From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 29 00:06:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA21326 for current-outgoing; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 00:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soleil.uvsq.fr (soleil.uvsq.fr [193.51.24.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA21320 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 00:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arts.ratp.fr (arts.ratp.fr [193.106.40.1]) by soleil.uvsq.fr (8.8.5/jtpda-5.2) with ESMTP id JAA12671 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 09:06:37 +0200 (METDST) Received: by arts.ratp.fr id JAA23679 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 09:06:35 +0200 (DST) Received: from minos.noisy.ratp by arts.ratp.fr with SMTP id SAA023677 for ; Sun Jun 29 09:06:27 1997 Received: from fugue.noisy.ratp (taillandier.rtc.ratp [192.25.83.123]) by minos.noisy.ratp with ESMTP id JAA17850 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 09:06:25 +0200 (DST) Received: by fugue.noisy.ratp id JAA00377 ; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 09:06:07 +0200 (DST) From: Janick.Taillandier@ratp.fr (Janick Taillandier) Message-ID: <19970629090606.41531@fugue.noisy.ratp> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 09:06:06 +0200 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Problem with HP DAT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76e Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have just upgraded my system from a rather old 2.2 SNAP to 3.0 CURRENT (I am using a SMP kernel on a Dell optiplex with 2 Pentium Pro). Everything seems to be fine, but the DAT connected to and NCR card is not recognized during the boot. Here is the relevant part of a boot -v : Jun 29 08:53:43 chaconne /kernel: ncr0: rev 0x02 int a irq 18 on pci1.10.0 Jun 29 08:53:43 chaconne /kernel: ncr0: restart (scsi reset). Jun 29 08:53:44 chaconne /kernel: BIOS values: dmode: 00, dcntl: a1, ctest3: 20 Jun 29 08:53:44 chaconne /kernel: dmode: ce/00, dcntl: a1/a1, ctest3: 01/20 Jun 29 08:53:44 chaconne /kernel: ncr0 scanning for targets 0..6 (V2 pl24 96/12/14) Jun 29 08:53:44 chaconne /kernel: Choosing drivers for scbus configured at 1 Jun 29 08:53:44 chaconne /kernel: ncr0: waiting for scsi devices to settle Jun 29 08:53:44 chaconne /kernel: scbus1 at ncr0 bus 0 Jun 29 08:53:44 chaconne /kernel: cd0 at scbus1 target 3 lun 0 Jun 29 08:53:44 chaconne /kernel: cd0: type 5 removable SCSI 2 Jun 29 08:53:44 chaconne /kernel: cd0: CD-ROM Jun 29 08:53:44 chaconne /kernel: cd0: NCR quirks=0x2 Jun 29 08:53:44 chaconne /kernel: Jun 29 08:53:44 chaconne /kernel: cd0: 10.0 MB/s (100 ns, offset 8) Jun 29 08:53:44 chaconne /kernel: can't get the size Jun 29 08:53:44 chaconne /kernel: scbus1 target 4 lun 0: COMMAND FAILED (4 1) @f063bb10. Jun 29 08:53:44 chaconne /kernel: scbus1 target 4 lun 0: phase change 2-3 6@0003ec58 resid=5. Jun 29 08:53:44 chaconne /kernel: scbus1 target 4 lun 0: COMMAND FAILED (4 1) @f0639400. Jun 29 08:53:44 chaconne /kernel: scbus1 target 4 lun 0: phase change 2-3 6@0003ec58 resid=5. Jun 29 08:53:44 chaconne /kernel: scbus1 target 4 lun 0: COMMAND FAILED (4 1) @f0639400. Jun 29 08:53:44 chaconne /kernel: scbus1 target 4 lun 0: phase change 2-3 6@0003ec58 resid=5. Jun 29 08:53:44 chaconne /kernel: scbus1 target 4 lun 0: COMMAND FAILED (4 1) @f0639400. I don't think the problem is with the DAT as it is working on other machines. Did I miss something ? Any idea of what is wrong ? Thanks, Janick Taillandier From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 29 06:07:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA01723 for current-outgoing; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 06:07:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dolphin.neosoft.com (as5200-port-254.no.neosoft.com [206.27.167.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA01705; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 06:07:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by dolphin.neosoft.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA11620; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 08:06:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199706290402.AAA29410@pent.vnet.net> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 08:04:09 -0500 (CDT) Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. From: Conrad Sabatier To: awhawks@vnet.net Subject: RE: xfmail problems in current Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Try grabbing XFMail version 1.1. It's working fine for me under -current (I just installed the binaries; didn't try compiling it). Incidentally, I did try compiling under 2.2.2, before I decided to be brave and upgrade to -current. :-) Got the same errors as you. -- Conrad Sabatier http://www.neosoft.com/~conrads/ From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 29 07:48:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA04488 for current-outgoing; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 07:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dolphin.neosoft.com (as5200-port-254.no.neosoft.com [206.27.167.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA04483 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 07:48:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by dolphin.neosoft.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA00856 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 09:48:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 09:43:51 -0500 (CDT) Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. From: Conrad Sabatier To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: RE: finger date problem Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 27-Jun-97 Conrad Sabatier wrote: >Please excuse me if this has come up already; just joining the list. > >Since installing current, finger returns erroneous date info: > ># finger conrads >Login Name TTY Idle Login Time Office >Phone >conrads Conrad Sabatier p1 Dec 31 1969 > >Same date every time. My system clock is properly set, and date returns >the correct info. As it turned out, a rebuild of xterm cured the problem (found the answer in the list archives; I *really* must remember to check there first). :-) Still, I'm wondering about something. If I start an X session under xdm *without* starting an xterm, it appears as if I'm not logged in at all. Is there a rationale for this that I'm not aware of? Or possibly some way to get xdm to create a utmp entry? I've tried sessreg, but it sees to have no effect. -- Conrad Sabatier http://www.neosoft.com/~conrads/ From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 29 10:21:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA08934 for current-outgoing; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 10:21:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA08927 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 10:21:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id TAA17977; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 19:21:38 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA29839; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 18:56:34 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970629185634.GY57244@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 18:56:34 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: conrads@neosoft.com (Conrad Sabatier) Subject: Re: finger date problem References: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: ; from Conrad Sabatier on Jun 29, 1997 09:43:51 -0500 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Conrad Sabatier wrote: > Still, I'm wondering about something. If I start an X session under xdm > *without* starting an xterm, it appears as if I'm not logged in at all. > Is there a rationale for this that I'm not aware of? Or possibly some way > to get xdm to create a utmp entry? Recompile xdm as well. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 29 10:30:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA09247 for current-outgoing; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 10:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dolphin.neosoft.com (as5200-port-254.no.neosoft.com [206.27.167.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09242 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 10:30:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by dolphin.neosoft.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA28984 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 12:30:40 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19970629185634.GY57244@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 12:27:23 -0500 (CDT) Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. From: Conrad Sabatier To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: finger date problem Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 29-Jun-97 J Wunsch wrote: >As Conrad Sabatier wrote: > >> Still, I'm wondering about something. If I start an X session under xdm >> *without* starting an xterm, it appears as if I'm not logged in at all. >> Is there a rationale for this that I'm not aware of? Or possibly some >> way to get xdm to create a utmp entry? > >Recompile xdm as well. Duh. :-) OK. (Why didn't I think of that?) As a matter of fact, I'm building the entire XFree86 3.3 distribution right now. So far, so good. No errors yet (crossing fingers). -- Conrad Sabatier http://www.neosoft.com/~conrads/ From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 29 11:22:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA11553 for current-outgoing; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 11:22:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11548 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 11:22:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA00962 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 11:22:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199706291822.LAA00962@austin.polstra.com> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: NFS-related process hangs in -current Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 11:22:39 -0700 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I updated my -current box on Friday night, and since then I've been seeing some process hangs that seem to be related to NFS. This is with -current CVSupped around 20:50 PDT on June 27 (full make world plus kernel build). The problem shows up when I try to build the modula-3-lib port on a filesystem that is NFS-mounted from another system. The NFS server is running 2.2-stable. At some point in the build, the "quake" program (M3's answer to "make", *sigh*) hangs in disk wait state. It is unkillable after that -- the only way to get rid of it is by rebooting. Other processes continue to work OK. Interestingly, I tried it twice and it hung at the same point both times. Each test takes a long time, so I only have those two data points so far. I built the same port on a local filesystem without any problems. Does this ring a bell for anybody? I haven't tried building this port via NFS for quite a while, so the problem is not necessarily very new. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 29 13:58:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA17438 for current-outgoing; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 13:58:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from frmug.org (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17431 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 13:58:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.org (8.8.5/8.8.5/frmug-2.0) with UUCP id WAA22802 for current@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 22:58:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from charnier@localhost) by xp11.frmug.org (8.8.5/8.8.5/xp11-uucp-1.1) id WAA25480; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 22:05:56 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 22:05:56 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199706292005.WAA25480@xp11.frmug.org> From: Philippe Charnier MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: environmental vs environment X-Mailer: VM 6.31 under Emacs 19.34.1 Reply-To: charnier@xp11.frmug.org Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Man pages are speaking about environmental variables, other say environment variables. What is the correct spelling? -- ------ ------ Philippe Charnier charnier@lirmm.fr (smtp) charnier@xp11.frmug.org (uucp) ``a PC not running FreeBSD is like a venusian with no tentacles'' ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 29 14:44:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA18520 for current-outgoing; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 14:44:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA18510 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 14:44:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id XAA20348 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 23:44:02 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA00707; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 23:34:52 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970629233452.OA27089@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 23:34:52 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: finger date problem References: <19970629185634.GY57244@uriah.heep.sax.de> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: ; from Conrad Sabatier on Jun 29, 1997 12:27:23 -0500 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Conrad Sabatier wrote: > >Recompile xdm as well. > > Duh. :-) OK. (Why didn't I think of that?) > > As a matter of fact, I'm building the entire XFree86 3.3 distribution right > now. So far, so good. No errors yet (crossing fingers). xdm and xterm were the culprits. I'm surprised you didn't find this when searching the mailinglists. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 29 20:56:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA01692 for current-outgoing; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 20:56:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.neosoft.com (as5200-port-254.no.neosoft.com [206.27.167.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA01683 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 20:56:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by localhost.neosoft.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA00707 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 22:56:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19970629233452.OA27089@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 22:54:03 -0500 (CDT) Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. From: Conrad Sabatier To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: finger date problem Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 29-Jun-97 J Wunsch wrote: >As Conrad Sabatier wrote: >> >> As a matter of fact, I'm building the entire XFree86 3.3 distribution >> right now. So far, so good. No errors yet (crossing fingers). > >xdm and xterm were the culprits. I'm surprised you didn't find this >when searching the mailinglists. I did see some messages about xterm. Anyway, I've been wanting to upgrade to XFree86 3.3. :-) -- Conrad Sabatier http://www.neosoft.com/~conrads/ From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 29 21:13:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA02339 for current-outgoing; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 21:13:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from warrane.connect.com.au (warrane.connect.com.au [192.189.54.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA02333 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 21:13:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gurney.zeta.org.au (d2.syd2.zeta.org.au [203.26.11.2]) by warrane.connect.com.au with ESMTP id OAA07216 (8.8.5/IDA-1.6); Mon, 30 Jun 1997 14:10:07 +1000 (EST) Received: (from andrew@localhost) by gurney.zeta.org.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA00381; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 14:08:05 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 14:08:05 +1000 (EST) From: Andrew Reilly Message-Id: <199706300408.OAA00381@gurney.zeta.org.au> To: current@FreeBSD.org, current-users@NetBSD.ORG Subject: support for or experience of Fujitsu DynaMO drives? Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, Can anyone comment on whether the Fujitsu DynaMO magneto-optical 640M drives work with FreeBSD or NetBSD? They seem to be reasonably priced, and the media is cheaper per byte than ZIP (and much cheaper than JAZZ). There seems to be several varieties of media available, but the types my local dealer has are the 230M and 640M. From a quick study of the Fujitsu web site, the 128M, 230M and 540M formats have 512-byte sectors, so I would not expect any problems with these. The 640M capacity disks have 2k-byte sectors, though. I know that most BSD filesystems make some pretty strong assumptions about the size of sectors, but wondered whether there were work-arounds in place. I guess I could put a TAR archive on one of these even if an FFS partition does not work? Thanks for any suggestions or pointers. -- Andrew "The steady state of disks is full." -- Ken Thompson From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 29 22:21:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA04903 for current-outgoing; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 22:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA04897 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 22:21:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id HAA24546; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 07:21:12 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA02949; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 06:57:10 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970630065710.XV54411@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 06:57:10 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@FreeBSD.ORG, current-users@NetBSD.ORG Cc: reilly@zeta.org.au (Andrew Reilly) Subject: Re: support for or experience of Fujitsu DynaMO drives? References: <199706300408.OAA00381@gurney.zeta.org.au> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199706300408.OAA00381@gurney.zeta.org.au>; from Andrew Reilly on Jun 30, 1997 14:08:05 +1000 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Andrew Reilly wrote: > Can anyone comment on whether the Fujitsu DynaMO > magneto-optical 640M drives work with FreeBSD or NetBSD? FreeBSD even has an own driver handling the slightly different requirements of removable media devices (od(4)). If this drive probes as T_OPTICAL (type 7), it should be automatically assigned to the od(4) driver. The plain sd(4) driver should work as well, but things like ignoring the first unit attention condition after a media change, or handling the insertion of a medium with a different size might fail, or at least cause annoying warnings. > There seems to be several varieties of media available, but > the types my local dealer has are the 230M and 640M. From a > quick study of the Fujitsu web site, the 128M, 230M and 540M > formats have 512-byte sectors, so I would not expect any > problems with these. I would expect the same. > The 640M capacity disks have 2k-byte sectors, though. I > know that most BSD filesystems make some pretty strong > assumptions about the size of sectors, but wondered whether > there were work-arounds in place. The filesystems don't make many assumptions about the sector size, but the filesystem implementations do. FreeBSD tries to handle some of the issues of sector sizes > 512 bytes, but i know it's not yet at the point where it should be. So it might work, but it might also fail. > I guess I could put a TAR archive on one of these even if an > FFS partition does not work? Sure, you can always use the raw device, with the appropriate block size. For a 2 KB medium, you should be able to create an ISO9660 filesystem and mount it without problems. :-) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jun 29 23:07:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA06516 for current-outgoing; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 23:07:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fgwmail2.fujitsu.co.jp (fgwmail2.fujitsu.co.jp [164.71.1.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA06510 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 23:07:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fdmmail.fujitsu.co.jp by fgwmail2.fujitsu.co.jp (8.8.5+2.7Wbeta5/3.5Wpl3-MX970520-Fujitsu Mail Gateway) id PAA14475; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 15:07:13 +0900 (JST) Received: from matt by fdmmail.fujitsu.co.jp (8.8.5+2.7Wbeta5/3.5Wpl3-970514-Fujitsu Domain Mail Master) id PAA04440; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 15:06:39 +0900 (JST) Received: (from minoura@localhost) by matt (SMI-8.6/3.5Wpl297011417) id PAA23130; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 15:06:33 +0900 To: Andrew Reilly Cc: current@FreeBSD.org, current-users@NetBSD.ORG Subject: Re: support for or experience of Fujitsu DynaMO drives? References: <199706300408.OAA00381@gurney.zeta.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: minoura@kawasaki.flab.fujitsu.co.jp (MINOURA Makoto / =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCTCcxOhsoQiAbJEI/PxsoQg==?=) Date: 30 Jun 1997 15:06:32 +0900 In-Reply-To: Andrew Reilly's message of Mon, 30 Jun 1997 14:08:05 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: Lines: 25 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.50/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk |> In <199706300408.OAA00381@gurney.zeta.org.au> |> Andrew Reilly wrote: Andrew> Can anyone comment on whether the Fujitsu DynaMO Andrew> magneto-optical 640M drives work with FreeBSD or NetBSD? I am using Fujitsu's 640M mo drives with NetBSD/sparc (1.2E) NetBSD/i386 (1.2G) FreeBSD-2.2.2R (using od(4) driver) boxes with no problem. Andrew> The 640M capacity disks have 2k-byte sectors, though. I Andrew> know that most BSD filesystems make some pretty strong Andrew> assumptions about the size of sectors, but wondered whether Andrew> there were work-arounds in place. As of NetBSD, please refer to the problem report kern/3790, kern/3791, kern/3792 submitted by Koji Imada, and the resent discussion on the tech-kern mailing list. -- MINOURA, Makoto (Mr) Integrated Networks Laboratory, Fujitsu Labs. Ltd., JAPAN From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 30 01:22:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA12172 for current-outgoing; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 01:22:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.20.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA12167 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 01:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (8.8.5/8.7.3) id KAA18632; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:21:17 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <19970630102116.22811@phy.uni-bayreuth.de> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:21:16 +0200 From: Charlie & To: John Polstra Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS-related process hangs in -current References: <199706291822.LAA00962@austin.polstra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.73 In-Reply-To: <199706291822.LAA00962@austin.polstra.com>; from John Polstra on Sun, Jun 29, 1997 at 11:22:39AM -0700 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, Jun 29, 1997 at 11:22:39AM -0700, John Polstra wrote: > I updated my -current box on Friday night, and since then I've been > seeing some process hangs that seem to be related to NFS. This is > with -current CVSupped around 20:50 PDT on June 27 (full make world > plus kernel build). > > The problem shows up when I try to build the modula-3-lib port on a > filesystem that is NFS-mounted from another system. The NFS server > is running 2.2-stable. At some point in the build, the "quake" > program (M3's answer to "make", *sigh*) hangs in disk wait state. > It is unkillable after that -- the only way to get rid of it is by > rebooting. Other processes continue to work OK. > > Interestingly, I tried it twice and it hung at the same point both > times. Each test takes a long time, so I only have those two data > points so far. > > I built the same port on a local filesystem without any problems. > > Does this ring a bell for anybody? I haven't tried building this > port via NFS for quite a while, so the problem is not necessarily > very new. > > John > -- > John Polstra jdp@polstra.com > John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA > "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth Have the same problem between FreeBSD-2.2-Stable and DEC-Alpha under Digital Unix. Mounting the NFS-Directory with option nfsv2 "solved" the problem for me. It seems to be a problem of nfsv3 . Werner From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 30 02:09:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA13592 for current-outgoing; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 02:09:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palrel1.hp.com (palrel1.hp.com [156.153.255.