From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Jan 5 07:14:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id HAA02285 for mobile-outgoing; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 07:14:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from trapdoor.aracnet.com (root@trapdoor.aracnet.com [204.188.47.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id HAA02280 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 07:14:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from eris.beattie.aracnet.com (ppp-h11.aracnet.com [204.188.47.204]) by trapdoor.aracnet.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA26849; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 07:15:05 -0800 Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 07:10:19 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Beattie X-Sender: beattie@eris.beattie.aracnet.com To: Kazutaka YOKOTA cc: mobile@freebsd.org, Nate Williams Subject: Re: Tecra 730 In-Reply-To: <199701050759.QAA24361@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Sun, 5 Jan 1997, Kazutaka YOKOTA wrote: > > I think there can be two possible reasons why the keyboard looks > locked up while the mouse continues to work: > > The first possibility is that this is real lock up; the keyboard and > the keyboard controller cannot communicate properly. Communication > MAY be restored by instructing the keyboard controller to test the > keyboard port. This can be done from the console driver, but in > practice it would be difficult for the driver to decide when it should > do it. > > The second possible explanation is that due to a lost keyboard > interrupt, shift, ctrl, alt, num lock, or whatever shift/lock state > change is not seen by the console driver or the X server and a key > stroke is not interpreted properly, thus, the keyboard looks locked up > despite that key scan codes are received by the console driver. You > may be able to recover from this by tapping these shift/lock keys > several times. The interrupt problem existed before, and we have been > hoping to eliminate it with the new syscons/psm/kbdio drivers, but... > > >> The keyboard still locks up under X + fvwm-1.24r, restarting the X > >> server brings the keyboard back. > > > >*sigh* I suspect you could switch to another virtual terminal and do the > >same thing, but w/out a keyboard it's kinda hard. :( > > Well, it appears that the second explanation above is more likely to > be the case, as I don't think resetting the X server affect the state > of the data line between the keyboard and the keyboard controller in > any way. > I'll try the hitting the shift/ctrl/alt/num lock keys while the keyboard is locked up and see what happens and let you know the results. Brian Beattie | From an MIT job ad "Applicants must also have http://www.aracnet.com/~beattie | extensive knowledge of UNIX, although they beattie@aracnet.com | should have sufficently good programming taste Fax (503)331-8186 | to not consider this an achievement." -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMs/EF1QwtztGaITFAQGBUwQAqxuRZo65biu0kG5hqzEs+Q/T0iqx3A1y K3nFa0bxIS/aO0vzPgiIfWTXW2eAf1fHzUIVRC7UcgMI54/YUS5+Rhf6+G9m2dbL 5W4q51rRe8m5v8SQ32Mp5x97qikjhyc03ts4cyEkGPZFhpGNkSkoVqDxQ6dHjHWC YinzZhaFMCs= =Jctm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Jan 5 07:18:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id HAA02387 for mobile-outgoing; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 07:18:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from trapdoor.aracnet.com (root@trapdoor.aracnet.com [204.188.47.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id HAA02382 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 07:18:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from eris.beattie.aracnet.com (ppp-h11.aracnet.com [204.188.47.204]) by trapdoor.aracnet.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA27051; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 07:19:23 -0800 Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 07:14:37 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Beattie X-Sender: beattie@eris.beattie.aracnet.com To: Nate Williams cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tecra 730 In-Reply-To: <199701050638.XAA15801@rocky.mt.sri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Sat, 4 Jan 1997, Nate Williams wrote: > [ 3C589C ] > > > You've already tried messing with the link flags, correct? Try messing > > > with the link2 flag as well. > > > > > I have tried various combinations but I'll give it another go. > > Thanks. Are you using the ep0 driver or the zp0 driver? If the former, > then you have to stop/restart pccard everytime you modify > /etc/pccard.conf to mess with the link flags. > > I've never had any luck changing the luck with changing the link flags on an ethernet card once they were set. Maybe I just did not understand what I was seeing. So I have been rebooting. When you say stop/restart pccard, do you mean remove/reinsert the pccard or is there something else I need to do. Brian Beattie | From an MIT job ad "Applicants must also have http://www.aracnet.com/~beattie | extensive knowledge of UNIX, although they beattie@aracnet.com | should have sufficently good programming taste Fax (503)331-8186 | to not consider this an achievement." -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMs/FTlQwtztGaITFAQH5KQQAwwFZhn1G5CDhHyweQ6215hpE0YSH3s5y BI1Qctc+z1wLvDe16HtwgaqgOszGjhe/0a46jAfW/C5mlIw/AZAwVt/QV3fcnKG+ +AmzQ4lZyDNWsU7oVSEBB6e9P6TS/4JIg+Z2DMyWl9B/Cg/te9Jnw6sJRKbYrAu4 THpTpi1Sh4Y= =IulQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Jan 5 08:20:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id IAA04629 for mobile-outgoing; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 08:20:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id IAA04622 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 08:20:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA17006; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 09:20:43 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 09:20:43 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199701051620.JAA17006@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Brian Beattie Cc: Nate Williams , mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tecra 730 In-Reply-To: References: <199701050638.XAA15801@rocky.mt.sri.com> Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Thanks. Are you using the ep0 driver or the zp0 driver? If the former, > > then you have to stop/restart pccard everytime you modify > > /etc/pccard.conf to mess with the link flags. > > I've never had any luck changing the luck with changing the link > flags on an ethernet card once they were set. Maybe I just did not > understand what I was seeing. So I have been rebooting. So are you using the ep0 driver or the zp0 driver? > When you say stop/restart pccard, do you mean remove/reinsert the > pccard or is there something else I need to do. Which driver are you running? Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Jan 5 14:47:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA18273 for mobile-outgoing; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 14:47:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from indurain.cse.ogi.edu (indurain.cse.ogi.edu [129.95.50.