From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Dec 8 14:16:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA19533 for mobile-outgoing; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:16:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from send1b.yahoomail.com (send1b.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA19487 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:16:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from k0zm0z@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19971208221551.10168.rocketmail@send1b.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.155.93.60] by send1b; Mon, 08 Dec 1997 14:15:51 PST Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:15:51 -0800 (PST) From: kozmo killah Subject: Freebsd works on laptops? To: mobile@freebsd.org Cc: hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk h3ll0, does the freebsd works on laptop pc? i try the linux on thinkpad 701 and it blew up into much fire and smoke which maked big fire in room. i have now the thinkpad 560 and will the freebsd works much better and no break laptop? is the freebsd very much guarantee to not blow up? _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Dec 8 15:18:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA26368 for mobile-outgoing; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 15:18:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA26346 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 15:17:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA24772; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:17:56 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA13669; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:17:55 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:17:55 -0700 Message-Id: <199712082317.QAA13669@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: kozmo killah Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Freebsd works on laptops? In-Reply-To: <19971208221551.10168.rocketmail@send1b.yahoomail.com> References: <19971208221551.10168.rocketmail@send1b.yahoomail.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > does the freebsd works on laptop pc? > > i try the linux on thinkpad 701 and it blew up into > much fire and smoke which maked big fire in room. Wow, I wonder how they did that? That might be fun to do with a co-workers machine. :) > i have now the thinkpad 560 and will the freebsd > works much better and no break laptop? I certainly hope so. I know quite a few people who have 560's with FreeBSD install. > is the freebsd very much guarantee to not blow up? There are no *guarantees* with free software (and very few with commercial software), but I'm pretty sure it won't blow up. Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Dec 8 16:04:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA01536 for mobile-outgoing; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:04:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from seidata.com (seidata.com [206.160.242.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA01464; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:03:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@seidata.com) Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by seidata.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA09970; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 19:03:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 19:03:15 -0500 (EST) From: Mike To: kozmo killah cc: mobile@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Freebsd works on laptops? In-Reply-To: <19971208221551.10168.rocketmail@send1b.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 Dec 1997, kozmo killah wrote: > does the freebsd works on laptop pc? Guess that'd depend on the laptop... ;) > i try the linux on thinkpad 701 and it blew up into > much fire and smoke which maked big fire in room. Ouch... sounds like bad luck. I have both the latest Slakware and Red Hat distributions running on an IBM Thinkpad 755 here with no problems... they even recognized all my PCMCIA devices on startup. > i have now the thinkpad 560 and will the freebsd > works much better and no break laptop? Some would argue that FreeBSD always works better than Linux. ;) > is the freebsd very much guarantee to not blow up? Surely you know by now that there's no guarantees in life. --- Mike Hoskins mike@seidata.com SEI Data Network Services, Inc. http://www.adept.org/apropos From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Dec 9 20:15:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA11340 for mobile-outgoing; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 20:15:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from send1a.yahoomail.com (send1a.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA11333 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 20:15:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from k0zm0z@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19971209224818.11418.rocketmail@send1a.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.155.93.60] by send1a; Tue, 09 Dec 1997 14:48:18 PST Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 14:48:18 -0800 (PST) From: kozmo killah Subject: Re: Freebsd works on laptops? To: Mike Cc: hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk but how to make amend for many damage cause me by linux company and malicious product which is very crappy to make laptop explode like that? if not linux company to sue, who? the freebsd would not make to explode the laptop no? i must works to warned other users how linux company makes to destroy computers and life of users. is anyone know how to sue linux company? ---Mike wrote: > > On Mon, 8 Dec 1997, kozmo killah wrote: > > > well i must know, i am plan to sue the linux company > > for breaking my laptop computer and to cause much grief > > and pain to me. > > Last time I checked, there were no guarantees on Linux... of course, last > time I checked, Linux couldn't cause the problems you spoke of... Unless > you tried to run X-Window (X11) and specificed incorrect video settings or > did some other sort of harmful probe... Regardless, "linux company" will > not reimburse anyone for anything. It's a "use at your own risk" world. > > --- > Mike Hoskins mike@seidata.com > SEI Data Network Services, Inc. http://www.adept.org/apropos > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Dec 10 07:52:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id HAA22894 for mobile-outgoing; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 07:52:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from dominator.eecs.harvard.edu (dominator.eecs.harvard.edu [140.247.60.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA22881 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 07:52:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from karp@eecs.harvard.edu) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dominator.eecs.harvard.