From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 18 04:47:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA25579 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 18 May 1997 04:47:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.cdrom.com [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA25574 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 04:47:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sand.sentex.ca (sand.sentex.ca [206.222.77.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA07644 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 04:47:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gravel (gravel.sentex.ca [205.211.165.210]) by sand.sentex.ca (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id HAA01253; Sun, 18 May 1997 07:52:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970518075056.00a369a0@sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@sentex.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 07:50:56 -0400 To: Eddie Fry , isp@freebsd.com From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Livingston vs. USR In-Reply-To: <337EB648.7E77@eaznet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 12:56 AM 5/18/97 -0700, Eddie Fry wrote: >Hey, > >We're currently looking into a USR Total Control. I can't seem to find >a decent "wholesale" vendor for Livingston. The retail cost of a Total >Control ISP Bundle with T-1 card, 24 modem ports, SW, etc is 21,780. I >can get it much cheaper than that from Tech Data and Anixter. Where are >the best deals for Livingston? None of my vendors (I also operate a >network consulting business) seem to carry them.:( Get it directly from Livingston... ---Mike ********************************************************************** Mike Tancsa (mike@sentex.net) * To do is to be -- Nietzsche Sentex Communications Corp, * To be is to do -- Sartre Cambridge, Ontario * Do be do be do -- Sinatra (http://www.sentex.net/~mdtancsa) * From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 18 09:11:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA02253 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 18 May 1997 09:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gds.de (ns.gds.de [194.77.222.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02248 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 09:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host.plusline.de (pluto.gds.de [194.77.222.13]) by gds.de (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA11713 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 18:10:53 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970518180903.006ce0c8@mail.ww.plusline.de> X-Sender: richard@mail.ww.plusline.de X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 18:09:03 +0200 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Richard Gresek Subject: kerberos Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id JAA02249 Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hallo, I am trying to make kerberos run on our system. I have done the steps as read in the FreeBSD-Documentation (6.3. Kerberos). All stepps went fine up to testing ;-((. Now, when I type "kinit richard", the following message appears: #========================= news {102} # kinit richard MIT Project Athena (news.plusline.de) Kerberos Initialization for "richard" kinit: Retry count exceeded (send_to_kdc) #========================= The log-file shows: #========================= 18-May-97 18:08:25 Initial ticket request Host: 194.231.79.3 User: "richard" "" 18-May-97 18:08:25 Initial ticket request Host: 194.231.79.3 User: "richard" "" 18-May-97 18:08:25 Initial ticket request Host: 194.231.79.3 User: "richard" "" 18-May-97 18:08:25 Initial ticket request Host: 194.231.79.3 User: "richard" "" 18-May-97 18:08:25 Initial ticket request Host: 194.231.79.3 User: "richard" "" 18-May-97 18:08:25 Initial ticket request Host: 194.231.79.3 User: "richard" "" #========================= What´s wrong? Which debugging posibilities do I have? Thanks in advance Richard From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 18 12:11:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA07435 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 18 May 1997 12:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Wicked.eaznet.com ([206.62.254.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07428 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 12:11:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eddie ([206.62.254.29]) by Wicked.eaznet.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA11734; Sun, 18 May 1997 12:14:36 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <337FF4DF.3D2C@eaznet.com> Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 23:36:15 -0700 From: Eddie Fry Organization: Creative Solutions X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Hodges , isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Livingston vs. USR References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanks all! I found all the info I needed! Looks like we'll probably go with the PM3 direct from Livingston and join the ISPC for the additional discount. I didn't know anything about the ISPC. Are there any other groups/organizations I should know about? Thanks again, Eddie Richard Hodges wrote: > > On Sun, 18 May 1997, Eddie Fry wrote: > > > We're currently looking into a USR Total Control. I can't seem to find > > a decent "wholesale" vendor for Livingston. The retail cost of a Total > > Control ISP Bundle with T-1 card, 24 modem ports, SW, etc is 21,780. I > > can get it much cheaper than that from Tech Data and Anixter. Where are > > the best deals for Livingston? None of my vendors (I also operate a > > network consulting business) seem to carry them.:( > > Why bother looking for a "wholesale" price? Livingston will > sell you a Portmaster 3 with 1 PRI & 24 digital modems for $9500. > Or get the 2 PRI model with 48 digital modems for $17000... > > You can use the ports for both 33.6 (free 56k upgrade) and ISDN. > If you join the ISP/C, you save about another 5% off the price. > > see: www.livingston.com/Marketing/Products/ispprice.shtml > www.ispc.org > > All the best, > > -Richard From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 18 12:45:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA08886 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 18 May 1997 12:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from radford.i-plus.net (root@Radford.i-Plus.net [206.99.237.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08879 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 12:45:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abyss (pitlord@Abyss.i-Plus.net [206.99.237.44]) by radford.i-plus.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA26887; Sun, 18 May 1997 15:43:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705181943.PAA26887@radford.i-plus.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.0544.0 From: "Troy Settle" To: , "Eddie Fry" Subject: Other Lists Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 15:46:19 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.0544.0 Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Eddie: There's quite a bit of discussion on the inet-access list. Since it appears that you're entering into the ISP business, you might be interested in following it. Send subscribe to inet-access-request@ear th.com Also, incase you haven't seen it yet, there's a good ISP FAQ at http://www.amazing.com. AFAIK, David hasn't actually run an ISP, but has been keeping a close watch on the business for quite some time. His FAQ comes with very high ratings from many people in the ISP business. Good luck, -- Troy Settle Network Administrator, iPlus Internet Services http://www.i-Plus.net ---- From: Eddie Fry To: Richard Hodges ; isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sunday, May 18, 1997 3:30 PM Subject: Re: Livingston vs. USR >Thanks all! I found all the info I needed! Looks like we'll probably >go with the PM3 direct from Livingston and join the ISPC for the >additional discount. I didn't know anything about the ISPC. Are there >any other groups/organizations I should know about? > >Thanks again, > >Eddie > >Richard Hodges wrote: >> >> On Sun, 18 May 1997, Eddie Fry wrote: >> >> > We're currently looking into a USR Total Control. I can't seem to find >> > a decent "wholesale" vendor for Livingston. The retail cost of a Total >> > Control ISP Bundle with T-1 card, 24 modem ports, SW, etc is 21,780. I >> > can get it much cheaper than that from Tech Data and Anixter. Where are >> > the best deals for Livingston? None of my vendors (I also operate a >> > network consulting business) seem to carry them.:( >> >> Why bother looking for a "wholesale" price? Livingston will >> sell you a Portmaster 3 with 1 PRI & 24 digital modems for $9500. >> Or get the 2 PRI model with 48 digital modems for $17000... >> >> You can use the ports for both 33.6 (free 56k upgrade) and ISDN. >> If you join the ISP/C, you save about another 5% off the price. >> >> see: www.livingston.com/Marketing/Products/ispprice.shtml >> www.ispc.org >> >> All the best, >> >> -Richard > From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 18 15:29:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA18768 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 18 May 1997 15:29:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.cdrom.com [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18763 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 15:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA10978 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 15:29:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (shovey@buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA14505 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 18:29:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 18:29:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve To: isp@freebsd.com Subject: Re: Livingston vs. USR (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I use the whytehaus - 219-485-5402 Barb is the saleperson I use and she is preety good about finding what I need etc. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 01:47:36 -0400 From: Troy Settle To: isp@freebsd.com, Eddie Fry Subject: Re: Livingston vs. USR From: Eddie Fry >Hey, > >We're currently looking into a USR Total Control. I can't seem to find >a decent "wholesale" vendor for Livingston. The retail cost of a Total >Control ISP Bundle with T-1 card, 24 modem ports, SW, etc is 21,780. I >can get it much cheaper than that from Tech Data and Anixter. Where are >the best deals for Livingston? None of my vendors (I also operate a >network consulting business) seem to carry them.:( > >Thanks for any info. > >Eddie From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 18 19:30:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA26992 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 18 May 1997 19:30:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cbiowa.com (root@mail.cbiowa.com [204.26.81.