From owner-freebsd-mozilla Sun Apr 12 11:23:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12855 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 11:23:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12836; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 11:23:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17183; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 11:23:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199804121823.LAA17183@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: patl@phoenix.volant.org cc: mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Java for Mozilla In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Apr 1998 11:07:01 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 11:23:03 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Good Point. In case that you missed the announcement, there is a mozilla-freebsd@freebsd.org mailing list to subscribe: ----- mail majordomo@freebsd.org subscribe mozilla-freebsd@freebsd.org Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Sun Apr 12 13:37:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA28977 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 13:37:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA28971 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 13:37:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA17511 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 13:36:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199804122036.NAA17511@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: whats up with the mozilla cvs repository? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 13:36:56 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I can cvsup it and just a couple of days ago I was able to update my mozilla cvs tree with no problem. Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Sun Apr 12 13:43:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29611 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 13:43:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from prairiecomm.prairiecommunications.com (mail.prairiecommunications.com [208.141.230.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29604 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 13:43:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alk@pobox.com) Received: from 208.141.230.119 by prairiecomm.prairiecommunications.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id 2P498TKW; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 15:39:33 -0500 Received: (from alk@localhost) by pobox.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) id PAA17289; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 15:44:16 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 15:44:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199804122044.PAA17289@pobox.com> From: Tony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Face: O9M"E%K;(f-Go/XDxL+pCxI5*gr[=FN@Y`cl1.Tn Reply-To: alk@pobox.com To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com Cc: mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: whats up with the mozilla cvs repository? References: <199804122036.NAA17511@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoth Amancio Hasty on Sun, 12 April: : : : I can cvsup it and just a couple of days ago I was able to update my : mozilla cvs tree with no problem. So did I, but today I get: Updating collection cvs-mozilla/cvs SetAttrs CVSROOT/checkoutlist,v CVSROOT/checkoutlist,v: Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file SetAttrs CVSROOT/commitinfo,v CVSROOT/commitinfo,v: Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file SetAttrs CVSROOT/config,v CVSROOT/config,v: Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file SetAttrs CVSROOT/cvswrappers,v CVSROOT/cvswrappers,v: Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file SetAttrs CVSROOT/editinfo,v CVSROOT/editinfo,v: Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file SetAttrs CVSROOT/loginfo,v CVSROOT/loginfo,v: Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file SetAttrs CVSROOT/modules,v CVSROOT/modules,v: Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file SetAttrs CVSROOT/notify,v CVSROOT/notify,v: Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file SetAttrs CVSROOT/rcsinfo,v CVSROOT/rcsinfo,v: Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file SetAttrs CVSROOT/taginfo,v CVSROOT/taginfo,v: Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file SetAttrs CVSROOT/verifymsg,v CVSROOT/verifymsg,v: Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file Create ns/CHANGES.html,v Detailer failed: Protocol error: Invalid FileAttr.AttrTypes encoding [Here it ends] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Sun Apr 12 15:32:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA13037 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 15:32:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cimlogic.com.au ([203.36.2.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13027 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 15:32:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.7) id IAA18701 for mozilla@freebsd.org; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 08:32:15 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199804122232.IAA18701@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: CVSup: Try again To: mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 08:32:14 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For those who've been having difficulties with CVSuping mozilla source, the problem (feature) has now been fixed (worked around). FWIW, the cvsup protocol doesn't like spaces in file names. Jordan imported the latest sources and three mac files had spaces. The work around was to block mac sources. I don't that anyone cares about that?! -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Sun Apr 12 15:55:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14463 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 15:55:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.dyn.ml.org (garbanzo@seoul-217.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.228.217]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14448 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 15:55:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garbanzo@hooked.net) Received: from localhost (garbanzo@localhost) by zippy.dyn.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA26628; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 15:55:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: zippy.dyn.ml.org: garbanzo owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 15:55:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex X-Sender: garbanzo@zippy.dyn.ml.org To: Tony Kimball cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: whats up with the mozilla cvs repository? In-Reply-To: <199804122044.PAA17289@pobox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 12 Apr 1998, Tony Kimball wrote: > Quoth Amancio Hasty on Sun, 12 April: > : > : > : I can cvsup it and just a couple of days ago I was able to update my > : mozilla cvs tree with no problem. > > So did I, but today I get: > > Updating collection cvs-mozilla/cvs > SetAttrs CVSROOT/checkoutlist,v > CVSROOT/checkoutlist,v: Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file > SetAttrs CVSROOT/commitinfo,v > CVSROOT/commitinfo,v: Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file > SetAttrs CVSROOT/config,v > CVSROOT/config,v: Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file > SetAttrs CVSROOT/cvswrappers,v > CVSROOT/cvswrappers,v: Checksum mismatch -- will transfer entire file > SetAttrs CVSROOT/editinfo,v Well, I'd block the mac sources (as John mentioned), however, if I was going to do any decent work with the cvs repository, I'd also now block any updating of the CVSROOT directory. - alex "We are upping our standards ... so up yours." - Pat Paulsen for US of A Prez, 1988. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Sun Apr 12 17:25:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26300 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 17:25:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebsd.scds.com (jseger.shore.net [204.167.102.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26285 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 17:25:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jseger@freebsd.scds.com) Received: (from jseger@localhost) by freebsd.scds.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id UAA16818; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 20:31:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 20:31:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199804130031.UAA16818@freebsd.scds.com> From: "Justin M. Seger" To: mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Commit logs Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Where are the commit messages for mozilla-cvs being stored? Thanks, -Justin Seger- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Sun Apr 12 17:30:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26672 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 17:30:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cimlogic.com.au ([203.36.2.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26663 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 17:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.7) id KAA19421; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:29:38 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199804130029.KAA19421@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: Commit logs In-Reply-To: <199804130031.UAA16818@freebsd.scds.com> from "Justin M. Seger" at "Apr 12, 98 08:31:27 pm" To: jseger@freebsd.scds.com (Justin M. Seger) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:29:37 +1000 (EST) Cc: mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Justin M. Seger wrote: > Where are the commit messages for mozilla-cvs being stored? They're currently going to the bit bucket. Peter Wemm has advised what we need to do to send commit messages to this list. I think he volunteered to do it too. Maybe "soon". 8-) -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Sun Apr 12 17:31:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26815 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 17:31:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebsd.scds.com (jseger.shore.net [204.167.102.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26808 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 17:31:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jseger@freebsd.scds.com) Received: (from jseger@localhost) by freebsd.scds.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id UAA16854; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 20:37:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 20:37:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199804130037.UAA16854@freebsd.scds.com> From: "Justin M. Seger" To: jb@cimlogic.com.au CC: mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199804130029.KAA19421@cimlogic.com.au> (message from John Birrell on Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:29:37 +1000 (EST)) Subject: Re: Commit logs References: <199804130029.KAA19421@cimlogic.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Justin M. Seger wrote: > Where are the commit messages for mozilla-cvs being stored? They're currently going to the bit bucket. Peter Wemm has advised what we need to do to send commit messages to this list. I think he volunteered to do it too. Maybe "soon". 8-) Ewww... Is there any quick cvs command that will show me every file that has been changed since it was imported? Thanks in advance, -Justin Seger- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Sun Apr 12 17:35:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27014 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 17:35:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cimlogic.com.au ([203.36.2.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27004 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 17:35:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.7) id KAA19454; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:34:57 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199804130034.KAA19454@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: Commit logs In-Reply-To: <199804130037.UAA16854@freebsd.scds.com> from "Justin M. Seger" at "Apr 12, 98 08:37:11 pm" To: jseger@freebsd.scds.com (Justin M. Seger) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:34:57 +1000 (EST) Cc: jb@cimlogic.com.au, mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Justin M. Seger wrote: > Ewww... Is there any quick cvs command that will show me every file that has > been changed since it was imported? Umm, I'm not sure that you really want to do that because Jordan imported the updated sources on 12-Apr and this stamped a bunch of files. There is a checked out tree in /a/tmp/ns on bento that you might try a "cvs diff" and see what that says. Last I looked it was the checkout tree of the first import. As always, I maybe wrong. 8-) -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Sun Apr 12 18:05:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA01004 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 18:05:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebsd.scds.com (jseger.shore.net [204.167.102.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA00981 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 18:05:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jseger@freebsd.scds.com) Received: (from jseger@localhost) by freebsd.scds.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id VAA18021; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 21:10:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1998 21:10:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199804130110.VAA18021@freebsd.scds.com> From: "Justin M. Seger" To: jb@cimlogic.com.au CC: jb@cimlogic.com.au, mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199804130034.KAA19454@cimlogic.com.au> (message from John Birrell on Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:34:57 +1000 (EST)) Subject: Re: Commit logs References: <199804130034.KAA19454@cimlogic.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Umm, I'm not sure that you really want to do that because Jordan imported the updated sources on 12-Apr and this stamped a bunch of files. There is a checked out tree in /a/tmp/ns on bento that you might try a "cvs diff" and see what that says. Last I looked it was the checkout tree of the first import. As always, I maybe wrong. 8-) So the import of the 04-08 sources were merged with previous changed? If so a cvs rdiff should get me part of what I need. Thanks, -Justin Seger- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Sun Apr 12 18:08:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA01477 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 18:08:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cimlogic.com.au ([203.36.2.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA01448 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 1998 18:07:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.7) id LAA19791; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 11:07:31 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199804130107.LAA19791@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: Commit logs In-Reply-To: <199804130110.VAA18021@freebsd.scds.com> from "Justin M. Seger" at "Apr 12, 98 09:10:49 pm" To: jseger@freebsd.scds.com (Justin M. Seger) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 11:07:16 +1000 (EST) Cc: jb@cimlogic.com.au, mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Justin M. Seger wrote: > So the import of the 04-08 sources were merged with previous changed? If so > a cvs rdiff should get me part of what I need. Most. I don't know what commits have taken place since then. -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Mon Apr 13 08:25:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12419 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 08:25:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from prometheus.frii.com (prometheus.frii.com [208.146.240.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12411; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 15:25:27 GMT (envelope-from gnat@prometheus.frii.com) Received: (from gnat@localhost) by prometheus.frii.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id JAA21474; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 09:25:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from gnat) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 09:25:24 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199804131525.JAA21474@prometheus.frii.com> From: gnat@frii.com To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG CC: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Libraries X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under Emacs 19.34.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.103) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't know if this has been raised before or not. I'm working on the gtk port of Mozilla, and also trying to compile GNOME for FreeBSD. The biggest problem I've run into so far has been the non-standard naming of libraries. libtiff34 is the best example. The GNOME autoconf code looks for libtiff.a or libtiff.so, *not* libtiff34.