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA31902 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 10:52:06 -0500 From: Brad Karp Message-Id: <199712101552.KAA31902@dominator.eecs.harvard.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: dominator.eecs.harvard.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: GPS PCMCIA cards; time acquisition Date: Wed, 10 Dec 97 10:52:06 -0500 X-Mts: smtp Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm looking for PCMCIA GPS cards for a GPS-assisted routing research project I'm starting at Harvard. I've had an advisee of mine look into vendors and their products. What he's found is that while several vendors _were_ making PCMCIA GPS receivers, almost all have stopped manufacturing them. He informs me that the reps he's spoken with cite lack of demand as the reason. In particular, he tells me that Sony, whose GPS receiver is listed in PAO's pccard.conf, has stopped making their card. The bottom line is that he says the _only_ card he's been able to find for sale anymore is the SatNav from Centennial Technologies. This card presents a serial port interface, and provides a data stream of position fixes and time information, either in a proprietary or NMEA format. The card is based on Rockwell hardware. Unfortunately, this card does _not_ provide a high-resolution clock, as some stand-alone units do. (I'm talking about a pulse on a single pin on the serial interface to delineate start-of-second, for resolution on the order of microseconds in some cases.) The high-res clock pulses are on our wish list. My question: can anyone confirm cards that are _still_ for sale by other vendors? And does anyone know of a PCMCIA GPS receiver that has microsecond time source accuracy (pulsed, as above)? Experience with particular cards is welcome, too, of course. An alternative would be for us to buy a stand-alone, battery-powered GPS with accurate clock that has a serial interface. In that case, we'd need to add a serial port to our laptops, because the built-in one is already spoken for by a Metricom radio network interface. Are add-on PCMCIA serial ports available, and if so, any recommendations? Your comments greatly appreciated, -Brad, karp@eecs.harvard.edu From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Dec 10 08:29:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA25036 for mobile-outgoing; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 08:29:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from duncan.cs.utk.edu (DUNCAN.CS.UTK.EDU [128.169.94.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA25029 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 08:29:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from key@cs.utk.edu) Received: from LOCALHOST.cs.utk.edu by duncan.cs.utk.edu with SMTP (cf v2.11c-UTK) id LAA13982; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 11:29:23 -0500 Message-Id: <199712101629.LAA13982@duncan.cs.utk.edu> To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org cc: key@cs.utk.edu Subject: APM suspend/resume and the "calltodo" timer list. Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 11:29:21 -0500 From: Ken Key Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Folks, looking at the -STABLE and -CURRENT and -PAO (at least of 971201) apm code, I noticed that nothing updates the calltodo timer list when a laptop resumes from a suspend. This means that applications sleeping on, say, a select timer don't fire when the resume occurs after the timer should have fired and won't fire for timer_time + suspend_time rather than the intended timer_time. The particular application that caused me to investigate this was the DHCP client, which was stuck on the select() timer even though the lease had expired. While I could just whack on the application code to detect clock-warpage, this struck me as a general class of problem. I've modified the apm_default_resume() code to call into kern_clock.c and fixup the timer entries on calltodo. Thus, when the next hardclock() call occurs, it'll tripp running softclock and the timers that expired during the suspend will fire. I've done some minimal testing on my system and haven't detected any problems thus far. I'm soliciting the mobile community at large for suggestions of things I may not have thought about that this might negatively effect in the OS. The worst I have come up with is just that the system potentially could become very busy at startup time running all the expired timers that have collapsed together. I haven't noticed this thus far on my tp560, but I won't claim having performed an exhaustive analysis. If nothing bad comes up in this testing, I'll post my patch. Thanks for your input, Ken Key (key@cs.utk.edu) From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Dec 10 08:43:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA26335 for mobile-outgoing; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 08:43:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA26330 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 08:43:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA09404; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 09:43:50 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA19209; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 09:43:47 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 09:43:47 -0700 Message-Id: <199712101643.JAA19209@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Brad Karp Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GPS PCMCIA cards; time acquisition In-Reply-To: <199712101552.KAA31902@dominator.eecs.harvard.edu> References: <199712101552.KAA31902@dominator.eecs.harvard.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm looking for PCMCIA GPS cards for a GPS-assisted routing research > project I'm starting at Harvard. As we are as well in a project at work. > I've had an advisee of mine look into vendors and their products. What > he's found is that while several vendors _were_ making PCMCIA GPS > receivers, almost all have stopped manufacturing them. He informs me that > the reps he's spoken with cite lack of demand as the reason. > > In particular, he tells me that Sony, whose GPS receiver is listed in > PAO's pccard.conf, has stopped making their card. > > The bottom line is that he says the _only_ card he's been able to find > for sale anymore is the SatNav from Centennial Technologies. This card > presents a serial port interface, and provides a data stream of > position fixes and time information, either in a proprietary or NMEA > format. The card is based on Rockwell hardware. Hmmmm, I wasn't aware that this card even exists. Thanks for the pointer. > My question: can anyone confirm cards that are _still_ for sale by > other vendors? I know that both Garmin and Trimble don't. As a matter of fact, during a recent military excercise my company was involved with, one of the Senators/Generals/high muckity-muck in the govt. asked the President/CEO of Trimble to 'restart' the PCMCIA line for the Marines, which they