From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Nov 29 04:15:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA24289 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 04:15:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from silver.gn.iaf.nl (silver.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA24284 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 04:15:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by silver.gn.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA09495; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:15:37 +0100 Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA32126 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:53:10 +0100 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id MAA04187; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:49:46 +0100 (CET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199811291149.MAA04187@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: building -current for Alpha In-Reply-To: <199811290008.QAA27731@burka.rdy.com> from Dima Ruban at "Nov 28, 98 04:08:10 pm" To: dima@best.net Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:49:46 +0100 (CET) Cc: mike@smith.net.au, jb@cimlogic.com.au, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As Dima Ruban wrote... > Wilko Bulte writes: > > Any chance some kind soul can get me a recent kernel like that? I noticed > > > options "NTIMECOUNTER=10" > > I'll upload such a kernel to ftp://burka.rdy.com/pub/alpha/ as soon > as I finish compiling it. Thanks, grabbed it. The make buildworld is running again. NoNames being what they are it will take some time before I can tell the outcome. > -- dima Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Nov 29 20:16:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA14275 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:16:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from silver.gn.iaf.nl (silver.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA14259 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:16:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by silver.gn.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA10321; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 05:15:39 +0100 Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA06595 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Mon, 30 Nov 1998 04:58:36 +0100 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id AAA06043; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 00:12:02 +0100 (CET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199811292312.AAA06043@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: building -current for Alpha In-Reply-To: From wilko at "Nov 29, 98 12:49:46 pm" To: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl (wilko) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 00:12:02 +0100 (CET) Cc: dima@best.net, mike@smith.net.au, jb@cimlogic.com.au, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As wilko wrote... > As Dima Ruban wrote... > > Wilko Bulte writes: > > > Any chance some kind soul can get me a recent kernel like that? I noticed > > > > > > options "NTIMECOUNTER=10" > > > > I'll upload such a kernel to ftp://burka.rdy.com/pub/alpha/ as soon > > as I finish compiling it. > > Thanks, grabbed it. The make buildworld is running again. NoNames being what > they are it will take some time before I can tell the outcome. To followup on my own mail: no timecounter problems anymore it seems. Only the build falls over with: ld -o loader.sym -M -e start -N -Ttext 0x2000c000 start.o setdef0.o main.o conf.o bcache.o boot.o commands.o console.o devopen.o interp.o interp_backslash.o interp_parse.o load_aout.o load_elf.o ls.o misc.o module.o panic.o setdef1.o vers.o -lstand /usr/obj/elf/usr/src/sys/boot/alpha/boot2/../libalpha/libalpha.a -lstand >/usr/obj/elf/usr/src/sys/boot/alpha/boot2/loader.list main.o: In function `main': main.c(.text+0x268): undefined reference to `free_region' main.c(.text+0x26c): undefined reference to `free_region' *** Error code 1 I'll try to find out why tomorrow. Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Nov 29 20:47:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA16327 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:47:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from burka.rdy.com (burka.rdy.com [205.149.163.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA16322 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:47:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dima@burka.rdy.com) Received: (from dima@localhost) by burka.rdy.com (8.9.1/RDY&DVV) id UAA36164; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:47:20 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811300447.UAA36164@burka.rdy.com> Subject: Re: building -current for Alpha In-Reply-To: <199811292312.AAA06043@yedi.iaf.nl> from Wilko Bulte at "Nov 30, 1998 0:12: 2 am" To: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl (Wilko Bulte) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:47:20 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG X-Class: Fast Organization: HackerDome Reply-To: dima@best.net From: dima@best.net (Dima Ruban) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Try manually installing libstand before building boot blocks. Wilko Bulte writes: > Only the build falls over with: > > ld -o loader.sym -M -e start -N -Ttext 0x2000c000 start.o setdef0.o main.o > conf.o bcache.o boot.o commands.o console.o devopen.o interp.o > interp_backslash.o interp_parse.o load_aout.o load_elf.o ls.o misc.o > module.o panic.o setdef1.o vers.o -lstand > /usr/obj/elf/usr/src/sys/boot/alpha/boot2/../libalpha/libalpha.a -lstand > >/usr/obj/elf/usr/src/sys/boot/alpha/boot2/loader.list > main.o: In function `main': > main.c(.text+0x268): undefined reference to `free_region' > main.c(.text+0x26c): undefined reference to `free_region' > *** Error code 1 > > I'll try to find out why tomorrow. > > Wilko > _ ______________________________________________________________________ > | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl > |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl > ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > -- dima To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 30 02:56:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA13904 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 02:56:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hawk.it.pl (hawk.it.pl [195.116.138.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA13725 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 02:56:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sjarczyk@hawk.it.pl) Received: from hawk.it.pl (hawk.it.pl [195.116.138.194]) by hawk.it.pl (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA18540 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:55:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sjarczyk@hawk.it.pl) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:55:40 +0100 (CET) From: Sergiusz Jarczyk To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problem with install Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi I've just installed FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE on DEC AlphaServer 300 4/266 machine. After install I try to boot, but SRM give me info that Block 0 is not valid boot block. Can someone tell me, step by step, what should I do ? Regards. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 30 05:28:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA25714 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 05:28:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (ppp7.portal.net.au [202.12.71.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA25709 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 05:28:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA00993; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 02:01:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199811291001.CAA00993@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Mike Haertel , shimon@simon-shapiro.org, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: argh^2 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 07 Nov 1998 10:25:49 PST." <11901.910463149@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 02:01:20 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > - The bit about not making the root disk bootable still isn't fixed yet. > > I had to boot off the floppy and fix it manually. > > Sorry, could you refresh my memory - you're saying we need to set a > partition active, or something? I'm not sure what the problem is > here. libdisk is still doing things in the wrong order (or not at all) to get the first-stage bootstrap onto the disk; the equivalent of "dislabel -B ..." isn't getting done. > Also, just curious: Is the kern.flp working correctly now in that it > prompts for and correctly loads the mfsroot, then boots? If not, I > still need to beat on the load script. This should be fixed with Paul's change to the way the block cache works. > > - To my surprise, the sysinstall partitioning phase did not find the > > old NetBSD partitions on the disk. The reason I find this surprising > > Didn't they just change to 0xA9 or something? FreeBSD's view of the > disk is determined solely by libdisk, so if it's out of sync with the > kernel's own partition search order, that's something to look into. There are no slices on an SRM-bootable disk; the disk has to be completely dedicated (not DD). This might be because they've changed something in the disklabel so that libdisk doesn't like it. > > - The sysinstall screen still gets the colors wrong. > > Hmmm. This should still be fixed, but even once it is we can perhaps > stick with the same color scheme just to differentiate the alpha > install? :-) 8) The problem is, as previously noted, a red/blue swap that needs to be compensated for in syscons. Kazu should be able to take care of this. Can you check that the boxes on the desk inside my office have gotten to Sharon and thus sent off? -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 30 07:05:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA05824 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 07:05:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (dryad.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA05819 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 07:05:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp) Received: from ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.156.43]) by mail.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.8.6/3.4Wbeta6-SAT1.0) with ESMTP id AAA18389 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 00:05:40 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp) Received: from localhost by ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.8.8/sat-V0.6) id AAA12806; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 00:05:40 +0900 (JST) To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: /usr/bin/mail X-Face: OE([KxWyJI0r[R~S/>7ia}SJ)i%a,$-9%7{*yihQk|]gl}2p#"oXmX/fT}Bn7:#j7i14gu$ jgR\S*&C3R/pJX Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 00:05:39 +0900 From: Hidetoshi Shimokawa X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 34 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Next, a patch to prevent /usr/bin/mail from unaligned access, obtained from NetBSD. /\ Hidetoshi Shimokawa \/ simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp PGP public key: finger -l simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp Index: strings.c =================================================================== RCS file: /pub/FreeBSD-CVS/src/usr.bin/mail/strings.c,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 diff -c -r1.1.1.1 strings.c *** strings.c 1994/05/27 12:32:07 1.1.1.1 --- strings.c 1998/11/29 06:41:14 *************** *** 64,71 **** int index; s = size; ! s += 3; ! s &= ~03; index = 0; for (sp = &stringdope[0]; sp < &stringdope[NSPACE]; sp++) { if (sp->s_topFree == NOSTR && (STRINGSIZE << index) >= s) --- 64,71 ---- int index; s = size; ! s += (sizeof (char *) - 1); ! s &= ~(sizeof (char *) - 1); index = 0; for (sp = &stringdope[0]; sp < &stringdope[NSPACE]; sp++) { if (sp->s_topFree == NOSTR && (STRINGSIZE << index) >= s) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 30 10:00:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA20625 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:00:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pacific.net (pacific.pacific.net [199.4.80.