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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jun 28 19:30:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA19432 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:30:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA19373 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:30:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) id LAA01118; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:59:47 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19980629115947.H897@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:59:47 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Malartre Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hey Greg :-) I have finaly writed something on "How to ask a question" References: <35934C8F.562B7C4D@aei.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <35934C8F.562B7C4D@aei.ca>; from Malartre on Fri, Jun 26, 1998 at 03:23:59AM -0400 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 26 June 1998 at 3:23:59 -0400, Malartre wrote: > It's not perfect, but what do you think of it? > http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/how-to-ask.html Well, that got a lot of interest from the others, didn't it? Well, it's not what I would have written (in fact, it's not what I *did* write :-), but that's the intention. I suppose you need to work in the spelling, but that's not surprising for a second language, but there's always room for than one view of how to do things. How about a French version? Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jun 28 21:28:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA03688 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 21:28:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jkoshy@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA03666; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 21:28:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 21:28:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Koshy Message-Id: <199806290428.VAA03666@hub.freebsd.org> To: malachai@iname.com, jkoshy, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/7049 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Font tutorial on www.freebsd.org is technically incorrect with respect to TrueType fonts under X State-Changed-From-To: suspended-closed State-Changed-By: jkoshy State-Changed-When: Sun Jun 28 21:26:08 PDT 1998 State-Changed-Why: Updated in revision 1.2 of "fonts.docb". To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jun 28 22:08:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA06788 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:08:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gamma.aei.ca (root@gamma.aei.ca [206.123.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA06759 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:08:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from malartre@aei.ca) Received: from aei.ca (kaput@aeiusrI-36.aei.ca [206.186.205.186]) by gamma.aei.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA04275; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 01:08:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <359720B6.B9FD106C@aei.ca> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 01:05:58 -0400 From: Malartre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey CC: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hey Greg :-) I have finaly writed something on "How to ask a question" References: <35934C8F.562B7C4D@aei.ca> <19980629115947.H897@freebie.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greg Lehey wrote: > > On Friday, 26 June 1998 at 3:23:59 -0400, Malartre wrote: > > It's not perfect, but what do you think of it? > > http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/how-to-ask.html > > Well, that got a lot of interest from the others, didn't it? > > Well, it's not what I would have written (in fact, it's not what I > *did* write :-), but that's the intention. I suppose you need to work > in the spelling, but that's not surprising for a second language, but > there's always room for than one view of how to do things. > > How about a French version? > > Greg This was a try to structure and shortcut your version. I'am currently working with my dictionnary to improve it ;-) - I was thinking to put a link after each Always and Never has "Exemple" - I can do it in french, but who will read it? How many french people have FreeBSD? Not a lot... Anyway, I think I will write in both language. Maybe French people need a mailing list or something to improve the support? How it work on other language-mailing list? Does it's chating or answering? -- [Malartre] [malartre@aei.ca][ICQ#4224434][www.aei.ca/~malartre/][www.FreeBSD.ORG] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jun 28 22:14:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA07486 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:14:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA07481 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:14:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) id OAA01608; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:44:24 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19980629144423.R897@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:44:23 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Malartre Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: French docs (was: Hey Greg :-) I have finaly writed something on "How to ask a question") References: <35934C8F.562B7C4D@aei.ca> <19980629115947.H897@freebie.lemis.com> <359720B6.B9FD106C@aei.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <359720B6.B9FD106C@aei.ca>; from Malartre on Mon, Jun 29, 1998 at 01:05:58AM -0400 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday, 29 June 1998 at 1:05:58 -0400, Malartre wrote: > Greg Lehey wrote: >> >> On Friday, 26 June 1998 at 3:23:59 -0400, Malartre wrote: >>> It's not perfect, but what do you think of it? >>> http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/how-to-ask.html >> >> Well, that got a lot of interest from the others, didn't it? >> >> Well, it's not what I would have written (in fact, it's not what I >> *did* write :-), but that's the intention. I suppose you need to work >> in the spelling, but that's not surprising for a second language, but >> there's always room for than one view of how to do things. >> >> How about a French version? > > This was a try to structure and shortcut your version. I'am currently > working with my dictionnary to improve it ;-) > - > I was thinking to put a link after each Always and Never has "Exemple" > - > I can do it in french, but who will read it? Francophones. > How many french people have FreeBSD? Not a lot... One reason is the lack of documentation. > Anyway, I think I will write in both language. Maybe French people > need a mailing list or something to improve the support? How it work > on other language-mailing list? Does it's chating or answering? There are a number of French people active in the mailing lists. Let's see if somebody answers here first, otherwise I'll look for some. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jun 28 22:20:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA08060 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:20:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gamma.aei.ca (root@gamma.aei.ca [206.123.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA08052 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 22:20:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from malartre@aei.ca) Received: from aei.ca (kaput@aeiusrI-36.aei.ca [206.186.205.186]) by gamma.aei.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA04887; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 01:19:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35972367.9335F03B@aei.ca> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 01:17:27 -0400 From: Malartre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey CC: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: French docs (was: Hey Greg :-) I have finaly writed something on "How to ask a question") References: <35934C8F.562B7C4D@aei.ca> <19980629115947.H897@freebie.lemis.com> <359720B6.B9FD106C@aei.ca> <19980629144423.R897@freebie.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greg Lehey wrote: > > On Monday, 29 June 1998 at 1:05:58 -0400, Malartre wrote: > > Greg Lehey wrote: > >> > >> On Friday, 26 June 1998 at 3:23:59 -0400, Malartre wrote: > >>> It's not perfect, but what do you think of it? > >>> http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/how-to-ask.html > >> > >> Well, that got a lot of interest from the others, didn't it? > >> > >> Well, it's not what I would have written (in fact, it's not what I > >> *did* write :-), but that's the intention. I suppose you need to work > >> in the spelling, but that's not surprising for a second language, but > >> there's always room for than one view of how to do things. > >> > >> How about a French version? > > > > This was a try to structure and shortcut your version. I'am currently > > working with my dictionnary to improve it ;-) > > - > > I was thinking to put a link after each Always and Never has "Exemple" > > - > > I can do it in french, but who will read it? > > Francophones. > > > How many french people have FreeBSD? Not a lot... > > One reason is the lack of documentation. > > > Anyway, I think I will write in both language. Maybe French people > > need a mailing list or something to improve the support? How it work > > on other language-mailing list? Does it's chating or answering? > > There are a number of French people active in the mailing lists. > Let's see if somebody answers here first, otherwise I'll look for > some. > > Greg I agree, Francophones. Ok, I will translate all my current work in french. -- [Malartre] [malartre@aei.ca][ICQ#4224434][www.aei.ca/~malartre/][www.FreeBSD.ORG] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jun 29 00:00:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA19193 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 00:00:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA19167; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 00:00:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy@FreeBSD.org) From: Joseph Koshy Received: (from jkoshy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id XAA23611; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 23:59:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 23:59:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806290659.XAA23611@freefall.freebsd.org> To: tomita@cs.titech.ac.jp, jkoshy@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/6905 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: man description of mount_nfs abount -o conn option State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: jkoshy State-Changed-When: Sun Jun 28 23:59:00 PDT 1998 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in rev 1.13 of "mount_nfs.8", thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jun 29 07:30:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA25378 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 07:30:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA25370 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 07:30:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id HAA06346; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 07:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tim.xenologics.com (tim.xenologics.com [194.77.5.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA23295 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 07:21:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from seggers@semyam.dinoco.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tim.xenologics.com (8.8.5/8.8.8) with UUCP id QAA08091 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:18:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from seggers@localhost) by semyam.dinoco.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA28432; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:51:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from seggers) Message-Id: <199806291251.OAA28432@semyam.dinoco.de> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:51:28 +0200 (CEST) From: Stefan Eggers Reply-To: seggers@semyam.dinoco.de To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: seggers@semyam.dinoco.de X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/7109: correction to atrun(8) grammar Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 7109 >Category: docs >Synopsis: correction to atrun(8) grammar >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Jun 29 07:30:00 PDT 1998 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Stefan Eggers >Organization: none >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386 >Environment: 2.2-stable CVSUped last weekend. >Description: One of the sentences in atrun(8) seems to be seriously wrong with its grammar. My suggestion how to change it you can find below. >How-To-Repeat: Read the man page. Does it sound correct? >Fix: --- atrun.man.ORIG Fri Dec 12 08:15:35 1997 +++ atrun.man Mon Jun 29 14:44:09 1998 @@ -27,7 +27,7 @@ .Pp At every invocation, every job in lowercase queues whose starting time has passed is started. -A maximum of one batch jobs (denoted by uppercase queues) are started +A maximum of one batch job (denoted by uppercase queues) is started each time .Nm is invoked. >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jun 29 08:29:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05126 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:29:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tyree.iii.co.uk (tyree.iii.co.uk [195.89.149.