From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jun 21 03:33:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA01347 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 03:33:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from darla.swimsuit.internet.dk (pm22-57.image.dk [194.234.169.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01342 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 03:33:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@internet.dk) Received: from darla.swimsuit.internet.dk (darla.swimsuit.internet.dk [192.168.0.10]) by darla.swimsuit.internet.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA01511; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 12:32:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@internet.dk) Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 12:32:09 +0200 (CEST) From: Leif Neland Reply-To: leifn@internet.dk To: Ben Schumacher cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD - Apache Perl CGIs In-Reply-To: <199806202001.OAA12048@smtp.plinet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 20 Jun 1998, Ben Schumacher wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to setup one of our FreeBSD servers that is running Apache 1.2.5 > to support Perl CGIs. Actually, to put it more accurately, I have setup > one of our FreeBSD servers to support Perl CGIs, but not to the point where > I'm happy with them. > > Basically, what I'm trying to do is to make it possible for customers to be > able to upload Perl CGIs to our server and have it automatically set the > permissions to make the CGI executable, or just make it so that the Perl > CGIs can be interpreted. Either that or make it so that the CGIs don't > have to have the executable bit be set to be able to have them run by a > Perl interpreter. > > Does anybody know of a way to do this? I've tried playing around with > umask, but it refuses to set an executable bit, even when you give it > settings that tell it that it should do just that. If you really trust your users and their scripts that much, you could run a cronjob setting execute permissions. You could tell the users the new scripts would be automatically security-checked every 5 minutes past the hour... But any user running a real ftp program could just chmod the files themself. chmod 777 file works from the fbsd's ftp. Leif Neland leifn@internet.dk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jun 21 06:22:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA18014 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 06:22:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay1.aha.ru (relay1.aha.ru [195.2.83.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA17988 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 06:22:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ava@weblink.ru) Received: from postman.ru (koi.postman.ru [195.2.83.108]) by relay1.aha.ru (8.9.0.Beta5/aha-r/0.05B) with ESMTP id RAA28932 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 17:21:34 +0400 (MSD) Received: by postman.ru id RAA24191; (8.8.8/vak/1.9) Sun, 21 Jun 1998 17:21:13 +0400 (MSD) Received: from kitten-sl.mipt.ru(192.188.189.1) by win.postman.ru via smap (V1.3) id sma023783; Sun Jun 21 17:20:52 1998 Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 17:21:03 +0300 From: Alexei Alexandrov X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.00 Build 1319) UNREG Reply-To: WebLink Message-ID: <15722.980621@weblink.ru> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jun 21 06:31:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA18636 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 06:31:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay1.aha.ru (relay1.aha.ru [195.2.83.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA18625 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 06:31:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ava@weblink.ru) Received: from postman.ru (koi.postman.ru [195.2.83.108]) by relay1.aha.ru (8.9.0.Beta5/aha-r/0.05B) with ESMTP id RAA29695 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 17:30:34 +0400 (MSD) Received: by postman.ru id RAA24920; (8.8.8/vak/1.9) Sun, 21 Jun 1998 17:30:13 +0400 (MSD) Received: from kitten-sl.mipt.ru(192.188.189.1) by win.postman.ru via smap (V1.3) id sma024886; Sun Jun 21 17:29:59 1998 Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 17:30:42 +0300 From: Alexei Alexandrov X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.00 Build 1319) UNREG Reply-To: WebLink Message-ID: <3729.980621@weblink.ru> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Zyxel Elite 2864I Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello Freebsd-isp, I`m trying to setup an isdn line over 2864I modem. The problem i ran in is that serial port supports only 115Kbps and 2864I can do 128Kbps and even more with v.42 compression. I think i have to change a serial card on my FreeBSD router to make it support higher speeds. Has anyone had a problem like this? --- Alexei V. Alexandrov E-Mail: ava@weblink.ru WWW: www.weblink.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jun 21 23:13:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA25392 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 23:13:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from novoch.ru (novoch.ru [194.220.3.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA25313 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 23:12:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from us@novoch.ru) Received: from localhost (us@localhost) by novoch.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA28852; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:10:44 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from us@novoch.ru) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:10:44 +0400 (MSD) From: Sergei Ulianov To: Alexei Alexandrov cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Zyxel Elite 2864I In-Reply-To: <3729.980621@weblink.ru> Message-ID: Organization: Novocherkassk EUNet/Relcom Network Centre X-Mailer: Pine-3.95 X-Class: Fast MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Look at http://www.cronyx.ru Cronyx-Tau - up to 4MB/s On Sun, 21 Jun 1998, Alexei Alexandrov wrote: > Hello Freebsd-isp, > I`m trying to setup an isdn line over 2864I modem. The problem i ran > in is that serial port supports only 115Kbps and 2864I can do > 128Kbps and even more with v.42 compression. I think i have to > change a serial card on my FreeBSD router to make it support higher > speeds. Has anyone had a problem like this? > > Alexei V. Alexandrov --------------------------------------------------------------------- Sergei Ulianov | WAN Engineer, Information Centre, us@novoch.ru | Novocherkassk EUNet/Relcom Network Centre +7(86352)43692 | +7(86352)48292 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 22 11:36:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23625 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:36:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23492 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:36:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cassy@loop.com) Received: from patty.loop.com (patty-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.69]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA19327 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:35:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cassy@loop.com) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:34:47 -0700 (PDT) From: "Cassandra M. Perkins" Reply-To: "Cassandra M. Perkins" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Recommended SCSI Drives Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org For about a couple of years I have used Seagate Barracuta Drives. In that time, I had to get an inwarranty replacement for about 45% of the drives. I'm looking to purchase new drives and just wanted recommendations drives used by the list. I'm willing to settle for slower speeds (and possibly increased cost) for a highly reliable and robust drive. For my NFS setup, I'm considering using the DPT module. For those currently using it, what drives are you using? Also, does the DPT module only support the single channel PM3334UW raid controller? Thanks in advance. -Cassandra ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Cassandra M. Perkins | People usually get what's coming to | | Network Operations | them... unless it's been mailed. | | The Loop Internet Switch Co., LLC | -fortune | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 22 14:25:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA25559 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:25:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from avrasya.ispro.net.tr (avrasya.ispro.net.tr [195.174.18.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA25467 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:25:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from localhost (yurtesen@localhost) by avrasya.ispro.net.tr (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA03952 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:34:54 +0300 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:34:54 +0300 (EET DST) From: Evren Yurtesen To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: - pop3 - URGENT Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hello, here I have a serious problem!!! I have moved all users' mail boxes to their home directories like $HOME/mail now I am not able to find a pop3 daemon which may read them from there! how may I find a pop3 which does this? or how may I modify an existing pop3 daemon? please help! thank you +--------------------------------------------------------+ | Name : Evren Yurtesen - yurtesen@ispro.net.tr | | S-mail: Mithatpasa Cad. No:1079/13 35290 Guzelyali | | Home:+90-232-2857604 Work:+90-232-2463992 Izmir/TURKEY | +--------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 22 14:26:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA25649 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:26:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from avrasya.ispro.net.tr (avrasya.ispro.net.tr [195.174.18.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA25566 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:25:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from localhost (yurtesen@localhost) by avrasya.ispro.net.tr (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA03959 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:35:09 +0300 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:35:09 +0300 (EET DST) From: Evren Yurtesen To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: - pop3 - URGENT Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hello, here I have a serious problem!!! I have moved all users' mail boxes to their home directories like $HOME/mail now I am not able to find a pop3 daemon which may read them from there! how may I find a pop3 which does this? or how may I modify an existing pop3 daemon? please help! thank you +--------------------------------------------------------+ | Name : Evren Yurtesen - yurtesen@ispro.net.tr | | S-mail: Mithatpasa Cad. No:1079/13 35290 Guzelyali | | Home:+90-232-2857604 Work:+90-232-2463992 Izmir/TURKEY | +--------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 22 14:28:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA26412 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:28:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from avrasya.ispro.net.tr (avrasya.ispro.net.tr [195.174.18.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA26297 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:28:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from localhost (yurtesen@localhost) by avrasya.ispro.net.tr (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA04001 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:37:32 +0300 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:37:32 +0300 (EET DST) From: Evren Yurtesen To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: - pop3 - URGENT Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hello, here I have a serious problem!!! I have moved all users' mail boxes to their home directories like $HOME/mail now I am not able to find a pop3 daemon which may read them from there! how may I find a pop3 which does this? or how may I modify an existing pop3 daemon? please help! thank you +--------------------------------------------------------+ | Name : Evren Yurtesen - yurtesen@ispro.net.tr | | S-mail: Mithatpasa Cad. No:1079/13 35290 Guzelyali | | Home:+90-232-2857604 Work:+90-232-2463992 Izmir/TURKEY | +--------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 22 17:31:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA02823 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 17:31:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kosh.cococo.net (kosh.cococo.net [208.134.89.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA02804 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 17:31:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kosh@kosh.cococo.net) Received: from localhost (kosh@localhost) by kosh.cococo.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA03490; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 20:31:50 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 20:31:49 -0400 (EDT) From: "Kelley L." To: Evren Yurtesen cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: - pop3 - URGENT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > hello, > here I have a serious problem!!! > I have moved all users' mail boxes to their home directories > like $HOME/mail > now I am not able to find a pop3 daemon which may read them > from there! > how may I find a pop3 which does this? or how may I modify > an existing pop3 daemon? > > please help! > > thank you > cd /usr/ports/mail/cucipop make patch cd work/cucipop-1.21 Then edit the file authenticate.c, on line 44, it should be self explanatory. cd ../../ make install voila, you have a pop3 daemon that will work for you. later Kelley To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jun 22 19:49:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA08653 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 19:49:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from magicnet.magicnet.net (root@magicnet.magicnet.net [204.96.116.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA08631 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 19:49:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@bilver.magicnet.net) Received: from bilver.magicnet.net (uucp@localhost) by magicnet.magicnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.8) with UUCP id WAA04133 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 22:47:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.magicnet.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) id WAA27147 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 22:46:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Vermillion Message-Id: <199806230246.WAA27147@bilver.magicnet.net> Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI Drives In-Reply-To: from "Cassandra M. Perkins" at "Jun 22, 98 11:34:47 am" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 22:46:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Recently Cassandra M. Perkins said: > For about a couple of years I have used Seagate Barracuta Drives. > In that time, I had to get an inwarranty replacement for about 45% > of the drives. I'm looking to purchase new drives and just wanted > recommendations drives used by the list. I'm willing to settle for > slower speeds (and possibly increased cost) for a highly reliable > and robust drive. The Baracudda are robust and highly reliabe - if - make that a big IIFF - you install them according to the spec sheets that show the proper airflow direction and mounting instructions. The DIRECTION of air flow is very important. There is an exact diagram on Seagate's web page. Even Seagate says that if the drive is properly cooled the MTBF of something like 500,000 hours should be reached. If it not cooled properly drive life will be about 10,000 hours. This means that there should be no drive above them - or mounted in the center of a 3.5 1/2 bay, and proper cooling. I have a client who has 3 'cuddas in the their system - rock solid and faithful for about 2+ years. However there are THREE cooling fans in the case Bill -- bill@bilver.magicnet.net | bill@bilver.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 23 01:59:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA25715 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:59:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA25674 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:59:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01346; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:57:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Message-ID: <358F6E0D.A6A09151@tdx.co.uk> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:57:49 +0100 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Vermillion CC: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI Drives References: <199806230246.WAA27147@bilver.magicnet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bill Vermillion wrote: > The Baracudda are robust and highly reliabe - if - make that a big > IIFF - you install them according to the spec sheets that show the > proper airflow direction and mounting instructions. > [snip] > > This means that there should be no drive above them - or mounted in > the center of a 3.5 1/2 bay, and proper cooling. I have a client > who has 3 'cuddas in the their system - rock solid and faithful for > about 2+ years. However there are THREE cooling fans in the case I couldn't agree more with this - cooling is _very_ important... I have (touch wood) a large collection of 'old' drives, some of which are into their fifth year, all have been cooled to the point of 'warm to to the touch' for their entire lifetime, and (again, touch wood ;-) - No problems yet... The drives haven't even had any grown defects in years either... ;-) I'm also debating on whether it's a 'good' idea to spin them down and up every once in a while... We did have a spate of drives that would run for about 3-4 years, but would die if you spun them down (mostly _sounded_ like bad motors rather than the old 'sticky' media syndrome (FreeBSD systems are the worst offender for this, as they never crash badly / often enough to ensure the machine is switched off every once in a while! ) Regards, Karl Pielorz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 23 10:13:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23471 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:13:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23445 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:13:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsdlist@federation.addy.com) Received: from localhost (fbsdlist@localhost) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA28255; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:13:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:13:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Cliff Addy To: "Cassandra M. Perkins" cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI Drives In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Cassandra M. Perkins wrote: > For about a couple of years I have used Seagate Barracuta Drives. In that > time, I had to get an inwarranty replacement for about 45% of the drives. > I'm looking to purchase new drives and just wanted recommendations drives > used by the list. I'm willing to settle for slower speeds (and possibly > increased cost) for a highly reliable and robust drive. The hands-down winner for reliability for us has been IBM UltraStar drives. We run web servers and our drives get beat on all day, every day. BTW, the worst was Micropolis with Quantum running a close second (~100% failure rates). Seagate has been OK. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 23 10:40:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28006 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:40:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hobbes.saturn-tech.com (drussell@drussell.internode.net [198.161.228.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27991 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:40:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drussell@saturn-tech.com) Received: from localhost (drussell@localhost) by hobbes.saturn-tech.com (8.8.4/8.8.2) with SMTP id LAA22068; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:38:29 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:38:28 -0600 (MDT) From: Doug Russell To: Karl Pielorz cc: Bill Vermillion , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI Drives In-Reply-To: <358F6E0D.A6A09151@tdx.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'm also debating on whether it's a 'good' idea to spin them down and up > every once in a while... We did have a spate of drives that would run for > about 3-4 years, but would die if you spun them down (mostly _sounded_ like > bad motors rather than the old 'sticky' media syndrome (FreeBSD systems are > the worst offender for this, as they never crash badly / often enough to > ensure the machine is switched off every once in a while! ) Probably bad bearings somewhere... (ie. in the motor, as you suggest) The same kind of thing happens with those cheapo toy fans in most machines. On an extended run they'll be fine, but shut the machine off for a few minutes and power back up, and they start to make noises. One of these days I'm going to design my own fan that will actually last. Although, I suppose, there are good ones out there, you just have to find them. Speaking of cooling, lots of fans are the hot ticket. (get it? :) ) It might make the machine a little louder, but your components will love you for it. I just put the last couple in the server here in my office for a total of 6 fans (Counting the 1 CPU fan). 1 160 CFM monster in the front, and 4 standard 3.whatever-they-are inch on the back panel. Makes great flow from the front to the back, and really sucks air past the drives. (There are 10 exposed bays on the front, and I drill holes in the bottom of the case to mount 4 hard disks to the bottom. They get great cooling with the air flowing across the bottom and nothing within about 4" above them. Too bad I don't have a picture on the web site yet. :) Later...... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 23 13:09:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA25733 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:09:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from avrasya.ispro.net.tr (avrasya.ispro.net.tr [195.174.18.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA25695 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 13:09:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from localhost (yurtesen@localhost) by avrasya.ispro.net.tr (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA03635 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 00:18:36 +0300 Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 00:18:36 +0300 (EET DST) From: Evren Yurtesen To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: pop3-procmail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hello again, first thank you for people who helped me to set pop3 daemon to look at $HOME/mail but unfortunately now I have another problem! everytime an email arrives and sendmail uses procmail to store the mail in the users home directory... procmail also creates a file at /var/mail like /var/mail/$username this is a 0 byte file... how may I keep sendmail from creating that file? thank you +--------------------------------------------------------+ | Name : Evren Yurtesen - yurtesen@ispro.net.tr | | S-mail: Mithatpasa Cad. No:1079/13 35290 Guzelyali | | Home:+90-232-2857604 Work:+90-232-2463992 Izmir/TURKEY | +--------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jun 23 22:22:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA01384 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 22:22:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from super-g.inch.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA01302 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 22:22:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spork@super-g.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.inch.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA18410; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 01:22:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 01:22:06 -0400 (EDT) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: Doug Russell cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI Drives In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 23 Jun 1998, Doug Russell wrote: > Speaking of cooling, lots of fans are the hot ticket. (get it? :) ) It > might make the machine a little louder, but your components will love you > for it. I just put the last couple in the server here in my office for a > total of 6 fans (Counting the 1 CPU fan). 1 160 CFM monster in > the front, and 4 standard 3.whatever-they-are inch on the back panel. Being a big fan of trying to keep drives at room temperature while sticking as many as I can in a colo machine that has to be small, I'd love to see a picture of the box you described below. For a long time we shopped for "the ultimate PC enclosure" and it was always give and take. Room for drives, horrid airflow. Great airflow, room for two drives. Grrr. Anyone else here need to stuff lots of machines in a small space? What case do you use? How do you keep things cool? Our new build is most likely going to be a CalPC minitower, and I need to cram four drives and a CMD RAID controller in there, which takes one of the 5 1/4 slots up front. The case is nice, it has vents available for the front mount drives, the whole side of the case comes off easily, and you can slide the whole mobo cage out the back. What I really need now is a small "drive cage" to mount on the bottom for a few more drives... Thanks, Charles > > Makes great flow from the front to the back, and really sucks air past the > drives. (There are 10 exposed bays on the front, and I drill holes in the > bottom of the case to mount 4 hard disks to the bottom. They get great > cooling with the air flowing across the bottom and nothing within about 4" > above them. > > Too bad I don't have a picture on the web site yet. :) > > Later...... > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 24 00:47:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA27865 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 00:47:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from imap.noc.inc.net (imap.noc.inc.net [204.95.194.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA27832 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 00:47:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@inc.net) Received: from niki (niki.noc.inc.net [204.95.194.201]) by imap.noc.inc.net (8.8.5/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA21744 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 02:47:16 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: From: "Steve Kaczkowski" To: Subject: RE: Recommended SCSI Drives Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 02:41:40 -0500 Message-ID: <003601bd9f43$87013370$c9c25fcc@niki.noc.inc.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If you're looking for a PC case with a BUNCH of drive bays take a look at: http://www.jinco.com:80/map/011021.html We call it the BORG case, fits a TON of drives, has a bunch of fans, BIG power supply and lots of space to work in. Also if u take a look at the front you'll notice small divots in the cover, you can easily drill these out for extra air movement. Or if you just need a drive solution take a look at: http://www.kingston.com/prod/storage/ds-idx.htm VERY industrial rackmount SCSI case, these things are built to LAST, let me tell ya.. Hope this was helpful... Regards, Steve Kaczkowski Internet Connect, Inc. steve@inc.net (414)476-ICON x12 http://www.inc.net FAX(414)476-2403 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 24 05:31:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA22067 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 05:31:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA22019 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 05:31:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsdlist@federation.addy.com) Received: from localhost (fbsdlist@localhost) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA06140; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 08:31:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 08:31:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Cliff Addy To: spork cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI Drives In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, spork wrote: > Anyone else here need to stuff lots of machines in a small space? What > case do you use? How do you keep things cool? It's not an option for most folks, but we just mount our servers on plywood, no case at all, just set them on a shelf. Also allows us to swap out hardware *real* easy. Seems to work just fine and dandy. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 24 07:41:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA14875 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 07:41:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xenu.denverweb.net (xenu.denverweb.net [199.45.153.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA14869 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 07:41:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bminazzi@w3page.com) Received: from orion (blaine@sdn-ts-001coauroP03.dialsprint.net [206.133.160.22]) by xenu.denverweb.net (8.8.8/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA03667; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 08:41:49 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <35910BBF.24E4DE58@w3page.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 08:22:55 -0600 From: Blaine Minazzi Organization: What, me organized? X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.32 i486) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Russell CC: Karl Pielorz , Bill Vermillion , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI Drives References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doug Russell wrote: > The same kind of thing happens with those cheapo toy fans in most > machines. On an extended run they'll be fine, but shut the machine off > for a few minutes and power back up, and they start to make noises. > > One of these days I'm going to design my own fan that will actually last. > Although, I suppose, there are good ones out there, you just have to find > them. P.C. Power and Cooling. Power supplies and fans. Bkm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 24 09:27:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04263 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:27:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from super-g.inch.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04106 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 09:26:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spork@super-g.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.inch.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA22433; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:26:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:26:29 -0400 (EDT) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: Cliff Addy cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI Drives In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Cliff Addy wrote: > It's not an option for most folks, but we just mount our servers on > plywood, no case at all, just set them on a shelf. Also allows us to swap > out hardware *real* easy. Seems to work just fine and dandy. *That* I want to see a picture of... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 24 11:09:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25105 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:09:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from the.oneinsane.net (insane@gw.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25041 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:08:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from insane@the.oneinsane.net) Received: (from insane@localhost) by the.oneinsane.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26263; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:08:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from insane) Message-ID: <19980624110841.A25914@oneinsane.net> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:08:41 -0700 From: "Ron 'The Insane One' Rosson" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI Drives Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from spork on Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 12:26:29PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD the.oneinsane.net 2.2.6-STABLE X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-Disclaimer: I am a firm believer in RTFM X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 12:26:29PM -0400, spork wrote: > > > On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Cliff Addy wrote: > > > It's not an option for most folks, but we just mount our servers on > > plywood, no case at all, just set them on a shelf. Also allows us to swap > > out hardware *real* easy. Seems to work just fine and dandy. > > *That* I want to see a picture of... *You* are not the *ONLY* one. ;-) -- -------------------------------------------------------- Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was null and void -------------------------------------------------------- It's so nice to be insane, nobody asks you to explain. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 24 11:33:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00719 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:33:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.atipa.com (altrox.atipa.com [208.128.22.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA00644 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:32:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@atipa.com) Received: (qmail 18496 invoked by uid 1017); 24 Jun 1998 17:29:36 -0000 Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:29:36 -0600 (MDT) From: Atipa To: spork cc: Doug Russell , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI Drives In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Our new build is most likely going to be a CalPC minitower, and I need to > cram four drives and a CMD RAID controller in there, which takes one of > the 5 1/4 slots up front. The case is nice, it has vents available for > the front mount drives, the whole side of the case comes off easily, and > you can slide the whole mobo cage out the back. What I really need now is > a small "drive cage" to mount on the bottom for a few more drives... Insist on ATX form factor, and a case that has (2) fans in addition to the fan inside the PS. Our ATX Full Tower fits the bill, and has gobs of drive space. The extra hieght will also aid in airflow and dissipation. Use an external SCSI enclosure on all 7200 and abov RPM drives, especially if using a faster P2 system. The P2-400 is a toaster. In need heatsinks on the CPU, the BX Chipset, the AGP chipset, and the VRM. That will be hot inside even w/o drives. Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 24 11:43:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02475 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:43:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from magicnet.magicnet.net (root@magicnet.magicnet.net [204.96.116.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02407 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:42:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@bilver.magicnet.net) Received: from bilver.magicnet.net (uucp@localhost) by magicnet.magicnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.8) with UUCP id OAA18281 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:39:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.magicnet.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) id OAA00900 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:21:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Vermillion Message-Id: <199806241821.OAA00900@bilver.magicnet.net> Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI Drives In-Reply-To: from Cliff Addy at "Jun 24, 98 08:31:32 am" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:21:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Recently Cliff Addy said: > On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, spork wrote: > > Anyone else here need to stuff lots of machines in a small space ? > > What case do you use? How do you keep things cool? > It's not an option for most folks, but we just mount our servers > on plywood, no case at all, just set them on a shelf. Also allows > us to swap out hardware *real* easy. Seems to work just fine and > dandy. Believe it or not, depending on the board layout, the population of the board, etc., you could be in worse shape with no case. A "PROPERLY DESIGNED" (note those words carefully) case will direct the flow through the boards and around the drives. With no case you can have the problem of 'spot heating' in between boards if no air is ducted through them. Your system sounds like it would be ideal for a test setup. eg testing boards, etc, trying out new things, but I think it could be problematic in a production system. That being said I saw the network that a friend of mine runs. Their inteface to the net is an old 486, with no case, but with a 5" muffin fan hanging from a wire blowing directly onto the hard drive and boards. Having no case does NOT elminate the need for fans. I see that more and more 'server cases' are now being deisgned properly. The 'PC model' has a power supply that blows air out. That mean it sucks air in through every opening, and using the Bernouli prinicpal the smaller openings have a higher velocity and tend to collect more dirt. This means you have dirty sockets (of course we've done away with socketed parts anymore) that don't work when you put a chip in them, floppy drives that don't work because of 6 months worth of dirty air blowing across them, and on and on. Good engineering practice dictates sucking air into a system through a filter inlet and the result is that the case is pressurized. I've opening up a few of that type that had been in service for years - and they were very mildly dusty. OTOH the stock PCs get so fouled/filled with dirt after a couple of years you could probably start a garden. Bill -- bill@bilver.magicnet.net | bill@bilver.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 24 11:43:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02579 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:43:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from unix.kawartha.com (unix.kawartha.com [204.101.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02487 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:43:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@kawartha.com) Received: from kawartha.com (tech.kawartha.com [204.101.15.95]) by unix.kawartha.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA16487 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:44:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35914AA4.B09E6EE8@kawartha.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:51:16 -0400 From: Paul Stewart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: IP Routing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry if this is offtopic but I'm in a panic here to get a remote LAN connected...:) Our local lan is 204.101.15.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 Our remote lan is 209.226.30.240 netmask 255.255.255.240 The gateway at our end is 204.101.15.90 (nt box) Here's what I'd like to do.. anyone see any problems (ip wise) with this? Remote Server 209.226.30.241 Remote PPP connection 209.226.30.242 Local PPP connection 209.226.30.243 Local Server 204.101.15.90 On local server at a route something like this.. - add a route using network address 209.226.30.240 with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.240 and a gateway of 209.226.30.242 (remote ppp link). On remote server at a route something like this... - add a route using network address 0.0.0.0 with a subnet mask of 0.0.0.0 and a gateway of 209.226.30.243 (local ppp link). Something doesn't look right here.... but I'm open to opinions... unfortunately there's more NT involved here than FreeBSD but that's not by choice... Finally, a legistics question... should the netmask above (255.255.255.240) really be that or should it be 209.226.30.240?? I know that's a really dumb question but just want to make sure..:) Thanks very much, Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 24 12:22:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA10087 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:22:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from homer.supersex.com (homer.supersex.com [209.5.1.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09948 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 12:21:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leo@homer.supersex.com) Received: (from leo@localhost) by homer.supersex.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id PAA24283; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 15:21:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19980624152147.03211@supersex.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 15:21:47 -0400 From: Leo Papandreou To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI Drives References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from spork on Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 12:26:29PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 12:26:29PM -0400, spork wrote: > > > On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Cliff Addy wrote: > > > It's not an option for most folks, but we just mount our servers on > > plywood, no case at all, just set them on a shelf. Also allows us to swap > > out hardware *real* easy. Seems to work just fine and dandy. You wont be getting a constant airflow across the drives if you keep them in the open. A ventilated enclosure is superior to no enclosure at all. By a long shot. > > *That* I want to see a picture of... > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 24 21:07:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA09139 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:07:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Gatekeeper.Alameda.net (ulf@gatekeeper.Alameda.net [207.90.181.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA09088 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:06:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ulf@Gatekeeper.Alameda.net) Received: by Gatekeeper.Alameda.net (8.9.0/8.8.6) id VAA17854; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19980624210647.B12733@Alameda.net> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:06:47 -0700 From: Ulf Zimmermann To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI Drives Reply-To: ulf@Alameda.net References: <19980624110841.A25914@oneinsane.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19980624110841.A25914@oneinsane.net>; from Ron 'The Insane One' Rosson on Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 11:08:41AM -0700 Organization: Alameda Networks, Inc. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 11:08:41AM -0700, Ron 'The Insane One' Rosson wrote: > On Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 12:26:29PM -0400, spork wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Cliff Addy wrote: > > > > > It's not an option for most folks, but we just mount our servers on > > > plywood, no case at all, just set them on a shelf. Also allows us to swap > > > out hardware *real* easy. Seems to work just fine and dandy. > > > > *That* I want to see a picture of... > > *You* are not the *ONLY* one. ;-) > Ok, I have to tell a story now too ;-) A friend of mine took once a nice piece of wood, polished and painted it. He then used cooper to build motherboard bolts (to mount it on), a frame for the cards (simular like in a case). He took the power supply, replaced the whole metal case with a plexi glass case. He mounted all the cables in a very neat fashion, in a rectangle, etc. I will try if I can find a picture of it. -- Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-769-2936 Alameda Networks, Inc. | http://www.Alameda.net | Fax#: 510-521-5073 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 24 21:11:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA09941 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:11:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Gatekeeper.Alameda.net (ulf@gatekeeper.Alameda.net [207.90.181.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA09873 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:11:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ulf@Gatekeeper.Alameda.net) Received: by Gatekeeper.Alameda.net (8.9.0/8.8.6) id VAA18059; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19980624211107.D12733@Alameda.net> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:11:07 -0700 From: Ulf Zimmermann To: Atipa , spork Cc: Doug Russell , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI Drives Reply-To: ulf@Alameda.net References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Atipa on Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 11:29:36AM -0600 Organization: Alameda Networks, Inc. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jun 24, 1998 at 11:29:36AM -0600, Atipa wrote: > > > Our new build is most likely going to be a CalPC minitower, and I need to > > cram four drives and a CMD RAID controller in there, which takes one of > > the 5 1/4 slots up front. The case is nice, it has vents available for > > the front mount drives, the whole side of the case comes off easily, and > > you can slide the whole mobo cage out the back. What I really need now is > > a small "drive cage" to mount on the bottom for a few more drives... > > Insist on ATX form factor, and a case that has (2) fans in addition to the > fan inside the PS. Our ATX Full Tower fits the bill, and has gobs of drive > space. The extra hieght will also aid in airflow and dissipation. > > Use an external SCSI enclosure on all 7200 and abov RPM drives, especially > if using a faster P2 system. The P2-400 is a toaster. In need heatsinks on > the CPU, the BX Chipset, the AGP chipset, and the VRM. That will be hot > inside even w/o drives. I just bought a Supermicro SC 750A case. It has 3 possible fans in the front, 1 extra fan in the back, a temp controlled fan above the ATX cpu position and 2 fans mounted on the side of the 6 5.25" HH slots. Very nice case, has only one problem, they made the IO face plate opening not standard. They included faces plates for the more common boards, but for the Intel DK440LX not. And the face plate Intel gives, doesn't fit. I talked with them, they are supposely fixing it and are sending me a fitting face plate. > > Kevin > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-769-2936 Alameda Networks, Inc. | http://www.Alameda.net | Fax#: 510-521-5073 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 24 22:43:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA24464 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 22:43:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aniwa.sky (aniwa.actrix.gen.nz [203.96.56.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA24408 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 22:43:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by aniwa.sky (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA07163; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:41:53 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) X-Authentication-Warning: aniwa.sky: andrew owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:41:53 +1200 (NZST) From: Andrew McNaughton X-Sender: andrew@aniwa.sky Reply-To: andrew@squiz.co.nz To: Atipa cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI Drives In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 24 Jun 1998, Atipa wrote: > Insist on ATX form factor, and a case that has (2) fans in addition to the > fan inside the PS. Our ATX Full Tower fits the bill, and has gobs of drive > space. The extra hieght will also aid in airflow and dissipation. I've run into a problem with an ATX server's power supply where in case of power failure, the machine would not reboot without someone manually pushing the button on the front. The motherboard had no bios setting to avoid this, and local service departments were not able to help other than to suggest a new mother board. I ended up making up my own circuit to provide a signal pulse signal to the power supply triggered and powered off the standby power line. Works fine. I'm curious to know how common this problem is and whether there's a more conventional solution to it? Andrew McNaughton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jun 24 23:50:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA06252 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 23:50:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from x10.boston.juno.com (x10.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA06246 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 23:49:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from egravel@juno.com) Received: (from egravel@juno.com) by x10.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DGKQRZCE; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 02:47:31 EDT To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 23:50:27 -0700 Subject: Setting up DNS Message-ID: <19980624.235028.3534.0.egravel@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-58,60-74,76-90,92-97 From: egravel@juno.com (Emmanuel Gravel) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have two networked computers at home. One is FreeBSD, the other Win95. I'm experimenting with a local network first before going into buisness. I've set up a few named files, and for the most part it seems to work, except that I can't resolve hostnames, and nslookup won't work on the FreeBSD box. Here are the files: hosts.conf: order hosts,bind alert on nospoof on multi on 1- hosts: 127.0.0.1 freebsdbox freebsdbox.mtzlplk.org 207.240.64.1 freebsdbox freebsdbox.mtzlplk.org 207.240.64.2 win95box win95box.mtzlplk.org 207.240.64.254 gateway gateway.mtzlplk.org 2- hosts.allow: # # hosts.allow This file describes the names of the hosts which are # allowed to use the local INET services, as decided # by the '/usr/sbin/tcpd' server. # 207.240.64.1 207.240.64.2 3- hosts.deny has no entries (only a small local network...) 4- named.boot: ; ; a caching only nameserver config ; directory /var/named cache . named.ca primary mtzlplk.org named.hosts primary 240.207.in-adr.arpa named.rev primary 0.0.127.in-addr.arpa named.local 5- named.local: IN SOA localhost. root.localhost. ( 1 ; Serial 28800 ; Refresh 300 ; Retry 3600000 ; Expire 86400 ) ; Minimum IN NS localhost. 1 IN PTR localhost. 6- named.hosts: @ IN SOA freebsdbox.mtzlplk.org. root.mtzlplk.org. ( 1 ; Serial 28800 ; Refresh 300 ; Retry 3600000 ; Expire 86400 ) ; Minimum IN NS freebsdbox.mtzlplk.org @ IN A 207.240.64.1 freebsdbox IN A 207.240.64.1 win95box IN A 207.240.64.2 localhost IN A 127.0.0.1 7- named.rev: @ IN SOA freebsdbox.mtzlplk.org. root.mtzlplk.org. ( 1 ; Serial 28800 ; Refresh 300 ; Retry 3600000 ; Expire 86400 ) ; Minimum IN NS freebsdbox.mtzlplk.org 1 IN PTR freebsdbox.mtzlplk.org 2 IN PTR win95box.mtzlplk.org I left the named.ca file intact (seem to have no need for it anyways...) Does anyone have any ideas on this? I'm sure it's a simple, trivial detail to be fixed somewhere, but since I have little/no experience in networking and unix-like OS'es (apart from being a user) this is something I've never had to deal with before... Thanks! Manu _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 25 05:46:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA00134 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 05:46:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from avrasya2.ispro.net.tr (avrasya2.ispro.net.tr [195.174.18.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA29939 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 05:45:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from localhost (yurtesen@localhost) by avrasya2.ispro.net.tr (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA09350 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:55:48 +0300 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:55:48 +0300 (EET DST) From: Evren Yurtesen To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: nonexistent Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hello I have set my users to not to have shell access by setting their shell to /nonexistent I use wu-ftpd for ftp access... but now it does not let people do ftp to server... what should I do? I did not want to give shell access to users because of security reasons. +--------------------------------------------------------+ | Name : Evren Yurtesen - yurtesen@ispro.net.tr | | S-mail: Mithatpasa Cad. No:1079/13 35290 Guzelyali | | Home:+90-232-2857604 Work:+90-232-2463992 Izmir/TURKEY | +--------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 25 06:33:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA09064 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:33:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from unix.kawartha.com (unix.kawartha.com [204.101.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA09056 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:33:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@kawartha.com) Received: from kawartha.com (tech.kawartha.com [204.101.15.95]) by unix.kawartha.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA24007; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:35:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35925399.46400EF5@kawartha.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:41:45 -0400 From: Paul Stewart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Evren Yurtesen , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nonexistent References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Somebody might be able to yell at me for this, but on several of our ftp servers we use DATE as our shell and they can't get shell access. Hopefully nobody is going to flame me over that...:) Make sure you add /bin/date to your /etc/shells file or it won't show... Paul Evren Yurtesen wrote: > > hello > I have set my users to not to have shell access by setting > their shell to /nonexistent I use wu-ftpd for ftp access... > but now it does not let people do ftp to server... > what should I do? > I did not want to give shell access to users because > of security reasons. > > +--------------------------------------------------------+ > | Name : Evren Yurtesen - yurtesen@ispro.net.tr | > | S-mail: Mithatpasa Cad. No:1079/13 35290 Guzelyali | > | Home:+90-232-2857604 Work:+90-232-2463992 Izmir/TURKEY | > +--------------------------------------------------------+ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 25 06:45:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA10069 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:45:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from finland.ispro.net.tr (finland.ispro.net.tr [195.174.18.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA10023 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 06:44:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from localhost (yurtesen@localhost) by finland.ispro.net.tr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA00531 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:19:52 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:19:52 +0300 (EEST) From: Evren Yurtesen To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ftp-nonexistent Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hello I have set users shell accounts to /nonexistent because of security reasons but now my users are not able to make ftp too! what should I do to solve this problem? +--------------------------------------------------------+ | Name : Evren Yurtesen - yurtesen@ispro.net.tr | | S-mail: Mithatpasa Cad. No:1079/13 35290 Guzelyali | | Home:+90-232-2857604 Work:+90-232-2463992 Izmir/TURKEY | +--------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 25 08:44:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29249 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:44:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cam.grad.kiev.ua (grad-UTC-28k8.ukrtel.net [195.5.25.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29151 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 08:44:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Ruslan@Shevchenko.Kiev.UA) Received: from Shevchenko.Kiev.UA (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cam.grad.kiev.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA16533; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 18:42:23 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <35926FD8.F6AA3BAD@Shevchenko.Kiev.UA> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 18:42:17 +0300 From: Ruslan Shevchenko Reply-To: rssh@grad.kiev.ua Organization: GlavAPU X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Evren Yurtesen CC: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nonexistent References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Evren Yurtesen wrote: > hello > I have set my users to not to have shell access by setting > their shell to /nonexistent I use wu-ftpd for ftp access... > but now it does not let people do ftp to server... > what should I do? > I did not want to give shell access to users because > of security reasons. include /bin/date in /etc/shells and sett user shells to /bin/date (I.e. give them some correct, but useless shell) > > > +--------------------------------------------------------+ > | Name : Evren Yurtesen - yurtesen@ispro.net.tr | > | S-mail: Mithatpasa Cad. No:1079/13 35290 Guzelyali | > | Home:+90-232-2857604 Work:+90-232-2463992 Izmir/TURKEY | > +--------------------------------------------------------+ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- @= //RSSH mailto:Ruslan@Shevchenko.Kiev.UA CORBA in Ukraine ? ex-USSR: http://www.corbadev.kiev.ua To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 25 09:45:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07638 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:45:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from imap.ncsa.es (correo.nexus.es [194.179.50.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA07613 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:45:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Received: from jesus.nexus.es (piolin.ncsa.es [194.179.50.134]) by imap.ncsa.es (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA03809 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 18:45:31 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: "Jesus Rodriguez" From: "Jesus Rodriguez" To: Subject: SSLeay-0.9.0 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 18:43:01 +0200 Message-ID: <01bda058$513a8dc0$8632b3c2@jesus.nexus.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello... Any one has been able to compile SSLeay-0.9.0 in FreeBSD 2.2.6 ? I can't do it :( Thanks in advance. --------------------------------------------------------- Jesus Rodriguez (jesusr@ncsa.es) Dpto. Tecnico Nexus Comunicaciones, S.A. Telf. 902-466664 --------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 25 10:18:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA14837 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:18:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from finland.ispro.net.tr (finland.ispro.net.tr [195.174.18.5] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA14822 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:18:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from localhost (yurtesen@localhost) by finland.ispro.net.tr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA01243 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:18:18 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:18:18 +0300 (EEST) From: Evren Yurtesen To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cisco3640-so-urgent Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hello this is not exactly related with FreeBSD but I do not know any other list which I may send this question to if you know any cisco lists I would like to get their addresses thank you we own a cisco 3640 router. when we connect it to our local network, our server at 195.174.18.1 does not work... and also I have found out that cisco sometimes greplies to ping sequences as if it was 195.174.18.1 !... I am sending the configuration file attached... what is wrong??? Building configuration... Current configuration: ! version 11.2 no service udp-small-servers no service tcp-small-servers ! hostname guyana ! aaa new-model aaa authentication username-prompt "guyana2 login: " aaa authentication login vtymethod local aaa authentication login linmethod tacacs+ none aaa authentication ppp pppmethod if-needed tacacs+ none aaa authorization network tacacs+ none aaa accounting network start-stop tacacs+ enable password ###### ! username yurtesen password ################ username ard password ############### memory-size iomem 30 ip name-server 195.174.18.5 chat-script default "" AT&F1M0S0=1&C1&D3&H1&R2&B1&K1&M4&W0 OK ! controller E1 0/0 shutdown ! controller E1 0/1 shutdown ! interface Serial1/0 physical-layer async no ip address shutdown ! interface Serial1/1 physical-layer async no ip address shutdown ! interface Serial1/2 physical-layer async no ip address shutdown ! interface Serial1/3 physical-layer async no ip address shutdown ! interface Serial1/4 physical-layer async no ip address shutdown ! interface Serial1/5 physical-layer async no ip address shutdown ! interface Serial1/6 physical-layer async no ip address shutdown ! interface Serial1/7 physical-layer async no ip address shutdown ! interface Ethernet3/0 description connected to EthernetLAN ip address 195.174.18.254 255.255.0.0 ! interface Serial3/0 description connected to Internet ip address 194.54.37.142 255.255.255.0 ip tcp header-compression passive no ip mroute-cache encapsulation ppp compress predictor ! interface Ethernet3/1 no ip address shutdown ! interface Group-Async1 description connected to async interface ip unnumbered Ethernet3/0 ip tcp header-compression passive encapsulation ppp async mode interactive peer default ip address pool Group-1 no cdp enable ppp reliable-link ppp authentication pap pppmethod group-range 65 96 ! router rip version 2 network 195.174.18.0 network 195.174.177.0 no auto-summary ! ip local pool Group-1 195.174.177.1 195.174.177.254 ip default-gateway 194.54.37.141 ip classless ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Serial3/0 tacacs-server host 195.174.18.5 tacacs-server key ##### ! line con 0 exec-timeout 0 0 password ############# line 33 40 line 65 96 session-timeout 20 autoselect during-login autoselect ppp script startup default script reset default login authentication linmethod modem answer-timeout 0 modem Dialin autocommand ppp speed 115200 flowcontrol hardware line aux 0 line vty 0 4 login authentication vtymethod ! end +--------------------------------------------------------+ | Name : Evren Yurtesen - yurtesen@ispro.net.tr | | S-mail: Mithatpasa Cad. No:1079/13 35290 Guzelyali | | Home:+90-232-2857604 Work:+90-232-2463992 Izmir/TURKEY | +--------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 25 10:30:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17236 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:30:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.atipa.com (altrox.atipa.com [208.128.22.