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA20616 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:00:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ufkartfm@pacific.net) Received: from pacific.net (slime-lake.pacific.net [209.209.2.250]) by pacific.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA18379; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:58:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36626C41.F519577A@pacific.net> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:58:25 +0000 From: curtis Organization: Flying Snail Ranch X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sergiusz Jarczyk CC: "freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Problem with install References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi again Sergiusz, (smile) remember that my target machine is a Multia and i have not been able to boot directly from the hard disk, except when i was running under NetBSD and (chuckle) another time when i did a 'dd' to the hard disk with the FreeBSD/alpha boot.flp (NOTE: DO NOT DO THIS!! (snicker)). in regard to the /dev/da0s1a and /dev/da0s1d and the reason for the abort, Mike Smith sent me this, which fixed that: > Looks like you need to do the "standard" disklabelling magic before > rebooting but after the install. > > > Can't open /dev/rda0s1a: Device not configured > > That's normal too; you need to update /etc/fstab by hand as sysinstall > is writing out the sliced version but the SRM console won't boot from a > sliced disk. > > Try: > > # mount /dev/da0a / > ... (other mounts as required) > # vi /etc/fstab > (remove 'sX' from device names) > # disklabel -B da0 > (should fix the inability to boot from dka0) > # reboot (fwiw) disklabel still does not seem to work correctly, so you have to boot from the floppy, as i mentioned in the last message. ***try this: after you install the system and after it reboots (you will probably get an error message), power cycle the machine. when the srm prompt appears >>> put the kern.flp disk in and type: boot dva0 (note: do not use any flags) (note: in theory, one should be able to type: boot dva0 -flags a and have it go all the way to the multiuser system. for the hard disk boot: >>>boot dka0 -file kernel -flags a ). when it asks for the mfsroot.gz disk, press return (with the kern.flp disk still in) when it asks about /bin/sh, press enter ....you should get a # prompt if you removed the s1 from /dev/da0s1a and /dev/da0s1d in /etc/fstab then you should be able to: mount /dev/da0a / and: swapon /dev/da0b which will allow you to write to your new FreeBSD/alpha machine IF THIS DOES NOT WORK _then_ get a copy of the NetBSD/alpha boot floppies (2) and set them aside install FreeBSD/alpha using the kern.flp & mfsroot.gz disks when the install is finished and asks for a reboot, do it, but you will probably get an error message. when the machine stops, power cycle it and boot the NetBSD/alpha floppy boot disks (>>>boot dva0). when it asks what you want to do, select: f: Exit Install System when the prompt appears: # mount /dev/sd0a /mnt # cd /mnt/etc at this point you can use 'ed' to remove the s1 from /dev/da0s1a and /dev/da0s1d, umount /dev/sd0a, shutdown -h now, power cycle, and follow the "***try this:" from above. (note: if you do not like 'ed' and would like to use 'vi', (imo - smile) this is where ftp can become your best friend. when you are in /mnt/etc (under the NetBSD/alpha floppies) you can (my example only - ymmv): # ifconfig de0 192.168.1.9 (i assign 192.168.1.9 to the Multia ether) # ftp 192.168.1.5 (the pc, I use for the Multia serial term) # put fstab (move fstab from Multia to PC and 'vi' it) # get fstab (note the next lines are from my Multia # cat fstab # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/da0b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/da0a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/cd0c /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 (note: there are some problems with vi and this ftp method (when running under FreeBSD/alpha) will allow you to edit the configuration file for building your kernel) i hope this will help and i am sending a copy to the list, in case some other folks would like to try this.. (smile) until the release is ready. (fwiw) it works for me and here is my current header: FreeBSD 3.0-19981124-SNAP #2: Sat Nov 28 17:01:57 GMT 1998 root@multia.alienbabies.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/alienbabies good luck and have fun, curtis Sergiusz Jarczyk wrote: > > Hi Curtis > Thank you for your advice. > When I hit ^D, I have information, that: > "#swapon: /dev/da0s1b: Device not configured > Skipping disk checks ... > mount: /dev/da0s1a on /: specified device does not match mounted device > Filesystem mount failed, startup aborted." > I work with FreeBSD over two years, but this is my first contact with > Alpha (and RISC at all). Can you tell me, what I must do, if I want to > boot from my SCSI drive, not floppy ? > Thanks. > -- curtis - ufkartfm@pacific.net - site administrator for Nobody I want Nobody to control my life! How about you? http://www.netvideo.com/nobody To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 30 10:03:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21243 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:03:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pacific.net (pacific.pacific.net [199.4.80.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21238 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:03:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ufkartfm@pacific.net) Received: from pacific.net (slime-lake.pacific.net [209.209.2.250]) by pacific.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA19543 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:03:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36626D6B.13CAE43@pacific.net> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:03:23 +0000 From: curtis Organization: Flying Snail Ranch X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Multia VX42 - Soft Error - Error #15 - FDC: CRC error Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The below appeared this morning (first time I have seen this one) and appears to only be a CRC error, but I thought I would mention it. /kernel data=0x21ba98+0x2a500 / *** Soft Error - Error #15 - FDC: CRC error Diagnostic Name ID Device Pass Test Hard/Soft 30-NOV-1998 boot 00000071 err_iob 0 0 0 1 8:36:32 *** End of Error *** (note: (smile) i have not been able to reproduce this and tried. it did not seem to affect anything -- oh well) -- curtis - ufkartfm@pacific.net - site administrator for Nobody I want Nobody to control my life! How about you? http://www.netvideo.com/nobody To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 30 10:33:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25192 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:33:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pacific.net (pacific.pacific.net [199.4.80.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25184 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:33:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ufkartfm@pacific.net) Received: from pacific.net (slime-lake.pacific.net [209.209.2.250]) by pacific.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA25793; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:32:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36627470.3229AD87@pacific.net> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:33:20 +0000 From: curtis Organization: Flying Snail Ranch X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sergiusz Jarczyk CC: "freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Problem with install - i mistated (typo). Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i wrote: /dev/da0s1d a few times - it should be: /dev/da0s1b and refers to the swap sorry, -- curtis - ufkartfm@pacific.net - site administrator for Nobody I want Nobody to control my life! How about you? http://www.netvideo.com/nobody To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 30 11:36:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03450 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:36:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pacific.net (pacific.pacific.net [199.4.80.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03436 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:36:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ufkartfm@pacific.net) Received: from pacific.net (slime-lake.pacific.net [209.209.2.250]) by pacific.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA09588 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:35:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3662832F.F132F7F8@pacific.net> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:36:15 +0000 From: curtis Organization: Flying Snail Ranch X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: (fyi) Alpha firmware updates Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org (fwiw) There seems to be a number of new firmware updates for the Alpha at: ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/readmes/v5.3/ -- curtis - ufkartfm@pacific.net - site administrator for Nobody I want Nobody to control my life! How about you? http://www.netvideo.com/nobody To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 30 14:45:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA26837 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:45:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from silver.gn.iaf.nl (silver.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA26826 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:45:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by silver.gn.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA20566; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 23:45:40 +0100 Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA04146 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Mon, 30 Nov 1998 23:18:29 +0100 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id WAA02072; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 22:02:04 +0100 (CET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199811302102.WAA02072@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: building -current for Alpha In-Reply-To: <199811300447.UAA36164@burka.rdy.com> from Dima Ruban at "Nov 29, 98 08:47:20 pm" To: dima@best.net Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 22:02:04 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As Dima Ruban wrote... > Try manually installing libstand before building boot blocks. Just did that and am now rebuilding world from scratch. Curious to see what happens, will know that by tomorrow. TNX Wilko > > Wilko Bulte writes: > > Only the build falls over with: > > > > ld -o loader.sym -M -e start -N -Ttext 0x2000c000 start.o setdef0.o main.o > > conf.o bcache.o boot.o commands.o console.o devopen.o interp.o > > interp_backslash.o interp_parse.o load_aout.o load_elf.o ls.o misc.o > > module.o panic.o setdef1.o vers.o -lstand > > /usr/obj/elf/usr/src/sys/boot/alpha/boot2/../libalpha/libalpha.a -lstand > > >/usr/obj/elf/usr/src/sys/boot/alpha/boot2/loader.list > > main.o: In function `main': > > main.c(.text+0x268): undefined reference to `free_region' > > main.c(.text+0x26c): undefined reference to `free_region' > > *** Error code 1 Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 30 15:18:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA00990 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:18:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (ppp7.portal.net.au [202.12.71.