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05119 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:28:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@iii.co.uk) From: nik@iii.co.uk Received: from carrig.strand.iii.co.uk (carrig.strand.iii.co.uk [192.168.7.25]) by tyree.iii.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA09441 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:28:54 +0100 (BST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by carrig.strand.iii.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) id QAA06126; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:28:32 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <19980629162831.32234@iii.co.uk> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:28:32 +0100 To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Copyright on the Handbook? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e Organization: interactive investor Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, What's the copyright/licensing situation on the Handbook? Unless I'm looking in the wrong place, it doesn't even appear to the have the BSD Copyright applied to it. I'd feel slightly more comfortable if copyright was assigned to the FreeBSD project (or one of the officers thereof). N -- Work: nik@iii.co.uk | FreeBSD + Perl + Apache Rest: nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk | Remind me again why we need Play: nik@freebsd.org | Microsoft? 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jun 29 12:47:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24307 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:47:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gamma.aei.ca (root@gamma.aei.ca [206.123.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA24253 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 12:46:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from malartre@aei.ca) Received: from aei.ca (kaput@aeiusrI-26.aei.ca [206.186.205.176]) by gamma.aei.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06753; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 15:46:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3597EE7D.E8AF1150@aei.ca> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 15:43:57 -0400 From: Malartre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: French docs (was: Hey Greg :-) I have finaly writed something on "How to ask a question") References: <35934C8F.562B7C4D@aei.ca> <19980629115947.H897@freebie.lemis.com> <359720B6.B9FD106C@aei.ca> <19980629144423.R897@freebie.lemis.com> <35972367.9335F03B@aei.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It's done. I have improved the english version and translate it in french. And this give some general improvement. http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/how-to-ask-en.html http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/how-to-ask-fr.html I have some tips for people who want to translate something from english to french or from french to english: Use altavista's SYSTRAN. It's not perfect but it's really usefull. I have first translate the english version with it and it was readable. After that, I have translated manualy with a good old dictionary. Then, I use systran to re-translate my french version to english, and I found great error in both version. http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate? It work better french to english than english to french ;-) -- [Malartre] [malartre@aei.ca][ICQ#4224434][www.aei.ca/~malartre/][www.FreeBSD.ORG] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jun 29 16:32:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA03592 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:32:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from proxy.math.ITB.ac.id (proxy.math.ITB.ac.id [167.205.19.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA03510 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:32:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from moridis@students.math.ITB.ac.id) From: moridis@students.math.ITB.ac.id Received: from students.math.ITB.ac.id ([192.168.19.29]) by proxy.math.ITB.ac.id (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00293 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 15:32:40 +0700 (JAVT) (envelope-from moridis@students.math.ITB.ac.id) Received: (from moridis@localhost) by students.math.ITB.ac.id (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA08719; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 20:58:51 +0700 (JAVT) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 20:58:51 +0700 (JAVT) Message-Id: <199806271358.UAA08719@students.math.ITB.ac.id> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-URL: file://localhost/usr/share/doc/handbook/handbook.html X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2.7.1 Subject: file://localhost/usr/share/doc/handbook/handbook.html Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jun 30 02:12:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA08944 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 02:12:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tyree.iii.co.uk (tyree.iii.co.uk [195.89.149.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA08848 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 02:11:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@iii.co.uk) From: nik@iii.co.uk Received: from carrig.strand.iii.co.uk (carrig.strand.iii.co.uk [192.168.7.25]) by tyree.iii.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27085 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:11:24 +0100 (BST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by carrig.strand.iii.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) id KAA07110; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:11:00 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <19980630101100.10220@iii.co.uk> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:11:00 +0100 To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook's DocBook conversion -- state of play References: <19980618101557.29447@iii.