From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jul 11 1:34:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9B414C2A; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 01:34:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from green@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from green@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id BAA09996; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 01:34:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from green@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 01:34:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907110834.BAA09996@freefall.freebsd.org> To: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org, green@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12589: inetd.8 has a typo (``'': should be ``:'') Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: inetd.8 has a typo (``'': should be ``:'') State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: green State-Changed-When: Sun Jul 11 01:33:12 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: I've applied the change. Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jul 11 3:47:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A596214C23 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 03:47:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id MAA13998 for doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 12:47:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id MAA00937; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 12:46:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Message-ID: <19990711124659.40578@panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 12:46:59 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: [phj@cn.FreeBSD.org: new ftp & CVSup sites in cn.FreeBSD.org] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Forwarded message from Peng HaiJie ----- Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 12:09:04 GMT From: Peng HaiJie Message-Id: <199907111209.MAA85502@cn.FreeBSD.org> To: wosch@freebsd.org Subject: new ftp & CVSup sites in cn.FreeBSD.org Webmaster: I had setuped ftp and CVSup services ,Would you add these entries into web page of http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/mirrors-cvsup.html and http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html ftp.cn.FreeBSD.org maitainer:phj@cn.FreeBSD.org cvsup.cn.FreeBSD.org maitainer:phj@cn.FreeBSD.org Thanks! -P.H.J. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jul 11 6: 1:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.kt.rim.or.jp (mail.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7682F14D80 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 06:01:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp) Received: from moon.sky.rim.or.jp (ppp504.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.140.154]) by mail.kt.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id WAA19666; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 22:00:52 +0900 (JST) Received: from sky.rim.or.jp (earth.sky.rim.or.jp [192.168.1.2]) by moon.sky.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.5Wpl4/moon-1.0) with ESMTP id WAA22901; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 22:00:49 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3788952C.8F8C593D@sky.rim.or.jp> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 21:59:24 +0900 From: Jun Kuriyama X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [ja] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nik Clayton Cc: John Polstra , doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk Subject: Re: Resolution: FDP reorganisation References: <19990628212827.C5662@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990705234732.R71138@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton wrote: > However, with the Japanese documentation this is not the case. The tags > there don't mean "This documentation was released with 3.1", but instead > mean "This documentation is now in sync with the English version that was > released at 3.1". The two meanings are not the same. Yes, we use tags for that reason. > In the repository copy we're not changing the content of the manual pages. > So the tags that indicate which revisions of the file correspond with the > revision of the file at the English release number should stay the same. Does that means your plan is based on "repository copy", not on "importing new files"? As I said before, I don't like losing histories of their files. IMHO, correct method of these works is: (1) Copy directories in repository. (2) Operating tags in their files. (add "old" prefix to tags in copied files) (3) "cvs remove"ing old directory. (so they've gone into Attic) This works well old and -current environment for translation. Does your plan include these works? # Sorry if you already mentioned about this. But this thread is # hard to read completely... -- Jun Kuriyama // kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp // kuriyama@FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jul 11 7:20: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D849715161 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA98068; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id B95F514D25; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 07:13:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <19990711141358.B95F514D25@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 07:13:58 -0700 (PDT) From: jobaldwi@vt.edu To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/12595: [PATCH] New FAQ Entry: "Why shouldn't I just go ahead and run -current?" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 12595 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] New FAQ Entry: "Why shouldn't I just go ahead and run -current?" >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Jul 11 07:20:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: John Baldwin >Release: 3.2-STABLE >Organization: >Environment: n/a >Description: A FAQ entry that will discourage people that shouldn't from running -current. >How-To-Repeat: "I just started running -current and now my box freezes!" x 200 >Fix: Apply this patch to doc/FAQ/hackers.sgml: Note: I am more familiar with DocBook than with LinuxDoc, so I may have some of the tags wrong. :( Index: hackers.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvs/doc/FAQ/hackers.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.16 diff -u -r1.16 hackers.sgml --- hackers.sgml 1999/04/09 15:43:23 1.16 +++ hackers.sgml 1999/07/11 13:54:49 @@ -35,6 +35,96 @@ + Why shouldn't I just go ahead and run -current? That's got + all the latest stuff, right? + + +

4.0 is the next major release of FreeBSD. For now, and for a + while, all -stable releases of FreeBSD will be in the 3.x + line. These are minor releases, which do not introduce big + changes and we try our best to avoid breaking compatibility + backward compatibility (binary, file formats, etc). + +

Meanwhile, our fearless developers are cooking the 4.0 + version. This branch is known as 4.0-current, or just -current + (since when 4.0 becomes stable, the current branch will become + 5.0-current). + +

Our developers are fearless because a -current system is + something in development, and, thus, subject to all sort of + bugs, which can wipe out your disks, burn your monitor, erase + your BIOS, overheat your CPU(s), spit out your PCI cards, send + the fans flying (sometimes throwing stuff at them first), make + international phone calls to phone sex services, print + pornography until your printer runs out of paper/toner (sorry, + no such luck... it's just the Stark report), send insulting + faxes to your boss, cheat on the mob and blame you for it, + attract attention for the gentle I.R.S. personel, blow your + house fuses, open the gas and then set your house on fire, make + your girlfriend break up with you (or your wife cheat on you), + and bomb Yugoslavia. This last one we are trying to debug, + though [NOTE: at the time of this writing, we have reports that + this bug has been fixed]. + +

Because of the above, we advise against using -current. If + you so insist, the following rules must be obeyed: + + + Read cvs-all. No, I'm not kidding. I mean it. + + Read freebsd-current. Yeah, that one too. + + If something fails, it's probably because you missed a + message on cvs-all or freebsd-current. + + If that's not the case, it's probably a temporary + bug. Cvsup again after the appropriate time (minimum of one + hour, though one full day is not unreasonable). + + If it still crashes *at the same location*, then it's + probably your fault. Junk your customized settings, and try to + reproduce it with a vanilla system. + + If you can reproduce it even with a vanilla system, then + you might actually have stumbled on a bug. Congratulations! + Find out what the bug is, and send us the patches. + + If you are not capable of the above, you might just keep + quiet and wait until someone fixes it. See steps 1 and 2 for + how do you know someone fixed it. + + On the other hand, you might help track down the + bug. See the handbook on getting crash dumps, kernel traces, + and such stuff. + + If you loose all data on your hard disks because of a + bug, that's one of the risks of running -current. Either you + can deal with that, or you shouldn't be running + -current. + + +

These rules, though written tongue-in-cheek, are for + real. FreeBSD 4.0-current is If you can live with that, and think you have any compelling + reason to run -current, read the handbook for further + instructions. + + +