* I'm pretty sure the libtiff34 naming thing is bogus. I'm less certain of this shared library weirdness: the installation of a libpng.so.2.1 without installing libpng.so as a soft link seems wrong to me. A lot of the code I've seen on the net (and, in this case, GNOME) wants to link in libwhatever.so and not bother with the version numbers. Is there a standard for this? Could someone point me towards it? Thanks, Nat To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Mon Apr 13 09:34:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA28660 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 09:34:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA28584; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 16:34:06 GMT (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from harmony [10.0.0.6] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0yOmB2-0005xH-00; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:33:48 -0600 Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA06523; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:34:01 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199804131634.KAA06523@harmony.village.org> To: gnat@frii.com Subject: Re: Libraries Cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Apr 1998 09:25:24 MDT." <199804131525.JAA21474@prometheus.frii.com> References: <199804131525.JAA21474@prometheus.frii.com> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:34:01 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <199804131525.JAA21474@prometheus.frii.com> gnat@frii.com writes: : I'm pretty sure the libtiff34 naming thing is bogus. I'm less certain : of this shared library weirdness: the installation of a libpng.so.2.1 : without installing libpng.so as a soft link seems wrong to me. A lot : of the code I've seen on the net (and, in this case, GNOME) wants to : link in libwhatever.so and not bother with the version numbers. : : Is there a standard for this? Could someone point me towards it? The *.so symbolic link kludge is from the SYS V. FreeBSD doesn't need these links as it uses a SunOS 4.x style of library naming. autoconfig handles this correctly for other programs. Maybe GNOME is using autoconfig incorrectly. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Mon Apr 13 12:49:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03989 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 12:49:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from axp5.physik.fu-berlin.de (axp5.physik.fu-berlin.de [160.45.34.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA03975 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 19:48:55 GMT (envelope-from dieringe@sirius.physik.fu-berlin.de) Received: from sirius.physik.fu-berlin.de (sirius.physik.fu-berlin.de [160.45.34.162]) by axp5.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA23589 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 21:48:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from dieringe@localhost) by sirius.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.8.5/8.7.1) id VAA17892; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 21:48:49 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 21:48:49 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199804131948.VAA17892@sirius.physik.fu-berlin.de> To: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/mozilla.html X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2.7.1 X-Personal_name: Martin Dieringer From: dieringe@physik.fu-berlin.de Subject: subscribe freebsd-mozilla Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Mon Apr 13 13:41:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA13054 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 13:41:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mrtc.org (root@waena.mrtc.org [199.4.33.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA12937 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 20:40:26 GMT (envelope-from puga@maui.com) Received: from maui.com (mr1-002.mrtc.org [199.4.32.2]) by mrtc.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA27113 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:47:31 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <35327823.50BDF9AE@maui.com> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:40:03 -1000 From: Richard Puga Organization: Maui Built Machines X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: gmake error Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG is anyone getting this error while trying to build ns... if you know what it is or can help, thanks in advance... RP gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/mozilla/ns/dbm/src' gcc -o FreeBSD3.0_DBG.OBJ/snprintf.o -c -DXP_UNIX -g -DFREEBSD -DBSDI -DBSDI_2 -D__386BSD__ -Di386 -fpic -DSW_THREADS -DNEED_UINT -DHAVE_LCHOWN -DNTOHL_ENDIAN_H -DHAVE_FILIO_H -DNEED_SYS_TIME_H -DNEED_UINT_T -DHAVE_BSD_FLOCK -D_PR_LOCAL_THREADS_ONLY -DHAVE_STRERROR -DDEBUG -UNDEBUG -DDEBUG_root -DTRACING -DNSPR20 -DNETSCAPE -DOSTYPE=\"FreeBSD3\" -DMOZILLA_CLIENT -DNO_SECURITY -DEDITOR -DMOZ_COMMUNICATOR_IIDS -DEDITOR -DEDITOR_UI -DLAYERS -DUNIX_EMBED -DX_PLUGINS -DUNIX_LDAP -DNSPR -DMOCHA -DUNIX_ASYNC_DNS -DDEVELOPER_DEBUG -DMEMMOVE -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DNSPR20=1 -I../../include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I../../dist/FreeBSD3.0_DBG.OBJ/include -I../include snprintf.c snprintf.c: In function `vsnprintf': snprintf.c:60: argument `ap' doesn't match prototype /usr/include/stdio.h:321: prototype declaration gmake[2]: *** [FreeBSD3.0_DBG.OBJ/snprintf.o] Error 1 gmake[2]: Target `install' not remade because of errors. gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/mozilla/ns/dbm/src' gmake[1]: *** [install] Error 2 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/mozilla/ns/dbm' gmake: *** [install] Error 2 gmake: Target `all' not remade because of errors. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Mon Apr 13 15:18:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03204 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 15:18:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu [130.126.72.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA03122 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 22:18:31 GMT (envelope-from dannyman@arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu) Received: (from dannyman@localhost) by arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) id RAA00171; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 17:18:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19980413171832.28762@urh.uiuc.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 17:18:32 -0500 From: dannyman To: mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: PR teaser Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i X-Loop: djhoward@uiuc.edu X-URL: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i have to go and eat dorm food now, but in my unreasonably busy schedule, i've found a little while to get started on the promised news release for the FreeBSD Mozilla Group. it seems the CVS archive is the most news-worthy thing, so that's the lead around which I'm basing things. Getting started was the hardest part. i have also this afternoon sent messages to various online news organizations, like news.com, regarding the coming press release. i want to get this bugger out the door later tonight or at least sometime tomorrow. worse comes to worse i can wait til wednesday and have my clever professor dude rip it apart one last time. the reason why things are going slow here is coz i also got a paper to write for history, among several other balls in the air. the history paper will be through the hoop soon though coz it's due tomorrow. so i'm busy all night, and not so much on PR. ;) anyone who wants to fix/suggest/bitch/hop on and write a paragraph/whatever is welcome to do so. since my progress is going slower than i have promised, i wanted to reassure y'all that i'm still alive and working. -dan -- // dannyman yori aiokomete || Our Honored Symbol deserves \\/ http://www.dannyland.org/~dannyman/ || an Honorable Retirement (UIUC) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Mon Apr 13 16:40:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA25169 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 16:40:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from exelion.yk.rim.or.jp (amadeus@exelion.yk.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA25159 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 23:40:40 GMT (envelope-from amadeus@yk.rim.or.jp) Received: from localhost (amadeus@localhost) by exelion.yk.rim.or.jp (8.8.5/3.4Wbeta6-rim1.1) with SMTP id IAA16623; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 08:40:34 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199804132340.IAA16623@exelion.yk.rim.or.jp> To: mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG From: Takaaki Nomura Subject: netscape problem in 24bpp Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 08:40:34 +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm a new comer to this mailing list. I belong to XFree86 developer mailing list. Netscape navigator has a problem that icons become black and white in 24bpp. I've also seen the problem with Millennium. A member of XFree86 developer mailing list has fixed the problem. If the patch for it hasn't been known to this mailing list, I'll ask him to let me send the patch here. -- Takaaki Nomura To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Mon Apr 13 17:33:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA04412 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 17:33:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mph124b.rh.psu.edu (MPH124B.rh.psu.edu [128.118.126.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA04405 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 00:33:40 GMT (envelope-from gsutter@pobox.com) From: gsutter@pobox.com Received: from localhost (gsutter@localhost) by mph124b.rh.psu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA20369; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 20:33:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gsutter@pobox.com) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 20:33:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: gsutter@mph124b.rh.psu.edu To: dannyman cc: mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PR teaser In-Reply-To: <19980413171832.28762@urh.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 13 Apr 1998, dannyman wrote: >i've found a little while to get started on the promised news release for >the FreeBSD Mozilla Group. it seems the CVS archive is the most >news-worthy thing, so that's the lead around which I'm basing things. >Getting started was the hardest part. > >anyone who wants to fix/suggest/bitch/hop on and write a paragraph/whatever >is welcome to do so. since my progress is going slower than i have >promised, i wanted to reassure y'all that i'm still alive and working. If you tell me where, I'll at the least read it and make suggestions. Do you have a URL for the work-in-progress? Regards, GReg -- Gregory S. Sutter "How do I read this file?" mailto:gsutter@pobox.com "You uudecode it." http://www.pobox.com/~gsutter/ "I I I decode it?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Mon Apr 13 17:51:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA07139 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 17:51:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu [130.126.72.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA07069 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 00:51:12 GMT (envelope-from dannyman@arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu) Received: (from dannyman@localhost) by arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) id TAA19532; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 19:50:57 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19980413195057.02188@urh.uiuc.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 19:50:57 -0500 From: dannyman To: gsutter@pobox.com Cc: mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PR teaser - *HERE* :) References: <19980413171832.28762@urh.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="keyz6grp/JLjhZoa" X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: ; from gsutter@pobox.com on Mon, Apr 13, 1998 at 08:33:31PM -0400 X-Loop: djhoward@uiuc.edu X-URL: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --keyz6grp/JLjhZoa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mon, Apr 13, 1998 at 08:33:31PM -0400, gsutter@pobox.com wrote: > If you tell me where, I'll at the least read it and make suggestions. > Do you have a URL for the work-in-progress? DOH! i always forget to attach the thingies ... here! errr, this is half a rough draft. i need to rip through that history paper, for now though. thanks guys. -- // dannyman yori aiokomete || Our Honored Symbol deserves \\/ http://www.dannyland.org/~dannyman/ || an Honorable Retirement (UIUC) --keyz6grp/JLjhZoa Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="moz.txt" FREEBSD ESTABLISHES MOZILLA GROUP Files made easily available online Following the establishment of the FreeBSD Mozilla Group and a centralized CVS file archive, FreeBSD users can now track changes to Netscape Communicator's Mozilla source code through the Internet. The FreeBSD Mozilla Group has been established in order to coordinate development of Netscape's next-generation web browser, dubbed "Mozilla". Following the recent release of the source code to Mozilla, several free software groups have organized to become actively involved in helping Netscape to develop the product. FreeBSD has taken a lead in establishing a centralized file repository for tracking changes to the Mozilla source code submitted by its developers. A CVS archive, which FreeBSD already employs to allow users to track the source code to its Operating System, enables developers to keep track of different changes made to a project's source code, and experiment with different tracks of development, known as "branches". CVS is also an advantage to users who can easily update their local source code through client programs which download and apply the various changes, or "patches" that have been made to a software product. --keyz6grp/JLjhZoa-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Mon Apr 13 18:49:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA15682 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 18:49:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.telstra.com.au (mail.telstra.com.au [192.148.160.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA15664 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 01:48:42 GMT (envelope-from jharnett@copc.netsys.itg.telstra.com.au) From: jharnett@copc.netsys.itg.telstra.com.au Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.telstra.com.au (8.8.2/8.6.9) id LAA12996 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:48:04 +1000 (EST) Received: from mail-gw.fwall.telstra.com.au(192.148.147.16) via SMTP by mail.telstra.com.au, id smtpd012936; Tue Apr 14 11:47:34 1998 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail-gw.fwall.telstra.com.au (8.8.2/8.6.9) id LAA03690 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:47:32 +1000 (EST) Received: from copc.netsys.itg.telecom.com.au(172.73.16.33) via SMTP by mail-gw.fwall.telstra.com.au, id smtpd003634; Tue Apr 14 11:47:03 1998 Received: (from jharnett@localhost) by copc.netsys.itg.telecom.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA15154 for freebsd-mozilla@freebsd.org; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:47:03 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199804140147.LAA15154@copc.netsys.itg.telecom.com.au> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:47:02 +1000 (EST) To: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Mon Apr 13 21:17:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA13003 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 21:17:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from exelion.yk.rim.or.jp (amadeus@exelion.yk.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA12996 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 04:17:52 GMT (envelope-from amadeus@yk.rim.or.jp) Received: from localhost (amadeus@localhost) by exelion.yk.rim.or.jp (8.8.5/3.4Wbeta6-rim1.1) with SMTP id NAA20285; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:17:46 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199804140417.NAA20285@exelion.yk.rim.or.jp> From: Takaaki Nomura To: mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: netscape problem in 24bpp In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 14 Apr 1998 08:40:34 JST" References: <199804132340.IAA16623@exelion.yk.rim.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:17:44 +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I wrote: >Hi, I'm a new comer to this mailing list. I belong to XFree86 developer >mailing list. > >Netscape navigator has a problem that icons become black and white in 24bpp. >I've also seen the problem with Millennium. A member of XFree86 developer >mailing list has fixed the problem. If the patch for it hasn't been known to >this mailing list, I'll ask him to let me send the patch here. I've been informed that the bug fix has been already incorporated in the current released sources. Sorry. -- Takaaki Nomura To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Mon Apr 13 21:22:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA13880 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 21:22:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [206.156.231.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA13865 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 04:22:41 GMT (envelope-from paul@elvis.mu.org) Received: (from paul@localhost) by elvis.mu.