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: <19980618101557.29447@iii.co.uk>; from nik@iii.co.uk on Thu, Jun 18, 1998 at 10:15:57AM +0100 Organization: interactive investor Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jun 18, 1998 at 10:15:57AM +0100, nik@iii.co.uk wrote: > I think I'm probably about halfway there (maybe 45% or so). A lot of the > markup still needs changing (which is taking the majority of the time at > the moment), a driver file for the DSSSL stylesheet needs creating (to > specify local conventions and options) and the entity definitions need > rolling back into the source. Also, the thing needs splitting back > into separate files. But it's getting there. Since that message I've been doing some more markup changes. Perhaps 60% of the way there now. In addition, I've extended the DocBook DTD to add some new markup, and created the first cut of the DSSSL driver file that extends Norm Walsh's stylesheets. The results of the most recent HTML conversion are at It's starting to come together. Internal links are named a little oddly (there's a definite tendency to include the string "the section called" before each link, which I need to remove) and entity definitions have not been rolled back in (which is why no e-mail addresses appear properly). N -- Work: nik@iii.co.uk | FreeBSD + Perl + Apache Rest: nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk | Remind me again why we need Play: nik@freebsd.org | Microsoft? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jun 30 05:29:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA10931 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 05:29:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA10899 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 05:29:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dag-erli@ifi.uio.no) Received: from hrotti.ifi.uio.no (2602@hrotti.ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.15]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with ESMTP id OAA11303; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:29:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from dag-erli@localhost) by hrotti.ifi.uio.no ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:29:25 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: nik@iii.co.uk Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook's DocBook conversion -- state of play References: <19980618101557.29447@iii.co.uk> <19980630101100.10220@iii.co.uk> Organization: University of Oslo, Department of Informatics X-url: http://www.stud.ifi.uio.no/~dag-erli/ X-other-addresses: 'finger dag-erli@ifi.uio.no' for a list X-disclaimer-1: The views expressed in this article are mine alone, and do X-disclaimer-2: not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or X-disclaimer-3: company with which am or have been affiliated. X-Stop-Spam: http://www.cauce.org/ From: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling Coidan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= ) Date: 30 Jun 1998 14:29:23 +0200 In-Reply-To: nik@iii.co.uk's message of "Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:11:00 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 14 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org nik@iii.co.uk writes: > The results of the most recent HTML conversion are at > > Hmm... Have you noticed that the HTML code it produces looks very broken? It seems that a newline is inserted before every single > in the code except the one at the end of the DTD. DES -- One two, one two, one two. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jun 30 06:01:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA15176 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 06:01:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tyree.iii.co.uk (tyree.iii.co.uk [195.89.149.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA15170 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 06:01:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@iii.co.uk) From: nik@iii.co.uk Received: from carrig.strand.iii.co.uk (carrig.strand.iii.co.uk [192.168.7.25]) by tyree.iii.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA04307; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:01:22 +0100 (BST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by carrig.strand.iii.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) id OAA07621; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:01:21 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <19980630140120.11319@iii.co.uk> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 14:01:20 +0100 To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Coidan_Sm=F8rgrav?= Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook's DocBook conversion -- state of play References: <19980618101557.29447@iii.co.uk> <19980630101100.10220@iii.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=3Cxzpww9z13a4=2Efsf=40hrotti=2Eifi=2Euio=2Eno=3E=3B_from?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_Dag-Erling_Coidan_Sm=F8rgrav__on_Tue=2C_Jun_30=2C_1998_a?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?t_02=3A29=3A23PM_+0200?= Organization: interactive investor Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jun 30, 1998 at 02:29:23PM +0200, Dag-Erling Coidan Smørgrav wrote: > nik@iii.co.uk writes: > > The results of the most recent HTML conversion are at > > > > > > Hmm... > > Have you noticed that the HTML code it produces looks very broken? It > seems that a newline is inserted before every single > in the code > except the one at the end of the DTD. It looks broken, but SGML doesn't really care. I haven't actually run it through a validator to check that it complies with the listed DTD yet. I suppose there could be a second pass after the HTML is produced to fix this for aesthetic reasons. N -- Work: nik@iii.co.uk | FreeBSD + Perl + Apache Rest: nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk | Remind me again why we need Play: nik@freebsd.org | Microsoft? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jun 30 22:49:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA29849 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:49:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jkoshy@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA29822; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:49:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:49:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Koshy Message-Id: <199807010549.WAA29822@hub.freebsd.org> To: seggers@semyam.dinoco.de, jkoshy, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/7109 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: correction to atrun(8) grammar State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: jkoshy State-Changed-When: Tue Jun 30 22:18:33 PDT 1998 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in rev 1.5 of "atrun.8", thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 1 06:34:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA16533 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 06:34:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from photon.soltec.net (photon.soltec.net [206.148.208.