From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 17 00:57:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA19642 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 17 May 1998 00:57:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA19637 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 00:57:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dag-erli@ifi.uio.no) Received: from hrotti.ifi.uio.no (2602@hrotti.ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.15]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with ESMTP id JAA23405; Sun, 17 May 1998 09:57:39 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from dag-erli@localhost) by hrotti.ifi.uio.no ; Sun, 17 May 1998 09:57:39 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Dillon Cc: "Dag-Erling Coidan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=2C?= \"Jordan K. Hubbard\"" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hello.....? Whomever broke -stable, are you going to fix it? References: Organization: University of Oslo, Department of Informatics X-url: http://www.stud.ifi.uio.no/~dag-erli/ X-Stop-Spam: http://www.cauce.org From: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling Coidan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= ) Date: 17 May 1998 09:57:38 +0200 In-Reply-To: Chris Dillon's message of "Sat, 16 May 1998 20:03:41 -0500 (CDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 12 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Chris Dillon writes: > My local "snapshots" are dying on the GENERIC kernel. I don't know if the > building of sh comes before or after GENERIC, but here's where it dies. > > (snip) > ../../dev/dpt/dpt_control.c:58: sys/dpt.h: No such file or directory > [...] Yup, GENERIC dies on dpt here too... -- Noone else has a .sig like this one. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 17 06:31:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA21731 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 17 May 1998 06:31:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from px.f1.ru (px.f1.ru [194.87.86.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA21725 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 06:31:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from am@px.f1.ru) Received: (from am@localhost) by px.f1.ru (8.8.8/amsoft/1.0) id RAA26922 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 May 1998 17:27:08 +0400 (MSD) From: Andrew Maltsev Message-Id: <199805171327.RAA26922@px.f1.ru> Subject: Any problems with NATD in -stable? To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 17:27:07 +0400 (MSD) Reply-To: am@f1.ru Organization: F1 communications X-Phone: +7-086-229-9988 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I'm using natd/ipfw and redirect_port to provide external access to one internal resource (SNPP server). In some circumstances (not exactly understood yet) when the server sends about 4 kb of output the connection falls to a state when no data sent from server passes to client. It seems, that there no problems with fragmentation, because `ping -s 4000 external-server' works okay. The client is '95 based - both manual telnet and SNPP client workplace falls. When absolutely the same combination of software/links is used without natd all works ok. What is possible origin of problem? What additional information can I provide? Andrew. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 17 07:47:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA27244 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 17 May 1998 07:47:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from px.f1.ru (px.f1.ru [194.87.86.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA27236 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 07:46:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from am@px.f1.ru) Received: (from am@localhost) by px.f1.ru (8.8.8/amsoft/1.0) id SAA02434 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 17 May 1998 18:41:03 +0400 (MSD) Received: (from am@localhost) by px.f1.ru (8.8.8/amsoft/1.0) id SAA02412 for am@px.f1.ru; Sun, 17 May 1998 18:40:28 +0400 (MSD) From: Andrew Maltsev Message-Id: <199805171440.SAA02412@px.f1.ru> Subject: Re: Any problems with NATD in -stable? To: am@px.f1.ru Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 18:40:28 +0400 (MSD) Reply-To: am@f1.ru Organization: F1 communications X-Phone: +7-086-229-9988 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Sorry, it was fragmentation -- i'd optimized :) ipfw add divert natd ip from any to any via ed1 to ipfw add divert natd tcp from any to any via ed1 and forgot about icmp `fragmentation required' messages.. In article <199805171327.RAA26922@px.f1.ru> you wrote: > I'm using natd/ipfw and redirect_port to provide external access to one > internal resource (SNPP server). > > In some circumstances (not exactly understood yet) when the server sends > about 4 kb of output the connection falls to a state when no data sent > from server passes to client. It seems, that there no problems with > fragmentation, because `ping -s 4000 external-server' works okay. > > The client is '95 based - both manual telnet and SNPP client workplace > falls. When absolutely the same combination of software/links is used > without natd all works ok. > > What is possible origin of problem? What additional information can I > provide? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 17 08:00:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA28361 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 17 May 1998 08:00:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from colin.muc.de (root@colin.muc.de [193.174.4.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA28352 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 08:00:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lutz@muc.de) Received: from tavari.muc.de ([193.174.4.22]) by colin.muc.de with SMTP id <140585-1>; Sun, 17 May 1998 13:10:57 +0200 Received: from muc.de (abraxas [192.168.42.5]) by tavari.muc.de (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA00949 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 12:45:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <355EB93D.43802736@muc.de> Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 12:17:33 +0200 From: Lutz Albers X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 2.2.6 ppp breaks compatability with T-Online ppp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi, I just upgraded my server from 2.2.5 to 2.2.6. After this upgrade ppp (user level) is no longer able to connect to the german ISP T-Online. The 2.2.5 version worked just fine (I have recompiled the version from the 2.2.5 sources and it works again). Here is the output from ppp.log: May 16 23:39:09 morranon ppp[1874]: Command: default: set timeout 70 May 16 23:39:09 morranon ppp[1874]: Command: default: set dial ... (deleted) May 16 23:39:09 morranon ppp[1874]: Phase: Using interface: tun0 May 16 23:39:09 morranon ppp[1874]: Command: tol: set phone 0191011 May 16 23:39:09 morranon ppp[1874]: Command: tol: deny chap May 16 23:39:09 morranon ppp[1874]: Command: tol: accept pap May 16 23:39:09 morranon ppp[1874]: Command: tol: set authname (deleted) May 16 23:39:09 morranon ppp[1874]: Command: tol: set authkey ******** May 16 23:39:09 morranon ppp[1874]: Command: tol: set ifaddr 0 0 May 16 23:39:09 morranon ppp[1874]: Command: tol: set afilter 0 deny icmp May 16 23:39:09 morranon ppp[1874]: Command: tol: set afilter 1 deny udp src eq 53 May 16 23:39:09 morranon ppp[1874]: Command: tol: set afilter 2 deny udp dst eq 53 May 16 23:39:09 morranon ppp[1874]: Command: tol: set afilter 3 deny udp src eq 520 May 16 23:39:09 morranon ppp[1874]: Command: tol: set afilter 4 deny udp dst eq 520 May 16 23:39:09 morranon ppp[1874]: Command: tol: set afilter 5 permit 0/0 0/0 May 16 23:39:09 morranon ppp[1874]: Command: tol: set dfilter 0 deny icmp May 16 23:39:09 morranon ppp[1874]: Command: tol: set dfilter 1 deny tcp src eq 25 May 16 23:39:10 morranon ppp[1874]: Command: tol: set dfilter 2 deny tcp dst eq 25 May 16 23:39:10 morranon ppp[1874]: Command: tol: set dfilter 3 permit 0/0 0/0 May 16 23:39:10 morranon ppp[1874]: Phase: PPP Started. May 16 23:39:13 morranon ppp[1874]: Command: dial May 16 23:39:13 morranon ppp[1874]: Phase: Connected! May 16 23:39:13 morranon ppp[1874]: Connect: AT&B54\P3^M^M May 16 23:39:13 morranon ppp[1874]: Connect: OK May 16 23:39:15 morranon ppp[1874]: Phase: Phone: 0191011 May 16 23:39:15 morranon ppp[1874]: Connect: ^M May 16 23:39:18 morranon ppp[1874]: Connect: ATD0191011^M^M May 16 23:39:18 morranon ppp[1874]: Connect: CONNECT May 16 23:39:19 morranon ppp[1874]: Phase: NewPhase: Authenticate May 16 23:39:19 morranon ppp[1874]: Phase: his = PAP, mine = none May 16 23:39:19 morranon ppp[1874]: Phase: PAP: (deleted) May 16 23:39:19 morranon ppp[1874]: Phase: PapInput: ACK May 16 23:39:19 morranon ppp[1874]: Phase: Received PAP_ACK () May 16 23:39:19 morranon ppp[1874]: Phase: NewPhase: Network May 16 23:39:20 morranon ppp[1874]: Phase: Disconnected! May 16 23:39:20 morranon ppp[1874]: Phase: Modem: Connect time: 7 secs: 427 octets in, 600 octets out May 16 23:39:20 morranon ppp[1874]: Phase: total 146 bytes/sec May 16 23:39:20 morranon ppp[1874]: Phase: NewPhase: Dead If someone wants more info's, then just contact. ciao lutz -- Lutz Albers, lutz@muc.de Do not take life too seriously, you will never get out of it alive. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 17 10:59:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19584 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 17 May 1998 10:59:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19575 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 10:59:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gibbs@narnia.plutotech.com) Received: (from gibbs@localhost) by narnia.plutotech.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) id LAA03094; Sun, 17 May 1998 11:55:08 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 11:55:08 -0600 (MDT) From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Message-Id: <199805171755.LAA03094@narnia.plutotech.com> To: Chris Dillon cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hello.....? Whomever broke -stable, are you going to fix it? Newsgroups: pluto.freebsd.stable In-Reply-To: User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-971204 (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.0-CURRENT (i386)) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > My local "snapshots" are dying on the GENERIC kernel. I don't know if the > building of sh comes before or after GENERIC, but here's where it dies. > > (snip) > ../../dev/dpt/dpt_control.c:58: sys/dpt.h: No such file or directory > ../../dev/dpt/dpt_control.c:389: warning: #warning "O/S Version > determination is an u > gly hack" > ../../dev/dpt/dpt_scsi.c:86: sys/dpt.h: No such file or directory > ../../pci/dpt_pci.c:53: sys/dpt.h: No such file or directory > ../../i386/eisa/dpt_eisa.c:53: sys/dpt.h: No such file or directory > mkdep: compile failed > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > (snip) I tagged the missing file into -stable last night. It should work after your next sync. -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 17 11:37:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25434 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 17 May 1998 11:37:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from duey.hs.wolves.k12.mo.us (root@duey.hs.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25423 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 11:37:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Received: from duey.hs.wolves.k12.mo.us (cdillon@duey.hs.wolves.k12.mo.us [207.160.214.9]) by duey.hs.wolves.k12.mo.us (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA02433; Sun, 17 May 1998 13:37:15 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us) Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 13:37:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Dillon X-Sender: cdillon@duey.hs.wolves.k12.mo.us To: "Justin T. Gibbs" cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hello.....? Whomever broke -stable, are you going to fix it? In-Reply-To: <199805171755.LAA03094@narnia.plutotech.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Sun, 17 May 1998, Justin T. Gibbs wrote: > > My local "snapshots" are dying on the GENERIC kernel. I don't know if the > > building of sh comes before or after GENERIC, but here's where it dies. > > > > (snip) > > ../../dev/dpt/dpt_control.c:58: sys/dpt.h: No such file or directory > > ../../dev/dpt/dpt_control.c:389: warning: #warning "O/S Version > > determination is an u > > gly hack" > > ../../dev/dpt/dpt_scsi.c:86: sys/dpt.h: No such file or directory > > ../../pci/dpt_pci.c:53: sys/dpt.h: No such file or directory > > ../../i386/eisa/dpt_eisa.c:53: sys/dpt.h: No such file or directory > > mkdep: compile failed > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop. > > (snip) > > I tagged the missing file into -stable last night. It should work after > your next sync. Yup. Synced a little earlier this morning and made GENERIC by hand to see if it worked. Thanks. Now hopefully the make release won't die anywhere else. I guess I'll know in about 8 hours. :-) -- Chris Dillon --- cdillon@inter-linc.net --- cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us /* FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet. For Intel x86 and compatibles (SPARC and Alpha under development) (http://www.freebsd.org) */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 17 13:23:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA13031 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 17 May 1998 13:23:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kaori.communique.net (kaori.communique.net [204.27.67.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12893 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 13:22:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rzig@verio.net) Received: by kaori.communique.net with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Sun, 17 May 1998 15:21:52 -0500 Message-ID: From: Raul Zighelboim To: "'Justin T. Gibbs'" , Chris Dillon Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Hello.....? Whomever broke -stable, are you going to fix it? Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 15:21:50 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Something is still broken ? The same configuration compiles ok under 2.2.6-RELEASE: nntp: make loading kernel dpt_eisa.o: Undefined symbol `_eisa_match_dev' referenced from text segment dpt_eisa.o: Undefined symbol `_eisa_add_iospace' referenced from text segment dpt_eisa.o: Undefined symbol `_eisa_add_intr' referenced from text segment dpt_eisa.o: Undefined symbol `_eisa_registerdev' referenced from text segment dpt_eisa.o: Undefined symbol `_eisa_reg_start' referenced from text segment dpt_eisa.o: Undefined symbol `_eisa_reg_iospace' referenced from text segment dpt_eisa.o: Undefined symbol `_eisa_reg_intr' referenced from text segment dpt_eisa.o: Undefined symbol `_eisa_reg_end' referenced from text segment dpt_eisa.o: Undefined symbol `_eisa_enable_intr' referenced from text segment dpt_eisa.o: Undefined symbol `_eisa_release_intr' referenced from text segment isa.o: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment isa.o: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment isa.o: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment isa.o: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment isa.o: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment isa.o: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment isa.o: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment isa.o: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment *** Error code 1 Stop. > -----Original Message----- > From: Justin T. Gibbs [SMTP:gibbs@narnia.plutotech.com] > Sent: Sunday, May 17, 1998 12:55 PM > To: Chris Dillon > Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Hello.....? Whomever broke -stable, are you going > to fix it? > > > My local "snapshots" are dying on the GENERIC kernel. I don't know > if the > > building of sh comes before or after GENERIC, but here's where it > dies. > > > > (snip) > > ../../dev/dpt/dpt_control.c:58: sys/dpt.h: No such file or directory > > ../../dev/dpt/dpt_control.c:389: warning: #warning "O/S Version > > determination is an u > > gly hack" > > ../../dev/dpt/dpt_scsi.c:86: sys/dpt.h: No such file or directory > > ../../pci/dpt_pci.c:53: sys/dpt.h: No such file or directory > > ../../i386/eisa/dpt_eisa.c:53: sys/dpt.h: No such file or directory > > mkdep: compile failed > > *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop. > > (snip) > > I tagged the missing file into -stable last night. It should work > after > your next sync. > > -- > Justin > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 17 14:13:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18833 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 17 May 1998 14:13:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pluto.plutotech.com (mail.plutotech.com [206.168.67.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18801 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 14:12:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gibbs@plutotech.com) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by pluto.plutotech.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09128; Sun, 17 May 1998 15:12:56 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199805172112.PAA09128@pluto.plutotech.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Raul Zighelboim cc: "'Justin T. Gibbs'" , Chris Dillon , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hello.....? Whomever broke -stable, are you going to fix it? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 17 May 1998 15:21:50 CDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 15:08:44 -0600 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > >Something is still broken ? >The same configuration compiles ok under 2.2.6-RELEASE: First off, you must recompile config and re-config your kernel. You will also need to either add eisa0 to your config file or sync to dpt_eisa.c from -stable again. -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 17 14:31:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22331 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 17 May 1998 14:31:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kaori.communique.net (kaori.communique.net [204.27.67.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20963 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 14:20:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rzig@verio.net) Received: by kaori.communique.net with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Sun, 17 May 1998 16:19:29 -0500 Message-ID: From: Raul Zighelboim To: "'Justin T. Gibbs'" Cc: Chris Dillon , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Hello.....? Whomever broke -stable, are you going to fix it? Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 16:19:27 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I do not have an eisa controller. Why do I need dpt_eisa at all ? > -----Original Message----- > From: Justin T. Gibbs [SMTP:gibbs@plutotech.com] > Sent: Sunday, May 17, 1998 4:09 PM > To: Raul Zighelboim > Cc: 'Justin T. Gibbs'; Chris Dillon; stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Hello.....? Whomever broke -stable, are you going to > fix it? > > > > >Something is still broken ? > >The same configuration compiles ok under 2.2.6-RELEASE: > > First off, you must recompile config and re-config your kernel. > > You will also need to either add eisa0 to your config file or sync > to dpt_eisa.c from -stable again. > > -- > Justin > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 17 14:55:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA24631 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 17 May 1998 14:55:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24594 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 14:55:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id VAA19849; Sun, 17 May 1998 21:36:03 GMT Message-ID: <19980517143603.24636@nuxi.com> Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 14:36:03 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 980513 CAM snapshot available Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: <199805151640.KAA06270@pluto.plutotech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: <199805151640.KAA06270@pluto.plutotech.com>; from Justin T. Gibbs on Fri, May 15, 1998 at 10:36:28AM -0600 X-Warning: Mutt Bites! X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE Organization: The NUXI *BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I found a very minor bug in the -STABLE CAM patches, in which you couldn't have "root on da0" in your kernel config file. Justin sent this fix: -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.ucdavis.edu -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) Index: devices.i386 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/sys/i386/conf/devices.i386,v retrieving revision 1.9.4.1 diff -c -r1.9.4.1 devices.i386 *** devices.i386 1998/01/16 22:28:40 1.9.4.1 --- devices.i386 1998/05/17 16:12:18 *************** *** 6,18 **** dk 1 fd 2 wt 3 ! sd 4 ! st 5 cd 6 mcd 7 vn 15 scd 16 pcd 17 wcd 19 - od 20 wfd 21 --- 6,17 ---- dk 1 fd 2 wt 3 ! da 4 ! sa 5 cd 6 mcd 7 vn 15 scd 16 pcd 17 wcd 19 wfd 21 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 17 14:56:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA24691 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 17 May 1998 14:56:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24598 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 14:55:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id VAA19871; Sun, 17 May 1998 21:38:03 GMT Message-ID: <19980517143803.39354@nuxi.com> Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 14:38:03 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 980513 CAM snapshot available Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: <199805151640.KAA06270@pluto.plutotech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: <199805151640.KAA06270@pluto.plutotech.com>; from Justin T. Gibbs on Fri, May 15, 1998 at 10:36:28AM -0600 X-Warning: Mutt Bites! X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE Organization: The NUXI *BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I've having problems with CAM and an old Toshiba XM-3401 CDROM drive. Justin sent me this patch to get better debuging information. If anyone is having CAM problems, you might want to apply to, so you can give Justin a little more information: *** sys/dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx.c.orig --- sys/dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx.c *************** *** 2157,2163 **** if (ahc_ccb_status(ccb) == CAM_BDR_SENT) ahc_set_ccb_status(ccb, CAM_CMD_TIMEOUT); xpt_print_path(ccb->ccb_h.path); ! printf("no longer in timeout\n"); } if ((scb->flags & (SCB_MSGOUT_WDTR|SCB_MSGOUT_SDTR)) != 0) { /* --- 2157,2164 ---- if (ahc_ccb_status(ccb) == CAM_BDR_SENT) ahc_set_ccb_status(ccb, CAM_CMD_TIMEOUT); xpt_print_path(ccb->ccb_h.path); ! printf("no longer in timeout, status = %x\n", ! ccb->ccb_h.status); } if ((scb->flags & (SCB_MSGOUT_WDTR|SCB_MSGOUT_SDTR)) != 0) { /* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 17 15:12:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA29265 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 17 May 1998 15:12:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from d183-205.uoregon.edu (d183-205.uoregon.edu [128.223.183.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA29094 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 15:11:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gurney_j@efn.org) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by d183-205.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA05533; Sun, 17 May 1998 15:11:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19980517151132.28201@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 15:11:32 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: problems building world... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id PAA29118 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk well, I'm trying to buildworld on 2.2.1-R, but I keep getting: -------------------------------------------------------------- Rebuilding /usr/lib -------------------------------------------------------------- cd /a/home/johng/FreeBSD-checkout/releng22/src && PATH=/usr/obj/a/home/johng/FreeBSD-checkout/releng22/src/tmp/sbin:/usr/obj/a/home/johng/FreeBSD-checkout/releng22/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/a/home/johng/FreeBSD-checkout/releng22/src/tmp/bin:/usr/obj/a/home/johng/FreeBSD-checkout/releng22/src/tmp/usr/bin:/a/home/johng/bin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/samba/bin:/usr/local/news/bin:/usr/local/lib/gnats: BISON_SIMPLE=/usr/obj/a/home/johng/FreeBSD-checkout/releng22/src/tmp/usr/share/misc/bison.simple COMPILER_PATH=/usr/obj/a/home/johng/FreeBSD-checkout/releng22/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/obj/a/home/johng/FreeBSD-checkout/releng22/src/tmp/usr/bin GCC_EXEC_PREFIX=/usr/obj/a/home/johng/FreeBSD-checkout/releng22/src/tmp/usr/lib/ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/a/home/johng/FreeBSD-checkout/releng22/src/tmp/usr/lib LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/a/home/johng/FreeBSD-checkout/releng22/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/a/home/johng/FreeBSD-checkout/releng22/src/tmp/usr/lib NOEXTRADEPEND=t /usr/obj/a/home/johng/FreeBSD-checkout/releng22/src/tmp/usr/bin/make DESTDIR=/usr/obj/a/home/johng/FreeBSD-checkout/releng22/src/tmp libraries [...] install -c -o jmg -g admin -m 444 libc_pic.a /usr/obj/a/home/johng/FreeBSD-che ckout/releng22/src/tmp/usr/lib ld.so failed: Undefined symbol "___generic_syscall" in install:/usr/obj/a/home/j ohng/FreeBSD-checkout/releng22/src/tmp/usr/lib/libc.so.3.1 *** Error code 1 Stop. after running nm on libc_pic.a you can see multiple references to undefined ___generic_syscall in libc_pic.a and libc.a, but there are NO references to ___generic_syscall in libc.so.3.1... thanks for the help... -- John-Mark Gurney Modem Rev/FAX: +1 541 346 9237 Cu Networking P.O. Box 5693, 97405 Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD Don't trust anyone you don't have the source for To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 17 15:14:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA29722 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 17 May 1998 15:14:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pluto.plutotech.com (mail.plutotech.com [206.168.67.