From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 28 12:39:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx.iki.rssi.ru (mx.iki.rssi.ru [193.232.212.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06344152A8 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:39:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Andrew.Karjagin@tdis.gctc.rssi.ru) Received: from tdis.gctc.rssi.ru (tdis.gctc.rssi.ru [193.232.26.70]) by mx.iki.rssi.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA16928; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 23:42:04 +0300 (MSK) Received: from tdis.gctc.rssi.ru by tdis.gctc.rssi.ru (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA19057; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 23:36:58 +0300 Message-ID: <36D9A8E9.8D2448B6@tdis.gctc.rssi.ru> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 23:36:57 +0300 From: "Andrew A.Karjagin" Organization: Gagarin Cosmonaut Training Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ingrid@cityscope.net, "isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Freebsd/Frontpage Extensions References: <36D828FB.3F57FA75@cityscope.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ingrid Kast Fuller wrote: > My technical staff is having problems getting the Frontpage Extensions > to work on our FreeBSD 2.2.8 server. Is anyone interested in helping? > > If so, please email me directly (not on the list). > > Please send me your programming rate, brief programming background and > time table to get it running. > > As all projects, we needed this yesterday! So we're looking for someone > to help us immediately! Thanks. Try to visit that page: http://www.dvl-software.com/freebsd/fpextensions.htm -- Best wishes Andrew A.Karjagin Gagarin Cosmonaut Training Center, Star Town, Russia http://tdis.gctc.rssi.ru/~richi (only in Russian) Problem with decoding of Cyr letters? Go http://www.mtrros.msk.ru/decode.htm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 28 14:25:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from nw171.netaddress.usa.net (nw171.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E815D1531D for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 14:23:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from techexp@usa.net) Received: (qmail 1550 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Feb 1999 22:23:37 -0000 Message-ID: <19990228222337.1549.qmail@nw171.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.71 by nw171 via web-mailer(M3.0.0.11) on Sun Feb 28 22:23:37 GMT 1999 Date: 28 Feb 99 17:23:37 EST From: E-Mail Admin To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: PC as terminal direct wired via serial port? X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.0.0.11) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Subject: PC as Term direct-wired via Serial Port? Date: Tu, 09 Feb 1999 = From: imgfac@gate.net Organization: = = I have a Digiboard "dumb" 8 port multiport card installed in a FBSD 2.2.8 box, correctly configured and showing all ports, ports test fine for dial out via modem and dial in via modem (all ttydx, cuaax and related /dev files created). Okay. I wanted to direct-connect a 386 PC via a null modem cable (see FBSD Handbook section 14.2.2.1 Cables) connected to the com1 (db-25) PC serial port (at 2400Bd according to the MSD diagnostic Utility) and connected to the third serial port of the digiboard octopus cable (db-25). I am using qmodem 4.6 comm s/w configured as vt100 at 2400Bd 8,n,1, but I cannot get any screen on the PC, not even if I switch term emulation from vt100 to TTY at same baud, etc. In ttys I have the serial line configured thus: ttyd3 "/usr/libexec/getty std.2400" vt100 on secure This port shows up with command: ps -ax in the PID list I have also played around with the term identifier changing it from vt100 to dialup, just to see if it made a difference. It did not. I do not get a login prompt on the pc/term screen. A db-25 line fault tester indicates traffic on the cable from the pc to the unix box but i do not get a login prompt (or did I say that already?) I have read and re-read the various man pgs and hbk and faqs, but Surely I am missing something here. This is a new installation and I am kinda a= new-bee (to FBSD). So folks, what am I missing or should I do to get this exercise home? Please do not suggest a switch to mgetty as I first need to finish with this issue. An e-mail reply would be preferred. thanks, =2Eif. P.S. what da heck is ttyh0? MAKEDEV wont make it but it appears in the man page for ttys under v2.2.8. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 28 15:40:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from enya.clari.net.au (enya.clari.net.au [203.8.14.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A82DB15319 for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 15:40:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danny@enya.clari.net.au) Received: from localhost (danny@localhost) by enya.clari.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA02469; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:39:46 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from danny@enya.clari.net.au) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:39:46 +1100 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: E-Mail Admin Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PC as terminal direct wired via serial port? In-Reply-To: <19990228222337.1549.qmail@nw171.netaddress.usa.