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00962 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:18:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA06231; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:16:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199811302316.PAA06231@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: curtis cc: "freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Multia VX42 - Soft Error - Error #15 - FDC: CRC error In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:03:23 GMT." <36626D6B.13CAE43@pacific.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:16:38 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is extremely common on the Multia; I get perhaps 100 of these reading a kernel. > The below appeared this morning (first time I have seen this one) and > appears to only be a CRC error, but I thought I would mention it. > > /kernel data=0x21ba98+0x2a500 / > > *** Soft Error - Error #15 - FDC: CRC error > > Diagnostic Name ID Device Pass Test Hard/Soft > 30-NOV-1998 > boot 00000071 err_iob 0 0 0 1 > 8:36:32 > > *** End of Error *** > > (note: (smile) i have not been able to reproduce this and tried. it did > not seem to affect anything -- oh well) > -- > curtis - ufkartfm@pacific.net - site administrator for Nobody > I want Nobody to control my life! How about you? > http://www.netvideo.com/nobody > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Nov 30 22:26:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA19787 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 22:26:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from toetag.com (toetag.com [206.169.92.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA19782 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 22:26:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@toetag.com) Received: (from tom@localhost) by toetag.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) id WAA00608 for freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 22:26:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 22:26:34 -0800 (PST) From: tom Message-Id: <199812010626.WAA00608@toetag.com> To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Dec 1 11:16:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05062 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 11:16:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from silver.gn.iaf.nl (silver.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05057 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 11:16:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by silver.gn.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA17019; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 20:15:59 +0100 Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA09181 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Tue, 1 Dec 1998 20:12:20 +0100 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id UAA11802; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 20:11:51 +0100 (CET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199812011911.UAA11802@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: building -current for Alpha In-Reply-To: <199811300447.UAA36164@burka.rdy.com> from Dima Ruban at "Nov 29, 98 08:47:20 pm" To: dima@best.net Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 20:11:51 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As Dima Ruban wrote... > Try manually installing libstand before building boot blocks. YES! Success: installing libstand did the trick. Make buildworld ran successfully now. It's now doing an installworld. Thanks, Wilko > > Wilko Bulte writes: > > Only the build falls over with: > > > > ld -o loader.sym -M -e start -N -Ttext 0x2000c000 start.o setdef0.o main.o > > conf.o bcache.o boot.o commands.o console.o devopen.o interp.o > > interp_backslash.o interp_parse.o load_aout.o load_elf.o ls.o misc.o > > module.o panic.o setdef1.o vers.o -lstand > > /usr/obj/elf/usr/src/sys/boot/alpha/boot2/../libalpha/libalpha.a -lstand > > >/usr/obj/elf/usr/src/sys/boot/alpha/boot2/loader.list > > main.o: In function `main': > > main.c(.text+0x268): undefined reference to `free_region' > > main.c(.text+0x26c): undefined reference to `free_region' > > *** Error code 1 Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 2 11:16:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23930 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 11:16:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from silver.gn.iaf.nl (silver.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23893 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 11:16:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by silver.gn.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA10604 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 20:15:45 +0100 Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA21809 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org); Wed, 2 Dec 1998 19:59:02 +0100 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id TAA01030 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 19:54:42 +0100 (CET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199812021854.TAA01030@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: installing boot? To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD-alpha mailing list) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 19:54:42 +0100 (CET) X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there, Now that I could compile -current/alpha successfully I had to reshuffle my diskpartitioning on the NoName. This I did using an older (Oct 22 or so) Netbsd install flop. I subsequently installed a binary FreeBSD (also an old one, the same rev that I used to build -current). After that all worked, I mounted the -current obj tree using NFS and did a make installworld. Went OK. But unfortunately booting is now a NO-NO: >>>boot -fi kernel.GENERIC (boot dka100.1.0.6.0 -file kernel.GENERIC -flags A) block 0 of dka100.1.0.6.0 is a valid boot block reading 15 blocks from dka100.1.0.6.0 bootstrap code read in base = 110000, image_start = 0, image_bytes = 1e00 initializing HWRPB at 2000 initializing page table at 102000 initializing machine state setting affinity to the primary CPU jumping to bootstrap code NetBSD/Alpha Primary Boot Jumping to entry point... halted CPU 0 halt code = 5 HALT instruction executed PC = 200017dc >>> I have the distinct feeling (somehow ;-) that I need to re-install the boot blocks/bits but I seem to be too dim to get it right. Pointers on a how-to appreciated, Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 2 15:38:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20757 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 15:38:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20744 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 15:38:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA59637; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 23:38:10 GMT Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 23:38:10 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Wilko Bulte cc: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: installing boot? In-Reply-To: <199812021854.TAA01030@yedi.iaf.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 2 Dec 1998, Wilko Bulte wrote: > Hi there, > > Now that I could compile -current/alpha successfully I had to reshuffle > my diskpartitioning on the NoName. This I did using an older (Oct 22 or so) > Netbsd install flop. I subsequently installed a binary FreeBSD (also an old > one, the same rev that I used to build -current). > > After that all worked, I mounted the -current obj tree using NFS and did > a make installworld. Went OK. > > But unfortunately booting is now a NO-NO: > > >>>boot -fi kernel.GENERIC > (boot dka100.1.0.6.0 -file kernel.GENERIC -flags A) > block 0 of dka100.1.0.6.0 is a valid boot block > reading 15 blocks from dka100.1.0.6.0 > bootstrap code read in > base = 110000, image_start = 0, image_bytes = 1e00 > initializing HWRPB at 2000 > initializing page table at 102000 > initializing machine state > setting affinity to the primary CPU > jumping to bootstrap code > > NetBSD/Alpha Primary Boot > Jumping to entry point... > > halted CPU 0 > > halt code = 5 > HALT instruction executed > PC = 200017dc > >>> > > I have the distinct feeling (somehow ;-) that I need to re-install the boot > blocks/bits but I seem to be too dim to get it right. > > Pointers on a how-to appreciated, You should be able to make the disk bootable by doing this: # disklabel -B /dev/da0c (or /dev/da1c etc.) or maybe: # disklabel -B -b /usr/mdec/boot1 /dev/da0c Make sure that /boot/loader exists in the root partition of the disk being booted (installworld should have made it). -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 2 16:26:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA27651 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 16:26:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pacific.net (pacific.pacific.net [199.4.80.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27642 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 16:26:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ufkartfm@pacific.net) Received: from pacific.net (slime-lake.pacific.net [209.209.2.250]) by pacific.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA29416 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 16:26:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36656A3D.B9E59F06@pacific.net> Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 16:26:37 +0000 From: curtis Organization: Flying Snail Ranch X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Multia - 3.0-19981128-SNAP - Report Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The mfsroot.gz in the 3.0-19981128-SNAP (on the Multia) caused the screen to freeze at: /stand/sysinstall Main Menu. I used the following devices and tested ANSI/VT100/FreeBSD Color & Mono P2 as the serial terminal Monitor and Digital keyboard/mouse connected to the Multia (smile) and an IBM3101 terminal Using mfsroot.gz from the 3.0-19981124-SNAP allowed me to complete the install. -- curtis - ufkartfm@pacific.net - site administrator for Nobody I want Nobody to control my life! How about you? http://www.netvideo.com/nobody To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 3 13:16:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA24818 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 13:16:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from silver.gn.iaf.nl (silver.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA24813 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 13:16:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by silver.gn.