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA29545 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 15:13:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gibbs@plutotech.com) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by pluto.plutotech.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09542; Sun, 17 May 1998 15:24:02 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199805172124.PAA09542@pluto.plutotech.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Raul Zighelboim cc: "'Justin T. Gibbs'" , Chris Dillon , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hello.....? Whomever broke -stable, are you going to fix it? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 17 May 1998 16:19:27 CDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 15:19:50 -0600 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > >I do not have an eisa controller. Why do I need dpt_eisa at all ? Because of the silly way in which our config works. You can't currently say, "give me this file if 'dpt' and 'eisa' are true". You can only say, "give me this file if 'dpt' or 'eisa' are true". This doesn't help much. So, the way to work around this is to make all of dpt_eisa.c conditional on NEISA being greater than 0. I just did this in both current and stable. -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 17 15:27:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03181 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 17 May 1998 15:27:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA03030 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 15:27:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dag-erli@ifi.uio.no) Received: from hrotti.ifi.uio.no (2602@hrotti.ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.15]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with ESMTP id AAA01175; Mon, 18 May 1998 00:26:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from dag-erli@localhost) by hrotti.ifi.uio.no ; Mon, 18 May 1998 00:26:56 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@NUXI.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 980513 CAM snapshot available References: <199805151640.KAA06270@pluto.plutotech.com> <19980517143603.24636@nuxi.com> Organization: University of Oslo, Department of Informatics X-url: http://www.stud.ifi.uio.no/~dag-erli/ X-Stop-Spam: http://www.cauce.org From: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling Coidan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= ) Date: 18 May 1998 00:26:55 +0200 In-Reply-To: "David O'Brien"'s message of "Sun, 17 May 1998 14:36:03 -0700" Message-ID: Lines: 12 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk "David O'Brien" writes: > ! sd 4 > ! st 5 > --- > ! da 4 > ! sa 5 What is the rationale behind the name change btw? What's wrong with "sd" and "st"? (or am I missing something fundamental here?) -- Noone else has a .sig like this one. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 17 15:54:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08594 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 17 May 1998 15:54:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08569 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 15:54:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id WAA20059; Sun, 17 May 1998 22:54:36 GMT Message-ID: <19980517155436.16637@nuxi.com> Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 15:54:36 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Coidan_Sm=F8rgrav_?= Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 980513 CAM snapshot available Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: <199805151640.KAA06270@pluto.plutotech.com> <19980517143603.24636@nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=3Cxzplns0lej4=2Efsf=40hrotti=2Eifi=2Euio=2Eno=3E=3B_from?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_Dag-Erling_Coidan_Sm=F8rgrav__on_Mon=2C_May_18=2C_1998_a?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?t_12=3A26=3A55AM_+0200?= X-Warning: Mutt Bites! X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE Organization: The NUXI *BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > What is the rationale behind the name change btw? What's wrong with > "sd" and "st"? (or am I missing something fundamental here?) This has been brought up before in the "freebsd-scsi" list. I don't have the archive handy, so I'll have to refer you to the mailing list archive search on the webpage (http://www.freebsd.org). -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.ucdavis.edu -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 17 17:03:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA20658 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 17 May 1998 17:03:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA20641 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 17:03:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA17758; Mon, 18 May 1998 01:03:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@gate.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199805180003.BAA17758@awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Lutz Albers cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.6 ppp breaks compatability with T-Online ppp In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 17 May 1998 12:17:33 +0200." <355EB93D.43802736@muc.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 01:03:34 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Hi, > > I just upgraded my server from 2.2.5 to 2.2.6. After this upgrade ppp > (user level) is no longer able to connect to the german ISP T-Online. > The 2.2.5 version worked just fine (I have recompiled the version from > the 2.2.5 sources and it works again). Here is the output from ppp.log: [.....] > If someone wants more info's, then just contact. I think we need to see the LCP and IPCP logs too. This looks like failed negotiation :-/ > ciao > lutz > > -- > Lutz Albers, lutz@muc.de > Do not take life too seriously, you will never get out of it alive. -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 17 17:35:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26751 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 17 May 1998 17:35:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cesit1.unifi.it (cesit1.unifi.it [150.217.1.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26639 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 17:34:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ugo@dsi.UNIFI.IT) Received: from aguirre.dsi.unifi.it by CESIT1.UNIFI.IT (PMDF V5.1-10 #23168) with SMTP id <01IX5VHF5JEY00018G@CESIT1.UNIFI.IT> for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 18 May 1998 02:35:00 MET Received: from dsi.unifi.it (com4.unifi.it) by aguirre.dsi.unifi.it (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00454; Fri, 15 May 1998 23:22:58 +0200 Received: from pegasus.home.net (pegasus.home.net [192.168.1.3]) by dsi.unifi.it (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00267; Sun, 17 May 1998 14:24:28 +0200 (MET DST envelope-from ugo) Received: (from ugo@localhost) by pegasus.home.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id OAA00302; Sun, 17 May 1998 14:24:28 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 14:24:28 +0200 (MET DST) From: Ugo Paternostro Subject: Re: mount_msdos and msdosfs for VFAT/FAT32 access In-reply-to: <199805140039.JAA00329@pudding.carrot.kansai.oki.co.jp> To: Hideki Yamamoto Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: Organization: Not an organization MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_=XFMail.1.2.p0.FreeBSD:980517142428:233=_" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format --_=XFMail.1.2.p0.FreeBSD:980517142428:233=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 14-May-98 Hideki Yamamoto wrote about "Re: mount_msdos and msdosfs for VFAT/FAT32 access": >>cannot make world because it fails building the dependencies: you are looking > > Thank you for your patch. You're welcome. BTW, I don't know if *that* is the Right Way (Tm). Please review. > I will fix my web page next time (in one or two weeks). As you are going to do that, please consider including the attached patch: this one will merge all -current (17th May, 00:30 UTC) changes in, plus it fixes a warning about a missing */ at line 252 of vfsops and (TADAAAAA ;-) it fixes mount -p problem and my export problems. Please check it against your (u)mount problem. Now I got: ugo@pegasus:~/temp [0]> mount -p [...some stuff deleted...] /dev/sd0s1 /mnt/windows95 msdos rw 0 0 /dev/sd0s5 /mnt/limbo msdos rw 0 0 /dev/wd0s1 /mnt/xchange_1 msdos rw 0 0 /dev/wd2s1 /mnt/xchange_2 msdos rw 0 0 [...some stuff deleted...] And no more "bad export line for blah blah" when I mount something else. I found we were missing a "sbp->f_type = MOUNT_MSDOS;" that is present in -stable sources at the beginning of msdosfs_statfs. Somehow -current go there with that field initialized to the right value. Someone with some knowledge of msdosfs should explain why. ># I started testing new -current source. It does not seem to be ># stable. I'm going to test those too. Please note that the patch includes them. Which kind of instability are you making reference to? I could try to reproduce it here. > Hideki Yamamoto (hyama@acm.org) Bye, UP --_=XFMail.1.2.p0.FreeBSD:980517142428:233=_ Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="msdosfs-980517.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Description: msdosfs-980517.diff Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=msdosfs-980517.diff; SizeOnDisk=5301 ZGlmZiAtdXJOIG1zZG9zZnMtMjJYLTk4MDUwNS9tc2Rvc2ZzX2xvb2t1cC5jIG1zZG9zZnMvbXNk b3Nmc19sb29rdXAuYwotLS0gbXNkb3Nmcy0yMlgtOTgwNTA1L21zZG9zZnNfbG9va3VwLmMJVHVl IE1heSAgNSAwMjo0ODo1MiAxOTk4CisrKyBtc2Rvc2ZzL21zZG9zZnNfbG9va3VwLmMJU3VuIE1h eSAxNyAxMDo1NzoxMiAxOTk4CkBAIC0xLDQgKzEsNCBAQAotLyoJJElkOiBtc2Rvc2ZzX2xvb2t1 cC5jLHYgMS4yMiAxOTk4LzAyLzI2IDA2OjQ1OjQ0IG1zbWl0aCBFeHAgJCAqLworLyoJJElkOiBt c2Rvc2ZzX2xvb2t1cC5jLHYgMS4yMyAxOTk4LzA1LzA5IDA5OjM2OjM4IGR0IEV4cCAkICovCiAv KgkkTmV0QlNEOiBtc2Rvc2ZzX2xvb2t1cC5jLHYgMS4zNyAxOTk3LzExLzE3IDE1OjM2OjU0IHdz IEV4cCAkCSovCiAKIC8qLQpAQCAtMzYwLDcgKzM2MCw3IEBACiAJCQkJICogdGhpcyBsb29rdXAu 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firewall.scitec.com.au (firewall-user@fgate.scitec.com.au [203.17.180.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA29291 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 17:54:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john.saunders@scitec.com.au) Received: by firewall.scitec.com.au; id KAA22232; Mon, 18 May 1998 10:54:46 +1000 (EST) Received: from mailhub.scitec.com.au(203.17.180.131) by fgate.scitec.com.au via smap (3.2) id xma022227; Mon, 18 May 98 10:54:38 +1000 Received: from hydra.scitec.com.au (hydra.scitec.com.au [203.17.182.101]) by mailhub.scitec.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA23220; Mon, 18 May 1998 10:54:29 +1000 Received: from saruman (saruman.scitec.com.au) by hydra.scitec.com.au with SMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA167152865; Mon, 18 May 1998 10:54:25 +1000 Message-Id: <005901bd81f7$83194ae0$6cb611cb@saruman.scitec.com.au> From: "John Saunders" To: , Subject: Re: arpresolve message Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 10:54:24 +1000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Arthur W. Neilson III wrote: >OK I got my DHCP client working with the Roadrunner cable modem >service here in Honolulu, and got a login client written in perl5 >working fine. I am however now getting a message from arpresolve >regarding my loopback. I get the following message repeatedly: > >arpresolve: can't allocate llinfo for 127.0.0.1 > >what is llinfo and what does this message mean?? I got that message when changing a server from NetBSD to FreeBSD last week. It turned out that some static route commands I brought across from NetBSD didn't work on FreeBSD. My situation was a PPP link to a host I will call access-server. My end of the PPP link was assigned an IP address I will call news-dialin. This link provides a news feed and is not the default route for the host, hence the static route. I then had a static route... route add -host news.other.domain news-dialin.other.domain I found I had to change it to... route add -host news.other.domain access-server.other.domain before it would work. So it looks like you can only add gateway routes that reference the "other side" of a point to point link rather than the "local side". This may or may not help you, it depends on your situation. Cheers. -- . +-------------------------------------------------------+ ,--_|\ | John Saunders mailto:John.Saunders@scitec.com.au | / Oz \ | SCITEC LIMITED Phone +61294289563 Fax +61294289933 | \_,--\_/ | "By the time you make ends meet, they move the ends." | v +-------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 17 20:04:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA17589 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 17 May 1998 20:04:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from super-g.inch.com (super-g.com [207.240.140.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA17552 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 20:04:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spork@super-g.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by super-g.inch.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA19858; Sun, 17 May 1998 23:03:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 23:03:22 -0400 (EDT) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: "Justin T. Gibbs" cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hello.....? Whomever broke -stable, are you going to fix it? In-Reply-To: <199805172112.PAA09128@pluto.plutotech.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk It's a bit off subject, but are you (Justin) now taking on the dpt driver? I haven't seen any mail from Simon in a while, and we're very seriously moving to slapping this stuff into all of our production machines. We've been testing one of the low-end boards with no problems, but I'm a little worried about making the investment in 10 of the big expensive boards right now... Does anyone have any opinions on the DPT controllers and where FBSD support is leaning as far as hardware raid solutions? Thanks, Charles Charles Sprickman spork@super-g.com ---- On Sun, 17 May 1998, Justin T. Gibbs wrote: > > > >Something is still broken ? > >The same configuration compiles ok under 2.2.6-RELEASE: > > First off, you must recompile config and re-config your kernel. > > You will also need to either add eisa0 to your config file or sync > to dpt_eisa.c from -stable again. > > -- > Justin > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 17 20:35:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA21440 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 17 May 1998 20:35:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pluto.plutotech.com (mail.plutotech.com [206.168.67.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA21410 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 20:35:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gibbs@plutotech.com) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by pluto.plutotech.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA22590; Sun, 17 May 1998 21:35:22 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199805180335.VAA22590@pluto.plutotech.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: spork cc: "Justin T. Gibbs" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Hello.....? Whomever broke -stable, are you going to fix it? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 17 May 1998 23:03:22 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 21:31:10 -0600 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk >It's a bit off subject, but are you (Justin) now taking on the dpt driver? Nope. -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 17 20:36:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA21620 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 17 May 1998 20:36:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from black.carrot.kansai.oki.co.jp (okigate.oki.co.jp [202.226.91.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA21511 for ; Sun, 17 May 1998 20:35:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hyama@black.carrot.kansai.oki.co.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost.pumpkin.kansai.oki.co.jp [127.0.0.1]) by black.carrot.kansai.oki.co.jp (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA01164; Mon, 18 May 1998 12:34:33 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from hyama@black.carrot.kansai.oki.co.jp) Message-Id: <199805180334.MAA01164@black.carrot.kansai.oki.co.jp> To: paterno@dsi.unifi.it Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mount_msdos and msdosfs for VFAT/FAT32 access From: Hideki Yamamoto In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 17 May 1998 14:24:28 +0200 (MET DST)" References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.28.1 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 12:34:31 +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi, >>>>> On Sun, 17 May 1998 14:24:28 +0200 (MET DST), Ugo Paternostro said: > As you are going to do that, please consider including the attached patch: this > one will merge all -current (17th May, 00:30 UTC) changes in, plus it fixes a > warning about a missing */ at line 252 of vfsops and (TADAAAAA ;-) it fixes > mount -p problem and my export problems. Please check it against your (u)mount > problem. Thank you for your patches, again! Before reading your mail, I myself resolved "mount -p problem" and others, and uploaded them to my web page last night (http://members.aol.com/hyama99/). Some part of your patches to -current(17th May) is different from mine. I ignored the -current changes of msdosfs_vnops.c between 1.67 and 1.68, because my test of 1.68 patched for -stable reboot my system when writing DOS file. I will test your patch to msdosfs_vnops.c tonight. I will merge the other your patches into mine, test them, and upload them as a new version soon. > And no more "bad export line for blah blah" when I mount something else. I found > we were missing a "sbp->f_type = MOUNT_MSDOS;" that is present in -stable > sources at the beginning of msdosfs_statfs. Somehow -current go there with that > field initialized to the right value. Someone with some knowledge of msdosfs > should explain why. I cannot answer your quetion. :-< Regards. ----------------------------------- Hideki Yamamoto (hyama@acm.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 18 00:00:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA20929 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 18 May 1998 00:00:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from colin.muc.de (root@colin.muc.de [193.174.4.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA20845 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 00:00:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lutz@muc.de) Received: from tavari.muc.de ([193.174.4.22]) by colin.muc.de with SMTP id <140575-2>; Mon, 18 May 1998 07:47:14 +0200 Received: from muc.de (abraxas [192.168.42.5]) by tavari.muc.de (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA05209; Mon, 18 May 1998 07:46:55 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <355FCB4E.24D58FC9@muc.de> Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 07:46:54 +0200 From: Lutz Albers X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Somers CC: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.6 ppp breaks compatability with T-Online ppp References: <199805180003.BAA17758@awfulhak.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Brian Somers wrote: > > I just upgraded my server from 2.2.5 to 2.2.6. After this upgrade ppp > > (user level) is no longer able to connect to the german ISP T-Online. > > The 2.2.5 version worked just fine (I have recompiled the version from > > the 2.2.5 sources and it works again). Here is the output from ppp.log: > [.....] > > If someone wants more info's, then just contact. > > I think we need to see the LCP and IPCP logs too. This looks like > failed negotiation :-/ No problem, here it comes: May 18 07:43:06 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Command: default: set timeout 70 May 18 07:43:06 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Command: default: set server 3000 May 18 07:43:06 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Command: default: set dial ABORT NO\sB-CHANNEL ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\sCARRIER ABORT NO\sDIALTONE TIMEOUT 10 "" AT&B54\\P3 OK-AT-OK \dATD\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT May 18 07:43:06 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Phase: Using interface: tun0 May 18 07:43:06 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Command: tol: set phone 0191011 May 18 07:43:06 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Command: tol: deny chap May 18 07:43:06 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Command: tol: accept pap May 18 07:43:06 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Command: tol: set authname ***** May 18 07:43:06 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Command: tol: set authkey ******** May 18 07:43:06 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Command: tol: set ifaddr 0 0 May 18 07:43:06 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Command: tol: set afilter 0 deny icmp May 18 07:43:06 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Command: tol: set afilter 1 deny udp src eq 53 May 18 07:43:06 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Command: tol: set afilter 2 deny udp dst eq 53 May 18 07:43:06 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Command: tol: set afilter 3 deny udp src eq 520 May 18 07:43:06 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Command: tol: set afilter 4 deny udp dst eq 520 May 18 07:43:06 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Command: tol: set afilter 5 permit 0/0 0/0 May 18 07:43:06 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Command: tol: set dfilter 0 deny icmp May 18 07:43:06 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Command: tol: set dfilter 1 deny tcp src eq 25 May 18 07:43:06 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Command: tol: set dfilter 2 deny tcp dst eq 25 May 18 07:43:07 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Command: tol: set dfilter 3 permit 0/0 0/0 May 18 07:43:07 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Phase: PPP Started. May 18 07:43:08 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Command: dial May 18 07:43:09 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Phase: Connected! May 18 07:43:09 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Connect: AT&B54\P3^M^M May 18 07:43:09 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Connect: OK May 18 07:43:11 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Phase: Phone: 0191011 May 18 07:43:11 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Connect: ^M May 18 07:43:13 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Connect: ATD0191011^M^M May 18 07:43:13 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Connect: CONNECT May 18 07:43:13 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: State change Initial --> Closed May 18 07:43:13 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: State change Closed --> Stopped May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: LcpSendConfigReq May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x6e3a18f9 May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: State change Stopped --> Req-Sent May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: Received Configure Request (1) state = Req-Sent (6) May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: MRU[4] 1524 May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: MULTIED[9] 0300c07b6bee4f May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: SendConfigRej(Req-Sent) May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: MULTIED[9] 0300c07b6bee4f May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: Received Configure Reject (1) state = Req-Sent (6) May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: RecvConfigRej. May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: ACFCOMP[2] May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: PROTOCOMP[2] May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: LcpSendConfigReq May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: ACCMAP[6] 0x00000000 May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: MRU[4] 1500 May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: MAGICNUM[6] 0x6e3a18f9 May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: Received Configure Request (2) state = Req-Sent (6) May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: MRU[4] 1524 May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: SendConfigAck(Req-Sent) May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: MRU[4] 1524 May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: AUTHPROTO[4] 0xc023 (PAP) May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: State change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: Received Configure Ack (2) state = Ack-Sent (8) May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: State change Ack-Sent --> Opened May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: LcpLayerUp May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Phase: NewPhase: Authenticate May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Phase: his = PAP, mine = none May 18 07:43:14 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Phase: PAP: 00011761267008993940363#1 May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Phase: PapInput: ACK May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Phase: Received PAP_ACK () May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Phase: NewPhase: Network May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: State change Initial --> Closed May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: IPCP