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA18268 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 14:47:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by indurain.cse.ogi.edu with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA01952; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 14:47:44 -0800 Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 14:47:43 -0800 (PST) From: Jon Inouye To: "Eric A. Griff" Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cellular Modems, what is best In-Reply-To: <199701050318.WAA09574@global2000.net> Message-Id: Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute of Science & Technology Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 4 Jan 1997, Eric A. Griff wrote: > I will be purchasing a cellular modem in the near future, and was > wondering what are the best. (as far as reliability, speed, and configurability > in that order). > I would appreciate any feedback. Thank you in advance. > Eric Data Communications did performed an evaluation last year. You can see their results via the Web. Their pick was the Xircom card (not support by FreeBSD). http://www.data.com/Lab_Tests/Cellular_Modems_Hurry_Up.html I'm using an APEX 28.8 data/fax/celluar card with a Nokia 2160 phone. I thought about the Megahertz and Motorola PC cards but at the time (Sept. 1996) they didn't have cables for the 2160. So I really bought the modem that worked with the phone. Voice is more important than data for me. I'm usually able to connect within three tries and achieve throughputs around 9600 baud using the cellular modem pool. I rarely get disconnected for the majority of my sessions (which last around 10 minutes). My APEX card has no circuit protection mechanisms for digital phones so I have to be careful to avoid ISDN RJ-11 jacks. -- Jon Inouye EMAIL: jinouye@cse.ogi.edu Distributed Systems Research Group WWW : http://www.cse.ogi.edu/~jinouye/ Computer Science and Eng. Dept. PHONE: (503) 690-1009, FAX: (503) 690-1553 Oregon Graduate Institute of Science & Technology (aka OGI) From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Jan 6 04:24:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id EAA02085 for mobile-outgoing; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 04:24:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from trapdoor.aracnet.com (root@trapdoor.aracnet.com [204.188.47.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id EAA02080 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 04:24:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from eris.beattie.aracnet.com (ppp-h12.aracnet.com [204.188.47.205]) by trapdoor.aracnet.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA21121; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 04:24:21 -0800 Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 04:19:37 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Beattie X-Sender: beattie@eris.beattie.aracnet.com To: Nate Williams cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tecra 730 In-Reply-To: <199701051620.JAA17006@rocky.mt.sri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Sun, 5 Jan 1997, Nate Williams wrote: > > > Thanks. Are you using the ep0 driver or the zp0 driver? If the former, > > > then you have to stop/restart pccard everytime you modify > > > /etc/pccard.conf to mess with the link flags. > > > > I've never had any luck changing the luck with changing the link > > flags on an ethernet card once they were set. Maybe I just did not > > understand what I was seeing. So I have been rebooting. > > So are you using the ep0 driver or the zp0 driver? > > > When you say stop/restart pccard, do you mean remove/reinsert the > > pccard or is there something else I need to do. > > Which driver are you running? > I using the ep0 driver with the PAO-961215 patches. I now have it working and can use either the UTP or the BNC connector at will. for the BNC I added -link0 link1 -link2, for the UTP I added link0 - -link1 -link2. I did not test all permutations so this may is probably over kill, but it works. Brian Beattie | From an MIT job ad "Applicants must also have http://www.aracnet.com/~beattie | extensive knowledge of UNIX, although they beattie@aracnet.com | should have sufficently good programming taste Fax (503)331-8186 | to not consider this an achievement." -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMtDtz1QwtztGaITFAQFYBgP+PpTncKFv3o4sFtDt8g3euYDZ8G/TSh0Y eDidcS6ZhlMWJLsbUlZ6bTAJsxHxGrPzTAGQOn+/clixVyrRYl8diHKdxZAi7Zf/ ZgLK6qDoMhlLtO/WMtItrRbul94Zgy0dXfH7teJ8D4lDCkMvU7j6engikN/qxIa5 /TCBlZecH10= =WlVq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Jan 6 04:37:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id EAA02483 for mobile-outgoing; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 04:37:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from trapdoor.aracnet.com (root@trapdoor.aracnet.com [204.188.47.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id EAA02474 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 04:37:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from eris.beattie.aracnet.com (ppp-h12.aracnet.com [204.188.47.205]) by trapdoor.aracnet.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA21542; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 04:36:37 -0800 Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 04:31:53 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Beattie X-Sender: beattie@eris.beattie.aracnet.com To: Kazutaka YOKOTA cc: mobile@freebsd.org, Nate Williams Subject: Tecra 730 keyboard problem update In-Reply-To: <199701050759.QAA24361@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Now that I have got the network card working to my statisfaction, I am running X. I have seen two keyborad lockups so far. One did not respond to any of the shift/control/alt keys so far as I can tell but it also did not clear on server reset. The second one I did not try the shift/control/alt keys but it did clear on server reset. I did notice each time that there was a "click" of the disk drive almost as if there was a disk sync just as the keyboard locked up. I will keep trying to see if I can get any more information, if there is anything anybody can think of that I can try, to trap this problem let me know. Other than the keyboard, it is working great. Thanks Brian Beattie | From an MIT job ad "Applicants must also have http://www.aracnet.com/~beattie | extensive knowledge of UNIX, although they beattie@aracnet.com | should have sufficently good programming taste Fax (503)331-8186 | to not consider this an achievement." -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMtDwrVQwtztGaITFAQGVtgP+NNVOMAIHJ7WhmadDZIRTNZaZ/RhSnign 5LFxE14JUvIWvwin4nLfna2kS49Am6waO8m4zhT67IQY/zkepnzeG6Jhds2Muyya 7Bpb0s28rMf9gx80cfRQM/8f2GxkOYURpsTF/OiqeIuRx+G6xlBnpWouJaEP/JUr GgKlbGH3zl8= =UV5t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Jan 6 22:34:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id WAA01813 for mobile-outgoing; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:34:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from nasu.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (nasu.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.128.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA01807 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:33:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by nasu.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (5.57/ULTRIX-940302) id AA11554; Tue, 7 Jan 97 15:32:09 +0900 Received: by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (5.57/ULTRIX-940909) id AA10388; Tue, 7 Jan 97 15:32:08 +0900 Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zenith.