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13587 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 02:09:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postbox.india.hp.com (postbox.india.hp.com [15.10.45.1]) by palrel1.hp.com with ESMTP (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA05166 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 02:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199706300909.CAA05166@palrel1.hp.com> Received: from localhost by postbox.india.hp.com with ESMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA195251763; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 14:39:23 +0530 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: DMA beyond end of ISA Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 14:39:23 +0530 From: A Joseph Koshy Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Noticed this today while trying to access st0: sd0 seems to be working fine, but this makes me very nervous. Any clues? Jun 30 15:03:43 krill /kernel: aha0: DMA beyond end Of ISA: 0x1c14d08 Jun 30 15:03:43 krill /kernel: st0: bad request, must be between 0 and 0 Jun 30 15:04:58 krill /kernel: aha0: DMA beyond end Of ISA: 0x10d0d08 Jun 30 15:04:58 krill /kernel: st0: oops not queued Jun 30 15:05:13 krill /kernel: aha0: DMA beyond end Of ISA: 0x1048d08 Jun 30 15:05:14 krill /kernel: st0: oops not queued >From the kernel config file: ... controller aha0 at isa? port "IO_AHA0" bio irq ? drq 5 vector ahaintr controller scbus0 device sd0 device st0 ... options BOUNCE_BUFFERS #include support for DMA bounce buffers -current built on Friday 27th krill# uname -a FreeBSD krill.india.hp.com 3.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Fri Jun 27 20:00: 06 IST 1997 root@krill.india.hp.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/KRILL i386 From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 30 02:13:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA13742 for current-outgoing; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 02:13:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oxmail4.ox.ac.uk (oxmail4.ox.ac.uk [163.1.2.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA13735 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 02:13:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from njl2.materials.ox.ac.uk by oxmail4 with SMTP (PP); Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:13:46 +0100 Received: by njl2.materials.ox.ac.uk (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI) id KAA09249; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:13:45 +0100 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:13:45 +0100 From: neil.long@materials.oxford.ac.uk (Neil J Long) Message-Id: <9706301013.ZM9247@njl2.materials.ox.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: John Polstra "Re: cvsup and handbook" (Jun 29, 11:58am) References: <9706271632.ZM5134@njl2.materials.ox.ac.uk> <199706291858.LAA01286@austin.polstra.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail-SGI (3.2S.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: John Polstra Subject: Re: cvsup and handbook Cc: current@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Jun 29, 11:58am, John Polstra wrote: > Subject: Re: cvsup and handbook > Neil, > > Thanks for the note. > > > Just a note to point out that the handbook refers to cvsup v14.1.1 > > and that the ftp sites only now have 15.0. > > The on-line version of the handbook is up-to-date. I guess you must > be looking at the one from the 2.2.2 CD-ROM. > Hmm, I was using 2.2.2 cvsup'd to date and the last date I had the FAQ and handbook in /usr/src was May 24th. As of Edit src/share/doc/Makefile Add delta 1.9.2.3 97.05.26.16.45.36 jfieber Add delta 1.9.2.4 97.05.26.16.53.23 jfieber Delete src/share/doc/handbook/Makefile ... the handbook and FAQ src's seem to have been removed from the RELENG_2_2 tree for cvsup users. Neil From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 30 03:01:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA15411 for current-outgoing; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 03:01:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com ([140.145.230.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA15399 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 03:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.dk.tfs.com (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03846; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 11:57:24 +0200 (CEST) To: A Joseph Koshy cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: DMA beyond end of ISA In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 30 Jun 1997 14:39:23 +0530." <199706300909.CAA05166@palrel1.hp.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 11:57:24 +0200 Message-ID: <3844.867664644@critter.dk.tfs.com> Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I see the same thing here. Has bounce-buffers ceased to work ? Poul-Henning In message <199706300909.CAA05166@palrel1.hp.com>, A Joseph Koshy writes: > >Noticed this today while trying to access st0: sd0 seems to be working fine, >but this makes me very nervous. Any clues? > >Jun 30 15:03:43 krill /kernel: aha0: DMA beyond end Of ISA: 0x1c14d08 >Jun 30 15:03:43 krill /kernel: st0: bad request, must be between 0 and 0 >Jun 30 15:04:58 krill /kernel: aha0: DMA beyond end Of ISA: 0x10d0d08 >Jun 30 15:04:58 krill /kernel: st0: oops not queued >Jun 30 15:05:13 krill /kernel: aha0: DMA beyond end Of ISA: 0x1048d08 >Jun 30 15:05:14 krill /kernel: st0: oops not queued > >>From the kernel config file: > > ... >controller aha0 at isa? port "IO_AHA0" bio irq ? drq 5 vector ahaintr >controller scbus0 >device sd0 >device st0 > ... >options BOUNCE_BUFFERS #include support for DMA bounce buffer >s > >-current built on Friday 27th > >krill# uname -a >FreeBSD krill.india.hp.com 3.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Fri Jun 27 20:0 >0: >06 IST 1997 root@krill.india.hp.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/KRILL i386 > -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Power and ignorance is a disgusting cocktail. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 30 08:15:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA28940 for current-outgoing; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 08:15:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA28933 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 08:14:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org [127.0.0.1] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.60 #1) id 0wiiA7-0004Kw-00; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:14:43 -0600 To: Conrad Sabatier Subject: Re: finger date problem Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 29 Jun 1997 22:54:03 CDT." References: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:14:43 -0600 From: Warner Losh Message-Id: Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message Conrad Sabatier writes: : I did see some messages about xterm. Anyway, I've been wanting to upgrade : to XFree86 3.3. :-) I know that I lived with the problem for a long time because I knew that I wanted to upgrade to 3.3 when it came out and why grab and recompile something that you'll just recompile again shortly anyway for a personal workstation so finger works? :-) Warner From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 30 09:28:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA02243 for current-outgoing; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02234 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:28:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA18582; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 11:28:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 11:28:10 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Neil J Long cc: John Polstra , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvsup and handbook In-Reply-To: <9706301013.ZM9247@njl2.materials.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Neil J Long wrote: > the handbook and FAQ src's seem to have been removed from the RELENG_2_2 tree > for cvsup users. The handbook and FAQ have moved out of the source tree entirely. Point cvsup at the doc-all collection. -john From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 30 10:49:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA06523 for current-outgoing; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:49:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA06517 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA05499; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:47:09 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199706301747.KAA05499@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: environmental vs environment To: charnier@xp11.frmug.org Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:47:08 -0700 (MST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199706292005.WAA25480@xp11.frmug.org> from "Philippe Charnier" at Jun 29, 97 10:05:56 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Man pages are speaking about environmental variables, other say > environment variables. What is the correct spelling? environment. -- Terry From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 30 17:55:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA26687 for current-outgoing; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 17:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA26679 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 17:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA17422 for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 17:53:59 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199707010053.RAA17422@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: LDAP on -current To: current@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 17:53:59 -3100 (MST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone else tried to run the University of Michigan slapd LDAP 3.3 on -current? It consistently fails the test suite with an error 32 (object not found). This is odd, since there is *specifically* a mention of FreeBSD in the ANNOUNCEMENT file. Is this something which was broken recently? I should note that the Debug code refers to sys_errlist[ xxx] directly, instead of using the ANSI syserror( xxx) function to retrieve the error message, so it's likely that the code has not been seriously tested on FreeBSD in the recent past... Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 30 18:11:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA27523 for current-outgoing; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 18:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cais.cais.com (root@cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA27518 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 18:11:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from earth.mat.net (root@earth.mat.net [205.252.122.1]) by cais.cais.com (8.8.5/) with SMTP id VAA17137; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 21:11:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Journey2.mat.net (journey2.mat.net [205.252.122.116]) by earth.mat.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA05968; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 21:11:01 -0400 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 21:10:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@Journey2.mat.net To: Terry Lambert cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: LDAP on -current In-Reply-To: <199707010053.RAA17422@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Has anyone else tried to run the University of Michigan slapd LDAP > 3.3 on -current? > > It consistently fails the test suite with an error 32 (object not > found). This is odd, since there is *specifically* a mention of > FreeBSD in the ANNOUNCEMENT file. > > Is this something which was broken recently? > > I should note that the Debug code refers to sys_errlist[ xxx] > directly, instead of using the ANSI syserror( xxx) function to > retrieve the error message, so it's likely that the code has > not been seriously tested on FreeBSD in the recent past... > I probably look at more non-kernel software than you do, Terry, and that reference to sys_errlist is really common. Nearly every piece of software that refers to error messages has to be fixed. Just go strolling thru ports, looking at the patches files, you'll see what I mean. > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 30 18:49:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA29828 for current-outgoing; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 18:49:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs.iastate.edu (cs.iastate.edu [129.186.3.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA29822 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 18:49:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from popeye.cs.iastate.edu (popeye.cs.iastate.edu [129.186.3.4]) by cs.iastate.edu (8.8.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA29315 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 20:49:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (ghelmer@localhost) by popeye.cs.iastate.edu (8.8.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id UAA02884 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 20:49:21 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: popeye.cs.iastate.edu: ghelmer owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 20:49:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Guy Helmer To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Basic rebuilding questions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What is the best way to rebuild the binaries and libraries, especially after changes to include files in current? This last week I had to resort to "make world" after the changes to a time structure. "make world" takes 28 hours on my 386/40, so I tend to avoid it if possible :-) BTW, the pace of improvement, especially on ppp, is staggering! Guy Helmer, Computer Science Graduate Student - ghelmer@cs.iastate.edu Iowa State University http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~ghelmer Ames, Iowa, USA 42 01'12"N, 93 40'23"W From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 30 20:02:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA03235 for current-outgoing; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 20:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA03230 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 20:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rover.village.org [127.0.0.1] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.60 #1) id 0witDA-0005JH-00; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 21:02:36 -0600 To: Guy Helmer Subject: Re: Basic rebuilding questions Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 30 Jun 1997 20:49:20 CDT." References: Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 21:02:36 -0600 From: Warner Losh Message-Id: Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message Guy Helmer writes: : What is the best way to rebuild the binaries and libraries, especially : after changes to include files in current? This last week I had to resort : to "make world" after the changes to a time structure. "make world" takes : 28 hours on my 386/40, so I tend to avoid it if possible :-) Hmmm, I cheat: I use a ppro to build a tree, test on the PPro for a while, then do a make reinstall off an NFS mounted partition on my 486. Saves about 10 hours that way. It takes about as long to do the make reinstall on the 486 as it does to do the make world on the PPro! Warner From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 30 23:19:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA11410 for current-outgoing; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 23:19:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from innocence.interface-business.de (innocence.interface-business.de [193.101.57.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA11396 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 23:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by innocence.interface-business.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) with UUCP id IAA25375; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 08:17:27 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA04719; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 07:45:09 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970701074508.NL34989@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 07:45:08 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: ghelmer@cs.iastate.edu (Guy Helmer) Subject: Re: Basic rebuilding questions References: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: ; from Guy Helmer on Jun 30, 1997 20:49:20 -0500 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Guy Helmer wrote: > What is the best way to rebuild the binaries and libraries, especially > after changes to include files in current? Include file updates should be handled fine by the dependencies. Added include files however require to re-run `make depend', which is also a costly operation on a slow machine. Knowing whether include files have been added or not, requires you to closely track the committers list. More complicated updates or moves require manual intervention. I never ran a `make world' back when my machine was a 486/33. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 30 23:54:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA14001 for current-outgoing; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 23:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cais.cais.com (root@cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA13996 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 23:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from earth.mat.net (root@earth.mat.net [205.252.122.1]) by cais.cais.com (8.8.5/) with SMTP id CAA03990; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 02:54:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Journey2.mat.net (journey2.mat.net [205.252.122.116]) by earth.mat.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA03345; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 02:54:15 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 02:53:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@Journey2.mat.net To: Joerg Wunsch cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, Guy Helmer Subject: Re: Basic rebuilding questions In-Reply-To: <19970701074508.NL34989@uriah.heep.sax.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, J Wunsch wrote: > As Guy Helmer wrote: > > > What is the best way to rebuild the binaries and libraries, especially > > after changes to include files in current? > > Include file updates should be handled fine by the dependencies. > Added include files however require to re-run `make depend', which is > also a costly operation on a slow machine. Knowing whether include > files have been added or not, requires you to closely track the > committers list. > > More complicated updates or moves require manual intervention. I > never ran a `make world' back when my machine was a 486/33. Every time I've upgraded a machine to current, I've had it fail when building xinstall. Fix has always been to cd to /usr/src/include and do a make, make install. There were older problems with rpc that were fixed the same way. > > -- > cheers, J"org > > joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE > Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 1 04:53:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA25781 for current-outgoing; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 04:53:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shadows.aeon.net (bsdcur@shadows.aeon.net [194.100.41.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA25775 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 04:53:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bsdcur@localhost) by shadows.aeon.net (8.8.6/8.8.3) id OAA27589 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 14:53:58 +0300 (EET DST) From: mika ruohotie Message-Id: <199707011153.OAA27589@shadows.aeon.net> Subject: Re: osreldate.h HELP I give up In-Reply-To: from Andrzej Bialecki at "Jun 28, 97 07:11:06 pm" To: current@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 14:53:58 +0300 (EET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > i havent been able to complete world in ages coz of the tcl prob, > Strange. I completed "make world" about two weeks ago with none of the > above. I mean, there were no problems at all - I typed "make world" and hmm? cc -O2 -m486 -pipe -I/usr/src/lib/libtcl/../../contrib/tcl/generic -I/usr/src/li b/libtcl/../../contrib/tcl/unix -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TIME_H=1 -DTIME_WIT H_SYS_TIME=1 -DHAVE_TM_ZONE=1 -DHAVE_TM_GMTOFF=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DNEED_MATHERR =1 -DTCL_SHLIB_EXT=\".so\" -DTCL_LIBRARY=\"/usr/libdata/tcl\" -c /usr/src/lib/li btcl/../../contrib/tcl/unix/tclMtherr.c -o tclMtherr.o /usr/src/lib/libtcl/../../contrib/tcl/unix/tclMtherr.c: In function `matherr': /usr/src/lib/libtcl/../../contrib/tcl/unix/tclMtherr.c:80: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lib/libtcl/../../contrib/tcl/unix/tclMtherr.c:80: `DOMAIN' undeclared ( first use this function) /usr/src/lib/libtcl/../../contrib/tcl/unix/tclMtherr.c:80: (Each undeclared iden tifier is reported only once /usr/src/lib/libtcl/../../contrib/tcl/unix/tclMtherr.c:80: for each function it appears in.) /usr/src/lib/libtcl/../../contrib/tcl/unix/tclMtherr.c:80: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lib/libtcl/../../contrib/tcl/unix/tclMtherr.c:80: `SING' undeclared (fi rst use this function) ...skipping... *** Error code 1 (continuing) and cc -fpic -DPIC -O2 -m486 -pipe -I/usr/src/lib/libtcl/../../contrib/tcl/generic - I/usr/src/lib/libtcl/../../contrib/tcl/unix -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TIME_H= 1 -DTIME_WITH_SYS_TIME=1 -DHAVE_TM_ZONE=1 -DHAVE_TM_GMTOFF=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -D NEED_MATHERR=1 -DTCL_SHLIB_EXT=\".so\" -DTCL_LIBRARY=\"/usr/libdata/tcl\" -c /us r/src/lib/libtcl/../../contrib/tcl/unix/tclMtherr.c -o tclMtherr.so /usr/src/lib/libtcl/../../contrib/tcl/unix/tclMtherr.c: In function `matherr': /usr/src/lib/libtcl/../../contrib/tcl/unix/tclMtherr.c:80: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lib/libtcl/../../contrib/tcl/unix/tclMtherr.c:80: `DOMAIN' undeclared ( first use this function) /usr/src/lib/libtcl/../../contrib/tcl/unix/tclMtherr.c:80: (Each undeclared iden tifier is reported only once /usr/src/lib/libtcl/../../contrib/tcl/unix/tclMtherr.c:80: for each function it appears in.) /usr/src/lib/libtcl/../../contrib/tcl/unix/tclMtherr.c:80: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/lib/libtcl/../../contrib/tcl/unix/tclMtherr.c:80: `SING' undeclared (fi rst use this function) *** Error code 1 (continuing) and install: libtcl.a: No such file or directory *** Error code 71 (continuing) `install' not remade because of errors. (and then the same 3 again) i dunno if those would kill the make world or not... but these i've gotten for ages now... (i log my make worlds) anyone with the same? (back in feb it was "common" i think) during the time i've gotten these i've nuked my /usr/src at least twice, for another reasons, and made a complite re_cvsup... mickey From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 1 05:46:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA27984 for current-outgoing; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 05:46:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.warman.org.pl [148.81.160.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA27976 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 05:46:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA02141; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 14:45:41 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 14:45:41 +0200 (MET DST) From: Andrzej Bialecki To: mika ruohotie cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: osreldate.h HELP I give up In-Reply-To: <199707011153.OAA27589@shadows.aeon.