Up event!! May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: IpcpSendConfigReq May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compres May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: State change Closed --> Req-Sent May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: Received Configure Request (1) state = Req-Sent (6) May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 193.158.131.193 May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: SendConfigNak(Req-Sent) May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: Received Configure Nak (1) state = Req-Sent (6) May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 193.159.108.3 May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: IPADDR[6] changing address: 0.0.0.0 --> 193.159.108.3 May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: IpcpSendConfigReq May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 193.159.108.3 May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compres May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: Received Protocol Reject (3) state = Opened (9) May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: -- Protocol (80fd) was rejected. May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: Received Configure Request (1) state = Req-Sent (6) May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 193.158.131.193 May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: SendConfigNak(Req-Sent) May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: Received Configure Ack (2) state = Req-Sent (6) May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: State change Req-Sent --> Ack-Rcvd May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: Received Configure Request (1) state = Ack-Rcvd (7) May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 193.158.131.193 May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: SendConfigNak(Ack-Rcvd) May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: Received Configure Request (1) state = Ack-Rcvd (7) May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 193.158.131.193 May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: SendConfigNak(Ack-Rcvd) May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: Received Configure Request (1) state = Ack-Rcvd (7) May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 193.158.131.193 May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: SendConfigNak(Ack-Rcvd) May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: Received Configure Request (1) state = Ack-Rcvd (7) May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 193.158.131.193 May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: SendConfigNak(Ack-Rcvd) May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: Received Configure Request (1) state = Ack-Rcvd (7) May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 193.158.131.193 May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: SendConfigNak(Ack-Rcvd) May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: Received Configure Request (1) state = Ack-Rcvd (7) May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: COMPPROTO[6] 16 VJ slots with slot compression May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 193.158.131.193 May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: SendConfigNak(Ack-Rcvd) May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: Received Terminate Request (2) state = Ack-Rcvd (7) May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: IpcpSendTerminateAck May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: State change Ack-Rcvd --> Req-Sent May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: Received Terminate Request (3) state = Req-Sent (6) May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: IPCP: IpcpSendTerminateAck May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: Received Terminate Request (1) state = Opened (9) May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: LcpLayerDown May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: LcpSendTerminateAck. May 18 07:43:15 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: State change Opened --> Stopping May 18 07:43:16 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Phase: Disconnected! May 18 07:43:16 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: State change Stopping --> Starting May 18 07:43:16 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: LCP: LcpLayerFinish May 18 07:43:16 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Phase: Modem: Connect time: 7 secs: 427 octets in, 600 octets out May 18 07:43:16 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Phase: total 146 bytes/sec May 18 07:43:16 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Phase: NewPhase: Dead May 18 07:43:25 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Command: qiot May 18 07:43:27 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Command: quit May 18 07:43:28 morranon ppp.2.2.6[5188]: Phase: PPP Terminated (normal). -- Lutz Albers, lutz@muc.de Do not take life too seriously, you will never get out of it alive. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 18 05:02:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA08574 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 18 May 1998 05:02:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rige.physik.fu-berlin.de (rige.physik.fu-berlin.de [160.45.33.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA08269 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 05:01:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thimm@rige.physik.fu-berlin.de) Received: (from thimm@localhost) by rige.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA00520; Mon, 18 May 1998 14:01:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from thimm) Message-ID: <19980518140133.A408@physik.fu-berlin.de> Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 14:01:33 +0200 From: Axel Thimm To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Erased partition table Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hello, yesterday (at least) the partition table of my wd2 got erased. On wd2 there was a single (DOS compatible) FreeBSD slice with partitions wds1a to wds1f. My question is: Would sysinstall recreate the same partition w/o touching the slice's contents, so that I could see, if the slice is still accessible? On the grounds of the failure, I just remade the world and later Windows NT asked me to put its signature on it. Perhaps this was the cause. Thanks for any and every help. Regards, Axel. -- Axel Thimm Axel.Thimm@physik.fu-berlin.de Axel.Thimm@ifh.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 18 07:19:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA15965 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 18 May 1998 07:19:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kaori.communique.net (kaori.communique.net [204.27.67.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA15955 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 07:19:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rzig@verio.net) Received: by kaori.communique.net with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Mon, 18 May 1998 09:18:12 -0500 Message-ID: From: Raul Zighelboim To: "'spork'" , "Justin T. Gibbs" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Hello.....? Whomever broke -stable, are you going to fix it? Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 09:18:08 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I can say that 2.2.6-Release is not stable under heavy load with the dpt drive, and that -stable as off last week was not working with the dpt drive. I cvsup to stable last night, and I will continue testing on the card (heavy usenet feed) I'll let you know at the end of the week if I crahsed again. ================================================== Raul Zighelboim rzig@verio.net > -----Original Message----- > From: spork [SMTP:spork@super-g.com] > Sent: Sunday, May 17, 1998 10:03 PM > To: Justin T. Gibbs > Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Hello.....? Whomever broke -stable, are you going to > fix it? > > It's a bit off subject, but are you (Justin) now taking on the dpt > driver? > I haven't seen any mail from Simon in a while, and we're very > seriously > moving to slapping this stuff into all of our production machines. > > We've been testing one of the low-end boards with no problems, but I'm > a > little worried about making the investment in 10 of the big expensive > boards right now... > > Does anyone have any opinions on the DPT controllers and where FBSD > support is leaning as far as hardware raid solutions? > > Thanks, > > Charles > > Charles Sprickman > spork@super-g.com > ---- > > On Sun, 17 May 1998, Justin T. Gibbs wrote: > > > > > > >Something is still broken ? > > >The same configuration compiles ok under 2.2.6-RELEASE: > > > > First off, you must recompile config and re-config your kernel. > > > > You will also need to either add eisa0 to your config file or sync > > to dpt_eisa.c from -stable again. > > > > -- > > Justin > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 18 10:32:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA20305 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 18 May 1998 10:32:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alushta.NL.net (alushta.NL.net [193.78.240.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA20251 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 10:32:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from benst@nemesis.stuyts.nl) Received: from stuyts by alushta.NL.net with UUCP id <23508-32656>; Mon, 18 May 1998 19:32:02 +0200 Received: from nemesis.stuyts.nl (uucp@localhost) by terminus.stuyts.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id TAA29320 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 May 1998 19:15:33 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from benst@nemesis.stuyts.nl) Received: from giskard.stuyts.nl (giskard.stuyts.nl [193.78.231.1]) by nemesis.stuyts.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07829 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 19:10:08 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from benst) Received: (from benst@localhost) by giskard.stuyts.nl (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA13137 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 May 1998 19:10:07 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199805181710.TAA13137@giskard.stuyts.nl> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 2.0b6) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Ben Stuyts Date: Mon, 18 May 98 19:10:05 +0200 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: isa.o: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' in -stable kernel Reply-To: ben@stuyts.nl Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Trying to compile a kernel from today's sources gives the following error: loading kernel isa.o: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment cvs status isa.c: =================================================================== File: isa.c Status: Up-to-date Working revision: 1.74.2.6 Tue May 12 12:32:42 1998 Repository revision: 1.74.2.6 /home2/ncvs/src/sys/i386/isa/isa.c,v Sticky Tag: RELENG_2_2 (branch: 1.74.2) Sticky Date: (none) Sticky Options: (none) Ben To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 18 11:15:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01162 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 18 May 1998 11:15:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aldan.ziplink.net (mi@kot.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.29.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01104 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 11:15:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@rtfm.ziplink.net) Received: from rtfm.ziplink.net (rtfm [199.232.255.52]) by aldan.ziplink.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA11048 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 18:15:04 GMT (envelope-from mi@rtfm.ziplink.net) Received: (from mi@localhost) by rtfm.ziplink.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) id OAA21666 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 18 May 1998 14:15:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Mikhail Teterin Message-Id: <199805181815.OAA21666@rtfm.ziplink.net> Subject: leakage in ep-driver? To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 14:15:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Face: %UW#n0|w>ydeGt/b@1-.UFP=K^~-:0f#O:D7w hJ5G_<5143Bb3kOIs9XpX+"V+~$adGP:J|SLieM31VIhqXeLBli" Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA07724 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 18 May 1998 16:26:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07400 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 16:24:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gibbs@narnia.plutotech.com) Received: (from gibbs@localhost) by narnia.plutotech.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) id RAA06646; Mon, 18 May 1998 17:20:40 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 17:20:40 -0600 (MDT) From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Message-Id: <199805182320.RAA06646@narnia.plutotech.com> To: ben@stuyts.nl cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: isa.o: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' in -stable kernel Newsgroups: pluto.freebsd.stable In-Reply-To: <199805181710.TAA13137@giskard.stuyts.nl> User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-971204 (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.0-CURRENT (i386)) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In article <199805181710.TAA13137@giskard.stuyts.nl> you wrote: > Trying to compile a kernel from today's sources gives the following error: > > loading kernel > isa.o: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment Rebuild config, reconfig your kernel, and start reading this list so you don't ask a question that already been answered. 8-) -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 18 16:54:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13563 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 18 May 1998 16:54:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from adsight.com (adsight.com [207.86.2.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13464 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 16:53:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from webadmin@adsight.com) Received: from localhost (webadmin@localhost) by adsight.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA10617; Mon, 18 May 1998 19:51:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 19:51:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Sam Magee To: ben@stuyts.nl cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: isa.o: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' in -stable kernel In-Reply-To: <199805181710.TAA13137@giskard.stuyts.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Mon, 18 May 1998, Ben Stuyts wrote: > Trying to compile a kernel from today's sources gives the following error: > > loading kernel > isa.o: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment > > cvs status isa.c: > =================================================================== > File: isa.c Status: Up-to-date > > Working revision: 1.74.2.6 Tue May 12 12:32:42 1998 > Repository revision: 1.74.2.6 /home2/ncvs/src/sys/i386/isa/isa.c,v > Sticky Tag: RELENG_2_2 (branch: 1.74.2) > Sticky Date: (none) > Sticky Options: (none) > > Ben > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > I found in the archives: cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/config make make install then re-make your kernel works fine. Sam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 18 17:06:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16247 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 18 May 1998 17:06:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from couatl.uchicago.edu (couatl.uchicago.edu [128.135.21.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA15877 for ; Mon, 18 May 1998 17:04:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sfarrell@couatl.uchicago.edu) Received: (from sfarrell@localhost) by couatl.uchicago.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA09137; Mon, 18 May 1998 19:02:39 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from sfarrell) To: ben@stuyts.nl Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: isa.o: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' in -stable kernel References: <199805181710.TAA13137@giskard.stuyts.nl> From: sfarrell+lists@farrell.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 18 May 1998 19:02:39 -0500 In-Reply-To: Ben Stuyts's message of "Mon, 18 May 98 19:10:05 +0200" Message-ID: <87u36njffk.fsf@couatl.uchicago.edu> Lines: 16 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Ben Stuyts writes: > Trying to compile a kernel from today's sources gives the following error: > > loading kernel > isa.o: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment The line is "recompile config and reconfig your kernel"... (alternatively the references to isa_devtab_cam are pretty obvious in isa.c and can be removed by hand) -- Steve Farrell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 19 06:46:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA16797 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 19 May 1998 06:46:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA16771 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 06:46:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dag-erli@ifi.uio.no) Received: from hrotti.ifi.uio.no (2602@hrotti.ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.15]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with ESMTP id PAA17179; Tue, 19 May 1998 15:46:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from dag-erli@localhost) by hrotti.ifi.uio.no ; Tue, 19 May 1998 15:46:28 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Mikhail Teterin Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: leakage in ep-driver? References: <199805181815.OAA21666@rtfm.ziplink.net> Organization: University of Oslo, Department of Informatics X-url: http://www.stud.ifi.uio.no/~dag-erli/ X-Stop-Spam: http://www.cauce.org From: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling Coidan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= ) Date: 19 May 1998 15:46:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: Mikhail Teterin's message of "Mon, 18 May 1998 14:15:02 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 29 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Mikhail Teterin writes: > The symptoms are: > > * pinging local net machines from the gateway machine says: > "No buffer space available" > * pinging the gateway machine from local net machines says: > "Host is down" > * local net machines continue to ping each other just fine > * all lights on the hub are fine > * the other (de0) interface is functional, machine is > accessible from the Internet, continues to receive mail, > etc. > > To heal the situation I had to (no rebooting, no): > > ifconfig ep0 down > ifconfig ep0 up > > Any ideas? Thanks! You're out of mbufs. Check 'netstat -m'. Add the following to your kernel configuration: options "NMBCLUSTERS=8192" The default is 512 + 16 * MAXUSERS. 8192 ought to be enough for anyone ;) -- Noone else has a .sig like this one. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 19 08:08:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA03720 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 19 May 1998 08:08:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aldan.ziplink.net (mi@kot.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.29.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA03707 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 08:08:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@rtfm.ziplink.net) Received: from rtfm.ziplink.net (rtfm [199.232.255.52]) by aldan.ziplink.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA16936; Tue, 19 May 1998 15:08:34 GMT (envelope-from mi@rtfm.ziplink.net) Received: (from mi@localhost) by rtfm.ziplink.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) id LAA23233; Tue, 19 May 1998 11:08:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Mikhail Teterin Message-Id: <199805191508.LAA23233@rtfm.ziplink.net> Subject: Re: leakage in ep-driver? In-Reply-To: from "Dag-Erling Coidan [Sm_rgrav]" at "May 19, 98 03:46:27 pm" To: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling Coidan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?=) Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 11:08:33 -0400 (EDT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: %UW#n0|w>ydeGt/b@1-.UFP=K^~-:0f#O:D7w hJ5G_<5143Bb3kOIs9XpX+"V+~$adGP:J|SLieM31VIhqXeLBli" To heal the situation I had to (no rebooting, no): => => ifconfig ep0 down => ifconfig ep0 up => => Any ideas? Thanks! = =You're out of mbufs. Check 'netstat -m'. Add the following to your =kernel configuration: = =options "NMBCLUSTERS=8192" = =The default is 512 + 16 * MAXUSERS. 8192 ought to be enough for anyone ;) Are those allocated per interface? If not, why is my other interface (de0) continue to function? I remember running out once on another machine (FreeBSD 2.2 snapshot, circa 1996). There was an entry about it in system log, and the machine recovered shortly after. Not this time... -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 19 08:29:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA06680 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 19 May 1998 08:29:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA06654 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 08:29:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dag-erli@ifi.uio.no) Received: from hrotti.ifi.uio.no (2602@hrotti.ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.15]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with ESMTP id RAA00243; Tue, 19 May 1998 17:29:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from dag-erli@localhost) by hrotti.ifi.uio.no ; Tue, 19 May 1998 17:29:26 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Mikhail Teterin Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: leakage in ep-driver? References: <199805191508.LAA23233@rtfm.ziplink.net> Organization: University of Oslo, Department of Informatics X-url: http://www.stud.ifi.uio.no/~dag-erli/ X-Stop-Spam: http://www.cauce.org From: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling Coidan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= ) Date: 19 May 1998 17:29:26 +0200 In-Reply-To: Mikhail Teterin's message of "Tue, 19 May 1998 11:08:33 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 15 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Mikhail Teterin writes: > Dag-Erling Coidan [Sm_rgrav] once stated: > > You're out of mbufs. > Are those allocated per interface? If not, why is my other interface (de0) No, they're shared AFAIK. > continue to function? I remember running out once on another machine (FreeBSD > 2.2 snapshot, circa 1996). There was an entry about it in system log, and > the machine recovered shortly after. Not this time... Probably because the ep driver doesn't drain properly. -- Noone else has a .sig like this one. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 19 12:41:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA29343 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 19 May 1998 12:41:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mixer.visi.com (root@mixer.visi.com [209.98.98.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29314; Tue, 19 May 1998 12:41:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nordquis@visi.com) Received: from thumper.visi.com (nordquis@thumper.visi.com [209.98.98.3]) by mixer.visi.com (8.8.8/8.7.5) with ESMTP id OAA00658; Tue, 19 May 1998 14:41:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from nordquis@localhost) by thumper.visi.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) id OAA26532; Tue, 19 May 1998 14:41:30 -0500 (CDT) Posted-Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 14:41:30 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199805191941.OAA26532@thumper.visi.com> Subject: PnP Questions (under 2.2.5) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 14:41:30 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Brent J. Nordquist" Reply-to: "Brent J. Nordquist" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Thanks so much to Sujal for providing the PnP code, and Paul Traina for pointing out where it can be found on the 2.2.5 media! I have a new machine with some PnP devices, and I'm in the process of installing it with 2.2.5. (One of the PnP devices is my modem, and that's how I'm going to get to -stable, so I have to get 2.2.5 bootstrapped for PnP.) I installed the patch in the xperimnt directory on 2.2.5 disc 3; the patch installed cleanly. I also installed pnpinfo and it worked fine; got all the parameters I needed. I added "controller pnp0" to the config. file and rebuilt the kernel. However, a boot -v doesn't show any lines with "pnp0" in it! So I have some questions: (1) Should it matter where in the kernel config. file the "controller pnp0" line is? (Right now it's almost at the bottom.) (2) Should boot -v print something with "pnp0" even if I got the hard-coded settings wrong somehow, and it couldn't find any devices? If it should be printing something, what can I look for next that I might have done wrong? (3) I read in the mailing lists about typing "pnp" after boot -c; will this help me at all? (Or will it even work with this version of the PnP software?) I'd be happy to send my config. file and/or my dmesg output, but I don't think you'll find anything useful in them; config. file was just a one line change (adding "controller pnp0") and dmesg output has no pnp0 in it. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer! -- Brent J. Nordquist / bjn@visi.com W: +1 612 905-7806 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 19 13:31:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07124 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 19 May 1998 13:31:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cesit1.unifi.it (cesit1.unifi.it [150.217.1.