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 28 Feb 1999, E-Mail Admin wrote: > 8,n,1, but I cannot get any screen on the PC, not even if I switch term > emulation from vt100 to TTY at same baud, etc. In ttys I have the > serial line configured thus: > > ttyd3 "/usr/libexec/getty std.2400" vt100 on secure ttyd* blocks until CD (carrier detect) is present. Use cuaa3 instead. Cheers, Danny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 28 15:43:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F1E1532A for ; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 15:43:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id RAA25341; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 17:42:50 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19990228174250.T3203@futuresouth.com> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 17:42:50 -0600 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: E-Mail Admin , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PC as terminal direct wired via serial port? References: <19990228222337.1549.qmail@nw171.netaddress.usa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19990228222337.1549.qmail@nw171.netaddress.usa.net>; from E-Mail Admin on Sun, Feb 28, 1999 at 05:23:37PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Feb 28, 1999 at 05:23:37PM -0500, a little birdie told me that E-Mail Admin remarked > Subject: PC as Term direct-wired via Serial Port? > Date: Tu, 09 Feb 1999 > From: imgfac@gate.net > Organization: > > > > I have a Digiboard "dumb" 8 port multiport card installed in a > FBSD 2.2.8 box, correctly configured and showing all ports, ports test > fine for dial out via modem and dial in via modem (all ttydx, cuaax and > related /dev files created). > > Okay. I wanted to direct-connect a 386 PC via a null modem cable (see > FBSD Handbook section 14.2.2.1 Cables) connected to the com1 (db-25) PC > serial port (at 2400Bd according to the MSD diagnostic Utility) and > connected to the third serial port of the digiboard octopus cable > (db-25). I am using qmodem 4.6 comm s/w configured as vt100 at 2400Bd > 8,n,1, but I cannot get any screen on the PC, not even if I switch term > emulation from vt100 to TTY at same baud, etc. In ttys I have the > serial line configured thus: > > ttyd3 "/usr/libexec/getty std.2400" vt100 on secure Try this: cuaa0 "/usr/libexec/getty hw.4800" vt100 on With the following in /etc/gettytab: hw.4800:\ :hw:tc=4800-baud: (I use this on my home systems for my real VT100's (OK, 102's)) --- *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | Matthew Fuller http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd | * fullermd@futuresouth.com fullermd@over-yonder.net * | UNIX Systems Administrator Specializing in FreeBSD | * FutureSouth Communications ISPHelp ISP Consulting * | "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, | * is because I haven't figured out how to light the * | middle yet" | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 1 0:11:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from host07.rwsystems.net (kasie.rwsystems.net [209.197.192.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259961530A for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 00:09:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwyatt@RWSystems.net) Received: from kasie.rwsystems.net([209.197.192.103]) (5322 bytes) by host07.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 02:03:27 -0600 (CST) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Dec-24) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 02:03:25 -0600 (CST) From: James Wyatt To: E-Mail Admin Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: PC as terminal direct wired via serial port? In-Reply-To: <19990228222337.1549.qmail@nw171.netaddress.usa.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 28 Feb 1999, E-Mail Admin wrote: > Okay. I wanted to direct-connect a 386 PC via a null modem cable (see > FBSD Handbook section 14.2.2.1 Cables) connected to the com1 (db-25) PC > serial port (at 2400Bd according to the MSD diagnostic Utility) and > connected to the third serial port of the digiboard octopus cable > (db-25). I am using qmodem 4.6 comm s/w configured as vt100 at 2400Bd > 8,n,1, but I cannot get any screen on the PC, not even if I switch term I like to cut problems in half and see which end still wiggles... 8{) Summary: Before you try logging-in, you might ensure the port is found by the kernel, dmesg should show all sios you think are there, and the wiring is correct. You should have, at least, a decent serial program on each end to test the link. Tool 1: (I know you have a RS-232 tester, but for others) Radio Shack has a *great* "RS-232 Mini-tester" which shows the signals on red/green LEDs. It finds cable and driver setup bugs quickly. You might find it elsewhere, but they have it and it saves hours and hours. Make sure to use a null-modem cable: It has to pass signal ground (7) as well as swap the TD(2)/RD(3) data pins. It should also swap DTR(20)/DCD(8) for port-control and RTS(4)/CTS(5) pins for flow-controll. If port-control doesn't work, cuaa devs (/dev/cuaa3) will work, but tty devs may not (/dev/ttyd3). If flow-control doesn't work, you may lose pieces of data. An inline mini-tester should show *all* LEDs lit - color doesn't matter yet. If it doesn't, you don't have the right cable. You seem to have the right cable. Ensure the port exists and is configured correctly. The generic kernel defaults to sio2 = COM3, IRQ5 and sio3 = COM4, IRQ 9, but leaves them disabled. Make sure the board is jumpered properly and (please!) do not reuse IRQ3 or 4 from COM1 or 2. Does dmesg show the port enabled and with the correct IRQ? Tool 2: If you aren't familiar with the 'cu' command, install the minicom package it will help you work with serial ports. It is easy to configure and generally useful for users at all