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.33.60]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id PAA05864; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 15:35:35 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199701070635.PAA05864@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: Brian Beattie Cc: mobile@freebsd.org, Nate Williams , yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: Tecra 730 keyboard problem update In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 06 Jan 1997 04:31:53 PST." References: Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 15:35:34 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Now that I have got the network card working to my statisfaction, I >am running X. I have seen two keyborad lockups so far. One did not >respond to any of the shift/control/alt keys so far as I can tell but >it also did not clear on server reset. The second one I did not try >the shift/control/alt keys but it did clear on server reset. > >I did notice each time that there was a "click" of the disk drive >almost as if there was a disk sync just as the keyboard locked up. I have little idea why the disk activity occurs like this. Well, syslogd may be logging something (to /var/log/messages by default). Do you see any unusual log messages? However, the syscons/psm/kbdio drivers in 2.2-BETA don't send log messages to syslogd after the system boot by default. So, even if you find something, it does not directly come from the drivers. >I will keep trying to see if I can get any more information, if there >is anything anybody can think of that I can try, to trap this problem >let me know. Other than the keyboard, it is working great. > >Thanks > > >Brian Beattie | From an MIT job ad "Applicants must also hav >e Thank you for your report, and I am sorry that I cannot be of more help to you at this time. Kazu From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Jan 7 07:49:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id HAA26865 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:49:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from trapdoor.aracnet.com (root@trapdoor.aracnet.com [204.188.47.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id HAA26860 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:48:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from shelob.aracnet.com (shelob.aracnet.com [204.188.47.2]) by trapdoor.aracnet.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id HAA06756; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:48:39 -0800 Recieved: from localhost by shelob.aracnet.com (8.7.4) id HAA03104; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:50:09 -0800 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:50:09 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Beattie To: Kazutaka YOKOTA cc: mobile@freebsd.org, Nate Williams Subject: Re: Tecra 730 keyboard problem update In-Reply-To: <199701070635.PAA05864@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 7 Jan 1997, Kazutaka YOKOTA wrote: > > > >I did notice each time that there was a "click" of the disk drive > >almost as if there was a disk sync just as the keyboard locked up. > > I have little idea why the disk activity occurs like this. Well, > syslogd may be logging something (to /var/log/messages by default). > Do you see any unusual log messages? However, the syscons/psm/kbdio > drivers in 2.2-BETA don't send log messages to syslogd after the > system boot by default. So, even if you find something, it does not > directly come from the drivers. > > I have been runing for a while now and have had several lockups. They all seem to occur while there is disk activity which leads me to suspect a lost interrupt. I am currently reinstalling and will give straight 2.2-Beta a try to see if it behaves any differently. I thank you for your responses and understand that it is difficult to give any firm advice on a problem so poorly defined. Thanks beattie From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Jan 9 05:24:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id FAA29093 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 05:24:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from trapdoor.aracnet.com (root@trapdoor.aracnet.com [204.188.47.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id FAA29084 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 05:24:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from eris.beattie.aracnet.com (ppp-h4.aracnet.com [204.188.47.197]) by trapdoor.aracnet.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id FAA19759; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 05:22:49 -0800 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 05:18:20 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Beattie X-Sender: beattie@eris.beattie.aracnet.com To: Kazutaka YOKOTA cc: mobile@freebsd.org, Nate Williams Subject: Re: Tecra 730 keyboard problem update In-Reply-To: <199701070635.PAA05864@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I have gone back to 2.2-BETA_A on my Terca 730 and the keyborad hangs appear to have stopped. I would still like to be able to use the PS/2 mouse but everything else seems to be working. Brian Beattie | From an MIT job ad "Applicants must also have http://www.aracnet.com/~beattie | extensive knowledge of UNIX, although they beattie@aracnet.com | should have sufficently good programming taste Fax (503)331-8186 | to not consider this an achievement." -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMtTwDlQwtztGaITFAQEgPgP9GJq/K2G9bQdzzMNrgNlp37/6COwo80wV o9EawCyf+gG274Z9chtXr1YX6rNJ4gU0ZvkkemjDu99OhojGhP/1S3YDTIq5IbMU Y+ZIk6hVtZU2uCUHdJ+WPMMSFssyL/YK9QGUxGe/+k+A9fRrkA3zxHFgL4KjiKVg 1h7Rt5JrnLs= =Xu87 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Jan 9 06:20:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id GAA01181 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 06:20:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from gaia.gol.com (gaia.gol.com [202.243.48.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id GAA01174 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 06:20:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (joe@localhost) by gaia.gol.com (8.8.3/8.6.5) id XAA02484; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 23:20:09 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 23:20:09 +0900 (JST) From: Joe Kelly Subject: FreeBSD Laptop Question. To: mobile@freebsd.org Cc: joe@gaia.gol.com Message-Id: Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I've just got 2 quick questions about Laptops & FreeBSD: A) Can someone please recommend a good laptop for FreeBSD, eg DEC (High Note VP), IBM (thinkpad 560) or anything better. B) I'd like to get a thinkpad 560 but I'm not sure if FreeBSD / Xfree will work on it. Does anyone know? I see that the latest version of Xfree (3.2) says that the thinkpad graphics chip (Trident Cyber 9382) should work. But it seemed kinda vague on it, anyone have first hand experience on this. I need to get freebsd up on a laptop asap so any info would be great. Thanks in advance & Best Regards...Joe Kelly ______________________________________________________________________ Joe Kelly Global OnLine Japan. Email From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Jan 9 07:57:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id HAA06170 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 07:57:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id HAA06165 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 07:57:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA06546; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:57:12 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:57:12 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199701091557.IAA06546@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Joe Kelly Cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Laptop Question. In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I've just got 2 quick questions about Laptops & FreeBSD: > > A) Can someone please recommend a good laptop for FreeBSD, > eg DEC (High Note VP), IBM (thinkpad 560) or anything better. I've heard good things about the Hi-Note, but I don't think I'll get to install FreeBSD on my boss's 560. However, if it runs the 560 would be a *really* nice box. It's pretty sweet. At the opposite end of the spectrum is the NEC 6040, which is known to run FreeBSD well, but it's a heavy-duty (with emphasis on heavy) laptop that can do almost everything a desktop can do. For lightweight I'd go with the Hi-Note (which I hope to later on this year.) Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Jan 9 08:09:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id IAA07068 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:09:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id IAA07063 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:09:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA06597; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:09:23 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:09:23 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199701091609.JAA06597@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Brian Beattie Cc: Kazutaka YOKOTA , mobile@freebsd.org, Nate Williams Subject: Re: Tecra 730 keyboard problem update In-Reply-To: References: <199701070635.PAA05864@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have gone back to 2.2-BETA_A on my Terca 730 and the keyborad hangs > appear to have stopped. I would still like to be able to use the > PS/2 mouse but everything else seems to be working. So if you disable the psm0 driver, everything works fine. And, in 2.2-ALPHA you could use both, right? From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Jan 9 08:37:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id IAA08551 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:37:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from stt3.com (stt3.com [198.107.49.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id IAA08546 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:37:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from eris.stt3.com(really [192.168.0.101]) by stt3.com via sendmail with smtp id for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:37:59 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2 built 1996-Sep-2) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:36:59 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Beattie To: Nate Williams cc: Brian Beattie , Kazutaka YOKOTA , mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Tecra 730 keyboard problem update In-Reply-To: <199701091609.JAA06597@rocky.mt.sri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Nate Williams wrote: > > I have gone back to 2.2-BETA_A on my Terca 730 and the keyborad hangs > > appear to have stopped. I would still like to be able to use the > > PS/2 mouse but everything else seems to be working. > > So if you disable the psm0 driver, everything works fine. And, in > 2.2-ALPHA you could use both, right? > If id disable psm0, 2.2-BETA works. I never tried 2.2-ALPHA. Brian Beattie +1.503.690.1570 x6116 Dynamics Research Corporation 19545 NW Von Neumann Dr FAX 690.1569 Beaverton, OR 97006-6998 beattie@stt3.com "I am Pentium of the Borg. Division is futile. you will be approximated!" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMtUepr9TCzz2UFFRAQE4GgP+IA1N8q0uZjALW2ZLQGc71dcAqx76A/Gv 15v6+NBCWcr3n73vNGJuFzdXTRDF2spLhbnCKZnjia1WS4QuKDthxp5KLCwIaTiJ oivVhydR5JYRO24E6cKYWtw7iBU7AviP0ST0DVGPzmKAqk0HKyrmmTH9oj5R/xax 3j7BLNEIs6Y= =S82i -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Jan 9 11:05:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA15729 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:05:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from wired.com (get.wired.com [204.62.131.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA15722 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:04:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from get.wired.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wired.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA11560; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:04:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199701091904.LAA11560@wired.com> To: Nate Williams cc: Joe Kelly , mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Laptop Question. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 09 Jan 1997 08:57:12 MST." <199701091557.IAA06546@rocky.mt.sri.com> Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 11:04:02 -0800 From: William Robertson Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've heard good things about the Hi-Note, but I don't think I'll get to install FreeBSD on my boss's 560. However, if it runs the 560 would be a *really* nice box. It's pretty sweet. it installs and runs on the 560. xfree86 3.2 runs with a bit o tweeking, but only does 8-bit colour (please contact me if you can do better :-). i'm using PAO and 2.2 beta. rob william robertson network engineer, hotwired +1 415 276 8471 (voice) robr@hotwired.com +1 888 912 0300 (pager) From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Jan 9 11:14:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA16390 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:14:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA16385 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:14:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA07573; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:14:25 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:14:25 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199701091914.MAA07573@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: William Robertson Cc: Nate Williams , Joe Kelly , mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Laptop Question. In-Reply-To: <199701091904.LAA11560@wired.com> References: <199701091557.IAA06546@rocky.mt.sri.com> <199701091904.LAA11560@wired.com> Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk William Robertson writes: > > I've heard good things about the Hi-Note, but I don't think I'll get to > install FreeBSD on my boss's 560. However, if it runs the 560 would be > a *really* nice box. It's pretty sweet. > > it installs and runs on the 560. xfree86 3.2 runs with a bit o > tweeking, but only does 8-bit colour (please contact me if you can do > better :-). Can the 560 do 800x600? Also, I don't know of any X servers that can go better than 8-bit with the LCD screens, even though under Windows 3.1 I can do 16-bit color on my older 755CX. Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Jan 9 11:22:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA16867 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:22:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from wired.com (get.wired.com [204.62.131.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA16861 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:22:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from get.wired.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wired.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA14839; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:22:40 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199701091922.LAA14839@wired.com> To: Nate Williams cc: William Robertson , Joe Kelly , mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Laptop Question. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 09 Jan 1997 12:14:25 MST." <199701091914.MAA07573@rocky.mt.sri.com> Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 11:22:40 -0800 From: William Robertson Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can the 560 do 800x600? yes. Also, I don't know of any X servers that can go better than 8-bit with the LCD screens, even though under Windows 3.1 I can do 16-bit color on my older 755CX. i'm hoping that improvements to Xfree86 3.2 will do better than 8-bit, since they support the 560 video chip. right now the video seems a bit washed out. i've heard that the new xinside server will do 16 bit on the 560. rob From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Jan 9 11:30:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA17126 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:30:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA17121 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:30:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA07625; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:30:21 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:30:21 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199701091930.MAA07625@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: William Robertson Cc: Nate Williams , Joe Kelly , mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Laptop Question. In-Reply-To: <199701091922.LAA14839@wired.com> References: <199701091914.MAA07573@rocky.mt.sri.com> <199701091922.LAA14839@wired.com> Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Can the 560 do 800x600? > > yes. Are you able to get XFree86 running at 800x600@8bit on it? > Also, I don't know of any X servers that can > go better than 8-bit with the LCD screens, even though under Windows 3.1 > I can do 16-bit color on my older 755CX. > > i'm hoping that improvements to Xfree86 3.2 will do better than 8-bit, > since they support the 560 video chip. right now the video seems a > bit washed out. > > i've heard that the new xinside server will do 16 bit on the 560. I've been having a hard time getting information out of XInside lately. :( Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Jan 9 11:59:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA18471 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:59:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from stt3.com (stt3.com [198.107.49.