From owner-freebsd-hubs Sun Dec 20 06:14:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA14065 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 06:14:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from quasar.uvt.ro (quasar.uvt.ro [193.226.13.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA14060 for ; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 06:14:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ardelean@quasar.uvt.ro) Received: from localhost (ardelean@localhost) by quasar.uvt.ro (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA21239 for ; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 16:14:56 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ardelean@quasar.uvt.ro) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 16:14:56 +0200 (EET) From: Gheorghe Ardelean To: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ftp mirror site Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, What should be mirrored from the master site in order to became an ftp mirror site? Regards, Gheorghe ARDELEAN West Univ. Of Timisoara Dept. of Theoretical and Computational Physics V. Parvan No.4, Ro-1900, Timisoara, ROMANIA Tel: +40-(0)56-194068 Ext. 203, 201, 108 | Fax: +40-(0)56-190333 Email: ardelean@quasar.uvt.ro P.S. Marry Xmas and Happy New Year! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Mon Dec 21 00:37:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA22884 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 00:37:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA22879 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 00:37:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA80559; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 00:37:33 -0800 (PST) To: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG cc: freebsd-maintainers@wcarchive.cdrom.com, dg@root.com Subject: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 00:37:33 -0800 Message-ID: <80555.914229453@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'll try to make this brief. The situation as we currently see it today is this: 2.2.7-RELEASE alpha packages-3.0 2.2.8-RELEASE development packages-current 2.2.8-STABLE distfiles packages-current-aout 3.0-CURRENT docs packages-stable 3.0-RELEASE incoming ports CERT index.html ports-3.0 CTM ls-lR.gz ports-current CVSup mailing-lists ports-stable FreeBSD-CVS newsletter tools FreeBSD-current packages updates FreeBSD-stable packages-2.2.7 README packages-2.2.8 Finding this increasingly rather cluttered, I'd like to propose that we move to something more like this: README.TXT index.html releases/ README.TXT index.html 2.2.7-RELEASE/ 2.2.8-RELEASE/ 3.0-RELEASE/ README.TXT index.html axp/ x86/ 2.2.8-STABLE -> stable 3.0-CURRENT -> current current/ README.TXT index.html ports packages src stable/ README.TXT index.html ports packages src doc/ index.html INSTALL.TXT README.TXT HARDWARE.TXT UPGRADE.TXT etc... And that would be it for the top-level directory structure. The only part of this I have any reservations about myself is splitting 3.0-RELEASE into architecture subdirs, but I really don't see how we can get around that step without yuck-ifying our hierarchy even more as FreeBSD gets ported to other architectures (hey, they said it would never happen at all and now we run on the AXP - think towards the future! :). The index.html files I can also live without, but again, I'm think of how many people may be indexing the site these days and how they'll want to view it in the future. Comments? - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Mon Dec 21 01:01:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA24954 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 01:01:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freesbee.t.dk (freesbee.t.dk [193.163.159.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA24942 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 01:00:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jesper@freesbee.t.dk) Received: (qmail 7828 invoked by uid 1001); 21 Dec 1998 09:00:49 -0000 Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 10:00:49 +0100 From: Jesper Skriver To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-maintainers@wcarchive.cdrom.com Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD Message-ID: <19981221100049.F6936@skriver.dk> References: <80555.914229453@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <80555.914229453@zippy.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Mon, Dec 21, 1998 at 12:37:33AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 21, 1998 at 12:37:33AM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > Finding this increasingly rather cluttered, I'd like to propose > that we move to something more like this: > > README.TXT > index.html > releases/ > README.TXT > index.html > 2.2.7-RELEASE/ > 2.2.8-RELEASE/ > 3.0-RELEASE/ > README.TXT > index.html > axp/ > x86/ > 2.2.8-STABLE -> stable > 3.0-CURRENT -> current > current/ > README.TXT > index.html > ports > packages > src > stable/ > README.TXT > index.html > ports > packages > src > > doc/ > index.html > INSTALL.TXT > README.TXT > HARDWARE.TXT > UPGRADE.TXT > etc... > > And that would be it for the top-level directory structure. The only > part of this I have any reservations about myself is splitting > 3.0-RELEASE into architecture subdirs, but I really don't see how we > can get around that step without yuck-ifying our hierarchy even more > as FreeBSD gets ported to other architectures (hey, they said it would > never happen at all and now we run on the AXP - think towards the > future! :). > > The index.html files I can also live without, but again, I'm think of > how many people may be indexing the site these days and how they'll > want to view it in the future. > > Comments? This would break my mirror script, I had to make a wrapper that takes each sub directory if /pub/FreeBSD/ seperatly, or else it will run out of memory, regardsless of putting the user in a "unlimited" class, that reads: unlimited:\ :cputime=infinity:\ :datasize-cur=infinity:\ :stacksize-cur=infinity:\ :memorylocked-cur=infinity:\ :memoryuse-cur=infinity:\ :filesize=infinity:\ :coredumpsize=infinity:\ :maxproc-cur=infinity:\ :openfiles-cur=infinity:\ :priority=0:\ :requirehome@:\ :umask=022:\ :tc=auth-defaults: This is on FreeBSD lillebror.skriver.dk 2.2.8-STABLE FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE #0: Tue Dec 1 15:56:27 CET 1998 root@lillebror.skriver.dk: /usr/src/sys/compile/LILLEBROR i386 Any ideas of the reason ?? Naturally I can modify this script ... and it shall not be a show stopper ... /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver (JS4261-RIPE), Network manager Tele Danmark DataNet, IP section (AS3292) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Mon Dec 21 01:03:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA25311 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 01:03:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA25306 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 01:03:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA80887; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 01:03:40 -0800 (PST) To: Jesper Skriver cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-maintainers@wcarchive.cdrom.com Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 21 Dec 1998 10:00:49 +0100." <19981221100049.F6936@skriver.dk> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 01:03:40 -0800 Message-ID: <80883.914231020@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > This would break my mirror script, I had to make a wrapper that takes > each sub directory if /pub/FreeBSD/ seperatly, or else it will run out It won't break mirror(1) scripts, it will just require that new "small pieces" be derived. There's no reason you can't grab individual subdirs. The perl based mirror is, in any case, a huge memory hog and I don't see why people don't just use spegla instead (see /usr/ports/net/spegla and the relevant directions) since it's written in C and is much less hungry. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Mon Dec 21 03:47:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA10998 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 03:47:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from passion.icparc.ic.ac.uk (passion.icparc.ic.ac.uk [155.198.179.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA10990 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 03:46:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lmjm@icparc.ic.ac.uk) Received: from ham.icparc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.177.28] helo=icparc.ic.ac.uk) by passion.icparc.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #1) id 0zs3n4-0005Rc-00; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:46:22 +0000 Message-ID: <367E350E.86BAE242@icparc.ic.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:46:22 +0000 From: Lee McLoughlin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jesper Skriver CC: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-maintainers@wcarchive.cdrom.com Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD References: <80555.914229453@zippy.cdrom.com> <19981221100049.F6936@skriver.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jesper Skriver wrote: > This would break my mirror script, I had to make a wrapper that takes > each sub directory if /pub/FreeBSD/ seperatly, or else it will run out > of memory, regardsless of putting the user in a "unlimited" class, that > reads: > > unlimited:\ > :cputime=infinity:\ > :datasize-cur=infinity:\ > :stacksize-cur=infinity:\ > :memorylocked-cur=infinity:\ > :memoryuse-cur=infinity:\ > :filesize=infinity:\ > :coredumpsize=infinity:\ > :maxproc-cur=infinity:\ > :openfiles-cur=infinity:\ > :priority=0:\ > :requirehome@:\ > :umask=022:\ > :tc=auth-defaults: Mirror isn't memory hungry, perl is! Spent ages trying to figure out where all the memory goes! Anyhow if you have mirror-2.9 then mirror with algorith=1 and the problem goes away. Lee -- Lee McLoughlin. Phone: +44 171 594 8388 IC-Parc, Imperial College, Fax: +44 171 594 8432 South Kensington, London. SW7 2AZ. UK. Email: lmjm@icparc.ic.ac.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Mon Dec 21 04:15:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA15485 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 04:15:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from martini.ics.es.osaka-u.ac.jp (martini.ics.es.osaka-u.ac.jp [133.1.12.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA15477 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 04:15:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matusita@ics.es.osaka-u.ac.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by martini.ics.es.osaka-u.ac.jp (8.9.1/3.6W/ICS-2.2.2v7-44BSD) with ESMTP id VAA18062; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 21:15:32 +0900 (JST) Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-maintainers@wcarchive.cdrom.com, dg@root.com In-Reply-To: <80555.914229453@zippy.cdrom.com> References: <80555.914229453@zippy.cdrom.com> X-Face: '*aj"d@ijeQ:/X}]oM5c5Uz{ZZZk90WPt>a^y4$cGQp8:!H\W=hSM;PuNiidkc]/%,;6VGu e+`&APmz|P;F~OL/QK%;P2vU>\j4X.8@i%j6[%DTs_3J,Fff0)*oHg$A.cDm&jc#pD24WK@{,"Ef!0 P\):.2}8jo-BiZ?X&t$V User-Agent: Mew/1.94b2 XEmacs/21.0 (Poitou60) X-SKK-Version: 10.47.4.2 X-FaceAnim: (-O_O-)(O_O- )(_O- )(O- )(- -)( -O)( -O_)( -O_O)(-O_O-) X-Fingerprint: 0C AC 93 FC E3 9D 9E 5B 3D B8 AC 5C 4A 79 D8 A6 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Dispatcher: imput version 981124(IM104) Lines: 41 From: Makoto MATSUSHITA (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJF4kRCQ3JD8kXiQzJEgbKEI=?=) To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 21:15:30 +0900 Message-Id: <19981221211530C.matusita@ics.es.osaka-u.ac.jp> Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org jkh> Finding this increasingly rather cluttered, I'd like to propose jkh> that we move to something more like this: How about 'releases', 'current', and 'stable' are in the SAME directory ? README.TXT index.html releases/ README.TXT index.html 2.2.7-RELEASE/ 2.2.8-RELEASE/ 3.0-RELEASE/ README.TXT index.html axp/ x86/ 2.2.8-STABLE -> ../stable 3.0-CURRENT -> ../current current/ README.TXT index.html ports packages src stable/ README.TXT index.html ports packages src doc/ ... It may be helpful for mirroring guys; "Hi Jordan, I do want to get only *released* version of FreeBSD. Is there any easy and version independant way to do ?" -- - Makoto `MAR' MATSUSHITA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Mon Dec 21 04:35:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA17896 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 04:35:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dimoni.upc.es (dimoni.upc.es [147.83.2.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA17853 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 04:34:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msagre@ac.upc.es) Received: from sert.ac.upc.es (sert.ac.upc.es [147.83.33.7]) by dimoni.upc.es (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA27582; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 13:30:11 +0100 (MET) Received: (from smap@localhost) by sert.ac.upc.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA22981; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 13:36:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from pcsagre.ac.upc.es(147.83.34.24) by sert.ac.upc.es via smap (V2.0) id xma022973; Mon, 21 Dec 98 13:36:14 +0100 Message-ID: <367E3F3F.5EC522DD@ac.upc.es> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 12:29:51 +0000 From: Miguel Angel Sagreras X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jesper Skriver CC: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD References: <80555.914229453@zippy.cdrom.com> <19981221100049.F6936@skriver.