Sorry if this seems too harsh, but many people are just not + used to the concept of a development tree available publicly, + and think of it as the "latest version". It is Contributed by + . + + + How do I make my own custom release? >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jul 11 12:35:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564D714DE4 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 12:35:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (haldjas.folklore.ee [172.17.2.1] (may be forged)) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA05372 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 22:35:25 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 22:35:25 +0300 (EEST) From: Narvi To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Additions to the 3rd chapter Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If I turn in two additions for chapter 3: * Essential commands * Where to find more on getting started with unix. Would they stand any change of getting in? At the moment the contect of chapter 3 can be summarised as: "See, there is the man command with which you can find out what some command does and there is the info cammand if you want to get information on GNU programs." Sander There is no love, no good, no happiness and no future - all these are just illusions. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jul 11 15:44:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E4114CA0 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 15:44:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.2) id VAA25622; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 21:07:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 21:07:00 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Jay Nelson Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Formatting Help Message-ID: <19990711210700.A61012@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990708222659.B1124@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Jay Nelson on Thu, Jul 08, 1999 at 06:58:00PM -0500 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jul 08, 1999 at 06:58:00PM -0500, Jay Nelson wrote: > As soon as the French translation problems are solved, I'll give it a > go and we can find out if it's worth considering. OK, that's fine with me. The current requirement for the teTeX flavour is more hystorical accident than anything else. It works pretty much out of the box, which was an important requirement, without requiring the user (or the port maintainer, which would probably have ended up being me) having to go out and fetch all the additional packages for TeX that teTeX comes bundled with. A 'lite' TeX installation that lets FDP contributors build PS and PDF versions of the docs without needing the full install of teTeX would be a useful option to have. Thanks, N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jul 11 15:45: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A20DB14DD1 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 15:44:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.2) id VAA29263; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 21:37:02 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 21:37:02 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Narvi Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Additions to the 3rd chapter Message-ID: <19990711213702.C61012@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Narvi on Sun, Jul 11, 1999 at 10:35:25PM +0300 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jul 11, 1999 at 10:35:25PM +0300, Narvi wrote: > If I turn in two additions for chapter 3: > > * Essential commands > * Where to find more on getting started with unix. > > Would they stand any change of getting in? Yes, definitely. All submissions are very welcome. The standard drill of using send-pr(1) to submit them apply. Read the FDP primer for hints on style, and your submission will be committed much faster if (a) It's already in DocBook SGML format (b) The formatting of the source matches the formatting used through out the rest of the Handbook. Otherwise I'll have to run it through the txt2docbook filter, and then make sure it's formatted nicely, then I'll commit it. Oh, and obviously the text has to make sense as well :-) Many thanks, N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jul 11 15:45:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14F814ED5 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 15:44:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.2) id VAA28976; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 21:34:44 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 21:34:44 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Dutch Collins Cc: bsd-doc Subject: Re: Documents - the plain paper look - always? Message-ID: <19990711213444.B61012@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <3788A8FE.2A8DBAB2@charm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <3788A8FE.2A8DBAB2@charm.net>; from Dutch Collins on Sun, Jul 11, 1999 at 10:23:58AM -0400 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Sun, Jul 11, 1999 at 10:23:58AM -0400, Dutch Collins wrote: > I have stuffed DocBook in the 'ol brain and have a question(s). > > 1) What are the limits to page beautification, shading and color. Depends. DocBook itself says very little about how the information in the document should be formatted. Currently, we use a stylesheets written in a (scheme-like) language called DSSSL to do that, and a processor (called Jade) which reads in the DocBook and the stylesheet, and generates the formatted output. > 2) I looked over the CD-ROM (walcrk) and did not find the BSD version > of DocBook. Do I have to ftp the DocBook-FreeBSD version from > FreeBSD.org? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dtd You'll also need the CATALOG file and freebsd.dsl file in that directory as well. The organisation is tied quite heavily to the FDP. If you're planning on using these with your own documents, but aren't up to speed with SGML and DSSSL yet, I recommend using CVSup to download doc/en/* and doc/share/*, and seeing how the Makefiles use the various programs to generate the formatted output from doc/en/handbook/ and doc/en/tutorials/docproj-primer/. > 3) Almost all web sites I visited that had something to do with > documentation had the same look, plain paper. Is this the preferred > look for sites or just a look generated by DocBook? It's a look generated by the 'default' DSSSL stylesheets, written by Norm Walsh. They're not 'default' in the sense that they ship with DocBook, but they are the most complete set in existence, and since the output is (for most people) 'good enough', no one bothers to customise the output. It can be customised, either by tweaking variables in the stylesheets, or by rewriting the stylesheets functions to do things differently. The previously mentioned freebsd.dsl file does this in some cases. I'm no style maven, so if you've got suggestions for how the look and feel of the formatted documentation could be improved then I'm all ears. > a) New Topic: WP8 does have DocBook and the DOD SGML on the CD. I > think I have enough windoze\disk\space to give it a try. What > kind of HTML will fall out? Got me. As soon as I generate > something useful I will post the URL. It will be notes or maybe > a man page. ???Maybe something from my C books from 198x years.??? Absolutely no idea I'm afraid. I haven't got WP8 installed. But I'm interested in your results. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jul 11 20: 8:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from fellspt.charm.net (fellspt.charm.net [199.0.70.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4ED514D71 for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 20:08:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dutch@charm.net) Received: from charm.net (coretel-116-251.charm.net [209.143.116.251]) by fellspt.charm.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA16399; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 23:07:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37895BA7.3D21CB1D@charm.net> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 23:06:15 -0400 From: Dutch Collins X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nik Clayton Cc: bsd-doc Subject: Re: Documents - the plain paper look - always? References: <3788A8FE.2A8DBAB2@charm.net> <19990711213444.B61012@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton wrote: > > Hi, > > On Sun, Jul 11, 1999 at 10:23:58AM -0400, Dutch Collins wrote: > > I have stuffed DocBook in the 'ol brain and have a question(s). > > > > 1) What are the limits to page beautification, shading and color. > > Depends. DocBook itself says very little about how the information in > the document should be formatted. Currently, we use a stylesheets written > in a (scheme-like) language called DSSSL to do that, and a processor > (called Jade) which reads in the DocBook and the stylesheet, and generates > the formatted output. > > > 2) I looked over the CD-ROM (walcrk) and did not find the BSD version > > of DocBook. Do I have to ftp the DocBook-FreeBSD version from > > FreeBSD.org? > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dtd > > You'll also need the CATALOG file and freebsd.dsl file in that directory > as well. > > The organisation is tied quite heavily to the FDP. If you're planning > on using these with your own documents, but aren't up to speed with > SGML and DSSSL yet, I recommend using CVSup to download doc/en/* and > doc/share/*, and seeing how the Makefiles use the various programs to > generate the formatted output from doc/en/handbook/ and > doc/en/tutorials/docproj-primer/. > > > 3) Almost all web sites I visited that had something to do with > > documentation had the same look, plain paper. Is this the preferred > > look for sites or just a look generated by DocBook? > > It's a look generated by the 'default' DSSSL stylesheets, written by > Norm Walsh. They're not 'default' in the sense that they ship with > DocBook, but they are the most complete set in existence, and since the > output is (for most people) 'good enough', no one bothers to customise > the output. > > It can be customised, either by tweaking variables in the stylesheets, or > by rewriting the stylesheets functions to do things differently. The > previously mentioned freebsd.dsl file does this in some cases. > > I'm no style maven, so if you've got suggestions for how the look and feel > of the formatted documentation could be improved then I'm all ears. > > > a) New Topic: WP8 does have DocBook and the DOD SGML on the CD. I > > think I have enough windoze\disk\space to give it a try. What > > kind of HTML will fall out? Got me. As soon as I generate > > something useful I will post the URL. It will be notes or maybe > > a man page. ???Maybe something from my C books from 198x years.??? > > Absolutely no idea I'm afraid. I haven't got WP8 installed. But I'm > interested in your results. > > N > -- Well, I have a lot to do, don't I. Downloaded Jade, bookmarked a few SGML/DSSL sites, and took the day off. I did tinker with style sheets a while back and threw a page up - it is sad but still there, http://charm.net/~treecat/ , till I blank it. WP8: I am working on it. No useful notes so far, however, I think something useful will come out of the exercise. Anyway, I am using win95 right now because my ISP does not 'do' remote X-term, so, until I get the new drive I will FTP every thing to my BSDI (csh) acnt. so I can get something done. FreeBSD back up (gigabytes!) by next Friday??? Back to WP8. The nature of the wordprocessor is to try to protect the user from themselves. This results in a odd (to me) series of edit windows instead if just text editing like in emacs or pico (vi == ick). The good news is, WP8 allows text input if one wants to. It also validates every line so the user cannot input bad codes by mistake. The user can keep any bad SGML but it will not validate. It also enforces the rules. I guess what I mean is, , will be flagged as an error in the code tree that is displayed to the left of the text source. The text source is displayed as a normal WP style window. Well, that was not as clear as I wanted, but I do not know enough right now to really use the Code in a meaningful way. Later descriptions should be better. Maybe a step-by-step because it is so different. If I am lucky I can run the output through sgml to html and have a new page. Will see. Talk later - d To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jul 11 20:30:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D10014CFC for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 20:30:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id UAA47524; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 20:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 685DE151E0; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 20:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <19990712032405.685DE151E0@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 20:24:05 -0700 (PDT) From: jobaldwi@vt.edu To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/12599: [PATCH]: Minor style nits and a new FAQ entry re: bad ports under -stable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 12599 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH]: Minor style nits and a new FAQ entry re: bad ports under -stable >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Jul 11 20:30:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: John Baldwin >Release: 3.2-STABLE >Organization: >Environment: n/a >Description: This patch contains a few minor style nits to make the later FAQ entries consistent with previous entries. Also fixed broken URL for 4.0-current ports and mentioned wher 3.0-stable ports can be found. Also added entry about what to do when a new port won't compile under -stable. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Apply this patch to doc/FAQ/applications.sgml: Index: applications.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvs/doc/FAQ/applications.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.10 diff -u -r1.10 applications.sgml --- applications.sgml 1999/05/21 02:52:40 1.10 +++ applications.sgml 1999/07/12 03:18:40 @@ -3,7 +3,7 @@ User Applications - + So, where are all the user applications? @@ -41,9 +41,9 @@ - for 4.0-current - + for 3.x-stable/4.0-current +

or your nearest local mirror site. @@ -123,24 +123,34 @@ start is where you'll find the INN FAQ. - - - What version of Microsoft FrontPage should I get? - + + What version of Microsoft FrontPage should I get? + -

Use the Port, Luke! A pre-patched version of Apache is available in the ports tree. -

+

Use the Port, Luke! A pre-patched version of Apache is + available in the ports tree. - + Does FreeBSD support Java? - Does FreeBSD support Java? +

