Internet Shopping Mall wrote: > Occasionally, the Hays would not answer the line when ringing, I had to > power recycle it to make it work again. The Sportster, after user hangs up, > it would reset, TR would stay off. Anyone experienced same problem a s I? I've had 2 Hayes Accura V.fc [I bought them before V.34...] that have worked fine for me. What I do is set the units to reset on DTR loss [I think it's &D3] and s0=1 to answer on first ring. I've not yet had to power cycle to recover. Note that to answer the Hayes has to have BOTH DTR up _and_ S0=n where n>0. Do you see the "AA" light on solid before calls, then blink during the answer phase? One problem I *DID* have was pppd not going away on hangup. To fix that I had to take out the proxyarp statement in the config. Othern' that, works great, less filling... I'd send the full config but unfortunately the one I've still got connected is in use. :-( Mike From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Aug 10 12:50:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA16714 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 12:50:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix1.ism.com.br (root@unix1.ism.com.br [200.255.211.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA16703 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 12:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clpc1.compuland.com.br (clpc1.compuland.com.br [200.255.96.22]) by unix1.ism.com.br (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id QAA25867 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 16:49:49 -0300 Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 16:49:49 -0300 Message-Id: <199608101949.QAA25867@unix1.ism.com.br> X-Sender: compland@ism.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: compland@ism.com.br (Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello: A little off-topic, but... Is it possible to limit the maximum size of a message a user can receive (and send), (beside using quotas in his home directory). I have some users that like to exchange 6 mb files with his friends by e-mail ! I'm using Sendmail8.7.5 in a FreeBSD2.1R. I checked out the O'Relly Sendmail's book but not luck. Any ideas ? Thanks a lot! Helio. From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Aug 10 14:27:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA20939 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 14:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [198.145.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA20931 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 14:27:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA11710; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 14:26:23 -0700 From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199608102126.OAA11710@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: your mail To: compland@ism.com.br (Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 14:26:22 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199608101949.QAA25867@unix1.ism.com.br> from "Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica" at "Aug 10, 96 04:49:49 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hello: > > A little off-topic, but... Is it possible to limit the maximum size > of a message a user can receive (and send), (beside using quotas in his home > directory). I have some users that like to exchange 6 mb files with his > friends by e-mail ! > I'm using Sendmail8.7.5 in a FreeBSD2.1R. I checked out the O'Relly > Sendmail's book but not luck. Any ideas ? >From the 8.6.12.1 release notes I found this section of changes that does what you want (this change occured at 8.6.6, which is after the Sendmail book was written.) CONFIG: Allow declaration of SMTP_MAILER_MAX, FAX_MAILER_MAX, and USENET_MAILER_MAX to tweak the maximum message size for various mailers. You'll need to build a sendmail configuration (.m4) file to take advantage of this... see sendmail/cf/README on how to do this... -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Aug 10 15:53:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA00911 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 15:53:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.sbq.org.br (sbq.sbq.org.br [143.108.1.102]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA00906 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 15:52:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sbqadm@localhost) by www.sbq.org.br (8.6.12/FreeBSD2.1/8.6.12/SBQ) id TAA03663; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 19:46:42 GMT From: "Sociedade Brasileira de Quimica/Admin" Message-Id: <199608101946.TAA03663@www.sbq.org.br> Subject: Re: your mail To: rgrimes@GndRsh.aac.dev.com (Rodney W. Grimes) Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 19:46:41 +0000 () Cc: compland@ism.com.br, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199608102126.OAA11710@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at Aug 10, 96 02:26:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello The 8.7.5 sendmail.cf (in 2.1.5) has the following line: # maximum message size #O MaxMessageSize=1000000 Pedro > > > Hello: > > > > A little off-topic, but... Is it possible to limit the maximum size > > of a message a user can receive (and send), (beside using quotas in his home > > directory). I have some users that like to exchange 6 mb files with his > > friends by e-mail ! > > I'm using Sendmail8.7.5 in a FreeBSD2.1R. I checked out the O'Relly > > Sendmail's book but not luck. Any ideas ? > > >From the 8.6.12.1 release notes I found this section of changes that > does what you want (this change occured at 8.6.6, which is after > the Sendmail book was written.) > > CONFIG: Allow declaration of SMTP_MAILER_MAX, FAX_MAILER_MAX, > and USENET_MAILER_MAX to tweak the maximum message > size for various mailers. > > You'll need to build a sendmail configuration (.m4) file to take > advantage of this... see sendmail/cf/README on how to do this... > > > > -- > Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com > Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD > From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Aug 10 19:08:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA00911 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 15:53:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www.sbq.org.br (sbq.sbq.org.br [143.108.1.102]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA00906 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 15:52:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sbqadm@localhost) by www.sbq.org.br (8.6.12/FreeBSD2.1/8.6.12/SBQ) id TAA03663; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 19:46:42 GMT From: "Sociedade Brasileira de Quimica/Admin" Message-Id: <199608101946.TAA03663@www.sbq.org.br> Subject: Re: your mail To: rgrimes@GndRsh.aac.dev.com (Rodney W. Grimes) Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 19:46:41 +0000 () Cc: compland@ism.com.br, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199608102126.OAA11710@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at Aug 10, 96 02:26:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello The 8.7.5 sendmail.cf (in 2.1.5) has the following line: # maximum message size #O MaxMessageSize=1000000 Pedro > > > Hello: > > > > A little off-topic, but... Is it possible to limit the maximum size > > of a message a user can receive (and send), (beside using quotas in his home > > directory). I have some users that like to exchange 6 mb files with his > > friends by e-mail ! > > I'm using Sendmail8.7.5 in a FreeBSD2.1R. I checked out the O'Relly > > Sendmail's book but not luck. Any ideas ? > > >From the 8.6.12.1 release notes I found this section of changes that > does what you want (this change occured at 8.6.6, which is after > the Sendmail book was written.) > > CONFIG: Allow declaration of SMTP_MAILER_MAX, FAX_MAILER_MAX, > and USENET_MAILER_MAX to tweak the maximum message > size for various mailers. > > You'll need to build a sendmail configuration (.m4) file to take > advantage of this... see sendmail/cf/README on how to do this... > > > > -- > Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com > Accurate Automation Company Reliable computers for FreeBSD > From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Aug 10 19:39:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-isp Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA02353 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 19:39:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (jeff@[205.199.2.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA02345 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 19:39:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jeff@localhost) by mercury.jorsm.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) id VAA13472; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 21:42:36 -0500 Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 21:42:36 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jeff.Lynch-JORSM.Internet" To: Mike Newell cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: watchdog timer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can anyone tell me where to get a cheap simple watchdog timer. I know I can get an ET card with this as on option, but I also want to put these in every mission critical machine as an added safety precaution. ========================================================================= Jeffrey A. Lynch, President JORSM Internet email: jeff@jorsm.com Northwest Indiana's Full-Service Provider Voice: (219)322-2180 927 Sheffield Avenue, Dyer, IN 46311 Autoresponse: info@jorsm.com http://www.jorsm.com