From owner-freebsd-net Sun Jul 5 03:54:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA23037 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 03:54:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rgate2.ricochet.net (rgate2.ricochet.net [204.179.143.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA23020 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 03:54:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boshea@ricochet.net) Received: from atropos.ricochet.net (mg130-187.ricochet.net [204.179.130.187]) by rgate2.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA05509 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 05:55:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from brian@localhost) by atropos.ricochet.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA11210; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 03:59:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian) From: "Brian O'Shea" Message-Id: <199807051059.DAA11210@atropos.ricochet.net> Subject: Strange problem with named as a caching-only name server To: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 03:59:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello and greetings. I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.5 with BIND version 8.2 and I am having a little difficulty setting up named as a caching-only name server. I can't connect to named on my machine when I specify my IP address in /etc/resolv.conf . I don't seem to have this problem when I specify the loopback address in it's place. I would settle for the loopback address except that I have read that this is a bad idea due to a bug in the BIND code (but I had to try it anyway, just to see what would happen). To illustrate, first I tried to connect to named running on my machine, specifying the server on the command line as 10.0.0.2 (my machine's IP address): [atropos:/home/brian]% nslookup - 10.0.0.2 *** Can't find server name for address 10.0.0.2: Non-existent host/domain *** Default servers are not available Here's my /etc/resolv.conf, just for some background: ; resolv.conf search ricochet.net ; Search list nameserver 10.0.0.2 ; Local caching-only name server nameserver 168.253.48.19 ; Ricochet primary name server nameserver 198.6.1.1 ; Ricochet secondary name server Next I ran nslookup in interactive mode without specifying my machine's IP address as the server. It defaulted to using my ISP's primary name server (from resolv.conf). Then I set the server to my machine manually. For some reason this worked: [atropos:/home/brian]% nslookup - *** Can't find server name for address 10.0.0.2: Non-existent host/domain Default Server: norad-48.mcdn.net Address: 168.253.48.19 > server 10.0.0.2 Default Server: [10.0.0.2] Address: 10.0.0.2 > rs.internic.net Server: [10.0.0.2] Address: 10.0.0.2 Name: rs.internic.net Addresses: 198.41.0.12, 198.41.0.13, 198.41.0.6, 198.41.0.7 198.41.0.8, 198.41.0.9 > Now with the loopback address in /etc/resolv.conf instead of my IP address: ; resolv.conf search ricochet.net ; Search list nameserver 127.0.0.1 ; Local caching-only name server (loopback) ;nameserver 10.0.0.2 ; Local caching-only name server nameserver 168.253.48.19 ; Ricochet primary name server nameserver 198.6.1.1 ; Ricochet secondary name server [atropos:/home/brian]% nslookup - Default Server: localhost Address: 127.0.0.1 > Any ideas on how I can get this running smoothly? Thanks in advance, -brian p.s. Some other information that might be of use: I start named with the following command: /usr/sbin/named -b /var/namedb/named.boot /var/namedb/named.boot: ; named.boot - BIND boot file (caching-only for atropos.Ricochet.NET) directory /var/namedb cache . named.root -- Brian O'Shea boshea@ricochet.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Sun Jul 5 05:20:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA04017 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 05:20:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Amnesiac.123.org (mcl@Amnesiac.mtl.pl [195.116.4.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA04011 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 05:20:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mcl@Amnesiac.123.org) Received: from localhost (mcl@localhost) by Amnesiac.123.org (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id OAA29749; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 14:19:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 14:19:38 +0200 (CEST) From: Michal Listos To: Luigi Rizzo cc: net@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: how about including dummynet in 2.2.7 ? In-Reply-To: <199807030528.HAA13533@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 3 Jul 1998, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > So how about including it in the 2.2.7 distribution ? The patches > I have apply cleanly to 2.2.6, and i can make them work on stable > with relative ease. Great idea. I'm using dummynet on -STABLE system, it works fine but checking code after every cvsup sucks. :) Michal * God used fork() to create Eve. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Sun Jul 5 07:52:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA12557 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 07:52:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mx.iki.rssi.ru (mx.iki.rssi.ru [193.232.212.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12483 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 07:52:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from richi@tdis.gctc.rssi.ru) Received: from tdis.gctc.rssi.ru (tdis.gctc.rssi.ru [193.232.26.70]) by mx.iki.rssi.ru (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA16261 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 18:50:43 +0400 (MSD) Received: from tdis by tdis.gctc.rssi.ru (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA07781; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 18:38:19 -0300 Message-Id: <359FF24B.89A3F6A1@tdis.gctc.rssi.ru> Date: Sun, 05 Jul 1998 18:38:19 -0300 From: "Andrew A.Karjagin" Organization: Gagarin Cosmonaut Training Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "Net@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: PCI Ethernet Card Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, net Guru ! I have a problem with installation of PCI NE2000-Compatible Ethernet PnP Card on FreeBSD 2.2.5. At the Kernel config file I change the card-config string as shown: ed0 at pci? port 0x280 net irq 9 0xd8000 vector edintr But the system don't recognize the card. How can I install it successfully? Thank you! ---------------------------------------------------- Best regards Andrew A.Karjagin Gagarin Cosmonaut Training Center, Star Town, Russia ICQ # = 4744622 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Sun Jul 5 14:27:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11164 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 14:27:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from abused.com (root@cx569751-a.elcjn1.sdca.home.com [24.4.72.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11153 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 14:27:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gvb@tns.net) Received: from cx569751-a (windows [192.168.0.2]) by abused.com (8.9.0/None of your damn business!) with SMTP id OAA15051 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 14:36:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199807052136.OAA15051@abused.com> X-Sender: gvb@192.168.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Sun, 05 Jul 1998 14:29:38 -0700 To: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG From: GVB Subject: ignore last message... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Please ignore the last message suexec..I figured it out.. or at least I think I did... I looks like the suexec code doesnt allow uid 0 to run anything, even if you specify it in the config file...is this the case?? GVB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Sun Jul 5 18:03:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA00401 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 18:03:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (spinner.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA00332 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 18:02:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spinner.netplex.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8/Spinner) with ESMTP id JAA26195; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 09:01:12 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@spinner.netplex.com.au) Message-Id: <199807060101.JAA26195@spinner.netplex.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: eivind@yes.no (Eivind Eklund), jkh@time.cdrom.com, net@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: how about including dummynet in 2.2.7 ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 03 Jul 1998 10:00:47 +0200." <199807030800.KAA13807@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 09:01:12 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > The only problem I can see with Luigi's changes is I believe that they > > will screw the ipfw interface again (right, Luigi?) > > depends on what you mean for 'screw up' ... > > Because i needed some space in the structure passed to the ipfw > socket, and this size was limited to one mbuf, I reduced the number > of ports for each rule to 8, and limited the interface name length > to 10 characters. > > The former will go back to 10 if this code has to go in 2.2.7, and > for the latter, does anyone have an interface name longer than 4-5 > chars anyways ? I backported -current's mods to allow setsockopt to take data up to a cluster (~2K) instead of 108 bytes. I'm using a variant of the ipfw packet forwarding stuff (in this case both for transparent proxying and for source address based routing). The IPFIREWALL_FORWARD adds a sockaddr_in to the ipfw structs and takes it way over the limit. I think the setsockopt stuff should be backported. It doesn't change any interfaces itself but makes it a hell of a lot easier to add other things, perhaps at the user's site, or in the base 2.2.x source. Cheers, -Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Sun Jul 5 22:17:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA04092 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 22:17:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailhost.ml-associates.co.uk (ns.ml-associates.co.uk [193.116.163.181]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA04086 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 22:17:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from M@mlnet.net) Received: (from postie@localhost) by mailhost.ml-associates.