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jesper Skriver wrote: > > > This would break my mirror script, I had to make a wrapper that takes > each sub directory if /pub/FreeBSD/ seperatly, or else it will run out > of memory, regardsless of putting the user in a "unlimited" class, that > reads: > > unlimited:\ > :cputime=infinity:\ > :datasize-cur=infinity:\ > :stacksize-cur=infinity:\ > :memorylocked-cur=infinity:\ > :memoryuse-cur=infinity:\ > :filesize=infinity:\ > :coredumpsize=infinity:\ > :maxproc-cur=infinity:\ > :openfiles-cur=infinity:\ > :priority=0:\ > :requirehome@:\ > :umask=022:\ > :tc=auth-defaults: > > This is on > FreeBSD lillebror.skriver.dk 2.2.8-STABLE FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE #0: > Tue Dec 1 15:56:27 CET 1998 root@lillebror.skriver.dk: > /usr/src/sys/compile/LILLEBROR i386 > > Any ideas of the reason ?? Have you try -F option in mirror ? > > > Naturally I can modify this script ... and it shall not be a show > stopper ... > > /Jesper > > -- > Jesper Skriver (JS4261-RIPE), Network manager > Tele Danmark DataNet, IP section (AS3292) > > One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, > One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message -- Miguel Angel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Mon Dec 21 04:42:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA18903 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 04:42:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zed.ludd.luth.se (zed.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA18896 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 04:42:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pantzer@speedy.ludd.luth.se) Received: from speedy.ludd.luth.se (speedy.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.164]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13828; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 13:42:11 +0100 Message-Id: <199812211242.NAA13828@zed.ludd.luth.se> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Jesper Skriver , hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-maintainers@wcarchive.cdrom.com, pantzer@zed.ludd.luth.se Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message from "Jordan K. Hubbard" of "Mon, 21 Dec 1998 01:03:40 PST." <80883.914231020@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 13:42:11 +0100 From: Mattias Pantzare Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id EAA18898 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > The perl based mirror is, in any case, a huge memory hog and I don't > see why people don't just use spegla instead (see > /usr/ports/net/spegla and the relevant directions) since it's written > in C and is much less hungry. spegla has no problems with the FreeBSD mirror on a Sun SPARCstation 2 with 16Mb RAM, running Solaris 2.6. Yes, it is nice on memory... :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Mon Dec 21 08:04:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10912 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 08:04:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA10907 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 08:04:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA83378; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 08:04:30 -0800 (PST) To: Lee McLoughlin cc: Jesper Skriver , hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-maintainers@wcarchive.cdrom.com Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:46:22 GMT." <367E350E.86BAE242@icparc.ic.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 08:04:29 -0800 Message-ID: <83375.914256269@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Anyhow if you have mirror-2.9 then mirror with algorith=1 and the > problem goes away. Excellent, I stand most happily corrected. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Mon Dec 21 08:05:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA11065 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 08:05:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA11054 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 08:05:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA83405; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 08:05:35 -0800 (PST) To: Makoto MATSUSHITA (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJF4kRCQ3JD8kXiQzJEgbKEI=?=) cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-maintainers@wcarchive.cdrom.com, dg@root.com Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 21 Dec 1998 21:15:30 +0900." <19981221211530C.matusita@ics.es.osaka-u.ac.jp> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 08:05:34 -0800 Message-ID: <83401.914256334@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > How about 'releases', 'current', and 'stable' are in the SAME directory ? Hmmmm. Yes, I think that does make more sense, thank you. Consider my proposal updated! - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Mon Dec 21 14:24:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03647 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 14:24:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from piglet.dstc.edu.au (piglet.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03640 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 14:24:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jason@piglet.dstc.edu.au) Received: (from jason@localhost) by piglet.dstc.edu.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA23498; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 08:24:38 +1000 (EST) From: jason andrade Message-Id: <199812212224.IAA23498@piglet.dstc.edu.au> Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 08:24:38 +1000 (EST) Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-maintainers@wcarchive.cdrom.com, dg@root.com In-Reply-To: <83401.914256334@zippy.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Dec 21, 98 08:05:34 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > How about 'releases', 'current', and 'stable' are in the SAME directory ? > > Hmmmm. Yes, I think that does make more sense, thank you. Consider > my proposal updated! when will this take place ? i need advance warning so that we don't try and download the whole freebsd archive (we're paying $140/Gigabyte in traffic charges for downloading international traffic). i need to manually recreate this structure before the changes are made, halt all mirrors until the changes take place and then run a mirror to verify all is well. also, are there any plans to provide rsync support, so i can simply use rsync, instead of the current combination of mirror and CVSup to keep the freebsd archive up to date ? i find CVSup a pain to use, compared to rsync :-/. i realise that rsync on cdrom.com isn't an option, but perhaps on a `secondary' very up to date site that can act as a primary rsync source ? cheers, -jason -- jason andrade dstc pty ltd jason@dstc.edu.au senior sysadmin level 7, GPS Building 78 i just wanna be phn +61-7-33654307 university of queensland bluemisty fax +61-7-33654311 queensland 4072 australia and barefooted To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Dec 22 