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA05417; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 23:22:41 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from paul) Message-ID: <19980413232241.34523@mu.org> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 23:22:41 -0500 From: Paul Saab To: Takaaki Nomura , mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: netscape problem in 24bpp References: <199804132340.IAA16623@exelion.yk.rim.or.jp> <199804140417.NAA20285@exelion.yk.rim.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199804140417.NAA20285@exelion.yk.rim.or.jp>; from Takaaki Nomura on Tue, Apr 14, 1998 at 01:17:44PM +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG what about the problem with loading Java in netscape with the Millennium in 24bpp? I always get a bus error with Xfree. paul Takaaki Nomura (amadeus@yk.rim.or.jp) wrote: > I wrote: > >Hi, I'm a new comer to this mailing list. I belong to XFree86 developer > >mailing list. > > > >Netscape navigator has a problem that icons become black and white in 24bpp. > >I've also seen the problem with Millennium. A member of XFree86 developer > >mailing list has fixed the problem. If the patch for it hasn't been known to > >this mailing list, I'll ask him to let me send the patch here. > > I've been informed that the bug fix has been already incorporated in the > current released sources. Sorry. > > -- > Takaaki Nomura > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Mon Apr 13 21:47:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA16383 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 21:47:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from exelion.yk.rim.or.jp (amadeus@exelion.yk.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA16370 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 04:47:19 GMT (envelope-from amadeus@yk.rim.or.jp) Received: from localhost (amadeus@localhost) by exelion.yk.rim.or.jp (8.8.5/3.4Wbeta6-rim1.1) with SMTP id NAA20486; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:47:18 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199804140447.NAA20486@exelion.yk.rim.or.jp> From: Takaaki Nomura To: mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: netscape problem in 24bpp In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Apr 1998 23:22:41 EST" References: <199804132340.IAA16623@exelion.yk.rim.or.jp> <199804140417.NAA20285@exelion.yk.rim.or.jp> <19980413232241.34523@mu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:47:16 +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Paul Saab wrote: >what about the problem with loading Java in netscape with the >Millennium in 24bpp? I always get a bus error with Xfree. > >paul > >Takaaki Nomura (amadeus@yk.rim.or.jp) wrote: >> I wrote: >> >Hi, I'm a new comer to this mailing list. I belong to XFree86 developer >> >mailing list. >> > >> >Netscape navigator has a problem that icons become black and white in 24bpp. >> >I've also seen the problem with Millennium. A member of XFree86 developer >> >mailing list has fixed the problem. If the patch for it hasn't been known to >> >this mailing list, I'll ask him to let me send the patch here. >> >> I've been informed that the bug fix has been already incorporated in the >> current released sources. Sorry. I've not known the problem related to Java and 24bpp. Have you reported to BUGZILLA? The bug fix I mentioned is in http://www.mozilla.org/changelog19980408. html or ns/CHANGES.html in the sources. The modified source is ns/cmd/ xfe/icons.c. -- Takaaki Nomura To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 14 00:10:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA11254 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 00:10:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA11148; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 07:10:11 GMT (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (ala-ca34-37.ix.netcom.com [207.93.143.165]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA27501; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 00:10:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/8.6.9) id AAA02051; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 00:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199804140710.AAA02051@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: gnat@frii.com CC: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199804131525.JAA21474@prometheus.frii.com> (gnat@frii.com) Subject: Re: Libraries From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * I don't know if this has been raised before or not. I'm working on * the gtk port of Mozilla, and also trying to compile GNOME for FreeBSD. * The biggest problem I've run into so far has been the non-standard * naming of libraries. * * libtiff34 is the best example. The GNOME autoconf code looks for * libtiff.a or libtiff.so, *not* libtiff34.* The library names with version numbers are those that have proven in the past to upgrade without preserving backwards compatibility. Usually that is solved by bumping the major shlib number, but we can't do that for libraries that are used by dozens of other ports. Because the way FreeBSD shared libraries work, it is not possible to smoothly transition from one version to another without changing the "base" name (as you see in libtiff or libtcl). Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 14 02:18:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA29676 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 02:18:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29641; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:18:16 GMT (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (ala-ca34-37.ix.netcom.com [207.93.143.165]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA27620; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 02:18:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.8/8.6.9) id CAA02305; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 02:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 02:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199804140918.CAA02305@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199804131059.DAA12906@freefall.freebsd.org> (jseger@FreeBSD.ORG) Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/www/mozilla Makefile ports/www/mozilla/files netscape.sh ports/www/mozilla/pkg PLIST From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Use shared libaries instead of having a 60+MB binary. Thanks! I built a package and put it in packages-stable. It looks like: === ## ls -slg /usr/local/lib/mozilla/bin total 63116 2 drwxr-xr-x 2 bin bin 1536 Apr 13 21:25 ./ 1 drwxr-xr-x 3 bin bin 512 Apr 13 21:25 ../ 12 -rwxr-xr-x 1 bin bin 12177 Apr 13 20:45 bsdecho* 200 -rwxr-xr-x 1 bin bin 191742 Apr 13 21:09 libDtWidgets.so.1.0* 4520 -rwxr-xr-x 1 bin bin 4616014 Apr 13 21:10 libXfeWidgets.so.1.0* : 152 -rwxr-xr-x 1 bin bin 146257 Apr 13 20:52 libzlib.so.1.0* 2568 -rwxr-xr-x 1 bin bin 2617344 Apr 13 21:25 moz-export* 33 -rwxr-xr-x 1 bin bin 33290 Apr 13 20:45 nsinstall* 176 -rwxr-xr-x 1 bin bin 164080 Apr 13 21:12 vreg* ## ldd /usr/local/lib/mozilla/bin/moz-export /usr/local/lib/mozilla/bin/moz-export: -lxfe2.1 => not found (0x0) -lXmL.1 => not found (0x0) -lxfeicons.1 => not found (0x0) -lDtWidgets.1 => not found (0x0) -lXfeWidgets.1 => not found (0x0) -lxlate.1 => not found (0x0) -lnet.1 => not found (0x0) -lrdf.1 => not found (0x0) -lxml.1 => not found (0x0) -llay.1 => not found (0x0) -lpng.1 => not found (0x0) -lmariner.1 => not found (0x0) -limg.1 => not found (0x0) -ljpeg.1 => not found (0x0) -lhook.1 => not found (0x0) -lparse.1 => not found (0x0) -lpref.1 => not found (0x0) -li18n.1 => not found (0x0) -lpics.1 => /usr/local/lib/libpics.so.1.0 (0x20279000) -lpwcac.1 => not found (0x0) -lreg.1 => not found (0x0) -lmisc.1 => not found (0x0) -lplug.1 => not found (0x0) -lutil.1 => not found (0x0) -lfont.1 => not found (0x0) -lprgrss.1 => not found (0x0) -llayer.1 => not found (0x0) -lstubsj.1 => not found (0x0) -lstubnj.1 => not found (0x0) -lzlib.1 => not found (0x0) -ljs.1 => not found (0x0) -ljsj.1 => not found (0x0) -lmocha.1 => not found (0x0) -lstyle.1 => not found (0x0) -lhtmldlgs.1 => not found (0x0) -lsecfree.1 => not found (0x0) -lxp.1 => not found (0x0) -ldbm.1 => not found (0x0) -lXpm.4 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4.10 (0x20293000) -lXt.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6.0 (0x202a0000) -lXmu.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6.0 (0x202dc000) -lX11.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6.1 (0x202eb000) -lXext.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6.3 (0x2037e000) -lSM.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6.0 (0x20387000) -lICE.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6.3 (0x2038f000) -lc.3 => /usr/lib/libc.so.3.1 (0x203a0000) -lg++.4 => /usr/lib/libg++.so.4.0 (0x2040e000) -lstdc++.2 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.0 (0x2044a000) -lm.2 => /usr/lib/libm.so.2.0 (0x20480000) ## ls -slg /usr/ports/packages/All/mozilla-1998-04-08.tgz 19624 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 20067869 Apr 13 21:41 /usr/ports/packages/All/mozilla-1998-04-08.tgz ## ls -slg /usr/local/lib/mozilla/bin === I haven't tried to run it, but looking at the /usr/local/bin/mozilla script, it appears to put the libraries in the right place. This wasn't that bad. It's only slightly larger than xemacs20. :> Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 14 02:49:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA05216 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 02:49:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peedub.muc.de (newpc.muc.ditec.de [194.120.126.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05199; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:49:03 GMT (envelope-from garyj@peedub.muc.de) Received: from peedub.muc.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peedub.muc.de (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA11292; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:49:29 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199804140949.LAA11292@peedub.muc.de> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/www/mozilla Makefile ports/www/mozilla/files netscape.sh ports/www/mozilla/pkg PLIST Reply-To: Gary Jennejohn In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 14 Apr 1998 02:18:08 PDT." <199804140918.CAA02305@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:49:28 +0200 From: Gary Jennejohn Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Satoshi Asami writes: > * Use shared libaries instead of having a 60+MB binary. > >Thanks! I built a package and put it in packages-stable. It looks >like: [snip] >## ls -slg /usr/ports/packages/All/mozilla-1998-04-08.tgz >19624 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 20067869 Apr 13 21:41 /usr/ports/packages/All >/mozilla-1998-04-08.tgz >## ls -slg /usr/local/lib/mozilla/bin >=== > >I haven't tried to run it, but looking at the /usr/local/bin/mozilla >script, it appears to put the libraries in the right place. > >This wasn't that bad. It's only slightly larger than xemacs20. :> > not yet committed, but ... -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 16804382 Apr 12 19:21 xemacs-20.4.tgz -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 21026986 Apr 12 14:42 xemacs-mule-20.4.tgz it's gotten smaller :-) --- Gary Jennejohn Home - garyj@muc.de Work - garyj@fkr.dec.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 14 03:25:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA11250 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 03:25:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.dcfinc.com (freebie.dcfinc.com [138.113.2.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11244 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 10:25:46 GMT (envelope-from chad@dcfinc.com) Received: from bravo (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by freebie.dcfinc.com (8.8.7/8.8.3a) with SMTP id DAA05405 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 03:25:15 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980414032514.00914e90@mail> X-Sender: larson1@mail X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 03:25:14 To: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Chad R. Larson" Subject: subscribe Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL22) Brother, can you paradigm? 602-953-1392 CRL22@aol.com chad@dcfinc.com chad@anasazi.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Az 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 14 03:46:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA13889 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 03:46:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ghpc8.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (ghpc8.ihf.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.90.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA13866; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 10:46:37 GMT (envelope-from tg@ghpc8.ihf.rwth-aachen.de) Received: from ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de [134.130.90.6]) by ghpc8.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.7/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA12138; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 12:46:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from tg@localhost) by ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.8/8.8.5) id MAA29417; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 12:46:11 +0200 (CEST) To: Gary Jennejohn Cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/www/mozilla Makefile ports/www/mozilla/files netscape.sh ports/www/mozilla/pkg PLIST References: <199804140949.LAA11292@peedub.muc.de> From: Thomas Gellekum Date: 14 Apr 1998 12:46:11 +0200 In-Reply-To: Gary Jennejohn's message of "Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:49:28 +0200" Message-ID: <87lnt8adfw.fsf@ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de> Lines: 15 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gary Jennejohn writes: > >This wasn't that bad. It's only slightly larger than xemacs20. :> > > > > not yet committed, but ... > > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 16804382 Apr 12 19:21 xemacs-20.4.tgz > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 21026986 Apr 12 14:42 xemacs-mule-20.4.tgz > > it's gotten smaller :-) teTeX-0.9 will make up for that when it's out. tg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 14 07:50:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA26005 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 07:50:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from prometheus.frii.com (prometheus.frii.com [208.146.240.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA25954; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:50:18 GMT (envelope-from gnat@prometheus.frii.com) Received: (from gnat@localhost) by prometheus.frii.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id IAA26379; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 08:50:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from gnat) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 08:50:15 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199804141450.IAA26379@prometheus.frii.com> From: gnat@frii.com To: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Libraries In-Reply-To: <199804140710.AAA02051@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> References: <199804131525.JAA21474@prometheus.frii.com> <199804140710.AAA02051@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under Emacs 19.34.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.103) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Satoshi Asami writes: > The library names with version numbers are those that have proven in > the past to upgrade without preserving backwards compatibility. I figured that's what it was. > Usually that is solved by bumping the major shlib number, but we can't > do that for libraries that are used by dozens of other ports. Because > the way FreeBSD shared libraries work, it is not possible to smoothly > transition from one version to another without changing the "base" > name (as you see in libtiff or libtcl). Urk. What algorithm, then, should autoconf use to (a) find the j. random name of the library, (b) that library's include files, and (c) whether the library+include files are compatible with how it works? (c) is obviously "compile and run a test program" but what about (a) and (b)? It seems to me that FreeBSD's shared library system must be ill-designed if (a) and (b) are as difficult as it seems. Thanks, Nat To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 14 09:09:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09069 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:09:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA08979; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 16:08:55 GMT (envelope-from chuckr@glue.umd.edu) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA00831; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:07:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:07:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@localhost To: gnat@frii.com cc: Satoshi Asami , freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Libraries In-Reply-To: <199804141450.IAA26379@prometheus.frii.