levels. (nothing personal...) Looks Procomm-esque and allows you to limit users to specific ports. (shell users can't configure the router, no one can attach to 1-wire LAN port or X-10 port, all can use outbound fax modem, etc...) You are ready to talk: Fire-up the comm programs (minicom, hyperterm, etc) on each end and watch which LEDs turn green with which program. If you set them to 2400b, you should see the data (TD/RD) LEDs blink. You may not see chars you type on your screen, but they should still go to the other. If you're easily amused, quickly send a large text file to the other screen and watch the flow-control (RTS/CTS) LEDs blink as it regulates the flow. If the ttys can not talk, try using the cua device (/dev/cuaa3) to see if port-control is broken. If you can't fix the cable, connect DSR, DCD, and DTR together on each end. You may have to connect CTS to RTS on each end, but that will force you to use software flow-control. Please log in: Your example below should work. You said the getty process shows up in 'ps -axuw', so you did the needed 'kill -HUP 1' or reboot after editing /etc/ttys. (fwiw: You're right, FreeBSD getty should be as good as mgetty for this.) Unfortunately, the proces will exist even if it's port does not, but there will a complaint from getty in the /var/log/messages file listing the port. My typos usually show-up here... > ttyd3 "/usr/libexec/getty std.2400" vt100 on secure btw: I would drop the 'secure' if it's not needed, bad habit later if you install remote termnials. If you are going to install terminals some distance from the port or at higher speeds, you should consider an inexpensive line driver. RS-232 degrades into a flakey mess with poor cable placement, distance, speed, etc... Almost anyone is cheaper than BlackBox for these, but they have them. If you have problems in vi or other curses (screen based) programs, here is where the terminal type comes-in. Getty does not care about your terminal type. Myperterm is something like ANSI or vt100, but not quite right. Qmodem's was a pretty good vt100, IIRC. > An e-mail reply would be preferred. Done, though I sent it to the list if anyone else could use the info. (Did I cover anything not in the FAQs?) This is a bit off-topic for freebsd-isp unless you are letting others access via lynx on ttys, though. > P.S. what da heck is ttyh0? MAKEDEV wont make it but it appears in the > man page for ttys under v2.2.8. My guess is that it looks like some kind of remote serial concentrator. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 1 9:58:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from turkey.ispro.net.tr (turkey.ispro.net.tr [195.174.18.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14EB21522E; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 09:56:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from localhost (yurtesen@localhost) by turkey.ispro.net.tr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA20074; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 19:55:21 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) X-Authentication-Warning: turkey.ispro.net.tr: yurtesen owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 19:55:20 +0200 (EET) From: Evren Yurtesen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: !!!URGENT DNS PROBLEM!!! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am using 3.1R as my primary dns server and I have a bizarre problem here!!! some of my domains are not working! for ex. fatih.net and voltelektrik.com my old domains are working (I believe that these were working too I just do not know when they started to not to work) I have many domains for ex. orucoglu.com and ispro.net and they are working just fine! my name servers are 195.174.18.1 and 195.174.18.2 what should I do??? this is very urgent situation... if you know any other mailing list please let me know sorry for sending this email to 2 mailing lists at the same time. Evren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 1 10: 1:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (mta.xtra.co.nz [203.96.92.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35F1153CE for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:01:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker ([210.55.210.55]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990301180224.KHBB3226200.mta2-rme@wocker>; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 07:02:24 +1300 From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: Evren Yurtesen Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 07:01:12 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: !!!URGENT DNS PROBLEM!!! Reply-To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <19990301180224.KHBB3226200.mta2-rme@wocker> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1 Mar 99, at 19:55, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > what should I do??? Well, for starters, you should tell us what the DNS problem is. -- Dan Langille The FreeBSD Diary http://www.FreeBSDDiary.com/freebsd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 1 10: 8: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from finland.ispro.net.tr (finland.ispro.net.tr [195.174.18.