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA18461 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:59:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from eris.stt3.com(really [192.168.0.101]) by stt3.com via sendmail with smtp id for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:59:47 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2 built 1996-Sep-2) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:58:45 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Beattie To: Nate Williams cc: William Robertson , Joe Kelly , mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Laptop Question. In-Reply-To: <199701091914.MAA07573@rocky.mt.sri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Nate Williams wrote: > William Robertson writes: > > > > I've heard good things about the Hi-Note, but I don't think I'll get to > > install FreeBSD on my boss's 560. However, if it runs the 560 would be > > a *really* nice box. It's pretty sweet. > > > > it installs and runs on the 560. xfree86 3.2 runs with a bit o > > tweeking, but only does 8-bit colour (please contact me if you can do > > better :-). > > Can the 560 do 800x600? Also, I don't know of any X servers that can > go better than 8-bit with the LCD screens, even though under Windows 3.1 > I can do 16-bit color on my older 755CX. > > > Nate > I was doing 16bit color on my Terca 730 but changes to 8bit becuase of the speed. The Tecra uses the C&T 165550 which is supported by XFree86 3.2. This all assumes that the software was not lying :-). Brian Beattie +1.503.690.1570 x6116 Dynamics Research Corporation 19545 NW Von Neumann Dr FAX 690.1569 Beaverton, OR 97006-6998 beattie@stt3.com "I am Pentium of the Borg. Division is futile. you will be approximated!" From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Jan 9 12:01:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA18643 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:01:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from stt3.com (stt3.com [198.107.49.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA18637 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:01:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from eris.stt3.com(really [192.168.0.101]) by stt3.com via sendmail with smtp id for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:01:39 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2 built 1996-Sep-2) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:00:37 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Beattie To: Nate Williams cc: William Robertson , Joe Kelly , mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Laptop Question. In-Reply-To: <199701091930.MAA07625@rocky.mt.sri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Nate Williams wrote: > > Can the 560 do 800x600? > > > > yes. > > Are you able to get XFree86 running at 800x600@8bit on it? > > > Also, I don't know of any X servers that can > > go better than 8-bit with the LCD screens, even though under Windows 3.1 > > I can do 16-bit color on my older 755CX. > > > > i'm hoping that improvements to Xfree86 3.2 will do better than 8-bit, > > since they support the 560 video chip. right now the video seems a > > bit washed out. > > > > i've heard that the new xinside server will do 16 bit on the 560. > > I've been having a hard time getting information out of XInside > lately. :( > > > Nate > I started to try to install the X-inside server on my Tecra but the C&T 165550 support was marked as beta or something so I gave it a skip and went to XF8632 Brian Beattie +1.503.690.1570 x6116 Dynamics Research Corporation 19545 NW Von Neumann Dr FAX 690.1569 Beaverton, OR 97006-6998 beattie@stt3.com "I am Pentium of the Borg. Division is futile. you will be approximated!" From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Jan 9 12:06:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA18945 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:06:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id MAA18940 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:06:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA07763; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 13:06:26 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 13:06:26 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199701092006.NAA07763@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Brian Beattie Cc: Nate Williams , William Robertson , Joe Kelly , mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Laptop Question. In-Reply-To: References: <199701091914.MAA07573@rocky.mt.sri.com> Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Can the 560 do 800x600? Also, I don't know of any X servers that can > > go better than 8-bit with the LCD screens, even though under Windows 3.1 > > I can do 16-bit color on my older 755CX. > > > > I was doing 16bit color on my Terca 730 but changes to 8bit becuase of the > speed. The Tecra uses the C&T 165550 which is supported by XFree86 3.2. Hmm, I'm doing 800x600@8bit on my NEC (C&T65545), but I couldn't figure out any modelines to get greater than that on my LCD screen. > This all assumes that the software was not lying :-). Run netscape and it'll be *real* obvious by looking at pictures. :) Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Jan 9 12:07:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA18979 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:07:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from wired.com (get.wired.com [204.62.131.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id MAA18974 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:07:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from get.wired.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wired.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22347; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:06:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199701092006.MAA22347@wired.com> To: Nate Williams cc: William Robertson , Joe Kelly , mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Laptop Question. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 09 Jan 1997 12:30:21 MST." <199701091930.MAA07625@rocky.mt.sri.com> Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 12:06:57 -0800 From: William Robertson Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Are you able to get XFree86 running at 800x600@8bit on it? yeah, no prob. you need a program to set the display properly before invoking X, called 'cy9382', which can be retrieved from: http://www.