From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 1 08:44:08 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA27801 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 08:44:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA27793 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 08:44:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kaiserppo@erols.com) Received: from erols.com (207-172-46-236.s236.tnt9.ann.erols.com [207.172.46.236]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10167 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:46:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <368CFC95.809D413A@erols.com> Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 11:49:26 -0500 From: Ben Howard Reply-To: kaiserppo@bigfoot.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: PnP Network cards Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have an NE2000 compatable card. However it is plug and play. In fact, it is the only plug-and-play card that is found by FreeBSD 2.2.6. It they anyway, rough and crude will do, that the PnP0 controller will assign the card it finds to the ed0 controller? -- "Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try." -Yoda "I'd rather kiss a wookiee" - Leia "I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said" - William Buckley, Jr. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 1 09:28:38 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01445 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 09:28:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01440 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 09:28:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id SAA17526; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 18:28:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from w@localhost) by campa.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA23537; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 17:41:33 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from w) Message-ID: <19990101174132.A23530@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 17:41:32 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Timothy J Luoma , Wolfram Schneider Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Several documentation questioons (all short) References: <19981228184247.E8797@panke.de.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Timothy J Luoma on Mon, Dec 28, 1998 at 02:44:52PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1998-12-28 14:44:52 -0500, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > On Mon, 28 Dec 1998, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > > On 1998-12-25 01:45:47 -0500, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > > 1) Is there a reason why there can't be gzipped versions of the handbook > > > offered in addition to the non-gzipped ones? > > > > No - except lack of time of the FreeBSD developers. > > It that something that a brainless newbie (ie me) could help with? No. > Unfortunately the PS version doesn't look right for me under NeXTStep (the > pages all go off the far right margin) and I wanted a printable/formatted > version, so I needed the PDF one (which looked fine except for a few > places). The PDF version was generated from the PS version, so there are both more ore less equal. > Another possilby dumb q: I have the 2.2.7 CDs, is there a way for me to > generate the PDF handbook off those? (I don't have a working FreeBSD > system yet, but I can mount the CDs under NeXTstep and if I can make the > handbook.PDF file off whatever documentation is there, I would use that. Use the Adobe distiller $ distill handbook.ps -- Wolfram Schneider http://freebsd.org/~w/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 1 09:28:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01725 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 09:28:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01460; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 09:28:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id SAA17527; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 18:28:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from w@localhost) by campa.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA23561; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 17:52:21 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from w) Message-ID: <19990101175220.B23530@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 17:52:20 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Bill Fumerola , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/9255 References: <199812311621.IAA20519@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.1i In-Reply-To: <199812311621.IAA20519@freefall.freebsd.org>; from Bill Fumerola on Thu, Dec 31, 1998 at 08:21:58AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1998-12-31 08:21:58 -0800, Bill Fumerola wrote: > Synopsis: [PATCH] Typo in find(1) man page > > State-Changed-From-To: open-closed > State-Changed-By: billf > State-Changed-When: Thu Dec 31 08:18:50 PST 1998 > State-Changed-Why: > Committed to rev1.18 Please use a full path in the log message so we can add a link to the cgi script http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi For example: Committed in rev 1.18 of src/usr.bin/find/find.1 -- Wolfram Schneider http://freebsd.org/~w/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 1 09:52:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04412 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 09:52:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04376; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 09:52:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost (billf@localhost) by jade.chc-chimes.