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, mika ruohotie wrote: > > > i havent been able to complete world in ages coz of the tcl prob, > > Strange. I completed "make world" about two weeks ago with none of the > > above. I mean, there were no problems at all - I typed "make world" and > > hmm? [errors msgs deleted] There's some mystery in it (perhaps stale dependencies lurking around). You see, I also log my "make world"s, and here's what I got with -current as of two days ago: make world -DNOGAMES -DNOPROFILE 2>&1 |tee world.out -------------------------------------------------------------- make world started on Tue Jul 1 07:54:17 CEST 1997 -------------------------------------------------------------- [.......] -------------------------------------------------------------- Rebuilding man page indexes -------------------------------------------------------------- cd /usr/src/share/man && make makedb makewhatis /usr/share/man -------------------------------------------------------------- make world completed on Tue Jul 1 12:15:35 CEST 1997 -------------------------------------------------------------- There were no errors, repeat: NO ERRORS of any kind. Ah, I should mention that I am used to doing cd /usr/src/include && make all install first. Maybe that's what's bogging you. Especially "incomplete type" things suggest wrong #include or header files. > > i dunno if those would kill the make world or not... but these i've gotten > for ages now... (i log my make worlds) As you notice, I didn't use the -k, so this would surely kill it. > during the time i've gotten these i've nuked my /usr/src at least twice, for > another reasons, and made a complite re_cvsup... Perhaps you should nuke the whole /usr/obj as well... Sincerely yours, --- Andrzej Bialecki FreeBSD: Turning PCs Into Workstations http://www.freebsd.org Research and Academic Network in Poland From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 1 09:25:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA06938 for current-outgoing; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 09:25:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA06933 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 09:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA18475; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 09:23:00 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199707011623.JAA18475@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: LDAP on -current To: chuckr@glue.umd.edu (Chuck Robey) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 09:22:59 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Chuck Robey" at Jun 30, 97 09:10:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Has anyone else tried to run the University of Michigan slapd LDAP > > 3.3 on -current? > > > > It consistently fails the test suite with an error 32 (object not > > found). This is odd, since there is *specifically* a mention of > > FreeBSD in the ANNOUNCEMENT file. > > > > Is this something which was broken recently? > > > > I should note that the Debug code refers to sys_errlist[ xxx] > > directly, instead of using the ANSI syserror( xxx) function to > > retrieve the error message, so it's likely that the code has > > not been seriously tested on FreeBSD in the recent past... > > > > I probably look at more non-kernel software than you do, Terry, and that > reference to sys_errlist is really common. Nearly every piece of software > that refers to error messages has to be fixed. Just go strolling thru > ports, looking at the patches files, you'll see what I mean. Oh, I fixed it; it's just that it still fails the test suite. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 1 15:17:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA25693 for current-outgoing; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 15:17:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.neosoft.com (as5200-port-254.no.neosoft.com [206.27.167.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA25682 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 15:17:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by localhost.neosoft.com (8.8.6/8.8.5) id RAA24833 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 17:17:27 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 17:10:36 -0500 (CDT) Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. From: Conrad Sabatier To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Basic rebuilding questions Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 01-Jul-97 Guy Helmer wrote: >What is the best way to rebuild the binaries and libraries, especially >after changes to include files in current? This last week I had to resort >to "make world" after the changes to a time structure. "make world" takes >28 hours on my 386/40, so I tend to avoid it if possible :-) Well, as one who recently found out the hard way (and rather embarrassingly as well, but that's another story) that certain shortcuts just don't work, I'm sticking with "make world" and/or "make update" for now. But then, my machine's a P166, and it only takes about seven hours or so (*only*, he says!). :-) >BTW, the pace of improvement, especially on ppp, is staggering! Indeed it is. I do a cron-based cvsup nightly now, make world before I leave for work in the morning and it's finished when I get home in the afternoon. All of my recent builds have been successful, by the way. No problems at all in the make. -- Conrad Sabatier http://www.neosoft.com/~conrads/ From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 1 15:58:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA28283 for current-outgoing; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 15:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA28273 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 15:58:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA05255 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 15:57:08 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199707012257.PAA05255@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: LDAP update To: current@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 15:57:08 -0700 (MST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well, I have narrowed the LDAP problem down to a bad interaction with the ndbm code. When compiled to use ndbm, an explicit flush prior to a the close fails to write the data aout to the database files. The failing flush occurs in the ldif2ldbm program when it is attempting to inialize the database, and results in zero length database files. The subsequent LDAP lookups over the wire fail to obtain the requested data. I went to the BSD btree code, and the problem went away. I also went tot he BSD hash code, and the problem also went away. So there is a bug in ndbm, but I don't have it pegged any closer than that. The LDAP server is at: ftp://terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu/ldap/ldap.tar.Z if the current ndbm maintainer is interested in tracking down the problem. Use the .ps or .pdf "slapd guide", section 2 "A Quick-Start Guide to Running slapd", pages 10 and 11. In step 7 "Create a database", add the parameter "-d 65535" to get debug information about the database creation. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 1 16:19:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA29539 for current-outgoing; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 16:19:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.neosoft.com (as5200-port-254.no.neosoft.com [206.27.167.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29534 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 16:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by localhost.neosoft.com (8.8.6/8.8.5) id SAA00297 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 18:19:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 18:04:20 -0500 (CDT) Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. From: Conrad Sabatier To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: CD-ROM mount problem Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Running 3.0 (supped on 6/30). Mounting the CD-ROM gives the error: # mount /cdrom cd9660: Invalid argument Oddly, sysinstall mounts it OK. I have options "CD9660" in my kernel config, and have rebuilt the kernel after doing make world. Here's the relevant section in my config (IDE CD-ROM is master on wdc1, and is the only device on wdc1, in fact; should I comment out wd2 and wd3, perhaps?): controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus options ATAPI_STATIC #Don't do it as an LKM device wcd0 #IDE CD-ROM My /etc/fstab: # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/wd1s1b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/wd1a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/wd1s1f /usr ufs rw 1 1 /dev/wd1s1e /var ufs rw 1 1 proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 /dev/wcd0c /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 Any clues, anyone? -- Conrad Sabatier http://www.neosoft.com/~conrads/ From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 1 16:49:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA00826 for current-outgoing; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 16:49:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.uniserve.com (tom@shell.uniserve.com [204.244.210.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00821 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 16:49:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (tom@localhost) by shell.uniserve.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA28474; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 16:45:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell.uniserve.com: tom owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 16:45:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom To: Terry Lambert cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: LDAP update In-Reply-To: <199707012257.PAA05255@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Well, I have narrowed the LDAP problem down to a bad interaction > with the ndbm code. > > When compiled to use ndbm, an explicit flush prior to a the close > fails to write the data aout to the database files. > > The failing flush occurs in the ldif2ldbm program when it is > attempting to inialize the database, and results in zero length > database files. > > The subsequent LDAP lookups over the wire fail to obtain the > requested data. > > I went to the BSD btree code, and the problem went away. I > also went tot he BSD hash code, and the problem also went away. > > So there is a bug in ndbm, but I don't have it pegged any closer > than that. > > The LDAP server is at: > > ftp://terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu/ldap/ldap.tar.Z > > if the current ndbm maintainer is interested in tracking down > the problem. > > Use the .ps or .pdf "slapd guide", section 2 "A Quick-Start Guide > to Running slapd", pages 10 and 11. In step 7 "Create a database", > add the parameter "-d 65535" to get debug information about the > database creation. > > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. > FreeBSD doesn't have a ndbm. It just a ndbm compatibility module that goes over db (using hash type, I believe). Tom From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jul 1 22:51:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA15558 for current-outgoing; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 22:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA15553 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 22:51:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id HAA22724 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 07:51:50 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA09136; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 07:46:29 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970702074628.GO10439@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 07:46:28 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CD-ROM mount problem References: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: ; from Conrad Sabatier on Jul 1, 1997 18:04:20 -0500 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Conrad Sabatier wrote: > Running 3.0 (supped on 6/30). Mounting the CD-ROM gives the error: > > # mount /cdrom > cd9660: Invalid argument For all CDs, or just for one? -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 2 00:58:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA20375 for current-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 00:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cenotaph.snafu.de (gw-deadnet.snafu.de [194.121.229.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA20368 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 00:58:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by cenotaph.snafu.de from deadline.snafu.de using smtp id m0wjKIT-000KA2C; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 09:57:53 +0200 (CEST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1) Received: by deadline.snafu.de id m0wjKIS-000433C; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 09:57:52 +0200 (CEST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 09:57:52 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: knews 0.9.8 References: In-Reply-To: From: mickey@deadline.snafu.de (Andreas S. Wetzel) Subject: Re: NFS-related process hangs in -current X-Original-Newsgroups: lists.freebsd-current To: current@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! --- In article , Charlie & writes: > On Sun, Jun 29, 1997 at 11:22:39AM -0700, John Polstra wrote: >> I updated my -current box on Friday night, and since then I've been >> seeing some process hangs that seem to be related to NFS. This is >> with -current CVSupped around 20:50 PDT on June 27 (full make world >> plus kernel build). >> >> The problem shows up when I try to build the modula-3-lib port on a >> filesystem that is NFS-mounted from another system. The NFS server >> is running 2.2-stable. At some point in the build, the "quake" >> program (M3's answer to "make", *sigh*) hangs in disk wait state. >> It is unkillable after that -- the only way to get rid of it is by >> rebooting. Other processes continue to work OK. >> >> Interestingly, I tried it twice and it hung at the same point both >> times. Each test takes a long time, so I only have those two data >> points so far. >> >> I built the same port on a local filesystem without any problems. >> >> Does this ring a bell for anybody? I haven't tried building this >> port via NFS for quite a while, so the problem is not necessarily >> very new. >> > > Have the same problem between FreeBSD-2.2-Stable and DEC-Alpha under > Digital Unix. > Mounting the NFS-Directory with option nfsv2 "solved" the problem for me. > It seems to be a problem of nfsv3 . I am having the same problems for quite a while with an NFS mounted /usr/port tree on my FreeBSD SMP machine (dated 09. Feb 97). Everytime I try to compile things off /usr/ports that require some work to be done, the NFS client side hangs. When this has happened, commands like 'df' etc also lock up completely so that they cannot be terminated. Only solution is rebooting the client machine completely. The same thing also happened quite some times while trying to mv files from a local disk to an NFS mounted volume. The NFS server machine (FreeBSD of same date as above SMP system but UP machine) does not seem to suffer from that hangs in any way. Regards, Mickey -- (__) (@@) Andreas S. Wetzel Mail: mickey@deadline.snafu.de /-------\/ Utrechter Strasse 41 Web: http://cenotaph.snafu.de/mickey/ / | || 13347 Berlin Fon: <+4930> 456 066 90 * ||----|| Germany Fax: <+4930> 456 066 91/92 ~~ ~~ From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 2 04:50:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA29705 for current-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 04:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.neosoft.com (as5200-port-254.no.neosoft.com [206.27.167.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA29700 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 04:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by localhost.neosoft.com (8.8.6/8.8.5) id GAA01581 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 06:50:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19970702074628.GO10439@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 06:44:34 -0500 (CDT) Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. From: Conrad Sabatier To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CD-ROM mount problem Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 02-Jul-97 J Wunsch wrote: >As Conrad Sabatier wrote: > >> Running 3.0 (supped on 6/30). Mounting the CD-ROM gives the error: >> >> # mount /cdrom >> cd9660: Invalid argument > >For all CDs, or just for one? I only have one CD-ROM drive (ATAPI). I get the same error with both of the FreeBSD 2.2.2 disks. This never happened before, until a few days ago. And like I said, sysinstall is still able to mount the disk. Weird. Anywhere else I might look (other than my kernel config and /etc/fstab)? I checked the /dev entries, too. They seem to be OK. By the way, what is wcd0a? # cd /dev # ls -l *wcd* crw-r----- 1 root operator 69, 0 Jul 1 17:59 rwcd0a crw-r----- 1 root operator 69, 2 Jul 1 17:59 rwcd0c brw-r----- 1 root operator 19, 0 Jul 1 17:59 wcd0a brw-r----- 1 root operator 19, 2 Jul 1 17:59 wcd0c -- Conrad Sabatier http://www.neosoft.com/~conrads/ From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 2 06:26:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA03609 for current-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 06:26:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (ache.relcom.ru [194.58.229.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA03604; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 06:26:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.8.6/8.8.5) id RAA01183; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 17:26:06 +0400 (MSD) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 17:26:04 +0400 (MSD) From: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= To: jdp@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-current cc: Mark Huizer Subject: CVSUP and CVS branches: bug? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From recent cvsup I got: Checkout src/sbin/disklabel/disklabel.5.5 Checkout src/sys/net/ppp_deflate.c Checkout src/sys/net/zlib.c I think this files comes from separate branch which not supposed to be active yet. Where is the bug? -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 2 07:04:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA06012 for current-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 07:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA05991 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 07:04:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA03884; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 09:04:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 09:04:01 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Conrad Sabatier cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CD-ROM mount problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Conrad Sabatier wrote: > > On 02-Jul-97 J Wunsch wrote: > >As Conrad Sabatier wrote: > > > >> Running 3.0 (supped on 6/30). Mounting the CD-ROM gives the error: > >> > >> # mount /cdrom > >> cd9660: Invalid argument > > > >For all CDs, or just for one? > > I only have one CD-ROM drive (ATAPI). I get the same error with both of > the FreeBSD 2.2.2 disks. > > This never happened before, until a few days ago. And like I said, > sysinstall is still able to mount the disk. Weird. I was fiddling with cdd (reads audio tracks from CDs) and after running it, I get the above error. After I reboot, everything is fine. Could you be running something that is fiddling with the SCSI system? -john From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 2 08:05:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA09147 for current-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 08:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pahtoh.cwu.edu (root@pahtoh.cwu.edu [198.104.65.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09142; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 08:05:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from opus.cts.cwu.edu (skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu [198.104.92.71]) by pahtoh.cwu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA13675; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 08:04:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (skynyrd@localhost) by opus.cts.cwu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11277; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 08:04:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 08:04:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Timmons To: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= cc: jdp@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-current , Mark Huizer Subject: Re: CVSUP and CVS branches: bug? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From my recent CVSup update of the local CVS repository: Edit src/sbin/disklabel/disklabel.5.5,v -> Attic Add tag bsd_44_lite_2 -> 1.1.1.3 Add delta 1.1.1.3 97.07.02.00.24.14 bde So I think perhaps some files just got misplaced by humans and CVSup propogated them normally. -Chris On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, [KOI8-R] Андрей Чернов wrote: > >From recent cvsup I got: > > Checkout src/sbin/disklabel/disklabel.5.5 > Checkout src/sys/net/ppp_deflate.c > Checkout src/sys/net/zlib.c > > I think this files comes from separate branch which not supposed > to be active yet. Where is the bug? > > -- > Andrey A. Chernov > > http://www.nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ > From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 2 09:41:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA13563 for current-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 09:41:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shadows.aeon.net (bsdcur@shadows.aeon.net [194.100.41.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13558 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 09:41:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bsdcur@localhost) by shadows.aeon.net (8.8.6/8.8.3) id TAA28984; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 19:40:48 +0300 (EET DST) From: mika ruohotie Message-Id: <199707021640.TAA28984@shadows.aeon.net> Subject: Re: TCL library compile errors In-Reply-To: from Rick Lotoczky at "Jul 1, 97 09:48:20 am" To: rickl@ic.net Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 19:40:47 +0300 (EET DST) Cc: current@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi Mika, > compile time errors in the tcl library BY NOT USING the CSRG math library. > DO NOT UNCOMMENT the below listed entry: > # To compile and install the 4.4 lite libm instead of the default use: > #WANT_CSRG_LIBM= yes > This seemed to solve the problem for me. I did not investigate any further > than noticing the pesky thanx for the tip, will make world today to see if it works... =) mickey From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 2 11:12:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA17626 for current-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 11:12:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17590; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 11:11:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.5/8.6.9) id EAA10866; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 04:09:34 +1000 Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 04:09:34 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199707021809.EAA10866@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: ache@nagual.pp.ru, skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu Subject: Re: CVSUP and CVS branches: bug? Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, jdp@FreeBSD.ORG, xaa@stack.nl Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>From my recent CVSup update of the local CVS repository: > >Edit src/sbin/disklabel/disklabel.5.5,v -> Attic > Add tag bsd_44_lite_2 -> 1.1.1.3 > Add delta 1.1.1.3 97.07.02.00.24.14 bde > >So I think perhaps some files just got misplaced by humans and CVSup >propogated them normally. It's just part of 4.4Lite[2] that we renamed. CVS and human handling of renaming sucks, and we're left with disklabel.5.5 on the vendor branch in the attic and a spontaneously created disklabel.5 disconnected from the vendor branch and its own history. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 2 17:05:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA02533 for current-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 17:05:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02498; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 17:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from meter.eng.uci.edu (root@meter.eng.uci.edu [128.200.85.3]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA15146; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 17:04:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from newport.ece.uci.edu by meter.eng.uci.edu (8.8.5) id RAA11375; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 17:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by newport.ece.uci.edu (8.8.5) id RAA04034; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 17:02:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707030002.RAA04034@newport.ece.uci.edu> To: current@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: PCI-ISA bridge & sio ports Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 17:02:15 -0700 From: Steven Wallace Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I got a new Iwill P55XUW motherboard with the Intel Triton 430TX chipset. The built-in serial ports are not working under FreeBSD, although they work under Windows 95. When the system boots and displays the system configuration, it displays the port of all three serial ports correctly, but when FreeBSD boots, it does not recognize sio0 or sio1 (built-in) but only sio2 (an ISA card). I thought the problem might be because FreeBSD does not recognize by name the 430TX chipset. Does bsd have to activate these built-in ports or is this completely a BIOS problem? (and why is it okay under DOS?) Here is a partial probe list: Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0 rev 1 on pci0:0 chip1 rev 1 on pci0:7:0 pci0:7:1: Intel Corporation, device=0x7111, class=storage (ide) [no driver assigned] pci0:7:2: Intel Corporation, device=0x7112, class=0x0c, subclass=0x03 int d irq 15 [no driver assigned] chip2 rev 1 on pci0:7:3 sio0 not found at 0x3f8 sio1 not found at 0x2f8 sio2 at 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 5 on isa [ISA modem card] From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 2 17:16:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA03191 for current-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 17:16:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03184; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 17:16:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id RAA27274; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 17:14:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bubba.whistle.com(207.76.205.7) by whistle.com via smap (V1.3) id sma027272; Wed Jul 2 17:14:08 1997 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) id RAA29620; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 17:14:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199707030014.RAA29620@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: CVSUP and CVS branches: bug? In-Reply-To: <199707021809.EAA10866@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from Bruce Evans at "Jul 3, 97 04:09:34 am" To: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 17:14:08 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ache@nagual.pp.ru, skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu, current@FreeBSD.ORG, jdp@FreeBSD.ORG, xaa@stack.nl X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >Edit src/sbin/disklabel/disklabel.5.5,v -> Attic > > Add tag bsd_44_lite_2 -> 1.1.1.3 > > Add delta 1.1.1.3 97.07.02.00.24.14 bde > > > >So I think perhaps some files just got misplaced by humans and CVSup > >propogated them normally. > > It's just part of 4.4Lite[2] that we renamed. CVS and human handling of > renaming sucks, and we're left with disklabel.5.5 on the vendor branch > in the attic and a spontaneously created disklabel.5 disconnected from > the vendor branch and its own history. Half-serious suggestion... why not ask Perforce if they would like to "donate" their source management system for FreeBSD's non-commercial use? Not likely, but anyway here's a ref to it: http://www.perforce.com/perforce/index.html It addresses most if not all of the many problems that CVS has. -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 2 18:42:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA06927 for current-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 18:42:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA06922 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 18:42:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA24039; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 21:42:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 21:42:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <199707030142.VAA24039@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Archie Cobbs Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CVSUP and CVS branches: bug? In-Reply-To: <199707030014.RAA29620@bubba.whistle.com> References: <199707021809.EAA10866@godzilla.zeta.org.au> <199707030014.RAA29620@bubba.whistle.com> Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > Half-serious suggestion... why not ask Perforce if they would like > to "donate" their source management system for FreeBSD's non-commercial > use? They have, in fact, agreed to do so, but many of us are unwilling to put our source tree in the hands of software we do not control nor have and distribute the source code for. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 2 19:09:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA08832 for current-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 19:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (ache.relcom.ru [194.58.229.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA08815 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 19:09:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.8.6/8.8.5) id GAA00291; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 06:08:58 +0400 (MSD) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 06:08:54 +0400 (MSD) From: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= To: FreeBSD-current , Brian Somers cc: Chuck Robey , Joerg Wunsch Subject: Re: ppp & HUP. In-Reply-To: <199707022132.WAA07880@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Brian Somers wrote: > > > reboot(8) will send SIGTERMs to the processes, but not SIGHUPs. > > death() in init.c :( I start thinking that sending HUP from init is a bug because: 1) It increase disk activity just before shutdown since all daemons re-read their configs. 2) It cause redials for redial-able software as uucp (and ppp some time ago). If nobody will explain why this HUP is neded (hanging shells perfectly killed by SIGKILL), I'll remove HUP sending from init. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 2 19:10:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA09019 for current-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 19:10:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA08952; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 19:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA17256; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 19:08:33 -0700 (PDT) To: Archie Cobbs cc: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans), ache@nagual.pp.ru, skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu, current@FreeBSD.ORG, jdp@FreeBSD.ORG, xaa@stack.nl Subject: Re: CVSUP and CVS branches: bug? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 02 Jul 1997 17:14:08 PDT." <199707030014.RAA29620@bubba.whistle.com> Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 19:08:33 -0700 Message-ID: <17252.867895713@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Half-serious suggestion... why not ask Perforce if they would like > to "donate" their source management system for FreeBSD's non-commercial > use? Not likely, but anyway here's a ref to it: They've already offered us the server for $1 on freefall and an unlimited number of clients, for whomever wants to use the repository maintained there. Any other group using FreeBSD non-profit also gets the same $1/server deal, so they can run their own repositories. Our CVSmeister personally likes perforce. Truly, the barriers here are not technical or financial, they're political. :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 2 20:00:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA14782 for current-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 20:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cais.cais.com (root@cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA14730 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 19:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from earth.mat.net (root@earth.mat.net [205.252.122.1]) by cais.cais.com (8.8.5/) with SMTP id WAA03326; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 22:59:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Journey2.mat.net (journey2.mat.net [205.252.122.116]) by earth.mat.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA09644; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 22:59:30 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 22:59:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@Journey2.mat.net To: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= cc: FreeBSD-current , Brian Somers , Joerg Wunsch Subject: Re: ppp & HUP. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id UAA14733 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, [KOI8-R] Андрей Чернов wrote: > On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Brian Somers wrote: > > > > > reboot(8) will send SIGTERMs to the processes, but not SIGHUPs. > > > > death() in init.c :( > > I start thinking that sending HUP from init is a bug because: > 1) It increase disk activity just before shutdown since all daemons > re-read their configs. > 2) It cause redials for redial-able software as uucp (and ppp some time > ago). > > If nobody will explain why this HUP is neded (hanging shells perfectly > killed by SIGKILL), I'll remove HUP sending from init. According to what I read, the HUP was to allow processes to be able to exit gracefully (and more slowly, perhaps saving state) than the SIGTERM. I think the HUP is kinda historical. I can't see a strong reason to kill it, because I've never personally seen a bug caused by it. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 2 20:00:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA14807 for current-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 20:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA14802 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 20:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA03563; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 19:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd003560; Thu Jul 3 02:56:06 1997 Message-ID: <33BB1473.33590565@whistle.com> Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 19:54:43 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Organization: Whistle Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= CC: FreeBSD-current , Brian Somers , Chuck Robey , Joerg Wunsch Subject: Re: ppp & HUP. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= wrote: > > On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Brian Somers wrote: > > > > > reboot(8) will send SIGTERMs to the processes, but not SIGHUPs. > > > > death() in init.c :( > > I start thinking that sending HUP from init is a bug because: > 1) It increase disk activity just before shutdown since all daemons > re-read their configs. > 2) It cause redials for redial-able software as uucp (and ppp some time > ago). > > If nobody will explain why this HUP is neded (hanging shells perfectly > killed by SIGKILL), I'll remove HUP sending from init. > I have processes that close down assuming they have 5 or 6 seconds to do so when they receive HUP. it's traditional. I don't like changing such traditions.. From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 2 20:06:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA15031 for current-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 20:06:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA15023 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 20:06:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.5/8.6.9) id NAA26921; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 13:02:24 +1000 Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 13:02:24 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199707030302.NAA26921@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: ache@nagual.pp.ru, brian@awfulhak.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ppp & HUP. Cc: chuckr@Glue.umd.edu, joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >If nobody will explain why this HUP is neded (hanging shells perfectly >killed by SIGKILL), I'll remove HUP sending from init. SIGHUP may have been to allow shells to propagate SIGHUP to children. There may still be some problems here for parts of the process tree not killed by the death of the controlling process. Perhaps shells do a more complete job of propagating the SIGHUP? Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 2 20:06:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA15043 for current-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 20:06:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.uniserve.com (tom@shell.uniserve.com [204.244.210.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA15029; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 20:06:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (tom@localhost) by shell.uniserve.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA06451; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 20:02:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell.uniserve.com: tom owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 20:02:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Archie Cobbs , Bruce Evans , ache@nagual.pp.ru, skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu, current@FreeBSD.ORG, jdp@FreeBSD.ORG, xaa@stack.nl Subject: Re: CVSUP and CVS branches: bug? In-Reply-To: <17252.867895713@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Half-serious suggestion... why not ask Perforce if they would like > > to "donate" their source management system for FreeBSD's non-commercial > > use? Not likely, but anyway here's a ref to it: > > They've already offered us the server for $1 on freefall and an > unlimited number of clients, for whomever wants to use the repository > maintained there. Any other group using FreeBSD non-profit also gets > the same $1/server deal, so they can run their own repositories. > Our CVSmeister personally likes perforce. > > Truly, the barriers here are not technical or financial, they're > political. :-) > > Jordan Except the license seems to deny not only commerical use or perforce (not a big deal, when working on free software), but to any commercial organiation. So if I want to use perforce to maintain some patches (for example long user-names in 2.2-stable), I can't. However, the eval version may be suitable for that kind of thing... Tom From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 2 21:43:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA18480 for current-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 21:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA18475 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 21:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA29209; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 22:42:21 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 22:42:21 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199707030442.WAA29209@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= Cc: FreeBSD-current , Brian Somers , Chuck Robey , Joerg Wunsch Subject: Re: ppp & HUP. In-Reply-To: References: <199707022132.WAA07880@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > If nobody will explain why this HUP is neded (hanging shells perfectly > killed by SIGKILL), I'll remove HUP sending from init. Because it gives processes a chance to die 'nicely', instead of having the run pulled out from under them. Nate From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 2 21:46:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA18625 for current-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 21:46:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA18620 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 21:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA29217; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 22:45:51 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 22:45:51 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199707030445.WAA29217@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSUP and CVS branches: bug? In-Reply-To: <17252.867895713@time.cdrom.com> References: <199707030014.RAA29620@bubba.whistle.com> <17252.867895713@time.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > > Half-serious suggestion... why not ask Perforce if they would like > > to "donate" their source management system for FreeBSD's non-commercial > > use? Not likely, but anyway here's a ref to it: > > They've already offered us the server for $1 on freefall and an > unlimited number of clients, for whomever wants to use the repository > maintained there. Any other group using FreeBSD non-profit also gets > the same $1/server deal, so they can run their own repositories. > Our CVSmeister personally likes perforce. > > Truly, the barriers here are not technical or financial, they're > political. :-) I disagree. There are many 'technical' features that CVS gives us that aren't available in Perforce, or are done in a much different fashion. That, and the documentation is pretty non-existant. When I reviewed/evaluated Perforce for work, the lack of decent documentation was my final sticking point, and even the developers agreed that it needed work. (Though, they were real good about providing specific answers to specific questions I had regarding the product, but that doesn't work well with a bunch of developers who are fairly naive when it comes to SCM's). That was last Fall, so things may have changed since then. Nate From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 2 22:04:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA19366 for current-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 22:04:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (ala-ca13-14.ix.netcom.com [204.32.168.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA19357 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 22:04:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.6/8.6.9) id WAA00942; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 22:04:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 22:04:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707030504.WAA00942@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: unreadable files on photo CD From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi folks, We've been working on a huge number (like 800) of CDs that hold many images. There are about 100 images per CD. The pictures are in "photo CD" format (by the way, does anyone know if there is a free tool to view them?...I know only of Adobe PhotoShop and PhotoDeluxe). Each file is about 4 to 5 megabytes. However, there are about a dozen CDs that we can't read all the images off. For instance: === ## ls -sa /cdrom/photo_cd/images/ total 166304 4 . 4954 img0012.pcd 4632 img0025.pcd 2 .. 4908 img0013.pcd 4666 img0026.pcd 4714 img0001.pcd 4916 img0014.pcd 4444 img0027.pcd 4724 img0002.pcd 4834 img0015.pcd 4694 img0028.pcd 4796 img0003.pcd 4760 img0016.pcd 4582 img0029.pcd 4980 img0004.pcd 4750 img0017.pcd 4606 img0030.pcd 5182 img0005.pcd 4822 img0018.pcd 4558 img0031.pcd 5520 img0006.pcd 4492 img0019.pcd 4516 img0032.pcd 4880 img0007.pcd 4426 img0020.pcd 4516 img0033.pcd 4648 img0008.pcd 4524 img0021.pcd 4502 img0034.pcd 5248 img0009.pcd 4406 img0022.pcd 4594 img0035.pcd 5266 img0010.pcd 4456 img0023.pcd 5192 img0011.pcd 4590 img0024.pcd === There is supposed to be 101 images on this CD. Win95 can read them all (duh). Looking at the directory: === ## od -c /cdrom/photo_cd/images 0000000 0 \0 032 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 032 \0 020 \0 \0 \0 \0 0000020 020 \0 ` \f 027 021 . 033 340 002 \0 \0 001 \0 \0 001 0000040 001 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 215 U X A \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 0000060 0 \0 030 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 030 \0 \b \0 \0 \0 \0 0000100 \b \0 ` \f 027 021 . 033 340 002 \0 \0 001 \0 \0 001 0000120 001 001 \0 \0 \0 \0 215 U X A \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 0000140 J \0 j 002 \0 \0 \0 \0 002 j \0 250 I \0 \0 I 0000160 250 \0 ` \f 027 021 . 033 340 \0 \0 \0 001 \0 \0 001 0000200 \r I M G 0 0 0 1 . P C D ; 1 \0 \0 0000220 \0 \0 \t 021 X A 006 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 A A 016 002 : 0005060 C D ; 1 \0 \0 \0 \0 \t 021 X A 006 \0 \0 \0 0005100 \0 \0 A A 016 002 P C D I P C D v \0 \0 0005120 J \0 V H 001 \0 \0 001 H V \0 310 G \0 \0 G 0005140 310 \0 ` \f 027 021 . 033 340 \0 \0 \0 001 \0 \0 001 0005160 \r I M G 0 0 3 5 . P C D ; 1 \0 \0 0005200 \0 \0 \t 021 X A 006 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 A A 016 002 0005220 P C D I P C D v \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 0005240 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 \0 * 0010000 === It seems the second half of the directory appears to be all zero to FreeBSD. This is on 2.2-stable (from about a day ago). The SCSI adapters I tried are Adaptec 2940UW and a no-name NCR 53c825. The CD-ROM drives are Toshiba XM-3801TA and XM-5301TA. Does anyone know what could be the problem? Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 2 22:30:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA20523 for current-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 22:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.plutotech.com (root@[206.168.67.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA20518 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 22:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by pluto.plutotech.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA02164; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 23:28:46 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199707030528.XAA02164@pluto.plutotech.com> To: Nate Williams cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CVSUP and CVS branches: bug? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 02 Jul 1997 22:45:51 MDT." <199707030445.WAA29217@rocky.mt.sri.com> Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 23:28:46 -0600 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I disagree. There are many 'technical' features that CVS gives us that >aren't available in Perforce, or are done in a much different fashion. >That, and the documentation is pretty non-existant. When I >reviewed/evaluated Perforce for work, the lack of decent documentation >was my final sticking point, and even the developers agreed that it >needed work. (Though, they were real good about providing specific >answers to specific questions I had regarding the product, but that >doesn't work well with a bunch of developers who are fairly naive when >it comes to SCM's). > >That was last Fall, so things may have changed since then. There is a 100+ page manual now that is very well written. We've been using Perforce at Pluto since February and I wouldn't even think for a moment about going back to CVS. >Nate > -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 2 22:51:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA21470 for current-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 22:51:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA21464 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 22:51:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id HAA07314 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 07:51:17 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA13090; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 06:58:08 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970703065808.DU65077@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 06:58:08 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CD-ROM mount problem References: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: ; from John Fieber on Jul 2, 1997 09:04:01 -0500 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As John Fieber wrote: > > I only have one CD-ROM drive (ATAPI). > I was fiddling with cdd (reads audio tracks from CDs) and after > running it, I get the above error. After I reboot, everything is cdd is probably turning your drive into 2352 byte mode. > fine. Could you be running something that is fiddling with the > SCSI system? Hard to believe for an ATAPI CD. :) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 2 22:52:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA21535 for current-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 22:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA21530 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 22:52:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id HAA07333 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 07:52:20 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA13275; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 07:43:08 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970703074308.ML07825@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 07:43:08 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ppp & HUP. References: <199707030302.NAA26921@godzilla.zeta.org.au> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199707030302.NAA26921@godzilla.zeta.org.au>; from Bruce Evans on Jul 3, 1997 13:02:24 +1000 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Bruce Evans wrote: > >If nobody will explain why this HUP is neded (hanging shells perfectly > >killed by SIGKILL), I'll remove HUP sending from init. > > SIGHUP may have been to allow shells to propagate SIGHUP to children. > There may still be some problems here for parts of the process tree > not killed by the death of the controlling process. Perhaps shells > do a more complete job of propagating the SIGHUP? SIGHUP should be sent to all process groups associated with tty lines. clean_ttys() does this. So i think we should remove the SIGHUP salute that's being sent in death(), and replace it with a call to clean_ttys(). This will gracefully log off all tty-line associated process groups, without blatantly reconfiguring all daemons. Alternatively, the loop in death() should examine whether the process is in the list of active tty line process group leaders, and only SIGHUP them. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 2 23:01:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA21948 for current-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 23:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.edu.au (daemon@bunyip.cc.uq.edu.au [130.102.2.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA21942 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 23:01:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bunyip.cc.uq.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.6) id QAA02155 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 16:01:08 +1000 Received: from localhost.dtir.qld.gov.au by ogre.dtir.qld.gov.au (8.7.5/DEVETIR-E0.3a) with SMTP id QAA18716 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 16:00:03 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199707030600.QAA18716@ogre.dtir.qld.gov.au> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ppp & HUP. References: <33BB1473.33590565@whistle.com> In-Reply-To: <33BB1473.33590565@whistle.com> from Julian Elischer at "Thu, 03 Jul 1997 02:54:43 +0000" Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 16:00:02 +1000 From: Stephen McKay Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [Somehow I missed the start of this. Strange. Am I losing mail?] On Thursday, 3rd July 1997, Julian Elischer wrote: >=?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= wrote: >> >> On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Brian Somers wrote: >> >> > > > reboot(8) will send SIGTERMs to the processes, but not SIGHUPs. >> > >> > death() in init.c :( >> >> I start thinking that sending HUP from init is a bug because: >> 1) It increase disk activity just before shutdown since all daemons >> re-read their configs. >> 2) It cause redials for redial-able software as uucp (and ppp some time >> ago). >> >> If nobody will explain why this HUP is neded (hanging shells perfectly >> killed by SIGKILL), I'll remove HUP sending from init. >> >I have processes that close down assuming they have > 5 or 6 seconds to do so when they receive HUP. >it's traditional. I don't like changing such traditions.. Well, back in the good old days (4.2 BSD), it was SIGTERM (from shutdown), then SIGKILL (from halt or reboot or init). If init ever wanted you dead, it just used SIGKILL. Your tradition must be a young tradition. :-) >From my earliest UNIX days, it has been SIGTERM == "Please exit soon" and SIGKILL == "Die now!". SIGHUP was for "Oops, you have no terminal now", and usually there was no point in carrying on. But that was before the days of POSIX, and their version of job control. If they've stuffed that up, someone should set me straight. It seems to me that the real problem here is that a lot of daemons now abuse all sorts of signals for a bunch of naff things. If anything, we should be removing all that crap. There are other, better IPC mechanisms. On the other hand, I can't see any reason for init to send SIGHUP, so I won't object if that is removed. Stephen. From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 2 23:15:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA22540 for current-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 23:15:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atohasi.mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp (atohasi.mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp [131.206.21.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA22523 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 23:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ohashi@localhost) by atohasi.mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp (8.8.5/3.4Wbeta6) id PAA14720; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:14:30 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:14:30 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199707030614.PAA14720@atohasi.mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp> To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unreadable files on photo CD In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 2 Jul 1997 22:04:10 -0700 (PDT)". <199707030504.WAA00942@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> From: ohashi@mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp (Takeshi Ohashi) X-Mailer: mnews [version 1.20] 1996-12/08(Sun) Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk asami>>We've been working on a huge number (like 800) of CDs that hold many asami>>images. There are about 100 images per CD. The pictures are in asami>>"photo CD" format (by the way, does anyone know if there is a free asami>>tool to view them?...I know only of Adobe PhotoShop and PhotoDeluxe). asami>>Each file is about 4 to 5 megabytes. Please try to use David Cluncie's PhotoCD patch for xv-3.10a. You can get it in xv310a-magpic2-PhotoCD-patch.tar.gz. I found the following one by archie. -- Takeshi OHASHI From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jul 2 23:19:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA22807 for current-outgoing; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 23:19:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.uniserve.com (tom@shell.uniserve.com [204.244.210.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA22796 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 23:19:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (tom@localhost) by shell.uniserve.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA08558; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 23:16:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell.uniserve.com: tom owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 23:16:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom To: Chuck Robey cc: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= , FreeBSD-current , Brian Somers , Joerg Wunsch Subject: Re: ppp & HUP. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Chuck Robey wrote: > According to what I read, the HUP was to allow processes to be able to > exit gracefully (and more slowly, perhaps saving state) than the SIGTERM. > I think the HUP is kinda historical. I can't see a strong reason to kill > it, because I've never personally seen a bug caused by it. Exactly what processes actually exit upon receiving a HUP? Not many. Apparently only some user processes. Daemons NEVER exit, instead they thrash the system. Ugh. > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- > Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data > chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. > 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | > Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD > (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- > > Tom From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 3 00:07:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA25087 for current-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 00:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.webspan.net (root@mail.webspan.net [206.154.70.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA25082 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 00:07:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.5]) by mail.webspan.net (WEBSPAN/970608) with ESMTP id DAA12462; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 03:07:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.webspan.net (WEBSPAN/970608) with ESMTP id DAA07459; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 03:07:42 -0400 (EDT) To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: unreadable files on photo CD In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 02 Jul 1997 22:04:10 PDT." <199707030504.WAA00942@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 03:07:42 -0400 Message-ID: <7457.867913662@orion.webspan.net> Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Satoshi Asami wrote in message ID <199707030504.WAA00942@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU>: > We've been working on a huge number (like 800) of CDs that hold many > images. There are about 100 images per CD. The pictures are in > "photo CD" format (by the way, does anyone know if there is a free > tool to view them?...I know only of Adobe PhotoShop and PhotoDeluxe). I think there is a free util to convert them to pbm's ... hpcdtoppm. It may have been integrated into the pbm toolkit now. > There is supposed to be 101 images on this CD. Win95 can read them > all (duh). Looking at the directory: > Does anyone know what could be the problem? I bet it's 'cos they are multi-session disks, and win95 displays the different sessions as one. When you add new photos to an existing photo-cd, they get added as new sessions. (from memory) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 3 00:33:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA26262 for current-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 00:33:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (ala-ca13-14.ix.netcom.com [204.32.168.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA26253; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 00:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.6/8.6.9) id AAA06698; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 00:33:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 00:33:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707030733.AAA06698@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG CC: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <7457.867913662@orion.webspan.net> (gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG) Subject: Re: unreadable files on photo CD From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * I think there is a free util to convert them to pbm's * .... hpcdtoppm. It may have been integrated into the pbm toolkit now. You're right, itojun told me it's already part of netpbm. Ohashi-san also mentioned a patch to xv, I'm testing it now. * I bet it's 'cos they are multi-session disks, and win95 displays the * different sessions as one. When you add new photos to an existing * photo-cd, they get added as new sessions. (from memory) Ah. I see some code going into the -current branch of mount_cd9660 and isofs/cd9660. Joerg, do you have any plans to integrate those to -2.2? vvvvvvv I'd try it myself but Joerg says "I've got similar patches for RELENG_2_2, should i commit them too?", which kinda implies it's not the exact same patch.... Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 3 00:43:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA26561 for current-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 00:43:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (ala-ca13-14.ix.netcom.com [204.32.168.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA26556 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 00:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.6/8.6.9) id AAA06822; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 00:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 00:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707030742.AAA06822@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: ohashi@mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp CC: current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199707030614.PAA14720@atohasi.mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp> (ohashi@mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp) Subject: Re: unreadable files on photo CD From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * Please try to use David Cluncie's PhotoCD patch for xv-3.10a. * You can get it in xv310a-magpic2-PhotoCD-patch.tar.gz. Thanks, I added it to the xv port. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 3 01:07:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA27528 for current-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 01:07:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from itojun.csl.sony.co.jp (itojun.csl.sony.co.jp [133.138.1.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA27522; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 01:06:51 -0700 (PDT) From: itojun@itojun.org Received: from localhost (itojun@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by itojun.csl.sony.co.jp (8.8.5/3.3W3) with ESMTP id RAA17381; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 17:00:41 +0900 (JST) To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Cc: gpalmer@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unreadable files on photo CD X-Template-Reply-To: itojun@itojun.org X-Template-Return-Receipt-To: itojun@itojun.org X-PGP-Fingerprint: F8 24 B4 2C 8C 98 57 FD 90 5F B4 60 79 54 16 E2 References: <199707030733.AAA06698@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> In-reply-to: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami)'s message of Thu, 3 Jul 1997 00:33:09 -0700 (PDT). <199707030733.AAA06698@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> X-Mailer: comp (MHng project) version 1997/04/30 02:23:09, by Jun-ichiro Itoh MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-ID: Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 17:00:40 +0900 Message-ID: <17378.867916840@itojun.csl.sony.co.jp> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > * I think there is a free util to convert them to pbm's > * .... hpcdtoppm. It may have been integrated into the pbm toolkit now. >You're right, itojun told me it's already part of netpbm. Ohashi-san >also mentioned a patch to xv, I'm testing it now. my explanation may not be true, so please be warned. (sorry) itojun From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 3 01:13:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA27808 for current-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 01:13:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (ala-ca13-14.ix.netcom.com [204.32.168.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA27802; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 01:13:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.6/8.6.9) id BAA06993; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 01:12:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 01:12:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707030812.BAA06993@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: itojun@itojun.org CC: gpalmer@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <17378.867916840@itojun.csl.sony.co.jp> Subject: Re: unreadable files on photo CD From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * my explanation may not be true, so please be warned. (sorry) Well, I already tried it and it was in netpbm and it worked. :) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 3 01:14:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA27881 for current-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 01:14:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com ([140.145.230.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA27869 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 01:14:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.dk.tfs.com (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03893; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 09:29:28 +0200 (CEST) To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) cc: current@freebsd.org From: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: unreadable files on photo CD In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 02 Jul 1997 22:04:10 PDT." <199707030504.WAA00942@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 09:29:28 +0200 Message-ID: <3891.867914968@critter.dk.tfs.com> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199707030504.WAA00942@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU>, Satoshi Asami write s: >Hi folks, > >We've been working on a huge number (like 800) of CDs that hold many >images. There are about 100 images per CD. The pictures are in >"photo CD" format (by the way, does anyone know if there is a free >tool to view them?...I know only of Adobe PhotoShop and PhotoDeluxe). >Each file is about 4 to 5 megabytes. ports/*/ImageMagic :-) >However, there are about a dozen CDs that we can't read all the images >off. For instance: I've seen this problem too. Is it a multi-session CD ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Power and ignorance is a disgusting cocktail. From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 3 01:17:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA27990 for current-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 01:17:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com ([140.145.230.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA27983 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 01:17:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from critter.dk.tfs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.dk.tfs.com (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03860; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 09:26:48 +0200 (CEST) To: Bruce Evans cc: ache@nagual.pp.ru, brian@awfulhak.org, current@freebsd.org, chuckr@Glue.umd.edu, joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de From: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: ppp & HUP. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 03 Jul 1997 13:02:24 +1000." <199707030302.NAA26921@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 09:26:47 +0200 Message-ID: <3858.867914807@critter.dk.tfs.com> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199707030302.NAA26921@godzilla.zeta.org.au>, Bruce Evans writes: >>If nobody will explain why this HUP is neded (hanging shells perfectly >>killed by SIGKILL), I'll remove HUP sending from init. > >SIGHUP may have been to allow shells to propagate SIGHUP to children. >There may still be some problems here for parts of the process tree >not killed by the death of the controlling process. Perhaps shells >do a more complete job of propagating the SIGHUP? SIGHUP to processes with a controling tty, SIGTERM to the rest ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Power and ignorance is a disgusting cocktail. From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 3 03:05:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA01849 for current-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 03:05:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA01844 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 03:05:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA02033 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 03:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707031005.DAA02033@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Any luck with BSDI's communicator 4.0b6? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 03:05:24 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The minute that communicator starts over here I get a floating point exception: ./netscape Floating point exception (core dumped) Tnks, Amancio From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 3 03:25:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA02526 for current-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 03:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.166.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA02520 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 03:25:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (annexr2-37.slip.Uni-Koeln.DE) by Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE with SMTP id AA23209 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:25:21 +0200 Received: (from se@localhost) by x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) id MAA00449; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:25:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Face: " Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:25:20 +0200 From: Stefan Esser To: Steven Wallace Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCI-ISA bridge & sio ports References: <199707030002.RAA04034@newport.ece.uci.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.74 In-Reply-To: <199707030002.RAA04034@newport.ece.uci.edu>; from Steven Wallace on Wed, Jul 02, 1997 at 05:02:15PM -0700 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [ CC: trimmed to freebsd-current only ] On Jul 2, Steven Wallace wrote: > I got a new Iwill P55XUW motherboard with the Intel Triton 430TX chipset. > The built-in serial ports are not working under FreeBSD, although they > work under Windows 95. This is quite surprising! If the BIOS did not disable the builtin ports, then they ought to respond to the ISA probe, and there is no further kernel support required! > When the system boots and displays the system configuration, it displays > the port of all three serial ports correctly, but when FreeBSD boots, > it does not recognize sio0 or sio1 (built-in) but only sio2 (an ISA card). > I thought the problem might be because FreeBSD does not recognize > by name the 430TX chipset. Does bsd have to activate these built-in ports > or is this completely a BIOS problem? (and why is it okay under DOS?) The recognizing of chipsets is just required to display some chipset configuration registers in the verbose boot case. Only systems with more than one gost to PCI bridge (some PPro boards) require actual code to support the PCI probe on the second and further directly attached PCI bus. This deos not apply to the P55XUW, and did only affect PCI probes, anyway ... > Here is a partial probe list: > > Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: > chip0 rev 1 on pci0:0 > chip1 rev 1 on pci0:7:0 > pci0:7:1: Intel Corporation, device=0x7111, class=storage (ide) [no driver assigned] > pci0:7:2: Intel Corporation, device=0x7112, class=0x0c, subclass=0x03 int d irq 15 [no driver assigned] > chip2 rev 1 on pci0:7:3 I think I commited patches to identify all four "functions" present in the TX chipset, a few weeks ago, but only to the -current branch. > sio0 not found at 0x3f8 > sio1 not found at 0x2f8 > sio2 at 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 5 on isa [ISA modem card] This is weird! The SIO's were not found by the ISA probe, and you may want to put some debugging printfs into the probe, in order to understand where it fails. TX boards have been sold for more than half a year, and I'm sure there is no problem in general, or it had been reported months ago ... I don't think that your problem is PCI related, but will give any support you need, within the (narrow) limits of my spare time. Regards, STefan From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 3 04:13:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA04042 for current-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 04:13:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (ache.relcom.ru [194.58.229.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA04031 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 04:13:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.8.6/8.8.5) id PAA00587; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:13:08 +0400 (MSD) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:12:51 +0400 (MSD) From: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= To: Amancio Hasty cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Any luck with BSDI's communicator 4.0b6? In-Reply-To: <199707031005.DAA02033@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote: > The minute that communicator starts over here I get a floating point > exception: > ./netscape > Floating point exception (core dumped) It is why I commit linux-netscape4 recently. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 3 04:14:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA04070 for current-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 04:14:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA04058 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 04:14:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bbs.collider.com (bbs.collider.com [208.201.52.5]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA03633 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 04:14:05 -0700 (PDT) X-ROUTED: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 07:09:14 -0500 Received: from p7.ts1.hartf.CT.tiac.com [207.60.201.8] by bbs.collider.com with smtp id AHAIBOCI ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 07:08:30 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970703071321.007bd660@excelsior.utopia.ml.org> X-Sender: coolman@excelsior.utopia.ml.