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA26839; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 05:16:38 GMT Received: from orion.demon.co.uk(158.152.10.76) by ns.ml-associates.co.uk via smap (V1.3.ML.3) id sma026835; Mon Jul 6 05:16:14 1998 Received: from gate.home.ml-associates.co.uk by mlpunt.mail-relay.home.ml-associates.co.uk with mlpunt version 3.1 id RAA21251; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 17:55:00 GMT X-Comment: mlpunt - queue demon-ppp Received: by gate.home.ml-associates.co.uk (8.6.12/25-eef) id RAA21244; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 17:54:55 GMT X-MLComment1: ML Associates, PO Box 16076, Glasgow, Scotland, G11 7TL X-MLComment2: mailhost - The Postoffice X-MLComment3: E-mail: net-support@home.ml-associates.co.uk Message-Id: <199807051754.RAA21244@gate.home.ml-associates.co.uk> Received: from oban(192.168.191.2) by gate.home.ml-associates.co.uk via smap (V1.3) id sma021239; Sun Jul 5 17:54:36 1998 X-Sender: msmith@mailhost.home.ml-associates.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 05 Jul 1998 18:57:43 +0000 To: "Brian O'Shea" , freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG From: Matthew Smithshaw Subject: Re: Strange problem with named as a caching-only name server Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The IP 10.0.0.2 is (rfc 1918) private. I Assume you are _not_ using the Internet root name servers in your named.root file. If you are (and using NAT or such ilk), you will need to also be authorative for the domain 0.0.10.IN-ADDR.ARPA. Had this problem myself where reverse lookup was not yet in place! At 03:59 05/07/1998 -0700, Brian O'Shea wrote: >Hello and greetings. > >I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.5 with BIND version 8.2 and I am having a little >difficulty setting up named as a caching-only name server. I can't connect >to named on my machine when I specify my IP address in /etc/resolv.conf . >I don't seem to have this problem when I specify the loopback address in >it's place. I would settle for the loopback address except that I have >read that this is a bad idea due to a bug in the BIND code (but I had to >try it anyway, just to see what would happen). > >To illustrate, first I tried to connect to named running on my machine, >specifying the server on the command line as 10.0.0.2 (my machine's IP >address): > > >[atropos:/home/brian]% nslookup - 10.0.0.2 >*** Can't find server name for address 10.0.0.2: Non-existent host/domain >*** Default servers are not available > > >Here's my /etc/resolv.conf, just for some background: > >; resolv.conf >search ricochet.net ; Search list >nameserver 10.0.0.2 ; Local caching-only name server >nameserver 168.253.48.19 ; Ricochet primary name server >nameserver 198.6.1.1 ; Ricochet secondary name server > > >Next I ran nslookup in interactive mode without specifying my machine's >IP address as the server. It defaulted to using my ISP's primary name >server (from resolv.conf). Then I set the server to my machine manually. >For some reason this worked: > > >[atropos:/home/brian]% nslookup - >*** Can't find server name for address 10.0.0.2: Non-existent host/domain >Default Server: norad-48.mcdn.net >Address: 168.253.48.19 > >> server 10.0.0.2 >Default Server: [10.0.0.2] >Address: 10.0.0.2 > >> rs.internic.net >Server: [10.0.0.2] >Address: 10.0.0.2 > >Name: rs.internic.net >Addresses: 198.41.0.12, 198.41.0.13, 198.41.0.6, 198.41.0.7 > 198.41.0.8, 198.41.0.9 > >> > > >Now with the loopback address in /etc/resolv.conf instead of my IP address: > >; resolv.conf >search ricochet.net ; Search list >nameserver 127.0.0.1 ; Local caching-only name server (loopback) >;nameserver 10.0.0.2 ; Local caching-only name server >nameserver 168.253.48.19 ; Ricochet primary name server >nameserver 198.6.1.1 ; Ricochet secondary name server > > >[atropos:/home/brian]% nslookup - >Default Server: localhost >Address: 127.0.0.1 > >> > >Any ideas on how I can get this running smoothly? > >Thanks in advance, >-brian > > >p.s. Some other information that might be of use: > >I start named with the following command: >/usr/sbin/named -b /var/namedb/named.boot > >/var/namedb/named.boot: >; named.boot - BIND boot file (caching-only for atropos.Ricochet.NET) >directory /var/namedb >cache . named.root > -- Matthew Smithshaw | ML Associates M@MLNET.NET | P O Box 16076 tel:+44-141-951-2229 | Glasgow Scotland fax:+44-141-951-8877 | G11 7TL To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Sun Jul 5 23:19:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA10396 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 23:19:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (rgate1.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA10380 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 23:19:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boshea@ricochet.net) Received: from atropos.ricochet.net (mg134-023.ricochet.net [204.179.134.23]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA28726 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 01:19:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from brian@localhost) by atropos.ricochet.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA12386 for freebsd-net@freebsd.org; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 23:24:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian) From: "Brian O'Shea" Message-Id: <199807060624.XAA12386@atropos.ricochet.net> Subject: Re: Strange problem with named as a caching-only name server To: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 23:24:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org That's the answer to my problem! Thanks. FYI: I am using the real Internet root name servers in my named.root file, and I am using NAT to deal with only having one (dynamic) IP address. -brian Forwarded message from Matthew Smithshaw > > The IP 10.0.0.2 is (rfc 1918) private. I Assume you are _not_ > using the Internet root name servers in your named.root file. > > If you are (and using NAT or such ilk), you will need to also > be authorative for the domain 0.0.10.IN-ADDR.ARPA. > > Had this problem myself where reverse lookup was not yet in > place! > > At 03:59 05/07/1998 -0700, Brian O'Shea wrote: > >Hello and greetings. > > > >I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.5 with BIND version 8.2 and I am having a little > >difficulty setting up named as a caching-only name server. I can't connect > >to named on my machine when I specify my IP address in /etc/resolv.conf . > >I don't seem to have this problem when I specify the loopback address in > >it's place. I would settle for the loopback address except that I have > >read that this is a bad idea due to a bug in the BIND code (but I had to > >try it anyway, just to see what would happen). > > (a lot of stuff cut out here to keep my response short[er]...) > > > >Any ideas on how I can get this running smoothly? > > > >Thanks in advance, > >-brian > > > > > >p.s. Some other information that might be of use: > > > >I start named with the following command: > >/usr/sbin/named -b /var/namedb/named.boot > > > >/var/namedb/named.boot: > >; named.boot - BIND boot file (caching-only for atropos.Ricochet.NET) > >directory /var/namedb > >cache . named.root > > > > -- > Matthew Smithshaw | ML Associates > M@MLNET.NET | P O Box 16076 > tel:+44-141-951-2229 | Glasgow Scotland > fax:+44-141-951-8877 | G11 7TL > -- Brian O'Shea boshea@ricochet.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Mon Jul 6 01:50:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA04115 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 01:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from muswell.demon.co.uk (muswell.demon.co.uk [158.152.10.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA04057; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 01:49:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ruth@muswell.demon.co.uk) Received: (from ruth@localhost) by muswell.demon.co.uk (8.8.7/8.6.12) id JAA04773; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 09:42:34 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 09:42:34 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199807060842.JAA04773@muswell.demon.co.uk> From: ruth moulton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Julian Elischer Cc: ruth moulton , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: connecting NT and FBSD via tcp/ip over ethernet In-Reply-To: References: <199807031038.LAA01988@muswell.demon.co.