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 14 Apr 1998 gnat@frii.com wrote: > Satoshi Asami writes: > > The library names with version numbers are those that have proven in > > the past to upgrade without preserving backwards compatibility. > > I figured that's what it was. > > > Usually that is solved by bumping the major shlib number, but we can't > > do that for libraries that are used by dozens of other ports. Because > > the way FreeBSD shared libraries work, it is not possible to smoothly > > transition from one version to another without changing the "base" > > name (as you see in libtiff or libtcl). > > Urk. What algorithm, then, should autoconf use to (a) find the > j. random name of the library, (b) that library's include files, and > (c) whether the library+include files are compatible with how it > works? (c) is obviously "compile and run a test program" but what > about (a) and (b)? > > It seems to me that FreeBSD's shared library system must be > ill-designed if (a) and (b) are as difficult as it seems. It's not ill designed, it's ill-designed upgrades of software that's to blame. Classic case in point is the tcl stuff. If the newer versions were compatible with older versions, we wouldn't have or need abortions like libtcl81, we'd just have libtcl, and the linker would simply pick up the latest version. The trouble comes in when there are library upgrades which orphan existing applications, so you must be able to to have both lib versions on hand to run a given set of applications. You don't want our linker then to pick the latest version, so the basename has to be modified. > > Thanks, > > Nat > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 14 09:48:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14877 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:48:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from prairiecomm.prairiecommunications.com (mail.prairiecommunications.com [208.141.230.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA14820; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 16:48:16 GMT (envelope-from alk@pobox.com) Received: from 208.141.230.98 by prairiecomm.prairiecommunications.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id 2P498X5R; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:43:50 -0500 Received: (from alk@localhost) by pobox.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) id LAA12862; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:49:18 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:49:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199804141649.LAA12862@pobox.com> From: Tony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Face: O9M"E%K;(f-Go/XDxL+pCxI5*gr[=FN@Y`cl1.Tn Reply-To: alk@pobox.com To: chuckr@glue.umd.edu Cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Libraries References: <199804141450.IAA26379@prometheus.frii.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoth Chuck Robey on Tue, 14 April: : Classic case in point is the tcl stuff. If the newer versions : were compatible with older versions, we wouldn't have or need abortions : like libtcl81, we'd just have libtcl, and the linker would simply pick : up the latest version. The trouble comes in when there are library : upgrades which orphan existing applications, so you must be able to to : have both lib versions on hand to run a given set of applications. You : don't want our linker then to pick the latest version, so the basename : has to be modified. I had thought the whole point of the .so.maj.min scheme was that existing applications could continue to use .so.(N-1).x while newly compiled applications use .so.N.x. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 14 13:04:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02607 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:04:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from futurecom.ch (hades.futurecom.ch [194.209.213.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA02592 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:04:32 GMT (envelope-from cdapor@futurecom.ch) Received: from futurecom.ch (gandalf.futurecom.ch [152.146.210.148]) by futurecom.ch (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA31890 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 22:02:07 +0200 Message-ID: <3533C146.B498E082@futurecom.ch> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 22:04:22 +0200 From: Carlo Dapor Reply-To: carlo.dapor@futurecom.ch Organization: FutureCom interactive X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: subscribe dapor@swill.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe dapor@swill.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 14 13:08:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03314 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:08:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from misfit.users.xmission.com (misfit.users.xmission.com [207.135.128.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA03301 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:08:08 GMT (envelope-from misfit@misfit.users.xmission.com) Received: (from misfit@localhost) by misfit.users.xmission.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id OAA00577; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:08:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from misfit) To: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: teTeX (was Re: cvs commit: ports/www/mozilla Makefile ports/www/mozilla/files netscape.sh ports/www/mozilla/pkg PLIST) References: <199804140949.LAA11292@peedub.muc.de> <87lnt8adfw.fsf@ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: misfit@xmission.com (Anthony C. Chavez) Date: 14 Apr 1998 14:07:58 -0600 In-Reply-To: Thomas Gellekum's message of "14 Apr 1998 12:46:11 +0200" Message-ID: <87vhscw4ip.fsf_-_@misfit.users.xmission.com> Lines: 8 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.3 - "Vatican City" Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thomas Gellekum writes: > teTeX-0.9 will make up for that when it's out. And when will that be? I, for one, have anxiously been awaiting that. -- Anthony C. Chavez To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 14 13:40:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09644 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:40:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebsd.scds.com (jseger.shore.net [204.167.102.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA09479; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:40:06 GMT (envelope-from jseger@freebsd.scds.com) Received: (from jseger@localhost) by freebsd.scds.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id QAA02100; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 16:45:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 16:45:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199804142045.QAA02100@freebsd.scds.com> From: "Justin M. Seger" To: gnat@frii.com CC: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199804141450.IAA26379@prometheus.frii.com> (gnat@frii.com) Subject: Re: Libraries References: <199804131525.JAA21474@prometheus.frii.com> <199804140710.AAA02051@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> <199804141450.IAA26379@prometheus.frii.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Urk. What algorithm, then, should autoconf use to (a) find the j. random name of the library, (b) that library's include files, and (c) whether the library+include files are compatible with how it works? (c) is obviously "compile and run a test program" but what about (a) and (b)? Look at ports/graphics/ImageMagick. There are patches in the patches directory that make autoconf correctly identify tiff. TTYL, -Justin Seger- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 14 14:51:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23702 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:51:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailhost.iprg.nokia.com (mailhost.iprg.nokia.com [205.226.5.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA23651 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:51:38 GMT (envelope-from scott@iprg.nokia.com) Received: from melkor.iprg.nokia.com (melkor.iprg.nokia.com [205.226.1.82]) by mailhost.iprg.nokia.com (8.6.11/8.6.10) with SMTP id OAA07092; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:19:42 -0700 Message-ID: <3533D2A4.500F9F30@iprg.nokia.com> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:18:28 -0700 From: Scott Sewall Organization: Nokia Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-mozilla To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 14 18:14:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA06519 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:14:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from enaila.nidlink.com (root@enaila.nidlink.com [205.219.220.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA06511 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:14:43 GMT (envelope-from sworkman@nidlink.com) Received: from nidlink.com (pm3d3-42.nidlink.com [208.155.70.234]) by enaila.nidlink.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00702 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <35340A26.78744871@nidlink.com> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:15:18 +0000 From: Shawn Workman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Binaries Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Are there plans to supply a binary version of FreeBSD mozilla for those of us who don't have or can't afford Motif?? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 14 18:23:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA08580 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:23:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlogic.com.au [203.36.2.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA08018 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:21:47 GMT (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.7) id LAA08051; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:20:58 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199804150120.LAA08051@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: Binaries In-Reply-To: <35340A26.78744871@nidlink.com> from Shawn Workman at "Apr 15, 98 01:15:18 am" To: sworkman@nidlink.com (Shawn Workman) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:20:52 +1000 (EST) Cc: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Shawn Workman wrote: > Are there plans to supply a binary version of FreeBSD mozilla for those > of us who don't have or can't afford Motif?? This is possible. No promises. 8-) -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 14 18:25:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA09263 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:25:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebsd.scds.com (jseger.shore.net [204.167.102.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA08757 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:23:50 GMT (envelope-from jseger@freebsd.scds.com) Received: (from jseger@localhost) by freebsd.scds.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id VAA10413; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:30:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:30:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199804150130.VAA10413@freebsd.scds.com> From: "Justin M. Seger" To: sworkman@nidlink.com CC: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <35340A26.78744871@nidlink.com> (message from Shawn Workman on Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:15:18 +0000) Subject: Re: Binaries References: <35340A26.78744871@nidlink.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Are there plans to supply a binary version of FreeBSD mozilla for those of us who don't have or can't afford Motif?? It will be made a package, look on the ftp site. Satoshi rebuilds the stable packages every two weeks or so. I rebuild the current ones about once a month. TTYL, -Justin Seger- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 14 18:28:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA10435 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:28:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from northwest.com (root@port24.northwest.com [204.119.42.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA10427 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:27:52 GMT (envelope-from stevemw@northwest.com) Received: from fuji (stevemw@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by northwest.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA00735 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:26:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stevemw@fuji) Message-Id: <199804150126.SAA00735@northwest.com> To: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: GDB, Memory, and NSPR Threads? Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:26:18 -0700 From: Stephen Wynne Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 1. Does anyone have a set of hints about identifying and moving among NSPR threads on FreeBSD/Mozilla? 2. Is there any talk about extending GDB to understand NSPR threads? 3. I'm using more than 250MB of VM to run GDB on this thing. Is that normal? I'm stuck right now, so any replies to #1 would *really* be appreciated. Thanks, Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 14 18:47:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA12720 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:47:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Dorm-35959.RH.UH.EDU (Dorm-35959.RH.UH.EDU [129.7.140.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA12687 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:47:23 GMT (envelope-from wotan@Dorm-35959.RH.UH.EDU) Received: from localhost (wotan@localhost) by Dorm-35959.RH.UH.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA19295; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:46:59 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:46:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Jonathan Fosburgh Reply-To: jef53313@bayou.uh.edu To: "Justin M. Seger" cc: sworkman@nidlink.com, freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Binaries In-Reply-To: <199804150130.VAA10413@freebsd.scds.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I tried to use one of these (2.2.6R) today, but found the package simply too large. Is 60+ megs what Mozilla really requires for just the browser? Or does that give a full comunicator-like install. If it is not just the browser, is it possible we could see a stand-alone system at some point in time for those of us who lack the diskspace but would like to try Mozilla? On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Justin M. Seger wrote: > Are there plans to supply a binary version of FreeBSD mozilla for those > of us who don't have or can't afford Motif?? > > It will be made a package, look on the ftp site. Satoshi rebuilds the stable > packages every two weeks or so. I rebuild the current ones about once a month. > > TTYL, > -Justin Seger- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBNTQRkPx1aCmcyaTdAQGtsQH/WT/0nDFkuzsIQmR5fS2rYGowx+7yiiqO qo4GCO23QehWdcYATYXCrWVrnpO7HnzZLMAs6uazZCd4UdCxuJb9/Q== =Poke -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 14 18:50:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA13533 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:50:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebsd.scds.com (jseger.shore.net [204.167.102.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA13423 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:50:10 GMT (envelope-from jseger@freebsd.scds.com) Received: (from jseger@localhost) by freebsd.scds.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id VAA11319; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:56:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:56:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199804150156.VAA11319@freebsd.scds.com> From: "Justin M. Seger" To: jef53313@bayou.uh.edu CC: sworkman@nidlink.com, freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from Jonathan Fosburgh on Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:46:50 -0500 (CDT)) Subject: Re: Binaries References: Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I tried to use one of these (2.2.6R) today, but found the package simply too large. Is 60+ megs what Mozilla really requires for just the browser? Or does that give a full comunicator-like install. If it is not just the browser, is it possible we could see a stand-alone system at some point in time for those of us who lack the diskspace but would like to try Mozilla? It's a full communicator-like install. Currently mozilla is in alpha testing only. Unless you are planning on developing it (in which case you'll need Motif and the Mozilla sources), you should go with the netscape4-navigator port. TTYL, -Justin Seger- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 14 18:53:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA14447 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:53:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from m4.stox.sa.enteract.com (stox.sa.enteract.com [207.229.132.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA14148 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:52:06 GMT (envelope-from ken@stox.sa.enteract.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.stox.sa.enteract.com [127.0.0.1]) by m4.stox.sa.enteract.com (8.8.8/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA00627; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:51:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:51:56 -0500 (CDT) From: "Kenneth P. Stox" To: Shawn Workman cc: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Binaries In-Reply-To: <35340A26.78744871@nidlink.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Try lesstif. The current version from ftp.hungry.com is getting reasonably stable. I, along with many, are hoping this gives anough of a kick to lesstif to make it a viable replacement for Motif. The version of mozilla I have built is stable enough to use. It crashes almost as much as Windows 95, so I guess it must be pretty good. ;-> On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Shawn Workman wrote: > Are there plans to supply a binary version of FreeBSD mozilla for those > of us who don't have or can't afford Motif?? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 14 18:55:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA14985 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:55:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from terror.hungry.com (toshok@[199.181.107.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA14870 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:54:49 GMT (envelope-from toshok@Hungry.COM) Received: (from toshok@localhost) by terror.hungry.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) id SAA04804; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:54:49 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GDB, Memory, and NSPR Threads? References: <199804150126.SAA00735@northwest.com> From: Christoph Toshok Date: 14 Apr 1998 18:54:48 -0700 In-Reply-To: stevemw@northwest.com's message of 14 Apr 1998 18:28:18 -0700 Message-ID: Lines: 25 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG stevemw@northwest.com (Stephen Wynne) writes: > > 1. Does anyone have a set of hints about identifying and moving > among NSPR threads on FreeBSD/Mozilla? nope.. > 2. Is there any talk about extending GDB to understand NSPR threads? yeah, someone has brought it up on mozilla.general some days ago. don't know if they're moving on it, though. > 3. I'm using more than 250MB of VM to run GDB on this thing. Is > that normal? yes, if you have all the libraries built with debugging information. I wholeheartedly recommend not doing this. > I'm stuck right now, so any replies to #1 would *really* be > appreciated. what exactly are you trying to do? I mean, why do you want to pop between threads? Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 14 19:14:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA20131 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 19:14:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from northwest.com (root@port24.northwest.com [204.119.42.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA20044 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 02:13:57 GMT (envelope-from stevemw@northwest.com) Received: from fuji (stevemw@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by northwest.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA00969 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 19:12:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stevemw@fuji) Message-Id: <199804150212.TAA00969@northwest.com> To: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GDB, Memory, and NSPR Threads? In-reply-to: Your message of "14 Apr 1998 18:54:48 PDT." Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 19:12:24 -0700 From: Stephen Wynne Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , Christoph Toshok writes: yeah, someone has brought it up on mozilla.general some days ago. don't know if they're moving on it, though. Chris, Thanks for your reply. That someone would be I. And we didn't get a response (to that specific question) back from Brendan Eich in that thread, which is why I'm asking here. what exactly are you trying to do? I mean, why do you want to pop between threads? I want to walk through the code that handles plugins in order to more fully understand it. Also, when I start working on a plugin, I want to be able to set breakpoints in it and do the normal things I do with a debugger. Right now, I end up in the main thread (I think), and I never get the chance to enter the other ones. It's all very confusing still. Here's what Brendan advised in mozilla-general: I always end up memorizing the stack-pointer and program-counter offsets in the PRThread's jmpbuf or ucontext or whatever struct, printing them out (the current thread is pointed at by [_pr_currentThread], usually the same as mozilla_thread or lm_InterpretThread), setting $sp and $pc, and voila -- you've convinced gdb to switch threads. I think I might be able follow Brendan's advice if I knew how to find this alleged data structure that describes the threads. I don't know how to use his advice about "ucontext." I didn't see anything I could comprehend as a live thread map (is there such a thing?) when I looked at things declared as PRThread. Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 14 19:50:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA26492 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 19:50:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from terror.hungry.com (toshok@[199.181.107.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA26470 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 02:50:46 GMT (envelope-from toshok@Hungry.COM) Received: (from toshok@localhost) by terror.hungry.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) id TAA10538; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 19:50:45 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: GDB, Memory, and NSPR Threads? References: <199804150212.TAA00969@northwest.com> From: Christoph Toshok Date: 14 Apr 1998 19:50:45 -0700 In-Reply-To: stevemw@northwest.com's message of 14 Apr 1998 19:14:47 -0700 Message-ID: Lines: 58 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG stevemw@northwest.com (Stephen Wynne) writes: > > In message , Christoph Toshok writes: > > yeah, someone has brought it up on mozilla.general some days ago. > don't know if they're moving on it, though. > > Chris, > > Thanks for your reply. That someone would be I. And we didn't get a > response (to that specific question) back from Brendan Eich in that > thread, which is why I'm asking here. ahh... sorry for the confusion :) > what exactly are you trying to do? I mean, why do you want to pop > between threads? > > I want to walk through the code that handles plugins in order to more > fully understand it. Also, when I start working on a plugin, I want to > be able to set breakpoints in it and do the normal things I do with a > debugger. Right now, I end up in the main thread (I think), and I > never get the chance to enter the other ones. It's all very confusing > still. hmmm.. when I was debugging libmocha interactions with layout, setting breakpoints in mocha functions that were called on the mocha thread worked ok... I mean, I don't know anyone at netscape using unix that has ever been able to do what you want, and we've been reasonably (heh :) effective at debugging things... but nevertheless, information is always a good thing. > Here's what Brendan advised in mozilla-general: > > I always end up memorizing the stack-pointer and program-counter > offsets in the PRThread's jmpbuf or ucontext or whatever struct, > printing them out (the current thread is pointed at by > [_pr_currentThread], usually the same as mozilla_thread or > lm_InterpretThread), setting $sp and $pc, and voila -- you've > convinced gdb to switch threads. > > I think I might be able follow Brendan's advice if I knew how to find > this alleged data structure that describes the threads. I don't know > how to use his advice about "ucontext." I didn't see anything I could > comprehend as a live thread map (is there such a thing?) when I looked > at things declared as PRThread. look in nsprpub/include/md/_freebsd.h. ->md.context is a sigjmp_buf. This should have all the information you need (the stack pointer is ->md.context[0]._sjb[2], for instance). for the list of active threads (and the waitq links), look in nsprpub/pr/include/private/primpl.h. This file has the struct definition for PRThread in it. if you're not using pthreads (which freebsd doesn't), there are PRCLists that you can use. chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 14 19:52:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA26990 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 19:52:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from misfit.users.xmission.com (misfit.users.xmission.com [207.135.128.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA26919 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 02:52:05 GMT (envelope-from misfit@misfit.users.xmission.com) Received: (from misfit@localhost) by misfit.users.xmission.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id UAA00569; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:52:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from misfit) To: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/www/mozilla Makefile ports/www/mozilla/files netscape.sh ports/www/mozilla/pkg PLIST References: <199804140949.LAA11292@peedub.muc.de> <87lnt8adfw.fsf@ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: misfit@xmission.com (Anthony C. Chavez) Date: 14 Apr 1998 20:51:58 -0600 In-Reply-To: Thomas Gellekum's message of "14 Apr 1998 12:46:11 +0200" Message-ID: <87pvijn6ep.fsf@misfit.users.xmission.com> Lines: 8 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.3 - "Vatican City" Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thomas Gellekum writes: > teTeX-0.9 will make up for that when it's out. And when will that be? I, for one, have anxiously been awaiting this. -- Anthony C. Chavez To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 14 19:54:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA27489 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 19:54:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from misfit.users.xmission.com (misfit.users.xmission.com [207.135.128.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA27462 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 02:54:14 GMT (envelope-from misfit@misfit.users.xmission.com) Received: (from misfit@localhost) by misfit.users.xmission.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id UAA00579; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:54:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from misfit) To: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: oopsie Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: misfit@xmission.com (Anthony C. Chavez) Date: 14 Apr 1998 20:54:10 -0600 Message-ID: <87ogy3n6b1.fsf@misfit.users.xmission.com> Lines: 5 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.3 - "Vatican City" Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry for the double post to the list. Thought that it didn't receive my first. I'm just getting used to Gnus. :-) -- Anthony C. Chavez To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 14 20:00:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA28459 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:00:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from misfit.users.xmission.com (misfit.users.xmission.com [207.135.128.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA28408 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 03:00:00 GMT (envelope-from misfit@misfit.users.xmission.com) Received: (from misfit@localhost) by misfit.users.xmission.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id UAA00593; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:59:57 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from misfit) To: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Fonts and a bug Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: misfit@xmission.com (Anthony C. Chavez) Date: 14 Apr 1998 20:59:57 -0600 Message-ID: <87n2dnn61e.fsf@misfit.users.xmission.com> Lines: 6 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.3 - "Vatican City" Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is it just me or do the fonts that Netscape uses SUCK HARD? Also, I don't know if anyone else has experienced the sticking Bookmarks button on the toolbar, but I've noticed it happening when I access a bookmark that's been nested pretty deeply in a chain of folders. It's happened on other occasions as well. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 14 21:52:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA17508 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:52:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA17502 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 04:52:40 GMT (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from bubble.didi.com (ala-ca34-37.ix.netcom.com [207.93.143.165]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA28834; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:52:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by bubble.didi.com (8.8.7/8.8.8) id VAA03549; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:52:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199804150452.VAA03549@bubble.didi.com> To: sworkman@nidlink.com CC: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <35340A26.78744871@nidlink.com> (message from Shawn Workman on Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:15:18 +0000) Subject: Re: Binaries From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Are there plans to supply a binary version of FreeBSD mozilla for those * of us who don't have or can't afford Motif?? I built one yesterday and put it up in packages-stable. I also announced it here. You joined late? :) Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Tue Apr 14 21:54:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA17985 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:54:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA17857 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 04:54:16 GMT (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from bubble.didi.com (ala-ca34-37.ix.netcom.com [207.93.143.165]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA28838; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:54:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by bubble.didi.com (8.8.7/8.8.8) id VAA03555; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:54:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199804150454.VAA03555@bubble.didi.com> To: ken@stox.sa.enteract.com CC: sworkman@nidlink.com, freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (ken@stox.sa.enteract.com) Subject: Re: Binaries From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Try lesstif. The current version from ftp.hungry.com is getting reasonably * stable. I, along with many, are hoping this gives anough of a kick to I'm hoping someone will make a mozilla-qt port. I heard it's very slick. * lesstif to make it a viable replacement for Motif. The version of mozilla * I have built is stable enough to use. It crashes almost as much as Windows * 95, so I guess it must be pretty good. ;-> You mean it's pretty bad, right? :> Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Wed Apr 15 00:25:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA26230 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 00:25:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mrelay.jrc.it (mrelay.jrc.it [139.191.1.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA26218 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 07:25:01 GMT (envelope-from dirk.vangulik@jrc.it) Received: from elec.isei.jrc.it (elec.jrc.it [139.191.71.132]) by mrelay.jrc.it (LMC5688) with SMTP id JAA15556; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:24:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from elect6 by elec.isei.jrc.it (4.1/EI-3.0m) id AA24605; Wed, 15 Apr 98 09:24:57 +0200 Posted-Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:21:35 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:21:35 +0200 (MET DST) From: Dirk-Willem van Gulik X-Sender: dirkx@elect6 To: "Kenneth P. Stox" Cc: Shawn Workman , freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Binaries In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Kenneth P. Stox wrote: > Try lesstif. The current version from ftp.hungry.com is getting reasonably > stable. I, along with many, are hoping this gives anough of a kick to > lesstif to make it a viable replacement for Motif. The version of mozilla > I have built is stable enough to use. It crashes almost as much as Windows > 95, so I guess it must be pretty good. ;-> I found the same thing; Mozilla will build and run just fine.. and stumbles over and gets up just as easily. Dw To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Wed Apr 15 03:14:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA17214 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 03:14:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tokyonet-entrance.astec.co.jp (tokyonet-entrance.astec.co.jp [202.239.16.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17204; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:14:30 GMT (envelope-from hanai@astec.co.jp) Received: from amont.astec.co.jp (amont.astec.co.jp [172.20.10.1]) by tokyonet-entrance.astec.co.jp (8.8.8+2.7Wbeta7/3.6W-astecMX2.3) with ESMTP id TAA29353; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 19:14:28 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (elpibe.astec.co.jp [172.20.21.82]) by amont.astec.co.jp (8.7.6/3.6W-astecMX2.4) with ESMTP id TAA17785; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 19:14:27 +0900 (JST) To: asami@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: ken@stox.sa.enteract.com, sworkman@nidlink.com, freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Binaries From: Hiroyuki HANAI In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:54:06 -0700 (PDT)" <199804150454.VAA03555@bubble.didi.com> References: <199804150454.VAA03555@bubble.didi.