From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 02:49:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA17192 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 02:49:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ax433.mclink.it (ax433.mclink.it [192.106.166.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA17184 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 02:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tirm47.vol.it by ax433.mclink.it id aa04674; 26 May 96 11:49 CEST Message-ID: <31A82987.41C67EA6@mclink.it> Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 11:51:03 +0200 From: Marco Masotti X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org CC: mc7953@mclink.it Subject: RE: atapi-cdrom as master Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've never been able to utilize my ATAPI Cdrom drive with 2.1R or stable with a fairly old hardware I own. However, just applying the patch below copied, I've at last got my CD unit working. I believe also that the patch is really a a sort of "cut"... but in my case it did work well. With the recurring problems in handling ATAPI drives, I considered patching the wd.c code, despite I've seen no reply (unless I missed some message around) to the Werner article, in the positive or negative. Since I'm somewhat believing that such a patch is temporary palliative to a real problem, can someone state what negative impact could this fix lead to? My hardware is: SiS 486 P3 Green PC (bios 24/12/1994), 24Mram, Intel 486 Overdrive DX4 IDE controller P2630VL ATAPI Mtsumi FX400 Cd drive The primary controller has two hard disks installed The secondary one has only the CD drive as master. Regards, Marco > > From: Werner Griessl > Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 10:19:13 +0000 () > Subject: atapi-cdrom as master > > Last week I got my atapi-cdrom-drive and had some problems with > my FreesBSD-2.1R . > The kernel detected the drive only as slave on the IDE-port. > Unfortunately with this configuration (disk master, cdrom slave) > the disk transfer slows down by a factor of 2. > > So I had a look into the source of wd.c and voila, a few changes to > wd.c made the cdrom-drive working on the second IDE-port as master drive ! > > Here is the patchfile (hopefully not only working for me) : > > - ---------- cut here and copy to wd.c.patch ----------------------------- > *** wd.c.ori Fri May 3 08:16:31 1996 > - --- wd.c Fri May 3 08:44:31 1996 > *************** > *** 480,500 **** > } else { > free(du, M_TEMP); > wddrives[lunit] = NULL; > ! } > ! } > #ifdef ATAPI > ! /* > ! * Probe all free IDE units, searching for ATAPI drives. > ! */ > ! for (unit=0; unit<2; ++unit) { > ! for (lunit=0; lunit ! if (wddrives[lunit]->dk_ctrlr == dvp->id_unit && > ! wddrives[lunit]->dk_unit == unit) > ! goto next; > atapi_attach (dvp->id_unit, unit, dvp->id_iobase, > &kdc_wdc[dvp->id_unit]); > - - next: } > #endif > /* > * Discard any interrupts generated by wdgetctlr(). wdflushirq() > * doesn't work now because the ambient ipl is too high. > - --- 480,496 ---- > } else { > free(du, M_TEMP); > wddrives[lunit] = NULL; > ! > ! /* included werner@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (29.4.1996) */ > #ifdef ATAPI > ! /* no disk !, search for ATAPI drive */ > atapi_attach (dvp->id_unit, unit, dvp->id_iobase, > &kdc_wdc[dvp->id_unit]); > #endif > + > + } > + } > + > /* > * Discard any interrupts generated by wdgetctlr(). wdflushirq() > * doesn't work now because the ambient ipl is too high. > - ----- then do a "patch < wd.c.patch" and recompile the kernel ----------- > > This should also work in STABLE (the wd.c is the same as in Release) > > Werner > > ------------------------------ > > End of questions-digest V1 #805 > ******************************* From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 03:41:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA18690 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 03:41:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mistery.mcafee.com (jimd@mistery.mcafee.com [192.187.128.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA18685 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 03:41:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jimd@localhost) by mistery.mcafee.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id DAA16599 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 26 May 1996 03:57:57 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199605261057.DAA16599@mistery.mcafee.com> Subject: BIND 4.9.3 and Round Robin DNS support To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Questions) Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 03:57:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I know that named is supplied in the base 2.1 package (as released on Walnut Creek's CD). However I need to support DNS round robin load balancing (which is one of the conf/options in 4.9.3. What version is in FreeBSD 2.1? Does it support "round robin"? Do I have to rebuild it from the FreeBSD sources? I grabbed BIND-4.9.3-REL from ftp://ftp.vix.com/ and tried to build it -- but I've run into a brick wall (the brick may be my head in this case). I'm stuck in the ./BSD/README file where it says: .To integrate BIND into a 4.4BSD or 4.4BSD-Lite system, you need to perform the .following steps. You might be doing this if you are maintaining one of the .BNR2- or 4.4L-based BSD's (BSD/OS, FreeBSD, NetBSD), or if you are running .4.4BSD and you want to get the newest BIND cleanly integrated into it. . .1. Apply the diffs in Diffs/lib-libc-net to your lib/libc/net tree, and . apply the diffs in Diffs/include(*) to your include tree. These are roughly . the changes that will appear in 4.4BSD-Lite++ so you're on the right track. How do I apply these diffs? I built this for my old SunOS 4.1.4 machine (which is currently our primary DNS server). However we want to have the new FreeBSD/PC running this soon (for one thing the Sun 4/100 is old -- can't be expanded with any more RAM and doesn't have any reliable source of replacement parts; for another we gots some parity errors on one of the SIMMS -- fixed by cleaning the contacts -- but worrisome enough to get my boss to let me migrate these functions off of the old box) Thanks. (notes in README's like the one above always make me feel like a fool -- O.K. I have diffs, I guess I run 'patch' I glance in Diffs/lib-libc-net -- it's a shar -- I run the shar it leaves a file named 'diffs' and another named 'nsap-addr.c' running 'patch < Diffs/diffs' simply asks which file I want to patch ... I *hate* it when README files and INSTALL files do that -- I would R the FM and even the flippin' sources -- the comments in the various Diffs files were no help either). So, what am I missing? Do I need to do any of this? Jim Dennis, System Administrator, McAfee Associates From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 07:08:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA24950 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 07:08:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from storm.typhoon.co.jp (storm.typhoon.co.jp [202.33.21.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA24941 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 07:08:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from typhoon.typhoon.co.jp (typhoon.typhoon.co.jp [202.33.21.39]) by storm.typhoon.co.jp (8.7.5/8.7.3/1.1) with ESMTP id XAA05918 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 23:08:28 +0900 (JST) Received: (from nfung@localhost) by typhoon.typhoon.co.jp (8.7.5/8.7.3/1.2) id XAA05510; Sun, 26 May 1996 23:08:16 +0900 (JST) Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 23:08:16 +0900 (JST) From: Nelson Fung To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Help on Aptiva. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello Fellow FreeBSD-er! I have been a satisfied user FreeBSD 2.0.5 (on a Compaq DX4-100). Today, I tried to install it on an Aptiva 770 (P133, 32MB, 2.5GB HDD) and the install-disk failed to recognize the CD-ROM drive. When I tried to "attach matcd0" in the UserConfig, the message: matcd0: get_stat: After reading status byte, bus didn't go idle ff0 ffffffff keeps repeating. The CD-ROM drive came with the IBM and it says it's an "IBM CD-ROM". Is there any hope in getting FreeBSD (v2.0.5) to recognize this "IBM CD-ROM?" ANY help is appreciated and please kindly respond by email as I am not on the freebsd mailing list. Many Thanks. Regards, Nelson From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 08:06:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA28580 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 08:06:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-1.mail.sonnet.co.uk (root@[195.224.0.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA28575 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 08:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from darkstar.sonnet.co.uk (darkstar.sonnet.co.uk [193.82.84.32]) by relay-1.mail.sonnet.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA08683 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 15:54:18 +0100 Message-Id: <199605261454.PAA08683@relay-1.mail.sonnet.co.uk> X-Sender: steve@193.82.84.32 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 16:07:41 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org From: steve@darkstar.sonnet.co.uk (Steve Seymour) Subject: error mounting /dev/cd0a on /cdrom Invalid arument (22) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am setting up FreeBSD 2.1 for the first time after using Linux for a while. I created a boot floppy, going through all the setup menu's quite happily choosing my configuration and then just as the ROOT distribution is loaded, I am presented with box that says : Message Error mounting /dev/cd0a on /cdrom: Invalid argument (22) After this I am returned to the install menu. My system has an IDE hard drive, an Adaptec 1542 SCSI card and a Toshiba quad speed CDROM and a 3Com 3c509 Net card The install process finds both the SCSI card and the CD Drive but I am still presented with that error. Can anybody help????? Steve Seymour \\|// (o o) |-----------------------------oOOo~(_)~oOOo---------------------------| | Steve Seymour EMail : steve@darkstar.sonnet.co.uk | | Voicemail : +44 (0) 881-830301 | | --------------------------------------------------------------------| | Designer and Webmaster of the official UK | | Duke of Edinburgh's Award World Wide Web Site | | ------------------------------------------------------------------- | | Official Award Web Site : http://www.sonnet.co.uk/dea/ | | --------------------------------------------------------------------| From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 08:54:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA01920 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 08:54:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spider.net.hk (root@spider.net.hk [202.73.0.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA01915 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 08:54:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from geoffrey.spider.net.hk (ppp8.spider.net.hk [202.73.0.137]) by spider.net.hk (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id XAA23890 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 23:49:06 +0800 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960526155448.0067e6b8@spider.net.hk> X-Sender: geoffrey@spider.net.hk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 23:54:48 +0800 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Geoffrey Ng Subject: ATI Mach 64 and TEAC 6x CDROM using FreeBSD960501-SNAP Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello FreeBSD Development Team, I am using ATI Mach 64 and TEAC 6x CDROM(ATAPI) in my Pentium machine, I have experienced the strange screen at bootup process and not recognizable CDROM problems when I using the 2.1 release. All problems solved and machine works fine when I have changed to the new FreeBSD kernel FreeBSD960501-SNAP.. Thanks for all FreeBSD developers! Best regards, Geoffrey Ng From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 10:35:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA05852 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 10:35:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA05847 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 10:35:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uNjit-000QYvC; Sun, 26 May 96 19:35 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id TAA00408; Sun, 26 May 1996 19:33:59 +0200 Message-Id: <199605261733.TAA00408@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: I had a Kernel panic and was wondering if anyone could figure out y To: bubba@mymachine.com (Just call me Bubba) Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 19:33:59 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Just call me Bubba" at May 24, 96 11:59:36 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Just call me Bubba writes: > > I am not shure what could cause this, but heres what it said. > > fatal trap 12 page fault while in kernel mode > fault virtual address 0x0 > fault code =supervisor read, page not present > instruction pointer 0x8:0xf01a5b26 > stack pointer 0x10:0xefbffe34 > frame pointer 0x10:0xefbffe80 > code segment base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > DPL 0, pres 1, def 32 1, gran 1 > processor flags interrupt enabled, resume IOPL=0 > current process 321 (pkg_add) > interrupt mask ufs > panic page fault I'm afraid that the system's not sure either. Most panic messages the result of some test made by the kernel. It checks something and finds it incorrect. In such cases, it prints out a more or less intelligible message about what has gone wrong. In this case, the kernel has surprised itself. This panic message basically says "something has gone seriously wrong. The kernel has attempted to access non-existent memory". The only real way to analyze this problem is to look at a panic dump. Unfortunately, you probably don't have one. Look at pages 80 and 81 of "Installing and Running FreeBSD" for the full details, but here's an overview: 1. Uncomment the line in /etc/sysconfig saying dumpdev /dev/wd0s1b If you have SCSI disks, it'll be /dev/sd0s1b. This is your swap partition, and that's where the kernel writes its dump after a panic. 2. Create the directory /var/crash. This is where the system startup routines write the dump after the system has restarted. You can find details of how to analyze a dump in the on-line handbook. In this particular case, it probably won't help much, but if you post a stack trace, it might give somebody an idea. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 11:42:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA08912 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 11:42:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA08904 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 11:42:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de) by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V5.0-4 #13110) id <01I56B202YJ40004JQ@mail.rwth-aachen.de> for freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org; Sun, 26 May 1996 20:42:13 +0100 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA07573 for freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com; Sun, 26 May 1996 20:47:49 +0200 Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 20:47:49 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Subject: SMC Ultra EZ setup To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Message-id: <199605261847.UAA07573@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there a way to program a SMC Ultra (16 bit ethernet card) under FreeBSD (EZ setup) without having to boot DOS and run that d*** utility which is never at hand anyway. Someone in the NetBSD camp wrote such an utility, I believe (cgd?) I'm not sure but it seems that my card got programmed for AUI rather than thin wire (though I could swear I hadn't programmed it myself this way. --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 12:05:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA10113 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 12:05:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA10108 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 12:05:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA01202 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 14:05:52 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu: jfieber owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 14:05:51 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber X-Sender: jfieber@Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: xterm never sleeps... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just `upgraded' from XFree86 3.1.2 to 3.1.2E. Now `idle' xterm process sit chewing up cpu time. A couple xterms will keep the load average around 1 on an otherwise completely idle system. I'm running the May 1st FreeBSD-2.2 snapshot. Has anyone else noticed this? -john == jfieber@indiana.edu =========================================== == http://fallout.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber ================ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 12:38:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA11119 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 12:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from newton.ccs.tuns.ca (daemon@newton.ccs.tuns.ca [134.190.1.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA11110 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 12:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199605261938.MAA11110@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: from ip5-41.ccs.tuns.ca by newton.ccs.tuns.ca with SMTP (1.37.109.6/15.6) id AA27025; Sun, 26 May 96 16:38:31 -0300 Date: Sun, 26 May 96 16:38:31 -0300 X-Sender: hey@newton.ccs.tuns.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: hey@tuns.ca (Yingjun (Ian) He) Subject: Help Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have been running FreeBSD 2.0 on my pentium system for 2 years. Today, I cannot boot the system. The erro messages are: /dev/rsd0a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY Automatic file system chek failed ... help! ... ... ncr0 targ 0?: ERROR (80:1:0) (e0/e0) @ (18b77c:860b0000) ncr0: restart (fatal error). ncr0 targ 0: COMMAND FAILED (9 ff ff) @f019ce60. device bad Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - Rebooting ... That's all I have on my screen and the system halt. When I tried to reset the system again, I got the same problem. During the bootting of the system, I have no chance to interrupt it to do anything. Please advice me what should I do in order to access the hadr disk to get all my files out if the system have to reinstalled. Thank you! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ian Y.J. He ---> Home Page: http://www.tuns.ca/~hey ************* ---> Email: hey@tuns.ca ---> Phone: (902)420-7975 ---> Fax : (902)423-0363 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Centre for Marine Vessel Design and Research --- Department of Mechanical Engineering - Technical University of Nova Scotia - Halifax, Nova Scotia --- Canada B3J 2X4 ================================================================ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 12:43:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA11402 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 12:43:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jolt.eng.umd.edu (jolt.eng.umd.edu [129.2.102.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA11387 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 12:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from maryann.eng.umd.edu (maryann.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.209]) by jolt.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA23082; Sun, 26 May 1996 15:43:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by maryann.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA18807; Sun, 26 May 1996 15:43:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 15:43:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@maryann.eng.umd.edu To: John Fieber cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xterm never sleeps... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 26 May 1996, John Fieber wrote: > I just `upgraded' from XFree86 3.1.2 to 3.1.2E. Now `idle' xterm > process sit chewing up cpu time. A couple xterms will keep the > load average around 1 on an otherwise completely idle system. > > I'm running the May 1st FreeBSD-2.2 snapshot. Has anyone else > noticed this? Not yet ... ... but I'd sure like to know where you picked up the 3.1.2E binaries from... > > -john > > == jfieber@indiana.edu =========================================== > == http://fallout.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber ================ > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 12:57:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA12198 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 12:57:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hutcs.cs.hut.fi (apl@hutcs.cs.hut.fi [130.233.192.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA12188 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 12:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (apl@localhost) by hutcs.cs.hut.fi (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA20987 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 22:57:44 +0300 (EET DST) Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 22:57:43 +0300 (EET DST) From: Antti-Pekka Liedes X-Sender: apl@hutcs To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: objective-C runtime system of gcc 2.7.2 doesn't work on FreeBSD? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I already posted about this to comp.lang.objective-c, but as this is probably an OS related problem, I decided to ask about it in here too. The objective-C runtime system of gcc 2.7.2 produces a floating point exception in sendmsg.c line 210 (__builtin_return). This doesn't happen with gcc 2.6.3, only with 2.7.2, on both FreeBSD 2.1.0R and 2.2 960501 snapshot. I know there is a similar problem with gcc 2.7.2 on Linux. It is fixed there by either linking with -lieee or changing libc to a newer version. But what could be a solution on FreeBSD? Antti-Pekka Liedes * Astaroth@IRC * In two hells, there's JMT 7 A 131 * apl@cs.hut.fi * one hell too many 02150 ESPOO * apl@apocalypse.tky.hut.fi * - Lucifer (in God's Army) From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 13:01:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA12425 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 13:01:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca (root@cicerone.uunet.ca [142.77.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA12416 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 13:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from why.whine.com ([205.150.249.1]) by mail.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <115672-24747>; Sun, 26 May 1996 16:00:46 -0400 Received: from why (andrew@why [205.150.249.1]) by why.whine.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA00761; Sun, 26 May 1996 16:00:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 16:00:38 -0400 From: Andrew Herdman X-Sender: andrew@why To: John Fieber cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xterm never sleeps... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 26 May 1996, John Fieber wrote: > I just `upgraded' from XFree86 3.1.2 to 3.1.2E. Now `idle' xterm > process sit chewing up cpu time. A couple xterms will keep the > load average around 1 on an otherwise completely idle system. > > I'm running the May 1st FreeBSD-2.2 snapshot. Has anyone else > noticed this? I have noticed that with the X312E release (Ma64 sever) that the load average runs very very high compared to the 3.1.2D. I never noticed what it was but xterms seem plausible as the load is small when the machine is not running an xterm. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 13:14:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA13101 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 13:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA13093 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 13:14:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA01391; Sun, 26 May 1996 15:14:23 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu: jfieber owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 15:14:22 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber X-Sender: jfieber@Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu Reply-To: John Fieber To: Chuck Robey cc: questions@freebsd.org, andrew@why.whine.com Subject: Re: xterm never sleeps... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 26 May 1996, Chuck Robey wrote: > Not yet ... > ... but I'd sure like to know where you picked up the 3.1.2E > binaries from... ftp.xfree86.org I just pulled the xterm binary out of the D release and it does *not* suck cpu cycles so this bug was introduced in the E release. I'll check up on the bug reporting procedures. The release notes for E mention: o POSIX termios support has been added for xterm on most BSD systems. This removes the need for the BSD kernel to built with the COMPAT_43 option. There are problems with this on FreeBSD 2.0.5 and earlier, so it isn't used in that case. which may be related. -john == jfieber@indiana.edu =========================================== == http://fallout.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber ================ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 13:20:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA13697 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 13:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jolt.eng.umd.edu (jolt.eng.umd.edu [129.2.102.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA13687 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 13:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from maryann.eng.umd.edu (maryann.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.209]) by jolt.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA23381; Sun, 26 May 1996 16:20:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by maryann.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA20127; Sun, 26 May 1996 16:20:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 16:20:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@maryann.eng.umd.edu To: John Fieber cc: questions@freebsd.org, andrew@why.whine.com Subject: Re: xterm never sleeps... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 26 May 1996, John Fieber wrote: > On Sun, 26 May 1996, Chuck Robey wrote: > > > Not yet ... > > ... but I'd sure like to know where you picked up the 3.1.2E > > binaries from... > > ftp.xfree86.org Thanks. I tried www.xfree86.org, but all the links to the 3.1.2E stuff are broken. > > I just pulled the xterm binary out of the D release and it does > *not* suck cpu cycles so this bug was introduced in the E > release. I'll check up on the bug reporting procedures. > > The release notes for E mention: > > o POSIX termios support has been added for xterm on most BSD > systems. This removes the need for the BSD kernel to > built with the COMPAT_43 option. There are problems with this > on FreeBSD 2.0.5 and earlier, so it isn't used in that case. > > which may be related. > > -john > > == jfieber@indiana.edu =========================================== > == http://fallout.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber ================ > > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 13:39:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA15233 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 13:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zip0.zipnet.net (root@zip0.zipnet.net [199.232.240.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA15226 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 13:39:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (pitlord@localhost) by zip0.zipnet.net (8.7.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA03322 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 16:39:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 16:39:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric Ogren To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: installing question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sorry to bother you guys, but I asked in the newsgroups, and nobody's replied yet, so.. I'm trying to install FreeBSD 2.2-960501-SNAP over PPP at 14.4. I can get everything set up correctly, DNS and all, login to the ftp site, get some of the root image. I see a bunch of filenames scroll by- the last one is /stand/ls. After that, FreeBSD appears to lock up, and the modem hangs up. I've also asked my ISP to check their logs to determine what happened, but do you have any ideas? Thanks, Eric Ogren From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 13:39:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA15268 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 13:39:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA15262 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 13:39:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA01481 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 15:39:28 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu: jfieber owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 15:39:28 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber X-Sender: jfieber@Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: 486dx 33 to 486dx4 100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In pondering ways to extend the life of my trusty old 486 box, I've been pondering replacing my 486dx 33 with a 486dx4 100. I was curious if anyone else has made that sort of switch and documented "real world" performance increases. These cpus are less than $100 now so I'm pretty tempted. Other pieces of the system are an Orchid Fahrenheit video card on a VLbus, An adaptec 1542C for disk, tape, cdrom, and 32 megabytes of RAM. -john == jfieber@indiana.edu =========================================== == http://fallout.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber ================ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 14:21:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA18546 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 14:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.aros.net (mailhub.aros.net [205.164.111.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA18536 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 14:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from terra.aros.net (terra.aros.net [205.164.111.10]) by mailhub.aros.net (8.7.5/Unknown) with ESMTP id PAA18374; Sun, 26 May 1996 15:50:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from angio@localhost) by terra.aros.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) id PAA06782; Sun, 26 May 1996 15:21:35 -0600 From: Dave Andersen Message-Id: <199605262121.PAA06782@terra.aros.net> Subject: Re: xterm never sleeps... To: chuckr@Glue.umd.edu (Chuck Robey) Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 15:21:34 -0600 (MDT) Cc: jfieber@indiana.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Chuck Robey" at May 26, 96 03:43:36 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 PGP2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ftp.xfree86.org _Dave Andersen Lo and behold, Chuck Robey once said: > > On Sun, 26 May 1996, John Fieber wrote: > > > I just `upgraded' from XFree86 3.1.2 to 3.1.2E. Now `idle' xterm > > process sit chewing up cpu time. A couple xterms will keep the > > load average around 1 on an otherwise completely idle system. > > > > I'm running the May 1st FreeBSD-2.2 snapshot. Has anyone else > > noticed this? > > Not yet ... > ... but I'd sure like to know where you picked up the 3.1.2E > binaries from... > > > > > -john > > > > == jfieber@indiana.edu =========================================== > > == http://fallout.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber ================ > > > > > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- > Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data > chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. > 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | > Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD > (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- > -- angio@aros.net Complete virtual hosting and business-oriented system administration Internet services. (WWW, FTP, email) http://www.aros.net/ http://www.aros.net/about/virtual "There are only two industries that refer to thier customers as 'users'." From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 14:38:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA19789 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 14:38:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.aros.net (mailhub.aros.net [205.164.111.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA19768 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 14:38:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from terra.aros.net (terra.aros.net [205.164.111.10]) by mailhub.aros.net (8.7.5/Unknown) with ESMTP id QAA18425; Sun, 26 May 1996 16:07:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from angio@localhost) by terra.aros.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) id PAA07645; Sun, 26 May 1996 15:38:35 -0600 From: Dave Andersen Message-Id: <199605262138.PAA07645@terra.aros.net> Subject: Re: xterm never sleeps... To: andrew@why.whine.com (Andrew Herdman) Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 15:38:35 -0600 (MDT) Cc: jfieber@indiana.edu, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Andrew Herdman" at May 26, 96 04:00:38 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 PGP2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've noticed the same on one of my systems. I can't verify it right now, unfortunatly, because I can't get the Ma64 server to work properly under -stable. :) But the load had increased to ~1.00 on a regular basis when running X, compared to about .3 under 312D. Btw, anyone else have any insights about why Ma64 would crash under -stable? :) -Dave Andersen Lo and behold, Andrew Herdman once said: > > On Sun, 26 May 1996, John Fieber wrote: > > > I just `upgraded' from XFree86 3.1.2 to 3.1.2E. Now `idle' xterm > > process sit chewing up cpu time. A couple xterms will keep the > > load average around 1 on an otherwise completely idle system. > > > > I'm running the May 1st FreeBSD-2.2 snapshot. Has anyone else > > noticed this? > > I have noticed that with the X312E release (Ma64 sever) that the load > average runs very very high compared to the 3.1.2D. I never noticed what > it was but xterms seem plausible as the load is small when the machine is > not running an xterm. > > Andrew > -- angio@aros.net Complete virtual hosting and business-oriented system administration Internet services. (WWW, FTP, email) http://www.aros.net/ http://www.aros.net/about/virtual "There are only two industries that refer to thier customers as 'users'." From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 15:02:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA23596 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 15:02:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ylana.vet.purdue.edu (bhlewis@expert.cc.purdue.edu [128.210.10.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA23581 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 15:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ylana.vet.purdue.edu (localhost.vet.purdue.edu [127.0.0.1]) by ylana.vet.purdue.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA00947; Sun, 26 May 1996 17:02:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199605262202.RAA00947@ylana.vet.purdue.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 To: Eric Ogren cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installing question In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 26 May 1996 16:39:09 -0400." From: Benjamin Lewis Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 17:02:56 -0500 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Eric Ogren wrote: > Sorry to bother you guys, but I asked in the newsgroups, and nobody's > replied yet, so.. > > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 2.2-960501-SNAP over PPP at 14.4. I can get > everything set up correctly, DNS and all, login to the ftp site, get some > of the root image. I see a bunch of filenames scroll by- the last one is > /stand/ls. After that, FreeBSD appears to lock up, and the modem hangs up. > > I've also asked my ISP to check their logs to determine what happened, but > do you have any ideas? Yes, I had this same problem when using SLiRP on the other end of the PPP link. I discovered that by disabling pred1 and lqr in PPP, I could advoid this problem. You may be experiencing something similar, so I'd try: Type: disable pred1 lqr deny pred1 lqr before typing "term" in PPP. I don't know if it helps, but I see that I also have: set openmode active in my ppp.conf file, so typing in addition to the above two lines may solve your problem. -Ben -- Benjamin Lewis - blewis@vet.purdue.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 15:17:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA25636 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 15:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seabass.progroup.com (catfish.progroup.com [206.24.122.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA25605 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 15:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from craig@localhost) by seabass.progroup.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA26542 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 26 May 1996 15:18:05 -0700 Message-Id: <199605262218.PAA26542@seabass.progroup.com> Subject: Re: xterm never sleeps... To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 15:18:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "Craig Shaver" In-Reply-To: from "John Fieber" at May 26, 96 02:05:51 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I just `upgraded' from XFree86 3.1.2 to 3.1.2E. Now `idle' xterm > process sit chewing up cpu time. A couple xterms will keep the > load average around 1 on an otherwise completely idle system. Just did the same thing this weekend. When I saw your mail I ran top and saw the same thing. Soooooo, I still had the 312d bin tgz sitting around and fetched the xterm from it. My load avg is back to normal and the xterms seem to have quieted down. > > I'm running the May 1st FreeBSD-2.2 snapshot. Has anyone else > noticed this? 2.1-R > > -john > > == jfieber@indiana.edu =========================================== > == http://fallout.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber ================ > > -- Craig Shaver (craig@progroup.com) (415)390-0654 Productivity Group POB 60458 Sunnyvale, CA 94088 From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 15:40:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA29197 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 15:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iectech.com (netgate.iectech.com [198.136.226.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA29179 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 15:40:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by netgate.iectech.com id <6159>; Sun, 26 May 1996 14:39:48 -0400 From: Chris Peltier To: "'Carey Nairn'" Cc: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: Arrg!! sig 11 Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 18:32:19 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.12.736 Encoding: 45 TEXT Message-Id: <96May26.143948edt.6159@netgate.iectech.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >On Sat, 25 May 1996, Nate Williams wrote: > >> > > > Signal 11's are really getting on my nerves! I'm starting to >> > > > wish I didn't upgrade to 2.1r.. >> > > >> > > I *highly* suspect hardware failure, which didn't get tickled by 2.0 >for >> > > reasons of usage or whatever. >> ... >> > > >> > > > cd to?? I used /usr/local/bin >> > > > man -a * |& col -b > /tmp/junk.test >> > >> > Because I was doing nothing else important I decided to give this a try > >> > as well... I got a seg fault. I have also been noticing some other >> > strange behaviour on my home machine when compiling.. things failing >with >> > bus errors or seg faults that work fine when I do the same compile on >my >> > work machine... the only difference between the two is really the way >> > FreeBSD was installed. The home machine was installed over 2.0.5 as an > >> > upgrade and the work machine was installed as a clean 2.1 install. >> > Could this be a cause of these random errors, or do I maybe have some >> > dodgy hardware in the home machine ? >> >> I suspect dodgy hardware. It shouldn't matter if the upgrade was done >> (assuming the upgrade was done correctly ala. 'make world'). If the >> latter was done, then *all* the system binaries except the kernel were >> updated, and I assumed you also upgraded the kernel. I have seen the same compiling problems on 2.1.0 release with similar hardware on several identical machines. These machine were Pentium 100s with an ECS Triton 1 chipset motherboard, 16mb RAM, Diamond S3 PCI video, DE100 PCI NIC. The compiles generated signal 11 at some arbitrary point. The user/process environment was trashed after that. I could restart the operation under a different process and it would it would finish (or maybe crash again). Everything else >seems OK. > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 17:02:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA16904 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 17:02:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA16891 for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 26 May 1996 17:02:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 17:02:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Lehey Message-Id: <199605270002.RAA16891@freefall.freebsd.org> To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update 7 May 1996. This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"**). In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. I'm taking the viewpoint of the newcomer here: we have other ways of handling arrogant hackers :-) When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, please remember: 1. Nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message, so please specify a subject. "FreeBSD problem" or "Can't get this to work" aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, most people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. Please try to format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. 4. Please don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 5. Please specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: - If you get error messages, don't say "I get error messages", say (for example) "I get the error message 'No route to host'". - If your system panics, don't say "My system panicked", say (for example) "my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'". - If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. 6. If you don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. For example, let's assume you know the answer to the following question. You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ** Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for this activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 18:04:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA28927 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 18:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA28910 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 18:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id aa15253; 27 May 96 1:03 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa00868; 27 May 96 1:59 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id AAA00862; Mon, 27 May 1996 00:36:09 GMT Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 00:36:09 GMT Message-Id: <199605270036.AAA00862@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: hey@tuns.ca CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199605261938.MAA11110@freefall.freebsd.org> (hey@tuns.ca) Subject: Re: Help Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > /dev/rsd0a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY > Automatic file system chek failed ... help! At boot time, fsck is run with the -p option from /etc/rc. This puts it in a non-interactive mode where it can only fix a limited set of file-system inconsistencies. The message is telling you fsck has found an inconsistency that is beyond its capabilities to fix and that you should run it by hand (without the -p option). See the fsck man page for a fuller explanation. > During the bootting of the system, I have no chance to interrupt it to > do anything. You can send fsck a QUIT signal (control-backslash), according to the man page. A better way is probably to type '-s' at the boot prompt and boot in single-user mode. > Please advice me what should I do in order to access the hadr disk to get > all my files out if the system have to reinstalled. Hmm. Even if you have another FreeBSD disk in the machine, mount won't look at it until you've fsck'd it. You do take regular backups, don't you? 8-) It's difficult to predict how bad the damage might be. The only time this has happened to me was when I put some bad SIMMs in my machine and everything started segfaulting just after the system went multi-user. Unfortunately, use of the damaged files was the /var/spool/news directory (I start up innd from rc.local), so I ended up with a trashed news spool. 8-( On the other hand, you may not even lose any files at all. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland jraynard@dial.pipex.com james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 18:12:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA00942 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 18:12:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dns2.noc.best.net (dns2.noc.best.net [206.86.0.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA00928 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 18:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from james.hardware.com (mitchj.oz.net [206.61.156.162]) by dns2.noc.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA23780 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 18:12:40 -0700 Message-Id: <199605270112.SAA23780@dns2.noc.best.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Mitch James" Organization: James Lumber & Ace Hardware To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 18:00:54 -0700 Subject: Newbe & install trouble with IDE CD-ROM Reply-to: mitch@hardware.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi All, I began my adventure by lurking in the *BSD & Linux* news groups and pooring over the three Web sites. I finally concluded that FreeBSD is my best choise to start using my own Un*x system at home. I have other uses for BSD at work but want to tame the horned creature first. ;-) I took the comments @ www.freeBSD.org literally, and pulled a couple of 386's out of the corner storage heap. I had a Reveal IDE CD-ROM that I added to the first system to use with the Walnut Creek FreeBSD 2.1 CD-ROM. I received and read the book Installing and Running FreeBSD, for anyone thinking about BSD should make the investment. It is a very good book and it took a lot of guess work out of installing BSD. Unfortunatly, it does not have a chapter on preventing "Operator Error", a malady I think I'm suffering from. System: 386-dx25, IDE Maxtor ~523 meg HD,5.25"FD & 3.5"FD, Logitec bus mouse, vga ISA vidio, serial ports & parallel port. IDE Reveal CD-ROM, 100 meg MS-DOS slice. I created partitions for BSD: / 32MB, swap 32MB, /var 30MB, /usr 323MB. I was not able to install from the CD-ROM directly, INST_IDE didn't see my CD after booting. Per the book I copied /dists/bin & /floppies to my MS-DOS partition. I found out after the first install I need more than the book tells us about. On the second install I copied /dists/manpages, src, in addition to the excisting. I also coppied /docs over. This is where I'm thinking my OE come into play. What other files and dirs do I need to have on the MS partition to install everything need to compile a kernel able to see an IDE CD-ROM? I was able to make a couple of kernels that didn't work with the CD-ROM. I saw errors during the install with the program looking for, dict/dict.tgz, info/info.tgz and proflibs/proflibs.tgz. I have compiled a working kernel, I uncommented the 'ATAPI & wcd0' lines in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/MYKERNEL file. The second try at this I used almost a GENERIC version except for changing the name of the kernel and uncommenting the IDE CD instructions. I ran a third kernel and added a line, "controller wcd0" (page192) after the ATAPI I'm still been unable to mount the CD-ROM. I tried two different mount commands that were posted here recently. 'mount -r -t cd9660 /dev/wcd0c /cdrom' results: "mount: /cdrom: no such file or directory 'mount_cd9660 /dev/wcd0c /cdrom' results:"mount /dev/cd9660 : no such flile or directory" I did check the /dev for the device drivers 'wcd0c & rcd0c", they were there but had 0 (zero) size.??? I also tried '#sh MAKEDEV wcd0' the script ran but there was no apparent change in the files. During the boot process I see the message at the end, "May 26 17:22:40 mitchj mount[77] can't open /var/db/mountdtab" What should I do now? re-install after copying more dirs from CD to MS-dos slice? Go out and buy a new SCSI CD-Rom? Any suggestions are appreciated. Cheers, Mitch ________________________________________________________________________ Mitch James--Poulsbo, Wa Living Near Latte' Land mitch@hardware.com James Lumber & Ace Hardware http://www.hardware.com/ www.hardware.com/complist.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 20:41:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA00494 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 20:41:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arnie.systems.sa.gov.au (arnie.systems.sa.gov.au [143.216.242.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA00466 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 20:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from state.systems.sa.gov.au by arnie.systems.sa.gov.au (PMDF V4.3-7 #13538) id <01I579J2MQV400BLTC@arnie.systems.sa.gov.au>; Mon, 27 May 1996 13:09:31 +1030 Received: from jolt (jolt.systems.sa.gov.au) by state.systems.sa.gov.au (PMDF V5.0-4 #13538) id <01I579ISNMW000129D@state.systems.sa.gov.au> for questions@freefall.freebsd.org; Mon, 27 May 1996 13:09:20 +0930 Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 13:11:03 -1000 From: Garth T Kidd Subject: Re: Arrg!! sig 11 X-Sender: garth@dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Message-id: <1.5.4.32.19960527231103.00378874@dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I suspect dodgy hardware. ... or maybe not. Corey, upgrade to 2.1-STABLE; it's a little less touchy. I managed to get my number of sig11 show-stoppers down from a few an hour to one or two a day by upgrading from 2.1-RELEASE. Of course, they were only eliminated when I got a decent motherboard, but hardware isn't the _only_ factor to consider if people are having sig11 problems. Win95 ran perfectly even on my old, buggy motherboard -- I guess it wasn't pushing the machine all that hard. Is there any way we could compile up a forgiving, slow-mode FreeBSD kernel that is similarly friendly? Anyone? > FYI its a pentium 100, 16MB RAM (70ns.. I guess this may be a problem) > 2 WD IDE disks, 1 IDE CDROM, Diamond Stealth S3 868 DRAM PCI card... I was running 70ns memory, too. Still am, but this new board seems to deal with the timing a lot better. garth@dogbert.systems.sa.gov.au | Garth Kidd +61-8-207-7740 (voice) | Network Services +61-8-207-7860 (fax) | EDS | Adelaide, AUSTRALIA From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 20:53:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA02125 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 20:53:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jennifer.pernet.net (root@jennifer.pernet.net [205.229.0.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA02111 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 20:52:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ALLRED (dialin189.pernet.net [205.229.0.189]) by jennifer.pernet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA21455 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 22:47:57 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199605270347.WAA21455@jennifer.pernet.net> Date: Sun, 26 May 96 22:40:59 -0700 From: "Clyde V. Allred" X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2 (Windows; U; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Help!!!! Win95 cratering Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We have installed FreeBSD and then installed Win95. Our Win95 gets to a certain point in the loadup and then resets the computer. Could there be an interupt problem or what could be causing Win95 to crater. Safe Mode works as well as MS-DOS mode. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 21:19:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA07884 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 21:19:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA07875 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 21:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.CES.CWRU.Edu (alpha.CES.CWRU.Edu [129.22.16.10]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id VAA26913 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 21:19:38 -0700 Received: from fox.CES.CWRU.Edu (fox.CES.CWRU.Edu [129.22.16.17]) by alpha.CES.CWRU.Edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA15376; Mon, 27 May 1996 00:15:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from akbari@localhost) by fox.CES.CWRU.Edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA01475; Mon, 27 May 1996 00:18:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fox.CES.CWRU.Edu (fox.CES.CWRU.Edu [129.22.16.17]) by alpha.CES.CWRU.Edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA07110; Thu, 23 May 1996 18:43:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Kazem Akbari Received: (from akbari@localhost) by fox.CES.CWRU.Edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA00339; Thu, 23 May 1996 18:45:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605232245.SAA00339@fox.CES.CWRU.Edu> Subject: Re: How to install FreeBSD from an IDE CD-Drive? To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, 21270.832584301@palmer.demon.co.uk Date: Thu, 23 May 96 18:45:20 EDT Cc: akbari@alpha.CES.CWRU.Edu (Kazem Akbari) In-Reply-To: <21270.832584301@palmer.demon.co.uk>; from "Gary Palmer" at May 20, 96 10:25 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |==> |==> > I tried "mount /cdrom" several times and the system returned: |==> |==> > "cd9660: /dev/wdc0c: Device not configured" |==> |==> Ah. ATAPI CDROM. You'll need to compile a custom kernel for ATAPI |==> support, as I believe the kernel which is installed (even if you use |==> the ATAPI boot floppy to install) is the plain GENERIC kernel which |==> doesn't have ATAPI support. See the documentation for instructions on Yes, it is absolutely true. I installed the FreeBSD five times and every time I came across the same problem for the building of ports and mounting the /cdrom. I installed both from boot floppy and CD-ROM direct, but results are the same. Anyways, I got an IDE CD-drive (TEAC 6x) and I am totally confused of what to do next. Even the documentation make me more confuse and I really need help for the correct/complete installation of my UNIX system. It will be greatly appreciated if you give me a clear direction in detail. Thanks, Kazem. |==> compiling kernels. You will need to have installed at least the |==> ``ssys'' kernel source code distribution to be able to do this. |==> |==> Gary |==> -- |==> Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member |==> FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info |==> -- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 22:18:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA21067 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 22:18:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA21046 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 22:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA25566; Mon, 27 May 1996 15:05:53 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199605270535.PAA25566@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Samba To: www@mnemosyne.muse.com.au (Richard Beyer) Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 15:05:53 +0930 (CST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Richard Beyer" at May 23, 96 07:14:01 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Richard Beyer stands accused of saying: > > Is there any way of mounting a Win95 drive using samba. > > Currently I can use smbclient \\\\host\\c but this puts me in a shell of > sorts. No. W95 doesn't support the sort of user or host authentication to make that sort of mount possible, let alone useful. > Richard. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] Collector of old Unix hardware. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 22:36:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA25968 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 22:36:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.unm.edu. (ppp_062.unm.edu [129.24.14.62]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA25926 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 22:36:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by localhost.unm.edu. (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00681; Sun, 26 May 1996 23:34:41 -0600 Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 23:34:41 -0600 Message-Id: <199605270534.XAA00681@localhost.unm.edu.> From: "Erik L. Ellis" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: QUESTION - how to set up news spool Reply-To: ele@eece.unm.edu Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there a tutorial or something out there on how to set up a news spool? I'm running FreeBSD-2.1.0 and use 'suck' to suck in a few newsgroups. Now I'd like to use tin to read the news, but apparently don't have things set up right (what dir I should suck the articles to ,how to set up the config files, etc.). The error I get when I run tin is: tin 1.2 PL2 [UNIX] (c) Copyright 1991-93 Iain Lea. Reading news active file...Active file corrupt - comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.announce /usr/local/lib/news/active contains no newsgroups. Exiting. Thanks in advance, -- | ___ Erik L. Ellis ____________ | ___ Staff Research Engineer _____________ | University of New Mexico | Voice: 505/277-3431 FAX: 505/277-1413 | Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering | Albuquerque, NM 87131 | URL: http://www.khoral.com/staff/ele/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 22:37:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA26102 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 22:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fyeung5.netific.com (netific.vip.best.com [205.149.182.145]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA26074 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 22:36:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fyeung@localhost) by fyeung5.netific.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA00871 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 26 May 1996 22:42:29 GMT From: francis yeung Message-Id: <199605262242.WAA00871@fyeung5.netific.com> Subject: diskless FreeBSD To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 22:42:28 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I want to create a floppy bootable diskless FreeBSD system - basically the system will bootup and operate from the floppy , providing routing/ipfiltering, http caching (from memory), http redirection, DNS caching, etc so that multiple PCs (students) on Ethernet can share the connection to an internet gateway. Where can I locate information about making one ? Thank you for your help. Francis From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 23:35:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA06548 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 23:35:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA06521 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 23:35:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id XAA27446 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 23:12:34 -0700 Received: from sili.adn.edu.ph (sili.adn.edu.ph [165.220.57.2]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.7.5/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with SMTP id XAA15449 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 23:12:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sili.adn.edu.ph (sili.adn.edu.ph [165.220.57.2]) by sili.adn.edu.ph (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA10410 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 09:59:57 +1000 Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 09:59:57 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: "Francis Percival C. Favoreal" To: freebsd-questions Subject: changing the cursor Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk HI !!! Is there a way to change the appearance of the cursor? Right now it looks like a square block. I was planning to change its looks. Thank You ~:') -- jf From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 23:35:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA06549 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 23:35:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA06526 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 23:35:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sili.adn.edu.ph (root@sili.adn.edu.ph [165.220.57.2]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id XAA27504 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 23:20:46 -0700 Received: from sili.adn.edu.ph (sili.adn.edu.ph [165.220.57.2]) by sili.adn.edu.ph (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA10467 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 10:08:24 +1000 Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 10:08:24 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: "Francis Percival C. Favoreal" To: freebsd-questions Subject: FTP err: Could'nt open /usr/libexec/ld.so Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk HI !!! I configured my FreeBSD (2.2-960501-SNAP) to allow anonymous FTP. I run /stand/sysinstall to do the job. A dialog box was displayed and just left the default values untouched except for the directory and used '/usr/ftp' instead. I tried anonymous FTP and it connected. The problem was when I issue the command 'ls' it displays: Could'nt open /usr/libexec/ld.so. Do I have to transfer the necessary files in /usr to the FTP root directory /usr/ftp ? Thank You ~:') -- jf From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 26 23:35:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA06597 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 26 May 1996 23:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA06554 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 23:35:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hoover.stanford.edu (hoover.