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Cc: ruth@muswell.demon.co.uk Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Julian, > it rally sounds as if your card is DEAF.. > it can get out but can't hear anything.. yep!! - but it's hearing is perfect in hardware tests. The driver reports 'device timeout', which according to the manual page is an interupt conflict, but there is none that I can see. I think I'm going to try one of the cards the manual page mentions, instead of the Kingston 'compatable' they are cheaper than the time I'm spending on this problem!! thanks for replying ruth > > BTW I'd expect to see a Netif entry for it in the 192.168 entry ofthe > netstat, but it seems to selct the right interface without that. > > Even with the wrong interrupt, you should get some input, just very > slow... > > On Fri, 3 Jul 1998, ruth moulton wrote: > > > Julian, > > > > thanks > > > > > > > are the netmasks ok? > > > > netmasks are 255.255.255.0 - the network number I'm using is > > 192.168.0 > > > > > what does > > > route get [NT ip address] -- ================================================ Ruth Moulton ruth@muswell.demon.co.uk Consultant 65 Tetherdown, London N.10 1NH, UK Tel:+44 181 883 5823 -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Mon Jul 6 02:25:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA08027 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 02:25:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from itesec.hsc.fr (root@itesec.hsc.fr [192.70.106.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA08018 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 02:24:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pb@hsc.fr) Received: from mars.hsc.fr (mars.hsc.fr [192.70.106.44]) by itesec.hsc.fr (8.8.8/8.8.5/itesec-1.12-nospam) with ESMTP id LAA06981; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:24:39 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from pb@localhost) by mars.hsc.fr (8.8.8/8.8.8/pb-19980526) id LAA01513; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:24:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pb) Message-ID: <19980706112438.A1486@mars.hsc.fr> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:24:38 +0200 From: Pierre Beyssac To: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPV6 (3rd version) References: <19980704012416.A9637@keltia.freenix.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.92.8i In-Reply-To: <19980704012416.A9637@keltia.freenix.fr>; from Ollivier Robert on Sat, Jul 04, 1998 at 01:24:16AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jul 04, 1998 at 01:24:16AM +0200, Ollivier Robert wrote: > According to Julian Elischer: > > Ok, so here's a 3rd FreeBSD native version of IPV6 > > Sources are not available (I know, we have a joint project with them using > that stack on NT)... How do they provide their binaries for FreeBSD, then ? By means of an LKM + a set kernel patches to insert it in the networks structures ? Just curious... -- Pierre.Beyssac@hsc.fr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Mon Jul 6 09:46:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07298 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 09:46:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (billf@hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA07288 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 09:46:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA072653605; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:46:45 -0400 Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:46:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola Cc: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange problem with named as a caching-only name server In-Reply-To: <199807051059.DAA11210@atropos.ricochet.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You're really on the wrong track here. bind8 uses a [really] different boot file. in fact it's called named.conf so you really need to get updated. if you installed from the ports collection, then all the docs are in /usr/ports/net/bind8/work/doc On Sun, 5 Jul 1998, Brian O'Shea wrote: > I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.5 with BIND version 8.2 and I am having a little > difficulty setting up named as a caching-only name server. I can't connect > I start named with the following command: > /usr/sbin/named -b /var/namedb/named.boot > > /var/namedb/named.boot: > ; named.boot - BIND boot file (caching-only for atropos.Ricochet.NET) > directory /var/namedb > cache . named.root bill fumerola (root/billf)@chc-chimes.com computer horizons corp - www.computerhorizons.com ph:(248)641-1500 x107 / bill.fumerola@chc.fabrik.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Mon Jul 6 14:32:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23011 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:32:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from frmug.org (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22857 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:32:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.org (8.9.0/frmug-2.3/nospam) with UUCP id XAA22000 for freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 23:32:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.9.0.Beta4/keltia-2.14/nospam) id UAA29628 for freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 20:08:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roberto) Message-ID: <19980706200811.A29224@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 20:08:11 +0200 From: Ollivier Robert To: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPV6 (3rd version) Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19980704012416.A9637@keltia.freenix.fr> <19980706112438.A1486@mars.hsc.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.92.14i In-Reply-To: <19980706112438.A1486@mars.hsc.fr>; from Pierre Beyssac on Mon, Jul 06, 1998 at 11:24:38AM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT ctm#4419 AMD-K6 MMX @ 225 MHz Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org According to Pierre Beyssac: > How do they provide their binaries for FreeBSD, then ? By means of > an LKM + a set kernel patches to insert it in the networks structures ? > Just curious... Haven't seen the FreeBSD version, only the NT one. If I remember well, they don't even use it to connect to the MBone, they use Francis' version instead. I'll ask them, I'll probably work more and more on this project in the near future. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #11: Sat Jun 27 00:41:06 CEST 1998 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Mon Jul 6 19:51:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA02644 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 19:51:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sierrahill.com (sierrahill.com [207.8.11.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA02635 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 19:51:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rjoe@sierrahill.com) Received: (from rjoe@localhost) by sierrahill.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA01668 for freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:45:38 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjoe) From: Joe Schwartz Message-Id: <199807070245.VAA01668@sierrahill.com> Subject: 100Mb ISA ethernet cards ??? To: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:45:38 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Folks, Are there any 100 Mb ethernet ISA cards supported by FreeBSD? I've only run across 100 Mb PCI cards. Thanks, Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Mon Jul 6 23:50:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA08823 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 23:50:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from IPv6.ITB.ac.id (ipv6.ITB.ac.id [167.205.22.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA08815 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 23:50:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jky@itb.ac.id) Received: from localhost (jky@localhost) by IPv6.ITB.ac.id (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id NAA08970 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 13:49:29 +0700 (JAVT) X-Authentication-Warning: IPv6.ITB.ac.id: jky owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 13:49:29 +0700 (JAVT) From: Joko Y To: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange problem with named as a caching-only name server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You can run src/bin/named/named-bootconf.pl if you installed from gzipped version. It will automatically convert your current named.boot to the new named.conf... regards, - joko - On Mon, 6 Jul 1998, Bill Fumerola wrote: > > You're really on the wrong track here. bind8 uses a [really] different > boot file. in fact it's called named.conf so you really need to get > updated. if you installed from the ports collection, then all the docs are > in /usr/ports/net/bind8/work/doc > > On Sun, 5 Jul 1998, Brian O'Shea wrote: > > > I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.5 with BIND version 8.2 and I am having a little > > difficulty setting up named as a caching-only name server. I can't connect > > > I start named with the following command: > > /usr/sbin/named -b /var/namedb/named.boot > > > > /var/namedb/named.boot: > > ; named.boot - BIND boot file (caching-only for atropos.Ricochet.NET) > > directory /var/namedb > > cache . named.root > > bill fumerola (root/billf)@chc-chimes.com > computer horizons corp - www.computerhorizons.com > ph:(248)641-1500 x107 / bill.fumerola@chc.fabrik.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Mon Jul 6 23:55:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA09586 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 23:55:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rgate2.ricochet.net (rgate2.ricochet.net [204.179.143.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA09581 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 23:55:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boshea@ricochet.net) Received: from atropos.ricochet.net (mg134-023.ricochet.net [204.179.134.23]) by rgate2.ricochet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA01850 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 01:56:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from brian@localhost) by atropos.ricochet.