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA01757; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 22:15:50 +0100 Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA08374 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 22:12:25 +0100 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id WAA02614; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 22:09:00 +0100 (CET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199812032109.WAA02614@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: installing boot? In-Reply-To: from Doug Rabson at "Dec 2, 98 11:38:10 pm" To: dfr@nlsystems.com (Doug Rabson) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 22:08:57 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As Doug Rabson wrote... > On Wed, 2 Dec 1998, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > NetBSD/Alpha Primary Boot > > Jumping to entry point... > > > > halted CPU 0 > > > > halt code = 5 > > HALT instruction executed > > PC = 200017dc > > >>> > > > > I have the distinct feeling (somehow ;-) that I need to re-install the boot > > blocks/bits but I seem to be too dim to get it right. > > > > Pointers on a how-to appreciated, > > You should be able to make the disk bootable by doing this: > > # disklabel -B /dev/da0c (or /dev/da1c etc.) The problem is that this needs a FreeBSD disklabel, not a NetBSD one. The only thing I can currently boot is a NetBSD install flop. If I try to run the FreeBSD disklabel I get an error (bad system call ?? forgot the exact nature of the error). > or maybe: > > # disklabel -B -b /usr/mdec/boot1 /dev/da0c > > Make sure that /boot/loader exists in the root partition of the disk being > booted (installworld should have made it). /boot/loader was there, but it was empty. If I understand correctly the boot2 that FreeBSD built becomes /boot/loader. Correct? So, I put boot2 in /boot under the name loader NetBSD natively uses: $DONTDOIT /usr/mdec/installboot /mnt/boot /usr/mdec/bootxx \ /dev/r${drivename}c (taken from the NetBSD install script) to install the bootblocks. I tried to installboot a boot1 from FreeBSD in this way but that does not seem to work, I still get the same error. I admit that I don't know if that is even supposed to work at all :( NetBSD's disklabel is different, it does not seem to be able to install a bootblock like FreeBSD does. So, I took another angle: grabbed kern.flp and mfsroot from FreeBSD SNAP251198. Kern.flp boots OK, then asks for the MFSroot floppy. The .gz of mfsroot is: 835517 Dec 3 21:11 mfsroot.gz Ungzipping and vnconfig gives: /dev/vn0c 2839 2065 774 73% /mnt So: well over 1.44 Mb floppy size. Question: can the kernel use a gzipped mfsroot? Or what is the deal here (short of buying a jaz or netbooting)? Suggestions? TIA, Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 3 15:16:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10788 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 15:16:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from silver.gn.iaf.nl (silver.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10780 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 15:16:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by silver.gn.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA23825; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 00:15:37 +0100 Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA17189 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Fri, 4 Dec 1998 00:12:23 +0100 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id AAA04743; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 00:01:09 +0100 (CET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199812032301.AAA04743@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: installing boot? In-Reply-To: from Doug Rabson at "Dec 2, 98 11:38:10 pm" To: dfr@nlsystems.com (Doug Rabson) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 00:01:07 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As Doug Rabson wrote... > You should be able to make the disk bootable by doing this: > > # disklabel -B /dev/da0c (or /dev/da1c etc.) > > or maybe: > > # disklabel -B -b /usr/mdec/boot1 /dev/da0c > > Make sure that /boot/loader exists in the root partition of the disk being > booted (installworld should have made it). Well, I think I understand what has happened: My axp33 was installed originally with a NetBSD bootfloppy (somewhere in Oct). This gave me a NetBSD first stage boot, and a second stage boot living in /boot The installworld of FreeBSD wants a /boot directory to put /boot/loader and /boot/netboot into. Obviously NetBSD's first stage boot got upset now that it could not find /boot anymore. To get onto the road again I booted the NetBSD installflop again, ran /usr/mdec/installboot to get the NetBSD bootstuff back on the HD. Now I had a bootable HD again. I still want the FreeBSD bootbits so: mv /boot /boot.netbsd mkdir /boot cp loader /boot And then a new nit: axp33# ./disklabel -B -b /boot/boot1 da1 boot overlaps used partition a Warning, boot overlaps partition c, marked as FS_BOOT ./disklabel: cannot install boot program axp33# Hmmm. Does this mean I have to re-install from scratch afterall? Thanks, Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 3 15:36:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA12454 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 15:36:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12446 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 15:36:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA35707; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 15:36:39 -0800 (PST) To: Wilko Bulte cc: dfr@nlsystems.com (Doug Rabson), freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installing boot? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 03 Dec 1998 22:08:57 +0100." <199812032109.WAA02614@yedi.iaf.nl> Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 15:36:38 -0800 Message-ID: <35704.912728198@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > So, I took another angle: grabbed kern.flp and mfsroot from FreeBSD > SNAP251198. Kern.flp boots OK, then asks for the MFSroot floppy. The .gz > of mfsroot is: 835517 Dec 3 21:11 mfsroot.gz Ungzipping and vnconfig gives: > /dev/vn0c 2839 2065 774 73% /mnt > > So: well over 1.44 Mb floppy size. Question: can the kernel use a gzipped > mfsroot? Yes and no. You're supposed to just load the gzip'd mfsroot from the boot blocks which will then handle the actual decompression before the kernel ever sees it. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 3 22:26:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA25658 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 22:26:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pacific.net (pacific.pacific.net [199.4.80.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA25651 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 22:26:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ufkartfm@pacific.net) Received: from pacific.net (slime-lake.pacific.net [209.209.2.250]) by pacific.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA17933 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 22:26:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36671013.3E853E65@pacific.net> Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 22:26:27 +0000 From: curtis Organization: Flying Snail Ranch X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Multia - now booting from hard disk - flag problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I finally have it booting from the hard disk (smile) and disklabel -B -b /usr/mdec/boot1 /dev/da0c works for me. The new problem only occurs when I do: >>>boot dka0 -flags a or >>>boot dka0 and enter ^D at the prompt which results in a 'hang' at the date. The following snips were produced by: >>>boot dka0 -flags a ---- FreeBSD 3.0-19981128-SNAP #1: Fri Dec 4 05:29:02 GMT 1998 root@multia.alienbabies.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/alienbabies ---- sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A, console ---- swapon: adding /dev/da0b as swap device Automatic reboot in progress... /dev/rda0a: clean, 245664 free (16200 frags, 28683 blocks, 3.7% fragmentation) Doing initial network setup: hostname. de0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.1.19 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 ether 08:00:2b:e5:a6:33 media: autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: active supported media: autoselect 10base5/AUI manual 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 Additional routing options: tcp extensions=NO. routing daemons:. Mounting NFS file systems. recording kernel -c changes additional daemons: syslogd. Doing additional network setup: portmap. Starting final network daemons:. setting ELF ldconfig path: /usr/lib /usr/lib/compat setting a.out ldconfig path: /usr/lib/aout /usr/lib/compat/aout ldconfig: illegal option -- a usage: ldconfig [-Rmrsv] [-f hints_file] [dir | file ...] starting standard daemons: inetd cron sendmail. Initial rc.alpha initialization:. rc.alpha configuring syscons: blank_time/etc/rc.alpha: cannot open /dev/ttyv0: no such device or address . Local package initialization:. starting local daemons:. Fri Dec 4 05:38:08 GMT 1998 [this is where it hangs] I have tried this with the following devices uncommented: sc0 sio0 sio1, but for this run, I had sc0 & sio1 commented out, and it did not make a difference. There are NO problems if I boot without any flag or do not issue ^D at the prompt and mount everything by hand. (smile) Getting Better All the Time, -- curtis - ufkartfm@pacific.net - site administrator for Nobody I want Nobody to control my life! How about you? http://www.netvideo.com/nobody To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 3 22:40:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA26865 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 22:40:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from junior.lgc.com (junior.lgc.com [134.132.72.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA26859 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 22:40:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim.king@mail.sstar.com) Received: from oasis.zycor.lgc.com by junior.lgc.com (8.8.8/lgc.1.26) id AAA14263; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 00:39:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from maroon by oasis.zycor.lgc.com (8.8.8/lgc.1.20) id AAA11885; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 00:39:43 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199812040639.AAA11885@oasis.zycor.lgc.com> X-Sender: jim.king@mail.sstar.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 00:39:43 -0600 To: curtis , "freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG" From: Jim King Subject: Re: Multia - now booting from hard disk - flag problem In-Reply-To: <36671013.3E853E65@pacific.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 10:26 PM 12/3/98 +0000, curtis wrote: >I finally have it booting from the hard disk (smile) and >disklabel -B -b /usr/mdec/boot1 /dev/da0c works for me. > >The new problem only occurs when I do: >>>boot dka0 -flags a or >>>>boot dka0 and enter ^D at the prompt which results in a 'hang' >at the date. > [deleted] >Local package initialization:. >starting local daemons:. >Fri Dec 4 05:38:08 GMT 1998 >[this is where it hangs] My AlphaStation 200 does this also, but it's not actually hung. The serial console is unresponsive, but I can telnet to it from another box and everything works fine. I don't have a boot.conf - I was wondering if there needs to be some command in there, or maybe something /etc/ttys. Unfortunately I haven't had time to chase this down... Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 4 03:05:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA18387 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 03:05:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA18365 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 03:05:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA00420; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:05:47 GMT Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:05:46 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Wilko Bulte cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installing boot? In-Reply-To: <199812032301.AAA04743@yedi.iaf.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 4 Dec 1998, Wilko Bulte wrote: > As Doug Rabson wrote... > > > You should be able to make the disk bootable by doing this: > > > > # disklabel -B /dev/da0c (or /dev/da1c etc.) > > > > or maybe: > > > > # disklabel -B -b /usr/mdec/boot1 /dev/da0c > > > > Make sure that /boot/loader exists in the root partition of the disk being > > booted (installworld should have made it). > > Well, I think I understand what has happened: > > My axp33 was installed originally with a NetBSD bootfloppy (somewhere in > Oct). This gave me a NetBSD first stage boot, and a second stage boot living > in /boot > > The installworld of FreeBSD wants a /boot directory to put /boot/loader and > /boot/netboot into. Obviously NetBSD's first stage boot got upset now that > it could not find /boot anymore. > > To get onto the road again I booted the NetBSD installflop again, ran > /usr/mdec/installboot to get the NetBSD bootstuff back on the HD. Now I had > a bootable HD again. > > I still want the FreeBSD bootbits so: > > mv /boot /boot.netbsd > mkdir /boot > cp loader /boot Oh... I forgot about the way NetBSD loads the second stage bootstrap. They should take the code from my boot1 which understands UFS (originally from the i386 bootstrap). > > And then a new nit: > > axp33# ./disklabel -B -b /boot/boot1 da1 > boot overlaps used partition a > Warning, boot overlaps partition c, marked as FS_BOOT > ./disklabel: cannot install boot program > axp33# > > Hmmm. Does this mean I have to re-install from scratch afterall? > > Thanks, Try using da1c instead of da1. I don't think it works unless you specify the 'c' partition. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 4 06:26:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA05330 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 06:26:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pacific.net (pacific.pacific.net [199.4.80.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA05325 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 06:26:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ufkartfm@pacific.net) Received: from pacific.net (slime-lake.pacific.net [209.209.2.250]) by pacific.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA07891; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 06:26:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <366780A1.E7D98D0@pacific.net> Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 06:26:41 +0000 From: curtis Organization: Flying Snail Ranch X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim King CC: "freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Multia - now booting from hard disk - flag problem References: <199812040639.AAA11885@oasis.zycor.lgc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Good Morning Jim, Thank you! (blush - chuckle) It never occurred to me, to try telneting to the Multia (Wavy tells me this is due to chromosome amnesia from the '60s - snicker) and needless to say, it worked. $ telnet 192.168.1.19 Trying 192.168.1.19... Connected to 192.168.1.19. Escape character is '^]'. FreeBSD/alpha (multia.alienbabies.org) (ttyp1) login: ufkartfm Password: Last login: Fri Dec 4 13:35:12 from 192.168.1.5 Copyright (c) 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.0-19981128-SNAP (alienbabies) #1: Fri Dec 4 05:29:02 GMT 1998 $ su multia# On the P2 minicom (where I boot the Multia from and under the date where I thought it was hung) I am getting (smile) abbreviated messages (like a normal root window) in the form of a capital letter D when I 'su' under telnet; example follows (I have four 'su' telnet sessions running): Local package initialization:. starting local daemons:. Fri Dec 4 13:32:40 GMT 1998 <---- where I thought it was hanging DDDD <---- appear when I su from telnet so it looks like some information is making back to the boot window. Very Best2u, curtis Jim King wrote: > > At 10:26 PM 12/3/98 +0000, curtis wrote: > >I finally have it booting from the hard disk (smile) and > >disklabel -B -b /usr/mdec/boot1 /dev/da0c works for me. > > > >The new problem only occurs when I do: >>>boot dka0 -flags a or > >>>>boot dka0 and enter ^D at the prompt which results in a 'hang' > >at the date. > > > [deleted] > >Local package initialization:. > >starting local daemons:. > >Fri Dec 4 05:38:08 GMT 1998 > >[this is where it hangs] > > My AlphaStation 200 does this also, but it's not actually hung. The serial > console is unresponsive, but I can telnet to it from another box and > everything works fine. I don't have a boot.conf - I was wondering if there > needs to be some command in there, or maybe something /etc/ttys. > Unfortunately I haven't had time to chase this down... > > Jim -- curtis - ufkartfm@pacific.net - site administrator for Nobody I want Nobody to control my life! How about you? http://www.netvideo.com/nobody To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 4 10:46:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07686 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:46:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from silver.gn.iaf.nl (silver.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA07668 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:46:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by silver.gn.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA11190; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:45:44 +0100 Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA14685 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:44:42 +0100 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id TAA01130; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:40:28 +0100 (CET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199812041840.TAA01130@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: installing boot? In-Reply-To: <35704.912728198@zippy.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Dec 3, 98 03:36:38 pm" To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:40:28 +0100 (CET) Cc: dfr@nlsystems.com, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As Jordan K. Hubbard wrote... > > So, I took another angle: grabbed kern.flp and mfsroot from FreeBSD > > SNAP251198. Kern.flp boots OK, then asks for the MFSroot floppy. The .gz > > of mfsroot is: 835517 Dec 3 21:11 mfsroot.gz Ungzipping and vnconfig gives: > > /dev/vn0c 2839 2065 774 73% /mnt > > > > So: well over 1.44 Mb floppy size. Question: can the kernel use a gzipped > > mfsroot? > > Yes and no. You're supposed to just load the gzip'd mfsroot from > the boot blocks which will then handle the actual decompression before > the kernel ever sees it. OK, I do: FreeBSD/alpha SRM disk boot, Revision (jkh@beast.cdrom.com, Wed Nov 25 16:13:25 GMT 1998) Memory: 32768 k /kernel data=0x1e3f40+0x26918 syms=[0x8+0x3f210+0x8+0x25192] Please insert MFS root floppy and press enter: So, now it wants the mfsfloppy. This comes out of boot.conf: su-2.01# cat boot.conf @load /kernel @echo Please insert MFS root floppy and press enter: @read @load -t mfs_root /mfsroot @boot su-2.01# So I insert the mfsroot floppy: Please insert MFS root floppy and press enter: load: can't find '/mfsroot' Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. What is it trying to tell me here? Floppy bad? Is the mfsroot.gz a simple file on a UFS formatted floppy or is it dd-ed onto a floppy? Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 4 10:46:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07702 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:46:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from silver.gn.iaf.nl (silver.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA07674 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:46:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by silver.gn.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA11182; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:45:43 +0100 Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA14665 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:44:39 +0100 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id SAA00667; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 18:44:56 +0100 (CET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199812041744.SAA00667@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: installing boot? In-Reply-To: from Doug Rabson at "Dec 4, 98 10:05:46 am" To: dfr@nlsystems.com (Doug Rabson) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 18:44:56 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As Doug Rabson wrote... > On Fri, 4 Dec 1998, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > I still want the FreeBSD bootbits so: > > > > mv /boot /boot.netbsd > > mkdir /boot > > cp loader /boot > > Oh... I forgot about the way NetBSD loads the second stage bootstrap. Well, so did I ;-) > They should take the code from my boot1 which understands UFS (originally > from the i386 bootstrap). Maybe they should, I'm not sure what their ideas are. > > And then a new nit: > > > > axp33# ./disklabel -B -b /boot/boot1 da1 > > boot overlaps used partition a > > Warning, boot overlaps partition c, marked as FS_BOOT > > ./disklabel: cannot install boot program > > axp33# > > > > Hmmm. Does this mean I have to re-install from scratch afterall? > > > > Thanks, > > Try using da1c instead of da1. I don't think it works unless you specify > the 'c' partition. Unfortunately: axp33# disklabel -B -b /boot/boot1 da1c boot overlaps used partition a Warning, boot overlaps partition c, marked as FS_BOOT disklabel: cannot install boot program axp33# disklabel -B -b /boot/boot1 /dev/rda1c boot overlaps used partition a Warning, boot overlaps partition c, marked as FS_BOOT disklabel: cannot install boot program axp33# I tried to be tricky by: mv /boot /boot.netbsd mkdir /boot & populate with /boot/loader And then: boot -fi /boot/loader Alas: unknow executable format For the rest everything works just fine using the NetBSD boot-bits. Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 4 16:55:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA15407 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 16:55:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA15401; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 16:55:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA02112; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 16:56:28 -0800 (PST) To: Wilko Bulte cc: dfr@nlsystems.com, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, msmith@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installing boot? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 04 Dec 1998 19:40:28 +0100." <199812041840.TAA01130@yedi.iaf.nl> Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 16:56:27 -0800 Message-ID: <2108.912819387@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Please insert MFS root floppy and press enter: > > load: can't find '/mfsroot' > > Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. Hmmmm. OK, over to Mike at this point - I thought it was supposed to find /mfsroot.gz automagically but evidently that's now broken. Sure would be nice if we could just work out whether it's going to be "magic" or not and just stick to it. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 4 17:13:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16751 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:13:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (ppp3.portal.net.au [202.12.71.