From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 23 16:10:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05167 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 23 Aug 1998 16:10:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA05162 for ; Sun, 23 Aug 1998 16:10:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from harmony [10.0.0.6] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zAjGx-0005Ww-00; Sun, 23 Aug 1998 17:10:07 -0600 Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.8.8/8.8.3) with ESMTP id RAA26782; Sun, 23 Aug 1998 17:11:20 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199808232311.RAA26782@harmony.village.org> To: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling Coidan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= ) Subject: Re: Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B network collisions Cc: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" In-reply-to: Your message of "18 Aug 1998 15:45:42 -0000." References: <199808181036.MAA28563@plab.ku.dk> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 17:11:20 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Dag-Erling Coidan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= writes: : "Vadim Belman" writes: : > (~920 Kb/s on a 10 mbps connection). : : *groan* : : "920 Kelvin-bits per second on a 10 millibit per second connection". : : When will people learn to use units and SI prefixes properly? K == 1024 while k == kilo == 1000. K == 1024 is a common extention to the SI prefixes. Besides, K isn't an SI prefix, but rather a unit of measure. After all, m == milli for a prefix, but meter for a suffix. They are two different name spaces. One nit that annoys me is that people aren't always careful with kb/s and kB/s for kilo-bits per second and kilo-bytes per second respectively. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 24 01:16:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA15885 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 01:16:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sagittarius.freibergnet.de (sagittarius.freibergnet.de [194.123.255.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA15848 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 01:16:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mw@zoo.freibergnet.de) Received: from zoo.freibergnet.de (zoo.freibergnet.de [194.123.255.71]) by sagittarius.freibergnet.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA08120 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 10:16:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mw@localhost) by zoo.freibergnet.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id KAA12346 for FreeBSD-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 10:14:58 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 10:14:58 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: mw@freibergnet.de Organization: FreibergNet Liebscher & Partner Werbeagentur und XLink-PoP Freiberg From: Martin Welk To: FreeBSD-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD takes 8 years to boot up Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 23-Aug-98 Scott wrote: () > > On my 486/DX33 it took approximately 90 minutes, on my P120 it takes () > > about 6 minutes and on the P333's here at work it takes about 2 () > > minutes. () > it takes about 2 minutes on an AMD K6-233, as well, FYI () Thats rather quick. I built a K6-2/300 machine with 64MB PC100 SDRAM and () a () rather fast IDE hard disk and it took over 5 minutes. Possibly something () wrong with the system? My PII233 does it in 4 I think 90 min. for a kernel config + compile is far long. IDE disks and somewhat low memory? On my old 486DX2-80, 48 meg, VLB-SCSI I won't think it takes longer than half an hour and my 486DX2-66, 40 meg, also VLB-SCSI isn't significantly slower. (...using -O2 & -pipe as compiler options, disks not asynchronous mounted.) On my PII-300 at work, config takes about 18 sec, make depend another 30, and make kernel takes about 2 1/2 min. This is a machine with 128 MB RAM, AHA2940U, IBM DCAS 4330 (not the fastest), compiling at /usr which is not asynchronous mounted. Compiling the kernel on an asynchronous mounted disk will speed it up significant, especially on slower machines with plenty of RAM. Regards, Martin -- Liebscher & Partner Werbeagentur GbR // Martin Welk Advertising, Art Design & DTP // network administration Xlink Point Of Presence Freiberg // phone: (+49|0) 3731 781-387 Am St. Niclas Schacht 13 // fax: (+49|0) 3731 781-377 D-09599 Freiberg, Germany // http://www.freibergnet.de/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 24 05:34:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA19061 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 05:34:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Radford.i-Plus.net (Radford.i-Plus.net [208.24.67.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA19055 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 05:34:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rewt@i-Plus.net) Received: from Radford.i-Plus.net (rewt@Radford.i-Plus.net [208.24.67.15]) by Radford.i-Plus.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA10822; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 08:33:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 08:33:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Troy Settle To: Vadim Belman cc: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B network collisions In-Reply-To: <199808181036.MAA28563@plab.ku.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, Vadim Belman wrote: > Hello, > > after having heard so many positive opinions about the > network card in , we decided to give it a try on > our new FreeBSD 2.2.7 machine (previously we used > 3COM 905 TP for all of ours FreeBSD boxes). > > Surprisingly, we found that Intel board produces a _huge_ > number of network collisions, almost for every output > packet. > > The strange thing is that we anyhow had a terrific > transfer rate - absolutely the same as with 3COMs > (~920 Kb/s on a 10 mbps connection). > > It is definitely a problem with the card, for we have also > tried 3COM on the same machine, with predictable zero number > of collisions. There is quite likely that this is not a problem > with a particular Intel card, for we have also tried another one Check your configuration on the card and switch. Surely there's something screwed up there. This card has performed *very* well for me since the day I put it in. Here's what netstat shows me after 40 days uptime (reformatted): Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll fxp0 1500 00.a0.c9.c7.3a.09 57849557 0 41586785 1 0 -- Troy Settle Network Administrator, iPlus Internet Services http://www.i-Plus.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 24 07:37:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA03761 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 07:37:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.119.24.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA03714 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 07:37:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA04365; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 14:34:43 GMT Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id QAA23076; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 16:34:28 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19980824163424.30163@follo.net> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 16:34:24 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund To: Mike Smith , Sue Blake Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Coidan_Sm=F8rgrav?= , Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , "Daniel O'Connor" , "Jeff W." , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD takes 8 years to boot up References: <19980823010133.43922@welearn.com.au> <199808221709.RAA20160@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <199808221709.RAA20160@dingo.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Sat, Aug 22, 1998 at 05:09:04PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Aug 22, 1998 at 05:09:04PM +0000, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > So do you mean that on my overworked 386 with 8 megs RAM and not much > > swap I might as well use GENERIC and save the hassle of building special > > anorexic kernels? If the difference is marginal, that changes everything. > > Do the comparisons yourself and make up your own mind. Apart from > maxusers being too small, GENERIC tries very hard to be > one-size-fits-all. What's the rationale for keeping it that small? It doesn't fit almost any use... I'd at least like to raise it enough to make for a decent X-workstation - to 50 or thereabouts. Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 24 10:22:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01098 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 10:22:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xylan.com (postal.xylan.com [208.8.0.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01088 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 10:22:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from mailhub.xylan.com by xylan.com (8.8.7/SMI-SVR4 (xylan-mgw 2.1 [OUT])) id KAA14602; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 10:23:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from utah.XYLAN.COM by mailhub.xylan.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (mailhub 2.1 [HUB])) id KAA13846; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 10:20:21 -0700 Received: from softweyr.com by utah.XYLAN.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (xylan utah [SPOOL])) id LAA16310; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 11:20:20 -0600 Message-ID: <35E1A0D4.E7222B65@softweyr.com> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 11:20:20 -0600 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott CC: Dexnation Holodream , FreeBSD-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD takes 8 years to boot up References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Scott wrote: > > On Sat, 22 Aug 1998, Dexnation Holodream wrote: > > > On Fri, 21 Aug 1998, Cy Schubert wrote: > > > > > > Recompiling the kernel on anything above P150 is a matter of a couple > > > > of minutes at most if you use the '-n' option to config (but remember > > > > to always make depend!) The advantages are quicker booting and a > > > > smaller memory footprint. > > > > > > On my 486/DX33 it took approximately 90 minutes, on my P120 it takes > > > about 6 minutes and on the P333's here at work it takes about 2 minutes. > > > > > it takes about 2 minutes on an AMD K6-233, as well, FYI > > Thats rather quick. I built a K6-2/300 machine with 64MB PC100 SDRAM and a > rather fast IDE hard disk and it took over 5 minutes. Possibly something > wrong with the system? My PII233 does it in 4 > I get about 2:05 - 2:10 on a K6/233, 64 MB SDRAM and Fujitsu Ultra (3.2 Gb) drive. Perhaps your kernel is considerably larger than ours, or you've updated your installation since 2.0 days and now have a seriously fragmented /usr volume? This machine had 2.2.6 freshly installed when it was new, about 4 months ago. This is getting kind of off-topic, should we move and/or re-Subj it? -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.softweyr.com/~softweyr wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 24 12:03:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18229 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 12:03:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phluffy.lm.com (phluffy.lm.com [204.171.44.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18224 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 12:03:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from myke@ees.com) Received: from localhost (myke@localhost) by phluffy.lm.com (8.9.0/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA11464 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 15:02:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from myke@ees.com) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 15:02:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Holling X-Sender: myke@phluffy.lm.com To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Making a local FreeBSD distribution? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a machine tracking -stable, and use it to keep other machines in synch. I now have several new machines that don't have anything installed on them yet. Rather than installing a SNAP or an older version from CD and then upgrading to stable, I'd like to netinstall locally from the -stable server. I tried "make release" in /usr/src/release with various arguments, but it seems to keep looking for CVSROOT. Is there any documentation on now to roll a release other than the somewhat terse comments in the Makefile? - Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 24 12:28:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23480 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 12:28:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from versa.eng.comsat.com (versa.eng.comsat.com [134.133.169.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23386; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 12:28:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marc@versa.eng.comsat.com) Received: (from marc@localhost) by versa.eng.comsat.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) id QAA07532; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 16:21:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 16:16:22 -0400 (EDT) Organization: Comsat Mobile Communications From: Marc Giannoni To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: SMC Elite 16C Ultra interface connector selection Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi: I'm having troble with a SMC Elite 16C Ultra. I can't seem to get the thing to know what connector I want to use for the interface. These things get good press in the FAQ and Handbook, so I know it should work OK! Is there anyone who has one working on the Twisted Pair connector? How do you get it to use it? Thanks ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Marc Giannoni Date: 24-Aug-98 Time: 16:16:22 This message was sent by XF-Mail ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 24 13:29:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02076 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 13:29:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02050 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 13:29:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dag-erli@ifi.uio.no) Received: from hrotti.ifi.uio.no (2602@hrotti.ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.15]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with ESMTP id WAA15905; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 22:28:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from dag-erli@localhost) by hrotti.ifi.uio.no ; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 22:28:57 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Holling Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Making a local FreeBSD distribution? References: Organization: University of Oslo, Department of Informatics X-url: http://www.stud.ifi.uio.no/~dag-erli/ X-other-addresses: 'finger dag-erli@ifi.uio.no' for a list X-disclaimer-1: The views expressed in this article are mine alone, and do X-disclaimer-2: not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or X-disclaimer-3: company with which I am or have been affiliated. X-Stop-Spam: http://www.cauce.org/ From: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling Coidan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= ) Date: 24 Aug 1998 22:28:56 +0200 In-Reply-To: Mike Holling's message of "Mon, 24 Aug 1998 15:02:19 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 10 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id NAA02066 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Holling writes: > I tried "make release" in /usr/src/release with various > arguments, but it seems to keep looking for CVSROOT. You need a CVS repository, since 'make release' will try to build src tarballs as well. You could hack the Makefile to work around this. DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - dag-erli@ifi.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 24 15:17:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15082 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 15:17:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (ppp-db.dialup.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15077 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 15:17:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00619; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 15:13:50 GMT (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199808241513.PAA00619@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Eivind Eklund cc: Mike Smith , Sue Blake , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Coidan_Sm=F8rgrav?= , Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , "Daniel O'Connor" , "Jeff W." , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD takes 8 years to boot up In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 Aug 1998 16:34:24 +0200." <19980824163424.30163@follo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 15:13:48 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Sat, Aug 22, 1998 at 05:09:04PM +0000, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > > So do you mean that on my overworked 386 with 8 megs RAM and not much > > > swap I might as well use GENERIC and save the hassle of building special > > > anorexic kernels? If the difference is marginal, that changes everything. > > > > Do the comparisons yourself and make up your own mind. Apart from > > maxusers being too small, GENERIC tries very hard to be > > one-size-fits-all. > > What's the rationale for keeping it that small? It doesn't fit almost any > use... I'd at least like to raise it enough to make for a decent > X-workstation - to 50 or thereabouts. It keeps it usefully sized for small machines. If you want to raise it, make sure you tweak the release Makefile that rewrites GENERIC into BOOTMFS to tune it back down. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 24 15:42:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA18741 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 15:42:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hackerz.org (hackerz.org [209.31.146.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18728 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 15:42:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randy@hackerz.org) Received: (from randy@localhost) by hackerz.org (8.9.0/8.9.0) id SAA10612; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 18:43:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19980824184334.23594@hackerz.org> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 18:43:34 -0400 From: Charles Quarri To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Coidan_Sm=F8rgrav?= Cc: Mike Holling , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Making a local FreeBSD distribution? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=3Cxzp1zq69l9z=2Efsf=40hrotti=2Eifi=2Euio=2Eno=3E=3B_from?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_Dag-Erling_Coidan_Sm=F8rgrav__on_Mon=2C_Aug_24=2C_1998_a?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?t_10=3A28=3A56PM_+0200?= Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoting Dag-Erling Coidan Smørgrav (dag-erli@ifi.uio.no): > Mike Holling writes: > > I tried "make release" in /usr/src/release with various > > arguments, but it seems to keep looking for CVSROOT. > > You need a CVS repository, since 'make release' will try to build src > tarballs as well. You could hack the Makefile to work around this. I have been trying to generate a local release of 2.2-stable since 2.2.7 was released, and it is very broken. I have been cvsupping the CVS repository, is case you are wondering. C. Quarri To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 24 17:52:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05486 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 17:52:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA05480 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 17:52:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA02853; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 17:25:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Charles Quarri cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Coidan_Sm=F8rgrav?= , Mike Holling , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Making a local FreeBSD distribution? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 Aug 1998 18:43:34 EDT." <19980824184334.23594@hackerz.org> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 17:25:05 -0700 Message-ID: <2849.904004705@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It is not broken, it works just fine. I do it every day on releng22.freebsd.org. Please get your facts straight before engaging in unfounded speculation like this. As the DELL folks say, there is something wrong here and the diagnosis is: PEBCAK :) > Quoting Dag-Erling Coidan Smørgrav (dag-erli@ifi.uio.no): > > Mike Holling writes: > > > I tried "make release" in /usr/src/release with various > > > arguments, but it seems to keep looking for CVSROOT. > > > > You need a CVS repository, since 'make release' will try to build src > > tarballs as well. You could hack the Makefile to work around this. > > I have been trying to generate a local release of 2.2-stable since 2.2.7 > was released, and it is very broken. I have been cvsupping the CVS > repository, is case you are wondering. > > C. Quarri > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 24 17:56:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA06001 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 17:56:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phluffy.lm.com (phluffy.lm.com [204.171.44.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA05934 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 17:56:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from myke@ees.com) Received: from localhost (myke@localhost) by phluffy.lm.com (8.9.0/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA00792; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 20:55:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from myke@ees.com) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 20:55:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Holling X-Sender: myke@phluffy.lm.com To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Making a local FreeBSD distribution? In-Reply-To: <2849.904004705@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > It is not broken, it works just fine. I do it every day on > releng22.freebsd.org. Please get your facts straight before engaging > in unfounded speculation like this. As the DELL folks say, there > is something wrong here and the diagnosis is: PEBCAK Ok, so given a machine tracking -stable, what needs to be done so "make release" works? Do I need to configure my -stable box to act as a CVS repository first? - Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 24 19:11:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA14840 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 19:11:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from odyssey.apana.org.au (odyssey.apana.org.au [203.11.114.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA14835; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 19:11:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dean@mushka.ml.org) Received: from mushka (mushka.ml.org [203.11.114.10]) by odyssey.apana.org.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA12647; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:11:01 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from dean@mushka.ml.org) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980825100812.0068ff64@odyssey.apana.org.au> X-Sender: dean@odyssey.apana.org.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:08:12 +0800 To: FreeBSD Qestions From: Dean Hollister Subject: cvsup stable... Cc: FreeBSD-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hiyall, Below is an output of cvsup from a couple days ago. Is this worth a new build/install world? Regards, d. bash# cvsup stable Connected to cvsup.FreeBSD.org Updating collection src-all/cvs Edit src/contrib/top/machine.h Edit src/contrib/top/top.X Edit src/contrib/top/top.c Edit src/etc/mtree/BSD.usr.dist Edit src/etc/rc Edit src/etc/rc.pccard Edit src/gnu/usr.bin/man/catman/catman.perl Edit src/gnu/usr.bin/man/makewhatis/makewhatis.perl Edit src/gnu/usr.bin/man/manpath/manpath.c Edit src/include/unistd.h Edit src/lib/libc_r/man/pthread_cleanup_push.3 Edit src/lib/libc_r/man/pthread_cond_init.3 Edit src/lib/libc_r/man/pthread_mutex_init.3 Edit src/lib/libskey/skey.3 Edit src/release/ERRATA.TXT Edit src/release/sysinstall/help/relnotes.hlp Edit src/sbin/fsdb/fsdb.8 Edit src/sbin/fsdb/fsdb.c Edit src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.8 Edit src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.c Edit src/sbin/modload/modload.c Edit src/sbin/mount/getmntopts.3 Edit src/sbin/mount/getmntopts.c Edit src/sbin/mount/mntopts.h Edit src/sbin/mount/mount.8 Edit src/sbin/mount/mount.c Edit src/sbin/mount/mount_ufs.c Edit src/sbin/mount_ext2fs/mount_ext2fs.c Edit src/sbin/mount_nfs/mount_nfs.c Edit src/sbin/mount_null/mount_null.8 Edit src/sbin/mount_portal/pt_tcp.c Edit src/sbin/mount_umap/mount_umap.8 Edit src/sbin/mount_umap/mount_umap.c Edit src/sbin/mount_umap/umap_manual Edit src/sbin/mountd/exports.5 Edit src/sbin/mountd/mountd.c Edit src/sbin/newfs/mkfs.c Edit src/sbin/newfs/newfs.c Edit src/sbin/nfsd/nfsd.c Edit src/sbin/nfsiod/nfsiod.c Edit src/sbin/quotacheck/quotacheck.c Edit src/sbin/restore/dirs.c Edit src/sbin/restore/interactive.c Edit src/sbin/restore/restore.8 Edit src/sbin/restore/restore.c Edit src/sbin/restore/symtab.c Edit src/sbin/restore/tape.c Edit src/sbin/route/route.8 Edit src/sbin/route/route.c Edit src/sbin/routed/defs.h Edit src/sbin/routed/if.c Edit src/sbin/routed/input.c Edit src/sbin/routed/main.c Edit src/sbin/routed/output.c Edit src/sbin/routed/parms.c Edit src/sbin/routed/radix.c Edit src/sbin/routed/radix.h Edit src/sbin/routed/rdisc.c Edit src/sbin/routed/routed.8 Edit src/sbin/routed/rtquery/rtquery.8 Edit src/sbin/routed/rtquery/rtquery.c Edit src/sbin/routed/table.c Edit src/sbin/scsi/scsi.8 Edit src/sbin/scsi/scsi.c Edit src/sbin/scsiformat/scsiformat.8 Edit src/sbin/shutdown/shutdown.c Edit src/sbin/slattach/slattach.8 Edit src/sbin/slattach/slattach.c Edit src/sbin/startslip/startslip.1 Edit src/sbin/startslip/startslip.c Edit src/share/examples/cvsup/cvs-supfile Edit src/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile Edit src/share/examples/lkm/misc/module/miscmod.c Edit src/share/mk/bsd.port.mk Edit src/sys/i386/conf/LINT Edit src/sys/i386/conf/options.i386 Edit src/sys/i386/eisa/dpt_eisa.c Edit src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s Edit src/sys/i386/isa/if_cs.c Edit src/sys/i386/isa/syscons.c Edit src/sys/i386/isa/wd.c Edit src/sys/i386/isa/wdreg.h Checkout src/sys/isa/ic/esp.h Checkout src/sys/isa/ic/ns16550.h Checkout src/sys/isa/kbdio.c Checkout src/sys/isa/kbdio.h Checkout src/sys/isa/kbdtables.h Checkout src/sys/isa/syscons.c Checkout src/sys/isa/syscons.h Checkout src/sys/isa/timerreg.h Edit src/sys/kern/subr_rlist.c Edit src/sys/nfs/nfs_bio.c Edit src/sys/pc98/conf/GENERIC98 Edit src/sys/pc98/conf/options.pc98 Edit src/sys/pc98/pc98/syscons.c Edit src/sys/pc98/pc98/wd.c Edit src/sys/pci/brktree_reg.h Edit src/sys/vm/vnode_pager.c Edit src/usr.bin/at/parsetime.c Edit src/usr.bin/chpass/chpass.1 Edit src/usr.bin/chpass/chpass.h Edit src/usr.bin/chpass/edit.c Edit src/usr.bin/chpass/table.c Edit src/usr.bin/find/operator.c Edit src/usr.bin/gprof/gprof.c Edit src/usr.bin/top/machine.c Edit src/usr.bin/wall/ttymsg.c Edit src/usr.sbin/ppp/route.c Edit src/usr.sbin/pw/pw.c Edit src/usr.sbin/rtprio/rtprio.c Edit src/usr.sbin/syslogd/syslog.conf.5 Edit src/usr.sbin/syslogd/syslogd.8 Edit src/usr.sbin/syslogd/syslogd.c Edit src/usr.sbin/ypserv/yp_dnslookup.c To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 24 20:07:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA21637 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 20:07:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA21631 for ; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 20:07:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA03183; Mon, 24 Aug 1998 19:42:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Mike Holling cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Making a local FreeBSD distribution? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 Aug 1998 20:55:26 EDT." Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 19:42:02 -0700 Message-ID: <3179.904012922@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Prerequisites for building a release: 1. The CVS repository on your system, with CVSROOT pointing to it. 2. The vn device configured into your kernel. 3. Lots of free disk space (~400MB). See /usr/src/release/Makefile for details on what else needs to be set. This is also advanced class material and if you're not already fairly advanced in your knowledge of FreeBSD, it's really not something you should even be trying to use. - Jordan > > It is not broken, it works just fine. I do it every day on > > releng22.freebsd.org. Please get your facts straight before engaging > > in unfounded speculation like this. As the DELL folks say, there > > is something wrong here and the diagnosis is: PEBCAK > > Ok, so given a machine tracking -stable, what needs to be done so "make > release" works? Do I need to configure my -stable box to act as a CVS > repository first? > > - Mike > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 01:39:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA22248 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 01:39:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpha.netvision.net.il (alpha.netvision.net.il [194.90.1.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA22243 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 01:39:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ycs@netvision.net.il) Received: from netvision.net.il (RAS5-p77.hfa.netvision.net.il [62.0.147.77]) by alpha.netvision.net.il (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA09810 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 11:34:17 +0300 (IDT) Message-ID: <35E27818.73C84666@netvision.net.il> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 11:38:48 +0300 From: Yoav Cohen-Sivan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 2.2.7 and user PPP lockups Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I just made the great leap from Linux two days ago, and I am experiencing a wierd problem: I am running 2.2.7 and I set up user PPP as per the Handbook. All seems to be running fine, except that after around 15-20 minutes of being connected my entire PPP session locks up. Netscape freezes, and if I drop to an xterm and try various pings, traceroutes, etc... they lock up too. If I let the ping work for a few seconds and then ctrl-c it, I always get something like: 100 packets sent, 0 received, 100% loss. This can always be corrected by hanging up the user ppp connection, and redialing. That is, corrected for another 15-20 minutes. This is not repeatable either under Linux or NT. I don't know what other information to give, so please ask and I'll send whatever you need. Thanks, Yoav PS: Apart from this problem, I am having a _great_ time! Really nice job, this FreeBSD. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 02:18:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA27694 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 02:18:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from internal.mail.demon.net (internal.mail.demon.net [193.195.224.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA27672; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 02:18:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from darren@demon.net) Received: from office.demon.net (office.demon.net [193.195.224.1]) by internal.mail.demon.net with SMTP id KAA04966; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:17:49 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: SMC Elite 16C Ultra interface connector selection To: Marc Giannoni Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:17:48 +0100 (BST) From: Darren Byrne Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Marc Giannoni" at Aug 24, 98 04:16:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <904036668.0013634.0@office.demon.