Yes. Please see . -

Yes. Please see . + + + I can't build a new port on my 3.x-stable machine! + - +

If you're running a release version that lags significantly + behind -current or -stable, you will require a ports upgrade kit + from . If you are up to date, + then, someone running only on a -current box might have + committed a change to the port which broke it with 3.x. Please + submit a bug report on this with send-pr since the -current + ports collection is supposed to work with both the -current and + -stable branches. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 12 0:43:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E8514C98 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 00:43:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id CAA09173; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 02:40:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca4-70.ix.netcom.com(205.186.212.198) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma009148; Mon Jul 12 02:39:59 1999 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.6.9) id AAA68050; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 00:39:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 00:39:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199907120739.AAA68050@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: silvia.hip.berkeley.edu: asami set sender to asami@cs.berkeley.edu using -f To: kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp Cc: nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk, jdp@polstra.com, doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk In-reply-to: <3788952C.8F8C593D@sky.rim.or.jp> (message from Jun Kuriyama on Sun, 11 Jul 1999 21:59:24 +0900) Subject: Re: Resolution: FDP reorganisation From: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) References: <19990628212827.C5662@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990705234732.R71138@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <3788952C.8F8C593D@sky.rim.or.jp> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * From: Jun Kuriyama * (1) Copy directories in repository. * (2) Operating tags in their files. (add "old" prefix to tags in copied * files) * (3) "cvs remove"ing old directory. (so they've gone into Attic) I also suggested (in a mail that Nik didn't respond to) changing tag names from "release_*" to "RELEASE_*" in the new copies so we can have a consistent set of tags in the new files (assuming we start using "RELEASE_*" tag names from now on). Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 12 6:18:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DED614D26; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 06:18:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jesusr@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id GAA04810; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 06:18:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 06:18:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907121318.GAA04810@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jesusr@ncsa.es, jesusr@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12572: Typos on spanish web Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Typos on spanish web State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jesusr State-Changed-When: Mon Jul 12 06:17:29 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Typos have been fixed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 12 7:40: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B4314BD6 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 07:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA13988; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 07:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 07:40:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199907121440.HAA13988@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: docs/7791: ipf(1) and ipfstat(1) should have been ipf(8) and ipfstat(8) Reply-To: Kris Kennaway Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/7791; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Kris Kennaway To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/7791: ipf(1) and ipfstat(1) should have been ipf(8) and ipfstat(8) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 00:01:52 +0930 (CST) IMO ipf should definitely be in section 8 - after all, it's a command which can only be run by root. Precedent: ipfw(8) Kris ----- "Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes." -- Unknown To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 12 7:55:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07BB14FB9; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 07:55:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from sheldonh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA15978; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 07:55:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 07:55:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907121455.HAA15978@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sheldonh@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, sheldonh@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12599: [PATCH]: Minor style nits and a new FAQ entry re: bad ports under -stable Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH]: Minor style nits and a new FAQ entry re: bad ports under -stable Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->sheldonh Responsible-Changed-By: sheldonh Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Jul 12 07:54:44 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take this one. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 12 8:20: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1056E14BF8 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 08:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id IAA19634; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 08:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 08:20:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199907121520.IAA19634@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Sheldon Hearn Subject: Re: docs/12595: [PATCH] New FAQ Entry: "Why shouldn't I just go ahead and run -current?" Reply-To: Sheldon Hearn Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/12595; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Sheldon Hearn To: John Baldwin Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/12595: [PATCH] New FAQ Entry: "Why shouldn't I just go ahead and run -current?" Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 17:09:01 +0200 Hi John, I think we were all very impressed with Daniel's little rant. However, do you really think that adding this _to_ _the_ _FAQ_ will actually reduce the number of times this question crops up on the hackers and current mailing lists? I don't think so. I think that the only value of having this in the FAQ is so that we can give people the snotty response "Read the FAQ" when they ask. Are you sure that this is a sound motivation for adding the entry to the FAQ? This is a genuine question, I'm not just stabbing at the idea. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 12 11: 0: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F9FC1518A for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 11:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA36365; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 11:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fed-ef1.frb.gov (fed.frb.gov [132.200.32.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAB9E150E1 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:58:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from seth@freebie.dp.ny.frb.org) Received: by fed-ef1.frb.gov; id NAA12602; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 13:57:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1pmdf.frb.gov(192.168.3.38) by fed.frb.gov via smap (V4.2) id xma012345; Mon, 12 Jul 99 13:57:13 -0400 Message-Id: <199907121757.NAA08806@freebie.dp.ny.frb.org> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 13:57:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Seth Reply-To: seth@freebie.dp.ny.frb.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/12610: Doc fix for bootptab(5) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 12610 >Category: docs >Synopsis: fix typo in bootptab(5) manpage >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Jul 12 11:00:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Seth >Release: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: n/a >Description: Typo in man page for bootptab(5). Not urgent at all. Diff attached. .\" Copyright (c) 1988, 1989, 1991 Carnegie Mellon University .\" .\" $Id: bootptab.5,v 1.2 1998/02/03 07:30:22 charnier Exp $ .\" >How-To-Repeat: man 5 bootptab >Fix: (output of diff, corrected manpage as first argument) 17c17 < Its format is similar to that of --- > It's format is similar to that of 305c305 < value. Its presence indicates that the hostname should be sent to RFC1084 --- > value. It's presence indicates that the hostname should be sent to RFC1084 >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 12 11: 0:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A16611522C for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 11:00:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA36396 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 11:00:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 11:00:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199907121800.LAA36396@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1999/06/24] docs/12377 doc differences of a NULL login class need am 1 problem total. Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1999/06/12] docs/12181 doc [Patch] doc/en/handbook/kernelconfig/chap o [1999/06/23] docs/12372 doc man page HISTORY for strdup is wrong 2 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [1998/04/14] docs/6295 doc Reference to nonexistent file in Device D o [1998/04/15] docs/6307 doc sgmlfmt not `make -jN' ready a [1998/07/31] docs/7456 doc dialog(3) man page outdated a [1998/08/31] docs/7791 doc ipf(1) and ipfstat(1) should have been ip o [1998/09/13] docs/7914 doc no elf(5) manpage o [1998/10/25] docs/8445 doc Update of "Installing Mathematica on Free o [1999/02/11] docs/10038 doc Added a site and bug fix (part two) o [1999/02/14] docs/10084 doc new FreeBSD user group in Yogyakarta City o [1999/02/14] docs/10085 doc NIS Setup Tutorial o [1999/02/14] docs/10098 doc Lack of overall guide for NIS setup o [1999/02/21] docs/10180 doc Another mirror site not listed... o [1999/02/21] docs/10182 doc http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?p o [1999/02/25] docs/10240 doc We need a script which check if our web m o [1999/03/07] docs/10472 doc Mailing list for discussion of Xircom dri o [1999/03/08] docs/10488 doc Error in entry for 02/27 in calendar.hist o [1999/03/09] docs/10512 doc ENOBUFS returnable from writev(2) but not o [1999/03/18] docs/10660 doc User Group not listed o [1999/03/18] docs/10664 doc Notes on 2.2.8 -> 3.1 migration o [1999/03/23] docs/10762 doc geocrawler.com mailing list archives o [1999/03/29] docs/10850 doc submitting a documentation change for sed o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/04/11] docs/11087 doc Portland FreeBSD users group o [1999/04/11] docs/11089 doc freebsd user group, sydney o [1999/04/11] docs/11090 doc User's group in Melbourne Australia o [1999/04/21] docs/11258 doc suggestion to refine npx.4 o [1999/05/11] docs/11643 doc handbook should state alternatives o [1999/06/01] docs/11978 doc timed(8) manpage does not define '-F' swi o [1999/06/04] docs/12021 doc support.sgml Sydney UG update o [1999/06/07] docs/12075 doc [PATCH] Ports Changes Page Does not List o [1999/06/10] docs/12128 doc Cosmetics changes in eresoureses.sgml o [1999/06/11] docs/12132 doc Invalid URL at http://www.freebsd.org/int o [1999/06/15] docs/12220 doc No manual page on system command "getkern o [1999/06/22] docs/12343 doc make.conf error in documentation (COM2) o [1999/06/23] docs/12360 doc telnet(1) man-page doesn't describe skey o [1999/06/28] docs/12435 doc allied telesys is now allied telesyn o [1999/06/28] docs/12440 doc added an example to diff(1) man page o [1999/07/11] docs/12595 doc [PATCH] New FAQ Entry: "Why shouldn't I j o [1999/07/12] docs/12610 doc fix typo in bootptab(5) manpage 38 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 12 11:40: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD57215025; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 11:40:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA40151; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 11:39:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 11:39:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907121839.LAA40151@freefall.freebsd.org> To: seth@freebie.dp.ny.frb.org, mpp@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12610: fix typo in bootptab(5) manpage Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: fix typo in bootptab(5) manpage State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: mpp State-Changed-When: Mon Jul 12 11:38:58 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: The typo was fixed, along with another one I noticed while I was at it. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 12 13:36:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 406ED14BED; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 13:36:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from tom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id NAA61991; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 13:34:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 13:34:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907122034.NAA61991@freefall.freebsd.org> To: tom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, tom@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10660: User Group not listed Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: User Group not listed Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->tom Responsible-Changed-By: tom Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Jul 12 13:34:14 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take this one To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 12 13:41: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3C7E15262; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 13:40:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.2) id VAA04904; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 21:22:57 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 21:22:55 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami Cc: kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp, nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk, jdp@polstra.com, doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk Subject: Re: Resolution: FDP reorganisation Message-ID: <19990712212255.A4525@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990628212827.C5662@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990705234732.R71138@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <3788952C.8F8C593D@sky.rim.or.jp> <199907120739.AAA68050@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199907120739.AAA68050@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu>; from Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami on Mon, Jul 12, 1999 at 12:39:53AM -0700 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jul 12, 1999 at 12:39:53AM -0700, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami wrote: > * From: Jun Kuriyama > > * (1) Copy directories in repository. > * (2) Operating tags in their files. (add "old" prefix to tags in copied > * files) > * (3) "cvs remove"ing old directory. (so they've gone into Attic) > > I also suggested (in a mail that Nik didn't respond to) changing tag > names from "release_*" to "RELEASE_*" in the new copies so we can have > a consistent set of tags in the new files (assuming we start using > "RELEASE_*" tag names from now on). Sorry, that must have passed me by. Yeah, as long as a consistent set of tags are used, I'm happy. That way other translation teams can use the same scheme. Deleting and re-applying tags is not a repository intensive operation is it (in terms of the bloat it would introduce)? N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 12 14: 0:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A21815231 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 14:00:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA64992; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 14:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 14:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199907122100.OAA64992@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: John Baldwin Subject: Re: docs/12595: [PATCH] New FAQ Entry: "Why shouldn't I just go Reply-To: John Baldwin Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/12595; it has been noted by GNATS. From: John Baldwin To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org, John Baldwin Subject: Re: docs/12595: [PATCH] New FAQ Entry: "Why shouldn't I just go Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 16:53:26 -0400 (EDT) On 12-Jul-99 Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > Hi John, > > I think we were all very impressed with Daniel's little rant. However, > do you really think that adding this _to_ _the_ _FAQ_ will actually > reduce the number of times this question crops up on the hackers and > current mailing lists? Hmmm. Maybe I'm weird, 'cause when I wanted to upgrade, I went straight to the handbook to find out how instead of just asking on -stable or -questions, so I tend to assume that if info is in the FAQ/handbook, people will hit that and not have to send a message to anyone. However, from my reading of the handbook, I did realize at the time what -current was and that I didn't need to run it, so I guess if someone is going to take the time to actually read the docs, they won't need the FAQ entry. So I guess no, it's not going to help. > I don't think so. I think that the only value of having this in the FAQ > is so that we can give people the snotty response "Read the FAQ" when > they ask. Agreed. > Are you sure that this is a sound motivation for adding the entry to the > FAQ? This is a genuine question, I'm not just stabbing at the idea. Now that I've thought about it more, no. My earlier inclination was "Hey, here's something I can SGML-ify to help out." And on the surface it would seem to be helpful, but when you think about it, the information is already there. > Ciao, > Sheldon. --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 12 14:31:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BFFC14D30; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 14:31:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from sheldonh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA67417; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 14:28:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 14:28:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907122128.OAA67417@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jobaldwi@vt.edu, sheldonh@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12595: [PATCH] New FAQ Entry: "Why shouldn't I just go ahead and run -current?" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] New FAQ Entry: "Why shouldn't I just go ahead and run -current?" State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: sheldonh State-Changed-When: Mon Jul 12 14:26:12 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: The submitter and I are in agreement that Daniel's FAQ entry wasn't really intended as a serious FAQ that would actually reduce the number of questions asked on -current or -hackers. :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 12 15: 7:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0044B1524C; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:07:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from tom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA70905; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:07:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:07:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907122207.PAA70905@freefall.freebsd.org> To: tom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, tom@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12021: support.sgml Sydney UG update Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: support.sgml Sydney UG update Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->tom Responsible-Changed-By: tom Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Jul 12 15:06:26 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take this one To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 12 15: 9:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 944231524C; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:09:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from tom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA71075; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:08:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:08:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907122208.PAA71075@freefall.freebsd.org> To: tom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, tom@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10038: Added a site and bug fix (part two) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Added a site and bug fix (part two) Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->tom Responsible-Changed-By: tom Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Jul 12 15:07:27 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take this one To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 12 15:24:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E8C152A1 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:24:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@cs.berkeley.edu) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA20754; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 17:20:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca4-70.ix.netcom.com(205.186.212.198) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma020731; Mon Jul 12 17:20:30 1999 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.6.9) id PAA80178; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:20:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:20:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199907122220.PAA80178@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: silvia.hip.berkeley.edu: asami set sender to asami@cs.berkeley.edu using -f To: nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk Cc: kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp, nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk, jdp@polstra.com, doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk In-reply-to: <19990712212255.A4525@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> (message from Nik Clayton on Mon, 12 Jul 1999 21:22:55 +0100) Subject: Re: Resolution: FDP reorganisation From: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) References: <19990628212827.C5662@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990705234732.R71138@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <3788952C.8F8C593D@sky.rim.or.jp> <199907120739.AAA68050@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> <19990712212255.A4525@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * From: Nik Clayton * Sorry, that must have passed me by. Yeah, as long as a consistent set * of tags are used, I'm happy. That way other translation teams can use * the same scheme. John suggested using "jp_X_Y_Z". That's ok for us (although I'm not sure why it's not "ja_X_Y_Z" now that I think about it). * Deleting and re-applying tags is not a repository intensive operation is * it (in terms of the bloat it would introduce)? You probably want to do it as a direct operation on the repository files. Look at one of the ,v files, the tags are in the "symbols" section at the beginning. You can just run a large sed on them. Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 12 15:25:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A02B152A1; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:24:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA15821; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:23:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA34982; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:23:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199907122220.PAA80178@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:23:36 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Polstra & Co., Inc. From: John Polstra To: (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Subject: Re: Resolution: FDP reorganisation Cc: freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk, doc@freebsd.org, kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp, nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami wrote: > > John suggested using "jp_X_Y_Z". That's ok for us (although I'm not > sure why it's not "ja_X_Y_Z" now that I think about it). Either one is OK with me. I just want something that's obviously not a release tag that user's will be tempted to use. > * Deleting and re-applying tags is not a repository intensive operation is > * it (in terms of the bloat it would introduce)? > > You probably want to do it as a direct operation on the repository > files. Look at one of the ,v files, the tags are in the "symbols" > section at the beginning. You can just run a large sed on them. I'll take care of the tags. I already have a script for it. John --- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up." -- Nora Ephron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 12 15:28:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A63215295; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:28:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.2) id XAA19038; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:14:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:14:04 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: sheldonh@FreeBSD.org Cc: jobaldwi@vt.edu, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12595: [PATCH] New FAQ Entry: "Why shouldn't I just go ahead and run -current?" Message-ID: <19990712231404.A18590@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199907122128.OAA67417@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199907122128.OAA67417@freefall.freebsd.org>; from sheldonh@FreeBSD.org on Mon, Jul 12, 1999 at 02:28:55PM -0700 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jul 12, 1999 at 02:28:55PM -0700, sheldonh@FreeBSD.org wrote: > Synopsis: [PATCH] New FAQ Entry: "Why shouldn't I just go ahead and run -current?" > > State-Changed-From-To: open->closed > State-Changed-By: sheldonh > State-Changed-When: Mon Jul 12 14:26:12 PDT 1999 > State-Changed-Why: > The submitter and I are in agreement that Daniel's FAQ entry wasn't > really intended as a serious FAQ that would actually reduce the number > of questions asked on -current or -hackers. :-) I'm in two minds about this -- I can see your point, that the sort of people it's aimed at probably won't read it anyway, but. . . it might make a difference. Given that we don't know whether it will or not, and since the submission would drop straight in to the FAQ with no changes required, isn't it a better idea just to put it in anyway? I mean, what do we lose by doing so? N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 12 15:28:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F10D152B2; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:28:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.2) id XAA18383; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:09:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:09:00 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org, jdp@freebsd.org, wosch@freebsd.org Subject: Timetable for doc/ repository changes Message-ID: <19990712230859.K54911@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990712122735.E2353@lehman.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990712122735.E2353@lehman.com>; from Nik Clayton on Mon, Jul 12, 1999 at 12:27:35PM +0100 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Folks [ Sent to -doc, John Polstra as the repository manager who'll be looking after this, and Wolfram Schneider, as this will affect the website ] Hopefully everyone's now had plenty of time to look at the script I posted a few weeks back which demonstrated exactly what changes are being made to the CVS tree. I've (I believe) calmed the fears of the Japanese translation team that the installation directory of doc/ja/ will be going away at any point in the near future, and we are hopefully in sufficient agreement that we can now progress to the actual implementation. In addition, I think (but would like confirmed) that John agrees that sliding or renaming the release* tags in doc/ja/ is now not necessary, because of how the tags are intended to be used. Because of the nature of the change, there will be a window of time during which the doc/ repository will fail to build successfully. This is unavoidable, as various changes will need to be made to the Makefiles after the files have been moved for everything to work. Obviously, if the repository fails to build it's much harder for people to continue working on the documentation, and anything that depends on the doc/ repository (for example, the web site builds) will also be affected. So I want to try and minimise this window as much as possible. For the specific case of the main web site, I'll update the "webbuild" script so that it uses an archive of the docs, rather than the live doc repository. This will allow the main FreeBSD web site to continue to build as normal, so there shouldn't be any problems there. However, there may be issues with mirrows of the FreeBSD web site, and I will be contacting the site mirror maintainers shortly to alert them of the problem. I estimate that fixing up doc/ after the repository copies have been completed will take me most of an evening. Generally, my free evenings in any given week are Monday -- Free all evening Tuesday -- Not free Wednesday -- Free all evening Thursday -- Free on all alternate Thursdays (next free is the 22nd) Friday -- Generally not free Saturday -- Generally not free Sunday -- Normally free Basically, this means any Monday, Wednesday, or Sunday evening are best for this to happen (from my point of view). John, how does this fit in with your schedule? Once we've decided a date for this to happen, I think the order of events is as follows; Action Responsible ------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out a complete copy of doc/ somewhere nik permanent on hub. Adjust "webbuild" to use this checked out copy, nik instead of trying to check out a fresh copy each time. Edit the AVAIL file, so that only I can commit to jdp doc/ Carry out the repository copy. jdp Fixup the Makefiles, perform any "cvs rm" commands nik necessary to get doc/ to build. Commit these changes. Announce a tentative all-clear. Get others to test nik the changes (Japanese team? Spanish team?) Reverse the change to AVAIL, so that others can now nik commit back to doc/ Anything that I've missed? N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 12 15:31:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96883152B4 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:31:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 113obT-000Mof-00; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 00:31:15 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Nik Clayton Cc: jobaldwi@vt.edu, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12595: [PATCH] New FAQ Entry: "Why shouldn't I just go ahead and run -current?" In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:14:04 +0100." <19990712231404.A18590@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 00:31:15 +0200 Message-ID: <87708.931818675@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:14:04 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > I mean, what do we lose by doing so? We don't lose anything, although I personally wouldn't want to be affiliated with the attitude I picked up in the entry. When I'm deciding whether or not to add something to FreeBSD, I'm not motivated by what we lose if I do it -- I'm motivated by what we gain. But freebsd-doc is your domain, so I wouldn't have a cow if you committed the entry. :-) Later, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 12 17: 1: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tok.qiv.com (tok.qiv.com [205.238.142.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1347014EA6 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 17:00:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdn@acp.qiv.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tok.qiv.com (MailHost/Current) with UUCP id SAA30473; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 18:30:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (jdn@localhost) by acp.qiv.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA63987; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 18:22:51 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jdn@acp.qiv.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 18:22:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Jay Nelson To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Formatting Help In-Reply-To: <19990711210700.A61012@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 11 Jul 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: [snip] >A 'lite' TeX installation that lets FDP contributors build PS and PDF >versions of the docs without needing the full install of teTeX would be >a useful option to have. I think so, too, particularly since teTeX runs to 100+MB now. I've just started, so we should know in a while. If this looks productive, I suspect I'll probably need some help from those working in other languages to make sure we are getting all the right pieces -- but I'm getting ahead of myself. I'll keep you posted. -- Jay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 12 17:11: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dt054n86.san.rr.com (dt054n86.san.rr.com [24.30.152.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DFAF15057 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 17:11:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by dt054n86.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA08797; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 17:10:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 17:10:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug X-Sender: doug@dt054n86.san.rr.com To: Nik Clayton Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/12595: [PATCH] New FAQ Entry: "Why shouldn't I just go ahead and run -current?" In-Reply-To: <19990712231404.A18590@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > I'm in two minds about this -- I can see your point, that the sort of > people it's aimed at probably won't read it anyway, but. . . it might > make a difference. Given that we don't know whether it will or not, > and since the submission would drop straight in to the FAQ with no > changes required, isn't it a better idea just to put it in anyway? I agree with Nik. There are a certain percentage of users who do actually read things like the FAQ, and misunderstand that "-current" means "new and cool." It would also be nice to have all of the reasons not to run -current collected in a faq entry, because *answering* questions on the lists with FAQ's is almost as good as preventing them from popping up. The one thing I would add is that world build problems in -current are often fixed by 'chflags -R noschg /usr/obj/* && rm -rf /usr/obj/* && make -DNOCLEAN world' (suitably formatted of course). The reason this often does the trick is that dependencies sometimes get stale after things are changed in the tree, so a virgin object directory fixes things up. HTH, Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has to keep a government four years, no matter what it does. -- Will Rogers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 12 20: 3:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 552A914F75; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:03:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA17013; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:03:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA35619; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:03:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990712230859.K54911@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:03:25 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Polstra & Co., Inc. From: John Polstra To: Nik Clayton Subject: RE: Timetable for doc/ repository changes Cc: wosch@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton wrote: > Hopefully everyone's now had plenty of time to look at the script > I posted a few weeks back which demonstrated exactly what changes > are being made to the CVS tree. I've (I believe) calmed the fears > of the Japanese translation team that the installation directory of > doc/ja/ will be going away at any point in the near future, and we > are hopefully in sufficient agreement that we can now progress to > the actual implementation. We haven't heard from Wolfram lately -- let's make sure he's OK with this. (He's on the cc list, I know.) > In addition, I think (but would like confirmed) that John agrees > that sliding or renaming the release* tags in doc/ja/ is now not > necessary, because of how the tags are intended to be used. No, on the contrary, I insist upon renaming the tags so that they (a) are different from the existing tags, and (b) won't be mistaken for FreeBSD release tags. > However, there may be issues with mirrows of the FreeBSD web site, > and I will be contacting the site mirror maintainers shortly to > alert them of the problem. Just a word of warning from my experience as CVSup-meister: be prepared for this step to take a _long_ time. :-( > I estimate that fixing up doc/ after the repository copies have been > completed will take me most of an evening. Generally, my free evenings > in any given week are > > Monday -- Free all evening > Tuesday -- Not free > Wednesday -- Free all evening > Thursday -- Free on all alternate Thursdays (next free is the 22nd) > Friday -- Generally not free > Saturday -- Generally not free > Sunday -- Normally free > > Basically, this means any Monday, Wednesday, or Sunday evening are best > for this to happen (from my point of view). John, how does this fit in > with your schedule? Summertime is so crazy that I can't really generalize about the days of the week. I'm sure we can work out a specific date, though. John --- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up." -- Nora Ephron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 12 20:40: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD0D15166 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:40:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id UAA04915; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:40:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from kot.ne.mediaone.net (kot.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.15.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17DA014E08 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:35:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from guest.newton (guest.newton [10.10.0.3]) by kot.ne.mediaone.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA06905 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:38:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mi@localhost) by guest.newton (8.9.3/8.9.1) id XAA21179; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:34:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907130334.XAA21179@guest.newton> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:34:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Mikhail Teterin Reply-To: mi@aldan.algebra.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/12619: dhclient-lease(8) does not exist; dhclient.leases(5) does Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 12619 >Category: docs >Synopsis: dhclient-lease(8) does not exist; dhclient.leases(5) does >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Jul 12 20:40:02 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mikhail Teterin >Release: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 >Organization: Virtual Estates, Inc. >Environment: >Description: The dhclient-lease(8) referenced in dhclient.conf(5) does not exist. dhclient.conf is referenced as dhclient.conf(8) in the dhclient(8), while it lives in the section 5. >How-To-Repeat: RTFM-pages :-) >Fix: I'm not sure if dhclient.leases(5) is what is meant by the dhclient-lease(8), but the dhclient.8 is easily corrected by: --- dhclient.8.orig Mon Jul 12 23:29:45 1999 +++ contrib/isc-dhcp/client/dhclient.8 Mon Jul 12 23:30:43 1999 @@ -164 +164 @@ -The syntax of the dhclient.conf(8) file is discussed seperately. +The syntax of the dhclient.conf(5) file is discussed seperately. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 12 22:53:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ionet.net (mail.ionet.net [206.41.128.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F9314CA1 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:53:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dace82@geocities.com) Received: from desktop (lawnas1-40.ionet.net [38.193.116.54]) by ionet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA26771 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 00:56:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801beccf4$0a7cf340$03000004@desktop> From: "Skyler Unruh" To: Subject: I NEED HELP!!!!!!!! Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 00:53:29 -0500 Organization: EllisSoft MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BECCCA.202E06E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BECCCA.202E06E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have everything going ok, from what I can tell. I get to the visual = part and I dont know what to do. I have an old 486dx laptop, and I = decided to run FreeBSD rather than Windows because Windows always screws = up. 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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BECCCA.202E06E0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jul 13 4:54:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.rdg.ac.uk (sumh1.rdg.ac.uk [134.225.16.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C080214C17 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 04:54:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from visstmbl@reading.ac.uk) Received: from supc16 ([134.225.145.116] helo=supc16.rdg.ac.uk) by mailhost.rdg.ac.uk with esmtp (University of Reading Email Service) id {11416r-0007Gr-00} for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 12:52:29 +0100 Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 12:53:04 +0100 (BST) From: John Stumbles To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Keyboard: no / Q&A section of the Hardware Guide?? Message-ID: X-X-Sender: visstmbl@sumh1.rdg.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In the 'Installing FreeBSD' part of the handbook - http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/x775.html it says: 1. Boot the kern.flp floppy and, when asked, remove it and insert the mfsroot.flp floppy and hit return. After a boot sequence which can take anywhere from 30 seconds to 3 minutes, depending on your hardware, you should be presented with a menu of initial choices. If the kern.flp floppy does not boot at all, or the boot hangs at some stage, go read the Q&A section of the Hardware Guide for possible causes. OK so mine doesn't boot -- I get: /boot.config: -P Keyboard: no - BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.01 (Bit confusing that, as I'm sure I was using a keyboard on the system a moment ago, under DOS, to generate the boot floppies!) So what about this "Q&A section of the Hardware Guide" - where is this hardware guide (and it's in file handbook/x775.html - couldn't it be hyperlinked?!) At the moment I'm stuck: I've tried a different keyboard (both work under DOS). I've tried the boot floppies on another machine (so I know FreeBSD isn't a total lemon ;-) .... but it's a bit frustrating! cheers -- John Stumbles j.d.stumbles@reading.ac.uk I.T. Services Centre, University of Reading http://www.rdg.ac.uk/~visstmbl +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Press any key to continue or any other key to quit. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jul 13 5:39:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (storm.freebsd.org.uk [194.242.128.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8037614DB0 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 05:38:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@storm.FreeBSD.org.uk) Received: (from brian@localhost) by storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA73795 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:37:28 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:37:28 +0100 (BST) From: Brian Somers Message-Id: <199907131237.NAA73795@storm.FreeBSD.org.uk> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: A new section in the handbook ? Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [resent - I think it was mis-posted the first time] Hi, Chapter 27 of the handbook (Resources on the Internet) talks about mailing lists, usenet and www sites. Do people [dis]agree that a new section might be added here for ``Other servers'' or ``Other services''. These services could initially include offers of free FreeBSD related email addresses (user@ukug.uk.FreeBSD.org can be advertised immediately - anyone that wants one can have one... other user groups may want to do this too), and if anyone has a need for an account on a FreeBSD box (and wants to `further the cause'), shell accounts can be provided too. I'm sure other services & offers might also fit in here. I can start the section off with some offers from the UK user group - just to get the ball rolling :-) Suggestions / comments ? -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jul 13 6:40:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52F915304 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 06:40:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id GAA71495; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 06:40:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from logatome.micronet.fr (logatome-2.francenet.fr [193.149.96.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFA47152F3 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 06:32:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Sebastien.Gioria@FranceNet.fr) Received: from gioria.dialup.FranceNet.fr (eku28.francenet.fr [193.149.97.60]) by logatome.micronet.fr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21359 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 15:30:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: by gioria.dialup.FranceNet.fr (Postfix, from userid 42) id DB8092001C; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 15:30:45 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <19990713133045.DB8092001C@gioria.dialup.FranceNet.fr> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 15:30:45 +0200 (CEST) From: eagle@freebsd-fr.org Reply-To: eagle@freebsd-fr.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/12625: Update links for French Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 12625 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Update links for French >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jul 13 06:40:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Sebastien GIORIA >Release: FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386 >Organization: French FreeBSD Documentation Project >Environment: >Description: French mailling lists are moving. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- support.sgml.old Tue Jul 13 15:22:50 1999 +++ support.sgml Tue Jul 13 15:25:57 1999 @@ -51,7 +51,7 @@ href="mailto:majordomo@de.freebsd.org">majordomo@de.freebsd.org or WWW.
  • French -- majordomo@freebsd.francenet.fr + href="mailto:listserver@freebsd-fr.org">listserver@freebsd-fr.org or WWW.
  • French -- BSD.fr. Please contact @@ -110,6 +110,7 @@
    • Czech
    • Chinese FAQ +
    • French
    • German
    • Hungarian
    • Indonesian @@ -292,6 +293,11 @@ href="http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/">FreeBSD UKUG (FreeBSD UK User's Group) exists for the benefit of FreeBSD users in the United Kingdom. Please follow the link for details.