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA17175 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:29:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@atipa.com) Received: (qmail 22181 invoked by uid 1017); 25 Jun 1998 16:26:52 -0000 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 10:26:52 -0600 (MDT) From: Atipa To: Andrew McNaughton cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI Drives In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Insist on ATX form factor, and a case that has (2) fans in addition to the > > fan inside the PS. Our ATX Full Tower fits the bill, and has gobs of drive > > space. The extra hieght will also aid in airflow and dissipation. > > I've run into a problem with an ATX server's power supply where in case of > power failure, the machine would not reboot without someone manually > pushing the button on the front. The motherboard had no bios setting to > avoid this, and local service departments were not able to help other than > to suggest a new mother board. Yes, that is a problem. We sold some ATX machines to the local gas company to do real-time flow control w/ QNX, until they realized they could not do a remote reboot. We had to take back the machines. > I ended up making up my own circuit to provide a signal pulse signal to > the power supply triggered and powered off the standby power line. Works > fine. Like a watchdog or what? I don't understand your trigger mechanism, unless you NAND the power supply and MB power... > I'm curious to know how common this problem is and whether there's a more > conventional solution to it? Well, a reboot causes the machine to shutdown completely, so a BIOS fix would not work. There are some MBs that use a toggle switch instead of intermittant, but the cases are based on intermittant (reset-type) powers. Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 25 13:14:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18539 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:14:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Gatekeeper.Alameda.net (ulf@gatekeeper.Alameda.net [207.90.181.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18500 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:13:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ulf@Gatekeeper.Alameda.net) Received: by Gatekeeper.Alameda.net (8.9.0/8.8.6) id NAA25223; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19980625131341.A24812@Alameda.net> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:13:41 -0700 From: Ulf Zimmermann To: Evren Yurtesen , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cisco3640-so-urgent Reply-To: ulf@Alameda.net References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Evren Yurtesen on Thu, Jun 25, 1998 at 08:18:18PM +0300 Organization: Alameda Networks, Inc. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jun 25, 1998 at 08:18:18PM +0300, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > > hello this is not exactly related with FreeBSD > but I do not know any other list which I may send this question to > if you know any cisco lists I would like to get their addresses > thank you > > > we own a cisco 3640 router. > when we connect it to our local network, > our server at 195.174.18.1 does not work... > and also I have found out that cisco sometimes > greplies to ping sequences as if it was 195.174.18.1 !... > I am sending the configuration file attached... > what is wrong??? > > Building configuration... > > Current configuration: > ! > version 11.2 > no service udp-small-servers > no service tcp-small-servers > ! > hostname guyana > ! > aaa new-model > aaa authentication username-prompt "guyana2 login: " > aaa authentication login vtymethod local > aaa authentication login linmethod tacacs+ none > aaa authentication ppp pppmethod if-needed tacacs+ none > aaa authorization network tacacs+ none > aaa accounting network start-stop tacacs+ > enable password ###### > ! > username yurtesen password ################ > username ard password ############### > memory-size iomem 30 > ip name-server 195.174.18.5 > chat-script default "" AT&F1M0S0=1&C1&D3&H1&R2&B1&K1&M4&W0 OK > ! > controller E1 0/0 > shutdown > ! > controller E1 0/1 > shutdown > ! > interface Serial1/0 > physical-layer async > no ip address > shutdown > ! > interface Serial1/1 > physical-layer async > no ip address > shutdown > ! > interface Serial1/2 > physical-layer async > no ip address > shutdown > ! > interface Serial1/3 > physical-layer async > no ip address > shutdown > ! > interface Serial1/4 > physical-layer async > no ip address > shutdown > ! > interface Serial1/5 > physical-layer async > no ip address > shutdown > ! > interface Serial1/6 > physical-layer async > no ip address > shutdown > ! > interface Serial1/7 > physical-layer async > no ip address > shutdown > ! > interface Ethernet3/0 > description connected to EthernetLAN > ip address 195.174.18.254 255.255.0.0 Do you really have the whole 195.174 ? I kinda doub that. Which means the netmask is wrong. > ! > interface Serial3/0 > description connected to Internet > ip address 194.54.37.142 255.255.255.0 > ip tcp header-compression passive > no ip mroute-cache > encapsulation ppp > compress predictor > ! > interface Ethernet3/1 > no ip address > shutdown > ! > interface Group-Async1 > description connected to async interface > ip unnumbered Ethernet3/0 > ip tcp header-compression passive > encapsulation ppp > async mode interactive > peer default ip address pool Group-1 > no cdp enable > ppp reliable-link > ppp authentication pap pppmethod > group-range 65 96 > ! > router rip > version 2 > network 195.174.18.0 > network 195.174.177.0 > no auto-summary > ! > ip local pool Group-1 195.174.177.1 195.174.177.254 > ip default-gateway 194.54.37.141 > ip classless > ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Serial3/0 > tacacs-server host 195.174.18.5 > tacacs-server key ##### > ! > line con 0 > exec-timeout 0 0 > password ############# > line 33 40 > line 65 96 > session-timeout 20 > autoselect during-login > autoselect ppp > script startup default > script reset default > login authentication linmethod > modem answer-timeout 0 > modem Dialin > autocommand ppp > speed 115200 > flowcontrol hardware > line aux 0 > line vty 0 4 > login authentication vtymethod > ! > end > > +--------------------------------------------------------+ > | Name : Evren Yurtesen - yurtesen@ispro.net.tr | > | S-mail: Mithatpasa Cad. No:1079/13 35290 Guzelyali | > | Home:+90-232-2857604 Work:+90-232-2463992 Izmir/TURKEY | > +--------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-769-2936 Alameda Networks, Inc. | http://www.Alameda.net | Fax#: 510-521-5073 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 25 13:30:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA21379 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:30:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from otto.oss.uswest.net (otto.oss.uswest.net [204.147.85.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA21270 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:29:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pmckenna@otto.oss.uswest.net) Received: (from pmckenna@localhost) by otto.oss.uswest.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id PAA06765 for isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:28:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from pmckenna) From: "Pete McKenna" Message-Id: <9806252028.ZM6763@otto.oss.uswest.net> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:28:49 +0000 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10apr95) To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI Drives Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >I've run into a problem with an ATX server's power supply where in case of > >power failure, the machine would not reboot without someone manually > >pushing the button on the front. The motherboard had no bios setting to > >avoid this, and local service departments were not able to help other than > >to suggest a new mother board. >Yes, that is a problem. We sold some ATX machines to the local gas company >to do real-time flow control w/ QNX, until they realized they could not do >a remote reboot. We had to take back the machines. We had a similar, though fixable problem with our Tyan Tahoe boards. Fortunately there is a MB jumber to disable the momentary/pulse power switch. Now the server is always on once it is plugged in, and more importantly can be hard booted if need be with the remote power switch. -- Pete McKenna US WEST - !NTERACT Internet Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 25 15:56:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15865 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:56:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from luke.cpl.net (luke.cpl.net [209.150.92.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15654 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:54:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shawn@luke.cpl.net) Received: (from shawn@localhost) by luke.cpl.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA24126; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:56:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19980625155607.03452@cpl.net> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:56:07 -0700 From: Shawn Ramsey To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ET card problem? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We just setup a FreeBSD router(second one) today. It is working fine except we'd like to fix something if possible... the "from" address of the machine is the interface of the router card, as opposed to the NIC card. Is this by design, or is there a way to change it? Here is what ifconfig -a looks like : eth0: flags=51 mtu 1500 inet 209.150.92.198 --> 209.150.92.193 netmask 0xffffff00 eth1: flags=10 mtu 1500 eth2: flags=10 mtu 1500 eth3: flags=10 mtu 1500 ed2: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 209.150.92.72 netmask 0xffffffc0 broadcast 209.150.92.127 inet 209.203.66.17 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 209.203.66.31 ether 00:80:ad:b6:56:36 lp0: flags=8810 mtu 1500 tun0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 thanks.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 25 17:31:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA02041 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:31:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tinker.com (troll.tinker.com [204.214.7.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA02011 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:31:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kim@tinker.com) Received: by localhost (8.8.5/8.8.5) Received: by mail.tinker.com via smap (V2.0) id xma009168; Thu Jun 25 19:19:03 1998 Received: by localhost (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA22969 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 19:22:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: by localhost (NX5.67g/) id AA14173; Thu, 25 Jun 98 19:30:32 -0500 Message-Id: <9806260030.AA14173@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148) From: Kim Shrier Date: Thu, 25 Jun 98 19:30:31 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: CD-RW recomendations Reply-To: kim@tinker.com Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is anybody currently using a CD-RW under FreeBSD 2.2.6 that they like? Thanks, Kim Shrier kim@tinker.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 25 17:41:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA03127 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:41:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from trantor.galaxia.com (terminus.galaxia.com [204.255.210.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA03009 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 17:40:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dave@galaxia.com) Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by trantor.galaxia.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA05987; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:39:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dave@galaxia.com) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:39:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "David H. Brierley" To: Evren Yurtesen cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nonexistent In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > hello > I have set my users to not to have shell access by setting > their shell to /nonexistent I use wu-ftpd for ftp access... > but now it does not let people do ftp to server... > what should I do? > I did not want to give shell access to users because > of security reasons. What I do is to set the users shell to /usr/bin/passwd and then add /usr/bin/passwd to the /etc/shells file. The real key to whatever you do here is that the value in the shell field must be listed in /etc/shells or ftp will not work. The reason I use the passwd program is that it provides the users with a means of changing their password without requiring intervention by a staff member. Once the users realize that this means they can change their password to something that nobody else knows they tend to appreciate it. -- David H. Brierley dave@galaxia.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 25 19:06:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA14741 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 19:06:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from enya.hilink.com.au (enya.hilink.com.au [203.8.14.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA14638 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 19:06:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danny@enya.hilink.com.au) Received: from localhost (danny@localhost) by enya.hilink.com.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA29558; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:03:42 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from danny@enya.hilink.com.au) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:03:40 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Paul Stewart cc: Evren Yurtesen , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nonexistent In-Reply-To: <35925399.46400EF5@kawartha.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Paul Stewart wrote: > Somebody might be able to yell at me for this, but on several of our ftp > servers we use DATE as our shell and they can't get shell access. > Hopefully nobody is going to flame me over that...:) > > Make sure you add /bin/date to your /etc/shells file or it won't > show... If user ftp has no password, and it is not listed in /etc/ppp/ppp.deny and you are running PAP ppp logins on the same box, people will be able to get a ppp connection as user ftp. I fixed this between 2.2.2 and 2.2.5, and a FreeBSD security alert was announced at the time, although it did not describe the exploit. I think enough time has passed for the exploit to be mentioned. So... MAKE SURE USER 'ftp' HAS '*' IN THE PASSWORD FIELD :-) Danny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 25 20:33:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA24628 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:33:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA24613 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 20:33:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (jack@localhost) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id XAA04538; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:32:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:32:52 -0400 (EDT) From: jack To: Kim Shrier cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CD-RW recomendations In-Reply-To: <9806260030.AA14173@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Kim Shrier wrote: > Is anybody currently using a CD-RW under FreeBSD 2.2.6 that they like? Yeah, a Ricoh MP6200S -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null Mail from netcom.com blocked until they stop relaying SPAM -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 25 22:59:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA13749 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:59:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aniwa.sky (aniwa.actrix.gen.nz [203.96.56.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA13736 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 22:58:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by aniwa.sky (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA01790; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:57:49 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) X-Authentication-Warning: aniwa.sky: andrew owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:57:48 +1200 (NZST) From: Andrew McNaughton X-Sender: andrew@aniwa.sky Reply-To: andrew@squiz.co.nz To: Atipa cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI Drives In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Atipa wrote: > > > > Insist on ATX form factor, and a case that has (2) fans in addition to the > > > fan inside the PS. Our ATX Full Tower fits the bill, and has gobs of drive > > > space. The extra hieght will also aid in airflow and dissipation. > > > > I've run into a problem with an ATX server's power supply where in case of > > power failure, the machine would not reboot without someone manually > > pushing the button on the front. The motherboard had no bios setting to > > avoid this, and local service departments were not able to help other than > > to suggest a new mother board. > > Yes, that is a problem. We sold some ATX machines to the local gas company > to do real-time flow control w/ QNX, until they realized they could not do > a remote reboot. We had to take back the machines. > > > I ended up making up my own circuit to provide a signal pulse signal to > > the power supply triggered and powered off the standby power line. Works > > fine. > > Like a watchdog or what? I don't understand your trigger mechanism, unless > you NAND the power supply and MB power... I hooked this circuit up off the wires between the power supply and the motherboard ----------------------------------- Standby Power Line (+5 V) | | R1 | | |------------S1----------------- Reset (+5 V signal) | | | | R2 C1 | | | | ----------------------------------- Common (0 V) R1, R2 = resistors C1 = Capacitor S1 = Schmidt trigger (inverter with hysteresis). When power goes on, S1's input is low, so it's output is high. R1 charges C1. When the voltage threshold of S1 is reached, output drops. when power goes off, R2 discharges C1. R2 should be several times larger than R1 so that input to S1 goes close to 5V. It should be small enough that C1 discharges more quickly than the minimum length power interruption you expect. My circuit gave a pulse of about 0.1 second duration, which seems to be long enough. I forget the exact values of the components used. > > I'm curious to know how common this problem is and whether there's a more > > conventional solution to it? > > Well, a reboot causes the machine to shutdown completely, so a BIOS fix > would not work. There are some MBs that use a toggle switch instead of > intermittant, but the cases are based on intermittant (reset-type) powers. A motherboard could implement the same mechanism I did. I'm not sure if the bios gets to use the standby power, but if not, then a jumper could be used to enable the mechanism. > Kevin > Andrew McNaughton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 25 23:34:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA17348 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:34:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (root@gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com [207.113.159.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA17321 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:33:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gdonl@tsc.tdk.com) Received: from sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com (root@sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.191]) by gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA18879; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:33:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gdonl@tsc.tdk.com) Received: from salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.194]) by sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA01895; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gdonl@localhost) by salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA20538; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:33:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Lewis Message-Id: <199806260633.XAA20538@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:33:36 -0700 In-Reply-To: Andrew McNaughton "Re: Recommended SCSI Drives" (Jun 26, 5:57pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(3) 7/19/95) To: andrew@squiz.co.nz, Atipa Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI Drives Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Jun 26, 5:57pm, Andrew McNaughton wrote: } Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI Drives } } > > I've run into a problem with an ATX server's power supply where in case of } > > power failure, the machine would not reboot without someone manually } > > pushing the button on the front. The motherboard had no bios setting to } > > avoid this, and local service departments were not able to help other than } > > to suggest a new mother board. } > } I hooked this circuit up off the wires between the power supply and the } motherboard I did something even simpler. I snipped the control wire in the power cable and connected the end that goes to the power supply to one of the ground wires. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 25 23:59:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA19794 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:59:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from finland.ispro.net.tr (finland.ispro.net.tr [195.174.18.5] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA19789 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:59:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from localhost (yurtesen@localhost) by finland.ispro.net.tr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA06880; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:58:20 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:58:20 +0300 (EEST) From: Evren Yurtesen To: Ulf Zimmermann cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cisco3640-so-urgent In-Reply-To: <19980625131341.A24812@Alameda.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I made netmask 255.255.255.0 but it did not help any... my problem is the router tries to get rid of 195.174.18.1 why? +--------------------------------------------------------+ | Name : Evren Yurtesen - yurtesen@ispro.net.tr | | S-mail: Mithatpasa Cad. No:1079/13 35290 Guzelyali | | Home:+90-232-2857604 Work:+90-232-2463992 Izmir/TURKEY | +--------------------------------------------------------+ On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Ulf Zimmermann wrote: > On Thu, Jun 25, 1998 at 08:18:18PM +0300, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > > > > hello this is not exactly related with FreeBSD > > but I do not know any other list which I may send this question to > > if you know any cisco lists I would like to get their addresses > > thank you > > > > > > we own a cisco 3640 router. > > when we connect it to our local network, > > our server at 195.174.18.1 does not work... > > and also I have found out that cisco sometimes > > greplies to ping sequences as if it was 195.174.18.1 !... > > I am sending the configuration file attached... > > what is wrong??? > > > > Building configuration... > > > > Current configuration: > > ! > > version 11.2 > > no service udp-small-servers > > no service tcp-small-servers > > ! > > hostname guyana > > ! > > aaa new-model > > aaa authentication username-prompt "guyana2 login: " > > aaa authentication login vtymethod local > > aaa authentication login linmethod tacacs+ none > > aaa authentication ppp pppmethod if-needed tacacs+ none > > aaa authorization network tacacs+ none > > aaa accounting network start-stop tacacs+ > > enable password ###### > > ! > > username yurtesen password ################ > > username ard password ############### > > memory-size iomem 30 > > ip name-server 195.174.18.5 > > chat-script default "" AT&F1M0S0=1&C1&D3&H1&R2&B1&K1&M4&W0 OK > > ! > > controller E1 0/0 > > shutdown > > ! > > controller E1 0/1 > > shutdown > > ! > > interface Serial1/0 > > physical-layer async > > no ip address > > shutdown > > ! > > interface Serial1/1 > > physical-layer async > > no ip address > > shutdown > > ! > > interface Serial1/2 > > physical-layer async > > no ip address > > shutdown > > ! > > interface Serial1/3 > > physical-layer async > > no ip address > > shutdown > > ! > > interface Serial1/4 > > physical-layer async > > no ip address > > shutdown > > ! > > interface Serial1/5 > > physical-layer async > > no ip address > > shutdown > > ! > > interface Serial1/6 > > physical-layer async > > no ip address > > shutdown > > ! > > interface Serial1/7 > > physical-layer async > > no ip address > > shutdown > > ! > > interface Ethernet3/0 > > description connected to EthernetLAN > > ip address 195.174.18.254 255.255.0.0 > > Do you really have the whole 195.174 ? I kinda doub that. Which means > the netmask is wrong. > > > ! > > interface Serial3/0 > > description connected to Internet > > ip address 194.54.37.142 255.255.255.0 > > ip tcp header-compression passive > > no ip mroute-cache > > encapsulation ppp > > compress predictor > > ! > > interface Ethernet3/1 > > no ip address > > shutdown > > ! > > interface Group-Async1 > > description connected to async interface > > ip unnumbered Ethernet3/0 > > ip tcp header-compression passive > > encapsulation ppp > > async mode interactive > > peer default ip address pool Group-1 > > no cdp enable > > ppp reliable-link > > ppp authentication pap pppmethod > > group-range 65 96 > > ! > > router rip > > version 2 > > network 195.174.18.0 > > network 195.174.177.0 > > no auto-summary > > ! > > ip local pool Group-1 195.174.177.1 195.174.177.254 > > ip default-gateway 194.54.37.141 > > ip classless > > ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Serial3/0 > > tacacs-server host 195.174.18.5 > > tacacs-server key ##### > > ! > > line con 0 > > exec-timeout 0 0 > > password ############# > > line 33 40 > > line 65 96 > > session-timeout 20 > > autoselect during-login > > autoselect ppp > > script startup default > > script reset default > > login authentication linmethod > > modem answer-timeout 0 > > modem Dialin > > autocommand ppp > > speed 115200 > > flowcontrol hardware > > line aux 0 > > line vty 0 4 > > login authentication vtymethod > > ! > > end > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------+ > > | Name : Evren Yurtesen - yurtesen@ispro.net.tr | > > | S-mail: Mithatpasa Cad. No:1079/13 35290 Guzelyali | > > | Home:+90-232-2857604 Work:+90-232-2463992 Izmir/TURKEY | > > +--------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > -- > Ulf. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-769-2936 > Alameda Networks, Inc. | http://www.Alameda.net | Fax#: 510-521-5073 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 26 00:10:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA21124 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 00:10:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xwin.webweaver.net (xwin.webweaver.net [208.138.29.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA21111 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 00:10:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nicole@xwin.webweaver.net) Received: (from nicole@localhost) by xwin.webweaver.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id XAA25193; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:08:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nicole) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199806230246.WAA27147@bilver.magicnet.net> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 23:08:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicole Harrington To: Bill Vermillion Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI Drives Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id AAA21112 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 23-Jun-98 Bill Vermillion wisely wrote: > Recently Cassandra M. Perkins said: > >> For about a couple of years I have used Seagate Barracuta Drives. >> In that time, I had to get an inwarranty replacement for about 45% >> of the drives. I'm looking to purchase new drives and just wanted >> recommendations drives used by the list. I'm willing to settle for >> slower speeds (and possibly increased cost) for a highly reliable >> and robust drive. > > The Baracudda are robust and highly reliabe - if - make that a big > IIFF - you install them according to the spec sheets that show the > proper airflow direction and mounting instructions. > I agree I have found the Seagate drives to be much more reliable than quantum e speccialy. However you need to cool them well. Often a problem since most case manufacturer s don't seem to understand this or care. I use and reccomend cases from siliconrax. (www.siliconrax.com) Most of their c ases pull All of air across the hard drives via 3 large fans. One interesting thing is that I have been getting Barracuda drives that seem to be rebuilt but are being sold as new. Recently I have started to use their cheeta drives and they are quite nice but generate A LOT of heat. Nicole I agree I have found the Seagate drives to be much more reliable than q uantum. However you need to cool them well. Often a problem since most case manufacturer s don't seem to understand this or care. I use and reccomend cases from siliconrax. (www.siliconrax.com) Most of their c ases pull All of air across the hard drives via 3 large fans. One interesting thing is that I have been getting Barracuda drives that seem to be rebuit but are being sold as new. Recently I have started to use their cheeta drives and they are quite nice but generate A LOT of heat. Nicole > The DIRECTION of air flow is very important. There is an exact > diagram on Seagate's web page. > > Even Seagate says that if the drive is properly cooled the MTBF of > something like 500,000 hours should be reached. If it not cooled > properly drive life will be about 10,000 hours. > > This means that there should be no drive above them - or mounted in > the center of a 3.5 1/2 bay, and proper cooling. I have a client > who has 3 'cuddas in the their system - rock solid and faithful for > about 2+ years. However there are THREE cooling fans in the case > > Bill > > -- > bill@bilver.magicnet.net | bill@bilver.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message nicole@webweaver.net - http://www.webweaver.net/ webmistress@dangermouse.org - http://www.dangermouse.org/ ------------------------------------------------- -- Powered by Coka Cola and FreeBSD -- -- Stong enough for a man - But made for a Woman -- -- Microsoft: What bug would you like today? -- -- I tried an internal modem once, but it hurt when I walked -- --------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 26 00:19:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA22312 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 00:19:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.actrix.gen.nz (root@mail.actrix.gen.nz [203.96.16.