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16745; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:13:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA01174; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:11:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812050111.RAA01174@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Wilko Bulte , dfr@nlsystems.com, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, msmith@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installing boot? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 04 Dec 1998 16:56:27 PST." <2108.912819387@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 17:11:20 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Please insert MFS root floppy and press enter: > > > > load: can't find '/mfsroot' > > > > Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. > > Hmmmm. OK, over to Mike at this point - I thought it was supposed > to find /mfsroot.gz automagically but evidently that's now broken. > Sure would be nice if we could just work out whether it's going to > be "magic" or not and just stick to it. :) Make sure that you're using an up-to-date /boot/loader, and then try 'ls' on the floppy in question please. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 4 17:45:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA19506 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:45:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from silver.gn.iaf.nl (silver.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA19494; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:45:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by silver.gn.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA21525; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 02:45:37 +0100 Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA04959 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Sat, 5 Dec 1998 02:42:09 +0100 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id CAA04829; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 02:27:44 +0100 (CET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199812050127.CAA04829@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: installing boot? In-Reply-To: <2108.912819387@zippy.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Dec 4, 98 04:56:27 pm" To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 02:27:44 +0100 (CET) Cc: dfr@nlsystems.com, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, msmith@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As Jordan K. Hubbard wrote... > > Please insert MFS root floppy and press enter: > > > > load: can't find '/mfsroot' > > > > Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. > > Hmmmm. OK, over to Mike at this point - I thought it was supposed > to find /mfsroot.gz automagically but evidently that's now broken. Well, I'm happy to know I was not the only one expecting that to work. > Sure would be nice if we could just work out whether it's going to > be "magic" or not and just stick to it. :) Whenever we can get it working I'll more than happy to write a short 'How-To' for Freebsd/axp. BTW: I don't like Freebsd/alpha, because of the overloading of alpha in the software engineering world. Not that I really like the axp phrase coined by Digital productmarketing but it at least makes a distinction with the 'other' alpha meaning. Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 4 17:45:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA19515 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:45:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from silver.gn.iaf.nl (silver.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA19495; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:45:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by silver.gn.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA21529; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 02:45:38 +0100 Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA05000 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Sat, 5 Dec 1998 02:44:54 +0100 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id CAA05084; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 02:46:45 +0100 (CET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199812050146.CAA05084@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: installing boot? In-Reply-To: <199812050111.RAA01174@dingo.cdrom.com> from Mike Smith at "Dec 4, 98 05:11:20 pm" To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 02:46:45 +0100 (CET) Cc: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, dfr@nlsystems.com, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, msmith@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As Mike Smith wrote... > > > Please insert MFS root floppy and press enter: > > > > > > load: can't find '/mfsroot' > > > > > > Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. > > > > Hmmmm. OK, over to Mike at this point - I thought it was supposed > > to find /mfsroot.gz automagically but evidently that's now broken. > > Sure would be nice if we could just work out whether it's going to > > be "magic" or not and just stick to it. :) > > Make sure that you're using an up-to-date /boot/loader, and then try > 'ls' on the floppy in question please. I understand I need mfsroot.gz on a UFS formatted floppy. I'll try this tomorrow. Need some sleep & get rid of some surplus beer first ;-) (02:45 now) Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 4 19:52:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA00297 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:52:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00290; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:52:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA02740; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:54:07 -0800 (PST) To: Wilko Bulte cc: dfr@nlsystems.com, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, msmith@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installing boot? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 05 Dec 1998 02:27:44 +0100." <199812050127.CAA04829@yedi.iaf.nl> Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 19:54:07 -0800 Message-ID: <2736.912830047@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Whenever we can get it working I'll more than happy to write a short > 'How-To' for Freebsd/axp. BTW: I don't like Freebsd/alpha, because of > the overloading of alpha in the software engineering world. Not that I I don't object, though with this everyone is also going to say that they really like "FreeBSD/xxx" (where xxx = an exactly 3 digit designator such as "x86" or "axp") since it then lines up so neatly in a multi-column ls. After which the FreeBSD/mip and FreeBSD/spc porting people will start screaming bloody murder. :-) :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 5 02:46:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA28737 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 02:46:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from octopus.originative.co.uk (originat.demon.co.uk [158.152.220.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA28726; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 02:46:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paul@originative.co.uk) Received: by OCTOPUS with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 10:44:50 -0000 Message-ID: From: Paul Richards To: "'Wilko Bulte'" , mike@smith.net.au Cc: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, dfr@nlsystems.com, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, msmith@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: installing boot? Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 10:44:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Wilko Bulte [mailto:wilko@yedi.iaf.nl] > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 1998 1:47 AM > To: mike@smith.net.au > Cc: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com; dfr@nlsystems.com; freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; > msmith@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: installing boot? > > > > I understand I need mfsroot.gz on a UFS formatted floppy. > I'll try this > tomorrow. Need some sleep & get rid of some surplus beer first ;-) I think the docs could do with some tweaking, it took me some time to work out exactly what I was supposed to do with the mfsroot.gz as well. Paul Richards Ph.D. Originative Solutions Ltd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 5 09:14:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA23005 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 09:14:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22999; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 09:14:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA09041; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 17:14:23 GMT Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 17:14:23 +0000 (GMT) From: Doug Rabson To: Paul Richards cc: "'Wilko Bulte'" , mike@smith.net.au, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, msmith@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: installing boot? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 5 Dec 1998, Paul Richards wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Wilko Bulte [mailto:wilko@yedi.iaf.nl] > > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 1998 1:47 AM > > To: mike@smith.net.au > > Cc: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com; dfr@nlsystems.com; freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; > > msmith@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: installing boot? > > > > > > > > I understand I need mfsroot.gz on a UFS formatted floppy. > > I'll try this > > tomorrow. Need some sleep & get rid of some surplus beer first ;-) > > I think the docs could do with some tweaking, it took me some time to > work out exactly what I was supposed to do with the mfsroot.gz as well. I think that mfsroot.gz should be put into a UFS formatted disk image. It would be much easier to just dd install.flp (or whatever) to a disk instead of trying to create a filesystem and copy mfsroot.gz into it. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 5 12:45:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09017 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 12:45:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from silver.gn.iaf.nl (silver.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09003; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 12:45:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by silver.gn.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA25648; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 21:45:39 +0100 Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA13269 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Sat, 5 Dec 1998 21:23:26 +0100 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id VAA22938; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 21:03:16 +0100 (CET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199812052003.VAA22938@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: installing boot? In-Reply-To: <2736.912830047@zippy.