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.92.4 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19980415191424Z.hanai@astec.co.jp> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 19:14:24 +0900 X-Dispatcher: imput version 971024 Lines: 11 Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 14 Apr 1998 , Satoshi wrote: > I'm hoping someone will make a mozilla-qt port. I heard it's very slick. I've also succeeded in building mozilla with qt and it is actually slick! though many functions have not yet been implemented. Also, multilingualization is a big problem for multibyte-charcter-users. Errrr..... -- Hiroyuki HANAI =-= Be cool! =-= hanai@astec.co.jp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Wed Apr 15 08:27:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA19304 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 08:27:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu [130.126.72.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19299 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:27:19 GMT (envelope-from dannyman@arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu) Received: (from dannyman@localhost) by arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) id KAA22185; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:27:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19980415102719.13977@urh.uiuc.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:27:19 -0500 From: dannyman Cc: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Binaries References: <199804150454.VAA03555@bubble.didi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <199804150454.VAA03555@bubble.didi.com>; from Satoshi Asami on Tue, Apr 14, 1998 at 09:54:06PM -0700 X-Loop: djhoward@uiuc.edu X-URL: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Apr 14, 1998 at 09:54:06PM -0700, Satoshi Asami wrote: > * Try lesstif. The current version from ftp.hungry.com is getting reasonably > * stable. I, along with many, are hoping this gives anough of a kick to > > I'm hoping someone will make a mozilla-qt port. I heard it's very slick. The linux version of it I'm running is very slick, even if it's a bit flakey and unstable. Not bad for hacked Alpha though. :) I'd like to track a qt branch in the cvs tree. -- dannyman FreeBSD/Amiga ** http://www.dannyland.org/~dannyman/ EnterAct: #1 ISP in Illinois! ** http://www.enteract.com/ Tel: 773 248 8511 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Wed Apr 15 08:48:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA24016 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 08:48:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23996 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:48:20 GMT (envelope-from Mailer-Daemon@East.Sun.COM) Received: from East.Sun.COM ([129.148.1.241]) by mercury.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/mail.byaddr) with SMTP id IAA01513; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 08:47:43 -0700 Received: from suneast.East.Sun.COM by East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-5.3) id LAA07876; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:47:38 -0400 Received: from compound.east.sun.com by suneast.East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA23595; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:47:36 -0400 Received: (from alk@localhost) by compound.east.sun.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) id KAA18917; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:49:14 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:49:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199804151549.KAA18917@compound.east.sun.com> From: Tony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Face: O9M"E%K;(f-Go/XDxL+pCxI5*gr[=FN@Y`cl1.Tn Reply-To: alk@pobox.com To: dannyman@dannyland.org Cc: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Binaries References: <199804150454.VAA03555@bubble.didi.com> <19980415102719.13977@urh.uiuc.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoth dannyman on Wed, 15 April: : : I'd like to track a qt branch in the cvs tree. : I don't see any reason for a branch. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Wed Apr 15 17:36:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA10503 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:36:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kong.dorms.spbu.ru (kong@kong.dorms.spbu.ru [195.19.252.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA10115 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:35:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kong@kong.spb.ru) Received: from localhost (kong@localhost) by kong.dorms.spbu.ru (8.8.8/kong/0.01) with SMTP id EAA00279 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 04:34:47 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from kong@kong.spb.ru) Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 04:34:47 +0400 (MSD) From: Hostas Red X-Sender: kong@kong.dorms.spbu.ru To: mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Any changes? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! Is there any changes supposed to be in cvs-mozilla tree? At least patches from ports/www/mozilla? Can't get any since i've got a mozilla source tree few days ago from mozilla.freebsd.org... Adios, /KONG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Wed Apr 15 19:22:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA01730 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 19:22:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu [130.126.72.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA01684 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 19:22:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dannyman@arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu) Received: (from dannyman@localhost) by arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) id VAA03253; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 21:22:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19980415212221.41433@urh.uiuc.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 21:22:21 -0500 From: dannyman To: suggestions@mozilla.org Cc: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: freebsd-mozilla mailing list Mail-Followup-To: suggestions@mozilla.org, freebsd-mozilla@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i X-Loop: djhoward@uiuc.edu X-URL: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG there currently exists a mailing list for the freebsd version of mozilla, coordinated through the FreeBSD Mozilla Group at http://www.freebsd.org/mozilla.html - perhaps they can be included on your list of email lists, or perhaps you might want to coordinate efforts to create appropriate aliases to/from mozilla.org and freebsd.org? Also, i am preparing a news release regarding the group's CVS source code repository. Would there be any interest on your part in receiving a copy? I am currently fishing for information on cooperation between FreeBSD and Mozilla on a similiar project for Mozilla to distribute the whole of the source code in a similiarly efficient manner. :) thank you for your time, dan -- // dannyman yori aiokomete || Our Honored Symbol deserves \\/ http://www.dannyland.org/~dannyman/ || an Honorable Retirement (UIUC) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Wed Apr 15 21:14:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA25610 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 21:14:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu [130.126.72.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA25533 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 21:14:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dannyman@arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu) Received: (from dannyman@localhost) by arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) id XAA02608; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 23:14:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19980415231410.19454@urh.uiuc.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 23:14:10 -0500 From: dannyman To: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: PR draft - help me :) Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mozilla@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="hf+7KOe/ywvOmOzS" X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i X-Loop: djhoward@uiuc.edu X-URL: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --hf+7KOe/ywvOmOzS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii i want this to go out tomorrow. things i could use ASAP; info on cooperation from FreeBSD in helping Mozilla establish CVS distribution anyone who wants to volunteer a quote about CVS/Mozilla/etc ... (see attachment) thank guys, and sorry for the delay! :) -- // dannyman yori aiokomete || Our Honored Symbol deserves \\/ http://www.dannyland.org/~dannyman/ || an Honorable Retirement (UIUC) --hf+7KOe/ywvOmOzS Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="btw275-mozilla.txt" Thursday, April 16 1998 -- For Immediate Release FREEBSD MOZILLA GROUP ESTABLISHES CVS ARCHIVE FreeBSD users serious about Mozilla development ============================================================================= Following the establishment of the FreeBSD Mozilla Group and a centralized CVS file archive over the past weekend, FreeBSD users can now track changes to Netscape Communicator's Mozilla source code with ease. The FreeBSD Mozilla Group has been established in order to coordinate development of Netscape's next-generation web browser, dubbed "Mozilla", for the FreeBSD platform. Following the recent release of the source code to Mozilla, several free software groups have organized to become actively involved in helping Netscape to develop the product. FreeBSD has taken a lead in establishing a centralized file repository for tracking changes to the Mozilla source code submitted by its developers. CVS is already widely used by the FreeBSD Project to coordinate changes in the source code to the operating system, enabling developers to keep track as new revisions and features are added, and to experiment with different branches of development. CVS is also useful to users who can easily update their local copies of the source code through client programs which automatically download and apply the various changes, or "patches" as they are made. Many FreeBSD users have viewed the move as a positive and useful step, and hope that the continued widespread use and convenience of CVS may help attract users to the platform, which is often overshadowed by the similar and more widely recognized Linux operating system. ::insert quote here:: ::possibly mention uproar over news.com article:: ::information on somebody from FreeBSD helping mozilla launch something similar here:: Information on accessing the file archive, which can be browsed through the web, is available on the FreeBSD Mozilla Group's web site at http://www.freebsd.org/mozilla.html. The site contains information about the project, including a mailing list and instructions on synchronizing source trees through tools like CVSup, as well as links to information on using CVS for other applications. FreeBSD is a 4.4BSD-Lite based operating system for Intel architecture (x86) based PCs. FreeBSD and its source code is freely distributed through the Internet and is available on CD-ROM from Walnut Creek CDROM. (http://www.cdrom.com/) Development, support, documentation and distribution of FreeBSD is coordinated through FreeBSD Inc. (http://www.freebsd.org/) --hf+7KOe/ywvOmOzS-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Wed Apr 15 22:03:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA05264 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 22:03:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dns01.ops.usa.net (dns01.ops.usa.net [204.68.24.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA05211 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 22:03:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fleshcrafter@usa.net) Received: (qmail 29628 invoked by alias); 16 Apr 1998 05:02:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 17716 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1998 02:33:55 -0000 Received: from user-38lcc6b.dialup.mindspring.com (HELO chris) (209.86.48.203) by dns01.ops.usa.net with SMTP; 16 Apr 1998 02:33:55 -0000 Message-ID: <002501bd69a9$f4afe6c0$cb3056d1@chris> From: "Fleshcrafter" To: Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:38:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-mozilla To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Wed Apr 15 23:35:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA28098 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 23:35:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cicero1.cybercity.dk (cicero1.cybercity.dk [195.8.135.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA28076 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 23:34:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sch@cybercity.dk) Received: from www.cybercity.dk (www.cybercity.dk [195.8.128.19]) by cicero1.cybercity.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA12049 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:30:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sch@cybercity.dk) Received: from dot2 (dot2.cybercity.dk [195.8.135.71]) by www.cybercity.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA26064 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:29:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sch@cybercity.dk) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980416083525.00b746c0@www.cybercity.dk> X-Mailer: xenix-mail v0.9b2, 8080 128kb Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:35:25 +0200 To: FreeBSD-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG From: Soeren Schroeder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe end +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Soeren Schroeder - Sysadm Cybercity Internet | | mailto:sch@cybercity.dk - PGP key available upon request | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ * a day not wasted is a day wasted * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Thu Apr 16 00:45:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA10368 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 00:45:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from optima-inv.dp.ua (optima-inv.dp.ua [195.248.160.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA10340 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 00:44:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kot@optima-inv.dp.ua) Received: from optima-inv.dp.ua (invest.inv.dp.ua [192.168.1.1]) by optima-inv.dp.ua (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA22945 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:52:36 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <3535B8C4.41C67EA6@optima-inv.dp.ua> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 07:52:36 +0000 From: Andrey Kotrekhov X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Any changes? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! Can I get source of netscape for FreeBSD2.2.5-R? If yes, where? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Thu Apr 16 01:43:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA17334 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 01:43:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.extech.msk.su (ns.extech.msk.su [193.124.244.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA17327 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 01:43:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garry@extech.msk.su) Received: from expert.extech.msk.su (expert.extech.msk.su [193.124.244.38]) by ns.extech.msk.su (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA07039 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 12:43:44 +0400 (MSD) Received: from EXPERT/SpoolDir by expert.extech.msk.su (Mercury 1.21); 16 Apr 98 12:43:44 +0300 Received: from SpoolDir by EXPERT (Mercury 1.30); 16 Apr 98 12:43:24 +0300 Received: from max.extech.msk.su by expert.extech.msk.su (Mercury 1.30); 16 Apr 98 12:43:21 +0300 Message-ID: <001101bd690b$0de1cae0$45f47cc1@max.extech.msk.su> From: "garry" To: Subject: subscribe FreeBSD-MOZILLA Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:41:22 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe FreeBSD-MOZILLA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Thu Apr 16 08:25:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA24331 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:25:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rfcnet.com (mattc@rfcnet.com [207.227.20.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA24318 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:25:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mattc@rfcnet.com) Received: (from mattc@localhost) by rfcnet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06821; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:25:44 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mattc) Message-ID: <19980416102544.33801@rfcnet.com> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:25:44 -0500 From: Matthew Cashdollar To: dannyman , freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PR draft - help me :) References: <19980415231410.19454@urh.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <19980415231410.19454@urh.uiuc.edu>; from dannyman on Wed, Apr 15, 1998 at 11:14:10PM -0500 x-no-archive: yes Organization: RF Communications, Inc. http://www.rfcinc.com Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Apr 15, 1998 at 11:14:10PM -0500, dannyman wrote: > Many FreeBSD users have viewed the move as a positive and useful step, and > hope that the continued widespread use and convenience of CVS may help > attract users to the platform, which is often overshadowed by the similar > and more widely recognized Linux operating system. ::insert quote here:: > ::possibly mention uproar over news.com article:: Okay, be careful not to start a war though. :) Looks good to me.. -- Matthew Cashdollar RF Communications, Inc. -- http://www.rfcinc.