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA22284 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 00:18:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (aniwa.actrix.gen.nz [203.96.56.186]) by mail.actrix.gen.nz (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA12775 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:18:29 +1200 (NZST) X-Sender: andrew@192.168.1.1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:21:25 +1200 To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: andrew@squiz.co.nz (Andrew McNaughton) Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI Drives Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 6:33 PM 26/6/98, Don Lewis wrote: >On Jun 26, 5:57pm, Andrew McNaughton wrote: >} Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI Drives >} >} > > I've run into a problem with an ATX server's power supply where in >case of >} > > power failure, the machine would not reboot without someone manually >} > > pushing the button on the front. The motherboard had no bios setting to >} > > avoid this, and local service departments were not able to help >other than >} > > to suggest a new mother board. >} > > >} I hooked this circuit up off the wires between the power supply and the >} motherboard > >I did something even simpler. I snipped the control wire in the power >cable and connected the end that goes to the power supply to one of the >ground wires. Interesting. I tried just holding the reset button on the front down, which resulted in the machine rebooting repeatedly. One of the tech's who looked at the machine said doing what you suggest didn't work, but I never tried it myself. Maybe I did it the hard way. Maybe it's dependent on the power supply. Dunno. Andrew +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Andrew McNaughton andrew@squiz.co.nz http://www.newsroom.co.nz Some of you know what the Perl slogan on Windows is, ... "It's a good thing there's more than one way to do it, because most of them don't work." -- Larry Wall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 26 00:22:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA22996 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 00:22:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from finland.ispro.net.tr (finland.ispro.net.tr [195.174.18.5] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA22858 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 00:21:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from localhost (yurtesen@localhost) by finland.ispro.net.tr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA07234 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:21:46 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:21:46 +0300 (EEST) From: Evren Yurtesen To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cisco3640-urgent! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hello, if you know somebody who may help me please forward this email to them... thank you very much for helping me :) Evren > > > we own a cisco 3640 router. > > > when we connect it to our local network, > > > our server at 195.174.18.1 does not work... > > > and also I have found out that cisco sometimes > > > greplies to ping sequences as if it was 195.174.18.1 !... > > > I am sending the configuration file attached... > > > what is wrong??? guyana#show arp Protocol Address Age (min) Hardware Addr Type Interface Internet 195.174.18.27 0 0080.48eb.ad32 ARPA Ethernet3/0 Internet 195.174.18.22 14 0020.1810.8613 ARPA Ethernet3/0 Internet 195.174.18.12 14 0020.182c.acde ARPA Ethernet3/0 Internet 195.174.18.5 7 00a0.c9c6.81b0 ARPA Ethernet3/0 Internet 195.174.18.4 0 0060.0850.adf8 ARPA Ethernet3/0 Internet 195.174.18.3 0 0020.1810.90e5 ARPA Ethernet3/0 Internet 195.174.18.2 28 0800.2082.cbed ARPA Ethernet3/0 Internet 195.174.18.1 0 Incomplete ARPA Internet 195.174.18.254 - 0010.7b07.8bd1 ARPA Ethernet3/0 guyana# guyana#show interfaces ethernet 3/0 Ethernet3/0 is up, line protocol is up Hardware is AmdP2, address is 0010.7b07.8bd1 (bia 0010.7b07.8bd1) Description: connected to EthernetLAN Internet address is 195.174.18.254/24 MTU 1500 bytes, BW 10000 Kbit, DLY 1000 usec, rely 255/255, load 1/255 Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set, keepalive set (10 sec) ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00 Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never Last clearing of "show interface" counters never Queueing strategy: fifo Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 12948 drops 5 minute input rate 35000 bits/sec, 13 packets/sec 5 minute output rate 38000 bits/sec, 16 packets/sec 294918 packets input, 175836506 bytes, 0 no buffer Received 2506 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort 0 input packets with dribble condition detected 285031 packets output, 69047335 bytes, 0 underruns 0 output errors, 204 collisions, 1 interface resets 0 babbles, 0 late collision, 457 deferred 0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out guyana# Serial3/0 is up, line protocol is up Hardware is QUICC Serial Description: connected to Internet Internet address is 194.54.37.142/24 MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1544 Kbit, DLY 20000 usec, rely 255/255, load 2/255 Encapsulation PPP, loopback not set, keepalive set (10 sec) LCP Open Listen: CDP Open: IPCP Last input 00:00:01, output 00:00:00, output hang never Last clearing of "show interface" counters never Input queue: 0/75/0 (size/max/drops); Total output drops: 0 Queueing strategy: weighted fair Output queue: 0/64/0 (size/threshold/drops) Conversations 0/38 (active/max active) Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated) 5 minute input rate 15000 bits/sec, 5 packets/sec 5 minute output rate 14000 bits/sec, 6 packets/sec 518834 packets input, 215331153 bytes, 0 no buffer Received 15 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles 4 input errors, 0 CRC, 3 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort 561026 packets output, 105940952 bytes, 0 underruns 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 8 interface resets 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out 4 carrier transitions DCD=up DSR=up DTR=up RTS=up CTS=up I sometimes get this message when I try to ping that ip 195.174.18.1 > 36 bytes from guyana.ispro.net.tr (195.174.18.254): Redirect Network(New > addr: 1 > 95.174.18.1) > Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst > 4 5 00 0054 5ef9 0 0000 fe 01 b24c 195.174.18.5 195.174.18.1 > > 36 bytes from guyana.ispro.net.tr (195.174.18.254): Redirect Network(New > addr: 1 > 95.174.18.1) > Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst > 4 5 00 0054 5f02 0 0000 fe 01 b243 195.174.18.5 195.174.18.1 > > 36 bytes from guyana.ispro.net.tr (195.174.18.254): Redirect Network(New > addr: 1 > 95.174.18.1) > Vr HL TOS Len ID Flg off TTL Pro cks Src Dst > 4 5 00 0054 5f07 0 0000 fe 01 b23e 195.174.18.5 195.174.18.1 > > > do you know what does this mean? > > > > > > > > > interface Ethernet3/0 > > > description connected to EthernetLAN > > > ip address 195.174.18.254 255.255.0.0 > > > > > > > > > Building configuration... > > > > > > Current configuration: > > > ! > > > version 11.2 > > > no service udp-small-servers > > > no service tcp-small-servers > > > ! > > > hostname guyana > > > ! > > > aaa new-model > > > aaa authentication username-prompt "guyana2 login: " > > > aaa authentication login vtymethod local > > > aaa authentication login linmethod tacacs+ none > > > aaa authentication ppp pppmethod if-needed tacacs+ none > > > aaa authorization network tacacs+ none > > > aaa accounting network start-stop tacacs+ > > > enable password ###### > > > ! > > > username yurtesen password ################ > > > username ard password ############### > > > memory-size iomem 30 > > > ip name-server 195.174.18.5 > > > chat-script default "" AT&F1M0S0=1&C1&D3&H1&R2&B1&K1&M4&W0 OK > > > ! > > > controller E1 0/0 > > > shutdown > > > ! > > > controller E1 0/1 > > > shutdown > > > ! > > > interface Serial1/0 > > > physical-layer async > > > no ip address > > > shutdown > > > ! > > > interface Serial1/1 > > > physical-layer async > > > no ip address > > > shutdown > > > ! > > > interface Serial1/2 > > > physical-layer async > > > no ip address > > > shutdown > > > ! > > > interface Serial1/3 > > > physical-layer async > > > no ip address > > > shutdown > > > ! > > > interface Serial1/4 > > > physical-layer async > > > no ip address > > > shutdown > > > ! > > > interface Serial1/5 > > > physical-layer async > > > no ip address > > > shutdown > > > ! > > > interface Serial1/6 > > > physical-layer async > > > no ip address > > > shutdown > > > ! > > > interface Serial1/7 > > > physical-layer async > > > no ip address > > > shutdown > > > ! > > > interface Ethernet3/0 > > > description connected to EthernetLAN > > > ip address 195.174.18.254 255.255.0.0 > > > ! > > > interface Serial3/0 > > > description connected to Internet > > > ip address 194.54.37.142 255.255.255.0 > > > ip tcp header-compression passive > > > no ip mroute-cache > > > encapsulation ppp > > > compress predictor > > > ! > > > interface Ethernet3/1 > > > no ip address > > > shutdown > > > ! > > > interface Group-Async1 > > > description connected to async interface > > > ip unnumbered Ethernet3/0 > > > ip tcp header-compression passive > > > encapsulation ppp > > > async mode interactive > > > peer default ip address pool Group-1 > > > no cdp enable > > > ppp reliable-link > > > ppp authentication pap pppmethod > > > group-range 65 96 > > > ! > > > router rip > > > version 2 > > > network 195.174.18.0 > > > network 195.174.177.0 > > > no auto-summary > > > ! > > > ip local pool Group-1 195.174.177.1 195.174.177.254 > > > ip default-gateway 194.54.37.141 > > > ip classless > > > ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Serial3/0 > > > tacacs-server host 195.174.18.5 > > > tacacs-server key ##### > > > ! > > > line con 0 > > > exec-timeout 0 0 > > > password ############# > > > line 33 40 > > > line 65 96 > > > session-timeout 20 > > > autoselect during-login > > > autoselect ppp > > > script startup default > > > script reset default > > > login authentication linmethod > > > modem answer-timeout 0 > > > modem Dialin > > > autocommand ppp > > > speed 115200 > > > flowcontrol hardware > > > line aux 0 > > > line vty 0 4 > > > login authentication vtymethod > > > ! > > > end To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 26 00:38:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA25484 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 00:38:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Gatekeeper.Alameda.net (ulf@gatekeeper.Alameda.net [207.90.181.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA25450 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 00:38:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ulf@Gatekeeper.Alameda.net) Received: by Gatekeeper.Alameda.net (8.9.0/8.8.6) id AAA22431; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 00:36:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19980626003649.A18021@Alameda.net> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 00:36:49 -0700 From: Ulf Zimmermann To: Evren Yurtesen Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cisco3640-so-urgent Reply-To: ulf@Alameda.net References: <19980625131341.A24812@Alameda.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Evren Yurtesen on Fri, Jun 26, 1998 at 09:58:20AM +0300 Organization: Alameda Networks, Inc. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jun 26, 1998 at 09:58:20AM +0300, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > I made netmask 255.255.255.0 > but it did not help any... > my problem is the router tries to get rid of 195.174.18.1 > why? Look what your proxy config is on the Cisco. It might try to do proxy-arp. > > +--------------------------------------------------------+ > | Name : Evren Yurtesen - yurtesen@ispro.net.tr | > | S-mail: Mithatpasa Cad. No:1079/13 35290 Guzelyali | > | Home:+90-232-2857604 Work:+90-232-2463992 Izmir/TURKEY | > +--------------------------------------------------------+ > > On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Ulf Zimmermann wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 25, 1998 at 08:18:18PM +0300, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > > > > > > hello this is not exactly related with FreeBSD > > > but I do not know any other list which I may send this question to > > > if you know any cisco lists I would like to get their addresses > > > thank you > > > > > > > > > we own a cisco 3640 router. > > > when we connect it to our local network, > > > our server at 195.174.18.1 does not work... > > > and also I have found out that cisco sometimes > > > greplies to ping sequences as if it was 195.174.18.1 !... > > > I am sending the configuration file attached... > > > what is wrong??? > > > > > > Building configuration... > > > > > > Current configuration: > > > ! > > > version 11.2 > > > no service udp-small-servers > > > no service tcp-small-servers > > > ! > > > hostname guyana > > > ! > > > aaa new-model > > > aaa authentication username-prompt "guyana2 login: " > > > aaa authentication login vtymethod local > > > aaa authentication login linmethod tacacs+ none > > > aaa authentication ppp pppmethod if-needed tacacs+ none > > > aaa authorization network tacacs+ none > > > aaa accounting network start-stop tacacs+ > > > enable password ###### > > > ! > > > username yurtesen password ################ > > > username ard password ############### > > > memory-size iomem 30 > > > ip name-server 195.174.18.5 > > > chat-script default "" AT&F1M0S0=1&C1&D3&H1&R2&B1&K1&M4&W0 OK > > > ! > > > controller E1 0/0 > > > shutdown > > > ! > > > controller E1 0/1 > > > shutdown > > > ! > > > interface Serial1/0 > > > physical-layer async > > > no ip address > > > shutdown > > > ! > > > interface Serial1/1 > > > physical-layer async > > > no ip address > > > shutdown > > > ! > > > interface Serial1/2 > > > physical-layer async > > > no ip address > > > shutdown > > > ! > > > interface Serial1/3 > > > physical-layer async > > > no ip address > > > shutdown > > > ! > > > interface Serial1/4 > > > physical-layer async > > > no ip address > > > shutdown > > > ! > > > interface Serial1/5 > > > physical-layer async > > > no ip address > > > shutdown > > > ! > > > interface Serial1/6 > > > physical-layer async > > > no ip address > > > shutdown > > > ! > > > interface Serial1/7 > > > physical-layer async > > > no ip address > > > shutdown > > > ! > > > interface Ethernet3/0 > > > description connected to EthernetLAN > > > ip address 195.174.18.254 255.255.0.0 > > > > Do you really have the whole 195.174 ? I kinda doub that. Which means > > the netmask is wrong. > > > > > ! > > > interface Serial3/0 > > > description connected to Internet > > > ip address 194.54.37.142 255.255.255.0 > > > ip tcp header-compression passive > > > no ip mroute-cache > > > encapsulation ppp > > > compress predictor > > > ! > > > interface Ethernet3/1 > > > no ip address > > > shutdown > > > ! > > > interface Group-Async1 > > > description connected to async interface > > > ip unnumbered Ethernet3/0 > > > ip tcp header-compression passive > > > encapsulation ppp > > > async mode interactive > > > peer default ip address pool Group-1 > > > no cdp enable > > > ppp reliable-link > > > ppp authentication pap pppmethod > > > group-range 65 96 > > > ! > > > router rip > > > version 2 > > > network 195.174.18.0 > > > network 195.174.177.0 > > > no auto-summary > > > ! > > > ip local pool Group-1 195.174.177.1 195.174.177.254 > > > ip default-gateway 194.54.37.141 > > > ip classless > > > ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Serial3/0 > > > tacacs-server host 195.174.18.5 > > > tacacs-server key ##### > > > ! > > > line con 0 > > > exec-timeout 0 0 > > > password ############# > > > line 33 40 > > > line 65 96 > > > session-timeout 20 > > > autoselect during-login > > > autoselect ppp > > > script startup default > > > script reset default > > > login authentication linmethod > > > modem answer-timeout 0 > > > modem Dialin > > > autocommand ppp > > > speed 115200 > > > flowcontrol hardware > > > line aux 0 > > > line vty 0 4 > > > login authentication vtymethod > > > ! > > > end > > > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------+ > > > | Name : Evren Yurtesen - yurtesen@ispro.net.tr | > > > | S-mail: Mithatpasa Cad. No:1079/13 35290 Guzelyali | > > > | Home:+90-232-2857604 Work:+90-232-2463992 Izmir/TURKEY | > > > +--------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > -- > > Ulf. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-769-2936 > > Alameda Networks, Inc. | http://www.Alameda.net | Fax#: 510-521-5073 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > -- Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-769-2936 Alameda Networks, Inc. | http://www.Alameda.net | Fax#: 510-521-5073 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 26 02:15:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA06960 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 02:15:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from finland.ispro.net.tr (finland.ispro.net.tr [195.174.18.5] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA06888 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 02:14:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from localhost (yurtesen@localhost) by finland.ispro.net.tr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA09254 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:14:06 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:14:06 +0300 (EEST) From: Evren Yurtesen To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: user.db Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hello I have a serious problem I have a user.db file like baster.com.tr baster www.baster.com.tr baster I thought that all email which came to something@baster.com.tr or something@www.baster.com.tr will be forwarded to the account baster in my system... but when I send email to ali@baster.com.tr it forwards email to an account called ali how may I solve this problem??? also when they use my mail server at mail.ispro.net.tr they are having another problem they set their reply address to ali@baster.com.tr from their mail program but when they send email through our server the recipient sees the address as ali@ispro.net.tr thank you... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 26 04:26:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA22489 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 04:26:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ultra1.dreamscape.com (ultra1.dreamscape.com [206.64.128.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA22484 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 04:26:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swilson@mail.dreamscape.com) Received: from default (sA1-d21.dreamscape.com [206.114.185.246]) by ultra1.dreamscape.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id HAA07700 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 07:26:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199806261126.HAA07700@ultra1.dreamscape.com> From: "swilson" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 07:25:23 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: unsubscribe In-reply-to: <19980626003649.A18021@Alameda.net> References: ; from Evren Yurtesen on Fri, Jun 26, 1998 at 09:58:20AM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 26 06:40:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA07241 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 06:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.pipeline.ch (freefall.pipeline.ch [195.134.128.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA07115 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 06:38:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andre@pipeline.ch) Received: from pipeline.ch ([195.134.128.41]) by freefall.pipeline.ch (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA316 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 15:37:43 +0200 Message-ID: <3593A42A.6241BDF1@pipeline.ch> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 15:37:46 +0200 From: "IBS / Andre Oppermann" Organization: Internet Business Solutions Ltd. (AG) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Homedir 'hiding' Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We give our customers at the moment only chrooted ftp access (ftpd with internal LS) to their www-homedirs. Some users however ask for telnet access. The problem we have is that if someone logs in that person can see all homedirectories of other customers. The user with telnet access has an own group but can still see the other homedirs but not enter them (no permission of course). My question is now: what can I do that the telnet users cant see the other homedirs (don't tell me 'rm -R *' ;-)). PS: I have tried to set the permissions to drwx------ but it is still visible with ls. -- Andre Oppermann CEO / Geschaeftsfuehrer Internet Business Solutions Ltd. (AG) Hardstrasse 235, 8005 Zurich, Switzerland Fon +41 1 277 75 75 / Fax +41 1 277 75 77 http://www.pipeline.ch ibs@pipeline.ch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 26 07:05:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA10797 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 07:05:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from artorius.sunflower.com (artorius.sunflower.com [24.124.0.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA10758 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 07:05:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd-isp@artorius.sunflower.com) Received: from artorius.sunflower.com (artorius.sunflower.com [24.124.0.6]) by artorius.sunflower.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA04012; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:05:05 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bsd-isp@artorius.sunflower.com) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:05:05 -0500 (CDT) From: "Stephen D. Spencer" To: IBS / Andre Oppermann cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Homedir 'hiding' In-Reply-To: <3593A42A.6241BDF1@pipeline.ch> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, IBS / Andre Oppermann wrote: > We give our customers at the moment only chrooted ftp access (ftpd > with internal LS) to their www-homedirs. Some users however ask for > telnet access. > > The problem we have is that if someone logs in that person can see > all homedirectories of other customers. The user with telnet access > has an own group but can still see the other homedirs but not enter > them (no permission of course). > [...] Hmmm... well, IMHO, if you are trying to chroot them into their directory there is no point in giving them telnet access. Fortunately, the company I work for didn't start out giving out shell accounts. My experience is that if you give it, it's hard to take away :) A non-technical answer to a technical question... but what the heck... Regards, Stephen --------------------------------------------------------------------- - Stephen Spencer finger gladiatr@artorius.sunflower.com for - - administrator PGP key. - - Sunflower Datavision http://www.sunflower.com - --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 26 07:05:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA10822 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 07:05:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from forbidden-donut.anet-stl.com (vmailer@forbidden-donut.anet-stl.com [209.83.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA10798 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 07:05:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doogie@forbidden-donut.anet-stl.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.anet-stl.com 127.0.0.1) by forbidden-donut.anet-stl.com (VMailer) via SMTP id 3C4A81908; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:05:17 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:05:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Young To: IBS / Andre Oppermann Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Homedir 'hiding' In-Reply-To: <3593A42A.6241BDF1@pipeline.ch> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Try 'chmod 711 /home'. This will allow you to cd into /home as a normal user, but 'ls' will return permission denied. Jason Young ANET Chief Network Engineer On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, IBS / Andre Oppermann wrote: > We give our customers at the moment only chrooted ftp access (ftpd > with internal LS) to their www-homedirs. Some users however ask for > telnet access. > > The problem we have is that if someone logs in that person can see > all homedirectories of other customers. The user with telnet access > has an own group but can still see the other homedirs but not enter > them (no permission of course). > > My question is now: what can I do that the telnet users cant see > the other homedirs (don't tell me 'rm -R *' ;-)). > > PS: I have tried to set the permissions to drwx------ but it is > still visible with ls. > > -- > Andre Oppermann > > CEO / Geschaeftsfuehrer > Internet Business Solutions Ltd. (AG) > Hardstrasse 235, 8005 Zurich, Switzerland > Fon +41 1 277 75 75 / Fax +41 1 277 75 77 > http://www.pipeline.ch ibs@pipeline.ch > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 26 07:20:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA13207 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 07:20:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from artorius.sunflower.com (artorius.sunflower.com [24.124.0.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA13135 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 07:20:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd-isp@artorius.sunflower.com) Received: from artorius.sunflower.com (artorius.sunflower.com [24.124.0.6]) by artorius.sunflower.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA04047; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:20:07 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from bsd-isp@artorius.sunflower.com) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:20:07 -0500 (CDT) From: "Stephen D. Spencer" To: Evren Yurtesen cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: user.db In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > [...] > baster.com.tr baster > www.baster.com.tr baster > > I thought that all email which came to > something@baster.com.tr or something@www.baster.com.tr > will be forwarded to the account baster in my system... > but when I send email to ali@baster.com.tr it forwards > email to an account called ali Ahh.. you are so close. if you add an @ to the beginning of each line it should work perfectly. > also when they use my mail server at mail.ispro.net.tr > they are having another problem they set their reply address to > ali@baster.com.tr from their mail program but when they send email > through our server the recipient sees the address as ali@ispro.net.tr I imagine that the sendmail.cf has DM=ispro.net.tr directive somewhere within. Hmmm... actually... damn... never never loan out your bat book :) There is also an option (whose syntax eludes me) that specifies envelope masquerading too. I didn't think either of these directives would cause a rewrite of the reply-to:, but it's a place to start. Regards, Stephen --------------------------------------------------------------------- - Stephen Spencer finger gladiatr@artorius.sunflower.com for - - administrator PGP key. - - Sunflower Datavision http://www.sunflower.com - --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 26 07:44:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA17409 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 07:44:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from niagara.int.sesol.dataphone.net (niagara.int.sesol.dataphone.net [194.23.94.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA17260 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 07:44:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mikael.hugo@dataphone.net) Received: by niagara.int.sesol.dataphone.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:49:48 +0200 Message-ID: From: Mikael Hugo To: "'IBS / Andre Oppermann'" , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Homedir 'hiding' Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:49:44 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Try to 700 the parent directory (/home) -----Original Message----- From: IBS / Andre Oppermann [mailto:andre@pipeline.ch] Sent: Friday, June 26, 1998 3:38 PM To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Homedir 'hiding' We give our customers at the moment only chrooted ftp access (ftpd with internal LS) to their www-homedirs. Some users however ask for telnet access. The problem we have is that if someone logs in that person can see all homedirectories of other customers. The user with telnet access has an own group but can still see the other homedirs but not enter them (no permission of course). My question is now: what can I do that the telnet users cant see the other homedirs (don't tell me 'rm -R *' ;-)). PS: I have tried to set the permissions to drwx------ but it is still visible with ls. -- Andre Oppermann CEO / Geschaeftsfuehrer Internet Business Solutions Ltd. (AG) Hardstrasse 235, 8005 Zurich, Switzerland Fon +41 1 277 75 75 / Fax +41 1 277 75 77 http://www.pipeline.ch ibs@pipeline.ch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 26 08:50:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA28276 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:50:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ohio.river.org (river.org [209.24.233.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA28141 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:49:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dhawk@ohio.river.org) Received: (from dhawk@localhost) by ohio.river.org (8.8.8/8.7.3) id IAA29766; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:48:17 -0700 (PDT) From: David Hawkins Message-Id: <199806261548.IAA29766@ohio.river.org> Subject: Re: Homedir 'hiding' In-Reply-To: <3593A42A.6241BDF1@pipeline.ch> from IBS / Andre Oppermann at "Jun 26, 98 03:37:46 pm" To: andre@pipeline.ch (IBS / Andre Oppermann) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:48:17 -0700 (PDT) Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > My question is now: what can I do that the telnet users cant see > the other homedirs (don't tell me 'rm -R *' ;-)). If you don't want them to know the home directories exist then you're out of luck -- they're listed in /etc/passwd (or your YP maps, whatever). if you just want to fool 'ls' then go a level up and do chmod 711 . in other words, if home directories are off of /home then chmod 711 /home means ls /home won't work. later, david -- David Hawkins -- dhawk@river.org http://www.river.org/~dhawk "Excuse me, I have to use the toilet. Actually, I have to use the telephone, but I'm too embarrassed to say so." -- Dorothy Parker To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 26 09:26:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05785 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:26:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.beach.net (ns.beach.net [206.16.184.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05779 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:26:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@dpcsys.com) Received: from cafe6.primenet.com (booth-115-108.moscone.primenet.com [207.218.115.108]) by ns.beach.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA26083; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:26:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:25:22 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) From: Dan Busarow To: IBS / Andre Oppermann cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Homedir 'hiding' In-Reply-To: <3593A42A.6241BDF1@pipeline.ch> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: dan@java.dpcsys.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, IBS / Andre Oppermann wrote: > My question is now: what can I do that the telnet users cant see > the other homedirs (don't tell me 'rm -R *' ;-)). > > PS: I have tried to set the permissions to drwx------ but it is > still visible with ls. Set /usr/home to 711 Dan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 26 10:01:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10529 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:01:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from leaf.lumiere.net (j@leaf.lumiere.net [207.218.152.