did and built 1000 units for the excercise before shutting it down again. But, they have no plans on doing that again. (I have one of the older cards locally, but it is a piece of crap compared to the external Garmin receiver we're using for tests right now.) > And does anyone know of a PCMCIA GPS receiver that has > microsecond time source accuracy (pulsed, as above)? Experience with > particular cards is welcome, too, of course. > > An alternative would be for us to buy a stand-alone, battery-powered > GPS with accurate clock that has a serial interface. I've been *very* impressed with the Garmin 12XL, although I don't know if it has a microsecond clock you have access to. (I highly doubt it, especially since the NMEA rate is 4800 baud, which is nowhere near fast enough for uS accuracy out.) > In that case, > we'd need to add a serial port to our laptops, because the built-in > one is already spoken for by a Metricom radio network interface. Are > add-on PCMCIA serial ports available, and if so, any recommendations? Socket makes the only one I'm aware of, in both a single/dual configuration. However, the dual configuration only works with Win95 according to Socket. We've almost given up on getting a PCMCIA/GPS at this time, and have resigned ourselves to using the PCMCIA/serial board. In any case, I'd be *very* interested in whatever you decide to do, since we're facing the same problems here. Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Dec 10 09:16:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA28887 for mobile-outgoing; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 09:16:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA28881 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 09:16:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.cybercity.dk [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA00333; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 18:13:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Brad Karp cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GPS PCMCIA cards; time acquisition In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 10 Dec 1997 10:52:06 EST." <199712101552.KAA31902@dominator.eecs.harvard.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 18:13:52 +0100 Message-ID: <331.881774032@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199712101552.KAA31902@dominator.eecs.harvard.edu>, Brad Karp writes : >An alternative would be for us to buy a stand-alone, battery-powered >GPS with accurate clock that has a serial interface. In that case, >we'd need to add a serial port to our laptops, because the built-in >one is already spoken for by a Metricom radio network interface. Are >add-on PCMCIA serial ports available, and if so, any recommendations? Check out Motorolas "UT oncore" thing... -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Dec 11 12:34:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA12520 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 12:34:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from cs.uoregon.edu (vitalstatistix.cs.uoregon.edu [128.223.200.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA12512 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 12:34:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zappala@cs.uoregon.edu) Received: from cs.uoregon.edu (suffix.cs.uoregon.edu [128.223.200.37]) by cs.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23709 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 12:34:30 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199712112034.MAA23709@cs.uoregon.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Cardbus controller status request / notebook update Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 12:34:29 -0800 From: Daniel Zappala Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can anyone tell me the status of the CS6832 and TI1131 support in PAO? I understand they are still in the testing phase, but what is working? I.e. can the controller be probed? Put into compatability mode? Any cards working yet? For those interested, here is my notebook update: In my quest to buy a notebook that I can dual boot W95/FreeBSD, I've been finding out which PC Card controllers and graphics chipsets the newer notebooks use. I'm trying to find one that has a P233 CPU. I haven't been able to find info on the PC Card controllers from a lot of sites (Dell, DEC, HP), but here are some that I've found the info for: Notebook PC Card Chipset Graphics Chipset =================================================================== IBM Thinkpad 560X TI 1250A NeoMagic 2160 / 2MB IBM Thinkpad 770 TI 1140 Trident Cyber 9397 /2MB Micron Transport XKE TI 1131 NeoMagic 2160 / 2MB Gateway 9100 CL 6832 Chips/Tech 65554 Gateway 9100 CL 6832 NeoMagic 2093 NEC Versa 5000 TI 1131 NeoMagic 2160 / 2MB (The 560X PC Card info isn't on IBM's site yet, but since a Thinkpad would automatically be my first choice, I called tech support on it and they gave me the info.) The Thinkpad 560X uses a new TI chip and since it is an ultraportable, the CDROM, modem, and NIC all use the PC Card slot. The TI1250A is not supported by PAO, so this means you are out of luck trying to load FreeBSD (except maybe by sticking it all on diskettes). The TP 770 models use the TI1440, which is also not supported, but do take a CDROM through a bay so you could load FreeBSD off CDROM. The 1AU model (top of the line, 14" screen) has an integrated modem, so you at least have some net access to fall back on if the PC Card NIC doesn't work, but it also costs $7k. All models use the Cyber 9387 chip, which is not supported by either XFree86 or XIG. The rest of the machines above use one of the chips that is undergoing testing in PAO and so it is possible the PC Card slot will be supported in the (near?) future. XFree86 doesn't support any NeoMagic chips, but XIG has a driver for the 2160 and I don't mind paying a little for the X server if I'm putting down a lot for the laptop anyway. XFree86 does support the Chips/Tech 65554. I think the NEC Versa has only a P166, so that machine is out. So it comes down to the Micron XKE and Gateway 9100. I like using a pointer instead of a touchpad, so I am leaning toward the Micron (which has both). It also comes with a CDROM, so I can load FreeBSD off that medium if I need to (i.e. if the PC Card NIC won't work), and an integrated modem so I can fall back to PPP for network access while getting the NIC to work. Comments welcome. Daniel Zappala zappala@cs.uoregon.edu From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Dec 11 15:00:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA22438 for mobile-outgoing; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 15:00:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA22432 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 15:00:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA20330; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 16:00:05 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA24128; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 16:00:02 -0700 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 16:00:02 -0700 Message-Id: <199712112300.QAA24128@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Daniel Zappala Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cardbus controller status request / notebook update In-Reply-To: <199712112034.MAA23709@cs.uoregon.edu> References: <199712112034.MAA23709@cs.uoregon.