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.99]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id XAA27497 for ; Sun, 26 May 1996 23:18:02 -0700 Received: from HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU by HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #13307) id <01I56G20HJKG007N8T@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU>; Sun, 26 May 1996 23:18:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 23:18:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson Subject: PPP Server Question To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.ORG Message-id: <01I56G20ICIA007N8T@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-VMS-Cc: ANDRSN MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to get my office machine to function as a ppp server using user ppp (this happens to be the one I got working first). The office machine is running 2.1-STABLE and has options GATEWAY in the kernel; sysctl shows that ip forwarding is turned on. The ppp connection works fine, and I can ping the office machine from home and vice versa. I have an ip address to use for the home machine (and another one if I need it). What I can't do is ping or reach any host beyond the office computer from the computer at home. It seemed from the handbook that running gated would be the right thing to do, so I installed it and changed sysconfig accordingly, turning off routed. So I would appreciate some help; I'd guess there's something wrong with gated.conf. In the following: 36.33.0.163 is the office computer with 3COM509, ep0 36.33.0.1 is the default router in sysconfig 36.33.0.99 is the Hoover VAX 36.33.0.75 is the IP address I'm using for the home computer 36.33.0.157 is another IP address that belongs to me that I haven't used; the kernel ppp description in the handbook suggests it may be necessary to use this second IP address on the office machine somehow Thanks very much. Annelise Here's gated.conf: #gated configuration file #tracing options traceoptions "/var/tmp/gated.output" replace size 100k files 2 general ; # #interfaces { # interface 36.33.0.163 passive ; # interface ep0 passive ; #} ; # configuration for rip protocols rip yes { interface ep0 ripin ripout version 1 ; interface tun ripin ripout version 1 ; traceoptions route ; } ; static { default gateway 36.33.0.1 retain; host 36.33.0.75 gateway 36.33.0.163 retain; } ; # Propagate route out Ethernet interface via RIP export proto rip interface ep0 { proto direct { 36.33.0.163 mask 255.255.0.0 metric 1; } ; } ; # Accept routes import proto rip interface ep0 { all ; } ; Here's ifconfig -a: lp0: flags=8810 mtu 1500 ep0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 36.33.0.163 netmask 0xffff0000 broadcast 36.33.255.255 ether 00:20:af:be:eb:e0 lo0: flags=8009 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 sl1: flags=c010 mtu 552 tun0: flags=8051 mtu 1500 inet 36.33.0.163 --> 36.33.0.75 netmask 0xff000000 And netstat -rn: Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 36.33.0.1 UGSc 5 8 ep0 36.33 link#2 UC 0 0 36.33.0.1 0:0:c:2:78:4c UHLW 6 40 ep0 1150 36.33.0.75 36.33.0.163 UH 1 53 tun0 36.33.0.99 aa:0:4:0:1:4 UHLW 1 11 ep0 909 36.33.0.163 0:20:af:be:eb:e0 UHLW 0 0 lo0 127 127.0.0.1 URc 0 0 lo0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 0 lo0 224 link#2 UCS 0 0 224.0.0.9 127.0.0.1 UH 0 0 lo0 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 00:35:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA18363 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 00:35:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA18347 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 00:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homer30.u.washington.edu (durang@homer30.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.8]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id AAA27802 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 00:06:04 -0700 Received: from localhost by homer30.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA149975; Mon, 27 May 96 00:06:02 -0700 Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 00:06:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Marsh To: questions@Freebsd.org Subject: subscribing Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@Freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I got your address from a friend who pushes BSD. I just installed the OS and would like to sign up. Thanks. Ken Marsh From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 00:35:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA18388 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 00:35:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dev01.interactive.com (pppA219.micronet.fr [193.149.100.73]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA18324 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 00:35:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by dev01.interactive.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id JAA05344 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 May 1996 09:36:02 GMT Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.3 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: fmtel@micronet.fr Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 09:27:18 From: fmtel@micronet.fr To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Multiproc & Raid support Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, We plan to install a DEC Prioris HX5100MP under FreeBSD. Before doing it, we need to know if FreeBSD supports : 1) multiprocessor servers (up to 4 Pentium 100) ? 2) multiprocessing ? 3) Raid 0+1or 5 with Mylex monocanal EISA Narrow RAID controller ? Thnaks in advance. Best regards, Jean-Marc BOTTURA ---------------------------------- E-Mail: fmtel@micronet.fr Date: 05/27/96 Time: 09:27:18 ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 00:59:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA21498 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 00:59:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phoenix.eai.com (gate-phoenix.eai.com [129.186.203.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA21492 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 00:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by phoenix.eai.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for <@phoenix.eai.com:freebsd-install@freebsd.org> id DAA15700; Mon, 27 May 1996 03:03:15 -0500 Received: from goliath.eai.com(192.186.203.61) by phoenix.eai.com via smap (V1.3) id sma015697; Mon May 27 03:02:44 1996 Received: from granite.eai.com by goliath.eai.com via ESMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id DAA08848; Mon, 27 May 1996 03:02:43 -0500 Received: by granite.eai.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9) id DAA20905; Mon, 27 May 1996 03:02:37 -0500 From: "Kent VanderVelden" Message-Id: <9605270302.ZM20903@granite.eai.com> Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 03:02:35 -0500 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: freebsd-install@freebsd.org Subject: Installing FreeBSD on a NetBSD system Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk After searching though www.freebsd.org I have not found how to install FreeBSD and replace NetBSD on a machine that is already installed with NetBSD. Are the file systems compatiable? Could you give a suggested path to take to do this? Thank you. -- Kent Vander Velden kent@eai.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 02:26:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA28138 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 02:26:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA28133 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 02:26:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de) by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V5.0-4 #13110) id <01I575XOLILS0005CV@mail.rwth-aachen.de>; Mon, 27 May 1996 11:26:44 +0100 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA09413; Mon, 27 May 1996 11:32:19 +0200 Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 11:32:19 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Subject: Re: diskless FreeBSD In-reply-to: <199605262242.WAA00871@fyeung5.netific.com> To: fyeung@fyeung5.netific.com (francis yeung) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-to: Christoph Kukulies Message-id: <199605270932.LAA09413@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Greetings, > > I want to create a floppy bootable diskless FreeBSD system > - basically the system will bootup and operate from > the floppy , providing routing/ipfiltering, http caching (from memory), > http redirection, DNS caching, etc so that multiple PCs (students) > on Ethernet can share the connection to an internet gateway. > > Where can I locate information about making one ? It looks like you are mixing up something: Either you run your machine diskless (that is your kernel is loaded over the net and that kernel plus the following mounts etc. determine the behaviour/setup of your system) or You boot from a floppy with a special kernel which would require being able to make releases. I assume you don't want to run the latter. To achieve the former build /sys/i386/boot/netboot/netboot.com and put it on a (ick) DOS bootable floppy - it would be interesting to find a way to circumvent having to boot DOS btw. Read up the chapter 'diskless operation' (or something) in the handbook.html. > > Thank you for your help. > > Francis > > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 03:07:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA00563 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 03:07:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chaph.usc.edu (root@chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA00557 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 03:07:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xpoxkjkf (comserv-j-65.usc.edu [128.125.224.209]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id DAA10410 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 03:07:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <31AA2781.5EDA@scf.usc.edu> Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 15:06:57 -0700 From: Brian quirion Organization: Internet Middleware Corp. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: ps2 mouse Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I added the lines from the faq regarding the ps2 mouse and recompiled. However now I get the message psm0 not probed due to address conflict with sc0 at 0x60 Any ideas how I can get this mouse to work? thanks Brian From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 04:53:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA07011 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 04:53:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA07006 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 04:53:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uO0rZ-000QYxC; Mon, 27 May 96 13:53 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA23960; Mon, 27 May 1996 13:45:08 +0200 Message-Id: <199605271145.NAA23960@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: Help!!!! Win95 cratering To: allred@mail.pernet.net (Clyde V. Allred) Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 13:45:07 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: <199605270347.WAA21455@jennifer.pernet.net> from "Clyde V. Allred" at May 26, 96 10:40:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Clyde V. Allred writes: > > We have installed FreeBSD and then installed Win95. Our Win95 gets to a > certain point in the loadup and then resets the computer. Could there be > an interupt problem or what could be causing Win95 to crater. Safe Mode > works as well as MS-DOS mode. It sounds like a bug in Windows 95% to me. Possibly triggered by some configuration problem it won't tell you about. Sorry, it's not a FreeBSD problem, even if the presence of FreeBSD on the disk were to prove to be the problem. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 05:36:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA10081 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 05:36:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA10076 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 05:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uO1W5-000QZ7C; Mon, 27 May 96 14:35 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id OAA24153 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 27 May 1996 14:28:41 +0200 Message-Id: <199605271228.OAA24153@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: weird error To: jsigmon@www.hsc.wvu.edu (Jeremy Sigmon) Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 14:27:21 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: ]@allegro.lemis.de In-Reply-To: from "Jeremy Sigmon" at May 22, 96 02:53:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jeremy Sigmon writes: > > Also..... > How serious is this one > > fd0c: hard error reading fsbn 0 (ST0 40 ST 1 ST 0 cyn 0 hd > 0 sec 1) Not very serious. It's telling you that the floppy has a defective sector (the very first one: cylinder 0, head 0, sector 1). This could mean that the floppy hasn't been formatted. If it has, throw it away. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 07:05:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA15377 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 07:05:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA15363 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 07:05:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uO2vA-000QZ4C; Mon, 27 May 96 16:05 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA24305; Mon, 27 May 1996 15:47:58 +0200 Message-Id: <199605271347.PAA24305@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: size of filesystem if u are gonna mount /usr ... To: spaz@u.washington.edu (John Utz) Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 15:47:57 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "John Utz" at May 21, 96 09:30:26 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John Utz writes: > > Anybody have any idea how much space i would need to do something > like this? Like what? A separate /usr file system? > This is exclusive of swap, of course. I plan on using 30 meg of swap > given my 6 megs of ram ( That way the mysterious octave/gnuplot mem > leak wont kill me quite so fast.. ). Your swap size will depend greatly on your applications. You seem to know what you need there, so I won't comment. > I want to put this on a on an 80M harddrive along with a ~10M /dos > partition on the same disk, i plan on mounting a D drive for MSWindows as > well. hmm 80 - 10 - 30 gives me 40M... can this be done? OK, it looks as if you don't want a separate /usr file system after all. For a disk of this size, this is a very good idea. Yes, you can put some kind of FreeBSD file system on 40 MB, if that's what your question is. Obviously you're not going to have bags of space over. You might consider using tunefs(8) to lower minfree from the default 8% to, say, 2%. See the man page for further confusing details and a famous quotation. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 07:12:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA15982 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 07:12:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from escape.cs.ibank.ru (escape.cs.ibank.ru [194.58.131.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA15906 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 07:11:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from igor@localhost) by escape.cs.ibank.ru (8.7.5/8.7.3/Zynaps) id SAA01660 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 May 1996 18:10:44 +0400 (MSD) From: Igor Vinokurov Message-Id: <199605271410.SAA01660@escape.cs.ibank.ru> Subject: CD-R To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 18:10:44 +0400 (MSD) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk re, Sorry for my dumb question but I can write to my Pinnacle CD-R 1000 cd.image grabbed from source by cdgrab? Under new SNAP? -- Igor Vinokurov From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 08:12:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA19275 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 08:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apoio.cmp.unicamp.br (apoio.cmp.unicamp.br [143.106.10.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA19038 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 08:09:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apoio.cmp.unicamp.br (apoio.cmp.unicamp.br [143.106.10.14]) by apoio.cmp.unicamp.br (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA07651 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 12:04:45 GMT Message-ID: <31A99A5D.41C67EA6@cesar.unicamp.br> Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 12:04:45 +0000 From: Fabio Mengue - supusr - CCUEC X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b2 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: 3Com PCI Ethernet Card Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I bought a 3Com 3C590 PCI Ethernet card. I understand that this card is not supported by FreeBSD 2.1.0. However, the current and the stable versions support this card. What is the best way to make this card work in 2.1.0 ? Thanks a lot, Fabio. --- Fabio Mengue - System Analist Computer Center at State University of Campinas - Brazil From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 08:30:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA19862 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 08:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA19854 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 08:30:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA03439 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 10:30:52 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu: jfieber owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 10:30:51 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber X-Sender: jfieber@Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xterm never sleeps... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 26 May 1996, John Fieber wrote: > I just `upgraded' from XFree86 3.1.2 to 3.1.2E. Now `idle' xterm > process sit chewing up cpu time. A couple xterms will keep the > load average around 1 on an otherwise completely idle system. Okay, I got a response from the XFree86 people and it is now a known bug. There is also a bug in the termios code for xterm that can make rlogin fail if you session was started with xdm. So, if you upgrade to "E", be sure to hang on to your "D" xterm for now! -john == jfieber@indiana.edu =========================================== == http://fallout.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber ================ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 08:38:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA20341 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 08:38:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.phoenix.net (root@mail.phoenix.net [199.3.232.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA20327 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 08:38:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from joe.phoenix.net (joe.phoenix.net [199.3.233.112]) by mail.phoenix.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA03290 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 10:38:13 -0500 Message-ID: <31A9CCBA.2695@phoenix.net> Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 10:39:39 -0500 From: Leigh Gaffney Reply-To: leigh@phoenix.net Organization: Phoenix DataNET, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Questions Regarding FD/Kernel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am running FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE (not STABLE) and it's only purpose is for ircd for the dalnet ircd network. I am limited however to 260 connections total - we are a major hub for dalnet and with a Pentium 120MHZ 64MB RAM we would like to use all 2000 available connections we can use with dalnet ircd under 64MB ram - here's what I've tried thus far Makefile in the Makefile, we've added CFLAGS = -D"FD_SETSIZE=1024" this however when compiled with a kernel of either max connections of 10, 64, 65 200 - will run the ircd for five minutes and crash (it has specified in the config.h max connections of 1024) I went to the kernel and tried a couple items such as the following: changing max connections from 10 to 64 tried 65 and 200 - no luck options "CHILD_MAX=1024" options "OPEN_MAX=1024" instead of the typical 128 (we tried 128 too) nothing works - is there ANY way we can get the file descriptors to accept all 1024 (preferrably the 2000 I know we can easily handle) - we are a major hub for the DALnet ircd network often holding half or more of that network together - phoenix.dal.net is also a listed DALnet server in the mIRC and serveral other irc client programs out there and is used by 230 users easily by 9 am every morning. Any help on this issue would be greatly appreciated. If you wish to test with your own servers or view the dalnet ircd code it can be located at ftp site ftp.dal.net/dalnet/server the current code it the irc2.8.21.mu3.dal4.2 - however on FreeBSD I cannot get that to run period - I'm still running a later version named irc2.8.21.mu3.dal4a -Leigh Gaffney WebMistress, IRC System Administrator phoenix.dal.net "Wolenczak" http://www.dal.net/ http://www.phoenix.net/~leigh From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 09:01:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA21499 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 09:01:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DGS.dgsys.com (root@dgs.dgsys.com [204.97.64.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA21492 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 09:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from justine.elastica.com by DGS.dgsys.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA13305; Mon, 27 May 1996 11:58:31 -0400 Received: (from robert@localhost) by justine.elastica.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA03445; Tue, 28 May 1996 08:01:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 08:01:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605281201.IAA03445@justine.elastica.com> From: Robert Nicholson To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: PPP... how does it work? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, is there any body on this list that has a good understanding as to how PPP works? I ask because of all the times I've setup PPP I've only ever got it going properly this way... I've always have to configure my en0 regardless that I don't use it. I've find that relying on just the PPP interface and lo0 never works. Here's how it's configured under NeXTSTEP. Similarly configured under FreeBSD but I'd be interested in knowing how things should be configured with en0. So, here's some information. root:/tmp/tape>ifconfig -a 7:55 lo0: flags=869 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask ff000000 en0: flags=63 inet 192.42.172.1 netmask ffffff00 broadcast 192.42.172.255 ppp0: flags=51 inet 204.97.69.153 --> 204.97.64.1 netmask ffffff00 ppp1: flags=10 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Note: the bogus 192 address for en0 Here's my hosts. root:/tmp/tape>nidump hosts / 7:56 127.0.0.1 localhost 255.255.255.255 broadcasthost 192.42.172.1 justine.elastica.com justine 204.97.64.3 news.dgsys.com news ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Routing tables Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Interface 204.97.64.1 204.97.69.153 UH 0 202 ppp0 204.97.69.153 127.0.0.1 UH 0 0 lo0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 4 789 lo0 default 204.97.64.1 UG 1 718 ppp0 192.42.172 192.42.172.1 U 8 3627 en0 Could somebody please explain static routing with the above examples to me? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now, I've always had to configure en0 because I need to refer to justine, justine.elastica.com when the interface is offline . ie. sendmail, inn etc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So, if you aren't using your NIC I'd be interested in hearing how you've configured PPP. also, I ask all of this because I'm having a bitch of a time getting dp-4.0 and Solaris 2.5 working under Solaris x86. Can anybody explain why snoop reports that all trafic I send out via my remote gateway turns out to be ETHER packets? I do not have le0 configured under Solaris so I'm confused why snoop reports all of these unknown 9945 ether type packets. Any help gratefully appreciated. Thank you. -- "Under the circumstances I will sit down." (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 09:06:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA22055 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 09:06:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA22039 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 09:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de) by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V5.0-4 #13110) id <01I57JUYMZOW0005W7@mail.rwth-aachen.de> for freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org; Mon, 27 May 1996 18:05:25 +0100 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA10341 for freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com; Mon, 27 May 1996 18:11:03 +0200 Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 18:11:03 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Subject: DES vs. MD5 encryption To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Message-id: <199605271611.SAA10341@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I built a system with libdescrypt.so.2.0 established the links in /usr/lib (libcrypt.so.2.0 -> libdescrypt.so.2.0) but entering a password doesn't produce a DES encrypted one. What can be wrong? --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 09:15:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA22629 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 09:15:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA22622; Mon, 27 May 1996 09:15:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id SAA24119; Mon, 27 May 1996 18:15:24 +0200 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id SAA29979; Mon, 27 May 1996 18:15:22 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id SAA02313; Mon, 27 May 1996 18:08:42 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199605271608.SAA02313@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: ssocks To: ylee@syl.dl.nec.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 18:08:41 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, ylee@syl.dl.nec.com Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: from Darek Misiak at "May 27, 96 01:25:42 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk (moved to freebsd-questions) As Darek Misiak wrote: > > Hi ! > > I have installed socks server (version 4). Since that time, when I try > to run Netscape I always receive the message "Server doesn't have a > DNS entry". When I go to the any 3W place using only IP number it works. > What, and how can I set to be able to convert number to name ? /etc/hosts /etc/resolv.conf man 5 resolver man 5 hosts -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 09:30:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA23483 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 09:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from park.interport.net (park.interport.net [199.184.165.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA23478 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 09:30:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ladr.port.net (ladr.port.net [204.74.1.22]) by park.interport.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA09227 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 12:30:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31A9D971.1010@interport.net> Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 12:33:53 -0400 From: RL X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FTP installation fails X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I wonder if someone could give me some advice. I tried to install FreeBSD last night over the internet via a PPP link. I went through the entire process, entered all the right IP addresses (the ones which I always use with PPP and which work fine), logged in using the term program, queried it and found that it seemed to think it had a good PPP link up, then tried to proceed and every time installation claimed it couldn't resolve the addresses for various FTP sites I tried. Thing is, it returned instantly with the 'not found' message, and careful observation of the modem lights showed no activity before it said it couldn't resolve the addresses. So I suspect it wasn't actually sending out the DNS request properly. What should I try next to get this to work? Any hints would be appreciated. Thanks. (P.S., please reply via Email) Raphael Laderman From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 10:07:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA25580 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 10:07:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emout13.mail.aol.com (emout13.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.39]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA25575 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 10:07:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Amooooo@aol.com Received: by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA11508 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 May 1996 13:06:54 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 13:06:54 -0400 Message-ID: <960527130652_121740719@emout13.mail.aol.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Missing o/s? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi you all I have problem after FreeBSD was installed. At boot up the system shows a missing opertating system. What could this problem be? Thanks Adam From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 10:56:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA29175 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 10:56:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from victoria.interop.com.br ([200.248.252.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA29067 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 10:56:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from solidao.interop.com.br (solidao.interop.com.br [200.247.20.5]) by victoria with SMTP (DuhMail/2.0) id OAA07244; Mon, 27 May 1996 14:22:50 -0300 Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 15:54:58 +0000 () From: rui To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Keybord Map Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Sir.. I bought FreeBSD 2.1 ... and I`ve got some doubts.. How can I map my keyboard to my apropriate country ? What kind of files do I must to set ? Is there anything ready to use (somewhere, www) from a provider ? Thank you ..... ------------------------------------------------------- | | | Name : Rui Cesar Q. Pinto | | Company: InterOp Informatica LTDA | | Address: Av. Osmar Cunha 15 Bloco C Sala 501 Centro | | Ed. Ceisa Center - Florianopolis - SC | | Brazil - 88015-100 | | E-mail : rui@interop.com.br | | Tel/Fax: +55-48-2241020 | | | ------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 12:16:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA04332 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 12:16:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nucleus.com (root@nucleus.com [199.45.65.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA04319 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 12:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from w95w1 (net11.nucleus.com [199.45.65.11]) by nucleus.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA29442 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 13:21:14 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <31A9FFCC.15E2@quattttro.com> Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 13:17:32 -0600 From: Roland Schoettle Reply-To: rolands@nucleus.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b3Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: NFS Problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am having a problem with a new FreeBSD install. Specifically NFS does not seem to work. When connecting to another UNIX host, all appears well - the mount works running "ls -l" across the mount shows the files on the mounted system. But when trying to "cp" a file across the NFS mount the tty doing the "cp" appears to hang (other ttys are OK). After a few minutes the tty comes back with the following message: monty sendmail[8031]: timeout waiting for input from local during message body read monty sendmail[8078]: timeout waiting for input from local during message body read monty sendmail[8078]: CAA08078: SYSERR: putoutmsg (NO-HOST): error on output channel sending "451 timeout waiting for input during message body read": Broken pipe monty sendmail[8078]: CAA08078: SYSERR: putoutmsg (NO-HOST): error on output channel sending "451 timeout waiting for input during message body read": Broken pipe monty sendmail[8177]: timeout waiting for input from local during initial message read At this point the tty is still hung (control C, control Break, etc have no effect. The system is called monty and is a Pentium 133 with 32M RAM using a SMC 10/100 PCI Adapter. Any help would be appreciated. Thankyou Roland Schoettle rolands@quattttro.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 12:34:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA05442 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 12:34:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crh.cl.msu.edu (crh.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.24]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA05424 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 12:34:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from henrich@localhost) by crh.cl.msu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA01085 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 May 1996 15:34:34 -0400 From: Charles Henrich Message-Id: <199605271934.PAA01085@crh.cl.msu.edu> Subject: xcdplayer on atapi cdrom? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 15:34:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hey Kids, has anyone gotten XCdplayer to work on /dev/rwcd0c? When I run it all I get is: ioctl(cdromreadtocentry): Invalid argument However cdplay wcd0 works just peachy.. Any ideas? -Crh Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@msu.edu http://pilot.msu.edu/~henrich From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 12:50:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA06066 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 12:50:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iaehv.IAEhv.nl (root@iaehv.IAEhv.nl [194.151.64.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA06058 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 12:50:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pm2d27.IAEhv.nl (pm2d27.IAEhv.nl [194.151.70.60]) by iaehv.IAEhv.nl (8.6.13/1.63) pid 22927 for ; id VAA22927; Mon, 27 May 1996 21:50:09 +0200 Message-ID: <31AA8625.2E7A@iaehv.nl> Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 21:50:45 -0700 From: Wilfred van Kilsdonk X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: cdrom problem & internet connection Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk dear freebsd.org.. I have installed freebsd 2.0 on my pc (along with ms-dos) but how do i make a i-net dial up connection with freebsd?? <--this goes for x-windows too and problem 2: i configured my kernel so that freebsd reqonize my atapi cd-rom but when i want to mount it (mount /dev/wcd0c /cdrom) I get an error something like superblock etc.. thanx and grtz.. Wilfred van Kilsdonk wilfred@iaehv.nl From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 12:54:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA06268 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 12:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from polarbear (root@ppp-14.cs.odu.edu [128.82.6.126]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA06257 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 12:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by polarbear (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA02844 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 27 May 1996 15:51:12 -0400 Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 15:51:12 -0400 From: David Popkin Message-Id: <199605271951.PAA02844@polarbear> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Kernel make problems Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I received this error at the end of make'ing a new kernel under FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE system: loading kernel kern_sysctl.o: Undefined symbol `_hw_float' referenced from text segment *** Error code 1 Stop. This is my conf file: # # GENERIC -- Generic machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks # # $Id: GENERIC,v 1.46.2.6 1995/10/25 17:29:51 jkh Exp $ # machine "i386" #cpu "I386_CPU" cpu "I486_CPU" #cpu "I586_CPU" ident POLARBEAR maxusers 4 options "CHILD_MAX=64" options GPL_MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options NFS #Network Filesystem options MFS options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem #options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 #options "SCSI_DELAY=15" #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options QUOTA options BOUNCE_BUFFERS #include support for DMA bounce buffers options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG config kernel root on wd0 controller isa0 #controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 #tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 2 controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 #options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus #device wcd0 #IDE CD-ROM #controller ncr0 #controller ahc0 #controller bt0 at isa? port "IO_BT0" bio irq ? vector btintr #controller uha0 at isa? port "IO_UHA0" bio irq ? drq 5 vector uhaintr #controller ahc1 at isa? bio irq ? vector ahcintr #controller ahb0 at isa? bio irq ? vector ahbintr #controller aha0 at isa? port "IO_AHA0" bio irq ? drq 5 vector ahaintr #controller aic0 at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector aicintr #controller nca0 at isa? port 0x1f88 bio irq 10 vector ncaintr #controller nca1 at isa? port 0x350 bio irq 5 vector ncaintr #controller sea0 at isa? bio irq 5 iomem 0xc8000 iosiz 0x2000 vector seaintr #controller scbus0 #device sd0 #device st0 #device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows #device wt0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1 vector wtintr #device mcd0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 10 vector mcdintr #device mcd1 at isa? port 0x340 bio irq 11 vector mcdintr #controller matcd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio #device scd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console #device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver device vt0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector pcrint options "PCVT_FREEBSD=210" # pcvt running on FreeBSD 2.1 options XSERVER # include code for XFree86 #device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr device sio2 at isa? port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 vector siointr device sio3 at isa? port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 vector siointr device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr #device lpt1 at isa? port? tty #device lpt2 at isa? port? tty #device mse0 at isa? port 0x23c tty irq 5 vector mseintr # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. #device de0 #device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr #device ed1 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr #device ie0 at isa? port 0x360 net irq 7 iomem 0xd0000 vector ieintr #device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 vector epintr #device ix0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 iosiz 32768 vector ixintr #device le0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 vector le_intr #device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 drq 0 vector lncintr #device lnc1 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 drq 0 vector lncintr #device ze0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd8000 vector zeintr #device zp0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 vector zpintr pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device log pseudo-device sl 1 # ijppp uses tun instead of ppp device pseudo-device ppp 1 pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's pseudo-device snp 16 -- Can you recommend a possible solution? Does it have to do with the math coprocessor emulation? I'd be happy to provide anymore info needed to diagnose this problem. Thanx for your time, Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 13:05:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA06966 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 13:05:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (peaches@gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA06955 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 13:05:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from peaches@localhost) by gallup.cia-g.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA26650 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 27 May 1996 14:07:43 -0600 Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 14:07:43 -0600 From: "Kyle D. Smith" Message-Id: <199605272007.OAA26650@gallup.cia-g.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Bootmanager.. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello. Could you please tell me how to reinstall the FreeBSD Bootmanager. It was deleted when i installed Dos version 6.22 on a partition on the drive. Is there a way to do it without reinstalling FreeBSD?? Thank you again. -=-=-=-=- kyle D. Smith peaches@cia-g.com www.daydreamer.grants.nm.us From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 13:40:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA09811 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 13:40:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA09791 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 13:40:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de) by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V5.0-4 #13110) id <01I57TH8R58W00065H@mail.rwth-aachen.de>; Mon, 27 May 1996 22:40:41 +0100 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA10960; Mon, 27 May 1996 22:46:19 +0200 Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 22:46:18 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Subject: Re: cdrom problem & internet connection In-reply-to: <31AA8625.2E7A@iaehv.nl> To: wilfred@IAEhv.nl (Wilfred van Kilsdonk) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Reply-to: Christoph Kukulies Message-id: <199605272046.WAA10960@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > dear freebsd.org.. > > I have installed freebsd 2.0 on my pc (along with ms-dos) > but how do i make a i-net dial up connection with freebsd?? <--this goes for x-windows too I'd recommend you get a newer version of FreeBSD (2.1.0) or a SNAP release. Documentation for setting up these kind of things has been greatly augmented in the recent months. > and problem 2: > i configured my kernel so that freebsd reqonize my atapi cd-rom but when i want > to mount it (mount /dev/wcd0c /cdrom) I get an error something like superblock etc.. mount -t cd9660 /dev/wcd0c /cdrom (may have been mount -t isofs in 2.0 - don't know exactly). > > thanx and grtz.. > Wilfred van Kilsdonk > wilfred@iaehv.nl > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 14:19:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA13910 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 14:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA13897 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 14:19:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-1) with ESMTP id WAA02958; Mon, 27 May 1996 22:18:05 +0100 (BST) To: David Popkin cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Kernel make problems In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 27 May 1996 15:51:12 EDT." <199605271951.PAA02844@polarbear> Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 22:18:05 +0100 Message-ID: <2956.833231885@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk David Popkin wrote in message ID <199605271951.PAA02844@polarbear>: > Hello, I received this error at the end of make'ing a new kernel > under FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE system: > > loading kernel > kern_sysctl.o: Undefined symbol `_hw_float' referenced from text segment > *** Error code 1 > #device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr This line is NON-OPTIONAL, whether you have a hardware FPU or need emulation... Uncomment and rebuild. I belive comments in later versions of the config files make this clearer Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 14:20:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA14117 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 14:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA14107 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 14:20:40 -0700 (PDT) From: af@biomath.jussieu.fr Received: from mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr (mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr [134.157.72.87]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.7.5/jtpda-5.2) with SMTP id XAA10970 ; Mon, 27 May 1996 23:20:32 +0200 (METDST) Received: from garfield.biomath.jussieu.fr (garfield) by mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr (5.67b/jn930126+af960507(mailhost)) at Mon, 27 May 1996 23:20:26 +0100 Received: from (af@localhost) by garfield.biomath.jussieu.fr (8.7.5/jtpda-5.2) id XAA04006 ; Mon, 27 May 1996 23:20:22 +0100 (GMT-1) Message-Id: <199605272220.XAA04006@garfield.biomath.jussieu.fr> Subject: Re: NFS Problem To: rolands@nucleus.com Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 23:20:15 +0100 (GMT-1) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31A9FFCC.15E2@quattttro.com> from "Roland Schoettle" at May 27, 96 01:17:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I am having a problem with a new FreeBSD install. Specifically NFS does > not seem to work. > > When connecting to another UNIX host, all appears well - the mount works > running "ls -l" across the mount shows the files on the mounted system. > But when trying to "cp" a file across the NFS mount the tty doing the > "cp" appears to hang (other ttys are OK). After a few minutes the tty > comes back with the following message: > monty sendmail[8031]: timeout waiting for input from local > during message body read > monty sendmail[8078]: timeout waiting for input from local > during message body read > monty sendmail[8078]: CAA08078: SYSERR: putoutmsg (NO-HOST): error > on output channel sending "451 timeout waiting for input during > message body read": Broken pipe > monty sendmail[8078]: CAA08078: SYSERR: putoutmsg (NO-HOST): error > on output channel sending "451 timeout waiting for input during > message body read": Broken pipe > monty sendmail[8177]: timeout waiting for input from local during > initial message read > It looks much like an NFS file locking problem to me. Would you by chance mount /var/mail (/var/spool/mail or whatever it is called on the system you are copying from) through NFS from the same machine you are copying to ? My feeling is that the cp requests a file lock which hangs the remote rpc.lockd which in turn causes any incoming request to sendmail to freeze. I sometimes observe very similar behaviour when the locking daemon on my Solaris 2.x server gets confused. I usually have to reboot, deleting the contents of /var/statmon/sm[.bak] (path varies on other flavours of Unix, see man statd). As for what your exact problem is, I don't know. I just suggest that you take a close look at NFS locking on either systems (do the statd and lockd daemons run ?). Good luck, _Alain_ -- Alain FAUCONNET Ingenieur systeme - System Manager AP-HP/SIM Public Health 91 bld de l'Hopital 75013 PARIS FRANCE Medical Computing Research Labs Mail: af@biomath.jussieu.fr Tel: (+33) 1-40-77-96-19 Fax: (+33) 1-45-86-80-68 I've RTFMed. It says: "Refer to your system administrator" But... I *am* the system administrator :-] From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 14:59:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA17924 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 14:59:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA17907 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 14:59:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net (mmdf@buffnet1.buffnet.net [205.246.19.10]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA03538 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:01:31 GMT Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net by buffnet1.buffnet.net id aa07159; 27 May 96 18:00 EDT Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 18:00:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve To: Roland Schoettle cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS Problem In-Reply-To: <31A9FFCC.15E2@quattttro.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You probably got one fast machine/card and one slow on. Mount with read and write sizes of 1024 and try On Mon, 27 May 1996, Roland Schoettle wrote: > I am having a problem with a new FreeBSD install. Specifically NFS does > not seem to work. > > When connecting to another UNIX host, all appears well - the mount works > running "ls -l" across the mount shows the files on the mounted system. > But when trying to "cp" a file across the NFS mount the tty doing the > "cp" appears to hang (other ttys are OK). After a few minutes the tty > comes back with the following message: > monty sendmail[8031]: timeout waiting for input from local > during message body read > monty sendmail[8078]: timeout waiting for input from local > during message body read > monty sendmail[8078]: CAA08078: SYSERR: putoutmsg (NO-HOST): error > on output channel sending "451 timeout waiting for input during > message body read": Broken pipe > monty sendmail[8078]: CAA08078: SYSERR: putoutmsg (NO-HOST): error > on output channel sending "451 timeout waiting for input during > message body read": Broken pipe > monty sendmail[8177]: timeout waiting for input from local during > initial message read > > At this point the tty is still hung (control C, control Break, etc have > no effect. > > The system is called monty and is a Pentium 133 with 32M RAM using a SMC > 10/100 PCI Adapter. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Thankyou > Roland Schoettle > rolands@quattttro.com > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 15:13:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA20515 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 15:13:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA20483 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 15:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ag25157; 27 May 96 22:13 GMT Received: from aj209.du.pipex.com ([193.130.249.209]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa16842; 27 May 96 23:06 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id TAA10493; Mon, 27 May 1996 19:41:37 GMT Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 19:41:37 GMT Message-Id: <199605271941.TAA10493@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: ele@eece.unm.edu CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199605270534.XAA00681@localhost.unm.edu.> (ele@localhost.unm.edu) Subject: Re: QUESTION - how to set up news spool Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is there a tutorial or something out there on how to set up a news > spool? I'm running FreeBSD-2.1.0 and use 'suck' to suck in a few > newsgroups. Now I'd like to use tin to read the news, but apparently > don't have things set up right (what dir I should suck the articles to > ,how to set up the config files, etc.). Which News server are you running? If it's INN, there's a very good FAQ for it (should be at rtfm.mit.edu and the other usual places - drop me a line if you can't find it and I'll mail you a copy). Do you even have a News server running? > The error I get when I run tin is: > > tin 1.2 PL2 [UNIX] (c) Copyright 1991-93 Iain Lea. > Reading news active file...Active file corrupt - comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.announce > > /usr/local/lib/news/active contains no newsgroups. Exiting. Is this the correct path to your active file? If so, the active file probably *is* corrupt - sometimes a load of junk gets written into it if the system crashes. To fix this with INN, throttle the server and edit the file. If it's beyond repair, delete it and run 'makeactive' ('man news-recovery' for details). If it's not the right path, tin is misconfigured and needs straightening out. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland jraynard@dial.pipex.com james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 15:14:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA20600 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 15:14:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA20592 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 15:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id PAA01338 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 15:14:29 -0700 Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ae25160; 27 May 96 22:13 GMT Received: from aj209.du.pipex.com ([193.130.249.209]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa16845; 27 May 96 23:06 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id UAA10546; Mon, 27 May 1996 20:33:34 GMT Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 20:33:34 GMT Message-Id: <199605272033.UAA10546@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: ANDRSN@hoover.stanford.edu CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <01I56G20ICIA007N8T@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> (message from Annelise Anderson on Sun, 26 May 1996 23:18:21 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: PPP Server Question Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm trying to get my office machine to function as a ppp server using > user ppp (this happens to be the one I got working first). The > office machine is running 2.1-STABLE and has options GATEWAY in > the kernel; sysctl shows that ip forwarding is turned on. It's probably worth mentioning that "options GATEWAY" won't be around for much longer - in fact it's already disappeared from -current. The approved method is to put gateway=YES in /etc/sysconfig. This shouldn't cause you any problems at the moment, though. > The ppp connection works fine, and I can ping the office machine > from home and vice versa. I have an ip address to use for the home > machine (and another one if I need it). What I can't do is ping > or reach any host beyond the office computer from the computer at > home. This usually means that everything's set up right, *except* for your home computer not having a default route set. [Cue simplistic explanation - there are three possible decisions that BSD networking software can make when deciding where to send a packet:- "It's addressed to me - I'll keep it". "It's addressed to a computer that's directly connected to me - I'll send it straight to them." "Don't know how to reach them - I'll send it over my default route to someone else who might know". If it doesn't have a default route, it throws it away. So you could ping your office machine, because it was directly connected by the PPP link, but your home computer didn't know what to do when you wanted to reach another host, as there wasn't a default route to send it over.] You can get PPP to do set a default route up for you when it makes the connection. If you're using user-mode ppp, your home computer's ppp.linkup file should look like this:- MYADDR: add 0 0 HISADDR For kernel-mode pppd, add a line saying defaultroute to your home computer's "options" file. > It seemed from the handbook that running gated would be the right > thing to do, so I installed it and changed sysconfig accordingly, > turning off routed. No offence intended, but gated always makes me think of an eminent Victorian politician's opinion on the Dreyfuss affair:- "Only three people have ever really understood this case. One is now dead. Another is now insane. The third is myself." "Unfortunately, I appear to have forgotten most of the details!" Sorry about that. Anyway, my advice is not to bother with any kind of routing daemons, unless you're doing something like setting up a dedicated router for an ISP. If your office computer can talk to the outside world, and has IP forwarding enabled, setting a default route on your home computer *should* be all that's needed. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland jraynard@dial.pipex.com james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 15:58:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA01532 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 15:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from felix.iupui.edu (root@felix.iupui.edu [134.68.45.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA01520 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 15:58:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from corona (x2s5p1.dialin.iupui.edu [134.68.249.60]) by felix.iupui.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA00519 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:58:22 -0500 Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 17:58:22 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960527180313.0030d2dc@felix.iupui.edu> X-Sender: jrclark@felix.iupui.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: John Clark Subject: emergency boot floppy documentation Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I am looking for documentation on creating an emergency boot floppy. It seems to me that I read how to do this somewhere (thought it was in the handbook). I have grep-ed the handbook, searched questions@freebsd.org, man-k the manual pages, etc. but can find no info on creating an emergency boot floppy. Please reply if you know where this info it located. Thank you; --John [jrclark@indy.net] From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 16:03:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA02471 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 16:03:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netpc.com (root@netpc.com [206.7.246.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA02438 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 16:03:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by netpc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA23046; Mon, 27 May 1996 18:10:23 -0500 Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 18:10:21 -0500 (CDT) From: root To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: BBS's and Menu System Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know of any bbs programs for freebsd? does anyone know of any good menu systems for use in shell accounts? thanks, ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Full Service Internet Provider| NETPC | Contact Us By Email Custom Web Page Development | Long Grove,IL | ================== Network Consulting | (847)540-6209 Sales | sales@netpc.com Complete Business Solutions |(847)540-6035 Fax & Data| sysadmin@netpc.com | Monday-Friday 8-5pm | webmaster@netpc.com Get Connected To I-NET Today! | Sat 8-12 Sun 12-4 | support@netpc.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 17:01:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA10888 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:01:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA10878 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA09637; Mon, 27 May 1996 16:58:29 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605272358.QAA09637@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: login name To: fqueries@jraynard.demon.co.uk (James Raynard) Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 16:58:28 -0700 (MST) Cc: malvin@webquest.