From owner-freebsd-config Thu Jan 1 08:34:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA19498 for config-outgoing; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 08:34:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-config) Received: from mail.xmission.com (mail.xmission.com [198.60.22.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA19493 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 08:34:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from softweyr@xmission.com) Received: from xmission.com [166.70.3.9] by mail.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 1.73 #4) id 0xnnZL-0004O9-00; Thu, 1 Jan 1998 09:34:04 -0700 Message-ID: <34ABC746.E60276C0@xmission.com> Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 09:41:42 -0700 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Smith CC: freebsd-config@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Romeo & Juliet? References: <199801011352.AAA02039@word.smith.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-config@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Wes Peters wrote: > > o If I implement SSL in our server, *YOU* will never be able to see it. > > > > Since the last item is the primary hurdle, I've decided that I should go > > ahead with implementing the basic functionality of the server, i.e. the > > ability to make calls to Juliet and modify the system configuration, and > > we should probably draft someone outside the USA to add crypto features. > Mike Smith wrote: > Sounds pretty reasonable. If there's a neat drop-in point, that should > be relatively trivial. There will be, once I get the variable parser done. On order for the variable parser to do any reasonable work, I need to get a feel for how Juliet handles configuration items; it's kind of a chicken-and-egg siutation. > > So, at this point, do you have any documentation for Juliet? Other than > > the code? If not, is the code in suitable shape to start looking at it? > > Nothing documentation-wise that's ready for public consumption, I fear. > I thought I had actually got around to documenting the current state of > play, but it looks otherwise. > > You might want to look at my last postings to the -config list, as there > is a good chance that one of the last postings I made there covered the > current state of play with Juliet fairly well. Will do. I've subscribed to -config, and (obviously) copied this message to it, so we'll start getting archival of these messages. > > I'm afraid I've already slipped past any ability to get this into the 3.0 > > release, but I do want to make progress on it. > > We'll see. Regardless of deadlines, progress would be highly desirable. Yeah. That's kind of what I thought, too. > Juliet in its current glory is available at > ftp://ftp.gsoft.com.au/misc/juliet.tar.gz I'll go get it now. Oops, it was here before I could finish typing. 20K! Amazing! ;^) [Discussion of holidays elided for brevity. Suffice it to say that 11 days off, in a row, can be very nice.] > > Let me know what to do about Juliet. I'll keep you posted on progress in > > the server. I'm doing some construction in my basement in between hacking > > sessions, so this is quite a productive holiday for me. > > For now, get Juliet. Try reading the source; it's not large. Most > importantly, pester me about it. Post to the -config list, so that our > discussions get archived for reference too. Roger Wilco. I hope to have some semi-intelligent questions soon. Or perhaps I won't have any; your code may be so obvious I don't need to ask questions. ;^) -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.xmission.com/~softweyr softweyr@xmission.com From owner-freebsd-config Fri Jan 2 04:23:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id EAA29065 for config-outgoing; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 04:23:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-config) Received: from word.smith.net.au (ppp4.portal.net.au [202.12.71.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA29058 for ; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 04:23:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA00389; Fri, 2 Jan 1998 22:47:27 +1030 (CST) Message-Id: <199801021217.WAA00389@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Wes Peters cc: freebsd-config@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Romeo & Juliet? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 01 Jan 1998 09:41:42 PDT." <34ABC746.E60276C0@xmission.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 22:47:27 +1030 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-config@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > There will be, once I get the variable parser done. On order for the > variable parser to do any reasonable work, I need to get a feel for how > Juliet handles configuration items; it's kind of a chicken-and-egg siutation. When you say "variable parser", I'm not entirely sure what you mean. > > Juliet in its current glory is available at > > ftp://ftp.gsoft.com.au/misc/juliet.tar.gz > > I'll go get it now. Oops, it was here before I could finish typing. 20K! > Amazing! ;^) It's all this high-level language stuff. Seriously, it still needs some more file format support, and I'm not happy (yet) with the transaction model either, but I've never come up with a better one. I'd really appreciate *any* commentary on Juliet's internals; response to date has been zero. > Roger Wilco. I hope to have some semi-intelligent questions soon. Or perhaps > I won't have any; your code may be so obvious I don't need to ask questions. ;^) I hope it's not _that_ bad. 8) -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\