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Can anyone tell me the status of the CS6832 and TI1131 support in PAO? No, but I can tell you that Ted Faber wrote code for the CL6832 PCI/CardBus controller that's now in FreeBSD-current, and it would be trivial to back-port to -stable. If someone has the time/inclination and documentation it should be easy to add the same sort of functionality for the TI1131 and other chipsets. > =================================================================== > IBM Thinkpad 560X TI 1250A NeoMagic 2160 / 2MB > IBM Thinkpad 770 TI 1140 Trident Cyber 9397 /2MB > Micron Transport XKE TI 1131 NeoMagic 2160 / 2MB > Gateway 9100 CL 6832 Chips/Tech 65554 > Gateway 9100 CL 6832 NeoMagic 2093 > NEC Versa 5000 TI 1131 NeoMagic 2160 / 2MB > > (The 560X PC Card info isn't on IBM's site yet, but since a Thinkpad > would automatically be my first choice, I called tech support on it and > they gave me the info.) *Please* let me know about what you find. That is my #1 choice as well, but I just got put on hold for my laptop due to a M&S freeze at work. :( Also, if you can get docs on the newer chipsets and post pointers to them here or somehow make them available if/when I get someone willing to work with me who has the hardware or who is willing to do the work by themselves we can support newer PCI chipsets in PCMCIA emulation mode. Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Dec 12 10:37:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA12739 for mobile-outgoing; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:37:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA12715 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:37:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from faber@ISI.EDU) Received: from ISI.EDU (vex-s.isi.edu [128.9.192.240]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.8.7/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA05516; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:37:40 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199712121837.KAA05516@tnt.isi.edu> To: Daniel Zappala Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cardbus controller status request / notebook update In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 11 Dec 1997 12:34:29 PST." <199712112034.MAA23709@cs.uoregon.edu> X-Url: http://www.isi.edu/~faber Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:37:40 -0800 From: Ted Faber Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Daniel Zappala wrote: > >Can anyone tell me the status of the CS6832 and TI1131 support in PAO? I >understand they are still in the testing phase, but what is working? >I.e. can the controller be probed? Put into compatability mode? >Any cards working yet? Hi, Daniel. Small world, huh? I have code in -current to probe the CL6832, and as far as I know it works fine. I'm waiting for testers to find some bug that I haven't. The code runs unmodified on my 2.2.5-RELEASE box, so a back-port is a null operation. PAO supports the CL6832, as well as some others, but the 6832 is the only one I can vouch for personally. In both cases the chip runs in compatibility mode, i.e. looks like an ISA controller and supports 16-bit cards. Drop me a note if you need more details. - --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ted Faber faber@isi.edu USC/ISI Computer Scientist http://www.isi.edu/~faber (310) 822-1511 x190 PGP Key: http://www.isi.edu/~faber/pubkey.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNJGEc4b4eisfQ5rpAQEcsAP+N2TEzlthP5WWnsGv2m5ziLX2sR22mzMS x0H78UgAjGKqsNaKqfVykeNY6tKQqy6IRt6T/Zk/SSuk+V0dKO48NjUPLnLjoJLl wYWv/ytdfg760H2iyQO0UWLtrPjf5PVOOJId2s6Zb5D4DIhTwq08ExlmRX/8hl0x cL5EDfKdNWs= =RVeq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Dec 12 12:30:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA22048 for mobile-outgoing; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 12:30:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (deischen@iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA22013 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 12:30:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org) Received: (from deischen@localhost) by iworks.InterWorks.org (8.7.5/) id OAA26041; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 14:34:41 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199712122034.OAA26041@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 14:34:41 -0600 (CST) From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, hardware@neutron.neutron.org Subject: Re: max coolness laptop? Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I hope you don't mid that I redirected this to freebsd-mobile as it seems more appropriate and you're likely to get better answers here. > dear bsd people > you have given me good info in the past. > have you heard anyone successfully installing say, 2.2.2 and PAO > on a chembook 9780 ? > thanks > neutron. I've got a Chembook 6800XL with 14.1" display and I am *real* happy with it. I'm running -current on it, but 2.2-stable should work on it. The 9780 looks to have the same chipsets: C&T 65554/65555 (6800XL/9780) TI 1131 PCMCI for the display and PCMCIA. You might have a problem installing from CD-ROM. My ATAPI CD-ROM seems to take a little longer waiting for the command phase, and a one line fix to the kernel source fixed this problem. I think Soren was going to commit this change but it was only found a couple of weeks ago, so it won't be available in any installation disks you have. Oh yeah, support for the TI 1131 chipset was added after FreeBSD-2.5 was released, so you'll have to do without PCMCIA support until you upgrade to -stable. I've really got to thank Nate and the Nomads (sounds like a bad rock-group from the 60's) for notebook suppor. Good work guys! Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Dec 12 13:03:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA24495 for mobile-outgoing; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 13:03:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from sag.space.lockheed.com (sag.space.lockheed.com [192.68.162.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA24490 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 13:03:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from handy@sag.space.lockheed.com) Received: from localhost by sag.space.lockheed.