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 07:13:21 -0400 To: current@freebsd.org From: webmaster Subject: freebsd partitoin Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I tried to install free BSD on my system. I made a partitoin on my d drive for about 300 megs for BSD and now i lost the 300 megs so my d drive only like 400 megs when it is suppose to be 800. How do i fix this?? Reply -- Coolman IRC Nick: ssnow (Undernet, Xworld, DALnet) President of Nikhilino Online Systems http://www.nols.com From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 3 04:17:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA04202 for current-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 04:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (ache.relcom.ru [194.58.229.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA04189 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 04:16:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.8.6/8.8.5) id PAA00598; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:15:57 +0400 (MSD) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:15:55 +0400 (MSD) From: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= To: Nate Williams cc: FreeBSD-current , Brian Somers , Chuck Robey , Joerg Wunsch Subject: Re: ppp & HUP. In-Reply-To: <199707030442.WAA29209@rocky.mt.sri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Nate Williams wrote: > > If nobody will explain why this HUP is neded (hanging shells perfectly > > killed by SIGKILL), I'll remove HUP sending from init. > > Because it gives processes a chance to die 'nicely', instead of having > the run pulled out from under them. SIGTERM exist for this reason, not SIGHUP. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 3 04:20:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA04378 for current-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 04:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (ache.relcom.ru [194.58.229.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA04371 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 04:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.8.6/8.8.5) id PAA00610; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:19:51 +0400 (MSD) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:19:50 +0400 (MSD) From: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= To: Julian Elischer cc: FreeBSD-current , Brian Somers , Chuck Robey , Joerg Wunsch Subject: Re: ppp & HUP. In-Reply-To: <33BB1473.33590565@whistle.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Julian Elischer wrote: > I have processes that close down assuming they have > 5 or 6 seconds to do so when they receive HUP. > it's traditional. I don't like changing such traditions.. It seems you mix SIGHUP and SIGTERM, the exact Tradition was: SIGTERM, 10 secs, SIGKILL There is no SIGHUP in Tradition. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 3 04:49:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA05417 for current-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 04:49:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (ache.relcom.ru [194.58.229.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA05381; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 04:49:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.8.6/8.8.5) id PAA00718; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:48:49 +0400 (MSD) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:48:47 +0400 (MSD) From: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= To: jdp@freebsd.org, cvsup-bugs@polstra.com, FreeBSD-current cc: Mark Huizer Subject: CVSUP and CVS branches: still not synchronized, please fix! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Андрей Чернов wrote: > From recent cvsup I got: > > Checkout src/sbin/disklabel/disklabel.5.5 > Checkout src/sys/net/ppp_deflate.c > Checkout src/sys/net/zlib.c Well, from today cvsup I still have this files, they are not deleted. But when I do 'cvs co' on FreeFall I don't see them, it means that sources and its copies de-synchronized. It can be general CVSUP error or something wrong with cvsup.nl mirror I use, I don't know... Please fix! -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 3 04:56:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA05703 for current-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 04:56:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alterego.stack.nl (insgate.stack.nl [131.155.140.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA05698; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 04:56:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from xaa@localhost) by alterego.stack.nl (8.8.6/8.8.5) id NAA05503; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 13:56:20 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970703135618.41226@alterego.stack.nl> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 13:56:18 +0200 From: Mark Huizer To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= Cc: jdp@freebsd.org, cvsup-bugs@polstra.com, FreeBSD-current Subject: Re: CVSUP and CVS branches: still not synchronized, please fix! References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.75 In-Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=3CPine=2EBSF=2E3=2E96=2E970703154257=2E706A-100000=40nag?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?ual=2Epp=2Eru=3E=3B_from_=22=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=CE=CF=D7=22_on_Thu=2C_Jul_03=2C_1997_at_03=3A48=3A47PM_+?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?0400?= Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Checkout src/sbin/disklabel/disklabel.5.5 > > Checkout src/sys/net/ppp_deflate.c > > Checkout src/sys/net/zlib.c > > Well, from today cvsup I still have this files, they are not deleted. > But when I do 'cvs co' on FreeFall I don't see them, it means > that sources and its copies de-synchronized. > It can be general CVSUP error or something wrong with cvsup.nl mirror > I use, I don't know... > Please fix! I've tried. I delete the disklabel dir and ran a cvsup to update, but it kindly creates the Attic dir and the disklabel.5.5 file and the reference to disklabel.5.5 in disklabel.5.5,v :) I`ve tried. Mark ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Mark Huizer - xaa@stack.nl - rcbamh@urc.tue.nl - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - No one can feel as helpless as the owner of a sick goldfish - - (F. McKinney Hubbard) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 3 05:31:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA07015 for current-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 05:31:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.itfs.nsk.su (ns.nsk.ru [193.124.36.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA06991 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 05:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from itfs.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by gw.itfs.nsk.su (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id TAA09341 for current@freebsd.org; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 19:30:22 +0700 Received: by itfs.nsk.su; Thu, 3 Jul 97 19:42:12 +0700 (NST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by news.itfs.nsk.su (8.7.5/8.6.12) id TAA10963; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 19:18:31 +0700 (NSD) From: nnd@itfs.nsk.su To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any luck with BSDI's communicator 4.0b6? Date: 3 Jul 1997 12:18:29 GMT Message-ID: <5pg5al$a0k@news.itfs.nsk.su> References: Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Андрей Чернов wrote: > On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > The minute that communicator starts over here I get a floating point > > exception: > > ./netscape > > Floating point exception (core dumped) > It is why I commit linux-netscape4 recently. Two questions: 1) Why do you use linux1 version ? (I try linux2.0 and it seems to work here) 2) Does linux1 version have problems with libnullplugin.so ? (my linux2.0 version says that it can not load this library) N.Dudorov From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 3 06:04:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA08737 for current-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 06:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lsd.relcom.eu.net (lsd.relcom.eu.net [193.124.23.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA08716 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 06:03:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ache@localhost) by lsd.relcom.eu.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) id RAA22072; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 17:03:42 +0400 (MSD) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 17:03:42 +0400 (MSD) From: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= X-Sender: ache@lsd.relcom.eu.net To: nnd@itfs.nsk.su cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Any luck with BSDI's communicator 4.0b6? In-Reply-To: <5pg5al$a0k@news.itfs.nsk.su> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 3 Jul 1997 nnd@itfs.nsk.su wrote: > 1) Why do you use linux1 version ? (I try linux2.0 and it seems > to work here) > 2) Does linux1 version have problems with libnullplugin.so ? > (my linux2.0 version says that it can not load this library) It is why. linux1 not say anything about libnullplugin.so Maybe we can add libnullplugin.so to linux_lib instead, but better ask linux_lib maintainer. I am not expert in linux area. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 3 07:19:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA11838 for current-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 07:19:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.neosoft.com (as5200-port-254.no.neosoft.com [206.27.167.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11825 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 07:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by localhost.neosoft.com (8.8.6/8.8.5) id JAA01133 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 09:19:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19970703065808.DU65077@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 09:16:34 -0500 (CDT) Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. From: Conrad Sabatier To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Nevermind, going backto stable (was Re: CD-ROM mount problem) Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 03-Jul-97 J Wunsch wrote: >As John Fieber wrote: > >> > I only have one CD-ROM drive (ATAPI). > >> I was fiddling with cdd (reads audio tracks from CDs) and after >> running it, I get the above error. After I reboot, everything is > >cdd is probably turning your drive into 2352 byte mode. > >> fine. Could you be running something that is fiddling with the >> SCSI system? > >Hard to believe for an ATAPI CD. :) That's OK, ya'all. I'm going back to -stable. As this is my one and only machine, I really can't afford to risk not having things working properly. Take care, Conrad -- Conrad Sabatier http://www.neosoft.com/~conrads/ From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 3 07:34:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA12680 for current-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 07:34:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (ache.relcom.ru [194.58.229.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA12672 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 07:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.8.6/8.8.5) id SAA01071; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 18:33:40 +0400 (MSD) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 18:33:38 +0400 (MSD) From: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= To: Joerg Wunsch cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ppp & HUP. In-Reply-To: <19970703074308.ML07825@uriah.heep.sax.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, J Wunsch wrote: > SIGHUP should be sent to all process groups associated with tty lines. > clean_ttys() does this. So i think we should remove the SIGHUP salute Really? As I see, clean_ttys() kills only changed/listed in /etc/ttys stuff, not all processes. Process can open device and make it control terminal bypassing /etc/ttys completely. > that's being sent in death(), and replace it with a call to > clean_ttys(). This will gracefully log off all tty-line associated > process groups, without blatantly reconfiguring all daemons. Good idea, but I don't see how clean_ttys() stuff can help here. > Alternatively, the loop in death() should examine whether the process > is in the list of active tty line process group leaders, and only > SIGHUP them. It is the same approach, so question is: how to find from init all processes with have control terminals? I see only kvm-like way which not sounds good... If we not find easy way to do it, maybe simple remove HUP sending? -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 3 07:42:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA13172 for current-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 07:42:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (ache.relcom.ru [194.58.229.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13167 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 07:42:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.8.6/8.8.5) id SAA01098; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 18:42:25 +0400 (MSD) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 18:42:22 +0400 (MSD) From: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= To: Joerg Wunsch cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ppp & HUP. In-Reply-To: <19970703074308.ML07825@uriah.heep.sax.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, J Wunsch wrote: > SIGHUP should be sent to all process groups associated with tty lines. It is not so obvious thing. Some software (like uucp) which really use HUP from control tty treat is as carrier lost and redials immediately. It can cause very bad effects f.e. phone bill leak. I.e. imagine modem which redial at hangup and successfully connect while machine goes down at this moment... It seems that no SIGHUP sending not break anything, but sending it is dangerous. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 3 07:46:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA13436 for current-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 07:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13430 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 07:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA07406; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 09:46:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 09:46:06 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Joerg Wunsch cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CD-ROM mount problem In-Reply-To: <19970703065808.DU65077@uriah.heep.sax.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, J Wunsch wrote: > As John Fieber wrote: > > fine. Could you be running something that is fiddling with the > > SCSI system? > > Hard to believe for an ATAPI CD. :) Uh, I failed to notice that the topic of discussion was ATAPI drives. Who had the hat last? -john From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 3 17:59:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA01957 for current-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 17:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01952 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 17:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA20399; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 17:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707040059.RAA20399@austin.polstra.com> To: Bruce Evans cc: ache@nagual.pp.ru, current@FreeBSD.ORG, xaa@stack.nl, peter@spinner.dialix.com.au Subject: Re: CVSUP and CVS branches: still not synchronized, please fix! In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 04 Jul 1997 04:39:22 +1000." <199707031839.EAA26211@godzilla.zeta.org.au> References: <199707031839.EAA26211@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 17:59:38 -0700 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Perhaps the cvs bug that caused histedit.h to reappear in all > checked out trees only affects cvsup for disklabel.5.5. I think the problem is a botch in the CVS repository. (Hi, Peter!) RCS file: disklabel.5.5,v Working file: disklabel.5.5 head: 1.1 branch: 1.1.1 locks: strict access list: symbolic names: bsd_44_lite_2: 1.1.1.3 bsd_44_lite: 1.1.1.1 CSRG: 1.1.1 keyword substitution: kv total revisions: 4; selected revisions: 4 description: ---------------------------- revision 1.1 date: 1994/05/26 06:34:00; author: rgrimes; state: Exp; branches: 1.1.1; Initial revision ---------------------------- revision 1.1.1.3 date: 1997/07/02 00:24:14; author: bde; state: Exp; lines: +6 -2 Import Lite2's src/sbin, except for XNSrouted and routed. All relevant files in src/sbin are off the vendor branch, so this doesn't change the active versions. ---------------------------- revision 1.1.1.2 date: 1995/12/30 18:51:57; author: peter; state: dead; lines: +0 -0 recording cvs-1.6 file death ---------------------------- revision 1.1.1.1 date: 1994/05/26 06:34:01; author: rgrimes; state: Exp; lines: +0 -0 BSD 4.4 Lite sbin Sources Note: XNSrouted and routed NOT imported here, they shall be imported with usr.sbin. ---------------------------- Notice that the death of the file was recorded in 1.1.1.2, which is on the vendor branch. This should never happen. CVS will never do this. It must have been done by hand with raw RCS commands. CVS would have recorded the death on the main branch, in revision 1.2. If that had been the case, then Bruce's subsequent vendor branch import would have come up as a conflict, and the merge would have again left the file dead. Since the death was incorrectly recorded on the vendor branch, the new import of 1.1.1.3 brought the file back to life again as far as CVSup is concerned. (It has "state: Exp" instead of "state: dead".) If CVS still treats it as dead, that can only be because of some sort of provision for compatibility with very old repositories (pre-1.6 of CVS). I am not really interested in supporting compatibility that far back. Anybody who objects is respectfully invited to spend about 8 hours browsing the CVS sources, trying to figure out how it ought to work for all cases. See how you feel about it after that. :-) I think the right thing to do at this point is to simply "cvs rm" the offending file again. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 3 18:34:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA03057 for current-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 18:34:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA03049 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 18:34:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA20917; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 18:34:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707040134.SAA20917@austin.polstra.com> To: Bruce Evans cc: ache@nagual.pp.ru, current@FreeBSD.ORG, xaa@stack.nl, peter@spinner.dialix.com.au Subject: Re: CVSUP and CVS branches: still not synchronized, please fix! Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 18:34:30 -0700 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk About disklabel.5.5, I wrote: > I think the right thing to do at this point is to simply "cvs rm" > the offending file again. and I just did that. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 3 19:12:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA03951 for current-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 19:12:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03939 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 19:12:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from news.quick.net (donegan@news.quick.net [207.212.170.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA23956 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 19:12:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from donegan@localhost) by news.quick.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id TAA15553; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 19:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 19:11:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "Steven P. Donegan" To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Where is current? In-Reply-To: <199707040134.SAA20917@austin.polstra.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Where is current and what is the process for getting it now? I'm still running an 'old' version: $ uname -a FreeBSD dev-a.quick.net 3.0-970428-SNAP FreeBSD 3.0-970428-SNAP #0: Thu May 1 05:59:53 PDT 1997 donegan@dev-a.quick.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/SMP i386 $ $ uptime 7:04PM up 22 days, 21:17, 3 users, load averages: 0.12, 0.07, 0.04 $ It's never crashed, it's only me rebooting for some reason :-) Now that I have some time I'd like to get back to hacking... TIA From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 3 19:40:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA04874 for current-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 19:40:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.uniserve.com (tom@shell.uniserve.com [204.244.210.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA04865 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 19:40:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (tom@localhost) by shell.uniserve.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA02901; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 19:37:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell.uniserve.com: tom owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 19:37:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom To: "Steven P. Donegan" cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Where is current? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 3 Jul 1997, Steven P. Donegan wrote: > Where is current and what is the process for getting it now? I'm still > FreeBSD dev-a.quick.net 3.0-970428-SNAP FreeBSD 3.0-970428-SNAP #0: Thu Current hasn't moved location in the last two months. And cvsup is still the best to get it. Tom From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 3 20:28:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA06305 for current-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 20:28:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA06300 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 20:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA21389; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 20:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707040328.UAA21389@austin.polstra.com> To: Charlie & cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS-related process hangs in -current In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:21:16 +0200." <19970630102116.22811@phy.uni-bayreuth.de> References: <199706291822.LAA00962@austin.polstra.com> <19970630102116.22811@phy.uni-bayreuth.de> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 20:28:07 -0700 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Mounting the NFS-Directory with option nfsv2 "solved" the problem > for me. You're right, that fixed it for me. Thanks. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 4 00:00:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA12648 for current-outgoing; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 00:00:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netcom9.netcom.com (mantar@netcom9.netcom.com [192.100.81.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA12642 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 00:00:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (mantar@localhost) by netcom9.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id AAA10732; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 00:00:54 -0700 Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 00:00:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Manfred Antar X-Sender: mantar@netcom9 To: FreeBSD current Subject: is fingerd broken Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If i try to finger my machine from remote network i get this error: Jul 3 23:47:45 mantar fingerd[27667]: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable Jul 3 23:47:45 mantar fingerd[27667]: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable If i use finger locally it works fine: (manfred)504}finger root Login: root Name: Manfred Antar Directory: /root Shell: /usr/local/bin/bash Office Phone: 415 550-4975 Home Phone: 415 681-6235 On since Thu Jul 3 20:57 (PDT) on ttyp2, idle 0:01 No Mail. Any ideas Thanks Manfred ============================== || mantar@netcom.com || || Ph. (415) 681-6235 || ============================== From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 4 00:38:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA13804 for current-outgoing; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 00:38:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from awfulhak.demon.co.uk (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA13795 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 00:38:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from awfulhak.