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA26987 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 19:30:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from myhome (root@dialup0.cbiowa.com [204.26.81.100]) by mail.cbiowa.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA13656 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 21:30:09 -0500 Message-ID: <337FBAFC.4419B3D@cbiowa.com> Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 21:29:16 -0500 From: Brian Weber Organization: Partners In Computing X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3C (X11; I; Linux 2.0.27 i486) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd Subject: New 'B' question X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have been using slackware for the past 4 years and I have heard great things about freebsd. I downloaded the distribution to try it out and installed it off scsi tape and after about a week and a half I figured out all the little quarks. Now I am trying to figure out ppp using pap. I have searched the digests on the web and from what I read this should be easier than making ice? Seeings how I don't have the recipe for ice I haven't given that as hard a try! If somebody could send me there ppp.conf file, I am trying to connect via pap to an NT 4.0 server using FreeBSD 2.2.1 One more question. How do you add another selection to the boot mgr. I have F1 for BSD and on one of my installs in the past I have had F2 for DOS but I cannot seem to get that back anymore. Is thier a configuration file that you need to edit or something. Thanks for you patience and hopefully I will progress to be able to answer some questions some day also. Thanks Brian Weber http://home.cbiowa.com Partners In Computing From owner-freebsd-isp Sun May 18 22:41:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA04160 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 18 May 1997 22:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phil.digitaladvantage.net (phil.digitaladvantage.net [207.40.157.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA04155 for ; Sun, 18 May 1997 22:41:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stoney.zeeb.mpls.mn.us (spliffman@stoney.zeeb.mpls.mn.us [208.18.129.16]) by phil.digitaladvantage.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA13499 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 00:37:02 -0500 (CDT) From: rpanula@dacmail.net (Russ Panula) To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: radius, usr total control and freebsd Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 00:50:47 -0600 Organization: Digital Advantage Corporation Reply-To: rpanula@dacmail.net Message-ID: <337ff6ac.74168368@mail.digitaladvantage.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99f/32.299 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id WAA04156 Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 16 May 1997, Robert Heron wrote: > > >On Thu, 15 May 1997, spork wrote: > >> If anyone has info on Radius and USR Total Control, I'd love to hear from >> them as well... We just bought a whole bunch of these, and I hate the >> thought of buying a Sparc or NT (yechhhh) machine to run the USR modded >> Radius. > >I have exactly the same problem. We've bought USR Total Control Hub and >would like to manage user's accounts via radius. I've heard from the compay >that had installed our TCH that the only radius server working with USR TCH >is the one from USR. They tried some radius server under Linux, but it didn't >work properly. It really would be very nice to have radius under FreeBSD for >USR TCH and other UNIX systems. I've got a TCH talking to Livingston Radius 1.16 running on a FreeBSD box.. Old, but it works. I think all I did was add some values to the dictionary file. It wasn't that hard...definately not as painful as this thread seems to make the box out to be. I actually (gasp) sorta enjoy working with the box. ..Russ From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 19 05:29:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA18291 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 19 May 1997 05:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA18284 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 05:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (shovey@buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA19482; Mon, 19 May 1997 08:29:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 08:29:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve To: Russ Panula cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: radius, usr total control and freebsd In-Reply-To: <337ff6ac.74168368@mail.digitaladvantage.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I've got a TCH talking to Livingston Radius 1.16 running on a FreeBSD > box.. Old, but it works. > > I think all I did was add some values to the dictionary file. It > wasn't that hard...definately not as painful as this thread seems to > make the box out to be. I actually (gasp) sorta enjoy working with > the box. > > ..Russ > My problem with the box was not the box - it was USR policies. You buy a box with X2. You get a box without control software and without X2. You have to fill in an mail or fax a form and your invoice - assuming you can push your vendor into cutting an invoice timely, then you have to dig thru a maze of web pages to find a form to set up a web account, you then wait days for an approval so that you can wade thru the web pages again, to put in your information, to get the information you then need to wade thru some more web pages, to generate a key to enable X2 on the box. Then you can fish around for the control software and download that. So the problem is not the box - its the policy. From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 19 07:36:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA24514 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 19 May 1997 07:36:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay7.UU.NET (relay7.UU.NET [192.48.96.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24505 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 07:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from infocom.kharkov.ua by relay7.UU.NET with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: infocom.kharkov.ua [193.124.78.65]) id QQcqfi17101; Mon, 19 May 1997 10:35:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from axl@localhost) by infocom.kharkov.ua (8.8.5/8.8.4) id RAA25479 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 19 May 1997 17:27:07 +0300 (EET DST) From: "Dmitry A.Deineka" Message-Id: <199705191427.RAA25479@infocom.kharkov.ua> Subject: D-Link 530 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 17:27:07 +0300 (EET DST) Dont-Return-Receipt-To: axl@itl.net.ua Reply-To: axl@itl.net.ua X-Flames-To: /dev/null X-URL: http://www.itl.net.ua/~axl X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Does FreeBSD 2.2 supports D-Link PCI Ethernet DE-530CT ? Thanks. -- Dmitry From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 19 07:39:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA24795 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 19 May 1997 07:39:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.denverweb.net (root@usr1-dialup51.Denver.mci.net [204.189.201.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24781 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 07:39:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion (blaine@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.denverweb.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA09171 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 08:59:57 -0600 Message-ID: <33806AEB.557D9B86@denverweb.net> Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 08:59:55 -0600 From: Blaine Minazzi Organization: What, me organized? X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.27 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@freeBSD.org Subject: Re: radius, usr total control and freebsd References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Steve wrote: > > My problem with the box was not the box - it was USR policies. You buy a > box with X2. You get a box without control software and without X2. You > have to fill in an mail or fax a form and your invoice - assuming you can > push your vendor into cutting an invoice timely, then you have to dig thru > a maze of web pages to find a form to set up a web account, you then wait > days for an approval so that you can wade thru the web pages again, to put > in your information, to get the information you then need to wade thru > some more web pages, to generate a key to enable X2 on the box. Then you > can fish around for the control software and download that. > > So the problem is not the box - its the policy. The funny thing is, that this process actually make sense to someone at USR... Someone had to actually think this up and implement it. To them, it is most likey a "simple" process, and they can not comprehend why you are having a problem with it. Which proves once again, that the difference between genius and stupidity is, genius has it's limits. Blaine From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 19 07:59:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA26022 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 19 May 1997 07:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.cdrom.com [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA26016 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 07:59:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from commlitho.com (thor.commlitho.com [207.254.73.