From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sun Jul 19 12:38:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12796 for freebsd-advocacy-outgoing; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 12:38:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from buford.the-link.net (proxy.zebra.net [209.136.2.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12757 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 12:38:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from saten@shell.zebra.net) Received: from shell.zebra.net (shell.zebra.net [209.12.240.129]) by buford.the-link.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA20216 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 14:41:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (saten@localhost) by shell.zebra.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA01273; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 14:35:19 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from saten@shell.zebra.net) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 14:35:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Phillip Salzman To: "Jan B. Koum " cc: Mark Diekhans , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD JVM crashes and burns in public... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 18 Jul 1998, Jan B. Koum wrote: > > How is this suppose to us feel better?!?! Don't you understand that > someone who has no clue and will read this article will thing that free > software is crap? DON'T YOU? I'd rather have someone use Linux then > Microsoft. Jeez... go read http://editorials.freshmeat.net/jordan980713/ > > -- Yan Just because we are related (FreeBSD+Linux) at the free software level does not mean we are friends. This is the real world, you do not gain market share by having people use someone elses operating system. No one ever said Linux was crap, I was just pointing out that we were not butched and other OS's scored a less-than-wanted review. It just happens that other OS was also a free one. And, yes, our java support needs a lot of work. It is not yet the best, but in time it will be. To develop a market share required to be one of the key players, we must also aquire a competive state of mind. Not all out bashing of another operating system, but proving that we are better. In that benchmark, we lost. The java program core dumped, making us lose. We did, infact, score better on how fast the program ran; if I remember correctly. Please do not jump all over me for and START TYPING IN CAPS for no apparent reason except because you did not like me basicly saying that both OS's failed the benchmark. FreeBSD and Linux both need major work in their Java support, this is true for our OS's, I did not say all free software sucks. If I did, I would have no reason to continue to do what I am. -- Phillip Salzman eclipse@gulf.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message