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/21Nov95-0423PM) id AA06128; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 13:03:07 -0800 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 13:03:07 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Handy To: "Daniel M. Eischen" Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@neutron.neutron.org Subject: Re: max coolness laptop? In-Reply-To: <199712122034.OAA26041@iworks.InterWorks.org> Message-Id: X-Files: The truth is out there Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >You might have a problem installing from CD-ROM. My ATAPI >CD-ROM seems to take a little longer waiting for the command >phase, and a one line fix to the kernel source fixed this >problem. I think Soren was going to commit this change but >it was only found a couple of weeks ago, so it won't be available >in any installation disks you have. Another thing he could do is get a recent -SNAP from releng22.freebsd.org and install with that, if the support has made it in. (There's also -current there I think, that would work too.) Of course, I was assuming one would install over the internet...hrmph. BUT with one of these floppies I'd expect you could install from the 2.2.5 CD as well, so maybe it's not such a bad idea after all. >I've really got to thank Nate and the Nomads (sounds like a >bad rock-group from the 60's) for notebook suppor. Good >work guys! Nate plays a mean "Hotel California".... :-) Good luck and godspeed, Brian From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Dec 12 13:21:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA25750 for mobile-outgoing; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 13:21:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (deischen@iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA25744 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 13:21:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org) Received: (from deischen@localhost) by iworks.InterWorks.org (8.7.5/) id PAA26161; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:24:55 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199712122124.PAA26161@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:24:55 -0600 (CST) From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: handy@sag.space.lockheed.com Subject: Re: max coolness laptop? Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@neutron.neutron.org Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Another thing he could do is get a recent -SNAP from releng22.freebsd.org > and install with that, if the support has made it in. (There's also > -current there I think, that would work too.) Of course, I was assuming > one would install over the internet...hrmph. BUT with one of these > floppies I'd expect you could install from the 2.2.5 CD as well, so maybe > it's not such a bad idea after all. Actually, that's how I installed -current :-) I took a recent snapshot boot floppie (be sure to test the floppy out first to see if it boots; since it's a snap it's not guaranteed to work) from the 3.0 snapshots, and burned my own CD-ROM. I ended up having to copy the files to a DOS partition and installed from there. It takes a little more work to install on a notebook, but it's worth it :-) > >I've really got to thank Nate and the Nomads (sounds like a > >bad rock-group from the 60's) for notebook suppor. Good > >work guys! > > Nate plays a mean "Hotel California".... :-) Is it available on CD? ;-) Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Dec 12 13:49:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA28010 for mobile-outgoing; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 13:49:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA28004 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 13:49:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ambrisko@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA06566 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 11:56:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from UNKNOWN(), claiming to be "crab.whistle.com" via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd006562; Fri Dec 12 11:56:33 1997 Received: (from ambrisko@localhost) by crab.whistle.com (8.8.8/8.6.12) id LAA22953 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 11:55:37 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Ambrisko Message-Id: <199712121955.LAA22953@crab.whistle.com> Subject: Re: Cardbus controller status request / notebook update In-Reply-To: <199712121837.KAA05516@tnt.isi.edu> from Ted Faber at "Dec 12, 97 10:37:40 am" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 11:55:37 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL29 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ted Faber writes: | | Daniel Zappala wrote: | > | >Can anyone tell me the status of the CS6832 and TI1131 support in PAO? I | >understand they are still in the testing phase, but what is working? | >I.e. can the controller be probed? Put into compatability mode? | >Any cards working yet? | | I have code in -current to probe the CL6832, and as far as I know it | works fine. I'm waiting for testers to find some bug that I haven't. | The code runs unmodified on my 2.2.5-RELEASE box, so a back-port is a | null operation. PAO supports the CL6832, as well as some others, but | the 6832 is the only one I can vouch for personally. | | In both cases the chip runs in compatibility mode, i.e. looks like an | ISA controller and supports 16-bit cards. | | Drop me a note if you need more details. I have a CL6832 eval board and needed to add some code (lifted from PAO) to initialize the the port address. However, I'm still having trouble with the code in that interrupts don't seem to be working in that I keep getting device timeouts for the ethernet (this happens with PAO and current). We should be getting in a TI eval board and my laptop has the TI1130. So I expect to be doing some hacking on this stuff. Index: pcic_p.c =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/freebsd/src/sys/pci/pcic_p.c,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -c -r1.3 pcic_p.c *** pcic_p.c 1997/12/02 22:27:58 1.3 --- pcic_p.c 1997/12/12 19:47:15 *************** *** 140,145 **** --- 140,146 ---- * routine won't map regiaters above 0x28, and the register we * need to map is 0x44. */ + pci_conf_write(tag, CLPD6832_LEGACY_16BIT_IOADDR, (0x3e0 + 2) | PCI_MAP_IO); io_port = pci_conf_read(tag, CLPD6832_LEGACY_16BIT_IOADDR) & ~PCI_MAP_IO; From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Dec 12 14:38:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA01535 for mobile-outgoing; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 14:38:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA01528 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 14:38:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA28635; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:38:44 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA27990; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:38:42 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:38:42 -0700 Message-Id: <199712122238.PAA27990@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Doug Ambrisko Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cardbus controller status request / notebook update In-Reply-To: <199712121955.LAA22953@crab.whistle.com> References: <199712121837.KAA05516@tnt.isi.edu> <199712121955.LAA22953@crab.whistle.