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA16179 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 07:59:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705191459.HAA16179@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: from [207.254.73.18] by commlitho.com (SMTPD32-3.02) id AAB0FB7014C; Mon, 19 May 1997 07:58:56 -0700 From: "Patrick Burm" To: "Eddie Fry" , Subject: Re: Livingston vs. USR Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 07:59:43 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1160 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Have you tried talking to livingston directly? I believe a PM3 will cost significantly less than what you describe. They have a website and an 800 number. > We're currently looking into a USR Total Control. I can't seem to find > a decent "wholesale" vendor for Livingston. The retail cost of a Total > Control ISP Bundle with T-1 card, 24 modem ports, SW, etc is 21,780. I > can get it much cheaper than that from Tech Data and Anixter. Where are > the best deals for Livingston? None of my vendors (I also operate a > network consulting business) seem to carry them.:( From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 19 09:48:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA02534 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 19 May 1997 09:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phil.digitaladvantage.net (phil.digitaladvantage.net [207.40.157.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02525 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 09:48:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phil.digitaladvantage.net (phil.digitaladvantage.net [207.40.157.13]) by phil.digitaladvantage.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA18925; Mon, 19 May 1997 11:43:39 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 11:43:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Russ Panula To: Steve cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: radius, usr total control and freebsd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 19 May 1997, Steve wrote: > My problem with the box was not the box - it was USR policies. You buy a > box with X2. You get a box without control software and without X2. You > have to fill in an mail or fax a form and your invoice - assuming you can > push your vendor into cutting an invoice timely, then you have to dig thru > a maze of web pages to find a form to set up a web account, you then wait > days for an approval so that you can wade thru the web pages again, to put > in your information, to get the information you then need to wade thru > some more web pages, to generate a key to enable X2 on the box. Then you > can fish around for the control software and download that. > > So the problem is not the box - its the policy. Agreed. It's a silly approach we solved by hanging the 'this unit is going to be returned in an hour' thing over our vendor's head. They jumped through the hoops for us, and we had an X2 key and the latest software revs fairly quick. Not exactly what I had in mind, but hey, I do like working with the box. ..Russ From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 19 09:57:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA03247 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 19 May 1997 09:57:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03240 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 09:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (shovey@buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA22171; Mon, 19 May 1997 12:57:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 12:57:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve To: Russ Panula cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: radius, usr total control and freebsd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 19 May 1997, Russ Panula wrote: > > > On Mon, 19 May 1997, Steve wrote: > > > My problem with the box was not the box - it was USR policies. You buy a > > box with X2. You get a box without control software and without X2. You > > have to fill in an mail or fax a form and your invoice - assuming you can > > push your vendor into cutting an invoice timely, then you have to dig thru > > a maze of web pages to find a form to set up a web account, you then wait > > days for an approval so that you can wade thru the web pages again, to put > > in your information, to get the information you then need to wade thru > > some more web pages, to generate a key to enable X2 on the box. Then you > > can fish around for the control software and download that. > > > > So the problem is not the box - its the policy. > > Agreed. > > It's a silly approach we solved by hanging the 'this unit is > going to be returned in an hour' thing over our vendor's head. They > jumped through the hoops for us, and we had an X2 key and the latest > software revs fairly quick. > > Not exactly what I had in mind, but hey, I do like working with the box. Well I didnt want to say it - but thats how I got my X2 key - I called and said "Do I start the RMA process with you or the reseller I bought this from". From owner-freebsd-isp Mon May 19 23:04:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA15273 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 19 May 1997 23:04:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pappquds.papp.undp.org (pappquds.papp.undp.org [192.115.229.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA15268 for ; Mon, 19 May 1997 23:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from alsharif@localhost) by pappquds.papp.undp.org (8.8.5/96.03.01.0) id IAA29111; Tue, 20 May 1997 08:03:28 +0300 (IDT) Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 08:03:27 +0300 (IDT) From: "Amjad R. Alsharif" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Apache Virtual Domains In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Folks, I have encountered the following problems with Apache when trying to configure it for an offline Virtual host, and I was wondering if you folks have any suggestions for me. The problems are as follows: 1. I have edited the *.conf files to have them point to /usr/local/Virtual were under Virtual I would creat a Subdirectory for each Virtual Domain, but the server kept on giving me the original local that came with the distribution /usr/local/www/data 2. I have configured ep0 for the second virtual domain(xxx.xxx.xx.2), and I was able to check it via ping and via netstat -nr and netstat -ain were all of them have returned (xxx.xxx.xx.2), but when I try to access the virtual domain www.virtualdomain.com it allways returned xxx.xxx.xx.1 The domain were resolved via /etc/hosts and I have also tried it vi having DNS record running, but neither of them returned .2. 3. How can I access via http the Handbook & FAQ that came with the installation /usr/local/docs/Handbook. The browser would not access it. 4. A FreeBSD Machine that I also currently use crashed due electrical fluctiations and at boot time it gives me **Error in Super Block run Fsck** but when I do nothing happens. Any suggestion on how I can bring the system backup without having to re-install. I hope that I was clear enough with my problem and I would greatly appreciate any help I can get. Thanks and Best regrads Amjad R. Alsharif alsharif@papp.undp.org http://www.papp.undp.org From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 20 00:27:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA19842 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 00:27:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linus.intrastar.net (root@linus.intrastar.net [206.136.25.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA19837 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 00:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fixed.intrastar.net (jakes@fixed.intrastar.net [206.136.25.69]) by linus.intrastar.net (8.8.5/TerraNovaNet) with SMTP id CAA01938; Tue, 20 May 1997 02:26:55 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970520022920.006d0104@linus.intrastar.net> X-Sender: jsuter@linus.intrastar.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 02:29:20 -0500 To: "Amjad R. Alsharif" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Jacob Suter Subject: Re: Apache Virtual Domains In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I have encountered the following problems with Apache when trying to >configure it for an offline Virtual host, and I was wondering if you >folks have any suggestions for me. The problems are as follows: > >1. I have edited the *.conf files to have them point to > /usr/local/Virtual were under Virtual I would creat a Subdirectory > for each Virtual Domain, but the server kept on giving me the original > local that came with the distribution /usr/local/www/data sounds as if your config is wrong or have apache pointed to get its *.conf's from another directory other than the normal /usr/local/www/conf >2. I have configured ep0 for the second virtual domain(xxx.xxx.xx.2), and I > was able to check it via ping and via netstat -nr and netstat -ain > were all of them have returned (xxx.xxx.xx.2), but when I try to access > the virtual domain www.virtualdomain.com it allways returned xxx.xxx.xx.1 > > The domain were resolved via /etc/hosts and I have also tried it > vi having DNS record running, but neither of them returned .2. See #1 >3. How can I access via http the Handbook & FAQ that came with the > installation /usr/local/docs/Handbook. The browser would not access it. http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html >4. A FreeBSD Machine that I also currently use crashed due electrical > fluctiations and at boot time it gives me **Error in Super Block run > Fsck** but when I do nothing happens. Any suggestion on how I can > bring the system backup without having to re-install. First: buy a UPS... it'll save you thousands in the long run (I'm kinda partial to my deltec's, but anything works really) Second: it all depends.. if the HD is physically damaged or has logic damage, it may be hanging the IDE controller and leaving the system 'hung' indefenetly. I have a drive that does this, no matter what operating system or FS I use. >I hope that I was clear enough with my problem and I would greatly >appreciate any help I can get. I can never stress this enough to people... UPS'es save computers, time, and lots of money in the long run. I've replaced enough spike or long-term-brownout damaged power supplies in my life to know this. I haven't replaced a power supply in well over a year, since we got UPSes... The only thing that even happens is the fan bearings go out and raise hell, but thats easily ignorable since it usually goes away after 5 minutes of being on.. Jacob Suter Intrastellar Internet Service From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 20 02:45:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA25683 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 02:45:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pappquds.papp.undp.org (pappquds.papp.undp.org [192.115.229.