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Dec 4, 98 07:54:07 pm" To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 21:03:16 +0100 (CET) Cc: dfr@nlsystems.com, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, msmith@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As Jordan K. Hubbard wrote... > > Whenever we can get it working I'll more than happy to write a short > > 'How-To' for Freebsd/axp. BTW: I don't like Freebsd/alpha, because of > > the overloading of alpha in the software engineering world. Not that I > > I don't object, though with this everyone is also going to say that > they really like "FreeBSD/xxx" (where xxx = an exactly 3 digit > designator such as "x86" or "axp") since it then lines up so neatly in > a multi-column ls. After which the FreeBSD/mip and FreeBSD/spc > porting people will start screaming bloody murder. :-) :-) As long as you don't call it Freebsd/spr (SPR as is Software Problem Report) 8) Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 5 12:46:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09236 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 12:46:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from silver.gn.iaf.nl (silver.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09075; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 12:45:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by silver.gn.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA25656; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 21:45:40 +0100 Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA13281 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Sat, 5 Dec 1998 21:23:29 +0100 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id UAA22770; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 20:53:13 +0100 (CET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199812051953.UAA22770@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: installing boot? In-Reply-To: <199812050111.RAA01174@dingo.cdrom.com> from Mike Smith at "Dec 4, 98 05:11:20 pm" To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 20:53:13 +0100 (CET) Cc: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, dfr@nlsystems.com, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, msmith@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As Mike Smith wrote... > > > Please insert MFS root floppy and press enter: > > > > > > load: can't find '/mfsroot' > > > > > > Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. > > > > Hmmmm. OK, over to Mike at this point - I thought it was supposed > > to find /mfsroot.gz automagically but evidently that's now broken. > > Sure would be nice if we could just work out whether it's going to > > be "magic" or not and just stick to it. :) > > Make sure that you're using an up-to-date /boot/loader, and then try > 'ls' on the floppy in question please. Hi Mike, /boot/loader is approx 2 days old, built from -current. Is that new enough? I get: FreeBSD/alpha SRM disk boot, Revision (jkh@beast.cdrom.com, Wed Nov 25 16:13:25 GMT 1998) Memory: 32768 k /kernel data=0x1e3f40+0x26918 syms=[0x8+0x3f210+0x8+0x25192] Please insert MFS root floppy and press enter: load: can't find '/mfsroot' Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. Booting [kernel] in 8 seconds... Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help. disk0a:> ls ls: open '/' failed: no such file or directory disk0a:> /mfsroot.gz is on the floppy, on an UFS filesystem written by FreeBSD/x86: same floppy as seen from the x86 box: su-2.01# mount /flop su-2.01# ls -l /flop total 1640 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 835517 Dec 5 20:46 mfsroot.gz su-2.01# Stupid question: can FreeBSD/axp read FreeBSD/x86 UFS filesystems at all? UFS was not designed for portability in this respect if I'm not mistaken. Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 5 13:45:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14613 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 13:45:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from silver.gn.iaf.nl (silver.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14606; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 13:45:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by silver.gn.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA02949; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 22:45:42 +0100 Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA15500 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Sat, 5 Dec 1998 22:31:46 +0100 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id VAA23459; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 21:48:28 +0100 (CET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199812052048.VAA23459@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: installing boot? In-Reply-To: from Doug Rabson at "Dec 5, 98 05:14:23 pm" To: dfr@nlsystems.com (Doug Rabson) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 21:48:28 +0100 (CET) Cc: paul@originative.co.uk, mike@smith.net.au, jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, msmith@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As Doug Rabson wrote... > On Sat, 5 Dec 1998, Paul Richards wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Wilko Bulte [mailto:wilko@yedi.iaf.nl] > > > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 1998 1:47 AM > > > To: mike@smith.net.au > > > Cc: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com; dfr@nlsystems.com; freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; > > > msmith@FreeBSD.ORG > > > Subject: Re: installing boot? > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand I need mfsroot.gz on a UFS formatted floppy. > > > I'll try this > > > tomorrow. Need some sleep & get rid of some surplus beer first ;-) > > > > I think the docs could do with some tweaking, it took me some time to > > work out exactly what I was supposed to do with the mfsroot.gz as well. > > I think that mfsroot.gz should be put into a UFS formatted disk image. > It would be much easier to just dd install.flp (or whatever) to a disk > instead of trying to create a filesystem and copy mfsroot.gz into it. install.flp does not fit on a single floppy for FreeBSD/axp... Could use a harddisk for this purpose but that is pretty awkward at best. Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 5 13:45:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14668 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 13:45:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from silver.gn.iaf.nl (silver.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14607 for ; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 13:45:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by silver.gn.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA02929 for ; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 22:45:38 +0100 Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA15514 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org); Sat, 5 Dec 1998 22:31:50 +0100 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id WAA23781 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 22:10:36 +0100 (CET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199812052110.WAA23781@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: crash boom bang, or mount FreeBSD/x86 flop on Alpha To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD-alpha mailing list) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 22:10:36 +0100 (CET) X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD/axp does not really seem to like mounting a FreeBSD/x86 floppy: axp33# mount /dev/fd0a /mnt fatal kernel trap: trap entry = 0x2 (memory management fault) a0 = 0x80 a1 = 0x1 a2 = 0x0 pc = 0xfffffc0000457f08 ra = 0xfffffc0000457d08 curproc = 0xfffffe000249b2c0 pid = 214, comm = mount ddbprinttrap from 0xfffffc0000457f08 ddbprinttrap(0x80, 0x1, 0x0, 0x2) panic: trap panic Stopped at Debugger+0x2c: ldq ra,0(sp) <0xfffffe000251b960> db> db> trace Debugger() at Debugger+0x2c panic() at panic+0xf4 trap() at trap+0x658 XentMM() at XentMM+0x20 ffs_setblock() at ffs_setblock+0x628 (null)() at 0 db> When taking a closer look at dmesg I saw that there was not even a floppy device configured (GENERIC does not have it. Is the axp not yet capable of doing floppy interfaces?) Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 5 13:49:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA15119 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 13:49:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA15114 for ; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 13:49:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA02858; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 16:49:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA24077; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 16:49:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 16:49:46 -0500 (EST) To: Wilko Bulte Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD-alpha mailing list) Subject: Re: crash boom bang, or mount FreeBSD/x86 flop on Alpha In-Reply-To: <199812052110.WAA23781@yedi.iaf.nl> References: <199812052110.WAA23781@yedi.iaf.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <13929.43535.882458.355271@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wilko Bulte writes: > When taking a closer look at dmesg I saw that there was not even a floppy > device configured (GENERIC does not have it. Is the axp not yet capable > of doing floppy interfaces?) Last I checked, there were still some issues to be sorted out before ISA devices requiring DMA would work on FreeBSD/alpha Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 5 15:15:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22668 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 15:15:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from silver.gn.iaf.nl (silver.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22659 for ; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 15:15:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by silver.gn.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA19372; Sun, 6 Dec 1998 00:15:39 +0100 Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA21859 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Sun, 6 Dec 1998 00:07:31 +0100 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id XAA24834; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 23:25:58 +0100 (CET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199812052225.XAA24834@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: crash boom bang, or mount FreeBSD/x86 flop on Alpha In-Reply-To: <13929.43535.882458.355271@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> from Andrew Gallatin at "Dec 5, 98 04:49:46 pm" To: gallatin@cs.duke.edu (Andrew Gallatin) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 23:25:58 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As Andrew Gallatin wrote... > > Wilko Bulte writes: > > When taking a closer look at dmesg I saw that there was not even a floppy > > device configured (GENERIC does not have it. Is the axp not yet capable > > of doing floppy interfaces?) > > Last I checked, there were still some issues to be sorted out > before ISA devices requiring DMA would work on FreeBSD/alpha Hmm. I wanted to try creating a UFS flop using Freebsd/axp for the mfsroot.gz. So that is not possible. Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 5 19:33:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA13480 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 19:33:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from saturn.spel.com (saturn.spel.com [208.226.39.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13473 for ; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 19:33:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mturpin@saturn.spel.com) Received: from localhost (mturpin@localhost) by saturn.spel.