01:50:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA23876 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 01:50:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA23871 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 01:50:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA86525; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 01:50:31 -0800 (PST) To: jason andrade cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-maintainers@wcarchive.cdrom.com, dg@root.com Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 22 Dec 1998 08:24:38 +1000." <199812212224.IAA23498@piglet.dstc.edu.au> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 01:50:27 -0800 Message-ID: <86521.914320227@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > when will this take place ? i need advance warning so that we don't try > and download the whole freebsd archive (we're paying $140/Gigabyte in I was thinking sometime this week, if I get no significant objections. > also, are there any plans to provide rsync support, so i can simply use As far as I know, there are no current plans to support this on ftp.cdrom.com. If a secondary mirror wishes to do so, as you say, then I'd certainly have no objections. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Dec 22 05:04:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA13904 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 05:04:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA13897 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 05:04:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca36-72.ix.netcom.com [207.92.172.72]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA12878; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 05:04:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.6.9) id FAA09558; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 05:04:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 05:04:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812221304.FAA09558@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com CC: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-maintainers@wcarchive.cdrom.com, dg@root.com In-reply-to: <80555.914229453@zippy.cdrom.com> (jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * Finding this increasingly rather cluttered, I'd like to propose * that we move to something more like this: I don't mind you moving the directories, but a "distfiles" link has to stay at the top. We've been shipping bsd.port.mk with "/pub/FreeBSD/distfiles/" hardcoded as the backup so we can't move it until we have at least one release with the new location. "packages-*" and "ports-*" are also in some places but these are mostly web pages so these shouldn't be hard to fix. Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Dec 22 05:06:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA14269 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 05:06:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA14114; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 05:06:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA90896; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 05:06:19 -0800 (PST) To: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-maintainers@wcarchive.cdrom.com, dg@root.com Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 22 Dec 1998 05:04:15 PST." <199812221304.FAA09558@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 05:06:19 -0800 Message-ID: <90893.914331979@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I don't mind you moving the directories, but a "distfiles" link has to > stay at the top. We've been shipping bsd.port.mk with > "/pub/FreeBSD/distfiles/" hardcoded as the backup so we can't move it > until we have at least one release with the new location. Ah right, yes. Duly noted! - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Dec 22 08:52:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15454 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 08:52:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA15443 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 08:52:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA12074; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 08:52:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA06762; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 08:52:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 08:52:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812221652.IAA06762@vashon.polstra.com> To: jason@dstc.edu.au Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD Newsgroups: polstra.freebsd.hubs In-Reply-To: <199812212224.IAA23498@piglet.dstc.edu.au> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <199812212224.IAA23498@piglet.dstc.edu.au>, jason andrade wrote: > i find CVSup a pain to use, compared to rsync :-/. As the author of CVSup, I'd welcome any suggestions on making it easier to use. Suggestions for improving the tutorial in the FreeBSD Handbook would also be appreciated. I have to admit I'm a bit baffled by your statement. Once the software is installed (admittedly a pain on non-FreeBSD systems), how is it really any different from rsync in day-to-day use? It's just a cron job running a command in each case, is it not? John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." -- H. L. Mencken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Dec 22 09:02:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17239 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:02:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pascal.ravel.ufrj.br (pascal.ravel.ufrj.br [146.164.32.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17229 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:02:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rodolfo@ravel.ufrj.br) Received: from euler.ravel.ufrj.br (euler.ravel.ufrj.br [10.10.0.81]) by pascal.ravel.ufrj.br (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id PAA24520; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 15:01:03 -0200 (EDT) From: Rodolfo Heitor Gevaerd de Faria Received: (from rodolfo@localhost) by euler.ravel.ufrj.br (8.9.0/8.9.0) id PAA06560; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 15:01:03 -0200 (EDT) Message-Id: <199812221701.PAA06560@euler.ravel.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <80555.914229453@zippy.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Dec 21, 98 00:37:33 am" To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 15:01:03 -0200 (EDT) Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-maintainers@wcarchive.cdrom.com, dg@root.