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA25675 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 02:45:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from alsharif@localhost) by pappquds.papp.undp.org (8.8.5/96.03.01.0) id LAA00418; Tue, 20 May 1997 11:44:11 +0300 (IDT) Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 11:44:10 +0300 (IDT) From: "Amjad R. Alsharif" To: Jacob Suter cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache Virtual Domains In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970520022920.006d0104@linus.intrastar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 20 May 1997, Jacob Suter wrote: > >I have encountered the following problems with Apache when trying to > >configure it for an offline Virtual host, and I was wondering if you > >folks have any suggestions for me. The problems are as follows: > > > >1. I have edited the *.conf files to have them point to > > /usr/local/Virtual were under Virtual I would creat a Subdirectory > > for each Virtual Domain, but the server kept on giving me the original > > local that came with the distribution /usr/local/www/data > > sounds as if your config is wrong or have apache pointed to get its > *.conf's from another directory other than the normal /usr/local/www/conf How do I check ! and make sure that it reads *.conf files from the directory that I want it to read from..! > >3. How can I access via http the Handbook & FAQ that came with the > > installation /usr/local/docs/Handbook. The browser would not access it. > > http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html I was hoping that I could utilize the ones that come with the installation! Offline, in other words. Best regrads Amjad R. Alsharif alsharif@papp.undp.org http://www.papp.undp.org From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 20 04:35:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA29076 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 04:35:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from surf.pangea.ca (root@surf.pangea.ca [204.112.101.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA29071 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 04:35:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from surf.pangea.ca (tyrelb@surf.pangea.ca [204.112.101.109]) by surf.pangea.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA13555; Tue, 20 May 1997 06:34:47 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 06:34:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Tyrel Burton To: "Amjad R. Alsharif" cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache Virtual Domains In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > 3. How can I access via http the Handbook & FAQ that came with the > installation /usr/local/docs/Handbook. The browser would not access it. Have you installed LYNX? It works great for those documents! My docs are in /usr/share/doc/handbook .. I just type 'lynx handbook_toc.html' and I get them. > 4. A FreeBSD Machine that I also currently use crashed due electrical > fluctiations and at boot time it gives me **Error in Super Block run > Fsck** but when I do nothing happens. Any suggestion on how I can > bring the system backup without having to re-install. Is you system still crashed? What exactly happens? I've installed FreeBSD so many times because the system has crashed, but now I know how to fix 'em! ----- Tyrel Burton tyrelb@pangea.ca "Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names. " - John F. Kennedy From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 20 07:21:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA05360 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 07:21:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.denverweb.net (root@sdn-ts-002coauroP14.dialsprint.net [206.133.160.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA05347 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 07:20:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion (blaine@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.denverweb.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA11468; Tue, 20 May 1997 08:43:49 -0600 Message-ID: <3381B8A5.2B28063@denverweb.net> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 08:43:49 -0600 From: Blaine Minazzi Organization: What, me organized? X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.27 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Amjad R. Alsharif" CC: Jacob Suter , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache Virtual Domains References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I was hoping that I could utilize the ones that come with the installation! > Offline, in other words. I agree... online docs are fine... for day to day stuff. Online install docs, on the other hand, kind of remind me of the time that a vendor sent us software drivers for our tape drive..... on a tape. :-} The worst is online install docs for your O/S. Blaine If people were to sell their brains at time of death, most could advertise "low milage, seldom used"... And someone would buy, considering this to be a great deal! From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 20 08:04:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA07646 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 08:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bmccane.uit.net (bmccane.uit.net [208.129.189.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07635 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 08:03:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bmccane.uit.net (localhost.mccane.com [127.0.0.1]) by bmccane.uit.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20582; Tue, 20 May 1997 10:02:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199705201502.KAA20582@bmccane.uit.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: "Amjad R. Alsharif" Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache Virtual Domains In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 20 May 1997 11:44:10 +0300." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 10:02:18 -0500 From: Wm Brian McCane Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If you use netscape et al., you can use: netscape file://usr/...../htdocs/index.html It works here at least. brian From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 20 08:32:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA08987 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 08:32:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from argus.acpub.duke.edu (argus.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA08981 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 08:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from louis.ourway.com (async249-111.async.duke.edu [152.3.249.111]) by argus.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.3.4) with SMTP id LAA06376; Tue, 20 May 1997 11:31:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970520152346.0070ae98@chem.duke.edu> X-Sender: reese@chem.duke.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 11:23:46 -0400 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Charles Reese Subject: Re: Apache Virtual Domains Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You can just move the offline docs to a directory under your apache document root. I do that and also use a Virtual Host to put stuff in other parts of the directory tree. One thing to watch out for is which httpd.config file is being read. Different version's of FreeBSD seem to put the apache config files in different locations so do a locate and see if there are any copies of httpd.config in unexpected locations. Cheers Charie Reese At 08:43 AM 5/20/97 -0600, you wrote: >> I was hoping that I could utilize the ones that come with the installation! >> Offline, in other words. > >I agree... online docs are fine... for day to day stuff. > >Online install docs, on the other hand, kind of remind me of the time >that a vendor sent us software drivers for our tape drive..... on a >tape. :-} > >The worst is online install docs for your O/S. > > > >Blaine > >If people were to sell their brains at time of death, most could >advertise "low milage, seldom used"... And someone would buy, >considering this to be a great deal! > > ------------------------------------------------------------- Charles E. Reese * * Durham, NC 27710 * Buy Sell Trade CDs * 919-660-1585 * NO MIDDLEMAN * 919-544-7217 * TOTALLY FREE * * http://trader.ourway.com * reese@chem.duke.edu * * ------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 20 09:35:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA12094 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 09:35:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA12064; Tue, 20 May 1997 09:34:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199705201634.JAA12064@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: NS and MX records To: freebsd-isp Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 09:34:57 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jmb (Jonathan M. Bresler) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk the internet is becoming increasingly brittle. NS and MX records for many sites funnel thru a single link, their upstream provider. when their upstream provider fails, the site disappears from the internet. baase all the NS are lost mail bounces immediately. after 30 bounces, or so, i unsubscribe the site. i am asking you cooperate with other sites by providing secondary NS services to other FreeBSD sites in exchange for them providing the same service to you. the first person to volunteer is: Steve Roome. he can be reached at networks@vis.net.uk unless you have a scondary NS that is connected to the net via diferent providers at different pops via separate physical feeds (billy the backhoe wants you ;) you *need* this service ;) jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--4.4BSD Unix for PC clones, source included. http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 20 10:41:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA14945 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 10:41:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linus.intrastar.net (root@linus.intrastar.net [206.136.25.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14940 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 10:41:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fixed.intrastar.net (jakes@fixed.intrastar.net [206.136.25.69]) by linus.intrastar.net (8.8.5/TerraNovaNet) with SMTP id MAA02800; Tue, 20 May 1997 12:40:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970520124248.0068ade0@linus.intrastar.net> X-Sender: jsuter@linus.intrastar.