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA13854 for freebsd-net@freebsd.org; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 00:00:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian) From: "Brian O'Shea" Message-Id: <199807070700.AAA13854@atropos.ricochet.net> Subject: Re: Strange problem with named as a caching-only name server To: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 00:00:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org My mistake. I am actually using BIND 4.9.6, not 8.2. Apologies to anyone whom I may have inadvertently led on a wild goose chase with the wrong version number. -brian p.s. My problem has been resolved. Thanks for all the responses! Forwarded message from Bill Fumerola > > You're really on the wrong track here. bind8 uses a [really] different > boot file. in fact it's called named.conf so you really need to get > updated. if you installed from the ports collection, then all the docs are > in /usr/ports/net/bind8/work/doc > > On Sun, 5 Jul 1998, Brian O'Shea wrote: > > > I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.5 with BIND version 8.2 and I am having a little > > difficulty setting up named as a caching-only name server. I can't connect > > > I start named with the following command: > > /usr/sbin/named -b /var/namedb/named.boot > > > > /var/namedb/named.boot: > > ; named.boot - BIND boot file (caching-only for atropos.Ricochet.NET) > > directory /var/namedb > > cache . named.root > > bill fumerola (root/billf)@chc-chimes.com > computer horizons corp - www.computerhorizons.com > ph:(248)641-1500 x107 / bill.fumerola@chc.fabrik.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message > -- Brian O'Shea boshea@ricochet.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Tue Jul 7 08:19:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12173 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 08:19:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from arthur.axion.bt.co.uk (arthur.axion.bt.co.uk [132.146.5.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA12143 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 08:18:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from graeme.brown@bt-sys.bt.co.uk) Received: from rambo (actually rambo.futures.bt.co.uk) by arthur.axion.bt.co.uk (PP) with SMTP; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:05:23 +0100 Received: from maczebedee (actually macsmtp) by rambo with SMTP (PP); Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:04:39 +0100 Message-ID: Date: 7 Jul 1998 16:04:50 +0100 From: Graeme Brown Subject: How to get natd running during boot process To: Edwin Culp Cc: "FreeBSD-Net (FreeBSD.Org) List" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP for Quarterdeck Mail; Version 4.0.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ed I have been trying out your recipe to get natd working on a 2.2.5 box but natd doesn't seem to start up properly. Can you clarify the following please Ed Culp wrote : >think that you need natd and ipfw on the gateway machine. >first in your kernel config file add something like: >options IPFIREWALL #firewall >options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE #print information about >options IPDIVERT #divert sockets >options "IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100" #limit verbosity >options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT #allow everything by >default >recompile >edit rc.conf something like this: >firewall_enable="YES" # Set to YES to enable firewall >functionality >firewall_type="open" # Firewall type (see /etc/rc.firewall) >firewall_quiet="NO" # Set to YES to suppress rule display >natd_enable="YES" # Enable natd (if firewall_enable == YES). >natd_interface="ep0" # Public interface to use with natd. >natd_flags="-v -s -m -u " # Additional flags for natd. >the up to date rc.firewall file seems to work fine >I did move the natd inicialzation in rc.network to >the begining of ipfw it may not have been necessary >but since it works, I haven't fixed it. The problem >was that natd didn't start. Yes I have this trouble too. I wanted to use the shell macros you suggest in /etc/rc.conf thus natd $natd_flags -n $natd_interface but I seem to get a hung machine. > (Don't forget to comment >out the orginal natd inicialization) Yes but where on earth is the original initialisation ?? I could not find anything in /etc/rc.network or /etc/rc.firewall which started up natd. >You might want >to do this if natd doesn't start after reboot. >ps -ax|grep natd. You can start it manually if >necessary and everything should work. Well as a last resort, but it should be possible to configure this automatically during the initialisation of networking. ># cut and paste from rc.network > # Initialize IP filtering using ipfw > echo -n "natd repositioned in rc.network" >natd -v -s -m -u -n ep0 > # test and fix. Next line is part of original file. > /sbin/ipfw -q flush > /dev/null 2>&1 >By this time you should be recompiled and ready for a reboot:-) >Don't worry, if I forgot something your machine won't work :-) You can say that again ! >provecho >ed Is the recipe for natd set-up advocated by natd man page out of date. I found it hard to reconcile with what rc.firewall script actually does. Does anyone on the list have their own alternative to get natd running automatically at machine boot time. I presume that natd/ipfw must be running happily before network services are started up eg NFS, RPC etc. TIA Graeme N Brown BT Laboratories, UK email: graeme.brown@bt-sys.bt.co.uk _______________________________________________________________________________ To: Joe Schwartz Cc: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Edwin Culp on Tue, Jun 23, 1998 1:37 am Subject: [Fwd: Re: routing issue] RFC Header:Received: by maczebedee with ADMIN;23 Jun 1998 01:37:22 +0100 Received: from babelfish.axion.bt.co.uk by rambo with SMTP (PP); Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:39:17 +0100 Received: from hub.freebsd.org by babelfish.axion.bt.co.uk (PP) with SMTP; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:36:04 +0100 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA01962; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 12:19:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (bulk_mailer v1.6); Mon, 22 Jun 1998 12:19:08 -0700 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA01879 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 12:19:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.webwizard.net.mx (mexcom.net.mx [207.249.162.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01835; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 12:18:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@webwizard.org.mx) Received: from sunix (eculp@sunix.mexcom.net [206.103.64.3]) by ns.webwizard.net.mx (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA03407; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:17:57 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <358EA148.6513CABD@webwizard.org.mx> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 13:24:08 -0500 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.14 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Schwartz CC: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: [Fwd: Re: routing issue] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------14049ECB962959A7A7BB842" Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------14049ECB962959A7A7BB842 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I screwed up on my email configuration. Message never got out. sorry, Hope it's still useful. ed --------------14049ECB962959A7A7BB842 Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 00:36:26 +0000 Message-ID: <358E65D7.7A926B2B@mexcom.net> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:10:31 -0500 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.14 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Schwartz CC: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: routing issue References: <199806221326.IAA05713@sierrahill.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit think that you need natd and ipfw on the gateway machine. first in your kernel config file add something like: options IPFIREWALL #firewall options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE #print information about options IPDIVERT #divert sockets options "IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100" #limit verbosity options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT #allow everything by default recompile edit rc.conf something like this: firewall_enable="YES" # Set to YES to enable firewall functionality firewall_type="open" # Firewall type (see /etc/rc.firewall) firewall_quiet="NO" # Set to YES to suppress rule display natd_enable="YES" # Enable natd (if firewall_enable == YES). natd_interface="ep0" # Public interface to use with natd. natd_flags="-v -s -m -u " # Additional flags for natd. the up to date rc.firewall file seems to work fine I did move the natd inicialzation in rc.network to the begining of ipfw it may not have been necessary but since it works, I haven't fixed it. The problem was that natd didn't start. (Don't forget to comment out the orginal natd inicialization) You might want to do this if natd doesn't start after reboot. ps -ax|grep natd. You can start it manually if necessary and everything should work. # cut and paste from rc.network # Initialize IP filtering using ipfw echo -n "natd repositioned in rc.network" natd -v -s -m -u -n ep0 # test and fix. Next line is part of original file. /sbin/ipfw -q flush > /dev/null 2>&1 By this time you should be recompiled and ready for a reboot:-) Don't worry, if I forgot something your machine won't work :-) provecho ed Joe Schwartz wrote: > > Folks, > > I want to use a FreeBSD machine as an Internet host with 2 > ethernet cards. One card on an Internet subnet and the other > card to service the internal private network. > > I'm having trouble getting it to route between the 2 interfaces. > > I have 3 machines setup for a test. > > machine a: > ---------- > ifconfig -a > ep0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet 207.8.11.165 netmask 0xfffffff8 broadcast 207.8.11.167 > ether 