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605251503.PAA10452@jraynard.demon.co.uk> from "James Raynard" at May 25, 96 03:03:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > 1. Does FreeBSD allows us to override the maximum of 8 characters login > > name? If yes, how? > > Edit the line in /usr/src/include/utmp.h that says > > #define UT_NAMESIZE 8 > > and do 'make world' in /usr/src > > > 2. Is it possible to use a combination of upper or lower case as your > > login name? If yes, how and how do you send mail to them? > > Possible, but not a good idea. From passwd(5):- > > The login name must never begin with a hyphen (``-''); also, it is > strongly suggested that neither upper-case characters or dots (``.'') be > part of the name, as this tends to confuse mailers. Anyone have an unmodified source tree from a dist (other than on CDROM)? It seems like we want to be able to have sysctl variables that are "user space only", and use one of these for setting the size without recompiling all the software. Without a full user source tree, I can't really tell what does or doesn't care about the size, at least not easily. Anyone want to hack this? It'd probably be pretty easy. Also, while you are at it, anyone want to take a look at making a pwverify() command that verifies based on the apropriate method so that XDM and family don't need mods for this sort of change? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 17:07:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA11327 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:07:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA11322 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:07:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA09692; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:05:53 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605280005.RAA09692@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Help To: hey@tuns.ca (Yingjun (Ian) He) Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 17:05:53 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199605261938.MAA11110@freefall.freebsd.org> from "Yingjun (Ian) He" at May 26, 96 04:38:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have been running FreeBSD 2.0 on my pentium system for 2 > years. Today, I cannot boot the system. The erro messages > are: > > /dev/rsd0a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY > Automatic file system chek failed ... help! > ... > ... > ncr0 targ 0?: ERROR (80:1:0) (e0/e0) @ (18b77c:860b0000) > ncr0: restart (fatal error). > ncr0 targ 0: COMMAND FAILED (9 ff ff) @f019ce60. > device bad > Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - > Rebooting ... > > That's all I have on my screen and the system halt. When I tried to reset > the system again, I got the same problem. > > During the bootting of the system, I have no chance to interrupt it to > do anything. > > Please advice me what should I do in order to access the hadr disk to get > all my files out if the system have to reinstalled. Try -s at the boot prompt. If you can't get a boot prompt (it may be that old), then you will need to boot off the emergency boot floppy to fsck /. If you didn't make one, you will need to make one (or get someone to make one for you -- I don't have any systems that old that aren't 1.x, sorry). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 17:11:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA11611 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA11605 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:11:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA09754; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:09:42 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605280009.RAA09754@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: objective-C runtime system of gcc 2.7.2 doesn't work on FreeBSD? To: apl@cs.hut.fi (Antti-Pekka Liedes) Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 17:09:42 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Antti-Pekka Liedes" at May 26, 96 10:57:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I already posted about this to comp.lang.objective-c, but as this is > probably an OS related problem, I decided to ask about it in here too. > > The objective-C runtime system of gcc 2.7.2 produces a floating point > exception in sendmsg.c line 210 (__builtin_return). This doesn't happen > with gcc 2.6.3, only with 2.7.2, on both FreeBSD 2.1.0R and 2.2 960501 > snapshot. > > I know there is a similar problem with gcc 2.7.2 on Linux. It is fixed > there by either linking with -lieee or changing libc to a newer version. > But what could be a solution on FreeBSD? Manually disable the FP exception causing the problem by calling the fpsetmask() function. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 17:15:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA11942 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:15:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA11937 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:15:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA09768; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:12:55 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605280012.RAA09768@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Help!!!! Win95 cratering To: allred@mail.pernet.net (Clyde V. Allred) Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 17:12:55 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199605270347.WAA21455@jennifer.pernet.net> from "Clyde V. Allred" at May 26, 96 10:40:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > We have installed FreeBSD and then installed Win95. Our Win95 gets to a > certain point in the loadup and then resets the computer. Could there be > an interupt problem or what could be causing Win95 to crater. Safe Mode > works as well as MS-DOS mode. Strictly a Win95 driver bug. Are you using an IDE CDROM? Are you installing as an upgrade on a Win32S system? Disable 32 bit disk I/O to quit tickling the probable IDE CDROM bug. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 17:21:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA12516 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA12509 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA09795; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:19:35 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605280019.RAA09795@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Multiproc & Raid support To: fmtel@micronet.fr Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 17:19:35 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@Freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "fmtel@micronet.fr" at May 27, 96 09:27:18 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@Freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hello, > We plan to install a DEC Prioris HX5100MP under > FreeBSD. > > Before doing it, we need to know if FreeBSD supports : > 2) multiprocessing ? Yes; nearly ready for integration into the main source tree, it is seperately available. Subscribe to the freebsd-smp for detailed information, mostly useful only to developers. > 1) multiprocessor servers (up to 4 Pentium 100) ? Currently, set for 2 procesors (1 BP, 1 AP). Moving to 1 BP and 'n' AP is relatively trivial, but currently would require small hacks in 3 locations. BP/AP is Intel terminology for the Intel MP Spec 1.1; the box must comply with the Intel Spec for the APIC probe to succeed in desteing processors other than the boot processor. > 3) Raid 0+1or 5 with Mylex monocanal EISA Narrow RAID controller ? There is support for the Compaq RAID SCSI controller, which has not yet been integrated into the tree. I don't know if the Mylex controller is supported or not. If the RAID is transparent to the actual driver, then it probably is, though it wants a Mylex driver which may or may not be supported (I can't answer that one). External RAID arrays work without modification. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 17:46:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA14214 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:46:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DGS.dgsys.com (root@dgs.dgsys.com [204.97.64.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA14209 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from justine.elastica.com by DGS.dgsys.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AB18946; Mon, 27 May 1996 20:43:29 -0400 Received: (from robert@localhost) by justine.elastica.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA01576; Tue, 28 May 1996 16:46:06 -0400 (EDT) Newsgroups: comp.unix.solaris,comp.protocols.ppp Subject: Re: Problems (caused by input errors?) Cc: dp@acn.purdue.edu, questions@freebsd.org Distribution: inet References: From: Robert Nicholson Lines: 18 X-Newsreader: September Gnus v0.79/Emacs 19.30 Date: 28 May 1996 16:46:05 -0400 In-Reply-To: Robert Nicholson's message of 27 May 1996 19:38:43 -0400 Message-Id: Posted-To: comp.unix.solaris,comp.protocols.ppp Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted as well. It turns out that my ppp problems are due to input errors. I'm not getting any input packets. Or at least every one results in an error according to netstat -in I managed to find the patch necessary for x86 and snoop to coperate. and now snoop is telling me everything about output packets but I'm seeing no input packets at all.. What is the cause of seeing no input packets? The RXD light on the modem always flickers it's just that they end up as errors. Any ideas on how I can further diagnose this? -- "Under the circumstances I will sit down." (PGP key: send email with Subject: request pgp key) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 17:53:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA14629 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA14624 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:53:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA09867; Mon, 27 May 1996 17:51:33 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605280051.RAA09867@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Kernel make problems To: dave@polarbear (David Popkin) Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 17:51:33 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199605271951.PAA02844@polarbear> from "David Popkin" at May 27, 96 03:51:12 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hello, I received this error at the end of make'ing a new kernel > under FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE system: > > loading kernel > kern_sysctl.o: Undefined symbol `_hw_float' referenced from text segment > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > > This is my conf file: [ ... ] Change: > #device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr To: # THIS IS NOT OPTIONAL, READ THE "LINT" FILE FOR DETAILS! device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 19:15:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA21177 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 19:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from starfire.mn.org (root@starfire.skypoint.net [199.86.32.187]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA21170 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 19:15:25 -0700 (PDT) From: john@starfire.mn.org Received: (from john@localhost) by starfire.mn.org (8.6.12/1.1) id VAA08287 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 27 May 1996 21:16:25 -0500 Message-Id: <199605280216.VAA08287@starfire.mn.org> Subject: groff question To: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 21:16:25 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Please reply to me directly, since I don't subscribe to this list (can't keep up...) Can I get groff to produce landscape PS output? If so, how? Thanks! Please reply to me directly, since I don't subscribe to this list (can't keep up...) John Lind, Starfire Consulting Services E-mail: john@starfire.MN.ORG USnail: PO Box 17247, Mpls MN 55417 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 19:18:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA21391 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 19:18:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA21382 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 19:18:00 -0700 (PDT) From: john@starfire.mn.org Received: from starfire.mn.org (root@starfire.skypoint.net [199.86.32.187]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id TAA02193 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 19:17:40 -0700 Received: (from john@localhost) by starfire.mn.org (8.6.12/1.1) id VAA08299 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 27 May 1996 21:18:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199605280218.VAA08299@starfire.mn.org> Subject: printed form tool? To: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 21:18:34 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Please reply to me directly, as I don't subscribe to this list... Are there tools for generating printed forms, like for paper record keeping? Thanks! Please reply to me directly, as I don't subscribe to this list... John Lind, Starfire Consulting Services E-mail: john@starfire.MN.ORG USnail: PO Box 17247, Mpls MN 55417 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 19:36:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA22656 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 19:36:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from idt.liberty.com (root@idt.liberty.com [199.89.140.119]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA22641 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 19:35:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from IDT.liberty.com (ppp188.liberty.com [199.89.140.157]) by idt.liberty.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA04177 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 18:34:47 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960528023151.00665e60@idt.liberty.com> X-Sender: fadorn19@idt.liberty.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 19:31:51 -0700 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Fred Adorno Subject: User ppp Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello everyone, I have been having a bear of a time trying to get a script to work, but to no success. It works fine when I do it manually. When I try to use lynx, it stays idle indefinitely looking for the default start up page. This is what netstat reports: Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 199.89.140.110 UGc 4 34 tun0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 5 lo0 199.89.140.17 127.0.0.1 UH 0 5 lo0 199.89.140.110 199.89.140.17 UH 5 0 tun0 Any suggestions? My ISP assigns my address and it is never the same one. Theirs seems to vary for each log in as well. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 20:16:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA25439 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 20:16:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from precipice.shockwave.com (precipice.shockwave.com [171.69.108.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA25434 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 20:16:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shockwave.com (localhost.shockwave.com [127.0.0.1]) by precipice.shockwave.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA03676 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 20:15:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199605280315.UAA03676@precipice.shockwave.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: how to format/label a brand new disk? Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 20:15:45 -0700 From: Paul Traina Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ------- Forwarded Message Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 15:55:00 -0700 From: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) To: INET96 T1 and T2 Subject: how to format a disk so, how do i format/label and partition a new hard drive? i kinda want something like q540s|QUANTUM LIGHTNING 730S 241E:\ :dt=SCSI:ty=winchester:se#512:nt#64:ns#32:nc#699:sf: \ :pg#1431552:og#0:tg=4.2BSD:bg#4096:fg#512: but have yet to sort out how to get the disk label written. randy ------- End of Forwarded Message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 20:34:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA26462 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 20:34:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA26449 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 20:34:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fred.nwinfo.net ([205.139.116.3]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.7.5/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with SMTP id UAA19848 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 20:33:55 -0700 (PDT) X-ROUTED: Mon, 27 May 1996 20:34:22 -0500 Received: from nw09.nwinfo.net [205.139.116.19] by fred.nwinfo.net with smtp id BECBAHCG ; Mon, 27 May 1996 20:33:08 -0500 Message-ID: <31AA7497.6DC8@fred.nwinfo.net> Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 20:35:51 -0700 From: Forbes Mercy Organization: Internet of Central Washington X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b3 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Free BSD as a server Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am running a small but rapidly growing ISP. We have been running a DOS based system but are ready to join the real world. We have looked at BSDI commercial and it looks easy to setup. Does Free BSD offer the same programs? Is it difficult, or should I say very time consuming to configure Free BSD components? Whats your opinion? I'm looking at LINUX also. I'd appreciate your input. Forbes (Sysop@nwinfo.net) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 20:57:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA27819 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 20:57:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.Stanford.EDU (mailhub.Stanford.EDU [36.21.0.128]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA27814 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 20:57:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by mailhub.Stanford.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA19613; Mon, 27 May 1996 20:57:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 20:57:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: fqueries@jraynard.demo.co.uk cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, andrsn@hoover.stanford.edu Subject: Re: PPP Server Question In-Reply-To: <01I57O4N2O1U007IVP@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 27 May 1996, James Raynard wrote: > It's probably worth mentioning that "options GATEWAY" won't be around > for much longer - in fact it's already disappeared from -current. The > approved method is to put > > gateway=YES > > in /etc/sysconfig. This shouldn't cause you any problems at the > moment, though. > > > The ppp connection works fine, and I can ping the office machine > > from home and vice versa. I have an ip address to use for the home > > machine (and another one if I need it). What I can't do is ping > > or reach any host beyond the office computer from the computer at > > home. > > This usually means that everything's set up right, *except* for your > home computer not having a default route set. It does have a default route set--to the office machine: Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 36.33.0.163 UGSc 0 300 tun0 36.33.0.75 36.33.0.163 UGHS 1 0 tun0 36.33.0.163 36.33.0.75 UH 1 7 tun0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 0 lo0 If I try to change the default route to the default the office machine uses (36.33.0.1), it says there's no route to that host. > [Cue simplistic explanation - there are three possible decisions that > BSD networking software can make when deciding where to send a > packet:- > > "It's addressed to me - I'll keep it". > > "It's addressed to a computer that's directly connected to me - I'll > send it straight to them." > > "Don't know how to reach them - I'll send it over my default route to > someone else who might know". I think it does this. The problem is that the office machine then does not send it further. > If it doesn't have a default route, it throws it away. So you could > ping your office machine, because it was directly connected by the PPP > link, but your home computer didn't know what to do when you wanted to > reach another host, as there wasn't a default route to send it over.] > > You can get PPP to do set a default route up for you when it makes the > connection. If you're using user-mode ppp, your home computer's > ppp.linkup file should look like this:- > > MYADDR: > add 0 0 HISADDR It does, but since the ppp.conf file won't dial the modem and I have to use terminal mode, the ppp.linkup file doesn't seem to get read, so I've been putting the default route in by hand, or actually with a script. > For kernel-mode pppd, add a line saying > > defaultroute > > to your home computer's "options" file. > > > It seemed from the handbook that running gated would be the right > > thing to do, so I installed it and changed sysconfig accordingly, > > turning off routed. > > No offence intended, but gated always makes me think of an eminent > Victorian politician's opinion on the Dreyfuss affair:- > > "Only three people have ever really understood this case. One is now > dead. Another is now insane. The third is myself." > > > > "Unfortunately, I appear to have forgotten most of the details!" > > Sorry about that. Anyway, my advice is not to bother with any kind of > routing daemons, unless you're doing something like setting up a > dedicated router for an ISP. > > If your office computer can talk to the outside world, and has IP > forwarding enabled, setting a default route on your home computer > *should* be all that's needed. Well, it doesn't seem to be working. There must be a piece missing. Any other ideas? Thanks, Annelise > -- > James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland > jraynard@dial.pipex.com > james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 22:08:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA01101 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 22:08:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tulpi.interconnect.com.au (root@tulpi.interconnect.com.au [192.189.54.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA01096 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 22:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ahill@localhost) by tulpi.interconnect.com.au id PAA20511 (8.7.4/IDA-1.6); Tue, 28 May 1996 15:07:58 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 15:07:56 +1000 (EST) From: Anthony Hill To: Forbes Mercy cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Free BSD as a server In-Reply-To: <31AA7497.6DC8@fred.nwinfo.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 27 May 1996, Forbes Mercy wrote: > I am running a small but rapidly growing ISP. We have been running a DOS > based system but are ready to join the real world. We have looked at > BSDI commercial and it looks easy to setup. Does Free BSD offer the same > programs? Is it difficult, or should I say very time consuming to > configure Free BSD components? Whats your opinion? I'm looking at LINUX > also. I'd appreciate your input. > Forbes > (Sysop@nwinfo.net) FreeBSD makes a very good ISP platform - it is very similar to BSDI, and there are very few packages that are avalible for one that wont run on the other. In my opinion, the biggest trap for the new Sys Admin is not how hard it is to setup servers under FreeBSD, but the potential security risks that exist on a system that has so many servers enabled and operational by default. eg. FTP, telnet, finger etc. are all enabled and configured by default. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 27 23:53:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA06411 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 27 May 1996 23:53:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from paaltjens.si.hhs.nl (pp@[145.52.80.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA06405 for ; Mon, 27 May 1996 23:53:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from si.hhs.nl by paaltjens.si.hhs.nl id <21043-0@paaltjens.si.hhs.nl>; Tue, 28 May 1996 08:53:38 +0200 Received: from hoornik (localhost) by hoornik.si.hhs.nl (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA01700; Tue, 28 May 1996 08:53:20 --100 Message-Id: <31AAA2DF.69F3@si.hhs.nl> Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 08:53:19 +0200 From: Jeroen Schellart X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.3 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Appletalk X-Url: http://www.cdrom.com/titles/bsdbook.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does FreeBSD have support for the Appletalkt protocol. I recently got an old MAC-laser. The serial port only support a transfer rate of 9600 Bps. A little bit slow for a big postscript file. The apple-talk is a bit faster. So I would like to know if there is a way to use this port? Jeroen From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 00:34:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA08831 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 00:34:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from coastline.net (coastline.net [199.60.218.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA08823 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 00:34:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alu (van-as-08a14.direct.ca [204.174.249.158]) by coastline.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA17977 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 00:37:54 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960528073343.00c28530@coastline.net> X-Sender: rastis@coastline.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 00:33:43 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Rastislav Seffer Subject: Sharing Internet over PPP Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello there, I would like to find out if the following is possible. I want to connect six computers over a modem line using PPP. Each computer should have its own IP address and the internet server (FreeBSD what else) should be able to handle the packet forwarding. Is such a thing possible? Rasti From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 01:13:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA10119 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 01:13:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zruty.comnets.rwth-aachen.de (zruty.comnets.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.4.16]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA10114 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 01:13:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smeagol.comnets.rwth-aachen.de (smeagol.comnets.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.4.136]) by zruty.comnets.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.12/COMNETS-1.2) with ESMTP id KAA27185; Tue, 28 May 1996 10:11:43 +0200 Received: (ost@localhost) by smeagol.comnets.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.12/COMNETS-1.0) id KAA23103; Tue, 28 May 1996 10:10:36 +0200 Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 10:10:36 +0200 Message-Id: <199605280810.KAA23103@smeagol.comnets.rwth-aachen.de> From: Martin Ostermann To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Ist there a way to easily reconstruct partition/slice tables? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Attribution: step Reply-to: Martin Ostermann Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, last night I cleared the first few blocks on my FreeBSD disk. It had nothing particular important on it, which wasn't backup'd, but contained some configuration data that would take me a while to restore. Is it possible to automatically identify the beginning and endings of the UFS file systems, and thus construct a new partition table or label? It doesn't need to be perfect, just enough to copy the relevant information. Thanks for any hints, Martin -- Martin Ostermann | mailto:ost@comnets.rwth-aachen.de Communication Networks | http://www.comnets.rwth-aachen.de/~ost Aachen University of Technology | phoneto:++49/241/807917 Germany | faxto:++49/241/8890378 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 03:01:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA15031 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 03:01:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fox (fox.slip.net [204.160.88.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA15026 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 03:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slip.net.slip.net [204.162.173.211] by fox with smtp (Exim 0.42 #4) id E0uOLZC-00065E-00; Tue, 28 May 1996 02:59:54 -0700 Message-ID: <31AACF32.9E8@slip.net> Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 03:02:26 -0700 From: Reza Latjuba Reply-To: rogha@slip.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b3Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: About FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi... I would like to know whether the software intended for SUN Solaris can be used and installed in FreeBSD 2.1....I ask this question because The architecture behind SUN Solaris and FreeBSD based on the same architecture... Thanks..... Regards Reza Latjuba From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 04:51:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA20254 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 04:51:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA20229 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 04:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uOLmq-000QZ4C; Tue, 28 May 96 12:14 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA23263; Tue, 28 May 1996 11:55:43 +0200 Message-Id: <199605280955.LAA23263@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: Missing o/s? To: Amooooo@aol.com Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 11:55:43 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <960527130652_121740719@emout13.mail.aol.com> from "Amooooo@aol.com" at May 27, 96 01:06:54 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amooooo@aol.com writes: > > I have problem after FreeBSD was installed. At boot up the system shows a > missing opertating system. What could this problem be? You have done the install incorrectly. Of course, if you give me more details, I can give you more suggestions. See the accompanying message for a few global suggestions. How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update 7 May 1996. This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"**). In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. I'm taking the viewpoint of the newcomer here: we have other ways of handling arrogant hackers :-) When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, please remember: 1. Nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message, so please specify a subject. "FreeBSD problem" or "Can't get this to work" aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, most people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. Please try to format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. 4. Please don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 5. Please specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: - If you get error messages, don't say "I get error messages", say (for example) "I get the error message 'No route to host'". - If your system panics, don't say "My system panicked", say (for example) "my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'". - If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. 6. If you don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. For example, let's assume you know the answer to the following question. You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ** Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for this activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 05:24:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA21825 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 05:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fly.HiWAAY.net (root@fly.HiWAAY.net [204.214.4.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA21820 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 05:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from max4-165.HiWAAY.net by fly.HiWAAY.net; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/21Sep95-1003PM) id AA19405; Tue, 28 May 1996 07:23:27 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <31AAA2DF.69F3@si.hhs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 07:10:57 -0500 To: Jeroen Schellart , questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: Appletalk Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 1:53 AM -0500 5/28/96, Jeroen Schellart wrote: >Does FreeBSD have support for the Appletalkt protocol. >I recently got an old MAC-laser. The serial port only support a transfer >rate of 9600 Bps. A little bit slow for a big postscript file. The >apple-talk is a bit faster. So I would like to know if there is a way to >use this port? I think your solution will be to increase the serial port speed on the LaserWriter from 9600 to some other value. Am quite sure it can be done (at least 56k) but don't know how. I'd net surf looking for "Don Lancaster" as he has written much over the years on hacking LaserWriters and Postscript. -- David Kelly N4HHE, n4hhe@amsat.org, dkelly@hiwaay.net ============================================================= To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. - Thomas Edison From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 05:33:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA22317 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 05:33:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix1.ism.com.br (root@unix1.ism.com.br [200.255.211.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA22310 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 05:33:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clpc1.compuland.com.br ([200.255.96.22]) by unix1.ism.com.br (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA13611 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 09:33:38 -0300 Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 09:33:38 -0300 Message-Id: <199605281233.JAA13611@unix1.ism.com.br> X-Sender: compland@ism.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: compland@ism.com.br (Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) Subject: Web analysis tools Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi: Can someone point me some web analysis tools ? I remember one that is used in a university somewhere, it's output is html format and is updated everyday by a cron job. But I can't find it anymore. :( Thanks! Helio. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 05:39:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA22554 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 05:39:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from quebecweb.com (quebecweb.com [204.101.227.117]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA22549 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 05:39:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by quebecweb.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id IAA21879; Tue, 28 May 1996 08:00:50 -0400 Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 08:00:50 -0400 Message-Id: <199605281200.IAA21879@quebecweb.com> To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2.3.7 BETA X-Personal_name: Mario Verville From: admin@quebecweb.com Subject: Direct mail program Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I run FreeBSD 2.0 on a PC machine. I look for a perl or sh program that let a file being mailed to a recipient (xxx@www.zzz) This must be a file because i take a string coming from the web and put it in a temporary file. I print a copy of the file before to send it by fax, but cannot send it by mail because of the CTRL-D that is necessary to send mail. I need a perl of sh routine that mail the file to a recipient Mario Verville From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 06:08:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA25478 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 06:08:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA25462 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 06:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jolt.eng.umd.edu (jolt.eng.umd.edu [129.2.102.5]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id GAA04611 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 06:03:17 -0700 Received: from maryann.eng.umd.edu (maryann.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.209]) by jolt.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA22219; Tue, 28 May 1996 08:57:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by maryann.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA22252; Tue, 28 May 1996 08:57:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 08:57:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@maryann.eng.umd.edu To: john@starfire.mn.org cc: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: printed form tool? In-Reply-To: <199605280218.VAA08299@starfire.mn.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 27 May 1996 john@starfire.mn.org wrote: > Please reply to me directly, as I don't subscribe to this list... > > Are there tools for generating printed forms, like for paper > record keeping? Thanks! > > Please reply to me directly, as I don't subscribe to this list... Well, yes. If I needed to do that, I'd generate the data using awk (most likely), and have it put out code with the correct troff (groff) tbl stuff around it, so that it would print as tabular material. I've done that, the output can get to be very good looking. > > John Lind, Starfire Consulting Services > E-mail: john@starfire.MN.ORG USnail: PO Box 17247, Mpls MN 55417 > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 06:14:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA25924 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 06:14:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apollo.is.co.za (apollo.is.co.za [196.4.160.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA25918 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 06:14:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from admin.is.co.za (admin.is.co.za [196.23.0.9]) by apollo.is.co.za (8.7.5/8.7.5/IShub#2) with ESMTP id PAA26996; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:14:29 +0200 (GMT) Received: (from robin@localhost) by admin.is.co.za (8.7.5/8.7.5/ISsubsidiary#1) id PAA20508; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:14:27 +0200 (GMT) From: Robin Lunn Message-Id: <199605281314.PAA20508@admin.is.co.za> Subject: Re: Direct mail program To: admin@quebecweb.com Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 15:14:26 +0200 (GMT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605281200.IAA21879@quebecweb.com> from "admin@quebecweb.com" at May 28, 96 08:00:50 am X-Organisation: The Internet Solution (Pty) Ltd. X-Phone: +27-11-4475566; Fax: +27-11-4475567 Reply-To: robin@is.co.za X-AIDAT-Member: See http://www.aidat.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk admin@quebecweb.com wrote: > I need a perl of sh routine that mail the file to a recipient. /bin/cat file | /usr/bin/mail -s "Subject here" user@foobar.com or if you have the message in a perl variable: open(MAIL,"| /usr/bin/mail -s \"$subject\" $address") && print MAIL $message && close(MAIL); or something like that... -- _ __ | Only my ideas here unless I say otherwise... ' ) ) / | (BeamJack@IRC) /--' ____/___o __ | "Nondum amabam, et amare amabam... quaerebam / \_(_) /_) (__/) )_ | quid amarem, amans amare." - St Augustine From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 06:28:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA28118 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 06:28:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ofelia (ofelia.lsi.usp.br [143.107.3.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA28062 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 06:28:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rita.usp.br (rita.lsi.usp.br [143.107.3.218]) by ofelia (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA09735 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 10:19:33 -0300 Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 10:19:33 -0300 From: Mario Donato Marino Message-Id: <199605281319.KAA09735@ofelia> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: gprof, pixie, -gp Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I would like to use gprof, pixie, gprof and others. To use this programs, I must compile my programs with the -gp or -p option. These options requires some libraries like mcrt0.o and c_p. Does someone have these libraries for FreeBSD 2.0 <<== ? Thanks, Mario From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 06:37:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA29693 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 06:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eac.iafrica.com (slipper101150.iafrica.com [196.7.101.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA29685 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 06:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rnordier@localhost) by eac.iafrica.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA00426; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:35:20 +0200 From: Robert Nordier Message-Id: <199605281335.PAA00426@eac.iafrica.com> Subject: Re: Direct mail program To: admin@quebecweb.com Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 15:35:18 +0200 (SAT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605281200.IAA21879@quebecweb.com> from "admin@quebecweb.com" at May 28, 96 08:00:50 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk admin@quebecweb.com wrote: > > I run FreeBSD 2.0 on a PC machine. > > I look for a perl or sh program that let a file > being mailed to a recipient (xxx@www.zzz) > > This must be a file because i take a string coming from the web > and put it in a temporary file. I print a copy of the file > before to send it by fax, > but cannot send it by mail because of the CTRL-D that is > necessary to send mail. > > I need a perl of sh routine that mail the file > to a recipient Isn't the solution simpler than you suppose? mail xxx@www.zzz ; Tue, 28 May 1996 06:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id PAA26212; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:39:24 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (PAA01600); Tue, 28 May 1996 15:40:32 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199605281540.PAA01600@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: BBS's and Menu System To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 15:40:31 +0000 (GMT) Cc: root@netpc.com In-Reply-To: from "root" at May 27, 96 06:10:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > does anyone know of any good menu systems for use in shell accounts? 1) You can use the (pd)ksh's and bash's select command to generate simple menus, or 2) Get the dialog utility (or write your own command with libdialog - as the sysinstall command) and make little shell scripts to generate a menu. -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 07:10:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA02168 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 07:10:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from longstreet.larc.nasa.gov (longstreet.larc.nasa.gov [128.155.25.82]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA02156 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 07:10:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from branson@localhost) by longstreet.larc.nasa.gov (8.6.11/8.6.11) id KAA26161; Tue, 28 May 1996 10:12:56 -0400 From: Branson Matheson Message-Id: <199605281412.KAA26161@longstreet.larc.nasa.gov> Subject: Re: BBS's and Menu System To: zgabor@CoDe.hu (Gabor Zahemszky) Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 10:12:55 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: <199605281540.PAA01600@CoDe.CoDe.hu> from "Gabor Zahemszky" at May 28, 96 03:40:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > does anyone know of any good menu systems for use in shell accounts? > > 1) You can use the (pd)ksh's and bash's select command to generate simple > menus, or Better yet.. look at the mshell utility in the packages directory. It sounds like just what you are looking for -branson -- ======================================================================== branson matheson | branson@widomaker.com Ferguson SysAdmin | http://widomaker.com/~branson From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 08:13:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA05850 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 08:13:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from epprod.elsevier.co.uk (epprod.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA05834 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 08:13:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by epprod.elsevier.co.uk (8.6.13/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA21622 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 16:11:59 +0100 Received: from cadair.elsevier.co.uk (actually host cadair) by snowdon with SMTP (PP); Tue, 28 May 1996 16:12:16 +0100 Received: (from dpr@localhost) by cadair.elsevier.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA01960; Tue, 28 May 1996 16:11:46 +0100 From: Paul Richards Message-Id: <199605281511.QAA01960@cadair.elsevier.co.uk> Subject: Re: Er... how long To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 16:11:45 +0100 (BST) Cc: branson@longstreet.larc.nasa.gov, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199605250334.UAA02610@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at May 24, 96 08:34:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Terry Lambert who said > > Actually, threading could be done using an additional header and > a slight mod to Majordomo. The list data waould then need to be > indexed, but that's no big deal. Anyone know of a threaded mail reader? Made a really stupid mistake Friday, re-subscribed to all the FreeBSD lists I've been ignoring for the last few months and came in this morning to 1500 messages :-) A threaded mail reader would be really usefull. -- Paul Richards. Originative Solutions Ltd. (Netcraft Ltd. contractor) Elsevier Science TIS online journal project. Email: p.richards@elsevier.co.uk Phone: 0370 462071 (Mobile), +44 (0)1865 843155 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 09:00:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA09165 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 09:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from felix.iupui.edu (root@felix.iupui.edu [134.68.45.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA09158 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 09:00:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from corona (jrclark@indy2.indy.net [199.3.65.7]) by felix.iupui.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA00892 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 10:59:46 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 10:59:46 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960528110438.0030d694@felix.iupui.edu> X-Sender: jrclark@felix.iupui.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: John Clark Subject: kernel file permissions Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I was looking at the default kernel permissions... Is there any need to have them so open? Why should there be read and execute permissions for the "other" group? I suppose, you could reverse that question on me: "why not let everyone read and execute it?" Anyway, it seems to work great like this: -r-------- 1 root wheel 705521 May 21 12:33 kernel -r-------- 1 root wheel 1139171 May 18 12:15 kernel.gen Call me anal, but this seems much more desirable. If someone knows of a reason why the above permissions may be bad (ie. different run levels?), please let me know -- but it works just fine as far as I can tell. Thanks again; --John [jrclark@indy.net] From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 09:07:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA09709 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 09:07:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA09685 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 09:07:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uswgco2.uswc.uswest.com (uswgco2.uswest.com [206.196.133.74]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id IAA05877 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 08:44:15 -0700 Received: (from smap@localhost) by uswgco2.uswc.uswest.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id JAA13534 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 09:43:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from egate.mnet.uswest.com(151.116.23.138) by uswgco2.uswc.uswest.com via smap (V1.3) id sma013417; Tue May 28 09:41:14 1996 Received: from easthub (easthub.mnet.uswest.com [151.117.26.86]) by egate.mnet.uswest.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA21454 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 09:41:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by easthub.mnet.uswest.com (M-Net Hub.951228) Received: by acs.uswest.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA04613; Tue, 28 May 1996 10:41:11 -0500 Received: from astro.acs.uswest.com by acs.uswest.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA04367; Tue, 28 May 1996 10:39:38 -0500 Received: by astro.acs.uswest.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA25562; Tue, 28 May 1996 10:39:28 -0500 From: ptroot@uswest.com (Paul T. Root) Message-Id: <199605281539.KAA25562@astro.acs.uswest.com> Subject: Re: Er... how long To: p.richards@elsevier.co.uk (Paul Richards) Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 10:39:27 -0500 (CDT) Cc: terry@lambert.org, branson@longstreet.larc.nasa.gov, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199605281511.QAA01960@cadair.elsevier.co.uk> from "Paul Richards" at May 28, 96 04:11:45 pm X-Organization: !nterprise Networking Services X-Phone: (612) 663-1979 X-Fax: (612) 663-8030 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 200 S. 5th St., Suite 1100 X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55402 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In a previous message, Paul Richards said: > > In reply to Terry Lambert who said > > > > Actually, threading could be done using an additional header and > > a slight mod to Majordomo. The list data waould then need to be > > indexed, but that's no big deal. > > Anyone know of a threaded mail reader? Made a really stupid mistake Friday, > re-subscribed to all the FreeBSD lists I've been ignoring for the last few > months and came in this morning to 1500 messages :-) > > A threaded mail reader would be really usefull. Both elm and Netscape will thread your mail. In elm, sort by subject. Paul. -- Paul T. Root - USWEST !NTERPRISE Networking Service ptroot@uswest.com Entropy isn't what it used to be. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 09:09:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA10036 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 09:09:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from central.picker.com (central.picker.com [144.54.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA10028 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 09:09:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by central.picker.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0uOR6e-0004s9C; Tue, 28 May 96 11:54 EDT Received: from elmer.picker.com ([144.54.52.5]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09235; Tue, 28 May 96 11:54:42 EDT Received: by elmer.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA03858; Tue, 28 May 1996 12:00:08 -0400 From: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) Message-Id: <199605281600.MAA03858@elmer.picker.com> Subject: Re: Er... how long To: p.richards@elsevier.co.uk (Paul Richards) Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 12:00:08 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199605281511.QAA01960@cadair.elsevier.co.uk> from "Paul Richards" at May 28, 96 04:11:45 pm Reply-To: rhh@ct.picker.com Organization: Picker International, CT Division X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Anyone know of a threaded mail reader? Made a really stupid mistake Friday, >re-subscribed to all the FreeBSD lists I've been ignoring for the last few >months and came in this morning to 1500 messages :-) > >A threaded mail reader would be really usefull. ELM works well for me. I'd recommend it. You can limit by subject, from, or to fields. However, this won't completely do what you want as e-mail from the lists often have multiple mailing list addresses in the To: and Cc: fields, but it'll get you pretty close. Another useful feature it has is the ability to let you sort messages by a number of criteria (Subject, Date, Sender, etc.) so you can more easily follow threads in heavily trafficed newsgroups. Incidentally, ELM also comes with "filter" (a sendmail .forward filter program) which allows you to filter out mail from different lists into different mail file folders so you don't have to deal with this manually. It's similar to procmail (so I've heard), but allegedly procmail is more capable. FWIW, here's a sample portion of my ~/.elm/filter-rules: if (sender = "owner-current@FreeBSD.org") then save /home/rhh/Mail/fbsdcurr if (sender = "owner-questions@FreeBSD.org") then save /home/rhh/Mail/fbsdques ... always leave Randall Hopper rhh@ct.picker.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 09:18:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA11185 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 09:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.bsu.minsk.by (gw.bsu.minsk.by [193.232.92.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA10438 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 09:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gw.bsu.minsk.by (sendmail 8.6.6/8.6.8) id m0uOSNx-000301C; Tue, 28 May 96 17:16 Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 17:16:44 +0000 () From: Alexander Olevanov To: questions@FreeBSD.Org Subject: Question about signal 11 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.Org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Colleagues, I have a problem with Xterm when it is started by startx. It exits with "memory fault" message and the system prints, that the process exited on signal 11. That is fragmentation error. If I run it as "xdm -nodaemon", everything is going well. I have a system with 8 Mb RAM. Could anybody tell me how should I recompile kernel to avoid such a problem. It concerns not only Xterm, but for example FWTK FTP daemon, when it begins to work. I think there is something wrong with memory allocation. As I tried on 16 Mb RAM system, everything was good, also GENERIC kernel on 8Mb worked good too, which looks strange at all, because the current kernel is much smaller. Thanks in advance. A.Yu. Olevanov From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 11:11:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA18939 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 11:11:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from enteract.com (root@enteract.com [206.54.252.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA18929 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 11:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by enteract.com (8.7.5/8.7.6) id NAA16509; Tue, 28 May 1996 13:11:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 13:11:00 -0500 (CDT) From: dcastle To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: booting takes forever Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just installed FreeBSD 2.1 on a 486 box, and I'm having trouble with it hanging during bootup. It gets to this point: add net default: gateway 204.119.47.50 (204.119.47.50 is the default gateway used by the entire office.) It hangs on the above line for probably 5-10 minutes. Eventually it will boot up, and the default gateway DOES work. I've also noticed that if I ^C at the point where it hangs, it continues booting again until it tries to start sendmail. It then hangs at sendmail until I ^C again. Then I finally get the login prompt. Why the grueling bootup? Thanx in advance for any help you might be able to throw my way. Chris Odom From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 11:13:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA19105 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 11:13:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wcarchive.cdrom.com (wcarchive.cdrom.com [165.113.58.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA19100 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 11:13:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arioch.uoregon.edu (arioch.uoregon.edu [128.223.36.141]) by wcarchive.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA07284 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 11:13:30 -0700 Received: (from jl@localhost) by arioch.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA00499; Tue, 28 May 1996 11:11:35 -0700 Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 11:11:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Joshua Lackey To: freebsd-questions@wcarchive.cdrom.com Subject: diskless: Sun boot from FreeBSD Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to get an old Sun 3/50 to boot diskless off of my FreeBSD server. Everything works okay except mounting the swap file. The Sun expects to mount a file /export/client/swap, where swap is the swap file, and from the FreeBSD diskless documents, FreeBSD will export a directory .../swap and inside that directory is the actual swap file. (When the Sun tries to mount the actual swap file /export/client/swap, I get a: panic: nfs_boot: mountd swap, error=72 Where /usr/include/sys/errno.h tells me that: #define EBADRPC 72 /* RPC struct is bad */ If I make /export/client/swap a directory, then the boot gets past the previous panic and gives me an entirely different panic. (Related to the fact that it thought that it just mounted it's swap file, but it really just mounted a directory.)) Is there anyway to get FreeBSD and my old Sun3 to work together? Thanks. Joshua Lackey -- jlackey@darkwing.uoregon.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 11:24:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA19829 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 11:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crh.cl.msu.edu (crh.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.24]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA19812 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 11:24:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from henrich@localhost) by crh.cl.msu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA05753 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:24:06 -0400 From: Charles Henrich Message-Id: <199605281824.OAA05753@crh.cl.msu.edu> Subject: Routing... To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 14:24:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Okay, Im trying to get my stinkin FreeBSD box to realize that there are multiple networks on the same interface, but it refuses to realize this. I have a private 10.* network on the same wire as the public class C network. The system's IP address is in the public net. I want the system to be able to ping addresses in the 10.* net so I have /etc/sysconfig issuing static route's for that network. (E.g. route_private="10.0.0.0 -interface ${hostname}"). This appears to work (netstat -rn) default 198.109.160.1 UGSc 36 3522685 ed0 10 link#1 UCSc 3 0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 1 12334 lo0 198.109.160 link#1 UC 0 0 However I still am unable to ping addersses in the 10 range, the packets are sent to the default gateway :(. # ping -r 10.1.1.1 PING 10.1.1.1 (10.1.1.1): 56 data bytes ping: sendto: Network is unreachable ping: wrote 10.1.1.1 64 chars, ret=-1 Any ideas as to what Im doing wrong here? I am not running routed BTW. Any help appreciated! -Crh Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@msu.edu http://pilot.msu.edu/~henrich From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 12:04:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA21688 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 12:04:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from internet.spss.com (internet.spss.com [192.35.251.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA21678 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 12:04:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmailgw.spss.com (msmailgw.spss.com [192.67.95.6]) by internet.spss.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA17202; Tue, 28 May 1996 19:05:59 GMT Received: by msmailgw.spss.com with Microsoft Mail id <31AB4E8F@msmailgw.spss.com>; Tue, 28 May 96 14:05:51 cdt From: "McKinley, Rob" To: Jeroen Schellart , questions , David Kelly Subject: RE: Appletalk Date: Tue, 28 May 96 14:05:00 cdt Message-ID: <31AB4E8F@msmailgw.spss.com> Encoding: 68 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk By sending the following postscript job, it should change the port speed. Note that this is persistent across power cycles. Note that some machines have a limited number of programming cycles, since they use EEPROMs, so you probably don't want to do this at boot time :-) ------------ snip ----------- % % if your Postscript printer has a supervisor password % replace the 0 (zero) below with it % serverdict begin 0 exitserver statusdict begin % % the first parameter is the port 25 indicating the 25 pin serial port % and 9 is the 9 pin port % the second parameter is the serial port speed % the third parameter is the parity: % 0 is ignore top bit (7 bit chars) % 1 is odd parity % 2 is even parity % 3 is no parity (8 bit chars) % 25 115000 3 setsccbatch ------------ snip ----------- Hope this helps. Rob -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rob McKinley ! Interim Release: SPSS Inc. ! A programmer's feeble attempt at repentance. 312-329-3661 ! mckinley@spss.com ! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- From: David Kelly[SMTP:dkelly@hiwaay.