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 12:42:48 -0500 To: "Amjad R. Alsharif" From: Jacob Suter Subject: Re: Apache Virtual Domains Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.32.19970520022920.006d0104@linus.intrastar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> sounds as if your config is wrong or have apache pointed to get its >> *.conf's from another directory other than the normal /usr/local/www/conf > >How do I check ! and make sure that it reads *.conf files from the >directory that I want it to read from..! There is a config.h or something similar in apache (its been a few weeks since I compiled it) that allows you to set all the directory settings. >> >3. How can I access via http the Handbook & FAQ that came with the >> > installation /usr/local/docs/Handbook. The browser would not access it. >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html > >I was hoping that I could utilize the ones that come with the installation! >Offline, in other words. Aaah.. I think lynx will do this: > lynx file://usr/local/doc/whatever/whatever.html --- Jacob H. Suter - System & Network Administrator Intrastellar Internet Service Grapeland, Texas 75844 Voice: (409) 687-9066 http://www.intrastar.net/ From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 20 10:51:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA15515 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 10:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dilbert.iagnet.net (root@dilbert.iagnet.net [207.206.8.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15498; Tue, 20 May 1997 10:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by dilbert.iagnet.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA20274; Tue, 20 May 1997 13:51:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705201751.NAA20274@dilbert.iagnet.net> Subject: News Server SCSI Problems (SUMMARY) To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 13:51:09 -0400 (EDT) RFC_Violation: You saw it here first! From: jamie@dilbert.iagnet.net (Jamie Rishaw) X-PGP-Fingerprint: <921C135D> C4 48 1B 26 18 7B 1F D9 BA C4 9C 7A B1 07 07 E8 Reply-To: jamie@dilbert.iagnet.net Organization: Internet Access Group, Inc. X-No-Archive: yes X-Face: >:-p X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanks to all who replied to my SCSI problems.. If anyone remembers, I was getting hard halts on the box with a lot of LAST-PHASE= and "ahc0 timed out while waiting" errors. I was told that it was a buggy ahc driver.. I upgraded to 2.2-RELENG via cvsup, recompiled and the machine has been up and stable for going on ten days now. (It never exceeded two with the old kernel). Thanks all, Jamie Rishaw Internet Access Group -- jamie g.k. rishaw dal/efnet:gavroche Internet Access Group New Network Operations #: 216.902.5460 Network Operations/TSD http://support.iagnet.net __ [http://www.iagnet.net] DID:216.902.5455 FAX:216.623.3566 \/ 800.637.4IAGx5455 From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 20 11:15:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA16750 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 11:15:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1.ts.kiev.ua (viking.ts.kiev.ua [193.124.229.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16743 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 11:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aviion.ts.kiev.ua by smtp1.ts.kiev.ua with SMTP id VAA10795; (8.8.3/zah/2.1) Tue, 20 May 1997 21:01:11 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from nbki.ipri.kiev.ua by aviion.ts.kiev.ua with ESMTP id SAA24497; (8.6.11/zah/2.1) Tue, 20 May 1997 18:47:56 GMT Received: from cki.ipri.kiev.ua by nbki.ipri.kiev.ua with ESMTP id RAA05610; (8.6.9/zah/1.1) Tue, 20 May 1997 17:19:39 +0100 Received: from 194.44.146.14 (mac.ipri.kiev.ua [194.44.146.14]) by cki.ipri.kiev.ua (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA01922; Tue, 20 May 1997 17:37:15 +0300 (EET DST) Message-ID: <3381A949.3000@cki.ipri.kiev.ua> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 16:38:06 +0300 From: Ruslan Shevchenko Reply-To: rssh@cki.ipri.kiev.ua Organization: IPRI X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nate Williams CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Small office needs more serial lines References: <199705160526.XAA04795@rocky.mt.sri.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nate Williams wrote: > > I'm the jack-of-all-trades for the SRI-Montana office, and we just hired > another person so we're now out of serial lines on our modem bank (we > have 4 in use now). So, that means I got to get one of the multi-serial > solutions everyone has talked about in the past. > > What cards are supported under FreeBSD 2.1.7? I don't want to upgrade > the box because it's been heavily tweaked for local configuration, and I > don't have the time nor the desire to beta-test 2.2 on a box that has > 6-9 month uptimes. > > Also, do I need lots of interrupts? I would have 4 free available (from > the existing 4 ports), but I'm unsure if you need an interrupt/port > (which seems bogus). Any ISPs willing to part with a 8-port board > cheaply? *grin* > MOXA. 8 ports, 2 interrapts. work well during 3 weeks. refer on web page under freebsd.org/commercical vendors / hardware > Nate From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 20 11:37:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA18392 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 11:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ady.warp.starnets.ro (ady.warp.starnets.ro [193.226.124.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA18235; Tue, 20 May 1997 11:35:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ady@localhost) by ady.warp.starnets.ro (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA00468; Tue, 20 May 1997 21:30:11 +0300 (EEST) Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 21:30:10 +0300 (EEST) From: Penisoara Adrian To: Jamie Rishaw cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: News Server SCSI Problems (SUMMARY) In-Reply-To: <199705201751.NAA20274@dilbert.iagnet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi ! On Tue, 20 May 1997, Jamie Rishaw wrote: > Thanks to all who replied to my SCSI problems.. If anyone remembers, I > was getting hard halts on the box with a lot of LAST-PHASE= and > "ahc0 timed out while waiting" errors. > > I was told that it was a buggy ahc driver.. > > I upgraded to 2.2-RELENG via cvsup, recompiled and the machine has been > up and stable for going on ten days now. Does this fix occur in 3.0-current too ? I have the same kind of problem (crashing when there is overload on both SCSI and network subsystems). >From what I know the answer should be yes, because some 2.2-RELENG fixes were taken from 3.0-current; anyway I must be sure on that, next month I'll do a full server upgrade (from zero). Thaks. > > (It never exceeded two with the old kernel). Lucky me, I got 12 days at maximum ! :) > > Thanks all, > > Jamie Rishaw > Internet Access Group > -- > jamie g.k. rishaw dal/efnet:gavroche Internet Access Group > New Network Operations #: 216.902.5460 Network Operations/TSD > http://support.iagnet.net __ [http://www.iagnet.net] > DID:216.902.5455 FAX:216.623.3566 \/ 800.637.4IAGx5455 > Ady (@warp.starnets.ro) From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 20 11:42:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA18677 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 11:42:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA18671; Tue, 20 May 1997 11:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from batie@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA24978; Tue, 20 May 1997 11:42:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan Batie Message-Id: <199705201842.LAA24978@agora.rdrop.com> Subject: Re: NS and MX records To: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG (Jonathan M. Bresler) Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 11:42:21 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-isp@hub.freebsd.org, jmb@hub.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199705201634.JAA12064@hub.freebsd.org> from "Jonathan M. Bresler" at May 20, 97 09:34:57 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > i am asking you cooperate with other sites by providing secondary > NS services to other FreeBSD sites in exchange for them providing > the same service to you. I'm happy to provide secondary services... -- Alan Batie ______ It's not my fault! It's some guy batie@agora.rdrop.com \ / named "General Protection"! +1 503 452-0960 \ / --Ratbert PGP FP: DE 3C 29 17 C0 49 \/ 7A 27 40 A5 3C 37 4A DA 52 B9 It is my policy to avoid purchase of any products from companies which use unrequested email advertisements or telephone solicitation. From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 20 12:16:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA20123 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 12:16:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1.ts.kiev.ua (viking.ts.kiev.ua [193.124.229.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA20078 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 12:15:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aviion.ts.kiev.ua by smtp1.ts.kiev.ua with SMTP id WAA11174; (8.8.3/zah/2.1) Tue, 20 May 1997 22:01:24 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from nbki.ipri.kiev.ua by aviion.ts.kiev.ua with ESMTP id SAA24536; (8.6.11/zah/2.1) Tue, 20 May 1997 18:51:14 GMT Received: from cki.ipri.kiev.ua by nbki.ipri.kiev.ua with ESMTP id RAA05579; (8.6.9/zah/1.1) Tue, 20 May 1997 17:13:02 +0100 Received: from 194.44.146.14 (mac.ipri.kiev.ua [194.44.146.14]) by cki.ipri.kiev.ua (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA01912; Tue, 20 May 1997 17:30:14 +0300 (EET DST) Message-ID: <3381A7A3.6F9C@cki.ipri.kiev.ua> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 16:31:05 +0300 From: Ruslan Shevchenko Reply-To: rssh@cki.ipri.kiev.ua Organization: IPRI X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Victor A. Sudakov" CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mail from different addresses References: <199705141714.BAA01260@vas.tomsk.su> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Victor A. Sudakov wrote: > > Hello. > > I have a question about writing from multiple addresses. > > My machine is known under different names, such as > > vas.tomsk.su (1) > vas.tsu.tomsk.su (2) > vas.obluo.tomsk.su (3) > > All those names are written in /etc/sendmail.cw and I can receive mail > for all those domains just fine. I use uucp. > > The question is, can I setup my system (FreeBSD 2.1.6, sendmail 8.8.5) so > that depending on where I am sending a message, I should have different > "From:" lines in the header? > > For example, if I send a message to questions@freebsd.org, I wish the > address (2) to be in the "From:" field, and if I send a mail to foo@bar.com, > I wish this mail to be from (3). It would be great to have some kind of > table like mailertable, where I could define domains and the corresponding > return address. > > Is this at all possible and if it is, can you please give me a hint how to > implement this? > > If this question is not appropriate in this mailing list, could you kindly > point me to a newsgroup or mailing list where I could ask it. > Intresting. If you receive this problem, please say. about newsgroup: comp.mail.sendmail comp.protocols.sendmail (I can not quik check, is this namer correct, so grep you newsgroups-names on sendmail ) > Thanks a lot. > > -- > Victor Sudakov > http://www.tomsk.su/r/persons/vas.htm From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 20 13:14:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA23087 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 13:14:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23076 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 13:14:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id UAA13099; Tue, 20 May 1997 20:13:56 GMT Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 13:13:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow cc: "Amjad R. Alsharif" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache Virtual Domains In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970520124248.0068ade0@linus.intrastar.