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA16495 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 06:34:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@illininet.com) Received: from office.illininet.com (ppp13.htn.soltec.net [206.148.180.13]) by photon.soltec.net (8.8.8/8.8.9) with SMTP id IAA16738 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:33:46 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scott" To: Subject: WWWCount Home page Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:32:34 -0500 Message-ID: <01bda4f4$b49ceac0$022593df@office.illininet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Good Morning, I thought you would like to know that the page you have given for the home page of wwwcount is not valid! Could you please provide the correct page, or give us some access to the documentation for the port. Thank you. Scott Oyer IlliniNet Web Access To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 1 07:01:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA20033 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:01:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA20021 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:01:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id HAA28010; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.hq.tis.com (relay.hq.tis.com [192.94.214.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA19927 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:00:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@trojanhorse.watson.org) Received: by relay.hq.tis.com; id JAA24993; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:55:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unknown(10.33.40.29) by relay.hq.tis.com via smap (4.0a) id xma024938; Wed, 1 Jul 98 09:55:19 -0400 Received: (from robert@localhost) by trojanhorse.watson.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA03312; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 00:20:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert) Message-Id: <199807010420.AAA03312@trojanhorse.watson.org> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 00:20:55 -0400 (EDT) From: robert@cyrus.watson.org Reply-To: robert+freebsd@cyrus.watson.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/7138: man 9 malloc example inconsistent with prototype Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 7138 >Category: docs >Synopsis: man 9 malloc has incorrect example for MALLOC macro >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Jul 1 07:00:01 PDT 1998 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Robert Watson >Organization: >Release: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386 >Environment: FreeBSD current >Description: man 9 MALLOC reports the following: ... MALLOC(space, cast, unsigned long size, struct malloc_type *type, int flags) ... But later in sample code: MALLOC(buf, sizeof *buf, struct foo_buf *, M_FOOBUF, M_NOWAIT); The sizeof *bug and struct foo_buf arguments are reversed. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: replace with: MALLOC(bug, struct foo_buf *, sizeof *buf, M_FOOBAR, M_NOWAIT); Thanks.. >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 1 20:08:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA17675 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:08:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from 2001ad.com ([204.132.195.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA17667 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:08:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mfischer@2001ad.com) Received: from 2001ad.com [205.170.18.176] by 2001ad.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.02c) id AB4746019E; Wed, 01 Jul 1998 21:15:19 MST Message-ID: <359AF996.8B1113B3@2001ad.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 21:08:06 -0600 From: Fischer Reply-To: mfischer@2001ad.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: installation boot disk image Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I obtained the "installation boot dist image" from your server. It was supposed to be 1.4M, or 1457664 bytes. Instead, it is 1474560 bytes so it won't fit on the boot disk. What do I do about this? Thanks, Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 1 22:26:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA04456 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 22:26:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jkoshy@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA04444; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 22:26:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkoshy) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 22:26:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Koshy Message-Id: <199807020526.WAA04444@hub.freebsd.org> To: mfischer@2001ad.com Subject: Re: installation boot disk image Cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, > I obtained the "installation boot dist image" from your server. It was > supposed to be 1.4M, or 1457664 bytes. Instead, it is 1474560 bytes so > it won't fit on the boot disk. What do I do about this? This seems to be a common question so I'm thinking of submitting the following Q. to the FAQ. Could the -doc list amd FAQ maintainer pl. review? If OK, I'll commit it in a day or two. Koshy (nemesis) $ lcvs diff install.sgml Index: install.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/FAQ/install.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -u -r1.3 install.sgml --- install.sgml 1998/06/27 01:13:49 1.3 +++ install.sgml 1998/07/02 05:24:03 @@ -32,6 +32,32 @@ name="Handbook entry on installing FreeBSD."> + Help! The boot floppy image will not fit on a single floppy! + +

At 512 bytes per sector, 18 sectors/track, 80 tracks per side, and + 2 sides, a 3.5 inch (1.44MB) floppy can accomodate exactly 1474560 + bytes of data. The boot image is also exactly 1474560 bytes in size. +

Common mistakes when preparing the boot floppy are: + + Not downloading the floppy image in binary mode when + using FTP. +

Some FTP clients default their transfer mode to ascii + and attempt to change any end-of-line characters received to match + the conventions used by the client's system. + This will almost invariably corrupt the boot image. Check the + size of the downloaded boot image: if it is not exactly + that on the server, then the download process is suspect. + Using the DOS copy command to transfer the boot + image to floppy. +

copy will not work as the boot image has been + created to be booted into directly. You have to transfer it to the + floppy ``raw'', by using one of the low-level tools (like + fdimage or rawrite) described in the + . + + + Where are the instructions for installing FreeBSD?