00:a0:24:11:c7:19 > > machine b: > ---------- > ifconfig -a > ep0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet 207.8.11.166 netmask 0xfffffff8 broadcast 207.8.11.167 > ether 00:10:4b:29:aa:a7 > ep1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 > ether 00:10:4b:20:94:3a > > machine c: > ---------- > ifconfig -a > ep0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet 192.168.1.2 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 > ether 00:10:4b:29:ab:da > > machine a's default route is set to 207.8.11.166 > machine c's default route is set to 192.168.1.1 > > machine b has a route between the 2 interfaces by issuing: (but doesn't work) > > route add -net 192.168.1.0 207.8.11.166 0 > > machine b can ping machine a and c > > machine a can ping: > 207.8.11.166 and 192.168.1.1 but not 192.168.1.2 > > machine c can ping: > 192.168.1.1 and 207.8.11.166 but not 207.8.11.165 > > ============================================================== > > In /etc/rc.conf I've got: > > gateway_enable="YES" > router_enable="YES" > > Machine b ISN'T routing between the 2 interfaces. Any suggestions? > ----- > I have several machines set up like this for clients working perfectly > under FreeBSD 2.1.x. > > Does FreeBSD 2.2.x expect a subtle difference somehow? Is my 'route add' > command incorrect? > > HELP!! > THANKS, > > Joe > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message --------------14049ECB962959A7A7BB842-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Tue Jul 7 12:58:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24747 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 12:58:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dns.webwizard.net.mx (mexcom.net.mx [207.249.162.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA24733 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 12:58:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@webwizard.org.mx) Received: from sunix (eculp@sunix.mexcom.net [206.103.64.3]) by dns.webwizard.net.mx (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA11793; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 14:57:45 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <35A27105.1449FD7D@webwizard.org.mx> Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 14:03:33 -0500 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.14 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Graeme Brown CC: "FreeBSD-Net (FreeBSD.Org) List" Subject: Re: How to get natd running during boot process References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Graeme Brown wrote: > > Ed > > I have been trying out your recipe to get natd working on a 2.2.5 box > but natd doesn't seem to start up properly. > > Can you clarify the following please First of all, I'm running current, so I have an excuse :-) Should be the same, but I don't have a 2.2.5 left to compare. > > Ed Culp wrote : > > >think that you need natd and ipfw on the gateway machine. > > >first in your kernel config file add something like: > > >options IPFIREWALL #firewall > >options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE #print information about > >options IPDIVERT #divert sockets > >options "IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100" #limit verbosity > >options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT #allow everything by > >default > > >recompile > > >edit rc.conf something like this: > > >firewall_enable="YES" # Set to YES to enable firewall > >functionality > >firewall_type="open" # Firewall type (see /etc/rc.firewall) > >firewall_quiet="NO" # Set to YES to suppress rule display > >natd_enable="YES" # Enable natd (if firewall_enable == > YES). > >natd_interface="ep0" # Public interface to use with natd. > >natd_flags="-v -s -m -u " # Additional flags for natd. > > >the up to date rc.firewall file seems to work fine > >I did move the natd inicialzation in rc.network to > >the begining of ipfw it may not have been necessary > >but since it works, I haven't fixed it. The problem > >was that natd didn't start. > > Yes I have this trouble too. I wanted to use the shell macros > you suggest in /etc/rc.conf thus > > natd $natd_flags -n $natd_interface I wasn't so efficient. I just put the command on about line 60 in the rc.network file just after the line that reads # Inicialize IP Filtering using ipfw echo -n " Arrancando NATD " natd -v -s -m -u -n ed0 > > but I seem to get a hung machine. > > > (Don't forget to comment > >out the orginal natd inicialization) > > Yes but where on earth is the original initialisation ?? I could not > find anything in /etc/rc.network or /etc/rc.firewall which started up natd. > in my rc.network it's on about line 270 and starts with # Network Address Translation Daemon > >You might want > >to do this if natd doesn't start after reboot. > >ps -ax|grep natd. You can start it manually if > >necessary and everything should work. > > Well as a last resort, but it should be possible to configure this > automatically during the initialisation of networking. > > ># cut and paste from rc.network > > > # Initialize IP filtering using ipfw > > echo -n "natd repositioned in rc.network" > >natd -v -s -m -u -n ep0 > > # test and fix. Next line is part of original file. > > /sbin/ipfw -q flush > /dev/null 2>&1 > > >By this time you should be recompiled and ready for a reboot:-) > > >Don't worry, if I forgot something your machine won't work :-) > > You can say that again ! > > >provecho > > >ed > > Is the recipe for natd set-up advocated by natd man page out of date. > I found it hard to reconcile with what rc.firewall script actually > does. > > Does anyone on the list have their own alternative to get natd running > automatically at machine boot time. I presume that natd/ipfw must be > running > happily before network services are started up eg NFS, RPC etc. > > TIA > > Graeme N Brown > BT Laboratories, UK > email: graeme.brown@bt-sys.bt.co.uk > Hope this helps ed ................ C U T .......................... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Tue Jul 7 18:36:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA02912 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 18:36:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from obie.softweyr.com ([204.68.178.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA02905 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 18:36:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from obie.softweyr.com (zaphod.softweyr.com [204.68.178.35]) by obie.softweyr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA00656; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 19:36:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 19:36:08 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199807080136.TAA00656@obie.softweyr.com> Subject: Re: 100Mb ISA ethernet cards ??? From: Wes Peters To: rjoe@sierrahill.com, freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: Wes Peters In-Reply-To: <199807070245.VAA01668@sierrahill.com> References: <199807070245.VAA01668@sierrahill.com> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Mailer: BeatWare Mail-It 1.6 (TrialWare) X-BeOS-Platform: Intel or clone Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id SAA02908 Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org My hidden microphone recorded Joe Schwartz (rjoe@sierrahill.com) saying: % Are there any 100 Mb ethernet ISA cards supported by FreeBSD? I've % only run across 100 Mb PCI cards. Are there any 100 Mb ethernet ISA cards? If so, why? ISA probably can't keep up with a 10 MByte/sec data stream anyhow. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.softweyr.com/~softweyr wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Wed Jul 8 08:07:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA11772 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 08:07:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lestat.nas.nasa.gov (lestat.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.50.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA11767 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 08:06:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thorpej@lestat.nas.nasa.gov) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lestat.nas.nasa.gov (8.8.8/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA25054; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 07:52:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199807081452.HAA25054@lestat.nas.nasa.gov> X-Authentication-Warning: lestat.nas.nasa.gov: localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Wes Peters Cc: rjoe@sierrahill.com, freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 100Mb ISA ethernet cards ??? Reply-To: Jason Thorpe From: Jason Thorpe Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 07:52:18 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 7 Jul 1998 19:36:08 -0600 (MDT) Wes Peters wrote: > Are there any 100 Mb ethernet ISA cards? If so, why? ISA probably can't > keep up with a 10 MByte/sec data stream anyhow. Yes, 3Com makes one, the 3c515. It's a sick hacked-up version of the 905. One wonders "why bother"... Jason R. Thorpe thorpej@nas.nasa.gov NASA Ames Research Center Home: +1 408 866 1912 NAS: M/S 258-5 Work: +1 650 604 0935 Moffett Field, CA 94035 Pager: +1 650 940 5942 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Thu Jul 9 02:36:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA21619 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 02:36:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from muswell.demon.co.uk (muswell.demon.co.uk [158.152.10.