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07064 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 13:30:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ugo@dsi.UNIFI.IT) Received: from aguirre.dsi.unifi.it by CESIT1.UNIFI.IT (PMDF V5.1-10 #23168) with SMTP id <01IX8FJHVJ7K0002ED@CESIT1.UNIFI.IT> for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 19 May 1998 22:30:55 MET Received: from dsi.unifi.it (com7.unifi.it) by aguirre.dsi.unifi.it (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08240; Sun, 17 May 1998 18:23:46 +0200 Received: from pegasus.home.net (pegasus.home.net [192.168.1.3]) by dsi.unifi.it (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07146; Tue, 19 May 1998 16:01:51 +0200 (MET DST envelope-from ugo) Received: (from ugo@localhost) by pegasus.home.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id QAA00316; Tue, 19 May 1998 16:01:51 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 16:01:51 +0200 (MET DST) From: Ugo Paternostro Subject: Re: mount_msdos and msdosfs for VFAT/FAT32 access In-reply-to: <199805180334.MAA01164@black.carrot.kansai.oki.co.jp> To: Hideki Yamamoto Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: Organization: Not an organization MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On 18-May-98 Hideki Yamamoto wrote about "Re: mount_msdos and msdosfs for VFAT/FAT32 access": > Before reading your mail, I myself resolved "mount -p problem" and > others, and uploaded them to my web page last night > (http://members.aol.com/hyama99/). Great! I will get that ASAP. > Some part of your patches to -current(17th May) is different from mine. > I ignored the -current changes of msdosfs_vnops.c between 1.67 and 1.68, > because my test of 1.68 patched for -stable reboot my system when > writing DOS file. I will test your patch to msdosfs_vnops.c tonight. Don't! I posted them without testing (ehm...), and later I discovered that I'm getting kernel panics (msdosfs_lock: locking against myself). Of course, you did the right thing: I blindly applied all -current patches, but shouldn't apply the 1.67 -> 1.68 patch as that one requires patches to other kernel files. > I will merge the other your patches into mine, test them, and > upload them as a new version soon. Ok, fine. I'm running currently with tonight (19th May 00:30 UTC) -current sources, but the 1.68 locking changes, and it seems to work. I'm updating the msdosfs sources on a daily basis, please let me know if you would like to receive more patches as -current goes on. I will not send today ones because they are relative to your v0.3 sources, and that isn't the last version anymore. One thing that I don't like of -current version is that it will not generate a long name on a FAT16 slice unless it finds a long name there. I had to reboot under Windows 95, put a dummy file with long name on that slice and then reboot under FreeBSD to make it write long names. I don't like this feature, but I know it was added recently for pre-Windows 95 compatibility. It would be great to have a mount option to force long names. > Hideki Yamamoto (hyama@acm.org) Bye, UP To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 19 13:50:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10484 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 19 May 1998 13:50:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cesit1.unifi.it (cesit1.unifi.it [150.217.1.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA10466 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 13:50:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ugo@dsi.UNIFI.IT) Received: from aguirre.dsi.unifi.it by CESIT1.UNIFI.IT (PMDF V5.1-10 #23168) with SMTP id <01IX8G98KXX00002ED@CESIT1.UNIFI.IT> for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 19 May 1998 22:50:53 MET Received: from dsi.unifi.it (com7.unifi.it) by aguirre.dsi.unifi.it (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08297; Sun, 17 May 1998 18:44:16 +0200 Received: from pegasus.home.net (pegasus.home.net [192.168.1.3]) by dsi.unifi.it (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA08909; Tue, 19 May 1998 22:49:03 +0200 (MET DST envelope-from ugo) Received: (from ugo@localhost) by pegasus.home.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id WAA00382; Tue, 19 May 1998 22:49:03 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 22:49:03 +0200 (MET DST) From: Ugo Paternostro Subject: Re: mount_msdos and msdosfs for VFAT/FAT32 access In-reply-to: To: Ugo Paternostro Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Hideki Yamamoto Message-id: Organization: Not an organization MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On 19-May-98 Ugo Paternostro wrote about "Re: mount_msdos and msdosfs for VFAT/FAT32 access": > On 18-May-98 Hideki Yamamoto wrote about "Re: mount_msdos and msdosfs for > VFAT/FAT32 access": >> others, and uploaded them to my web page last night >> (http://members.aol.com/hyama99/). > > Great! I will get that ASAP. Done. Testing... > it was added recently for pre-Windows 95 compatibility. It would be great to > have a mount option to force long names. Sorry, it seems that I just have to RTFM... :-) Bye, UP To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 19 14:09:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14562 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 19 May 1998 14:09:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sawmill.grauel.com (sawmill.grauel.com [199.233.104.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14543 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 14:09:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rjk@sawmill.grauel.com) Received: (from rjk@localhost) by sawmill.grauel.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id QAA26487; Tue, 19 May 1998 16:12:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard J. Kuhns" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13665.62936.648794.309002@sawmill.grauel.com> Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 16:12:56 -0500 (EST) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: panic: root dev has no bdevsw X-Mailer: VM 6.47 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk If I missed a "heads up" in -stable, I'm sorry, but I can't find anything relating to this in the mailing list archives for either -questions or -stable, at least not by searching for `bdevsw'. I just (about 9:30AM EST) cvsuped the latest -stable bits and made world; no problems at all. I then compiled and installed a new kernel which panics immediatley after the device probes (where it should say `changing root device to...') with `panic: root dev has no bdevsw'. I also just tried updating the boot blocks. The files in /usr/mdec were rebuilt today and I did a `disklabel -B sd0'; it made no difference. I'll include the boot messages for the previous kernel (which I've saved) below; if any other info in needed, I'll be happy to supply it. My root device is listed in /etc/fstab as /dev/sd0s1a. Help? ======== Copyright (c) 1992-1998 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE #0: Fri Mar 27 09:27:22 EST 1998 rjk@adler.grauel.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/ADLER CPU: Pentium (132.63-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52b Stepping=11 Features=0x1bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) avail memory = 31043584 (30316K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0 rev 2 on pci0:0:0 chip1 rev 2 on pci0:7:0 chip2 rev 2 on pci0:7:1 vga0 rev 84 int a irq 10 on pci0:11:0 ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:12:0 ahc0: aic7880 Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle ahc0: target 0 Tagged Queuing Device (ahc0:0:0): "SEAGATE ST32550N 0021" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 2047MB (4194058 512 byte sectors) (ahc0:2:0): "NEC CD-ROM DRIVE:222 3.1k" type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0(ahc0:2:0): CD-ROM can't get the size (ahc0:6:0): "ARCHIVE ANCDA 2750 28077 -002" type 1 removable SCSI 2 st0(ahc0:6:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x0, drive empty Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 at 0x280-0x29f irq 5 maddr 0xd8000 msize 16384 on isa ed0: address 00:00:c0:c6:92:d6, type SMC8216/SMC8216C (16 bit) sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface lpt1 not found at 0xffffffff fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in npx0 flags 0x1 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface changing root device to st0s1a Intel Pentium F00F detected, installing workaround -- Richard Kuhns rjk@grauel.com PO Box 6249 Tel: (765)477-6000 \ 100 Sawmill Road x319 Lafayette, IN 47903 (800)489-4891 / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 19 14:15:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16098 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 19 May 1998 14:15:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA15674; Tue, 19 May 1998 14:13:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id VAA10362; Tue, 19 May 1998 21:30:13 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199805191930.VAA10362@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: PnP Questions (under 2.2.5) To: bjn@visi.com Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 21:30:13 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199805191941.OAA26532@thumper.visi.com> from "Brent J. Nordquist" at May 19, 98 02:41:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Thanks so much to Sujal for providing the PnP code, and Paul Traina for ... I think you are better off using the newer PnP patches, heavily based on Sujal's code but with a reworked user- and device-driver interface. They are also on the 2.2.5 CD, under xperimnt/luigi something. (documentation and a manpage should be included). This is the code that got included in 2.2.6 cheers luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 19 14:44:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22709 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 19 May 1998 14:44:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fox.doc.ic.ac.uk (fox.doc.ic.ac.uk [146.169.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA22669 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 14:44:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from md@doc.ic.ac.uk) Received: from doc.ic.ac.uk [146.169.1.33] by fox.doc.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0ybuBU-0002qa-00; Tue, 19 May 1998 22:44:32 +0100 Message-ID: <3561FD3F.D1B21BF6@doc.ic.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 22:44:31 +0100 From: Mark Dawson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.32 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: post-crash fsck failing with DUP inodes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk The fileserver I run using 2.2.6-stable is crashing after 3-4 weeks. On rebooting there is typically a DUP inode problem with filesystems that have heavy NFS use. The filesystem inconsistency appears to be caused some time prior to the crash and is only shown up by a post-crash fsck. Has anyone else seen this problem or have ideas on where I should concentrate my efforts towards a solution? [I can provide more system configuration details on request.] Many thanks, Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 19 16:45:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA18815 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 19 May 1998 16:45:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18802 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 16:45:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01134; Tue, 19 May 1998 15:40:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805192240.PAA01134@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: "Richard J. Kuhns" cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: panic: root dev has no bdevsw In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 19 May 1998 16:12:56 CDT." <13665.62936.648794.309002@sawmill.grauel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 15:40:43 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > If I missed a "heads up" in -stable, I'm sorry, but I can't find anything > relating to this in the mailing list archives for either -questions or > -stable, at least not by searching for `bdevsw'. > > I just (about 9:30AM EST) cvsuped the latest -stable bits and made world; > no problems at all. I then compiled and installed a new kernel which > panics immediatley after the device probes (where it should say `changing > root device to...') with `panic: root dev has no bdevsw'. You left the 'sd' device out of your new kernel config, I suspect. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 19 18:13:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA04269 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:13:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from implode.root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04208 for ; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:13:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA29357; Tue, 19 May 1998 18:12:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805200112.SAA29357@implode.root.com> To: Mark Dawson cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: post-crash fsck failing with DUP inodes In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 19 May 1998 22:44:31 BST." <3561FD3F.D1B21BF6@doc.ic.ac.uk> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 18:12:54 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk >The fileserver I run using 2.2.6-stable is crashing after 3-4 weeks. On >rebooting there is typically a DUP inode problem with filesystems that >have heavy NFS use. The filesystem inconsistency appears to be caused >some time prior to the crash and is only shown up by a post-crash fsck. >Has anyone else seen this problem or have ideas on where I should >concentrate my efforts towards a solution? [I can provide more system >configuration details on request.] A bug that caused a problem like the above was just recently fixed in both -current and -stable. -DG David Greenman Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 20 01:06:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA13420 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 20 May 1998 01:06:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.20.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA13146 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 01:05:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from werner@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de) Received: (from werner@localhost) by btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (8.8.8/8.7.3) id KAA20106; Wed, 20 May 1998 10:05:28 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_=XFMail.1.2.p0.FreeBSD:980520100528:4064=_" In-Reply-To: <199805152226.QAA24093@narnia.plutotech.com> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 10:05:28 +0200 (MEST) Organization: university of bayreuth From: Werner Griessl To: "Justin T. Gibbs" Subject: Re: broken remote boot Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format --_=XFMail.1.2.p0.FreeBSD:980520100528:4064=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 15-May-98 Justin T. Gibbs wrote: > In article <199805151243.OAA16044@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> you wrote: >> I have a problem with diskless remote boot. >> I verified, that the changes preventing remote boot >> comes between May 6 and May 7 into the stable sources. >> With a client kernel from May 6 remote boot is ok, >> with a kernel from May 7 the boot fails with: >> >> "panic: cannot mount root" >> >> The kernel loads vio bootp, checks the devices up to >> "npx0: INT 16 interface", then comes the panic. >> normally followes the lines: >> NFS SWAP: ... >> NFS ROOT: ... >> >> Here are all files which change between May 6 and 7 : > > It was probably the changes I made to autoconf.c, but as > I don't perform any diskless booting it will be difficult > for me to determine what exactly is causing the problem. > Can you instrument i386/i386/autoconf.c and determin why > it fails to consider an NFS root? > >> Werner > > -- > Justin > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Werner Griessl Date: 20-May-98 Time: 10:01:26 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- Yesterday I found the buggy line in autoconf.c . Remote boot is working again for me. Attached is a unified diff for sys/i386/i386/autoconf.c . Werner --_=XFMail.1.2.p0.FreeBSD:980520100528:4064=_ Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="autoconf.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name=autoconf.patch; SizeOnDisk=331 LS0tIGF1dG9jb25mLmMub3JpCVR1ZSBNYXkgMTkgMTk6MTU6NTAgMTk5OAorKysgYXV0b2NvbmYu YwlUdWUgTWF5IDE5IDE5OjU1OjAyIDE5OTgKQEAgLTMzMyw3ICszMzMsNyBAQAogI2VuZGlmIC8q IEJPT1RQX05GU1JPT1QgKi8KIAogI2lmZGVmIE5GUwotCWlmICghbW91bnRyb290ID09IE5VTEwg JiYgbmZzX2Rpc2tsZXNzX3ZhbGlkKSB7CisJaWYgKCFtb3VudHJvb3QgJiYgbmZzX2Rpc2tsZXNz X3ZhbGlkKSB7CiAJCWlmIChib290dmVyYm9zZSkKIAkJCXByaW50ZigiQ29uc2lkZXJpbmcgTkZT IHJvb3QgZi9zLlxuIik7CiAJCW1vdW50cm9vdCA9IG5mc19tb3VudHJvb3Q7Cg== --_=XFMail.1.2.p0.FreeBSD:980520100528:4064=_-- End of MIME message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 20 03:10:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA04402 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 20 May 1998 03:10:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA04249 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 03:10:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id TAA22575; Wed, 20 May 1998 19:40:01 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980520194000.F22221@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 19:40:00 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: FreeBSD Stable Users Subject: Kernel won't build in -stable Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk A freshly cvsupped -stable failed to build today: > loading kernel > ../../i386/isa/isa.c:237: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment > ../../i386/isa/isa.c:237: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment > ../../i386/isa/isa.c:271: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment > ../../i386/isa/isa.c:271: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment > ../../i386/isa/isa.c:288: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment > ../../i386/isa/isa.c:288: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment > ../../i386/isa/isa.c:336: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment > ../../i386/isa/isa.c:336: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment I strongly suspect that this is related to this change to isa_device.h: > revision 1.47 > date: 1997/09/21 21:41:19; author: gibbs; state: Exp; lines: +2 -1 > aha1542.c aic6360.c cy.c fd.c ft.c > if_ie.c if_wl.c if_zp.c isa.c isa_device.h > labpc.c mcd.c ncr5380.c scd.c seagate.c si.c > sio.c tw.c ultra14f.c wcd.c wd.c: > > Update for changes in the callout interface. > > apic_vector.s icu_vector.s ipl.s ipl_funcs.c: > > Add CAM software/hardware interrupt support. Backing out the change doesn't help: it draws lots of errors in Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 20 04:09:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA13435 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 20 May 1998 04:09:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [194.93.177.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA13347 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 04:08:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11237; Wed, 20 May 1998 14:08:17 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Message-ID: <19980520140817.A11196@ucb.crimea.ua> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 14:08:17 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: FreeBSD Stable Users Subject: Re: Kernel won't build in -stable Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Stable Users References: <19980520194000.F22221@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91i In-Reply-To: <19980520194000.F22221@freebie.lemis.com>; from Greg Lehey on Wed, May 20, 1998 at 07:40:00PM +0930 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk This question has been answered a lot of times ;-( Upgrade procedure requires that you make the world! This particular change affected the config program too. Rebuild /usr/sbin/config first, then compile your kernel again. On Wed, May 20, 1998 at 07:40:00PM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > A freshly cvsupped -stable failed to build today: > > > loading kernel > > ../../i386/isa/isa.c:237: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment [deleted] -- Ruslan Ermilov System Administrator ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380-652-247647 Simferopol, Crimea 2426679 ICQ Network, UIN To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 20 04:15:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA14626 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 20 May 1998 04:15:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from claret.cisco.com (claret.cisco.com [171.69.160.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA14577 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 04:15:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fty@cisco.com) Received: (fty@localhost) by claret.cisco.com (8.8.4-Cisco.1/8.6.5) id HAA22521 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 20 May 1998 07:14:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 07:14:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Frank Terhaar-Yonkers Message-Id: <199805201114.HAA22521@claret.cisco.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RELENG_2_2 cvsup tag? X-Face: ,fjtWiMPydUaSQl%8[eTg`u:^BXt&T)Sny(6w\*U"5D9H[Z$kG%Q/z;Z=NwrPiXf-aMF3R) Rsand$,]26-8>5@HD(A3A79gN|0%NHsdek4mT8E,>j+\w!~d2#nH;~NV!5a0"`5$Cj8d\or(Jy/JQ_ |uc;C[filmZ(~#lre*l:|O%d/PJFy`.5w8)sMZ-)QI3TaV"j'k X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Have there been any commits to RELENG_2_2 of late, or has the tag for -stable changed? I've seen no deltas via cvsup in a very long time. I'd like to get the recent security fixes .. thanks - Frank \\\\////\\\\////\\\\\////\\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\ Frank Terhaar-Yonkers Cisco Systems, Inc. Cat3900 Software Team 7025 Kit Creek Road PO Box 14987 Research Triangle Park, North Carolina 27709 fty@cisco.com voice (919)472-2101 FAX (919)472-2940 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 20 04:42:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA20313 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 20 May 1998 04:42:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [194.93.177.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA20047 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 04:41:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11654; Wed, 20 May 1998 14:41:04 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Message-ID: <19980520144104.A11629@ucb.crimea.ua> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 14:41:04 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_2_2 cvsup tag? Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199805201114.HAA22521@claret.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91i In-Reply-To: <199805201114.HAA22521@claret.cisco.com>; from Frank Terhaar-Yonkers on Wed, May 20, 1998 at 07:14:45AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Wed, May 20, 1998 at 07:14:45AM -0400, Frank Terhaar-Yonkers wrote: > > Have there been any commits to RELENG_2_2 of late, or has the tag for > -stable changed? I've seen no deltas via cvsup in a very long time. > > I'd like to get the recent security fixes .. > > > thanks - Frank Yes, there have been a lot of commits into RELENG_2_2, and it's name is not changed. What CVSup server do you use? -- Ruslan Ermilov System Administrator ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380-652-247647 Simferopol, Crimea 2426679 ICQ Network, UIN To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 20 05:53:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA00702 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 20 May 1998 05:53:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from not.caput.dk ([194.182.253.167]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA00697 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 05:53:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cedric@caput.com) Received: (from cedric@localhost) by not.caput.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19285; Wed, 20 May 1998 15:06:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from cedric) Message-ID: <19980520150611.A19264@caput.com> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 15:06:11 +0200 From: Cedric Valignat To: Greg Lehey , FreeBSD Stable Users Subject: Re: Kernel won't build in -stable References: <19980520194000.F22221@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19980520194000.F22221@freebie.lemis.com>; from Greg Lehey on Wed, May 20, 1998 at 07:40:00PM +0930 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Justin T. Gibbs wrote: > Rebuild config, reconfig your kernel, and start reading this list so > you don't ask a question that already been answered. 8-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 20 06:45:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA06131 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 20 May 1998 06:45:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from moran.grauel.com (moran.grauel.com [199.233.104.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA06120; Wed, 20 May 1998 06:45:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rjk@moran.grauel.com) Received: (from rjk@localhost) by moran.grauel.