From owner-freebsd-small Tue Oct 20 14:06:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03171 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:06:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03157 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:06:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from diabolique.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.59.205]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA1768; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 23:05:55 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 23:08:38 +0200 (CEST) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: picoBSD , Andrzej Bialecki Subject: More picoBSD ideas Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I am currently almost completely switched over to FreeBSD, now to get my Eudora mail archives under XFMail. Any ideas if they are interchangeable like Pine <> Eudora? (NOTE: where using statements such as 'picoBSD's lpr program' it is not a suggestion that it isn't FreeBSD's one or that I am trying to degrade FreeBSD, merely being too lazy to keep typing picoBSD/FreeBSD ;) The following is/are merely (a) rough sketch/suggestions in an effort to try to set goals in near and longterm future and to co-ordinate the effort which is picoBSD, which in my eyes has a great future ahead of itself. Hope ye all share this view and appreciate the things I am trying to get clear for us all. Here we go, some food for the mind, as always, comments and additions please: Configuration ------------- Modular set-up with something akin to a bootdisk/bootprom which would allow for a networked/linked installation which obviously allows for very customized set-ups. Sources publicly available through the CVS-tree. Versioning ---------- Same as normal FreeBSD where applicable, e.g.: CURRENT, RELEASE & STABLE. Use of own versioning encouraged to denote current state of the picoBSD kernel and other stuff. (NOTE: I speak of the picoBSD kernel because the FreeBSD kernel is crunched and shrunken in other ways.) Networking ---------- Standard FreeBSD networking support (TCP/IP, Ethernet, (additions please)) trying to get X.25, XNS, etc back into FreeBSD/picoBSD to make one of the best networking OS's even more versatile (additions/requests). Profiles -------- Allow for creation of accounts that have settable level of control/configuration over the device. Allow deletion of initial master account: yes/no? Allow rename of initial master account: yes/no? Management and Control ---------------------- SNMPv1, SNMPv2, RMON, serial line, telnet, ssh, (additions) Routing ------- RIP, RIPv2, OSPF/OSPFv2, BGP, IGMP, CGMP, PIM, QoS, NLSP (if it is usable beyond Novell NetWare scope), (additions) Authentication -------------- RADIUS, TACACS, XTACACS, PAP, CHAP, Kerberos Services -------- Use of picoBSD/FreeBSD lpr/lpd/lpq for networked printing. UI/Frontend ----------- Complete replacement of standard sh and cohorts. Support for autocompletion. Maybe use of W for graphical frontend akin to X-Window System. Use of a small httpd for Web-based configuration. 'picoBSD Team' responsibilities ------------------------------- Andrzej as Team-leader ;) To make sure current code used for the picoBSD packages/modules are screened for any security holes and if they are patched accordingly to the known and unknown bugs with homemade patches or by recognised patches. Decide upon courses in which areas picoBSD can manifest itself. --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl Junior Network/Security Specialist FreeBSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Tue Oct 20 14:13:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03890 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:13:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03885 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:13:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from diabolique.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.59.205]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA5FC3; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 23:12:47 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 23:15:29 +0200 (CEST) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: picoBSD , Andrzej Bialecki Subject: Languages Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Forgot one slight thing ;) If need be, I can maintain the Dutch language support for picoBSD. Any need to maintain locale versions? (I think we would be better off with using some sort of language module which changes everything like messages and such using indexed messages). regards, --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl Junior Network/Security Specialist FreeBSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Oct 21 10:16:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12515 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:16:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [148.81.160.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12505 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:16:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA22230; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:21:27 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:21:27 +0200 (CEST) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai cc: picoBSD Subject: Re: Languages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > Forgot one slight thing ;) > > If need be, I can maintain the Dutch language support for picoBSD. Great! For now, you can just translate the docs in ${LANGUAGE} directories, and send them to me. Andrzej Bialecki -------------------- ++-------++ ------------------------------------- ||PicoBSD|| FreeBSD in your pocket? Go and see: Research & Academic |+-------+| "Small & Embedded FreeBSD" Network in Poland | |TT~~~| | http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ -------------------- ~-+==---+-+ ------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Oct 21 11:40:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA22130 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:40:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22118 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:40:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from diabolique.