Installation instructions can be found in the To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 1 22:39:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA06278 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 22:39:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA06264; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 22:39:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@FreeBSD.org) From: Poul-Henning Kamp Received: (from phk@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id WAA22931; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 22:37:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 22:37:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199807020537.WAA22931@freefall.freebsd.org> To: robert+freebsd@cyrus.watson.org, phk@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/7138 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: man 9 malloc has incorrect example for MALLOC macro State-Changed-From-To: open-closed State-Changed-By: phk State-Changed-When: Wed Jul 1 22:37:40 PDT 1998 State-Changed-Why: fixed in -current, thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 1 23:31:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA12711 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 23:31:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA12704; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 23:31:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.8.5/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA19613; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 23:31:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 23:31:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Joseph Koshy cc: mfischer@2001ad.com, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installation boot disk image In-Reply-To: <199807020526.WAA04444@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 1 Jul 1998, Joseph Koshy wrote: > > I obtained the "installation boot dist image" from your server. It was > > supposed to be 1.4M, or 1457664 bytes. Instead, it is 1474560 bytes so > > it won't fit on the boot disk. What do I do about this? > > This seems to be a common question so I'm thinking of submitting the > following Q. to the FAQ. Could the -doc list amd FAQ maintainer pl. review? > If OK, I'll commit it in a day or two. Looks good to me. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jul 2 01:51:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA09430 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 01:51:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tyree.iii.co.uk (tyree.iii.co.uk [195.89.149.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA09413 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 01:51:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@iii.co.uk) From: nik@iii.co.uk Received: from carrig.strand.iii.co.uk (carrig.strand.iii.co.uk [192.168.7.25]) by tyree.iii.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20908; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:51:43 +0100 (BST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by carrig.strand.iii.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) id JAA10395; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:51:36 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <19980702095135.22477@iii.co.uk> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:51:36 +0100 To: Chuck Robey Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Using stylesheets with SGML (was Re: cvs commit: doc/sgml freebsd.dsl) References: <199806300852.BAA13364@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Chuck Robey on Wed, Jul 01, 1998 at 06:03:53PM -0400 Organization: interactive investor Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chuck, I'm cc'ing this to -doc, mostly because I want to make sure that discussions like this get archived. There are also bits and pieces I'm not 100% sure about, and a wider audience for review can't hurt. On Wed, Jul 01, 1998 at 06:03:53PM -0400, Chuck Robey wrote: > Nik, can I ask you a question about this? I'm a longtime user of groff, > along with the mm macros and tbl (and very occaisonally some of the > other tools) but I've put off switching to anything sgml based for one > simple reason: lack of control over precise font point size and font > name. Everything else my heart desires is already available, but then I > have to follow someone else's choices on font characteristics, and with > my professors often _requiring_ certain fonts and sizes, this eliminates > snything sgml based from working for me. There's nothing stopping you. The SGML approach is (generally) to markup for content, and put all the logic for converting that content to another format (RTF, HTML, whatever) in to a stylesheets. Stylesheets are written in DSSSL (Document Style Semantics and Specification Language) a very Lisp-ish sort of language. Suppose you want things marked up as paragraphs (with the 'para' element) to be rendered in a 12 point font. However, paragraphs inside a legalnotice should be marked up in 8 point text. In your SGML document you might write something like This is the first paragraph. This is a para in a legal notice. Note that there's no specification of fonts, sizes, weights, justification (quadding) or anything else. Then, in your DSSSL stylesheet you would include the following fragment, ; By default, paragraphs should be in 12 point type (element para (make-paragraph font-size: 12pt)) ; However, paragraphs that are immediately inside a legalnotice ; should be rendered in 8 point type (element legalnotice para (make-paragraph font-size: 8pt)) This is sufficient to specify that paragraphs should then be rendered in a 12 point font by the 'backend converter', unless they're inside 'legalnotice', in which case 8 point should be used. One of the backend converters used by the Doc. Project is Jade, which can read SGML source, a DSSSL stylesheet, and then produce RTF format text (it can also do Word .doc format and DTD to DTD transformations, which is how we convert text written in the DocBook DTD to the HTML DTD). If you have two different stylesheets for the same DTD then you can use them to produce two different looking copies of the same text. We're fortunate that Norm Walsh's Modular DocBook stylesheets are relatively easy to customise. If they weren't, I (or someone else) would probably be writing a FreeBSD DocBook stylesheet. As it is we can use the published 'knobs' plus a few hacks (I hope) to get what we need. The alternative would be to write our own DSSSL stylesheet, something that I'm not yet capable of doing. You say "professors" earlier on, so I assume this is for research work of some kind. You may not find the DocBook DTD to be too useful, as it's heavily orientated towards producing technical manuals. I imagine (but can't confirm) that DTDs exist for theses and other acadamic