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.demon.co.uk (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA00773; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 08:27:50 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199707040727.IAA00773@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Julian Elischer cc: Tom , Chuck Robey , =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= , FreeBSD-current , Brian Somers , Joerg Wunsch Subject: Re: ppp & HUP. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 03 Jul 1997 12:39:56 PDT." <33BC000C.61133CF4@whistle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 08:27:50 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Tom wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Chuck Robey wrote: > > > > > According to what I read, the HUP was to allow processes to be able to > > > exit gracefully (and more slowly, perhaps saving state) than the SIGTERM. > > > I think the HUP is kinda historical. I can't see a strong reason to kill > > > it, because I've never personally seen a bug caused by it. > > > > Exactly what processes actually exit upon receiving a HUP? Not many. > > Apparently only some user processes. Daemons NEVER exit, instead they > > thrash the system. Ugh. > > > > > > shells exit on HUP but not TERM > from my experience. Shells are also usually spawned indirectly from ttys and get a HUP for that reason. Andrey isn't suggesting changing that behaviour. -- Brian , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 4 00:38:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA13854 for current-outgoing; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 00:38:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from awfulhak.demon.co.uk (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA13840 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 00:38:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from awfulhak.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.demon.co.uk (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA01082; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 08:30:23 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199707040730.IAA01082@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Terry Lambert cc: tom@uniserve.com (Tom), chuckr@glue.umd.edu, ache@nagual.pp.ru, current@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@awfulhak.org, joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Subject: Re: ppp & HUP. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 03 Jul 1997 15:23:12 PDT." <199707032223.PAA09801@phaeton.artisoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 08:30:23 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Exactly what processes actually exit upon receiving a HUP? Not many. > > Apparently only some user processes. Daemons NEVER exit, instead they > > thrash the system. Ugh. > > All of them that don't explicitly trap HUP. > > I always though this should have been handled by revoking the tty's > allowing that to HUP to the process group. This would also mean > removing the HUP sending from init. Don't confuse the HUP that's sent to everything that's "on" in /etc/ttys and the HUP that's sent in death() (before TERM & KILL) when the system's coming down. > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. -- Brian , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 4 01:40:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA16186 for current-outgoing; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 01:40:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.itfs.nsk.su (ns.nsk.ru [193.124.36.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA16181 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 01:40:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from itfs.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by gw.itfs.nsk.su (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id PAA13114 for current@freebsd.org; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 15:40:15 +0700 Received: by itfs.nsk.su; Fri, 4 Jul 97 15:52:14 +0700 (NST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by news.itfs.nsk.su (8.7.5/8.6.12) id PAA25235; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 15:22:07 +0700 (NSD) From: nnd@itfs.nsk.su To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any luck with BSDI's communicator 4.0b6? Date: 4 Jul 1997 08:22:05 GMT Message-ID: <5pibrd$ne8@news.itfs.nsk.su> References: Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Андрей Чернов wrote: > On 3 Jul 1997 nnd@itfs.nsk.su wrote: > > 1) Why do you use linux1 version ? (I try linux2.0 and it seems > > to work here) > > 2) Does linux1 version have problems with libnullplugin.so ? > > (my linux2.0 version says that it can not load this library) > It is why. linux1 not say anything about libnullplugin.so Yes, because there is NO libnullplugin.so in *-linux1.2* communicator ;-) > Maybe we can add libnullplugin.so to linux_lib instead, > but better ask linux_lib maintainer. I am not expert in linux area. As I can see 'libnullplugin.so' from *-linux2.0* communicator contains references to 'libXm.so.1.2' i.e. it requires Motif-1.2 for Linux. So now we can not use Netscape plugin's with either of *linux* communicators. Since *linux1.2* distribution is smaller (does'nt contains dynamically loaded without Motiff version) your port is the right one :-( N.Dudorov From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 4 11:21:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA03199 for current-outgoing; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 11:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA03193 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 11:21:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id UAA28800; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 20:21:49 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA18504; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 19:50:23 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970704195023.ZB55825@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 19:50:23 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@freefall.FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD current) Cc: mantar@netcom.com (Manfred Antar) Subject: Re: is fingerd broken References: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: ; from Manfred Antar on Jul 4, 1997 00:00:51 -0700 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Manfred Antar wrote: > If i try to finger my machine from remote network i get this error: > Jul 3 23:47:45 mantar fingerd[27667]: fork: Resource temporarily > unavailable You've got an httpd running? Bump the max proc limit for user `nobody'. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 4 11:22:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA03227 for current-outgoing; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 11:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA03220 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 11:22:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id UAA28801; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 20:22:02 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA18515; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 19:52:46 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970704195246.VF36929@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 19:52:46 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: nnd@itfs.nsk.su Subject: Re: Any luck with BSDI's communicator 4.0b6? References: <5pibrd$ne8@news.itfs.nsk.su> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <5pibrd$ne8@news.itfs.nsk.su>; from nnd@itfs.nsk.su on Jul 4, 1997 08:22:05 +0000 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As nnd@itfs.nsk.su wrote: > As I can see 'libnullplugin.so' from *-linux2.0* > communicator contains references to 'libXm.so.1.2' i.e. it > requires Motif-1.2 for Linux. According to Kaleb Keithly, Motif 2.0 is supposed to be binary compatible with Motif 1.2. From some discussion on the XFree86 lists however, it seems to be tricky to make the 2.0 share lib pretend to be a 1.2 regarding the Linux shared loader. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 4 11:39:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA03770 for current-outgoing; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 11:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA03764 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 11:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA10887; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 11:34:34 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199707041834.LAA10887@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: ppp & HUP. To: brian@awfulhak.org (Brian Somers) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 11:34:34 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, tom@uniserve.com, chuckr@glue.umd.edu, ache@nagual.pp.ru, current@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@awfulhak.org, joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de In-Reply-To: <199707040730.IAA01082@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> from "Brian Somers" at Jul 4, 97 08:30:23 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Exactly what processes actually exit upon receiving a HUP? Not many. > > > Apparently only some user processes. Daemons NEVER exit, instead they > > > thrash the system. Ugh. > > > > All of them that don't explicitly trap HUP. > > > > I always though this should have been handled by revoking the tty's > > allowing that to HUP to the process group. This would also mean > > removing the HUP sending from init. > > Don't confuse the HUP that's sent to everything that's "on" > in /etc/ttys and the HUP that's sent in death() (before TERM > & KILL) when the system's coming down. Everything that's "on" in /etc/ttys has a controlling tty; they will each get a HUP after the revoke. The problem here is the HUP propagation to chile processes of the process group leader in init. The HUP that's sent in death() should not be sent. It should ne implicit in the revocation of all tty's by shutdown(). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 4 11:58:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA04287 for current-outgoing; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 11:58:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mantar.slip.netcom.com (mantar.slip.netcom.com [192.187.167.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04282 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 11:58:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dual (DUAL [192.187.167.136]) by mantar.slip.netcom.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA04058; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 11:58:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970704115834.0093ed70@mantar.slip.netcom.com> X-Sender: guest@mantar.slip.netcom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 11:58:34 -0700 To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch), current@freefall.FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD current) From: Manfred Antar Subject: Re: is fingerd broken In-Reply-To: <19970704195023.ZB55825@uriah.heep.sax.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 07:50 PM 7/4/97 +0200, J Wunsch wrote: >As Manfred Antar wrote: > >> If i try to finger my machine from remote network i get this error: >> Jul 3 23:47:45 mantar fingerd[27667]: fork: Resource temporarily >> unavailable > >You've got an httpd running? Bump the max proc limit for user >`nobody'. > >-- >cheers, J"org > >joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE >Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) > That's sounds like the problem.If i reboot it works but after awhile no. How do i change the max proc limit ? Thanks Manfred |==============================| | mantar@netcom.com | | Ph. (415) 681-6235 | |==============================| From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 4 16:16:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA11536 for current-outgoing; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 16:16:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA11504 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 16:15:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.5/8.6.9) id JAA08733; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 09:12:55 +1000 Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 09:12:55 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199707042312.JAA08733@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bde@zeta.org.au, jdp@polstra.com Subject: Re: CVSUP and CVS branches: still not synchronized, please fix! Cc: ache@nagual.pp.ru, current@FreeBSD.ORG, peter@spinner.dialix.com.au, xaa@stack.nl Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> Perhaps the cvs bug that caused histedit.h to reappear in all >> checked out trees only affects cvsup for disklabel.5.5. > >I think the problem is a botch in the CVS repository. (Hi, Peter!) > > RCS file: disklabel.5.5,v >... > ---------------------------- > revision 1.1.1.2 > date: 1995/12/30 18:51:57; author: peter; state: dead; lines: +0 -0 > recording cvs-1.6 file death > ---------------------------- >... >Notice that the death of the file was recorded in 1.1.1.2, which >is on the vendor branch. This should never happen. CVS will never There are a few :-) other files like this - everything that was moved to the attic between 1993 and 1995 before cvs-1.6 potentially has it; 2065 of 5809 files in attics have "recording cvs-1.6 file death". >If CVS still treats it as dead, that can only be because of some >sort of provision for compatibility with very old repositories >(pre-1.6 of CVS). I am not really interested in supporting This leaves the mystery of why was histedit.h _was_ brought back. It had exactly the same history as disklabel.5.5 except for timestamps and the comment line (I checked backups made on May 17 1997). Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 4 22:09:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA22166 for current-outgoing; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 22:09:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spinner.dialix.com.au (spinner.dialix.com.au [192.203.228.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA22142 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 22:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spinner.dialix.com.au (localhost.dialix.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by spinner.dialix.com.au with ESMTP id NAA03826; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 13:05:36 +0800 (WST) Message-Id: <199707050505.NAA03826@spinner.dialix.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0delta 6/3/97 To: Bruce Evans cc: jdp@polstra.com, ache@nagual.pp.ru, current@FreeBSD.ORG, xaa@stack.nl Subject: Re: CVSUP and CVS branches: still not synchronized, please fix! In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 05 Jul 1997 09:12:55 +1000." <199707042312.JAA08733@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 13:05:35 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bruce Evans wrote: > >> Perhaps the cvs bug that caused histedit.h to reappear in all > >> checked out trees only affects cvsup for disklabel.5.5. > > > >I think the problem is a botch in the CVS repository. (Hi, Peter!) > > > > RCS file: disklabel.5.5,v > >... > > ---------------------------- > > revision 1.1.1.2 > > date: 1995/12/30 18:51:57; author: peter; state: dead; lines: +0 -0 > > recording cvs-1.6 file death > > ---------------------------- > >... > >Notice that the death of the file was recorded in 1.1.1.2, which > >is on the vendor branch. This should never happen. CVS will never > > There are a few :-) other files like this - everything that was moved to > the attic between 1993 and 1995 before cvs-1.6 potentially has it; 2065 > of 5809 files in attics have "recording cvs-1.6 file death". cvs supplies (or supplied) a script to convert "pre-death-support" repositories (ie: those using Attics as the primary indication of "alive") to the newer "state: dead" form. Hmm.. it seems to have gone, it was called "convert.sh". > Bruce Cheers, -Peter From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 4 22:43:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA22985 for current-outgoing; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 22:43:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA22977 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 22:43:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.5/8.6.9) id PAA18074; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 15:35:34 +1000 Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 15:35:34 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199707050535.PAA18074@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bde@zeta.org.au, peter@spinner.dialix.com.au Subject: Re: CVSUP and CVS branches: still not synchronized, please fix! Cc: ache@nagual.pp.ru, current@FreeBSD.ORG, jdp@polstra.com, xaa@stack.nl Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >cvs supplies (or supplied) a script to convert "pre-death-support" >repositories (ie: those using Attics as the primary indication of "alive") >to the newer "state: dead" form. Hmm.. it seems to have gone, it was >called "convert.sh". Not gone, just dead :-). It looks like rev.1.2 broke it (it probably really needed the rcs extension -K). Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 4 22:51:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA23341 for current-outgoing; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 22:51:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA23336 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 22:51:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id HAA05838 for current@freefall.FreeBSD.org; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 07:51:43 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA21117; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 07:35:20 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970705073520.RD05292@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 07:35:20 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@freefall.FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD current) Subject: Re: is fingerd broken References: <3.0.3.32.19970704115834.0093ed70@mantar.slip.netcom.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19970704115834.0093ed70@mantar.slip.netcom.com>; from Manfred Antar on Jul 4, 1997 11:58:34 -0700 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Manfred Antar wrote: > That's sounds like the problem.If i reboot it works but after awhile > no. How do i change the max proc limit ? For a newer system, with login classes. For an older system, with the ulimit shell builtin in a shell-script wrapper. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jul 4 23:26:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA24584 for current-outgoing; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 23:26:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spinner.dialix.com.au (spinner.dialix.com.au [192.203.228.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA24578 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 23:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spinner.dialix.com.au (localhost.dialix.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by spinner.dialix.com.au with ESMTP id OAA04518; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 14:24:27 +0800 (WST) Message-Id: <199707050624.OAA04518@spinner.dialix.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0delta 6/3/97 To: Bruce Evans cc: ache@nagual.pp.ru, current@FreeBSD.ORG, jdp@polstra.com, xaa@stack.nl Subject: Re: CVSUP and CVS branches: still not synchronized, please fix! In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 05 Jul 1997 15:35:34 +1000." <199707050535.PAA18074@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 14:24:26 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bruce Evans wrote: > >cvs supplies (or supplied) a script to convert "pre-death-support" > >repositories (ie: those using Attics as the primary indication of "alive") > >to the newer "state: dead" form. Hmm.. it seems to have gone, it was > >called "convert.sh". > > Not gone, just dead :-). It looks like rev.1.2 broke it (it probably > really needed the rcs extension -K). rcs -K ("kill") was stillborn. At one point there was a set of patches going around to allow rcs files to have built-in dead revisions, but they never took off. At the time, there were two competing methods "state:dead" and the -K option, they both behaved the same as far as cvs was concerned except that -K needed patches to rcs and at the time I don't think there was much chance of having them included in rcs "officially" for some time, while the "state:dead" was functionally the same except that it didn't need patches and was not useful for rcs commands. Both systems would have followed the default branch, so "ci -K ..." would have also screwed the file in question as the file would have been killed on the vendor branch. The problem was that the script didn't know about how cvs maintains it's version numbers. cvs would have done a 'ci -r1.2 -sdead ...' and forced the "branch:1.1.1" to be ignored. There's a script "cvs2vendor" in the contrib area that does know about these rules.. It's amazingly complex compared to "convert.sh". I'm amazed that this has taken 2 years to turn up... > Bruce Cheers, -Peter From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 5 03:25:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA00251 for current-outgoing; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 03:25:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsd.fs.bauing.th-darmstadt.de (bsd.fs.bauing.th-darmstadt.de [130.83.63.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA00240 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 03:25:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panke.panke.de (anonymous213.ppp.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.213]) by bsd.fs.bauing.th-darmstadt.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA20586 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 12:25:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by panke.panke.de (8.8.5/8.6.12) id MAA00736; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 12:01:32 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 12:01:32 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199707051001.MAA00736@panke.panke.de> From: Wolfram Schneider To: current@freebsd.org Subject: long usernames in top MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The long usernames in top(1) looks not well. In most cases the usernames are less than 8 chars. Top reserves 16 chars for the username in the output string. Here is a workaround. Top should print only the first 10 characters. If the username is longer than 10 characters, the 10th character will be replaces with an asterisk ('*'). An other alternative would be to use the uid instead the long username. Index: contrib/top/username.c =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/contrib/top/username.c,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.2 username.c --- username.c 1997/04/21 13:52:29 1.2 +++ username.c 1997/07/04 22:49:35 @@ -126,7 +126,9 @@ /* empty or wrong slot -- fill it with new value */ hash_table[hashindex].uid = uid; - (void) strncpy(hash_table[hashindex].name, name, UT_NAMESIZE); + (void) strncpy(hash_table[hashindex].name, name, 10); + if (strlen(name) > 10) + *(hash_table[hashindex].name + 9) = '*'; return(hashindex); } Index: usr.bin/top/machine.c =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/usr.bin/top/machine.c,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -u -r1.3 machine.c --- machine.c 1997/04/21 13:53:47 1.3 +++ machine.c 1997/07/04 10:21:54 @@ -122,22 +122,22 @@ #ifdef P_IDLEPROC /* FreeBSD SMP kernel */ static char header[] = - " PID X PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND"; + " PID X PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND"; /* 0123456 -- field to fill in starts at header+6 */ #define UNAME_START 6 #define Proc_format \ - "%5d %-16.16s%3d%3d%7s %6s %-6.6s%1x%7s %5.2f%% %5.2f%% %.6s" + "%5d %-10.10s%3d%3d%7s %6s %-6.6s%1x%7s %5.2f%% %5.2f%% %.6s" #else /* Standard kernel */ static char header[] = - " PID X PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND"; + " PID X PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND"; /* 0123456 -- field to fill in starts at header+6 */ #define UNAME_START 6 #define Proc_format \ - "%5d %-16.16s%3d %3d%7s %6s %-6.6s%7s %5.2f%% %5.2f%% %.6s" + "%5d %-10.10s%3d %3d%7s %6s %-6.6s%7s %5.2f%% %5.2f%% %.6s" #endif -- Wolfram Schneider http://www.apfel.de/~wosch/ From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 5 04:10:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA03031 for current-outgoing; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 04:10:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lsd.relcom.eu.net (lsd.relcom.eu.net [193.124.23.