      • +
    + +
  • France The French FreeBSD UGPlease follow the + link for details.

    • North America

    >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jul 13 6:50: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5758B14D94 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 06:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id GAA72747; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 06:50:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from logatome.micronet.fr (logatome-2.francenet.fr [193.149.96.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968A714D94 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 06:44:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Sebastien.Gioria@FranceNet.fr) Received: from gioria.dialup.FranceNet.fr (eku28.francenet.fr [193.149.97.60]) by logatome.micronet.fr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA24077 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 15:41:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: by gioria.dialup.FranceNet.fr (Postfix, from userid 42) id 92E652001D; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 15:42:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <19990713134253.92E652001D@gioria.dialup.FranceNet.fr> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 15:42:53 +0200 (CEST) From: eagle@freebsd-fr.org Reply-To: eagle@freebsd-fr.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/12627: update the French FreeBSD Documentation Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 12627 >Category: docs >Synopsis: update the French FreeBSD Documentation Project >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Jul 13 06:50:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Sebastien GIORIA >Release: FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386 >Organization: French FreeBSD Documentation project >Environment: >Description: New mailling lists available >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- translations.sgml.old Tue Jul 13 15:32:26 1999 +++ translations.sgml Tue Jul 13 15:39:49 1999 @@ -55,8 +55,9 @@

    The FreeBSD French Documentation Project

    Web: http://www.freebsd-fr.org
    -
    Mailling list available
    -
    Send a mail to majordomo@freebsd.francenet.frwith the words "subscribe freebsd-france" in the body of the message
    Posting is allowed for the members at freebsd-fr@freebsd.francenet.fr
    +
    Mailling lists available
    +
    Send a mail to listserver@freebsd-fr.orgwith the words "SUB freebsd-questions" in the body of the message for subscribing to the question mailling list in French.
    +
    Send a mail to listserver@freebsd-fr.orgwith the words "SUB annonces" in the body of the message for subscribing to the annonce mailling list in French.
    Documents available
    FAQ
    Some tutorials
    @@ -66,7 +67,7 @@
    Handbook
    CVS repository
    CVS web
    - +
    Send a mail to listserver@freebsd-fr.orgwith the word s "SUB cvs" in the body of the message for subscribing to the French CVS update mailling list.
    >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jul 13 9:20:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58CF14D6F for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:20:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id JAA96591; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199907131620.JAA96591@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Mike Pritchard Subject: Re: docs/12627: update the French FreeBSD Documentation Project Reply-To: Mike Pritchard Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/12627; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Mike Pritchard To: eagle@freebsd-fr.org Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/12627: update the French FreeBSD Documentation Project Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:46:35 -0500 (CDT) > > >Number: 12627 > >Synopsis: update the French FreeBSD Documentation Project > > New mailling lists available > > >Fix: > -
    Mailling list available
    ^^^^^^^^^ Should be "mailing", not mailling. Same typo repeated throughout the patch. > +
    Send a mail to listserver@freebsd-fr.orgwith the words "SUB annonces" in the body of the message for subscribing to the annonce mailling list in French.
    ^^^^^^^ Should be "announce" and not "annonce". Is the "SUB annonces" directive correct? -- Mike Pritchard mpp@FreeBSD.ORG or mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jul 13 16: 6:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEABB15311 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 16:06:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.2) id XAA00650; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:59:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:59:35 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Brian Somers Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: A new section in the handbook ? Message-ID: <19990713235935.B24002@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199907131237.NAA73795@storm.FreeBSD.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199907131237.NAA73795@storm.FreeBSD.org.uk>; from Brian Somers on Tue, Jul 13, 1999 at 01:37:28PM +0100 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Brian, I could've sworn I'd replied to this last time -- obviously not :-) On Tue, Jul 13, 1999 at 01:37:28PM +0100, Brian Somers wrote: > Chapter 27 of the handbook (Resources on the Internet) talks about > mailing lists, usenet and www sites. > > Do people [dis]agree that a new section might be added here for > ``Other servers'' or ``Other services''. These services could > initially include offers of free FreeBSD related email addresses > (user@ukug.uk.FreeBSD.org can be advertised immediately - anyone that > wants one can have one... other user groups may want to do this too), > and if anyone has a need for an account on a FreeBSD box (and wants to > `further the cause'), shell accounts can be provided too. > > I'm sure other services & offers might also fit in here. > > I can start the section off with some offers from the UK user group - > just to get the ball rolling :-) No general objection to the concept here. I think breaking it down by service rather than country is probably a good idea. I.e., The following user groups offer free webspace for FreeBSD related projects. .... The following user groups offer @xx.freebsd.org e-mail addresses for people working on FreeBSD related projects. .... The following user groups can offer a CVS repository to people working on FreeBSD related projects. .... and so on. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jul 13 16: 6:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD3F15348 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 16:06:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.2) id XAA99793; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:56:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 23:56:16 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Jay Nelson Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Formatting Help Message-ID: <19990713235616.A24002@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990711210700.A61012@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Jay Nelson on Sun, Jul 11, 1999 at 06:22:50PM -0500 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jul 11, 1999 at 06:22:50PM -0500, Jay Nelson wrote: > On Sun, 11 Jul 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > >A 'lite' TeX installation that lets FDP contributors build PS and PDF > >versions of the docs without needing the full install of teTeX would be > >a useful option to have. > > I think so, too, particularly since teTeX runs to 100+MB now. I've > just started, so we should know in a while. > > If this looks productive, I suspect I'll probably need some help from > those working in other languages to make sure we are getting all the > right pieces -- but I'm getting ahead of myself. > > I'll keep you posted. Sounds great, and please do. Thanks for working on this -- anything that makes the doc building process more accessible is generally a good thing. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jul 13 16:19: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35B2D14CF8 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 16:18:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (207-172-143-123.s60.as1.hgt.md.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.143.123]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA28366 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:18:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907132318.TAA28366@smtp3.erols.com> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:18:58 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: General reccommendatiions re: LinuxDoc.. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone have any generic suggestions/rules etc. for marking up text in LinuxDoc (e.g. when adding FAQ entries). For example, should and