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA15106; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 12:52:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 12:52:39 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Fumerola To: Wolfram Schneider cc: Bill Fumerola , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/9255 In-Reply-To: <19990101175220.B23530@panke.de.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 1 Jan 1999, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > On 1998-12-31 08:21:58 -0800, Bill Fumerola wrote: > > Synopsis: [PATCH] Typo in find(1) man page > > > > State-Changed-From-To: open-closed > > State-Changed-By: billf > > State-Changed-When: Thu Dec 31 08:18:50 PST 1998 > > State-Changed-Why: > > Committed to rev1.18 > > Please use a full path in the log message so we can add a link > to the cgi script http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi > > For example: > > Committed in rev 1.18 of src/usr.bin/find/find.1 Noted. I just committed something that didn't follow this behavior either, but I will use it in the future. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 1 10:00:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05452 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 10:00:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from luomat.peak.org (port-1-ts1-gnv.da.fdt.net [209.212.132.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05380 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 10:00:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tjl@luomat.peak.org) Received: by luomat.peak.org (8.9.0/8.9.0) id MAA03729; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 12:59:27 -0500 (GMT-0500) Message-Id: <199901011759.MAA03729@ocalhost> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Image-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/luomat@peak.org.tiff In-Reply-To: <19990101174132.A23530@panke.de.freebsd.org> From: Timothy J Luoma Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 12:59:23 -0500 To: Wolfram Schneider Subject: Re: Several documentation questioons (all short) cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19981228184247.E8797@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990101174132.A23530@panke.de.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Author: Wolfram Schneider Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 17:41:32 +0100 ID: <19990101174132.A23530@panke.de.freebsd.org> > > Unfortunately the PS version doesn't look right for me under NeXTStep > > (the pages all go off the far right margin) and I wanted a > > printable/formatted version, so I needed the PDF one (which looked fine > > except for a few places). > > The PDF version was generated from the PS version, so there > are both more ore less equal. Well I don't claim to understand it, but the PS never looked right for me and the PDF did. > Use the Adobe distiller > > $ distill handbook.ps Will do, thanks TjL To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 1 11:03:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11240 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:03:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA11197 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:03:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA12507; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 18:59:18 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 18:59:17 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: Timothy J Luoma , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Several documentation questioons (all short) Message-ID: <19990101185917.A11635@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199812250645.BAA11174@ocalhost> <19981228184247.E8797@panke.de.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <19981228184247.E8797@panke.de.freebsd.org>; from Wolfram Schneider on Mon, Dec 28, 1998 at 06:42:47PM +0100 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 28, 1998 at 06:42:47PM +0100, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > On 1998-12-25 01:45:47 -0500, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > 1) Is there a reason why there can't be gzipped versions of the handbook > > offered in addition to the non-gzipped ones? > > No - except lack of time of the FreeBSD developers. Just to make clear that this will not be the case with the new Handbook. PS, PDF, RTF, and Word .DOC versions can be generated from the Handbook with relative ease (once I get the JadeTeX patches back and tested). I don't see any reason (except, possibly, diskspace) why the Handbook won't be available as handbook.{txt|pdf|ps|doc|rtf}.{gz|zip|bzip2} > > 2) Why is the PDF version on the FTP site but not linked to the webpage, and > > the PS version isn't on the FTP site (at least, not where the PDF version > > is). > > The PDF version is for windows users which does not have postscript > readers and gzip archiver. It should not be gzip'ed. Since there are PS, PDF, DOC, and RTF viewers for both Unix and Windows (Ghostview, Acroread, mswordview, StarOffice, WordPerfect 8) it should be available as both .gz and .zip (and .bzip2 if diskspace allows). > The html, asci and ps versions are updated daily at the > Web server www.freebsd.org > > The pdf version at the FTP server will be randomly > updated by hand every quarter or so ... Again, this will change, so that the more esoteric formats can be built as frequently as the PS and Text versions. N -- subterra superque womblia liber To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 1 13:10:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA24222 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 13:10:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA24214 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 13:10:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id NAA08990; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 13:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA23584; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 13:05:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <199901012105.NAA23584@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 13:05:13 -0800 (PST) From: nagao@iij.ad.jp To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/9264: Incorrectness in tsort(1) manpage. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 9264 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Incorrectness in tsort(1) manpage. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Jan 1 13:10:01 PST 1999 >Last-Modified: >Originator: NAGAO Tadaaki >Organization: Internet Initiative Japan Inc. >Release: FreeBSD-2.2.8-STABLE >Environment: FreeBSD bono 2.2.8-STABLE FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE #0: Sat Dec 26 17:55:09 JST 1998 root@bono:/usr/src/sys/compile/BONO i386 >Description: The sentence in tsort(1) manpage: > Node names in the input are separated by white space and there must be an > even number of node pairs. is incorrect or at least misleading because what must be of an even number are not node pairs but nodes. >How-To-Repeat: man tsort :-) >Fix: Replace `node pairs' with `nodes'. ;-) >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 1 14:38:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA02886 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 14:38:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from chekov.Belgium.eu.net (relay.eunet.be [192.92.130.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA02881 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 14:38:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from patrik.vanlooy@ping.be) Received: from (idialup206.antwerp.eunet.be [193.121.237.206]) by chekov.Belgium.eu.net with ESMTP id XAA19950 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 23:35:21 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <368D4E8F.DC78788C@ping.be> Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 23:39:12 +0100 From: patrik van looy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: getting freebsd cdrom X-Priority: 2 (High) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi i'm from belgium and i want to know where can i get freebsd cd rom patrik.vanlooy@ping.be To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 1 14:47:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03921 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 14:47:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gamma.aei.ca (gamma.aei.ca [206.123.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03914 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 14:47:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from malartre@aei.ca) Received: from aei.ca (ppp-109-190.mtl.aei.ca [207.107.109.190]) by gamma.aei.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02363; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 17:47:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <368D503C.D655D03F@aei.ca> Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 17:46:20 -0500 From: Malartre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nik Clayton CC: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Possible change to first page on site References: <19981230200220.A18756@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton wrote: > > is a possible change to the front page > of the site (yes, I know the image links are broken). > > All I've done is move the FreeBSD Mall icon to the top right, and brought > the mirror/language list down to the next line. > > Any comments? > > N > -- > C.R.F. Consulting -- we're run to make me richer. . . On my Netscape 4.06 full screen of 1024*768 of resolution, it look like the BSD Mall icon is lost and has nothing to do there. http://www.aei.ca/~malartre/graphic/freebsdmall01.jpg Salut -- [Malartre][malartre@aei.ca][http://www.lowrent.org/freebsd/malartre/] [Lowrent.org is down...] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jan 1 15:05:27 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA05102 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 15:05:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gamma.aei.ca (gamma.aei.ca [206.123.6.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05089 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 15:05:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from malartre@aei.ca) Received: from aei.ca (ppp-109-190.mtl.aei.ca [207.107.109.190]) by gamma.aei.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA03770; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 18:04:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <368D5457.B4FD24F5@aei.ca> Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 18:03:51 -0500 From: Malartre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" CC: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Possible change to first page on site References: <12300.915050871@zippy.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > is a possible change to the front page > > of the site (yes, I know the image links are broken). > > One criticism I've heard on the new site, even though people like it > better than the old, is that there's too much stuff there now for the > beginner to get lost in. I think it's a fair point to say that most > newbies will hand at the home page first whereas most veterans will be > using more directed URLs to various resources they already know to be > there. Given that, we should probably target the home page more at > the newbie than we do. This means larger, starburst style thingies > that have labels like: "How do I install it?" "Latest news!" and > "Getting help". In other words, if every hacker who first looks at it > throws up in sheer disgust, the new design will be a total success! :-) > > - Jordan One correction to that would be to create a new section in the left column entitled "Newbie" or "New user?" and to move the For Newbies link in the Documentation under that title. This is just to give an emphasis on WHERE TO START. Also, why not fusion Quick Newsletter with Announcement since both provide nearly the same info? One last thing, why not changing Getting FreeBSD to Installing FreeBSD? I'm not an English expert(hehe), but "Installing" or something with "Install" would be better than "Getting". Cya -- [Malartre][malartre@aei.ca][http://www.lowrent.org/freebsd/malartre/] [Lowrent.org is down...] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 2 04:12:43 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA12691 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 04:12:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA12686 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 04:12:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id NAA28817; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:09:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from w@localhost) by campa.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26281; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:57:57 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from w) Message-ID: <19990102125755.A26221@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:57:55 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider To: woju@bbs.ee.ntu.edu.tw, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Another FreeBSD Ports Search Engine References: <19981225091415.6590.qmail@bbs.ee.ntu.edu.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.1i In-Reply-To: <19981225091415.6590.qmail@bbs.ee.ntu.edu.tw>; from woju@bbs.ee.ntu.edu.tw on Fri, Dec 25, 1998 at 09:14:15AM -0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1998-12-25 09:14:15 -0000, woju@bbs.ee.ntu.edu.tw wrote: > FreeBSD Ports Search Engine -- (update daily via cvsup) > http://ports.wj.o3.net ( http://freebsd.ntu.edu.tw/bsd/ports_search.html ) > try -- "web index" or "search engine" as keyword A Search Engine for the FreeBSD Ports is a nice idea. But I doubt it was a good idea to put the ports Makefiles into the index. I get alot noise If I search for the words 'dict' or 'netscape'. -- Wolfram Schneider http://freebsd.org/~w/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 2 04:13:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA12724 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 04:13:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA12719 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 04:13:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id NAA28839; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:12:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from w@localhost) by campa.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26291; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:04:30 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from w) Message-ID: <19990102130428.B26221@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:04:28 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Malartre , "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Possible change to first page on site References: <12300.915050871@zippy.cdrom.com> <368D5457.B4FD24F5@aei.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.1i In-Reply-To: <368D5457.B4FD24F5@aei.ca>; from Malartre on Fri, Jan 01, 1999 at 06:03:51PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-01-01 18:03:51 -0500, Malartre wrote: > Also, why not fusion Quick Newsletter with Announcement since both > provide nearly the same info? I will delete the 'Quick Newsletter' link at the homepage. And may be the links 'Daemon News', 'Newsletter' and 'Manual Pages' too. The links 'Copyright' and 'Contact us' are redundant and should moved to the bottom of the homepage. Thats are together 6 links less ;-) > One last thing, why not changing Getting FreeBSD to Installing FreeBSD? > I'm not an English expert(hehe), but "Installing" or something with > "Install" would be better than "Getting". Good idea. -- Wolfram Schneider http://freebsd.org/~w/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 2 04:45:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA15177 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 04:45:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA15172 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 04:45:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id XAA11724; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 23:44:29 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <19990102234426.42040@welearn.com.au> Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 23:44:26 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: Malartre , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Possible change to first page on site References: <12300.915050871@zippy.cdrom.com> <368D5457.B4FD24F5@aei.ca> <19990102130428.B26221@panke.de.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <19990102130428.B26221@panke.de.freebsd.org>; from Wolfram Schneider on Sat, Jan 02, 1999 at 01:04:28PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jan 02, 1999 at 01:04:28PM +0100, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > On 1999-01-01 18:03:51 -0500, Malartre wrote: > > > One last thing, why not changing Getting FreeBSD to Installing FreeBSD? > > I'm not an English expert(hehe), but "Installing" or something with > > "Install" would be better than "Getting". > > Good idea. Getting FreeBSD sounds safer to me. First timers won't follow the link about installing. They think download-then-install so it seems obvious to them that they have to "get" it first, or at least check out where it is and how big the freebsd.zip file is :-) Remove "get" and expect more of them to write to -questions asking how to get it. Leave "Getting FreeBSD" there, and we can trick some of them into actually going to the installation instructions. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 2 05:06:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA16671 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 05:06:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bbs.ee.ntu.edu.tw (bbs.ee.ntu.edu.tw [140.112.18.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA16660 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 05:06:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from woju@bbs.ee.ntu.edu.tw) From: woju@bbs.ee.ntu.edu.tw Received: (qmail 13943 invoked by uid 9999); 2 Jan 1999 13:10:17 -0000 Date: 2 Jan 1999 13:10:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19990102131017.13942.qmail@bbs.ee.ntu.edu.tw> Reply-To: woju@bbs.ee.ntu.edu.tw To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Another FreeBSD Ports Search Engine X-Disclaimer: 臺大電機 Maxwell 站對本信內容恕不負責。 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org : > http://ports.wj.o3.net ( http://freebsd.ntu.edu.tw/bsd/ports_search.html ) : But I doubt it was a good idea to put the ports Makefiles : into the index. I get alot noise If I search for the Makefiles are put into the index for "Whom/maintainer/distname/..." info. : words 'dict' or 'netscape'. Thanks for the info. I have rebuilt the indexes -- http://ports.wj.o3.net FreeBSD Ports COMMENT+DESCR Search http://ports2.wj.o3.net FreeBSD Ports Makefile Search - woju To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 2 12:25:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25866 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:25:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25731; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:24:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@FreeBSD.org) From: Steve Price Received: (from steve@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) id MAA22571; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:24:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:24:26 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901022024.MAA22571@freefall.freebsd.org> To: steve@FreeBSD.ORG, gnats-admin@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pending/9276 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Some typos and fragmented coincidence of FAQ-format. Responsible-Changed-From-To: gnats-admin->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: steve Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Jan 2 12:24:03 PST 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Misfiled PR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 2 16:03:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17833 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:03:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17801 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:03:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id BAA05237; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 01:02:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from w@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from w@localhost) by campa.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA27084; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 18:57:26 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from w) Message-ID: <19990102185724.A27072@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 18:57:24 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Sue Blake , Wolfram Schneider Cc: Malartre , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Possible change to first page on site References: <12300.915050871@zippy.cdrom.com> <368D5457.B4FD24F5@aei.ca> <19990102130428.B26221@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990102234426.42040@welearn.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.1i In-Reply-To: <19990102234426.42040@welearn.com.au>; from Sue Blake on Sat, Jan 02, 1999 at 11:44:26PM +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-01-02 23:44:26 +1100, Sue Blake wrote: > On Sat, Jan 02, 1999 at 01:04:28PM +0100, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > On 1999-01-01 18:03:51 -0500, Malartre wrote: > > > > > One last thing, why not changing Getting FreeBSD to Installing FreeBSD? > > > I'm not an English expert(hehe), but "Installing" or something with > > > "Install" would be better than "Getting". > > > > Good idea. > > Getting FreeBSD sounds safer to me. > > First timers won't follow the link about installing. They think > download-then-install so it seems obvious to them that they have to > "get" it first, or at least check out where it is and how big the > freebsd.zip file is :-) Remove "get" and expect more of them to write > to -questions asking how to get it. Leave "Getting FreeBSD" there, and > we can trick some of them into actually going to the installation > instructions. Anything is good which reduce the mail flood. BTW, the link 'Getting FreeBSD' point to the handbook chapter '2. Installing FreeBSD' ;-) -- Wolfram Schneider http://freebsd.org/~w/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 2 16:03:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17886 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:03:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17857 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:03:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id BAA05249; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 01:03:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by campa.