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10501 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:01:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j@lumiere.net) Received: from localhost (j@localhost) by leaf.lumiere.net (8.9.0/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA21229 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:01:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from j@lumiere.net) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:01:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Jesse To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI Drives In-Reply-To: <19980624211107.D12733@Alameda.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I just bought a Supermicro SC 750A case. It has 3 possible fans in the front, > 1 extra fan in the back, a temp controlled fan above the ATX cpu position > and 2 fans mounted on the side of the 6 5.25" HH slots. Very nice case, > has only one problem, they made the IO face plate opening not standard. > They included faces plates for the more common boards, but for the Intel > DK440LX not. And the face plate Intel gives, doesn't fit. Speaking of SuperMicro cases, has anyone had any experience with their SC801-A case? We're considering getting one of those with redundant HS power supplies. Particularly interested in other peoples' experiences in cooling them. Thanks. kkk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 26 10:45:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21722 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:45:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21598 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:44:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeff@mercury.jorsm.com) Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost) by mercury.jorsm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA05880; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:44:19 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:44:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeff Lynch To: Mikael Hugo cc: "'IBS / Andre Oppermann'" , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Homedir 'hiding' In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Mikael Hugo wrote: > Try to 700 the parent directory (/home) If you turn off read access to the world to home dirs, user "nobody", will not be able to read public_html to dish out their home pages. We opted to take away shell access by setting a date and notifying our customers of the reason for discontinuing. We only lost a few lusers who were problematic anyway, snooping around, running bots, hogging disk space, causing irc problems etc... We are much better for it. 80/20 rule rules! Just listing home dirs is not a problem, IMHO, they can get a list of users from the /etc/passwd file anyway. ========================================================================= Jeffrey A. Lynch JORSM Internet email: jeff@jorsm.com Northwest Indiana's Full-Service Provider Voice: (219)322-2180 927 Sheffield Avenue, Dyer, IN 46311 Autoresponse: info@jorsm.com http://www.jorsm.com > > We give our customers at the moment only chrooted ftp access (ftpd with > internal LS) to their www-homedirs. Some users however ask for telnet > access. > > The problem we have is that if someone logs in that person can see all > homedirectories of other customers. The user with telnet access has an > own group but can still see the other homedirs but not enter them (no > permission of course). > > My question is now: what can I do that the telnet users cant see > the other homedirs (don't tell me 'rm -R *' ;-)). > > PS: I have tried to set the permissions to drwx------ but it is > still visible with ls. > > -- > Andre Oppermann > > CEO / Geschaeftsfuehrer > Internet Business Solutions Ltd. (AG) > Hardstrasse 235, 8005 Zurich, Switzerland > Fon +41 1 277 75 75 / Fax +41 1 277 75 77 > http://www.pipeline.ch ibs@pipeline.ch > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 26 10:59:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25151 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:59:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from finland.ispro.net.tr (finland.ispro.net.tr [195.174.18.1] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA24287 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:56:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from localhost (yurtesen@localhost) by finland.ispro.net.tr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA00866; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 20:55:06 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 20:55:06 +0300 (EEST) From: Evren Yurtesen To: Ulf Zimmermann cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cisco3640-so-urgent In-Reply-To: <19980626003649.A18021@Alameda.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hello I have partially solved my problem... I have found out that router gives that 195.174.18.1 address to a user! I do not know why... I have set up pools right I guess... should I set it from tacacs server too? thank you +--------------------------------------------------------+ | Name : Evren Yurtesen - yurtesen@ispro.net.tr | | S-mail: Mithatpasa Cad. No:1079/13 35290 Guzelyali | | Home:+90-232-2857604 Work:+90-232-2463992 Izmir/TURKEY | +--------------------------------------------------------+ On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Ulf Zimmermann wrote: > On Fri, Jun 26, 1998 at 09:58:20AM +0300, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > > I made netmask 255.255.255.0 > > but it did not help any... > > my problem is the router tries to get rid of 195.174.18.1 > > why? > > Look what your proxy config is on the Cisco. It might try to do > proxy-arp. > > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------+ > > | Name : Evren Yurtesen - yurtesen@ispro.net.tr | > > | S-mail: Mithatpasa Cad. No:1079/13 35290 Guzelyali | > > | Home:+90-232-2857604 Work:+90-232-2463992 Izmir/TURKEY | > > +--------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Ulf Zimmermann wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Jun 25, 1998 at 08:18:18PM +0300, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > > > > > > > > hello this is not exactly related with FreeBSD > > > > but I do not know any other list which I may send this question to > > > > if you know any cisco lists I would like to get their addresses > > > > thank you > > > > > > > > > > > > we own a cisco 3640 router. > > > > when we connect it to our local network, > > > > our server at 195.174.18.1 does not work... > > > > and also I have found out that cisco sometimes > > > > greplies to ping sequences as if it was 195.174.18.1 !... > > > > I am sending the configuration file attached... > > > > what is wrong??? > > > > > > > > Building configuration... > > > > > > > > Current configuration: > > > > ! > > > > version 11.2 > > > > no service udp-small-servers > > > > no service tcp-small-servers > > > > ! > > > > hostname guyana > > > > ! > > > > aaa new-model > > > > aaa authentication username-prompt "guyana2 login: " > > > > aaa authentication login vtymethod local > > > > aaa authentication login linmethod tacacs+ none > > > > aaa authentication ppp pppmethod if-needed tacacs+ none > > > > aaa authorization network tacacs+ none > > > > aaa accounting network start-stop tacacs+ > > > > enable password ###### > > > > ! > > > > username yurtesen password ################ > > > > username ard password ############### > > > > memory-size iomem 30 > > > > ip name-server 195.174.18.5 > > > > chat-script default "" AT&F1M0S0=1&C1&D3&H1&R2&B1&K1&M4&W0 OK > > > > ! > > > > controller E1 0/0 > > > > shutdown > > > > ! > > > > controller E1 0/1 > > > > shutdown > > > > ! > > > > interface Serial1/0 > > > > physical-layer async > > > > no ip address > > > > shutdown > > > > ! > > > > interface Serial1/1 > > > > physical-layer async > > > > no ip address > > > > shutdown > > > > ! > > > > interface Serial1/2 > > > > physical-layer async > > > > no ip address > > > > shutdown > > > > ! > > > > interface Serial1/3 > > > > physical-layer async > > > > no ip address > > > > shutdown > > > > ! > > > > interface Serial1/4 > > > > physical-layer async > > > > no ip address > > > > shutdown > > > > ! > > > > interface Serial1/5 > > > > physical-layer async > > > > no ip address > > > > shutdown > > > > ! > > > > interface Serial1/6 > > > > physical-layer async > > > > no ip address > > > > shutdown > > > > ! > > > > interface Serial1/7 > > > > physical-layer async > > > > no ip address > > > > shutdown > > > > ! > > > > interface Ethernet3/0 > > > > description connected to EthernetLAN > > > > ip address 195.174.18.254 255.255.0.0 > > > > > > Do you really have the whole 195.174 ? I kinda doub that. Which means > > > the netmask is wrong. > > > > > > > ! > > > > interface Serial3/0 > > > > description connected to Internet > > > > ip address 194.54.37.142 255.255.255.0 > > > > ip tcp header-compression passive > > > > no ip mroute-cache > > > > encapsulation ppp > > > > compress predictor > > > > ! > > > > interface Ethernet3/1 > > > > no ip address > > > > shutdown > > > > ! > > > > interface Group-Async1 > > > > description connected to async interface > > > > ip unnumbered Ethernet3/0 > > > > ip tcp header-compression passive > > > > encapsulation ppp > > > > async mode interactive > > > > peer default ip address pool Group-1 > > > > no cdp enable > > > > ppp reliable-link > > > > ppp authentication pap pppmethod > > > > group-range 65 96 > > > > ! > > > > router rip > > > > version 2 > > > > network 195.174.18.0 > > > > network 195.174.177.0 > > > > no auto-summary > > > > ! > > > > ip local pool Group-1 195.174.177.1 195.174.177.254 > > > > ip default-gateway 194.54.37.141 > > > > ip classless > > > > ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Serial3/0 > > > > tacacs-server host 195.174.18.5 > > > > tacacs-server key ##### > > > > ! > > > > line con 0 > > > > exec-timeout 0 0 > > > > password ############# > > > > line 33 40 > > > > line 65 96 > > > > session-timeout 20 > > > > autoselect during-login > > > > autoselect ppp > > > > script startup default > > > > script reset default > > > > login authentication linmethod > > > > modem answer-timeout 0 > > > > modem Dialin > > > > autocommand ppp > > > > speed 115200 > > > > flowcontrol hardware > > > > line aux 0 > > > > line vty 0 4 > > > > login authentication vtymethod > > > > ! > > > > end > > > > > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > | Name : Evren Yurtesen - yurtesen@ispro.net.tr | > > > > | S-mail: Mithatpasa Cad. No:1079/13 35290 Guzelyali | > > > > | Home:+90-232-2857604 Work:+90-232-2463992 Izmir/TURKEY | > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > > Ulf. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-769-2936 > > > Alameda Networks, Inc. | http://www.Alameda.net | Fax#: 510-521-5073 > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > -- > Ulf. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-769-2936 > Alameda Networks, Inc. | http://www.Alameda.net | Fax#: 510-521-5073 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 26 11:42:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05177 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:42:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.triax.com (postoffice@mail.triax.com [206.58.96.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05120 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:42:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joer@triax.com) Received: from joe.triax.com ([206.58.97.69]) by mail.triax.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 0-41958U5000L500S0) with SMTP id AAA26452 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:37:14 -0700 X-Sender: joer@mail.triax.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:41:55 -0700 To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Joe Read Subject: Apache 1.3 + SSLeay + FP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: <19980626183713.AAA26452@joe.triax.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does it exist, or can I get the source for each and compile it myself? Our NT ssl ticket is about to run out, and I'd like to renew it for Apache with SSLeay, but I need frontpage server extension support on it. Can someone give me some guidelines on how to work this? Thanks, Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 26 13:55:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29292 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 13:55:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29184 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 13:55:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Kurt@Boolean.Net) Received: from gypsy (mg128-241.ricochet.net [204.179.128.241]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.8.8/8.8.BEST) with SMTP id NAA21019 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 13:53:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806262053.NAA21019@proxy4.ba.best.com> X-Sender: boolean@shell17.ba.best.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 13:44:00 -0700 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Kurt D. Zeilenga" Subject: Colocation facility in SFbay Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Folks, I'm looking at colocation facilities in the SF Bay Area (SF to SJ). My basic needs: Affordable low charge per server/space/environment reasonable bandwidth charges reliable, well connected provider Growth ability could mushroom (I hope :-) Initially, I am talking about only 2 servers initially, with additional 2 within 3 months. Might fit into one rack. Looking at starting at lowest bandwidth rung and climbing up as needed. The low per server charge is important as we're planning on using many small servers (instead of a few huge beasts). Looking for recommendations, suggestions, horror stories, etc.? Thanks, Kurt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 26 15:04:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14887 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 15:04:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14763 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 15:03:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cassy@loop.com) Received: from patty.loop.com (patty-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.69]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA26780 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 15:01:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cassy@loop.com) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 15:00:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "Cassandra M. Perkins" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI Drives (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I will look into different case options. The case I currently use is a 2ft tower that holds five to six drives but doesn't provide ventilation necessary for the seagate drives, which seems to run hotter. On 23-Jun-98 Bill Vermillion wisely wrote: > Recently Cassandra M. Perkins said: > >> For about a couple of years I have used Seagate Barracuta Drives. >> In that time, I had to get an inwarranty replacement for about 45% >> of the drives. I'm looking to purchase new drives and just wanted >> recommendations drives used by the list. I'm willing to settle for >> slower speeds (and possibly increased cost) for a highly reliable >> and robust drive. > > The Baracudda are robust and highly reliabe - if - make that a big > IIFF - you install them according to the spec sheets that show the > proper airflow direction and mounting instructions. > I agree I have found the Seagate drives to be much more reliable than quantum e speccialy. However you need to cool them well. Often a problem since most case manufacturer s don't seem to understand this or care. I use and reccomend cases from siliconrax. (www.siliconrax.com) Most of their c ases pull All of air across the hard drives via 3 large fans. One interesting thing is that I have been getting Barracuda drives that seem to be rebuilt but are being sold as new. Recently I have started to use their cheeta drives and they are quite nice but generate A LOT of heat. Nicole I agree I have found the Seagate drives to be much more reliable than q uantum. However you need to cool them well. Often a problem since most case manufacturer s don't seem to understand this or care. I use and reccomend cases from siliconrax. (www.siliconrax.com) Most of their c ases pull All of air across the hard drives via 3 large fans. One interesting thing is that I have been getting Barracuda drives that seem to be rebuit but are being sold as new. Recently I have started to use their cheeta drives and they are quite nice but generate A LOT of heat. Nicole > The DIRECTION of air flow is very important. There is an exact > diagram on Seagate's web page. > > Even Seagate says that if the drive is properly cooled the MTBF of > something like 500,000 hours should be reached. If it not cooled > properly drive life will be about 10,000 hours. > > This means that there should be no drive above them - or mounted in > the center of a 3.5 1/2 bay, and proper cooling. I have a client > who has 3 'cuddas in the their system - rock solid and faithful for > about 2+ years. However there are THREE cooling fans in the case > > Bill > > -- > bill@bilver.magicnet.net | bill@bilver.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message nicole@webweaver.net - http://www.webweaver.net/ webmistress@dangermouse.org - http://www.dangermouse.org/ ------------------------------------------------- -- Powered by Coka Cola and FreeBSD -- -- Stong enough for a man - But made for a Woman -- -- Microsoft: What bug would you like today? -- -- I tried an internal modem once, but it hurt when I walked -- --------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 26 16:03:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA21574 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:03:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bmccane.maxbaud.net (isdn-gateway1.maxbaud.net [208.155.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA21504 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:03:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@bmccane.maxbaud.net) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by bmccane.maxbaud.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA12524 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 18:03:04 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from root@bmccane.maxbaud.net) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 18:03:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Wm Brian McCane To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: inn-2.0 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings, I have installed INN 2.0 on my server machine. It seems to run quite well, except for one small problem. It is consuming about 2x as much CPU as 1.7.2 did. The feeds are roughly equivalent (except I am catching up for the day I wasted during the upgrade). But my bandwidth is finite, so I shouldn't be getting much more news than I was before. I am using it with traditional file storage at present, to support some legacy code I am running on this machine. I want to write a perl library to access "articles" inside a CNFS before I switch over (has anyone already done this). Anyway, is anyone else using 2.0? And if so, did you notice it beating hell out of your CPU? brian +-----------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ He rides a cycle of mighty days, and \ Wm Brian and Lori McCane represents the last great schizm among\ McCane Consulting the gods. Evil though he obviously is, \ root@bmccane.cavtech.com he is a mighty figure, this father of \ http://bmccane.cavtech.com/ my spirit, and I respect him as the sons \ http://bmccane.cavtech.com/~pictures/ of old did the fathers of their bodies. \ http://bmccane.cavtech.com/~bmccane/ Roger Zelazny - "Lord of Light" \ +-------------------------------------------+----------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 26 16:18:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA24127 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:18:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [207.217.224.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA23990 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:17:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [207.217.224.195]) by mail.westbend.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA10823; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 18:17:24 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <003601bda158$94082e40$c3e0d9cf@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "Joe Read" Cc: Subject: Re: Apache 1.3 + SSLeay + FP Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 18:17:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0518.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0518.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: Joe Read >Does it exist, or can I get the source for each and compile >it myself? Our NT ssl ticket is about to run out, and I'd >like to renew it for Apache with SSLeay, but I need frontpage >server extension support on it. > >Can someone give me some guidelines on how to work this? > I can help you with the FP part, as I am the maintainer of the apache-fp port, a version of the FrontPage module for Apache v1.3 is available from: http://www.westbend.net/~hetzels/apache-fp or ftp://www.westbend.net/pub/apache-fp Grab the apache-fp.130.b.tgz to get the apache13-fp port. As far as the port working with SSL, that hasn't been tested. I also read on comp.infosystems.www.server.unix that the SSL patch for Apache 1.3 isn't currently available, and will be out in a month or so. Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 26 16:27:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26328 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:27:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (daemon@smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.6.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26052; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:26:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr01.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA01964; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:26:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr01.primenet.com(206.165.6.201) via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpd001897; Fri Jun 26 16:26:08 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr01.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA23161; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:26:03 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199806262326.QAA23161@usr01.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Packet Engines - FreeBSD To: freelist@webweaver.net (Nicole Harrington) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 23:26:02 +0000 (GMT) Cc: opsys@mail.webspan.net, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Nicole Harrington" at Jun 25, 98 10:42:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Well I just bought 10 of them for my project at work. > One problem though, is that they are comming out with a new/better > card soon but the driver will not work with it yet. > > If anyone wants to see what I am working on, go to > http://www.webweaver.net/work > > I had been wanting to put togther a write up on them, but have been > too dman busy at work :< It says "ISPCHANNEL DESIGN". If this is a design for an ISP, I would *seriously* recommend including *seperate* internal and external DNS. This is because "best known practice" for SMTP mail delivery with a dynamic IP assignment to customers whose domains you are hosting *requires* this: Mail in: client | ISP | Internet | | | External DNS | mail to bob@client.com | | MX for client.com? | x.x.x.x MX client.com | <--------------- | | send it to x.x.x.x | | ----------------> | SMTP Server | here's the mail! | IP=x.x.x.x | <--------------- Mail retrieval: client | ISP | Internet | | | | connection... | | ----------------> | Livingston Portmaster | Your IP is y.y.y.y... | | ^ | <--------------- | v | | | Radius Server | | | | | y.y.y.y MX client.com | | v | | Internal DNS | | ^ | ETRN client.com | | | ----------------> | SMTP server | | IP=x.x.x.x | | | | connect to y.y.y.y | SMTP server | <--------------- | | here's mail, buddy! | | <--------------- | Thanks, buddy! | | ----------------> | | This allows an ISP to assign dynamic IP's (preserving the prescious static IP address assignments for his own machines and for clients who pay him (or her) lots of money and want to host their own servers (these are usually full time connections, anyway). You have to have a seperate internal server to allow you to prevent cached information from damaging your ability to correctly deliver the mail (ie: if someone cached that client.com's MX was y.y.y.y, and another customer dialed in and the IP was reassinged, that would be bad). Since sendmail does not cache DNS information, the act of the radiusd removeing the DDNS (Dynamic DNS) created MX in the internal DNS server is sufficient to resolve the "do ETRN and hang up, letting someone else get the IP address instead" problem that would result from cached data (I don't know what vmailer does, but qmail also does the right thing). A secondary advantage is that the link to the larger net can become damaged or go down, and many essential services can continue functioning transparently. POP3 retrieval is not sufficient, since envelope information is destroyed (unless you hack you smtp server to either ensure that the "Received:" timestamp always includes a "for" -- remove "m" from the local mailer falgs line -- or you add an "X-Envelope-To:" header). Even if the envelope information is not lost, the most popular program for doing this, "fetchmail" (from the paper "The Bizarre Cathedral") is too stupid to assign priority other than by order of occurrrance, and it always insists that the machine you are POPping from be treated as one of your MX's -- ie: you get bogus delivery if the SMTP server and the POP3 server are not the same machine, and the virtual domain to maildrop translation is done on the SMTP server. This is because the "Received:" timestamps "by hostname" portion matches, and the for is "for isp.maildrop" instead of the correct "for user@client.com". Much better to use ETRN (and save the maildrop and POP3 processing overhead at the same time) -- and with DDNS, it's possible to do this with dynamic IP assignment to your customers. (I'd just hate for such a large setup, like that depicted in youe diagram, to get mail wrong -- even though almost every ISP on the Internet tends to get mail wrong. Hell, *my* ISP's SMTP server stamps the wrong "by servername" on it; the "servername" is *supposed* to match my MX records, not their internal mythical name for their mail server on DNS rotor that happens to anser the SMTP port!) Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 26 17:51:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA11065 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:51:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailhub.ainet.com (mailhub.ainet.com [204.30.40.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA11048 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:51:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmscott@ainet.com) Received: from ainet.com (root@ainet.com [204.30.40.6]) by mailhub.ainet.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA03788; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:46:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmscott@ainet.com) Received: from perl.ainet.com by ainet.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06541; Fri, 26 Jun 98 17:52:02 PDT Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980626175339.00931e90@mail.ainet.com> X-Sender: jmscott@mail.ainet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:53:39 -0700 To: "Scot W. Hetzel" , "Joe Read" From: "Joseph M. Scott" Subject: Re: Apache 1.3 + SSLeay + FP Cc: In-Reply-To: <003601bda158$94082e40$c3e0d9cf@westbend.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'd like to put it my two bits to support the possibility of this happening. I've used the apache-fp port a little bit and it seemed to work well while I was looking at it. I'd love to see SSL become an option on this. Joseph Scott jmscott@ainet.com At 06:17 PM 6/26/98 -0500, Scot W. Hetzel wrote: >From: Joe Read >>Does it exist, or can I get the source for each and compile >>it myself? Our NT ssl ticket is about to run out, and I'd >>like to renew it for Apache with SSLeay, but I need frontpage >>server extension support on it. >> >>Can someone give me some guidelines on how to work this? >> >I can help you with the FP part, as I am the maintainer of the apache-fp >port, a version of the FrontPage module for Apache v1.3 is available from: > >http://www.westbend.net/~hetzels/apache-fp > >or > >ftp://www.westbend.net/pub/apache-fp > >Grab the apache-fp.130.b.tgz to get the apache13-fp port. > >As far as the port working with SSL, that hasn't been tested. I also read >on comp.infosystems.www.server.unix that the SSL patch for Apache 1.3 isn't >currently available, and will be out in a month or so. > >Scot > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 26 18:34:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA16544 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 18:34:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA16504 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 18:33:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cmccants@chaz.com) Received: from [38.254.242.10] (helo=iggy.chaz.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with smtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org id 0ypjrt-0004pW-00; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 21:33:29 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980626213328.0075af4c@mario.chaz.com> X-Sender: cmccants@mario.chaz.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 21:33:28 -0400 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Chaz Subject: Any Michigan ISP's out there? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a tax question I'd like to bounce off someone. Please reply via direct email, not to the list. Thanks, Chaz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 26 19:51:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA28471 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:51:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aniwa.sky (aniwa.actrix.gen.nz [203.96.56.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA28457 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:51:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by aniwa.sky (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA08062; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 07:41:36 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) X-Authentication-Warning: aniwa.sky: andrew owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 07:41:35 +1200 (NZST) From: Andrew McNaughton X-Sender: andrew@aniwa.sky Reply-To: andrew@squiz.co.nz To: Jeff Lynch cc: Mikael Hugo , "'IBS / Andre Oppermann'" , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Homedir 'hiding' In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Jeff Lynch wrote: > On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Mikael Hugo wrote: > > > Try to 700 the parent directory (/home) > > If you turn off read access to the world to home dirs, user "nobody", will > not be able to read public_html to dish out their home pages. chmod o=x /home chmod o=x /home/user chmod o=rx /home/user/public_html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 26 19:56:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA29133 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:56:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xwin.webweaver.net (xwin.webweaver.net [208.138.29.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA29117; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:56:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nicole@xwin.webweaver.net) Received: (from nicole@localhost) by xwin.webweaver.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id SAA27066; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 18:55:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nicole) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199806262326.QAA23161@usr01.primenet.