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Thu Apr 16 08:40:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA27104 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:40:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA27098 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:40:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:40:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04093; Thu, 16 Apr 98 11:40:09 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA23301; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:39:34 -0400 Message-Id: <19980416113836.A23234@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:38:36 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: java@FreeBSD.ORG, netscape@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Freeware JVM & Class Libs Mail-Followup-To: java@freebsd.org, netscape@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This may be old news to the folks on the list -- I don't know. But I noticed over lunch in the inside cover of this week's InfoWorld, there was a blurb on the Javasoft reorg and how the Freeware community might one-up them with reimplementations of their products. Anyway, here are the URLs they mentioned. http://www.hungry.com - Freeware Java Virtual Machine http://www.kore.org - Freeware Java class libs (suspect; at first glance, I didn't see them) May or may not be useful as an less restricted Mozilla JVM replacement. Randall Hopper To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Thu Apr 16 12:13:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA13741 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 12:13:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from asteroid.svib.ru (root@asteroid.svib.ru [195.151.166.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13720; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:13:01 GMT (envelope-from tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru) Received: from minas-tirith.pol.ru (shuttle.svib.ru [195.151.166.144]) by asteroid.svib.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA05990; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 23:12:39 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru) Received: from minas-tirith.pol.ru (minas-tirith.pol.ru [127.0.0.1]) by minas-tirith.pol.ru (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA16353; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 23:13:51 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from tarkhil@minas-tirith.pol.ru) Message-Id: <199804161913.XAA16353@minas-tirith.pol.ru> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG cc: mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru Subject: Building current qt with shared library Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 23:13:50 +0400 From: Alex Povolotsky Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! Did anyone build current snapshot of QT on current FreeBSD? It doesn't build out-of-the-box, and I don't know internals of dynamic lincing enough :-( Alex. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Thu Apr 16 13:46:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA27014 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 13:46:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA26983; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:46:17 GMT (envelope-from Mailer-Daemon@East.Sun.COM) Received: from East.Sun.COM ([129.148.1.241]) by mercury.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/mail.byaddr) with SMTP id NAA07035; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 13:45:45 -0700 Received: from suneast.East.Sun.COM by East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-5.3) id QAA00206; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:45:42 -0400 Received: from compound.east.sun.com by suneast.East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA25321; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:45:41 -0400 Received: (from alk@localhost) by compound.east.sun.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) id PAA03496; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:45:51 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:45:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199804162045.PAA03496@compound.east.sun.com> From: Tony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Face: O9M"E%K;(f-Go/XDxL+pCxI5*gr[=FN@Y`cl1.Tn Reply-To: alk@pobox.com To: tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Building current qt with shared library References: <199804161913.XAA16353@minas-tirith.pol.ru> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoth Alex Povolotsky on Thu, 16 April: : Hello! : : Did anyone build current snapshot of QT on current FreeBSD? It doesn't build : out-of-the-box, and I don't know internals of dynamic lincing enough :-( : add -Bshareable to the ld line. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Thu Apr 16 14:27:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09739 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 14:27:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peedub.muc.de (newpc.muc.ditec.de [194.120.126.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA09365; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:26:23 GMT (envelope-from garyj@peedub.muc.de) Received: from peedub.muc.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peedub.muc.de (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA00706; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 23:26:06 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199804162126.XAA00706@peedub.muc.de> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Building current qt with shared library Reply-To: Gary Jennejohn In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Apr 1998 23:13:50 +0400." <199804161913.XAA16353@minas-tirith.pol.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 23:26:05 +0200 From: Gary Jennejohn Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alex Povolotsky writes: >Hello! > >Did anyone build current snapshot of QT on current FreeBSD? It doesn't build >out-of-the-box, and I don't know internals of dynamic lincing enough :-( > I made it a few days ago. Try using this freebsd-gcc-shared instead of the one in the distribution. # Compiling SYSCONF_CC = c++ -pipe # Compiling with support libraries SYSCONF_CFLAGS_X11 = -I/usr/X11R6/include SYSCONF_CFLAGS_QT = -I$(QTDIR)/include -I/usr/X11R6/include SYSCONF_CFLAGS_OPENGL = -I/usr/X11R6/include # Linking with support libraries # X11 SYSCONF_LFLAGS_X11 = -L/usr/X11R6/lib SYSCONF_LIBS_X11 = -lX11 # Qt, Qt+OpenGL SYSCONF_LFLAGS_QT = -L$(QTDIR)/lib SYSCONF_LIBS_QT = -lqt SYSCONF_LIBS_QT_OPENGL = -lqgl # OpenGL SYSCONF_LFLAGS_OPENGL = -L/usr/X11R6/lib SYSCONF_LIBS_OPENGL = -lMesaGL -lMesaGLU -lXmu -lXext -lm # Linking applications SYSCONF_LINK = gcc SYSCONF_LFLAGS = SYSCONF_LIBS = # Meta-object compiler SYSCONF_MOC = moc # Compiling application source SYSCONF_CFLAGS = -O2 -fno-strength-reduce # Compiling library source SYSCONF_CFLAGS_LIB = -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -fPIC # Compiling shared-object source SYSCONF_CFLAGS_SHOBJ = -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -fPIC # Linking libraries # - Build the $(TARGET) library, eg. lib$(TARGET).a # - Place target in $(DESTDIR) - which has a trailing / # - May need to incorporate $(VER_MAJ) and $(VER_MIN) for shared libraries. # SYSCONF_LINK_SHLIB = ld -Bshareable SYSCONF_LINK_TARGET = lib$(TARGET).so.$(VER_MAJ).$(VER_MIN) SYSCONF_LINK_LIB = $(SYSCONF_LINK_SHLIB) $(LFLAGS) -o $(SYSCONF_LINK_TARGET) `lorder /usr/lib/c++rt0.o $(OBJECTS) $(OBJMOC) | tsort` $(LIBS); \ mv $(SYSCONF_LINK_TARGET) $(DESTDIR); \ cd $(DESTDIR); \ rm -f lib$(TARGET).so lib$(TARGET).so.$(VER_MAJ); \ ln -s $(SYSCONF_LINK_TARGET) lib$(TARGET).so; \ ln -s $(SYSCONF_LINK_TARGET) lib$(TARGET).so.$(VER_MAJ) --- Gary Jennejohn Home - garyj@muc.de Work - garyj@fkr.dec.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Thu Apr 16 14:34:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA12834 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 14:34:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop1.gmx.net (qmailr@pop1.gmx.net [194.97.64.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA09588 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:26:59 GMT (envelope-from sirabyss@gmx.net) Message-Id: <199804162126.VAA09588@hub.freebsd.org> Received: (qmail 11035 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1998 21:26:06 -0000 Received: from port-081.herrenberg.netsurf.de (HELO danielh) (194.163.121.81) by pop1.gmx.net with SMTP; 16 Apr 1998 21:26:06 -0000 X-Sender: danielh@mail.herrenberg.netsurf.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Demo Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 23:27:04 +0200 To: FreeBSD-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG From: Daniel Haischt Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe FreeBSD-FreeBSD-mozilla@freebsd.org ====================================================== Dedicated to DIABLO I & the upcoming DIABLO II? Visit: http://www.abyssworld.org for more infos... ====================================================== contacts: phone: +49 7032-992910                  (yea thats Germany and costs u                  a lot if u call from outside)            Mail: sirabyss@gmx.net                  cyberodin@abyssworld.org             ICQ: 7311831            DING: whodp://ding.activerse.com/LordAbyss To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Thu Apr 16 15:23:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26048 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:23:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from terror.hungry.com (toshok@[199.181.107.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA26028 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:23:05 GMT (envelope-from toshok@Hungry.COM) Received: (from toshok@localhost) by terror.hungry.com (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id PAA27954; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:23:02 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: mozilla.org From: Christoph Toshok Date: 16 Apr 1998 15:23:02 -0700 Message-ID: Lines: 10 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG so, there's been a lot of discussion about the freebsd-mozilla stuff around netscape today (mostly after the press release mail.) they'd really like to fold the freebsd stuff into mozilla.org if this is possible, meaning moving (or at least gatewaying) the freebsd-mozilla list over to mozilla.org, and in general presenting more of a presence on the mozilla.org site. christoph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Thu Apr 16 15:28:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA27602 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:28:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop1.gmx.net (qmailr@pop1.gmx.net [194.97.64.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA27436 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:28:19 GMT (envelope-from sirabyss@gmx.net) Message-Id: <199804162228.WAA27436@hub.freebsd.org> Received: (qmail 11035 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1998 21:26:06 -0000 Received: from port-081.herrenberg.netsurf.de (HELO danielh) (194.163.121.81) by pop1.gmx.net with SMTP; 16 Apr 1998 21:26:06 -0000 X-Sender: danielh@mail.herrenberg.netsurf.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Demo Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 23:27:04 +0200 To: FreeBSD-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG From: Daniel Haischt Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe FreeBSD-FreeBSD-mozilla@freebsd.org ====================================================== Dedicated to DIABLO I & the upcoming DIABLO II? Visit: http://www.abyssworld.org for more infos... ====================================================== contacts: phone: +49 7032-992910                  (yea thats Germany and costs u                  a lot if u call from outside)            Mail: sirabyss@gmx.net                  cyberodin@abyssworld.org             ICQ: 7311831            DING: whodp://ding.activerse.com/LordAbyss To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Thu Apr 16 15:30:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA28407 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:30:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu [130.126.72.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA28301 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:30:30 GMT (envelope-from dannyman@arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu) Received: (from dannyman@localhost) by arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) id RAA06449; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:30:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19980416173028.44809@urh.uiuc.edu> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:30:28 -0500 From: dannyman To: Christoph Toshok , freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mozilla.org Mail-Followup-To: Christoph Toshok , freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Christoph Toshok on Thu, Apr 16, 1998 at 03:23:02PM -0700 X-Loop: djhoward@uiuc.edu X-URL: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Apr 16, 1998 at 03:23:02PM -0700, Christoph Toshok wrote: > so, there's been a lot of discussion about the freebsd-mozilla stuff > around netscape today (mostly after the press release mail.) Oh? Did I create a ripple, or is this another topic. > they'd really like to fold the freebsd stuff into mozilla.org if this > is possible, meaning moving (or at least gatewaying) the > freebsd-mozilla list over to mozilla.org, and in general presenting > more of a presence on the mozilla.org site. imho, it would be cool to have a mozilla-freebsd@mozilla.org == freebsd-mozilla@freebsd.org :D who are 'they' ? who are they talking too. I've heard very little from anyone ... -- // dannyman yori aiokomete || Our Honored Symbol deserves \\/ http://www.dannyland.org/~dannyman/ || an Honorable Retirement (UIUC) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Thu Apr 16 15:50:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03504 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:50:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlogic.com.au [203.36.2.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA03339 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:49:48 GMT (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.7) id IAA06553; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 08:48:50 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199804162248.IAA06553@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: mozilla.org In-Reply-To: from Christoph Toshok at "Apr 16, 98 03:23:02 pm" To: toshok@Hungry.COM (Christoph Toshok) Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 08:48:50 +1000 (EST) Cc: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Christoph Toshok wrote: > > so, there's been a lot of discussion about the freebsd-mozilla stuff > around netscape today (mostly after the press release mail.) > > they'd really like to fold the freebsd stuff into mozilla.org if this > is possible, meaning moving (or at least gatewaying) the > freebsd-mozilla list over to mozilla.org, and in general presenting > more of a presence on the mozilla.org site. The FreeBSD list really goes with the FreeBSD CVS repository that is now being mirrored out to other FreeBSD sites. Neither are intended to replace the mozilla.org lists/src. I personally don't want to be subscribed to a list that has Win, Linux, HP etc traffic on it because I get enough email already. I tried subscribing to the mozilla.org lists soon after the source was released, but the traffic was too great. Maybe that has changed, or maybe you are prepared to keep freebsd-mozilla as a FreeBSD specific list. I rely on other FreeBSD people to monitor the mozilla.org lists and act accordingly. I guess it would be possible to forward freebsd-mozilla@freebsd.org mail to freebsd-mozilla@mozilla.org and not run the list on a FreeBSD site at all. It all depends on how active mozilla.org is going to be. More active that Sun, I hope. -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Thu Apr 16 17:32:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27102 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:32:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from terror.hungry.com (toshok@[199.181.107.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA27097 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 00:32:28 GMT (envelope-from toshok@Hungry.COM) Received: (from toshok@localhost) by terror.hungry.com (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id RAA05016; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:32:18 -0700 (PDT) To: jb@cimlogic.com.au (John Birrell) cc: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mozilla.org References: <199804162248.IAA06553@cimlogic.com.au> From: Christoph Toshok Date: 16 Apr 1998 17:32:18 -0700 In-Reply-To: jb@cimlogic.com.au's message of 16 Apr 1998 15:51:46 -0700 Message-ID: Lines: 34 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG jb@cimlogic.com.au (John Birrell) writes: > > Christoph Toshok wrote: > > > > so, there's been a lot of discussion about the freebsd-mozilla stuff > > around netscape today (mostly after the press release mail.) > > > > they'd really like to fold the freebsd stuff into mozilla.org if this > > is possible, meaning moving (or at least gatewaying) the > > freebsd-mozilla list over to mozilla.org, and in general presenting > > more of a presence on the mozilla.org site. > > The FreeBSD list really goes with the FreeBSD CVS repository that is > now being mirrored out to other FreeBSD sites. Neither are intended to > replace the mozilla.org lists/src. > > I personally don't want to be subscribed to a list that has Win, Linux, > HP etc traffic on it because I get enough email already. I tried > subscribing to the mozilla.org lists soon after the source was released, > but the traffic was too great. Maybe that has changed, or maybe you > are prepared to keep freebsd-mozilla as a FreeBSD specific list. > I rely on other FreeBSD people to monitor the mozilla.org lists and > act accordingly. that would be the point -- there would be a freebsd specific list. > I guess it would be possible to forward freebsd-mozilla@freebsd.org > mail to freebsd-mozilla@mozilla.org and not run the list on a FreeBSD > site at all. It all depends on how active mozilla.org is going to be. > More active that Sun, I hope. yes. no worries there :) xtoph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Fri Apr 17 03:34:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA24728 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 03:34:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from luckssv.lucksnet.or.jp (luckssv.tsuyama.lucksnet.or.jp [202.235.120.