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have a CL6832 eval board and needed to add some code (lifted from PAO) > to initialize the the port address. Ted, if you can review this to make sure your computer still works with this, I'll commit it to the tree. Let me know please! > However, I'm still having trouble > with the code in that interrupts don't seem to be working in that I > keep getting device timeouts for the ethernet (this happens with PAO and > current). Hmmm... You're saying the interrupts are correctly registered with the devices (you get correct probe information), but the interrupts are getting lost? Nate > Index: pcic_p.c > =================================================================== > RCS file: /cvs/freebsd/src/sys/pci/pcic_p.c,v > retrieving revision 1.3 > diff -c -r1.3 pcic_p.c > *** pcic_p.c 1997/12/02 22:27:58 1.3 > --- pcic_p.c 1997/12/12 19:47:15 > *************** > *** 140,145 **** > --- 140,146 ---- > * routine won't map regiaters above 0x28, and the register we > * need to map is 0x44. > */ > + pci_conf_write(tag, CLPD6832_LEGACY_16BIT_IOADDR, (0x3e0 + 2) | PCI_MAP_IO); > io_port = pci_conf_read(tag, CLPD6832_LEGACY_16BIT_IOADDR) > & ~PCI_MAP_IO; > > > From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Dec 12 15:33:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA05828 for mobile-outgoing; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:33:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA05822 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:33:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ambrisko@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA13536; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:31:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from UNKNOWN(), claiming to be "crab.whistle.com" via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd013533; Fri Dec 12 15:31:34 1997 Received: (from ambrisko@localhost) by crab.whistle.com (8.8.8/8.6.12) id PAA24176; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:29:24 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Ambrisko Message-Id: <199712122329.PAA24176@crab.whistle.com> Subject: Re: Cardbus controller status request / notebook update In-Reply-To: <199712122238.PAA27990@mt.sri.com> from Nate Williams at "Dec 12, 97 03:38:42 pm" To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:29:24 -0800 (PST) Cc: ambrisko@whistle.com, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL29 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nate Williams writes: | > I have a CL6832 eval board and needed to add some code (lifted from PAO) | > to initialize the the port address. | | Ted, if you can review this to make sure your computer still works with | this, I'll commit it to the tree. Let me know please! | | > However, I'm still having trouble | > with the code in that interrupts don't seem to be working in that I | > keep getting device timeouts for the ethernet (this happens with PAO and | > current). | | Hmmm... You're saying the interrupts are correctly registered with the | devices (you get correct probe information), but the interrupts are | getting lost? Yes this is appears to be my problem. The probe finds the card, attaches the driver (ed). When I do an ifconfig I see the ether address but get a device timeout during pine. Looking on various web pages from TI in which they have an explanation of different interrupt methods. They talk about a bit that needs to be twitled in order to enable ISA mode interrupts to happen. So it is my best guess that interrupts are not happening since I had the same problem when I had and interrupts problem on my laptop with TI1130. I guess my question is, that when booting -v with a 6832 what does the probe return for the port of the 6832? On my card it returned 0. Then when it set the emulation to work at port 0, it didn't work. My setup is a bit odd. I have a 6832 eval card that goes into a PCI slot. A cable goes from this card to an ISA card to trigger ISA interrupts. Kind-of neat. Unfortunately I didn't get any programming doc's with this card so I need to ask for them. I have a belief that some laptop BIOS's have the code to set this stuff up so old drivers work with the new chip. Since, I'm just using a standard old PC my BIOS doesn't touch it. Hopefully I get a better kit from TI with better doc. Doug A. From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Dec 12 15:41:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA06302 for mobile-outgoing; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:41:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA06255 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:41:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from harmony [10.0.0.6] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0xgehL-0005ZJ-00; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 16:40:47 -0700 Received: (from imp@localhost) by harmony.village.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) id QAA24542 for freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 16:41:30 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 16:41:30 -0700 (MST) From: Warner Losh Message-Id: <199712122341.QAA24542@harmony.village.org> To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: DMA? Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there DMA support in the -current pccard stuff? Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Dec 12 15:46:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA06655 for mobile-outgoing; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:46:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA06639 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:46:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA29059; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 16:46:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA28316; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 16:46:32 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 16:46:32 -0700 Message-Id: <199712122346.QAA28316@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Doug Ambrisko Cc: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams), freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cardbus controller status request / notebook update In-Reply-To: <199712122329.PAA24176@crab.whistle.com> References: <199712122238.PAA27990@mt.sri.com> <199712122329.PAA24176@crab.whistle.