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 1996 7:10 AM To: Jeroen Schellart; questions Subject: Re: Appletalk At 1:53 AM -0500 5/28/96, Jeroen Schellart wrote: >Does FreeBSD have support for the Appletalkt protocol. >I recently got an old MAC-laser. The serial port only support a transfer >rate of 9600 Bps. A little bit slow for a big postscript file. The >apple-talk is a bit faster. So I would like to know if there is a way to >use this port? I think your solution will be to increase the serial port speed on the LaserWriter from 9600 to some other value. Am quite sure it can be done (at least 56k) but don't know how. I'd net surf looking for "Don Lancaster" as he has written much over the years on hacking LaserWriters and Postscript. -- David Kelly N4HHE, n4hhe@amsat.org, dkelly@hiwaay.net ============================================================= To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. - Thomas Edison From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 12:07:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA21856 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 12:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA21839 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 12:07:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwnexus.wa.com (nwnexus.wa.com [192.135.191.1]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id LAA07311 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 11:56:21 -0700 Received: from apex.com by nwnexus.wa.com with SMTP id AA12448 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 28 May 1996 11:56:16 -0700 Received: from aphid (apex) by apex.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08400; Tue, 28 May 96 11:56:10 PDT Message-Id: <31AB4C47.41C67EA6@apex.com> Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 11:56:08 -0700 From: Tinh Tran Organization: Apex Computer Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b3 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.2 sun4) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Openwindow in FreeBSD. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, does FreeBSD include openwindows like in SunOS and Linux? I installed FreeBSD 2.1 from the CD disc I bought at Walnut cdrom.com and I couldn't find /usr/openwin/bin/openwin else- where? Thanks for reply. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 12:09:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA22177 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 12:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mistery.mcafee.com (jimd@mistery.mcafee.com [192.187.128.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA22171 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 12:09:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jimd@localhost) by mistery.mcafee.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA19058; Tue, 28 May 1996 12:27:24 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199605281927.MAA19058@mistery.mcafee.com> Subject: Re: BBS's and Menu System To: zgabor@CoDe.hu (Gabor Zahemszky) Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 12:27:23 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, root@netpc.com In-Reply-To: <199605281540.PAA01600@CoDe.CoDe.hu> from "Gabor Zahemszky" at May 28, 96 03:40:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > does anyone know of any good menu systems for use in shell accounts? > 1) You can use the (pd)ksh's and bash's select command to generate simple > menus, or > 2) Get the dialog utility (or write your own command with libdialog - as > the sysinstall command) > and make little shell scripts to generate a menu. In the ports collection there is an 'mshell-1.0' (apparently developed by NYX). It appears to be a menuing system designed to be used as a shell. It is also possible to compile 'Lynx' with local execution enabled. You can then create html pages that provide a very flexible menuing interface. Personally I'd look at the latter option for several reasons: * You probably already know how to write HTML. Lynx local execution links are just a URL of the form: Run The Foo Program (from the /usr/bin dir) ('lynxprog' is for interactive programs, 'lynxexec' is for non-interactive program (like 'ls') and 'lynxcgi' is an unusual one that allows local execution of cgi scripts -- which I don't completely understand I just execute normal CGI through the httpd on the localhost) * You can integrate your menus with their own documentation. * You can integrate your menus and documentation with your internal webserver (if you have one) and with the world-wide-web itself. * There's built in, full screen, menu oriented ftp (including non-anonymous using links like: "ftp://user@ftp.host.org/path") * It's quick. * You can create forms and tie them into your CGI scripts (for things like account and alias requests) * You can use the "DirEd" features to allow users to access a variety of file management functions with through the same menu interface (using URL's like: "file://localhost/~") * You can allow your more advanced users to edit their own menu and other files. This may be particularly handy if they have a ~/public_html directory to maintain. * There are a number of restrictions that can be specified on the command line (and can be used to provide some minor security limits on some users). * I suspect that you could statically link it, and your other "approved" binaries and run the whole shebang in a chroot'd environment. Another option would be 'Midnight Commander' which has extensive custom menuing capabilities in addition to its elegant (ncurses/color) full-screen file management interface. Jim Dennis, System Administrator, McAfee Associates From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 12:30:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA23375 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 12:30:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from owlnet.rice.edu (owlnet.rice.edu [128.42.49.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA23370 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 12:30:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from glad.owlnet.rice.edu (glad.owlnet.rice.edu [128.42.55.50]) by owlnet.rice.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id OAA12671; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:30:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from lromero@localhost) by glad.owlnet.rice.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA05921; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:30:33 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 14:30:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Luis Romero To: questions@freeBSD.org cc: Luis Arnoldo Romero Subject: installing Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to install FreeBSD from the Walnut Creek CD-Rom but I haven't had any success. I have a 75MHz Pentium with two IDE controllers. The first IDE controller has two 1 Gb hard drives connected to it. The second controller has an IDE CD-Rom. During the probing stage, it seems to recognize the two hard drives on the first controller and also the CD-ROM but somehow it is looking for a third hard drive which doesn't exist and it just hangs there. Here are some messages that I get: ... wd2 size unknown, using BIOS value wdc1 unit 1 (atapi): NEC CD-ROM DRIVE: 272/4.15 wcd0 689Kb/sec, 256 Kb cache, ... wcd0 medium type unknown, unlocked ... (after some more messages the screen goes blank but I can read some debugging messages by pressing PrintScreen) DEBUG: IOCTL (3, TIOCCONS, NULL) = 0 (success) wd2: can't handle 64 heads from partition table (truncating to 16) wd2 wdunwedge failed wd2 status 70 error ff ... (The same messages keep repeating periodically...) Is there a fix for this? thanks, Luis From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 12:35:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA23772 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 12:35:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seagull.rtd.com (seagull.rtd.com [198.102.68.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA23762; Tue, 28 May 1996 12:35:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dgy@localhost) by seagull.rtd.com (8.6.12/1.2) id MAA10756; Tue, 28 May 1996 12:34:26 -0700 From: Don Yuniskis Message-Id: <199605281934.MAA10756@seagull.rtd.com> Subject: Previous version CD's (again) To: freebsd-hackers@freefall.FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD hackers) Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 12:34:26 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD questions) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings! I've been trying to build a complete archive of past FBSD releases and have been searching for older CD-ROMs. I'm currently looking for the following versions: 1.1.5.1R (I don't think there was a 1.1.5R) 1.0 any "pre 1.0" stuff (i.e. 386BSD) And, any CD-ROMs that were *not* pressed by W.C. Pointers to existing archive sites would also be appreciated (to pick up some of the goodies that *aren't* on the CD-ROMs). If you are interested in parting with any of the above, please drop me a line to minimize the noise on these lists. Thanks alot! --don From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 12:40:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA24327 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 12:40:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from icarus.metrotor.on.ca (metrotor.on.ca [137.15.245.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA24322 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 12:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ariel.metrotor.on.ca by icarus.metrotor.on.ca with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #5) id m0uOUce-0001w2C; Tue, 28 May 96 15:40 EDT Received: from nessie by ariel.metrotor.on.ca with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #6) id m0uOUcd-000806C; Tue, 28 May 96 15:40 EDT Message-ID: <31AB55D8.41C67EA6@nessie.metrotor.on.ca> Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 15:36:56 -0400 From: Mike Evans X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; BSD/386 uname failed) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org CC: daisy@nessie.csit.metrotor.on.ca Subject: Problem Unpacking .tgz Files X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear FreeBsd Persons, I can't seem to gunzip or zcat .tgz files I've FTP'd from your FTP server to my FreeBSD 2.0 server. The .tar.Z files unpack nicely with gunzip -d and tar -xvf. Any suggestions, Mike Evans From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 13:57:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA28030 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 13:57:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA28023 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 13:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALHOST (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA23476; Tue, 28 May 1996 13:58:40 -0700 Message-Id: <199605282058.NAA23476@riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu: Host LOCALHOST didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.4 10/10/95 To: gavin cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hitachi cdrom In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 24 May 1996 19:13:41 BST." <31A5FC55.4A0B@spidercafe.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 13:58:39 -0700 From: Doug White Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -------- > Do you know where we can download drivers for hitachi cdroms? Is it different from ATAPI/IDE CDROMs? If yes, then no, there are no drivers. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 14:05:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA28864 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:05:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mars.csg.peachnet.edu (mars.CSG.PeachNet.EDU [168.26.193.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA28847 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:05:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.csg.peachnet.edu (mercury.CSG.PeachNet.EDU [168.26.193.32]) by mars.csg.peachnet.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA13908 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 16:55:18 -0400 Received: from CCMAIN/SpoolDir by mercury.csg.peachnet.edu (Mercury 1.21); 28 May 96 17:05:56 EST Received: from SpoolDir by CCMAIN (Mercury 1.21); 28 May 96 17:05:54 EST From: "Christian" Organization: Columbus College, Columbus, GA To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 17:05:45 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: SATAN ported? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Message-ID: <3CD63F6958@mercury.csg.peachnet.edu> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Has anyone ported SATAN to FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE? Or does anyone have it running, and if so, could you tell me what you did to get it running on FreeBSD? I tried to download and install it but, I got some error message when trying to run the reconfig script. Thanks, C.P. ____________ Christian Plazas Columbus College, Columbus,GA 706.568.2063 ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 14:09:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA29378 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:09:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA29371 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALHOST (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA23580; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:11:40 -0700 Message-Id: <199605282111.OAA23580@riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu: Host LOCALHOST didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.4 10/10/95 To: max@sfc.wide.ad.jp cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [please help] connecting serial terminal In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 25 May 1996 22:42:12 +0900." <199605251342.WAA00587@mail.tky007.tth.expo96.ad.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 14:11:40 -0700 From: Doug White Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -------- > Hi, > > I'm helping a friend of mine setting up his FreeBSD 2.1.0R box. > Now, he wants to use FreeBSD from PC running vt100 emulator connected > to the FreeBSD box via serial port. I suggested to modify /etc/ttys > to include line as follows: > > ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 on secure > > and do ``kill -1 1''. > > I thought above action will enable him to login from the serial > terminal. (Actually, it's working OK with my machines.) However, no > login prompt is sent after taking the action above. Did he hit a few times to elicit a login: prompt? Getty won't just fire off the login prompt unless it thinks it's set up. I do hope there is a space between ttyd0 and the ". Did you check the syslog for any reports from getty? > So, we made sure that reverse serial cable is used, and the > serial ports of the both PC's are working properly by connecting the > two computers using terminal software on DOS. Did that work OK? Try using ppp's term or tip to talk to the port directly, make sure the port is working first. > Next, I checked if getty is running, waiting for incoming > connection. Although the serial terminal is connected, `ps ax' showed > that getty hasn't been able to open the terminal. That is on ps? Where? :-) Just some stuff I thought up. I do not even try to call myself knowledgable about terminals. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 14:10:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA29621 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA29592 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:10:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uswgco2.uswc.uswest.com (uswgco2.uswest.com [206.196.133.74]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id NAA07919 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 13:14:47 -0700 Received: (from smap@localhost) by uswgco2.uswc.uswest.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id OAA07279 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:14:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from egate.mnet.uswest.com(151.116.23.138) by uswgco2.uswc.uswest.com via smap (V1.3) id sma007262; Tue May 28 14:13:57 1996 Received: from easthub (easthub.mnet.uswest.com [151.117.26.86]) by egate.mnet.uswest.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id OAA03668 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:13:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: by easthub.mnet.uswest.com (M-Net Hub.951228) Received: by acs.uswest.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA19840; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:13:55 -0500 Received: from astro.acs.uswest.com by acs.uswest.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA19818; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:13:48 -0500 Received: by astro.acs.uswest.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA28085; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:13:46 -0500 From: ptroot@uswest.com (Paul T. Root) Message-Id: <199605282013.PAA28085@astro.acs.uswest.com> Subject: Re: booting takes forever To: chris@enteract.com (dcastle) Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 15:13:46 -0500 (CDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "dcastle" at May 28, 96 01:11:00 pm X-Organization: !nterprise Networking Services X-Phone: (612) 663-1979 X-Fax: (612) 663-8030 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 200 S. 5th St., Suite 1100 X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55402 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In a previous message, dcastle said: > > > I just installed FreeBSD 2.1 on a 486 box, and I'm having trouble with > it hanging during bootup. > It gets to this point: > > add net default: gateway 204.119.47.50 > > (204.119.47.50 is the default gateway used by the entire office.) It > hangs on the above line for probably 5-10 minutes. Eventually it will > boot up, and the default gateway DOES work. > I've also noticed that if I ^C at the point where it hangs, it > continues booting again until it tries to start sendmail. It then hangs > at sendmail until I ^C again. Then I finally get the login prompt. Why > the grueling bootup? > Thanx in advance for any help you might be able to throw my way. > > Chris Odom It sounds to me like its having trouble resolving host names. The above output should mean that the route command has finished. Since your running a default route, I'm going to assume that you're not running as a gateway or gated. So the next command it runs is mount -a -t nfs. Which seems reasonable. That is to say, it's hanging on nfs because it can't resolve ip addresses of hosts that you're nfs mounting. If the period comes up after sendmail, then it's completed, otherwise sendmail is trying to resolve hosts (which also seems resonable). To sum up, check that dns is working correctly on the machine. Run nslookup, and the files /etc/host.conf and /etc/resolv.conf. If your not running dns. Check the /etc/hosts table that everything is defined in there. Or NIS, if your running it. If your machine is the dns server, you probably want hosts first in the host.conf file, because, the server won't be running during start up. Paul. -- Paul T. Root - USWEST !NTERPRISE Networking Service ptroot@uswest.com "But where the senses fail us, reason must step in." - Galileo From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 14:13:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA00162 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA00139 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:13:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALHOST (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA23607; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:13:20 -0700 Message-Id: <199605282113.OAA23607@riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu: Host LOCALHOST didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.4 10/10/95 To: "Alexey Minayev" cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Video card ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 25 May 1996 19:54:19 +0400." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 14:13:20 -0700 From: Doug White Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -------- > I would be very obliged if you could answer a micro-question > concerning FreeBSD hardware compatibility. The problem is, > our team is about to purchase a computer to install new Internet > server with FreeBSD-UNIX. Anything works with FreeBSD. Whether it works with Xwindows or not is a different question. > - SVGA/PCI 4Mb/V (DIAMOND STEALTH 64 VIDEO). Unless you're using X, isn't that a bit overkill? The Stealth is S3, I believe, and _should_ work. No guarantee. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 14:17:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA00476 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:17:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jolt.eng.umd.edu (jolt.eng.umd.edu [129.2.102.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA00461; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ginger.eng.umd.edu (ginger.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.204]) by jolt.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA06492; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:17:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by ginger.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA07016; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:17:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 17:17:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@ginger.eng.umd.edu To: Don Yuniskis cc: FreeBSD hackers , FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: Previous version CD's (again) In-Reply-To: <199605281934.MAA10756@seagull.rtd.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 28 May 1996, Don Yuniskis wrote: > Greetings! > I've been trying to build a complete archive of past > FBSD releases and have been searching for older CD-ROMs. > I'm currently looking for the following versions: > 1.1.5.1R (I don't think there was a 1.1.5R) I don't think there was a 1.1.5.1 cdrom, just a 1.1 (which I have). > 1.0 > any "pre 1.0" stuff (i.e. 386BSD) > And, any CD-ROMs that were *not* pressed by W.C. Pointers > to existing archive sites would also be appreciated (to pick > up some of the goodies that *aren't* on the CD-ROMs). > If you are interested in parting with any of the above, > please drop me a line to minimize the noise on these lists. > Thanks alot! > --don > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 14:28:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA01432 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:28:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA01427 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:28:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALHOST (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA23728; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:29:43 -0700 Message-Id: <199605282129.OAA23728@riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu: Host LOCALHOST didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.4 10/10/95 To: mitch@hardware.com cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Newbe & install trouble with IDE CD-ROM In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 26 May 1996 18:00:54 PDT." <199605270112.SAA23780@dns2.noc.best.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 14:29:42 -0700 From: Doug White Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -------- I'm going to skip a bunch here... > 'mount -r -t cd9660 /dev/wcd0c /cdrom' > results: "mount: /cdrom: no such file or directory Listen to what your computer is telling you: the directory /cdrom, the mountpoint, doesn't exist. su to root and 'mkdir /cdrom' or mount it on /mnt or other convenient location. > 'mount_cd9660 /dev/wcd0c /cdrom' > results:"mount /dev/cd9660 : no such flile or directory" Ditto here. Since you didn't install from CD it probably neglected to make this directory. > During the boot process I see the message at the end, > "May 26 17:22:40 mitchj mount[77] can't open /var/db/mountdtab" Gr. Make sure that file exists and the permissions are OK. Or check the questions archive or FAQ. I can't remember the solution off the top of my head. > What should I do now? re-install after copying more dirs from CD to MS-dos > slice? Go out and buy a new SCSI CD-Rom? Any suggestions are appreciated. Buying a SCSI CD isn't such a bad idea. But I wouldn't waste money just to get the same error. :-) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 14:30:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA01634 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dworshak.cs.uidaho.edu (root@dworshak.cs.uidaho.edu [129.101.100.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA01581 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:29:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waldrog.cs.uidaho.edu (waldrog.cs.uidaho.edu [129.101.100.23]) by dworshak.cs.uidaho.edu (8.7.5/1.1) with ESMTP id OAA04086; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (harr9446@localhost) by waldrog.cs.uidaho.edu (8.7.5/1.0) id OAA14235; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 14:29:44 -0700 (PDT) From: MICHAEL HARRISON To: Michael Smith cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hardware support - X windows In-Reply-To: <199605220037.KAA29564@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am having problems getting X configured right for my mouse. It is plugged into com2, its a MS serial mouse, no matter what I try I can't get the settings right. Also I have a modem on the other com port and I can't set my device right for PPP, its a Zoom 28.8 external on com1, what is the right setting. mike From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 14:46:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA02918 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:46:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA02912 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:46:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALHOST (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA23878; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:47:47 -0700 Message-Id: <199605282147.OAA23878@riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu: Host LOCALHOST didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.4 10/10/95 To: Amooooo@aol.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Missing o/s? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 27 May 1996 13:06:54 EDT." <960527130652_121740719@emout13.mail.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 14:47:45 -0700 From: Doug White Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -------- > I have problem after FreeBSD was installed. At boot up the system shows a > missing opertating system. What could this problem be? The 'active' partition flag got reset. Use FDISK to set one of the partitions as "active'. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 14:48:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA03080 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:48:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zeus.qualcomm.com (zeus.qualcomm.com [129.46.50.42]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA03070 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:48:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from qualcomm.com (qualcomm.com [192.35.156.11]) by zeus.qualcomm.com (8.7.5/0.7/8.7.2/1.7.1) with ESMTP id OAA20348 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 129.46.104.151 (sathalye-mac.qualcomm.com [129.46.104.151]) by qualcomm.com with SMTP id OAA02942 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:49:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <31AB747F.790D@qualcomm.com> Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 14:47:43 -0700 From: Sanjeev Athalye Organization: Qualcomm Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Read-only drive msg. while installing X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have a P166 with a 2Gb HD, partitioned as follows: DOS 400Mb FreeBSD 700Mb WinNT 900Mb I partitioned the BSD slice, and mounted the drives /, SWAP, /var, /usr, as recommended in the installation. However, after selecting the Boot Manager, and attempting to complete the installation, it complains that the partition has been declared read-only! I am installing from an MS-DOS partition (C:\FREEBSD), and have FREEBSD\BIN and FREEBSD\FLOPPIES in there. Does anyone have a possible solution? Thanks, Sanjeev Athalye. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 15:07:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA05196 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:07:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA05165 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:07:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mars.csg.peachnet.edu (mars.CSG.PeachNet.EDU [168.26.193.19]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id OAA08844 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:42:06 -0700 Received: from mercury.csg.peachnet.edu (mercury.CSG.PeachNet.EDU [168.26.193.32]) by mars.csg.peachnet.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA14030 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:31:26 -0400 Received: from CCMAIN/SpoolDir by mercury.csg.peachnet.edu (Mercury 1.21); 28 May 96 17:42:04 EST Received: from SpoolDir by CCMAIN (Mercury 1.21); 28 May 96 17:41:55 EST From: "Christian" Organization: Columbus College, Columbus, GA To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 17:41:54 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: SATAN inqury please disregard...sorry! Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Message-ID: <3D6FFA6592@mercury.csg.peachnet.edu> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk subject says it all Thanks ____________ Christian Plazas Columbus College, Columbus,GA 706.568.2063 ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 15:07:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA05436 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA05304; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:07:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id OAA08808 ; Tue, 28 May 1996 14:40:47 -0700 Received: from InfoWest.COM ([204.17.177.10]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.7.5/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with SMTP id JAA25354; Tue, 28 May 1996 09:59:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agifford (zaketh.uv.com [204.17.177.95]) by InfoWest.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA09276; Tue, 28 May 1996 11:09:24 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960528165727.00d346b8@infowest.com> X-Sender: agifford@infowest.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 10:57:27 -0600 To: questions@freebsd.org From: "Aaron D. Gifford" Subject: Nantoma/EDO vs. Orion/FPM for PPro performance? Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hola! Here's a few PPro questions... Rumor has it that the Orion chipset (Intel's 82450KX/GX PCIset), even with the B0 stepping that fixed Orion's SLOW PCI bus performance, still has some sort of PCI performance problems. Can anyone confirm or deny? Now for Orion vs. Nantoma questions... How does an Orion-based motherboard using FPM (Fast Page Mode) RAM in a 2:1 interleaving memory configuration (as supported by the '450KX) compare against a comparable Nantoma-based (Intel's 82440 PCIset) motherboard using EDO or BEDO RAM without interleaving? What about an Orion board with a 4:1 interleaved configuration (as supported by the '450GX)? Does anyone have FreeBSD-2.1R or FreeBSD-2.1-stable running on a Nantoma or Orion board? I've been looking at building a FreeBSD system based on an ASUS P/I P6RP4 motherboard ('450KX PCIset) and a 2:1 interleaved FPM RAM config. I'm also tempted to use a SuperMicro Suggestions, comments, caveats, warnings, questions, debate, etc. encouraged! :) Thanks, Aaron Gifford --=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=-- Aaron D. Gifford InfoWest, 1845 W. Sunset Blvd, St. George, UT 84770 InfoWest Networking Phone: (801) 674-0165 FAX: (801) 673-9734 Visit InfoWest at: "http://www.infowest.com/" ICBM: 37.07847 N, 113.57858 W "Southern Utah's Finest Network Connection" --=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=-- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 15:08:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA05564 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:08:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA05552 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id NAA07820 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 13:04:40 -0700 Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA22915; Tue, 28 May 1996 13:04:35 -0700 Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 13:04:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: John Clark cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: emergency boot floppy documentation In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960527180313.0030d2dc@felix.iupui.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 27 May 1996, John Clark wrote: > I am looking for documentation on creating an emergency boot floppy. It > seems to me that I read how to do this somewhere (thought it was in the > handbook). I have grep-ed the handbook, searched questions@freebsd.org, > man-k the manual pages, etc. but can find no info on creating an emergency > boot floppy. Please reply if you know where this info it located. About the closest thing tehreis is the "fixit" floppy. There is an image in /floppies and requires teh bot install disk to use. The boot disk is enough of a "emergency" disk since you can boot any freeBSD partition iwth it from the Boot: prompt. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 15:08:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA05779 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:08:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA05771 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:08:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA18611 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:08:34 -0700 Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 15:08:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Jamil Weatherbee To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Install via cd-rom (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Technical Support Walnut Creek CDROM ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 19:30:39 -0400 From: babel@cais.cais.com To: support@cdrom.com Cc: babel@cais.com Subject: Install via cd-rom Have your freeBSD cd-rom but conot get any of the boot floppie routines to detect its presents. What minimal level of install will allow a kernel rebuild including your wcd0 cdrom driver? User ? Developer ? Any help at all will be great! Thanks in advance Bob Abel (703) 802-8094 babel@cais.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 15:10:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA05993 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asylum.asylum.org (dlr@asylum.asylum.org [205.217.4.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA05914 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:09:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dlr@localhost) by asylum.asylum.org (8.6.10/8.6.9) id RAA18160; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:07:43 -0500 From: dlr Message-Id: <199605282207.RAA18160@asylum.asylum.org> Subject: ELM Config To: PLAZAS_CHRISTIAN@mercury.csg.peachnet.edu (Christian) Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 17:07:43 -0500 (EST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3CD63F6958@mercury.csg.peachnet.edu> from "Christian" at May 28, 96 05:05:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Got elm to compile fine but seem to be having a problem with either lockfiles or perms. Could someone send me their config file or tell me how they have it set up to work. I have 2 bsd boxes that i can't get elm to work on (v2.0 and v2.1) and it is something stupid that i am overlooking. Elm starts up, then dies trying 6 times saying waiting for mail to arrive. Pine works fine but uggh. ls -al /usr/local/bin/elm -rwxr-xr-x 1 bin bin 364779 May 28 16:18 /usr/local/bin/elm /var/mail/ drwxr-xr-x 2 bin bin 512 May 28 16:53 mail /var/spool/lock drwxrwxr-x 2 uucp dialer 512 Nov 16 1995 lock thanks, dave racette From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 15:10:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA06167 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:10:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA06144 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA06523 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 10:07:16 -0700 Received: (from richardc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA15883; Tue, 28 May 1996 10:07:11 -0700 Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 10:07:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Veggy Vinny To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: long motd files - screen pause? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings everyone, Does anyone know how to get the screen to pause after each page for long motd files? Thanks! Vince From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 15:11:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA06259 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:11:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA06202 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:10:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from felix.iupui.edu (root@felix.iupui.edu [134.68.45.77]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA06602 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 10:15:07 -0700 Received: from corona (jrclark@indy2.indy.net [199.3.65.7]) by felix.iupui.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA00954 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 12:14:35 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 12:14:35 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960528121926.002e90d0@felix.iupui.edu> X-Sender: jrclark@felix.iupui.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: John Clark Subject: set erase to ^H before login Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I access my FreeBSD server primarily from a PC. After I login, I have the shell script set erase to ^H (stty crt erase ^H), but before I login is when I really need to do this. If I mess-up my login, I must use crtl+backspace to erase (instead of backspace, as is the case after login). Properly configuring this (getty) seems to be beyond my current abilities. Can anyone help? --John [jrclark@indy.net] From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 15:11:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA06276 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:11:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA06248 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA06674 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 10:23:31 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA11331; Tue, 28 May 1996 10:20:54 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605281720.KAA11331@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Sharing Internet over PPP To: rastis@coastline.net (Rastislav Seffer) Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 10:20:54 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960528073343.00c28530@coastline.net> from "Rastislav Seffer" at May 28, 96 00:33:43 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I would like to find out if the following is possible. > > > I want to connect six computers over a modem line using PPP. Each computer > should have its own IP address and the internet server (FreeBSD what else) > should be able to handle the packet forwarding. > > Is such a thing possible? Yes. Just turn on the gatewaying, and run gated (man gated). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 15:11:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA06289 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:11:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA06250 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:11:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA06704 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 10:25:52 -0700 Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA21734; Tue, 28 May 1996 10:27:40 -0700 Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 10:27:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Kyle D. Smith" cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bootmanager.. In-Reply-To: <199605272007.OAA26650@gallup.cia-g.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 27 May 1996, Kyle D. Smith wrote: > Hello. > Could you please tell me how to reinstall the FreeBSD Bootmanager. It was deleted when i installed Dos version 6.22 on a partition on the drive. Is there a way > to do it without reinstalling FreeBSD?? Thank you again. The install package for Booteasy is in /tools/dist on CD 1 or on ftp.freebsd.org in the FreeBSD directory. (/pub/FreeBSD) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 15:11:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA06334 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:11:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA06285 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:11:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA06587 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 10:13:11 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA11302; Tue, 28 May 1996 10:10:01 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605281710.KAA11302@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Direct mail program To: admin@quebecweb.com Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 10:10:01 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605281200.IAA21879@quebecweb.com> from "admin@quebecweb.com" at May 28, 96 08:00:50 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I run FreeBSD 2.0 on a PC machine. > > I look for a perl or sh program that let a file > being mailed to a recipient (xxx@www.zzz) > > This must be a file because i take a string coming from the web > and put it in a temporary file. I print a copy of the file > before to send it by fax, > but cannot send it by mail because of the CTRL-D that is > necessary to send mail. > > I need a perl of sh routine that mail the file > to a recipient Redirect input; the end of the file is an implicit ^D. #!/bin/sh # # sendfile if test "x$2" == "x" then echo "usage: sendfile " >&2 exit 1 fi mail -s "File Transmission" $1 < $2 exit $? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 15:11:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA06351 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA06293 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:11:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA06535 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 10:09:27 -0700 Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA21614; Tue, 28 May 1996 10:11:10 -0700 Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 10:11:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Reza Latjuba cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: About FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <31AACF32.9E8@slip.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 28 May 1996, Reza Latjuba wrote: > I would like to know whether the software intended for SUN Solaris can > be used and installed in FreeBSD 2.1....I ask this question because The > architecture behind SUN Solaris and FreeBSD based on the same > architecture... I don't think so because they are NOT the same architecture, strictly speaking. Suns use the SPARC processor; FreeBSD uses Intel i386, which are vastly different. If you are referencing that Solaris is based on BSD, still no; Solaris is heavily modified version and isn't directly compatible. Even if you had the source to the program it would take some work to port it, depending on the program. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 15:11:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA06399 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:11:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA06312 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA06724 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 10:27:18 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA11340; Tue, 28 May 1996 10:24:30 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605281724.KAA11340@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: About FreeBSD To: rogha@slip.net Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 10:24:30 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31AACF32.9E8@slip.net> from "Reza Latjuba" at May 28, 96 03:02:26 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I would like to know whether the software intended for SUN Solaris can > be used and installed in FreeBSD 2.1....I ask this question because The > architecture behind SUN Solaris and FreeBSD based on the same > architecture... Work is under way to support running Solaris x86 binaries. Unfortunately, the Linux ELF does not add an identification segment (like it should), so it is hard to distinguish Linux ELF binaries from Solaris ELF binaries. Since they have different call gates and different ld.so, etc., currently, it's only possible to distinguish shared binaries by their choice of ld.so. If you are interested in testing, you should contact the people working on the problem (on the -current list). Otherwise, the code is not in any release version, and the answer is "no". Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 15:11:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA06456 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:11:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA06359 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:11:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA06751 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 10:30:39 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA11352; Tue, 28 May 1996 10:27:08 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605281727.KAA11352@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Problems (caused by input errors?) To: robert@elastica.com (Robert Nicholson) Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 10:27:08 -0700 (MST) Cc: dp@acn.purdue.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Robert Nicholson" at May 28, 96 04:46:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > The following message is a courtesy copy of an article > that has been posted as well. > > It turns out that my ppp problems are due to input errors. I'm not > getting any input packets. Or at least every one results in an error > according to netstat -in > > I managed to find the patch necessary for x86 and snoop to > coperate. and now snoop is telling me everything about output packets > but I'm seeing no input packets at all.. > > What is the cause of seeing no input packets? The RXD light on the > modem always flickers it's just that they end up as errors. > > Any ideas on how I can further diagnose this? Do you get no data, or is the data corrupt? Try turning off compression, if the data is corrupt. Try correcting your modem settings or the RTS line in your modem cable, if there is no data. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 15:11:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA06530 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:11:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA06504 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:11:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA06677 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 10:23:49 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA11319; Tue, 28 May 1996 10:19:39 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605281719.KAA11319@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Ist there a way to easily reconstruct partition/slice tables? To: ost@comnets.rwth-aachen.de Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 10:19:39 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605280810.KAA23103@smeagol.comnets.rwth-aachen.de> from "Martin Ostermann" at May 28, 96 10:10:36 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > last night I cleared the first few blocks on my FreeBSD disk. It had > nothing particular important on it, which wasn't backup'd, but > contained some configuration data that would take me a while to > restore. > > Is it possible to automatically identify the beginning and endings of > the UFS file systems, and thus construct a new partition table or > label? It doesn't need to be perfect, just enough to copy the relevant > information. In /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/fs.h: #define FS_MAGIC 0x011954 /* the fast filesystem magic number */ 1) Look for this value (McKusick's birthday 8-)) as a longword value. At the offset you find the value, minus: ((int)&((struct fs *)0)->d_magic) You will find the start of the superblock for the FS. Look at the first one of these minus 8k minus the size of the disklabel for the start of the partition (assuming reserved space for boot blocks). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 15:12:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA06576 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:12:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA06522 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mistery.mcafee.com (jimd@mistery.mcafee.com [192.187.128.69]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA06576 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 10:12:34 -0700 Received: (from jimd@localhost) by mistery.mcafee.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA18866; Tue, 28 May 1996 10:31:06 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199605281731.KAA18866@mistery.mcafee.com> Subject: Re: kernel file permissions To: jrclark@felix.iupui.edu (John Clark) Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 10:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960528110438.0030d694@felix.iupui.edu> from "John Clark" at May 28, 96 10:59:46 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hello, > > I was looking at the default kernel permissions... Is there any need to > have them so open? Why should there be read and execute permissions for the > "other" group? I suppose, you could reverse that question on me: "why not > let everyone read and execute it?" > > Anyway, it seems to work great like this: > > -r-------- 1 root wheel 705521 May 21 12:33 kernel > -r-------- 1 root wheel 1139171 May 18 12:15 kernel.gen > > Call me anal, but this seems much more desirable. If someone knows of a > reason why the above permissions may be bad (ie. different run levels?), > please let me know -- but it works just fine as far as I can tell. Some debuggers and/or some diagnostics might need to read the kernel to look for some data structures. Linux has a /System.map for some reason. However I run my Linux and FreeBSD systems with read-only kernels. I see no security benefit to non-readable kernel (particularly as the src tree usually must be at least "group" readable). I also add 'chflags syschg' to that -- so it's harder for me to damage a kernel file (or any of my libs, or bins) even when I'm su'd to 'root' Jim Dennis, System Administrator, McAfee Associates From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 15:12:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA06594 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:12:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA06532 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:11:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA06781 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 10:33:24 -0700 Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA21721; Tue, 28 May 1996 10:26:46 -0700 Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 10:26:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Pedro A M Vazquez cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Booting from wdc2 In-Reply-To: <199605251155.LAA03184@kalypso.iqm.unicamp.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 25 May 1996, Pedro A M Vazquez wrote: Keep this bit around for reference... > A friend of mine has an IBM 350 P75 computer with the following > setup > > wdc0: wd0 (IBM DALA 540M) HPFS OS2/warp > atapi CD > wdc1: wd2 (NEC 1.6G) 600M FBSD partition , 1G HPFS partition > The instalation went as smooth as possible, using the atapi.flp > the IDE CD was recognized and used to install FBSD on wdc1, the boot > selector is working really fine but it is impossible to complete the > boot because the boot program tries to mount the root partition on > wd(1,a) instead of wd(2,a) and panices. Can you boot using the install floppy and typing "wd(2,a)/kernel" at the Boot: prompt OK? Can you move the disks onto one controller? That would make it less confusing to the kernel. > What would be the easiest way to solve this problem, my friend > is not a computer hacker and don't wants to move things (exchange the ide CD > with the NEC, or reinstall warp) I didn't see a CD on that list. Is that is what is on the slave on wdc0? Since the system is installed you could swap that and the NEC. You can't use the CD until you rebuild the kernel anyway, so no big loss for the time being. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 15:13:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA07098 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:13:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA07059 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:13:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id JAA06313 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 09:45:29 -0700 Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA20095; Tue, 28 May 1996 12:45:23 -0400 Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 12:45:23 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9605281645.AA20095@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Dave Bodenstab Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Weird behavior (bug? fix included) with sendmail/dns/gethostbyname In-Reply-To: <199605241954.OAA02123@base486.synet.net> References: <199605241954.OAA02123@base486.synet.net> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > Again, just as expected. I'll also mention that the test program does *not* > result in a dns lookup. So, I don't know what sendmail is doing that the > order of the hostnames would make a difference. Sendmail needs to know the fully-qualified domain name of your host. You didn't provide it. (Sendmail knows that the first address listed by gethostby*() is the canonical one, and it is not allowed to use noncanonical ones.) -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 15:14:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA07301 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA07281; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:14:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from InfoWest.COM (infowest.com [204.17.177.10]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id JAA06257 ; Tue, 28 May 1996 09:41:42 -0700 Received: from agifford (zaketh.uv.com [204.17.177.95]) by InfoWest.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA09036; Tue, 28 May 1996 10:53:27 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960528164129.00b40d1c@infowest.com> X-Sender: agifford@infowest.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 10:41:29 -0600 To: questions@freebsd.org From: "Aaron D. Gifford" Subject: Support for BusLogic BT958? (SCSI III UltraWide) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings! Is there/will there be support for BusLogic's MultiMaster 958 PCI SCSI UltraWide controller? It is my understanding that the BT958 is a superior SCSI UltraWide controller. Does anyone know if this is true/false? How does it compare against Adaptec's 2940UW? Sincerely, Aaron Gifford --=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=-- Aaron D. Gifford InfoWest, 1845 W. Sunset Blvd, St. George, UT 84770 InfoWest Networking Phone: (801) 674-0165 FAX: (801) 673-9734 Visit InfoWest at: "http://www.infowest.com/" ICBM: 37.07847 N, 113.57858 W "Southern Utah's Finest Network Connection" --=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=--=+=-- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 15:42:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA10509 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:42:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.conline.com (root@l2.conline.com [204.96.7.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA10499 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:42:11 -0700 (PDT) From: zeidaot@mail.conline.com Received: from dal1-16.conline.com (dal1-16.conline.com [204.96.7.16]) by mail.conline.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA18886; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:44:05 -0500 Message-Id: <199605282244.RAA18886@mail.conline.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is To: questions@FreeBSD.org, "Christian" Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 17:36:33 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: SATAN ported? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.31) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From: "Christian" Organization: Columbus College, Columbus, GA To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 17:05:45 EST Subject: SATAN ported? Priority: normal Hi, Has anyone ported SATAN to FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE? Or does anyone have it running, and if so, could you tell me what you did to get it running on FreeBSD? I tried to download and install it but, I got some error message when trying to run the reconfig script. You type "perl reconfig satan". You also need Perl5001 installed. It also runs like a dream on FreeBSD :> Happy scanning.. ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 15:42:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA10516 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:42:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.conline.com (root@l2.conline.com [204.96.7.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA10498 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:42:11 -0700 (PDT) From: zeidaot@mail.conline.com Received: from dal1-16.conline.com (dal1-16.conline.com [204.96.7.16]) by mail.conline.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA18886; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:44:05 -0500 Message-Id: <199605282244.RAA18886@mail.conline.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is To: questions@FreeBSD.org, "Christian" Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 17:36:33 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: SATAN ported? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.31) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From: "Christian" Organization: Columbus College, Columbus, GA To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 17:05:45 EST Subject: SATAN ported? Priority: normal Hi, Has anyone ported SATAN to FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE? Or does anyone have it running, and if so, could you tell me what you did to get it running on FreeBSD? I tried to download and install it but, I got some error message when trying to run the reconfig script. You type "perl reconfig satan". You also need Perl5001 installed. It also runs like a dream on FreeBSD :> Happy scanning.. ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 15:52:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA11453 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:52:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA11447 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA18838 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:52:27 -0700 Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 15:52:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Jamil Weatherbee To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Support for your SMC 9332 NIC (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Technical Support Walnut Creek CDROM ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 10:20:48 -0500 From: John Clark To: support@cdrom.com Subject: Support for your SMC 9332 NIC Support, I see from your catalog that you use the SMC 9332 (DC21140 based) NIC. I assume this is the SMC "EtherPower 10/100." Looking in the 2.1 kernel, I do not see support for such a board, which is it? THANKS A WHOLE LOT --John [jrclark@indy.net] From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 16:17:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA13118 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 16:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA13110; Tue, 28 May 1996 16:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id QAA09464 ; Tue, 28 May 1996 16:16:59 -0700 Received: from cais.cais.com (cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.7.5/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with SMTP id QAA04941; Tue, 28 May 1996 16:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 204.157.31.49 (babel.cais.com [204.157.31.49]) by cais.cais.com (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA09995; Tue, 28 May 1996 19:12:31 -0400 Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 19:12:31 -0400 Message-Id: <199605282312.TAA09995@cais.cais.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: babel@cais.cais.com Subject: get pkg_add working To: Questions@freebsd.org Cc: JKH@freebsd.org X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.14 X-Spry-Attachment: PKG_ADD.TXT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk <---- Begin Attached File ----> begin 644 PKG_ADD.TXT M22!O=VX@82!$96QL(%!E;G1I=6T@4$,@=VET:"!