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id IAA14748; Wed, 20 May 1998 08:46:05 -0500 (EST) From: Richard J Kuhns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13666.56988.873158.353135@moran.grauel.com> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 08:46:04 -0500 (EST) To: Mike Smith Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: panic: root dev has no bdevsw In-Reply-To: <199805192240.PAA01134@dingo.cdrom.com> References: <13665.62936.648794.309002@sawmill.grauel.com> <199805192240.PAA01134@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.47 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Mike Smith writes: > > If I missed a "heads up" in -stable, I'm sorry, but I can't find anything > > relating to this in the mailing list archives for either -questions or > > -stable, at least not by searching for `bdevsw'. > > > > I just (about 9:30AM EST) cvsuped the latest -stable bits and made world; > > no problems at all. I then compiled and installed a new kernel which > > panics immediatley after the device probes (where it should say `changing > > root device to...') with `panic: root dev has no bdevsw'. > > You left the 'sd' device out of your new kernel config, I suspect. > Both you (Mike) and Jordan suggested that I fat-fingered my config file. This particular config hadn't been touched since last November, and had been used to build kernels approximately once per month since then. However, when consulting the experts, it's always a good idea to listen to their advice, so I started going through the config file line by line. It turns out that the problem was the line config kernel root on wd0 Sometime between the end of March and the present, that stopped working. I have no IDE devices configured, and It Always Worked Before. Changing it to `root on sd0' took care of the problem. Thanks. -- Richard Kuhns rjk@grauel.com PO Box 6249 Tel: (765)477-6000 \ 100 Sawmill Road x319 Lafayette, IN 47903 (800)489-4891 / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 20 07:31:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA10606 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 20 May 1998 07:31:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mixer.visi.com (root@mixer.visi.com [209.98.98.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA10574; Wed, 20 May 1998 07:31:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nordquis@visi.com) Received: from thumper.visi.com (nordquis@thumper.visi.com [209.98.98.3]) by mixer.visi.com (8.8.8/8.7.5) with ESMTP id JAA26127; Wed, 20 May 1998 09:30:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from nordquis@localhost) by thumper.visi.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) id JAA11257; Wed, 20 May 1998 09:30:56 -0500 (CDT) Posted-Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 09:30:56 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199805201430.JAA11257@thumper.visi.com> Subject: Re: PnP Questions (under 2.2.5) In-Reply-To: <199805191930.VAA10362@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> from Luigi Rizzo at "May 19, 98 09:30:13 pm" To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it (Luigi Rizzo) Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 09:30:55 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Brent J. Nordquist" Reply-to: "Brent J. Nordquist" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk | I think you are better off using the newer PnP patches, heavily based | on Sujal's code but with a reworked user- and device-driver interface. | They are also on the 2.2.5 CD, under xperimnt/luigi something. | (documentation and a manpage should be included). This is the code that | got included in 2.2.6 Super! This had great documentation and was very straightforward to set up. I've got it working now. Thanks for the pointer! -- Brent J. Nordquist / bjn@visi.com W: +1 612 905-7806 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 20 09:38:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA26575 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 20 May 1998 09:38:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gate.lustig.com (gate.lustig.com [205.246.2.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA26441 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 09:37:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from barry@lustig.com) Received: (qmail 21138 invoked from network); 20 May 1998 16:37:22 -0000 Received: from devious.lustig.com (205.246.2.244) by gate.lustig.com with SMTP; 20 May 1998 16:37:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 10224 invoked by uid 21); 20 May 1998 16:37:22 -0000 Message-ID: <19980520163722.10223.qmail@devious.lustig.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.2mach (Enhance 2.1) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148.RR) From: Barry Lustig Date: Wed, 20 May 98 12:37:21 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: YP Problems on 2.2.6 Stable Reply-To: barry@lustig.com X-Organizations: Barry Lustig & Associates, Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm seeing lots of these types of error messages cropping up: yp_first: clnt_call: RPC: Timed out yp_next: clnt_call: RPC: Timed out yp_next: clnt_call: RPC: Timed out I'm running on a 2.2.6 stable system, CVSUP'ed from a few weeks ago with a kernel from today. Any ideas what might be up? Thanks, Barry Lustig To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 20 10:03:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA02235 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 20 May 1998 10:03:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from papaya.mail.easynet.net (papaya.mail.easynet.net [195.40.1.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA02207 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 10:03:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@boothman.easynet.co.uk) Received: (qmail 27786 invoked from network); 20 May 1998 17:03:25 -0000 Received: from boothman.easynet.co.uk (194.154.100.117) by papaya.mail.easynet.net with SMTP; 20 May 1998 17:03:25 -0000 Received: by Boothman.easynet.co.uk (VPOP3 - Unregistered) with SMTP; Wed, 20 May 1998 16:48:24 +0100 Message-ID: <3562FB48.545639DB@boothman.easynet.co.uk> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 16:48:24 +0100 From: Andrew Boothman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Luigi Rizzo CC: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PnP Questions (under 2.2.5) References: <199805191930.VAA10362@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server: VPOP3 V1.2.0c Unregistered Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > This is the code that got included in 2.2.6 > Forgive me if I'm making a massive mistake, but the handbook said that FreeBSD had no support for PnP devices. And by that I mean that there is no 'stable' support, in other words the only support available is still in development. >From your statement you make it sound like 2.2.6 has got finished PnP code in it. Has it? Thanks! -- Andrew Boothman : andrew@boothman.easynet.co.uk (http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~boothman/andrew/) "Yahoo is a search engine. Netanyahoo is an Israeli search engine" -Robin Williams To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 20 10:06:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA02902 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 20 May 1998 10:06:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA02779 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 10:06:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id RAA12108; Wed, 20 May 1998 17:23:07 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199805201523.RAA12108@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: PnP Questions (under 2.2.5) To: andrew@boothman.easynet.co.uk (Andrew Boothman) Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 17:23:06 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3562FB48.545639DB@boothman.easynet.co.uk> from "Andrew Boothman" at May 20, 98 04:48:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Forgive me if I'm making a massive mistake, but the handbook said that > FreeBSD had no support for PnP devices. perhaps was not updated. but 2.2.6 and successors do have working PnP code, albeit with some limitations (i.e. it either reads what the bios has done for you, or allows you do to manual configuration of PnP resources). luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 20 10:32:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07974 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 20 May 1998 10:32:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fox.doc.ic.ac.uk (fox.doc.ic.ac.uk [146.169.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA07936 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 10:31:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from md@doc.ic.ac.uk) Received: from doc.ic.ac.uk [146.169.1.33] by fox.doc.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0ycCfo-0001Ar-00; Wed, 20 May 1998 18:29:04 +0100 Message-ID: <356312DF.560EE29F@doc.ic.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 18:29:03 +0100 From: Mark Dawson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.32 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dg@root.com CC: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: post-crash fsck failing with DUP inodes References: <199805200112.SAA29357@implode.root.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > >The fileserver I run using 2.2.6-stable is crashing after 3-4 weeks. On > >rebooting there is typically a DUP inode problem with filesystems that > >have heavy NFS use. ... > A bug that caused a problem like the above was just recently fixed in > both -current and -stable. You're right. The description of the problem at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=6611 fits the symptoms I've seen here. The Problem Report is also a good read - congratulations to Stephen Clawson for solving what looks like a subtle and nasty bug! Many thanks, Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 20 12:39:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA08509 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:39:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pluto.plutotech.com (mail.plutotech.com [206.168.67.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA08432 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:38:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gibbs@plutotech.com) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by pluto.plutotech.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22435; Wed, 20 May 1998 13:38:19 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199805201938.NAA22435@pluto.plutotech.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Werner Griessl cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: broken remote boot In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 20 May 1998 10:05:28 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 13:34:08 -0600 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk >Yesterday I found the buggy line in autoconf.c . >Remote boot is working again for me. >Attached is a unified diff for sys/i386/i386/autoconf.c . > >Werner Patch committed. Thanks! -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 20 12:49:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11340 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:49:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from claret.cisco.com (claret.cisco.com [171.69.160.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA11268 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 12:49:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fty@cisco.com) Received: (fty@localhost) by claret.cisco.com (8.8.4-Cisco.1/8.6.5) id PAA21004; Wed, 20 May 1998 15:48:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 15:48:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Frank Terhaar-Yonkers Message-Id: <199805201948.PAA21004@claret.cisco.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, ru@ucb.crimea.ua Subject: Re: RELENG_2_2 cvsup tag? X-Face: ,fjtWiMPydUaSQl%8[eTg`u:^BXt&T)Sny(6w\*U"5D9H[Z$kG%Q/z;Z=NwrPiXf-aMF3R) Rsand$,]26-8>5@HD(A3A79gN|0%NHsdek4mT8E,>j+\w!~d2#nH;~NV!5a0"`5$Cj8d\or(Jy/JQ_ |uc;C[filmZ(~#lre*l:|O%d/PJFy`.5w8)sMZ-)QI3TaV"j'k X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I've tried both: releng22.freebsd.org and cvsup.freebsd.org >On Wed, May 20, 1998 at 07:14:45AM -0400, Frank Terhaar-Yonkers wrote: >> >> Have there been any commits to RELENG_2_2 of late, or has the tag for >> -stable changed? I've seen no deltas via cvsup in a very long time. >> >> I'd like to get the recent security fixes .. >> >> >> thanks - Frank > >Yes, there have been a lot of commits into RELENG_2_2, and it's name >is not changed. > >What CVSup server do you use? > >-- >Ruslan Ermilov System Administrator >ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank >+380-652-247647 Simferopol, Crimea >2426679 ICQ Network, UIN > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > \\\\////\\\\////\\\\\////\\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\ Frank Terhaar-Yonkers Cisco Systems, Inc. Cat3900 Software Team 7025 Kit Creek Road PO Box 14987 Research Triangle Park, North Carolina 27709 fty@cisco.com voice (919)472-2101 FAX (919)472-2940 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 20 13:31:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19210 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 20 May 1998 13:31:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pcOldhamB.Res.carleton.edu (pcOldhamB.Res.Carleton.edu [137.22.96.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18947 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 13:30:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oldhamb@carleton.edu) Received: from localhost (oldhamb@localhost) by pcOldhamB.Res.carleton.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA02396 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 15:30:12 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from oldhamb@carleton.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: pcOldhamB.Res.carleton.edu: oldhamb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 15:30:11 -0500 (CDT) From: "Benjamin A. Oldham" X-Sender: oldhamb@pcOldhamB.Res.carleton.edu To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PnP Questions (under 2.2.5) In-Reply-To: <199805201523.RAA12108@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Wed, 20 May 1998, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > perhaps was not updated. but 2.2.6 and successors do have working PnP > code, albeit with some limitations (i.e. it either reads what the bios > has done for you, or allows you do to manual configuration of PnP > resources). > > luigi this reminds me- my sound card is one of the ones that you have to do a manual config of the kernel the first time you boot with the kernel. I'm sure that this gets stored in some file, so that I can make a kernel and reboot without having to re-enter the PnP configuration. Anyone know which file this might be? Or at least, how I can automate this configuration? If it matters, my sound card is a SB16 PnP, with default settings (IRQ 5, 0x220, 0x330, 0x388, etc...) And I'm configuring PnP with the line: pnp 1 0 os enable port0 0x220 port1 0x330 irq0 5 drq0 1 drq1 5. Ben To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 20 16:18:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA21732 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 20 May 1998 16:18:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from couatl.uchicago.edu (couatl.uchicago.edu [128.135.21.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA21370 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 16:16:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sfarrell@couatl.uchicago.edu) Received: (from sfarrell@localhost) by couatl.uchicago.edu (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id SAA00374; Wed, 20 May 1998 18:16:37 -0500 (CDT) To: freebsd-stable Subject: 2.2.6-stable From: sfarrell+lists@farrell.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 20 May 1998 18:16:37 -0500 Message-ID: <87k97gr0ru.fsf@couatl.uchicago.edu> Lines: 10 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.9/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk so i've had 3 or 4 crashes on a -stable kernel built today... sources were grabbed in the past week... problem was triggered 100% when running staroffice though it happens at other times as well. went back to generic 2.2.6 and seems ok now. -- Steve Farrell To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 20 17:42:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05053 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 20 May 1998 17:42:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA04958 for ; Wed, 20 May 1998 17:41:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 0ycJQP-0004Fr-00; Wed, 20 May 1998 17:41:37 -0700 Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 17:41:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: sfarrell+lists@farrell.org cc: freebsd-stable Subject: Re: 2.2.6-stable In-Reply-To: <87k97gr0ru.fsf@couatl.uchicago.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On 20 May 1998 sfarrell+lists@farrell.org wrote: > > so i've had 3 or 4 crashes on a -stable kernel built today... sources > were grabbed in the past week... problem was triggered 100% when > running staroffice though it happens at other times as well. went > back to generic 2.2.6 and seems ok now. ...except you don't actually say what the crash was. Reboot? Panic? Hang? Any error messages? > -- > > Steve Farrell Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 21 00:10:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA12698 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 May 1998 00:10:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [194.93.177.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA12380 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 00:09:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17579; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:08:08 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Message-ID: <19980521100807.A17484@ucb.crimea.ua> Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 10:08:07 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Frank Terhaar-Yonkers , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RELENG_2_2 cvsup tag? Mail-Followup-To: Frank Terhaar-Yonkers , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199805201948.PAA21004@claret.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91i In-Reply-To: <199805201948.PAA21004@claret.cisco.com>; from Frank Terhaar-Yonkers on Wed, May 20, 1998 at 03:48:31PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Can you show me your supfile? On Wed, May 20, 1998 at 03:48:31PM -0400, Frank Terhaar-Yonkers wrote: > > I've tried both: > releng22.freebsd.org and cvsup.freebsd.org > > >On Wed, May 20, 1998 at 07:14:45AM -0400, Frank Terhaar-Yonkers wrote: > >> > >> Have there been any commits to RELENG_2_2 of late, or has the tag for > >> -stable changed? I've seen no deltas via cvsup in a very long time. > >> > >> I'd like to get the recent security fixes .. > >> > >> > >> thanks - Frank > > > >Yes, there have been a lot of commits into RELENG_2_2, and it's name > >is not changed. > > > >What CVSup server do you use? > > > >-- > >Ruslan Ermilov System Administrator > >ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank > >+380-652-247647 Simferopol, Crimea > >2426679 ICQ Network, UIN > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > \\\\////\\\\////\\\\\////\\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\ > Frank Terhaar-Yonkers > Cisco Systems, Inc. > Cat3900 Software Team > 7025 Kit Creek Road PO Box 14987 > Research Triangle Park, North Carolina 27709 > fty@cisco.com voice (919)472-2101 FAX (919)472-2940 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Ruslan Ermilov System Administrator ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380-652-247647 Simferopol, Crimea 2426679 ICQ Network, UIN To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 21 01:02:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA21049 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 May 1998 01:02:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA21041 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 01:02:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id RAA27366; Thu, 21 May 1998 17:32:44 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980521173244.C27201@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 17:32:44 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Cedric Valignat , FreeBSD Stable Users Subject: Re: Kernel won't build in -stable References: <19980520194000.F22221@freebie.lemis.com> <19980520150611.A19264@caput.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19980520150611.A19264@caput.com>; from Cedric Valignat on Wed, May 20, 1998 at 03:06:11PM +0200 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 X-Mutt-References: <19980520150611.A19264@caput.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk To reinstate some context: > A freshly cvsupped -stable failed to build today: > >> loading kernel >> ../../i386/isa/isa.c:237: Undefined symbol `_isa_devtab_cam' referenced from text segment >> ... > > I strongly suspect that this is related to this change to > isa_device.h: > >> revision 1.47 >> date: 1997/09/21 21:41:19; author: gibbs; state: Exp; lines: +2 -1 On Wed, 20 May 1998 at 15:06:11 +0200, Cedric Valignat wrote: > > Justin T. Gibbs wrote: >> Rebuild config, reconfig your kernel, and start reading this list so >> you don't ask a question that already been answered. 8-) Sorry, I should have expanded on "freshly cvsupped". In fact, this was completely new installation. I installed 2.2.6 from scratch, built up a completely new repository, extracted RELENG_2_2_STABLE, and did a "make world". Only then did I try to build the kernel. I checked, and the new config version had been installed. I rebuilt config anyway and tried again, and the second time it worked. Comparing the config versions (ident) showed them to be the same. What's going on here? Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 21 10:25:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16740 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:25:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA16733 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:25:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 0ycZ61-0006ia-00; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:25:37 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 10:25:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Barry Lustig cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: YP Problems on 2.2.6 Stable In-Reply-To: <19980520163722.10223.qmail@devious.lustig.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Wed, 20 May 1998, Barry Lustig wrote: > I'm seeing lots of these types of error messages cropping up: > > yp_first: clnt_call: RPC: Timed out > > yp_next: clnt_call: RPC: Timed out > > yp_next: clnt_call: RPC: Timed out > > I'm running on a 2.2.6 stable system, CVSUP'ed from a few weeks ago with a > kernel from today. Any ideas what might be up? The YP server is unreliable. Most often caused by network problems, or just an overloaded or down YP server. I used to see this a lot, when network problems causes a 3% packet loss between the client and server. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 21 10:51:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22041 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:51:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA22007; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:51:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom by misery.sdf.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 0ycZ0T-0004HR-00; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:19:53 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 10:19:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom To: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: DPT install problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I'm trying to use the boot-dpt 2.2.6-RELEASE floppy to bootstrap a new DPT based system. However, sysinstall hangs after newfs'ing the filesystems. I'm using a 21GB array, with auto-defaults for the filesystems, so /usr is over 20GB in size. If I delete /usr and replace it with a 500MB filesystem, leaving the remaining space unallocated, sysinstall has no problem completing the newfs step. Anyone else had problems with sysinstall on a mid-sized array like this? Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 21 10:55:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22741 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:55:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pluto.plutotech.com (mail.plutotech.com [206.168.67.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22691; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:55:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gibbs@plutotech.com) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by pluto.plutotech.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA18792; Thu, 21 May 1998 11:54:57 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199805211754.LAA18792@pluto.plutotech.com> Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 11:50:47 -0600 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Subject: CAM 980520 snapshot now available. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk To: undisclosed-recipients:; ------- Blind-Carbon-Copy X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: scsi@FreeBSD.org Subject: CAM 980520 snapshot now available. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 11:50:47 -0600 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" The latest snapshot of the CAM SCSI layer is now available in the usual places: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/cam ftp://ftp.kdm.org/pub/FreeBSD/cam This snapshot is in tar file format which should ease the burden in applying it over a previous snapshot. >From the README: Changes for the 980520 Snapshot: - Systat/vmstat/iostat cleanup. Device statistic routines are now encapsulated in the devstat library. The devstat library and the utilities that use it handle device arrival and departure events dynamically. - rpc.rstatd now uses the devstat code. Not that rup and friends make use of the disk statistics anyway. - Fixed a few error recovery problems in the aic7xxx driver. - Fixed a bug in xpt_freeze_simq and xpt_freeze_devq that caused the BusLogic timeout routine to panic. - Added quirk support to supress the retreival of serial numbers from devices. This may be needed for some revisions of the Toshiba 3401. - -- Justin T. Gibbs Kenneth D. Merry ------- End of Blind-Carbon-Copy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 21 11:57:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03591 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 May 1998 11:57:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.atipa.com (altrox.atipa.com [208.128.22.