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA27202; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 19:30:14 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from wosch) Message-ID: <19990102193013.A27153@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 19:30:13 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Nik Clayton Cc: Timothy J Luoma , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Several documentation questioons (all short) References: <199812250645.BAA11174@ocalhost> <19981228184247.E8797@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990101185917.A11635@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.1i In-Reply-To: <19990101185917.A11635@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Fri, Jan 01, 1999 at 06:59:17PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-01-01 18:59:17 +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Mon, Dec 28, 1998 at 06:42:47PM +0100, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > On 1998-12-25 01:45:47 -0500, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > > 1) Is there a reason why there can't be gzipped versions of the handbook > > > offered in addition to the non-gzipped ones? > > > > No - except lack of time of the FreeBSD developers. > > Just to make clear that this will not be the case with the new Handbook. > PS, PDF, RTF, and Word .DOC versions can be generated from the Handbook > with relative ease (once I get the JadeTeX patches back and tested). Yes, but there are many other documents which are still in linuxdoc, e.g. FAQ, tutorials and many translations ;-/ > I don't see any reason (except, possibly, diskspace) why the Handbook > won't be available as handbook.{txt|pdf|ps|doc|rtf}.{gz|zip|bzip2} ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ you forgot the html version ;-) The various archive formats (gz, zip etc.) should be only distributed at the FTP server. HTTP is the wrong protocol for large files. We need a script which a) copy daily the handbook.* files from the web server to the FTP server. Same for the FAQ, tutorials and the translations (spanish, russian, japanese FAQ; etc.) b) add other archive formats a) can be performed with cvsup, using the -i option b) with a make file. -- Wolfram Schneider http://freebsd.org/~w/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 2 18:05:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA00168 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 18:05:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA29887 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 18:05:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA10211; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 00:53:03 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 00:53:03 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: Nik Clayton , Timothy J Luoma , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Several documentation questioons (all short) Message-ID: <19990103005303.A8643@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199812250645.BAA11174@ocalhost> <19981228184247.E8797@panke.de.freebsd.org> <19990101185917.A11635@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990102193013.A27153@panke.de.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <19990102193013.A27153@panke.de.freebsd.org>; from Wolfram Schneider on Sat, Jan 02, 1999 at 07:30:13PM +0100 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jan 02, 1999 at 07:30:13PM +0100, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > Just to make clear that this will not be the case with the new Handbook. > > PS, PDF, RTF, and Word .DOC versions can be generated from the Handbook > > with relative ease (once I get the JadeTeX patches back and tested). > > Yes, but there are many other documents which are still in > linuxdoc, e.g. FAQ, tutorials and many translations ;-/ Yes. As soon as I get the Handbook off my back I plan on tackling the FAQ. Which reminds me, I need to write an e-mail to the FAQ maintainer -- Doug White I think. . . > > I don't see any reason (except, possibly, diskspace) why the Handbook > > won't be available as handbook.{txt|pdf|ps|doc|rtf}.{gz|zip|bzip2} > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > you forgot the html version ;-) Oops. FWIW, I've spent large chunks of today doing battle with make(1), and a commit to come will see a new Makefile for doc/en/handbook which handles building and installing the Handbook in multiple versions, and immediate support for .gz, .bz2, and .zip compression formats. > The various archive formats (gz, zip etc.) should be only distributed > at the FTP server. HTTP is the wrong protocol for large files. Agreed. > We need a script which > a) copy daily the handbook.* files from > the web server to the FTP server. Same for the FAQ, > tutorials and the translations (spanish, russian, japanese > FAQ; etc.) > b) add other archive formats > > a) can be performed with cvsup, using the -i option > b) with a make file. Also agreed. As I say, (b) is almost ready to go on public display. N -- subterra superque womblia liber To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jan 2 23:45:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA25198 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 23:45:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dns1.fujieda-ssu.ac.jp (dns1.fujieda-ssu.ac.jp [210.172.81.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA25187 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 23:45:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mailboy33@msn.com) From: mailboy33@msn.com Received: by dns1.fujieda-ssu.ac.jp (8.8.5+2.7Wbeta5/3.4W2) id QAA23367; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 16:48:11 +0900 (JST) Date: Sun, 03 Jan 99 00:45:48 EST To: jhtrjh@worldnet.att.net Subject: StockNetworking News No. 11 Message-ID: <359DFE77.4AC9@erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org StockNetworking News No. 11 (SNN) HAPPY NEW YEAR AND PROFITABLE INVESTING TO ALL OUR SUBSCRIBERS IN 1999. 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