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > | > However, I'm still having trouble > | > with the code in that interrupts don't seem to be working in that I > | > keep getting device timeouts for the ethernet (this happens with PAO and > | > current). > | > | Hmmm... You're saying the interrupts are correctly registered with the > | devices (you get correct probe information), but the interrupts are > | getting lost? > > Yes this is appears to be my problem. The probe finds the card, attaches > the driver (ed). When I do an ifconfig I see the ether address but > get a device timeout during pine. Looking on various web pages from TI in > which they have an explanation of different interrupt methods. They talk > about a bit that needs to be twitled in order to enable ISA mode interrupts > to happen. So it is my best guess that interrupts are not happening since > I had the same problem when I had and interrupts problem on my laptop with > TI1130. Ahh, this is only for the TI1130? I didnt' realize that this even worked with FreeBSD w/out the PAO patches. > I guess my question is, that when booting -v with a 6832 what does the > probe return for the port of the 6832? On my card it returned 0. What do you mean? The ISA emulation port? Ted would be the guy to know what it normally says. > Then > when it set the emulation to work at port 0, it didn't work. My setup is > a bit odd. I have a 6832 eval card that goes into a PCI slot. A cable > goes from this card to an ISA card to trigger ISA interrupts. Kind-of neat. Sounds pretty cool. > Unfortunately I didn't get any programming doc's with this card so I need > to ask for them. I have a belief that some laptop BIOS's have the code > to set this stuff up so old drivers work with the new chip. Since, I'm > just using a standard old PC my BIOS doesn't touch it. ;( Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Dec 12 16:27:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA09763 for mobile-outgoing; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 16:27:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA09748 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 16:27:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ambrisko@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA15388; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 16:26:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from UNKNOWN(), claiming to be "crab.whistle.com" via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpda15381; Fri Dec 12 16:26:33 1997 Received: (from ambrisko@localhost) by crab.whistle.com (8.8.8/8.6.12) id QAA24333; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 16:22:24 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Ambrisko Message-Id: <199712130022.QAA24333@crab.whistle.com> Subject: Re: Cardbus controller status request / notebook update In-Reply-To: <199712122346.QAA28316@mt.sri.com> from Nate Williams at "Dec 12, 97 04:46:32 pm" To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 16:22:23 -0800 (PST) Cc: ambrisko@whistle.com, nate@mt.sri.com, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL29 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nate Williams writes: | Ahh, this is only for the TI1130? I didnt' realize that this even | worked with FreeBSD w/out the PAO patches. Yes current has been working for a while with my NEC Versa 6030X. It uses a TI1130. Basically it just emulates the VLSI 82C146 in default ISA mode which I think the BIOS programs it for. | > I guess my question is, that when booting -v with a 6832 what does the | > probe return for the port of the 6832? On my card it returned 0. | | What do you mean? The ISA emulation port? Ted would be the guy to know | what it normally says. The port printed in the following message: if (bootverbose) printf("CardBus: Legacy PC-card 16bit I/O address [0x%x]\n", io_port); Emulation appears to be in a couple of modes: ISA legacy -> look like an old style controller on the ISA bus. Interrupt only -> the controller runs on PCI but can trigger ISA interrupts with ISA interrupt glue. Doug A. From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Dec 12 16:47:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA11227 for mobile-outgoing; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 16:47:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from word.smith.net.au (ppp5.portal.net.au [202.12.71.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA11216 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 16:47:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA00582; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 11:12:30 +1030 (CST) Message-Id: <199712130042.LAA00582@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Warner Losh cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DMA? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 12 Dec 1997 16:41:30 PDT." <199712122341.QAA24542@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 11:12:29 +1030 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is there DMA support in the -current pccard stuff? Not AFAIK. DMA and suddenly-removable hardware is a truly frightening thought. mike From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Dec 12 17:07:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA12238 for mobile-outgoing; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 17:07:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA12229 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 17:07:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from harmony [10.0.0.6] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0xgg3K-0005bc-00; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 18:07:34 -0700 Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id SAA24998; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 18:08:28 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199712130108.SAA24998@harmony.village.org> To: Mike Smith Subject: Re: DMA? Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 13 Dec 1997 11:12:29 +1030." <199712130042.LAA00582@word.smith.net.au> References: <199712130042.LAA00582@word.smith.net.au> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 18:08:28 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199712130042.LAA00582@word.smith.net.au> Mike Smith writes: : Not AFAIK. DMA and suddenly-removable hardware is a truly frightening : thought. Yes. that makes support for floppies a little difficult, now doesn't it. I have some preliminary work on the floppy stuff, but it keeps failing for reasons that I've not tracked down. This is way before the DMA stuff gets involved... I was just wondering if there was support for DMA, or if I had to add it myself. Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Dec 12 18:32:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA16868 for mobile-outgoing; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 18:32:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from tnt.isi.edu (tnt.isi.edu [128.9.128.