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Marc Giannoni said: > > Hi: > > I'm having troble with a SMC Elite 16C Ultra. > > I can't seem to get the thing to know what connector I want to use > for the interface. These things get good press in the FAQ and Handbook, > so I know it should work OK! Is there anyone who has one working on > the Twisted Pair connector? How do you get it to use it? Marc, If I remember correctly there is a driver / utility disk with the card with a utility called ezstart ( or something like that ) that runs under DOS. You can set the card to either auto configure which port it uses or hardwire it for a certain port. I have had trouble using the card under certain *BSD's when set to the auto option so I always hard set for a particular port. Use the ifconfig link options to switch ports if you're using the card in auto mode. Sorry if that's vague, I haven't played with the SMC cards for a while! Darren Byrne Senior Network Engineer Think I slipped the net, but I cut myself Demon Internet Limited free. I'm not loosing it, so don't forget me. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 02:34:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA00276 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 02:34:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tyree.iii.co.uk (tyree.iii.co.uk [195.89.149.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA00210 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 02:34:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@iii.co.uk) From: nik@iii.co.uk Received: from carrig.strand.iii.co.uk (carrig.strand.iii.co.uk [192.168.7.25]) by tyree.iii.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23267; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:31:38 +0100 (BST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by carrig.strand.iii.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) id KAA06234; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:30:44 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <19980825103043.A6223@iii.co.uk> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:30:43 +0100 To: Mike Holling , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Making a local FreeBSD distribution? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Mike Holling on Mon, Aug 24, 1998 at 03:02:19PM -0400 Organization: interactive investor Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Aug 24, 1998 at 03:02:19PM -0400, Mike Holling wrote: > I have a machine tracking -stable, and use it to keep other machines in > synch. I now have several new machines that don't have anything installed > on them yet. Rather than installing a SNAP or an older version from CD > and then upgrading to stable, I'd like to netinstall locally from the > -stable server. If your machines can NFS mount /usr/src and /usr/obj from the machine that's tracking -stable, you can then run 'make installworld' on the other machines, and not need to bother with needing to roll your own release. This may be preferable (it's considerably less effort). See the tutorial at for more details (question 12.5 in particular). N -- --+==[ Nik Clayton becomes Just Another Perl Contractor in 18 days. ]==+-- She's still dead. Deal with it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 03:37:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA07318 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 03:37:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pbm.bart.nl (pbm.bART.nl [194.158.168.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA07311 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 03:37:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patrick@barmentlo.net) Received: from barmentlo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pbm.bart.nl (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id MAA01115 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 12:35:57 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <35E2938C.FF576EC6@barmentlo.net> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 12:35:57 +0200 From: Patrick Barmentlo Organization: Barmentlo's net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: small ftpd question.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hai.. I have the following question: i need to know the syntax for the file '/etc/ftpusers' (what i want, is that a user to stay in his home dir during the ftp session. thanks in advange.. patrick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 04:31:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA15563 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 04:31:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from calumet.infoteam.com (calumet.infoteam.com [207.2.129.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA15558 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 04:31:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kmartin@calumet.infoteam.com) Received: (from kmartin@localhost) by calumet.infoteam.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02864; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 07:31:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199808251131.HAA02864@calumet.infoteam.com> From: "Kenn Martin" To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 07:31:44 -0400 Reply-To: "Kenn Martin" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.01.1600) For Windows 98 (4.10.1721) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: small ftpd question.. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 25 Aug 1998 12:35:57 +0200, Patrick Barmentlo wrote: >I have the following question: > >i need to know the syntax for the file '/etc/ftpusers' > >(what i want, is that a user to stay in his home dir during the ftp >session. You want the file '/etc/ftpchroot'; one userid per line. kenn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 05:21:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA20358 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 05:21:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from SchematiX.net (schematix.net [24.234.31.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA20353 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 05:21:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@SchematiX.net) Received: from localhost (scott@localhost) by SchematiX.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA01738; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 05:18:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@SchematiX.net) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 05:18:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott To: Yoav Cohen-Sivan cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.7 and user PPP lockups In-Reply-To: <35E27818.73C84666@netvision.net.il> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Check the timeout portion of the ppp.conf file. Its possible that you are hitting the time limit and its booting you off. Just make sure timeout is set to 0. On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, Yoav Cohen-Sivan wrote: > Hi, > > I just made the great leap from Linux two days ago, and I am > experiencing a wierd problem: I am running 2.2.7 and I set up user PPP > as per the Handbook. All seems to be running fine, except that after > around 15-20 minutes of being connected my entire PPP session locks up. > Netscape freezes, and if I drop to an xterm and try various pings, > traceroutes, etc... they lock up too. If I let the ping work for a few > seconds and then ctrl-c it, I always get something like: 100 packets > sent, 0 received, 100% loss. > > This can always be corrected by hanging up the user ppp connection, and > redialing. That is, corrected for another 15-20 minutes. > > This is not repeatable either under Linux or NT. > > I don't know what other information to give, so please ask and I'll send > whatever you need. > > Thanks, > Yoav > > PS: Apart from this problem, I am having a _great_ time! Really nice > job, this FreeBSD. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 06:15:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA25209 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 06:15:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pacs04.infoave.net (pacs04.InfoAve.Net [165.166.0.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA25203 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 06:15:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mcneills@inw.net) Received: from mcneills ("port 4572"@[207.2.103.75]) by InfoAve.Net (PMDF V5.1-10 #23426) with SMTP id <01J10K8QI0D8972HJS@InfoAve.Net> for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 09:12:47 EDT Received: by mcneills (VPOP3 - Unregistered) with SMTP; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:16:35 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:14:26 -0500 From: Denny Reiter Subject: Re: 2.2.7 and user PPP lockups To: Scott Cc: Yoav Cohen-Sivan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <35E2B8B2.66B09E75@inw.net> Organization: McNeill sphalt Company MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b1 [en] (WinNT; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en X-Server: VPOP3 V1.2.5 Unregistered References: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Scott wrote: > > Check the timeout portion of the ppp.conf file. Its possible that you are > hitting the time limit and its booting you off. Just make sure timeout is > set to 0. > > On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, Yoav Cohen-Sivan wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I just made the great leap from Linux two days ago, and I am > > experiencing a wierd problem: I am running 2.2.7 and I set up user PPP > > as per the Handbook. All seems to be running fine, except that after > > around 15-20 minutes of being connected my entire PPP session locks up. Hmm, I've been seeing this also, but was chalking it up to either the modem being flaky (I just installed it, a USR Sportster 33.6 Int) or my ISP since they are about to do an upgrade. I haven't been able to find a rhyme or reason for it. If I disconnect PPP and redial, that fixes it, and usually it stays fixed. I've got my timeout set to 0 from 8am-4pm, and 15 minutes the rest of the day. Regards, Denny Reiter denny@kewanee.net ------------------------- www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 06:48:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA29694 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 06:48:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nickelbag.b00m.org ([199.105.68.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA29688 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 06:48:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oghost@nickelbag.b00m.org) Received: (qmail 1383 invoked by uid 13909); 25 Aug 1998 13:45:59 -0000 From: "Ben Grubin" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13794.49175.270508.933524@nickelbag.b00m.org> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 09:45:59 -0400 (EDT) To: Denny Reiter Cc: Scott , Yoav Cohen-Sivan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.7 and user PPP lockups In-Reply-To: <35E2B8B2.66B09E75@inw.net> References: <35E2B8B2.66B09E75@inw.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.59 under Emacs 20.2.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've seen this type of behaviour occur when your provider has an idle timeout set on the remote side. Try setting up a keep-alive (ping script or a web page that auto-reloads every so often) and seeing if the problem continues. Cheers, Ben Denny Reiter writes: > Scott wrote: > > > > Check the timeout portion of the ppp.conf file. Its possible that you are > > hitting the time limit and its booting you off. Just make sure timeout is > > set to 0. > > > > On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, Yoav Cohen-Sivan wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I just made the great leap from Linux two days ago, and I am > > > experiencing a wierd problem: I am running 2.2.7 and I set up user PPP > > > as per the Handbook. All seems to be running fine, except that after > > > around 15-20 minutes of being connected my entire PPP session locks up. > > Hmm, > > I've been seeing this also, but was chalking it up to either the modem > being flaky (I just installed it, a USR Sportster 33.6 Int) or my ISP > since they are about to do an upgrade. > > I haven't been able to find a rhyme or reason for it. If I disconnect > PPP and redial, that fixes it, and usually it stays fixed. I've got my > timeout set to 0 from 8am-4pm, and 15 minutes the rest of the day. > > > Regards, > > Denny Reiter > denny@kewanee.net > ------------------------- > www.freebsd.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 07:52:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08085 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 07:52:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phluffy.lm.com (phluffy.lm.com [204.171.44.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA08080 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 07:52:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from myke@ees.com) Received: from localhost (myke@localhost) by phluffy.lm.com (8.9.0/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA02018; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:52:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from myke@ees.com) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:52:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Holling X-Sender: myke@phluffy.lm.com To: nik@iii.co.uk cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Making a local FreeBSD distribution? In-Reply-To: <19980825103043.A6223@iii.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > If your machines can NFS mount /usr/src and /usr/obj from the machine > that's tracking -stable, you can then run 'make installworld' on the > other machines, and not need to bother with needing to roll your own > release. Right, I am already doing that. The problem is with entirely new machines that don't have any OS whatsoever on them. - Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 08:42:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15200 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:42:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hackerz.org (hackerz.org [209.31.146.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA15194 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:42:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randy@hackerz.org) Received: (from randy@localhost) by hackerz.org (8.9.0/8.9.0) id LAA12279; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 11:42:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19980825114250.44922@hackerz.org> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 11:42:50 -0400 From: Charles Quarri To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Coidan_Sm=F8rgrav?= , Mike Holling , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Making a local FreeBSD distribution? References: <19980824184334.23594@hackerz.org> <2849.904004705@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: <2849.904004705@time.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Mon, Aug 24, 1998 at 05:25:05PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoting Jordan K. Hubbard (jkh@time.cdrom.com): > It is not broken, it works just fine. I do it every day on > releng22.freebsd.org. Please get your facts straight before engaging > in unfounded speculation like this. As the DELL folks say, there > is something wrong here and the diagnosis is: PEBCAK I asked about this problem several weeks ago, and I never got an answer. I am prefectly willing to concede that my procedures are wrong for generating a release. I had been following the release generation procedures as stated in the FAQ. I just tried to generate a local release and it errored out on ldconfig: + ldconfig /usr/lib ldconfig: WARNING! '/usr/lib' can not be used *** Error code 255 Stop. I would like to know what I am doing wrong. If you need more details, please let me know. C. Quarri To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 08:45:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15825 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:45:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from itsdsv1.enc.edu (fw1.enc.edu [207.95.42.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA15820 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:45:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owensc@enc.edu) Received: from itsdsv2.enc.edu (itsdsv2.enc.edu [10.1.1.9]) by itsdsv1.enc.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA14152; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 11:43:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 11:43:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Charles Owens To: nik@iii.co.uk cc: Mike Holling , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: installworld from read-only fs? (was 'Making a local FreeBSD distribution?') In-Reply-To: <19980825103043.A6223@iii.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 25 Aug 1998 nik@iii.co.uk wrote: > On Mon, Aug 24, 1998 at 03:02:19PM -0400, Mike Holling wrote: > > I have a machine tracking -stable, and use it to keep other machines in > > synch. I now have several new machines that don't have anything installed > > on them yet. Rather than installing a SNAP or an older version from CD > > and then upgrading to stable, I'd like to netinstall locally from the > > -stable server. > > If your machines can NFS mount /usr/src and /usr/obj from the machine > that's tracking -stable, you can then run 'make installworld' on the > other machines, and not need to bother with needing to roll your own > release. By the way... is it really necessary that the installworld process be done from a writable /usr/src and /usr/obj ? I'd really like to be able to export these filesystems as read-only. It seems like an unnecesary security risk to have to give all of my servers write access to the master OS install image on my build server. Last time I briefly looked into this it seemed as though during installworld a few files got compiled, though it seemed like minor stuff. Is there an option to make the installworld process only _read_ from /usr/src and /usr/obj? If not, would this be fairly easy to add, or would it require to much reworking? Thanks, Charles > > This may be preferable (it's considerably less effort). > > See the tutorial at > > > > for more details (question 12.5 in particular). > > N > -- > --+==[ Nik Clayton becomes Just Another Perl Contractor in 18 days. ]==+-- > She's still dead. Deal with it. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles N. Owens Email: owensc@enc.edu http://www.enc.edu/~owensc Network & Systems Administrator Information Technology Services "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's Eastern Nazarene College best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 09:41:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA23795 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 09:41:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpha.netvision.net.il (alpha.netvision.net.il [194.90.1.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA23786 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 09:41:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ycs@netvision.net.il) Received: from netvision.net.il (RAS3-p107.hfa.netvision.net.il [62.0.146.107]) by alpha.netvision.net.il (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA31695; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 19:35:39 +0300 (IDT) Message-ID: <35E2E8EB.1A0F5405@netvision.net.il> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 19:40:11 +0300 From: Yoav Cohen-Sivan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott CC: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.7 and user PPP lockups References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Scott wrote: > > Check the timeout portion of the ppp.conf file. Its possible that you are > hitting the time limit and its booting you off. Just make sure timeout is > set to 0. > I explicitly set my timeout to 0. I just experienced this again, only this time it was something like 2-3 minutes after connecting. ps -ax shows that PPP is S+. This is wierd, since at the same time one window shows it at S state I can type in commands to the PPP program in another. I am going to try kernel PPP as someone suggested and see if this makes a difference. I have also received a few e-mails from other people experiencing this. If anyone else is seeing this, send me a note and I'll try to get something ready for the maintainer. Yoav To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 09:46:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA24777 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 09:46:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpha.netvision.net.il (alpha.netvision.net.il [194.90.1.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA24696 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 09:46:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ycs@netvision.net.il) Received: from netvision.net.il (RAS3-p107.hfa.netvision.net.il [62.0.146.107]) by alpha.netvision.net.il (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA13290 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 19:41:14 +0300 (IDT) Message-ID: <35E2EA3A.6D84FDF8@netvision.net.il> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 19:45:46 +0300 From: Yoav Cohen-Sivan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.7 and user PPP lockups References: <35E2B8B2.66B09E75@inw.net> <13794.49175.270508.933524@nickelbag.b00m.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am seeing this through very active use of the link. I typically have one Netscape window I am reading and another 2-3 working at getting the next sites in my daily rounds. Unless the idle timeout is measured in milliseconds I doubt that's it ;-) Yoav Ben Grubin wrote: > > I've seen this type of behaviour occur when your provider has an idle > timeout set on the remote side. Try setting up a keep-alive (ping > script or a web page that auto-reloads every so often) and seeing if > the problem continues. > > Cheers, > Ben > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 09:46:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA24793 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 09:46:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA24697 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 09:46:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (IDENT:6YTEPHRvVVuRkInLX5G2edylCN1fbaQ0@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA10183; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 18:43:45 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199808251643.SAA10183@gratis.grondar.za> To: Charles Quarri cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Coidan_Sm=F8rgrav?= , Mike Holling , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Making a local FreeBSD distribution? Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 18:43:40 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Charles Quarri wrote: > I just tried to generate a local release and it errored out on > ldconfig: > > + ldconfig /usr/lib > ldconfig: WARNING! '/usr/lib' can not be used > *** Error code 255 Your /etc/* is not up-to-date with CURRENT. > I would like to know what I am doing wrong. If you need more > details, please let me know. Perhaps a) Not reading commit mail carefully enough; or b) Running CURRENT when you are not ready to hack on it yourself :-) M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 10:29:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00137 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:29:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt053nb4.san.rr.com (dt053nb4.san.rr.com [204.210.34.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00132 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:29:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Received: from dal.net (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt053nb4.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05839; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:28:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Message-ID: <35E2F444.75A03D6C@dal.net> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:28:36 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE-0823 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dean Hollister CC: FreeBSD-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvsup stable... References: <3.0.3.32.19980825100812.0068ff64@odyssey.apana.org.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Questions about -Stable should go to that list only. Dean Hollister wrote: > > Hiyall, > > Below is an output of cvsup from a couple days ago. Is this worth a new > build/install world? I'm not sure what you're asking. Whether it's worth rebuilding your system is entirely up to you. There certainly are a lot of things there that have been changed, so if it were me I probably would. Good luck, Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** When you don't know where you're going, every road will take you there. - Yiddish Proverb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 10:42:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA02086 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:42:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from newmail.netbistro.com (newmail.netbistro.com [204.239.167.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA02053 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:42:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@abccom.bc.ca) Received: (qmail 7236 invoked by alias); 25 Aug 1998 17:41:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 7198 invoked from network); 25 Aug 1998 17:41:22 -0000 Received: from corpfw.netbistro.com (HELO abccom.bc.ca) (204.239.167.252) by newmail.netbistro.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 1998 17:41:22 -0000 Message-ID: <35E2F7BF.CE2A21A6@abccom.bc.ca> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:43:27 -0700 From: Jon Simola Organization: ABC Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Charles Quarri CC: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , "Dag-Erling Coidan Smørgrav" , Mike Holling , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Making a local FreeBSD distribution? References: <19980824184334.23594@hackerz.org> <2849.904004705@time.cdrom.com> <19980825114250.44922@hackerz.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Charles Quarri wrote: > I asked about this problem several weeks ago, and I never got an > answer. I am prefectly willing to concede that my procedures are > wrong for generating a release. I had been following the release > generation procedures as stated in the FAQ. I'm not an expert, but here's what worked for me, with the exception of a couple missing parts due to non-exportable cryptography stuff. I actually build off /u0 which is an empty 6gig drive, so /usr/src points to /u0/src. 1. Grab the CVS tree. My supfile (for cvsup) looks like: *default prefix=/u0/cvs *default base=/usr/local/cvsup *default host=cvsup.ca.freebsd.org *default release=cvs *default delete use-rel-suffix ## Main Source Tree cvs-all 2. Local /usr/src full of the sources you want to build a release with. I used the following supfile, but you could just use cvs to check them out of the local CVS tree you have. *default tag=RELENG_2_2_7_RELEASE *default prefix=/u0 *default base=/usr/local/cvsup *default host=cvsup.ca.freebsd.org *default release=cvs *default delete use-rel-suffix ## Main Source Tree src-all src-eBones src-secure # other stuff ports-all www doc-all distrib 3. I could never get a make release to work unless it was the same as the version running on the machine. My release of 2.2.7-Release was made on a machine running 2.2.7-Release. I couldn't get a 3.0-Current or 2.2.6-Release machine to make the 2.2.7-Release. # uname -r 2.2.7-RELEASE 4. Also couldn't get it to go unless there was a loaded /usr/obj dir. (Error was: install: crt0.o: No such file or directory) # cd /usr/src && make buildworld 5. Lots of free space. This solution used nearly a gigabyte, IIRC. 6. Make sure the include files are there. # cd /usr/src && make include 7. The CVSROOT environment variable should be set the same as the prefix in the CVS tree supfile. # export CVSROOT=/u0/cvs 8. Start the build # cd /usr/src/release # make release CHROOTDIR=/u0/227release BUILDNAME=2.2.7-RELEASE \ RELEASETAG=RELENG_2_2_7_RELEASE 9. The next hitch was Kerberos. Some time into the make release, cvs will check the entire source tree out of your local CVS tree. This includes the Makefile (I /think/) and the Kerberos skeleton tree. The skeleton tree contains only Makefiles. After the tree is checked out, but before it is actually compiled, you have to either delete the kerberosIV dir (the solution I used) or fill it with actual source files. If you don't, libroken will stop the make release with "Stop: Don't know how to make k_getpwuid.c" or similar. I didn't need Kerberos so I nuked it. (If the Makefile can't find the kerberos directory, it'll skip it) # cd /u0/227release/usr/src && rm -rf kerberosIV 10. Many hours later (~8 for my PPro180), you'll have a release in /u0/227release/R with an ftp-able distribution and 2 CD images. That release (at least in my case) won't have the DES or the Kerberos bits. But it is installable, you'll just have to get those bits elsewhere. And a couple days later, my pretty 2.2.7 CD arrived, which I hadn't been expecting, which is why I went through this in the first place. Questions? Comments? TTYL... Jon jon@abccom.bc.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 10:47:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03141 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:47:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hackerz.org (hackerz.org [209.31.146.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03127 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:47:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randy@hackerz.org) Received: (from randy@localhost) by hackerz.org (8.9.0/8.9.0) id NAA12578; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 13:48:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19980825134816.55554@hackerz.org> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 13:48:16 -0400 From: Charles Quarri To: Mark Murray Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Coidan_Sm=F8rgrav?= , Mike Holling , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Making a local FreeBSD distribution? References: <199808251643.SAA10183@gratis.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: <199808251643.SAA10183@gratis.grondar.za>; from Mark Murray on Tue, Aug 25, 1998 at 06:43:40PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoting Mark Murray (mark@grondar.za): > Charles Quarri wrote: > > Your /etc/* is not up-to-date with CURRENT. I thought I had updated that. I am actually tracking STABLE, not CURRENT. I presume this was a typo. > Perhaps > a) Not reading commit mail carefully enough; or I will go back and look, but you are probably right. Could you score me a clue as to what to look for? > b) Running CURRENT when you are not ready to hack on it yourself Hey, I am just getting started here, aren't I allowed a few mistakes? ;-) ---------- C. Quarri To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 11:39:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11520 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 11:39:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from www.communique.no (www.communique.no [193.212.204.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA11431 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 11:39:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from are@communique.no) Received: (qmail 5068 invoked by uid 1001); 25 Aug 1998 18:49:18 -0000 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 20:49:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Are Bryne X-Sender: are@rune.communique.no To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 'make installworld' on empty machine (was: Making a local FreeBSD distribution?) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Communique DA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, Mike Holling wrote: > > If your machines can NFS mount /usr/src and /usr/obj from the machine > > that's tracking -stable, you can then run 'make installworld' on the > > other machines, and not need to bother with needing to roll your own > > release. > > Right, I am already doing that. The problem is with entirely new > machines that don't have any OS whatsoever on them. I tried asking for this feature on freebsd-conf (or -config ?) as a part of sysinstall a while ago. I received no replies. Isn't this feasible? It would sure be handy and a real time saver. Regards, Are Bryne Communiqué DA Phone: +47 22 44 33 99 Parkveien 51b E-mail: admin@communique.no N-0256 Oslo URL: http://www.communique.