    tags have closing tags? Is there a certain set of tags for which minimization is preferred? IOW, I've seen a tags always as foo in the parts of the FAQ that I've seen. Is that a general rule for ? If anyone has some guidelines, etc., I'll try to collect them, SGML'ify them in DocBook, and see if Nik'll put them in the DocProj Primer. Also, I was going to submit a FAQ for installing splash screens as well as where to find them, mostly pulling from my splash screens gallery page. Should that go in Section 2: Installation or Section 9: X and Virtual Consoles? --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 14 2:31:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from quasar.uvt.ro (quasar.uvt.ro [193.226.13.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9505B14C15 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 02:31:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fgrama@quasar.uvt.ro) Received: from localhost (fgrama@localhost) by quasar.uvt.ro (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA09949 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 12:31:16 +0300 (EEST) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 12:31:16 +0300 (EEST) From: Florin Grama To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: A FreeBSD Administartion manual! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mister/Misses, I'd like to find somewhere a FreeBSD administration handbook in psd, ps or other format file. Maybe you can help me to find that. Thank you for your support. Best regards, ----------- Florin GRAMA fgrama@quasar.uvt.ro webmaster@uvt.ro gramaflorin@usa.net -------------------------------- The West University of Timisoara, Physics Department To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 14 8:34:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ender.ncsa.es (ender.ncsa.es [194.179.50.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA7F14CBA for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 08:34:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Received: from ender.ncsa.es (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ender.ncsa.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00377; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 17:33:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199907131237.NAA73795@storm.FreeBSD.org.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 17:33:02 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: jesusr@ncsa.es Organization: Nexus Comunicaciones, S.A. From: Jesus Rodriguez To: Brian Somers Subject: RE: A new section in the handbook ? Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 13-Jul-99 Brian Somers wrote: > [resent - I think it was mis-posted the first time] > > Hi, > > Chapter 27 of the handbook (Resources on the Internet) talks about > mailing lists, usenet and www sites. > > Do people [dis]agree that a new section might be added here for Agree! JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 14 10: 5:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ender.ncsa.es (ender.ncsa.es [194.179.50.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA7C14C97; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:05:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Received: from ender.ncsa.es (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ender.ncsa.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA00491; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 19:02:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990712230859.K54911@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 19:02:43 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: jesusr@ncsa.es Organization: Nexus Comunicaciones, S.A. From: Jesus Rodriguez To: Nik Clayton Subject: RE: Timetable for doc/ repository changes Cc: wosch@FreeBSD.ORG, jdp@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 12-Jul-99 Nik Clayton wrote: > Announce a tentative all-clear. Get others to test nik > the changes (Japanese team? Spanish team?) Yes, no problem... after these changes, i'll commit (but not inlude on builds by the moment) the first version of Spanish Handbook. JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 14 15:29:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8E1015514 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:29:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.2) id WAA68117 for doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 22:42:26 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 22:42:25 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: New info about translations / example of DocBook FAQ markup Message-ID: <19990714224224.C65435@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Folks, Give it 24 hours or so for the web site to update, and there will be a new chapter in the FDP Primer (.../tutorials/docproj-primer/) which is a FAQ explaining how to start translating the FreeBSD documentation. Comments from the various members of the documentation team would be appreciated. In addition, if you look at the source, which is at doc/en/tutorials/docproj-primer/translations/chapter.sgml in the CVS tree, you'll see a reasonable example of how you should use DocBook to mark up a FAQ. The FAQ team might want to take a look at this to get ideas for how the FAQ itself will be converted from LinuxDoc to DocBook. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 14 15:29:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7468E15547 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:29:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.2) id UAA47727; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:00:18 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:00:15 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: "Alexey M. Zelkin" Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Id Message-ID: <19990714200015.A47531@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199906181209.QAA03348@scorpion.crimea.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199906181209.QAA03348@scorpion.crimea.ua>; from Alexey M. Zelkin on Fri, Jun 18, 1999 at 04:09:18PM +0400 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jun 18, 1999 at 04:09:18PM +0400, Alexey M. Zelkin wrote: > I am going with Russian MAN Translation Project and found that > a lot of man pages in main source tree (like some gzip staff) > not have cvs $Id$. Is it possible to add that ? It's should > be very helpful in future updates synchronization. Done. I've updated pretty much everything except programs in contrib/ (which includes gzip, unfortunately). We try not to make changes like that to third party contributed source code, as it increases the amount of effort required to merge the changes back in when we update them. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 14 15:30:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B933B15559 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:29:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.2) id WAA66754; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 22:32:22 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 22:32:21 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: John Baldwin Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: General reccommendatiions re: LinuxDoc.. Message-ID: <19990714223221.B65435@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <199907132318.TAA28366@smtp3.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199907132318.TAA28366@smtp3.erols.com>; from John Baldwin on Tue, Jul 13, 1999 at 07:18:58PM -0400 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jul 13, 1999 at 07:18:58PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > Does anyone have any generic suggestions/rules etc. for marking up text in > LinuxDoc (e.g. when adding FAQ entries). Not that I know of. It's basically a case of following whatever style is in use around the area you're editing. I haven't written anything about it because (1) I don't actually know LinuxDoc, and (2) it's going to die a horrible flaming death just as soon as possible. That said, if you want to write something up, I'm happy to include it in the primer -- there's already an empty chapter waiting for it, and it'd be good if you followed the style of the DocBook and HTML chapters. > Also, I was going to submit a FAQ for installing splash screens as well as > where to find them, mostly pulling from my splash screens gallery page. > Should that go in Section 2: Installation or Section 9: X and Virtual > Consoles? I'd say 9. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 14 15:34:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 085361571A for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:34:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.2) id WAA65815; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 22:24:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 22:24:44 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Jun Kuriyama Cc: Nik Clayton , John Polstra , doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-translate@ngo.org.uk Subject: Re: Resolution: FDP reorganisation Message-ID: <19990714222443.A65435@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990628212827.C5662@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990705234732.R71138@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <3788952C.8F8C593D@sky.rim.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <3788952C.8F8C593D@sky.rim.or.jp>; from Jun Kuriyama on Sun, Jul 11, 1999 at 09:59:24PM +0900 Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jul 11, 1999 at 09:59:24PM +0900, Jun Kuriyama wrote: > > In the repository copy we're not changing the content of the manual pages. > > So the tags that indicate which revisions of the file correspond with the > > revision of the file at the English release number should stay the same. > > Does that means your plan is based on "repository copy", not on > "importing new files"? The original plan was repository copy. Then John said this was too much work, so I said we'd repository copy the English docs, and re-import everything else. Then you guys said "No, we need the histories", and I wrote the script that does most of the repository copy work for us, so now, yes, I think we're repository copying :-) > This works well old and -current environment for translation. Does your > plan include these works? Yeah. See the script I posted. Incidentally, and on a complete tangent -- I don't suppose any of the Japanese team are planning on going to the FreeBSD Con this year are they? It'd be great to put faces to names. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 14 15:37:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2047D15465; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:37:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA91252; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:37:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:37:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199907142237.PAA91252@freefall.freebsd.org> To: adrian@ubergeeks.com, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12377: differences of a NULL login class need amplification Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: differences of a NULL login class need amplification State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Wed Jul 14 15:36:21 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed text to the man page and login.conf to make this clearer. Not the submitter's text, but a rewrite thereof. Thanks for the report. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 14 15:55: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from campus.sal.itesm.mx (campus.sal.itesm.mx [200.34.106.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C951814DE5 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:54:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from esanchez@academ.sal.itesm.mx) Received: from academ.sal.itesm.mx ([200.34.106.155]) by campus.sal.itesm.mx (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA19430 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:02:17 -0500 Message-ID: <378D12DF.EFFDBC22@academ.sal.itesm.mx> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 17:44:47 -0500 From: El KiKe X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [es] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: About freeBSD 3.1 + Xircom Card Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org sorry to bother you .... I have looked around and I cannot find who I can make my Xircom 10/100 56K modem credit card work, I have an IBM laptop and I'm trying to make it work, no use .... I read your faq, and tutorials, looked around and I couldn't find anything, if there is a document I would be gratefull if you would point me to it, or if you could tell me how to get it working it would be great ... I got freeBSd 3.1 ..... El KiKe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 14 16:49:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from fellspt.charm.net (fellspt.charm.net [199.0.70.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4DF414D9E for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:49:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dutch@charm.net) Received: from charm.net (coretel-116-026.charm.net [209.143.116.26]) by fellspt.charm.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA22596 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 19:48:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <378D21A5.BBC54DE0@charm.net> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 19:47:49 -0400 From: Dutch Collins X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bsd-doc Subject: Any useful info:4.4BSD-Lite Doc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have tripped over an original set of BSD manuals, all 6 books + CD. The question. Should I use these manuals as a historical reference? Or, is there useful information in the books that FreeBSD Documents can benefit from? In DocBook of course. -dutch -- +------------------------------------------------------+ | Dutch's Voice Line: 410.922.5805 | +------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Jul 14 21: 0: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38751154C0 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 21:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id VAA19628; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 21:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id C89B1154B1; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:59:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <19990715035906.C89B1154B1@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:59:06 -0700 (PDT) From: jobaldwi@vt.edu To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/12644: [PATCH] New FAQ entry: "How do I install splash screens and where?" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 12644 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] New FAQ entry: "How do I install splash screens and where?" >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Jul 14 21:00:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: John Baldwin >Release: n/a >Organization: >Environment: n/a >Description: A patch that contains a new FAQ entry for the X and syscons section that covers installation of splash screens, as well as a URL to find them at. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: x.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvs/doc/FAQ/x.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -u -r1.8 x.sgml --- x.sgml 1999/04/10 00:03:58 1.8 +++ x.sgml 1999/07/15 03:20:51 @@ -368,5 +368,91 @@

    Run the command + + + How do I install a splash screen and where do I find them? + + +

    Just prior to the release of FreeBSD 3.1, a new feature was + added to allow the display of "splash" screens during + the boot messages. The splash screens currently must be a 256 + color bitmap (*.BMP) or ZSoft PCX + (*.PCX) file. In addition, they must have a + resolution of 320x200 or less to work on standard VGA adapters. + If you compile VESA support into your kernel, then you can use + larger bitmaps up to 1024x768. Note that VESA support requires + the VM86 kernel option to be compiled into the + kernel. The actual VESA support can either be compiled directly + into the kernel with the VESA kernel config option + or by loading the VESA kld module during bootup.