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >How do I check ! and make sure that it reads *.conf files from the > >directory that I want it to read from..! Start it up with apache -d /path/to/server/root/ or, if you renamed httpd.conf apache -f /full/path/to/conf.file Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 20 13:47:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA24886 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 13:47:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cruz.isle.net (root@cruz.isle.net [204.140.227.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA24880 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 13:46:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from john (router1port23.isle.net [204.140.227.246]) by cruz.isle.net (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id NAA21019 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 13:46:20 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970520133035.007e5cb0@mail.isle.net> X-Sender: johns@mail.isle.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 13:30:35 -0700 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: John Scharles Subject: Cyclades 16 YeP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've got a Cyclades CYCLOM 16YeP 16 serial port pci card w/DB25 box for sale. I purchased the card last October, and except for a couple hour check out period this card has never been in use. The original purchase price was $499. Make an offer if you're interested. John From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 20 15:30:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA01455 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 15:30:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.denverweb.net (root@sdn-ts-002coauroP14.dialsprint.net [206.133.160.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01449 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 15:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion (blaine@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.denverweb.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA12290 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 16:55:13 -0600 Message-ID: <33822BCF.2768AF9D@denverweb.net> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 16:55:12 -0600 From: Blaine Minazzi Organization: What, me organized? X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.27 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: RAID??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Who, what, where, how... On raid for FreeBSD. I have looked throught the man pages, etc. And seen nothing. Any working ideas / products that are production quality stable at this point? TIA, Blaine From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 20 15:33:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA01588 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 15:33:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01578; Tue, 20 May 1997 15:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA19319; Wed, 21 May 1997 08:32:52 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 08:32:51 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: freebsd-isp@hub.freebsd.org, "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: NS and MX records In-Reply-To: <199705201634.JAA12064@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Excellently said, Jonathan. The slogan for this campaign is: "Even if a site is not reachable, it should be resolvable." I have written a small program which runs as a sendmail "|prog" (same as majordomo). It allows authorised remote hostmasters to update the records of their secondary NS - list, add, delete domains. If people would like to look at it it can be found at: ftp.hilink.com.au:/pub/autodns-1.0.tgz It is a work in progress, and I have ideas for 1.1, but comments are most welcome. The other gripe some hostmasters have is hostmasters who remove a zone from their ns, but don't delete it at the parent zone file. There are ridiculous numbers of lame delegations out there now, and InterNIC sent me a terse message saying effectively, "bugger off!" when I asked them to do something about it. Danny On Tue, 20 May 1997, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > the internet is becoming increasingly brittle. > NS and MX records for many sites funnel thru a single link, > their upstream provider. when their upstream provider fails, > the site disappears from the internet. baase all the NS are > lost mail bounces immediately. after 30 bounces, or so, i unsubscribe > the site. > > i am asking you cooperate with other sites by providing secondary > NS services to other FreeBSD sites in exchange for them providing > the same service to you. > > the first person to volunteer is: Steve Roome. > he can be reached at networks@vis.net.uk > > unless you have a scondary NS that is connected to the net via > diferent providers at different pops via separate physical feeds > (billy the backhoe wants you ;) > > you *need* this service ;) > > jmb > > -- > Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG > FreeBSD--4.4BSD Unix for PC clones, source included. http://www.freebsd.org/ > PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB > From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 20 16:12:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA03684 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 16:12:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03677 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 16:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA19474; Wed, 21 May 1997 09:11:50 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 09:11:49 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Blaine Minazzi cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RAID??? In-Reply-To: <33822BCF.2768AF9D@denverweb.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 20 May 1997, Blaine Minazzi wrote: > Who, what, where, how... On raid for FreeBSD. > > I have looked throught the man pages, etc. And seen nothing. > > Any working ideas / products that are production quality stable at this > point? If you want striping for faster access, ccd(4). ccd(4) is supposed to have a mirror mode, but I have never heard anything about it. Danny From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 20 17:14:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA06123 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 17:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.webspan.net (mail.webspan.net [206.154.70.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06118 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 17:14:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.5]) by mail.webspan.net (WEBSPAN/970116) with ESMTP id UAA24974; Tue, 20 May 1997 20:13:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orion.webspan.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.webspan.net (WEBSPN/970116) with ESMTP id UAA22759; Tue, 20 May 1997 20:13:15 -0400 (EDT) To: "Daniel O'Callaghan" cc: Blaine Minazzi , isp@freebsd.org From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: RAID??? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 21 May 1997 09:11:49 +1000." Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 20:13:15 -0400 Message-ID: <22757.864173595@orion.webspan.net> Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Daniel O'Callaghan" wrote in message ID : > > > On Tue, 20 May 1997, Blaine Minazzi wrote: > > > Who, what, where, how... On raid for FreeBSD. > > > > I have looked throught the man pages, etc. And seen nothing. > > > > Any working ideas / products that are production quality stable at this > > point? > > If you want striping for faster access, ccd(4). ccd(4) is supposed to > have a mirror mode, but I have never heard anything about it. CCD does mirroring and striping quite well, but (as yet) has no support for parity. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 20 18:52:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA09607 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 18:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA09600; Tue, 20 May 1997 18:52:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199705210152.SAA09600@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: NS and MX records To: danny@panda.hilink.com.au (Daniel O'Callaghan) Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 18:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@hub.