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA21600; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 02:36:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ruth@muswell.demon.co.uk) Received: (from ruth@localhost) by muswell.demon.co.uk (8.8.7/8.6.12) id KAA00360; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:23:02 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:23:02 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199807090923.KAA00360@muswell.demon.co.uk> From: ruth moulton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit to: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: connecting NT and FBSD via tcp/ip over ethernet using Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Kingston boards In-Reply-To: <199807031703.KAA02588@ix.netcom.com> References: <199807030831.JAA01803@muswell.demon.co.uk> <199807031703.KAA02588@ix.netcom.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Cc: ruth Thanks to everyone who sent me advise on this problem. I sat down more calmly yesterday with a couple of hours in hand and finally solved the problem, I now have an ethernet (utp via hub) with Solaris, Freebsd 2.1 and NT 4.0 all talking to each other using tcp/ip protocols. - HOORAY - freebsd using a Kinsgton ne2000 compatable board. and what was the problem in the end - hardware addressing/irq conflict I believe: this is what finally happened: At last I noticed that the console was displaying the message ed0: device timeout I checked the manual page for ed0 and this suggested IRQ conflicts. I looked at the boot messages - freebsd saw the kingston ethernet board at IRQ5 and nothing else at this IRQ. I tried to change the card's IRQ to 10, using it's config program, but Freebsd kept seeing it at 5. (If I set it to 5 explicitly freebsd didn't see the card at all) And then, whilst booting DOS to run the config program, I noticed that the sound card, a plug and play card, was coming up at IRq5. After some messing about I discovered I could reserve IRQ5 for ISA use instead of PnP - using the boot time bios config. So I did this, the sound card went to 11 - but still no joy!!!!!! I tried a 3com card, freebsd didn't even see it (3C509). I tried other addresses in the ed0 range, but only 280x was seen by freebsd. Then I thought to try the card at it's other address range, again only 300x was actually seen by freebsd, as ed1. I'd left the irq at 10 and still no joy - I was getting timeout messages. So I tried one last time to configure the kingston at IRQ 5, address 300x (duplex and pnp disabled), and glory of glories, the freebsd came up on the net!!!!!!!! I think this is called reading the manual, looking at and believing the evidence, not jumping to conclusions, and staying calm!!! anyway, I'm totally relieved to have sorted the problem at last, many thanks to those who tried to help ruth -- ================================================ Ruth Moulton ruth@muswell.demon.co.uk Consultant 65 Tetherdown, London N.10 1NH, UK Tel:+44 181 883 5823 -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Thu Jul 9 08:15:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26918 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 08:15:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from the.oneinsane.net (insane@gw.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA26911 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 08:15:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from insane@the.oneinsane.net) Received: (from insane@localhost) by the.oneinsane.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) id IAA08133; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 08:15:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19980709081538.A8094@oneinsane.net> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 08:15:39 -0700 From: "Ron 'The Insane One' Rosson" To: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: sendto: no buffer space Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD the.oneinsane.net 2.2.6-STABLE X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-Disclaimer: I am a firm believer in RTFM X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yesterday I experienced this error on my server. I was able to ping other local machines on my network but not to my uplink. This server gateways for 6 other machines and virtula hosts 2 websites plus its own. When this error occurred I did a netstat -m and it said I had 120 buffers in use. (Damn I wish I had Saved that info before I rebooted. Hind SITE is 20/20 ;-)). For more specifics on the machine goto http:/www.oneinsane.net/about.html. Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated. TIA Ron -- -------------------------------------------------------- Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was null and void -------------------------------------------------------- It's so nice to be insane, nobody asks you to explain. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Thu Jul 9 11:17:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25801 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:17:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25796 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:17:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from archie@whistle.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id LAA14980; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:17:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bubba.whistle.com(207.76.205.7) by whistle.com via smap (V1.3) id sma014976; Thu Jul 9 11:17:12 1998 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id LAA09523; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:17:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199807091817.LAA09523@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: sendto: no buffer space In-Reply-To: <19980709081538.A8094@oneinsane.net> from Ron 'The Insane One' Rosson at "Jul 9, 98 08:15:39 am" To: insane@oneinsane.net (Ron 'The Insane One' Rosson) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ron 'The Insane One' Rosson writes: > Yesterday I experienced this error on my server. I was able to > ping other local machines on my network but not to my uplink. This > server gateways for 6 other machines and virtula hosts 2 websites > plus its own. When this error occurred I did a netstat -m and it said > I had 120 buffers in use. (Damn I wish I had Saved that info before > I rebooted. Hind SITE is 20/20 ;-)). For more specifics on the machine > goto http:/www.oneinsane.net/about.html. Any help on this matter would > be greatly appreciated. Sounds like a bug in whatever interface connects to your uplink. E.g., it missed an interrupt, and is waiting indefinitely for it to send the next packet.. meanwhile the queue quickly fills up. -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Thu Jul 9 13:42:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA21984 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:42:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from news.aminet.or.jp (news.aminet.or.jp [202.214.162.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA21979 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:42:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from takashi@aminet.or.jp) Received: from necpc (V200.online.gr.jp [210.170.95.36]) by news.aminet.or.jp (8.8.7/3.6W03/20/98) with SMTP id FAA06403 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 05:34:21 +0900 (JST) From: "Kiyoshima Takashi" To: Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 05:43:09 +0900 Message-ID: <01bdab7a$2e826820$245faad2@necpc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org auth 006a869a unsubscribe freebsd-net takashi@aminet.or.jp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Fri Jul 10 06:00:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA05725 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 06:00:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk (bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk [128.16.5.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA05719 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 06:00:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from P.Gevros@cs.ucl.ac.uk) Received: from froutopia.cs.ucl.ac.uk by bells.cs.ucl.ac.uk with local SMTP id ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:09:35 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.6 3/24/96 To: Graeme Brown cc: "FreeBSD-Net (FreeBSD.Org) List" , IDMR Mailing List Subject: Re: Network Visualisation/Management Software In-reply-to: Your message of "10 Jul 1998 10:12:29 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:09:34 +0100 Message-ID: <1338.900072574@cs.ucl.ac.uk> From: Panos GEVROS Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org HP Openview (Network Node Manager) does this sort of thing. if you are looking for public domain software i once came across mview (for the mbone) see: http://www.merit.edu/~mbone/mviewdoc/Welcome.html but when the graph starts growing it is hard to manage really, cheers, Panos Graeme Brown writes: |I was wondering if any one knew of any network visuaisation or |network management software in the pulic domain ? | |I have in mind something which could display network graphs |of router networks and be adaptible to display say routeing tables |learnt by SNMP GET calls to router MIBs etc. | |TIA |Graeme N Brown |BT Laboratories, UK |email: graeme.brown@bt-sys.bt.co.uk | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Fri Jul 10 14:01:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15240 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 14:01:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from arthur.axion.bt.co.uk (arthur.axion.bt.co.uk [132.146.5.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15227 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 14:01:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from graeme.brown@bt-sys.bt.co.uk) Received: from rambo (actually rambo.futures.bt.co.uk) by arthur.axion.bt.co.uk (PP) with SMTP; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 10:11:25 +0100 Received: from maczebedee (actually macsmtp) by rambo with SMTP (PP); Fri, 10 Jul 1998 10:12:20 +0100 Message-ID: Date: 10 Jul 1998 10:12:29 +0100 From: Graeme Brown Subject: Network Visualisation/Management Software To: "FreeBSD-Net (FreeBSD.Org) List" , IDMR Mailing List X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP for Quarterdeck Mail; Version 4.0.