documents. After finding an appropriate DTD you would then need to find (or write) a DSSSL stylesheet for that DTD, so that something like Jade can then convert it into formatted text. > Is there any likelihood that such options could ever be put into the > FreeBSD stylesheet, even as an addendum (that could be specifically > eliminated from anything put into FreeBSD documentation)? It's a possiblity. I need to explore Norm Walsh's stylesheet some more, and work out what can and can't be done easily. I don't know how simple it is (for example) to tweak the formatting settings for one element without affecting any others). I expect to be able to get back to Norm with a wishlist sometime in the next few weeks. > I don't want to force you guys to have to put up with idiots submitting > docs in 5 point fonts, That won't happen. DocBook doesn't include any mechanism to force a particular font size (or colour, or weight, or font name. . .) that's all handled by the stylesheet. In fact, I intend to experiment (a little later down the line) with several different stylesheets for the HTML output, producing HTML targetted at different browsers. One stylesheet might markup filenames in a monospace font, another one might mark them up in the regular font but in purple (I use that just as an example). Some handy references for SGML and DSSSL are Paul Prescod's DSSSL tutorial James Clark's list of DSSSL related links Daniel Germa'n's introduction to DSSSL SGML / XML home page, a comprehensive listing of related resources N -- Work: nik@iii.co.uk | FreeBSD + Perl + Apache Rest: nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk | Remind me again why we need Play: nik@freebsd.org | Microsoft? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jul 2 17:02:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA02108 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 17:02:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp.interlog.com (root@smtp.interlog.com [207.34.202.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA02094 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 17:02:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from suntzu@interlog.com) Received: from interlog.com (dhcp40-197.office.interlog.com [209.20.40.197]) by smtp.interlog.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA20553 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 20:02:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <359C1F59.46F95E57@interlog.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 20:01:29 -0400 From: station9 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jul 2 18:43:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA15655 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 18:43:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA15635 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 18:43:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@glue.umd.edu) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA15096; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 20:41:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 20:41:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@localhost To: nik@iii.co.uk cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Using stylesheets with SGML (was Re: cvs commit: doc/sgml freebsd.dsl) In-Reply-To: <19980702095135.22477@iii.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 2 Jul 1998 nik@iii.co.uk wrote: > Chuck, > > I'm cc'ing this to -doc, mostly because I want to make sure that discussions > like this get archived. There are also bits and pieces I'm not 100% sure > about, and a wider audience for review can't hurt. > > On Wed, Jul 01, 1998 at 06:03:53PM -0400, Chuck Robey wrote: > > Nik, can I ask you a question about this? I'm a longtime user of groff, > > along with the mm macros and tbl (and very occaisonally some of the > > other tools) but I've put off switching to anything sgml based for one > > simple reason: lack of control over precise font point size and font > > name. Everything else my heart desires is already available, but then I > > have to follow someone else's choices on font characteristics, and with > > my professors often _requiring_ certain fonts and sizes, this eliminates > > snything sgml based from working for me. > > There's nothing stopping you. The SGML approach is (generally) to markup > for content, and put all the logic for converting that content to another > format (RTF, HTML, whatever) in to a stylesheets. > > Stylesheets are written in DSSSL (Document Style Semantics and > Specification Language) a very Lisp-ish sort of language. I realize that I could change the stylesheet, but the goal was to be able to do it from the single document source sgml file, and not to have to include a modified stylesheet each time (so that it is like my present groff documents). I wanted to be able to include some kind of sgml markup in the base doc, that would send a parameter to the stylesheet. I'm not sure it's possible to go in that direction with the information, but it would make things extremely more workable. This would be something I would want to change on a doc by doc basis, and not just being able to have one personally-modified local stylesheet. I'm trying to get the functionality I presently have in groff (or that you get via LaTeX). > > Suppose you want things marked up as paragraphs (with the 'para' element) > to be rendered in a 12 point font. However, paragraphs inside a legalnotice > should be marked up in 8 point text. > > In your SGML document you might write something like > > This is the first paragraph. > > > This is a para in a legal notice. > > > Note that there's no specification of fonts, sizes, weights, justification > (quadding) or anything else. > > Then, in your DSSSL stylesheet you would include the following fragment, > > ; By default, paragraphs should be in 12 point type > (element para (make-paragraph font-size: 12pt)) > > ; However, paragraphs that are immediately inside a legalnotice > ; should be rendered in 8 point type > (element legalnotice para (make-paragraph font-size: 8pt)) > > This is sufficient to specify that paragraphs should then be rendered > in a 12 point font by the 'backend converter', unless they're inside > 'legalnotice', in which case 8 point should be used. One of the backend > converters used by the Doc. Project is Jade, which can read SGML source, > a DSSSL stylesheet, and then produce RTF format text (it can also do > Word .doc format and DTD to DTD transformations, which is how we convert > text written in the DocBook DTD to the HTML DTD). > > If you have two different stylesheets for the same DTD then you can use > them to produce two different looking copies of the same text. > > We're fortunate that Norm Walsh's Modular DocBook stylesheets are > relatively easy to customise. If they weren't, I (or someone else) would > probably