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Daniel O'Callaghan" at May 21, 97 08:32:51 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Daniel O'Callaghan wrote: > > The slogan for this campaign is: "Even if a site is not reachable, it > should be resolvable." > yes, that's it ! > I have written a small program which runs as a sendmail "|prog" (same as > majordomo). It allows authorised remote hostmasters to update the > records of their secondary NS - list, add, delete domains. > > If people would like to look at it it can be found at: > ftp.hilink.com.au:/pub/autodns-1.0.tgz > > It is a work in progress, and I have ideas for 1.1, but comments are most > welcome. > > The other gripe some hostmasters have is hostmasters who remove a zone > from their ns, but don't delete it at the parent zone file. There are > ridiculous numbers of lame delegations out there now, and InterNIC sent > me a terse message saying effectively, "bugger off!" when I asked them to > do something about it. teh InterNIC is a purely for profit company now owned by SAIC (network solutions inc owned by saic, not the internic function itself) a high officer of nsi and his saic "handler" spoke at a meeting of the washingotn dc branch of the internet society....the upshot was "we are hear to make money, you geeks did a nice job of buidling the net. time to get serious now. all you geeks go the f.... away." they were not well received. this attitude must have contributed to the NSF annoucement that NSI's contract to provide services will not be renewed. jmb From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 20 21:55:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA18222 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 21:55:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pinky.junction.net (pinky.junction.net [199.166.227.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA18217 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 21:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sidhe.memra.com (sidhe.memra.com [199.166.227.105]) by pinky.junction.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA22252 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 21:55:27 -0700 Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by sidhe.memra.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA17393 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 21:49:32 -0700 Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 21:49:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Dillon To: freebsd-isp@hub.freebsd.org Subject: Re: NS and MX records In-Reply-To: <199705201634.JAA12064@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: Organization: Memra Software Inc. - Internet consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 20 May 1997, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > i am asking you cooperate with other sites by providing secondary > NS services to other FreeBSD sites in exchange for them providing > the same service to you. One of the services that the ISP/Consortium http://www.ispc.org offers its members is free secondary nameservice for all the domains that they host. There are currently three ISP/C secondary nameservers, one in Germany and two in the USA. Michael Dillon - Internet & ISP Consulting http://www.memra.com - E-mail: michael@memra.com The bottom line is track record. Not track tearing. Not track derailing. But pounding the damn dirt around the track with the rest of us worms. -- Randy Bush From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 20 22:01:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA18501 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 22:01:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pinky.junction.net (pinky.junction.net [199.166.227.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA18490 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 22:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sidhe.memra.com (sidhe.memra.com [199.166.227.105]) by pinky.junction.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA22362 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 22:01:30 -0700 Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by sidhe.memra.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA17463 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 21:55:35 -0700 Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 21:55:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Dillon To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: GPL'd Billing System Mailing List (fwd) Message-ID: Organization: Memra Software Inc. - Internet consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 16:18:47 -0400 From: Mark Menard To: Multiple recipients of list IAP Subject: GPL'd Billing System Mailing List -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Everyone, After posting last week regarding a GPL'd billing system I have received a number of emails. In response I have set up a majordomo list, quadran@netgoth.com, for discussion and announcements and the like. I would encourage anyone that is interested to get on the list, use majordomo@netgoth.com. Or check out the information at http://www.netgoth.com/~quadran. Thanks to all who responded, Mark Menard ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ mark@capital.net http://www.capital.net MarkX on IRC CapitalNET, PO Box 14345, Albany, NY 12212 800.6000.NET 518.869.4444 linux=gcos Finger account for PGP public key. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBM4IHJyMV5yNCW1qpAQH12wH9H3eZz/QQCvv5od8xUxFEh8A3lJMLCyuk +rtjRy9I7ghbA2vtzAOpt6ZPaWRSIF/kwEud8dKMgaxcFE3Brwt1uQ== =Pbv0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-isp Tue May 20 22:05:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA18670 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 20 May 1997 22:05:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pinky.junction.net (pinky.junction.net [199.166.227.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA18665 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 22:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sidhe.memra.com (sidhe.memra.com [199.166.227.105]) by pinky.junction.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA22441 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 22:05:22 -0700 Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by sidhe.memra.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA17489 for ; Tue, 20 May 1997 21:59:26 -0700 Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 21:59:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Dillon To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RAID??? In-Reply-To: <33822BCF.2768AF9D@denverweb.net> Message-ID: Organization: Memra Software Inc. - Internet consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 20 May 1997, Blaine Minazzi wrote: > Who, what, where, how... On raid for FreeBSD. http://www.tesys.com/raidserver/productlist.shtml Michael Dillon - Internet & ISP Consulting http://www.memra.com - E-mail: michael@memra.com The bottom line is track record. Not track tearing. Not track derailing. But pounding the damn dirt around the track with the rest of us worms. -- Randy Bush From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 21 00:52:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA25831 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 21 May 1997 00:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from firewall.proventum.net (firewall.proventum.dk [194.19.131.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA25822 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 00:52:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from indy4.proventum.net (indy4.proventum.net [192.19.131.143]) by firewall with ESMTP (DuhMail/2.0) id JAA06144; Wed, 21 May 1997 09:12:44 +0200 Received: from localhost by indy4 (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042) id JAA12653; Wed, 21 May 1997 09:50:21 +0200 Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 09:50:20 +0200 (MDT) From: Christoffer Walther To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: News Server SCSI Problems (SUMMARY) In-Reply-To: <199705201751.NAA20274@dilbert.iagnet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I just signed on to this list, I had serious trouble with my new server as well, crashed 2-3 times every week. I sincerely hope the bug in the Adaptec driver has been fixed in the 2.2.2 release :) I got one question: My new server setup is a digital prioris pentium 90mhz, with 3 x 4 giga scisi disk for the news spool, 1 giga for the os and 80mb RAM. At present I got about 4-5 concurrent news clients, but I expect to get about 10 times that sometime near future. Whatkinda setup is needed for that? How much RAM should I calculate for each news client, the server itself etc? I would be happy if some can give me a brief outline of system requirements, since I am pretty new to running a news server. Regards, Christoffer Walther Unix Administrator PROVENTUM cwalther@proventum.net From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 21 02:37:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA00670 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 21 May 1997 02:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kremvax.demos.su (kremvax.demos.su [194.87.0.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA00663 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 02:37:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by kremvax.demos.su (8.6.13/D) from 0@sinbin.demos.su [194.87.0.31] with ESMTP id NAA29591; Wed, 21 May 1997 13:32:44 +0400 Received: by sinbin.demos.su id NAA03902; (8.6.12/D) Wed, 21 May 1997 13:32:32 +0400 From: bag@sinbin.demos.su (Alex G. Bulushev) Message-Id: <199705210932.NAA03902@sinbin.demos.su> Subject: Re: News Server SCSI Problems (SUMMARY) In-Reply-To: from "Christoffer Walther" at "May 21, 97 09:50:20 am" X-ELM-OSV: (Our standard violations) no-mime=1; no-hdr-encoding=1 To: chrw@proventum.net (Christoffer Walther) Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 13:32:32 +0400 (MSD) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hi all, I just signed on to this list, I had serious trouble > with my new server as well, crashed 2-3 times every week. I sincerely > hope the bug in the Adaptec driver has been fixed in the 2.2.2 release :) > > I got one question: My new server setup is a digital prioris pentium > 90mhz, with 3 x 4 giga scisi disk for the news spool, 1 giga for the os > and 80mb RAM. At present I got about 4-5 concurrent news clients, but > I expect to get about 10 times that sometime near future. Whatkinda setup > is needed for that? How much RAM should I calculate for each news client, > the server itself etc? I would be happy if some can give me a brief > outline of system requirements, since I am pretty new to running a > news server. we know about bug in DEC prioris XL using Mercury chipset we use one of this box, and found that PCI dont work properly ... systems reboot's without diagnostic ... specialy when PCI ethernet in use ... fxp0 dont work with Mercury on 100Mbps ... use EISA in this case ... Alex. > > Regards, > > Christoffer Walther > Unix Administrator > PROVENTUM > cwalther@proventum.net > > From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 21 06:14:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA09049 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 21 May 1997 06:14:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obiwan.psinet.net.au (obiwan.psinet.net.au [203.19.28.