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA03025 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 04:10:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ache@localhost) by lsd.relcom.eu.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) id PAA27936; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 15:10:35 +0400 (MSD) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 15:10:35 +0400 (MSD) From: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= X-Sender: ache@lsd.relcom.eu.net To: Wolfram Schneider cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: long usernames in top In-Reply-To: <199707051001.MAA00736@panke.panke.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 5 Jul 1997, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > Here is a workaround. Top should print only the first 10 > characters. If the username is longer than 10 characters, the > 10th character will be replaces with an asterisk ('*'). An other > alternative would be to use the uid instead the long username. It is not workaround but hack. You silently assume that all characters above 10 is not sufficient which is not true in general case. Why not replace by '*' _first_ 10 characters instead :-) Top must do the same thing as ps does, i.e. calculate max length of user name and align outbut with this value. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 5 04:14:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA03108 for current-outgoing; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 04:14:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from piggy.kharkiv.net (piggy.kharkiv.net [194.44.156.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA03023 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 04:10:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from news@localhost) by piggy.kharkiv.net (8.8.5/8.8.4) id KAA19080 for dev.null; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 10:30:20 +0300 (EET DST) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: is fingerd broken Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 07:24:29 +0000 Message-ID: <33BDF6AD.59E2B600@kharkiv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE i386) X-Via: News-To-Mail v1.0 From: Maxim Master Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > That's sounds like the problem.If i reboot it works but after awhile > no. > How do i change the max proc limit ? > Thanks Manfred > |==============================| > | mantar@netcom.com | > | Ph. (415) 681-6235 | > |==============================| Increase the variable "maxusers" in your kernel config and rebuild it. Maximum number of processes calculated by formula: maxusers * 16 + 20 (refer to /usr/src/sys/conf/param.c) -- With best regards ####################################### # Maxim V. Shchetinin aka Maxim Master # Client/Server Application Programmer # UNIX System Programer & Administrator ####################################### # Home: http://www.kharkiv.com/~master/ # Talk: master@galaxy.kharkiv.com # Mail: master@kharkiv.com ####################################### ******************************************************************** ~NewsGate~ (c) Vladimir Litovka From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 5 04:34:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA03497 for current-outgoing; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 04:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from labs.usn.blaze.net.au (labs.usn.blaze.net.au [203.17.53.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA03488 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 04:34:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from labs.usn.blaze.net.au (local [127.0.0.1]) by labs.usn.blaze.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA01367; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 21:34:06 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199707051134.VAA01367@labs.usn.blaze.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Wolfram Schneider cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: long usernames in top In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 05 Jul 1997 12:01:32 +0200." <199707051001.MAA00736@panke.panke.de> X-Face: (W@z~5kg?"+5?!2kHP)+l369.~a@oTl^8l87|/s8"EH?Uk~P#N+Ec~Z&@;'LL!;3?y Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 21:34:04 +1000 From: David Nugent Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > The long usernames in top(1) looks not well. In most cases > the usernames are less than 8 chars. Top reserves 16 chars > for the username in the output string. Yes, unnecessarily wasted space. > Here is a workaround. Top should print only the first 10 > characters. If the username is longer than 10 characters, the > 10th character will be replaces with an asterisk ('*'). Yuck, yuck, yuck. int getmaxnamelen(void) { int maxnamelen = 8; struct passwd *pw; setpwent(); while ((pw=getpwent()) != NULL) { if (pw->pw_name) { int nlen = strlen(pw->pw_name; if (nlen > maxnamelen) maxnamelen = nlen; } } endpwent(); return maxnamelen > SOME_MAX_VALUE ? SOME_MAX_VALUE : maxnamelen; } Use this to determine the maximum name. 8 is an obvious minimum, and do this at startup. If larger names are added while top is running, well, tough, they get truncated which is no big deal. I've had this on my todo list for a while since this was last discussed here, but haven't had much time of late to do much. Note that this will also work with 2.2 systems, or in fact any system, so the patch could (and should) be sent to the author. Sitting the length at some arbitrary small value is silly. Regards, David -- David Nugent - Unique Computing Pty Ltd - Melbourne, Australia Voice +61-3-9791-9547 Data/BBS +61-3-9792-3507 3:632/348@fidonet davidn@freebsd.org davidn@blaze.net.au http://www.blaze.net.au/~davidn/ From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 5 05:15:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA04285 for current-outgoing; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 05:15:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsd.fs.bauing.th-darmstadt.de (bsd.fs.bauing.th-darmstadt.de [130.83.63.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA04280 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 05:15:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panke.panke.de (anonymous213.ppp.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.213]) by bsd.fs.bauing.th-darmstadt.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27138; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 14:15:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by panke.panke.de (8.8.5/8.6.12) id OAA01662; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 14:13:34 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 14:13:34 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199707051213.OAA01662@panke.panke.de> From: Wolfram Schneider To: David Nugent Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: long usernames in top In-Reply-To: <199707051134.VAA01367@labs.usn.blaze.net.au> References: <199707051001.MAA00736@panke.panke.de> <199707051134.VAA01367@labs.usn.blaze.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk David Nugent writes: >> Here is a workaround. Top should print only the first 10 >> characters. If the username is longer than 10 characters, the >> 10th character will be replaces with an asterisk ('*'). > >Yuck, yuck, yuck. > >int getmaxnamelen(void) >{ > int maxnamelen = 8; > struct passwd *pw; > > setpwent(); > while ((pw=getpwent()) != NULL) { > if (pw->pw_name) { > int nlen = strlen(pw->pw_name; > if (nlen > maxnamelen) > maxnamelen = nlen; > } > } > endpwent(); > return maxnamelen > SOME_MAX_VALUE ? SOME_MAX_VALUE : maxnamelen; >} > >Use this to determine the maximum name. 8 is an obvious minimum, and >do this at startup. If larger names are added while top is running, >well, tough, they get truncated which is no big deal. Reading the whole password database is an overkill. Your NIS admin will kill you ... think about environments with more than 5000 users. >Sitting the length at some arbitrary small value is silly. This may work for short usernames. But if someone use 32 or 64 character long usernames you must cut the name (or use the uid instead the username). -- Wolfram Schneider http://www.apfel.de/~wosch/ From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 5 05:17:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA04345 for current-outgoing; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 05:17:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nagual.pp.ru (ache.relcom.ru [194.58.229.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA04340 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 05:17:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.8.6/8.8.5) id QAA00551; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 16:16:43 +0400 (MSD) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 16:16:38 +0400 (MSD) From: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= To: David Nugent cc: Wolfram Schneider , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: long usernames in top In-Reply-To: <199707051134.VAA01367@labs.usn.blaze.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 5 Jul 1997, David Nugent wrote: > int getmaxnamelen(void) > { > int maxnamelen = 8; > struct passwd *pw; > > Use this to determine the maximum name. 8 is an obvious minimum, and > do this at startup. If larger names are added while top is running, > well, tough, they get truncated which is no big deal. Better variant will be to calculate maxnamelen at runtime through displayed names only, not through all names from /etc/passwd Otherwise you'll get wide output even if only one long user name present in your /etc/passwd (even this userid is never really used). -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 5 10:27:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA11879 for current-outgoing; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 10:27:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from labs.usn.blaze.net.au (labs.usn.blaze.net.au [203.17.53.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11874 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 10:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from labs.usn.blaze.net.au (local [127.0.0.1]) by labs.usn.blaze.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA03838; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 03:27:31 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199707051727.DAA03838@labs.usn.blaze.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= cc: Wolfram Schneider , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: long usernames in top In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 05 Jul 1997 16:16:38 +0400." X-Face: (W@z~5kg?"+5?!2kHP)+l369.~a@oTl^8l87|/s8"EH?Uk~P#N+Ec~Z&@;'LL!;3?y Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 03:27:28 +1000 From: David Nugent Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Use this to determine the maximum name. 8 is an obvious minimum, and > > do this at startup. If larger names are added while top is running, > > well, tough, they get truncated which is no big deal. > > Better variant will be to calculate maxnamelen at runtime through > displayed names only, not through all names from /etc/passwd Very true. Does top use pwcache? (I guess not since top is written for os's that don't have it, but you never know :)). > Otherwise you'll get wide output even if only one long user name present > in your /etc/passwd (even this userid is never really used). Yes. Regards, David -- David Nugent - Unique Computing Pty Ltd - Melbourne, Australia Voice +61-3-9791-9547 Data/BBS +61-3-9792-3507 3:632/348@fidonet davidn@freebsd.org davidn@blaze.net.au http://www.blaze.net.au/~davidn/ From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 5 11:44:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA15152 for current-outgoing; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 11:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA15147 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 11:44:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA14837; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 11:39:19 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199707051839.LAA14837@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: long usernames in top To: ache@nagual.pp.ru (=?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?=) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 11:39:19 -0700 (MST) Cc: davidn@labs.usn.blaze.net.au, wosch@apfel.de, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "=?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?=" at Jul 5, 97 04:16:38 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [ ... go through entire passwd database ... ] > > Use this to determine the maximum name. 8 is an obvious minimum, and > > do this at startup. If larger names are added while top is running, > > well, tough, they get truncated which is no big deal. > > Better variant will be to calculate maxnamelen at runtime through > displayed names only, not through all names from /etc/passwd Yes. This is what I did for "ps" and "w". The annoying thing about top is that the name data is potentially variant on each refresh. Plus the thing is being actively maintained by an agency other than FreeBSD, so unless the job was done completely, it's likely that it would become a FreeBSD-only maintenance nightmare. > Otherwise you'll get wide output even if only one long user name present > in your /etc/passwd (even this userid is never really used). Plus you will get hammered on the large databases (as has already been mentioned). It's not so annoying that you are hitting all the entries as it is that it takes so long to do it, and you get the wrong runtime answer after all that effort anyway. Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 5 15:31:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA22958 for current-outgoing; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 15:31:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsd.fs.bauing.th-darmstadt.de (bsd.fs.bauing.th-darmstadt.de [130.83.63.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22950 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 15:31:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panke.panke.de (anonymous220.ppp.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.220]) by bsd.fs.bauing.th-darmstadt.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA09749; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 00:31:16 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by panke.panke.de (8.8.5/8.6.12) id AAA01080; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 00:12:22 +0200 (MET DST) To: Terry Lambert Cc: ache@nagual.pp.ru (=?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?=), davidn@labs.usn.blaze.net.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: long usernames in top References: <199707051839.LAA14837@phaeton.artisoft.com> From: Wolfram Schneider Date: 06 Jul 1997 00:12:18 +0200 In-Reply-To: Terry Lambert's message of Sat, 5 Jul 1997 11:39:19 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: Lines: 18 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert writes: > > Better variant will be to calculate maxnamelen at runtime through > > displayed names only, not through all names from /etc/passwd > > Yes. This is what I did for "ps" and "w". The annoying thing > about top is that the name data is potentially variant on each > refresh. Plus the thing is being actively maintained by an agency > other than FreeBSD, so unless the job was done completely, it's > likely that it would become a FreeBSD-only maintenance nightmare. Absolutely correct. My 7 line patch did not fix the problem, but makes the life for 99% of the users easier. How many systems have usernames longer than 10 characters? -- Wolfram Schneider http://www.apfel.de/~wosch/ From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 5 16:19:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA24367 for current-outgoing; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 16:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lsd.relcom.eu.net (lsd.relcom.eu.net [193.124.23.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA24359 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 16:19:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ache@localhost) by lsd.relcom.eu.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) id DAA05616; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 03:19:12 +0400 (MSD) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 03:19:12 +0400 (MSD) From: =?KOI8-R?B?4c7E0sXKIP7F0s7P1w==?= X-Sender: ache@lsd.relcom.eu.net To: Wolfram Schneider cc: Terry Lambert , davidn@labs.usn.blaze.net.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: long usernames in top In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 6 Jul 1997, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > Terry Lambert writes: > > > Better variant will be to calculate maxnamelen at runtime through > > > displayed names only, not through all names from /etc/passwd > > > > Yes. This is what I did for "ps" and "w". The annoying thing > > about top is that the name data is potentially variant on each > > refresh. Plus the thing is being actively maintained by an agency > > other than FreeBSD, so unless the job was done completely, it's > > likely that it would become a FreeBSD-only maintenance nightmare. > > Absolutely correct. > > My 7 line patch did not fix the problem, but makes the life for 99% > of the users easier. How many systems have usernames longer > than 10 characters? Why add some feature and then disable its support with arguments that nobody uses it? I object this half-dancing solution. We should either return to 8 letters usernames, fix top a la 'ps' manner or don't touch it. In all this cases no inormation lost. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 5 18:00:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA27908 for current-outgoing; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 18:00:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caro.net (root@ns1.caro.NET [206.136.230.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA27892; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 18:00:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pop.caro.net (pm1-4.caro.NET [206.136.230.55]) by caro.net with ESMTP id VAA23240; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 21:03:36 -0400 Message-Id: <199707060103.VAA23240@caro.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0delta 6/3/97 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Ed Sweeney Subject: stat_flags.c stops make world Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 21:00:22 -0400 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I cvsup'd a new stat_flags.c in bin/ls on Jul 4. Tracking 2_2. Make world ends with: mkdep -f .depend -a /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c /usr/ src/usr.bin/xinstall/xinstall.c cc -O -c /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c: In function `flags_to_strin g': /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:72: `UF_NOUNLINK' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/src/usr.bin/xinstall/../../bin/ls/stat_flags.c:72: (Each undeclared identif Thanks. ps. Stupid question: Is 2_2_stable to be reported to freebsd-stable (ususally 2.1.8 stuff) or to freebsd-current now? -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ed Sweeney - Charlotte, NC mail:edsweeney@caro.net http://www.caro.net~edswee From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 5 19:06:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA29749 for current-outgoing; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 19:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caro.net (root@ns1.caro.NET [206.136.230.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29730; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 19:06:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pop.caro.net (pm1-28.caro.NET [206.136.230.79]) by caro.net with ESMTP id WAA23605; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 22:09:26 -0400 Message-Id: <199707060209.WAA23605@caro.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0delta 6/3/97 To: Julian Elischer Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Ed Sweeney Subject: Re: stat_flags.c stops make world In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 05 Jul 1997 18:48:17 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 22:06:11 -0400 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > UF_NOUNLINK is defined > > it's picking up an old one somewhere.. > (usr/include/sys?) > check /sys/sys/stat.h > you'll see it IS in there. > Thanks! Old one in /usr/include/sys was the problem. From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jul 5 23:13:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA09111 for current-outgoing; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 23:13:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soleil.uvsq.fr (soleil.uvsq.fr [193.51.24.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA09102 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 23:13:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arts.ratp.fr (arts.ratp.fr [193.106.40.1]) by soleil.uvsq.fr (8.8.6/jtpda-5.2) with ESMTP id IAA06524 ; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 08:13:10 +0200 (METDST) Received: by arts.ratp.fr id IAA02734 ; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 08:13:07 +0200 (DST) Received: from minos.noisy.ratp by arts.ratp.fr with SMTP id SAA002732 for ; Sun Jul 6 08:12:48 1997 Received: from fugue.noisy.ratp (taillandier.rtc.ratp [192.25.83.123]) by minos.noisy.ratp with ESMTP id IAA01100 ; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 08:12:46 +0200 (DST) Received: by fugue.noisy.ratp id IAA00403 ; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 08:11:44 +0200 (DST) From: Janick.Taillandier@ratp.fr (Janick Taillandier) Message-ID: <19970706081144.27908@fugue.noisy.ratp> Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 08:11:44 +0200 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Problem with worm in current Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76e Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have just bought a Philips CDD2600 worm and was planning to use it in a machine running current (current from yesterday). The drive is recognized : |Jul 5 22:19:02 chaconne /kernel: ncr0: rev 0x02 int a irq 18 on pci1.10.0 |Jul 5 22:19:02 chaconne /kernel: ncr0: waiting for scsi devices to settle |Jul 5 22:19:02 chaconne /kernel: scbus1 at ncr0 bus 0 |Jul 5 22:19:02 chaconne /kernel: worm0 at scbus1 target 1 lun 0 |Jul 5 22:19:02 chaconne /kernel: worm0: type 5 removable SCSI 2 |Jul 5 22:19:02 chaconne /kernel: worm0: Write-Once But when I am trying to burn a CD I get these messages : |Jul 5 23:02:25 chaconne /kernel: worm0: ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:82,0 Vendor Specific ASC |Jul 5 23:02:25 chaconne /kernel: worm0: ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:2c,0 Command sequence error |Jul 5 23:02:26 chaconne /kernel: worm0: error code 1 |Jul 5 23:02:26 chaconne /kernel: worm0: ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:2c,0 Command sequence error |Jul 5 23:02:26 chaconne /kernel: worm0: ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:82,0 Vendor Specific ASC |Jul 5 23:02:26 chaconne /kernel: worm0: error code 1 |Jul 5 23:02:27 chaconne /kernel: worm0: ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:82,0 Vendor Specific ASC |Jul 5 23:02:27 chaconne /kernel: worm0: error code 1 |Jul 5 23:02:43 chaconne last message repeated 34 times |Jul 5 23:02:44 chaconne /kernel: worm0: ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:82,0 Vendor Specific ASC |Jul 5 23:02:44 chaconne /kernel: worm0: ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:2c,0 Command sequence error |Jul 5 23:02:45 chaconne /kernel: worm0: ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:82,0 Vendor Specific ASC |Jul 5 23:02:45 chaconne /kernel: worm0: ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:2c,0 Command sequence error |Jul 5 23:06:28 chaconne /kernel: worm0: ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:82,0 Vendor Specific ASC etc... Searching freebsd-current mail archive, I have found a message from Adam W. Hawks reporting the same problem. Unfortunately, I didn't see any solution in the replies. What is the status of this problem ? Do I need to return to 2.2.2 ? Thanks for your help, Janick Taillandier