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA24722 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 10:34:35 GMT (envelope-from sada@lucksnet.or.jp) Received: from lucksnet.or.jp (as109.tsuyama.lucksnet.or.jp [202.235.121.202]) by luckssv.lucksnet.or.jp (8.6.12+2.4W/CF3.4W-LUCKSNET-V1.00/96020510) with ESMTP id TAA24811 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 19:34:33 +0900 Message-ID: <35372F9B.4881C88D@lucksnet.or.jp> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 19:31:55 +0900 From: Makoto Sadakane X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [ja] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: mozilla Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe FreeBSD-mozilla@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Fri Apr 17 07:00:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA25115 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:00:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bbs.mpcs.com (bbs.mpcs.com [204.215.226.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA25099; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 14:00:14 GMT (envelope-from hgoldste@bbs.mpcs.com) Received: (from hgoldste@localhost) by bbs.mpcs.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/MPCS spamzap) id JAA12710; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 09:59:48 -0400 Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 09:59:48 -0400 From: Howard Goldstein Message-Id: <199804171359.JAA12710@bbs.mpcs.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Subject: Re: netscape 4 status? In-Reply-To: Reply-To: hgoldste@bbs.mpcs.com Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug White followed up to me in freebsd-questions: : : On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Howard Goldstein wrote in freebsd-questions: : > When I last visited the netscape 4.x many months ago it had some weird : > problem where one had to manually remove some files and accept the : > license agreement each time it was invoked lest it lock up. [updating myself: as another mentioned, this is fixed, at least it is on the 4.05 release pulled out of ports-current running on 2.2.6R. My earlier bad experience was with a 4.x beta and 2.2.5R] : Well, now that we have the source, we can track down and kill this : properly. This is quite exciting for the new friendliness features we can add. Ahhh I see the mozilla port there but that old motif-needed bugaboo. Wish: If someone were to ask I'd say let's loose the .gif animations and also see if there's a way to pipe Expires: headers (or heck entire html...) for filtering through an external script, kind of like the way squid can pass URLs through a filter for redirection... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Fri Apr 17 08:07:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07467 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 08:07:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ms11.hinet.net (root@ms11.hinet.net [168.95.4.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07448 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 15:06:55 GMT (envelope-from jwlo@ms11.hinet.net) Received: from ms11.hinet.net (h111.s7.ts32.hinet.net [163.32.7.111]) by ms11.hinet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA27520 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 23:09:20 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <35376F30.5F65B7C0@ms11.hinet.net> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 23:03:12 +0800 From: Doug Lo Reply-To: jwlo@ms11.hinet.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Compile Mozilla: Should I need Motif or not? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I want to dowload and compile mozilla, should I need motif or just need lesstif? Best regards, Doug. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Fri Apr 17 08:12:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08666 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 08:12:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mrelay.jrc.it (mrelay.jrc.it [139.191.1.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08505 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 15:11:56 GMT (envelope-from dirk.vangulik@jrc.it) Received: from elec.isei.jrc.it (elec.jrc.it [139.191.71.132]) by mrelay.jrc.it (LMC5688) with SMTP id RAA22668; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 17:11:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from elect6 by elec.isei.jrc.it (4.1/EI-3.0m) id AA17808; Fri, 17 Apr 98 17:11:53 +0200 Posted-Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 17:08:28 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 17:08:28 +0200 (MET DST) From: Dirk-Willem van Gulik X-Sender: dirkx@elect6 To: Doug Lo Cc: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Compile Mozilla: Should I need Motif or not? In-Reply-To: <35376F30.5F65B7C0@ms11.hinet.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, Doug Lo wrote: > I want to dowload and compile mozilla, should I need motif or just need > lesstif? Worked for me with lesstif. Dw To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Fri Apr 17 20:37:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA20019 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 20:37:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aniwa.sky (aniwa.actrix.gen.nz [203.96.56.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA19929 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 03:37:02 GMT (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) Received: from [192.168.1.1] (cloud9.sky [192.168.1.1]) by aniwa.sky (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA06547 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 15:34:44 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) X-Sender: andrew@pop.sky Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 15:38:27 +1200 To: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG From: andrew@squiz.co.nz (Andrew McNaughton) Subject: Re: netscape 4 status? Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 1:59 AM 18/4/98, Howard Goldstein wrote: >Wish: If someone were to ask I'd say let's loose the .gif animations As an option only. (which MSIE does) I'm doing web development. I want my development machine similar to the server, but I also want what I see in my browser to match as closely as possible what typical users see. There's lots of UI changes I'd like to see, but if rendering of pages is not reasonably standard it's of little value to me. Some things on my wish list: Make acceptance of cookies, javascript, java, plugins, gif animations, even images customizable by site. As I imagine it when I get one of these from a new site netscape asks whether I want to accept one of the above, I'd like radio buttons to decide whether to accept it or not, and a checkbox to say don't ask about this site next time. Doing it by the page might be nice for pages with buggy java programs and such like where you still want to use the features of the rest of the site, so maybe two checkboxes, or a radio button selection including 'always ask'. There'd be cases where it would be nice to do it by domain, or by subsection of the site, but this would be less important, and probably degenerate into a cluttered interface. There would also need to be a way to bring up a dialog to change the acceptance options for the site of the current page. It should of course be possible to always accept or deny stuff by default, and then change this for individual sites. Make the server the Search button takes you to customizable. Make the tool bar strip smaller when shown as pictures or text only. Make both the Search and guide buttons removable. Perhaps just move these to the Personal toolbar. Put the option to turn images on or off back in a menu. It's awkward going into the preferences for this all the time. Put an Add bookmark item into every sub menu of the hierarchical bookmarks menu. Allow for collabra to view multiple newsgroups at the same time. Add Hierarchical menus of mailboxes. Make it possible to copy text from the navigator window using the Xwindows middle mouse button convention. Ability to call local programs, probably using something closely approximating the CGI calling convention, without a server in between. In fact on a unix box you'd probably just run a server, but a cross platform approach to this would make it possible to write locally run, cross platform applications which use the browser's interface, but do not require your average joe to set a server up on their machine. Andrew McNaughton DISCLAIMER: The Entire Physical Universe, Including Andrew McNaughton This Message, May One Day Collapse Back into an ++64 4 389 6891 Infinitesimally Small Space. Should Another Universe andrew@squiz.co.nz Subsequently Re-emerge, the Validity of Statements http://www.squiz.co.nz in This Message Cannot Be Guaranteed. http://www.newsroom.co.nz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mozilla Sat Apr 18 00:39:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA18525 for freebsd-mozilla-outgoing; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 00:39:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp01.primenet.com (smtp01.primenet.com [206.165.6.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA18485 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 07:38:20 GMT (envelope-from tlambert@usr06.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp01.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA15842; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 00:38:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr06.primenet.com(206.165.6.206) via SMTP by smtp01.primenet.com, id smtpd015824; Sat Apr 18 00:38:19 1998 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr06.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA29106; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 00:38:16 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199804180738.AAA29106@usr06.primenet.com> Subject: Re: netscape 4 status? To: andrew@squiz.co.nz (Andrew McNaughton) Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 07:38:15 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Andrew McNaughton" at Apr 18, 98 03:38:27 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mozilla@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Let me add my wishlist to yours: > Some things on my wish list: > > Make acceptance of cookies, javascript, java, plugins, gif animations, even > images customizable by site. As I imagine it when I get one of these from > a new site netscape asks whether I want to accept one of the above, I'd > like radio buttons to decide whether to accept it or not, and a checkbox to > say don't ask about this site next time. Doing it by the page might be > nice for pages with buggy java programs and such like where you still want > to use the features of the rest of the site, so maybe two checkboxes, or a > radio button selection including 'always ask'. 1) There should be a checkbox distinction for the insecure site submit between: a) All submissions b) Submissions of one field c) Submissions of more than one field. In most cases, I want the warning only if it's a multifield form. 2) The exception-by-domain-list is a good idea. Some default entries that should probably be on it (and removable): altavista.dec.com www.yahoo.com etc. > Make the server the Search button takes you to customizable. This is already customisable via .Xdefaults, and via the Netscape OEM customization control program. I don't know the exact details, but it's pretty easy to find the .Xdefaults stuff with "strings netscape". > Make the tool bar strip smaller when shown as pictures or text only. Uh, it does... are you perhaps using a Qt or Lesstif version? > Make both the Search and guide buttons removable. Perhaps just move these > to the Personal toolbar. Also already customizable. Plus settable in "preferences" and via JavaScript. 3) Let me remove the "https:" secure connection indicator bar below the toolbar and above the content window with an "xxx=no" tag in JavaScript. > Put an Add bookmark item into every sub menu of the hierarchical > bookmarks menu. 4) Use the right button on the menu for this. You would "click" the menu up (button style; this makes the menu stick) and then right button for a pop-up "what can I do here", as in the menu that pops up for news servers, groups, articles, http: links, etc.. > Allow for collabra to view multiple newsgroups at the same time. 5) Middle button "another windows", just like the browser. 6) Make the middle button work under Windows. > Add Hierarchical menus of mailboxes. I think you can do this, too. I use this feature at work. This may be another Qt/Lesstif layout problem? > Make it possible to copy text from the navigator window using the Xwindows > middle mouse button convention. 7) Fix the selection of the leftmost character of a line that begins with a link. This is really annoying; you have to try several times to select the full text. 8) Once a selection of a link is started, make it act like a normal text selection until it is deselected (ie: double click to select work, sentence, etc.). 9) This is a *biggie*. Allow the user to drag links into other browser windows. If the target and source are the same program, you don't need the Window manager to make it work. 10) Allow dragging of links into the current window (especially useful if some idiot "frames" the entire Internet in his favorite frame). 11) In the mail client, correctly decode RFC1894 delivery status notification messages, and present the "message" as a localizable translation of the DSN data from the DSN portion of the messsage. You can look at the rest of the message via a "Details..." button and/or "view/document source". 12) In the news reader, make part of the line inactive, so you can select an article without downloading it. Very useful for a group that starts with a run of obvious SPAM, or to ignore a useless thread without having to read at least one message in it. 13) If the first window in the URL that caused the browser to be opened is JavaScript, let the frigging window.close() method close down the window. 14) If the first window in the URL that caused the browser to be opened is JavaScript, let the window properties be adjusted (ie: removal of all the identifying marks). Between 3, 13, and 14, this would let you write applications in JavaScript that look like they were native code. For example, a DHCP configuration "Property sheet" for a FreeBSD system, or an "Install Shield" type installation program that acts on FreeBSD "packages". 15) Glue all user interface components together with either internal URL's (using the NOREF- URL/URI mechanism?) and allow other user interface pieces to be added and bound. This would let me do two things: a) Access things like the *real* "Back" function in an HTML page, instead of invoking a backlink (YES! You could un-thread the "back stack" through a large HTTP site!). b) I could hook a different mail client into the "window/mail" menu, or access other internal URL's from within a script. For example, I could very trivially implement a "kill file" capability into the news reader... 16) Tabbed dialogs in JavaScript? (Is this already there?). 17) Allow alternate views of the "file:" space (big icons, small iconlist, file/properties list [configureable formatting, of course]) to allow the Navigator to better act as a file browser. Using a portalFS on FreeBSD, you could add programatic namespaces, just like Windows 95's "Explorer". "NFS Network Neighborhood" anyone? 8-). 18) Add icon placement memory, as an option. Use a "poop file". 19) Allow the browser to be started on the root window. 18 + 19 + the following == a Netscape desktop manager. > Ability to call local programs, probably using something closely > approximating the CGI calling convention, without a server in between. In > fact on a unix box you'd probably just run a server, but a cross platform > approach to this would make it possible to write locally run, cross > platform applications which use the browser's interface, but do not require > your average joe to set a server up on their machine. I think there is an RFC defined URL/URI for this type of thing; it's "prog:", if I remember correctly. If you had a JAVA, you could do this pretty easily using a JNI to hook into the real "system(3)" library function (for example). If it isn't there, it should definitely be put in (to allow programs on a Netscape desktop manager to be launched). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mozilla" in the body of the message