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 18:55:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicole Harrington To: Terry Lambert Subject: Re: Packet Engines - FreeBSD Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, opsys@mail.webspan.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id TAA29118 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 26-Jun-98 Terry Lambert wisely wrote: >> Well I just bought 10 of them for my project at work. >> One problem though, is that they are comming out with a new/better >> card soon but the driver will not work with it yet. >> >> If anyone wants to see what I am working on, go to >> http://www.webweaver.net/work >> >> I had been wanting to put togther a write up on them, but have been >> too dman busy at work :< > > > It says "ISPCHANNEL DESIGN". > Yes, for www.ispchannel.com Cable modems! > If this is a design for an ISP, I would *seriously* recommend including > *seperate* internal and external DNS. > > This is because "best known practice" for SMTP mail delivery with a > dynamic IP assignment to customers whose domains you are hosting > *requires* this: > > > This allows an ISP to assign dynamic IP's (preserving the prescious > static IP address assignments for his own machines and for clients > who pay him (or her) lots of money and want to host their own servers > (these are usually full time connections, anyway). > > You have to have a seperate internal server to allow you to prevent > cached information from damaging your ability to correctly deliver > the mail (ie: if someone cached that client.com's MX was y.y.y.y, and > another customer dialed in and the IP was reassinged, that would be > bad). > I have looked over what you have sent and Thanks! However I don't belive that this will apply to what we are doing since.. A: Our DNS server has a set fwd and rev address for each address. B: No one is allowed to use a domain name without having a dedicated connection. At least I belive that is what you are saying must be needed to prevent the pro blems you describe. I could be Way Off.. Please let me know if I am. ( It's late Friday.. hello hello.. come in Brain...) Also, I have designed a Mailserver to run at MX35 to act as a FAILover with a l arge que storage if I need to take take the mail system offline or the RAID syst em dies somehow or things just get too busy. It also acts as the MX35 for clients who want to run mail at their site. Just to mention, I am using Qmail with Maildir delivery to overcome the fi le locking problems of sendmail across an NFS link. It also is great for hosting a bunch of domains. Later, after it is all assembled I hope to write up what makes it tick and shar e it with everyone here. The setup is ALL FreeBSD except for the DHCP servers ( If only FreeBSD could run Sun/Solaris Binaries) and of course the Netapp device s. Also the drawing needs to be updated since my budget got cut and I needed to scale back a bit on the news system and virtual and ~ customers will stay on the same servers. All the servers are: 400 MHZ pent II's with 128 or 256 Megs mem Abit BX MB S3 video Intel Ether express Ethernet OR Packetengines G-Nic cards DPT 3334UW RAID cards with 32MB Simm 2 Seegate cheeta drives in Mirror Siliconrax cases Hovered around Network Appliance F630 File servers via the Packetengines GB HUB. So far it looks like... Webservice: apache 1.3 Virt FTP: ncftpd FTP: wu FTP Mail: Qmail and tcpd News: Dnews (for now - It works great and I think I can get up to 1000 users on a big box - had to save money somewhere) Transparent/reverse proxy: Squid Nicole > Since sendmail does not cache DNS information, the act of the radiusd > removeing the DDNS (Dynamic DNS) created MX in the internal DNS server > is sufficient to resolve the "do ETRN and hang up, letting someone > else get the IP address instead" problem that would result from cached > data (I don't know what vmailer does, but qmail also does the right > thing). > > A secondary advantage is that the link to the larger net can become > damaged or go down, and many essential services can continue functioning > transparently. > > POP3 retrieval is not sufficient, since envelope information is > destroyed (unless you hack you smtp server to either ensure that the > "Received:" timestamp always includes a "for" -- remove "m" from the > local mailer falgs line -- or you add an "X-Envelope-To:" header). > > Even if the envelope information is not lost, the most popular program > for doing this, "fetchmail" (from the paper "The Bizarre Cathedral") > is too stupid to assign priority other than by order of occurrrance, > and it always insists that the machine you are POPping from be > treated as one of your MX's -- ie: you get bogus delivery if the > SMTP server and the POP3 server are not the same machine, and the > virtual domain to maildrop translation is done on the SMTP server. > This is because the "Received:" timestamps "by hostname" portion > matches, and the for is "for isp.maildrop" instead of the correct > "for user@client.com". > > Much better to use ETRN (and save the maildrop and POP3 processing > overhead at the same time) -- and with DDNS, it's possible to do this > with dynamic IP assignment to your customers. > > > (I'd just hate for such a large setup, like that depicted in youe > diagram, to get mail wrong -- even though almost every ISP on the > Internet tends to get mail wrong. Hell, *my* ISP's SMTP server > stamps the wrong "by servername" on it; the "servername" is *supposed* > to match my MX records, not their internal mythical name for their > mail server on DNS rotor that happens to anser the SMTP port!) > > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. nicole@webweaver.net - http://www.webweaver.net/ webmistress@dangermouse.org - http://www.dangermouse.org/ ------------------------------------------------- -- Powered by Coka Cola and FreeBSD -- -- Stong enough for a man - But made for a Woman -- -- Microsoft: What bug would you like today? -- -- I tried an internal modem once, but it hurt when I walked -- --------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 26 19:58:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA29525 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:58:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ultra1.dreamscape.com (ultra1.dreamscape.com [206.64.128.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA29520 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:58:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swilson@mail.dreamscape.com) Received: from default (sA10-p1.dreamscape.com [209.4.252.193]) by ultra1.dreamscape.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA26828 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 22:58:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199806270258.WAA26828@ultra1.dreamscape.com> From: "swilson" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 22:57:35 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: help In-reply-to: <3.0.1.32.19980626213328.0075af4c@mario.chaz.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hel me unsubscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 26 20:31:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA03400 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 20:31:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (daemon@smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.6.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA03394; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 20:31:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr04.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA13150; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 20:31:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr04.primenet.com(206.165.6.204) via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpd013091; Fri Jun 26 20:31:11 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr04.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA18358; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 20:31:06 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199806270331.UAA18358@usr04.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Packet Engines - FreeBSD To: freelist@webweaver.net (Nicole Harrington) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 03:31:06 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, opsys@mail.webspan.net In-Reply-To: from "Nicole Harrington" at Jun 26, 98 06:55:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > It says "ISPCHANNEL DESIGN". > > > Yes, for www.ispchannel.com Cable modems! Hey! So when are you going to be selling in Foster City, CA? 8-). > I have looked over what you have sent and Thanks! > However I don't belive that this will apply to what we are doing since.. > A: Our DNS server has a set fwd and rev address for each address. > B: No one is allowed to use a domain name without having a dedicated > connection. > > At least I belive that is what you are saying must be needed to prevent > the problems you describe. I could be Way Off.. Please let me know if I > am. ( It's late Friday.. hello hello.. come in Brain...) If by "B", you mean they are permanently assigned one of the IP addresses from your allocated block (ie: they have a static IP), then it's not a problem. For a lot of ISPs that "grew up" from small operations (which is most of them), there comes a point when the static IP's become too prescious; I have heard that Best Internet (www.best.com) is a heavy FreeBSD user that has gone this route; they recently stopped offering static IP's (but they haven't installed a DDNS soloution, yet), so they are pretty much cutting themselves out of the small business (ie: transiently connected business) market when the business outgrows 3 or 5 or however many POP3 maildrops and needs their own server. Or if they don't outgrow it, but they don't want their company mail going out to where they don't control before it comes back. DDNS buys you a large part of your address block back. > Also, I have designed a Mailserver to run at MX35 to act as a FAILover > with a large que storage if I need to take take the mail system offline > or the RAID system dies somehow or things just get too busy. It also > acts as the MX35 for clients who want to run mail at their site. If you get paranoid, you may want to locate a secondary DNS and failover server elsewhere, in case of net death. That won't be a problem until you have 30,000 customers (everyone should have such problems 8-)). > Just to mention, I am using Qmail with Maildir delivery to overcome the > file locking problems of sendmail across an NFS link. This is really more of a problem with the Mlocal mailer more than anything else, I think. Sendmail doesn't do final delivery itself. You could hack /usr/libexec/mail.local to use lock files rather easily. 8-). > The setup is ALL FreeBSD except for the DHCP servers (If only FreeBSD > could run Sun/Solaris Binaries) and of course the Netapp devices. Also > the drawing needs to be updated since my budget got cut and I needed to > scale back a bit on the news system and virtual and ~ customers will > stay on the same servers. What's wrong with the ISC DHCP on FreeBSD, that you need Sun/Solaris binaries? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 26 20:48:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA05050 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 20:48:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xwin.webweaver.net (xwin.webweaver.net [208.138.29.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA05044; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 20:48:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nicole@xwin.webweaver.net) Received: (from nicole@localhost) by xwin.webweaver.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id TAA27168; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:47:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nicole) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199806270331.UAA18358@usr04.primenet.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:47:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicole Harrington To: Terry Lambert Subject: Re: Packet Engines - FreeBSD Cc: opsys@mail.webspan.net, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id UAA05045 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 27-Jun-98 Terry Lambert wisely wrote: >> > It says "ISPCHANNEL DESIGN". >> > >> Yes, for www.ispchannel.com Cable modems! > > Hey! So when are you going to be selling in Foster City, CA? > Dunno.. I'm not that involved in that end... I belive the web page gives some i nfo about it. However if you are a TCI customer you are in @home territory :< >> At least I belive that is what you are saying must be needed to prevent >> the problems you describe. I could be Way Off.. Please let me know if I >> am. ( It's late Friday.. hello hello.. come in Brain...) > If by "B", you mean they are permanently assigned one of the IP > addresses from your allocated block (ie: they have a static IP), then > it's not a problem. Yes and No. The 2 way systems get a perminant IP. The dial back systems do not. However we will most likely Not be allowing people to run servers or domains via thier cable modem. It is still up in the air however. Altho, any user who has a domain they want to use They MUST have a fixed IP. > much cutting themselves out of the small business (ie: transiently > connected business) market when the business outgrows 3 or 5 or > however many POP3 maildrops and needs their own server. Or if they > don't outgrow it, but they don't want their company mail going out > to where they don't control before it comes back. DDNS buys you > a large part of your address block back. > Yes, we really just stay away from "transiently connected business" We have eno ugh perm connect customers now to deal with. > >> Also, I have designed a Mailserver to run at MX35 to act as a FAILover >> with a large que storage if I need to take take the mail system offline >> or the RAID system dies somehow or things just get too busy. It also >> acts as the MX35 for clients who want to run mail at their site. > > If you get paranoid, you may want to locate a secondary DNS and > failover server elsewhere, in case of net death. That won't be > a problem until you have 30,000 customers (everyone should have such > problems 8-)). > Yes I would like too. Altho we will have 2 T3's soon. One via MCI and the other via Sprint. > >> Just to mention, I am using Qmail with Maildir delivery to overcome the >> file locking problems of sendmail across an NFS link. > > This is really more of a problem with the Mlocal mailer more than > anything else, I think. Sendmail doesn't do final delivery itself. > You could hack /usr/libexec/mail.local to use lock files rather > easily. 8-). > Yes, however the idea of having 100K+ messages being appended to a usenames fil e just doesn't seem appealing. It is faster to just drop a file into a directory . > >> The setup is ALL FreeBSD except for the DHCP servers (If only FreeBSD >> could run Sun/Solaris Binaries) and of course the Netapp devices. Also >> the drawing needs to be updated since my budget got cut and I needed to >> scale back a bit on the news system and virtual and ~ customers will >> stay on the same servers. > > What's wrong with the ISC DHCP on FreeBSD, that you need Sun/Solaris > binaries? There are only 2 DHCP companies (That I know of) that adhere to the MCNS Cable modem standards. The one I want to switch too (since the one my boss chose to run on a NT machine keeps dying.. imagine that :> ) only come in HP UNIX and su n/solaris. Belive me.. If I could I would. But we are looking at having 100K+ users by nex t year with abt 100 cable sites banging away on the DHCP servers. I need somethi ng known to work for this application. Nicole nicole@webweaver.net - http://www.webweaver.net/ webmistress@dangermouse.org - http://www.dangermouse.org/ ------------------------------------------------- -- Powered by Coka Cola and FreeBSD -- -- Stong enough for a man - But made for a Woman -- -- Microsoft: What bug would you like today? -- -- I tried an internal modem once, but it hurt when I walked -- --------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 26 21:02:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA06537 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 21:02:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp02.primenet.com (daemon@smtp02.primenet.com [206.165.6.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA06440; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 21:01:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr04.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp02.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA13200; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 21:01:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr04.primenet.com(206.165.6.204) via SMTP by smtp02.primenet.com, id smtpd013133; Fri Jun 26 21:01:46 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr04.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA20393; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 21:01:43 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199806270401.VAA20393@usr04.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Packet Engines - FreeBSD To: freelist@webweaver.net (Nicole Harrington) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 04:01:43 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, opsys@mail.webspan.net, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Nicole Harrington" at Jun 26, 98 07:47:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Dunno.. I'm not that involved in that end... I belive the web page > gives some info about it. However if you are a TCI customer you are > in @home territory :< I'm afraid I am TCI-land. But of course, they don't have it yet, so I don't have cable TV (boycotting on general principles, I suppose, since they won't sell me Internet service or phone service, and I'm unwilling to sign yet another check per month; though I'm nearly convinced that TCI generates RF interference intentionally to make people buy cable. 8-)). > > If by "B", you mean they are permanently assigned one of the IP > > addresses from your allocated block (ie: they have a static IP), then > > it's not a problem. > > Yes and No. The 2 way systems get a perminant IP. The dial back systems > do not. However we will most likely Not be allowing people to run > servers or domains via thier cable modem. It is still up in the air > however. Altho, any user who has a domain they want to use They MUST > have a fixed IP. Well, for customer-bound mail traffic, it's not really a "server". For SPAMmers and for FTP/HTTP servers, I could see there being a problem. You could easily block that by firewalling HTTP/FTP packets without the response bit set. 8-). I expect you want them to pull data instead of pushing it. I know the @Home guys are > Yes, we really just stay away from "transiently connected business" We > have enough perm connect customers now to deal with. Easy decision to make with a cable modem, I suppose, where everything is basically on all the time. > Yes, however the idea of having 100K+ messages being appended to a > usenames file just doesn't seem appealing. It is faster to just drop a > file into a directory. The flip side is that it eats a lot of inodes when you uses your FS as a database. Overall, you will be able to fit more messages on a disk when you are eating a "from" line overhead instead of 128 bytes for an inode and an average of fragsize/2 bytes per message. More of an administrative issue than anything else. 8-). > > What's wrong with the ISC DHCP on FreeBSD, that you need Sun/Solaris > > binaries? > > There are only 2 DHCP companies (That I know of) that adhere to the > MCNS Cable modem standards. The one I want to switch too (since the > one my boss chose to run on a NT machine keeps dying.. imagine that > :> ) only come in HP UNIX and sun/solaris. Solaris x86, or Solaris/SPARC? > Belive me.. If I could I would. But we are looking at having 100K+ > users by next year with abt 100 cable sites banging away on the DHCP > servers. I need something known to work for this application. Makes sense; on the other hand, the ISC stuff is the reference implementation. I'd be surprised if it (or the WIDE stuff) didn't support all the standards. You might want to contact Vixie and ask him... Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 26 22:00:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA12254 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 22:00:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from x10.boston.juno.com (x10.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA12247 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 22:00:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from egravel@juno.com) Received: (from egravel@juno.com) by x10.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DGQPDHM2; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 00:59:25 EDT To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 21:40:24 -0700 Subject: Setting up Apache Message-ID: <19980626.220219.3542.0.egravel@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1,3,5,7-8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22-24,26,28-33 From: egravel@juno.com (Emmanuel Gravel) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've recently installed VBS, a web-based forum in Perl. I hadn't really set Apache up properly beforehand (it's my first attempt). I have two computers in network (one FreeBSD, the other Win95). They see each other without a problem, and I'm able to get the first index page as per Apache, through the server, without a problem. The problem is when I try and access any CGI script, no matter where they are. Before, I was getting an "access forbidden" error (fixed by changing the properties of the files and directories). The new error now is Error 500 Internal Server Error (talking about notifying the administrator about a problem in the configuration). I checked everywhere I could think of, in all three config files, but couldn't find anything that could help. I'm sure there's something I overlooked. The permissions are set to rwx for User (here user is root, of course), and rx for group and others. Or simply rw and r for non executables. I'm trying to make this work because I need to set up a web forum for a friend, and he needs it soon. The only way I can do it is by using a web server, and since I've got one, might as well use it! Thanks in advance! Manu _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 00:07:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA25612 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 00:07:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xwin.webweaver.net (xwin.webweaver.net [208.138.29.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA25594; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 00:06:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nicole@xwin.webweaver.net) Received: (from nicole@localhost) by xwin.webweaver.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id XAA27444; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 23:05:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nicole) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199806270401.VAA20393@usr04.primenet.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 23:05:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicole Harrington To: Terry Lambert Subject: Re: Packet Engines - FreeBSD + more Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, opsys@mail.webspan.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id AAA25595 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 27-Jun-98 Terry Lambert wisely wrote: > > Well, for customer-bound mail traffic, it's not really a "server". For > SPAMmers and for FTP/HTTP servers, I could see there being a problem. > You could easily block that by firewalling HTTP/FTP packets without > the response bit set. 8-). I expect you want them to pull data instead > of pushing it. I know the @Home guys are > Um... OK.. It's Late.. I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Are you revering to those spammers who look for people connected to the net with open smtp ports to spam to or from? What do you mean by "I expect you want them to pull data instead of pushing it? " >> Yes, however the idea of having 100K+ messages being appended to a >> usenames file just doesn't seem appealing. It is faster to just drop a >> file into a directory. > > The flip side is that it eats a lot of inodes when you uses your FS > as a database. Overall, you will be able to fit more messages on a > disk when you are eating a "from" line overhead instead of 128 bytes > for an inode and an average of fragsize/2 bytes per message. > More of an administrative issue than anything else. 8-). Yes everything is a trade off. I know there are ways to get around some of thes e things, however since we are (at least for the moment) offering shell accts, I needed something that I could use easily with them as well as pop3 for reading mail. Also, having the mail in the users directory makes space usage/quotas easier to manage for me. Speaking of which, I think you will like my directory scheme. Nicole = /home/1/n/nic/nicole terry = /home/2/t/ter/terry lambert = /home/3/l/lam/lambert home is the general mount point the first number is a random number generated during acct creation (1-3). the 2nd char is the 1st char of the username the 3rd char is the 1st 3 char of the username Then the user name. This makes adding another filer easy via the possible 1/2/3 mount points and I think 3 filers would be plenty for the forseable future, but more could easily b e added via a weighted random generator. This rest is to prevent too many users per directory. If you can think of any additions or alternatives, please let me know. > >> > What's wrong with the ISC DHCP on FreeBSD, that you need Sun/Solaris >> > binaries? >> >> There are only 2 DHCP companies (That I know of) that adhere to the >> MCNS Cable modem standards. The one I want to switch too (since the >> one my boss chose to run on a NT machine keeps dying.. imagine that >> :> ) only come in HP UNIX and sun/solaris. > > Solaris x86, or Solaris/SPARC? > They have both, but reccomend the sparc version. I also need to run the Netscap e calendering software. > >> Belive me.. If I could I would. But we are looking at having 100K+ >> users by next year with abt 100 cable sites banging away on the DHCP >> servers. I need something known to work for this application. > > Makes sense; on the other hand, the ISC stuff is the reference > implementation. I'd be surprised if it (or the WIDE stuff) didn't > support all the standards. You might want to contact Vixie and > ask him... > Hmm Yea but the other stuff has a nice pretty interface and has been used by ot her cable companies. Just like I have said about the needs of the FreeBSD pages , the bosses want to see who else is using it, etc etc. So, I could push it and if it works I'm OK. If it doesn't, I'm MUD. FreeBSD I know, trust and belive in enough to be able to say BAH! we don't need Xbrand comercial UNIX or Billy Bloa tware and feel safe. I will look deeper however. Thanks Nicole nicole@webweaver.net - http://www.webweaver.net/ webmistress@dangermouse.org - http://www.dangermouse.org/ ------------------------------------------------- -- Powered by Coka Cola and FreeBSD -- -- Stong enough for a man - But made for a Woman -- -- Microsoft: What bug would you like today? -- -- I tried an internal modem once, but it hurt when I walked -- --------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 00:34:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA00867 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 00:34:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from martini.office.cdsnet.net (martini.office.cdsnet.net [204.118.245.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA00851 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 00:34:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reich@martini.office.cdsnet.net) Received: (qmail 24319 invoked by uid 1000); 27 Jun 1998 07:37:28 -0000 Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 00:37:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Mahlon Smith X-Sender: reich@martini.cdsnet.net To: Emmanuel Gravel cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Setting up Apache In-Reply-To: <19980626.220219.3542.0.egravel@juno.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Do a 'whereis perl' on your system - make sure that the first line in your perl script matches it. i.e. #!/usr/bin/perl -w Another good thing to check is the perl script fromt he command line... it may be gibberish - or, it may give you a better clue as to what is happening. -Mahlon > The problem is when I try and access any CGI script, no matter where they > are. Before, > I was getting an "access forbidden" error (fixed by changing the > properties of the files > and directories). The new error now is Error 500 Internal Server Error > (talking about > notifying the administrator about a problem in the configuration). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 01:02:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA03660 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 01:02:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp01.primenet.com (daemon@smtp01.primenet.com [206.165.6.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA03630; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 01:02:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr08.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp01.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA25699; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 01:02:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr08.primenet.com(206.165.6.208) via SMTP by smtp01.primenet.com, id smtpd025697; Sat Jun 27 01:02:20 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr08.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA24158; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 01:02:15 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199806270802.BAA24158@usr08.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Packet Engines - FreeBSD + more To: freelist@webweaver.net (Nicole Harrington) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 08:02:15 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, opsys@mail.webspan.net In-Reply-To: from "Nicole Harrington" at Jun 26, 98 11:05:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Well, for customer-bound mail traffic, it's not really a "server". For > > SPAMmers and for FTP/HTTP servers, I could see there being a problem. > > You could easily block that by firewalling HTTP/FTP packets without > > the response bit set. 8-). I expect you want them to pull data instead > > of pushing it. I know the @Home guys are > > Um... OK.. It's Late.. I'm not sure I understand what you mean. > Are you revering to those spammers who look for people connected to > the net with open smtp ports to spam to or from? SPAMmers look for ISP's who don't stop them from sending SPAM, and for relay hosts otherwise. Either way, the packets coming from your customers to the Internet could be a problem for you. > What do you mean by "I expect you want them to pull data instead of > pushing it?" I expect that you have a small channel from the user to the Internet, and a big channel from the Internet to the user. Most cable-modem setups use ADSL, with a tiny channel for requests and a huge back channel for responses, on the theory that an FTP/HTTP "get" will result in a heck of a lot of data compared to the size of the request for the data... ie: "people get cable modems so they can suck stuff down faster". You're effectively a "content provider". A cable company offering Internet connectivity via cable-modem is generally doing so on the theory that people will be pulling data down from the Internet, not pushing data up to the Internet (ie: you expect the vast majority of them to run client software, not server software). If you want people to not be able to run HTTP or FTP or other TCP based servers, you can refuse connection requests going from the Internet to your customers machines. Connection requests will go up, and packets will come back from the server with the "response" bit set in the header. Connection packets that don't have the "response" bit in them are connections to your customer's machines from the Internet -- basically, unsolicited traffic in violation of the "don't run a server" policy. This is a typical CISCO configuration for corporate firewalls; it saves them having to set up proxies for their outbound connections (FTP, HTTP, etc.). As far as policies go, machine enforcement always works better than voluntary cooperation from humans. 