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp:81/contrib/sanpei/how2800x600.html I've been having a hard time getting information out of XInside lately. :( me too. a co-worker just got a sample copy of the server and it worked fine for the 10 minutes it lived. rob From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Jan 9 12:14:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA19257 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:14:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id MAA19250 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:14:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA07859; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 13:14:00 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 13:14:00 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199701092014.NAA07859@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: William Robertson Cc: Nate Williams , Joe Kelly , mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Laptop Question. In-Reply-To: <199701092006.MAA22347@wired.com> References: <199701091930.MAA07625@rocky.mt.sri.com> <199701092006.MAA22347@wired.com> Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Are you able to get XFree86 running at 800x600@8bit on it? > > yeah, no prob. you need a program to set the display properly before > invoking X, called 'cy9382', which can be retrieved from: > > http://www.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp:81/contrib/sanpei/how2800x600.html How in the heck did you find about that? *grin* > me too. a co-worker just got a sample copy of the server and it > worked fine for the 10 minutes it lived. Oh, I bought a copy of it just before Christmas, but it only works under FreeBSD 2.1.*, and I run FreeBSD >+ 2.2-Alpha. :( Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Jan 9 12:21:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA19579 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:21:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.28]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id MAA19571 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:21:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA15778; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:21:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:21:12 -0800 (PST) From: John-Mark Gurney Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney To: Nate Williams cc: William Robertson , Joe Kelly , mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Laptop Question. In-Reply-To: <199701091914.MAA07573@rocky.mt.sri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Nate Williams wrote: > William Robertson writes: > > > > I've heard good things about the Hi-Note, but I don't think I'll get to > > install FreeBSD on my boss's 560. However, if it runs the 560 would be > > a *really* nice box. It's pretty sweet. > > > > it installs and runs on the 560. xfree86 3.2 runs with a bit o > > tweeking, but only does 8-bit colour (please contact me if you can do > > better :-). > > Can the 560 do 800x600? Also, I don't know of any X servers that can > go better than 8-bit with the LCD screens, even though under Windows 3.1 > I can do 16-bit color on my older 755CX. Bryan Tarr is running 16bit at 800x600 w/ XFree86... it required the a beta of XFree86 (this was before 3.2 was released)... but it runs quite nicely.... it's more of a problem with the display chip not being supported by the server... so make sure you research it... John-Mark gurney_j@efn.org http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Modem/FAX: (541) 683-6954 (FreeBSD Box) Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD (unix) From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Jan 9 15:16:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA27376 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:16:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA27371 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:16:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.2/8.7.3) id JAA28508; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:45:47 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199701092315.JAA28508@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Laptop Question. In-Reply-To: <199701091914.MAA07573@rocky.mt.sri.com> from Nate Williams at "Jan 9, 97 12:14:25 pm" To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:45:46 +1030 (CST) Cc: robr@wired.com, nate@mt.sri.com, joe@gaia.gol.com, mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nate Williams stands accused of saying: > > > > it installs and runs on the 560. xfree86 3.2 runs with a bit o > > tweeking, but only does 8-bit colour (please contact me if you can do > > better :-). > > Can the 560 do 800x600? Also, I don't know of any X servers that can > go better than 8-bit with the LCD screens, even though under Windows 3.1 > I can do 16-bit color on my older 755CX. AccelX does 800x600x16 on the Sharp PC9030/9070 (Cirrus 7543), but only unaccelerated (problem in their 7543 driver or the chipset implementation; the jury is out on which is correct). > Nate -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Jan 9 15:21:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA27628 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:21:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA27620 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:21:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.2/8.7.3) id JAA28558; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:51:23 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199701092321.JAA28558@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Laptop Question. In-Reply-To: <199701092014.NAA07859@rocky.mt.sri.com> from Nate Williams at "Jan 9, 97 01:14:00 pm" To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:51:22 +1030 (CST) Cc: robr@wired.com, nate@mt.sri.com, joe@gaia.gol.com, mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nate Williams stands accused of saying: > > Oh, I bought a copy of it just before Christmas, but it only works under > FreeBSD 2.1.*, and I run FreeBSD >+ 2.2-Alpha. :( Bollocks. We run it on all our notebooks (XFree doesn't support the 7543 usefully), and they are all 2.2 systems. > Nate > -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Jan 9 15:26:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA27782 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:26:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA27774 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:26:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA08886; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 16:25:40 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 16:25:40 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199701092325.QAA08886@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Michael Smith Cc: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams), robr@wired.com, joe@gaia.gol.com, mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Laptop Question. In-Reply-To: <199701092321.JAA28558@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> References: <199701092014.NAA07859@rocky.mt.sri.com> <199701092321.JAA28558@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Oh, I bought a copy of it just before Christmas, but it only works under > > FreeBSD 2.1.*, and I run FreeBSD >+ 2.2-Alpha. :( > > Bollocks. We run it on all our notebooks (XFree doesn't support the > 7543 usefully), and they are all 2.2 systems. Am I the only who can't get it working? Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Jan 9 15:30:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA27941 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:30:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA27936 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.2/8.7.3) id JAA28608; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:59:23 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199701092329.JAA28608@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Laptop Question. In-Reply-To: <199701092325.QAA08886@rocky.mt.sri.com> from Nate Williams at "Jan 9, 97 04:25:40 pm" To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:59:21 +1030 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, nate@mt.sri.com, robr@wired.com, joe@gaia.gol.com, mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nate Williams stands accused of saying: > > > Oh, I bought a copy of it just before Christmas, but it only works under > > > FreeBSD 2.1.