    + +

    To use a splash screen, you need to modify the startup files + that control the boot process for FreeBSD. The files for this + changed prior to the release of FreeBSD 3.2, so there are now + two ways of loading a splash screen: + + + FreeBSD 3.1 + +

    The first step is to find a bitmap version of your splash + screen. Release 3.1 only supports Windows bitmap splash + screens. Once you've found your splash screen of choice + copy it to /boot/splash.bmp. Next, you need to + have a /boot/loader.rc file that contains the + following lines: + + + load kernel + load -t splash_image_data /boot/splash.bmp + load splash_bmp + autoboot + + + + FreeBSD 3.2+ + +

    In addition to adding support for PCX splash screens, + FreeBSD 3.2 includes a nicer way of configuring the boot + process. If you wish, you can use the method listed above + for FreeBSD 3.1. If you do and you want to use PCX, replace + splash_bmp with splash_pcx. If, + on the other hand, you want to use the newer boot + configuration, you need to create a + /boot/loader.rc file that contains the + following lines: + + + include /boot/loader.4th + start + + +

    and a /boot/loader.conf that contains the + following: + + + splash_bmp_load="YES" + bitmap_load="YES" + + +

    This assumes you are using /boot/splash.bmp + for your splash screen. If you'd rather use a PCX file, + copy it to /boot/splash.pcx, create a + /boot/loader.rc as instructed above, and + create a /boot/loader.conf that contains: + + + splash_pcx_load="YES" + bitmap_load="YES" + bitmap_name="/boot/splash.pcx" + + + + +

    Now all you need is a splash screen. For that you can surf + on over to the gallery at .