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.58.207]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA4DC5; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:39:45 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:42:36 +0200 (CEST) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Andrzej Bialecki Subject: Re: Languages Cc: picoBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 21-Oct-98 Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > >> Forgot one slight thing ;) >> >> If need be, I can maintain the Dutch language support for picoBSD. > > Great! For now, you can just translate the docs in ${LANGUAGE} > directories, and send them to me. How about just using CVSup? =) > -------------------- ++-------++ ------------------------------------- > ||PicoBSD|| FreeBSD in your pocket? Go and see: > Research & Academic |+-------+| "Small & Embedded FreeBSD" > Network in Poland | |TT~~~| | http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ > -------------------- ~-+==---+-+ ------------------------------------- Glad to see yer floppy is correct aligned now ;) --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl Junior Network/Security Specialist FreeBSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Oct 21 13:24:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06120 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:24:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [148.81.160.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06115 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:24:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA05430; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:29:30 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:29:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai cc: picoBSD Subject: Re: Languages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > On 21-Oct-98 Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > > > >> Forgot one slight thing ;) > >> > >> If need be, I can maintain the Dutch language support for picoBSD. > > > > Great! For now, you can just translate the docs in ${LANGUAGE} > > directories, and send them to me. > > How about just using CVSup? =) CVSup works unidirectionally - you can download changes, but you can't upload them - you would have to have so called "commit privileges". Since I have them, and you don't, I propose that you submit the changes to me, then I'll review them and commit (of course with proper notice that you're the author of these particular pieces). Andrzej Bialecki -------------------- ++-------++ ------------------------------------- ||PicoBSD|| FreeBSD in your pocket? Go and see: Research & Academic |+-------+| "Small & Embedded FreeBSD" Network in Poland | |TT~~~| | http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ -------------------- ~-+==---+-+ ------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Oct 21 13:32:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07018 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:32:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07006 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:32:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from diabolique.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.59.39]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA53C2; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:31:59 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:34:39 +0200 (CEST) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Andrzej Bialecki Subject: Re: Languages Cc: picoBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 21-Oct-98 Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: >> How about just using CVSup? =) > > CVSup works unidirectionally - you can download changes, but you can't > upload them - you would have to have so called "commit privileges". Since > I have them, and you don't, I propose that you submit the changes to me, > then I'll review them and commit (of course with proper notice that you're > the author of these particular pieces). Hey! that might explain the reason I couldn't find anything about it in the man pages and such ;) Okies, ye will get them dripping in slowly ;) --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl Junior Network/Security Specialist FreeBSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Oct 22 18:44:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA05869 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:44:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlynx.com (nlynx.com [204.251.57.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA05781 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:43:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian.burton@nlynx.com) Message-Id: <199810230143.SAA05781@hub.freebsd.org> Received: from [207.207.2.147] ([207.207.2.147]) by nlynx.com (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.2 (693.3 8-11-1998)) with SMTP id 862566A6.0009742E; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:43:16 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 20:48:24 -0600 Subject: How do I subscribe to this list From: "Brian Burton" To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe Brian Burton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Sat Oct 24 05:31:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA08528 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 05:31:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [148.81.160.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA08523 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 05:31:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA26206 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 14:36:40 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 14:36:40 +0200 (CEST) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: TODO list Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-702376026-909232600=:23108" Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-702376026-909232600=:23108 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Following the recent Jeroen's posting, I'd like to present a long awaited list of TODO items. Please comment on it - I'd like to get your input before I put it on WWW. Thanks. Andrzej Bialecki -------------------- ++-------++ ------------------------------------- ||PicoBSD|| FreeBSD in your pocket? 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