be writing a FreeBSD DocBook stylesheet. As it is we can use the > published 'knobs' plus a few hacks (I hope) to get what we need. The > alternative would be to write our own DSSSL stylesheet, something that I'm > not yet capable of doing. > > You say "professors" earlier on, so I assume this is for research work > of some kind. > > You may not find the DocBook DTD to be too useful, as it's heavily > orientated towards producing technical manuals. I imagine (but can't > confirm) that DTDs exist for theses and other acadamic documents. After > finding an appropriate DTD you would then need to find (or write) a > DSSSL stylesheet for that DTD, so that something like Jade can then > convert it into formatted text. > > > Is there any likelihood that such options could ever be put into the > > FreeBSD stylesheet, even as an addendum (that could be specifically > > eliminated from anything put into FreeBSD documentation)? > > It's a possiblity. I need to explore Norm Walsh's stylesheet some more, > and work out what can and can't be done easily. I don't know how simple > it is (for example) to tweak the formatting settings for one element > without affecting any others). I expect to be able to get back to Norm > with a wishlist sometime in the next few weeks. > > > I don't want to force you guys to have to put up with idiots submitting > > docs in 5 point fonts, > > That won't happen. DocBook doesn't include any mechanism to force a > particular font size (or colour, or weight, or font name. . .) that's all > handled by the stylesheet. > > In fact, I intend to experiment (a little later down the line) with > several different stylesheets for the HTML output, producing HTML targetted > at different browsers. One stylesheet might markup filenames in a monospace > font, another one might mark them up in the regular font but in purple > (I use that just as an example). > > Some handy references for SGML and DSSSL are > > > Paul Prescod's DSSSL tutorial > > > James Clark's list of DSSSL related links > > > Daniel Germa'n's introduction to DSSSL > > > SGML / XML home page, a comprehensive listing of related resources > > N > -- > Work: nik@iii.co.uk | FreeBSD + Perl + Apache > Rest: nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk | Remind me again why we need > Play: nik@freebsd.org | Microsoft? > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (NetBSD). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 3 02:39:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA22909 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 02:39:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from samson.dc.luth.se (root@samson.dc.luth.se [130.240.112.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA22877 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 02:39:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bamse@dc.luth.se) Received: from redkit (redkit.dc.luth.se [130.240.12.196]) by samson.dc.luth.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA11222 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 11:39:15 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980703113612.0090aa20@mail.dc.luth.se> X-Sender: bamse@mail.dc.luth.se X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 03 Jul 1998 11:36:12 +0200 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: Kubilay =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=F6sendi?= Subject: hello Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id CAA22890 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I would like to ask you if you would like to have a Turkish Documentation Project. If it is okey so I can help you to translate the pages in to turkish. Kubilay Dösendi System Development and Software Engineering Luleå University of Technology SWEDEN kubdos-6@student.luth.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 3 11:15:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01697 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 11:15:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from imo30.mx.aol.com (imo30.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01692 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 11:15:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ChronoRap@aol.com) From: ChronoRap@aol.com Received: from ChronoRap@aol.com by imo30.mx.aol.com (IMOv14_b1.1) id HVIRa26167 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 14:14:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <34841299.359d1f79@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 14:14:16 EDT To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: freebsd help Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org first off lemme say i think freebsd will be a great os when i get it installed and thank you for everything but i am having a big problem. First off i am trying to install freebsd with my windows os and i don't know how to partition it and go thought the creating slice and all that i messed up my c drive and know it only has 56 megs left and I also have a f drive now which i can' t access and when i try to install it it says something like no /usr found blah blha pllllease help me To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 3 11:41:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04342 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 11:41:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04335 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 11:41:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id LAA01060; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 11:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bamboo.verinet.com (root@bamboo.verinet.com [204.144.246.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04327 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 11:40:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from allenc@verinet.com) Received: from struct. 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(8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27591; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 12:40:53 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from allenc) Message-Id: <199807031840.MAA27591@struct.> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 12:40:53 -0600 (MDT) From: allenc@verinet.com Reply-To: allenc@verinet.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/7155: document pkg_info options Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 7155 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Undocumented pkg_info(1) options >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Jul 3 11:40:00 PDT 1998 >Last-Modified: >Originator: Allen Campbell >Organization: none >Release: FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386 >Environment: >Description: A few options for pkg_info(1) are not documented. 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