8-). > Also, having the mail in the users directory makes space usage/quotas > easier to manage for me. > > Speaking of which, I think you will like my directory scheme. > Nicole = /home/1/n/nic/nicole > terry = /home/2/t/ter/terry > lambert = /home/3/l/lam/lambert Good thinking. A semi-b-tree to break up the directory entry space into smaller chunks so linear traversals don't take as long. 8-). > the first number is a random number generated during acct creation (1-3). > > If you can think of any additions or alternatives, please let me know. The only two that come to mind are: 1) "Keep a count and try to balance the tree at account creation time by making the first number choice a weighted value instead of a random number". 2) "Rebalance the tree from time to time by migrating accounts around. Just prebalancing the tree (per #1) is not enough, since accunts also have random duration, as well as random arrival times". > > Solaris x86, or Solaris/SPARC? > > They have both, but reccomend the sparc version. Is the x86 code statically or dynamically linked? > I also need to run the Netscape calendering software. Hmmmm... r e a l l y... I have LDAP schema's for the full Netscape calendering, per the Netscape published documentation on their Web Site. What I *don't* have is a way to test vs. a client, or knowledge of what the server does besides provide an LDAP repository (if it even does anything else). I was thinking that I'd write a calendering library for client interoperability, if I ever found someone who actually bought their server... I can send the netscape.at.conf and netscape.oc.conf files (which actually have my version of their entire schema set, not just the calendering) if you wanted to putter around. 8-). > Hmm Yea but the other stuff has a nice pretty interface and has been > used by other cable companies. Just like I have said about the needs > of the FreeBSD pages, the bosses want to see who else is using it, > etc etc. So, I could push it and if it works I'm OK. If it doesn't, > I'm MUD. FreeBSD I know, trust and belive in enough to be able to say > BAH! we don't need Xbrand comercial UNIX or Billy Bloatware and feel > safe. 8-). Yeah; did you see: http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~kirch/ ? > I will look deeper however. Yeah; don't take unnecessary risks; I was just thinking of the financial side of things... Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 01:17:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA05831 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 01:17:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from stingray.ivision.co.uk (stingray.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA05826 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 01:17:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from manar@ivision.co.uk) Received: from pretender.ivision.co.uk [194.112.52.202] by stingray.ivision.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.62 #2) id 0ypqAb-0001nu-00; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 09:17:13 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980627091555.00835990@stingray.ivision.co.uk> X-Sender: manarpop@stingray.ivision.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 09:15:55 +0100 To: egravel@juno.com (Emmanuel Gravel) From: Manar Hussain Subject: Re: Setting up Apache Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19980626.220219.3542.0.egravel@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As suggested - check the location of perl vs the 1st line of the scripts / run it from command line and see what happens. You should also keep an eye on the web server error logs (probably cd ../logs from the conf directory) which will be set up by something like: ErrorLog logs/error_log or ErrorLog /usr/httpd/logs/error_log in your httpd.conf file. The first would be considered relative to whatever you've set the "ServerRoot" to in the httpd.conf file. It also looks like you could really do with spending some time readin the apache docs (online at http://www.apache.org/docs/ or see http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi for mirror sites) Manar To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 05:18:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA06448 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 05:18:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shaw.fidalgo.net (root@shaw.fidalgo.net [206.129.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA06410; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 05:17:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from godsey@godsey.net) Received: from shaw.fidalgo.net (godsey@shaw.fidalgo.net [206.129.156.3]) by shaw.fidalgo.net (8.8.8/8.8) with SMTP id FAA18939; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 05:17:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 05:17:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Godsey X-Sender: godsey@shaw.fidalgo.net To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: !!! FLASH TRAFFIC !!! QPOPPER REMOTE ROOT EXPLOIT (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -- Jason Godsey - godsey@godsey.net - http://www.godsey.net/ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 00:58:24 -0400 From: Seth McGann To: BUGTRAQ@NETSPACE.ORG Subject: !!! FLASH TRAFFIC !!! QPOPPER REMOTE ROOT EXPLOIT Its come to my attention that systems around the internet are being exploited using a new remote overflow in Qualcomm's Popper server. Well, lets clear a few things up: 1. The working exploit was stolen from my development account, subsequently MANY sites were cracked in short order. Much of Efnet was compromised as power crazed script kiddies gained root access on IRCOP boxes, giving themselves O-lines. 2. This vulnerability effects FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and Solaris x86 so far. Other systems are most certainly vulnerable. Linux does not appear vulnerable. To test, simply send the sever several thousand characters and see if it crashed. Check the return address to see if it matches. 3. Due to massive exploitation the proper authorities have most likely been notified already. This is a bit of an emergency. 4. You will NOT get the "exploit" from me, don't ask. If you think your "eleet" enough, do it yourself. I admit I had some help, but it took a while to figure out. 5. The most obvious offender is the vsprintf() on line 66 of pop_msg.c. 6. If you have a problem with my style, I'm sorry. I'm angry at both myself and the members of #conflict who I hold directly responsible for this breach. I will not name names, the offenders know who they are. 7. When I have my head together I will post a patch tomorrow if one is not available by then. 8. For now, disable qpopper or choose another solution till qpopper is secured. Thank you. Seth M. McGann / smm@wpi.edu "Security is making it http://www.wpi.edu/~smm to the bathroom in time." KeyID: 2048/1024/E2501C80 Fingerprint 3344 DFA2 8E4A 977B 63A7 19E3 6AF7 4AE7 E250 1C80 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 07:24:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA16962 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 07:24:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from finland.ispro.net.tr (finland.ispro.net.tr [195.174.18.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA16908 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 07:23:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from localhost (yurtesen@localhost) by finland.ispro.net.tr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA16782; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 17:23:22 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 17:23:22 +0300 (EEST) From: Evren Yurtesen To: "Stephen D. Spencer" cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: user.db In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I added @ but it did not help any +--------------------------------------------------------+ | Name : Evren Yurtesen - yurtesen@ispro.net.tr | | S-mail: Mithatpasa Cad. No:1079/13 35290 Guzelyali | | Home:+90-232-2857604 Work:+90-232-2463992 Izmir/TURKEY | +--------------------------------------------------------+ On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Stephen D. Spencer wrote: > On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > > > [...] > > baster.com.tr baster > > www.baster.com.tr baster > > > > I thought that all email which came to > > something@baster.com.tr or something@www.baster.com.tr > > will be forwarded to the account baster in my system... > > but when I send email to ali@baster.com.tr it forwards > > email to an account called ali > > Ahh.. you are so close. if you add an @ to the beginning of each line it > should work perfectly. > > > also when they use my mail server at mail.ispro.net.tr > > they are having another problem they set their reply address to > > ali@baster.com.tr from their mail program but when they send email > > through our server the recipient sees the address as ali@ispro.net.tr > > I imagine that the sendmail.cf has DM=ispro.net.tr directive somewhere > within. Hmmm... actually... damn... never never loan out your bat book :) > There is also an option (whose syntax eludes me) that specifies envelope > masquerading too. I didn't think either of these directives would cause a > rewrite of the reply-to:, but it's a place to start. > > Regards, > Stephen > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Stephen Spencer finger gladiatr@artorius.sunflower.com for - > - administrator PGP key. - > - Sunflower Datavision http://www.sunflower.com - > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 07:43:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA18265 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 07:43:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from junior.apk.net (root@junior.apk.net [207.54.158.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA18245; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 07:43:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@krivis.com) Received: from carbon (as1-icg-29.apk.net [207.54.186.39]) by junior.apk.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA03422; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 10:42:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199806271442.KAA03422@junior.apk.net> From: "Stuart Krivis" Organization: Yoyodyne Propulsion Systems, Inc. To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, opsys@mail.webspan.net Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 10:38:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Packet Engines - FreeBSD + more Reply-to: stuart@krivis.com In-reply-to: References: <199806270401.VAA20393@usr04.primenet.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01a) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 26 Jun 98, at 23:05, Nicole Harrington wrote: > > Solaris x86, or Solaris/SPARC? > > > > They have both, but reccomend the sparc version. I also need to run the > Netscape calendering software. I'd recommend the SPARC version. And you can buy a SPARCstation 20 for a good price these days. -- Stuart Krivis stuart@krivis.com [Team APK] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 08:15:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA21102 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 08:15:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [207.217.224.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA21097 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 08:15:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [207.217.224.195]) by mail.westbend.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA15269 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 10:15:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <003701bda1de$73e45f40$c3e0d9cf@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: Subject: Re: Apache 1.3 + SSLeay + FP Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 10:15:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0518.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0518.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: Joseph M. Scott > I'd like to put it my two bits to support the possibility of this happening. I've used the apache-fp > port a little bit and it seemed to work well while I was looking at it. I'd love to see SSL become > an option on this. > According to what I had read on the www.apache-ssl.org archive, apparently the apache server likes to initialize compiled in modules twice, and the FrontPage Module was written to ignore the first initialization. But the SSL patch doesn't like being initialized twice, so apparently the creators of the patch decided to stop the apache server from initializing modules twice. This breaks the FrontPage module, as it expects to use the second initialization to enable the module. When compiling the FrontPage module as a DSO, the check for the first initialization had to be disabled, as the Apache 1.3 server only initializes DSO modules one time. With apache v1.3, and the FrontPage module compiled as a DSO, I see no problems of SSL + FP finally working together. Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 08:54:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA25132 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 08:54:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from magicnet.magicnet.net (root@magicnet.magicnet.net [204.96.116.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA25124 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 08:54:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@bilver.magicnet.net) Received: from bilver.magicnet.net (uucp@localhost) by magicnet.magicnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.8) with UUCP id LAA16016 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 11:54:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.magicnet.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) id LAA02817 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 11:42:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Vermillion Message-Id: <199806271542.LAA02817@bilver.magicnet.net> Subject: Re: Homedir 'hiding' In-Reply-To: from Jeff Lynch at "Jun 26, 98 12:44:18 pm" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 11:42:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Recently Jeff Lynch said: > On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Mikael Hugo wrote: > > > Try to 700 the parent directory (/home) > If you turn off read access to the world to home dirs, user > "nobody", will not be able to read public_html to dish out their > home pages. On a directory 'read' access means being able to list the directory. By having execute permission only on a directory you can read/execute files in that directory by specifying the path name to the file. If you type ls nothing happens. If you type ls /filename you will see the file. Wildcards don't work. The different uses of permission on directories vs files seems to confuse a great many people. Something that a lot of people don't seem to use/know/remember is that you can deny access to a group by changin the group permission to 0 - eg chmod 705 , and then changing the group owner to the group you wish to deny. i eg chown Then the owner and everybody WHO IS NOT IN BADGROUP can read/execute, but no one in BADGROUP will be able to access it. Permission are evaluated left to right - Owner, Group, Other. If you are in "badgroup" it won't let you in. Other - is only for those that DO NOT match owner or group. Bill -- bill@bilver.magicnet.net | bill@bilver.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 10:44:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06718 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 10:44:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06707 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 10:43:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeff@mercury.jorsm.com) Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost) by mercury.jorsm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA04131 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 12:43:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 12:43:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeff Lynch Reply-To: Jeff Lynch To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Homedir 'hiding' In-Reply-To: <199806271542.LAA02817@bilver.magicnet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, Bill Vermillion wrote: > > > > > Try to 700 the parent directory (/home) > > > If you turn off read access to the world to home dirs, user > > "nobody", will not be able to read public_html to dish out their > > home pages. > > On a directory 'read' access means being able to list the > directory. By having execute permission only on a directory you > can read/execute files in that directory by specifying the path > name to the file. If you type ls nothing happens. If you type > ls /filename you will see the file. Wildcards don't > work. I stand corrected. Also note that execute perms for other is required on: /home /home/username /home/username/public_html I seem to remember perms not working this well in my old ATT System V R3 days. Perhaps it's just old age setting in. Thanks for pointing it out. I just reset things on our end with: find /home -type d -path "/home/*/public_html" -exec chmod o-rw {} {}/.. \; And modified our home-brew newuser script to chmod 751 /home/$userdir /home/$userdir/public_html ========================================================================= Jeffrey A. Lynch JORSM Internet email: jeff@jorsm.com Northwest Indiana's Full-Service Provider Voice: (219)322-2180 927 Sheffield Avenue, Dyer, IN 46311 Autoresponse: info@jorsm.com http://www.jorsm.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 10:57:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08338 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 10:57:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from x10.boston.juno.com (x10.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08325 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 10:57:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from egravel@juno.com) Received: (from egravel@juno.com) by x10.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DGR3P7HM; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 13:54:12 EDT To: reich@internetcds.com Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG, manar@ivision.co.uk Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 10:54:55 -0700 Subject: Re: Setting up Apache Message-ID: <19980627.105659.3822.0.egravel@juno.com> References: X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-3,7,10-11,13-15,17-18,20,22,24-28,30-49 From: egravel@juno.com (Emmanuel Gravel) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks for your help. As per Manar's EMail, I also checked the error_log file. This one gave me more info, which I tried to correct, without success. These are the lines which indicated the trouble: Can't locate VBS.pl in @INC (@INC contains: ../../lib /usr/lib/perl5/i386-linux/5.00401 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl) at /home/httpd/cgi-bin/vbs/bin/admin/config.cgi line 26. [Thu Jun 25 19:17:49 1998] access to /home/httpd/cgi-bin/vbs/bin/admin/config.cgi failed for 127.0.0.1, reason: Premature end of script headers The above is written in two lines. This was the message I was recieving before changes. The only difference after the changes is this: Can't locate VBS.pl in @INC (@INC contains: /home/httpd/cgi-bin/vbs/lib [rest cut] I've checked, and the file is there... Any ideas why the server can't find the file? The server has access to all the dirs in there, so I wouldn't see why it can't find it... But it seems capable of running CGI scripts nonetheless. Perl is in the proper place, also. Thanks for your help! On Sat, 27 Jun 1998 00:37:28 -0700 (PDT) Mahlon Smith writes: >Do a >'whereis perl' >on your system - make sure that the first line in your perl script >matches it. > >i.e. >#!/usr/bin/perl -w > >Another good thing to check is the perl script fromt he command >line... >it may be gibberish - or, it may give you a better clue as to what is >happening. > >> The problem is when I try and access any CGI script, no matter where >> they are. Before, I was getting an "access forbidden" error (fixed >> by changing the properties of the files >> and directories). The new error now is Error 500 Internal Server >> Error (talking about >> notifying the administrator about a problem in the configuration). _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 11:01:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA08945 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 11:01:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA08937 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 11:01:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA17144; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 14:00:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 14:00:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Hovey To: Wm Brian McCane cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: inn-2.0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I noticed less cpu hit using CNFS - but I noted that the config defaults active to MMAP, and CNFS is all MMAP, and the whole things just sucked to impliment - I had to manually change config.data to not use MMAP, and had to go back to the trad file structure to get it to work. On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Wm Brian McCane wrote: > Greetings, > > I have installed INN 2.0 on my server machine. It seems to run > quite well, except for one small problem. It is consuming about 2x as > much CPU as 1.7.2 did. The feeds are roughly equivalent (except I am > catching up for the day I wasted during the upgrade). But my bandwidth is > finite, so I shouldn't be getting much more news than I was before. > I am using it with traditional file storage at present, to support some > legacy code I am running on this machine. I want to write a perl library > to access "articles" inside a CNFS before I switch over (has anyone > already done this). Anyway, is anyone else using 2.0? And if so, did you > notice it beating hell out of your CPU? > > brian > > +-----------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ > He rides a cycle of mighty days, and \ Wm Brian and Lori McCane > represents the last great schizm among\ McCane Consulting > the gods. Evil though he obviously is, \ root@bmccane.cavtech.com > he is a mighty figure, this father of \ http://bmccane.cavtech.com/ > my spirit, and I respect him as the sons \ http://bmccane.cavtech.com/~pictures/ > of old did the fathers of their bodies. \ http://bmccane.cavtech.com/~bmccane/ > Roger Zelazny - "Lord of Light" \ > +-------------------------------------------+----------------------------------+ > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Hovey Chief Network Administrator BuffNET More Than Just a Connection! ------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 11:18:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10613 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 11:18:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Gatekeeper.Alameda.net (ulf@gatekeeper.Alameda.net [207.90.181.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10604 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 11:18:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ulf@Gatekeeper.Alameda.net) Received: by Gatekeeper.Alameda.net (8.9.0/8.8.6) id LAA12626; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 11:18:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19980627111820.B12423@Alameda.net> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 11:18:20 -0700 From: Ulf Zimmermann To: Jesse , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI Drives Reply-To: ulf@Alameda.net References: <19980624211107.D12733@Alameda.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Jesse on Fri, Jun 26, 1998 at 10:01:35AM -0700 Organization: Alameda Networks, Inc. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jun 26, 1998 at 10:01:35AM -0700, Jesse wrote: > > > I just bought a Supermicro SC 750A case. It has 3 possible fans in the front, > > 1 extra fan in the back, a temp controlled fan above the ATX cpu position > > and 2 fans mounted on the side of the 6 5.25" HH slots. Very nice case, > > has only one problem, they made the IO face plate opening not standard. > > They included faces plates for the more common boards, but for the Intel > > DK440LX not. And the face plate Intel gives, doesn't fit. Followup, I wrote an email to support@supermicro.com and after about a week, I had an I/O face plate in the mail. -- Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-769-2936 Alameda Networks, Inc. | http://www.Alameda.net | Fax#: 510-521-5073 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 12:09:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15252 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 12:09:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xwin.webweaver.net (xwin.webweaver.net [208.138.29.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15246; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 12:09:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nicole@xwin.webweaver.net) Received: (from nicole@localhost) by xwin.webweaver.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA01179; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 11:08:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nicole) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199806270802.BAA24158@usr08.primenet.com> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 11:08:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicole Harrington To: Terry Lambert Subject: Re: Packet Engines - FreeBSD + more Cc: opsys@mail.webspan.net, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id MAA15248 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 27-Jun-98 Terry Lambert wisely wrote: > SPAMmers look for ISP's who don't stop them from sending SPAM, > and for relay hosts otherwise. Either way, the packets coming from > your customers to the Internet could be a problem for you. > > Oh Yea..We have already had problems with people sending spam from their cable connection as well as people thinking "cool, I have this nice fast connection to my house, I think I'll set up my own server" and set up an NT box or some Linux box. The next thing they know I have to call them to ask why odd things are hap pening from their connection. Only to learn that they have been hacked! This is a fun game, as there is nothing so dangerous as a clueless user with a T 1 to their house. >> What do you mean by "I expect you want them to pull data instead of >> pushing it?" > > I expect that you have a small channel from the user to the Internet, > and a big channel from the Internet to the user. Most cable-modem > setups use ADSL, with a tiny channel for requests and a huge back > channel for responses, on the theory that an FTP/HTTP "get" will > result in a heck of a lot of data compared to the size of the request > for the data... ie: "people get cable modems so they can suck stuff > down faster". Yes, depending on 1 way or 2 way systems and the QOS they buy. > If you want people to not be able to run HTTP or FTP or other TCP > based servers, you can refuse connection requests going from the > Internet to your customers machines. Connection requests will go > up, and packets will come back from the server with the "response" > bit set in the header. > Connection packets that don't have the "response" bit in them are > connections to your customer's machines from the Internet -- basically, > unsolicited traffic in violation of the "don't run a server" policy. > This is a typical CISCO configuration for corporate firewalls; it > saves them having to set up proxies for their outbound connections > (FTP, HTTP, etc.). > As far as policies go, machine enforcement always works better than > voluntary cooperation from humans. 8-). > This is a good idea I am going to make sure our new lead Networking person know s and thinks about this. Thanks :> >> Also, having the mail in the users directory makes space usage/quotas >> easier to manage for me. >> >> Speaking of which, I think you will like my directory scheme. >> Nicole = /home/1/n/nic/nicole >> terry = /home/2/t/ter/terry >> lambert = /home/3/l/lam/lambert > > Good thinking. A semi-b-tree to break up the directory entry space > into smaller chunks so linear traversals don't take as long. 8-). > Thanks! > >> the first number is a random number generated during acct creation (1-3). >> >> If you can think of any additions or alternatives, please let me know. > > The only two that come to mind are: > > 1) "Keep a count and try to balance the tree at account creation > time by making the first number choice a weighted value instead > of a random number". > Hmmm Yes, to make sure it stays even and random. > 2) "Rebalance the tree from time to time by migrating accounts > around. Just prebalancing the tree (per #1) is not enough, > since accunts also have random duration, as well as random > arrival times". > This is tricky however since this will affect those with web sites who hav e cgi-scripts that need to know where they are. But yes I need to think about ho w to make sure things stay balanaced. Hmmmm >> > Solaris x86, or Solaris/SPARC? >> >> They have both, but reccomend the sparc version. > > Is the x86 code statically or dynamically linked? Dunno.. how do I find out. Just calling them I guess :} >> I also need to run the Netscape calendering software. > > Hmmmm... r e a l l y... > > I have LDAP schema's for the full Netscape calendering, per the Netscape > published documentation on their Web Site. > > What I *don't* have is a way to test vs. a client, or knowledge of > what the server does besides provide an LDAP repository (if it even > does anything else). > > I was thinking that I'd write a calendering library for client > interoperability, if I ever found someone who actually bought their > server... > > I can send the netscape.at.conf and netscape.oc.conf files (which > actually have my version of their entire schema set, not just the > calendering) if you wanted to putter around. 8-). > Sure! I love to putter. I learn a lot that way. However I know nothing about LDAP. But the calendar software is for schedual ma nagement for the executypes to set up meetings. How does this work with LDAP? I am working on a new Intranet machine and the ONE thing they need/want (the ne tscape calendering) won't run on FreeBSD so I may have to run a SPARC for the w hole thing. BAH! >> Hmm Yea but the other stuff has a nice pretty interface and has been >> used by other cable companies. Just like I have said about the needs >> of the FreeBSD pages, the bosses want to see who else is using it, >> etc etc. So, I could push it and if it works I'm OK. If it doesn't, >> I'm MUD. FreeBSD I know, trust and belive in enough to be able to say >> BAH! we don't need Xbrand comercial UNIX or Billy Bloatware and feel >> safe. > > 8-). Yeah; did you see: http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~kirch/ ? > > No.. However I just read a bit of it and found it most amusing and true. I plan to read on.. Thanks >> I will look deeper however. > > Yeah; don't take unnecessary risks; I was just thinking of the > financial side of things... Yea it's a tough balance. Our new VP of technology is from Netscape so of cours e he would like to have us use Netscape stuff. Most of which does not run on Fre eBSD. So I had to present my case as to why FreeBSD and Apache etc.. is good for us instead of Netscape Suite etc etc etc ... So far I have been sucessfull in h aving us standardize on FreeBSD. After all, what's not to love :> Nicole nicole@webweaver.net - http://www.webweaver.net/ webmistress@dangermouse.org - http://www.dangermouse.org/ ------------------------------------------------- -- Powered by Coka Cola and FreeBSD -- -- Stong enough for a man - But made for a Woman -- -- Microsoft: What bug would you like today? -- -- I tried an internal modem once, but it hurt when I walked -- --------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 12:21:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA16507 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 12:21:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from echonyc.com (echonyc.com [198.67.