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 12:17:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA17056 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 12:17:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA17033 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 12:17:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (IDENT:nderE/lz1qTSOYPOpjTUcXcuUWo1lWyq@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA10634; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:14:48 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199808251914.VAA10634@gratis.grondar.za> To: Charles Quarri cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Coidan_Sm=F8rgrav?= , Mike Holling , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Making a local FreeBSD distribution? Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:14:46 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Charles Quarri wrote: > Quoting Mark Murray (mark@grondar.za): > > Charles Quarri wrote: > > > > Your /etc/* is not up-to-date with CURRENT. > > I thought I had updated that. I am actually tracking STABLE, not > CURRENT. I presume this was a typo. Er, no - your ldconfig was objecting to /usr/lib - this is a 3.0 symptom. Perhaps your sources are a bit mixed up? Check your cvs-supfile > > Perhaps > > a) Not reading commit mail carefully enough; or > > I will go back and look, but you are probably right. Could you > score me a clue as to what to look for? Yup. Look at all the commit messages for ldconfig. It may be worthwhile getting (and tracking) the CVS tree so that these are permanently available. See CVS(1), CVSUP (in ports) and CURRENT/STABLE in the handbook. > > b) Running CURRENT when you are not ready to hack on it yourself > > Hey, I am just getting started here, aren't I allowed a few mistakes? Hehehe! Mistakes, sure. Don't get into the habit of believing that this is _support_. The situation is a bit different with STABLE, but there is still much responsibility for you to keep up-to-date, and not rely on the helpdesk :-). The _releases_ are the supported products. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 12:59:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23882 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 12:59:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spot1.fvcc.cc.mt.us (spot1.fvcc.cc.mt.us [207.196.176.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23876 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 12:59:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rowens@spot1.fvcc.cc.mt.us) Received: from aerie.fvcc.cc.mt.us (aerie.fvcc.cc.mt.us [207.196.176.210]) by spot1.fvcc.cc.mt.us (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA22317 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:00:35 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199808252000.OAA22317@spot1.fvcc.cc.mt.us> From: "Rick Owens" Organization: Flathead Valley Community College To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:00:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Making a local FreeBSD distribution? In-reply-to: <35E2F7BF.CE2A21A6@abccom.bc.ca> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 25 Aug 98, at 10:43, Jon Simola wrote: > Charles Quarri wrote: > > > I asked about this problem several weeks ago, and I never got an > > answer. I am prefectly willing to concede that my procedures are > > wrong for generating a release. I had been following the release > > generation procedures as stated in the FAQ. > > I'm not an expert, but here's what worked for me, with the exception of a > couple missing parts due to non-exportable cryptography stuff. I actually > build off /u0 which is an empty 6gig drive, so /usr/src points to /u0/src. [text omitted] > Questions? Comments? Many thanks for the detailed walkthrough; I expect to be building a release sometime in the next few weeks, and 'tis great to have a working example to refer to in addition to the docs. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Rick Owens | FVCC, Kalispell, MT, USA, Sol 3 #include "Devoted to the study of cat bathing as a martial art." -------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 13:19:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA27080 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 13:19:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rrz.Hanse.DE (rrz.Hanse.DE [193.174.9.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA27003; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 13:19:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stb@hanse.de) Received: from daemon.Hanse.DE (daemon.Hanse.DE [193.174.9.17]) by rrz.Hanse.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA27117; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:26:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stb@hanse.de) Received: from transit.hanse.de (transit.Hanse.DE [193.174.9.161]) by daemon.Hanse.DE (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA25655; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 22:20:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stb@hanse.de) Received: from localhost (stb@localhost) by transit.hanse.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA28888; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 22:18:49 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: transit.hanse.de: stb owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 22:18:49 +0200 (CEST) From: Stefan Bethke To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Warning: Change to netatalk's file name handling Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As you might be aware, Mac's tend to use characters in file names usually not used on UN*X systems, namely in the range \0x01-\0x1F and \0x7f-\0xff. Especially annoing is the "Icon\0x0D" for Custom Icons on Folders or Volumes. I will put a patch in the netatalk port that maps all characters outside of \0x20 to \0x7E (aka isprint()) to the equivalent hex ":xx" sequence. This will break access to files which names contain characters in the range \0x01 to \0x1F; they no longer will be accessible from any AFP client (they will be visible, but the client will get a "file not found" error when trying to access it). If nobody objects, I'll commit this the next few days. Cheers, Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Muehlendamm 12 Phone: +49-40-256848, +49-177-3504009 D-22087 Hamburg Hamburg, Germany To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 13:43:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01467 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 13:43:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fdy2.demon.co.uk (fdy2.demon.co.uk [194.222.102.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01436 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 13:42:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rjs@fdy2.demon.co.uk) Received: (from rjs@localhost) by fdy2.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA00457; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:38:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from rjs) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:38:24 +0100 (BST) From: Robert Swindells Message-Id: <199808252038.VAA00457@fdy2.demon.co.uk> To: are.bryne@communique.no CC: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from Are Bryne on Tue, 25 Aug 1998 20:49:18 +0200 (CEST)) Subject: Re: 'make installworld' on empty machine (was: Making a local FreeBSD distribution?) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > If your machines can NFS mount /usr/src and /usr/obj from the machine > > > that's tracking -stable, you can then run 'make installworld' on the > > > other machines, and not need to bother with needing to roll your own > > > release. > > > > Right, I am already doing that. The problem is with entirely new > > machines that don't have any OS whatsoever on them. >I tried asking for this feature on freebsd-conf (or -config ?) as a part >of sysinstall a while ago. I received no replies. >Isn't this feasible? It would sure be handy and a real time saver. What's wrong with booting from floppy, partition and label the disks then switch to the shell on VT4 and do the NFS mounts. This is what I do for new machines. Robert Swindells To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 13:58:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05268 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 13:58:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rachel (mail.glenatl.glenayre.com [157.230.160.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA05066 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 13:58:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhicks@glenatl.glenayre.com) Received: from jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com by rachel (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA12359; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 16:41:29 -0400 Received: from jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com (localhost.glenatl.glenayre.com [127.0.0.1]) by jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA23021; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 16:41:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199808252041.QAA23021@jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com> To: Mark Murray cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, dag-erli@ifi.uio.no, myke@ees.com Subject: Re: Making a local FreeBSD distribution? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:14:46 +0200." <199808251914.VAA10634@gratis.grondar.za> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 16:41:16 -0400 From: Jerry Hicks Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG No... something seems broken with 'make release' on -stable just lately Mine just failed at the same spot (i've been building releases for some time) . . . /usr/lib/compat/libtermcap.so.3.0 /usr/lib/compat/libtermlib.so.1.1 /usr/lib/compat/libtermlib.so.2.1 /usr/lib/compat/libtermlib.so.3.0 /usr/lib/compat/libutil.so.1.1 /usr/lib/compat/libutil.so.2.2 /usr/lib/compat/libvgl.so.1.0 /usr/lib/compat/libxpg4.so.2.0 /usr/lib/compat/liby.so.1.1 /usr/lib/compat/liby.so.2.0 /usr/lib/compat/libz.so.2.0 + ldconfig /usr/lib ldconfig: WARNING! '/usr/lib' can not be used *** Error code 255 Stop. ---- I run cvsup-mirror on this system and checked out a fresh copy of /usr/src using 'cvs checkout -P -r RELENG_2_2 src' Off to the commitlogs... Cheers, Jerry Hicks jhicks@glenatl.glenayre.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Quoting Mark Murray (mark@grondar.za): > > > Charles Quarri wrote: > > > > > > Your /etc/* is not up-to-date with CURRENT. > > > > I thought I had updated that. I am actually tracking STABLE, not > > CURRENT. I presume this was a typo. > > Er, no - your ldconfig was objecting to /usr/lib - this is a 3.0 symptom. > Perhaps your sources are a bit mixed up? Check your cvs-supfile > > > > Perhaps > > > a) Not reading commit mail carefully enough; or > > > > I will go back and look, but you are probably right. Could you > > score me a clue as to what to look for? > > Hehehe! Mistakes, sure. Don't get into the habit of believing that this > is _support_. The situation is a bit different with STABLE, but there is > still much responsibility for you to keep up-to-date, and not rely on the > helpdesk :-). The _releases_ are the supported products. > > M > -- > Mark Murray > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 14:22:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08187 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:22:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08174; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:22:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA17644; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:11:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpdC17640; Tue Aug 25 21:11:46 1998 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:11:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Stefan Bethke cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Warning: Change to netatalk's file name handling In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG please check with jallison@eng.sgi.com (or if that bounces get back to me) he has patches we use at whistle to make netatalk do various code pages in a manner compatible with samba (which he is a primary developer of) I think his patches already do something similar to what you want (but I'm not sure) julian On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, Stefan Bethke wrote: > As you might be aware, Mac's tend to use characters in file names usually > not used on UN*X systems, namely in the range \0x01-\0x1F and \0x7f-\0xff. > > Especially annoing is the "Icon\0x0D" for Custom Icons on Folders or > Volumes. > > I will put a patch in the netatalk port that maps all characters outside > of \0x20 to \0x7E (aka isprint()) to the equivalent hex ":xx" sequence. > > This will break access to files which names contain characters in the > range \0x01 to \0x1F; they no longer will be accessible from any AFP > client (they will be visible, but the client will get a "file not found" > error when trying to access it). > > If nobody objects, I'll commit this the next few days. > > Cheers, > Stefan > > -- > Stefan Bethke > Muehlendamm 12 Phone: +49-40-256848, +49-177-3504009 > D-22087 Hamburg > Hamburg, Germany > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 14:24:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08688 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:24:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpha.netvision.net.il (alpha.netvision.net.il [194.90.1.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08549 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:24:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ycs@netvision.net.il) Received: from netvision.net.il (RAS1-p25.hfa.netvision.net.il [62.0.145.25]) by alpha.netvision.net.il (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA16440 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 00:19:16 +0300 (IDT) Message-ID: <35E32B63.EFC75694@netvision.net.il> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 00:23:47 +0300 From: Yoav Cohen-Sivan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.7 and user PPP lockups References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A small update: I recompiled my kernel, this time adding 'pseudo-device bpfilter 1'. I wanted to be able to tcpdump the link after ppp got stuck. Yet, ever since my reboot with the new kernel I can't get the damn think to lock-up ;-) Anybody else with these problems: can you please try this, too? We might be able to find a pattern here. Finally, check if you are using the pnp code in your kernel, and if your modem is pnp: that was the second hunch I was going to investigate before bpfilter "ruined" everything for me. Yoav To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 14:41:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA12406 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:41:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from a486n1.znh.org (dialup7.gaffaneys.com [208.155.161.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12387 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:40:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zach@gaffaneys.com) Received: (from zach@localhost) by a486n1.znh.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA03346; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 21:40:55 GMT (envelope-from zach) Message-ID: <19980825164055.A3089@znh.org.> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 16:40:55 -0500 From: Zach Heilig To: Yoav Cohen-Sivan , Scott Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.7 and user PPP lockups References: <35E2E8EB.1A0F5405@netvision.net.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <35E2E8EB.1A0F5405@netvision.net.il>; from Yoav Cohen-Sivan on Tue, Aug 25, 1998 at 07:40:11PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Aug 25, 1998 at 07:40:11PM +0300, Yoav Cohen-Sivan wrote: > I have also received a few e-mails from other people experiencing this. > If anyone else is seeing this, send me a note and I'll try to get > something ready for the maintainer. I used to see this (external US Robotics Sportster/56Kx2), but I went through the modem documentation, and set the parameters to match what I thought they should, and the problems with FreeBSD went away (but now neither Win95 or the Sportster setup program can find the modem... not a big deal -- I could fix it by making the original configuration come up when the modem powers on and telling FreeBSD's ppp to load the alternate configuration). The fiddling was basically: &C1 normal CD operations &D3 reset on receipt of DTR &H1 enable hardware flow control &I0 disable software flow control &S1 modem controls DSR -- Zach Heilig -- zach@gaffaneys.com Real Programs don't use shared text. Otherwise, how can they use functions for scratch space after they are finished calling them? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 14:46:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13517 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:46:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpha.netvision.net.il (alpha.netvision.net.il [194.90.1.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13428 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:45:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ycs@netvision.net.il) Received: from netvision.net.il (RAS1-p25.hfa.netvision.net.il [62.0.145.25]) by alpha.netvision.net.il (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA27011 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 00:40:55 +0300 (IDT) Message-ID: <35E33076.9BAB79D5@netvision.net.il> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 00:45:26 +0300 From: Yoav Cohen-Sivan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.7 and user PPP lockups References: <35E2E8EB.1A0F5405@netvision.net.il> <19980825164055.A3089@znh.org.> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I can't see anything special with the settings you used. Those are pretty much what I am using. It is also funny, in my eyes, that it would lock up under FreeBSD, but not Linux nor NT. What is more interesting here is that now FreeBSD sees your modem, but Win95 doesn't: sounds to me like you have pnp code in the kernel and you moved the modem around in userconfig. If this were true it would strengthen my hunch that this is pnp related. Yoav Zach Heilig wrote: > > I used to see this (external US Robotics Sportster/56Kx2), but I went through > the modem documentation, and set the parameters to match what I thought they > should, and the problems with FreeBSD went away (but now neither Win95 or the > Sportster setup program can find the modem... not a big deal -- I could fix > it by making the original configuration come up when the modem powers on and > telling FreeBSD's ppp to load the alternate configuration). > > The fiddling was basically: > &C1 normal CD operations > &D3 reset on receipt of DTR > &H1 enable hardware flow control > &I0 disable software flow control > &S1 modem controls DSR > > -- > Zach Heilig -- zach@gaffaneys.com > Real Programs don't use shared text. Otherwise, how can they use > functions for scratch space after they are finished calling them? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 14:56:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15152 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:56:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15146 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:56:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA23356; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:28:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Charles Quarri cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Coidan_Sm=F8rgrav?= , Mike Holling , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Making a local FreeBSD distribution? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Aug 1998 11:42:50 EDT." <19980825114250.44922@hackerz.org> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:28:23 -0700 Message-ID: <23352.904080503@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I asked about this problem several weeks ago, and I never got an > answer. I am prefectly willing to concede that my procedures are > wrong for generating a release. I had been following the release > generation procedures as stated in the FAQ. > > I just tried to generate a local release and it errored out on > ldconfig: You are trying to use -current sources; don't do that. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 14:57:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15230 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:57:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15219 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:57:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA23371; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:28:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Mark Murray cc: Charles Quarri , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Coidan_Sm=F8rgrav?= , Mike Holling , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Making a local FreeBSD distribution? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Aug 1998 18:43:40 +0200." <199808251643.SAA10183@gratis.grondar.za> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:28:58 -0700 Message-ID: <23368.904080538@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG More importantly, he shouldn't even be mucking with -current at all if he's trying to build 2.2.7-stable releases. :) - Jordan > Charles Quarri wrote: > > I just tried to generate a local release and it errored out on > > ldconfig: > > > > + ldconfig /usr/lib > > ldconfig: WARNING! '/usr/lib' can not be used > > *** Error code 255 > > Your /etc/* is not up-to-date with CURRENT. > > > I would like to know what I am doing wrong. If you need more > > details, please let me know. > > Perhaps > a) Not reading commit mail carefully enough; or > b) Running CURRENT when you are not ready to hack on it yourself > > :-) > > M > -- > Mark Murray > Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 15:03:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA16618 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:03:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA16613 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:03:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA23417; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:35:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Jerry Hicks cc: Mark Murray , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, dag-erli@ifi.uio.no, myke@ees.com Subject: Re: Making a local FreeBSD distribution? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Aug 1998 16:41:16 EDT." <199808252041.QAA23021@jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:35:29 -0700 Message-ID: <23413.904080929@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dammit, it's *not broken* you guys, you just need to stop trying to mix -stable and -current sources!! :) > No... something seems broken with 'make release' on -stable just lately > > Mine just failed at the same spot (i've been building releases for some time) > > . > . > . > > /usr/lib/compat/libtermcap.so.3.0 /usr/lib/compat/libtermlib.so.1.1 /usr/lib /compat/libtermlib.so.2.1 /usr/lib/compat/libtermlib.so.3.0 /usr/lib/compat/lib util.so.1.1 /usr/lib/compat/libutil.so.2.2 /usr/lib/compat/libvgl.so.1.0 /usr/l ib/compat/libxpg4.so.2.0 /usr/lib/compat/liby.so.1.1 /usr/lib/compat/liby.so.2. 0 /usr/lib/compat/libz.so.2.0 > + ldconfig /usr/lib > ldconfig: WARNING! '/usr/lib' can not be used > *** Error code 255 > > Stop. > > ---- > > I run cvsup-mirror on this system and checked out a fresh copy of /usr/src > using 'cvs checkout -P -r RELENG_2_2 src' > > Off to the commitlogs... > > Cheers, > > Jerry Hicks > jhicks@glenatl.glenayre.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > Quoting Mark Murray (mark@grondar.za): > > > > Charles Quarri wrote: > > > > > > > > Your /etc/* is not up-to-date with CURRENT. > > > > > > I thought I had updated that. I am actually tracking STABLE, not > > > CURRENT. I presume this was a typo. > > > > Er, no - your ldconfig was objecting to /usr/lib - this is a 3.0 symptom. > > Perhaps your sources are a bit mixed up? Check your cvs-supfile > > > > > > Perhaps > > > > a) Not reading commit mail carefully enough; or > > > > > > I will go back and look, but you are probably right. Could you > > > score me a clue as to what to look for? > > > > Hehehe! Mistakes, sure. Don't get into the habit of believing that this > > is _support_. The situation is a bit different with STABLE, but there is > > still much responsibility for you to keep up-to-date, and not rely on the > > helpdesk :-). The _releases_ are the supported products. > > > > M > > -- > > Mark Murray > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 15:51:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA23758 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:51:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23743 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:50:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23836; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:23:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Jerry Hicks cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Making a local FreeBSD distribution? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Aug 1998 18:27:55 EDT." <199808252227.SAA23280@jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:23:04 -0700 Message-ID: <23832.904083784@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG But somewhere along the way, you somehow involved -current or you wouldn't have seen the message you saw. Maybe you forget RELEASETAG on the release line, I dunno, I only know that I'm quite familiar with the symptoms you describe and they always come about by mis-match. - Jordan > > Uhh... I don't get it Jordan :-) > > I checked out a _new_ /usr/src tree using: > > cvs checkout -P -r RELENG_2_2 src > > This machine is running post 2.2.7 -STABLE and never ran current. > > It's just a data point for us, we don't really need the release output. > > Thanks, > > J. Hicks > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 16:06:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26639 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 16:06:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rachel (mail.glenatl.glenayre.com [157.230.160.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA26616 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 16:05:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhicks@glenatl.glenayre.com) Received: from jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com by rachel (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA18247; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 18:28:07 -0400 Received: from jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com (localhost.glenatl.glenayre.com [127.0.0.1]) by jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA23280; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 18:27:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199808252227.SAA23280@jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Making a local FreeBSD distribution? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:35:29 PDT." <23413.904080929@time.cdrom.com> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 18:27:55 -0400 From: Jerry Hicks Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Uhh... I don't get it Jordan :-) I checked out a _new_ /usr/src tree using: cvs checkout -P -r RELENG_2_2 src This machine is running post 2.2.7 -STABLE and never ran current. It's just a data point for us, we don't really need the release output. Thanks, J. Hicks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 16:22:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA29512 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 16:22:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (ppp-d3.dialup.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA29506 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 16:22:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA00501; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 16:19:18 GMT (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199808251619.QAA00501@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Jerry Hicks cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Making a local FreeBSD distribution? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Aug 1998 18:27:55 -0400." <199808252227.SAA23280@jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 16:19:16 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Uhh... I don't get it Jordan :-) > > I checked out a _new_ /usr/src tree using: > > cvs checkout -P -r RELENG_2_2 src > > This machine is running post 2.2.7 -STABLE and never ran current. > > It's just a data point for us, we don't really need the release output. Unless you have subsequently edited src/release/Makefile or otherwise configured your environment, you're trying to build a 3.0 release on a 2.2 box, which isn't supported. It is extremely important to read the release Makefile *before* trying to do a release build, as you *will* fall over otherwise. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 17:45:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA11138 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 17:45:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (ppp-d3.dialup.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA11121 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 17:45:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA01063; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 17:42:39 GMT (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199808251742.RAA01063@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Scott Drassinower cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel 100+ troubles In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Aug 1998 20:28:21 -0400." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 17:42:37 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > > > There have been some serious NFS-related fixes subsequent to 2.2.6; it > > is quite possible that you're seeing the bugs that these addressed > > rather than a hardware problem. It is useful to add the 'l' flag to > > ps(1) and see what the hung processes have in their WCHAN field, as > > this gives more detail than just "disk wait". > > UID PID PPID CPU PRI NI VSZ RSS WCHAN STAT TT TIME COMMAND > 0 2438 2429 0 -18 0 228 520 vmopar D p4- 0:00.02 sz > > vmopar is new to me. This looks like a known problem which was fixed literally just a few days ago. It's timing sensitive, which is probably why you're only seeing it at 100Mbps. > > If you have an opportunity, you might want to build a 2.2.7 kernel and > > see if you can reproduce the problems. If you don't have the resources > > to do this in-house, you should be able to ask on the freebsd-stable > > list for someone to generate a -stable kernel for you to try. > > Will I need a 2.2.7 system to build a 2.2.7 kernel? You should be able to build a 2.2.7-stable kernel on a 2.2.6 system. Note that a 2.2.7-release kernel will still exhibit the problem you're noticing above. (I say 'should' because I can't verify that this is the case at this point.) The best way to go about updating a test system will be to fetch the CVSup DIY package using pkg_add ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CVSup/cvsupit.tgz You might want to read the CVSup FAQ first, see: http://www.polstra.com/projects/freeware/CVSup/ Once you have updated your sources, you should be able to build a test kernel. Please let us know how you go, and don't hesitate to ask if you run into any more problems. Note that I've redirected this discussion to the freebsd-stable list, as I don't think this is a hardware problem. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 18:20:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA14950 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 18:20:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA14945 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 18:20:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@n4hhe.ampr.org) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt2-236.HiWAAY.net [208.147.148.236]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id UAA06614 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 20:20:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from n4hhe.ampr.org (localhost.ampr.org [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA02700 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 20:10:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@n4hhe.ampr.org) Message-Id: <199808260110.UAA02700@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: Making a local FreeBSD distribution? In-reply-to: Message from Jerry Hicks of "Tue, 25 Aug 1998 18:27:55 EDT." <199808252227.SAA23280@jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 20:10:09 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jerry Hicks writes: > > Uhh... I don't get it Jordan :-) > > I checked out a _new_ /usr/src tree using: > > cvs checkout -P -r RELENG_2_2 src > > This machine is running post 2.2.7 -STABLE and never ran current. > > It's just a data point for us, we don't really need the release output. Good, for starters you have a recent RELENG_2_2 src. I don't know why, I got bit once, at this point I figure I need a "make buildworld" laying around. Then just to make sure I never forget (again), in /root/.cshrc I put the following: # for "make release" setenv CHROOTDIR /home/release setenv BUILDNAME 2.2.7-dmk setenv CVSROOT /home/ncvs setenv RELEASETAG RELENG_2_2 At home /home/ncvs is updated via cvsup. At work I use CTM (can't get cvsup thru the firewall). # cd /usr/src/release # make release Its best to do that online the first time as a couple of ports are needed. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 22:17:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA10347 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 22:17:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from a486n1.znh.org (dialup11.gaffaneys.com [208.155.161.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA10341 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 22:17:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zach@gaffaneys.com) Received: (from zach@localhost) by a486n1.znh.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA04960; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 05:21:27 GMT (envelope-from zach) Message-ID: <19980826002127.A4522@znh.org.> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 00:21:27 -0500 From: Zach Heilig To: Yoav Cohen-Sivan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.7 and user PPP lockups References: <35E2E8EB.1A0F5405@netvision.net.il> <19980825164055.A3089@znh.org.> <35E33076.9BAB79D5@netvision.net.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <35E33076.9BAB79D5@netvision.net.il>; from Yoav Cohen-Sivan on Wed, Aug 26, 1998 at 12:45:26AM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 26, 1998 at 12:45:26AM +0300, Yoav Cohen-Sivan wrote: > What is more interesting here is that now FreeBSD sees your modem, but > Win95 doesn't: sounds to me like you have pnp code in the kernel and you > moved the modem around in userconfig. If this were true it would > strengthen my hunch that this is pnp related. It is a supposedly a "PnP" modem, but it is external (wonder how that works...) Win95 recognizes the serial port is there (but it would if the modem was connected or not). My guess is that DSR is low when Win95 checks, and it assumes that there is nothing there (DSR defaults to always high). I haven't checked recently, but I think I may have done: &K0 (disable compression) &M0 (disable error correction) But these would only affect latency (and decrease transfer times slightly for me, since I almost always transfer already compressed files). -- Zach Heilig -- zach@gaffaneys.com Real Programs don't use shared text. Otherwise, how can they use functions for scratch space after they are finished calling them? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 22:56:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA12795 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 22:56:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hackerz.org (hackerz.org [209.31.146.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA12790 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 22:56:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randy@hackerz.org) Received: (from randy@localhost) by hackerz.org (8.9.0/8.9.0) id BAA13938; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 01:57:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19980826015744.01207@hackerz.org> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 01:57:44 -0400 From: Charles Quarri To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Coidan_Sm=F8rgrav?= , Mike Holling , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Making a local FreeBSD distribution? References: <19980825114250.44922@hackerz.org> <23352.904080503@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: <23352.904080503@time.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Tue, Aug 25, 1998 at 02:28:23PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoting Jordan K. Hubbard (jkh@time.cdrom.com): > > You are trying to use -current sources; don't do that. :) I just caught that, sorry, my bad. Now for try number two. C. Quarri To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 25 23:10:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA13836 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 23:10:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA13826 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 1998 23:10:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from mail.siemens.de (salomon.siemens.de [139.23.33.13]) by david.siemens.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA07218 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:09:17 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (daemon@curry.mchp.siemens.de [146.180.31.23]) by mail.siemens.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA19036 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:09:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26964 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:09:12 +0200 (CEST) From: Andre Albsmeier Message-Id: <199808260609.IAA01556@internal> Subject: Re: Warning: Change to netatalk's file name handling In-Reply-To: from Julian Elischer at "Aug 25, 98 02:11:43 pm" To: julian@whistle.com (Julian Elischer) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:09:09 +0200 (CEST) Cc: stb@hanse.de, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > please check with jallison@eng.sgi.com > (or if that bounces get back to me) > > > he has patches we use at whistle to make > netatalk do various code pages in a manner compatible with > samba (which he is a primary developer of) > > I think his patches already do something similar to what you want (but I'm > not sure) I would greatly appreciate if there were a workaround for this silly MAC behaviour. I have a local patch for this stuff, but compatiblity with samba would be great. Thanks in advance, -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 26 01:30:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA25171 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 01:30:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from king.ki.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de (king.ki.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de [141.2.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA25161 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 01:30:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marko@king.ki.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de) Received: (from marko@localhost) by king.ki.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de (8.7.1/8.7.1) id KAA01436; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:29:53 +0200 (MESZ) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:29:53 +0200 (MESZ) Message-Id: <199808260829.KAA01436@king.ki.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> From: Marko Schuetz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: XFree86 3.3.2 permissions? X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under Emacs 20.2.1 Reply-To: marko@cs.uni-frankfurt.de Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I tried using /stand/sysinstall to install XFree86 3.3.2 but for some reason that I did not find out it kept installing compat21 every time I tried and did not install XFree86 3.3.2. I downloaded the files and ran extract. With the XF86Config from the previous install I tried startx. I looked through the stuff that I downloaded and found that the new XF86_SVGA did not have the setuid bit set as the old one had. Setting it solved the problem for me. Now I am curious: should 3.3.2 run without the setuid bit set? Marko To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 26 04:34:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA15939 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 04:34:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA15934 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 04:34:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from muir-10 (roger@muir-10.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.148.10]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA17886 Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:33:25 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <35E3F284.167E@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:33:24 +0100 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 2.2.8 release timetable (bt848 issue) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I was wondering when 2.2.8 is timetabled for release. Rough guesses acceptible. Would it be before 3.0 (due mid October) or after? Cheers Roger Hardiman Strathclyde Uni Telepresence Group To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 26 05:02:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA18574 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 05:02:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.promo.de (mail.Promo.DE [194.45.188.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA18569 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 05:02:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stefan@promo.de) Received: from d254.promo.de (d254.Promo.DE [194.45.188.254]) by mail.promo.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA11363; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 13:56:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 13:59:54 +0200 From: Stefan Bethke To: Roger Hardiman cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.8 release timetable (bt848 issue) Message-ID: <871502.3113128794@d254.promo.de> In-Reply-To: <35E3F284.167E@cs.strath.ac.uk> Originator-Info: login-token=Mulberry:01V2KRaMrW9s720bcO84sV X-Mailer: Mulberry Demo (MacOS) [1.4.0a8, s/n Evaluation] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mit, 26. Aug 1998 12:33 Uhr +0100 Roger Hardiman wrote: > I was wondering when 2.2.8 is timetabled for release. > Rough guesses acceptible. > Would it be before 3.0 (due mid October) or after? IIRC November 15th. Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-18 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 26 05:28:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA21543 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 05:28:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from iglou.com (iglou2.iglou.com [192.107.41.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA21534 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 05:28:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patrick@cre8tivegroup.com) Received: from [204.255.227.115] (helo=gateway.cre8tivegroup.com) by iglou.com with esmtp (8.9.1/8.9.1) id 0zBeg6-0003Z2-00; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:27:54 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <35E3F284.167E@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:28:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Patrick Gardella To: Roger Hardiman Subject: RE: 2.2.8 release timetable (bt848 issue) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 2.2.8 is scheduled to be released on or about 15 November 1998. 3.0 is scheduled to be released on or about 15 October 1998. Based on the last announcement, that is! Patrick On 26-Aug-98 Roger Hardiman wrote: > Hi, > I was wondering when 2.2.8 is timetabled for release. > Rough guesses acceptible. > Would it be before 3.0 (due mid October) or after? > > Cheers > Roger Hardiman > Strathclyde Uni Telepresence Group To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 26 05:35:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA22278 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 05:35:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA22267 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 05:35:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from muir-10 (roger@muir-10.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.148.10]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA21848 Wed, 26 Aug 1998 13:34:33 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <35E400D9.794B@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 13:34:33 +0100 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick Gardella CC: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.8 release timetable (bt848 issue) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Patrick, Stefan, > > 2.2.8 is scheduled to be released on or about 15 November 1998. > 3.0 is scheduled to be released on or about 15 October 1998. Thanks for the details of the 2.2.8 release. All subject to change :-) Plenty of time for Soren to get the bt848 driver in 2.2.x brought up to date (with the driver in -current) Bye Roger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 26 05:56:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA24819 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 05:56:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA24808 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 05:56:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (IDENT:pialZKotmvXFiUen+8FaS32STelCe+rJ@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA14233; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:54:56 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199808261254.OAA14233@gratis.grondar.za> To: Roger Hardiman cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.8 release timetable (bt848 issue) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:54:54 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Roger Hardiman wrote: > I was wondering when 2.2.8 is timetabled for release. > Rough guesses acceptible. 3 months after 2.2.7?? M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 26 06:52:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA02425 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 06:52:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.119.24.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA02420 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 06:52:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA07978; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:51:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id PAA29706; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:51:29 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19980826155129.28885@follo.net> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:51:29 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund To: Mark Murray , Roger Hardiman Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.8 release timetable (bt848 issue) References: <199808261254.OAA14233@gratis.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <199808261254.OAA14233@gratis.grondar.za>; from Mark Murray on Wed, Aug 26, 1998 at 02:54:54PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 26, 1998 at 02:54:54PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > Roger Hardiman wrote: > > I was wondering when 2.2.8 is timetabled for release. > > Rough guesses acceptible. > > 3 months after 2.2.7?? No, those are the snapshots - normally we do 6 months between releases. Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 26 08:51:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA21815 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:51:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rachel (mail.glenatl.glenayre.com [157.230.160.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA21810 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:51:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhicks@glenatl.glenayre.com) Received: from jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com by rachel (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA10798; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 11:44:00 -0400 Received: from jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com (localhost.glenatl.glenayre.com [127.0.0.1]) by jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24808 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 11:43:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199808261543.LAA24808@jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Making a local FreeBSD distribution? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Aug 1998 01:57:44 EDT." <19980826015744.01207@hackerz.org> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 11:43:49 -0400 From: Jerry Hicks Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Quoting Charles Quarri > Quoting Jordan K. Hubbard (jkh@time.cdrom.com): >> >> You are trying to use -current sources; don't do that. :) > >I just caught that, sorry, my bad. Now for try number two. > >C. Quarri And mine was definitely a case of pilot error. make release just finished. Seem's that 'make' doesn't realize 'RELEASETAGS' is the plural form :-) Thanks, Jerry Hicks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 26 09:00:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA23231 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 09:00:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from newmail.netbistro.com (newmail.netbistro.com [204.239.167.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA23210 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 09:00:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@abccom.bc.ca) Received: (qmail 6648 invoked by alias); 26 Aug 1998 15:59:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 6636 invoked from network); 26 Aug 1998 15:59:46 -0000 Received: from corpfw.netbistro.com (HELO abccom.bc.ca) (204.239.167.252) by newmail.netbistro.com with SMTP; 26 Aug 1998 15:59:46 -0000 Message-ID: <35E4316F.E82CC8FF@abccom.bc.ca> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 09:01:51 -0700 From: Jon Simola Organization: ABC Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Making a local FreeBSD distribution? References: <199808260110.UAA02700@nospam.hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David Kelly wrote: > # cd /usr/src/release > # make release > > Its best to do that online the first time as a couple of ports are > needed. And just for a reference point, in /usr/ports/distfiles they look like: -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 47501 Jan 10 1997 docbk241.tar.Z -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 61031 Jan 10 1997 docbk30.tar.Z -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 20510 Jan 4 1997 isoENTS.zip -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1108064 May 17 20:41 jade1_1_1.zip -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 6190 Jan 17 1998 linuxdoc-1.1.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 138302 Feb 21 1998 sgmlformat-1.6.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 816871 Nov 3 1997 unzip532.tar.gz Might want to grab those manually. I had 4 make releases die in a row because it couldn't fetch Jade. Now here's a question: In the middle of a make release, after fetch couldn't contact ftp.jclark.com to get Jade, why didn't it fall back to cdrom.com instead of stopping the make? It eventually tried cdrom.com when I manually performed a cd /usr/ports/textproc/jade && make TTYL... Jon jon@abccom.bc.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 26 09:30:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27598 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 09:30:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tasam.com (tasam.com [198.232.144.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA27487 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 09:30:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd.list@bug.tasam.com) Received: from bug (root@tasam.com [198.232.144.22]) by tasam.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA00787; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:28:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <005c01bdd10e$94b37c60$f10408d1@bug.tasam.com> From: "Joe Gleason" To: "Patrick Gardella" , "Roger Hardiman" Cc: Subject: Re: 2.2.8 release timetable (bt848 issue) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:28:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2110.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wow, I turn 18 on October 15 98. ;-) I just thought everyone needed to know that. Joe Gleason Tasam >2.2.8 is scheduled to be released on or about 15 November 1998. >3.0 is scheduled to be released on or about 15 October 1998. > >Based on the last announcement, that is! > >Patrick > >On 26-Aug-98 Roger Hardiman wrote: >> Hi, >> I was wondering when 2.2.8 is timetabled for release. >> Rough guesses acceptible. >> Would it be before 3.0 (due mid October) or after? >> >> Cheers >> Roger Hardiman >> Strathclyde Uni Telepresence Group > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 26 12:27:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA29654 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:27:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29649 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:27:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dag-erli@ifi.uio.no) Received: from olvaldi.ifi.uio.no (2602@olvaldi.ifi.uio.no [129.240.65.43]) by ifi.uio.no (8.8.8/8.8.7/ifi0.2) with ESMTP id VAA19492; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 21:26:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from dag-erli@localhost) by olvaldi.ifi.uio.no ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 21:26:47 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: marko@cs.uni-frankfurt.de Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XFree86 3.3.2 permissions? References: <199808260829.KAA01436@king.ki.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> Organization: University of Oslo, Department of Informatics X-url: http://www.stud.ifi.uio.no/~dag-erli/ X-other-addresses: 'finger dag-erli@ifi.uio.no' for a list X-disclaimer-1: The views expressed in this article are mine alone, and do X-disclaimer-2: not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or X-disclaimer-3: company with which I am or have been affiliated. X-Stop-Spam: http://www.cauce.org/ From: dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling Coidan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= ) Date: 26 Aug 1998 21:26:47 +0200 In-Reply-To: Marko Schuetz's message of "Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:29:53 +0200 (MESZ)" Message-ID: Lines: 14 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id MAA29650 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Marko Schuetz writes: > [...] With the XF86Config from the previous install I tried > startx. I looked through the stuff that I downloaded and found that > the new XF86_SVGA did not have the setuid bit set as the old one > had. Setting it solved the problem for me. Now I am curious: should > 3.3.2 run without the setuid bit set? No. It was removed for a reason (it's a big security hole). Either start X as root, or use xdm. The latter is so useful and so easy to set up there's really no excuse for not using it. DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - dag-erli@ifi.uio.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 26 12:39:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02453 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:39:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.fcc.net (241.pearlriver.fcc.net [207.198.253.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02426 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:39:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nathan@fcc.net) Received: from noc.fcc.net (noc.fcc.net [207.198.253.18]) by mail.fcc.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA10227 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:36:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from nathan@localhost) by noc.fcc.net (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) id PAA04257 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:38:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19980826153806.A4191@fcc.net> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:38:06 -0400 From: Nathan Dorfman To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Bumping MAXLOGNAME? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is it safe to bump MAXLOGNAME in sys/param.h and expect to have 16 character usernames? We already have a good number of customers with usernames with lengths between 8 and 16 and need our new FreeBSD machines to understand these usernames. As -current runs with MAXLOGNAME==17, I don't see a problem with doing this on a -stable machine. Is there anywhere else I might need to change this, or any pitfalls I am missing? Thanks! -- Nathan Dorfman | Frontline Communications Corporation nathan@fcc.net | Pearl River, NY - 914-623-8559 -- linux/exit.h: -+---------------------------------------- #define exit(X); (X == 0 ? raise(SIGSEGV); : system("yes > /proc/self/mem");) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 26 12:43:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03184 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:43:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03165; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:43:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from archie@whistle.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id MAA11518; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:42:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bubba.whistle.com(207.76.205.7) by whistle.com via smap (V1.3) id sma011514; Wed Aug 26 12:42:29 1998 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id MAA23260; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:42:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199808261942.MAA23260@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: Warning: Change to netatalk's file name handling In-Reply-To: from Stefan Bethke at "Aug 25, 98 10:18:49 pm" To: stb@hanse.de (Stefan Bethke) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:42:29 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Stefan Bethke writes: > As you might be aware, Mac's tend to use characters in file names usually > not used on UN*X systems, namely in the range \0x01-\0x1F and \0x7f-\0xff. > > Especially annoing is the "Icon\0x0D" for Custom Icons on Folders or > Volumes. > > I will put a patch in the netatalk port that maps all characters outside > of \0x20 to \0x7E (aka isprint()) to the equivalent hex ":xx" sequence. I don't quite understand the motivation for changing netatalk. UNIX supports arbitrary characters in file names, so why not use it? If you want file names decoded in a directory listing, use "ls -B". Netatalk seems like the wrong place to modify behavior to solve this problem, which is a display problem, not an encoding problem. -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 26 13:48:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14196 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 13:48:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA13972; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 13:48:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA132860522; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:42:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:42:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola Reply-To: Bill Fumerola To: Dave Dittrich Cc: ports@openbsd.org, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Shared libraries in packages In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am currently running FreeBSD, which is where I wrote the port. billf@jade$ uname -a FreeBSD jade.chc-chimes.com 2.2.7-STABLE FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE #0: Mon Aug 17 10:00:36 EDT 1998 billf@jade.chc-chimes.com:/usr/cvs-update/src/sys/compile/JADED i386 See below.. On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, Dave Dittrich wrote: > I'm trying to load some of the network diagnostic tools, e.g. "ntop". > This package seems to want a shared library that doesn't exist anywhere I can > find: > > sunhost# ntop > /usr/libexec/ld.so: ntop: libpcap.so.2.2: No such file or directory > > sunhost# ldconfig -r | grep libpcap > 40:-lpcap.0.2 => /usr/lib/libpcap.so.0.2 billf@jade$ ldconfig -r | grep libpcap 118:-lpcap.2.2 => /usr/lib/libpcap.so.2.2 > sunhost# ls /usr/local/src | grep pcap > libpcap > libpcap-0.4 > pcapture-0.2.1 billf@jade$ pwd /usr/src/contrib/libpcap billf@jade$ cat README | head -7 @(#) $Header: README,v 1.15 96/07/07 22:38:34 leres Exp $ (LBL) LIBPCAP 0.2.1 Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory Network Research Group libpcap@ee.lbl.gov ftp://ftp.ee.lbl.gov/libpcap.tar.Z billf@jade$ > So the one that comes with OpenBSD is old (0.2) and that I have as a static > library is what I thought was the newest (the code from LLNL, the authors of > libpcap, is only version 0.4.) Where did 2.2 come from? I can't honestly say why FreeBSD installs it as 2.2, though I am crossposting this to see why... (hi guys)... > There are some other packages that have similar shared library > dependancies. What is the best solution for this (telling me to just get > source code is fine, I guess, but this seems like an issue that affects any > pre-compiled packages with shared libraries and will end up biting more people > than just me. Refresh my memory, if a program has 'shared libraries' then aren't they build INTO the binary, so there are no dependencies at runtime, though I could be wrong. Again, I am sincerly sorry it doesn't work "out of the box" with OpenBSD, and hopefully my crossposting will give you some closure. - bill fumerola [root/billf]@chc-chimes.com - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800)252.2421 x128 / bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - BF1560 - "Logic, like whiskey, loses its beneficial effect when taken in too large quantities" -Lord Dunsany To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 26 14:23:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22079 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:23:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22074 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:23:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA27519; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 13:51:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Eivind Eklund cc: Mark Murray , Roger Hardiman , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.8 release timetable (bt848 issue) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:51:29 +0200." <19980826155129.28885@follo.net> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 13:51:44 -0700 Message-ID: <27515.904164704@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > No, those are the snapshots - normally we do 6 months between > releases. 4 months now. We're trying to hit our original quarterly release schedule. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 26 14:23:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22211 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:23:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.119.24.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22198 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:23:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA13260; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 23:22:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id XAA01037; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 23:22:48 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19980826232248.00321@follo.net> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 23:22:48 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.8 release timetable (bt848 issue) References: <19980826155129.28885@follo.net> <27515.904164704@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <27515.904164704@time.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Wed, Aug 26, 1998 at 01:51:44PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Aug 26, 1998 at 01:51:44PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > No, those are the snapshots - normally we do 6 months between > > releases. > > 4 months now. We're trying to hit our original quarterly release > schedule. Does this mean we're targetting at having releases of -stable every 3 months from now on? Sounds ambitious... Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 26 14:53:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA27807 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:53:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA27800 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:53:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA27889; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:52:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Nathan Dorfman cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bumping MAXLOGNAME? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:38:06 EDT." <19980826153806.A4191@fcc.net> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:52:54 -0700 Message-ID: <27886.904168374@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Is it safe to bump MAXLOGNAME in sys/param.h and expect to have 16 > character usernames? We already have a good number of customers with username RTFM the FreeBSD FAQ, please. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 26 14:57:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA28326 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:57:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA28315 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:57:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA27941; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:56:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Eivind Eklund cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.8 release timetable (bt848 issue) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Aug 1998 23:22:48 +0200." <19980826232248.00321@follo.net> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:56:22 -0700 Message-ID: <27937.904168582@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hmm, I did say 4 months and then say quarterly, didn't I? :-) Sorry for the self-conflicting statement - I really did mean every 4 months, not every 3. That's 3 releases a year we're trying to do. - Jordan > On Wed, Aug 26, 1998 at 01:51:44PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > No, those are the snapshots - normally we do 6 months between > > > releases. > > > > 4 months now. We're trying to hit our original quarterly release > > schedule. > > Does this mean we're targetting at having releases of -stable every 3 > months from now on? Sounds ambitious... > > Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 26 15:30:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA04401 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:30:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from opus.cts.cwu.edu (opus.cts.cwu.edu [198.104.92.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA04371 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:30:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu) Received: from localhost (skynyrd@localhost) by opus.cts.cwu.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA02177; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:29:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:29:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Timmons To: Nathan Dorfman cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bumping MAXLOGNAME? In-Reply-To: <19980826153806.A4191@fcc.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think you might have to rebuild xterm if you are using XFree86 (otherwise the utmp entries are out of whack.) IIRC.... -Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 26 15:57:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA09482 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:57:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA09449; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:57:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from archie@whistle.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id PAA13715; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bubba.whistle.com(207.76.205.7) by whistle.com via smap (V1.3) id sma013713; Wed Aug 26 15:56:59 1998 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id PAA28628; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:56:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199808262256.PAA28628@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: Warning: Change to netatalk's file name handling In-Reply-To: <199808261942.MAA23260@bubba.whistle.com> from Archie Cobbs at "Aug 26, 98 12:42:29 pm" To: stb@hanse.de Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I wrote: > > As you might be aware, Mac's tend to use characters in file names usually > > not used on UN*X systems, namely in the range \0x01-\0x1F and \0x7f-\0xff. > > > > Especially annoing is the "Icon\0x0D" for Custom Icons on Folders or > > Volumes. > > > > I will put a patch in the netatalk port that maps all characters outside > > of \0x20 to \0x7E (aka isprint()) to the equivalent hex ":xx" sequence. > > I don't quite understand the motivation for changing netatalk. UNIX > supports arbitrary characters in file names, so why not use it? > > If you want file names decoded in a directory listing, use "ls -B". > > Netatalk seems like the wrong place to modify behavior to solve this > problem, which is a display problem, not an encoding problem. Or, at least make it controlled by a optional command line option... -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 26 16:45:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA18769 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 16:45:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fw.bby.com.au (ns.bby.com.au [192.83.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18705 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 16:45:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@bby.com.au) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by fw.bby.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) id JAA07592 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:44:24 +1000 (EST) Received: from melba.bby.com.au(192.43.186.1) via SMTP by fw.bby.com.au, id smtpd007590; Wed Aug 26 23:44:20 1998 Received: from lightning (lightning.bby.com.au [192.43.186.20]) by melba.bby.com.au (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id JAA19243 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:45:13 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199808262345.JAA19243@melba.bby.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.8 release timetable (bt848 issue) In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 26 Aug 1998 14:56:22 -0700. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:44:11 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Sorry for the self-conflicting statement - I really did mean every 4 > months, not every 3. That's 3 releases a year we're trying to do. > > - Jordan How will the switch to 3.0-release affect CD-ROM subscriptions? If I want to sign up to a subscription now and get the 3.0-release CDs when they are released, what do I ask for? And, two questions for the price of one, I'm proposing a new machine with a Millenium2-200 AGP video card. Is this well-supported by Xfree86? Greg. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 26 18:00:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA00596 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:00:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bamboo.verinet.com (bamboo.verinet.com [204.144.246.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA00497 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from allenc@verinet.com) Received: from struct. (tulip15.verinet.com [199.45.181.207]) by bamboo.verinet.com (8.8.8/8.7.1) with ESMTP id SAA31770 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:59:11 -0600 Received: from verinet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by struct. (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA10617 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:59:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from allenc@verinet.com) Message-ID: <35E4AF55.840BB785@verinet.com> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:59:01 -0600 From: Allen Campbell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b1 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.8 release timetable (bt848 issue) References: <27937.904168582@time.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Hmm, I did say 4 months and then say quarterly, didn't I? :-) > > Sorry for the self-conflicting statement - I really did mean every 4 > months, not every 3. That's 3 releases a year we're trying to do. > > - Jordan With 16 months in the BSD year, that would be 4 releases per year, one every four months. :) -- Allen Campbell | Amplify Chaos allenc@verinet.com | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 26 18:22:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA04438 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:22:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from B1FF.nas.nasa.gov (b1ff.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.34.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04386 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:22:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rone@B1FF.nas.nasa.gov) Received: (from rone@localhost) by B1FF.nas.nasa.gov (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA22353 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:21:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rone) From: Ron Echeverri Message-Id: <199808270121.SAA22353@B1FF.nas.nasa.gov> Subject: Re: 2.2.8 release timetable (bt848 issue) In-Reply-To: <199808262345.JAA19243@melba.bby.com.au> from Gregory Bond at "Aug 27, 98 09:44:11 am" To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:21:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gregory Bond writes: How will the switch to 3.0-release affect CD-ROM subscriptions? If I want to sign up to a subscription now and get the 3.0-release CDs when they are released, what do I ask for? Well, i got a note with my 2.2.7 CDs that offers as choices: - Send me 2.2.8 and January's 3.x release but NOT 3.0 (default) - Send me 3.0 and January's 3.x release but NOT 2.2.8 - Send me all three releases You can fax or phone or email with your choice by 10/1. rone -- Ron Echeverri Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation Facility DSS/Usenet Administrator NASA Ames Research Center Internet Sysop Mountain View, CA x42771 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 26 18:45:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA08041 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:45:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from russian-caravan.cloud9.net (russian-caravan.cloud9.net [168.100.1.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA08017 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:45:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scottd@cloud9.net) Received: from earl-grey.cloud9.net (IDENT:4FJsgiO8qM+9Igtiuy93w7uDRbZxbvrT@earl-grey.cloud9.net [168.100.1.1]) by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0/rc-19980602) with SMTP id VAA07238; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 21:43:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 21:43:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott Drassinower To: Mike Smith cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel 100+ troubles In-Reply-To: <199808251742.RAA01063@dingo.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > This looks like a known problem which was fixed literally just a few > days ago. It's timing sensitive, which is probably why you're only > seeing it at 100Mbps. The problem still exists. UID PID PPID CPU PRI NI VSZ RSS WCHAN STAT TT TIME COMMAND 100 408 395 0 -18 0 228 536 vmopar D+ p3 0:00.07 sz I upgraded the machine that this process is running on and a couple of other machines to 2.2.7-release. The machine I am running sz on has a 2.2.7-stable kernel. The machine that is serving this file via NFS is running 2.2.5-release, but is going to get 2.2.7 tomorrow probably. What exactly does vmopar mean? -- Scott M. Drassinower scottd@cloud9.net Cloud 9 Consulting, Inc. White Plains, NY +1 914 696-4000 http://www.cloud9.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 26 18:49:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA08659 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:49:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [207.217.224.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA08644 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:49:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [207.217.224.195]) by mail.westbend.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA28079; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 20:48:39 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <005e01bdd15c$af857f40$c3e0d9cf@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "Nathan Dorfman" Cc: Subject: Re: Bumping MAXLOGNAME? Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 20:47:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0518.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0518.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: Nathan Dorfman >Is it safe to bump MAXLOGNAME in sys/param.h and expect to have 16 >character usernames? We already have a good number of customers with usernames >with lengths between 8 and 16 and need our new FreeBSD machines to understand >these usernames. As -current runs with MAXLOGNAME==17, I don't see a problem >with doing this on a -stable machine. Is there anywhere else I might need >to change this, or any pitfalls I am missing? > There are several files that will need to be patched, and then a complete make world, and kernel re-build. I have done this on several 2.2-STABLE systems. 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Is this well-supported by Xfree86? I'm not too sure about the Millenium, but I don't think very many(any?) AGP cards are supported by XFree86. I use AccelX (www.xig.com) with my ATI Rage AGP card at work. If you get AccelX, be sure to keep up with the updates/patches, as my card didn't -initially- work, but after patching it up to date, it was just fine. - bill fumerola [root/billf]@chc-chimes.com - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800)252.2421 x128 / bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - BF1560 - "Logic, like whiskey, loses its beneficial effect when taken in too large quantities" -Lord Dunsany To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 26 19:40:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA16402 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 19:40:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA16383 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 19:40:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@cain.gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA04958; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 12:08:53 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199808270238.MAA04958@cain.gsoft.com.au> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 12:08:51 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" Subject: Re: 2.2.8 release timetable (bt848 issue) To: billf@chc-chimes.com cc: gnb@itga.com.au, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 26 Aug, Bill Fumerola wrote: > > And, two questions for the price of one, I'm proposing a new machine with a > > Millenium2-200 AGP video card. Is this well-supported by Xfree86? > I'm not too sure about the Millenium, but I don't think very many(any?) > AGP cards are supported by XFree86. I use AccelX (www.xig.com) with my ATI > Rage AGP card at work. The G100 & G200 aren't supported by XFree86 but are by Accelerated X.. The Matrox Millenium II AGP is supported by XFree86 though. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 26 20:11:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA20621 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 20:11:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA20610 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 20:11:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA28956; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 20:10:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Gregory Bond cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.8 release timetable (bt848 issue) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:44:11 +1000." <199808262345.JAA19243@melba.bby.com.au> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 20:10:41 -0700 Message-ID: <28952.904187441@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > How will the switch to 3.0-release affect CD-ROM subscriptions? If I want to > sign up to a subscription now and get the 3.0-release CDs when they are > released, what do I ask for? As the current subscription customers have already been informed, you can elect to have the 3.0 and 2.2.8 CDs (after which it's kinda moot since the 2.2 branch will be dead), just the 2.2.8 CD or just the 3.0 CD - they'll probably ask you that when you order the sub, in fact. > And, two questions for the price of one, I'm proposing a new machine with a > Millenium2-200 AGP video card. Is this well-supported by Xfree86? Yes, though I think the XiG product still has a bit of an edge there. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 26 20:16:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA21294 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 20:16:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [207.217.224.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA21285 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 20:15:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [207.217.224.195]) by mail.westbend.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA28297; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 22:15:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <018101bdd168$c0439360$c3e0d9cf@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "Nathan Dorfman" Cc: Subject: Re: Bumping MAXLOGNAME? Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 22:14:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0518.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0518.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: Scot W. Hetzel >In order to keep the src patched for long usernames when upgrading via >cvsup, I created a Makefile and patches that will change the above files. > >Scot > NOTE: I keep these patches in a sub directory (/usr/src/patches). Thus the usersize16/Makefile expects to be two directories below /usr/src. Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 26 20:33:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA23177 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 20:33:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA23172 for ; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 20:33:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA29078; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 20:32:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Bill Fumerola cc: Gregory Bond , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.8 release timetable (bt848 issue) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Aug 1998 20:49:53 EDT." Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 20:32:24 -0700 Message-ID: <29073.904188744@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I'm not too sure about the Millenium, but I don't think very many(any?) > AGP cards are supported by XFree86. I use AccelX (www.xig.com) with my ATI > Rage AGP card at work. To my knowledge, AGP cards look just like PCI cards as far as XFree86 is concerned. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 26 23:14:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA16013 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 23:14:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles320.castles.com [208.214.167.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA15999; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 23:14:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA01434; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 23:12:00 GMT (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199808262312.XAA01434@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Scott Drassinower cc: dg@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel 100+ troubles In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Aug 1998 21:43:52 -0400." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 23:11:58 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > > > This looks like a known problem which was fixed literally just a few > > days ago. It's timing sensitive, which is probably why you're only > > seeing it at 100Mbps. > > The problem still exists. > UID PID PPID CPU PRI NI VSZ RSS WCHAN STAT TT TIME COMMAND > 100 408 395 0 -18 0 228 536 vmopar D+ p3 0:00.07 sz > > I upgraded the machine that this process is running on and a couple of > other machines to 2.2.7-release. > > The machine I am running sz on has a 2.2.7-stable kernel. The machine > that is serving this file via NFS is running 2.2.5-release, but is going > to get 2.2.7 tomorrow probably. > > What exactly does vmopar mean? It's a unique name given to a particular state in which the kernel is waiting. In this case, it's inside the vm_object_page_remove() function. Please verify that the following files are at the stated version or above: Revision Path 1.28.2.8 src/sys/nfs/nfs_bio.c 1.65.2.3 src/sys/vm/vnode_pager.c (just to be sure that you're up to date). David; do you want to handle this one? -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 26 23:26:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA18009 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 23:26:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from russian-caravan.cloud9.net (russian-caravan.cloud9.net [168.100.1.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA18000; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 23:26:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scottd@cloud9.net) Received: from earl-grey.cloud9.net (IDENT:U05yII3bEsuE+XGmgYczkh3/kkHifeHl@earl-grey.cloud9.net [168.100.1.1]) by russian-caravan.cloud9.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0/rc-19980602) with SMTP id CAA24556; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 02:25:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 02:25:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott Drassinower To: Mike Smith cc: dg@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel 100+ troubles In-Reply-To: <199808262312.XAA01434@word.smith.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > Revision Path > 1.28.2.8 src/sys/nfs/nfs_bio.c > 1.65.2.3 src/sys/vm/vnode_pager.c > * $Id: nfs_bio.c,v 1.28.2.8 1998/08/16 00:09:03 dg Exp $ * $Id: vnode_pager.c,v 1.65.2.3 1998/08/16 00:09:07 dg Exp $ Could this problem be at all related to anything in the fxp driver? -- Scott M. Drassinower scottd@cloud9.net Cloud 9 Consulting, Inc. White Plains, NY +1 914 696-4000 http://www.cloud9.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Aug 26 23:31:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA18974 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 23:31:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles320.castles.com [208.214.167.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA18959; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 23:31:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA01592; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 23:29:10 GMT (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199808262329.XAA01592@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Scott Drassinower cc: Mike Smith , dg@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel 100+ troubles In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 27 Aug 1998 02:25:45 -0400." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 23:29:08 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > > > Revision Path > > 1.28.2.8 src/sys/nfs/nfs_bio.c > > 1.65.2.3 src/sys/vm/vnode_pager.c > > > > * $Id: nfs_bio.c,v 1.28.2.8 1998/08/16 00:09:03 dg Exp $ > * $Id: vnode_pager.c,v 1.65.2.3 1998/08/16 00:09:07 dg Exp $ > > Could this problem be at all related to anything in the fxp driver? It's theoretically possible, but highly unlikely. It'd have to be eating packets of just a specific type, although not absolutely identical. Using a different card might alter the timing so that your problem is not reproducible, however I am of the opinion that are one or more cases still outstanding from the above fix. David Greenman (dg@freebsd.org) was responsible for the previous fixes, hence my copying him on this. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 27 00:00:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA21847 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 00:00:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles320.castles.com [208.214.167.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA21836 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 00:00:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA01834; Wed, 26 Aug 1998 23:57:39 GMT (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199808262357.XAA01834@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Zach Heilig cc: Yoav Cohen-Sivan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.7 and user PPP lockups In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Aug 1998 00:21:27 EST." <19980826002127.A4522@znh.org.> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 23:57:38 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > It is a supposedly a "PnP" modem, but it is external (wonder how that > works...) It responds to the COM PnP protocol, enabling it to be automatically detected in the same fashion that moused(8) automatically detects PnP serial mice. (See my earlier comment inre: PnP terminology.) -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 27 07:30:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA17850 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 07:30:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spiv.fnal.gov (spiv.fnal.gov [131.225.124.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA17805 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 07:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from neswold@spiv.fnal.gov) Received: (from neswold@localhost) by spiv.fnal.gov (8.8.8/8.8.7) id JAA08604; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:29:16 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from neswold) Message-ID: <19980827092916.42082@spiv.fnal.gov> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:29:16 -0500 From: Rich Neswold To: Gregory Bond , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.8 release timetable (bt848 issue) Reply-To: neswold@fnal.gov Mail-Followup-To: Gregory Bond , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199808262345.JAA19243@melba.bby.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199808262345.JAA19243@melba.bby.com.au>; from Gregory Bond on Thu, Aug 27, 1998 at 09:44:11AM +1000 X-PGP-RSAfprint: 0A C8 A5 76 DF 8E E1 B3 F3 97 BE 73 DA CD 4B C9 X-PGP-RSAkey: http://www.mcs.net/~rneswold/www/pub.key X-Spambot-Food: abuse@localhost postmaster@localhost abuse@fbi.gov Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If memory serves, didn't Gregory Bond say: > > And, two questions for the price of one, I'm proposing a new machine with a > Millenium2-200 AGP video card. Is this well-supported by Xfree86? Check out http://www.suse.de/XSuSE/XSuSE_E.html. They recently (8/24) added a Matrox Millennium G200 AGP server. -- Rich ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Richard Neswold, Accelerator Div./Controls Dept | neswold@fnal.gov Fermilab, PO Box 500, MS 347, Batavia, IL 60510 | voice (630) 840-3454 'finger neswold@aduxb.fnal.gov' for PGP key | fax (630) 840-3093 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 27 07:42:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA19376 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 07:42:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spiv.fnal.gov (spiv.fnal.gov [131.225.124.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA19368 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 07:42:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from neswold@spiv.fnal.gov) Received: (from neswold@localhost) by spiv.fnal.gov (8.8.8/8.8.7) id JAA08628; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:41:33 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from neswold) Message-ID: <19980827094133.25886@spiv.fnal.gov> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:41:33 -0500 From: Rich Neswold To: Gregory Bond , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.8 release timetable (bt848 issue) Reply-To: neswold@fnal.gov Mail-Followup-To: Gregory Bond , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199808262345.JAA19243@melba.bby.com.au> <19980827092916.42082@spiv.fnal.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <19980827092916.42082@spiv.fnal.gov>; from Rich Neswold on Thu, Aug 27, 1998 at 09:29:16AM -0500 X-PGP-RSAfprint: 0A C8 A5 76 DF 8E E1 B3 F3 97 BE 73 DA CD 4B C9 X-PGP-RSAkey: http://www.mcs.net/~rneswold/www/pub.key X-Spambot-Food: abuse@localhost postmaster@localhost abuse@fbi.gov Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If memory serves, didn't Rich Neswold say: > If memory serves, didn't Gregory Bond say: > > > > And, two questions for the price of one, I'm proposing a new machine with a > > Millenium2-200 AGP video card. Is this well-supported by Xfree86? > > Check out http://www.suse.de/XSuSE/XSuSE_E.html. They recently (8/24) > added a Matrox Millennium G200 AGP server. Oops. It looks as though they don't, yet, have FreeBSD binaries for this server. -- Rich ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Richard Neswold, Accelerator Div./Controls Dept | neswold@fnal.gov Fermilab, PO Box 500, MS 347, Batavia, IL 60510 | voice (630) 840-3454 'finger neswold@aduxb.fnal.gov' for PGP key | fax (630) 840-3093 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 27 07:43:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA19561 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 07:43:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from www.communique.no (www.communique.no [193.212.204.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA19550 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 07:43:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from are@communique.no) Received: (qmail 13013 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Aug 1998 14:44:47 -0000 Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:44:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Are Bryne X-Sender: are@rune.communique.no To: Robert Swindells cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'make installworld' on empty machine (was: Making a local FreeBSD distribution?) In-Reply-To: <199808252038.VAA00457@fdy2.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: Organization: Communique DA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, Robert Swindells wrote: > > > > If your machines can NFS mount /usr/src and /usr/obj from the machine > > > > that's tracking -stable, you can then run 'make installworld' on the > > > > other machines, and not need to bother with needing to roll your own > > > > release. > > > > > > Right, I am already doing that. The problem is with entirely new > > > machines that don't have any OS whatsoever on them. > > >I tried asking for this feature on freebsd-conf (or -config ?) as a part > >of sysinstall a while ago. I received no replies. > > >Isn't this feasible? It would sure be handy and a real time saver. > > What's wrong with booting from floppy, partition and label the disks > then switch to the shell on VT4 and do the NFS mounts. > > This is what I do for new machines. So do I. The 'problem' is that for "make installworld" to run, it first needs several files that you must copy over from the buildserver. It's this first and _avoidable_ step that I'd rather do without. Are Bryne Communiqué DA Phone: +47 22 44 33 99 Parkveien 51b E-mail: admin@communique.no N-0256 Oslo URL: http://www.communique.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 27 09:50:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA08385 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:50:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from antiochus-fe0.ultra.net (antiochus-fe0.ultra.net [146.115.8.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08312 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:49:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from moncrg@ma.ultranet.com) Received: from ma.ultranet.com (d119.dial-6.cmb.ma.ultra.net [209.6.69.119]) by antiochus-fe0.ultra.net (8.8.8/ult.n14767) with ESMTP id MAB06591 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 12:49:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35E59C42.8D9286B5@ma.ultranet.com> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 12:49:54 -0500 From: "Gregory D. Moncreaff" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Is this list alive Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I appologize for the test message, its just that I subscribed 6/19 and haven't seen a single message -g To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 27 10:15:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12424 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:15:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from seagull.rtd.com (seagull.rtd.com [198.102.