$3U,@86YD(&9R965"4T0@ M2&%R9"!D6EN9R!F'9Z9B`O=7-R+V-D2!H96QP#0H-"D)O8B!!8F5L#0IB86)E;$!C86ES+F-O ;;0T**# From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 16:22:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA13528 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 16:22:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13521; Tue, 28 May 1996 16:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA21841; Tue, 28 May 1996 16:22:02 -0700 (PDT) To: babel@cais.cais.com cc: Questions@freebsd.org, JKH@freebsd.org Subject: Re: get pkg_add working In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 28 May 1996 19:12:31 EDT." <199605282312.TAA09995@cais.cais.com> Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 16:22:02 -0700 Message-ID: <21839.833325722@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > <---- Begin Attached File ----> > begin 644 PKG_ADD.TXT This is really the wrong way to submit a question - I had to decode it just to read it, and I daresay most others on this list just whapped "delete" rather than go to all the extra trouble. If I'd have been any busier at the moment I probably would have done the same.. :-) Anyway, here's the script you asked for.. Jordan #! /bin/sh # # Script dpa # URL = ftp://pm.cse.rmit.edu.au/ftp/pub/FreeBSD/misc/dpa # # The current pkg_add command cannot process packages in files that have # incorrect names e.g. packages that are being read off a DOS file system # where a shortened name is required. Shell script dpa (Dos Package Add) # figures out the real name of a package so it can be temporarily copied # across to $DEST (with its original name) and have pkg_add run on it. # # The user is prompted to have all packages available in the source # directory installed. # # Parameter 1 is taken as the directory holding the 8+3 named packages, # otherwise we look for a directory named /dos/packages or /dosc/packages # or /dosd/packages, # otherwise we ask where the hell these packages are supposed to be. # # Note: if you had chosen to mount a dos partition as /dos during the # installation, and used the DOS batch file fbsdmove.bat to copy some # initial packages into area \PACKAGES on the DOS disk, then this # script will figure out where your packages are hiding. # # Use: dpa (assumes packages in /dos/packages etc.) # dpa SRCDIR # # phillip@rmit.edu.au 1v0 15-feb-1996 DEST=/root # if a /home is present, we store temporary package copies there # (we assume that a large file system is available at /home) if [ -d /home ] ; then if [ ! -d /home/tmp ] ; then mkdir /home/tmp fi export PKG_TMPDIR=/home/tmp # pkg_add needs lots of space sometimes DEST=$PKG_TMPDIR fi ########################################################################### # take parameter 1 as the source directory containing the packages if [ "x$1" != x ] ; then SRC=$1 # otherwise, attempt to guess where the DOS file system is that contains # the FreeBSD packages else SRC= echo if [ x$SRC = x -a -d /dos/packages/all ] ; then SRC=/dos/packages/all fi if [ x$SRC = x -a -d /dosc/packages/all ] ; then SRC=/dosc/packages/all fi if [ x$SRC = x -a -d /dosd/packages/all ] ; then SRC=/dosd/packages/all fi # otherwise we just ask where the FreeBSD packages are if [ "x$SRC" = x ] ; then echo "Please enter the directory where the packages are kept" read x if [ -d $x ] ; then SRC=$x else echo That does not seem to be a directory... exit fi fi fi echo "Using packages in $SRC" ########################################################################### # Procedure: # # a) examine each file to see if it is a gzip compressed file # b) if it is, we assume it is a .tgz package file and extract the +CONTENTS # file in which a line commencing with the string "@name" is used to give # us the original package's name # c) the user is then prompted to see if this package should be copied and # installed. cd $SRC for x in * ; do if [ -n "`file $x | grep gzip`" ] ; then # non-empty string --> GZIP data echo y=`tar xzOf $x +CONTENTS | grep @name | cut -d' ' -f2`.tgz # get real name echo "File $x is really $y; install (n/y)? " read a case $a in y*|Y*) # we install cp $x $DEST/$y # copy to eal name echo "Executing: pkg_add $DEST/$y" pkg_add $DEST/$y # and install /bin/rm $DEST/$y # then delete tmp copy ;; q*|Q*) exit 0 ;; # quit *) echo "Ignoring: $y" ;; esac fi done From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 16:37:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA07537 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:15:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA07303; Tue, 28 May 1996 15:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uu.elvisti.kiev.ua ([193.125.28.132]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id JAA06345 ; Tue, 28 May 1996 09:48:54 -0700 Received: from office.elvisti.kiev.ua (office.elvisti.kiev.ua [193.125.28.129]) by uu.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA15426; Tue, 28 May 1996 19:49:18 +0300 (EET DST) Received: (from stesin@localhost) by office.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.6.12/8.ElVisti) id TAA07502; Tue, 28 May 1996 19:49:11 +0300 From: "Andrew V. Stesin" Message-Id: <199605281649.TAA07502@office.elvisti.kiev.ua> Subject: Mysterious crashes of FreeBSD gateway -- caugh it(?) To: questions@freebsd.org, scsi@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 19:49:10 +0300 (EET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha5] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi people, I got some problems, and maybe someone can comment? A machine, our recently built firewall gateway to Internet, is: ATC-1425B mainboard, PCI, SiS 496/7 chipset; 16Mb RAM; AMD 5x133 CPU; NCR 53c810 SCSI; 1Gb Conner CFP1060S drive (recent, good one); two modems on the onboard COMs (SLIP lines to the world); 1 Ethernet card. OS: FreeBSD-stable as of late March. Add-ons: IPfilter 3.0.3+ (by Darren Reed) as in-kernel IP filtering facility, Squid 1.0beta7 WWW proxy cache daemon. The machine was experiencing spontaneous reboots from time to time. Either silent reboots, or prefaced with messages from NCR driver (like "NCR dead?"). When a Compex ReadyLink (DEC 21041-based) PCI ethernet was replaced by a random NE2000, the trouble almost gone -- the box was up for some days, just Ok. Today we were able to inspire a repeatable reboot with a misconfigured test machine on the same network. It has a gateway machine as a default router, and no route to another subnet, connected via FreeBSD-1.1.5-based host, was in the tables. So each packed from the test machine, destined to those subnet, was going to gateway first, then forwarded to 1.1.5 box, and ICMP redirect was sent to the test box about this from the gateway. When doing a massive TCP transfers to the 1.1.5-connected subnet, or even ping -f, a high network load was inspired on a gateway machine (receive a packet -- forvard it -- send redirect). NE2000 worked fine, but NCR driver started to through messages about I/O errors, "NCR dead", etc. Then gateway rebooted itself. What I want to ask. What might be the source of that trouble? Poor motherboard quality, when an overloaded (?! is it an overload?) either ISA or PCI bus forces NCR to go asleep? Or is it a bug in TCP/IP stack or IPfilter, or their interraction with NCR driver, tickled with the nessesity to process IP/ICMP packets at a very high rate? I strongly suspect a hardware problem, but maybe there are other opinions? -- With best regards -- Andrew Stesin. +380 (44) 2760188 +380 (44) 2713457 +380 (44) 2713560 "You may delegate authority, but not responsibility." Frank's Management Rule #1. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 17:06:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA16202 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:06:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-relay-2.mv.us.adobe.com (mail-relay-2.mv.us.adobe.com [130.248.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA16196 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-relay-2.mv.us.adobe.com; id RAA13165; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:06:01 -0700 Received: by mail-303 (8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA00421; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:08:00 -0700 Received: by water (8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA01442; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:11:00 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960529000558.006a937c@elroy> X-Sender: rlevenbe@elroy X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 17:05:58 -0700 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Richard Levenberg Subject: using /dev/random Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can anyone show me a code snippet of how to use /dev/random? I have tried several things including fdopen and read but I can't seem to get a random stream of bits. TIA. richardl ================================================ Richard Levenberg Adobe Systems Incorporated A7 Computer Expert Classification richardl@adobe.com ================================================ -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzBh+iEAAAEEANPybuG4Jm++3Ke+J7A2RJTrsY0HWriQkFHILqq9GlyjBs3P RHM6hBioeM5V+8sP1Fh1PqYoD+G5Io5HbmQY+KJc++ojNHTvp+/D6LZOh/tpzceX cNc2/ntdhsSSbxr8RCO0rbd62t9QefEFnWO2XjoEQ0Yg4596W0HY/DnEtuzpAAUT tCZSaWNoYXJkIExldmVuYmVyZyA8cmljaGFyZGxAYWRvYmUuY29tPg== =r/Xv -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 17:08:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA16420 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:08:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA16412 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:08:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALHOST (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA24963; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:10:17 -0700 Message-Id: <199605290010.RAA24963@riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu: Host LOCALHOST didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.4 10/10/95 To: Charles Henrich cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: xcdplayer on atapi cdrom? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 27 May 1996 15:34:34 EDT." <199605271934.PAA01085@crh.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 17:10:17 -0700 From: Doug White Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -------- > Hey Kids, has anyone gotten XCdplayer to work on /dev/rwcd0c? When I run it > all I get is: > > ioctl(cdromreadtocentry): Invalid argument > > However cdplay wcd0 works just peachy.. > > Any ideas? It's not supported? xcdplayer assumes a SCSI cdrom. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 17:25:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA17394 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA17387 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:25:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALHOST (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA25108; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:26:53 -0700 Message-Id: <199605290026.RAA25108@riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu: Host LOCALHOST didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.4 10/10/95 To: Fred Adorno cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: User ppp In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 27 May 1996 19:31:51 PDT." <1.5.4.32.19960528023151.00665e60@idt.liberty.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 17:26:52 -0700 From: Doug White Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -------- > Hello everyone, > > I have been having a bear of a time trying to get a script to work, but to > no success. It works fine when I do it manually. When I try to use lynx, > it stays idle indefinitely looking for the default start up page. Can you telnet in OK? Ping OK? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 17:32:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA17892 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:32:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eer-ss201.internet1.net (eer-ss201.internet1.net [206.152.115.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA17886 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:32:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by eer-ss201.internet1.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA06203 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 May 1996 20:31:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 20:31:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Super-User Message-Id: <199605290031.UAA06203@eer-ss201.internet1.net> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Header confilcts X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I have FreeBSD 2.5.0 installed and I seem to be having some problems compiling GNU software. Specifically GNU SED-2.5 and INN-1.4. I keep getting errors like the following: gcc -I../include -g -c checkart.c -o checkart.o In file included from checkart.c:8: ../include/clibrary.h:131: conflicting types for `_exit' /usr/include/unistd.h:53: previous declaration of `_exit' make[1]: *** [checkart.o] Error 1 Is there a problem with the BSD header file or do I need to modify these packages some how? I have installed the GNU-GCC-2.7.2 compiler and GNU-MAKE without problems, but the GNU-CLIBS would not install. Always seems to be a header conflict. Thank you for your time. Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this, but I don't know where to look, BSD or the packages. Matthew Hagerty Sysadmin internet1.net From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 17:39:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA18202 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:39:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from amy16.Stanford.EDU (amy16.Stanford.EDU [36.212.0.16]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA18195 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:39:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sparkles@localhost) by amy16.Stanford.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA17587; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:38:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 17:38:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert James Williamson To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Does FreeBSD have tcpdump? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I need tcpdump (or basically anything that will put the network card in promiscuous mode), because I am writing some traffic analysis software. Is this software written for FreeBSD? Thanks in advance! Rob ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Robert James Williamson #include sparkles@leland.stanford.edu #include HTTP://www-leland.stanford.edu/~sparkles/ #include ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 17:43:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA18465 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from amy16.Stanford.EDU (amy16.Stanford.EDU [36.212.0.16]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA18460 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:43:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sparkles@localhost) by amy16.Stanford.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA17590; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:43:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 17:43:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert James Williamson To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Where to get DEC FDDI (DEFPA/DEFEA) NICs drivers? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On http://www.freebsd.org/releases/latest/notes.html, it is listed that there are device drivers for the DEC FDDI (DEFPA/DEFEA) NICs. Do you know where I could get these drivers? I am having a hard time locating them. Thanks! Rob ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Robert James Williamson #include sparkles@leland.stanford.edu #include HTTP://www-leland.stanford.edu/~sparkles/ #include ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 17:47:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA18747 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:47:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA18738 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:47:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALHOST (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA25266; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:47:58 -0700 Message-Id: <199605290047.RAA25266@riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu: Host LOCALHOST didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.4 10/10/95 To: Robert Nicholson cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP... how does it work? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 28 May 1996 08:01:00 EDT." <199605281201.IAA03445@justine.elastica.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 17:47:58 -0700 From: Doug White Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -------- > Hi, is there any body on this list that has a good understanding as to > how PPP works? I do somewhat. Mainly with user PPP. > I ask because of all the times I've setup PPP I've only ever got it > going properly this way... > I've always have to configure my en0 regardless that I don't use > it. I've find that relying on just the PPP interface and lo0 never > works. PPP doesn't use the ethernet interface. It uses the 'tun0' tunnel device for it's magic. When PPP makes the connection it will handle configuring the tun0 interface; all you have to do is add a couple of routes. > Now, I've always had to configure en0 because I need to refer to > justine, justine.elastica.com when the interface is offline > . ie. sendmail, inn etc. Routing should take care of this. > So, if you aren't using your NIC I'd be interested in hearing how > you've configured PPP. Like normal, just adding appropriate routes. If you don't even configure the device then even better. > also, I ask all of this because I'm having a bitch of a time getting > dp-4.0 and Solaris 2.5 working under Solaris x86. I don't do slowaris. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 17:52:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA19158 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:52:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA19024 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:52:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ac16317; 29 May 96 1:51 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa26613; 29 May 96 1:10 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id VAA10630; Tue, 28 May 1996 21:33:17 GMT Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 21:33:17 GMT Message-Id: <199605282133.VAA10630@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: jrclark@felix.iupui.edu CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <2.2.32.19960527180313.0030d2dc@felix.iupui.edu> (message from John Clark on Mon, 27 May 1996 17:58:22 -0500) Subject: Re: emergency boot floppy documentation Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I am looking for documentation on creating an emergency boot floppy. grab boot.flp and fixit.flp from the floppies directory on ftp.freebsd.org, or from the CDROM, and do something like dd if=boot.flp of=/dev/fd0a bs=16384 -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland jraynard@dial.pipex.com james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 17:52:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA19177 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:52:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA19125 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:52:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ac16344; 29 May 96 1:51 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa26612; 29 May 96 1:10 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id VAA10643; Tue, 28 May 1996 21:39:53 GMT Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 21:39:53 GMT Message-Id: <199605282139.VAA10643@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: john@starfire.mn.org CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199605280218.VAA08299@starfire.mn.org> (john@starfire.mn.org) Subject: Re: printed form tool? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Please reply to me directly, as I don't subscribe to this list... > Are there tools for generating printed forms, like for paper > record keeping? Thanks! Have a look in the graphics ports/packages. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland jraynard@dial.pipex.com james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 17:59:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA19876 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA19867 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 17:59:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ag20767; 29 May 96 0:59 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa26747; 29 May 96 1:11 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id WAA11578; Tue, 28 May 1996 22:51:07 GMT Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 22:51:07 GMT Message-Id: <199605282251.WAA11578@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: terry@lambert.org CC: malvin@webquest.com, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199605272358.QAA09637@phaeton.artisoft.com> (message from Terry Lambert on Mon, 27 May 1996 16:58:28 -0700 (MST)) Subject: Re: login name Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Edit the line in /usr/src/include/utmp.h that says > > > > #define UT_NAMESIZE 8 > > > > and do 'make world' in /usr/src > Anyone have an unmodified source tree from a dist (other than on CDROM)? In my slightly-modified -current source tree:- $ pwd /usr/src $ perl ~james/bin/rgrep UT_NAMESIZE ./bin/pax/gen_subs.c #defines UT_NAMESIZE if not already #defined. ./include/stdio.h #define L_cuserid 9 (ie UT_NAMESIZE + 1). ./include/utmp.h # The definition. ./lib/libc/gen/getpwent.c ./lib/libc/gen/pwcache.c ./lib/libutil/logout.c ./libexec/rpc.rusersd/rusers_proc.c ./sys/i386/boot/dosboot/sysparam.h # See below. ./sys/sys/param.h # See below. ./usr.bin/chpass/pw_yp.c ./usr.bin/find/ls.c # Used to format output. ./usr.bin/finger/finger.c ./usr.bin/finger/sprint.c # Used to format output. ./usr.bin/finger/util.c # Used in truncating person's name. ./usr.bin/last/last.c # Used to format output. ./usr.bin/lastcomm/lastcomm.c # Used to format output. ./usr.bin/login/login.c # Used in truncating name. ./usr.bin/users/users.c ./usr.bin/w/w.c # Used to format output. ./usr.bin/who/who.c # Used to format output. ./usr.sbin/ac/ac.c # Used to format output. ./usr.sbin/syslogd/syslogd.c (I've not bothered to comment when it's used just for manipulating utmp entries or for allocating auto variables to hold user names). In both sys/i386/boot/dosboot/sysparam.h and sys/sys/param.h, there's a comment saying that MAXLOGNAME should be >= UT_NAMESIZE. There seem to be a few hidden dependencies. 8-( -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland jraynard@dial.pipex.com james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 18:03:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA20248 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 18:03:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA20243 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 18:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id SAA09972 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 18:02:56 -0700 Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ak16460; 29 May 96 2:01 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa26740; 29 May 96 1:11 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id XAA11591; Tue, 28 May 1996 23:01:56 GMT Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 23:01:56 GMT Message-Id: <199605282301.XAA11591@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: andrsn@stanford.edu CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, andrsn@hoover.stanford.edu In-reply-to: (message from Annelise Anderson on Mon, 27 May 1996 20:57:09 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: PPP Server Question Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > This usually means that everything's set up right, *except* for your > > home computer not having a default route set. > > It does have a default route set--to the office machine: Oh. I think I misunderstood your last post (mea culpa). Presumably you wanted to run gated on your *office* machine? > > If your office computer can talk to the outside world, and has IP > > forwarding enabled, setting a default route on your home computer > > *should* be all that's needed. > > Well, it doesn't seem to be working. There must be a piece missing. > Any other ideas? I don't really know anything about routing - sorry. Perhaps if you post your office machine's routing table, someone else might be able to see what the problem is. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland jraynard@dial.pipex.com james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 18:21:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA21625 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 18:21:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crh.cl.msu.edu (crh.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.24]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA21614 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 18:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from henrich@localhost) by crh.cl.msu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00320 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 May 1996 21:20:59 -0400 From: Charles Henrich Message-Id: <199605290120.VAA00320@crh.cl.msu.edu> Subject: Sup of cdrom.com /pub/FreeBSD ? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 21:20:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As mirror seems to be hopelessly broken, and sup seems to be quite a nifty tool, is there any chance of being able to do a sup of cdrom.com's /pub/FreeBSD tree? -Crh Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@msu.edu http://pilot.msu.edu/~henrich From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 18:30:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA22143 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 18:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA22115 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 18:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.7.5/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with ESMTP id SAA06698 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 18:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-1) with ESMTP id CAA13844; Wed, 29 May 1996 02:26:46 +0100 (BST) To: Jamil Weatherbee cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Support for your SMC 9332 NIC (fwd) In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 28 May 1996 15:52:27 PDT." Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 02:26:45 +0100 Message-ID: <13841.833333205@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jamil Weatherbee wrote in message ID : > Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 10:20:48 -0500 > From: John Clark > To: support@cdrom.com > Subject: Support for your SMC 9332 NIC > > Support, > > I see from your catalog that you use the SMC 9332 (DC21140 based) NIC. I > assume this is the SMC "EtherPower 10/100." Looking in the 2.1 kernel, I do > not see support for such a board, which is it? It's the `if_de' device. And there is definately support in the 2.1R kernel. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 19:03:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA24262 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 19:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MindBender.HeadCandy.com (root@[199.238.225.168]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA24245; Tue, 28 May 1996 19:03:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.HeadCandy.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA09834; Tue, 28 May 1996 19:03:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199605290203.TAA09834@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.HeadCandy.com: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: "Aaron D. Gifford" cc: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Support for BusLogic BT958? (SCSI III UltraWide) In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 28 May 96 10:41:29 -0600. <2.2.32.19960528164129.00b40d1c@infowest.com> Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 19:03:05 -0700 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Is there/will there be support for BusLogic's MultiMaster 958 PCI SCSI >UltraWide controller? It is my understanding that the BT958 is a superior >SCSI UltraWide controller. Does anyone know if this is true/false? How >does it compare against Adaptec's 2940UW? The bt driver has always supported the BT958, even before it existed. :-) The bt driver supports *every* BusLogic SCSI controller, with the same interface, except the new FlashPoint controllers. Consult http://www.buslogic.com/ if you need help telling the difference... There have been a whole ton of posts on this, already (especially in the last couple months on current-users and/or port-i386@NetBSD.org -- you might want to see if it's in the archives over there). The Adaptec is a more modern design with lower command overhead. On very fast drives, on a very fast system, it has the potential to be faster. On my system (cheap drives, 486), I doubt I'd know the difference (I use the BusLogic BT747 EISA controller). The BusLogic is an excellent quality controller, but the technology in the BT742-based designs (which includes the BT958) is older than the Adaptec 2xxx controllers, being more like the Adaptec 174x. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@HeadCandy.com --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... Roll your own Internet access -- Seattle People's Internet cooperative. If you're in the Seattle area, ask me how. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 19:28:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA26081 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 19:28:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA26062 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 19:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-1) with ESMTP id DAA13970; Wed, 29 May 1996 03:27:39 +0100 (BST) To: Robert James Williamson cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Where to get DEC FDDI (DEFPA/DEFEA) NICs drivers? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 28 May 1996 17:43:00 PDT." Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 03:27:37 +0100 Message-ID: <13967.833336857@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Robert James Williamson wrote in message ID : > > On http://www.freebsd.org/releases/latest/notes.html, it is listed > that there are device drivers for the DEC FDDI (DEFPA/DEFEA) NICs. Do you > know where I could get these drivers? I am having a hard time locating > them. They are part of the source code. Driver name fea for the DEFEA EISA FDDI adapter, and fpa for the DEFPA PCI FDDI adapter. See /sys/i386/conf/LINT for more. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 19:43:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA27191 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 19:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA27186 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 19:43:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA02501 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 May 1996 19:43:09 -0700 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199605290243.TAA02501@MediaCity.com> Subject: FramerMaker via SCO emulation? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 19:43:09 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: brian@MediaCity.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Will Frame Technologies FrameMaker for SCO run via SCO emulation? Thanks, -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 20:39:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA00379 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 20:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA00373 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 20:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ab12433; 29 May 96 4:39 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa26758; 29 May 96 1:11 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id VAA10548; Tue, 28 May 1996 21:11:44 GMT Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 21:11:44 GMT Message-Id: <199605282111.VAA10548@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: ptroot@uswest.com CC: p.richards@elsevier.co.uk, terry@lambert.org, branson@longstreet.larc.nasa.gov, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199605281539.KAA25562@astro.acs.uswest.com> (ptroot@uswest.com) Subject: Re: Er... how long Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > A threaded mail reader would be really usefull. > > Both elm and Netscape will thread your mail. As will pine and Emacs's rmail. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland jraynard@dial.pipex.com james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 21:28:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA03531 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 21:28:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from salsa.habaneros.com ([207.34.140.99]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA03525 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 21:28:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jalapeno.habaneros.com (jalapeno [207.34.140.98]) by salsa.habaneros.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA11593 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 21:14:44 -0700 Received: by jalapeno.habaneros.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BB4CDB.F138C940@jalapeno.habaneros.com>; Tue, 28 May 1996 21:23:41 -0700 Message-ID: <01BB4CDB.F138C940@jalapeno.habaneros.com> From: "Neil C. Jensen" To: "'questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: help compiling SSLeay 0.5.2a Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 21:23:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I run into the following errors when attempting to comile SSLeay 0.5.2.a on 2.1R. making ssl... making rsaref... making apps... gcc -../include -D_ANSI_SOURCE -DHAVE_MD -O2 -m486 -Wall -c apps.c In file included from apps.c:51: /usr/include/sys/stat.h:55: parse error before 'ino_t' /usr/include/sys/stat.h:55: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union ... ... ... /usr/include/sys/stat.h:195: parse error before `u_long' /usr/include/sys/stat.h:196: parse error before `u_long' /usr/include/sys/stat.h:197: parse error before `mode_t' apps.c: In function `args_from_file': apps.c:65: storage size of `stbuf' isn't known apps.c:65: warning: unused variable `stbuf' apps.c:61: warning: `len' might be used uninitialized in this function *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 I first used the 'Configure FreeBSD' command. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Neil Jensen Habanero Studios Ltd. Vancouver, BC From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 21:36:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA04149 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 21:36:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homer19.u.washington.edu (durang@homer19.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA04142 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 21:36:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by homer19.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA75639; Tue, 28 May 96 21:36:15 -0700 Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 21:36:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Ken Marsh To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Boot Manager not working. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just installed BSD on hd1. hd0 is all DOS. When I went to boot, I got this: NO ROM BASIC SYSTEM HALTED I had to dig out my Norton Rescue Disk to get back a DOS prompt. If I use the booteasy program in tools, will I just get this problem again? I would sooner boot from floppy, but I'd like to have it all working right. Is this a sign of a faulty motherboard. If it is, it isn't the first. Ken Marsh From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 21:48:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA05072 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 21:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA05067 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 21:48:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Root.COM (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA00202; Tue, 28 May 1996 21:48:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199605290448.VAA00202@Root.COM> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.Root.COM: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Jamil Weatherbee cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, John Clark Subject: Re: Support for your SMC 9332 NIC (fwd) In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 28 May 1996 15:52:27 PDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 21:48:37 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Support, > >I see from your catalog that you use the SMC 9332 (DC21140 based) NIC. I >assume this is the SMC "EtherPower 10/100." Looking in the 2.1 kernel, I do >not see support for such a board, which is it? The EtherPower 10/100 is supported in 2.1 via the "de" driver. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 22:49:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA08123 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 22:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hoover.stanford.edu (hoover.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.99]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA08118 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 22:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU by HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #13307) id <01I597W666DC007Q9K@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU>; Tue, 28 May 1996 22:49:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 22:49:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson Subject: Re: set erase to ^H before login To: jrclark@felix.iupui.edu Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: <01I597W66PO2007Q9K@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"jrclark@felix.iupui.edu" X-VMS-Cc: IN%"freebsd-questions@freebsd.org",ANDRSN MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Hello, >I access my FreeBSD server primarily from a PC. After I login, I have the >shell script set erase to ^H (stty crt erase ^H), but before I login is when >I really need to do this. If I mess-up my login, I must use crtl+backspace >to erase (instead of backspace, as is the case after login). Properly >configuring this (getty) seems to be beyond my current abilities. Can >anyone help? It seems to me that before you log in, your keyboard mapping is being controlled by the software you're running on your pc, and you have to configure it. Programs like ProComm have terminal emulations and keyboard mapping capabilities. Annelise > --John > [jrclark@indy.net] From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 22:58:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA08433 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 22:58:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.aros.net (mailhub.aros.net [205.164.111.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA08428 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 22:58:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from terra.aros.net (terra.aros.net [205.164.111.10]) by mailhub.aros.net (8.7.5/Unknown) with ESMTP id AAA01516; Wed, 29 May 1996 00:29:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from angio@localhost) by terra.aros.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) id XAA06395; Tue, 28 May 1996 23:58:42 -0600 From: Dave Andersen Message-Id: <199605290558.XAA06395@terra.aros.net> Subject: Re: ELM Config To: dlr@asylum.org (dlr) Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 23:58:42 -0600 (MDT) Cc: PLAZAS_CHRISTIAN@mercury.csg.peachnet.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605282207.RAA18160@asylum.asylum.org> from "dlr" at May 28, 96 05:07:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 PGP2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You've got elm configured for the wrong type of locking, most likely. I'd guess that you have it set to use dotlocking instead of fcntl() or flock(), and have it installed (as you do) without being setuid mail. Either recompile it to use flock()/fcntl(), or make it setgid whatever your mail spool directory is. -Dave Andersen Lo and behold, dlr once said: > > Got elm to compile fine but seem to be having a problem with either > lockfiles or perms. Could someone send me their config file or tell me > how they have it set up to work. I have 2 bsd boxes that i can't get elm > to work on (v2.0 and v2.1) and it is something stupid that i am overlooking. > > Elm starts up, then dies trying 6 times saying waiting for mail to arrive. > Pine works fine but uggh. > > ls -al /usr/local/bin/elm > -rwxr-xr-x 1 bin bin 364779 May 28 16:18 /usr/local/bin/elm > > /var/mail/ > drwxr-xr-x 2 bin bin 512 May 28 16:53 mail > > > /var/spool/lock > drwxrwxr-x 2 uucp dialer 512 Nov 16 1995 lock > > thanks, > > dave racette > -- angio@aros.net Complete virtual hosting and business-oriented system administration Internet services. (WWW, FTP, email) http://www.aros.net/ http://www.aros.net/about/virtual "There are only two industries that refer to thier customers as 'users'." From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 23:14:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA09278 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 23:14:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harbor.silcom.com (harbor.silcom.com [199.201.128.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA09272 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 23:14:10 -0700 (PDT) From: garys@silcom.com Received: from beach.silcom.com (root@beach.silcom.com [199.201.128.19]) by harbor.silcom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA04436 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 23:15:44 -0700 Received: from oak by beach.silcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1) id XAA22011; Tue, 28 May 1996 23:12:10 -0700 Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 23:12:10 -0700 Message-Id: <199605290612.XAA22011@beach.silcom.com> X-Sender: garys@silcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Support for DEC Alpha ? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Do you support, or plan to support the DEC Alpha? Thank You, Scott Gary garys@ibexllc.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 23:25:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA10099 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 23:25:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from donald.iafrica.com (root@donald.iafrica.com [196.31.1.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA10054 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 23:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ryan@localhost) by donald.iafrica.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id IAA07346; Wed, 29 May 1996 08:25:29 +0200 (SAT) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 08:25:29 +0200 (SAT) From: Ryan Loots To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: email problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi There I have something really strange going on with my mail. I have 7 users on my machine who all use pine, a .forward file, and a .procmailrc There mail all gets to them, but mine does not... for some unknown strange reason which I can not resolve myself. Included is a copy of one of the users .forward file and mine. Here is a users... "| IFS=' ' && p=/usr/local/bin/procmail && test -f $p && exec $p -Yf- || exit 75 #natasha" and here is mine: "| IFS=' ' && p=/usr/local/bin/procmail && test -f $p && exec $p -Yf- || exit 75 #ryan" [donald] /home/ryan # ls -la .forward -rwxr-xr-x 1 ryan wheel 112 May 29 08:15 .forward [donald] /home/natasha # ls -la .forward -rw-rw-r-- 1 natasha guest 91 May 21 15:22 .forward included is a copy of my .procmailrc LOGFILE=/home/ryan/mail/logs DEFAULT=/var/mail/ryan :0: *donald daily run output /home/ryan/mail/donald :0: *donald security check output /home/ryan/mail/donald :0: *donald weekly run output /home/ryan/mail/donald :0: *tcpd /home/ryan/mail/tcpd :0: * ^From: Your Boss /dev/null :0: *callbacks /home/ryan/mail/callbacks :0: *rosi /home/ryan/mail/rosi :0: *freebsd-announce /home/ryan/mail/freebsd-announce :0: *freebsd-bugs /home/ryan/mail/freebsd-bugs :0: *freebsd-hackers /home/ryan/mail/freebsd-hackers :0: *freebsd-multimedia /home/ryan/mail/freebsd-multimedia :0: *freebsd-hardware /home/ryan/mail/freebsd-hardware :0: *ryan /home/ryan/mail/ryan :0: *Port usage /home/ryan/mail/portusage :0: *root /home/ryan/mail/root :0: *Internet Africa Operations /home/ryan/mail/ops :0: *Internet Africa Helpdesk /home/ryan/mail/help :0: *help /home/ryan/mail/help :0: *Help /home/ryan/mail/help :0: *Pipex Support /home/ryan/mail/help :0: *ops /home/ryan/mail/ops :0: *helpdesk /home/ryan/mail/ryan :0: *hd /home/ryan/mail/ryan :0: *khetan /home/ryan/mail/ryan :0: *rhapsody /home/ryan/mail/rhapsody Does anybody have any brights ideas, if I remove my .forward file, I get my mail, so this one has kinda got me! Yours sincerely Ryan From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 28 23:50:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA13110 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 1996 23:50:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mnemosyne.muse.com.au ([203.26.7.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA13088 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 23:50:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from www@localhost) by mnemosyne.muse.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA00896; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:50:19 +1000 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 16:50:19 +1000 (EST) From: Richard Beyer To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Help compiling NCSA HTTPd Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, When compiling NCSA HTTPd I get the following error: Undefined symbol '_crypt' referenced from text segment I'm assuming it's an extra library somewhere, but where? 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From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 00:01:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA13954 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 00:01:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from upsmot02.msn.com (upsmot02.msn.com [204.95.110.79]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA13948 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 00:01:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from upmajb02.msn.com (upmajb02.msn.com [204.95.110.74]) by upsmot02.msn.com (8.6.8.1/Configuration 4) with SMTP id XAA17338 for ; Tue, 28 May 1996 23:59:49 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 May 96 06:59:34 UT From: "Steve Chen" Message-Id: To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: stevec@msn.com Subject: installation Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! Few weeks ago, I bought the FreeBSD 2.1 and tried to install it to one of my computers. The computer equiped with: 80486 CPU: 66MHz One adaptec 2840vl/2842vl SCSI controller which control my quad speed SONY CDROM. One EIDE controller with an 814MB hard drive. One NE2000 compatible ethernet card. One 14.4Kbps internal fax modern. A Diamond Stealth SE video card with 1M memory on board. A 15" MAGVAVOX MAGNASCAN/15 monitor with Horizontal frequency:30-66KHz and Vertical frequence 50-11Hz. Because I encounter so many problems while I tried to install FreeBSD to my system, I even get a FreeBSD 2.2 Snapshot and the booklet: Installing and Running FreeBSD and hope if they could help me. After I read the booklet, I have some questions. (1) Is there any way that I can install FreeBSD to my computer with above equipment? (2) If the answer is "NO", what should I do to install the FreeBSD in my computer with the minimum cost? If I add a extra SCSI hard drive and set it as D drive, would it be easier to install? Or, if, I took the EIDE controller and the 814 hard drive out of my computer and install a SCSI hard drive, would it be helpful? (3) The original disk Geometry was: 1654 cyls/ 16 heads/ 63 sectors During the repartition, the disk Geometry became: 827 cyls/ 32 heads/63 sectors And a disk space disagrement message would display while installation. I really need some help to solve these problems. thanks Steve From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 00:32:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA15100 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 00:32:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from citecuh.citec.qld.gov.au (citecuh.citec.qld.gov.au [203.5.10.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA15093 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 00:31:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by citecuh.citec.qld.gov.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA03049 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 17:24:02 +1000 (EST) Received: from citecub.citec.qld.gov.au(131.242.4.98) by citecuh.citec.qld.gov.au via smap (V1.3) id /mail/incoming/sma003037; Wed May 29 17:23:52 1996 Received: by citecub.citec.qld.gov.au (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA01181; Wed, 29 May 1996 17:29:29 +1000 Received: from osimp58 by qdot.qld.gov.au (4.1) id AA13910; Wed, 29 May 96 17:33:46 EST Message-Id: <9605290733.AA13910@qdot.qld.gov.au> Date: Wed, 29 May 96 17:33:42 -0700 From: Chris Gofton Organization: Queensland Department of Transport X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2 (Windows; I; 16bit) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I seem to be getting mail from the "freebsd-chat@freeBSD.ORG" chat group. I was wondering if you are able to remove users from this chat group. Chris. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 01:13:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA17186 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 01:13:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fisbin.remuda.com (fisbin.remuda.com [199.238.225.162]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA17131; Wed, 29 May 1996 01:12:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (scotto@localhost) by fisbin.remuda.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA01656; Wed, 29 May 1996 01:11:52 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 01:11:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Overholser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org Subject: SOLVED-->Re: sendmail read errors/timeouts etc. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk thanks all for the suggestions. some of you spent more than a few token cycles on this problem for me - thanks. the short answer is that i was running with an mtu of 296 via my 28.8 connection. the 296 was a relic from the 14.4 days. anyway, i changed it to 1500 and the problems are gone - it was like flipping a switch. the problem began when i replaced my rusty linux box running slip with the freebsd box running ppp. the troublesome sites apparently blocked tcp frags improperly (i know very little about implementing firewalls). i verified that with the nintendo folks. i can only guess about microsoft and msn. regardless, my problem is gone. thanks, scotto On Fri, 17 May 1996, Scott Overholser wrote: > sorry for spamming all these lists. i turned up hits on all of them when > i searched the mailing list archives. > > i recently replaced my email gateway with a freebsd 2.1.0 box. prior to > that it was a linux box (different hardware) running sendmail 8.6.11 and > 100% trouble free. now though, i am seeing sendmail errors when sending to > a few select sites. in addition, i see them when i receive from the same > sites. > > the troublesome sites (that i know of) are microsoft.com, msn.com, and > noa.com. i *absolutely* cannot send mail to recipient@microsoft.com or > recipient@noa.com. i seem to be able to send mail to recipient@msn.com > but i cannot receive mail from msn.com. mail to/from other sites is no > problem. > > here are some sample messages (although based on my search through the > archives, many of you have seen them before): > ---------->%snip>%---------- > com. [205.166.76.99], stat=Deferred: Operation timed out during client QUIT with > bowser.noa.com. > > m. [131.107.3.23], stat=Deferred: Connection reset by peer during client QUIT wi > th abash1.microsoft.com. > > May 15 00:31:17 fisbin sendmail[566]: XAA00566: SYSERR(root): collect: read time > out on connection from upsmot02.msn.com, from= > ---------->%snip>%---------- > > there are many more...mostly from the same sites though. i've checked > everything i can think of - dns config, resolver config, sendmail config > (cranked the timeouts absurdly high). nothing phases the problem. i don't > suspect hardware because of the number of posts from others having the > same problem. > > oh yeah, i also turned on sendmail logging and waded through that mess. it > looks like all the mail is xferred to the remote host on outbound mail and > xferred to my host on inbound mail but it dies on the QUIT. > > the really strange thing is that i don't get the errors when sending > directly to some hosts at microsoft. for example, if i send mail to > a-scotov@microsoft.com i may as well beat my head against a wall. on the > other hand, if i send the mail to a-scotov@exchange.microsoft.com the mail > is delivered (and i can send mail from a-scotov@exchange.microsoft.com to > scotto@remuda.com) - in case you hadn't guessed, i earn my daily bread at > microsoft. the difference between the two addresses is that the > exchange.microsoft.com address is an experimental mail server running > various stable builds of ms exchange. the microsoft.com address is the main > corporate gateway(s) running the shipping version of microsoft exchange. > > well, enough gab. does anyone have a solution to this problem?! this is > growing old. i know there are lots of folks out there on these mailing lists > that have had this problem. > > the only real answer suggested in the responses was from david greenman "these > are likely caused by transient connectivity hickups on the internet and can > almost certainly be ignored." however, i've gotta agree with john brogan who > said (over a year ago - with freebsd 1.1.5.1) "about 15 or 16 systems have > had this exact same problem...about 7,000 have not had any problems..." that's > exactly what i'm seeing (sort of). mail works but for a few sites - which > unfortunately i must correspond with on a daily basis. > > i confess a certain discomfort in suspecting the os rather than sendmail. > however, i've used sendmail for a long time and never experienced anything > like this without being able to attribute it to something i can sink my teeth > into. i certainly have a problem swallowing "transient network errors" > especially when the mail archives are peppered with posts from folks asking > the same question for over a year - not to mention the fact that i can send > email to/from sites other than the troublesome ones mentioned above whilst > my netbsd and linux running comrades don't seem to be experiencing any of > these troubles (i happen to be alone in running freebsd amonst a sea of > linux'ers and netbsd'ers). > > well, sorry for the spam, the length, and above all - the quasi-soapbox. > > if anyone at all has taken the time to read this fully, i appreciate it and > hope for a speedy solution. this weekend i'll probably switch the scsi ids > on my external drives and install netbsd to see if it fares any better in > sending mail to recip@microsoft.com et al. > > thanks > scotto > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 02:39:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA22192 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 02:39:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA22180 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 02:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id LAA09574; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:39:10 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (LAA01394); Wed, 29 May 1996 11:19:10 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199605291119.LAA01394@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: vi + char > 128 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 11:19:10 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! Somebody asked, how can we use chars with code > 128 under vi. Now, I downloaded the nvi-1.66.ALPHA, and in it there is a line, we have to set the LC_CTYPE environment variable to some locale. (In the nvi doc, there is a line about the LANG variable, but it doesn't need.) So the only thing: sh/ksh/bash: LC_CTYPE=lt_LN.ISO_8859-1 export LC_CTYPE csh/tcsh: setenv LC_CTYPE lt_LN.ISO_8859-1 (or use some user-defined locale from /usr/share/locale) That's it. It has only one problem: in the definition of the locales, the characters between 128 and 160 are defined as non-printable, so these characters displayed as 0xuv or \xyz (as the octal flag says) Opps! I tried the russian locales, and it's good, so instead of lt_..., use: ru_SU.CP866 or ru_SU.KOI8-R, and you can see everything on the screen. Of course, it works with the vi (nvi-1.34) in the 2.1.0R installation, too. so the best method is to use an alias: alias vi='env LC_CTYPE=ru_SU.CP866 vi' (or alias vi 'env LC_CTYPE=ru_SU.CP866 vi' in csh) -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 02:39:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA22194 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 02:39:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA22181 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 02:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id LAA09577; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:39:16 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (LAA01464); Wed, 29 May 1996 11:29:22 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199605291129.LAA01464@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: screen font file format To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 11:29:22 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! What's the format of a screen font file (with syscons)? Or are there anybody out there, who made a Hungarian screen font file? (In Hungary there are so many code tables, under Unix, we have to use the ISO-8859/2 table.) Thanx, Gabor -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 03:48:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA25242 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 03:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA25237 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 03:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.7.5/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with SMTP id DAA12057 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 03:48:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uOikH-000QY9C; Wed, 29 May 96 12:44 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA20174; Wed, 29 May 1996 12:39:18 +0200 Message-Id: <199605291039.MAA20174@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: booting takes forever To: chris@enteract.com (dcastle) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 12:39:18 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "dcastle" at May 28, 96 01:11:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk dcastle writes: > > > I just installed FreeBSD 2.1 on a 486 box, and I'm having trouble with > it hanging during bootup. > It gets to this point: > > add net default: gateway 204.119.47.50 > > (204.119.47.50 is the default gateway used by the entire office.) It > hangs on the above line for probably 5-10 minutes. Eventually it will > boot up, and the default gateway DOES work. Are you sure that it's that long? This is typically a name server lookup timeout, which takes about a minute, though it seems like an hour. > I've also noticed that if I ^C at the point where it hangs, it > continues booting again until it tries to start sendmail. It then hangs > at sendmail until I ^C again. Then I finally get the login prompt. Yup, those are the symptoms. > Thanx in advance for any help you might be able to throw my way. The first case suggests that you probably have something like route_loopback="${hostname} localhost" in your /etc/sysconfig. If you're using a name server (either directly or indirectly), it will try to resolve this name by first asking for a top-level domain called 'localhost.'. When this fails, it will then look for a name 'localhost..' This will usually be OK, so it will succeed and continue. The answer to this one, which is especially important if you're on a dialup link, is to add the fully qualified name. For example, I have: route_loopback="${hostname} localhost.lemis.de." The period at the end isn't a mistake, it's to show that this is an absolute domain name. That might be overkill here, but it's less ambiguous. The fact that you hang in these two places suggests to me that your name server configuration isn't working correctly. Could that be the case? By default, sendmail also does some name server lookups, and that's what it's hanging on. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 04:15:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA27381 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 04:15:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.barrnet.net (mail.barrnet.net [131.119.246.