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA03435 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 11:56:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@atipa.com) Received: (qmail 1874 invoked by uid 1017); 21 May 1998 17:53:53 -0000 Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 11:53:53 -0600 (MDT) From: Atipa To: Barry Lustig cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: YP Problems on 2.2.6 Stable In-Reply-To: <19980520163722.10223.qmail@devious.lustig.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I have problems too. I don't think their "fixes" improved stability as they should have. I have my NIS master on a different subnet, so I must use "ypbind -s -ypsetme; ypset ". I always get an error, but the ypset works no problem! Freakin weird if you ask me. I also think the docs are _really_ lacking. Let me know if anyone actually gets back to you; all my complaints several weeks ago were ignored. Kevin On Wed, 20 May 1998, Barry Lustig wrote: > Hi, > > I'm seeing lots of these types of error messages cropping up: > > yp_first: clnt_call: RPC: Timed out > > yp_next: clnt_call: RPC: Timed out > > yp_next: clnt_call: RPC: Timed out > > I'm running on a 2.2.6 stable system, CVSUP'ed from a few weeks ago with a > kernel from today. Any ideas what might be up? > > Thanks, > > Barry Lustig > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 21 12:28:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09268 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:28:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09165 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:28:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29863; Thu, 21 May 1998 12:28:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Atipa cc: Barry Lustig , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: YP Problems on 2.2.6 Stable In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 21 May 1998 11:53:53 MDT." Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 12:28:23 -0700 Message-ID: <29859.895778903@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > I also think the docs are _really_ lacking. I think that's a given for almost any part of the system. Given that it's also the _user community_ (that's you) who really generate the bulk of the docs since that developers sure don't and have never really been a category of individuals who could traditionally be depended upon to do such things, who's fault is this now then? :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 21 15:22:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15132 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:22:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA15052 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:22:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 0ycdiu-0002f2-00; Thu, 21 May 1998 15:22:04 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 15:22:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Atipa cc: Barry Lustig , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: YP Problems on 2.2.6 Stable In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 21 May 1998, Atipa wrote: > > I have problems too. I don't think their "fixes" improved stability as What fixes? Who is "their"? > they should have. I have my NIS master on a different subnet, so I must > use "ypbind -s -ypsetme; ypset ". I always get an error, > but the ypset works no problem! Freakin weird if you ask me. What error? You can get timeout errors in that config before ypbind becomes bound, but that is normal. I use a special ypbind that can find non-local servers. > I also think the docs are _really_ lacking. Docs are pretty good. I setup NIS for the first time from them two years ago. There are man pages for ypbind, ypserv, and the overall yp manpage. > Let me know if anyone actually gets back to you; all my complaints several > weeks ago were ignored. > > Kevin Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 21 17:25:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA09485 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 May 1998 17:25:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.atipa.com (altrox.atipa.com [208.128.22.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA09401 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 17:25:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@atipa.com) Received: (qmail 3143 invoked by uid 1017); 21 May 1998 23:22:25 -0000 Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 17:22:25 -0600 (MDT) From: Atipa To: Tom , jkh@time.cdrom.com cc: Barry Lustig , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: YP Problems on 2.2.6 Stable In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > I have problems too. I don't think their "fixes" improved stability as > What fixes? Who is "their"? >From 2.2.6 RELEASE NOTE: o Various improvements to the NIS code. Does not say by whom. Man pages not updated since the 1995, so I don't think "whom" would be listed there. I have searched through the mailing list archives and not successfully found the maintainer(s) of NIS stuff. > > they should have. I have my NIS master on a different subnet, so I must > > use "ypbind -s -ypsetme; ypset ". I always get an error, > > but the ypset works no problem! Freakin weird if you ask me. > What error? You can get timeout errors in that config before ypbind > becomes bound, but that is normal. No, I means _error messages_. It says, "Sorry, can't ypbind for host foo on domain bar." But it does! It does delay (like a timeout), and you would think it didn't work, but it did. Definitely a misfeature. % domainname bar % ypwich (whatever you ypset to works) > I use a special ypbind that can find non-local servers. How? How can you tell it what broadcast addrs to look for if they are not on your same wire? That would be a nifty addition to the package. > > I also think the docs are _really_ lacking. > > Docs are pretty good. I setup NIS for the first time from them two > years ago. There are man pages for ypbind, ypserv, and the overall yp > manpage. Well, they are admittedly bad. They themselves say to find a version of Solaris and look at their man pages. I know Theo de Raadt has better things to do w/ his time these days than support NIS on FreeBSD. I have asked several questions about how to set up slave servers, and noone can tell me. The man pages do not reference that at all. If I ever find out, I will update the docs. Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 21 17:58:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16925 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 May 1998 17:58:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA16903 for ; Thu, 21 May 1998 17:58:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 0ycg9n-00036w-00; Thu, 21 May 1998 17:57:59 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 17:57:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Atipa cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, Barry Lustig , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: YP Problems on 2.2.6 Stable In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 21 May 1998, Atipa wrote: > > > I have problems too. I don't think their "fixes" improved stability as > > What fixes? Who is "their"? > > From 2.2.6 RELEASE NOTE: > o Various improvements to the NIS code. > > Does not say by whom. Man pages not updated since the 1995, so I don't > think "whom" would be listed there. I have searched through the mailing > list archives and not successfully found the maintainer(s) of NIS stuff. I don't think any improvements were made between 2.2.6 and 2.2.5. I was working with Bill Paul on a memory leak in the YP client lib, but I couldn't test his fix quickly enough... In case you didn't get that, Bill Paul is the maintainer, and his name is all over the stuff, and all over the mailing lists. > > > they should have. I have my NIS master on a different subnet, so I must > > > use "ypbind -s -ypsetme; ypset ". I always get an error, > > > but the ypset works no problem! Freakin weird if you ask me. > > > What error? You can get timeout errors in that config before ypbind > > becomes bound, but that is normal. > > No, I means _error messages_. It says, "Sorry, can't ypbind for host foo > on domain bar." But it does! It does delay (like a timeout), and you would > think it didn't work, but it did. Definitely a misfeature. > > % domainname > bar > > % ypwich > (whatever you ypset to works) Never seen that. > > I use a special ypbind that can find non-local servers. > How? How can you tell it what broadcast addrs to look for if they are not > on your same wire? That would be a nifty addition to the package. You tell ypbind where the various possible YP servers are. See the manpage for current's ypbind. > > > I also think the docs are _really_ lacking. > > > > Docs are pretty good. I setup NIS for the first time from them two > > years ago. There are man pages for ypbind, ypserv, and the overall yp > > manpage. > > Well, they are admittedly bad. They themselves say to find a version of > Solaris and look at their man pages. I know Theo de Raadt has better > things to do w/ his time these days than support NIS on FreeBSD. Huh? Theo hasn't touched that code in a while. I also don't find any references to "Solaris" in those manpages, so I don't even know what you are looking at. > I have asked several questions about how to set up slave servers, and > noone can tell me. The man pages do not reference that at all. If I ever > find out, I will update the docs. Huh? I've never seen it. Slave servers are EASY. Just set the domainname, run ypserv, add the slave's name to ypservers on the master, enable map pushes in the Makefile, and rebuild all the maps. Basically, there are no specific instructions for a slave server, because you just need to read the ypserv, yp, and ypbind manpage, and put 2 and 2 together. I've got a master and a slave YP running in a hybrid mode (they are clients to themselves) plus one other pure YP client. > Kevin Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu May 21 21:35:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA27356 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 21 May 1998 21:35:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw00.execpc.com (mailgw00.execpc.com [169.207.1.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA27267; Thu, 21 May 1998 21:35:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (minbar-2-31.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.135.159]) by mailgw00.execpc.com (8.8.8) id XAA25329; Thu, 21 May 1998 23:34:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from fpawlak@localhost) by darkstar.connect.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA03628; Thu, 21 May 1998 23:34:52 -0500 (CDT) From: "Frank Pawlak" Message-Id: <980522043451.ZM3627@darkstar.connect.com> Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 04:34:51 +0000 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (5.0.0 30July97) To: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD A Solution For Business MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Volunteers needed!!! Note Please post all responses to advocacy!!!!! I am proposing an advocacy project to produce a document that will have several uses. First, marketing FreeBSD. The finished product will be aimed at product managers in the commercial software development world with the intent of raising the visability of FreeBSD and presenting reasons to look at FreeBSD as a solid development platform. Second, publication. This document could serve as a kick start bases for magazine articles aimed at business professionals that make decisions as to what gets included as a strategic platform in their IS shops. I would suggest that we take the high road in doing this, and not make it a BSD vs Linux gun fight. We should do it with the idea in mind that any OS other than FreeBSD is a competitor, but sell FreeBSD only on its' own merits. In other words we are a class act. There are any number of ways that we can approach this project. Jordan has made the suggestion that each volunteer produce a document of their own and then we can pick the 4 or 5 best and blend them into the final product. I think this is a good suggestion and a workable idea. However, I would like to propose a counter idea to this, that would more readily leverage the collective knowledge base and reduce the work load of each volunteer in producing a final document. My thinking in this is that some people can write, others write extremely well others have deep technical knowledge of FreeBSD. If we could combine all individual areas of expertise into one common working document we maybe able to reach our goals faster and easier. This could be facilitated using a cut and paste method by a document maintainer - me, I have the Excedren bottle near by ;-) To that end I have below a rough outline of document content to start off this effort, subject to group revision and approval. FreeBSD A Solution For Business Executive Summary a) Why develop or port to an open source operating system b) Advantages of using an open source OS from a competitive perspective c) What makes FreeBSD the open source operating system of choice i) The FreeBSD pedigree ii) The importance of the FreeBSD development and release model iii) Technical qualities of FreeBSD (over all product quality issues) Stability Speed Scalability - solid, steady performance under heavy loads iv) Why FreeBSD is am excellent development platform d) The impact of open sources licensing on commercial development i) Advantages of the Berkeley License e) Future direction of the FreeBSD project f) Where is FreeBSD being used Where do I stand on all of this? No question I very much need help on the technical side of the issues, my UNIX experience is short and technical skills weak. I can do word smithing and contribute ideas, and am willing to commit the time and effort to coordinate the project. I am sure there will be other areas where I can contribute as this get further defined and work progresses. Let me know what you think of this idea and of any revisions that you think necessary. Thanks in advance. Frank Pawlak To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 22 06:27:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA18745 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 May 1998 06:27:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail-gw.pacbell.net (mail-gw.pacbell.net [206.13.28.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA18545; Fri, 22 May 1998 06:26:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jackv@earthling.net) Received: from eliot.pacbell.net (ppp-206-170-1-252.snfc21.pacbell.net [206.170.1.252]) by mail-gw.pacbell.net (8.8.8/8.7.1+antispam) with SMTP id GAA23866; Fri, 22 May 1998 06:26:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jack Velte" To: "Frank Pawlak" , , , Subject: Re: FreeBSD A Solution For Business Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 06:12:55 -0700 Message-ID: <01bd8583$55a61680$fc01aace@eliot.pacbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Subject: FreeBSD A Solution For Business >Volunteers needed!!! > >Note Please post all responses to advocacy!!!!! >First, marketing FreeBSD. The finished product will be aimed at product >managers in the commercial software development world with the intent of >raising the visability of FreeBSD and presenting reasons to look at FreeBSD as >a solid development platform. if some salesmen in suites take them to lunch, maybe they'll listen. >Second, publication. This document could serve as a kick start bases for >magazine articles aimed at business professionals that make decisions as to >what gets included as a strategic platform in their IS shops. FreeBSD certainly gets better press overseas. >There are any number of ways that we can approach this project. Jordan has >made the suggestion that each volunteer produce a document of their own and >then we can pick the 4 or 5 best and blend them into the final product. I >using a cut and paste method by a document maintainer - me, I have the Excedren >bottle near by ;-) :-) > FreeBSD > > A Solution For Business not. >Executive Summary > > >a) Why develop or port to an open source operating system buying packages is much easier. >b) Advantages of using an open source OS from a competitive perspective which? if you want to roll everything yourself, like Yahoo? >c) What makes FreeBSD the open source operating system of choice > > > i) The FreeBSD pedigree * > > ii) The importance of the FreeBSD development and release model * > > iii) Technical qualities of FreeBSD (over all product quality issues) * > > Stability * > > Speed * > > Scalability - solid, steady performance under heavy loads *** > > iv) Why FreeBSD is am excellent development platform > >d) The impact of open sources licensing on commercial development > > i) Advantages of the Berkeley License > > >e) Future direction of the FreeBSD project > >f) Where is FreeBSD being used this might be first. >Where do I stand on all of this? No question I very much need help on the >technical side of the issues, my UNIX experience is short and technical skills >weak. I can do word smithing and contribute ideas, and am willing to commit >the time and effort to coordinate the project. I am sure there will be other >areas where I can contribute as this get further defined and work progresses. so why do you like FreeBSD? -jack To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 22 10:08:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26834 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 May 1998 10:08:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sendero.simon-shapiro.org (sendero.simon-shapiro.org.142.69.207.in-addr.arpa [207.69.142.25] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA26797 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 10:08:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shimon@sendero.simon-shapiro.org) Received: (qmail 28248 invoked by uid 1000); 22 May 1998 18:09:43 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 14:09:43 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Organization: The Simon Shapiro Foundation From: Simon Shapiro To: Tom Subject: RE: DPT install problem Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On 21-May-98 Tom wrote: > > I'm trying to use the boot-dpt 2.2.6-RELEASE floppy to bootstrap a new > DPT based system. However, sysinstall hangs after newfs'ing the > filesystems. > > I'm using a 21GB array, with auto-defaults for the filesystems, so /usr > is over 20GB in size. If I delete /usr and replace it with a 500MB > filesystem, leaving the remaining space unallocated, sysinstall has no > problem completing the newfs step. > > Anyone else had problems with sysinstall on a mid-sized array like > this? Yup. Me :-) But not on 3.0-current. I noticed that 2.2 does not like huge partitions, but this is not consnstent. Simon --- Sincerely Yours, Simon Shapiro Shimon@Simon-Shapiro.ORG 770.265.7340 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 22 10:35:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03706 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 May 1998 10:35:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gershwin.tera.com (gershwin.tera.com [207.224.230.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03654; Fri, 22 May 1998 10:35:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tera.tera.com) Received: from athena.tera.com (athena.tera.com [207.224.230.127]) by gershwin.tera.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23009; Fri, 22 May 1998 10:35:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Kline Received: (from kline@localhost) by athena.tera.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA20206; Fri, 22 May 1998 10:34:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805221734.KAA20206@athena.tera.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD A Solution For Business In-Reply-To: <980522043451.ZM3627@darkstar.connect.com> from Frank Pawlak at "May 22, 98 04:34:51 am" To: fpawlak@execpc.com (Frank Pawlak) Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 10:34:58 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL23 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk According to Frank Pawlak: > Volunteers needed!!! > > First, marketing FreeBSD. The finished product will be aimed at product > managers in the commercial software development world with the intent of > raising the visability of FreeBSD and presenting reasons to look at FreeBSD as > a solid development platform. You've been an economist for decades, Frank. Your savvy would fit in well here. > > Second, publication. This document could serve as a kick start bases for > magazine articles aimed at business professionals that make decisions as to > what gets included as a strategic platform in their IS shops. > > I would suggest that we take the high road in doing this, and not make it a BSD > vs Linux gun fight. We should do it with the idea in mind that any OS other > than FreeBSD is a competitor, but sell FreeBSD only on its' own merits. In > other words we are a class act. Agree. Not only (not)FBSD against Linux, but similar not opposed to MS or Apple or the other BSD. A major plus on FBSD's side is that, given our compat library suites we work with virtually all the other flavors of Unix: Linux, SCO, BSDi. And plugging in a Win* emu-port (e.g. WINE) even Windows apps should run. (( It occured to me yesterday that most non-business consumers would ask, "Can this pre-configured FreeBSD run my kiddie's CD educational app for Windows??" Prob'ly not. But this may be a strength for corporations who buy workstation computers to enhance their people-power. The productivity of their workforce. Given that a pre-configured system could be accomplished, it would have all the applications necessary to help workers get their jobs done. It would have exceptional networking. It would not be laden with games, toys, diversions. )) > > There are any number of ways that we can approach this project. Jordan has > made the suggestion that each volunteer produce a document of their own and > then we can pick the 4 or 5 best and blend them into the final product. I > think this is a good suggestion and a workable idea. However, I would like to > propose a counter idea to this, that would more readily leverage the collective > knowledge base and reduce the work load of each volunteer in producing a final > document. My thinking in this is that some people can write, others write > extremely well others have deep technical knowledge of FreeBSD. If we could > combine all individual areas of expertise into one common working document we > maybe able to reach our goals faster and easier. This could be facilitated > using a cut and paste method by a document maintainer - me, I have the Excedren > bottle near by ;-) > > To that end I have below a rough outline of document content to start off this > effort, subject to group revision and approval. > > [[ ... ]] Why don't you (or you and the `list') come up with, say, a dozen document topics for people to ponder? This may be the basis for a genuine enterprise. gary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 22 11:08:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09057 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 May 1998 11:08:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from idiom.com (idiom.com [140.174.82.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09027; Fri, 22 May 1998 11:07:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billy@idiom.com) Received: from localhost (billy@localhost) by idiom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA03084; Fri, 22 May 1998 11:07:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 11:07:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Billy Thompson To: Frank Pawlak cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD A Solution For Business In-Reply-To: <980522043451.ZM3627@darkstar.connect.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I think what is absolutely necessary to this would be a graph comparison between Win NT and FreeBSD. Start with a lite load then keep pushing it up until both systems are crawling. This would demostrate not only how reliable FreeBSD is on the SAME hardware, but also how much better it is (since I'm sure there will be obviously better performance from FreeBSD). Then plaster this on as many websites as you can and include it in the business solutions document. You know how much pointy haired bosses love graphs and charts, and this should show them in simple terms that FreeBSD has better preformance and is more reliable. -billy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 22 11:13:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10462 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 May 1998 11:13:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA10430; Fri, 22 May 1998 11:13:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom by misery.sdf.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 0ycvpD-0005GX-00; Fri, 22 May 1998 10:41:47 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 10:41:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom To: Simon Shapiro cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: DPT install problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Fri, 22 May 1998, Simon Shapiro wrote: > > On 21-May-98 Tom wrote: > > > > I'm trying to use the boot-dpt 2.2.6-RELEASE floppy to bootstrap a new > > DPT based system. However, sysinstall hangs after newfs'ing the > > filesystems. > > > > I'm using a 21GB array, with auto-defaults for the filesystems, so /usr > > is over 20GB in size. If I delete /usr and replace it with a 500MB > > filesystem, leaving the remaining space unallocated, sysinstall has no > > problem completing the newfs step. > > > > Anyone else had problems with sysinstall on a mid-sized array like > > this? > > Yup. Me :-) > But not on 3.0-current. I noticed that 2.2 does not like huge partitions, > but this is not consnstent. Yes, it seems to be a sysinstall interaction. If I leave the space unallocated, and then disklabel and newfs it later, it works fine. Currently it is pretty hard to bootstrap a new DPT system. You have to be able to build a kernel somewhere else as sysinstall will install a non-DPT kernel, and you can't use sysinstall to allocate large DPT partitions. I fear for the new user. > Simon Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 22 12:10:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22824 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 May 1998 12:10:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gershwin.tera.com (gershwin.tera.com [207.224.230.