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA09042; Wed, 21 May 1997 06:14:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (adrian@localhost) by obiwan.psinet.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA02906; Wed, 21 May 1997 20:56:29 +0800 (WST) Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 20:56:29 +0800 (WST) From: Adrian Chadd To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org cc: jmb@hub.freebsd.org Subject: Re: NS and MX records In-Reply-To: <199705201842.LAA24978@agora.rdrop.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 20 May 1997, Alan Batie wrote: > > i am asking you cooperate with other sites by providing secondary > > NS services to other FreeBSD sites in exchange for them providing > > the same service to you. > > I'm happy to provide secondary services... I'm happy providing secondary nameservices for people, however I'll have to register our servers with internic. :) Adrian Chadd From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 21 10:03:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA21197 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:03:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dilbert.iagnet.net (root@dilbert.iagnet.net [207.206.8.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21188; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by dilbert.iagnet.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA09832; Wed, 21 May 1997 13:02:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705211702.NAA09832@dilbert.iagnet.net> Subject: Re: NS and MX records To: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG (Jonathan M. Bresler) Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 13:02:58 -0400 (EDT) Cc: danny@panda.hilink.com.au, jmb@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@hub.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199705210152.SAA09600@hub.freebsd.org> from "Jonathan M. Bresler" at "May 20, 97 06:52:07 pm" RFC_Violation: You saw it here first! From: jamie@dilbert.iagnet.net (Jamie Rishaw) X-PGP-Fingerprint: <921C135D> C4 48 1B 26 18 7B 1F D9 BA C4 9C 7A B1 07 07 E8 Reply-To: jamie@dilbert.iagnet.net Organization: Internet Access Group, Inc. X-No-Archive: yes X-Face: >:-p X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone have this announcement???? I've heard about it, but have yet to see it. > > they were not well received. this attitude must have contributed > to the NSF annoucement that NSI's contract to provide > services will not be renewed. > jmb > -- jamie g.k. rishaw dal/efnet:gavroche Internet Access Group New Network Operations #: 216.902.5460 Network Operations/TSD http://support.iagnet.net __ [http://www.iagnet.net] DID:216.902.5455 FAX:216.623.3566 \/ 800.637.4IAGx5455 From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 21 10:39:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA23168 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:39:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA23146; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:38:59 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199705211738.KAA23146@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: NS and MX records To: jamie@dilbert.iagnet.net Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 10:38:59 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG, danny@panda.hilink.com.au, freebsd-isp@hub.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199705211702.NAA09832@dilbert.iagnet.net> from "Jamie Rishaw" at May 21, 97 01:02:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jamie Rishaw wrote: > > Does anyone have this announcement???? > > I've heard about it, but have yet to see it. i dont have a copy any longer, but it was reported in the business section of the washington post (the paper that broke the watergaet story) and a trade rag called interactive week. the response from nsi was along the lines of "we are keeping .com (and a couple others). they belong to us!" jmb > > > > > they were not well received. this attitude must have contributed > > to the NSF annoucement that NSI's contract to provide > > services will not be renewed. > > jmb From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 21 21:18:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA28921 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 21 May 1997 21:18:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from npc.haplink.co.cn ([202.96.192.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA28916 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 21:18:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from xiyuan@localhost) by npc.haplink.co.cn (8.8.4/8.6.9) id MAA02042; Thu, 22 May 1997 12:20:31 GMT Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 12:20:31 GMT From: xiyuan qian Message-Id: <199705221220.MAA02042@npc.haplink.co.cn> To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: How to manage the ppp dialup? Cc: steve@cioe.com Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, one of my customers setup a ppp dialup to me with FreeBSD box and I can assign a dynamic IP address to his host. Most goes well except the followings: 1. At my customer site, how to manage the ppp dial, I mean, per 2 hour to dial once or dial when needed? When dialup connected, how to disconnect it automaticly if there is nothing transfering? My customer do set the timeout, but it seems not work, so he must kill the ppp process mannually. 2. I really can not assign him a static IP, but he really need his own email address or domain name. How can I do this? Is this possible? Best regaurds! --xiyuan From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 23 05:17:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA16484 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 23 May 1997 05:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from intra.vafibre.com ([205.139.223.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA16473 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 05:17:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jbrown.vafibre.com by intra.vafibre.com (Unoverica 2.11a) id 00000DEC; Fri, 23 May 1997 08:17:35 -0400 Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 08:17:35 -0400 Message-Id: <199705231217.00000DEC@intra.vafibre.com> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: John Brown Subject: Apache Installation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.12 Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I installed Apache from the FreeBSD CD-ROM yesterday on a new server that I am setting up for my ISP. The Installation went great and the program is working but I am having a problem attaching to it from another pc on the same network. It's SLOW. To the point of taking over 2 minutes to bring up a little page with nothing more on it than a Centered Text Line. Can Anyone shed some light on this problem. I can ping the server and get an immediate response but when I try to attach to it via a browser then it is very, VERY, slow!!! Come to think of it when I try to telnet to the 80 port from the actual server it is slow responding also. I don't remember the actual release but it end's with (b7). Thanks From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 23 06:00:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA18792 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 23 May 1997 06:00:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from devsys.jaguNET.com (devsys.jaguNET.com [206.156.208.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA18787 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 06:00:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jim@localhost) by devsys.jaguNET.com (8.8.5/jag-2.4) id IAA24969; Fri, 23 May 1997 08:59:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Jagielski Message-Id: <199705231259.IAA24969@devsys.jaguNET.com> Subject: Re: Apache Installation To: jbrown@vafibre.com (John Brown) Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 08:59:52 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: jim@jaguNET.com In-Reply-To: <199705231217.00000DEC@intra.vafibre.com> from "John Brown" at May 23, 97 08:17:35 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John Brown wrote: > > I installed Apache from the FreeBSD CD-ROM yesterday on a new server > that I am setting up for my ISP. > > The Installation went great and the program is working but I am having a > problem attaching to it from another pc on the same network. It's > SLOW. To the point of taking over 2 minutes to bring up a little page > with nothing more on it than a Centered Text Line. > > Can Anyone shed some light on this problem. I can ping the server and > get an immediate response but when I try to attach to it via a browser > then it is very, VERY, slow!!! > > Come to think of it when I try to telnet to the 80 port from the actual > server it is slow responding also. > > I don't remember the actual release but it end's with (b7). > Hmmm... Do you have DNS setup correctly? It's possible that the problem is due to Apache trying to do a reverse DNS on the connecting client and waiting for that to happen. If you have the status_module compiled in, use that to see if it's in the DNS stage. Also, you could try editing httpd.conf to set hostname-lookups to Off and reHUPing Apache. -- ==================================================================== Jim Jagielski | jaguNET Access Services jim@jaguNET.com | http://www.jaguNET.com/ "Not the Craw... the CRAW!" From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 23 06:18:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA19812 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 23 May 1997 06:18:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nethost1.yars.free.net (nethost1.yars.free.net [193.233.48.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19806 for ; Fri, 23 May 1997 06:18:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hq by nethost1.yars.free.net with UUCP id RAA17602; (8.8.5/vak/1.9) Fri, 23 May 1997 17:10:03 +0400 (MSD) Received: from freebsd.kari.ru by hq.kari.ru with ESMTP id MAA04468; (8.7.5/vak/1.8r) Fri, 23 May 1997 12:50:08 GMT Received: by freebsd.kari.ru id QAA02016; (8.7.5/vak/1.8r) Fri, 23 May 1997 16:33:31 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.4 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 16:12:39 +0400 (MSD) Organization: KARI From: "Yury V. Savin" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problems with RAS by ppp Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We have FreeBSD-2.1.5 with configured user-ppp as server ( as client's shell ppp -direct