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12392 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:15:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tony@rtd.com) Received: (from tony@localhost) by seagull.rtd.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA18781 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:14:09 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:14:09 -0700 (MST) From: Tony Jones Message-Id: <199808271714.KAA18781@seagull.rtd.com> To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: WWW problem with 2.2-stable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Has anyone else experienced problems connecting to Altavista ? Initially the problem showed up when browing their Usenet archives (www2.altavista.digital.com), it would connect (netstat shows socket in connected state) but no data would ever be recieved (confirmed by modem lights). Eventually Netscape just times out. Once in a blue moon, it'll work, but 99% of the time, it fails as above. This has been happening for the past 4/5 months for me. Lately, I'll get the same problem when connecting to their main WWW archive. Initially it will work fine, but after 10 or so lookups, it just stops responsing (as above). I don't think it's a problem with my ISP as if I reboot into WinNT using Internet Explorer, it works just fine (same account etc). I'm running the Linux version of NS 4.0, but I tried going back to an old x86-BSD version of NS 3.0 and had exactly the same problem. I just upgraded to the latest version of -stable but the problem persists. Anyone got any trouble shooting tips (I'm wondering if I need to change some tcp options). I sent e-mail to the Altavista support folks a couple of times but never got a reply. Thanks Tony To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 27 10:44:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17464 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:44:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from laker.net (jet.laker.net [205.245.74.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17399 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:44:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sfriedri@laker.net) Received: from nt (digital-pbi-120.laker.net [208.0.233.20]) by laker.net (8.9.0/8.9.LAKERNET.NO-SPAM.SPAMMERS.AND.RELAYS.WILL.BE.TRACKED.AND.PROSECUTED.) with SMTP id NAA02005; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:43:06 -0400 Message-Id: <199808271743.NAA02005@laker.net> From: "Steve Friedrich" To: "Gregory D. Moncreaff" Cc: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:43:33 -0500 Reply-To: "Steve Friedrich" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.00.1500) For Windows NT (4.0.1381;3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Is this list alive Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 27 Aug 1998 12:49:54 -0500, Gregory D. Moncreaff wrote: >I appologize for the test message, its just that >I subscribed 6/19 and haven't >seen a single message Many of the freebsd lists will send back to you an email stating that you must send back an auth code. This is to prevent people who want to harrass you from signing you up for every list they can find. When the email comes back, it with have an auth code and your info. Just cut it out and send it back. Beware, there are things you could do that will prevent it from working. They describe some of this in the email sent to you. You might want to peruse your old mail and see if there was a confirmation email that you never sent back... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 27 11:20:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24509 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 11:20:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24491 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 11:20:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA026768145; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:15:45 -0400 Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:15:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.8 release timetable (bt848 issue) In-Reply-To: <29073.904188744@time.cdrom.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The computer I have AccelX running on is my first experience with X, so I'm by no means an 'expert' or even a 'power user' with X, but I couldn't get any high resolution graphics working with X, because my ATI Rage Pro card wasn't supported, and I tried quite a few servers. It could just be me, though. :> On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > I'm not too sure about the Millenium, but I don't think very many(any?) > > AGP cards are supported by XFree86. I use AccelX (www.xig.com) with my ATI > > Rage AGP card at work. > > To my knowledge, AGP cards look just like PCI cards as far as XFree86 > is concerned. - bill fumerola [root/billf]@chc-chimes.com - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800)252.2421 x128 / bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - BF1560 - "Logic, like whiskey, loses its beneficial effect when taken in too large quantities" -Lord Dunsany To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 27 11:37:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA27807 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 11:37:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nz15.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (nz15.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.64.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA27772 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 11:37:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from un1i@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) Received: from rz114s1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (exim@rz114s1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.92.3]) by nz15.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with smtp id 0zC6tc-0004ty-00; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 20:35:44 +0200 Received: from un1i by rz114s1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with local (Exim 1.80 #5) id 0zC6tZ-0001XQ-00; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 20:35:41 +0200 Message-ID: <19980827203539.B5247@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 20:35:39 +0200 From: Philipp Mergenthaler To: "Gregory D. Moncreaff" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is this list alive References: <35E59C42.8D9286B5@ma.ultranet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <35E59C42.8D9286B5@ma.ultranet.com>; from Gregory D. Moncreaff on Thu, Aug 27, 1998 at 12:49:54PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Thu, Aug 27, 1998 at 12:49:54PM -0500, Gregory D. Moncreaff wrote: > I appologize for the test message, its just that > I subscribed 6/19 and haven't > seen a single message I think there was a hiccup some month ago (the mailserver broke down and the lists had to be restored from backup or something like that). The active list is now "freebsd-stable" (and "current" changed to "freebsd-current"). Bye, Philipp -- P. Mergenthaler, un1i@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de, http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~un1i/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 27 12:00:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02810 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 12:00:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from www.communique.no (www.communique.no [193.212.204.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA02791 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 12:00:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from are@communique.no) Received: (qmail 14088 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Aug 1998 19:02:00 -0000 Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 21:02:00 +0200 (CEST) From: Are Bryne To: FreeBSD stable list Subject: make depend falls over Message-ID: Organization: Communique DA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I just finished a make buildworld, then make installworld on a system. Now I'm trying to compile a new kernel. After the 'config MACHINE_NAME', I've been trying to do 'make depend'. This doesn't work, telling me: make -f ../../dev/aic7xxx/Makefile MAKESRCPATH=../../dev/aic7xxx Warning: Object directory not changed from original /sys/compile/RUNE cc -O -pipe -I. -c aicasm_scan.c ../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_scan.l: In function `yylex': ../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_scan.l:68: `T_DOWNLOAD' undeclared (first use this function) ../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_scan.l:68: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_scan.l:68: for each function it appears in.) *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. Do you have any ideas as to what is wrong? Is it just a temporary glitch in the someone's code, or might I be to blame? I tried poking, but to no avail... TIA. Regards, Are Bryne Communiqué DA Phone: +47 22 44 33 99 Parkveien 51b E-mail: admin@communique.no N-0256 Oslo URL: http://www.communique.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 27 12:11:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA04711 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 12:11:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server.amis.net (server.amis.net [195.10.52.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04647 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 12:11:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blaz@gold.amis.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by server.amis.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id VAA10059 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 21:10:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (blaz@localhost) by gold.amis.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA01601 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 21:09:49 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 21:09:49 +0200 (CEST) From: Blaz Zupan To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: sysinstall upgrade option Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I usually upgrade with make world, but just for the sake of it, I tried the sysinstall "upgrade" option when my 2.2.7 subscription CD arrived. I was looking at the alt-F2 screen and the filenames scrolling by, when I noticed a warning about cpio being unable to replace libc.so.3.1. I believe the problem is being caused by make world doing a chflags schg on the file. This could later lead to problems. sysinstall should be removing noschg on all files in /usr/lib before running cpio. Blaz Zupan, blaz@medinet.si, http://home.amis.net/blaz Medinet d.o.o., Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 27 12:12:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA04918 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 12:12:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from atec.atecsecure.com (atec.atecsecure.com [216.0.11.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04857 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 12:12:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@atecsecure.com) From: joe@atecsecure.com Received: from atecsecure (joe [216.0.11.67]) by atec.atecsecure.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA02712 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:09:45 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from joe@atecsecure.com) Message-ID: <35BCD185.49A8@atecsecure.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 14:14:13 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: send info Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG send info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 27 13:28:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA22712 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:28:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from www.communique.no (www.communique.no [193.212.204.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA22640 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:28:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from are@communique.no) Received: (qmail 267 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Aug 1998 20:29:41 -0000 Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 22:29:41 +0200 (CEST) From: Are Bryne To: FreeBSD stable list Subject: Re: make depend falls over (fixed) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Communique DA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry about that, It seems there was some old lint lying around in /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/. I deleted the contents, cvsupped again, and voila! things were ok. Back to ... etc. Are On Thu, 27 Aug 1998, Are Bryne wrote: > Hi, > > I just finished a make buildworld, then make installworld on a system. Now > I'm trying to compile a new kernel. After the 'config MACHINE_NAME', I've > been trying to do 'make depend'. > > This doesn't work, telling me: > > make -f ../../dev/aic7xxx/Makefile MAKESRCPATH=../../dev/aic7xxx > Warning: Object directory not changed from original /sys/compile/RUNE > cc -O -pipe -I. -c aicasm_scan.c > ../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_scan.l: In function `yylex': > ../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_scan.l:68: `T_DOWNLOAD' undeclared (first use > this function) > ../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_scan.l:68: (Each undeclared identifier is > reported only once > ../../dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_scan.l:68: for each function it appears in.) > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > > Do you have any ideas as to what is wrong? Is it just a temporary glitch > in the someone's code, or might I be to blame? I tried poking, but to no > avail... > > TIA. > > Regards, > Are Bryne > Communiqué DA Phone: +47 22 44 33 99 > Parkveien 51b E-mail: admin@communique.no > N-0256 Oslo URL: http://www.communique.no > > Communiqué DA Phone: +47 22 44 33 99 Parkveien 51b E-mail: admin@communique.no N-0256 Oslo URL: http://www.communique.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 27 14:01:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA28642 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 14:01:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt053nb4.san.rr.com (dt053nb4.san.rr.com [204.210.34.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA28574 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 14:00:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Received: from dal.net (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt053nb4.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08210; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:59:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Message-ID: <35E5C8BF.B253D030@dal.net> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:59:43 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE-0823 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Scot W. Hetzel" CC: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bumping MAXLOGNAME? References: <005e01bdd15c$af857f40$c3e0d9cf@westbend.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Scot W. Hetzel wrote: > I have done this on several 2.2-STABLE systems. You'll need to patch > adduser.perl, rmuser.perl, param.h, stdio.h, and utmp.h. I'm curious as to why you've had to patch stdio.h. I've been using 16 char usernames on -Stable for a year now and never (TMK) ran into a problem with it. Thanks, Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** When you don't know where you're going, every road will take you there. - Yiddish Proverb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 27 14:09:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA00717 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 14:09:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt053nb4.san.rr.com (dt053nb4.san.rr.com [204.210.34.180] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00693 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 14:09:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Received: from dal.net (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt053nb4.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08295; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 14:07:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Message-ID: <35E5CAAD.97F3A163@dal.net> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 14:07:57 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE-0823 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nathan Dorfman CC: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bumping MAXLOGNAME? References: <19980826153806.A4191@fcc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nathan Dorfman wrote: > > Is it safe to bump MAXLOGNAME in sys/param.h and expect to have 16 > character usernames? We already have a good number of customers with usernames > with lengths between 8 and 16 and need our new FreeBSD machines to understand > these usernames. As -current runs with MAXLOGNAME==17, I don't see a problem > with doing this on a -stable machine. Is there anywhere else I might need > to change this, or any pitfalls I am missing? Here's my standard response. The convo about stdio.h might be important as well, stay tuned. :) Doug You will need to change a couple files and use "make world" to recompile the system for the larger usernames. Any third party utilities that use usernames like ssh or xterm will also have to be recompiled after the make world is done. The good news is that it works just fine, I have been running -Stable with 16 char usernames for over a year now. In /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h: change MAXLOGNAME to 18 In /usr/src/include/utmp.h: change UT_NAMESIZE to 16 If you need help with the make world, take a look at http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html and click on the Upgrading FreeBSD from source (using make world) tutorial. After you're done with this some utilities like adduser and rmuser will have to be modified by hand to support the long usernames, but we're working on making these fewer and farther between as time goes on. :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 27 14:31:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA04075 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 14:31:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA04048 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 14:31:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Received: from we.lc.ehu.es by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA14969; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 23:30:33 +0200 Message-ID: <35E5CFF8.B409389F@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 23:30:32 +0200 From: "Jose M. Alcaide" Organization: Universidad del País Vasco - Dept. Electricidad y Electrónica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gregory Bond CC: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.8 release timetable (bt848 issue) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bill Fumerola wrote: > > On Thu, 27 Aug 1998, Gregory Bond wrote: > > > And, two questions for the price of one, I'm proposing a new machine with a > > Millenium2-200 AGP video card. Is this well-supported by Xfree86? > > I'm not too sure about the Millenium, but I don't think very many(any?) > AGP cards are supported by XFree86. I use AccelX (www.xig.com) with my ATI > Rage AGP card at work. > The Matrox Millennium II AGP _is_ supported by XFree86 3.3.2 (SVGA server). I have that card, and it's FAST. However, the G200 is not yet supported by XFree86. Go to http://matrox.alloy.net/. -- JM ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Jose M. Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es Universidad del Pais Vasco | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose Dpto. de Electricidad y Electronica | Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-944647700 x2624 48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-944858139 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Go ahead... make my day." - H. Callahan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 27 16:41:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA27392 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:41:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fw.bby.com.au (ns.bby.com.au [192.83.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27332 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:41:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@bby.com.au) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by fw.bby.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) id JAA17191; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 09:40:06 +1000 (EST) Received: from melba.bby.com.au(192.43.186.1) via SMTP by fw.bby.com.au, id smtpd017183; Thu Aug 27 23:40:04 1998 Received: from lightning (lightning.bby.com.au [192.43.186.20]) by melba.bby.com.au (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id JAA18608; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 09:41:02 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199808272341.JAA18608@melba.bby.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: "Jose M. Alcaide" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.8 release timetable (bt848 issue) In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 27 Aug 1998 23:30:32 +0200. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 09:40:00 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > The Matrox Millennium II AGP _is_ supported by XFree86 3.3.2 (SVGA > server). I have that card, and it's FAST. However, the G200 is > not yet supported by XFree86. Go to http://matrox.alloy.net/. One thing I have not been able to determine: Is the G200 upwards-compatible from the M-II? I.e. does "not yet supported" means "runs as an M-II but not as fast as it will when we have G200 support" or "pretends it's a VGA card"? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 27 17:33:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA07377 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 17:33:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from calis.BlackSun.org (slip-ppp-4-198.escape.com [205.160.46.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA07290 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 17:32:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from don@calis.BlackSun.org) Received: from localhost (don@localhost) by calis.BlackSun.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA02127 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 20:32:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from don@calis.BlackSun.org) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 20:32:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Don To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Postings not related to charter Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I do not mean to be rude but I think the discussion of the Matrox G200 and the Millenium 2 graphics cards is a little bit off topic for this list. It seems to be concerned with XFree86 support and not FreeBSD-STABLE support for the cards. Shouldnt such a posting be directed to (for example) the XFree86 project mailing lists? Also would it be possible to have a relevant subject line. All of the recent mail concerning the graphics cards has had a topic related to the upcoming release of 2.2.8. It seems a little unrelated. Sincerely, Donald Stahl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 27 17:41:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA08909 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 17:41:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA08863 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 17:41:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcwells@u.washington.edu) Received: from saul4.u.washington.edu (root@saul4.u.washington.edu [140.142.83.2]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA15936; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 17:40:08 -0700 Received: from s8-37-26.student.washington.edu (S8-37-26.student.washington.edu [128.208.37.26]) by saul4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id RAA16214; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 17:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 17:36:20 +0000 (GMT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jason@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu To: joe@atecsecure.com cc: FreeBSD-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: send info In-Reply-To: <35BCD185.49A8@atecsecure.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 27 Jul 1998 joe@atecsecure.com wrote: >send info First there were the dinosaurs, but they died. Then cames the Arabs and they took all the oil... Did you want to know something in particular? Catchya Later, | UW Mechanical Engineering Jason Wells | http://weber.u.washington.edu/~jcwells/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 27 18:04:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA13001 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 18:04:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA12954 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 18:04:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA16756; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 18:03:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Blaz Zupan cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sysinstall upgrade option In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 27 Aug 1998 21:09:49 +0200." Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 18:03:21 -0700 Message-ID: <16752.904266201@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > sysinstall should be removing noschg on all files in /usr/lib before > running cpio. Right you are, fixed! Thanks. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 27 18:25:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA17147 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 18:25:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [207.217.224.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA17115 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 18:25:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [207.217.224.195]) by mail.westbend.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA03598 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 20:24:27 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <000f01bdd222$786751c0$c3e0d9cf@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "FreeBSD-Stable" Subject: Re: Bumping MAXLOGNAME? Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 20:23:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0518.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0518.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: Studded >Scot W. Hetzel wrote: > >> I have done this on several 2.2-STABLE systems. You'll need to patch >> adduser.perl, rmuser.perl, param.h, stdio.h, and utmp.h. > > I'm curious as to why you've had to patch stdio.h. I've been using 16 >char usernames on -Stable for a year now and never (TMK) ran into a >problem with it. > It was mentioned in one of the posts to the stable/questions list on how to set up 16 character usernames for 2.2-STABLE. And when reviewing stdio.h, it says that L_cuserid is supposed to be UT_NAMESIZE + 1, and to look at utmp.h for UT_NAMESIZE. Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 27 19:54:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA03723 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 19:54:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA03587 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 1998 19:53:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain [203.38.152.97]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA23516; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 12:22:13 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199808272341.JAA18608@melba.bby.com.au> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 12:22:13 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Gregory Bond Subject: Re: 2.2.8 release timetable (bt848 issue) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "Jose M. Alcaide" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 27-Aug-98 Gregory Bond wrote: > One thing I have not been able to determine: Is the G200 upwards-compatible > from the M-II? I.e. does "not yet supported" means "runs as an M-II but not > as fast as it will when we have G200 support" or "pretends it's a VGA card"? no it is a different beast.. I found this out the hard way :) The G100 & G200 are incomptible with the Matrox Millenium II AGP. Te MM-II AGP works with XF86 though. --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 28 04:12:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA05051 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 04:12:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from oak.oakwood.k12.oh.us (oak.oakwood.k12.oh.us [156.63.171.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA05045 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 04:12:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwhite@oak.oakwood.k12.oh.us) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by oak.oakwood.k12.oh.us (8.8.8/8.8.7) id HAA09013; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 07:12:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwhite@oak.oakwood.k12.oh.us) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 07:12:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt White Message-Id: <199808281112.HAA09013@oak.oakwood.k12.oh.us> X-Authentication-Warning: oak.oakwood.k12.oh.us: nobody set sender to mwhite@oak.oakwood.k12.oh.us using -f To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: IMP/PHP3 Imap webMail Program 1.5 Subject: mysql on 2.2.7? Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello... I don't know if this is the right place to ask about this, but I can't seem to g +et much help anywhere else. (The mysql FAQs don't seem to cover this problem.) + I'm trying to get mysql to run on FreeBSD 2.2.7. It compiles cleanly, and instal +ls cleanly, but whenever I try to run it mysqld will crash and dump core as soo +n as something connects to it. I have followed the mysql install directions and compiled mysql with "mit-thread +s", but it still does not want to work. I have tried compiling it on two diffen +t boxes (both running -STABLE) with the exact same results. The port of mysql is marked as "broken." Am I fighting a loosing battle, or has anyone gotten mysql (well, based off the +version of the code offered on their website right now (http://www.tcx.se)) to +actually work under 2.2.27? Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 28 05:04:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA09630 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 05:04:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from iglou.com (iglou2.iglou.com [192.107.41.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA09625 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 05:04:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patrick@cre8tivegroup.com) Received: from [204.255.227.129] (helo=gateway.cre8tivegroup.com) by iglou.com with esmtp (8.9.1/8.9.1) id 0zCNFW-0005S0-00; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 08:03:27 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199808281112.HAA09013@oak.oakwood.k12.oh.us> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 08:03:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Patrick Gardella To: Matt White Subject: RE: mysql on 2.2.7? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 28-Aug-98 Matt White wrote: > Hello... Matt, I can assure you that mysql indeed does work, and work well under 2.2.7 and -STABLE. I've got it running here right now. I used the port, too. Are you starting mysqld with the script they provide? Check /usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql.sh The script uses /usr/local/bin/safe_mysqld to run. When I have started mysql, I've noticed that it gives me a message that mysql core dumps, but then when I check, it's running fine. I don't know why, but it works. Patrick P.S. mysql-3.21.30 on FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE (081298). > I don't know if this is the right place to ask about this, but I can't seem > to get much help anywhere else. (The mysql FAQs don't seem to cover this > problem.) > > I'm trying to get mysql to run on FreeBSD 2.2.7. It compiles cleanly, and > installs cleanly, but whenever I try to run it mysqld will crash and dump > core as soon as something connects to it. > > I have followed the mysql install directions and compiled mysql with > "mit-thread+s", but it still does not want to work. I have tried compiling it > on two diffent boxes (both running -STABLE) with the exact same results. > > The port of mysql is marked as "broken." > > Am I fighting a loosing battle, or has anyone gotten mysql (well, based off > the version of the code offered on their website right now > (http://www.tcx.se)) to actually work under 2.2.27? > Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 28 05:12:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA10139 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 05:12:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from not.caput.dk ([194.182.253.167]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA10132 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 05:12:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cedric@caput.com) Received: (from cedric@localhost) by not.caput.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA00668; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 14:24:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from cedric) Message-ID: <19980828142413.A608@caput.com> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 14:24:13 +0200 From: Cedric Valignat To: Matt White , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mysql on 2.2.7? References: <199808281112.HAA09013@oak.oakwood.k12.oh.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199808281112.HAA09013@oak.oakwood.k12.oh.us>; from Matt White on Fri, Aug 28, 1998 at 07:12:02AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, to make it work you have to use the libc_r to do that you have to run the "configure" script with the following option : --with-named-thread-libs='-lc_r' i'm not sure that this lib is install by default in 2.2.7, if it's not you will find it in the "/usr/src/lib/libc_r" directorie Good luck :-) Matt White wrote: > Hello... > > I don't know if this is the right place to ask about this, but I can't seem > to get much help anywhere else. (The mysql FAQs don't seem to cover this > problem.) > > I'm trying to get mysql to run on FreeBSD 2.2.7. It compiles cleanly, and > installs cleanly, but whenever I try to run it mysqld will crash and dump > core as soon as something connects to it. > > I have followed the mysql install directions and compiled mysql with > "mit-threads", but it still does not want to work. I have tried compiling it > on two diffent boxes (both running -STABLE) with the exact same results. > > The port of mysql is marked as "broken." > > Am I fighting a loosing battle, or has anyone gotten mysql (well, based off > the version of the code offered on their website right now (http://www.tcx.se) > ) to actually work under 2.2.27? -- Cedric Valignat To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 28 05:30:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA11433 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 05:30:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spooky.rwwa.com (rwwa.com [198.115.177.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA11426 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 05:30:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from witr@rwwa.com) Received: from spooky.rwwa.com (localhost.rwwa.com [127.0.0.1]) by spooky.rwwa.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA29642; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 08:30:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from witr@rwwa.com) Message-Id: <199808281230.IAA29642@spooky.rwwa.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Mike Smith cc: Robert Withrow , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Xfree86 server doesn't recover after sleep In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 21 Aug 1998 17:17:43 -0000." <199808211717.RAA10978@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 08:30:52 -0400 From: Robert Withrow Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG mike@smith.net.au said: :- If you try swapping to a text console, then back, does the screen :- recover? No. In fact, just switching from the X screen to a text console and back (without sleeping) causes the X screen to change (apparently) the timings, since it ceases to be stable and it "wiggles" when I move the cursor. (Note, however, this effect is not visible on the LCD. You have to be (also) using an external VGA port to see it. The "zzz" effect *is* visible on both the LCD and the VGA.) Resetting the server restores the "correct" timings. In the "zzz" case, after restarting the machine from the X screen, I have "garbage" on the screen. When switching to a text console and back (which produces a nice color show), I simply get a blank LCD screen. :- If you swap to a text console before 'zzz'ing, can you swap back to X :- and have it work? Yes, with the above caveat. :- Ultimately, it's a BIOS issue (the BIOS is expected to restore the :- display hardware state). Seems to not be restoring everything. Is there any way I can collect all "state" beforehand and after to document this, and complain to Gateway? (Snort Snort Chortle Chortle) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Withrow, R.W. Withrow Associates, Swampscott MA, witr@rwwa.COM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 28 08:11:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA28811 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 08:11:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA28803 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 08:11:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 0zCQAi-0006FU-00; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 08:10:40 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 08:10:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Matt White cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mysql on 2.2.7? In-Reply-To: <199808281112.HAA09013@oak.oakwood.k12.oh.us> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 28 Aug 1998, Matt White wrote: > Am I fighting a loosing battle, or has anyone gotten mysql (well, based off the > +version of the code offered on their website right now (http://www.tcx.se)) to > +actually work under 2.2.27? I've got this running. I have had mysql running for some time now. What version are you compiling? Lots of people are running mysql under FreeBSD, so I'm not sure what is wrong with you setup. > Matt Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 28 11:17:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26664 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 11:17:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hackerz.org (hackerz.org [209.31.146.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26659 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 11:17:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randy@hackerz.org) Received: (from randy@localhost) by hackerz.org (8.9.0/8.9.0) id OAA22092; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 14:18:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19980828141856.08268@hackerz.org> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 14:18:56 -0400 From: Charles Quarri To: David Kelly Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Making a local FreeBSD distribution? References: <199808260110.UAA02700@nospam.hiwaay.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: <199808260110.UAA02700@nospam.hiwaay.net>; from David Kelly on Tue, Aug 25, 1998 at 08:10:09PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoting David Kelly (dkelly@hiwaay.net): > > Then just to make sure I never forget (again), in /root/.cshrc I put the > following: > > # for "make release" > setenv CHROOTDIR /home/release > setenv BUILDNAME 2.2.7-dmk > setenv CVSROOT /home/ncvs > setenv RELEASETAG RELENG_2_2 This fixed my problem, I was missing the RELEASETAG. Now I just a little worried about some of the releases I made for 2.2.6 line. ;-) Thanks again for all the help. C. Quarri To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 28 13:16:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14350 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 13:16:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from june.cs.washington.edu (june.cs.washington.edu [128.95.1.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14327 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 13:16:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wolman@cs.washington.edu) Received: from miles.cs.washington.edu (miles.cs.washington.edu [128.95.4.177]) by june.cs.washington.edu (8.8.7+CS/7.2ju) with ESMTP id NAA05060; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 13:15:45 -0700 Received: from miles.cs.washington.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by miles.cs.washington.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09561; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 13:15:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wolman@miles.cs.washington.edu) Message-Id: <199808282015.NAA09561@miles.cs.washington.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Cedric Valignat cc: Matt White , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mysql on 2.2.7? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 28 Aug 1998 14:24:13 +0200." <19980828142413.A608@caput.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 13:15:35 -0700 From: "Alec Wolman" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Hi, > > to make it work you have to use the libc_r > > to do that you have to run the "configure" script with the following option : > > --with-named-thread-libs='-lc_r' > > i'm not sure that this lib is install by default in 2.2.7, if it's not you > will find it in the "/usr/src/lib/libc_r" directorie > > Good luck :-) I've had some minor problems when using MySQL 3.22.4a and FreeBSD 2.2.7 with the --with-named-thread-libs='-lc_r' configuration option. In particular, the mysqladmin shutdown function does not work properly. There have been some changes recently committed to the libc_r code in -current which should fix these signal handling problems, but it does not appear that these same changes have been committed to -stable. Alec To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 28 18:19:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA20742 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 18:19:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from garman.dyn.ml.org ([192.195.231.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA20736 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 18:19:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garman@earthling.net) From: garman@earthling.net Received: (qmail 17486 invoked by uid 1000); 29 Aug 1998 01:18:47 -0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 21:18:47 -0400 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: quick wd error question X-Mailer: Mutt 0.58 Mime-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: garman@earthling.net X-Phase-Of-Moon: The Moon is Waxing Crescent (32% of Full) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/i386 2.2-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just got this error from the wd driver, wondering if its a message of impending doom or something I can ignore for the moment... wd0: interrupt timeout: wd0: status 50 error 68 I guess if it only happens once it shouldn't be bad, just wondering :) -- Jason Garman http://garman.dyn.ml.org/ Student, University of Maryland garman@earthling.net And now... for the quote-of-the-week: Whois: JAG145 "If you took away their bikinis and their thongs, it is about a team doing good things." -- Army public affairs director on "Baywatch" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 28 22:16:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA11856 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 22:16:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles244.castles.com [208.214.165.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA11832 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 22:16:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA00609; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 22:13:25 GMT (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199808282213.WAA00609@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: garman@earthling.net cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: quick wd error question In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 28 Aug 1998 21:18:47 -0400." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 22:13:24 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I just got this error from the wd driver, wondering if its a message of > impending doom or something I can ignore for the moment... > > wd0: interrupt timeout: > wd0: status 50 error 68 > > I guess if it only happens once it shouldn't be bad, just wondering :) It's not good; the interrupt timeout means that we gave up before the disk had finished trying to recover from an error. The error itself is a bit ugly, but if it's not recurring, it means the disk was able to recover. Keep an eye on it; if you see more of these, start backing up and looking for a new disk. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Aug 28 22:48:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA15285 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 22:48:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles244.castles.com [208.214.165.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA15262 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 22:48:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA00845; Fri, 28 Aug 1998 22:44:34 GMT (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199808282244.WAA00845@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Robert Withrow cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Xfree86 server doesn't recover after sleep In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 28 Aug 1998 08:30:52 -0400." <199808281230.IAA29642@spooky.rwwa.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 22:44:33 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > mike@smith.net.au said: > :- If you try swapping to a text console, then back, does the screen > :- recover? > > No. In fact, just switching from the X screen to a text console and > back (without sleeping) causes the X screen to change (apparently) > the timings, since it ceases to be stable and it "wiggles" when > I move the cursor. (Note, however, this effect is not visible on > the LCD. You have to be (also) using an external VGA port to see it. > The "zzz" effect *is* visible on both the LCD and the VGA.) Resetting > the server restores the "correct" timings. ... but is a bit unfriendly. It looks like there's some state not restored in the switch to/from text mode, perhaps. This is something you'll have to take up with the XFree86 folks. > :- Ultimately, it's a BIOS issue (the BIOS is expected to restore the > :- display hardware state). > > Seems to not be restoring everything. Is there any way I can collect > all "state" beforehand and after to document this, and complain to Gateway? > (Snort Snort Chortle Chortle) Unlikely. Better to talk to the XFree86 folks, and if you have a chance, look at the driver yourself. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 29 07:00:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA28371 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 07:00:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from oak.oakwood.k12.oh.us (oak.oakwood.k12.oh.us [156.63.171.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28363 for ; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 07:00:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwhite@oak.oakwood.k12.oh.us) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by oak.oakwood.k12.oh.us (8.8.8/8.8.7) id JAA03642; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 09:59:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwhite@oak.oakwood.k12.oh.us) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 09:59:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt White Message-Id: <199808291359.JAA03642@oak.oakwood.k12.oh.us> X-Authentication-Warning: oak.oakwood.k12.oh.us: nobody set sender to mwhite@oak.oakwood.k12.oh.us using -f To: Cedric Valignat , Matt White , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: IMP/PHP3 Imap webMail Program 1.5 Subject: Re: Re: mysql on 2.2.7? Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoting Cedric Valignat : > to make it work you have to use the libc_r > > to do that you have to run the "configure" script with the following option > + : > > --with-named-thread-libs='-lc_r' > > i'm not sure that this lib is install by default in 2.2.7, if it's not you > will find it in the "/usr/src/lib/libc_r" directorie This worked. mysql still dumps core every now and then, but it restarts itself and continues + running as if nothing had happened. At the very least, I am able to connect to + it and pull requests off of it -- before I couldn't even connect without it dumping core. No, libc_r is not installed by default but installing it is a simple matter. (cd + /usr/src/lib/libc_r ; make all install) I suppose I should write to the mysql team and please ask them to update their + documentation for mysql on FreeBSD 2.2.7. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 29 09:34:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11148 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 09:34:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.itep.ru (ns.itep.ru [193.124.224.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11143 for ; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 09:34:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Fedor.Gubarev@itep.ru) Received: from raven.itep.ru (raven.itep.ru [193.124.227.26]) by ns.itep.ru (8.8.5-MVC-ITEP-100697/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA26043 for ; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 20:34:39 +0300 (GMT+0300) Received: from localhost (gubarev@localhost) by raven.itep.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA08972 for ; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 20:32:05 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from Fedor.Gubarev@itep.ru) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.itep.ru: gubarev owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 20:32:05 +0400 (MSD) From: Fedor Gubarev X-Sender: gubarev@raven.itep.ru Reply-To: Fedor Gubarev To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Failed to build kernel... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I wonder if this is a bug or I'm missing something... Today the "installworld" worked fine for me until the kernel building: ------------------------------------ gcc -c -O -pipe -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DMSDOSFS -DNFS -DFFS -DINET -DMD5 -DCOMPAT_43 -DKERNEL ../../kern/vfs_bio.c ../../kern/vfs_bio.c: In function `getblk': ../../kern/vfs_bio.c:1177: `LK_EXCLUSIVE' undeclared (first use this function) ../../kern/vfs_bio.c:1177: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ../../kern/vfs_bio.c:1177: for each function it appears in.) *** Error code 1 Stop. ------------------------------------- At the moment it seems that there a list of other undeclared macroses in the kernel src: LK_EXCLUSIVE, LK_RETRY, LK_INTERLOCK ..... The source tree was cvsup'ed today from cvsup.freebsd.org. Any suggestions ? F.Gubarev. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 29 10:28:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA15139 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 10:28:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (skynet.ctr.columbia.edu [128.59.64.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA15115; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 10:28:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu) Received: (from wpaul@localhost) by skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA00918; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 13:30:14 -0400 From: Bill Paul Message-Id: <199808291730.NAA00918@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Subject: Looking for feedback on xl (3c905/3c905B) driver To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 13:30:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Okay people, it's been some time since I put the xl0 driver in -current and -stable. I need to know if people are having problems with the driver or not. So far I've gotten startlingly little feedback. This either means that it's working so well that nobody has had any trouble with it, or you guys are all just slackers and are too lazy to speak up. Basically I'm looking for as many success or failure reports as possible. If you're having trouble with the driver and you don't tell me about it, I can't help you, so speak up. If you're not having trouble and it's working well, I'd like to know that too. Here are some things I'd like to know: - What kind of adapter you have. Note that a 3c905-TX is NOT THE SAME as a 3c905B-TX. (See the 'B'? It makes a difference.) Double and triple check the model. Don't tell me you have a 3c905B when you actually only have a 3c905. If you want to be really nice, do 'dmesg | grep xl' and show me the output. - The driver version you're using. If you obtained the driver by cvsup'ing -current or -stable, then you have the latest one. If you downloaded the driver from www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/3Com within the last week, then you also have the latest one. If you're not sure, show me the rcsid strings from if_xl.c and if_xlreg.h. - Does the driver detect all of the adapter's media types correctly? - Is the system stable? Have you had problems with kernel panics since you started using the driver? Is mbuf usage normal or does it look like there's an mbuf leak? (use netstat -m to monitor mbuf usage) - Type of system (CPU type/speed). Are you using a slower system like a 486 or older Pentium (P75, P90, P1xx, etc...)? If so, are there problems with performance? Are you using SCSI disks or IDE disks? - Type of network to which the adapter is attached. Are you using a hub? A switch? Crossover cable to another machine? Coax? AUI? If a hub, are there lots of hosts on the same segment? - How many adapters in the system. - How heavily loaded is the system. Is this just a personal machine with occasional network traffic or is it a heavily used server? (http, FTP, NFS, login shell box, etc...) Is it a router? - Observed performance. Does the adapter/driver work well under load? Does the adapter lock up or otherwise misbehave under high-load conditions? Are there lots of input or output errors? (use netstat -in to check) Do you ever have to ifconfig down and ifconfig up the adapter to reset it? - 'Out of buffers' problems. Does the 'OACTIVE' flag ever show up when you do 'ifconfig xl0'? - Unusual error messages. Are there any diagnostics generated by the driver that don't look normal? (timeouts, transmission errors, etc...) - Multicast operation. Is the adapter receiving all the multicast frames that it should? (Note that the 3c905B adapters have a hash filter whereas the 3c900 and 3c905 adapters have only a 'receive all multicast frames' mode, so reports about the 3c905B are more useful.) - Unusual configurations. Are you using firewalling? Network address translation? Proxy ARP? IP aliases? Shitloads of IP aliases? Do you have Lose95/98/NT installed on your machine along with FreeBSD? Do you have problems warm booting from Lose95/98/NT to FreeBSD? (Adapter not probed, adapter not reset correctly after warm boot...) - Benchmarks. Have you compared the xl driver's performance against any others? What were the numbers? What benchmarks did you use? Was performace good? Bad? Ugly? Here are some things I don't want to hear: - "I saw some error but I forgot it, and I didn't write it down. Does this help?" - "I saw somewhere you were interested in information about 3c905 performance with FreeBSD. What exactly do you need to know?" - "I can give you the information you want, but I wanted to send you a short note first just to see if you were really interested." - "You can use Internet Explorer to find out more information about 3Com products by going to www.3Com.com..." - "Well, I'm having some trouble, but I don't have time to give you the details as I'm just about to leave for the airport and fly to some remote part of deepest, darkest Africa to start a tour with the Red Cross, and I won't be able to use my computer again for about three years. But I can try to give you more information when I get back. Is that okay?" - "It works just fine with Windows!" - "It works just fine with Linux!" - "I can't help you with this 3Com thing, but do you have a driver for the Gronkulator 2000 board? I've got, like, 20 of them and they only cost, like, $5 each." - "D00d, got any war3z?" - "Are you being investigated?" - "How do I get FreeBSD? I have Windows 98 and the Internet; will it work with that?" So speak up everyone. Send your cards and letters to wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu. Operators are standing by. -Bill -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (212) 854-6020 | System Manager, Master of Unix-Fu Work: wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu | Center for Telecommunications Research Home: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu | Columbia University, New York City ============================================================================= "It is not I who am crazy; it is I who am mad!" - Ren Hoek, "Space Madness" ============================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 29 11:19:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA20378 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 11:19:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from idiom.com (idiom.com [209.157.64.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA20357 for ; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 11:19:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billy@idiom.com) Received: from localhost (billy@localhost) by idiom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA21868; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 11:18:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 11:18:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Billy Thompson To: Fedor Gubarev cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Failed to build kernel... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Either I missed the same thing you did, or there is a bug because I got the exact same error. On Sat, 29 Aug 1998, Fedor Gubarev wrote: > Hi, > I wonder if this is a bug or I'm missing something... > Today the "installworld" worked fine for me until > the kernel building: cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DCOMPAT_43 -DMSDOSFS -DMFS -DNFS -DFFS -DINET -DMD5 -DKERNEL ../../kern/vfs_bio.c ../../kern/vfs_bio.c: In function `getblk': ../../kern/vfs_bio.c:1177: `LK_EXCLUSIVE' undeclared (first use this function) ../../kern/vfs_bio.c:1177: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ../../kern/vfs_bio.c:1177: for each function it appears in.) *** Error code 1 > gcc -c -O -pipe -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit > -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith > -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DMSDOSFS -DNFS -DFFS -DINET > -DMD5 -DCOMPAT_43 -DKERNEL ../../kern/vfs_bio.c > ../../kern/vfs_bio.c: In function `getblk': > ../../kern/vfs_bio.c:1177: `LK_EXCLUSIVE' undeclared (first use this > function) > ../../kern/vfs_bio.c:1177: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only > once > ../../kern/vfs_bio.c:1177: for each function it appears in.) > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > ------------------------------------- > > At the moment it seems that there a list of other undeclared > macroses in the kernel src: LK_EXCLUSIVE, LK_RETRY, LK_INTERLOCK ..... > > The source tree was cvsup'ed today from cvsup.freebsd.org. > > Any suggestions ? > > F.Gubarev. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 29 11:34:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA22203 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 11:34:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.dcfinc.com (freebie.dcfinc.com [138.113.5.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22185; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 11:34:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freebie.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freebie.dcfinc.com (8.8.7/8.8.3a) id LAA15318; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 11:33:26 -0700 (MST) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199808291833.LAA15318@freebie.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on xl (3c905/3c905B) driver To: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (Bill Paul) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 11:33:25 -0700 (MST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199808291730.NAA00918@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> from Bill Paul at "Aug 29, 98 01:30:12 pm" Reply-to: chad@dcfinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Okay people, it's been some time since I put the xl0 driver in > -current and -stable. I need to know if people are having problems > with the driver or not. So far I've gotten startlingly little > feedback. This either means that it's working so well that nobody has > had any trouble with it, or you guys are all just slackers and are too > lazy to speak up. You left out a third. We don't know better. Here's an edited version of my dmesg.boot file: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE #0: Wed Jul 29 18:26:19 MST 1998 chad@chad.anasazi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/CHAD CPU: Pentium/P55C (166.06-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x543 Stepping=3 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) chip0 rev 3 on pci0:0:0 chip1 rev 1 on pci0:7:0 chip2 rev 0 on pci0:7:1 pci0:7:2: Intel Corporation, device=0x7020, class=serial, subclass=0x03 int d irq 9 [no driver assigned] vx0 <3COM 3C905 Fast Etherlink XL PCI> rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:16:0 mii[*mii*]: disable 'auto select' with DOS util! address 00:60:97:de:2b:a8 Intel Pentium F00F detected, installing workaround -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= As you can see, I'm running the vx0 driver. It's the one selected by the installation process. I kept it as I built my custom kernel. Should I have selected the xl driver then? If so, how would I have known that? -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org chad@anasazi.com larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 29 11:40:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23439 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 11:40:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com (netcom11.netcom.com [192.100.81.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23310 for ; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 11:39:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvh@netcom.com) Received: (from mvh@localhost) by netcom1.netcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11273; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 11:38:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvh) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 11:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199808291838.LAA11273@netcom1.netcom.com> From: "Michael V. Harding" To: billy@idiom.com CC: Fedor.Gubarev@itep.ru, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from Billy Thompson on Sat, 29 Aug 1998 11:18:47 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: Failed to build kernel... References: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This has apparently just been fixed. Edit src/sys/kern/vfs_bio.c Add delta 1.104.2.11 98.08.29.17.39.39 luoqi Add delta 1.104.2.12 98.08.29.17.50.13 luoqi The first patch breaks, the second fixes it. Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 11:18:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Billy Thompson cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG X-UIDL: 6a099c726dbe53e07ecf1ee0c3c69426 Either I missed the same thing you did, or there is a bug because I got the exact same error. On Sat, 29 Aug 1998, Fedor Gubarev wrote: > Hi, > I wonder if this is a bug or I'm missing something... > Today the "installworld" worked fine for me until > the kernel building: cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DCOMPAT_43 -DMSDOSFS -DMFS -DNFS -DFFS -DINET -DMD5 -DKERNEL ../../kern/vfs_bio.c ../../kern/vfs_bio.c: In function `getblk': ../../kern/vfs_bio.c:1177: `LK_EXCLUSIVE' undeclared (first use this function) ../../kern/vfs_bio.c:1177: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ../../kern/vfs_bio.c:1177: for each function it appears in.) *** Error code 1 > gcc -c -O -pipe -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit > -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith > -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DMSDOSFS -DNFS -DFFS -DINET > -DMD5 -DCOMPAT_43 -DKERNEL ../../kern/vfs_bio.c > ../../kern/vfs_bio.c: In function `getblk': > ../../kern/vfs_bio.c:1177: `LK_EXCLUSIVE' undeclared (first use this > function) > ../../kern/vfs_bio.c:1177: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only > once > ../../kern/vfs_bio.c:1177: for each function it appears in.) > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > ------------------------------------- > > At the moment it seems that there a list of other undeclared > macroses in the kernel src: LK_EXCLUSIVE, LK_RETRY, LK_INTERLOCK ..... > > The source tree was cvsup'ed today from cvsup.freebsd.org. > > Any suggestions ? > > F.Gubarev. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 29 12:02:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25364 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 12:02:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25346; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 12:02:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (IDENT:AF/Jab04RYywjuZ8m4DvaE1OGPuL6h4f@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA06715; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 21:01:11 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199808291901.VAA06715@gratis.grondar.za> To: Bill Paul cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on xl (3c905/3c905B) driver Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 21:01:10 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bill Paul wrote: > Basically I'm looking for as many success or failure reports as possible. > If you're having trouble with the driver and you don't tell me about it, > I can't help you, so speak up. If you're not having trouble and it's > working well, I'd like to know that too. It is working on my home (CURRENT) and colleagues (STABLE) boxes extremely well. The vx0 driver would frequently go into a (suspected) lose-all-interrupts mode, and run like molasses. The xl0 driver s smooth, fast and trouble-free so far. > Here are some things I'd like to know: > > - What kind of adapter you have. Note that a 3c905-TX is NOT THE SAME > as a 3c905B-TX. (See the 'B'? It makes a difference.) Double and triple > check the model. Don't tell me you have a 3c905B when you actually only > have a 3c905. If you want to be really nice, do 'dmesg | grep xl' and > show me the output. 3c900 XL's. > - The driver version you're using. If you obtained the driver by > cvsup'ing -current or -stable, then you have the latest one. If you > downloaded the driver from www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/3Com within the > last week, then you also have the latest one. If you're not sure, > show me the rcsid strings from if_xl.c and if_xlreg.h. Regular CVSUP, so recent. > - Does the driver detect all of the adapter's media types correctly? Yes. > - Is the system stable? Have you had problems with kernel panics since > you started using the driver? Is mbuf usage normal or does it look > like there's an mbuf leak? (use netstat -m to monitor mbuf usage) Rock steady. > - Type of system (CPU type/speed). Are you using a slower system like > a 486 or older Pentium (P75, P90, P1xx, etc...)? If so, are there > problems with performance? Are you using SCSI disks or IDE disks? P5/200(SMP untested) and P5166. > - Type of network to which the adapter is attached. Are you using a > hub? A switch? Crossover cable to another machine? Coax? AUI? If a hub, > are there lots of hosts on the same segment? Home - coax. Work - utp. > - How many adapters in the system. 1 all round. > - How heavily loaded is the system. Is this just a personal machine > with occasional network traffic or is it a heavily used server? > (http, FTP, NFS, login shell box, etc...) Is it a router? Home - deveopment net - I beat the crap out of it in short bursts (CVS over NFS etc. Work - production environment - very heavy workstaion use. > - Observed performance. Does the adapter/driver work well under load? > Does the adapter lock up or otherwise misbehave under high-load > conditions? Are there lots of input or output errors? (use netstat -in > to check) Do you ever have to ifconfig down and ifconfig up the adapter > to reset it? Better perfomance than old driver, and none of the old hassles. > - 'Out of buffers' problems. Does the 'OACTIVE' flag ever show up when > you do 'ifconfig xl0'? No. > - Unusual error messages. Are there any diagnostics generated by the > driver that don't look normal? (timeouts, transmission errors, etc...) None. > - Multicast operation. Is the adapter receiving all the multicast > frames that it should? (Note that the 3c905B adapters have a hash > filter whereas the 3c900 and 3c905 adapters have only a 'receive all > multicast frames' mode, so reports about the 3c905B are more useful.) Not tested. > - Unusual configurations. Are you using firewalling? Network address > translation? Proxy ARP? IP aliases? Shitloads of IP aliases? Do you > have Lose95/98/NT installed on your machine along with FreeBSD? > Do you have problems warm booting from Lose95/98/NT to FreeBSD? > (Adapter not probed, adapter not reset correctly after warm boot...) No. > - Benchmarks. Have you compared the xl driver's performance against > any others? What were the numbers? What benchmarks did you use? > Was performace good? Bad? Ugly? Better perfomance based on "feel", rather than hard stats. > Here are some things I don't want to hear: ROTFLMAO. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 29 12:21:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27417 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 12:21:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (skynet.ctr.columbia.edu [128.59.64.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA27403; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 12:21:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu) Received: (from wpaul@localhost) by skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA01095; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 15:23:49 -0400 From: Bill Paul Message-Id: <199808291923.PAA01095@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on xl (3c905/3c905B) driver To: chad@dcfinc.com Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 15:23:48 -0400 (EDT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199808291833.LAA15318@freebie.dcfinc.com> from "Chad R. Larson" at Aug 29, 98 11:33:25 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Chad R. Larson had to walk into mine and say: > > Okay people, it's been some time since I put the xl0 driver in > > -current and -stable. I need to know if people are having problems > > with the driver or not. So far I've gotten startlingly little > > feedback. This either means that it's working so well that nobody has > > had any trouble with it, or you guys are all just slackers and are too > > lazy to speak up. > > You left out a third. We don't know better. Well, there is that... > Here's an edited version of my dmesg.boot file: > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE #0: Wed Jul 29 18:26:19 MST 1998 I only wrote the driver in August. :) It's been in -stable about a week, and up on www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/3Com for a couple of weeks. > chad@chad.anasazi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/CHAD > CPU: Pentium/P55C (166.06-MHz 586-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x543 Stepping=3 > Features=0x8001bf > real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) > chip0 rev 3 on pci0:0:0 > chip1 rev 1 on pci0:7:0 > chip2 rev 0 on pci0:7:1 > pci0:7:2: Intel Corporation, device=0x7020, class=serial, subclass=0x03 int d irq 9 [no driver assigned] > vx0 <3COM 3C905 Fast Etherlink XL PCI> rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:16:0 > mii[*mii*]: disable 'auto select' with DOS util! address 00:60:97:de:2b:a8 > Intel Pentium F00F detected, installing workaround > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > As you can see, I'm running the vx0 driver. It's the one selected by > the installation process. I kept it as I built my custom kernel. > Should I have selected the xl driver then? If so, how would I have > known that? Mea culpa. I made noises about this on -hackers and -current (and on -commiters) and thought people would notice the new driver when they cvsup'ed the latest sources, starting this week. If you don't want to go through the hassle of cvsup'ing everything and building from scratch, you can download the 2.2.x driver from www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/3Com and add it to your existing kernel. There are instructions that explain what do to. You'll probably want to replace 'device vx0' in your kernel config with 'device xl0'. And you'll need to edit your /etc/rc.conf to change all occurances of vx0 to xl0. Note that this driver is only for the 3c90x cards, not the 3c59x cards, which are still supported by the vx driver. -Bill -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (212) 854-6020 | System Manager, Master of Unix-Fu Work: wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu | Center for Telecommunications Research Home: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu | Columbia University, New York City ============================================================================= "It is not I who am crazy; it is I who am mad!" - Ren Hoek, "Space Madness" ============================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 29 12:28:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28147 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 12:28:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp4.nwnexus.com (smtp4.nwnexus.com [206.63.63.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28127 for ; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 12:27:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wrsomsky@halcyon.com) Received: from gramarye (evt-lx100-ip15.nwnexus.net [204.57.235.15]) by smtp4.nwnexus.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA30488; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 12:26:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wrsomsky@localhost) by gramarye (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02485; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 12:10:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wrsomsky) From: "William R. Somsky" Message-Id: <199808291910.MAA02485.gramarye.wrsomsky@halcyon.com> Subject: Re: Failed to build kernel... In-Reply-To: from Fedor Gubarev at "Aug 29, 1998 8:32: 5 pm" To: Fedor.Gubarev@itep.ru Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 12:10:46 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 20:32:05 +0400 (MSD) > From: Fedor Gubarev > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Failed to build kernel... > I wonder if this is a bug or I'm missing something... > Today the "installworld" worked fine for me until > the kernel building: > > ------------------------------------ > gcc -c -O -pipe -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit > -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith > -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DMSDOSFS -DNFS -DFFS -DINET > -DMD5 -DCOMPAT_43 -DKERNEL ../../kern/vfs_bio.c > ../../kern/vfs_bio.c: In function `getblk': > ../../kern/vfs_bio.c:1177: `LK_EXCLUSIVE' undeclared (first use this > function) > ../../kern/vfs_bio.c:1177: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only > once > ../../kern/vfs_bio.c:1177: for each function it appears in.) > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > ------------------------------------- Same problem here... > At the moment it seems that there a list of other undeclared > macroses in the kernel src: LK_EXCLUSIVE, LK_RETRY, LK_INTERLOCK ..... > The source tree was cvsup'ed today from cvsup.freebsd.org. Ditto... > Any suggestions ? I'm currently trying a "find /usr/src -name "*vfs*" -print | xargs rm" and a re-cvsup, to see if there's anything strange on my system -- mostly as just a random something that I can do, rather than with any particular expectation of it helping -- and... now it works! I don't _think_ I tweaked anything else between it failing and working. Unfortunately, I don't have a record of what the before-and-after differences of my /usr/src tree. Wait... in vfs_bio.c:1177, the line has been changed to remove the reference to LK_EXCLUSIVE... So, what happened? Did my "find | xargs rm" help, or did that file just happend to get changed on the repository right inbetween my trials? I dunno... Incidentally, on the subject of cvsup, I understand that it won't delete files that it doesn't have a record that it created, but isn't-there/shouldn't-there-be some way to get it to at least _list_ what files are present on the local system don't exist on the master server? I've had crufties left over a time or two from when something got out of sync, and since I'm coming in over a dialup line for my IP, I really don't want to delete the whole tree and re-cvsup it in it's entirety. Cvsup of /usr/src and /usr/ports works fine for me over the phone for updates, say once to a few times a week -- takes a five minutes or so -- but a full checkout of the entire tree takes hours -- I've only done that once or twice, when things seemed to have gotten way out of sync. Even just a (checksummed?) list of the /usr/src, /usr/ports tree, possibly just stored as an extra file in those trees would be all I need to detect crufties... ________________________________________________________________________ William R. Somsky wrsomsky@halcyon.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 29 14:20:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA07512 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 14:20:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bright.fx.genx.net (bright.fx.genx.net [206.64.4.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07496; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 14:20:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by bright.fx.genx.net (8.9.1/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA08688; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 17:20:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) X-Authentication-Warning: bright.fx.genx.net: bright owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 17:20:09 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Sender: bright@bright.fx.genx.net To: Bill Paul cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on xl (3c905/3c905B) driver In-Reply-To: <199808291730.NAA00918@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG works BEAUTIFULLY from a user standpoint, only odd thing is that when i enable a bpfilter program, trafshow/tcpdump it sorta locks up all my processes for a second. it's odd in X as i can movei my mouse, but things like x11amp (linux emulation) lock up for a good 2-3 seconds, then all is well until the program "detaches" from the bpf: releveant info (i hope): dmesg: xl0: <3Com 3c905B Fast Etherlink XL 10/100BaseTX> rev 0x24 int a irq 3 on pci0.1 5.0 ifconfig: xl0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 206.64.4.154 netmask 0xffffffc0 broadcast 206.64.4.191 ether 00:10:4b:98:fa:3b media: autoselect (100baseTX ) supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP i have IPFIREWALL, IPVERBOSE compiled into my kernel as well as other odd things: POSIX options, DEVFS and SLICE after an uptime of 23 hours (i downed the machine myself) a netstat -m shows: 48/160 mbufs in use: 34 mbufs allocated to data 14 mbufs allocated to packet headers 25/50/1312 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) 120 Kbytes allocated to network (46% in use) 0 requests for memory denied 0 requests for memory delayed 0 calls to protocol drain routines note that the machine is not heavily loaded, but it survived a gmake -j in the wine directory recently (was unresponcive for a good 5-10 minutes, but then came back) although that is not network related. network "stuff" being used: NFS, remote X, dns and your usual www/ftp/etc. not i can get over 9megs/second over NFS, it looks REALLY good. only concern is the odd behavior with bpfilter. sorry i don't have more exotic stuff to show such as multicast or whatnot. btw, if i set my mtu higher you think i'll get more performance? thank you again for the driver, Alfred Perlstein - Programmer, HotJobs Inc. - www.hotjobs.com -- There are operating systems, and then there's FreeBSD. -- http://www.freebsd.org/ 3.0-current On Sat, 29 Aug 1998, Bill Paul wrote: > Okay people, it's been some time since I put the xl0 driver in -current > and -stable. I need to know if people are having problems with the driver > or not. So far I've gotten startlingly little feedback. This either means > that it's working so well that nobody has had any trouble with it, or > you guys are all just slackers and are too lazy to speak up. > > Basically I'm looking for as many success or failure reports as possible. > If you're having trouble with the driver and you don't tell me about it, > I can't help you, so speak up. If you're not having trouble and it's > working well, I'd like to know that too. > > Here are some things I'd like to know: > > - What kind of adapter you have. Note that a 3c905-TX is NOT THE SAME > as a 3c905B-TX. (See the 'B'? It makes a difference.) Double and triple > check the model. Don't tell me you have a 3c905B when you actually only > have a 3c905. If you want to be really nice, do 'dmesg | grep xl' and > show me the output. > - The driver version you're using. If you obtained the driver by > cvsup'ing -current or -stable, then you have the latest one. If you > downloaded the driver from www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/3Com within the > last week, then you also have the latest one. If you're not sure, > show me the rcsid strings from if_xl.c and if_xlreg.h. > - Does the driver detect all of the adapter's media types correctly? > - Is the system stable? Have you had problems with kernel panics since > you started using the driver? Is mbuf usage normal or does it look > like there's an mbuf leak? (use netstat -m to monitor mbuf usage) > - Type of system (CPU type/speed). Are you using a slower system like > a 486 or older Pentium (P75, P90, P1xx, etc...)? If so, are there > problems with performance? Are you using SCSI disks or IDE disks? > - Type of network to which the adapter is attached. Are you using a > hub? A switch? Crossover cable to another machine? Coax? AUI? If a hub, > are there lots of hosts on the same segment? > - How many adapters in the system. > - How heavily loaded is the system. Is this just a personal machine > with occasional network traffic or is it a heavily used server? > (http, FTP, NFS, login shell box, etc...) Is it a router? > - Observed performance. Does the adapter/driver work well under load? > Does the adapter lock up or otherwise misbehave under high-load > conditions? Are there lots of input or output errors? (use netstat -in > to check) Do you ever have to ifconfig down and ifconfig up the adapter > to reset it? > - 'Out of buffers' problems. Does the 'OACTIVE' flag ever show up when > you do 'ifconfig xl0'? > - Unusual error messages. Are there any diagnostics generated by the > driver that don't look normal? (timeouts, transmission errors, etc...) > - Multicast operation. Is the adapter receiving all the multicast > frames that it should? (Note that the 3c905B adapters have a hash > filter whereas the 3c900 and 3c905 adapters have only a 'receive all > multicast frames' mode, so reports about the 3c905B are more useful.) > - Unusual configurations. Are you using firewalling? Network address > translation? Proxy ARP? IP aliases? Shitloads of IP aliases? Do you > have Lose95/98/NT installed on your machine along with FreeBSD? > Do you have problems warm booting from Lose95/98/NT to FreeBSD? > (Adapter not probed, adapter not reset correctly after warm boot...) > - Benchmarks. Have you compared the xl driver's performance against > any others? What were the numbers? What benchmarks did you use? > Was performace good? Bad? Ugly? > > Here are some things I don't want to hear: > > - "I saw some error but I forgot it, and I didn't write it down. Does > this help?" > - "I saw somewhere you were interested in information about 3c905 > performance with FreeBSD. What exactly do you need to know?" > - "I can give you the information you want, but I wanted to send you a > short note first just to see if you were really interested." > - "You can use Internet Explorer to find out more information about > 3Com products by going to www.3Com.com..." > - "Well, I'm having some trouble, but I don't have time to give you > the details as I'm just about to leave for the airport and fly to > some remote part of deepest, darkest Africa to start a tour with the > Red Cross, and I won't be able to use my computer again for about > three years. But I can try to give you more information when I get > back. Is that okay?" > - "It works just fine with Windows!" > - "It works just fine with Linux!" > - "I can't help you with this 3Com thing, but do you have a driver for > the Gronkulator 2000 board? I've got, like, 20 of them and they only > cost, like, $5 each." > - "D00d, got any war3z?" > - "Are you being investigated?" > - "How do I get FreeBSD? I have Windows 98 and the Internet; will it > work with that?" > > So speak up everyone. Send your cards and letters to > wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu. Operators are standing by. > > -Bill > > -- > ============================================================================= > -Bill Paul (212) 854-6020 | System Manager, Master of Unix-Fu > Work: wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu | Center for Telecommunications Research > Home: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu | Columbia University, New York City > ============================================================================= > "It is not I who am crazy; it is I who am mad!" - Ren Hoek, "Space Madness" > ============================================================================= > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 29 14:52:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09442 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 14:52:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail3.mailsorter.net (mail3.mailsorter.net [209.132.1.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09436 for ; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 14:52:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jose@nohow.demon.co.uk) Received: from nohow.demon.co.uk ([212.228.18.189]) by mail3.mailsorter.net (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA766 for ; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 14:51:05 -0700 Received: from localhost (jose@localhost) by nohow.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA17104 for ; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 22:43:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jose@nohow.demon.co.uk) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 22:43:45 +0100 (BST) From: Jose Marques To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XFree86 3.3.2 permissions? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id OAA09437 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 26 Aug 1998, Dag-Erling Coidan Smørgrav wrote: > No. It was removed for a reason (it's a big security hole). Either > start X as root, or use xdm. The latter is so useful and so easy to > set up there's really no excuse for not using it. A long long time ago I tried Xdm but the "login.conf" stuff did not appear to work with it. Has this changed? If so, I'll give it a go. -- Jose Marques To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 29 14:53:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09714 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 14:53:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles153.castles.com [208.214.165.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09686; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 14:53:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08636; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 14:50:21 GMT (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199808291450.OAA08636@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Alfred Perlstein cc: Bill Paul , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on xl (3c905/3c905B) driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 29 Aug 1998 17:20:09 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 14:50:20 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > ifconfig: > xl0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet 206.64.4.154 netmask 0xffffffc0 broadcast 206.64.4.191 > ether 00:10:4b:98:fa:3b > media: autoselect (100baseTX ) > supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX > 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP > 10baseT/UTP ... > btw, if i set my mtu higher you think i'll get more performance? No; 1500 is the conventional limit. If you go larger, you stop being Ethernet. ObPedantAvoidance: yes, there are standards for larger frames. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 29 15:10:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11239 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 15:10:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles153.castles.com [208.214.165.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11234 for ; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 15:10:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08745; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 15:07:39 GMT (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199808291507.PAA08745@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "William R. Somsky" cc: Fedor.Gubarev@itep.ru, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Failed to build kernel... In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 29 Aug 1998 12:10:46 MST." <199808291910.MAA02485.gramarye.wrsomsky@halcyon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 15:07:38 +0000 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I'm currently trying a "find /usr/src -name "*vfs*" -print | xargs rm" > and a re-cvsup, to see if there's anything strange on my system -- > mostly as just a random something that I can do, rather than with > any particular expectation of it helping -- and... now it works! > > I don't _think_ I tweaked anything else between it failing and working. > Unfortunately, I don't have a record of what the before-and-after > differences of my /usr/src tree. Wait... in vfs_bio.c:1177, the > line has been changed to remove the reference to LK_EXCLUSIVE... If you are going to follow the tree this closely, you should be reviewing messages sent to the cvs-all mailing list. You can filter out any that don't contain the string "RELENG_2_2", in order to keep track of just -stable. This would mean that you would know exactly what had happened, rather than asking several thousand people. > So, what happened? Did my "find | xargs rm" help, or did that file > just happend to get changed on the repository right inbetween my > trials? I dunno... If you are bringing down the whole CVS repository, you can check $CVSROOT/commitlogs/sys to see what has been going on. You can also review the CVS history of various files at www.freebsd.org. We don't appear to have an HTML-ified version of the commitlogs online at this stage; this would be an ideal contribution from someone with a bit of text-to-HTML conversion skill. > Incidentally, on the subject of cvsup, I understand that it won't > delete files that it doesn't have a record that it created, but > isn't-there/shouldn't-there-be some way to get it to at least _list_ > what files are present on the local system don't exist on the master > server? I've had crufties left over a time or two from when something > got out of sync, and since I'm coming in over a dialup line for my IP, > I really don't want to delete the whole tree and re-cvsup it in it's > entirety. Cvsup of /usr/src and /usr/ports works fine for me over > the phone for updates, say once to a few times a week -- takes a five > minutes or so -- but a full checkout of the entire tree takes hours -- > I've only done that once or twice, when things seemed to have gotten > way out of sync. The presence of extra files in the tree isn't normally actually a problem. > Even just a (checksummed?) list of the /usr/src, /usr/ports tree, > possibly just stored as an extra file in those trees would be all > I need to detect crufties... If you want to produce such a tool, you have to look no further than /sup//checkouts.cvs I'd be certain that you'd have quite an audience for it, should you be interested in distribution. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 29 18:39:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA24164 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 18:39:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (skynet.ctr.columbia.edu [128.59.64.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA24144; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 18:39:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu) Received: (from wpaul@localhost) by skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id VAA01492; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 21:41:33 -0400 From: Bill Paul Message-Id: <199808300141.VAA01492@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Subject: Re: Looking for feedback on xl (3c905/3c905B) driver To: bright@hotjobs.com (Alfred Perlstein) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 21:41:32 -0400 (EDT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Alfred Perlstein" at Aug 29, 98 05:20:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Alfred Perlstein had to walk into mine and say: > works BEAUTIFULLY from a user standpoint, only odd thing is that when i > enable a bpfilter program, trafshow/tcpdump it sorta locks up all my > processes for a second. it's odd in X as i can movei my mouse, but things > like x11amp (linux emulation) lock up for a good 2-3 seconds, then all is > well until the program "detaches" from the bpf: This happens because changing the interface flags (via xl_ioctl(), when setting the IFF_PROMISC flag) causes xl_init() to be invoked, and xl_init() forcibly puts the interface into an initialized state, flushes out the receive and transmit queues and resets the receiver and transmitter. The receive and transmit reset appears to take some time, during which NIC operations are temporarily suspended. This is probably a bit much considering that the only thing that really needs to be done is to set the RX filter bits to allow reception of all frames. I think I inherited this behavior from the fxp driver, which is what I used as a reference when I got started with driver writing. I'll look into changing this. Note that using BPF without setting the IFF_PROMISC flag shouldn't cause any delay. -Bill -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (212) 854-6020 | System Manager, Master of Unix-Fu Work: wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu | Center for Telecommunications Research Home: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu | Columbia University, New York City ============================================================================= "It is not I who am crazy; it is I who am mad!" - Ren Hoek, "Space Madness" ============================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Aug 29 18:59:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA26368 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 18:59:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cscfx.sytex.com (cscfx.sytex.com [205.147.190.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA26363 for ; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 18:59:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rwc@cscfx.sytex.com) Received: (from rwc@localhost) by cscfx.sytex.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id VAA06042 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 29 Aug 1998 21:58:28 -0400 From: Richard Cramer Message-Id: <199808300158.VAA06042@cscfx.sytex.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 21:58:28 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: rcramer@sytex.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable rcramer@sytex.net -- Richard Cramer rcramer@sytex.net Phone: 703-425-2515 President Fax: 703-425-4585 SytexNet(tm) Sytex Access Ltd. 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