*, and I run FreeBSD >+ 2.2-Alpha. :( > > > > Bollocks. We run it on all our notebooks (XFree doesn't support the > > 7543 usefully), and they are all 2.2 systems. > > Am I the only who can't get it working? What does it die of? > Nate > -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Jan 9 15:31:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA27984 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:31:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from rmsq.com (rmsq.com [204.133.95.70]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA27979 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:31:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from baldrick@localhost) by rmsq.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id PAA08697; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:16:26 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:16:26 -0700 (MST) From: Just Baldrick Message-Id: <199701092216.PAA08697@rmsq.com> To: joe@gaia.gol.com, mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Laptop Question. Sender: owner-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, We have FreeBSD 2.1.5 and XFree86 3.2 running on a laptop made by BIT Computers. Not exactly a well-known name but they advertize in Computer Shopper. Essentially it's a 120MHz Pentium with 32MB RAM, IDE disk and a Chips & Technologies 65545 video chipset. X-Windows works quite nicely at 800x600 and the little stalk mouse also functions properly. In theory the sound chipset is 16-bit but we can only get FreeBSD to recognize 8-bit SoundBlaster Pro. Regards, Geoff Martindale From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Jan 9 15:34:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA28253 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:34:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA28241 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:34:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA08910; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 16:33:58 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 16:33:58 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199701092333.QAA08910@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Michael Smith Cc: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams), robr@wired.com, joe@gaia.gol.com, mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Laptop Question. In-Reply-To: <199701092329.JAA28608@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> References: <199701092325.QAA08886@rocky.mt.sri.com> <199701092329.JAA28608@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Michael Smith writes: > Nate Williams stands accused of saying: > > > > Oh, I bought a copy of it just before Christmas, but it only works under > > > > FreeBSD 2.1.*, and I run FreeBSD >+ 2.2-Alpha. :( > > > > > > Bollocks. We run it on all our notebooks (XFree doesn't support the > > > 7543 usefully), and they are all 2.2 systems. > > > > Am I the only who can't get it working? > > What does it die of? It crashes the entire system. I see the startup messages, and then hang/crash. According to XInside tech.-support this is a known problem that started sometime in late August/early September. Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Jan 9 15:55:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA29180 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:55:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA29173 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:55:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.2/8.7.3) id KAA28798; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:25:05 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199701092355.KAA28798@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Laptop Question. In-Reply-To: <199701092333.QAA08910@rocky.mt.sri.com> from Nate Williams at "Jan 9, 97 04:33:58 pm" To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:25:05 +1030 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, nate@mt.sri.com, robr@wired.com, joe@gaia.gol.com, mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nate Williams stands accused of saying: > > > > Bollocks. We run it on all our notebooks (XFree doesn't support the > > > > 7543 usefully), and they are all 2.2 systems. > > > > > > Am I the only who can't get it working? > > > > What does it die of? > > It crashes the entire system. I see the startup messages, and then > hang/crash. According to XInside tech.-support this is a known problem > that started sometime in late August/early September. I get this if I turn the glidepoint (spit) off and forget to plug in an external rodent, but my notebook is post 2.2-ALPHA and X works just dandy. > Nate -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Jan 9 22:26:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id WAA21764 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 22:26:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id WAA21756 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 22:26:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA10376; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 23:26:44 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 23:26:44 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199701100626.XAA10376@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Michael Smith Cc: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams), robr@wired.com, joe@gaia.gol.com, mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Laptop Question. In-Reply-To: <199701092321.JAA28558@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> References: <199701092014.NAA07859@rocky.mt.sri.com> <199701092321.JAA28558@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Oh, I bought a copy of it just before Christmas, but it only works under > > FreeBSD 2.1.*, and I run FreeBSD >+ 2.2-Alpha. :( > > Bollocks. We run it on all our notebooks (XFree doesn't support the > 7543 usefully), and they are all 2.2 systems. OK, OK, OK. I just tried it again on my -current system and *NOW* it appears to be working fine. Honestly, it was causing kernel crashes on my machine just before Christmas. I *did* make sure that I had the *exact* same libraries as on my 2.1.6 box this time (I copied over the versions that were there), so it's possible that somehow I was triggering a weird bug due to them, but all of the libraries were on my box before. In any case, it appears to work fine on my laptop (I need to check out my other boxes now). Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Jan 9 22:38:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id WAA22395 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 22:38:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id WAA22390 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 22:38:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.2/8.7.3) id RAA03512; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 17:08:14 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199701100638.RAA03512@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Laptop Question. In-Reply-To: <199701100626.XAA10376@rocky.mt.sri.com> from Nate Williams at "Jan 9, 97 11:26:44 pm" To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 17:08:13 +1030 (CST) Cc: mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nate Williams stands accused of saying: > > OK, OK, OK. I just tried it again on my -current system and *NOW* it > appears to be working fine. Honestly, it was causing kernel crashes on > my machine just before Christmas. I believe you 8) I just meant that whatever might have been the problem wasn't a generic 2.2 problem. Note that there are lot of incrementally-2.2 systems out there with no libgnumalloc in /usr/lib, but without updated /etc/rc's that will cause X grief, which _may_ be part of the problem. Dunno though. > In any case, it appears to work fine on my laptop (I need to check out > my other boxes now). Joy and happiness! > Nate -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Jan 9 22:41:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id WAA22541 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 22:41:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id