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA16862 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 18:32:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from faber@ISI.EDU) Received: from ISI.EDU (vex-s.isi.edu [128.9.192.240]) by tnt.isi.edu (8.8.7/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA11402; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 18:32:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199712130232.SAA11402@tnt.isi.edu> To: Doug Ambrisko Cc: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams), freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cardbus controller status request / notebook update In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:29:24 PST." <199712122329.PAA24176@crab.whistle.com> X-Url: http://www.isi.edu/~faber Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 18:32:22 -0800 From: Ted Faber Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Doug Ambrisko wrote: >I guess my question is, that when booting -v with a 6832 what does the >probe return for the port of the 6832? On my card it returned 0. Then >when it set the emulation to work at port 0, it didn't work. Hurm. Now *thatt's weird. I'll take a look tomorrow, but I think your card has some funny defaults set. Your override looked OK, but I haven't checked in detail. I'll try to make time tomorrow to investigate. > My setup is >a bit odd. I have a 6832 eval card that goes into a PCI slot. A cable >goes from this card to an ISA card to trigger ISA interrupts. Kind-of neat. >Unfortunately I didn't get any programming doc's with this card so I need >to ask for them. I have a belief that some laptop BIOS's have the code >to set this stuff up so old drivers work with the new chip. Since, I'm >just using a standard old PC my BIOS doesn't touch it. Ye Gods, man, where'd you get *that* thing. :-) :-) Seriously, any sign of documentation for it? Can you tell me what board it is? Your guess about BIOS setup being fritzed may be true. Is the thing PnP? Maybe we can init it through Luigi's PnP stuff. Take all of that with a grain of salt, I'll know the right questions to ask once I look over the code tomorrow. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ted Faber faber@isi.edu USC/ISI Computer Scientist http://www.isi.edu/~faber (310) 822-1511 x190 PGP Key: http://www.isi.edu/~faber/pubkey.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNJHztIb4eisfQ5rpAQFD9wP/Ulq95z4a1m44U/Cu/Ib6fYso671yQF8P CuxUXjCIEeALb0JLjV272Ff4AACMDbeLXbCHDBUCdTYre/7LUePsQSk/3tsIMnB5 O+XKp73/9bmNYPCy3hqrp01ryOTPO5j0vDGfbTA4K/yP9NxIkCZcyMku16pKVH9Q FR5Uc4feAVA= =E4fl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Dec 13 00:34:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA05011 for mobile-outgoing; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 00:34:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from word.smith.net.au (ppp5.portal.net.au [202.12.71.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA05005 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 00:34:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA01822; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 18:59:05 +1030 (CST) Message-Id: <199712130829.SAA01822@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Ken Key cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: APM suspend/resume and the "calltodo" timer list. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 10 Dec 1997 11:29:21 CDT." <199712101629.LAA13982@duncan.cs.utk.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 18:59:04 +1030 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi Folks, Hi Ken, sorry I haven't responded before, but I have been thinking about this one a while. > I'm soliciting the mobile community at large for suggestions of things I > may not have thought about that this might negatively effect in the OS. > The worst I have come up with is just that the system potentially could > become very busy at startup time running all the expired timers that have > collapsed together. I think this has been the concern thus far. To be honest, though, I think your point about long timeouts is really quite valid, and the impact of expiring short timeouts in a bunch at resume time is probably, as you suggest, quite low. > I haven't noticed this thus far on my tp560, but I > won't claim having performed an exhaustive analysis. If nothing bad comes > up in this testing, I'll post my patch. That'd be good. I think you're on the right track, FWIW. mike From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Dec 13 16:05:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA25578 for mobile-outgoing; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 16:05:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA25573 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 16:05:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA08278; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 17:05:26 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA00725; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 17:05:25 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 17:05:25 -0700 Message-Id: <199712140005.RAA00725@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DMA? In-Reply-To: <199712122341.QAA24542@harmony.village.org> References: <199712122341.QAA24542@harmony.village.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is there DMA support in the -current pccard stuff? I don't believe so. Nate From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Dec 13 20:19:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA06576 for mobile-outgoing; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 20:19:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile) Received: from dry2.jps.net (dry2.jps.net [208.25.63.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA06567 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 20:19:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ludwigp@bigfoot.com) Received: from speedy.pcscons.net (istk-port2027.jps.net [208.25.50.50]) by dry2.jps.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA15071 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 20:19:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971213201900.00834a40@mail.jps.net> X-Sender: ludwigp@mail.jps.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 20:19:00 -0800 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: Ludwig Pummer Subject: Chembook w/ Chips & Technologies 65548 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I recently got a Chembook OHP notebook (got a bargain on an old demo model, P133, 20MB RAM, 1.3GB HD, Vadem 468 PCMCIA controller, ESS688) and loaded FreeBSD (2.2.1-R) on it. I was at first discouraged by the garbled video and locking up during installation, but the PAO page's laptop survey contained a solution (thank you, terry@venus.sunquest.com). So I got FreeBSD 2.2.1-R working using the pcvt console. BUT...I couldn't get my PCMCIA ethernet card to work with the pccard-test and decided to just jump ahead to 2.2.5-Release w/PAO. My question: Does 2.2.5-R's sc0 console work with the CT65548? Do I need some LINT options in the kernel ("SLOW_VGA") ? Thanks in advance, --Ludwig Pummer ------------------------------------------------------------------ ludwigp@bigfoot.com ICQ UIN: 692441 http://chipweb.home.ml.org PGP Key & Geek Code available on web page