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I was wondering if any one knew of any network visuaisation or network management software in the pulic domain ? I have in mind something which could display network graphs of router networks and be adaptible to display say routeing tables learnt by SNMP GET calls to router MIBs etc. TIA Graeme N Brown BT Laboratories, UK email: graeme.brown@bt-sys.bt.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Fri Jul 10 15:11:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA27729 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 15:11:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (billf@hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA27653 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 15:10:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA114108643; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 18:10:43 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 18:10:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: Graeme Brown Cc: "FreeBSD-Net (FreeBSD.Org) List" , IDMR Mailing List Subject: Re: Network Visualisation/Management Software In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Check out /usr/ports/net/mrtg, it's a great little piece of software. On 10 Jul 1998, Graeme Brown wrote: > I was wondering if any one knew of any network visuaisation or > network management software in the pulic domain ? > > I have in mind something which could display network graphs > of router networks and be adaptible to display say routeing tables > learnt by SNMP GET calls to router MIBs etc. bill fumerola [root/billf]@chc-chimes.com computer horizons corp - www.computerhorizons.com ph:(800)252.2421 x128 / bill.fumerola@computerhorizons.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Fri Jul 10 15:38:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03219 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 15:38:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from i.caniserv.com (qmailr@i.caniserv.com [139.142.95.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA03209 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 15:38:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from darcy@ok-connect.com) Received: (qmail 14046 invoked from network); 10 Jul 1998 22:41:09 -0000 Received: from ccliii.caniserv.com (HELO dbitech) (darcyb@139.142.95.253) by 139.142.95.10 with SMTP; 10 Jul 1998 22:41:09 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980710154104.00c2fe80@mail.ok-connect.com> X-Sender: darcyb@mail.ok-connect.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 15:41:05 -0700 To: Graeme Brown From: Darcy Buskermolen Subject: Re: Network Visualisation/Management Software Cc: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes there is, ttt (/usr/ports/net/ttt) will let you display traffic on any segment of ethernet that the ttt is connected to At 10:12 AM 10/07/98 +0100, you wrote: >I was wondering if any one knew of any network visuaisation or >network management software in the pulic domain ? > >I have in mind something which could display network graphs >of router networks and be adaptible to display say routeing tables >learnt by SNMP GET calls to router MIBs etc. > >TIA >Graeme N Brown >BT Laboratories, UK >email: graeme.brown@bt-sys.bt.co.uk > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Fri Jul 10 15:56:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA06588 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 15:56:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.webspan.net (root@mail.webspan.net [206.154.70.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA06461 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 15:55:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from opsys@mail.webspan.net) Received: from orion.webspan.net (orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.5]) by mail.webspan.net (WEBSPAN/970608) with SMTP id SAA16171; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 18:48:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 18:55:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Open Systems Networking X-Sender: opsys@orion.webspan.net To: Graeme Brown cc: "FreeBSD-Net (FreeBSD.Org) List" , IDMR Mailing List Subject: Re: Network Visualisation/Management Software In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 10 Jul 1998, Graeme Brown wrote: > I was wondering if any one knew of any network visuaisation or > network management software in the pulic domain ? If you find anything pass it along. Someone could make a killing doing network monitoring for companies. Alot of the big consulting companies offer network management with HP OpenView for customers. If we had something like that it would be REALLY nice. But I don't recall ever seeing anything like that. So if you find something please pass it along. Chris -- "Linux... The choice of a GNUtered generation." ===================================| Open Systems Networking And Consulting. FreeBSD 2.2.6 is available now! | Phone: 316-326-6800 -----------------------------------| 1402 N. Washington, Wellington, KS-67152 FreeBSD: The power to serve! | E-Mail: opsys@open-systems.net http://www.freebsd.org | Consulting-Network Engineering-Security ===================================| http://open-systems.net -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQENAzPemUsAAAEH/06iF0BU8pMtdLJrxp/lLk3vg9QJCHajsd25gYtR8X1Px1Te gWU0C4EwMh4seDIgK9bzFmjjlZOEgS9zEgia28xDgeluQjuuMyUFJ58MzRlC2ONC foYIZsFyIqdjEOCBdfhH5bmgB5/+L5bjDK6lNdqD8OAhtC4Xnc1UxAKq3oUgVD/Z d5UJXU2xm+f08WwGZIUcbGcaonRC/6Z/5o8YpLVBpcFeLtKW5WwGhEMxl9WDZ3Kb NZH6bx15WiB2Q/gZQib3ZXhe1xEgRP+p6BnvF364I/To9kMduHpJKU97PH3dU7Mv CXk2NG3rtOgLTEwLyvtBPqLnbx35E0JnZc0k5YkABRO0JU9wZW4gU3lzdGVtcyA8 b3BzeXNAb3Blbi1zeXN0ZW1zLm5ldD4= =BBjp -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Fri Jul 10 16:04:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08078 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:04:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from the.oneinsane.net (insane@gw.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA08020 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:03:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from insane@the.oneinsane.net) Received: (from insane@localhost) by the.oneinsane.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) id QAA20504; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:03:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19980710160349.A19991@oneinsane.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:03:49 -0700 From: "Ron 'The Insane One' Rosson" To: Graeme Brown Cc: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Network Visualisation/Management Software Mail-Followup-To: Graeme Brown , freebsd-net@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Graeme Brown on Fri, Jul 10, 1998 at 10:12:29AM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD the.oneinsane.net 2.2.6-STABLE X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-Disclaimer: I am a firm believer in RTFM X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Any info you get on this I would be interested. TIA Ron On Fri, Jul 10, 1998 at 10:12:29AM +0100, Graeme Brown wrote: > I was wondering if any one knew of any network visuaisation or > network management software in the pulic domain ? > > I have in mind something which could display network graphs > of router networks and be adaptible to display say routeing tables > learnt by SNMP GET calls to router MIBs etc. > > TIA > Graeme N Brown > BT Laboratories, UK > email: graeme.brown@bt-sys.bt.co.uk > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message -- -------------------------------------------------------- Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was null and void -------------------------------------------------------- It's so nice to be insane, nobody asks you to explain. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Fri Jul 10 16:27:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA11914 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:27:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from terror.hungry.com (qmailr@terror.hungry.com [199.181.107.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA11901 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:27:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tspencer@hungry.com) Received: (qmail 513 invoked by uid 504); 10 Jul 1998 23:27:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19980710232735.512.qmail@terror.hungry.com> To: Open Systems Networking cc: Graeme Brown , "FreeBSD-Net \(FreeBSD.Org\) List" , IDMR Mailing List Subject: Re: Network Visualisation/Management Software In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 10 Jul 1998 18:55:48 EDT." Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:27:35 -0700 From: Tim Spencer Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org With large smiles, Open Systems Networking writes: >If you find anything pass it along. Someone could make a killing doing >network monitoring for companies. Alot of the big consulting companies >offer network management with HP OpenView for customers. If we had >something like that it would be REALLY nice. But I don't recall ever >seeing anything like that. So if you find something please pass it along. > There used to be something called "scotty" and "tkined" in /usr/ports/net, which did a lot of network mapping and SNMP query stuff. It was a strange Tk based app that utilized IRR and a bunch of other routing and snmp tools to scan subnets and routers and try to develop a reasonable network map. It didn't do monitoring, but it did do mapping and allow you to play around with the map much like OpenView does. Unfortunately, the last time I looked at the port, it was no longer working, so you may have to do some hacking to get it working again. When I had it working, it was really quite cool, though obviously not finished. You might want to check out: http://wwwhome.cs.utwente.nl/~schoenw/scotty/ for more info. Have fun! -tspencer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Fri Jul 10 16:28:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12121 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:28:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from stennis.ca.sandia.gov (stennis.ca.sandia.gov [146.246.243.