WAA22536 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 22:41:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA10422; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 23:41:22 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 23:41:22 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199701100641.XAA10422@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Michael Smith Cc: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams), mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Laptop Question. In-Reply-To: <199701100638.RAA03512@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> References: <199701100626.XAA10376@rocky.mt.sri.com> <199701100638.RAA03512@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > OK, OK, OK. I just tried it again on my -current system and *NOW* it > > appears to be working fine. Honestly, it was causing kernel crashes on > > my machine just before Christmas. > > I believe you 8) I just meant that whatever might have been the > problem wasn't a generic 2.2 problem. According to XInside tech. support they were seeing the problem as well, though. > Note that there are lot of > incrementally-2.2 systems out there with no libgnumalloc in /usr/lib, > but without updated /etc/rc's that will cause X grief, which _may_ > be part of the problem. Dunno though. Naw, I made sure I updated all of the /etc files. However, they were updated from 2.0.5 boxes and skipped 2.1* completely, so that might be something.... Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Jan 9 22:44:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id WAA22695 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 22:44:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id WAA22687 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 22:44:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.2/8.7.3) id RAA03669; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 17:13:50 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199701100643.RAA03669@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Laptop Question. In-Reply-To: <199701100641.XAA10422@rocky.mt.sri.com> from Nate Williams at "Jan 9, 97 11:41:22 pm" To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 17:13:49 +1030 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, nate@mt.sri.com, mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nate Williams stands accused of saying: > > > > I believe you 8) I just meant that whatever might have been the > > problem wasn't a generic 2.2 problem. > > According to XInside tech. support they were seeing the problem as well, > though. Hmm, weirdness. > Naw, I made sure I updated all of the /etc files. However, they were > updated from 2.0.5 boxes and skipped 2.1* completely, so that might be > something.... I figured that was that case; the missing-library failure is a little different from the one that you were describing. > Nate -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Jan 10 00:59:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id AAA00812 for mobile-outgoing; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 00:59:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from solar.tlk.com (solar.tlk.com [194.97.84.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id AAA00807 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 00:59:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by solar.tlk.com via sendmail with stdio id for mobile@freebsd.org; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:57:49 +0100 (MET)) Message-Id: From: torstenb@solar.tlk.com (Torsten Blum) Subject: Re: FreeBSD Laptop Question. In-Reply-To: <199701100638.RAA03512@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from Michael Smith at "Jan 10, 97 05:08:13 pm" To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:57:49 +0100 (MET) Cc: nate@mt.sri.com, mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL26 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Michael Smith wrote: > I believe you 8) I just meant that whatever might have been the > problem wasn't a generic 2.2 problem. Note that there are lot of > incrementally-2.2 systems out there with no libgnumalloc in /usr/lib, > but without updated /etc/rc's that will cause X grief, which _may_ > be part of the problem. Dunno though. Xaccel uses it's own malloc() (according to Thomas Roell) -tb From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Jan 10 14:47:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA07390 for mobile-outgoing; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:47:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from scotty.masternet.it (scotty.masternet.it [194.184.65.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id OAA07385 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:47:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmarco (ts1port6d.masternet.it [194.184.65.28]) by scotty.masternet.it (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA10760 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 23:47:59 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970110234217.006a377c@scotty.masternet.it> X-Sender: gmarco@scotty.masternet.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 beta 3 (32) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 23:43:13 +0100 To: mobile@freebsd.org From: Gianmarco Giovannelli Subject: * 3com 3c589c works (finally) * Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk My 3c589c pcmcia cards now works ... I have changed my laptop with an IBM 365xd and it was found (zp0, 10,300,0xee000) at the first boot (with the boot floppy of the 2.2 snap of the 1st of August, which is the first boot floppy I found on my desk...) Now it works like a charm. The only problem, big, will be the configuration of X for the "cyber9320 PCI" (Trident ???). I have Xaccel 2.1 but it seems it doesn't support this chip. Any suggests ? Another questions : Is possible to mount on the laptop /usr/src the /usr/src of my server and then use this mount to make world or make install ? I have tried, with an /etc/exports like /usr/src -maproot=0 thinkpad and on the the laptop with : mount -t nfs gmarco:/usr/src /usr/src then I tried a make install on the laptop but it fails very early. Where I wrong ? Thanks again for your attention. Courier Regards... +-------------------------------------+--------------------+ | Internet: gmarco@masternet.it | ,,, | | Internet: gmarco@fi.nettuno.it | (o o) | | http://www2.masternet.it/~gmarco | ---oo0-(_)-0oo--- | | http://www2.masternet.it/ | Gianmarco | +-------------------------------------+--------------------+ From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Jan 10 23:35:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id XAA04904 for mobile-outgoing; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 23:35:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id XAA04893 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 23:35:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.2/8.7.3) id SAA07607; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 18:04:43 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199701110734.SAA07607@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Laptop Question. In-Reply-To: from Torsten Blum at "Jan 10, 97 09:57:49 am" To: torstenb@solar.tlk.com (Torsten Blum) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 18:04:42 +1030 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, nate@mt.sri.com, mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Torsten Blum stands accused of saying: > > problem wasn't a generic 2.2 problem. Note that there are lot of > > incrementally-2.2 systems out there with no libgnumalloc in /usr/lib, > > but without updated /etc/rc's that will cause X grief, which _may_ > > be part of the problem. Dunno though. > > Xaccel uses it's own malloc() (according to Thomas Roell) Yes, but Xaccel uses the XFree xdm, xterm etc, all of which use(d) gnumalloc. > -tb -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[