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16501 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 12:20:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from benedict@echonyc.com) Received: from localhost (benedict@localhost) by echonyc.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA23600 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 15:20:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 15:20:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Snob Art Genre Reply-To: ben@rosengart.com To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: configuring tcp_wrapper Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm trying to configure tcp_wrapper to allow ftp access from the local network but nowhere else. I've read the hosts_access(5) man page, and written configuration files, but I'm not having any luck. Here's my ftpd line in inetd.conf: ftp stream tcp nowait root /usr/local/libexec/tcpd ftpd -l My hosts.allow is empty, and my hosts.deny reads as follows: #disallow ftp access ftpd: ALL EXCEPT 10.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 Yet I find that I can connect via ftp from a shell account at my ISP just as well as from the local network. I would greatly appreciate it if someone could tell me what I am doing wrong. Ben "You have your mind on computers, it seems." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 12:28:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA17198 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 12:28:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA17192 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 12:28:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA24044; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 15:28:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 15:28:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Hovey To: ben@rosengart.com cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: configuring tcp_wrapper In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, Snob Art Genre wrote: > I'm trying to configure tcp_wrapper to allow ftp access from the local > network but nowhere else. I've read the hosts_access(5) man page, and > written configuration files, but I'm not having any luck. > > Here's my ftpd line in inetd.conf: > > ftp stream tcp nowait root /usr/local/libexec/tcpd ftpd -l You ftpd deamon must be in the path you set for tcpd for the real programs > > My hosts.allow is empty, and my hosts.deny reads as follows: > > #disallow ftp access > ftpd: ALL EXCEPT 10.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 > You need to set host.deny to ALL then host.allow to 10.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 which ends up being deny all, but allow 10.0.0.0 etc connects. > Yet I find that I can connect via ftp from a shell account at my ISP > just as well as from the local network. > > I would greatly appreciate it if someone could tell me what I am doing > wrong. > > > Ben > > "You have your mind on computers, it seems." > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Hovey Chief Network Administrator BuffNET More Than Just a Connection! ------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 13:10:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA21582 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 13:10:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from planet-three.com (homer.duff-beer.com [194.207.51.241] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA21575 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 13:10:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scot@poptart.org) Received: from localhost (scot@localhost) by planet-three.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA27862; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:10:38 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from scot@poptart.org) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:10:37 +0100 (BST) From: Scot Elliott X-Sender: scot@planet-three.com To: Joe Read cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache 1.3 + SSLeay + FP In-Reply-To: <19980626183713.AAA26452@joe.triax.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've looked for the Apache 1.3 SSL patches on the maste site but the latest are for v1.6 unfortunately. Does anyone know if it's available yet? Ta. Scot On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Joe Read wrote: > Does it exist, or can I get the source for each and compile > it myself? Our NT ssl ticket is about to run out, and I'd > like to renew it for Apache with SSLeay, but I need frontpage > server extension support on it. > > Can someone give me some guidelines on how to work this? > > Thanks, > > Joe > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scot Elliott (scot@poptart.org, scot@cx) | Work: +44 (0)171 7046777 PGP fingerprint: FCAE9ED3A234FEB59F8C7F9DDD112D | Home: +44 (0)181 8961019 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Public key available by finger at: finger scot@poptart.org or at: http://www.poptart.org/pgpkey.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 13:49:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26556 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 13:49:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ultra1.dreamscape.com (ultra1.dreamscape.com [206.64.128.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26545 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 13:49:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swilson@mail.dreamscape.com) Received: from default (sA9-p11.dreamscape.com [207.198.13.203]) by ultra1.dreamscape.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA18721 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 16:48:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199806272048.QAA18721@ultra1.dreamscape.com> From: "swilson" To: Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 16:48:08 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Apache 1.3 + SSLeay + FP In-reply-to: <003701bda1de$73e45f40$c3e0d9cf@westbend.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 13:49:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26564 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 13:49:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ultra1.dreamscape.com (ultra1.dreamscape.com [206.64.128.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26548 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 13:49:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swilson@mail.dreamscape.com) Received: from default (sA9-p11.dreamscape.com [207.198.13.203]) by ultra1.dreamscape.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA18735 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 16:49:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199806272049.QAA18735@ultra1.dreamscape.com> From: "swilson" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 16:48:08 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: ssss In-reply-to: <199806271542.LAA02817@bilver.magicnet.net> References: from Jeff Lynch at "Jun 26, 98 12:44:18 pm" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ssss To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 13:49:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26590 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; 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Sat, 27 Jun 1998 13:49:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ultra1.dreamscape.com (ultra1.dreamscape.com [206.64.128.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26559 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 13:49:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swilson@mail.dreamscape.com) Received: from default (sA9-p11.dreamscape.com [207.198.13.203]) by ultra1.dreamscape.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA18727 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 16:49:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199806272049.QAA18727@ultra1.dreamscape.com> From: "swilson" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 16:48:08 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Packet Engines - FreeBSD + more In-reply-to: <199806271442.KAA03422@junior.apk.net> References: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 13:49:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26597 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 13:49:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ultra1.dreamscape.com (ultra1.dreamscape.com [206.64.128.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26572 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 13:49:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swilson@mail.dreamscape.com) Received: from default (sA9-p11.dreamscape.com [207.198.13.203]) by ultra1.dreamscape.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA18746 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 16:49:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199806272049.QAA18746@ultra1.dreamscape.com> From: "swilson" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 16:48:09 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Homedir 'hiding' References: <199806271542.LAA02817@bilver.magicnet.net> In-reply-to: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 12:43:55 -0500 (CDT) > From: Jeff Lynch > Reply-to: Jeff Lynch > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Homedir 'hiding' > On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, Bill Vermillion wrote: > > > > > > > Try to 700 the parent directory (/home) > > > > > If you turn off read access to the world to home dirs, user > > > "nobody", will not be able to read public_html to dish out their > > > home pages. > > > > On a directory 'read' access means being able to list the > > directory. By having execute permission only on a directory you > > can read/execute files in that directory by specifying the path > > name to the file. If you type ls nothing happens. If you type > > ls /filename you will see the file. Wildcards don't > > work. > > I stand corrected. Also note that execute perms for other is required > on: > /home > /home/username > /home/username/public_html > > I seem to remember perms not working this well in my old ATT > System V R3 days. Perhaps it's just old age setting in. Thanks for > pointing it out. I just reset things on our end with: > > find /home -type d -path "/home/*/public_html" -exec chmod o-rw {} {}/.. \; > > And modified our home-brew newuser script to > > chmod 751 /home/$userdir /home/$userdir/public_html > > ========================================================================= > Jeffrey A. Lynch JORSM Internet > email: jeff@jorsm.com Northwest Indiana's Full-Service Provider > Voice: (219)322-2180 927 Sheffield Avenue, Dyer, IN 46311 > Autoresponse: info@jorsm.com http://www.jorsm.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 14:19:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01917 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 14:19:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [207.217.224.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01908 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 14:19:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [207.217.224.195]) by mail.westbend.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA15974 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 16:19:50 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <005001bda211$51c12c80$c3e0d9cf@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: Subject: Re: Apache 1.3 + SSLeay + FP Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 16:18:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0518.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0518.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >I've looked for the Apache 1.3 SSL patches on the maste site but the >latest are for v1.6 unfortunately. Does anyone know if it's available >yet? > >Ta. > The author released it to the oxford site today, but apparently they haven't moved it into the proper directory. See www.apache-ssl.org for further info. Scot H. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 16:40:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA18008 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 16:40:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17989; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 16:40:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) id JAA24944; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 09:10:11 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19980628091010.O23035@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 09:10:10 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Jason Godsey , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: qpopper compromise (was: !!! FLASH TRAFFIC !!! QPOPPER REMOTE ROOT EXPLOIT (fwd)) References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Jason Godsey on Sat, Jun 27, 1998 at 05:17:48AM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Saturday, 27 June 1998 at 5:17:48 -0700, Jason Godsey wrote: > -- > Jason Godsey - godsey@godsey.net - http://www.godsey.net/ > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 00:58:24 -0400 > From: Seth McGann > To: BUGTRAQ@NETSPACE.ORG > Subject: !!! FLASH TRAFFIC !!! QPOPPER REMOTE ROOT EXPLOIT I nearly deleted this one because it looked like spam... > Its come to my attention that systems around the internet are being > exploited using a new remote overflow in Qualcomm's Popper server. Well, > lets clear a few things up: > > 1. The working exploit was stolen from my development account, > subsequently MANY sites were cracked in short order. Much of Efnet was > compromised as power crazed script kiddies gained root access on IRCOP > boxes, giving themselves O-lines. A fix has been committed to the port. Download it and rebuild the port if you're interested. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 17:44:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA24541 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 17:44:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.uninet.ee (ns.uninet.ee [194.204.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA24510; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 17:44:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from taavi@uninet.ee) Received: from localhost (taavi@localhost) by ns.uninet.ee (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA05239; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 03:45:22 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 03:45:22 +0300 (EEST) From: Taavi Talvik To: Greg Lehey cc: Jason Godsey , isp@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: qpopper compromise (was: !!! FLASH TRAFFIC !!! QPOPPER REMOTE ROOT EXPLOIT (fwd)) In-Reply-To: <19980628091010.O23035@freebie.lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, Greg Lehey wrote: > A fix has been committed to the port. Download it and rebuild the > port if you're interested. Only thing, popper built with latest patches (incl. patch-ag) dies with SIGSEGV on my box immediately when accessed.. This is on current approximately one month old. best regards, taavi ----------------------------------------------------------- Taavi Talvik | Internet: taavi@uninet.ee Unineti Andmeside AS | phone: +372 6405150 Ravala pst. 10-412 | fax: +372 6405151 EE0001, Tallinn, Estonia | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 17:46:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25170 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 17:46:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25128; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 17:46:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) id KAA27929; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 10:16:08 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19980628101607.T23035@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 10:16:07 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Taavi Talvik , Jordan Hubbard Cc: Jason Godsey , isp@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: qpopper compromise (was: !!! FLASH TRAFFIC !!! QPOPPER REMOTE ROOT EXPLOIT (fwd)) References: <19980628091010.O23035@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Taavi Talvik on Sun, Jun 28, 1998 at 03:45:22AM +0300 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday, 28 June 1998 at 3:45:22 +0300, Taavi Talvik wrote: > On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, Greg Lehey wrote: >> A fix has been committed to the port. Download it and rebuild the >> port if you're interested. > > Only thing, popper built with latest patches (incl. patch-ag) dies with > SIGSEGV on my box immediately when accessed.. > > This is on current approximately one month old. Well, at least it doens't compromise the system :-) I'm copying Jordan on this. He committed the patch. You did really load the port since my message, didn't you? Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 18:12:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA29568 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 18:12:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kjsl.com (Limpia.KJSL.COM [198.137.202.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA29538 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 18:12:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from javier@kjsl.com) Received: (from javier@localhost) by kjsl.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA08789; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 18:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 18:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806280112.SAA08789@kjsl.com> From: Javier Henderson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Kurt D. Zeilenga" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Colocation facility in SFbay In-Reply-To: <199806262053.NAA21019@proxy4.ba.best.com> References: <199806262053.NAA21019@proxy4.ba.best.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Kurt D. Zeilenga writes: > Folks, > > I'm looking at colocation facilities in the SF Bay Area (SF to SJ). > > My basic needs: > Affordable > low charge per server/space/environment > reasonable bandwidth charges > reliable, well connected provider > Growth ability > could mushroom (I hope :-) > > Initially, I am talking about only 2 servers initially, with additional 2 > within 3 months. Might fit into one rack. Looking at starting > at lowest bandwidth rung and climbing up as needed. The > low per server charge is important as we're planning on using > many small servers (instead of a few huge beasts). > > Looking for recommendations, suggestions, horror stories, etc.? Check out http://www.above.net/. We get our connectivity through them. Excellent reliability and peering. -jav To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 18:33:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA02070 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 18:33:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.cs.hku.hk (ns.cs.hku.hk [147.8.178.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA02060 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 18:33:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ctkwan@ns.cs.hku.hk) Received: from champion (champion.cs.hku.hk [147.8.177.11]) by ns.cs.hku.hk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA21492 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 09:34:07 +0800 (HKT) Received: by champion (4.1/S2.0-sunos4) id AA22442; Sun, 28 Jun 98 09:29:42 HKT Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 09:29:41 +0800 (HKT) From: Doug Kwan ~{9XUq5B~} To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: unsubscribe Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org unsubscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 19:10:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA07547 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 19:10:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lepton.nuc.net (root@lepton.nuc.net [204.49.61.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07536; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 19:10:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wheelman@nuc.net) Received: from electron.nuc.net (dhcp3.nuc.net [204.49.61.51]) by lepton.nuc.net (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA12731; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:10:41 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jaime Bozza" To: Cc: Subject: proftpd Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:08:14 -0500 Message-ID: <000101bda239$9bf80440$333d31cc@electron.nuc.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, If there's anyone on either of these lists using proftpd, can you drop me an email? Any version in the 1.1.x branch seems to have a problem with the I/O routines (socket reuse), and we're trying to get a bit more data other than just my systems. (At least, no one else on the proftpd list has responded that they're using FreeBSD) Thanks, Jaime Bozza Nucleus Communications, Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 19:40:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA10985 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 19:40:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from postman.true.net (s1.admin.true.net [161.196.66.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA10962; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 19:40:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lem@cantv.net) Received: from s2.admin.true.net (mail.cantv.net [161.196.66.21]) by postman.true.net (8.8.7/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA14048; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 22:39:27 -0400 (VET) Received: from lem (root@localhost) by s2.admin.true.net (8.8.7/CS-R-1.4) with SMTP id WAA20778; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 22:39:24 -0400 (VET) X-BlackMail: lem.dialup.true.net, lem, lem@cantv.net, 200.11.160.2 X-Authenticated-Timestamp: 22:39:25(VET) on June 27, 1998 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980627221053.00867c80@pop.cantv.net> X-Sender: lem@pop.cantv.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 22:10:53 -0400 To: Nicole Harrington From: Luis Munoz Subject: Re: Packet Engines - FreeBSD + more Cc: Terry Lambert , opsys@mail.webspan.net, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <199806270802.BAA24158@usr08.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [snip] >> >>> the first number is a random number generated during acct creation (1-3). >>> >>> If you can think of any additions or alternatives, please let me know. >> >> The only two that come to mind are: >> >> 1) "Keep a count and try to balance the tree at account creation >> time by making the first number choice a weighted value instead >> of a random number". >> > > Hmmm Yes, to make sure it stays even and random. > > >> 2) "Rebalance the tree from time to time by migrating accounts >> around. Just prebalancing the tree (per #1) is not enough, >> since accunts also have random duration, as well as random >> arrival times". >> > > This is tricky however since this will affect those with web sites who hav >e cgi-scripts that need to know where they are. But yes I need to think about ho >w to make sure things stay balanaced. Hmmmm Using a substring of the MD5 of the key, in this case the login, is very good as this function tends to balance input into nice 'buckets'. You could do something like /home/aa /home/ab and so on. There you would create the users' directory. This would give you 256 buckets of users. Of course, you can use more :) Just my $0.01 :) Regards. -lem To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 19:41:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA11135 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 19:41:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.seidata.com (ns1.seidata.com [208.10.211.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA11098; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 19:41:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@seidata.com) Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by ns1.seidata.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA17610; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 22:42:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 22:42:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike To: Taavi Talvik cc: Greg Lehey , Jason Godsey , isp@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: qpopper compromise (was: !!! FLASH TRAFFIC !!! QPOPPER REMOTE ROOT EXPLOIT (fwd)) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, Taavi Talvik wrote: Well... I suppose this is applicable for any isp and I'm running current... so I'm posting to all original addrs. *ducks behind chair* To think that I'd almost deleted the initial '!!!...!!!' post as well thinking it was spam. ;) > Only thing, popper built with latest patches (incl. patch-ag) dies with > SIGSEGV on my box immediately when accessed.. Ditto... > This is on current approximately one month old. And ditto. No matter how many times you reboot/respawn it still dies with sig 11. Reverting to the old version restores functionality. This is with 3.0-980520-SNAP and the /usr/ports/mail/popper package from about 7-8pm today (27th). I had to dig for it (amongst a few thousand 'popper existed on sig 11' lines)... but I did also find the following: Jun 27 19:28:58 ns1 /usr/local/libexec/popper[5622]: Unable to obtain socket and address of client, err = 38 *shrug* -mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 21:22:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA21899 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:22:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from junior.apk.net (root@junior.apk.net [207.54.158.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA21883; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:22:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@krivis.com) Received: from carbon (as1-icg-42.apk.net [207.54.186.52]) by junior.apk.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA01128; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 00:21:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199806280421.AAA01128@junior.apk.net> From: "Stuart Krivis" Organization: Yoyodyne Propulsion Systems, Inc. To: tlambert@primenet.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, opsys@mail.webspan.net Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 00:16:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Packet Engines - FreeBSD + more Reply-to: stuart@krivis.com In-reply-to: <199806270802.BAA24158@usr08.primenet.com> References: from "Nicole Harrington" at Jun 26, 98 11:05:53 pm X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01a) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 27 Jun 98, at 8:02, Terry Lambert wrote: > SPAMmers look for ISP's who don't stop them from sending SPAM, > and for relay hosts otherwise. Either way, the packets coming from maps.vix.com and look for rlytest Will quickly tell you if you need to worry. -- Stuart Krivis stuart@krivis.com [Team APK] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 22:06:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA27329 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 22:06:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aniwa.sky (aniwa.actrix.gen.nz [203.96.56.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA27319 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 22:06:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by aniwa.sky (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA01221; Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:04:41 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) X-Authentication-Warning: aniwa.sky: andrew owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 17:04:40 +1200 (NZST) From: Andrew McNaughton X-Sender: andrew@aniwa.sky Reply-To: andrew@squiz.co.nz To: Mahlon Smith cc: Emmanuel Gravel , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Setting up Apache In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > The problem is when I try and access any CGI script, no matter where they > > are. Before, > > I was getting an "access forbidden" error (fixed by changing the > > properties of the files > > and directories). The new error now is Error 500 Internal Server Error > > (talking about > > notifying the administrator about a problem in the configuration). On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, Mahlon Smith wrote: > Do a > 'whereis perl' > on your system - make sure that the first line in your perl script > matches it. > > i.e. > #!/usr/bin/perl -w do a '/usr/bin/perl -v' to check which version this is. Perl 5 defaults to installing in /usr/local/bin/perl and you may have perl 4 still lurking in /usr/bin. This can create problems with newer scripts. > Another good thing to check is the perl script fromt he command line... > it may be gibberish - or, it may give you a better clue as to what is > happening. > > -Mahlon I have a macro set up from my text editor to pipe the contents of the current window to perl, which is very useful for this. Also I usually have an xterm window running beside my browser with 'tail -f /home/www/logs/error_log'. This gives the first few lines of stdout from the script if they occur before the http header is complete. Sometimes it's easiest to just complete the http header right at the beginning of the script. After this is done, stderr goes to the browser. Good for debugging, but probably not a good idea once the script is in production. Andrew McNaughton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jun 27 22:43:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA02355 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 22:43:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ilium.troy.msen.com (ilium.troy.msen.com [148.59.4.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA02337 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 22:43:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wayne@ilium.troy.msen.com) Received: by ilium.troy.msen.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0yqAEy-0003cUC; Sun, 28 Jun 98 01:43 EDT Message-Id: To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ETinc cards, PPP and OSPF From: wayne@msen.com Date: Sun, 28 Jun 98 01:43:03 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Please reply TO ME and not just to the list as I am still waiting (3 days now) for my subscription to this list to be approved. We are doing an evaluation of the ETinc T1 cards, using them in PPP mode. So far, I have been completely unable to get them to respond to OSPF packets from our routers. Since the interfaces supplied by ETinc cards do not operate in multicast mode, I have added to my gated.conf interfaces { define 148.59.21.129 pointtopoint 148.59.21.130 ; } ; but this seems to not make a difference (the router remains in INIT state) sending multicast packets at the ETinc card and the ETinc card never responds. I assume that I am missing something obvious but need a fresh outlook on this problem as I have run out of ideas. /\/\ \/\/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message