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jordan K. Hubbard was saying that, ^ I'll try to make this brief. The situation as we currently see it ^ today is this: ^ ^ 2.2.7-RELEASE alpha packages-3.0 ^ 2.2.8-RELEASE development packages-current ^ 2.2.8-STABLE distfiles packages-current-aout ^ 3.0-CURRENT docs packages-stable ^ 3.0-RELEASE incoming ports ^ CERT index.html ports-3.0 ^ CTM ls-lR.gz ports-current ^ CVSup mailing-lists ports-stable ^ FreeBSD-CVS newsletter tools ^ FreeBSD-current packages updates ^ FreeBSD-stable packages-2.2.7 ^ README packages-2.2.8 ^ ^ Finding this increasingly rather cluttered, I'd like to propose ^ that we move to something more like this: In this new structure where would fit what used to be packages-2.2.7, packages-2.2.8 and packages-3.0 ? They are rather big, actually we have enough disk space for only one of them. What about the snapshots ? There will be a snapshots/ directory or it will be under the current/, stable/ or releases/ directories ? Also some time ago, I think during the 2.1.x releases, the XFree used to be a symbolic link to the /pub/XFree86 directory. So because of that we also did a mirror of that directory (both for FreeBSD and NetBSD). But lately we found out that we had a bunch of copies of XFree (one in the XFree, one with the RELEASE other with the SNAPSHOT and so on). Is there a way to organize that so we can keep only ONE copy of XFree for each version of FreeBSD (2.2.x and 3.x) ? For me the old symbolic link was just fine, but I believe that should be a reason for it to be removed. And last, where will be the commerce and xperimnt ? That is also using a considerable amount of space, and there aren't much users that download those from here. ^ ^ README.TXT ^ index.html ^ releases/ ^ README.TXT ^ index.html ^ 2.2.7-RELEASE/ ^ 2.2.8-RELEASE/ ^ 3.0-RELEASE/ ^ README.TXT ^ index.html ^ axp/ ^ x86/ ^ 2.2.8-STABLE -> stable ^ 3.0-CURRENT -> current ^ current/ ^ README.TXT ^ index.html ^ ports ^ packages ^ src ^ stable/ ^ README.TXT ^ index.html ^ ports ^ packages ^ src ^ ^ doc/ ^ index.html ^ INSTALL.TXT ^ README.TXT ^ HARDWARE.TXT ^ UPGRADE.TXT ^ etc... ^ ^ And that would be it for the top-level directory structure. The only ^ part of this I have any reservations about myself is splitting ^ 3.0-RELEASE into architecture subdirs, but I really don't see how we ^ can get around that step without yuck-ifying our hierarchy even more ^ as FreeBSD gets ported to other architectures (hey, they said it would ^ never happen at all and now we run on the AXP - think towards the ^ future! :). ^ ^ The index.html files I can also live without, but again, I'm think of ^ how many people may be indexing the site these days and how they'll ^ want to view it in the future. ^ ^ Comments? ^ ^ - Jordan ^ ^ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org ^ with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message ^ Rodolfo H G Faria To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Dec 22 10:09:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25210 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 10:09:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25205 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 10:09:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA81523; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 10:08:30 -0800 (PST) To: Rodolfo Heitor Gevaerd de Faria cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-maintainers@wcarchive.cdrom.com, dg@root.com Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 22 Dec 1998 15:01:03 -0200." <199812221701.PAA06560@euler.ravel.ufrj.br> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 10:08:29 -0800 Message-ID: <81498.914350109@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > In this new structure where would fit what used to be packages-2.2.7, > packages-2.2.8 and packages-3.0 ? They would live under the release dirs or, in the case of a "branch" set, under the branch subdirs. I'll paste in a current outline of the proposed changes below, just in case this is confusing. > What about the snapshots ? There will be a snapshots/ directory or it will > be under the current/, stable/ or releases/ directories ? Snapshots won't be distributed from ftp.cdrom.com anymore unless there's something special about one of them. I want to leave this to the current.freebsd.org/releng22.freebsd.org/??? servers which are dedicated to the purpose. If a snapshot ever does appear on ftp.cdrom.com, it will be under snapshot/ at the top level. > Is there a way to organize that so we can keep only ONE copy of XFree > for each version of FreeBSD (2.2.x and 3.x) ? For me the old symbolic link Nope! Different binary types, for one thing, and some special customizations which only we make for another. > And last, where will be the commerce and xperimnt ? That is also using a > considerable amount of space, and there aren't much users that download > those from here. They will live under the branch trees and be pointed at by the various releases that wish to do so. Anyway, here's the latest revision of my proposed reorg: README.TXT index.html releases/ README.TXT index.html 2.2.7-RELEASE/ 2.2.8-RELEASE/ 3.0-RELEASE/ 3.0.1-RELEASE/ README.TXT index.html axp/ x86/ 2.2.8-STABLE -> ../2.2-branch 3.0-CURRENT -> ../3.0-branch 3.0-branch/ README.TXT index.html ports packages src commerce xperimnt 2.2-branch/ README.TXT index.html ports packages src commerce xperimnt doc/ ... distfiles/ .. distfiles .. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Dec 22 11:02:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03774 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 11:02:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from passion.icparc.ic.ac.uk (passion.icparc.ic.ac.uk [155.198.179.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03752 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 11:02:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lmjm@icparc.ic.ac.uk) Received: from ham.icparc.ic.ac.uk ([155.198.177.28] helo=icparc.ic.ac.uk) by passion.icparc.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #1) id 0zsX4L-0007az-00; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 19:02:09 +0000 Message-ID: <367FECB1.15430C91@icparc.ic.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 19:02:09 +0000 From: Lee McLoughlin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" CC: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-maintainers@wcarchive.cdrom.com Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD References: <81498.914350109@zippy.