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA04644 for ; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 22:29:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mturpin@saturn.spel.com) Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 22:29:40 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Turpin To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Multia - Install success - 3.0-19981125-SNAP Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, After an extended period (about 4 hours) of trying to find two good 3.5" floppies I successfully installed FreeBSD/Alpha on my Multia. Not too difficult, just took a long time. A couple of things I have questions on... I get an FDC: Data overrun or underrun error while booting the kern.flp. It didn't seem to be any problem, just an annoyance. Is this expected or might I have some hardware problem. Next question, How was the newfs done for the kern.flp image? However that was done it is the same way you need to make the mfsroot disk. I had to do the following to get the alpha to read the mfsroot.gz disk: dd if=kern.flp of=/dev/rfd0 mount /dev/fd0a /mnt rm -rf /mnt/* cp mfsroot.gz /mnt umount /mnt I tried fdformat/disklabel/newfs about 5 different ways and it never found mfsroot.gz on the disk. I have a webpage that documents my process of installing the system. it's at http://www.mainstreettech.com/~mturpin/alpha.html Mark ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Turpin | Consulting - Training - Network Installation Systems Engineer | Main Street Technology Centre | http://www.MainStreetTech.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 5 20:08:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA15861 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 20:08:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA15856 for ; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 20:08:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA04715; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 20:08:00 -0800 (PST) To: Mark Turpin cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Multia - Install success - 3.0-19981125-SNAP In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 05 Dec 1998 22:29:40 EST." Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 20:07:59 -0800 Message-ID: <4711.912917279@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Next question, How was the newfs done for the kern.flp image? However > that was done it is the same way you need to make the mfsroot > disk. I had to do the following to get the alpha to read the mfsroot.gz > disk: Yeah, I'm actually amazed that it worked during our x86 tests. Either that or we were all hallucinating at the time and only *thought* we saw the mfsroot.gz work as expected. :-) I can easily see how it would be hard to make a gzip'd filesystem be readable as a filesystem, yes. Fixed, thanks! I'll roll another alpha snapshot in the next day or so. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 5 20:13:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA16320 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 20:13:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA16313 for ; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 20:12:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA04754; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 20:12:06 -0800 (PST) cc: Mark Turpin , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Multia - Install success - 3.0-19981125-SNAP In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 05 Dec 1998 20:07:59 PST." <4711.912917279@zippy.cdrom.com> Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 20:12:06 -0800 Message-ID: <4750.912917526@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org P.S. Anyone know why the Alpha isn't permitting folks to use fully qualified slice names in /etc/fstab? I read Mark's web page and was just about to go "hey! that can't be right!" when I went to look at beast and saw that it was also using the compatability slice, presumably for good reason. WTF? Was I asleep in class that day? I missed something.. :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 5 23:27:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA27290 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 23:27:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (ppp5.portal.net.au [202.12.71.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA27284 for ; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 23:27:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA02601; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 22:48:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812060648.WAA02601@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Wilko Bulte cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installing boot? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 05 Dec 1998 20:53:13 +0100." <199812051953.UAA22770@yedi.iaf.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 22:48:12 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > As Mike Smith wrote... > > > > Please insert MFS root floppy and press enter: > > > > > > > > load: can't find '/mfsroot' > > > > > > > > Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. > > > > > > Hmmmm. OK, over to Mike at this point - I thought it was supposed > > > to find /mfsroot.gz automagically but evidently that's now broken. > > > Sure would be nice if we could just work out whether it's going to > > > be "magic" or not and just stick to it. :) > > > > Make sure that you're using an up-to-date /boot/loader, and then try > > 'ls' on the floppy in question please. > > Hi Mike, > > /boot/loader is approx 2 days old, built from -current. Is that new enough? Yes. > I get: > > FreeBSD/alpha SRM disk boot, Revision > (jkh@beast.cdrom.com, Wed Nov 25 16:13:25 GMT 1998) > Memory: 32768 k > /kernel data=0x1e3f40+0x26918 syms=[0x8+0x3f210+0x8+0x25192] > Please insert MFS root floppy and press enter: > > load: can't find '/mfsroot' > > Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. > Booting [kernel] in 8 seconds... > > Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help. > disk0a:> ls > ls: open '/' failed: no such file or directory Ok, this problem. > disk0a:> > > /mfsroot.gz is on the floppy, on an UFS filesystem written by FreeBSD/x86: Yes; there's some problem with floppy filesystems that I haven't been able to work out yet. Make a second copy of the kern.flp, delete the files off it and put the mfsroot.gz file on there instead. For some reason that seems to work OK. > Stupid question: can FreeBSD/axp read FreeBSD/x86 UFS filesystems at all? > UFS was not designed for portability in this respect if I'm not mistaken. It *should* be able to, but no guarantees. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 5 23:31:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA27665 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 23:31:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (ppp5.portal.net.au [202.12.71.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA27660 for ; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 23:31:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA02969; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 23:28:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812060728.XAA02969@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Mark Turpin cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Multia - Install success - 3.0-19981125-SNAP In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 05 Dec 1998 22:29:40 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 23:28:45 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > After an extended period (about 4 hours) of trying to find two > good 3.5" floppies I successfully installed FreeBSD/Alpha on my Multia. > Not too difficult, just took a long time. > > A couple of things I have questions on... > > I get an FDC: Data overrun or underrun error while booting the kern.flp. > It didn't seem to be any problem, just an annoyance. Is this expected or > might I have some hardware problem. It's common for the Multia; they seem to have very dodgy floppy hardware. > Next question, How was the newfs done for the kern.flp image? However > that was done it is the same way you need to make the mfsroot > disk. I had to do the following to get the alpha to read the mfsroot.gz > disk: > > dd if=kern.flp of=/dev/rfd0 > mount /dev/fd0a /mnt > rm -rf /mnt/* > cp mfsroot.gz /mnt > umount /mnt > > I tried fdformat/disklabel/newfs about 5 different ways and it never found > mfsroot.gz on the disk. I don't understand why this is going wrong. If you have a chance to look at the UFS code in libstand and try a few debugging printfs, I would be eternally grateful. > I have a webpage that documents my process of installing the system. it's > at http://www.mainstreettech.com/~mturpin/alpha.html Thanks; are you interested in expanding this into a general FreeBSD/AXP install guide? -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 5 23:32:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA27848 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 23:32:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (ppp5.portal.net.au [202.12.71.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA27843 for ; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 23:32:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA02994; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 23:30:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812060730.XAA02994@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Mark Turpin , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Multia - Install success - 3.0-19981125-SNAP In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 05 Dec 1998 20:07:59 PST." <4711.912917279@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 23:30:26 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Next question, How was the newfs done for the kern.flp image? However > > that was done it is the same way you need to make the mfsroot > > disk. I had to do the following to get the alpha to read the mfsroot.gz > > disk: > > Yeah, I'm actually amazed that it worked during our x86 tests. Either > that or we were all hallucinating at the time and only *thought* we > saw the mfsroot.gz work as expected. :-) I can easily see how it would > be hard to make a gzip'd filesystem be readable as a filesystem, yes. Er, I used "mount" and "cp" like you watched me do that evening... -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 5 23:33:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA27905 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 23:33:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (ppp5.portal.net.au [202.12.71.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA27895 for ; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 23:33:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA03007; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 23:31:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812060731.XAA03007@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Mark Turpin , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Multia - Install success - 3.0-19981125-SNAP In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 05 Dec 1998 20:12:06 PST." <4750.912917526@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 23:31:10 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > P.S. Anyone know why the Alpha isn't permitting folks to use fully > qualified slice names in /etc/fstab? I read Mark's web page and was > just about to go "hey! that can't be right!" when I went to look at > beast and saw that it was also using the compatability slice, > presumably for good reason. WTF? Was I asleep in class that day? I > missed something.. :-) There are no slices on the root disk; it's a truly dedicated layout. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message