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA27375 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 04:15:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by mail.barrnet.net (8.7.5/MAIL-RELAY-LEN) with SMTP id EAA12134 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 04:15:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uOjDL-000Qc6C; Wed, 29 May 96 13:14 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA20243; Wed, 29 May 1996 12:52:59 +0200 Message-Id: <199605291052.MAA20243@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: ELM Config To: dlr@asylum.org (dlr) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 12:52:59 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: PLAZAS_CHRISTIAN@mercury.csg.peachnet.edu, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199605282207.RAA18160@asylum.asylum.org> from "dlr" at May 28, 96 05:07:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk dlr writes: > > Got elm to compile fine but seem to be having a problem with either > lockfiles or perms. Could someone send me their config file or tell me > how they have it set up to work. I have 2 bsd boxes that i can't get elm > to work on (v2.0 and v2.1) and it is something stupid that i am overlooking. Why did you recompile it? It's there as standard. > Elm starts up, then dies trying 6 times saying waiting for mail to arrive. > Pine works fine but uggh. This looks like it might be related to an ugly compatibility bug between 4.3BSD and 4.4BSD. On earlier systems, struct flock is defined as struct flock { short l_type; /* F_RDLCK, F_WRLCK, or F_UNLCK */ short l_whence; /* flag to choose starting offset */ long l_start; /* relative offset, in bytes */ long l_len; /* length, in bytes; 0 means lock to EOF */ pid_t l_pid; /* returned with F_GETLK */ }; (this is from SunOS 4.1.3), but in 4.4BSD it is defined as struct flock { off_t l_start; /* starting offset */ off_t l_len; /* len = 0 means until end of file */ pid_t l_pid; /* lock owner */ short l_type; /* lock type: read/write, etc. */ short l_whence; /* type of l_start */ }; The rationale for this is that some architectures can't place an 8-byte offset on a 4 byte boundary, so there would be a 4 byte gap between l_whence and l_start in the first example. By placing the 8 byte values at the beginning, they avoid this hole, but they caused a number of problems. In your case, I'd guess that *something* is defining struct flock wrongly, probably not the system header files. If you have compiled elm on a Net/2 based system such as FreeBSD 1.x or BSD/386 1.x, you'll see exactly this problem only on FreeBSD or BSD/OS 2.x. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 04:17:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA27514 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 04:17:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA27508 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 04:17:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uOjDK-000Qc0C; Wed, 29 May 96 13:14 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA20260; Wed, 29 May 1996 13:05:27 +0200 Message-Id: <199605291105.NAA20260@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: Header confilcts To: root@eer-ss201.internet1.net (Super-User) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 13:05:27 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199605290031.UAA06203@eer-ss201.internet1.net> from "Super-User" at May 28, 96 08:31:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Super-User writes: > > I have FreeBSD 2.5.0 installed and I seem to be having some problems > compiling GNU software. Specifically GNU SED-2.5 and INN-1.4. I keep getting > errors like the following: > > gcc -I../include -g -c checkart.c -o checkart.o > In file included from checkart.c:8: > ../include/clibrary.h:131: conflicting types for `_exit' > /usr/include/unistd.h:53: previous declaration of `_exit' > make[1]: *** [checkart.o] Error 1 > > Is there a problem with the BSD header file or do I need to modify these > packages some how? I'm afraid there are too many packages which try to out-guess the system header files. The reason is that too many commercial systems don't supply complete header files, so if you compile expecting prototypes, you have to supply your own definitions of system header files. These commercial systems are, of course, incomplete. FreeBSD is not incomplete, but the packages guess wrong. The best thing to do is to #ifdef out the corresponding sections of the header files in the packages (use #ifndef FreeBSD). > I have installed the GNU-GCC-2.7.2 compiler and GNU-MAKE without > problems, but the GNU-CLIBS would not install. Always seems to be a > header conflict. Do you mean GNU libc? Why would you want to do that? > Thank you for your time. Sorry if this is the wrong place to post > this, but I don't know where to look, BSD or the packages. I think this is a valid, if somewhat technical question. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 04:42:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA28658 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 04:42:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA28638; Wed, 29 May 1996 04:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id VAA00638; Wed, 29 May 1996 21:23:03 +1000 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 21:23:03 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199605291123.VAA00638@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, scotto@remuda.com Subject: Re: SOLVED-->Re: sendmail read errors/timeouts etc. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >the short answer is that i was running with an mtu of 296 via my 28.8 >connection. >... >the troublesome sites apparently blocked tcp frags improperly (i know very >little about implementing firewalls). i verified that with the nintendo >folks. i can only guess about microsoft and msn. regardless, my problem >is gone. Some microsoft networks are reported to respond incorrectly to mtu discovery packets. Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 04:45:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA28897 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 04:45:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA28892 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 04:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id NAA11816; Wed, 29 May 1996 13:45:03 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (LAA01732); Wed, 29 May 1996 11:51:40 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199605291151.LAA01732@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: Does FreeBSD have tcpdump? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 11:51:40 +0000 (GMT) Cc: sparkles@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert James Williamson) In-Reply-To: from "Robert James Williamson" at May 28, 96 05:38:56 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I need tcpdump (or basically anything that will put the network > card in promiscuous mode), because I am writing some traffic analysis > software. Is this software written for FreeBSD? I don't know, is it written for FreeBSD (I think - no, it's written for a previous version of BSD), but it's in the original installed version. So try to run it (it's in the /usr/sbin directory), but before: 1) generate a new kernel with packet-filter configured 2) make the packet-filter devices with /dev/MAKEDEV 3) man bpf 4) man tcpdump -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 04:46:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA28937 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 04:46:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA28932 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 04:46:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uOjgq-000QcBC; Wed, 29 May 96 13:45 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA20363; Wed, 29 May 1996 13:19:09 +0200 Message-Id: <199605291119.NAA20363@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: Keybord Map To: rui@interop.com.br (rui) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 13:19:09 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "rui" at May 27, 96 03:54:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk rui writes: > > Dear Sir.. > > I bought FreeBSD 2.1 ... and I`ve got some doubts.. > > How can I map my keyboard to my apropriate country ? Look in the directory /usr/share/syscons/keymaps/: danish.cp865.kbd german.iso.kbd ru.koi8-r.kbd swedish.iso.kbd danish.iso.kbd jp.106.kbd ru.koi8-r.shift.kbd uk.cp850.kbd fr.iso.kbd jp.106x.kbd spanish.iso.kbd uk.iso.kbd german.cp850.kbd ru.cp866.kbd swedish.cp850.kbd us.iso.kbd > What kind of files do I must to set ? Then look in /etc/sysconfig. I have: # Choose keyboard map from /usr/share/syscons/keymaps/* or NO if default. # keymap="us.iso" keymap=NO Change 'NO' to, say, spanish.iso.kbd (yes, I know that you're not in a Spanish country, but I'm hazarding a guess that this keyboard will be the closest to what you need. Then either reboot or enter kbdcontrol -l /usr/share/syscons/keymaps/spanish.iso.kbd That's quite a bit to type in (correctly), but it has the advantage that you can "try out" keyboard definitions until you find what you want. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 05:22:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA00402 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 05:22:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix1.ism.com.br (root@unix1.ism.com.br [200.255.211.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA00395 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 05:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clpc1.compuland.com.br ([200.255.96.22]) by unix1.ism.com.br (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA15588; Wed, 29 May 1996 09:21:56 -0300 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 09:21:56 -0300 Message-Id: <199605291221.JAA15588@unix1.ism.com.br> X-Sender: compland@ism.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Jaye Mathisen From: compland@ism.com.br (Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) Subject: Re: Squid in FreeBSD Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk go to http://www.nlanr.net/Squid It works just fine in my Freebsd 2.1R box. Out of the box. Regards, Helio. > >Can you tell me where you downloaded squid from? I would like to take a >gander at it. > > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 05:35:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA01034 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 05:35:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eer-ss201.internet1.net (eer-ss201.internet1.net [206.152.115.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA01029 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 05:35:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by eer-ss201.internet1.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA07525 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 29 May 1996 08:35:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 08:35:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Super-User Message-Id: <199605291235.IAA07525@eer-ss201.internet1.net> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Where is LINT? X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I was wondering FreeBSD (2.1.0) has a lint program? I tried to find one but only found some text saying there is no standard for lint and that it is a wast of time. Also that GCC is better than cc & lint. Should I worry about not having one with FreeBSD? If so, where can I get it, if not, okay thanks. Matthew Hagerty SysAdmin ~ internet1.net From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 05:52:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA01976 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 05:52:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beeblebrox.cc.jyu.fi (beeblebrox.cc.jyu.fi [130.234.41.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA01968; Wed, 29 May 1996 05:52:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kallio@localhost) by beeblebrox.cc.jyu.fi (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA00388; Wed, 29 May 1996 15:51:04 +0300 (EET DST) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 15:50:57 +0300 (EET DST) From: Seppo Kallio To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: questions@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, hasty@rah.star-gate.com Subject: X Free & FreeBSD problem with national characters In-Reply-To: <17119.825092078@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It seems XFree86 does not get full the "keymap table" from kernel (or where= =20 does it come from ;-) ) I define keymap=3Dswedish.iso in sysconfig and the font8x16=3Diso8x16 ... Everything is OK on the (ascii) console, but in XFree the national keys =E5= =E4=F6 do not display correctly. I have to run xmodmap with definition keycode 34 =3D aring Aring keycode 48 =3D adiaeresis Adiaeresis keycode 47 =3D odiaeresis Odiaeresis I am running FB86312 and FreeBSD 2.2-SNAP-960501 Seppo PS. This is not problem if I run X local (startx for example) but we use=20 xdm and I know no way to define keycodes if I start X with X -indirect xdm-server.name From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 05:54:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA02108 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 05:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from internet.spss.com (internet.spss.com [192.35.251.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA02103 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 05:54:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msmailgw.spss.com (msmailgw.spss.com [192.67.95.6]) by internet.spss.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA03668 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 12:56:31 GMT Received: by msmailgw.spss.com with Microsoft Mail id <31AC4974@msmailgw.spss.com>; Wed, 29 May 96 07:56:20 cdt From: "McKinley, Rob" To: "'questions@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: 2.1/2.2SNAP and Triton II success? Date: Tue, 28 May 96 17:55:00 cdt Message-ID: <31AC4974@msmailgw.spss.com> Encoding: 26 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm the proud owner of a Tyan Tomcat Pentium/PCI motherboard with the Triton II chipset. I've tried several installations of 2.1R and the May 2.2SNAP and ended up with the same mess. After a short period of time ~2 hours of uptime, the filesystems get corrupted. Usually, the first indications are load failures of programs that ran "just a few minutes ago", due to a bad signature of the C runtime shared lib. If you shutdown and reboot, the auto fsck bombs trying to put it all back together. It complains at boot about an unknown PCI bridge(?) id. It does find the adaptec 2940 on the PCI bus and the CDROM and tape drive on the SCSI chain. FreeBSD itself is installed on an IDE drive (wd0) and /usr is hung off on another IDE drive. It's got 32 meg of memory on it, and the typical (Win95|WinNT|OS/2) all work fine... Suggestions welcome. Rob P.S. I'm getting good at the install program :-) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rob McKinley ! Interim Release: SPSS Inc. ! A programmer's feeble attempt at repentance. 312-329-3661 ! mckinley@spss.com ! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 06:26:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA03781 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 06:26:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ben.britain.eu.net (ben.Britain.EU.net [192.91.199.254]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA03753 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 06:25:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fennel.compnews.co.uk by ben.britain.eu.net via UKIP with SMTP (PP) id ; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:25:27 +0100 Received: from padua.compnews.co.uk by fennel.compnews.co.uk; Wed, 29 May 96 14:25:19 BST Message-Id: <14035.9605291325@padua.compnews.co.uk> From: tonyc@compnews.co.uk (Tony Clark) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 14:25:11 +0000 X-Phone-Number: +44 430 432480 X-Fax-Number: +44 430 432458 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: 9gig disk for freebsd Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If i purchase a 9gig disk, will this be supported under freebsd 2.1.0 ? I am looking for something like a micropolis or seagate. - i already have a the scsi card and a 4gig disk running but i just need to know if you OS will support above certain disk sizes unlike SunOS 4.1.2 (about 2.5 gig) -- Little Tony........ Systems Administrator (PA Data Design) From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 06:34:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA04316 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 06:34:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA04300 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 06:34:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from epprod.elsevier.co.uk (epprod.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id GAA13156 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 06:34:36 -0700 Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by epprod.elsevier.co.uk (8.6.13/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA08612 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:27:07 +0100 Received: from cadair.elsevier.co.uk (actually host cadair) by snowdon with SMTP (PP); Wed, 29 May 1996 14:27:09 +0100 Received: (from dpr@localhost) by cadair.elsevier.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA16850; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:26:40 +0100 From: Paul Richards Message-Id: <199605291326.OAA16850@cadair.elsevier.co.uk> Subject: Re: Where is LINT? To: root@eer-ss201.internet1.net (Super-User) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 14:26:40 +0100 (BST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199605291235.IAA07525@eer-ss201.internet1.net> from "Super-User" at May 29, 96 08:35:00 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Super-User who said > > Greetings, > > I was wondering FreeBSD (2.1.0) has a lint program? I tried to find one > but only found some text saying there is no standard for lint and that it is > a wast of time. Also that GCC is better than cc & lint. Should I worry > about not having one with FreeBSD? If so, where can I get it, if not, okay > thanks. There is one in -current but it's not totally useable yet since we need to lint the libraries. -- Paul Richards. Originative Solutions Ltd. (Netcraft Ltd. contractor) Elsevier Science TIS online journal project. Email: p.richards@elsevier.co.uk Phone: 0370 462071 (Mobile), +44 (0)1865 843155 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 06:52:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA05516 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 06:52:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crooow.wcupa.edu (crooow.wcupa.edu [144.26.15.139]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA05506 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 06:52:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pschwenk@localhost) by crooow.wcupa.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA16218; Wed, 29 May 1996 09:46:45 -0400 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 09:46:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Schwenk To: Super-User cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Where is LINT? In-Reply-To: <199605291235.IAA07525@eer-ss201.internet1.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The cc that comes with FBSD 2.1 is gcc 2.6.something. I asked about lint in the comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc group and got pretty much the same response as you. I asked about it because it was referenced in the Makefile for inn1.4, but apparently it's not necessary. - Peter Schwenk, Academic Computing, West Chester University of PA - pschwenk@wcupa.edu On Wed, 29 May 1996, Super-User wrote: > Greetings, > > I was wondering FreeBSD (2.1.0) has a lint program? I tried to find one > but only found some text saying there is no standard for lint and that it is > a wast of time. Also that GCC is better than cc & lint. Should I worry > about not having one with FreeBSD? If so, where can I get it, if not, okay > thanks. > > Matthew Hagerty > SysAdmin ~ internet1.net > > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 07:29:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA07577 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 07:29:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA07570 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 07:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA26406; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:29:42 -0400 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 10:29:42 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9605291429.AA26406@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Cc: chris@enteract.com (dcastle), questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: booting takes forever In-Reply-To: <199605291039.MAA20174@allegro.lemis.de> References: <199605291039.MAA20174@allegro.lemis.de> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < The first case suggests that you probably have something like > route_loopback="${hostname} localhost" > The answer to this one, which is especially important if you're on a > dialup link, is to add the fully qualified name. For example, I have: > route_loopback="${hostname} localhost.lemis.de." Actually, the /correct/ answer is to get rid of this !@#% route_loopback nonsense. It serves no useful function. If you really insist on keeping it, bear in mind that it is NEVER correct to use names in `ifconfig' and `route' commands. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 07:36:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA08150 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 07:36:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA08143 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 07:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA03087; Wed, 29 May 1996 09:33:58 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu: jfieber owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 09:33:58 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber X-Sender: jfieber@Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu To: Randall Hopper cc: Paul Richards , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Er... how long In-Reply-To: <199605281600.MAA03858@elmer.picker.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 28 May 1996, Randall Hopper wrote: > Incidentally, ELM also comes with "filter" (a sendmail .forward filter > program) which allows you to filter out mail from different lists into > different mail file folders so you don't have to deal with this manually. > It's similar to procmail (so I've heard), but allegedly procmail is more > capable. FWIW, here's a sample portion of my ~/.elm/filter-rules: For the record, if you use elm's filter, one day you *will* loose mail. This is not a matter of if, but when. This is a platform independent "feature", not a quirk in the freebsd version. Do the right thing and use procmail. Unfortunately, the syntax of procmail rules file are a little obtuse when compared to filter but I guess it makes for faster parsing. -john == jfieber@indiana.edu =========================================== == http://fallout.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber ================ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 07:38:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA08305 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 07:38:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA08295 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 07:38:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA03094; Wed, 29 May 1996 09:36:16 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu: jfieber owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 09:36:16 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber X-Sender: jfieber@Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu To: James Raynard cc: john@starfire.mn.org, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: printed form tool? In-Reply-To: <199605282139.VAA10643@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 28 May 1996, James Raynard wrote: > > Please reply to me directly, as I don't subscribe to this list... > > Are there tools for generating printed forms, like for paper > > record keeping? Thanks! > > Have a look in the graphics ports/packages. In particular, xfig is probably the best suited for the task. -john == jfieber@indiana.edu =========================================== == http://fallout.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber ================ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 07:38:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA08348 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 07:38:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rk.ios.com (rk.ios.com [198.4.75.55]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA08338 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 07:38:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rashid@localhost) by rk.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA23127; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:36:49 -0400 From: Rashid Karimov Message-Id: <199605291436.KAA23127@rk.ios.com> Subject: Re: 9gig disk for freebsd To: tonyc@compnews.co.uk (Tony Clark) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 10:36:49 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <14035.9605291325@padua.compnews.co.uk> from "Tony Clark" at May 29, 96 02:25:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > If i purchase a 9gig disk, will this be supported under freebsd 2.1.0 ? Sure it will be :) You can use it as single 9 gig partition . > > > > I am looking for something like a micropolis or seagate. - i already have a > the scsi card and a 4gig disk running but i just need to know if you OS will > support above certain disk sizes unlike SunOS 4.1.2 (about 2.5 gig) What you're talking about is a partition size , not the the _disk size. One can use 9 gig with SunOS 412 , but will to partition it appropriately. If you're looking at news server solution ( as most 9 gig HDD buyers do ) I _strongly recommend to try CCD. It is _very fast ( I have it here with 3 2940Ws and 6 HDDs : 3 2 gig and 3 4 gig) and it shows ~18MB/sec throughput. Add PPro 200Mhz and 256Mb of RAM and you'll have a killer machine. > > -- > > Little Tony........ > Rashid From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 07:39:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA08443 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 07:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA08438 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 07:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA03110; Wed, 29 May 1996 09:39:36 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu: jfieber owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 09:39:36 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber X-Sender: jfieber@Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu To: Chris Gofton cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <9605290733.AA13910@qdot.qld.gov.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 29 May 1996, Chris Gofton wrote: > I seem to be getting mail from the "freebsd-chat@freeBSD.ORG" chat group. > I was wondering if you are able to remove users from this chat group. send mail to majordomo@freebsd.org and in your message, put help It is also possible that you are getting message from chat that were CC'd to another list you are subscribed to. -john == jfieber@indiana.edu =========================================== == http://fallout.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber ================ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 08:01:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA10075 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 08:01:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA10070 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 08:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from (minht@sjx-ca30-28.ix.netcom.com [204.31.235.188]) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA23257 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 08:00:29 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 08:00:29 -0700 Message-Id: <199605291500.IAA23257@dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com> From: minht@ix.netcom.com (Minh Tonthat) Subject: Can't boot FreeBSD 2.1 because / was not properly dismounted To: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I got FreeBSD 2.1 on my pc. Right now, I could not boot FreeBSD 2.1 anymore. I always panic after it said that / was not properly dismounted. Could you tell me how I can fix this problem. Minh. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 08:11:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA10385 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 08:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA10376 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 08:10:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id RAA16763; Wed, 29 May 1996 17:10:39 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (RAA03818); Wed, 29 May 1996 17:09:45 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199605291709.RAA03818@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: LC_COLLATE To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 17:09:45 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! I've found, that with mklocale, I can generate LC_CTYPE files for other countries, which uses other codepages. If I know well, the LC_COLLATE is for sorting, etc. OK. In /usr/share/locale/X, there are two files: the LC_CTYPE for characters, and LC_COLLATE for collating. But what's the format of the LC_COLLATE, or what's the format of the source of this file, and with what utility can I compile it? Bye, Gabor -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 08:35:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA11520 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 08:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rk.ios.com (rk.ios.com [198.4.75.55]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA11513 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 08:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rashid@localhost) by rk.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA23294; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:33:40 -0400 From: Rashid Karimov Message-Id: <199605291533.LAA23294@rk.ios.com> Subject: Re: Does FreeBSD have tcpdump? To: zgabor@CoDe.hu (Gabor Zahemszky) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 11:33:40 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, sparkles@leland.Stanford.EDU In-Reply-To: <199605291151.LAA01732@CoDe.CoDe.hu> from "Gabor Zahemszky" at May 29, 96 11:51:40 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > I need tcpdump (or basically anything that will put the network > > card in promiscuous mode), because I am writing some traffic analysis > > software. Is this software written for FreeBSD? > > I don't know, is it written for FreeBSD (I think - no, it's written for > a previous version of BSD), but it's in the original installed version. > So try to run it (it's in the /usr/sbin directory), but before: > 1) generate a new kernel with packet-filter configured > 2) make the packet-filter devices with /dev/MAKEDEV > 3) man bpf > 4) man tcpdump > > -- > Gabor Zahemszky yes , it does work just fine . One can even write simple traffic analyzer ( very useful thing actually), which will parse tcpdump output. Perl is cool for this ... I have some very simple thing here which parses 3.000.000 packets sniff in about 40 minutes on PPro 200 , splits it down to protos ( TCP/UDP ), services ( ftp vs http vs nntp etc), machines ( received/send at proto level and service level), client groups ( send/received by this POP vs that POP , transit traffic vs intra AS). Rashid From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 08:43:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA11948 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 08:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tombstone.sunrem.com (tombstone.sunrem.com [206.81.134.54]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA11927 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 08:43:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brandon@localhost) by tombstone.sunrem.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA19238; Wed, 29 May 1996 09:42:58 -0600 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 09:42:57 -0600 (MDT) From: Brandon Gillespie To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: panic in FreeBSD-STABLE kernel.. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just upgraded my system to FreeBSD-STABLE, then I recompiled the kernel. For the config I simply copied GENERIC and commented out all but 'cpu "I586_CPU"' for the CPU classes, and I changed the ident respectively. Everything else was by the book (the handbook, to be exact). However, when I reboot the machine it boots the kernel to the point where it should probe the devices, and instead it panics on 'Unknown CPU class'. The system is a Cyrix 6x86 150+, and has run the 2.1-R kernel just fine... Help? -Brandon Gillespie From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 09:44:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA17615 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 09:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gateway.sask.trlabs.ca (xxxxxxxx@gateway.sask.trlabs.ca [192.139.19.101]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA17609 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 09:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from salph1.sask.trlabs.ca ([192.168.129.106]) by gateway.sask.trlabs.ca with ESMTP id <41536>; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:44:01 -0600 Received: by mailhost.sask.trlabs.ca id <17427>; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:43:41 -0600 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 10:43:34 -0600 (MDT) From: Scott Muma To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Installation Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We are trying to install FreeBSD 2.1.0 via FTP. Everything appears to be working correctly up until the program tries to download the root distribution files but can't seem to find them. It then tells us to fix the problem, but since we can't see what the problem is we aren't sure what to do from here. Any clues would be appreciated, thanks Scott From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 09:57:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA18399 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 09:57:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from central.picker.com (central.picker.com [144.54.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA18394 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 09:57:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by central.picker.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0uOoRs-0004rvC; Wed, 29 May 96 12:50 EDT Received: from elmer.picker.com ([144.54.52.5]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28061; Wed, 29 May 96 12:50:07 EDT Received: by elmer.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA04720; Wed, 29 May 1996 12:55:36 -0400 From: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) Message-Id: <199605291655.MAA04720@elmer.picker.com> Subject: Re: Boot Manager not working. To: durang@u.washington.edu (Ken Marsh) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 12:55:35 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Ken Marsh" at May 28, 96 09:36:14 pm Reply-To: rhh@ct.picker.com Organization: Picker International, CT Division X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I just installed BSD on hd1. hd0 is all DOS. When I went to boot, I got >this: > >NO ROM BASIC > >SYSTEM HALTED Can't speak about BootEasy, but I have FreeBSD 2.1.0 running off hd1 (wd1) via OS/BS. Works great. Sounds like you just need to pick a favorite boot manager and install it on your hd0. With DOS on hd0 that should be no problem -- DOS partitions give you plenty of room at the front of the disk to install OS/BS or whatever boot manager you prefer. See ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/tools/dos-tools/osbs*.exe As an aside, OS/BS is pretty nice. Actually, I have it multibooting off DOS and FreeBSD 2.0.5 on wd0, FreeBSD 2.1.0 and some old Linux version on wd1, and off my ZIP drive on sd0. Randy Hopper rhh@ct.picker.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 10:07:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA18971 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:07:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postman.osf.org (postman.osf.org [130.105.1.152]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA18966 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:07:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlin.osf.org (merlin.osf.org [130.105.2.17]) by postman.osf.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA18663 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 13:06:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Watkins Received: by merlin.osf.org (5.65/4.7) id AA00559; Wed, 29 May 96 13:06:53 -0400 Date: Wed, 29 May 96 13:06:53 -0400 Message-Id: <9605291706.AA00559@merlin.osf.org> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: quick Q Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I want to prepare a tape for installing FreeBSD at home. The INSTALL files says I should do something like: tar cvf /dev/rwt0 (or /dev/rst0) floppies dist1 .. dist2 But what I see in the release area is .../release/bin/bin.?? stuff. Question: what do I put on the tape? The bin/ directory? Or all the bin.?? files at the top level? OR do I put the cat'd, gunzip'd, untar'd file system structire on the tape? Thanks for any help. Just send an email, as I'm not on the list. Thanks!! From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 10:11:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA19382 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chaph.usc.edu (root@chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA19377 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nunki.usc.edu (quirion@nunki.usc.edu [128.125.253.160]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id KAA12689 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 10:11:45 -0700 (PDT) From: B QUIRION M Quirion To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: unsubscribe Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// / I cut down trees, I wear high heels, suspenders and a bra! / / I wish I'd been a girly, just like my dear mama! / / MPFC quirion@scf.usc.edu or quirion@hollywood.cinenet.net / ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 10:32:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA20397 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:32:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20392 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:32:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA13711; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:30:27 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605291730.KAA13711@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: set erase to ^H before login To: jrclark@felix.iupui.edu (John Clark) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 10:30:27 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960528121926.002e90d0@felix.iupui.edu> from "John Clark" at May 28, 96 12:14:35 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I access my FreeBSD server primarily from a PC. After I login, I have the > shell script set erase to ^H (stty crt erase ^H), but before I login is when > I really need to do this. If I mess-up my login, I must use crtl+backspace > to erase (instead of backspace, as is the case after login). Properly > configuring this (getty) seems to be beyond my current abilities. Can > anyone help? man gettytab Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 10:37:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA20598 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:37:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20593 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:37:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA13732; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:34:51 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605291734.KAA13732@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: long motd files - screen pause? To: richardc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (Veggy Vinny) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 10:34:51 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Veggy Vinny" at May 28, 96 10:07:10 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Greetings everyone, > > Does anyone know how to get the screen to pause after each page > for long motd files? Thanks! Soloution #1: Hack /bin/login to system 'more'; then after you are logged in, set your terminal type so login's more will page at the right length. Wait, that won't work, since the information is not available until after you are logged in. 8-). Soloution #2: Use a smaller motd. Use the UNIX 'news' package (*not* netnews) in the /etc/csh/cshrc, et al. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 10:41:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA20814 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:41:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from maelstrom.CC.McGill.CA (maelstrom.CC.McGill.CA [132.206.35.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA20808 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:41:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from yves@localhost) by maelstrom.CC.McGill.CA (8.7.1/8.6.10) id NAA07780 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 May 1996 13:39:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605291739.NAA07780@maelstrom.CC.McGill.CA> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Yves Lepage Date: Wed, 29 May 96 13:39:57 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: LARGE Freebsd installation Reply-To: yves@CC.McGill.CA Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, The situation is this: I have to install FreeBSD on 300 dual-boot machines :-) They will all use PS/2 mice (yay (sarcastic)) and this means I have to rebuild the kernel for every one of them. I figure there must be a way to install a pre-configured version of FreeBSD on 300 machines. I thought of the "moving around with an IDE HD" solution but it might take too much time and it'd be too much work too. I then told myself, why not setup a network installation server? I think it is a good idea but I have a few questions: - How should the filetree be organized so that the install floppy can take advantage of my ftp server? - How can I create a pre-config file that I can tell the install proggie to load? - Does anyone know of an even faster way to do that? Thanks a lot, Yves Lepage From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 10:47:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA21008 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:47:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA21003 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:47:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA13757; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:44:24 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605291744.KAA13757@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: set erase to ^H before login To: ANDRSN@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU (Annelise Anderson) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 10:44:24 -0700 (MST) Cc: jrclark@felix.iupui.edu, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <01I597W66PO2007Q9K@HOOVER.STANFORD.EDU> from "Annelise Anderson" at May 28, 96 10:49:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >I access my FreeBSD server primarily from a PC. After I login, I have the > >shell script set erase to ^H (stty crt erase ^H), but before I login is when > >I really need to do this. If I mess-up my login, I must use crtl+backspace > >to erase (instead of backspace, as is the case after login). Properly > >configuring this (getty) seems to be beyond my current abilities. Can > >anyone help? > > It seems to me that before you log in, your keyboard mapping is being > controlled by the software you're running on your pc, and you have to > configure it. Programs like ProComm have terminal emulations and > keyboard mapping capabilities. No, he should modify the 'er' attribute on the gettytab entry for the terminal port so that by default it uses 'Backspace' instead of 'Delete'. I know everyone is probably tired of this, but what the key sends should match what's written on the keycap. For 'Backspace', this is '\008' nad for 'Delete', this is '\177'. Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 10:52:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA21308 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:52:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crooow.wcupa.edu (crooow.wcupa.edu [144.26.15.139]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA21293 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:52:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gypsy.wcupa.edu (gypsy.wcupa.edu [144.26.15.138]) by crooow.wcupa.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA17407 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 13:46:28 -0400 Received: by gypsy.wcupa.edu with Microsoft Mail id <01BB4D66.0AA662E0@gypsy.wcupa.edu>; Wed, 29 May 1996 13:52:14 -0400 Message-ID: <01BB4D66.0AA662E0@gypsy.wcupa.edu> From: "Peter A. Schwenk" To: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: 9gig disk for freebsd Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 13:52:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I know this is probably a bit off-topic (okay, very off-topic), but I am trying to find people who are successfully running inn1.4 (news server) on FreeBSD 2.1. I am having a bunch of difficulty with the expire not working right. I can go into details with anyone who responds to this. I would appreciate any help that I can get. This expire business is holding up the launch of our new server for the campus. - Peter Schwenk, Academic Computing, West Chester University of PA - pschwenk@wcupa.edu ---------- From: Rashid Karimov[SMTP:rashid@rk.ios.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 1996 6:36 AM To: Tony Clark Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9gig disk for freebsd > > > If i purchase a 9gig disk, will this be supported under freebsd 2.1.0 ? Sure it will be :) You can use it as single 9 gig partition . > > > > I am looking for something like a micropolis or seagate. - i already have a > the scsi card and a 4gig disk running but i just need to know if you OS will > support above certain disk sizes unlike SunOS 4.1.2 (about 2.5 gig) What you're talking about is a partition size , not the the _disk size. One can use 9 gig with SunOS 412 , but will to partition it appropriately. If you're looking at news server solution ( as most 9 gig HDD buyers do ) I _strongly recommend to try CCD. It is _very fast ( I have it here with 3 2940Ws and 6 HDDs : 3 2 gig and 3 4 gig) and it shows ~18MB/sec throughput. Add PPro 200Mhz and 256Mb of RAM and you'll have a killer machine. > > -- > > Little Tony........ > Rashid From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 10:53:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA21373 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA21368 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:53:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA13772; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:50:53 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605291750.KAA13772@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: FramerMaker via SCO emulation? To: brian@MediaCity.com Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 10:50:53 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605290243.TAA02501@MediaCity.com> from "Brian Litzinger" at May 28, 96 07:43:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Will Frame Technologies FrameMaker for SCO run via SCO emulation? Which SCO? IBCS2 or ELF? If IBCS2: This is one of the main programs that *should* run. I believe that most of the IBCS2 hackers would be willing to help fix any discrepancies in the emulation that make it not run. Be warned that an IBCS2 environment is more than just the ABI; the SCO install tools, etc. are also part of the environment -- and they are not there, just like they are not there on Linux or most other boxes. This means that you may have a hard time installing the thing if it uses a "standard" SCO install (you can do it; I did it for the IBCS2 Lotus 1-2-3, which cats two files together with a serial numbr key and the machine name from uname in order to build a running binary; it was a pain). Is this a buy decision for the Frame? If you already have the Frame, you should at least try an install and see how far you get and how willing you are to fight the install. If you get it installed, then I'm sure the IBCS2 guru's will work with you on any ABI problems. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 10:54:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA21421 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA21416 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:54:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crooow.wcupa.edu (crooow.wcupa.edu [144.26.15.139]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA14372 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:54:33 -0700 Received: from gypsy.wcupa.edu (gypsy.wcupa.edu [144.26.15.138]) by crooow.wcupa.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA17397; Wed, 29 May 1996 13:39:38 -0400 Received: by gypsy.wcupa.edu with Microsoft Mail id <01BB4D65.16963900@gypsy.wcupa.edu>; Wed, 29 May 1996 13:45:24 -0400 Message-ID: <01BB4D65.16963900@gypsy.wcupa.edu> From: "Peter A. Schwenk" To: "'Brandon Gillespie'" , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: RE: panic in FreeBSD-STABLE kernel.. Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 13:45:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I would think that since the 6x86 is a Pentium-class CPU, it probably masquerades as one. You removed i586_CPU from the config file. Did you try putting it back in? - Peter Schwenk, Academic Computing, West Chester University of PA - pschwenk@wcupa.edu ---------- From: Brandon Gillespie[SMTP:brandon@tombstone.sunrem.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 1996 5:42 AM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: panic in FreeBSD-STABLE kernel.. I just upgraded my system to FreeBSD-STABLE, then I recompiled the kernel. For the config I simply copied GENERIC and commented out all but 'cpu "I586_CPU"' for the CPU classes, and I changed the ident respectively. Everything else was by the book (the handbook, to be exact). However, when I reboot the machine it boots the kernel to the point where it should probe the devices, and instead it panics on 'Unknown CPU class'. The system is a Cyrix 6x86 150+, and has run the 2.1-R kernel just fine... Help? -Brandon Gillespie From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 10:56:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA21572 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA21564 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:56:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA28785; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:58:55 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 10:58:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Ken Marsh cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Boot Manager not working. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 28 May 1996, Ken Marsh wrote: > I just installed BSD on hd1. hd0 is all DOS. When I went to boot, I got > this: > > NO ROM BASIC > > SYSTEM HALTED Oops. Use DOS FDISK and reset the 'active' partition. This is the infamous "missing operating system message" built for compatibility. :-/ Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 10:57:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA21649 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:57:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tombstone.sunrem.com (tombstone.sunrem.com [206.81.134.54]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA21640 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:57:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brandon@localhost) by tombstone.sunrem.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA19497; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:56:22 -0600 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 11:56:22 -0600 (MDT) From: Brandon Gillespie To: "Peter A. Schwenk" cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: RE: panic in FreeBSD-STABLE kernel.. In-Reply-To: <01BB4D65.16963900@gypsy.wcupa.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 29 May 1996, Peter A. Schwenk wrote: > I would think that since the 6x86 is a Pentium-class CPU, it > probably masquerades as one. You removed i586_CPU from the > config file. Did you try putting it back in? Actually, I didnt remove the i586_CPU, I removed everything BUT that... I.e. my config is: machine "i386" #cpu "I386_CPU" #cpu "I486_CPU" cpu "I586_CPU" ident ICE [...] Bill/Carolyn Pechter writes: > use the CPU class I486_CPU -- it should be closer to that one. The 6x86 is a '686' (it has the 686 instruction set--in theory), which means the 586 would be the closest to it... What effect does including various other 'cpu' classes have? Anybody else using -STABLE on a Cyrix 6x86? -Brandon Gillespie From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 10:57:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA21696 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA21691 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:57:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA13789; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:55:08 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605291755.KAA13789@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: email problems To: ryan@donald.iafrica.com (Ryan Loots) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 10:55:07 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Ryan Loots" at May 29, 96 08:25:29 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > "| IFS=' ' && p=/usr/local/bin/procmail && test -f $p && exec $p -Yf- || > exit 75 #natasha" > > and here is mine: > > "| IFS=' ' && p=/usr/local/bin/procmail && test -f $p && exec $p -Yf- || > exit 75 #ryan" > > [donald] /home/ryan # ls -la .forward > -rwxr-xr-x 1 ryan wheel 112 May 29 08:15 .forward > > [donald] /home/natasha # ls -la .forward > -rw-rw-r-- 1 natasha guest 91 May 21 15:22 .forward I don't know why you would need group write on the file. 8-). Are you sure the character in IFS=' ' is a space? You might have swapped a space for a tab. Did you copy the other file and modify it, or did you cut and past/retype it? Look also at her bin directory vs. yours.; ther may be an auxillary program it can find when running as you. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 10:59:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA21772 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:59:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA21767 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:59:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA13803; Wed, 29 May 1996 10:57:42 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605291757.KAA13803@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Support for DEC Alpha ? To: garys@silcom.com Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 10:57:42 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605290612.XAA22011@beach.silcom.com> from "garys@silcom.com" at May 28, 96 11:12:10 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Do you support, or plan to support the DEC Alpha? > For right now, at least, you want the NetBSD Alpha port. There was significant progress on the 21064 PCI Alpha systems for a FreeBSD port, when the loaner machines had to go back. The lions share of the useable work (Jeffrey Hsu's) was integrated into the NetBSD Alpha port. If someone else has an Alpha port in progress, I don't know about it. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 11:01:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA21905 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:01:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA21899 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:01:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA28807; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:00:38 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 11:00:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Minh Tonthat cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't boot FreeBSD 2.1 because / was not properly dismounted In-Reply-To: <199605291500.IAA23257@dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 29 May 1996, Minh Tonthat wrote: > I got FreeBSD 2.1 on my pc. Right now, I could not boot FreeBSD 2.1 > anymore. I always panic after it said that / was not properly > dismounted. Specifics please... . disk setup . machine setup . exact text of error message(s) . boot messages Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 11:06:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA22122 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:06:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA22110 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:06:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA13820; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:03:34 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605291803.LAA13820@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Keybord Map To: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 11:03:34 -0700 (MST) Cc: rui@interop.com.br, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605291119.NAA20363@allegro.lemis.de> from "Greg Lehey" at May 29, 96 01:19:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > What kind of files do I must to set ? > > Then look in /etc/sysconfig. I have: > > # Choose keyboard map from /usr/share/syscons/keymaps/* or NO if default. > # keymap="us.iso" > keymap=NO > > Change 'NO' to, say, spanish.iso.kbd (yes, I know that you're not in a > Spanish country, but I'm hazarding a guess that this keyboard will be > the closest to what you need. Then either reboot or enter > > kbdcontrol -l /usr/share/syscons/keymaps/spanish.iso.kbd > > That's quite a bit to type in (correctly), but it has the advantage > that you can "try out" keyboard definitions until you find what you > want. I thought I saw a Portuguese keymap float by on -hackers a while back... if you can't find it, consider submitting a modified version of the Spanish keymap for inclusion in the next release. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 11:10:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA22307 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:10:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA22302 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA13845; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:07:34 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605291807.LAA13845@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: screen font file format To: zgabor@CoDe.hu (Gabor Zahemszky) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 11:07:34 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605291129.LAA01464@CoDe.CoDe.hu> from "Gabor Zahemszky" at May 29, 96 11:29:22 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > What's the format of a screen font file (with syscons)? Or are there > anybody out there, who made a Hungarian screen font file? (In Hungary > there are so many code tables, under Unix, we have to use the ISO-8859/2 > table.) You should submit your versions of these things. I think that it would be a good idea at some future time to make a modification to the bdftopcf or bdftosnf programs to produce syscons fonts, at least from fixed attribute character set sources of the right cell size. Barring that, you need to contact the syscons author. 8-). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 11:15:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA22607 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA22602 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:15:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA13861; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:09:53 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605291809.LAA13861@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Er... how long To: jfieber@indiana.edu (John Fieber) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 11:09:53 -0700 (MST) Cc: rhh@ct.picker.com, p.richards@elsevier.co.uk, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "John Fieber" at May 29, 96 09:33:58 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Incidentally, ELM also comes with "filter" (a sendmail .forward filter > > program) which allows you to filter out mail from different lists into > > different mail file folders so you don't have to deal with this manually. > > It's similar to procmail (so I've heard), but allegedly procmail is more > > capable. FWIW, here's a sample portion of my ~/.elm/filter-rules: > > For the record, if you use elm's filter, one day you *will* loose > mail. This is not a matter of if, but when. This is a platform > independent "feature", not a quirk in the freebsd version. Do > the right thing and use procmail. Unfortunately, the syntax of > procmail rules file are a little obtuse when compared to filter > but I guess it makes for faster parsing. What race condition do you believe exists such that this will happen? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 11:16:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA22737 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:16:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA22729 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:16:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA28962; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:18:29 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 11:18:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Richard Beyer cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help compiling NCSA HTTPd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 29 May 1996, Richard Beyer wrote: > Hi, > > When compiling NCSA HTTPd I get the following error: > > Undefined symbol '_crypt' referenced from text segment add -lcrypt to the compliation options (CFLAGS?) and try again. Ever consider apache? Prebuilt and an overall better package, even based on NCSA. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 11:18:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA22837 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:18:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA22831 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:18:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA28984; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:20:35 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 11:20:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: babel@cais.cais.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Install via cd-rom (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 28 May 1996, Jamil Weatherbee wrote: > Have your freeBSD cd-rom but conot get any of the boot floppie routines to > detect its presents. What minimal level of install will allow a kernel rebuild > including your wcd0 cdrom driver? User ? Developer ? Any help at all will be > great! You need to use the 'atapi.flp' or INST_IDE.BAT to generate a boot floppy. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 11:32:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA23716 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:32:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA23691 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:32:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA29082; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:34:40 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 11:34:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Steve Chen cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stevec@msn.com Subject: Re: installation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 29 May 1996, Steve Chen wrote: > 80486 CPU: 66MHz > One adaptec 2840vl/2842vl SCSI controller which control my quad speed SONY > CDROM. > One EIDE controller with an 814MB hard drive. > One NE2000 compatible ethernet card. > One 14.4Kbps internal fax modern. > A Diamond Stealth SE video card with 1M memory on board. > A 15" MAGVAVOX MAGNASCAN/15 monitor with Horizontal frequency:30-66KHz and > Vertical frequence 50-11Hz. Nice box. > Because I encounter so many problems while I tried to install FreeBSD to > my system, I even get a FreeBSD 2.2 Snapshot and the booklet: Installing and > Running FreeBSD and hope if they could help me. After I read the booklet, I > have some questions. > (1) Is there any way that I can install FreeBSD to my computer with above > equipment? Should work OK. The only question is the Adaptec. I don't know if it's supported or not. > (2) If the answer is "NO", what should I do to install the FreeBSD in my > computer with the minimum cost? > If I add a extra SCSI hard drive and set it as D drive, would it be > easier to install? > Or, if, I took the EIDE controller and the 814 hard drive out of my > computer and install a SCSI hard drive, would it be helpful? My guess would be that you whould have to get a new scsi controller if that was the problem. If you don't like adaptec you could get a NCR scsi controller for $120 or so. > > (3) The original disk Geometry was: 1654 cyls/ 16 heads/ 63 sectors > During the repartition, the disk Geometry became: 827 cyls/ 32 heads/63 > sectors > And a disk space disagrement message would display while > installation. Try putting a small DOS partition on, then while installing FreeBSD delete it and put the FBSD partition over it. The DOS partition helps sysinstall determine the proper geometry. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 11:33:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA23800 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:33:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postman.osf.org (postman.osf.org [130.105.1.152]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA23780 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:33:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlin.osf.org (merlin.osf.org [130.105.2.17]) by postman.osf.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA20292 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:32:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Watkins Received: by merlin.osf.org (5.65/4.7) id AA00695; Wed, 29 May 96 14:32:51 -0400 Date: Wed, 29 May 96 14:32:51 -0400 Message-Id: <9605291832.AA00695@merlin.osf.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: quick Q Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I want to prepare a tape for installing FreeBSD at home. The INSTALL files says I should do something like: tar cvf /dev/rwt0 (or /dev/rst0) floppies dist1 .. dist2 But what I see in the release area is .../release/bin/bin.?? stuff. Question: what do I put on the tape? The bin/ directory? Or all the bin.?? files at the top level? OR do I put the cat'd, gunzip'd, untar'd file system structire on the tape? Thanks for any help. Just send an email, as I'm not on the list. Thanks!! From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 11:38:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA24010 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:38:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adept.qualcomm.com (adept.qualcomm.com [129.46.50.81]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA24005 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:38:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.46.104.151] (sathalye-mac.qualcomm.com [129.46.104.151]) by adept.qualcomm.com (8.7.5/0.7/8.7.2/1.7.1) with SMTP id LAA02084 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 11:37:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: sathalye@adept.qualcomm.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 11:37:45 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: sathalye@qualcomm.com (Sanjeev Athalye) Subject: Install problem - HD read-only? Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I don't know if this one made it to the list before, but here it is: I have a P5/166, 48Mb RAM, 2.1Gb IDE HD. The HD is partitioned as follows: DOS 400Mb FreeBSD 700Mb WinNT 900Mb The FreeBSD slice has /, SWAP, /var and /usr, with the / partition within 500Mb. The install works fine until after it asks for the install source (which is an MS-DOS partition). It then attempts to do the commit operation, and write the files, but comes back with a message stating that the HD is "read-only". It tries to copy the files, and says, "Wrote -1 bytes ....". I have tried installing FreeBSD about 6 times, trying different things, but have always met with this stumbling block. Please help. Thanks. Sanjeev Athalye Qualcomm Inc. Q-123B4 (619) 658-1853. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 12:09:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA26261 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 12:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lariat.lariat.org ([129.72.251.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA26250 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 12:09:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brett@localhost) by lariat.lariat.org (8.8.Alpha.3/8.8.Alpha.3) id NAA18289 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 May 1996 13:06:00 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 13:06:00 -0600 (MDT) From: Brett Glass Message-Id: <199605291906.NAA18289@lariat.lariat.org> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Gateway Solo: Is it known to run FreeBSD? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone successfully run FreeBSD 2.0.1 or later on a Gateway Solo? This machine has an 800x600 LCD driven by a C&T video chipset, and it won't be worth running FreeBSD unless there are video drivers for this display. I'd also be interested in finding out if the other peripherals behaved properly, and if DOS emulation is stable enough to try on this platform. --Brett From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 12:33:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA28521 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 12:33:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA28514 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 12:33:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from richardc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA21671; Wed, 29 May 1996 12:33:19 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 12:33:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Veggy Vinny To: Terry Lambert cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: long motd files - screen pause? In-Reply-To: <199605291734.KAA13732@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 29 May 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Greetings everyone, > > > > Does anyone know how to get the screen to pause after each page > > for long motd files? Thanks! > > Soloution #1: > > Hack /bin/login to system 'more'; then after you are > logged in, set your terminal type so login's more will > page at the right length. Wait, that won't work, since > the information is not available until after you are > logged in. 8-). Didn't think that would either... > Soloution #2: > > Use a smaller motd. Use the UNIX 'news' package (*not* netnews) > in the /etc/csh/cshrc, et al. I'm not sure how CSUA.Berkeley.EDU does it, it's running on a Sequent machine running Dynix but would news do it? Vince From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 12:43:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA29435 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 12:43:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flamingo.cs.ucla.edu (Flamingo.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.128.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA29429 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 12:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by flamingo.cs.ucla.edu (8.6.10/UCLACS-1.0) id MAA14252 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 29 May 1996 12:41:04 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 12:41:04 -0700 From: Igor Roizen Message-Id: <199605291941.MAA14252@flamingo.cs.ucla.edu> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: freebsd current Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does the freebsd current cdrom contain all the packages listed at the freebsd.org? What is on the second cdrom in the freebsd stable distribution? Thanks, roizen@cs.ucla.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 12:43:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA29470 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 12:43:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.statsci.com (main.statsci.com [198.145.127.110]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA29449 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 12:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from statsci.com by main.statsci.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0uOr8x-00068NC; Wed, 29 May 96 12:42 PDT Message-Id: X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: IDE or SCSI for home system? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 12:42:55 -0700 From: Scott Blachowicz Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi- Yes...I understand that SCSI drives would give me better performance, but...at home I've currently got a 1Gb IDE drive (that came with the system) and a 1.4Gb Quantum Empire (if I remember correctly) SCSI drive that I hang off my NCR 53c815 based SCSI card (along with my CDROM drive and an external Exabyte EXB-8200 tape drive). Now...the SCSI HD is acting like it's thinking about giving up the ghost (I think - on powerup it will sometimes take several tries before the "scanning for devices" phase of the FreeBSD boot sequence will find it and use it - I don't know if it's the drive going or some config thing that I could tweak somewhere...hints welcome). At any rate, I've been thinking of adding a couple Gig of disk space and looking at the prevailing (low end) prices, the 2Gb IDE drives for ~$300 look awful attractive. Are there any good reasons for spending twice as much on a SCSI drive? I figure I can put the new drive off its own IDE interface and general speed of the drive ought to be fine. Has anyone seen/posted a pros & cons list for choosing one type of drive over the other? (I'm not looking to start a discussion of the merits of programming one sort of device driver or another...just end user [with tight budget :-)] pros & cons). Thanx, Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 Mathsoft (Data Analysis Products Div) 1700 Westlake Ave N #500 scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109 Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 13:11:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA01900 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 13:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA01895 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 13:11:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA14152; Wed, 29 May 1996 13:09:26 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605292009.NAA14152@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: long motd files - screen pause? To: richardc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (Veggy Vinny) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 13:09:26 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Veggy Vinny" at May 29, 96 12:33:17 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Soloution #2: > > > > Use a smaller motd. Use the UNIX 'news' package (*not* netnews) > > in the /etc/csh/cshrc, et al. > > I'm not sure how CSUA.Berkeley.EDU does it, it's running on a > Sequent machine running Dynix but would news do it? I'm pretty sure 'news' uses 'more'. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 13:17:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA02374 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 13:17:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA02345; Wed, 29 May 1996 13:17:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.CES.CWRU.Edu (alpha.CES.CWRU.Edu [129.22.16.10]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id NAA15109 ; Wed, 29 May 1996 13:17:36 -0700 Received: from fox.CES.CWRU.Edu (fox.CES.CWRU.Edu [129.22.16.17]) by alpha.CES.CWRU.Edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA26310; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:14:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Kazem Akbari Received: (from akbari@localhost) by fox.CES.CWRU.Edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA00427; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:16:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 16:16:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605292016.QAA00427@fox.CES.CWRU.Edu> To: akbari@alpha.CES.CWRU.Edu, freebsd@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org, support@cdrom.com Subject: Need help to install FreeBSD on IDE systems Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi folks, I really need your help to install the FreeBSD-2.1 (from Walnut Creek) on my computer correctly/completely. The features of my computer is as follows: Processor: Pentium-166 Motherboard: Endeavor II with Triton Chipset RAM: 32 EDO 60ns Hard-drive: 2.1 GB EIDE from Seagate CD-drive: 6x IDE from TEAC Graphics: Diamond Stealth-64 Video VRAM (model 3400 XL) 4 MB Monitor: CTX 1785GMe (1600x1280) I tried to install the Unix system five times, but since I got a IDE system I am not able to install the package completely. For instance, I am not able to mount the "cdrom" and also I am not able to build the tools in the "/usr/ports" directory as it is instructed by the manual (typing "make" in every sub-directory). I have heard all the IDE systems are supported in the current version of FreeBSD (2.1), but it seems something is wrong with my own. It will be greatly appreciated if you kindly direct me to the complete installation of my Unix system. Thanks, Kazem. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 13:28:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA03329 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 13:28:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA03323 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 13:28:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from richardc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA26504; Wed, 29 May 1996 13:27:05 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 13:27:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Veggy Vinny To: Terry Lambert cc: terry@lambert.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: long motd files - screen pause? In-Reply-To: <199605292009.NAA14152@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 29 May 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > Soloution #2: > > > > > > Use a smaller motd. Use the UNIX 'news' package (*not* netnews) > > > in the /etc/csh/cshrc, et al. > > > > I'm not sure how CSUA.Berkeley.EDU does it, it's running on a > > Sequent machine running Dynix but would news do it? > > I'm pretty sure 'news' uses 'more'. Hmmm, how is the motd displayed like what program generates it upon logging in? Vince From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 13:29:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA03416 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 13:29:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tombstone.sunrem.com (tombstone.sunrem.com [206.81.134.54]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA03403 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 13:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brandon@localhost) by tombstone.sunrem.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA19802 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:28:58 -0600 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 14:28:58 -0600 From: Brandon Gillespie Message-Id: <199605292028.OAA19802@tombstone.sunrem.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Cyrix chip] panic in FreeBSD-STABLE kernel.. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I put back in the i486_CPU line and it works fine, seems the Cyrix reports itself as a 486 (I now recall a conversation in respect to this already). What is involved in the 586 support? Am I loosing on anything significant by registering it as a 486? How would I go about getting it to register as a 586 (or even better a 686) Enjoy; -Brandon From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 13:33:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA03851 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 13:33:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.iafrica.com (root@chain.iafrica.com [196.7.74.174]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03832 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 13:33:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (khetan@localhost) by chain.iafrica.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA01608; Wed, 29 May 1996 22:31:49 +0200 (SAT) X-Authentication-Warning: chain.iafrica.com: khetan owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 22:31:49 +0200 (SAT) From: Khetan Gajjar To: Terry Lambert cc: Ryan Loots , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: email problems In-Reply-To: <199605291755.KAA13789@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 29 May 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > I don't know why you would need group write on the file. 8-). This has been changed. > Are you sure the character in IFS=' ' is a space? You might have > swapped a space for a tab. Did you copy the other file and modify > it, or did you cut and past/retype it? We isolated the problem, Terry. A file called test existed in Ryan's directory. Removing it solved all the problems. --- Khetan Gajjar Visit at http://www.iafrica.com/~khetan/ UUNet-Internet Africa Operations help@iafrica.com or 0800-030-002 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 13:33:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA03853 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 13:33:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA03837 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 13:33:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA14277; Wed, 29 May 1996 13:31:16 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605292031.NAA14277@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: long motd files - screen pause? To: richardc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (Veggy Vinny) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 13:31:15 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Veggy Vinny" at May 29, 96 01:27:03 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > Soloution #2: > > > > > > > > Use a smaller motd. Use the UNIX 'news' package (*not* netnews) > > > > in the /etc/csh/cshrc, et al. > > > > > > I'm not sure how CSUA.Berkeley.EDU does it, it's running on a > > > Sequent machine running Dynix but would news do it? > > > > I'm pretty sure 'news' uses 'more'. > > Hmmm, how is the motd displayed like what program generates it > upon logging in? /bin/login if ~/.hushlogin doesn't exist. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 13:38:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA04278 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 13:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA04265 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 13:38:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from richardc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA27385; Wed, 29 May 1996 13:37:35 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 13:37:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Veggy Vinny To: Terry Lambert cc: terry@lambert.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: long motd files - screen pause? In-Reply-To: <199605292031.NAA14277@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 29 May 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > > Soloution #2: > > > > > > > > > > Use a smaller motd. Use the UNIX 'news' package (*not* netnews) > > > > > in the /etc/csh/cshrc, et al. > > > > > > > > I'm not sure how CSUA.Berkeley.EDU does it, it's running on a > > > > Sequent machine running Dynix but would news do it? > > > > > > I'm pretty sure 'news' uses 'more'. > > > > Hmmm, how is the motd displayed like what program generates it > > upon logging in? > > /bin/login if ~/.hushlogin doesn't exist. Hmmm, so I just need to modify /bin/login to do |more when it cats the file? Vince From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 14:06:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA06811 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (root@sasami.jurai.net [206.151.208.162]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA06796 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:06:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA05471; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:05:32 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 16:05:32 -0500 (CDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" X-Sender: winter@sasami To: "Peter A. Schwenk" cc: "'Brandon Gillespie'" , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: RE: panic in FreeBSD-STABLE kernel.. In-Reply-To: <01BB4D65.16963900@gypsy.wcupa.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 29 May 1996, Peter A. Schwenk wrote: > I would think that since the 6x86 is a Pentium-class CPU, it > probably masquerades as one. You removed i586_CPU from the > config file. Did you try putting it back in? Linux IDs the 6x86 as a 486. My roommate has one and added the 6x86 probe routines to Linux. Cyrix has all the doc online, in HTML and PS. Have a good one. | Matthew N. Dodd | winter@jurai.net | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | | Technical Manager | mdodd@intersurf.net | http://www.intersurf.net | | InterSurf Online | "Welcome to the net Sir, would you like a handbasket?"| From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 14:07:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA06923 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from solar.os.com (root@solar.os.com [199.232.136.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA06911 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:07:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jupiter (jupiter.os.com [199.232.136.66]) by solar.os.com (8.7/8.7.0) with SMTP id RAA11915 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 17:11:50 -0400 Message-Id: <199605292111.RAA11915@solar.os.com> X-Sender: craigs@solar X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 17:04:35 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org From: craigs@os.com (Craig Shrimpton) Subject: Where can I find makedepend? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Folks, I'm looking for a copy of makedepend. I was told it's in the X distribution. I only need makedepend, do I have to get the entire XFree set? -Craig =================================================================== Orbit Internet Email: craigs@os.com 400 Grove Street Phone: (508) 753-8776 Worcester, MA 01605 http://www.os.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 14:07:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA06966 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu (spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu [128.52.46.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA06956 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:07:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12GNU) id RAA07633 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 May 1996 17:06:49 -0401 From: Kristyn Fayette Message-Id: <199605292107.RAA07633@spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu> Subject: RFC for special IPs/Private Networks? To: questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Questions) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 17:06:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hiya, This isn't actually a FreeBSD question, but I did see a reference to what I'm looking for a long time ago in a version of FreeBSD far far away. I remember once seeing in /etc/hosts, or a similar file, a reference to an RFC for IP addresses that won't be propagated over routers. I'm thinking that this must have been on the GAMMA or EPSILON release, because it isn't in my 1.0.2 CD. Can someone tell me what RFC this was? And does anyone know what the GOTCHAs are for this? I already know that this network can't be directly on the Internet, but what about with a proxy firewall seperating the two networks? -----Kris -- -=(*)=- Kristyn Fayette -=(*)=- kristyn@gnu.ai.mit.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 14:11:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA07466 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:11:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA07461 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:11:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA00304; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:13:28 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 14:13:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Scott Muma cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Installation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 29 May 1996, Scott Muma wrote: > We are trying to install FreeBSD 2.1.0 via FTP. Everything appears to be > working correctly up until the program tries to download the root > distribution files but can't seem to find them. It then tells us to fix > the problem, but since we can't see what the problem is we aren't sure > what to do from here. ftp from where? If you are trying to ftp from a mounted CD change the FTP failure mode to 'retry'. It should find it then. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 14:17:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA07995 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA07975; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:17:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA00340; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:17:28 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 14:17:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Andrew V. Stesin" cc: questions@freebsd.org, scsi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mysterious crashes of FreeBSD gateway -- caugh it(?) In-Reply-To: <199605281649.TAA07502@office.elvisti.kiev.ua> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 28 May 1996, Andrew V. Stesin wrote: > When a Compex ReadyLink (DEC 21041-based) PCI ethernet was replaced > by a random NE2000, the trouble almost gone -- the box was up for > some days, just Ok. Someone has noted that recent Compex's don't work well with FreeBSD. That may clear up some of your random crashes. > When doing a massive TCP transfers to the 1.1.5-connected subnet, > or even ping -f, a high network load was inspired on a gateway > machine (receive a packet -- forvard it -- send redirect). > NE2000 worked fine, but NCR driver started to through messages > about I/O errors, "NCR dead", etc. Then gateway rebooted itself. I wonder if you have a resource conflict between the NCR and your ethernet card. My NCR may be broke but I had to manually set the IRQ in the PC BIOS. Make sure that the ethernet card and the NCR aren't sharing resources. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 14:18:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA08057 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:18:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA08045 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:18:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA00359; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:19:54 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 14:19:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Brandon Gillespie cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: panic in FreeBSD-STABLE kernel.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 29 May 1996, Brandon Gillespie wrote: > I just upgraded my system to FreeBSD-STABLE, then I recompiled the kernel. > For the config I simply copied GENERIC and commented out all but 'cpu > "I586_CPU"' for the CPU classes, and I changed the ident respectively. > Everything else was by the book (the handbook, to be exact). However, > when I reboot the machine it boots the kernel to the point where it > should probe the devices, and instead it panics on 'Unknown CPU class'. > The system is a Cyrix 6x86 150+, and has run the 2.1-R kernel just fine... Look at the dmesg -- what did the kernel detect your CPU as? I'd leave the 486 in there for good measure, especially on non-intel hardware. Make sure you don't comment the 'i386' line. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 14:23:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA08527 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA08521 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:23:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA14450; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:20:49 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199605292120.OAA14450@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: long motd files - screen pause? To: richardc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (Veggy Vinny) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 14:20:49 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Veggy Vinny" at May 29, 96 01:37:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > > > Use a smaller motd. Use the UNIX 'news' package (*not* netnews) > > > > > > in the /etc/csh/cshrc, et al. > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure how CSUA.Berkeley.EDU does it, it's running on a > > > > > Sequent machine running Dynix but would news do it? > > > > > > > > I'm pretty sure 'news' uses 'more'. > > > > > > Hmmm, how is the motd displayed like what program generates it > > > upon logging in? > > > > /bin/login if ~/.hushlogin doesn't exist. > > Hmmm, so I just need to modify /bin/login to do |more when it cats > the file? more uses the termcap to get the size of the screen so it knows when to say more. The termcap isn't set until after you login, unless you are using rlogin/telnet/xterm or some other convention that passes the user environment to the system being logged into. So you need to be logged all the way in for login to be able to display using "more" before you are logged all the way in. In other words, if you do it in login, you will need to have some information which it is impossible for you to have. Which is why I suggested the "system news" package instead, since it can be run globally *after* login. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 14:39:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA09600 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA09590 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA04785; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:38:23 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu: jfieber owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 16:38:22 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber X-Sender: jfieber@Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu To: Terry Lambert cc: rhh@ct.picker.com, p.richards@elsevier.co.uk, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Er... how long In-Reply-To: <199605291809.LAA13861@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 29 May 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > > For the record, if you use elm's filter, one day you *will* loose > > mail. This is not a matter of if, but when. This is a platform > > independent "feature", not a quirk in the freebsd version. Do > What race condition do you believe exists such that this will > happen? I wasn't referring to anything so esoteric as a race condition. I'm talking about messages that cause filter to dump core. -john == jfieber@indiana.edu =========================================== == http://fallout.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber ================ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 14:40:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA09777 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:40:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux4nn.gn.iaf.nl (root@linux4nn.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA09676; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:39:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uni4nn.iaf.nl (root@uni4nn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.33]) by linux4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA13337; Wed, 29 May 1996 23:37:35 +0200 Received: by uni4nn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA18315 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Wed, 29 May 1996 23:34:13 +0200 Received: by iafnl.es.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA23147 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Wed, 29 May 1996 23:11:59 +0200 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.6.12/8.6.6) id WAA11549; Wed, 29 May 1996 22:55:46 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199605292055.WAA11549@yedi.iaf.nl> X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem - The Netherlands Subject: Re: Mysterious crashes of FreeBSD gateway -- caugh it(?) To: stesin@elvisti.kiev.ua (Andrew V. Stesin) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 22:55:46 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, scsi@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605281649.TAA07502@office.elvisti.kiev.ua> from "Andrew V. Stesin" at May 28, 96 07:49:10 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Andrew V. Stesin wrote... > When doing a massive TCP transfers to the 1.1.5-connected subnet, > or even ping -f, a high network load was inspired on a gateway > machine (receive a packet -- forvard it -- send redirect). > NE2000 worked fine, but NCR driver started to through messages > about I/O errors, "NCR dead", etc. Then gateway rebooted itself. > > What I want to ask. > > What might be the source of that trouble? Poor motherboard quality, when > an overloaded (?! is it an overload?) either ISA or PCI bus forces NCR > to go asleep? Or is it a bug in TCP/IP stack or IPfilter, or > their interraction with NCR driver, tickled > with the nessesity to process IP/ICMP packets at a very high rate? > I strongly suspect a hardware problem, but maybe there are other > opinions? I have also seen this happen with a SCSI device that was not 'liked' by the ncr driver. After changing the firmware of the _device_ (a tape) the problem went away. A 'dead' ncr is a perfectly acceptable reason for the system to reboot itself (at least it was on mine). I admit this does not correlate well with your ethernet board swapping, but it is another datapoint on 'dead' ncrs Wilko _ __________________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Wilko Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem - The Netherlands -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 14:41:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA09866 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:41:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA09859 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:41:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA14048; Wed, 29 May 1996 21:41:18 GMT Message-Id: <199605292141.VAA14048@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.3/16.2) id AA280516077; Wed, 29 May 1996 15:41:17 -0600 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 15:41:17 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: terry@lambert.org Cc: richardc@csua.berkeley.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605291734.KAA13732@phaeton.artisoft.com> (message from Terry Lambert on Wed, 29 May 1996 10:34:51 -0700 (MST)) Subject: Re: long motd files - screen pause? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Terry" == Terry Lambert writes: Terry> Soloution #2: Terry> Use a smaller motd. Use the UNIX 'news' package Terry> (*not* netnews) in the /etc/csh/cshrc, et al. Or try the `msgs' system, which is part of 4.4BSD's /usr/bin. See msgs(1) for more information. Note that it requires users to have a msgs command in .login or .profile, so users could suppress them. But they can suppress the motd with a .hushlogin file anyway ... sigh. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 14:44:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA10045 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:44:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA10040 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:44:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA14048; Wed, 29 May 1996 21:41:18 GMT Message-Id: <199605292141.VAA14048@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.3/16.2) id AA280516077; Wed, 29 May 1996 15:41:17 -0600 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 15:41:17 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: terry@lambert.org Cc: richardc@csua.berkeley.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605291734.KAA13732@phaeton.artisoft.com> (message from Terry Lambert on Wed, 29 May 1996 10:34:51 -0700 (MST)) Subject: Re: long motd files - screen pause? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Terry" == Terry Lambert writes: Terry> Soloution #2: Terry> Use a smaller motd. Use the UNIX 'news' package Terry> (*not* netnews) in the /etc/csh/cshrc, et al. Or try the `msgs' system, which is part of 4.4BSD's /usr/bin. See msgs(1) for more information. Note that it requires users to have a msgs command in .login or .profile, so users could suppress them. But they can suppress the motd with a .hushlogin file anyway ... sigh. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 14:53:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA10612 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:53:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ris.ca (risnetra.ris.ca [204.92.74.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA10604 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 14:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by risnetra.ris.ca id <20737>; Wed, 29 May 1996 18:07:30 -0400 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 17:54:11 -0400 From: Jimmy Hui Organization: REUTERS X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; BSD/386 uname failed) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: printing problem X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <96May29.180730edt.20737@risnetra.ris.ca> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm having a hard time trying to get printing to work on a FreeBSD machine running 2.0.950412-SNAP. I have the lpt0 device setup in the printcap file as follows: lp|ps|postscript:\ :lp=/dev/lpt0:sd=/var/spool/lpd:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs: BTW, I printing to a NEC Silentwriter2 model 90 postscript printer. The queueing process works fine and sends the postscript file to the printer to be printed. Even the LCD display on the printer indicates it is processing the file; but after a while it flashes the word "resetting" on the display and nothing gets printed. The funny thing is that I can redirect the postscript file directly to /dev/lpt0 and it prints out fine. Furthermore, I tried this on a serial port "ttyd7" and the same thing happens. If you have any suggestions on solving this problem, please respond to jhui@ris.ca. Thanks in advance. ../JiM From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 15:28:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA15156 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 15:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA15145 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 15:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA14235; Wed, 29 May 1996 22:28:10 GMT Message-Id: <199605292228.WAA14235@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.3/16.2) id AA281248889; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:28:09 -0600 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 16:28:09 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: jhui_1@ris.ca Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <96May29.180730edt.20737@risnetra.ris.ca> (message from Jimmy Hui on Wed, 29 May 1996 17:54:11 -0400) Subject: Re: printing problem Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Jimmy" == Jimmy Hui writes: Jimmy> lp|ps|postscript:\ Jimmy> :lp=/dev/lpt0:sd=/var/spool/lpd:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs: This printcap will print an LPD header page which certainly isn't made up of PostScript commands. This will ruin the rest of the job. You want to add :sh: to the above. Heck, while you're at it, add :mx#0: as well to suppress the maximum job size limiter. See file:/usr/share/doc/handbook/handbook.html (installed FreeBSD 2.1) http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook.html (elsewhere) and look for ``Printing'' for more info. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 15:35:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA16481 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 15:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asylum.asylum.org (dlr@asylum.asylum.org [205.217.4.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA16439 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 15:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dlr@localhost) by asylum.asylum.org (8.6.10/8.6.9) id RAA29249; Wed, 29 May 1996 17:32:11 -0500 From: dlr Message-Id: <199605292232.RAA29249@asylum.asylum.org> Subject: Re: ELM Config To: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 17:32:11 -0500 (EST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199605291052.MAA20243@allegro.lemis.de> from "Greg Lehey" at May 29, 96 12:52:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greg writes, |> Got elm to compile fine but seem to be having a problem with either |> lockfiles or perms. Could someone send me their config file or tell me |> how they have it set up to work. I have 2 bsd boxes that i can't get elm |> to work on (v2.0 and v2.1) and it is something stupid that i am overlooking. | |Why did you recompile it? It's there as standard. It comes with freebsd2.1? i compiled it from the ports. Got it working though by changing sgid. dave From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 15:40:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA17910 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 15:40:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.aros.net (mailhub.aros.net [205.164.111.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA17897 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 15:40:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from terra.aros.net (terra.aros.net [205.164.111.10]) by mailhub.aros.net (8.7.5/Unknown) with ESMTP id RAA06136; Wed, 29 May 1996 17:11:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from angio@localhost) by terra.aros.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) id QAA04739; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:40:35 -0600 From: Dave Andersen Message-Id: <199605292240.QAA04739@terra.aros.net> Subject: Re: 9gig disk for freebsd To: tonyc@compnews.co.uk (Tony Clark) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 16:40:35 -0600 (MDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <14035.9605291325@padua.compnews.co.uk> from "Tony Clark" at May 29, 96 02:25:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 PGP2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Someone already replied and said yes; the answer is yes. :) But as a note of caution: One of the worst mistakes we've ever made was choosing to use a Micropolis 9gb hard drive in two of our servers. Micropolis built in a feature to both of the drives we purchased: They crash like you wouldn't believe. Go with smaller drives (we've found drives in the 2gb-4gb range to be perfect) and either split your files up over them, or use the ccd to stripe them together. -Dave Andersen Lo and behold, Tony Clark once said: > > > If i purchase a 9gig disk, will this be supported under freebsd 2.1.0 ? > > > > I am looking for something like a micropolis or seagate. - i already have a > the scsi card and a 4gig disk running but i just need to know if you OS will > support above certain disk sizes unlike SunOS 4.1.2 (about 2.5 gig) > > -- > > Little Tony........ > > Systems Administrator (PA Data Design) > -- angio@aros.net Complete virtual hosting and business-oriented system administration Internet services. (WWW, FTP, email) http://www.aros.net/ http://www.aros.net/about/virtual "There are only two industries that refer to thier customers as 'users'." From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 15:45:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA18184 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 15:45:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mistery.mcafee.com (jimd@mistery.mcafee.com [192.187.128.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA18172 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 15:45:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jimd@localhost) by mistery.mcafee.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA21144; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:03:58 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199605292303.QAA21144@mistery.mcafee.com> Subject: Re: RFC for special IPs/Private Networks? To: kristyn@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Kristyn Fayette) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 16:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199605292107.RAA07633@spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu> from "Kristyn Fayette" at May 29, 96 05:06:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk RFC 1597 Jim Dennis, System Administrator, McAfee Associates > > Hiya, > > This isn't actually a FreeBSD question, but I did see a reference to what I'm > looking for a long time ago in a version of FreeBSD far far away. > > I remember once seeing in /etc/hosts, or a similar file, a reference to an > RFC for IP addresses that won't be propagated over routers. I'm thinking > that this must have been on the GAMMA or EPSILON release, because it isn't > in my 1.0.2 CD. Technically they won't be issued to anyone on the internet by the IANA. Most well-configured routers will filter them -- but that is by configuration -- not by design. > Can someone tell me what RFC this was? And does anyone know what the > GOTCHAs are for this? I already know that this network can't be directly > on the Internet, but what about with a proxy firewall seperating the two > networks? You'll still need to filter these out at your own router and you'll probaby want to ensure that source routed packets aren't allowed through either. The addresses that have been reserved are: 10.*.*.* (One class A address) 172.16.* through 172.31.* (16 class B addresses) and 192.168.*.* (255 class C addresses) From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 15:52:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA18754 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 15:52:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from longstreet.larc.nasa.gov (longstreet.larc.nasa.gov [128.155.25.82]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA18749 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 15:52:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from branson@localhost) by longstreet.larc.nasa.gov (8.6.11/8.6.11) id SAA08106 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 May 1996 18:55:19 -0400 From: Branson Matheson Message-Id: <199605292255.SAA08106@longstreet.larc.nasa.gov> Subject: PPP and 2.2-Snap 5-1-96 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Questions) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 18:55:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hrm.. I am getting somthing really weird. I upgraded my 2.1-stable machine to 2.2-snap 5.1.96 and now I am having networking problems. I use tun0 ppp and connect as usuall.. and it says that I am connected, and the route comes up correctly.. but when I try to connect I am getting: ( from ktrace ) 339 telnet RET write 23/0x17 339 telnet CALL socket(0x2,0x1,0) 339 telnet RET socket 3 339 telnet CALL getuid 339 telnet RET getuid 0 339 telnet CALL setuid(0) 339 telnet RET setuid 0 339 telnet CALL setsockopt(0x3,0,0x3,0x10324,0x4) 339 telnet RET setsockopt 0 339 telnet CALL connect(0x3,0xefbfd80c,0x10) 339 telnet RET connect -1 errno 13 Permission denied 339 telnet CALL writev(0x2,0xefbfd7a8,0x4) 339 telnet GIO fd 2 wrote 60 bytes "telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Permission denied This happens weather using ping, telnet or anything else. I have lost my connectivity from home so anything that would be helpful would be nice. I am having to use tip for this ( ugh ) -branson -- ======================================================================== branson matheson | branson@widomaker.com Ferguson SysAdmin | http://widomaker.com/~branson From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 15:54:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA18913 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 15:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from donald.iafrica.com (root@donald.iafrica.com [196.31.1.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA18902 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 15:54:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ryan@localhost) by donald.iafrica.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id AAA08565; Thu, 30 May 1996 00:53:02 +0200 (SAT) Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 00:53:02 +0200 (SAT) From: Ryan Loots To: Terry Lambert cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: email problems In-Reply-To: <199605291755.KAA13789@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi There > > "| IFS=' ' && p=/usr/local/bin/procmail && test -f $p && exec $p -Yf- || > > exit 75 #natasha" > > > > and here is mine: > > > > "| IFS=' ' && p=/usr/local/bin/procmail && test -f $p && exec $p -Yf- || > > exit 75 #ryan" > > > > [donald] /home/ryan # ls -la .forward > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 ryan wheel 112 May 29 08:15 .forward > > > > [donald] /home/natasha # ls -la .forward > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 natasha guest 91 May 21 15:22 .forward > > I don't know why you would need group write on the file. 8-). > > Are you sure the character in IFS=' ' is a space? You might have > swapped a space for a tab. Did you copy the other file and modify > it, or did you cut and past/retype it? > > Look also at her bin directory vs. yours.; ther may be an auxillary > program it can find when running as you. Thanks for the reply, although a friend and myself found the problem, there was a file called test in my home dir, and this was inteferring with my .forward Thanks again Ryan From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 16:03:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA19499 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA19491 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:03:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from richardc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA10860; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:02:28 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 16:02:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Veggy Vinny To: Terry Lambert cc: terry@lambert.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: long motd files - screen pause? In-Reply-To: <199605292120.OAA14450@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 29 May 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > > > > Use a smaller motd. Use the UNIX 'news' package (*not* netnews) > > > > > > > in the /etc/csh/cshrc, et al. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure how CSUA.Berkeley.EDU does it, it's running on a > > > > > > Sequent machine running Dynix but would news do it? > > > > > > > > > > I'm pretty sure 'news' uses 'more'. > > > > > > > > Hmmm, how is the motd displayed like what program generates it > > > > upon logging in? > > > > > > /bin/login if ~/.hushlogin doesn't exist. > > > > Hmmm, so I just need to modify /bin/login to do |more when it cats > > the file? > > more uses the termcap to get the size of the screen so it knows when > to say more. > > The termcap isn't set until after you login, unless you are using > rlogin/telnet/xterm or some other convention that passes the user > environment to the system being logged into. > > So you need to be logged all the way in for login to be able to > display using "more" before you are logged all the way in. > > In other words, if you do it in login, you will need to have some > information which it is impossible for you to have. Which is why > I suggested the "system news" package instead, since it can be > run globally *after* login. Hmmm, okay but how do some machines make the motd pause even before it knows the termcap? Vince From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 16:04:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA19702 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:04:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA19475 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from richardc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA10943; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:03:32 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 16:03:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Veggy Vinny To: Sean Kelly cc: terry@lambert.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: long motd files - screen pause? In-Reply-To: <199605292141.VAA14048@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 29 May 1996, Sean Kelly wrote: > >>>>> "Terry" == Terry Lambert writes: > > > Terry> Soloution #2: > > Terry> Use a smaller motd. Use the UNIX 'news' package > Terry> (*not* netnews) in the /etc/csh/cshrc, et al. > > Or try the `msgs' system, which is part of 4.4BSD's /usr/bin. See > msgs(1) for more information. Hmmm, will look at that... > Note that it requires users to have a msgs command in .login or > .profile, so users could suppress them. But they can suppress the > motd with a .hushlogin file anyway ... sigh. Yep, you do have a point there... Vince From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 16:07:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA19964 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:07:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA19955 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-1) with ESMTP id XAA00294; Wed, 29 May 1996 23:10:33 +0100 (BST) To: Terry Lambert cc: jfieber@indiana.edu (John Fieber), rhh@ct.picker.com, p.richards@elsevier.co.uk, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Er... how long In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 29 May 1996 11:09:53 PDT." <199605291809.LAA13861@phaeton.artisoft.com> Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 23:10:32 +0100 Message-ID: <292.833407832@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert wrote in message ID <199605291809.LAA13861@phaeton.artisoft.com>: > > For the record, if you use elm's filter, one day you *will* loose > > mail. This is not a matter of if, but when. This is a platform > > independent "feature", not a quirk in the freebsd version. Do > > the right thing and use procmail. Unfortunately, the syntax of > > procmail rules file are a little obtuse when compared to filter > > but I guess it makes for faster parsing. > What race condition do you believe exists such that this will > happen? It's not a race condition, it's a programming bogon. If the subject line is beyond a certain length the elm filter coredumps. I've seen this happen when I've made large commits (which produced a long `Subject:' line) before cvs-commiters got an ``owner'' which gets the mail. It is a good way of testing who uses the elm filter program :-) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 16:13:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA21007 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:13:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mhs.elan.af.mil (mhs.elan.af.mil [129.198.22.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA20984; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:13:13 -0700 (PDT) From: ELLISOND%SC2.EDW@mhs.elan.af.mil X-Nvlenv-01Date-Transferred: 29-May-1996 16:09:25 -0700; at SC-NGM1.EDW X-Nvlenv-01Date-Transferred: 29-May-1996 16:10:28 -0400; at SC-NGM2.EDW X-Nvlenv-01Date-Posted: 29-May-1996 16:09:57 -0400; at SC-2.EDW Priority: Urgent Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="PartBoundary_Wed_May_29_16:10:52__22232764" Date: 29 May 96 16:10:00 EDT To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FBSD 2.1 Alarm Monitoring - Multi I/O (Advice) Message-Id: Reply-To: ELLISOND%SC2.EDW@mhs.elan.af.mil References: Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk (This is a MIME message. If you can read this, your mail reader does not support MIME. Please contact your E-Mail administrator if you have any questions) --PartBoundary_Wed_May_29_16:10:52__22232764 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Form: Memo Text: (21 lines follow) Hello, I would like to configure a FreeBSD 2.1 box to monitor Contact Closure Alarms generated from a Motorola Smartnet II Trunked System Controller, Multiple channel banks and a DS3-Microwave System. Is there a card or method supported by FreeBSD 2.1 that can handle this type of operation? I also plan on using the same box to attach multiple RS232 communications devices (3 remote site controller, 3 Best UPS, and 2 Motorola Unix Boxes). I am considering a Cyclades 16 port board (previous experience with board) for this job, but if there is a card with the RJ45 connectors on the card instead of an external box I would rather use that. Any advice would be appreciated. I hope to place an order for the required equipment within the next few days or early next week. Duane R. Ellison, SrA 95 CS/SCSML Land Mobile Radio Bldg 4910 Forbes Ave 805-277-6069/7167 Use Proportional Font: true Attachment Count: 0 --PartBoundary_Wed_May_29_16:10:52__22232764 Content-Type: UNKNOWN X-NVL-Content-Typename: UNKNOWN Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ATTRIBS.BND" Content-Transfer-Encoding: x-uue begin 777 ATTRIBS.BND M0F5Y;VYD(%!A8VME9"!!='1R:6)U=&5S``"ZC6; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:29:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jeff@localhost) by tad.cetlink.