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Could I make one suggestion, please? Once the new layout is decided upon could you write a shell script to move from the old layout to the new layout? I realise that it is a bit of extra work to do when you're probably already busy but it would make life considerably easier for the mirror sites. Lee Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > In this new structure where would fit what used to be packages-2.2.7, > > packages-2.2.8 and packages-3.0 ? > > They would live under the release dirs or, in the case of a "branch" > set, under the branch subdirs. I'll paste in a current outline of the > proposed changes below, just in case this is confusing. > > > What about the snapshots ? There will be a snapshots/ directory or it will > > be under the current/, stable/ or releases/ directories ? > > Snapshots won't be distributed from ftp.cdrom.com anymore unless > there's something special about one of them. I want to leave this to > the current.freebsd.org/releng22.freebsd.org/??? servers which are > dedicated to the purpose. If a snapshot ever does appear on ftp.cdrom.com, > it will be under snapshot/ at the top level. > > > Is there a way to organize that so we can keep only ONE copy of XFree > > for each version of FreeBSD (2.2.x and 3.x) ? For me the old symbolic link > > Nope! Different binary types, for one thing, and some special > customizations which only we make for another. > > > And last, where will be the commerce and xperimnt ? That is also using a > > considerable amount of space, and there aren't much users that download > > those from here. > > They will live under the branch trees and be pointed at by the various > releases that wish to do so. > > Anyway, here's the latest revision of my proposed reorg: > > README.TXT > index.html > releases/ > README.TXT > index.html > 2.2.7-RELEASE/ > > 2.2.8-RELEASE/ > > 3.0-RELEASE/ > > 3.0.1-RELEASE/ > README.TXT > index.html > axp/ > x86/ > 2.2.8-STABLE -> ../2.2-branch > 3.0-CURRENT -> ../3.0-branch > 3.0-branch/ > README.TXT > index.html > ports > packages > src > commerce > xperimnt > 2.2-branch/ > README.TXT > index.html > ports > packages > src > commerce > xperimnt > doc/ > ... > > distfiles/ > .. distfiles .. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message -- Lee McLoughlin. Phone: +44 171 594 8388 IC-Parc, Imperial College, Fax: +44 171 594 8432 South Kensington, London. SW7 2AZ. UK. Email: lmjm@icparc.ic.ac.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Dec 22 11:58:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29576 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 11:58:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from internal.mail.demon.net (internal.mail.demon.net [193.195.224.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA29458 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 11:58:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from malcolm@thokk.demon.co.uk) Received: from thokk.demon.co.uk (thokk.staff.demon.net [194.159.240.1]) by internal.mail.demon.net with SMTP id TAA08134; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 19:58:17 GMT Received: by thokk.demon.co.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28883; Tue, 22 Dec 98 19:58:10 GMT From: malcolm@thokk.demon.co.uk (Malcolm Muir) Message-Id: <9812221958.AA28883@thokk.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD To: lmjm@icparc.ic.ac.uk (Lee McLoughlin) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 19:58:10 +0000 (GMT) Cc: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-maintainers@wcarchive.cdrom.com Reply-To: malcolm@demon.net In-Reply-To: <367FECB1.15430C91@icparc.ic.ac.uk> from "Lee McLoughlin" at Dec 22, 98 07:02:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25aMSM] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Lee McLoughlin writes: > Could I make one suggestion, please? > > Once the new layout is decided upon could you write a shell script to > move from the old layout to the new layout? > > I realise that it is a bit of extra work to do when you're probably > already busy but it would make life considerably easier for the mirror > sites. Absolutely - We for one would find that *very* beneficial. Malcolm -- Malcolm S. Muir Demon Internet Ltd. Sunderland 322 Regents Park Road England London N3 2QQ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Dec 22 12:13:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA06459 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 12:13:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from root.com (root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA06273; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 12:12:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@root.com) Received: from root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16603; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 12:13:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812222013.MAA16603@root.com> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami), hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-maintainers@wcarchive.cdrom.com Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 22 Dec 1998 05:06:19 PST." <90893.914331979@zippy.cdrom.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 12:13:10 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> I don't mind you moving the directories, but a "distfiles" link has to >> stay at the top. We've been shipping bsd.port.mk with >> "/pub/FreeBSD/distfiles/" hardcoded as the backup so we can't move it >> until we have at least one release with the new location. > >Ah right, yes. Duly noted! Speaking of which, won't this reorg break all existing install floppies? -DG David Greenman Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Dec 22 21:03:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA25285 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 21:03:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA25267 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 21:03:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca36-72.ix.netcom.com [207.92.172.72]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA13910; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 21:01:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.6.9) id VAA11527; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 21:01:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 21:01:20 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812230501.VAA11527@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com CC: rodolfo@ravel.ufrj.br, hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-maintainers@wcarchive.cdrom.com, dg@root.com In-reply-to: <81498.914350109@zippy.cdrom.com> (jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * > In this new structure where would fit what used to be packages-2.2.7, * > packages-2.2.8 and packages-3.0 ? * * They would live under the release dirs or, in the case of a "branch" * set, under the branch subdirs. I'll paste in a current outline of the * proposed changes below, just in case this is confusing. You mean packages-2.2.7 would move to under 2.2.7-RELEASE? I don't mind moving old ones that way, but the reasons why all the new ones are outside with symlinks pointing that way is because the packages-X.Y.Z arrive earlier than X.Y.Z-RELEASE (for testing) and we didn't want to move them when the release is out to avoid causing unnecessary re-fetching by the mirrors. So we might as well take this into account and keep them separate from now on. * Anyway, here's the latest revision of my proposed reorg: * * README.TXT * index.html * releases/ * README.TXT * index.html * 2.2.7-RELEASE/ * * 2.2.8-RELEASE/ * * 3.0-RELEASE/ * * 3.0.1-RELEASE/ * README.TXT * index.html * axp/ * x86/ * 2.2.8-STABLE -> ../2.2-branch * 3.0-CURRENT -> ../3.0-branch I don't like the last two very much. We have a well-defined meaning for the word "release" and that's the official releases. Or is it necessary to somehow have all the "uname -r" name show up under the same directory for the install floppies to work? * 3.0-branch/ * README.TXT * index.html * ports * packages * src * commerce * xperimnt * 2.2-branch/ * README.TXT * index.html * ports * packages * src * commerce * xperimnt * doc/ * ... * * distfiles/ * .. distfiles .. Instead of this, how about we create one more toplevel "ports" where all the ports/packages/distfiles stuff will go. Links will be made from other places if necessary (including the toplevel "distfiles"). Something like: ports/ index.html distfiles/ distfiles-3.0.1/ (distfiles for 3.0.1 ports) packages-2.2.7/ packages-2.2.8/ packages-3.0/ packages-3.0.1/ packages-current/ packages-stable/ ports/ ("cvs co ports") ports-2.2.7/ (extracted version of 2.2.7/ports) ports-2.2.8/ (etc.) ports-3.0/ ports-3.0.1/ ports-current -> ports ports-stable -> ports There are many mirrors who don't have enough space for packages and/or distfiles, it will be easier for them to decide which ones to delete if they are all in one place. Especially if we finally go to the "distfiles per release" organization. Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Dec 22 21:47:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA00915 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 21:47:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA00908; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 21:47:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA28551; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 21:47:45 -0800 (PST) To: dg@root.com cc: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami), hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-maintainers@wcarchive.cdrom.com Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 22 Dec 1998 12:13:10 PST." <199812222013.MAA16603@root.com> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 21:47:44 -0800 Message-ID: <28547.914392064@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Speaking of which, won't this reorg break all existing install floppies? No, I intend to have a link called dists which points at releases/ for the medium term, at least until all the current releases are obsolete. All versions of sysinstall from 2.0.5 forward will look in both pub/FreeBSD/foo and pub/FreeBSD/dists/foo. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Dec 22 21:49:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA01110 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 21:49:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA01104; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 21:49:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA28571; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 21:49:50 -0800 (PST) To: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) cc: rodolfo@ravel.ufrj.br, hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-maintainers@wcarchive.cdrom.com, dg@root.com Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 22 Dec 1998 21:01:20 PST." <199812230501.VAA11527@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 21:49:50 -0800 Message-ID: <28567.914392190@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I don't like the last two very much. We have a well-defined meaning > for the word "release" and that's the official releases. Or is it > necessary to somehow have all the "uname -r" name show up under the > same directory for the install floppies to work? Exactly - at least for the post-release versions. If you update and run /stand/sysinstall on a -current or -stable machine, it will look for 2.2.8-STABLE or 3.0-CURRENT as the release string under which to grab packages, etc. > Instead of this, how about we create one more toplevel "ports" where > all the ports/packages/distfiles stuff will go. Links will be made > from other places if necessary (including the toplevel "distfiles"). > Something like: I could live with that, yeah. > There are many mirrors who don't have enough space for packages and/or > distfiles, it will be easier for them to decide which ones to delete Right, understood. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Dec 23 02:11:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA23644 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 02:11:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pascal.ravel.ufrj.br (pascal.ravel.ufrj.br [146.164.32.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA23631; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 02:11:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rodolfo@ravel.ufrj.br) Received: from ampere.ravel.ufrj.br (ampere.ravel.ufrj.br [10.10.0.80]) by pascal.ravel.ufrj.br (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id IAA13335; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 08:10:42 -0200 (EDT) From: Rodolfo Heitor Gevaerd de Faria Received: (from rodolfo@localhost) by ampere.ravel.ufrj.br (8.9.0/8.9.0) id IAA08074; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 08:10:41 -0200 (EDT) Message-Id: <199812231010.IAA08074@ampere.ravel.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199812230501.VAA11527@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> from Satoshi Asami at "Dec 22, 98 09:01:20 pm" To: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 08:10:41 -0200 (EDT) Cc: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, rodolfo@ravel.ufrj.br, hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-maintainers@wcarchive.cdrom.com, dg@root.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Satoshi Asami was saying that, [...] ^ ^ Instead of this, how about we create one more toplevel "ports" where ^ all the ports/packages/distfiles stuff will go. Links will be made ^ from other places if necessary (including the toplevel "distfiles"). ^ Something like: ^ ^ ports/ ^ index.html ^ distfiles/ ^ distfiles-3.0.1/ (distfiles for 3.0.1 ports) ^ packages-2.2.7/ ^ packages-2.2.8/ ^ packages-3.0/ ^ packages-3.0.1/ ^ packages-current/ ^ packages-stable/ ^ ports/ ("cvs co ports") ^ ports-2.2.7/ (extracted version of 2.2.7/ports) ^ ports-2.2.8/ (etc.) ^ ports-3.0/ ^ ports-3.0.1/ ^ ports-current -> ports ^ ports-stable -> ports ^ ^ There are many mirrors who don't have enough space for packages and/or ^ distfiles, it will be easier for them to decide which ones to delete ^ if they are all in one place. Especially if we finally go to the ^ "distfiles per release" organization. I like it. That was the reason because I asked where the packeges would go. They take a lot of space, so we decided here to keep just the last release package, even though there actually two of them now. I think also that the 2.2-branch/ and 3.0-branch/ are far better and less confusing than the stable/ and current/ names. Now I don't think it would be necessary to split the distfiles into 2 different directories. Those files are not exactly dependant on the releases. ^ ^ Satoshi ^ Rodolfo H G Faria To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Dec 23 02:58:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA29060 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 02:58:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from galeno.unicies.cesga.es (galeno.unicies.cesga.es [193.144.37.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA28964 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 02:57:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fan@unicies.cesga.es) Received: from unicies.cesga.es (damocles.unicies.cesga.es [193.144.37.16]) by galeno.unicies.cesga.es (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA06280 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 14:29:05 +0200 Message-ID: <3680CCBC.5054A9DE@unicies.cesga.es> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 11:58:04 +0100 From: "F@N" Reply-To: fan@unicies.cesga.es Organization: Hospital Xeral Cies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-NE (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: es,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org unsubscribe freebsd-hubs fan@galeno.unicies.cesga.es To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Dec 24 01:37:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA08549 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Thu, 24 Dec 1998 01:37:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from piglet.dstc.edu.au (piglet.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA08544 for ; Thu, 24 Dec 1998 01:37:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jason@piglet.dstc.edu.au) Received: (from jason@localhost) by piglet.dstc.edu.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA25075; Thu, 24 Dec 1998 19:37:33 +1000 (EST) From: jason andrade Message-Id: <199812240937.TAA25075@piglet.dstc.edu.au> Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 19:37:33 +1000 (EST) Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <28567.914392190@zippy.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Dec 22, 98 09:49:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org how much disk do the various areas take up on ftp.freebsd.org currently ? it would be nice to see some reduction in disk usage if possible. (like others, i'm running out of disk :-/) -jason -- jason andrade dstc pty ltd jason@dstc.edu.au senior sysadmin level 7, GPS Building 78 i just wanna be phn +61-7-33654307 university of queensland bluemisty fax +61-7-33654311 queensland 4072 australia and barefooted To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Dec 24 02:08:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA11270 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Thu, 24 Dec 1998 02:08:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA11265 for ; Thu, 24 Dec 1998 02:08:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA36688; Thu, 24 Dec 1998 02:08:00 -0800 (PST) To: jason andrade cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 24 Dec 1998 19:37:33 +1000." <199812240937.TAA25075@piglet.dstc.edu.au> Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 02:07:59 -0800 Message-ID: <36684.914494079@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > how much disk do the various areas take up on ftp.freebsd.org > currently ? it would be nice to see some reduction in disk usage > if possible. (like others, i'm running out of disk :-/) Each release runs around 180M. The -current and -stable trees also around the same, and CTM and such each take up a gig or two. We're using up 14GB in total right now, and I can only predict that this will increase with time rather than being reduced. If you want to be a mirror, be aware that the ante for staying in the game is only going to go up, not down! :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Dec 24 11:50:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12683 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Thu, 24 Dec 1998 11:50:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12675 for ; Thu, 24 Dec 1998 11:50:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca36-72.ix.netcom.com [207.92.172.72]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA16528; Thu, 24 Dec 1998 11:48:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.6.9) id LAA15321; Thu, 24 Dec 1998 11:48:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 11:48:21 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199812241948.LAA15321@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, rodolfo@ravel.ufrj.br, hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-maintainers@wcarchive.cdrom.com, dg@root.com In-reply-to: <199812230501.VAA11527@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> (asami@freebsd.org) Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I wrote: * ports/ * index.html * distfiles/ * distfiles-3.0.1/ (distfiles for 3.0.1 ports) * packages-2.2.7/ * packages-2.2.8/ * packages-3.0/ * packages-3.0.1/ * packages-current/ * packages-stable/ * ports/ ("cvs co ports") * ports-2.2.7/ (extracted version of 2.2.7/ports) * ports-2.2.8/ (etc.) * ports-3.0/ * ports-3.0.1/ * ports-current -> ports * ports-stable -> ports Maybe we should move the packages/ dir one level down. I forgot about alpha packages (which could start arriving any time soon). How about: ports/ index.html distfiles/ distfiles-3.0.1/ (distfiles for 3.0.1 ports) alpha/ packages-3.0.1/ packages-current/ i386/ packages-2.2.7/ packages-2.2.8/ packages-3.0/ packages-3.0.1/ packages-current/ packages-stable/ packages -> i386/packages-current ports/ ("cvs co ports") ports-2.2.7/ (extracted version of 2.2.7/ports) ports-2.2.8/ (etc.) ports-3.0/ ports-3.0.1/ ports-current -> ports ports-stable -> ports Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Dec 25 00:27:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA18717 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Fri, 25 Dec 1998 00:27:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mersey.nt.tas.gov.au (mersey.nt.tas.gov.au [147.109.247.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA18708 for ; Fri, 25 Dec 1998 00:27:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sdd@ntccc.tas.gov.au) Received: from excaliber ([147.109.130.102]) by mersey.nt.tas.gov.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA04854; Fri, 25 Dec 1998 19:16:41 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from sdd@ntccc.tas.gov.au) Message-Id: <199812250816.TAA04854@mersey.nt.tas.gov.au> X-Sender: sdd@mersey.nt.tas.gov.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 19:26:05 +1100 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , jason andrade From: Scott Donovan Subject: Re: Proposed reorganization of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <36684.914494079@zippy.cdrom.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >will increase with time rather than being reduced. If you want to >be a mirror, be aware that the ante for staying in the game is only >going to go up, not down! :-) Mutter, Mutter Mutter :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message