    + +     >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jul 15 7: 2:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A378A150DE for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 07:02:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA82382; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 07:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from leap.innerx.net (leap.innerx.net [38.179.176.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A7D14E6D for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 06:57:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (ip32.houston3.tx.pub-ip.psi.net [38.12.169.32]) by leap.innerx.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B29CB37078 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:56:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA05920; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 08:57:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris) Message-Id: <199907151357.IAA05920@holly.dyndns.org> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 08:57:55 -0500 (CDT) From: chris@calldei.com Reply-To: chris@calldei.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/12652: [Patch] scsi.4 refers to old kernel config syntax Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 12652 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [Patch] scsi.4 refers to old kernel config syntax >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Jul 15 07:00:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Chris Costello >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: none >Environment: scsi.4: $Id: scsi.4,v 1.12 1998/10/16 04:28:39 ken Exp $ >Description: The manual page for scsi(4) refers to the old kernel config syntax which involves quotes. This patch only applies to -CURRENT at this point. >How-To-Repeat: man 4 scsi >Fix: --- /usr/src/share/man/man4/scsi.4 Thu Oct 15 23:28:39 1998 +++ scsi.4 Thu Jul 15 08:53:16 1999 @@ -44,11 +44,11 @@ .Cd "device sa0" .Cd "device ch1 at scbus0 target 4 unit 0" .Cd options CAMDEBUG -.Cd options "CAM_DEBUG_BUS=-1" -.Cd options "CAM_DEBUG_TARGET=-1" -.Cd options "CAM_DEBUG_LUN=-1" -.Cd options "CAM_DEBUG_FLAGS=CAM_DEBUG_INFO|CAM_DEBUG_CDB" -.Cd options "CAM_MAX_HIGHPOWER=4" +.Cd options CAM_DEBUG_BUS=-1 +.Cd options CAM_DEBUG_TARGET=-1 +.Cd options CAM_DEBUG_LUN=-1 +.Cd options CAM_DEBUG_FLAGS=CAM_DEBUG_INFO|CAM_DEBUG_CDB +.Cd options CAM_MAX_HIGHPOWER=4 .Cd options SCSI_NO_SENSE_STRINGS .Cd options SCSI_NO_OP_STRINGS .Cd options SCSI_DELAY=8000 >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jul 15 9:11:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from firewall2.lehman.com (firewall.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E369F15585 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:11:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nclayton@lehman.com) Received: from relay3.messaging-svcs5.lehman.com by firewall2.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id MAA23168; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 12:10:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990715171021.K2353@lehman.com> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:10:21 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: "Nawfal M.Rouyan" , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: volunteer to translate doc to malay References: <19990619084128.79456.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19990619084128.79456.qmail@hotmail.com>; from Nawfal M.Rouyan on Sat, Jun 19, 1999 at 04:41:24PM +0000 Organization: Lehman Brothers Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jun 19, 1999 at 04:41:24PM +0000, Nawfal M.Rouyan wrote: > I'm from Malaysia and currently studying in University Multimedia Telekom > Malaysia. Since I'm in the second year of study and has plenty of free time, > I and my friends would like to volunteer to translate the docs to malay > language. That's great, and thanks very much for volunteering. I can only apologise for the amount of time it's taken me to reply to you. > Kindly tell me what I have to do. This is one of the way me and my > friends would very much like to do to help our favourite OS. Can you (and your friends) read http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/docproj-primer/translations.html and let me know if that answers your questions, and allows you to get started. If you've got any other questions after reading that, please don't hesitate to get in touch. N -- --+==[ Systems Administrator, Year 2000 Test Lab, Lehman Brothers, Inc. ]==+-- --+==[ 1 Broadgate, London, EC2M 7HA 0171-601-0011 x5514 ]==+-- --+==[ Year 2000 Testing: It's about time. . . ]==+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jul 15 20:21: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A531414F02 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 20:20:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id UAA59487; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 20:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 6F93B14C03; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 20:15:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <19990716031528.6F93B14C03@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 20:15:28 -0700 (PDT) From: jobaldwi@vt.edu To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/12657: Handbook on ftp mirrors is old... Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 12657 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Handbook on ftp mirrors is old... >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Jul 15 20:20:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: John Baldwin >Release: n/a >Organization: >Environment: n/a >Description: The version of the handbook and FAQ that are available for download on the ftp mirrors are old. The FAQ is 6 months old, and the handbook is 3 months old. 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    = ------=_NextPart_000_0099_01BECFA5.C9F23600-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 16 2:15:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from firewall1.lehman.com (firewall1.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B8014E89 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 02:15:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nclayton@lehman.com) Received: from relay3.messaging-svcs5.lehman.com by firewall1.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id FAA17419; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 05:13:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990716101257.M2353@lehman.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:12:57 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: El KiKe , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: About freeBSD 3.1 + Xircom Card References: <378D12DF.EFFDBC22@academ.sal.itesm.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <378D12DF.EFFDBC22@academ.sal.itesm.mx>; from El KiKe on Wed, Jul 14, 1999 at 05:44:47PM -0500 Organization: Lehman Brothers Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jul 14, 1999 at 05:44:47PM -0500, El KiKe wrote: > sorry to bother you .... I have looked around and I cannot find who I > can make my Xircom 10/100 56K modem credit card work, I have an IBM > laptop and I'm trying to make it work, no use .... I read your faq, and > tutorials, looked around and I couldn't find anything, if there is a > document I would be gratefull if you would point me to it, or if you > could tell me how to get it working it would be great ... > > I got freeBSd 3.1 ..... I haven't got one myself, but the various links at http://www.jp.FreeBSD.org/PAO/ should help. Also, the member of the mobile@FreeBSD.org mailing list might be able to assist you. Hope that helps. N -- --+==[ Systems Administrator, Year 2000 Test Lab, Lehman Brothers, Inc. ]==+-- --+==[ 1 Broadgate, London, EC2M 7HA 0171-601-0011 x5514 ]==+-- --+==[ Year 2000 Testing: It's about time. . . ]==+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 16 7:29: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from firewall1.lehman.com (firewall1.Lehman.COM [192.147.65.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2593614E3D for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 07:29:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nclayton@lehman.com) Received: from relay3.messaging-svcs5.lehman.com by firewall1.lehman.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id KAA02424; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:26:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990716152531.T2353@lehman.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:25:31 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: chris@calldei.com, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docproj/current.html, 'Rewrite cvsweb.cgi' -- Why? References: <19990607203117.M57174@holly.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19990607203117.M57174@holly.dyndns.org>; from Chris Costello on Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 08:31:17PM -0500 Organization: Lehman Brothers Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chris, On Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 08:31:17PM -0500, Chris Costello wrote: > I've found an RCS module (under cpan as 'Rcs') and am > considering rewriting the cvsweb script with it. But I don't > understand one thing: What's wrong with the existing script? Good question. I think Wolfram was the one that originally suggested this, and he hasn't replied yet. I don't know what he had in mind. However, here are some suggestions based on seeing over Web/CVS implementations on other projects. KDE has a nice interface. A bit too colourful for my tastes, but from a directory listing you can jump straight to the latest revision of a file (which ours doesn't do). It also shows the last person to work on the file, and a few sentances from the last log entry. Also, the "Jump directly to latest revision" option is useful. Once you're viewing the log for a particular file, you can also choose to see an "annotated" version, which has change bars showing the version and committer that committed each change. It's certainly nice, but I don't know how useful people would find it. You can also choose to show only those files that have particular tags on them, which could be useful. KDE's CVSWeb can be seen at http://kdecvs.stud.fh-heilbronn.de/cvsweb/. Given that it's based on our cvsweb.cgi in the first place, it's probably just a drop in replacement (or close to). I'm taking a brief look at the source code now, and with my JAPH hat on * It doesn't use "-w" or "use strict". * Lots of global variables. * Lots of "print '....';", and not enough "print <; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 07:39:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ganderson@norloff.com) Received: from oed-u1.oed.ida.org (oed-u1.oed.ida.org [129.246.40.34]) by cs.ida.org (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA28593 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:38:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff.com by oed-u1.oed.ida.org (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id KAA15185; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:38:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <378F4421.CB040F21@norloff.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:39:29 -0400 From: "George (Andy) Anderson" Reply-To: ganderson@norloff.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B NIC... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just in case you don't already know, the TX version of the PRO/100B has been discontinued and is no longer generally available (the T4 version is still in production). It has been replaced by the Intel EtherExpress PRO/100+ Adapter, which is also, of course, for the PCI bus. The Intel part number for the new card is PILA8460, and it is driver compatible with the old PRO/100B; the new card works fine with FreeBSD 2.2.8 (which is what I'm currently running). Take care. -- Andy Anderson Annandale, Va, USA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 16 11:19:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pp2.shef.ac.uk (pp2.shef.ac.uk [143.167.1.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BAB8156B3 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:19:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from acp98mk@sheffield.ac.uk) Received: from broadstone.shef.ac.uk ([143.167.23.251]) by pp2.shef.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #5) id 115CZf-0002ok-00 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 19:19:07 +0100 Received: from BROADSTONE/SpoolDir by broadstone.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.44); 16 Jul 99 19:19:08 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by BROADSTONE (Mercury 1.43); 16 Jul 99 19:19:02 +0100 Received: from sheffield.ac.uk (143.167.189.41) by broadstone.shef.ac.uk (Mercury 1.43) with ESMTP; 16 Jul 99 19:18:56 +0100 Message-ID: <378F7762.9AD6767F@sheffield.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 19:18:10 +0100 From: Marilena X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: At commands -SMS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi , I'm trying to run a software program in a Siemens M1 in order to measure the time it takes for SMS messages to be delivered. But when I run it, I face 2 problems: in AT+CMGD command, I get: CSM error: invalid index in the point of software which declares "show PDU", I get: CSM error:1 Could you figure out what is happening? Could you please help me? I'm waiting your response regards Marilena To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 16 12:16:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.korax.net (mail.korax.net [209.82.39.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2DEF14C1B for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:16:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ean@korax.net) Received: from raven.korax.net (ean@raven.korax.net [209.82.39.7]) by mail.korax.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12220 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:15:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:15:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Ean Kingston To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe ean@korax.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 16 16:16:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from venus.GAIANET.NET (venus.GAIANET.NET [207.211.200.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A83014CAE for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:16:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@venus.GAIANET.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by venus.GAIANET.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09642; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:15:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@venus.GAIANET.NET) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:15:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Vincent Poy To: "George (Andy) Anderson" Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B NIC... In-Reply-To: <378F4421.CB040F21@norloff.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, George (Andy) Anderson wrote: Actually, if you want a PRO/100+ Wake-Up PILA8460B, you can call Intel telling them your PRO/100B has problems and they will send you the PRO/100+ Wake-Up PILA8460B as a replacement. I'm still trying to figure out how Intel is doing their model numbers since the older Pro/100B has a higher number PILA8465B. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] > Just in case you don't already know, the TX version of the PRO/100B > has been discontinued and is no longer generally available (the T4 > version is still in production). It has been replaced by the > Intel EtherExpress PRO/100+ Adapter, which is also, of course, for > the PCI bus. The Intel part number for the new card is PILA8460, > and it is driver compatible with the old PRO/100B; the new card > works fine with FreeBSD 2.2.8 (which is what I'm currently running). > > Take care. > > -- > Andy Anderson > Annandale, Va, USA > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 16 21: 9:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from fellspt.charm.net (fellspt.charm.net [199.0.70.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D8C914DD1 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 21:09:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dutch@charm.net) Received: from charm.net (coretel-115-053.charm.net [209.143.115.53]) by fellspt.charm.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA12167; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 00:08:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <379001CD.853CD365@charm.net> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 00:08:45 -0400 From: Dutch Collins X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nick Clayton Cc: bsd-doc Subject: WP8-SGML Update-Comment Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org current time is 23:15 EDT [N.A.] I think I like it - WP8. Here are the highlights. 1) Your document, Handbook DTD Migration, loaded with no errors. Saved to disk with the following validation error messages, and variations of it. Marked Section "" treated as data rather than markup Is this construct defined in the FreeBSD extensions? I'll look but I am not sure I will get the right answer. ]]> 2) When saving my test document WP8 allows all WP supported formats to be used. The .sgml format, when selected, causes validation to start. This is not a problem because, 'save with errors', is an option. Now the good news - saving to a .html from .sgml source produces the correct HTML. So far. 3) Elements are tested for validity as they are entered and any legal attributes are always displayed if desired. A nice interpreter, lots of error checking. If a user does not know anything about what elements belong where the element list helps by only offering legal elements. That makes sense to me. That's it for now. The next step is to generate a complete document and post it as a personal page. Easier than sending fragments by e-mail. Now that I think about it I have some public ftp space - I will put all files there too. - dutch .sig file cut because I am tired of looking at it. Voice: 410.922.5805 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 16 22:51:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0457214D1B for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 22:51:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id WAA23460; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 22:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 508B514D1B; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 22:45:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <19990717054528.508B514D1B@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 22:45:28 -0700 (PDT) From: dcs@freebsd.org To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/12679: splash(4) contains incorrect references Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 12679 >Category: docs >Synopsis: splash(4) contains incorrect references >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Jul 16 22:50:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Daniel C. Sobral >Release: NR >Organization: FreeBSD >Environment: NR >Description: splash(4) refers to the non-existant loader.rc(5) man page, and has an example using the old loader(8) syntax instead of the newer loader.conf(5) file. >How-To-Repeat: man 4 splash >Fix: If I had time to fix it right now, I'd have fixed it instead of open a PR (opening a PR probably is taking more time, minus the fact that I'd have to reboot...). >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jul 17 3:33: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3713214C98 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 03:33:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id DAA40060; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 03:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0721A14C98 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 03:28:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id MAA14792 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 12:28:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id MAA01039; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 12:26:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Message-Id: <199907171026.MAA01039@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 12:26:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Wolfram Schneider Reply-To: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/12684: Correction to your website for ZNYX Corp. Hardware Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 12684 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Correction to your website for ZNYX Corp. Hardware >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Jul 17 03:30:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Wolfram Schneider >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: Message-ID: <00e901becfe6$e707ac20$590a00d1@znyx.com> From: "Jay Cowan" To: Subject: Correction to your website for ZNYX Corp. Hardware Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:57:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E5_01BECFAC.3A906A20" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E5_01BECFAC.3A906A20 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00E6_01BECFAC.3A906A20" ------=_NextPart_001_00E6_01BECFAC.3A906A20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello: =20 Reference your website, could you please correct your search engine = http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html and supporting pages? When I = do a search for ZNYX, I get nothing. But when I search for ZYNX = (incorrect spelling), I get three found articles. Please change the = spelling in these three articles to ZNYX. In the listing of DEC PCI chipset vendors = http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ198.html, could you please change the ZNYX = listing by adding the following (please note the different DEC PCI = chipsets):=20 DEC 21140 (supports FreeBSD 2.2.8):ZX312, ZX314, ZX345, ZX346, ZX348. DEC 21143 (supports FreeBSD 3.1, 3.2): ZX345Q, ZX346Q, ZX348Q, ZX412, = ZX414, ZX442, ZX444, ZX474, ZX478, ZX212, ZX214 (10 Mbps/half-duplex) =20 Also, please add the following FreeBSD support information to your = Hardware Vendors (http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/hardware.html) = webpage for ZNYX Corporation: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D ZNYX Corporation specializes in high-availability, high performance, = single and multi-channel Fast Ethernet adapters for PCI, CompactPCI, and = PCI Mezzanine Connector (PMC). FreeBSD, Linux, QNX, NetWare, OS/2, and = SCO Unix Ware are supported on virtually all products. ZNYX (pronounced = Zee'-nix) also incorporates its RAINlink load balancing/failover = software into drivers for pSOS, Lynx OS, VxWorks, Solaris, and Windows = NT (FreeBSD support this Fall). =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D Thank you. If you have any questions, please contact me. Jay G. Cowan Product Marketing Manager ZNYX Corporation 48501 Warm Springs Blvd., Suite 107 Fremont, CA 94539 (510) 249-0800 x 113 (800) 724-0911 x 113 jay.cowan@znyx.com ------=_NextPart_001_00E6_01BECFAC.3A906A20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Hello:
     
    Reference your website, = could you=20 please correct your search engine http://www.freebsd.org= /search/search.html and=20 supporting pages? When I do a search for ZNYX, I get nothing. But when I = search=20 for ZYNX (incorrect spelling), I get three found articles. Please change = the=20 spelling in these three articles to ZNYX.
     
    In the listing of DEC = PCI chipset=20 vendors http://www.freebsd.org/FA= Q/FAQ198.html,=20 could you please change the ZNYX listing by adding the following (please = note=20 the different DEC PCI chipsets):
    DEC 21140 (supports = FreeBSD=20 2.2.8):ZX312, ZX314, ZX345, ZX346, ZX348.
    DEC 21143 (supports = FreeBSD=20 3.1, 3.2): ZX345Q, ZX346Q, ZX348Q, ZX412, ZX414, ZX442, ZX444, ZX474, = ZX478,=20 ZX212, ZX214 (10 Mbps/half-duplex)
     
    Also, please add the = following=20 FreeBSD support information to your Hardware Vendors (http://www.freeb= sd.org/commercial/hardware.html)=20 webpage for ZNYX Corporation:
    =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
    ZNYX=20 Corporation specializes in high-availability, high performance, = single and=20 multi-channel Fast Ethernet adapters for PCI, CompactPCI, and PCI = Mezzanine=20 Connector (PMC). FreeBSD, Linux, QNX, NetWare, OS/2, and SCO Unix Ware = are=20 supported on virtually all products. ZNYX (pronounced Zee'-nix) also=20 incorporates its RAINlink load balancing/failover software into drivers = for=20 pSOS, Lynx OS, VxWorks, Solaris, and Windows NT = (FreeBSD support this = Fall).
    =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
    Thank you. If you have = any=20 questions, please contact me.
     
    Jay G. Cowan
    Product = Marketing=20 Manager
    ZNYX Corporation
    48501 Warm Springs Blvd., Suite = 107
    Fremont,=20 CA 94539
    (510) 249-0800 x 113
    (800) 724-0911 x 113
    jay.cowan@znyx.com    =
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