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) id TAA02729 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 May 1996 19:29:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeffrey Wheat Message-Id: <199605292329.TAA02729@tad.cetlink.net> Subject: mrouted and mbone help To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 19:29:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm wanting to set sd/vat and friends to run on my machines. Could someone explain what I need to do to accomplish this? I have tried to find this info in the FAQ to no avail. Many thanks in advance! -jeff From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 16:33:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA24039 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:33:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA24006 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:32:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id aa15116; 29 May 96 23:32 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa17064; 30 May 96 0:31 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id UAA27109; Wed, 29 May 1996 20:50:58 GMT Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 20:50:58 GMT Message-Id: <199605292050.UAA27109@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: zgabor@code.hu CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199605291709.RAA03818@CoDe.CoDe.hu> (message from Gabor Zahemszky on Wed, 29 May 1996 17:09:45 +0000 (GMT)) Subject: Re: LC_COLLATE Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I've found, that with mklocale, I can generate LC_CTYPE files for > other countries, which uses other codepages. If I know well, the > LC_COLLATE is for sorting, etc. OK. In /usr/share/locale/X, > there are two files: the LC_CTYPE for characters, and LC_COLLATE for > collating. But what's the format of the LC_COLLATE, or what's > the format of the source of this file, and with what utility can I > compile it? I don't pretend to understand internationalisation, but is colldef(1) what you're looking for? -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland jraynard@dial.pipex.com james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 16:44:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA26489 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:44:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.aros.net (mailhub.aros.net [205.164.111.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA26475 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:44:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from terra.aros.net (terra.aros.net [205.164.111.10]) by mailhub.aros.net (8.7.5/Unknown) with ESMTP id SAA09089; Wed, 29 May 1996 18:15:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from angio@localhost) by terra.aros.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) id RAA12179; Wed, 29 May 1996 17:44:30 -0600 From: Dave Andersen Message-Id: <199605292344.RAA12179@terra.aros.net> Subject: Re: Er... how long To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 17:44:29 -0600 (MDT) Cc: jfieber@indiana.edu, rhh@ct.picker.com, p.richards@elsevier.co.uk, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605291809.LAA13861@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at May 29, 96 11:09:53 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 PGP2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Lo and behold, Terry Lambert once said: > What race condition do you believe exists such that this will > happen? The same race condition which allows the setgid version of filter to be used to read anyone's email. :-) When filter handles your file, it creates a temp file in /tmp. It then closes this file, and passes the filename to other functions for handling. The other functions open up the file, do their stuff, close the file, and hand the filename off to still further functions. You get the drift. There are several points during this when the file can be modified between filter functions. My guess is that there's a decent chance that, on a slow system with a lot of email activity, you'll eventually run in to a conflict. That's just a guess based on some hacking of the source. Incidentally, if anyone wants it, I rewrote filter to not pass filenames around but instead to use it's brain and pass file descriptors like a good little program should. I did it primarily to fix the security hole -- the linux version runs setgid -- but it also has the advantage of not having the same race conditions, saves a couple file opens and closes, etc. -Dave Andersen -- angio@aros.net Complete virtual hosting and business-oriented system administration Internet services. (WWW, FTP, email) http://www.aros.net/ http://www.aros.net/about/virtual "There are only two industries that refer to thier customers as 'users'." From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 16:47:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA26785 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:47:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA26774 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:47:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id aa20809; 29 May 96 23:47 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa16737; 30 May 96 0:29 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id UAA27550; Wed, 29 May 1996 20:57:44 GMT Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 20:57:44 GMT Message-Id: <199605292057.UAA27550@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: garys@silcom.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199605290612.XAA22011@beach.silcom.com> (garys@silcom.com) Subject: Re: Support for DEC Alpha ? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Do you support, or plan to support the DEC Alpha? No and no (as far as I know), but NetBSD do:- http://www.netbsd.org/ -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland jraynard@dial.pipex.com james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 16:49:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA27027 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:49:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA27022 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:49:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id af21505; 29 May 96 23:49 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa16830; 30 May 96 0:29 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id UAA27009; Wed, 29 May 1996 20:30:11 GMT Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 20:30:11 GMT Message-Id: <199605292030.UAA27009@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: www@mnemosyne.muse.com.au CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Richard Beyer on Wed, 29 May 1996 16:50:19 +1000 (EST)) Subject: Re: Help compiling NCSA HTTPd Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > When compiling NCSA HTTPd I get the following error: > > Undefined symbol '_crypt' referenced from text segment > > I'm assuming it's an extra library somewhere, but where? /usr/lib/libcrypt.a (and friends). Add '-lcrypt' to the linker command. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland jraynard@dial.pipex.com james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 16:50:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA27252 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:50:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA27239 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 16:50:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ab21963; 29 May 96 23:50 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa17127; 30 May 96 0:31 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id VAA28177; Wed, 29 May 1996 21:15:33 GMT Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 21:15:33 GMT Message-Id: <199605292115.VAA28177@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: njensen@salsa.habaneros.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <01BB4CDB.F138C940@jalapeno.habaneros.com> (njensen@salsa.habaneros.com) Subject: Re: help compiling SSLeay 0.5.2a Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > gcc -../include -D_ANSI_SOURCE -DHAVE_MD -O2 -m486 -Wall -c apps.c > In file included from apps.c:51: > /usr/include/sys/stat.h:55: parse error before 'ino_t' > /usr/include/sys/stat.h:55: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union This seems to be another case of a 'configure' program trying to be too clever for its own good. Or perhaps a lazy author. 8-( I would suspect that "apps.c" does not include sys/types.h, which is usually required for files in /usr/include/sys, and the compiler is complaining because it cannot see a definition of a type it needs. Adding a line #include to apps.c just before line 51 should fix this. Incidentally, looking at the arguments to gcc, '-O2' is known to cause buggy code to be currently generated by gcc on all i386 platforms (not just FreeBSD) - either change it to '-O', or add '-fno-strength-reduce'. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland jraynard@dial.pipex.com james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 17:00:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA28755 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 17:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.jpunix.com (root@alpha.jpunix.com [199.3.234.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA28745 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 17:00:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from perry@localhost) by alpha.jpunix.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id TAA00988 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 29 May 1996 19:00:10 -0500 (CDT) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,list.freebsd.questions Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 18:59:57 -0500 (CDT) From: "John A. Perry" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: exclusion filters under ijppp? Message-ID: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello Everyone, I'm trying to devise a method for setting up filters under ijppp using FreeBSD 2.1.0-stable. The examples demonstrated in ppp.conf.filters.sample demonstrate how to allow various types of connections while denying everything else. I need to know how to do this in the reverse direction. I need to know how to deny access to certain services while allowing access to the system globally. What would a set of filter rules look like that would deny specific services while allowing access to others by default? The maximum of 20 filter rules can be filled very quickly! John Perry - KG5RG - perry@alpha.jpunix.com - PGP-encrypted e-mail welcome! WWW - http://www.jpunix.com PGP 2.62 key for perry@jpunix.com is on the keyservers. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMazlCVOTpEThrthvAQEBbQP+Il8W1u55ECjjEdhQUe7VcPbYCbQUsQ7M JslGyB1fXB1UaefylTUq830h6SLHDivTyVfwp3UB20pKY7KDu2c62l4XkEZn1FJ5 MH4UGK0xCAlmOn8Jk5Jt+WJ5+HuetkJCE9IR1cJmjdm/XA25Mu7L87eFfyPlNNLo EHvRtOaZ350= =nrxb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 17:04:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA29394 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 17:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA29388 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 17:04:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA14642; Thu, 30 May 1996 00:04:00 GMT Message-Id: <199605300004.AAA14642@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.3/16.2) id AA283974638; Wed, 29 May 1996 18:03:58 -0600 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 18:03:58 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: craigs@os.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605292111.RAA11915@solar.os.com> (craigs@os.com) Subject: Re: Where can I find makedepend? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 18:33:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA09383 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 18:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chaph.usc.edu (chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA09369 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 18:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nunki.usc.edu (quirion@nunki.usc.edu [128.125.253.160]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id SAA07441 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 18:33:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 18:33:37 -0700 (PDT) From: B QUIRION M Quirion To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: unsubscribe Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How the hell do you unsubscribe form this list? Ive sent unsubscribe messages all to no avail! The load is too much. ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// / I cut down trees, I wear high heels, suspenders and a bra! / / I wish I'd been a girly, just like my dear mama! / / MPFC quirion@scf.usc.edu or quirion@hollywood.cinenet.net / ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 19:08:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA12468 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 19:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from munnari.OZ.AU (munnari.OZ.AU [128.250.1.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA12377 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 19:07:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from integral.com.au by munnari.OZ.AU with MHSnet (5.83--+1.3.1+0.56) id CA01102; Thu, 30 May 1996 12:07:22 +1000 (from henrys@integral.com.au) Received: from gauss.com.au by coulomb.integral.com.au (4.1) id AA26749; Thu, 30 May 96 12:08:15 EST Received: by gauss.com.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20150; Thu, 30 May 96 12:06:58 EST Date: Thu, 30 May 96 12:06:58 EST From: henrys@integral.com.au (Shane M Henry) Message-Id: <9605300206.AA20150@gauss.com.au> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Serial port problems on Compaq Laptop Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I seem to be having a few problems getting my Laptop to work properly with its serial board. I've tryed many things but nothing seems to work. The story so far....... I have a Compaq LTE ELITE 4/40CX running FreeBSD 2.1.0 and have configured my kernel to suit. eg: sio0 at 0x3f8 irq 4 When I boot up I get an error message saying it can't find sio0 at 0x3f8 irq 4. So I rebooted it and used the -c option at boot time and set the irq on sio0 to -1. This worked it come back with the message: sio0 at 0x3f8 at 0x3f8-0x407 on isa sio0: type 16550A The problem now is that if I use the serial port at a speed of 19200 or greater I receive the following error messages: sio0: 21 more silo overflows (total 21) At 9600 everything seems to work OK. I've read a couple of mail/news from audience@soback.kornet.nm.kr who seems to be having the same problem on his Compaq Laptop he mentioned he got a easy fix for it when he was running FreeBSD 2.0 but forgot what he done. Any help would be greatly appreciated. PS my serial board is definalty set up at 0x3f8 irq4 Thanks in advance. Shane. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 19:26:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA15701 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 19:26:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from amy11.Stanford.EDU (amy11.Stanford.EDU [36.213.0.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA15508 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 19:25:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sparkles@localhost) by amy11.Stanford.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA03700; Wed, 29 May 1996 19:24:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 19:24:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert James Williamson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Need help with DEC PCI FDDI, DEFPA Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to build a kernal that will assign my DEC PCI FDDI card with a driver. I can't find what I should add into the config file for the device. I am guessing it is something like: device fpa0 at isa? net irq? vector feaintr But I do not know for sure that this will work. Perhaps one of you can assist me in determining what the correct config line is, or can point me to some documentation that I should read? I have already read that section of the manual, as well as www.freebsd.org, which contains no additional information which is not in the manual. Thanks in advance for any help you can render me! Robert ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Robert James Williamson #include sparkles@leland.stanford.edu #include HTTP://www-leland.stanford.edu/~sparkles/ #include ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 19:38:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA17615 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 19:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jolt.eng.umd.edu (jolt.eng.umd.edu [129.2.102.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA17605 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 19:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from professor.eng.umd.edu (professor.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.207]) by jolt.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA13076 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 22:38:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by professor.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA19451; Wed, 29 May 1996 22:38:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 22:38:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@professor.eng.umd.edu To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: New config Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a new machine here, so I'm trying to get used to a new config. I definitely need some help. I have an ncr controller, with 3 scsi disks: scsi id 1 == 2.1 G, dedicated to FreeBSD (/, swap, /usr) scsi id 2 == 2.1 G, dedicated to FreeBSD (swap, /usr2) scsi id 4 == 200 M, dedicated to dos. I used to use an Adaptec controller, so I had a aha line. I can't find any controller "ncr" in LINT, do I need a controller line for this? There's lines in LINT like: # controller scbus0 at ahc0 # Single bus device # controller scbus1 at ahc1 bus 0 # Single bus device # controller scbus3 at ahc2 bus 0 # Twin bus device # controller scbus2 at ahc2 bus 1 # Twin bus device # disk sd0 at scbus0 target 0 unit 0 # disk sd1 at scbus3 target 1 What do I replace "ahc0" with for an NCR controller? I just have one NCR controller, with the 3 disks. I currently get a panic on boot, with "unable to mount root", unless I used kernel.GENERIC. Do I need device lines for the disks? It's well documented for Adaptec controllers, but seemingly not for NCR controllers. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 19:43:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA18558 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 19:43:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aeffle.Stanford.EDU (sequence.Stanford.EDU [171.65.76.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA18469 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 19:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by aeffle.Stanford.EDU; id AA18319; Wed, 29 May 1996 19:43:01 -0700 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 19:43:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Howard Lew To: Brandon Gillespie Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Cyrix chip] panic in FreeBSD-STABLE kernel.. In-Reply-To: <199605292028.OAA19802@tombstone.sunrem.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 29 May 1996, Brandon Gillespie wrote: > I put back in the i486_CPU line and it works fine, seems the Cyrix reports > itself as a 486 (I now recall a conversation in respect to this already). > > What is involved in the 586 support? Am I loosing on anything significant > by registering it as a 486? How would I go about getting it to register > as a 586 (or even better a 686) > > Enjoy; > > -Brandon > I am pretty sure there is a way to properly ID it, but I guess no one has had the time to do so. Cyrix should probably come out with some source code to properly do that for their cpus. I remember the NexGen folks provided some source code to do that for their Nx586s. Hmmm.... I wonder what the AMD K5's which are finally out will ID as... From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 20:16:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA21784 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 20:16:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA21742 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 20:15:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-1) with ESMTP id EAA03847; Thu, 30 May 1996 04:15:21 +0100 (BST) To: Robert James Williamson cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Need help with DEC PCI FDDI, DEFPA In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 29 May 1996 19:24:58 PDT." Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 04:15:20 +0100 Message-ID: <3845.833426120@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Robert James Williamson wrote in message ID : > device fpa0 at isa? net irq? vector feaintr device fpa0 should work I believe. It's in the LINT file if you want to make sure. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 20:17:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA21953 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 20:17:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from junior.lgc.com (junior.lgc.com [134.132.10.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA21947 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 20:17:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dympna by junior.lgc.com (8.6.9/lgc.1.26) id WAA09509; Wed, 29 May 1996 22:17:01 -0500 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 22:16:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Rob Snow X-Sender: rsnow@dympna To: Dave Andersen cc: Tony Clark , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9gig disk for freebsd In-Reply-To: <199605292240.QAA04739@terra.aros.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Just a personal note: Do yourself a favor and stay AWAY from the Micropolis 1991 (9GB) and 1936 (3.6GB) drives. We've replaced 15-20 (have to check to be sure) of these drives since the first of the year, accounting for 60-70% of all drive failures. FYI: the remaining failures have generally been SGI (IBM OEM) stiction drives (like the old Quantum Pro Drives from Sparc-II's we revive them by pulling them out and slinging them at arms length back and forth. When that doesn't work we hold them at 3" increasing intervals and drop them until they work or something falls off). We've also lost some OLD Wrens and had a batch of bad 'Cudas (Firmware). Finally; I'm REAL happy with the Fujistu 4.2GB drives and would recommend them highly. -- Rob Snow Sr. Systems Administrator Landmark Graphics Corporation On Wed, 29 May 1996, Dave Andersen wrote: > Someone already replied and said yes; the answer is yes. :) But as a > note of caution: One of the worst mistakes we've ever made was choosing > to use a Micropolis 9gb hard drive in two of our servers. Micropolis > built in a feature to both of the drives we purchased: They crash like > you wouldn't believe. > > Go with smaller drives (we've found drives in the 2gb-4gb range to be > perfect) and either split your files up over them, or use the ccd to > stripe them together. > > -Dave Andersen > > Lo and behold, Tony Clark once said: > > > > > > If i purchase a 9gig disk, will this be supported under freebsd 2.1.0 ? > > > > I am looking for something like a micropolis or seagate. - i already have a > > the scsi card and a 4gig disk running but i just need to know if you OS will > > support above certain disk sizes unlike SunOS 4.1.2 (about 2.5 gig) > > > > Little Tony........ > > > > Systems Administrator (PA Data Design) > -- > angio@aros.net Complete virtual hosting and business-oriented > system administration Internet services. (WWW, FTP, email) > http://www.aros.net/ http://www.aros.net/about/virtual > "There are only two industries that refer to thier customers as 'users'." From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 20:38:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA23841 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 20:38:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA23807 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 20:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ab13570; 30 May 96 4:36 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa17209; 30 May 96 0:32 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id UAA26996; Wed, 29 May 1996 20:26:01 GMT Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 20:26:01 GMT Message-Id: <199605292026.UAA26996@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: harr9446@cs.uidaho.edu CC: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from MICHAEL HARRISON on Tue, 28 May 1996 14:29:44 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: Hardware support - X windows Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I am having problems getting X configured right for my mouse. It > is plugged into com2, its a MS serial mouse, no matter what I try I can't > get the settings right. Also I have a modem on the other com port and I > can't set my device right for PPP, its a Zoom 28.8 external on com1, what > is the right setting. It might be worth double-checking you've got all the numbers straight - I have the same arrangement, but with the ports reversed. Also, remember that COM1 is /dev/cuaa0 on FreeBSD! Anyway, if the mouse is on COM2, you should have an entry in /etc/XF86Config like this:- Section "Pointer" Protocol "Microsoft" Device "/dev/cuaa1" Emulate3Buttons EndSection And the first thing you should do in PPP (I assume you're using user-mode PPP to dial out?) is set device /dev/cuaa0 (for a modem on COM1) -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland jraynard@dial.pipex.com james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 20:46:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA25171 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 20:46:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crooow.wcupa.edu (crooow.wcupa.edu [144.26.15.139]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA25142 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 20:46:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from westchester135.voicenet.com (westchester135.voicenet.com [207.103.17.214]) by crooow.wcupa.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA20819 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 23:40:58 -0400 Received: by westchester135.voicenet.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BB4DB9.01DA68C0@westchester135.voicenet.com>; Wed, 29 May 1996 23:46:07 -0400 Message-ID: <01BB4DB9.01DA68C0@westchester135.voicenet.com> From: Peter Schwenk To: "questions@FreeBSD.org" Subject: RE: installation Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 23:45:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, The Adaptec AHA2842 (Vesa Local Bus card) works fine with FreeBSD 2.1. I'm using one in a FreeBSD PC at work. It's only got one HD hooked up to it. - Peter Schwenk, Academic Computing, West Chester University of PA - pschwenk@wcupa.edu ---------- From: Doug White[SMTP:dwhite@riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 1996 7:34 AM To: Steve Chen Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org; stevec@msn.com Subject: Re: installation On Wed, 29 May 1996, Steve Chen wrote: > 80486 CPU: 66MHz > One adaptec 2840vl/2842vl SCSI controller which control my quad speed SONY > CDROM. > One EIDE controller with an 814MB hard drive. > One NE2000 compatible ethernet card. > One 14.4Kbps internal fax modern. > A Diamond Stealth SE video card with 1M memory on board. > A 15" MAGVAVOX MAGNASCAN/15 monitor with Horizontal frequency:30-66KHz and > Vertical frequence 50-11Hz. Nice box. > Because I encounter so many problems while I tried to install FreeBSD to > my system, I even get a FreeBSD 2.2 Snapshot and the booklet: Installing and > Running FreeBSD and hope if they could help me. After I read the booklet, I > have some questions. > (1) Is there any way that I can install FreeBSD to my computer with above > equipment? Should work OK. The only question is the Adaptec. I don't know if it's supported or not. > (2) If the answer is "NO", what should I do to install the FreeBSD in my > computer with the minimum cost? > If I add a extra SCSI hard drive and set it as D drive, would it be > easier to install? > Or, if, I took the EIDE controller and the 814 hard drive out of my > computer and install a SCSI hard drive, would it be helpful? My guess would be that you whould have to get a new scsi controller if that was the problem. If you don't like adaptec you could get a NCR scsi controller for $120 or so. > > (3) The original disk Geometry was: 1654 cyls/ 16 heads/ 63 sectors > During the repartition, the disk Geometry became: 827 cyls/ 32 heads/63 > sectors > And a disk space disagrement message would display while > installation. Try putting a small DOS partition on, then while installing FreeBSD delete it and put the FBSD partition over it. The DOS partition helps sysinstall determine the proper geometry. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 21:20:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA28656 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 21:20:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chaph.usc.edu (chaph.usc.edu [128.125.253.133]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA28649 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 21:20:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nunki.usc.edu (quirion@nunki.usc.edu [128.125.253.160]) by chaph.usc.edu (8.7.2/8.7.3/usc) with SMTP id VAA20710 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 21:20:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 21:20:32 -0700 (PDT) From: B QUIRION M Quirion To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: unsubscribe freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// / I cut down trees, I wear high heels, suspenders and a bra! / / I wish I'd been a girly, just like my dear mama! / / MPFC quirion@scf.usc.edu or quirion@hollywood.cinenet.net / ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 21:27:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA29582 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 21:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from amy11.Stanford.EDU (amy11.Stanford.EDU [36.213.0.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA29575; Wed, 29 May 1996 21:27:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sparkles@localhost) by amy11.Stanford.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA04080; Wed, 29 May 1996 21:27:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 21:27:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert James Williamson To: Gary Palmer cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Need help with DEC PCI FDDI, DEFPA In-Reply-To: <3845.833426120@palmer.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 30 May 1996, Gary Palmer wrote: > Robert James Williamson wrote in message ID > : > > device fpa0 at isa? net irq? vector feaintr > > device fpa0 > > should work I believe. It's in the LINT file if you want to make sure. > I made a copy of GENERIC and added the device line above to my copy. I added it immediately following the list of devices (The comment for this section of the file reads "Order is important..."). Is this the right place to add the device line? I understand that I will also need to add a fddi pseudo-device, I have added the line: pseudo-device fddi to the very end of the file. I configged the kernal and typed 'make' and the error it reported was: ioconfig.o: undefined symbol -fpadriver referenced from data segment. ioconfig.o: undefined symbol _feaintr referenced from data segment. error code 1 Perhaps you have seen this error and know how to fix it, or you can send me to some documentation that will help me diagnose the problem myself? Thanks! Robert ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Robert James Williamson #include sparkles@leland.stanford.edu #include HTTP://www-leland.stanford.edu/~sparkles/ #include ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 22:16:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA05047 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 22:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA05030 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 22:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from JISHSLIB (dyn2044a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.7.44]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id MAA12495 for ; Thu, 30 May 1996 12:15:35 +0700 (WIB) Message-ID: <31AD2FD1.3310@rad.net.id> Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 12:19:13 +0700 From: Lee han shang Reply-To: jishsco2@rad.net.id Organization: Jakarta International School X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b3Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Downloading FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear FreeBSD, I know this may sound really stupid, but I don't know how to go about downloading the whole of your program. Do I go each directory and file, one by one, or is there a compressed file(s) somewhere? Please advise me on how to go about this. Yours Sincerely, Hans L From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 22:46:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA08232 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 22:46:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.vividnet.com (mail.vividnet.com [206.149.144.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA08225 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 22:46:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andylau (postmaster@mail.vividnet.com) by mail.vividnet.com (8.7.4/8.7.5) with SMTP id WAA27151 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 22:44:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2FCAB1F6.4C22@vividnet.com> Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 22:49:42 -0700 From: "Smilepak's Creator" X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Question regarding FREEBSD and Modem X-URL: http://www.freebsd.com/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a question. Well, i currently have Windows 95 in my computer at the moment. I was thinking of buying a copy of freeBSD and installing it into my computer on a second hard drive. Is there a way to have multi boot up so i won't have to format all the valuable data i got on my computer right now to install freeBSD? second question is that i currently have an internet provider which i got PPP + Shell connection to it. I was thinking of getting freeBSD install, and use ftp, telnet, etc from my computer without login my account at the provider. Is there a way to use a 28.8k modem to connect to my provider under freeBSD? Then i can just use the compiler and editor and all the function as normal on my computer, but if i want to telnet or ftp or read mail or netnews etc, it will then go through my internet account (shell) to use it? Is that possible? Well, that is all the question i have so far. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 29 23:50:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA16755 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 29 May 1996 23:50:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from admin.cyberenet.net (admin.cyberenet.net [204.213.252.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA16750 for ; Wed, 29 May 1996 23:50:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twwells.com by admin.cyberenet.net with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #7) id m0uP1ZM-000209C; Thu, 30 May 96 02:50 EDT Received: by twwells.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uP1WP-0000ywC; Thu, 30 May 96 02:47 EDT Message-Id: From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Subject: clists problem? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 02:47:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Users on one of my systems reports that when they download, they can get no more than 1K/second. On investigation, the download program spends all its time waiting on ttybf2 -- the one for clists -- and sleeping a second between writes. I've also noticed that when I'm telnetted in and displaying entire screensful, there's a one second delay between pieces of the screen; this appears to be a result of the same problem. The question is: how do I up the number of clists available? I've doubled INITIAL_CBLOCKS and that may be the answer (I won't know until I get to reboot and see how the system behaves); however, I'd like some input from people who actually know what's going on down in ttwrite.... From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 30 00:01:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA18054 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 30 May 1996 00:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schizo.cdsnet.net (schizo.cdsnet.net [204.118.244.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA18036 for ; Thu, 30 May 1996 00:01:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (mrcpu@localhost) by schizo.cdsnet.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA00541; Thu, 30 May 1996 00:03:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 00:03:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Jaye Mathisen To: Rob Snow cc: Dave Andersen , Tony Clark , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9gig disk for freebsd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 29 May 1996, Rob Snow wrote: > Wrens and had a batch of bad 'Cudas (Firmware). Finally; I'm REAL happy > with the Fujistu 4.2GB drives and would recommend them highly. Mildly amusing. I had to take all the Fuji 4.2GB disks out of my RAID array because they kept failing under stress. Replaced them with Quantum atlas, and it's been working well. Kind of cracks me up how one person's nightmare is another person's gift-from-above... :) > > -- > Rob Snow > Sr. Systems Administrator > Landmark Graphics Corporation > > > On Wed, 29 May 1996, Dave Andersen wrote: > > Someone already replied and said yes; the answer is yes. :) But as a > > note of caution: One of the worst mistakes we've ever made was choosing > > to use a Micropolis 9gb hard drive in two of our servers. Micropolis > > built in a feature to both of the drives we purchased: They crash like > > you wouldn't believe. > > > > Go with smaller drives (we've found drives in the 2gb-4gb range to be > > perfect) and either split your files up over them, or use the ccd to > > stripe them together. > > > > -Dave Andersen > > > > Lo and behold, Tony Clark once said: > > > > > > > > > If i purchase a 9gig disk, will this be supported under freebsd 2.1.0 ? > > > > > > I am looking for something like a micropolis or seagate. - i already have a > > > the scsi card and a 4gig disk running but i just need to know if you OS will > > > support above certain disk sizes unlike SunOS 4.1.2 (about 2.5 gig) > > > > > > Little Tony........ > > > > > > Systems Administrator (PA Data Design) > > -- > > angio@aros.net Complete virtual hosting and business-oriented > > system administration Internet services. (WWW, FTP, email) > > http://www.aros.net/ http://www.aros.net/about/virtual > > "There are only two industries that refer to thier customers as 'users'." > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 30 00:29:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA22200 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 30 May 1996 00:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dworshak.cs.uidaho.edu (root@dworshak.cs.uidaho.edu [129.101.100.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA22191 for ; Thu, 30 May 1996 00:29:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from waldrog.cs.uidaho.edu (waldrog.cs.uidaho.edu [129.101.100.23]) by dworshak.cs.uidaho.edu (8.7.5/1.1) with ESMTP id AAA16467; Thu, 30 May 1996 00:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (harr9446@localhost) by waldrog.cs.uidaho.edu (8.7.5/1.0) id AAA14982; Thu, 30 May 1996 00:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 00:29:01 -0700 (PDT) From: MICHAEL HARRISON To: Michael Smith cc: questions@freebsd.com Subject: Re: Hardware support - X windows In-Reply-To: <199605240038.KAA10650@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk OK, lsat question, Have everything else working, except my CDROM. Here's the setup: Creative Labs (Sound Blaster) 6x IDE/ATAPI CDROM on a proprietary isa card I can't get FreeBSD to recognize this, so after reading the haandbooks many times and recompiling many time here I am. Anybody know the settings. Mike PS: Thanks to everyone who has been patiet with me so far. esp Mischael Smith. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 30 00:51:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA25534 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 30 May 1996 00:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy.siemens.at (proxy.siemens.at [192.138.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA25523 for ; Thu, 30 May 1996 00:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sol1.gud.siemens.co.at (sol-f.gud.siemens-austria) by proxy.siemens.at with SMTP id AA13579 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 30 May 1996 09:50:05 +0200 Received: from ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at by sol1.gud.siemens.co.at with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7 for ) id m0uP2Uf-00020CC; Thu, 30 May 96 09:50 MET DST Received: by ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at (1.37.109.16/1.37) id AA256052391; Thu, 30 May 1996 09:46:31 +0200 From: "Hr.Ladavac" Message-Id: <199605300746.AA256052391@ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at> Subject: Re: c source grep To: gurney_j@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 09:46:31 +0200 (MESZ) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "John-Mark Gurney" at May 29, 96 11:25:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In his e-mail John-Mark Gurney wrote: > I am looking for a utility that will be able to search a source file and > it's includes in search of something like a struct of a function > declaration... I'm not sure it such a util exists... if it doesn't I > will write one... but I don't want to re-invent the wheel... (almost said > invent the wheel :) )... thanks for your pointers... TTYL.. etags or ctags might be useful to you. To be used with emacs or vi, respectively. The others are cxref and cscope, available(?) from AT&T. /Marino From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 30 01:50:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA05972 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 30 May 1996 01:50:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA05946 for ; Thu, 30 May 1996 01:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id KAA28138; Thu, 30 May 1996 10:49:54 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (KAA01448); Thu, 30 May 1996 10:47:46 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199605301047.KAA01448@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: Downloading FreeBSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 10:47:46 +0000 (GMT) Cc: jishsco2@rad.net.id In-Reply-To: <31AD2FD1.3310@rad.net.id> from "Lee han shang" at May 30, 96 12:19:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I know this may sound really stupid, but I don't know how to go about > downloading the whole of your program. Do I go each directory and file, > one by one, or is there a compressed file(s) somewhere? Please advise me > on how to go about this. No, the ftpd on ftp.FreeBSD.org understands if you type get bin.tar.gz (it will tar the bin directory, and compress it with gzip) -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 30 01:50:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA05967 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 30 May 1996 01:50:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA05945 for ; Thu, 30 May 1996 01:50:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id KAA28135; Thu, 30 May 1996 10:49:52 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (KAA01395); Thu, 30 May 1996 10:44:09 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199605301044.KAA01395@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: Where can I find makedepend? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 10:44:09 +0000 (GMT) Cc: craigs@os.com (Craig Shrimpton) In-Reply-To: <199605292111.RAA11915@solar.os.com> from "Craig Shrimpton" at May 29, 96 05:04:35 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Folks, > > I'm looking for a copy of makedepend. I was told it's in the X > distribution. I only need makedepend, do I have to get the entire XFree set? Try mkdep(1), it's a (not-too) simple shell script, which uses cpp. Or, use gcc -M (man gcc, and search for depend) -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 30 01:57:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA07137 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 30 May 1996 01:57:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy.siemens.at (proxy.siemens.at [192.138.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA07090 for ; Thu, 30 May 1996 01:57:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sol1.gud.siemens.co.at (sol-f.gud.siemens-austria) by proxy.siemens.at with SMTP id AA17041 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 30 May 1996 10:56:46 +0200 Received: from ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at by sol1.gud.siemens.co.at with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7 for ) id m0uP3X5-00020DC; Thu, 30 May 96 10:56 MET DST Received: by ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at (1.37.109.16/1.37) id AA111666241; Thu, 30 May 1996 10:50:41 +0200 From: "Hr.Ladavac" Message-Id: <199605300850.AA111666241@ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at> Subject: Re: Downloading FreeBSD To: jishsco2@rad.net.id Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 10:50:40 +0200 (MESZ) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31AD2FD1.3310@rad.net.id> from "Lee han shang" at May 30, 96 12:19:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In his e-mail Lee han shang wrote: > Dear FreeBSD, > > I know this may sound really stupid, but I don't know how to go about > downloading the whole of your program. Do I go each directory and file, > one by one, or is there a compressed file(s) somewhere? Please advise me > on how to go about this. Well, you can get it piecemeal or gulp the whole thing. Please note that the ftp server at ftp.freebsd.org runs wu-ftpd which allows you to tell get foo.tar.gz, and you get the whole directory tree rooted at foo as a nice gzipped tar file. I would advise against getting the whole freebsd that way since you will violate export restrictions on cryptographic codes. Instead, go into the freebsd repository (2.1-RELEASE, whatever) and get it directory-by-directory, tar-gzipped. Please avoid the directory securedist; get it from internat.freebsd.org /Marino From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 30 02:00:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA07826 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 30 May 1996 02:00:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dreamlabs.dreaming.org (root@dreamlabs.dreaming.org [206.116.10.25]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA07813 for ; Thu, 30 May 1996 02:00:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mitayai@localhost) by dreamlabs.dreaming.org (8.7.5/8.6.12) id EAA02487; Thu, 30 May 1996 04:59:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 04:59:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Will Mitayai Keeso Rowe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: DES vs MD5 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello! I'm sitting here on a -current system where MD5 encryption has been installed and i am trying to compile the htpasswd utility in the apache-1.0.5 src (right from a ports tree that i supped 10 minues ago). It fails, unfortuneately, but that really doesnt bother me enough to ask you about it, but i have a hunch that it is related to something i've wanted to do for a long time: convert my system from MD5 to DES (canada is an "export ok" country) and i have NO clue how to begin and what the "price" will be (it's a live system with a huge hunk o' users) Any suggestions, or any pointers to docs that anyone can help me with? -Mit %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % Mitayai | ShyOne % % Project Co-ordinator | Reality Engineer % % DreamLabs | Arcturia Three % % mitayai@dreaming.org | shyone@constantchange.on.ca % %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 30 02:03:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA08223 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 30 May 1996 02:03:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ac (ac.ac.ac.th [203.155.0.97]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA08207 for ; Thu, 30 May 1996 02:03:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ac1.ac.ac.th by ac (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA13880; Thu, 30 May 1996 16:06:13 +0700 Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 16:06:39 +0700 (GMT+0700) From: Sugree Phatanapherom To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Installation ?? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Error occured during choose extract command. How to correct this problem ? My system is : Pentium 75 Ram 16M Hdd 514M E-IDE I installed via ftp passive. Thank for your help. ------ Sugree Phatanapherom sugreep@ac1.ac.ac.th http://ac1.ac.ac.th/~sugreep/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 30 02:17:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA10721 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 30 May 1996 02:17:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from liberty.ca.idt.net (root@idt.liberty.com [199.89.140.119]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA10702 for ; Thu, 30 May 1996 02:17:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from IDT.liberty.com (ppp117.liberty.com [199.89.140.17]) by liberty.ca.idt.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA04216 for ; Thu, 30 May 1996 02:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <31AD6689.3780@idt.liberty.com> Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 02:12:41 -0700 From: Fred Adorno Reply-To: fadorn19@idt.liberty.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: PPPD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How do I install this daemon? From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 30 02:19:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA11025 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 30 May 1996 02:19:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from esimene.cynet.net.au (esimene.cynet.net.au [203.24.16.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA10983 for ; Thu, 30 May 1996 02:19:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WARP.CYNET.NET.AU ([203.24.16.100]) by esimene.cynet.net.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA00861 for ; Thu, 30 May 1996 19:18:48 +1000 Message-Id: <199605300918.TAA00861@esimene.cynet.net.au> From: "Mikel Lindsaar" Reply-to: mikel@esimene.cynet.net.au Date: Thu, 30 May 96 19:17:06 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Mount(8) error on bootup and SCSI CD-ROM X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.00 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk May 30 17:39:38 esimene mountd[85]: Can't open /var/db/mountdtab I get this at bootup. I have an adaptec 2842 controller with a SCSI cdrom. sysinstall created /cdrom but it is not automounting the current cdrom. I suspect the above is the cause of this. Any ideas? Regards and Salutations, Mikel -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Mikel Lindsaar | "If the dream is big enough, mikel@bns.com.au | the facts don't count!" ----------------------------------------------------------- (Under Construction) http://www.bns.com.au/webdev/mikel/ ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 30 03:01:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA19309 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 30 May 1996 03:01:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from opnor.comdyn.com.au (opnor.comdyn.com.au [203.63.132.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA19293 for ; Thu, 30 May 1996 03:01:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by opnor.comdyn.com.au id UAA25051 (8.7.5/IDA-1.6 for ); Thu, 30 May 1996 20:00:58 +1000 (EST) Received: from keper.comdyn.com.au(172.16.1.40) by opnor.comdyn.com.au via smap (V1.3) id sma025049; Thu May 30 20:00:47 1996 Received: from comdyn.comdyn.com.au (comdyn.comdyn.com.au [172.16.128.6]) by keper.comdyn.com.au with SMTP id UAA18559 (8.7.5/IDA-1.6 for ); Thu, 30 May 1996 20:02:38 +1000 (EST) Received: by comdyn.comdyn.com.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17871; Thu, 30 May 96 20:00:32 EST Date: Thu, 30 May 96 20:00:32 EST From: dem@comdyn.com.au (David Mikov) Message-Id: <9605301000.AA17871@comdyn.comdyn.com.au> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: ASUS or TYAN or SUPERMICRO ??? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear All, I'm currently trying to decide between several motherboards which use the Intel Triton 2 chipset to run FreeBSD 2.1: ASUS P/I-P55T2P4 (Intel 430HX PCIset) TYAN Tomcat I (S1562) (Intel 430HX Chipset) SUPERMICRO P55T2S (Intel 430HX PCIset) Questions: Are these motherboards being successfully used with FreeBSD 2.1 ? Is there another motherboard which is a preference to all the above ? Should I stay with motherboards using the Intel Triton 1 (430FX) ? Also has anyone ran Solaris x86 v2.5 on these boards, not really the appropiate mailing list I know but thought I'd ask anyway ? Thanks in advance, regards DEM. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 30 03:20:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA21264 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 30 May 1996 03:20:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uu.elvisti.kiev.ua ([193.125.28.132]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA20590; Thu, 30 May 1996 03:16:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from office.elvisti.kiev.ua (office.elvisti.kiev.ua [193.125.28.129]) by uu.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA06287; Thu, 30 May 1996 13:17:16 +0300 (EET DST) Received: (from stesin@localhost) by office.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.6.12/8.ElVisti) id NAA16958; Thu, 30 May 1996 13:17:11 +0300 From: "Andrew V. Stesin" Message-Id: <199605301017.NAA16958@office.elvisti.kiev.ua> Subject: Re: Mysterious crashes of FreeBSD gateway -- caugh it(?) To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 13:17:11 +0300 (EET DST) Cc: stesin@elvisti.kiev.ua, questions@freebsd.org, scsi@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at May 29, 96 02:17:28 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha5] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk # On Tue, 28 May 1996, Andrew V. Stesin wrote: # # > When a Compex ReadyLink (DEC 21041-based) PCI ethernet was replaced # > by a random NE2000, the trouble almost gone -- the box was up for # > some days, just Ok. # # Someone has noted that recent Compex's don't work well with FreeBSD. # That may clear up some of your random crashes. Yes, indeed. Compex ReadyLink Rev. D1 worked (and still works) perfectly; Rev.D2 -- problems... # > When doing a massive TCP transfers to the 1.1.5-connected subnet, # > or even ping -f, a high network load was inspired on a gateway # > machine (receive a packet -- forvard it -- send redirect). # > NE2000 worked fine, but NCR driver started to through messages # > about I/O errors, "NCR dead", etc. Then gateway rebooted itself. # # I wonder if you have a resource conflict between the NCR and your # ethernet card. I doubt. Ether (NE2000) is on ISA port 0x280 irq 5 -- nothing even close to NCR. # My NCR may be broke but I had to manually set the IRQ in # the PC BIOS. Yes, I do it always by hand (NCR uses a jumper-settable PCI INT, by default -- INT A. I don't know details, but from my experience it's wise to set NCR's PCI slot to use INT A manually; problems otherwise). # Make sure that the ethernet card and the NCR aren't sharing # resources. Is it possible at all? # # Doug White | University of Oregon # Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant # http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major # -- With best regards -- Andrew Stesin. +380 (44) 2760188 +380 (44) 2713457 +380 (44) 2713560 "You may delegate authority, but not responsibility." Frank's Management Rule #1. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 30 04:09:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA29092 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 30 May 1996 04:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uu.elvisti.kiev.ua ([193.125.28.132]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA28742; Thu, 30 May 1996 04:08:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from office.elvisti.kiev.ua (office.elvisti.kiev.ua [193.125.28.129]) by uu.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA07338; Thu, 30 May 1996 14:05:04 +0300 (EET DST) Received: (from stesin@localhost) by office.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.6.12/8.ElVisti) id OAA17791; Thu, 30 May 1996 14:05:03 +0300 From: "Andrew V. Stesin" Message-Id: <199605301105.OAA17791@office.elvisti.kiev.ua> Subject: Re: Mysterious crashes of FreeBSD gateway -- caugh it(?) To: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl (Wilko Bulte) Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 14:05:02 +0300 (EET DST) Cc: stesin@elvisti.kiev.ua, questions@freebsd.org, scsi@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199605292055.WAA11549@yedi.iaf.nl> from "Wilko Bulte" at May 29, 96 10:55:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha5] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi again, # # As Andrew V. Stesin wrote... # # > When doing a massive TCP transfers to the 1.1.5-connected subnet, # > or even ping -f, a high network load was inspired on a gateway # > machine (receive a packet -- forvard it -- send redirect). # > NE2000 worked fine, but NCR driver started to through messages # > about I/O errors, "NCR dead", etc. Then gateway rebooted itself. # > # > What I want to ask. # > # > What might be the source of that trouble? Poor motherboard quality, when # > an overloaded (?! is it an overload?) either ISA or PCI bus forces NCR # > to go asleep? Or is it a bug in TCP/IP stack or IPfilter, or # > their interraction with NCR driver, tickled # > with the nessesity to process IP/ICMP packets at a very high rate? # # > I strongly suspect a hardware problem, but maybe there are other # > opinions? # # I have also seen this happen with a SCSI device that was not 'liked' # by the ncr driver. After changing the firmware of the _device_ (a tape) # the problem went away. I doubt here. Another (similar SCSI hardware) box is rock solid with the same configuration of NCR and Conner drive. The two differences between boxes are: 1) motherboards, 2) gateway has IPfilter inside. Is it possible, for example, that a complex set of filtering rules are processed at a high priority in the kernel while packets are "accepted"-"filtered on input"-"forvarded"-"filtered on output"-"output" ? and for the time of processing packets NCR interrupts are missed? (I don't know much about the things like splnet() etc. :( for a pity. Where can I read about them, BTW?) # A 'dead' ncr is a perfectly acceptable reason for the system to reboot # itself (at least it was on mine). Definitely. # I admit this does not correlate well with your ethernet board swapping, # but it is another datapoint on 'dead' ncrs # # Wilko # _ __________________________________________________________________________ # | / o / / _ Wilko Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl # |/|/ / / /( (_) Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem - The Netherlands # -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- # -- With best regards -- Andrew Stesin. +380 (44) 2760188 +380 (44) 2713457 +380 (44) 2713560 "You may delegate authority, but not responsibility." Frank's Management Rule #1. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 30 04:13:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA29993 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 30 May 1996 04:13:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eros.britain.eu.net (eros.Britain.EU.net [192.91.199.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA29976 for ; Thu, 30 May 1996 04:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nadt.org.uk by eros.britain.eu.net with UUCP id ; Thu, 30 May 1996 12:12:52 +0100 Received: from [194.155.224.204] (infomac.nadt.org.uk [194.155.224.204]) by charlie.nadt.org.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA05993 for ; Thu, 30 May 1996 11:49:30 +0100 Posted-Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 11:49:30 +0100 X-Sender: robmel@mailhost Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 11:45:59 +0100 To: questions@freebsd.org From: robmel@nadt.org.uk (Robin Melville) Subject: Excessive interrupts question Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear FreeBSD people, I have 2.1 running on a Hewlett Packard NetServer with a NE2000 clone ether card and HP-doctored Adaptech 7770 on-board scsi with one 2Gb disk. It runs ok but very sluggishly. Checking with xperfmon++ I discover that something's generating 20k+ interrupts per second. Can anyone suggest what I should do to solve this? Many Thanks. Robin. ----------------------------------------------- Robin Melville, Addiction Information Service Nottingham Alcohol & Drug Team Vox +44 (0)115 952 9478 Fax +44 (0)115 952 9421 Email: robmel@nadt.org.uk WWW: http://www.innotts.co.uk/suba/ ----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 30 04:26:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA02493 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 30 May 1996 04:26:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tommie.ngonet.be (tommie.ngonet.be [193.190.166.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA01963 for ; Thu, 30 May 1996 04:23:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from koekiemonster.ngonet.be (koekiemonster.ngonet.be [193.190.166.75]) by tommie.ngonet.be (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA00296 for ; Thu, 30 May 1996 13:18:22 +0200 Message-ID: <31AD8417.39C9@ngonet.be> Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 13:18:47 +0200 From: Gunter Loos Organization: NgoNet - Brussels X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: PPP Routing (again) X-URL: http://www.de.freebsd.org/support.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk