From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 16 02:01:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA06803 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 02:01:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from micro.internexus.net (root@internexus.net [206.152.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA06796 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 02:01:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cliff@cliffsworld.com) Received: from c.f.ains (ppp43.internexus.net [206.152.14.234]) by micro.internexus.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA09780 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 00:49:53 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971116050103.00abc420@mail.internexus.net> X-Sender: compatriot@mail.internexus.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 05:01:03 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: cliff ainsworth III Subject: RE: Power In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If you must use an extension cord. Try #10 SJ cord and make your own. Just goto Home Depot or Electrical Supply House and buy everything you need. It will last longer and it will handle just about anything. Just watch out for voltage drop off. It can happen with extension cords over 75 ft long. Especially on 12 gauge or smaller gauges (#14 and #16). When I was a field electrician with the local Ibew 164 on the Hudson River (NJ side) we used make them all the time, as some of our power runs to for tools were really long. If you guys like U.P.S. systems.................. I worked on the one in the U.P.S. at UPS HQ in Mahwah. They had two rooms each with a couple thousand batteries in them to keep the building's computers on-line for 10 seconds while the turbo-charged diesel generators spun up to speed. And when I worked for Lehman Brothers in Leonia (15% of the worlds transactions go through that building). They had 4 twin turbo d-12's (same engine as the earth-movers). When the had to take the building off of city power for three days they parked a fuel tanker truck over the inlet and used two or three of them for the weekend. see ya and good luck. -cliff /=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=\ PGP v5.0 public key "Those of you that renounce this superstitious and hysterical belief in users will be eligible to join the Warrior Elite of the M.C.P." -Tron 1982 \=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=/ From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 16 03:51:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA13460 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 03:51:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from jkh.cdrom.com (jkh.cdrom.com [204.216.27.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA13442 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 03:50:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@jkh.cdrom.com) Received: from jkh.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by jkh.cdrom.com (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA05271 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 03:50:43 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711161150.DAA05271@jkh.cdrom.com> To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Any ISPs in Las Vegas, Nevada who'll take pity on this poor boy? Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 03:50:43 -0800 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm sitting in my motel room at the moment dialed into San Francisco to read my email and I don't think that this is the most practical method for me to stay up to date. ;) If some kind local (to L.V) ISP would be willing to grant me a temporary ppp dialup account (which is all I need - I can do the rest via ssh), I'd really appreciate it. You know how hard it is to do dialup networking via a calling card? ;-) Thanks! Jordan From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 16 06:56:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA24984 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 06:56:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from guardian.fortress.org (fortress.org [199.202.137.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA24949 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 06:56:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@guardian.fortress.org) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by guardian.fortress.org (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA10544; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 09:55:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 09:55:56 -0500 (EST) From: Andrew Webster Reply-To: andrew@pubnix.net To: Dev Chanchani cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Power In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You might want to look into regenerative type UPSes. These don't really care what you feed them because they regenerate the AC at all times. Check out Liebert and Excide for these type of systems. Typically though you will only find this in 3KVA & up models which is what you should be using anyway. On Sat, 15 Nov 1997, Dev Chanchani wrote: > > We had an extended power outage last night. After realizing that our UPS's > would not keep our network up for the black-out, I ran to sears with a > credit card and bought a Craftsman generator. > > My lesson in power began :) > > I was wondering if anyone has been through this and could help me on a > couple of points: > > We have our servers, switches and routers plugged into APS UPS's (600's > and 650's). The UPS's are plugged into surge protectors. The surge > protectors are plugged into 15 AMP 12 guage 100 ft extension coards. We > ran the extension cords (took them out of the wall) and plugged them into > the generator. The 650 UPS could not take it, it was flipping between > generator power and UPS power every second. So... my questions are as > follows: > > 1. Can you plug a UPS -> Surge protector -> generator > 2. Are there any specifics I should look for when planning the power setup > of new servers and racks. > 3. How much output does a genarator need per server (as a rule of thumb)? > 4. Was the UPS switching from internal power to external power because the > generator power was fluctuating, not enough power, etc? > > If anyone has experience with this type of stuff, any help and information > would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks in advance! > > PS: To anyone who does not have experience in this, you might want to take > a look, because its not fun to learn these things in total darkness in a > ice storm.. ;) > > Andrew Webster andrew@pubnix.net Key fingerprint = CF E8 16 B8 A6 DB E3 C9 83 E7 96 24 25 58 15 6E PubNIX Montreal Connected to the world Branche au monde P.O. Box 147 Cote Saint Luc, Quebec H4V 2Y3 tel 514.990.5911 http://www.pubnix.net fax 514.990.9443 From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 16 11:04:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA07270 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 11:04:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from bear.beyond2000.co.uk (bear.beyond2000.co.uk [194.217.248.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA07245; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 11:04:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bj@home.cam.net.uk) Received: from muskateer.beyond2000.co.uk (muskateer.beyond2000.co.uk [194.217.248.101]) by bear.beyond2000.co.uk (8.8.7/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA12780; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 19:06:14 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971116190254.0082fc10@pop3.cam.net.uk> X-Sender: aaa002@pop3.cam.net.uk (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 19:02:54 +0000 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org From: Bernard Jauregui Subject: Problems Installing INN-1.7 Cc: bj@home.cam.net.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk OK After a couple of weeks of hacking and no help from the email archives I still have the folowwing problem when running inndstart :- Nov 16 inndstart: inndstart cant setgroups Operation not permitted Nov 16 inndstart: inndstart cant bind Permission denied The above was clipped from /var/log/messages. I notice someone had the same problem back in March with INN-1.5.1, but no solution was posted (according to the search I did). I have a PentiumII news server, whoich I have just upgraded from 2.2.2 to 2.2.5 (complete source tree). I patched my own config.data file with a lot of hints from the 1.5.1 in the ports collection. I guess I missed something :-( Any help much appreciated. If replying from the ports mailing list, please also email directly as I haven't subscribed. BJ -- Bernard Jauregui - Beyond 2000 Ltd T:+44 (0)1223 500600 http://www.beyond2000.co.uk/ F:+44 (0)1223 500601 http://www.cam.net.uk/ From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 16 15:32:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA23134 for isp-outgoing; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 15:32:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from ady.warp.starnets.ro (ady.warp.starnets.ro [193.226.124.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA23124; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 15:32:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ady@warp.starnets.ro) Received: from localhost (ady@localhost) by ady.warp.starnets.ro (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id BAA05012; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 01:32:06 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 01:32:06 +0200 (EET) From: Penisoara Adrian To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Latest 3.0-SNAP for ISP Production server ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm sorry to bother you all but I really am out of 'sync' with -current events... We have an dual Pentium machine running 3.0-970718-SNAP and we have big plans for it (it's our main server) so I'd like to 'upgrade' it to the newest stable SNAP in this time frame, while we're going to do a bunch of changes in the networking infrastructure. Beeing our main server I'd like to know what's the latest _stable_ SNAP; I'm specially looking for stable AIC7XXX (AHA2940AU adapter), MFS, PPP and networking subsystems. Thank you very much and please forgive me again for disturbing you. Ady (@warp.starnets.ro) Warp Net Technologies http://www.warp.starnets.ro From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 17 02:27:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA00622 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 02:27:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from topgun.asiapac.net ([202.188.0.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA00613 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 02:27:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sckhoo@asiapac.net) Received: from topgun ([202.188.0.106]) by topgun.asiapac.net (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with SMTP id AAA12886; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 18:25:08 +0800 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 18:25:08 +0800 (SGT) From: Swee-Chuan Khoo X-Sender: sckhoo@topgun To: Chris Dillon cc: Dev Chanchani , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Power In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 15 Nov 1997, Chris Dillon wrote: > >the generator. The 650 UPS could not take it, it was flipping between > >generator power and UPS power every second. So... my questions are as > >follows: if i am not mistaken, there is a switch in the UPS to turn the sensitivity of the UPS off, to cater for those country who use diesal/petrol generator for power, like mine. i use to have a APC who were flipping, after turn of the switch, it is much stable. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Swee-Chuan Khoo sckhoo@asiapac.net System Administrator - Internet Evangelist http://www.asiapac.net/~sckhoo/ http://www.apmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD : Decouvrez la puissance de votre PC! From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 17 10:48:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA03002 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:48:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [194.77.0.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA02968; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:48:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id TAA26495; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 19:45:25 +0100 (MET) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id HAA01261; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 07:52:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas) Message-ID: <19971117075259.32948@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 07:52:59 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: Penisoara Adrian Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest 3.0-SNAP for ISP Production server ? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: ; from Penisoara Adrian on Mon, Nov 17, 1997 at 01:32:06AM +0200 X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, Nov 17, 1997 at 01:32:06AM +0200, Penisoara Adrian wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm sorry to bother you all but I really am out of 'sync' with -current > events... > We have an dual Pentium machine running 3.0-970718-SNAP and we have big > plans for it (it's our main server) so I'd like to 'upgrade' it to the > newest stable SNAP in this time frame, while we're going to do a bunch of > changes in the networking infrastructure. > Beeing our main server I'd like to know what's the latest _stable_ SNAP; > I'm specially looking for stable AIC7XXX (AHA2940AU adapter), MFS, PPP and > networking subsystems. You should use 2.2-STABLE for a production machine. -current is developers playground. It's not recommended to run -current in a production environment. For SMP you should wait, until 3.0-RELEASE comes out. Ok, SMP does pretty well here at home, but if I were you I'd choose -STABLE for the company (as I did twice). -- Andreas Klemm powered by ,,symmetric multiprocessor FreeBSD'' From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 17 11:14:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA04454 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 11:14:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from ady.warp.starnets.ro (ady.warp.starnets.ro [193.226.124.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA04446; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 11:14:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ady@warp.starnets.ro) Received: from localhost (ady@localhost) by ady.warp.starnets.ro (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id VAA07712; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 21:12:40 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 21:12:40 +0200 (EET) From: Penisoara Adrian To: Andreas Klemm cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest 3.0-SNAP for ISP Production server ? In-Reply-To: <19971117075259.32948@klemm.gtn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Andreas Klemm wrote: > On Mon, Nov 17, 1997 at 01:32:06AM +0200, Penisoara Adrian wrote: > > [...] > > We have an dual Pentium machine running 3.0-970718-SNAP and we have big > > plans for it (it's our main server) so I'd like to 'upgrade' it to the > > newest stable SNAP in this time frame, while we're going to do a bunch of > > changes in the networking infrastructure. > > Beeing our main server I'd like to know what's the latest _stable_ SNAP; > > I'm specially looking for stable AIC7XXX (AHA2940AU adapter), MFS, PPP and > > networking subsystems. > > You should use 2.2-STABLE for a production machine. -current is > developers playground. It's not recommended to run -current in a > production environment. For SMP you should wait, until 3.0-RELEASE > comes out. Ok, SMP does pretty well here at home, but if I were you > I'd choose -STABLE for the company (as I did twice). Yes, I agree with you, but I have to go for SMP - this dual Pentium machine is our main server... BTW, I did enjoy 3.0-current, except for those nasty AIC7XXX bugs in a while (did -current really get rid of 'em ?). > > -- > Andreas Klemm > powered by ,,symmetric multiprocessor FreeBSD'' > Thanks. Ady (@warp.starnets.ro) From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 17 13:03:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA14753 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 13:03:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from ohio.river.org (river.org [209.24.233.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA14745 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 13:03:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhawk@ohio.river.org) Received: (from dhawk@localhost) by ohio.river.org (8.8.8/8.7.3) id NAA29143 for isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 13:03:00 -0800 (PST) From: David Hawkins Message-Id: <199711172103.NAA29143@ohio.river.org> Subject: ISP's using login.conf (2.2.5)?? To: isp@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 13:03:00 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just upgraded to 2.2.5 yesterday and noticed the login.conf file. I already had limit cputime 1:30 in /etc/csh.login so thought I'd copy it over and I put in cputime=1h (I think it was). Drove home (1 hour) and logged in to find that people couldn't stay logged in -- that it was setting limit to 1 minute. Changed it back to unlimited for the moment. Was curious if someone had a recommended login.conf and/or had noticed any other 'gotcha's? Does this mean I should quit running idled? Apologies if this has been discussed to death -- I wasn't paying attention to the 2.2.5 stuff before. later, david -- David Hawkins -- dhawk@river.org http://www.river.org "Anyone with an active mind lives on tentatives rather than tenets." -- Robert Frost From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 17 18:42:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA08077 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 18:42:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from mail.triplet.net ([205.216.84.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA08067 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 18:42:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jemstone@triplet.net) Received: from z9a2d9 ([205.216.84.110]) by mail.triplet.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA17662 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 21:42:00 -0500 (EST) From: "James E. Marker" To: Subject: Newfeed size? Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 21:37:31 -0500 Message-ID: <01bcf3ca$ebb85200$6e54d8cd@z9a2d9> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BCF3A1.02E24A00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BCF3A1.02E24A00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How big is a pretty complete newsfeed? I just got my feed turned on and = it has already used up almost a gig in less than half a day. What is = normal? I am getting about 28,000 groups from mci. Jim... ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BCF3A1.02E24A00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
How big is a pretty complete = newsfeed?  I=20 just got my feed turned on and it has already used up almost a gig in = less than=20 half a day.  What is normal?  I am getting about 28,000 groups = from=20 mci.
 
Jim...
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BCF3A1.02E24A00-- From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 17 19:47:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA13055 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 19:47:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from scanner.worldgate.com (scanner.worldgate.com [198.161.84.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA13042 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 19:47:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcs@znep.com) Received: from znep.com (uucp@localhost) by scanner.worldgate.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id UAA25600; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 20:46:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (marcs@localhost) by alive.znep.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA08932; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 20:44:32 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 20:44:32 -0700 (MST) From: Marc Slemko To: "James E. Marker" cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newfeed size? In-Reply-To: <01bcf3ca$ebb85200$6e54d8cd@z9a2d9> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Please fix your broken mail client. It is _NOT_ appropriate to send in HTML. On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, James E. Marker wrote: > How big is a pretty complete newsfeed? I just got my feed turned on and > it has already used up almost a gig in less than half a day. What is > normal? I am getting about 28,000 groups from mci. 8.5-9.5 gigs a day is a good number, if you toss a lot of the warez stuff. Of course it would be half that if people didn't use silly clients that did things in HTML for no reason. Sigh; too bad that wouldn't really make a difference. Dropping the largest 1% of posts would cut the volume in half though. From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 17 19:54:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA13672 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 19:54:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from neptune.ajc.state.net (neptune.ajc.state.net [204.120.158.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA13646 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 19:54:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Al.Johnson@AJC.State.Net) Received: from AJC.State.Net (saturn.ajc.state.net [204.120.158.166]) by neptune.ajc.state.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA13037; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 21:51:59 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <347110E6.F8E7FD4F@AJC.State.Net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 21:52:06 -0600 From: Al Johnson Organization: Al Johnson Consulting X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "James E. Marker" CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Newfeed size? References: <01bcf3ca$ebb85200$6e54d8cd@z9a2d9> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Umm, I've got a 5 day expiration on article with approx 25k groups and I'm eating up about 8GB consistantly. - Al > James E. Marker wrote: > > How big is a pretty complete newsfeed? I just got my feed turned on > and it has already used up almost a gig in less than half a day. What > is normal? I am getting about 28,000 groups from mci. > > Jim... From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 17 20:22:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA15974 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 20:22:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from topgun.asiapac.net ([202.188.0.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA15965 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 20:22:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sckhoo@asiapac.net) Received: from topgun ([202.188.0.106]) by topgun.asiapac.net (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with SMTP id AAA1952; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 12:20:08 +0800 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 12:20:08 +0800 (SGT) From: Swee-Chuan Khoo X-Sender: sckhoo@topgun To: "James E. Marker" cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Newfeed size? In-Reply-To: <01bcf3ca$ebb85200$6e54d8cd@z9a2d9> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, James E. Marker wrote: > How big is a pretty complete newsfeed? I just got my feed turned on and it has already used up almost a gig in less than half a day. What is normal? I am getting about 28,000 groups from mci. i think is about 3GB a day for a full feed. but it also depends on which day, weekend might be more. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Swee-Chuan Khoo sckhoo@asiapac.net System Administrator - Internet Evangelist http://www.asiapac.net/~sckhoo/ http://www.apmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD : Decouvrez la puissance de votre PC! From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 17 20:26:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA16208 for isp-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 20:26:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from atlas.iexpress.net.au (mikey@atlas.iexpress.net.au [203.61.175.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA16199 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 20:26:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mikey@atlas.iexpress.net.au) Received: from localhost (mikey@localhost) by atlas.iexpress.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA32667 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 12:25:58 +0800 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 12:25:58 +0800 (WST) From: Michael Slater To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Broadband Radio Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I doubt this is the correct forum for this, but cant think of another. I have been looking at Broadband radio as an alternate to the Australian Telco "Telstra" DDS Fastway service, but am not sure where to obtain information pertaining to Hardware required, permits needed, ect... Anyone in Australia have any experience with this ? Michael From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 18 00:14:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA02567 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 00:14:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA02561 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 00:14:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from francisco@natserv.com) Received: from localhost (slip-32-100-113-205.ny.us.ibm.net [32.100.113.205]) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id DAA12930 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 03:14:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711180814.DAA12930@federation.addy.com> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "FreebSD ISP list" Date: Tue, 18 Nov 97 03:13:37 -0400 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.95a For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Seeking ISP in 212,718 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am looking for a FreeBSD based ISP in area codes 212/718. Shell account would be nice, but not required. Don't really care about www space either. I am not in the list so please email. Thanks. Francisco From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 18 04:18:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA17115 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 04:18:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from hack.babel.dk (root@hack.babel.dk [194.255.106.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA17110 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 04:18:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shredder@hack.babel.dk) Received: (from shredder@localhost) by hack.babel.dk (8.8.7/8.6.12) id NAA13088; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 13:16:26 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 13:16:24 +0100 (MET) From: chrw To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: FTP chroot Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Anyone knows how setup a chrooted FTP shell, for other accounts than "anonymous"? In sysV there is usually a file called /etc/ftpusers where u can specify the ftp shell as restricted which will do a chroot to the homedir specified. Doesnt the ftpd that comes with freebsd support this? If it does, how to configure? // shreddah From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 18 04:34:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA17763 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 04:34:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from mail.wup.de (ns.wup.de [149.237.200.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA17755; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 04:33:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas@wup.de) Received: from blackbird.wup.de (andreas@blackbird.wup.de [149.237.200.201]) by mail.wup.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA28997; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 13:32:36 +0100 (CET) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by blackbird.wup.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA00522; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 13:33:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <19971118133310.04039@wup.de> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 13:33:10 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: amr@wup.de Subject: RIP vs. OSPF Reply-To: akl@wup.de, amr@wup.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84 X-phone: Wiechers & Partner +49 2173 3964 161 X-fax: Wiechers & Partner +49 2173 3964 222 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I´m not a dynamic routing expert, so maybe someone could help me a bit. Which routing protocol is available for - Cisco´s - Livingston Portmasters - NT 4.0 Server - Netware 3 and 4 Servers. I´d like to use OSPF for our companies internal network but fear, that NT doesn´t support this. Our network will look like this in the near future: Backbone Router (3com or such) | | | | | | | | 4-6 100 MBit Segments | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | 4-6 10 MBit Segments | | | +---------- Dial up network customers | | +------------ Dial up network company | +-------------- Internet Gateway Segment +------ externel Network carrier | Cisco Router (2503) | Frame Relay (Network of external Carrier) | Cisco Router (2503) | +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+ | | | | | | | | | | R-- Our ext. Office 1 | R----- Our ext. Office 2 | ... R-----NT MPR--- Our ext. Office 3 with + + NT Server as Router | | | +---- LAN 1 in ext. Office 3 +------- LAN 2 in ext. Office 3 What dynamic Routing protocol would be best in this situation ? If our Offices get subnets of their own, it would be fine not having to deal with static routes. I´m sure, that a NT 4.0 Server will become a router in the offices, to create 2 or 3 subnetworks. So I think we have to use an interior routing protocol, that is supported by most or all components. - Should I use rip or OSPF ??? - Does NT Support OSPF ??? - What´s better, RIP or OSPF ??? - Any good source of information ??? Thanks in advance Andreas /// -- Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH phone: +49 2173 3964 161 Support Unix - Andreas Klemm fax: +49 2173 3964 222 An der alten Ziegelei 2 mail1: andreas.klemm@wup.de D-40789 Monheim mail2: andreas@FreeBSD.ORG From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 18 05:47:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA22033 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 05:47:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from arka.mtl.pl (root@arka.mtl.pl [195.116.4.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA22023 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 05:47:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@arka.mtl.pl) Received: (from tom@localhost) by arka.mtl.pl (8.8.7/8.6.12) id OAA16109; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:47:28 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:47:28 +0100 (MET) From: Tomasz Zin To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: zone file transfer Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have C class 195.116.4 and just added class 195.205.72. To the file named.boot I added line about this new class: primary 72.205.195.in-addr.arpa 195.205.72 and line primary gazoprojekt.com.pl gazoprojekt.com.pl for zone gazoprojekt.com.pl. gazoprojekt.com.pl use IP 195.205.72.129 in my new class 195.205.72. On secondary name server I added line about this new domain: secondary 72.205.195.in-addr.arpa 195.116.4.4 195.205.72 secondary gazoprojekt.com.pl 195.116.4.4 gazoprojekt.com.pl I hope it is correct. On my secondary name server I received file holding information abut domain gazoprojekt.com.pl, but I did not receive file for 72.205.195.in-addr.arpa. I do not know why. Mayby somone can help me. Tomek ============================================================================== My files: ______________________________________________________________________________ File named.boot directory /etc/namedb ; type domain source host/file backup file cache . root.cache directory /etc/namedb/P primary 0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA localhost.rev primary 4.116.195.in-addr.arpa 195.116.4 primary 72.205.195.in-addr.arpa 195.205.72 ; primary mtl.pl mtl.pl primary impol.net.pl impol.net.pl primary prorexim.com.pl prorexim.com.pl primary agalight.com.pl agalight.com.pl primary innet.com.pl innet.com.pl primary elektrocomplex.com.pl elektrocomplex.com.pl primary fega.com.pl fega.com.pl ; ; 195.205.72 ; primary gazoprojekt.com.pl gazoprojekt.com.pl ; ; secondary ; directory /etc/namedb/S secondary szczecin.mtl.pl 195.117.116.4 szczecin.mtl secondary opole.mtl.pl 195.117.41.4 opole.mtl.pl secondary wroc.impol.net.pl 195.117.40.81 wroc.impol.net.pl ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- File 195.205.72 ; ; Opis domeny 72.205.195.in-addr.arpa ; @ IN SOA arka.mtl.pl. root.arka.mtl.pl. ( 1991119 ; serial number 7200 ; refresh: 24 hours 3600 ; retry: 1 hour 3600000 ; expire: 42 days (approx) 86400 ) ; minimum: 1 day IN NS arka.mtl.pl. IN NS arka.szczecin.mtl.pl. IN NS arka.kielce.mtl.pl. ; ; 1 - 128 ; ; 129 - 255 ; 129 IN PTR gazoprojekt.com.pl. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- File gazoprojekt.com.pl ; ; Opis domeny gazoprojekt.com.pl ; @ IN SOA arka.mtl.pl. root.arka.mtl.pl. ( 1991017 ; serial number 7200 ; refresh: 24 hours 3600 ; retry: 1 hour 3600000 ; expire: 42 days (approx) 86400 ) ; minimum: 1 day IN NS arka.mtl.pl. IN NS arka.szczecin.mtl.pl. IN NS arka.kielce.mtl.pl. ; IN MX 0 arka.mtl.pl. IN A 195.205.72.129 www IN CNAME @ From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 18 05:55:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA22432 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 05:55:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA22415 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 05:55:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (shovey@buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA17399; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 08:54:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 08:54:22 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Hovey To: "James E. Marker" cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newfeed size? In-Reply-To: <01bcf3ca$ebb85200$6e54d8cd@z9a2d9> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk sometimes 4 to 6 gigs/day On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, James E. Marker wrote: > How big is a pretty complete newsfeed? I just got my feed turned on and it has already used up almost a gig in less than half a day. What is normal? I am getting about 28,000 groups from mci. > > Jim... > From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 18 06:17:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA23898 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 06:17:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from emu.sourcee.com (emu.sourcee.com [199.201.159.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA23874 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 06:17:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nrice@emu.sourcee.com) Received: (from nrice@localhost) by emu.sourcee.com (8.8.7/8.8.3) id JAA12067; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:17:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19971118091714.49192@emu.sourcee.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:17:14 -0500 From: "Norman C. Rice" To: David Hawkins Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ISP's using login.conf (2.2.5)?? References: <199711172103.NAA29143@ohio.river.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Description: email message X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84 In-Reply-To: <199711172103.NAA29143@ohio.river.org>; from David Hawkins on Mon, Nov 17, 1997 at 01:03:00PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, Nov 17, 1997 at 01:03:00PM -0800, David Hawkins wrote: > I just upgraded to 2.2.5 yesterday and noticed the login.conf file. > I already had limit cputime 1:30 in /etc/csh.login so thought > I'd copy it over and I put in cputime=1h (I think it was). Drove > home (1 hour) and logged in to find that people couldn't stay logged > in -- that it was setting limit to 1 minute. Changed it back to > unlimited for the moment. > > Was curious if someone had a recommended login.conf and/or had noticed > any other 'gotcha's? Does this mean I should quit running idled? > > Apologies if this has been discussed to death -- I wasn't paying > attention to the 2.2.5 stuff before. > > later, david > -- > David Hawkins -- dhawk@river.org http://www.river.org > "Anyone with an active mind lives on tentatives rather than tenets." > -- Robert Frost Maybe it's just a strange coincidence, but the login.conf man page (2.2.5-RELEASE) reports that the time field's 'h' suffix (referred to as a prefix?) is for minutes. However, it goes on to give an example where it is used for hours, i.e., 2h40m for two hours and 40 minutes. There is also no reporting of the 'm' unit in the time field. Perhaps this confusion warrants some source code scrutiny. I also recall that login.conf was inadvertently omitted from the /etc area when 2.2.2-RELEASE was released which caused some mailing list and news group activity. -- Regards, Norm From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 18 06:29:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA24770 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 06:29:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from homer.duff-beer.com (mail@homer.duff-beer.com [194.207.51.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA24743 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 06:29:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scot@poptart.org) Received: from localhost (scot@localhost) by homer.duff-beer.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA02890; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:27:59 GMT Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 14:27:58 +0000 (GMT) From: Scot Elliott To: akl@wup.de, amr@wup.de cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RIP vs. OSPF In-Reply-To: <19971118133310.04039@wup.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thei only thing I'd say about RIP is that it doesn't support subnetting. This can be a problem.. for example, I used to use the class-A network 10.0.0.0 as out intranet. But the routers using RIP could only broadcast routes to the 10.0.0.0 network - not to any of the subnets - so you end up having lots of static routes as a cludge and only one router out of each subnet. Not nice. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scot Elliott scot@poptart.org Tel: +44 (0)181 8961019 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Public key available by finger at: finger scot@poptart.org or at: http://www.poptart.org/pgpkey.html From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 18 07:31:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA29176 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 07:31:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from firewall.ftf.dk (root@mail.ftf.dk [129.142.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA29162 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 07:31:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from regnauld@deepo.prosa.dk) Received: from mail.prosa.dk ([192.168.100.2]) by firewall.ftf.dk (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA16946; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 18:06:02 +0100 Received: from deepo.prosa.dk (deepo.prosa.dk [192.168.100.10]) by mail.prosa.dk (8.8.5/8.8.5/prosa-1.1) with ESMTP id QAA09466; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:51:49 +0100 (CET) Received: (from regnauld@localhost) by deepo.prosa.dk (8.8.5/8.8.5/prosa-1.1) id QAA08968; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:30:00 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <19971118163000.24023@deepo.prosa.dk> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:30:00 +0100 From: Philippe Regnauld To: Scot Elliott Cc: akl@wup.de, amr@wup.de, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RIP vs. OSPF References: <19971118133310.04039@wup.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: ; from Scot Elliott on Tue, Nov 18, 1997 at 02:27:58PM +0000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Scot Elliott writes: > Thei only thing I'd say about RIP is that it doesn't support subnetting. RIP v2 does. -- -- Phil -[ Philippe Regnauld / Systems Administrator / regnauld@deepo.prosa.dk ]- -[ Location.: +55.4N +11.3E PGP Key: finger regnauld@hotel.prosa.dk ]- From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 18 09:07:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA05657 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:07:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from intra.vafibre.com ([205.139.223.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA05651 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:07:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jbrown@vafibre.com) Received: from is01 by intra.vafibre.com (Unoverica 2.11a) id 00000E7E; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 12:07:59 -0500 From: "John Brown" To: Subject: DNS Reverse Lookup Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 12:01:48 -0500 Message-ID: <01bcf443$a865a0b0$3e01017d@is01.vafibre.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have made an attempt to establish the ability to do reverse lookups on my DNS server and when I use nslookup to check my ip to name resolution it appears to work correctly. When My users attempt to download anything that requires reverse DNS authentication (Like the 128 bit encryption stuff) they are being denied because the ip cannot be associated with a name. Any Ideas on how I make this work, or a place that will has DNS related examples. Am I not able to use nslookup to check my reverse lookups? Thanks From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 18 09:56:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA09346 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:56:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from mail.commlitho.com (zeus.commlitho.com [207.254.73.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA09337 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:56:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from patb@commlitho.com) Received: from [207.254.73.18] by mail.commlitho.com (SMTPD32-3.02) id A6B9FB012E; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 10:56:09 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19971118105610.007ed860@commlitho.com> X-Sender: patb@commlitho.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 10:56:10 -0700 To: "John Brown" , From: Patrick Burm Subject: Re: DNS Reverse Lookup In-Reply-To: <01bcf443$a865a0b0$3e01017d@is01.vafibre.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Have you checked the status of the in-addr.arpa for your class c(s)? You may find that your backbone is primary for it and is not loading any information, so when outsiders do reverse they get nothing, but insiders get the info, because you are claiming to be primary. At 12:01 PM 11/18/97 -0500, John Brown wrote: >I have made an attempt to establish the ability to do reverse lookups on my >DNS server and when I use nslookup to check my ip to name resolution it >appears to work correctly. > >When My users attempt to download anything that requires reverse DNS >authentication (Like the 128 bit encryption stuff) they are being denied >because the ip cannot be associated with a name. > >Any Ideas on how I make this work, or a place that will has DNS related >examples. > >Am I not able to use nslookup to check my reverse lookups? From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 18 10:01:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA09877 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 10:01:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from lithium.dowco.com (lithium.dowco.com [207.23.88.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA09870 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 10:01:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kevinmck@dowco.com) Received: (from kevinmck@localhost) by lithium.dowco.com (8.8.7/8.8.7/CF.6) id KAA05601; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 10:01:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 10:01:18 -0800 (PST) From: Kevin McKinnon To: John Brown cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS Reverse Lookup In-Reply-To: <01bcf443$a865a0b0$3e01017d@is01.vafibre.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, John Brown wrote: > When My users attempt to download anything that requires reverse DNS > authentication (Like the 128 bit encryption stuff) they are being denied > because the ip cannot be associated with a name. > > Any Ideas on how I make this work, or a place that will has DNS related > examples. Hi John, You might check with your backbone provider to see if they've delgated reverse lookups for your IP block to your nameserver. It's possible that MCI still shows that *they* are doing the reverse lookups for your addresses. (This happened to me with SprintLink last year, same symptoms that you describe.) If they are still set to provide reverse lookups, you need to get *them* to delegate it to you... you can't have it changed yourself. Hope this helps... Best regards, Kev --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kevin McKinnon, Network Engineer kev@dowco.com Dowco Computer Systems (dowco.com) http://www.dowco.com Member CLCU - The Committee for the Licensing of Computer Users From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 18 11:12:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA14500 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 11:12:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from DNS.Lamb.net (root@DNS.Lamb.net [207.90.181.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA14495 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 11:12:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ulf@Gatekeeper.Alameda.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by DNS.Lamb.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) id LAA14858; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 11:12:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from gatekeeper.Alameda.net(207.90.181.2) via SMTP by DNS.Lamb.net, id smtpd014856; Tue Nov 18 11:12:10 1997 Received: (from ulf@localhost) by Gatekeeper.Alameda.net (8.8.6/8.7.6) id LAA09967; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 11:12:00 -0800 (PST) From: Ulf Zimmermann Message-Id: <199711181912.LAA09967@Gatekeeper.Alameda.net> Subject: Re: RIP vs. OSPF In-Reply-To: from Scot Elliott at "Nov 18, 97 02:27:58 pm" To: scot@poptart.org (Scot Elliott) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 11:11:59 -0800 (PST) Cc: akl@wup.de, amr@wup.de, isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Thei only thing I'd say about RIP is that it doesn't support subnetting. > This can be a problem.. for example, I used to use the class-A network > 10.0.0.0 as out intranet. But the routers using RIP could only broadcast > routes to the 10.0.0.0 network - not to any of the subnets - so you end up > having lots of static routes as a cludge and only one router out of each > subnet. Not nice. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Scot Elliott scot@poptart.org Tel: +44 (0)181 8961019 > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Public key available by finger at: finger scot@poptart.org > or at: http://www.poptart.org/pgpkey.html Sorry, this is not true. RipV1 does not support netmasks in the degree that does not transport a mask within the packets, but there are tricks to get around that (subnet mask known via connected) and RipV2 supports subnet masks in the packets. If you want to know more about the RipV1 and netmask, ask me, even it is a topic I don't like ;-| Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-769-2936 Alameda Networks, Inc. | http://www.Alameda.net | Fax#: 510-521-5073 From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 18 11:13:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA14598 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 11:13:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from news1.gtn.com (news1.gtn.com [194.77.0.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA14558; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 11:12:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by news1.gtn.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id UAA21479; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 20:00:23 +0100 (MET) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id TAA02898; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:30:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas) Message-ID: <19971118193054.21688@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:30:54 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: Penisoara Adrian Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest 3.0-SNAP for ISP Production server ? References: <19971117075259.32948@klemm.gtn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: ; from Penisoara Adrian on Mon, Nov 17, 1997 at 09:12:40PM +0200 X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, Nov 17, 1997 at 09:12:40PM +0200, Penisoara Adrian wrote: > > [ should use -STABLE ] > Yes, I agree with you, but I have to go for SMP - this dual Pentium > machine is our main server... > BTW, I did enjoy 3.0-current, except for those nasty AIC7XXX bugs in a > while (did -current really get rid of 'em ?). SCSI driver fixes are introduced to current and stable. -- Andreas Klemm powered by ,,symmetric multiprocessor FreeBSD'' From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 18 15:06:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA02887 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:06:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from rainey.blueneptune.com (root@rainey.blueneptune.com [207.104.147.238]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA02882 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:06:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michael@blueneptune.com) From: michael@blueneptune.com Received: (from michael@localhost) by rainey.blueneptune.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA22592 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:13:53 -0800 Message-Id: <199711182313.PAA22592@rainey.blueneptune.com> Subject: FreeBSD fix for Intel Pentium "f00f" bug? To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:13:53 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: michael@blueneptune.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I haven't seen a reply yet to my message from last week, and I am still wondering what we can expect in terms of a patch for FreeBSD for the Pentium invalid instruction bug. A fix has been integrated into BSDI and Linux, and it is important for FreeBSD-based ISPs to get a fix, to protect any Pentium system which allows general user access. I haven't seen any official statement from the FreeBSD team yet, at least not in the freebsd-announce or freebsd-isp groups. Here's the URL for Intel's information on this: http://support.intel.com/support/processors/pentium/ppiie/index.htm -- Michael Bryan michael@blueneptune.com From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 18 15:54:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA06646 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:54:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from implode.root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA06637 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:54:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA19896; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:57:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711182357.PAA19896@implode.root.com> To: michael@blueneptune.com cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD fix for Intel Pentium "f00f" bug? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:13:53 PST." <199711182313.PAA22592@rainey.blueneptune.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 15:57:19 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I haven't seen a reply yet to my message from last week, and I am >still wondering what we can expect in terms of a patch for FreeBSD >for the Pentium invalid instruction bug. A fix has been integrated >into BSDI and Linux, and it is important for FreeBSD-based ISPs to >get a fix, to protect any Pentium system which allows general user >access. I haven't seen any official statement from the FreeBSD team >yet, at least not in the freebsd-announce or freebsd-isp groups. There is a FreeBSD fix floating around. It hasn't been adequately tested and thus hasn't been integrated into FreeBSD. There are many things to consider...this is not an easy thing to fix. Please be patient. :-) -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 18 16:52:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA10499 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:52:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from osceola.cs.ucf.edu (osceola.cs.ucf.edu [132.170.108.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA10489 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:52:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bilver.oau.org!bill@alfred.oau.org) Received: by osceola.cs.ucf.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA26702; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:52:49 -0500 >Received: by alfred.oau.org (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1) id ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:33:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by alfred.oau.org (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1) id ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:33:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.oau.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) id TAA09405 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:27:23 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Vermillion Message-Id: <199711190027.TAA09405@bilver.oau.org> Subject: Re: DNS Reverse Lookup In-Reply-To: from Kevin McKinnon at "Nov 18, 97 10:01:18 am" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:27:22 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Recently Kevin McKinnon said: > On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, John Brown wrote: > > When My users attempt to download anything that requires reverse DNS > > authentication (Like the 128 bit encryption stuff) they are being denied > > because the ip cannot be associated with a name. > > > > Any Ideas on how I make this work, or a place that will has DNS related > > examples. > You might check with your backbone provider to see if they've delgated > reverse lookups for your IP block to your nameserver. It's possible that > MCI still shows that *they* are doing the reverse lookups for your > addresses. (This happened to me with SprintLink last year, same symptoms > that you describe.) > If they are still set to provide reverse lookups, you need to get *them* > to delegate it to you... you can't have it changed yourself. He doesn't say what equipment he has so here's another guess. If you have some terminal server it will allocated IPs from a pool of addresses. Just assisgn a name to each one of the IPs and in your reverse table too. (this assumes you are doing your own DNS) From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 18 18:27:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA17143 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 18:27:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.8.15.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA17133 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 18:27:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danny@panda.hilink.com.au) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA14258; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:26:51 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:26:50 +1100 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Scot Elliott cc: akl@wup.de, amr@wup.de, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RIP vs. OSPF In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, Scot Elliott wrote: > Thei only thing I'd say about RIP is that it doesn't support subnetting. > This can be a problem.. for example, I used to use the class-A network > 10.0.0.0 as out intranet. But the routers using RIP could only broadcast > routes to the 10.0.0.0 network - not to any of the subnets - so you end up > having lots of static routes as a cludge and only one router out of each > subnet. Not nice. Not true. RIP v1 (Novell 3.1x) supports fixed-length subnets. That is, *all* subnets must have the same netmask. RIP v1 also assumes that all subnets of a network are contiguous, which is not necessarily so, these days. RIP v 2 supports variable-length subnet masks and remote subnets, but still is not as good as OSPF. I recommend going to OSPF and using default routes on the Novell gateways and static routes *to* the Novell gateways. Novell fileserver routing is pathetic, particularly 3.x. Danny From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 18 18:33:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA17629 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 18:33:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from topgun.asiapac.net ([202.188.0.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA17621 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 18:33:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sckhoo@asiapac.net) Received: from topgun ([202.188.0.106]) by topgun.asiapac.net (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with SMTP id AAA5158; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 10:31:43 +0800 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 10:31:43 +0800 (SGT) From: Swee-Chuan Khoo X-Sender: sckhoo@topgun To: Bill Vermillion cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DNS Reverse Lookup In-Reply-To: <199711190027.TAA09405@bilver.oau.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, Bill Vermillion wrote: > > You might check with your backbone provider to see if they've delgated > > reverse lookups for your IP block to your nameserver. It's possible that > > MCI still shows that *they* are doing the reverse lookups for your > > addresses. (This happened to me with SprintLink last year, same symptoms > > that you describe.) how about delegating a subnet of class C, let's say netmask of 26 bits, how do we delegate it? we done that for whole class C. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Swee-Chuan Khoo sckhoo@asiapac.net System Administrator - Internet Evangelist http://www.asiapac.net/~sckhoo/ http://www.apmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD : Decouvrez la puissance de votre PC! From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 18 19:20:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA20763 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:20:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from nak.myhouse.com (nak.myhouse.com [209.70.45.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA20746 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:20:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zoonie@nak.myhouse.com) Received: (qmail 1647 invoked by uid 1000); 19 Nov 1997 03:22:38 -0000 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 22:22:38 -0500 (EST) From: zoonie To: "Daniel O'Callaghan" cc: Scot Elliott , akl@wup.de, amr@wup.de, isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RIP vs. OSPF In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Daniel O'Callaghan wrote: > Not true. RIP v1 (Novell 3.1x) supports fixed-length subnets. That is, > *all* subnets must have the same netmask. RIP v1 also assumes that all > subnets of a network are contiguous, which is not necessarily so, these days. > > RIP v 2 supports variable-length subnet masks and remote subnets, but > still is not as good as OSPF. true, but OSPF is best if you have redundant paths. i don't exactly remember the entire network diagram since i deleted it but i don't think that there were redundant paths.... > I recommend going to OSPF and using default routes on the Novell gateways > and static routes *to* the Novell gateways. Novell fileserver routing is > pathetic, particularly 3.x. assuming that there weren't any redunant paths on the network i would recommend using RIPv2 myself and go to OSPF if you have redundant paths on your network for the quicker convergance. why incur the overhead of OSPF if there is no good technical reason for it? i say this from experiance because i worked at a place where we didn't have any redundant paths on the network but it was setup with OSPF as the routing protocol....then one day OSPF just took a hike for no reason at all (this was on cisco IOS 9.1) and i agured the technical merits of it vs RIP for the network with a friend and co-worker of mine. i favored OSPF at the time and my friend favored RIP. after some discussion and giving it some thought i really didn't see a reason to run OSPF and incur the overhead. that's my 2 cents worth..... From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 18 19:35:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA21700 for isp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:35:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from topgun.asiapac.net ([202.188.0.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA21691 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:35:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sckhoo@asiapac.net) Received: from topgun ([202.188.0.106]) by topgun.asiapac.net (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with SMTP id AAA6061 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 11:33:12 +0800 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 11:33:12 +0800 (SGT) From: Swee-Chuan Khoo X-Sender: sckhoo@topgun To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: new server setup Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk following the thread of the discussion, i would like to ask a setup question. i know that most of the people have multiple feeds to their news server, say A. is the same server A also perform as nnrpd server? if not, how is the setup to feed to the nnrp server, say B. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Swee-Chuan Khoo sckhoo@asiapac.net System Administrator - Internet Evangelist http://www.asiapac.net/~sckhoo/ http://www.apmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD : Decouvrez la puissance de votre PC! From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 19 05:06:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA14043 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 05:06:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from bigbrother.rust.net (bigbrother.rust.net [209.69.72.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA14036 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 05:05:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwlucas@bigbrother.rust.net) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by bigbrother.rust.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA14770; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 07:44:52 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael W. Lucas" Message-Id: <199711191244.HAA14770@bigbrother.rust.net> Subject: Re: DNS Reverse Lookup In-Reply-To: from Swee-Chuan Khoo at "Nov 19, 97 10:31:43 am" To: sckhoo@asiapac.net (Swee-Chuan Khoo) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 07:44:52 -0500 (EST) Cc: bill@bilver.oau.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You can use CNAMES for reverse delegation. Rather than spew the list with a long & moderately complex discussion, interested parties should see: ftp://ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-dnsind-classless-inaddr-03.txt Regards, Michael > On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, Bill Vermillion wrote: > > > You might check with your backbone provider to see if they've delgated > > > reverse lookups for your IP block to your nameserver. It's possible that > > > MCI still shows that *they* are doing the reverse lookups for your > > > addresses. (This happened to me with SprintLink last year, same symptoms > > > that you describe.) > > how about delegating a subnet of class C, let's say netmask of 26 > bits, how do we delegate it? we done that for whole class C. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Swee-Chuan Khoo sckhoo@asiapac.net > System Administrator - Internet Evangelist > http://www.asiapac.net/~sckhoo/ http://www.apmail.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > FreeBSD : Decouvrez la puissance de votre PC! > From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 19 05:58:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA17205 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 05:58:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from nak.myhouse.com (nak.myhouse.com [209.70.45.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id FAA17187 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 05:58:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zoonie@nak.myhouse.com) Received: (qmail 2430 invoked by uid 1000); 19 Nov 1997 13:59:55 -0000 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 08:59:55 -0500 (EST) From: zoonie Reply-To: zoonie To: Ulf Zimmermann cc: danny@panda.hilink.com.au, scot@poptart.org, akl@wup.de, amr@wup.de, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RIP vs. OSPF In-Reply-To: <199711190640.WAA22585@Gatekeeper.Alameda.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, Ulf Zimmermann wrote: > Aehm. OSPF has in a stable network less overhead (network traffic and CPU > wise) then RIP. OSPF only sends HELLOs, while Rip sends every 30 seconds > the whole routing table. If you have a flapping interface, then OSPF can > produce much traffic, because of the flooding. But depending how you design > your network, this is catched at Area borders. > you are correct ulf and i realized that i wasn't that clear on what i meant by overhead after i sent the message, it was getting late for me and i was really tired. i thought that somebody would ding me on that. i guess that it comes down to preference. if you don't have a large network should you really bother to create areas or have one area and run the risk of the flooding and computing the SPF algorithm everytime something changes or if an interface flaps. obviously if the network is stable this won't happen all the time and you do want stability. my preference would be for a link state routing protocol also but for some networks i just don't see the point. if you don't have a lot of traffic going through and the network is not very large and you don't have redundant paths what difference do a few packets every 30 seconds and some extra CPU cycles make? to me it's not a big deal, to others it may be. for the myhouse network i wanted to use VLSM to make better use of our current address space. i had the same choices. since the network isn't very large, i can live with the 30 second updates and i didn't see any good reason to run OSPF over RIPv2. so i chose RIPv2 and it still gets the job done which is the important thing to me. From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 19 06:42:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA19750 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 06:42:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from mail.wup.de (ns.wup.de [149.237.200.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA19743 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 06:42:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas@wup.de) Received: from blackbird.wup.de (andreas@blackbird.wup.de [149.237.200.201]) by mail.wup.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA02797; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:41:50 +0100 (CET) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by blackbird.wup.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA00273; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:41:50 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <19971119154150.10854@wup.de> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:41:50 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: Stefan Molnar Cc: akl@wup.de, amr@wup.de, isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RIP vs. OSPF References: <19971118133310.04039@wup.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84 In-Reply-To: ; from Stefan Molnar on Tue, Nov 18, 1997 at 02:36:31PM -0500 X-phone: Wiechers & Partner +49 2173 3964 161 X-fax: Wiechers & Partner +49 2173 3964 222 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, Nov 18, 1997 at 02:36:31PM -0500, Stefan Molnar wrote: > > > There is a good book you should get, it explains it all. > Routing In The Internet > by Christian Huitema > Prentice Hall > ISBN 0-13-132192-7 > > The best why I see when it is better to use OSPF is whn you have so > many IPs on one network that RIP storms start to happen, or are going > to happen. It mainly happens when you have 10+ PM2e on the same > logical wire. But I do not if NT knows what it is. You have to have > a dynamic routing protocol? Thanks a lot for your really fine statements about what one could/should do. >From what I´ve heard from you and what I read myself in the stevens book (tcpip illustrated) we´ll do the following: We´ll start with RIP V2 since it's a easy to configure and enable routing protocol and it's available for all platforms easily. When looking at gated´s OSPF config file, I think it's something you might only need for a larger intranet. Portmasters will be in a separate segment and will get static routes to a default gateway which will be located in the "backbone" on the router. We don't have so much different routes, so that routing table updates every 30 seconds won't produce that much traffic, but we'll have an eye on that. Perhaps one more question. One of the features of RIP version II is the routing table update via multicast to only the routing machines in a subnet. What do I have to configure, if I want to enable multicast. I read, that there can be several hosts combined to different multicast groups. Is that figured out / configured automatically be the multicast protocol or do I have to configure multicast groups (the routing machines for example) by hand ??? Thanks a lot for all your help Andreas /// (getting more and more familiar with dynamic routing ;-) -- Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH phone: +49 2173 3964 161 Support Unix - Andreas Klemm fax: +49 2173 3964 222 An der alten Ziegelei 2 mail1: andreas.klemm@wup.de D-40789 Monheim mail2: andreas@FreeBSD.ORG From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 19 07:31:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA22552 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 07:31:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from chain.freebsd.os.org.za (c3VamAgEojN3ZzgXPtecsJvoiDAGjtGt@chain.iafrica.com [196.7.74.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA22541 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 07:31:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from khetan@chain.iafrica.com) Received: from localhost (khetan@localhost) by chain.freebsd.os.org.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA03280 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 17:30:51 +0200 (SAT) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 17:30:50 +0200 (SAT) From: Khetan Gajjar X-Sender: khetan@chain Reply-To: Khetan Gajjar To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Adding 700+ users with one or two commands Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi. I've got a list of usernames, in the format that adduser wants them in a file. username groupname '' 'Full Name' password I've tried a command like cat file | xargs -n5 adduser -group groupname -shell nologin -batch, but this doesn't work quite nicely. Does anybody have a better solution for me ? I need users created, and their usernames appended to the group, and a home directory created. Any ideas ? TIA. --- Khetan Gajjar - whois kg1779 | khetan@iafrica.com or khetan@os.org.za http://chain.iafrica.com/~khetan | PGPKey : finger khetan@chain.iafrica.com UUNET Internet Africa Support | FreeBSD enthusiast-www2.za.freebsd.org Unix is user friendly; it's just selective about who it calls a friend! From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 19 09:08:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA00381 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:08:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.dpcsys.com [206.16.184.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA00371 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:08:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@dpcsys.com) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id RAA21781; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 17:07:46 GMT Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:07:42 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Busarow To: Swee-Chuan Khoo cc: Bill Vermillion , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DNS Reverse Lookup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Swee-Chuan Khoo wrote: > how about delegating a subnet of class C, let's say netmask of 26 > bits, how do we delegate it? we done that for whole class C. You do it with CNAME tricks in the reverse file. See the Internet Draft draft-ietf-cidrd-classless-inaddr-01.txt. I seem to recall that there may be a 02 version out now. Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 19 09:32:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA02962 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:32:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from rustler.gwc.cccd.edu (rustler.gwc.cccd.edu [159.115.129.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA02957 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:32:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mpeer@ponyexpress.gwc.cccd.edu) Received: from mpeer (mpeer.csc.gwc.cccd.edu [159.115.129.100]) by rustler.gwc.cccd.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA19871; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:32:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971119093735.00aa3100@rustler.gwc.cccd.edu> X-Sender: mpeer@rustler.gwc.cccd.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:37:35 -0800 To: Khetan Gajjar , isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Michael Peer Subject: Re: Adding 700+ users with one or two commands In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I took the data, and wrote a perl script to write out the command line for adduser script, I put the -batch parameter first, worked great. Make sure and specify the real path to the users home directory,otherwise rmuser will not get rid of their home directory. I add about 2000 users every 18 weeks. We will soon add 14,000 users every 18 weeks. At 05:30 PM 11/19/97 +0200, Khetan Gajjar wrote: >Hi. > >I've got a list of usernames, in the format that adduser wants them >in a file. > >username groupname '' 'Full Name' password > >I've tried a command like >cat file | xargs -n5 adduser -group groupname -shell nologin -batch, >but this doesn't work quite nicely. Does anybody have a better >solution for me ? > >I need users created, and their usernames appended to the group, and >a home directory created. > >Any ideas ? > >TIA. >--- >Khetan Gajjar - whois kg1779 | khetan@iafrica.com or khetan@os.org.za >http://chain.iafrica.com/~khetan | PGPKey : finger khetan@chain.iafrica.com >UUNET Internet Africa Support | FreeBSD enthusiast-www2.za.freebsd.org >Unix is user friendly; it's just selective about who it calls a friend! > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Peer Data Electronics Technician I Golden West College Computer Services Center 15744 Goldenwest St. Huntington Beach, CA 92647 e-mail: mpeer@gwc.cccd.edu Voice: (714)892-7711 ext 55067 WWW: http://pioneer.gwc.cccd.edu FAX: (714)895-8980 From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 19 10:23:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA07715 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 10:23:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from chicagometro.usweb.com (email.virtualmarketing.com [207.7.29.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA07687 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 10:22:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcin@v-m.com) Received: from v-m.com (207.7.29.107) by chicagometro.usweb.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.2b2); Wed, 19 Nov 1997 12:22:59 -0700 Message-ID: <34732E99.2B026399@v-m.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 12:23:22 -0600 From: Marcin Pasek Reply-To: marcin@v-m.com Organization: ....... X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd Subject: Runnig FIND Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Everynight at the same time there is a FIND command that is runned somehow..and I have no idea how and who is runnig it... Marcin From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 19 11:37:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA16024 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 11:37:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from skraldespand.demos.su (skraldespand.demos.su [194.87.5.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA16001 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 11:37:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mishania@skraldespand.demos.su) Received: (from mishania@localhost) by skraldespand.demos.su (8.8.8/D) id WAA28976; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 22:37:00 +0300 (MSK) Posted-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 22:37:00 +0300 (MSK) Message-ID: <19971119223659.23407@demos.su> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 22:36:59 +0300 From: "Mikhail A. Sokolov" To: marcin@v-m.com Cc: freebsd Subject: Re: Runnig FIND References: <34732E99.2B026399@v-m.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <34732E99.2B026399@v-m.com>; from Marcin Pasek on Wed, Nov 19, 1997 at 12:23:22PM -0600 Organization: Demos Company, Ltd., Moscow, Russian Federation. X-Point-of-View: Gravity is myth, - the earth sucks. Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, Nov 19, 1997 at 12:23:22PM -0600, Marcin Pasek wrote: # Everynight at the same time there is a FIND command that is runned # somehow..and I have no idea how and who is runnig it... $PAGER /etc/daily. Or some other favourite pager of yours, in case $PAGER is not set. This should have been in freebsd-questions. # Marcin -- -mishania From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 19 11:41:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA16560 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 11:41:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from falcon.sourcee.com (falcon.sourcee.com [205.181.248.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA16513 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 11:41:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nrice@falcon.sourcee.com) Received: (from nrice@localhost) by falcon.sourcee.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) id OAA04945; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:41:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19971119144117.09105@sourcee.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:41:17 -0500 From: "Norman C. Rice" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Runnig FIND References: <34732E99.2B026399@v-m.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Description: email message X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84 In-Reply-To: <34732E99.2B026399@v-m.com>; from Marcin Pasek on Wed, Nov 19, 1997 at 12:23:22PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, Nov 19, 1997 at 12:23:22PM -0600, Marcin Pasek wrote: > Everynight at the same time there is a FIND command that is runned > somehow..and I have no idea how and who is runnig it... > > > Marcin > Take a look at /etc/crontab and /etc/daily. I believe they are run at 2:00AM by default. An email should be sent to root detailing the maintenance and security checks performed. -- Regards, Norman C. Rice, Jr. From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 19 11:54:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA18357 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 11:54:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from bert.club-web.com (bert.club-web.com [207.176.196.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA18331 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 11:53:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@club-web.com) Received: from mark.club-web.com (dial-103.club-web.com [207.176.196.23]) by bert.club-web.com (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id OAA24045; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:57:11 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark Segal" To: Cc: Subject: Re: Runnig FIND Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:54:14 -0500 Message-ID: <01bcf524$e9b1c260$0201010a@mark.club-web.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----Original Message----- From: Marcin Pasek To: freebsd Date: Wednesday, November 19, 1997 2:53 PM Subject: Runnig FIND >Everynight at the same time there is a FIND command that is runned >somehow..and I have no idea how and who is runnig it... Have u checked the cron? I think that find is run as part of the security ouput.. mark From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 19 12:12:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA20962 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 12:12:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from home.dragondata.com (toasty@home.dragondata.com [204.137.237.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA20953 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 12:12:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toasty@home.dragondata.com) Received: (from toasty@localhost) by home.dragondata.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA18558; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:12:21 -0600 (CST) From: Kevin Day Message-Id: <199711192012.OAA18558@home.dragondata.com> Subject: Re: Runnig FIND In-Reply-To: <34732E99.2B026399@v-m.com> from Marcin Pasek at "Nov 19, 97 12:23:22 pm" To: marcin@v-m.com Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:12:21 -0600 (CST) Cc: isp@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Everynight at the same time there is a FIND command that is runned > somehow..and I have no idea how and who is runnig it... > > > Marcin > > Look in /etc/daily and /etc/security those are run every night Kevin From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 19 12:28:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA22852 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 12:28:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from toth.ferginc.com (toth.ferginc.com [205.139.23.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA22834 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 12:28:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from branson@toth.ferginc.com) Received: (from branson@localhost) by toth.ferginc.com (You_Can/Keep_Guessing) id PAA19137; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:28:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19971119152813.45925@toth.hq.ferg.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:28:13 -0500 From: Branson Matheson To: marcin@v-m.com Cc: freebsd Subject: Re: Runnig FIND Reply-To: Branson.Matheson@FergInc.com References: <34732E99.2B026399@v-m.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84 In-Reply-To: <34732E99.2B026399@v-m.com>; from Marcin Pasek on Wed, Nov 19, 1997 at 12:23:22PM -0600 Organization: Ferguson Enterprises, Inc. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, Nov 19, 1997 at 12:23:22PM -0600, Marcin Pasek wrote: > Everynight at the same time there is a FIND command that is runned > somehow..and I have no idea how and who is runnig it... Everynight at the same time there is a cronjob that is probably running it.. to find an idea of who/what/how/and why .. try reading the manpage on crontab and running as root 'crontab -l' to see what it is. Next time include some more information.. this question is rather useless. Information should be like when, What the find is doing, what version of the OS you are running, etc... -branson ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Branson Matheson " If you are falling off of a mountain, Unix System Administrator You may as well try to fly." Ferguson Enterprises, Inc. - Delenn, Mimbari Ambassador ( $statements = ) !~ /Corporate Opinion/; From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 19 12:29:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA22904 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 12:29:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from eh.est.is (root@eh.est.is [194.144.208.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA22877 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 12:29:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from totii@est.is) Received: from didda.est.is (ppp-43.est.is [194.144.208.143]) by eh.est.is (8.8.5/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA24079; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 20:28:16 GMT (envelope-from totii@est.is) Message-ID: <34734BE9.41C67EA6@est.is> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 20:28:25 +0000 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=DEor=F0ur?= Ivarsson X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: marcin@v-m.com CC: freebsd Subject: Re: Runnig FIND References: <34732E99.2B026399@v-m.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id MAA22894 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Marcin Pasek wrote: > > Everynight at the same time there is a FIND command that is runned > somehow..and I have no idea how and who is runnig it... > > Marcin the script security in /etc is run over every night and uses find, root gets mail from the security script -- Þórður Ívarsson Thordur Ivarsson Rafeindavirki Electronic technician Norðurgötu 30 Nordurgotu 30 Box 309 Box 309 602 Akureyri 602 Akureyri Ísland Iceland --------------------------------------------- FreeBSD has good features, Some others are full of unwanted features! --------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 19 13:49:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA02384 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:49:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from homer.duff-beer.com (mail@homer.duff-beer.com [194.207.51.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA02367 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:49:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scot@poptart.org) Received: from localhost (scot@localhost) by homer.duff-beer.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA11310; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 21:48:34 GMT Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 21:48:33 +0000 (GMT) From: Scot Elliott To: Marcin Pasek cc: freebsd Subject: Re: Runnig FIND In-Reply-To: <34732E99.2B026399@v-m.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Marcin Pasek wrote: > Everynight at the same time there is a FIND command that is runned > somehow..and I have no idea how and who is runnig it... /etc/daily and /etc/security run every night by default, via cron. /etc/daily uses find to remove scratch files older than a certain date, and /etc/security uses it to find changes in the set-uid-root binaries and report them to root via email. Take a look at /etc/crontab is you want to change the times or stop this happening. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scot Elliott scot@poptart.org Tel: +44 (0)181 8961019 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Public key available by finger at: finger scot@poptart.org or at: http://www.poptart.org/pgpkey.html From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 19 16:17:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA16304 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 16:17:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from rustler.gwc.cccd.edu (rustler.gwc.cccd.edu [159.115.129.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA16295 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 16:17:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mpeer@ponyexpress.gwc.cccd.edu) Received: from mpeer (mpeer.csc.gwc.cccd.edu [159.115.129.100]) by rustler.gwc.cccd.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA20424; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 16:17:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971119162241.00aa4660@rustler.gwc.cccd.edu> X-Sender: mpeer@rustler.gwc.cccd.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 16:22:41 -0800 To: Eddie Fry , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Michael Peer Subject: Re: creating devices In-Reply-To: <200008011733.KAA02033@Wicked.eaznet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk man MAKEDEV In /dev is shell script that does a nice job of creating devices. At 10:33 AM 8/1/00 -0700, Eddie Fry wrote: >I've looked high and low for this, but can't seem to figure it out. > >How do I create device files? > >Thanks, > >Eddie > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Peer Data Electronics Technician I Golden West College Computer Services Center 15744 Goldenwest St. Huntington Beach, CA 92647 e-mail: mpeer@gwc.cccd.edu Voice: (714)892-7711 ext 55067 WWW: http://pioneer.gwc.cccd.edu FAX: (714)895-8980 From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 19 20:01:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA03963 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 20:01:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from bolero.rahul.net (ramnet@bolero.rahul.net [192.160.13.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA03948 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 20:01:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from guna@indo-networks.com) Received: by bolero.rahul.net id AA24644 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for isp@freebsd.org); Wed, 19 Nov 1997 19:58:44 -0800 From: Guna Ramireddy Message-Id: <199711200358.AA24644@bolero.rahul.net> Subject: Re: RIP vs. OSPF To: akl@wup.de, amr@wup.de Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 19:58:43 -0800 (PST) Cc: isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <19971118133310.04039@wup.de> from "Andreas Klemm" at Nov 18, 97 01:33:10 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk NT supports routing protocols including RIP(V1 and V2) and OSPF. But you need get the Steelhead software from MS. You can freely download it from their website, and install it on an NT "server" 4.0 We have been using NT running RIP and OSPF for our small network for months. It has been working surprisingly well. Note, this is for small to midsize networks only. If you don't expect to use fancy routing features, I would use an NT instead of a cisco 4500, you can save a lot of money there. We are impressed with the functionality it delivers, without spending a penny(ofcourse, you need to have an NT server 4.0) GR > > I´m not a dynamic routing expert, so maybe someone could help > me a bit. > > Which routing protocol is available for > - Cisco´s > - Livingston Portmasters > - NT 4.0 Server > - Netware 3 and 4 Servers. > > I´d like to use OSPF for our companies internal network but fear, > that NT doesn´t support this. > > Our network will look like this in the near future: > > Backbone Router (3com or such) > | | | | | | | | > 4-6 100 MBit Segments > | | | | | | | | > | | | | | | | | > | 4-6 10 MBit Segments > | | | +---------- Dial up network customers > | | +------------ Dial up network company > | +-------------- Internet Gateway Segment > +------ externel Network carrier > | > Cisco Router (2503) > | > Frame Relay (Network of external Carrier) > | > Cisco Router (2503) > | > +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+ > | | | | | | | | > | | R-- Our ext. Office 1 > | R----- Our ext. Office 2 > | ... > R-----NT MPR--- Our ext. Office 3 with > + + NT Server as Router > | | > | +---- LAN 1 in ext. Office 3 > +------- LAN 2 in ext. Office 3 > > What dynamic Routing protocol would be best in this situation ? > If our Offices get subnets of their own, it would be fine not > having to deal with static routes. I´m sure, that a NT 4.0 Server > will become a router in the offices, to create 2 or 3 subnetworks. > > So I think we have to use an interior routing protocol, that is > supported by most or all components. > > - Should I use rip or OSPF ??? > - Does NT Support OSPF ??? > - What´s better, RIP or OSPF ??? > - Any good source of information ??? > > Thanks in advance > > Andreas /// > > -- > Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH phone: +49 2173 3964 161 > Support Unix - Andreas Klemm fax: +49 2173 3964 222 > An der alten Ziegelei 2 mail1: andreas.klemm@wup.de > D-40789 Monheim mail2: andreas@FreeBSD.ORG > From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 19 21:27:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA09017 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 21:27:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from breadfruit.seychelles.net (breadfruit.seychelles.net [202.84.227.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA09010 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 21:27:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from muditha@seychelles.net) Received: from Atlas.seychelles.net (cocosey@[202.84.227.21]) by breadfruit.seychelles.net (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id FAA09039; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 05:28:06 GMT Message-ID: <3473C88E.2249@seychelles.net> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:20:14 +0400 From: Muditha Gunatilake Reply-To: muditha@seychelles.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: marcin@v-m.com CC: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Running find Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Everynight at the same time there is a FIND command that is runned >somehow..and I have no idea how and who is runnig it... This is part of te cron and is run for security. -- --------------------- Muditha Gunatilake Atlas Seychelles Ltd Phone:+248 304060 Fax :+248 324565 email: muditha@seychelles.net mbh3gpa@afs.mcc.ac.uk muditha@creole.seychelles.net :-) From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 19 21:35:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA09758 for isp-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 21:35:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from super-g.inch.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA09733 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 21:34:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from spork@super-g.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.inch.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA15539; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 00:27:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 00:27:57 -0500 (EST) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: "James E. Marker" cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newfeed size? In-Reply-To: <01bcf3ca$ebb85200$6e54d8cd@z9a2d9> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk First of all, it really varies... We're running dnews and some days the expire kicks in a few hours early due to a huge jump in volume. Going from an expire report from a few weeks ago, we were pulling down about 2.5 Gigs on an "average" day, but it really peaks every now and then. We have two feeds, which really does seem to fill things in nicely, but it is mostly crap. We junk anything crossposted to more than 5 groups and refuse messages above 500K. --This is a snapshot from a day when one of the feeds was down: Sites that have sent us articles since the last expire: Site Posts Rejects Dup Total Articles/S Kbytes/s 207.106.0.20 242832 48484 412 291316 4.70 37.65 2335547k 204.74.114.90 0 0 0 0 0.00 0.00 0k --And for fun, what gets read... Top 40 groups sorted by number of articles read Group Reads KBytes alt.binaries.nospam.teenfem 8927 741359k alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.orientals 4869 413639k alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.pre-teen 4031 282611k alt.mag.playboy 3580 1168196k alt.binaries.erotica.female.plumpers 3490 232160k alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.amateur.female 3376 530379k alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.early-teens 3324 126401k alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.teen.female 3258 186378k alt.binaries.pictures.bluebird 3112 188244k alt.amazon-women.admirers 2705 102414k alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.teen.male 2452 244600k alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.oral 2438 366497k alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.young 2417 58448k alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.female.anal 2395 132620k Charles Sprickman spork@super-g.com ---- "I'm not a prophet or a stone-age man Just a mortal with potential of a superman I'm living on" -DB On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, James E. Marker wrote: > How big is a pretty complete newsfeed? I just got my feed turned on and it has already used up almost a gig in less than half a day. What is normal? I am getting about 28,000 groups from mci. > > Jim... > From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 20 08:05:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA14005 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 08:05:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA14000 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 08:05:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff@mercury.jorsm.com) Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost) by mercury.jorsm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA04737; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:05:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:05:36 -0600 (CST) From: Jeff Lynch To: Scot Elliott cc: Marcin Pasek , freebsd Subject: Re: Runnig FIND In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Scot Elliott wrote: > On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Marcin Pasek wrote: > Take a look at /etc/crontab is you want to change the times or stop this > happening. Anyone know why "crontab -l" and "crontab -e" look in /var/cron/tabs but the default root crontab is in /etc/crontab? IMHO, it would be nicer to have these files merged into one and default to /var/cron/tabs/root. ========================================================================= Jeffrey A. Lynch, President JORSM Internet email: jeff@jorsm.com Northwest Indiana's Full-Service Provider Voice: (219)322-2180 927 Sheffield Avenue, Dyer, IN 46311 Autoresponse: info@jorsm.com http://www.jorsm.com From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 20 09:35:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA20397 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:35:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from sinbin.demos.su (sinbin.demos.su [194.87.5.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA20392 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:35:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bag@sinbin.demos.su) Received: by sinbin.demos.su id UAA17537; (8.6.12/D) Thu, 20 Nov 1997 20:33:49 +0300 From: bag@sinbin.demos.su (Alex G. Bulushev) Message-Id: <199711201733.UAA17537@sinbin.demos.su> Subject: Re: Runnig FIND In-Reply-To: from "Jeff Lynch" at "Nov 20, 97 10:05:36 am" X-ELM-OSV: (Our standard violations) no-mime=1; no-hdr-encoding=1 To: jeff@mercury.jorsm.com (Jeff Lynch) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 20:33:49 +0300 (MSK) Cc: scot@poptart.org, marcin@v-m.com, isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Scot Elliott wrote: > > > On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Marcin Pasek wrote: > > Take a look at /etc/crontab is you want to change the times or stop this > > happening. > > Anyone know why "crontab -l" and "crontab -e" look in /var/cron/tabs > but the default root crontab is in /etc/crontab? IMHO, it would be nicer ^^^^^^^^^^^^ this is for compatibility Alex. > to have these files merged into one and default to /var/cron/tabs/root. > > ========================================================================= > Jeffrey A. Lynch, President JORSM Internet > email: jeff@jorsm.com Northwest Indiana's Full-Service Provider > Voice: (219)322-2180 927 Sheffield Avenue, Dyer, IN 46311 > Autoresponse: info@jorsm.com http://www.jorsm.com > > From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 20 12:02:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA02158 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 12:02:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA02145 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 12:02:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gurney_j@efn.org) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA07716; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 12:02:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19971120120222.01670@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 12:02:22 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Jeff Lynch Cc: freebsd Subject: Re: Runnig FIND References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: ; from Jeff Lynch on Thu, Nov 20, 1997 at 10:05:36AM -0600 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jeff Lynch scribbled this message on Nov 20: > On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Scot Elliott wrote: > > > On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Marcin Pasek wrote: > > Take a look at /etc/crontab is you want to change the times or stop this > > happening. > > Anyone know why "crontab -l" and "crontab -e" look in /var/cron/tabs > but the default root crontab is in /etc/crontab? IMHO, it would be nicer > to have these files merged into one and default to /var/cron/tabs/root. because /etc/crontab ISN'T root's default cron tab.. it has a different format that allows you to specify which user runs the command... -- John-Mark Gurney Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 Cu Networking Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 20 13:39:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA10204 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 13:39:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from dream.future.net (root@future.net [204.130.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA10199 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 13:39:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tomthai@future.net) Received: from dream.future.net (tomthai@future.net [204.130.134.1]) by dream.future.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA09007; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 15:37:07 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 15:37:06 -0600 (CST) From: "Tom T. Thai" To: linuxisp@friendly.jeffnet.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: radiusclient users? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk could I get a show of hands to see who uses radiusclient (by Lars), patched ppp2.2.0f (by Godec, and Map)? I'm writing documentation for it and have lots of questions. There currently seems to be lots of patches and login.radius around, and I want to pull them all together. I think this would be very helpful for everyone who uses radiusclient. I'm aware of portslave also, but I think radiusclient is more modular so I am leaning toward radiusclient. Here one interesting thing I just found out when I was playing around with mgetty+autoppp, radiusclient, and pppd-radius: Assume auto ppp detection is in progress and mgetty passes the call to pppd-radius. Even though pppd-radius doesn't actually need login.radius, login.radius should still exit in the path for pppd-radius to authenticate the user. Here is a would be FAQ: Assume you are running RADIUS2.0.1 and the user profile uses Framed-IP-Address = 255.255.255.254 or Framed-IP-Address = 255.255.255.255, how do you tell pppd-radius to assign the proper IP? In the first case, radiusclient or pppd-radius have to pick an available IP from an assigned IP pool just like the Portmasters or use the port IP from /etc/ppp/options.ttyR0 or so. In the second case, radiusclient/pppd-radius should use the "user" picked IP. Currently radiusclient/pppd-radius doesn't support that directly, but I suppose you could parse the parameter using login.radius (but not with the current radiusd-ppp, unless it's thru ip-up, etc.) Also, some of you probably do some kind of filtering and such... So let's see a show of hand that is willing to help. I'll post my work in progress at http://www.future.net/~tomthai/radius. .............. .................................... Thomas T. Thai Infomedia Interactive Communications tom@iic.net TEL 612.376.9090 * FAX 612.376.9087 From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 20 13:57:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA11789 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 13:57:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA11780 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 13:57:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff@mercury.jorsm.com) Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost) by mercury.jorsm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA19777; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 15:57:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 15:57:49 -0600 (CST) From: Jeff Lynch To: John-Mark Gurney cc: freebsd Subject: Re: Runnig FIND In-Reply-To: <19971120120222.01670@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > because /etc/crontab ISN'T root's default cron tab.. it has a different > format that allows you to specify which user runs the command... Thanks for the clarification. ========================================================================= Jeffrey A. Lynch, President JORSM Internet email: jeff@jorsm.com Northwest Indiana's Full-Service Provider Voice: (219)322-2180 927 Sheffield Avenue, Dyer, IN 46311 Autoresponse: info@jorsm.com http://www.jorsm.com From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 20 14:56:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA16068 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 14:56:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from wicked.eaznet.com ([209.75.156.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA16026 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 14:56:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eddie@wicked.eaznet.com) Received: (from eddie@localhost) by wicked.eaznet.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id PAA21107; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 15:58:48 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <19971120155847.54387@wicked.eaznet.com.> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 15:58:47 -0700 From: Eddie Fry To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Mutt Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.74e Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk have recently downloaded Mutt from the ports collection onto my 2.2.2 box. Everything seemed to install correctly. However, when I run mutt, I get an error: Need to be running setgid 7 to lock mailbox! How do I resolve this problem? I read the FAQ at Merit and they say to set mail up to put the mail file in my home directory, but I don't want to do that. Is there another way?? thanks, Eddie From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 20 15:09:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA17256 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 15:09:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from gw.elgo.si (gw.elgo.si [195.246.16.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA17230 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 15:09:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from isp@elgo.si) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by gw.elgo.si (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA28598; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 00:08:45 +0100 Received: from crv.elgo.si(192.168.10.10) by gw.elgo.si via smap (V2.0) id xma028596; Fri, 21 Nov 97 00:08:38 +0100 Received: from localhost (isp@localhost) by crv.elgo.si (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA17604; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 00:08:37 +0100 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 00:08:37 +0100 (CET) From: isp Reply-To: isp To: "Tom T. Thai" cc: linuxisp@friendly.jeffnet.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: radiusclient users? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, Tom T. Thai wrote: > could I get a show of hands to see who uses radiusclient (by Lars), > patched ppp2.2.0f (by Godec, and Map)? > We're using it all right :)) > I'm writing documentation for it and have lots of questions. There > currently seems to be lots of patches and login.radius around, and I want > to pull them all together. > Nice ! But login.radius is quite site specific. > I think this would be very helpful for everyone who uses radiusclient. > I'm aware of portslave also, but I think radiusclient is more modular so > I am leaning toward radiusclient. > Me too :)) Avtualy I'm too lasy or busy to test new thing when my current setup works. Maybe sometime :)) > Here one interesting thing I just found out when I was playing around with > mgetty+autoppp, radiusclient, and pppd-radius: > > Assume auto ppp detection is in progress and mgetty passes the call to > pppd-radius. Even though pppd-radius doesn't actually need login.radius, > login.radius should still exit in the path for pppd-radius to authenticate > the user. > I don't think so, but it could be. Actualy I don't even use login.radius but some other script. > Here is a would be FAQ: > > Assume you are running RADIUS2.0.1 and the user profile uses > Framed-IP-Address = 255.255.255.254 or Framed-IP-Address = > 255.255.255.255, how do you tell pppd-radius to assign the proper IP? In > the first case, radiusclient or pppd-radius have to pick an available IP > from an assigned IP pool just like the Portmasters or use the port IP > from /etc/ppp/options.ttyR0 or so. Yes, the first case do so. > In the second case, > radiusclient/pppd-radius should use the "user" picked IP. Currently > radiusclient/pppd-radius doesn't support that directly, but I suppose you > could parse the parameter using login.radius (but not with the current > radiusd-ppp, unless it's thru ip-up, etc.) > It does ! This stuff is in the patched pppd-radius so it should work ! If You are using radius.login (so user has to login and do scripting), than login.radius needs to setup proper IP, but if You are using PAP to authenticate then login.radius is never called and pppd-radius sets up IP from radius server. > Also, some of you probably do some kind of filtering and such... > That would be nice some day. > So let's see a show of hand that is willing to help. I'll post my work in > progress at http://www.future.net/~tomthai/radius. > There is basicly two types of users login: One with autoPPP detection and one thru ordinary session. With AutoPPP pppd has to do all the work (and that is why I did the patches in the first place), In the other case, some program login.radius or something defined in radiusclient.conf should do the parsing and start proper pppd session. There is basical stuff in pppd-radius which I needed and some extension which Miguel A.L. Paraz added and he also cleaned and combined all the thing in some form. All the work is based, and I think he should get all the credits, on Lars Fenneberg 's radiusclient library. From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 20 16:14:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA23022 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 16:14:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from dream.future.net (root@future.net [204.130.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA23006 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 16:14:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tomthai@future.net) Received: from dream.future.net (tomthai@future.net [204.130.134.1]) by dream.future.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id SAA11551; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 18:09:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 18:09:20 -0600 (CST) From: "Tom T. Thai" To: isp cc: linuxisp@friendly.jeffnet.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: radiusclient users? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 21 Nov 1997, isp wrote: > > Assume you are running RADIUS2.0.1 and the user profile uses > > Framed-IP-Address = 255.255.255.254 or Framed-IP-Address = > > 255.255.255.255, how do you tell pppd-radius to assign the proper IP? In > > the first case, radiusclient or pppd-radius have to pick an available IP > > from an assigned IP pool just like the Portmasters or use the port IP > > from /etc/ppp/options.ttyR0 or so. > Yes, the first case do so. > > > In the second case, > > radiusclient/pppd-radius should use the "user" picked IP. Currently > > radiusclient/pppd-radius doesn't support that directly, but I suppose you > > could parse the parameter using login.radius (but not with the current > > radiusd-ppp, unless it's thru ip-up, etc.) > > > It does ! > This stuff is in the patched pppd-radius so it should work ! > If You are using radius.login (so user has to login and do scripting), > than login.radius needs to setup proper IP, but if You are using PAP to > authenticate then login.radius is never called and pppd-radius sets up IP > from radius server. try putting Framed-IP-Address = 255.255.255.255 in your users file on the RADIUS server. Then login via ppp-radius and look at the log. I tried this with /etc/ppp/option.ttyR0 having '204.130.134.6:204.130.134.70' and ppp-radius will use 255.255.255.255 as it's IP for that port. /var/log/messages will show that too. .............. .................................... Thomas T. Thai Infomedia Interactive Communications tom@iic.net TEL 612.376.9090 * FAX 612.376.9087 From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 20 19:48:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA07945 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 19:48:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from the.oneinsane.net (link2.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA07887 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 19:48:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from insane@oneinsane.net) Received: from killa.oneinsane.net (killa.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.242]) by the.oneinsane.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA21490; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 19:47:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971120193926.039fac20@the.oneinsane.net> X-Sender: insane@the.oneinsane.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 19:39:26 -0800 To: Eddie Fry From: Ron Rosson Subject: Re: Mutt Cc: isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <19971120155847.54387@wicked.eaznet.com.> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Eddie: Check the file permission on the executable.. It is something that needs to be fixed in the install. At 03:58 PM 11/20/97 -0700, you wrote: > have recently downloaded Mutt from the ports collection onto my 2.2.2 box. Everything seemed to install correctly. However, when I run mutt, I get an error: > >Need to be running setgid 7 to lock mailbox! > >How do I resolve this problem? I read the FAQ at Merit and they say to set mail up to put the mail file in my home directory, but I don't want to do that. Is there another way?? > >thanks, > >Eddie > > -------------------------------------------------------- Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... rlr@n2.net rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was null and void -------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 21 00:16:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA22401 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 00:16:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from gw.elgo.si (gw.elgo.si [195.246.16.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA22392 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 00:16:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from isp@elgo.si) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by gw.elgo.si (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA00013; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 09:16:22 +0100 Received: from crv.elgo.si(192.168.10.10) by gw.elgo.si via smap (V2.0) id xma000011; Fri, 21 Nov 97 09:16:06 +0100 Received: from localhost (isp@localhost) by crv.elgo.si (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA18115; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 09:15:38 +0100 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 09:15:38 +0100 (CET) From: isp To: "Tom T. Thai" cc: linuxisp@friendly.jeffnet.org, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: radiusclient users? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, Tom T. Thai wrote: > On Fri, 21 Nov 1997, isp wrote: > > try putting Framed-IP-Address = 255.255.255.255 in your users file on the > RADIUS server. Then login via ppp-radius and look at the log. I tried > this with /etc/ppp/option.ttyR0 having '204.130.134.6:204.130.134.70' and > ppp-radius will use 255.255.255.255 as it's IP for that port. > /var/log/messages will show that too. > Oh yes, I've just looked at the code. Well don't put Framed-IP-Address = 255.255.255.255. Just let it be empty for default ppp user. For users with static IPs You specify the address. lp gody From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 21 11:15:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA02988 for isp-outgoing; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:15:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from relay2.mail.uk.psi.net (sys1.london.uk.psi.net [154.32.108.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA02975 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:14:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robmel@nadt.org.uk) Received: from sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net (sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net [154.32.106.14]) by relay2.mail.uk.psi.net (8.8.4/) with ESMTP id TAA26822; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 19:14:52 GMT Received: by sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net (8.8.5/SMI-5.5-UKPSINet) id TAA26662; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 19:10:14 GMT Received: from infodev.nadt.org.uk (infodev.nadt.org.uk [172.16.99.205]) by charlie.nadt.org.uk (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA22161; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:22:25 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19971121182225.007db8d0@wrcmail> X-Sender: robmel@wrcmail X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:22:25 +0000 To: Andreas Klemm From: Robin Melville Subject: Re: PostgreSQL for Yellow Pages implementation Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19971110181136.45756@klemm.gtn.com> References: <199711071458.JAA15692@doleh.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 18:11 10/11/97 +0100, you wrote: >On Mon, Nov 10, 1997 at 12:40:13PM +0200, Amjad R. Alsharif wrote: >> >> Dear Sir / Madam, >> >> Please do bear withme since I do not know the best approach to present >> you with my immediate need to implement PostgreSQL. >> >> I need to establish an Online "Yellow Pages" to serve the business >> communite within Jerusalem area so I have been looking into different databases [Andreas Klemm wrote...] >Postgresql is a really nice database ... >> 3. Do you think that PostgreSQL is the right product for such a project? > >Yes I think so. You might also think about "mysql". It rather depends how much data you are planning to handle. If small amounts, and speed is not an issue, postgresql is fine... if large then try mysql -- it has far less features but is much quicker and seems more robust. I recently stress-tested them both and discovered that 250,000 updates on postgresql took 1 hour 10 minutes, on Mysql just 9 minutes. Simple joined selects on the trial database were at least 3 times quicker on mysql than on pgress (which also ran out of memory sometimes). A further possibility is "msql" which has a tiny subset of SQL functionality but is well supported for web access. A reasonably fully featured commercial alternative which works well on FreeBSD is Yard (http://www.yard.de/). Regards Robin. -------------------------------------------------------- Robin Melville, Addiction & Forensic Information Service Nottingham Alcohol & Drug Team (Extn. 49178) Vox: +44 (0)115 952 9478 Fax: +44 (0)115 952 9421 Email: robmel@nadt.org.uk WWW: http://www.innotts.co.uk/nadt/ --------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 22 00:44:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA23225 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 00:44:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from tahoe.cinenet.net (root@ns1.cinenet.net [198.147.76.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA23210 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 00:44:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sraja@cinenet.net) Received: from hollywood.cinenet.net (hollywood.cinenet.net [198.147.76.75]) by tahoe.cinenet.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA27851 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 00:44:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (sraja@localhost) by hollywood.cinenet.net (8.7.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA12632 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 00:44:24 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: hollywood.cinenet.net: sraja owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 00:44:24 -0800 (PST) From: Suresh Rajagopalan To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Ethernet card for NFS server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk For a Freebsd NFS server, I'm looking for a NIC with a decent amount of cache memory. Most of the 10/100 NIC's on the market have very small buffer caches, typically < 8k . This used to be a big problem in the ISA/EISA days. Is it no longer a problem with the PCI NIC's? Thanks Suresh From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 22 05:17:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id FAA05049 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 05:17:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.238.120.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA05007 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 05:17:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paulo@nlink.com.br) Received: from localhost (paulo@localhost) by mirage.nlink.com.br (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA27202 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 10:22:25 -0300 (EST) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 10:22:25 -0300 (EST) From: Paulo Fragoso To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Mail.local & Majordomo Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I try modify mail.local program to it don't send messages to quota exceded users, that's ok. But Majordomo program send the same message many times to same user if there are any user in list file whith quota exceded. Are there any solution for Majordomo (v1.94.3) program to work fine whith patched mail.local? Many Thanks, Paulo Fragoso. From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 22 10:46:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA19077 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 10:46:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from gwis.com (droberts@darcy.gwis.com [209.57.72.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA19067 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 10:46:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from droberts@gwis.com) Received: from localhost (droberts@localhost) by gwis.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA00500 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 13:46:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 13:46:26 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Roberts To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: freebsd equiv of inittab Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm attempting to set up automatic shutdown on my ISP's FreeBSD servers when the power runs out on our UPS. The only suitable daemons I could find for the task are powerd and upsd, both intended for use with Linux. The problem I run into is that Linux has /etc/inittab and FreeBSD does not. I'm sure there's got to either be a FreeBSD version of upsd out there, or at the very least a BSD equivelent of inittab so that I can hack the daemon.. can anyone help me with this? Thanks! -- Dan Roberts, http://gwis.com/~droberts Gateway to Internet Services sysadmin/ircadmin, barovia.oh.us.dal.net for Internet access in NE Ohio http://barovia.dal.net - Strahd on DALnet http://www.gwis.com From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 22 12:58:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA25585 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 12:58:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from implode.root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA25580 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 12:58:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA08765; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 13:00:49 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711222100.NAA08765@implode.root.com> To: Suresh Rajagopalan cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ethernet card for NFS server In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 22 Nov 1997 00:44:24 PST." From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 13:00:49 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >For a Freebsd NFS server, I'm looking for a NIC with a decent amount of >cache memory. Most of the 10/100 NIC's on the market have very small >buffer caches, typically < 8k . > >This used to be a big problem in the ISA/EISA days. Is it no longer a >problem with the PCI NIC's? PCI ethernet cards such as the 'de' and 'fxp' cards do PCI DMA and don't need more than about 2K of fifo RAM to assure reliable packet delivery. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 22 16:22:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA06514 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 16:22:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from ns1.syix.com (root@206-245-231-9.ipv4.intur.net [206.245.231.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA06500 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 16:22:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dave@syix.com) Received: from cage.syix.com (cage.syix.com [209.60.182.130]) by ns1.syix.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA26833 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 16:22:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19971122162146.008f6624@syix.com> X-Sender: dave@syix.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 16:21:46 -0800 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Dave Overton Subject: SCSI Card - Best Supported? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On the subject of SCSI cards, I am going to be getting a few to replace some old narrow cards/drives. What SCSI card is BEST supported by FreeBSD? Not just "supported" but REALLY supported, i.e. runs all the bells and whistles that the card uses. I understand that the Adaptec drivers are "not optimized" so what drivers are? Ultra Wide only of course. Any factual info is appreciated. Dave From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 22 16:30:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA06849 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 16:30:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from email.polaccess.com (polaccess.com [205.166.42.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA06844 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 16:30:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from webmaster@polaccess.com) Received: from [205.166.42.125] by email.polaccess.com (SMTPD32-3.03) id ADC15740124; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 18:22:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3478C8CB.375D@polaccess.com> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 18:22:35 -0600 From: Marcin Pasek Reply-To: webmaster@polaccess.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: HTTPD question.... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I know that one of you guys will know that right away. When I install Web server on FREEBSD the firs time it starts the deamon from a file which one is it... I thiought it was a RC file in /etc but I couldn't find enything...HELP Marcin From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Nov 22 16:55:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA07905 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 16:55:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp) Received: from marlin.exis.net (root@marlin.exis.net [205.252.72.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA07899 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 16:55:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stefan@exis.net) Received: from sailfish.exis.net (sailfish.exis.net [205.252.72.104]) by marlin.exis.net (8.8.4/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA23823; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 19:55:21 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 19:41:02 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Molnar To: Marcin Pasek cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: HTTPD question.... In-Reply-To: <3478C8CB.375D@polaccess.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Look in /usr/local/etc/rc.d and the file is apache.sh Stefan > I know that one of you guys will know that right away. When I install > Web server on FREEBSD the firs time it starts the deamon from a file > which one is it... I thiought it was a RC file in /etc but I couldn't > find enything...HELP > > > Marcin >