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA12116 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:28:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@stennis.ca.sandia.gov) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by stennis.ca.sandia.gov (8.9.0/8.9.1) id QAA09730; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:27:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199807102327.QAA09730@stennis.ca.sandia.gov> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Graeme Brown Cc: "FreeBSD-Net (FreeBSD.Org) List" , IDMR Mailing List Subject: Re: Network Visualisation/Management Software In-Reply-To: Your message of "10 Jul 1998 10:12:29 BST." From: bmah@CA.Sandia.GOV (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@CA.Sandia.GOV X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Url: http://www.ca.sandia.gov/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-1716620440P"; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:27:34 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-1716620440P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Graeme Brown wrote: > I was wondering if any one knew of any network visuaisation or > network management software in the pulic domain ? > > I have in mind something which could display network graphs > of router networks and be adaptible to display say routeing tables > learnt by SNMP GET calls to router MIBs etc. Try the scotty-2.1.8 port. It does a lot of what you'd like, and, being partially a set of Tcl extensions, you can write your own scripts to extend its functionality. Bruce. --==_Exmh_-1716620440P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNaajZajOOi0j7CY9AQE9nQP/Ud4aWWs5K9rpTjqN4ARCJJ9JlRjhAFeq qzx2o3vn4IMoYtKWLO3aVWknUSBEuNEvqfpzqbYW00R6r3Aiqotap8KD+MAUA85x NXvSE8ddbgt4FLhI9tAFZNcdoRbTwu3hjXtEyokAMCNWLc+wXR+Kh27tJimE/cw/ YzU+5fNa0iI= =5TBI -----END PGP MESSAGE----- --==_Exmh_-1716620440P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Fri Jul 10 16:51:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA16412 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:51:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kit.isi.edu (kit.isi.edu [128.9.160.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16389 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:51:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eddy@kit.isi.edu) Received: (from eddy@localhost) by kit.isi.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA27182; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:52:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eddy) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:52:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199807102352.QAA27182@kit.isi.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: eddy@isi.edu To: Open Systems Networking Cc: Graeme Brown , "FreeBSD-Net (FreeBSD.Org) List" Subject: Re: Network Visualisation/Management Software In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.31 under 20.2 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Open Systems Networking states: > On 10 Jul 1998, Graeme Brown wrote: > > > I was wondering if any one knew of any network visuaisation or > > network management software in the pulic domain ? > > If you find anything pass it along. Someone could make a killing doing > network monitoring for companies. Alot of the big consulting companies > offer network management with HP OpenView for customers. If we had > something like that it would be REALLY nice. But I don't recall ever > seeing anything like that. So if you find something please pass it along. > > Chris > check out scotty, it's a tcl extenstion with lots of network management functionality. -rusty To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Fri Jul 10 16:57:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17403 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:57:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gras-varg.worldgate.com (skafte@gras-varg.worldgate.com [198.161.84.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17329 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 16:56:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from skafte@worldgate.com) Received: (from skafte@localhost) by gras-varg.worldgate.com (8.8.8/8.6.12) id RAA18141; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 17:56:33 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <19980710175633.F17392@worldgate.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 17:56:33 -0600 From: Greg Skafte To: Graeme Brown , "FreeBSD-Net (FreeBSD.Org) List" , IDMR Mailing List Subject: Re: Network Visualisation/Management Software References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Graeme Brown on Fri, Jul 10, 1998 at 10:12:29AM +0100 Organization: WorldGate Inc. X-PGP-Fingerprint: 42 9C 2C A8 4D 2B C9 C4 7D B6 00 B0 50 47 20 97 X-URL: http://gras-varg.worldgate.com/~skafte Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org /usr/ports/net/scotty is a Xbased thing ... uses SNMP to map the network and tries to draw pictures ..... Quoting Graeme Brown (graeme.brown@bt-sys.bt.co.uk) On Subject: Network Visualisation/Management Software Date: Fri, Jul 10, 1998 at 10:12:29AM +0100 > I was wondering if any one knew of any network visuaisation or > network management software in the pulic domain ? > > I have in mind something which could display network graphs > of router networks and be adaptible to display say routeing tables > learnt by SNMP GET calls to router MIBs etc. > > TIA > Graeme N Brown > BT Laboratories, UK > email: graeme.brown@bt-sys.bt.co.uk > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message -- Email: skafte@worldgate.com Voice: +403 413 1910 Fax: +403 421 4929 #575 Sun Life Place * 10123 99 Street * Edmonton, AB * Canada * T5J 3H1 -- -- When things can't get any worse, they simplify themselves by getting a whole lot worse then complicated. A complete and utter disaster is the simplest thing in the world; it's preventing one that's complex. (Janet Morris) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Fri Jul 10 17:59:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA00805 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 17:59:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from obie.softweyr.com ([204.68.178.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA00800 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 17:59:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@obie.softweyr.com) Received: (from wes@localhost) by obie.softweyr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA05159; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 18:58:54 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wes) From: Wes Peters Message-Id: <199807110058.SAA05159@obie.softweyr.com> Subject: Re: DNS zone xfers from random(?) sites In-Reply-To: <199807101158.VAA15030@mail.aussie.org> from Hallam Oaks P/L list account at "Jul 10, 98 09:59:07 pm" To: maillist@oaks.com.au Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 18:58:53 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I've been primary DNS for a few domains for about two or three years now. > Right now my machine hosts about six primary DNS entries. Each of the > primaries is backed by two secondaries. So far so good. > > Recently (a few months ago) I added a new domain - mgr.org.au - and have > since started noticing a pattern of zone transfers that I do not > explicitly recall seeing before on any of my other domains. > > [...] > > While I could of course block them from doing this I am curious as to > whether or not anyone can offer up any suggestion as to _why_ this may be > happening, and if there is any legitimate explanation for it. [...] > > If there's a legitimate purpose for it I'll just let it continue. I know > it's possible to do manual zone transfers (heck, I've done it myself) but > I can't figure out why so many different sites ... I can't think of anything off the top of my head. Are the sites that are transferring repeating this act, or is this just a lit of random sites around the world? Do any of the DNS diagnostic tools, like dnswalk, zone-transfer a domain? I've lately been getting a weekly email from someon in .nl about a lame delegation problem; the secondary server my ISP chose is ont responding. They're moving secondary services to a server they own at a co-locate site, in the meantime, I'm lame. ;^) Perhaps the diagnostic software that discovers these problems does zone transfers to get the scoop on the domain? Best of luck. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.softweyr.com/~softweyr wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-net Sat Jul 11 02:44:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA17628 for freebsd-net-outgoing; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 02:44:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from teil.soft.net (teil.soft.net [164.164.10.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA17614 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 02:44:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from manojg@teil.soft.net) Received: by teil.soft.net (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id PAA05135; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 15:15:32 -0530 Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 15:14:59 -0530 (IST) From: Manoj Goyal Subject: subscribe To: freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org sumscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message