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22689; Fri, 22 May 1998 12:10:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tera.tera.com) Received: from athena.tera.com (athena.tera.com [207.224.230.127]) by gershwin.tera.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25105; Fri, 22 May 1998 12:09:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Kline Received: (from kline@localhost) by athena.tera.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA21001; Fri, 22 May 1998 12:09:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805221909.MAA21001@athena.tera.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD A Solution For Business In-Reply-To: from Billy Thompson at "May 22, 98 11:07:38 am" To: billy@idiom.com (Billy Thompson) Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 12:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Cc: fpawlak@execpc.com, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL23 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk According to Billy Thompson: > > I think what is absolutely necessary to this would be a graph comparison > between Win NT and FreeBSD. Start with a lite load then keep pushing it > up until both systems are crawling. This would demostrate not only how > reliable FreeBSD is on the SAME hardware, but also how much better it is > (since I'm sure there will be obviously better performance from FreeBSD). > > Then plaster this on as many websites as you can and include it in the > business solutions document. You know how much pointy haired bosses love > graphs and charts, and this should show them in simple terms that FreeBSD > has better preformance and is more reliable. > Another issue that may be important to the more intelligent managers is that NT has little network security; FreeBSD can have security... And if this (firewall) can be pre-configured, that wins. NT______ 0.5% security FreeBSD______ 98.5% security If your e-business depended upon having a secure system, BSD provides solutions. gary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 22 12:30:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27475 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 May 1998 12:30:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27414; Fri, 22 May 1998 12:30:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01141; Fri, 22 May 1998 11:24:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805221824.LAA01141@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Tom cc: Simon Shapiro , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DPT install problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 22 May 1998 10:41:41 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 11:24:54 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > > Currently it is pretty hard to bootstrap a new DPT system. You have to > be able to build a kernel somewhere else as sysinstall will install a > non-DPT kernel, and you can't use sysinstall to allocate large DPT > partitions. I fear for the new user. New users are less than likely to be presented with such a situation. However, there are a couple of things that you personally (and other concerned users) can do to help the situation. - Contribute commentary (as you have), documentation and source/ procedural fixes. Remeber that FreeBSD is a volunteer project - your support means that it will continue to improve. - Donate a DPT controller to our testing pool so that we can test with it. Chances are we can scrape enough disks together in one place to meet the 20GB mark if we have one. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 22 12:31:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27645 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 May 1998 12:31:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.119.24.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27579; Fri, 22 May 1998 12:31:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA29158; Fri, 22 May 1998 19:31:16 GMT Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id VAA01841; Fri, 22 May 1998 21:31:12 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19980522213111.03467@follo.net> Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 21:31:11 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund To: Tom , Simon Shapiro Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DPT install problem References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Tom on Fri, May 22, 1998 at 10:41:41AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Fri, May 22, 1998 at 10:41:41AM -0700, Tom wrote: > Yes, it seems to be a sysinstall interaction. If I leave the space > unallocated, and then disklabel and newfs it later, it works fine. > > Currently it is pretty hard to bootstrap a new DPT system. You have to > be able to build a kernel somewhere else as sysinstall will install a > non-DPT kernel, and you can't use sysinstall to allocate large DPT > partitions. I fear for the new user. sysinstall doesn't do this anymore. The DPT driver is activated as part of the standard sysinstall now. As for large arrays: I think that will have to be left to you that actually have those large arrays - it is kind of difficult for us others to find out where the problem is. I suspect libdisk might be the culprit; it interact with the slice code using different IOCTLs than disklabel, IIRC. Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 22 12:51:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03072 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 May 1998 12:51:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from itsdsv1.enc.edu (fw1.enc.edu [207.95.42.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02972; Fri, 22 May 1998 12:51:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owensc@enc.edu) Received: from itsdsv2.enc.edu (itsdsv2.enc.edu [10.1.1.9]) by itsdsv1.enc.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA21467; Fri, 22 May 1998 15:42:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 15:42:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Charles Owens To: Simon Shapiro cc: Tom , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: DPT install problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Fri, 22 May 1998, Simon Shapiro wrote: > > On 21-May-98 Tom wrote: > > > > I'm trying to use the boot-dpt 2.2.6-RELEASE floppy to bootstrap a new > > DPT based system. However, sysinstall hangs after newfs'ing the > > filesystems. > > > > I'm using a 21GB array, with auto-defaults for the filesystems, so /usr > > is over 20GB in size. If I delete /usr and replace it with a 500MB > > filesystem, leaving the remaining space unallocated, sysinstall has no > > problem completing the newfs step. > > > > Anyone else had problems with sysinstall on a mid-sized array like > > this? > > Yup. Me :-) > But not on 3.0-current. I noticed that 2.2 does not like huge partitions, > but this is not consnstent. > > Simon This has me a bit nervous. This July I will be implementing an NFS server with a 60GB DTP-based array. My plan has been to use 2.2-stable... but perhaps 3.0-current is my only choice? Is this -stable problem understood, with a fix coming any time soon? Any other concerns that I should be sweating about as I'm planning on building an array of this size? (and it will probably double in size the following summer) Thanks, --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles N. Owens Email: owensc@enc.edu http://www.enc.edu/~owensc Network & Systems Administrator Information Technology Services "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's Eastern Nazarene College best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 22 13:42:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12749 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 May 1998 13:42:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (passer.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.110.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12477; Fri, 22 May 1998 13:40:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cschuber@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.8/8.6.10) id NAA15662; Fri, 22 May 1998 13:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805222039.NAA15662@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca> Received: from localhost(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "passer.osg.gov.bc.ca" via SMTP by localhost, id smtpdaaowwa; Fri May 22 13:39:34 1998 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 Reply-to: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: cschuber To: Billy Thompson cc: Frank Pawlak , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD A Solution For Business In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 22 May 1998 11:07:38 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 13:38:43 -0700 From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > I think what is absolutely necessary to this would be a graph comparison > between Win NT and FreeBSD. Start with a lite load then keep pushing it > up until both systems are crawling. This would demostrate not only how > reliable FreeBSD is on the SAME hardware, but also how much better it is > (since I'm sure there will be obviously better performance from FreeBSD). You'd probably want to throw Linux into the mix too... > > Then plaster this on as many websites as you can and include it in the > business solutions document. You know how much pointy haired bosses love > graphs and charts, and this should show them in simple terms that FreeBSD > has better preformance and is more reliable. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: cschuber@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Government of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 22 14:38:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23648 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 May 1998 14:38:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kaori.communique.net (kaori.communique.net [204.27.67.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA23477; Fri, 22 May 1998 14:38:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rzig@verio.net) Received: by kaori.communique.net with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Fri, 22 May 1998 16:36:57 -0500 Message-ID: From: Raul Zighelboim To: "'Charles Owens'" , Simon Shapiro Cc: Tom , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: DPT install problem Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 16:36:56 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk My 0.02 cents: I did not installed FreeBSd on a DPT controller, but with an Adaptec controller. Nevertheless, I have a DPT controller on a system with a large fs (71780140 1K blocks). The system works, works well and has been up for 4 days as a very busy usenet news spool directory. This is running 2.2-RELENG from last sunday. As a sidebar; the DOS configuration software can only create arrays with up to 1 mbyte interleave. Is this a limitation on the hardware or the software ? Is (will there be) a way to create an array with a larger interleave (32 megs comes to mind). Thanks, Simon, for a job well done. ================================================== Raul Zighelboim rzig@verio.net > -----Original Message----- > From: Charles Owens [SMTP:owensc@enc.edu] > Sent: Friday, May 22, 1998 2:43 PM > To: Simon Shapiro > Cc: Tom; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RE: DPT install problem > > On Fri, 22 May 1998, Simon Shapiro wrote: > > > > > On 21-May-98 Tom wrote: > > > > > > I'm trying to use the boot-dpt 2.2.6-RELEASE floppy to bootstrap > a new > > > DPT based system. However, sysinstall hangs after newfs'ing the > > > filesystems. > > > > > > I'm using a 21GB array, with auto-defaults for the filesystems, > so /usr > > > is over 20GB in size. If I delete /usr and replace it with a > 500MB > > > filesystem, leaving the remaining space unallocated, sysinstall > has no > > > problem completing the newfs step. > > > > > > Anyone else had problems with sysinstall on a mid-sized array > like > > > this? > > > > Yup. Me :-) > > But not on 3.0-current. I noticed that 2.2 does not like huge > partitions, > > but this is not consnstent. > > > > Simon > > This has me a bit nervous. This July I will be implementing an NFS > server > with a 60GB DTP-based array. My plan has been to use 2.2-stable... > but > perhaps 3.0-current is my only choice? Is this -stable problem > understood, with a fix coming any time soon? > > Any other concerns that I should be sweating about as I'm planning on > building an array of this size? (and it will probably double in size > the > following summer) > > Thanks, > --- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > Charles N. Owens Email: > owensc@enc.edu > > http://www.enc.edu/~owensc > Network & Systems Administrator > Information Technology Services "Outside of a dog, a book is a > man's > Eastern Nazarene College best friend. Inside of a dog it's > too dark to read." - Groucho Marx > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 22 15:36:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA05151 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 May 1998 15:36:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05093; Fri, 22 May 1998 15:36:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dag-erli@ifi.uio.no) Received: from hrotti.ifi.uio.no (2602@hrotti.ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.15]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with ESMTP id AAA22808; Sat, 23 May 1998 00:35:57 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from dag-erli@localhost) by hrotti.ifi.uio.no ; Sat, 23 May 1998 00:35:57 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: CPU identification Organization: University of Oslo, Department of Informatics X-url: http://www.stud.ifi.uio.no/~dag-erli/ X-Stop-Spam: http://www.cauce.org From: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling Coidan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= ) Date: 23 May 1998 00:35:56 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 6 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I've added submodel identification for both 586-class and 686-class CPUs. Could you please check your dmesg after your next build and yell if something looks wrong? -- Noone else has a .sig like this one. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 22 15:41:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA06087 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 May 1998 15:41:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gamma.aei.ca (root@gamma.aei.ca [206.123.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA06057; Fri, 22 May 1998 15:41:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from malartre@aei.ca) Received: from aei.ca (kaput@aeiusrD-15.aei.ca [206.186.204.165]) by gamma.aei.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA15324; Fri, 22 May 1998 18:40:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3565FEF1.926A1A00@aei.ca> Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 18:40:49 -0400 From: Malartre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group CC: Billy Thompson , Frank Pawlak , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD A Solution For Business References: <199805222039.NAA15662@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk To much cross posting... I receive 3 time a letter if not 4. go on chat@freebsd.org... Malartre -- -------------------------------------------------- malartre@aei.ca ICQ #4224434 www.aei.ca/~malartre/ Unix FreeBSD-2.2.6 -------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 22 16:17:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA11141 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 May 1998 16:17:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sendero.simon-shapiro.org (sendero.simon-shapiro.org.142.69.207.in-addr.arpa [207.69.142.25] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA11113 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 16:17:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shimon@sendero.simon-shapiro.org) Received: (qmail 4104 invoked by uid 1000); 23 May 1998 00:18:15 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 20:18:15 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Organization: The Simon Shapiro Foundation From: Simon Shapiro To: Tom Subject: RE: DPT install problem Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On 22-May-98 Tom wrote: > > On Fri, 22 May 1998, Simon Shapiro wrote: > >> >> On 21-May-98 Tom wrote: >> > >> > I'm trying to use the boot-dpt 2.2.6-RELEASE floppy to bootstrap a >> > new >> > DPT based system. However, sysinstall hangs after newfs'ing the >> > filesystems. >> > >> > I'm using a 21GB array, with auto-defaults for the filesystems, so >> > /usr >> > is over 20GB in size. If I delete /usr and replace it with a 500MB >> > filesystem, leaving the remaining space unallocated, sysinstall has no >> > problem completing the newfs step. >> > >> > Anyone else had problems with sysinstall on a mid-sized array like >> > this? >> >> Yup. Me :-) >> But not on 3.0-current. I noticed that 2.2 does not like huge >> partitions, >> but this is not consnstent. > > Yes, it seems to be a sysinstall interaction. If I leave the space > unallocated, and then disklabel and newfs it later, it works fine. > > Currently it is pretty hard to bootstrap a new DPT system. You have to > be able to build a kernel somewhere else as sysinstall will install a > non-DPT kernel, and you can't use sysinstall to allocate large DPT > partitions. I fear for the new user. [ I am dropping the cross-post to SCSI as it is not a SCSI issue ] I agree, but I do virtually most of my new installs on 3.0 and with filesystems of 4GB or smaller. Some 16GB filesystems seem to work fine. It may very well be that the problem is in the fact that the swap device may or may not be activated at the time of newfs. Does anyone know the answer to this question? Simon --- Sincerely Yours, Simon Shapiro Shimon@Simon-Shapiro.ORG 770.265.7340 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 22 16:22:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12479 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 May 1998 16:22:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sendero.simon-shapiro.org (sendero.simon-shapiro.org.142.69.207.in-addr.arpa [207.69.142.25] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA12430 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 16:22:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shimon@sendero.simon-shapiro.org) Received: (qmail 4153 invoked by uid 1000); 23 May 1998 00:23:33 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199805221824.LAA01141@dingo.cdrom.com> Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 20:23:33 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Organization: The Simon Shapiro Foundation From: Simon Shapiro To: Mike Smith Subject: Re: DPT install problem Cc: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Tom Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On 22-May-98 Mike Smith wrote: >> >> >> Currently it is pretty hard to bootstrap a new DPT system. You have >> to >> be able to build a kernel somewhere else as sysinstall will install a >> non-DPT kernel, and you can't use sysinstall to allocate large DPT >> partitions. I fear for the new user. > > New users are less than likely to be presented with such a situation. > > However, there are a couple of things that you personally (and other > concerned users) can do to help the situation. > > - Contribute commentary (as you have), documentation and source/ > procedural fixes. Remeber that FreeBSD is a volunteer project - > your support means that it will continue to improve. > - Donate a DPT controller to our testing pool so that we can test > with it. Chances are we can scrape enough disks together in one > place to meet the 20GB mark if we have one. I recently donated TWO DPT controllers and FIVE disk drives. They went to two separate FreeBSD prominent figures, but still do not add up to 20GB. I will add this sort of test to my regression testing. But, as I said, I mostly test on 3.0-current and do not see this problem there. An ajacent problem, is that fsck will fail on such filesystems. The failure mode is fsck -p in /etc/rc. It does not have, by default enough resources to run a large parallel fsck. I added the following to /etc/rc: swapon -a if [ $1x = autobootx ]; then echo Automatic reboot in progress... + ulimit -t unlimited + ulimit -f unlimited + ulimit -d unlimited + ulimit -s unlimited + ulimit -c unlimited + ulimit -m unlimited + ulimit -l unlimited fsck -p This (or its equivalent) may remove the problem from sysinstall. Simon --- Sincerely Yours, Simon Shapiro Shimon@Simon-Shapiro.ORG 770.265.7340 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 22 16:24:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12949 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 May 1998 16:24:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA12826; Fri, 22 May 1998 16:24:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 0yd1AG-00034H-00; Fri, 22 May 1998 16:23:52 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 16:23:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Raul Zighelboim cc: "'Charles Owens'" , Simon Shapiro , Tom , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: DPT install problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Fri, 22 May 1998, Raul Zighelboim wrote: > My 0.02 cents: > I did not installed FreeBSd on a DPT controller, but with an > Adaptec controller. Nevertheless, I have a DPT controller on a system > with a large fs (71780140 1K blocks). The system works, works well and > has been up for 4 days as a very busy usenet news spool directory. > This is running 2.2-RELENG from last sunday. Yes. The DPT problem is related to sysinstall. If I newfs afterwards, everythings works ok. > As a sidebar; the DOS configuration software can only create arrays with > up to 1 mbyte interleave. Is this a limitation on the hardware or the > software ? Is (will there be) a way to create an array with a larger > interleave (32 megs comes to mind). That would not be a good idea, as the controller caches by the stripe. So a 32MB stripe would allow you to cache only two stripes. It also depends on what RAID level you are using. You probably wouldn't see any benefit beyond 1MB stripes anyhow. > Thanks, Simon, for a job well done. > > ================================================== > Raul Zighelboim rzig@verio.net Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 22 16:27:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13453 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 May 1998 16:27:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13405; Fri, 22 May 1998 16:27:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02816; Fri, 22 May 1998 15:21:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805222221.PAA02816@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org cc: Mike Smith , freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Tom Subject: Re: DPT install problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 22 May 1998 20:23:33 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 15:21:57 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > > However, there are a couple of things that you personally (and other > > concerned users) can do to help the situation. > > > > - Contribute commentary (as you have), documentation and source/ > > procedural fixes. Remeber that FreeBSD is a volunteer project - > > your support means that it will continue to improve. > > - Donate a DPT controller to our testing pool so that we can test > > with it. Chances are we can scrape enough disks together in one > > place to meet the 20GB mark if we have one. > > I recently donated TWO DPT controllers and FIVE disk drives. They went to > two separate FreeBSD prominent figures, but still do not add up to 20GB. Then we need some accountability from these prominent figures. Where is their feedback on this discussion? > An ajacent problem, is that fsck will fail on such filesystems. > The failure mode is fsck -p in /etc/rc. It does not have, by default > enough resources to run a large parallel fsck. I added the following to > /etc/rc: You should update the daemon class in /etc/login.conf. Can you verify that the current settings there (/usr/src/etc/login.conf) are adequate? (Note that a normal build does not update /etc, so you may be suffering needlessly...) -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 22 16:27:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13508 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 May 1998 16:27:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA13464; Fri, 22 May 1998 16:27:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom by misery.sdf.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 0yd0jL-0005Ui-00; Fri, 22 May 1998 15:56:03 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 15:55:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom To: Charles Owens cc: Simon Shapiro , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: DPT install problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Fri, 22 May 1998, Charles Owens wrote: > On Fri, 22 May 1998, Simon Shapiro wrote: > > > > > On 21-May-98 Tom wrote: > > > > > > I'm trying to use the boot-dpt 2.2.6-RELEASE floppy to bootstrap a new > > > DPT based system. However, sysinstall hangs after newfs'ing the > > > filesystems. > > > > > > I'm using a 21GB array, with auto-defaults for the filesystems, so /usr > > > is over 20GB in size. If I delete /usr and replace it with a 500MB > > > filesystem, leaving the remaining space unallocated, sysinstall has no > > > problem completing the newfs step. > > > > > > Anyone else had problems with sysinstall on a mid-sized array like > > > this? > > > > Yup. Me :-) > > But not on 3.0-current. I noticed that 2.2 does not like huge partitions, > > but this is not consnstent. > > > > Simon > > This has me a bit nervous. This July I will be implementing an NFS server > with a 60GB DTP-based array. My plan has been to use 2.2-stable... but > perhaps 3.0-current is my only choice? Is this -stable problem > understood, with a fix coming any time soon? It is a sysinstall problem. When bootstrapinng 2.2 onto your system, leave most of the array unallocated, and disklabel and newfs it later. > Any other concerns that I should be sweating about as I'm planning on > building an array of this size? (and it will probably double in size the > following summer) Use good enclosures. > Thanks, Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 22 16:36:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA15918 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 May 1998 16:36:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sendero.simon-shapiro.org (sendero.simon-shapiro.org.142.69.207.in-addr.arpa [207.69.142.25] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA15849 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 16:36:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shimon@sendero.simon-shapiro.org) Received: (qmail 4465 invoked by uid 1000); 23 May 1998 00:37:47 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 20:37:47 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Organization: The Simon Shapiro Foundation From: Simon Shapiro To: Charles Owens Subject: RE: DPT install problem Cc: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Tom Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On 22-May-98 Charles Owens wrote: > On Fri, 22 May 1998, Simon Shapiro wrote: > >> >> On 21-May-98 Tom wrote: >> > >> > I'm trying to use the boot-dpt 2.2.6-RELEASE floppy to bootstrap a >> > new >> > DPT based system. However, sysinstall hangs after newfs'ing the >> > filesystems. >> > >> > I'm using a 21GB array, with auto-defaults for the filesystems, so >> > /usr >> > is over 20GB in size. If I delete /usr and replace it with a 500MB >> > filesystem, leaving the remaining space unallocated, sysinstall has no >> > problem completing the newfs step. >> > >> > Anyone else had problems with sysinstall on a mid-sized array like >> > this? >> >> Yup. Me :-) >> But not on 3.0-current. I noticed that 2.2 does not like huge >> partitions, >> but this is not consnstent. >> >> Simon > > This has me a bit nervous. This July I will be implementing an NFS > server > with a 60GB DTP-based array. My plan has been to use 2.2-stable... but > perhaps 3.0-current is my only choice? Is this -stable problem > understood, with a fix coming any time soon? Relax. It is not so bad. Here is what you do: a. Install your core system, avoiding any single file system (slice) larger than about 4GB. b. Boot the system and use disklabel -e, etc. to create the really large filesystems. c. Modify /etc/rc as per my previous post. d. Call me if there are any more problems. > Any other concerns that I should be sweating about as I'm planning on > building an array of this size? (and it will probably double in size the > following summer) Yes. Fsck on such a filesystem is a bit slower. Not too many people actually tested the filesystem code, overflowing 32bit addresses. Backup of such a partition may be interesting too. > > Thanks, > --- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Charles N. Owens Email: owensc@enc.edu > http://www.enc.edu/~owensc > Network & Systems Administrator > Information Technology Services "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's > Eastern Nazarene College best friend. Inside of a dog it's > too dark to read." - Groucho Marx > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- Sincerely Yours, Simon Shapiro Shimon@Simon-Shapiro.ORG 770.265.7340 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 22 16:45:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA18162 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 May 1998 16:45:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA18144 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 16:45:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom by misery.sdf.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 0yd10q-0005Vm-00; Fri, 22 May 1998 16:14:08 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 16:14:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom To: Simon Shapiro cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: DPT install problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Fri, 22 May 1998, Simon Shapiro wrote: > > I agree, but I do virtually most of my new installs on 3.0 and with > filesystems of 4GB or smaller. Some 16GB filesystems seem to work fine. > > It may very well be that the problem is in the fact that the swap device > may or may not be activated at the time of newfs. Does anyone know the > answer to this question? I'm pretty sure swap is enabled at that point. It is doesn't seem like an out of memory issue, becuase I would expect newfs to die with an error. Also, newfs seems to run to completion (prints a new line after the last line of sector numbers). > Simon Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 22 18:13:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA04866 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 May 1998 18:13:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA04843; Fri, 22 May 1998 18:13:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom by misery.sdf.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 0yd2NP-0005a4-00; Fri, 22 May 1998 17:41:31 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 17:41:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom To: Eivind Eklund cc: Simon Shapiro , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DPT install problem In-Reply-To: <19980522213111.03467@follo.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Fri, 22 May 1998, Eivind Eklund wrote: > On Fri, May 22, 1998 at 10:41:41AM -0700, Tom wrote: > > Yes, it seems to be a sysinstall interaction. If I leave the space > > unallocated, and then disklabel and newfs it later, it works fine. > > > > Currently it is pretty hard to bootstrap a new DPT system. You have to > > be able to build a kernel somewhere else as sysinstall will install a > > non-DPT kernel, and you can't use sysinstall to allocate large DPT > > partitions. I fear for the new user. > > sysinstall doesn't do this anymore. The DPT driver is activated as > part of the standard sysinstall now. I've noticed that. But this won't help anyone until 2.2.7 is released, or somone makes a 2.2.6 snapshot with the new GENERIC kernel. > As for large arrays: I think that will have to be left to you that > actually have those large arrays - it is kind of difficult for us > others to find out where the problem is. I suspect libdisk might be > the culprit; it interact with the slice code using different IOCTLs > than disklabel, IIRC. So you think that sysinstall makes a bogus label? Remember, sysinstall hangs basically right after newfs'ing the large filesystem. Either newfs hangs while cleaning up, or something that sysinstall does after newfs'ing all the filesystems hangs. Another interesting tibbit, is that sysinstall seems to be generating once a second disk i/o requests during this hung state. Could be stuck in loop. > Eivind. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri May 22 18:19:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA06191 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 22 May 1998 18:19:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gjp.erols.com (root@alex-va-n008c243.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA06181 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 18:19:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (gjp@localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA21803 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 21:19:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Releng 2.2.6 and P2-266 Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 21:19:18 -0400 Message-ID: <21799.895886358@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm trying to install 2.2.6 onto an ASUS P2L97 motherboard with a 2940AU and a 266MHz PII and running into problems. It get so far through the install then panics. Trying to boot the resulting install fails just after it tries mounting the root filesystem with a kernel pagefault. Before I go trying to debug this, anyone else seen this or got any hints? Trying to debug a system which won't boot is going to be insteresting :( Thanks, Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 23 04:57:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA14021 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 May 1998 04:57:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [194.93.177.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA13969 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 04:56:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA00632; Sat, 23 May 1998 14:56:11 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Message-ID: <19980523145611.A593@ucb.crimea.ua> Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 14:56:11 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: =?koi8-r?Q?Dag-Erling_Coidan_Sm=F8rgrav?= , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CPU identification Mail-Followup-To: =?koi8-r?Q?Dag-Erling_Coidan_Sm=F8rgrav?= , stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91i In-Reply-To: =?koi8-r?Q?=3Cxzp67iygchf=2Efsf=40hrotti=2Eifi=2Euio=2Eno=3E=3B_from_Dag?= =?koi8-r?Q?-Erling_Coidan_Sm=F8rgrav__on_Sat=2C_May_23=2C_1998_at_12:35:?= =?koi8-r?Q?56AM_+0200?= X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Sat, May 23, 1998 at 12:35:56AM +0200, Dag-Erling Coidan Smørgrav wrote: > I've added submodel identification for both 586-class and 686-class > CPUs. Could you please check your dmesg after your next build and yell > if something looks wrong? All's Ok: Copyright (c) 1992-1998 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE #0: Sat May 23 14:13:15 EEST 1998 root@relay.ucb.crimea.ua:/usr/src/sys/compile/CHYRO CPU: Pentium Pro (198.67-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x619 Stepping=9 Features=0xfbff -- Ruslan Ermilov System Administrator ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank +380-652-247647 Simferopol, Crimea 2426679 ICQ Network, UIN To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 23 06:57:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA28273 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 May 1998 06:57:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.kersur.net (root@mail.kersur.net [199.79.199.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA28251 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 06:57:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dswartz@druber.com) Received: from manticore (manticore.druber.com [207.180.95.108]) by mail.kersur.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA18279 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 09:58:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980523095658.00924920@mail.kersur.net> X-Sender: druber@mail.kersur.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 09:56:58 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Dan Swartzendruber Subject: make buildworld/installworld question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Until now, when I've been updating, I been doing like the "Making the world" your own tutorial on www.freebsd.org. I.e. for the build server, going to single-user mode, doing make buildworld, make installworld, building a new kernel and rebooting. For the clients, going single-user, mounting /usr/src and /usr/obj via NFS and doing make reinstall. Here's my question: do I really need to go single-user? It makes the downtime significantly greater (particularly for the build server). Will Bad Things happen if I do the make installworld on a live box? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 23 08:01:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA25811 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 May 1998 08:01:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (castles219.castles.com [208.214.165.219]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA25375; Sat, 23 May 1998 07:59:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@antipodes.cdrom.com) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antipodes.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA00401; Sat, 23 May 1998 06:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805231355.GAA00401@antipodes.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Tom cc: Eivind Eklund , Simon Shapiro , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DPT install problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 22 May 1998 17:41:23 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 06:55:45 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > sysinstall doesn't do this anymore. The DPT driver is activated as > > part of the standard sysinstall now. > > I've noticed that. But this won't help anyone until 2.2.7 is released, > or somone makes a 2.2.6 snapshot with the new GENERIC kernel. ftp://releng22.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/2.2-980511-SNAP > Another interesting tibbit, is that sysinstall seems to be generating > once a second disk i/o requests during this hung state. Could be stuck in > loop. What's on the debug console? Have you wound the debugging up? -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 23 08:38:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA00747 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 May 1998 08:38:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dreamer.dreamfire.net (dreamfire.net [209.160.21.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA00735 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 08:38:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sean@dreamfire.net) Received: (qmail 906 invoked from network); 23 May 1998 15:38:25 -0000 Received: from dreamfire.net (HELO dreamer.dreamfire.net) (209.160.21.220) by dreamfire.net with SMTP; 23 May 1998 15:38:25 -0000 Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 08:38:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean-Paul Rees To: Dan Swartzendruber cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make buildworld/installworld question In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980523095658.00924920@mail.kersur.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Sat, 23 May 1998, Dan Swartzendruber wrote: > > Until now, when I've been updating, I been doing like the "Making the world" > your own tutorial on www.freebsd.org. I.e. for the build server, going to > single-user mode, doing make buildworld, make installworld, building a new > kernel and rebooting. For the clients, going single-user, mounting /usr/src > and /usr/obj via NFS and doing make reinstall. Here's my question: do I > really need to go single-user? It makes the downtime significantly greater > (particularly for the build server). Will Bad Things happen if I do the > make installworld on a live box? You can, but it will go slower. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > - -Sean-Paul Rees sean@dreamfire.net, SR5176 =============================================== = Sean-Paul Rees = Dream Fire Networks = = sean@dreamfire.net = Dream Fire Consulting = = = = "Marking your achievements, and improving = = upon them is better than any award anybody = = will bestow." -Sean-Paul Rees = =============================================== sig updated: 5/20/1998 Type bits/keyID Date User ID pub 2047/EF18B3ED 1998/04/11 Sean-Paul Rees -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNWbtb7Du0TvvGLPtAQGwMgf+IXc2AT+/hjNw/tbynkuNgvdI38eLQd6Q Zy1ytDD4uV4Q8fHSdo0bPInVCZuHr3YgtA7bY4gly3bJ/vMJA8tJPIvER0/W6/7o MAkhzT0OFrSl8Iii0gAwowuX8W/UROCzfjmLwEejXakHpBd1G0tb4PpfsrTlVCDi p0MSuOf9RUdCOkq55n2evHz60GoEiE9083qW1oJc46C35n6OcEVZxzEycfrtRQxA z81JHJ05jgLq8my7QkyqgShd9utqWtkU+7odlM41XH9G9OTLYjo2XNi3k3FyEjcA 6C0XirpbYigoHHYdMjyRDQuQ/jH7yQUtRIusgTPGDNcM1hOjHQOhtw== =xIWO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 23 08:48:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA02656 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 May 1998 08:48:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.kersur.net (root@mail.kersur.net [199.79.199.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA02651 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 08:48:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dswartz@druber.com) Received: from manticore (manticore.druber.com [207.180.95.108]) by mail.kersur.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA22232; Sat, 23 May 1998 11:49:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980523114803.009329a0@mail.kersur.net> X-Sender: druber@mail.kersur.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 11:48:03 -0400 To: Sean-Paul Rees From: Dan Swartzendruber Subject: Re: make buildworld/installworld question Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.5.32.19980523095658.00924920@mail.kersur.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk At 08:38 AM 5/23/98 -0700, Sean-Paul Rees wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >On Sat, 23 May 1998, Dan Swartzendruber wrote: > >> >> Until now, when I've been updating, I been doing like the "Making the world" >> your own tutorial on www.freebsd.org. I.e. for the build server, going to >> single-user mode, doing make buildworld, make installworld, building a new >> kernel and rebooting. For the clients, going single-user, mounting /usr/src >> and /usr/obj via NFS and doing make reinstall. Here's my question: do I >> really need to go single-user? It makes the downtime significantly greater >> (particularly for the build server). Will Bad Things happen if I do the >> make installworld on a live box? > >You can, but it will go slower. that's okay. I just want to make sure it won't pooch things. the server in question is a 30-minute drive from where I am right now, and getting out there is not feasible right now. Thanks for the answer! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 23 09:18:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07439 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 May 1998 09:18:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com (mvh@netcom20.netcom.com [192.100.81.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA07424 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 09:18:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvh@netcom.com) Received: (from mvh@localhost) by netcom1.netcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02985; Sat, 23 May 1998 09:18:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvh) Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 09:18:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199805231618.JAA02985@netcom1.netcom.com> From: "Michael V. Harding" To: dswartz@druber.com CC: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <3.0.5.32.19980523095658.00924920@mail.kersur.net> (message from Dan Swartzendruber on Sat, 23 May 1998 09:56:58 -0400) Subject: Re: make buildworld/installworld question References: <3.0.5.32.19980523095658.00924920@mail.kersur.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I've been doing this for a while now - since that added the buildworld and installworld client, I have been able to do this. Building 'world' as a single target used to hang sometimes. First time, though, I would try doing 'make installworld' in multi-user mode and then dropping to single user mode to finish. Then your downtime is probably 15 minutes at most. X-Sender: druber@mail.kersur.net Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 09:56:58 -0400 From: Dan Swartzendruber Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-UIDL: 21b2bd02877cc2bd7f1fb6f7b14b1e21 Until now, when I've been updating, I been doing like the "Making the world" your own tutorial on www.freebsd.org. I.e. for the build server, going to single-user mode, doing make buildworld, make installworld, building a new kernel and rebooting. For the clients, going single-user, mounting /usr/src and /usr/obj via NFS and doing make reinstall. Here's my question: do I really need to go single-user? It makes the downtime significantly greater (particularly for the build server). Will Bad Things happen if I do the make installworld on a live box? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 23 11:11:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13173 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 May 1998 11:11:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from GndRsh.aac.dev.com (GndRsh.aac.dev.com [207.149.232.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13004; Sat, 23 May 1998 11:11:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rgrimes@GndRsh.aac.dev.com) Received: (from rgrimes@localhost) by GndRsh.aac.dev.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25906; Sat, 23 May 1998 11:11:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rgrimes) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199805231811.LAA25906@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> Subject: Re: Releng 2.2.6 and P2-266 In-Reply-To: <21799.895886358@gjp.erols.com> from Gary Palmer at "May 22, 98 09:19:18 pm" To: gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG (Gary Palmer) Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 11:11:06 -0700 (PDT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > > Hi, > > I'm trying to install 2.2.6 onto an ASUS P2L97 motherboard with a > 2940AU and a 266MHz PII and running into problems. It get so far > through the install then panics. Trying to boot the resulting install > fails just after it tries mounting the root filesystem with a kernel > pagefault. > > Before I go trying to debug this, anyone else seen this or got any > hints? Trying to debug a system which won't boot is going to be > insteresting :( I have seen this type of behavior lots of times, on different configurations and it usually ends up being a memory system problem or a flakey motherboard. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Accurate Automation, Inc. Reliable computers for FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 23 15:15:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10534 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 May 1998 15:15:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10455 for ; Sat, 23 May 1998 15:15:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: from localhost (fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA06943; Sat, 23 May 1998 17:14:53 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 17:14:53 -0500 (CDT) From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Dan Swartzendruber cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make buildworld/installworld question In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980523095658.00924920@mail.kersur.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Sat, 23 May 1998, Dan Swartzendruber wrote: > > Until now, when I've been updating, I been doing like the "Making the world" > your own tutorial on www.freebsd.org. I.e. for the build server, going to > single-user mode, doing make buildworld, make installworld, building a new > kernel and rebooting. For the clients, going single-user, mounting /usr/src > and /usr/obj via NFS and doing make reinstall. Here's my question: do I > really need to go single-user? It makes the downtime significantly greater > (particularly for the build server). Will Bad Things happen if I do the > make installworld on a live box? Doing a buildworld on a live machine is no problem, since it doesn't really change anything. It'll slow down the rest of the machine a good bit, but other than that, it doesn't have any real affects. It's probably not the best idea to do an installworld on a machine when it's working too much, but if it's fairly quiet, there's no real problems. All the machines here we do an installworld off a central build server, so they go down just long enough to reboot. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | FreeBSD; the way computers were meant to be | * "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is * | that I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet."| * fullermd@futuresouth.com :-} MAtthew Fuller * | http://keystone.westminster.edu/~fullermd | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 23 17:56:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA00415 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 23 May 1998 17:56:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sabre.goldsword.com (sabre.goldsword.com [199.170.202.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA00387; Sat, 23 May 1998 17:56:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfarmer@sabre.goldsword.com) Received: (from jfarmer@localhost) by sabre.goldsword.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA05828; Sat, 23 May 1998 19:43:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 19:43:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "John T. Farmer" Message-Id: <199805232343.TAA05828@sabre.goldsword.com> To: billy@idiom.com, fpawlak@execpc.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD A Solution For Business Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jfarmer@goldsword.com Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Fri, 22 May 1998 11:07:38 -0700 (PDT) Billy Thompson said: >I think what is absolutely necessary to this would be a graph comparison >between Win NT and FreeBSD. Start with a lite load then keep pushing it >up until both systems are crawling. This would demostrate not only how >reliable FreeBSD is on the SAME hardware, but also how much better it is >(since I'm sure there will be obviously better performance from FreeBSD). > >Then plaster this on as many websites as you can and include it in the >business solutions document. You know how much pointy haired bosses love >graphs and charts, and this should show them in simple terms that FreeBSD >has better preformance and is more reliable. > While I would like to see these numbers & graphs (ie, I think it's a good thing to do), Let's not for a minute think that they will contribute to changing upper managements minds. To paraphrase a quote from my younger days in the industry: "Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft..." The simple truth is that shops that would be swayed by such arguements are already running or considering running Solaris, Idrix, HPUX, Aix, etc. That is, shops that are already willing to consider a non-Microsoft solution. John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- John T. 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