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFDFD154BE for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:06:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from localhost (yurtesen@localhost) by finland.ispro.net.tr (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA31776; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 20:06:25 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 20:06:25 +0200 (EET) From: Evren Yurtesen X-Sender: yurtesen@localhost To: Dan Langille Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: !!!URGENT DNS PROBLEM!!! In-Reply-To: <19990301180224.KHBB3226200.mta2-rme@wocker> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org what kind of information do you need exactly? well some of the domains I host are working... and some of them are not working... (I have set all with the same way) it is impossible that I would have a problem with some of them because I was copying one file to another and then changing some parts in it and using it for new dns record... I do not know the source of the problem which is very bad! examples of domain names hosted in our servers; the first 2 are working just fine! the last 2 are not working? orucoglu.com ispro.net fatih.net voltelektrik.com On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, Dan Langille wrote: > On 1 Mar 99, at 19:55, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > > > what should I do??? > > Well, for starters, you should tell us what the DNS problem is. > > -- > Dan Langille > The FreeBSD Diary > http://www.FreeBSDDiary.com/freebsd > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 1 10: 9:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (mta.xtra.co.nz [203.96.92.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A4115620 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:09:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker ([210.55.210.55]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990301180919.XYMF682101.mta1-rme@wocker>; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 07:09:19 +1300 From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: Evren Yurtesen Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 07:08:50 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: !!!URGENT DNS PROBLEM!!! Reply-To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <19990301180224.KHBB3226200.mta2-rme@wocker> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <19990301180919.XYMF682101.mta1-rme@wocker> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1 Mar 99, at 20:06, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > what kind of information do you need exactly? The symptoms would help for a start. What happens when you do an nslookup fatih.net or nslookup voltelektrik.com? -- Dan Langille The FreeBSD Diary http://www.FreeBSDDiary.com/freebsd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 1 10:11:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 522CF15558 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:10:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA14810; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 18:09:48 GMT Message-ID: <36DAD7EC.FAB3DB82@tdx.co.uk> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 18:09:48 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX - The Digital eXchange X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Evren Yurtesen Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: !!!URGENT DNS PROBLEM!!! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Evren Yurtesen wrote: re: fatih.net and voltelektrik.com not working... > what should I do??? > this is very urgent situation... > if you know any other mailing list please let me know OK, 1. Don't Crosspost - it annoys people (I don't exactly like it myself)... 2. Both those domains are marked down as "On Hold", I'm guessing they're no longer in the root DNS... The servers allocated to those domains do know the details for both of them, but if their not in the root (as they're on hold) - then there not going to work... 3. I know your desperate, but this has very little to do with FreeBSD :-) To sort out why they're on hold you'll have to speak to your ISP / Internic... Regards, Karl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 1 10:14: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from finland.ispro.net.tr (finland.ispro.net.tr [195.174.18.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3718315476 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:13:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from localhost (yurtesen@localhost) by finland.ispro.net.tr (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA33343; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 20:13:35 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 20:13:35 +0200 (EET) From: Evren Yurtesen X-Sender: yurtesen@localhost To: Dan Langille Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: !!!URGENT DNS PROBLEM!!! In-Reply-To: <19990301180919.XYMF682101.mta1-rme@wocker> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org well you can check it by yourself too... you can get into nslookup and set the server to my dns server with command server 195.174.18.1 then see it by yourself... it is working from my side but other name servers does not recognize those domains... finland:/usr/users/staff/yurtesen>nslookup Default Server: finland.ispro.net.tr Address: 195.174.18.1 > voltelektrik.com Server: finland.ispro.net.tr Address: 195.174.18.1 Name: voltelektrik.com Address: 195.174.18.1 > fatih.net Server: finland.ispro.net.tr Address: 195.174.18.1 Name: fatih.net Address: 195.174.18.1 > On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, Dan Langille wrote: > On 1 Mar 99, at 20:06, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > > > what kind of information do you need exactly? > > The symptoms would help for a start. What happens when you do an nslookup > fatih.net or nslookup voltelektrik.com? > > -- > Dan Langille > The FreeBSD Diary > http://www.FreeBSDDiary.com/freebsd > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 1 10:18:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gator.adeptscience.co.uk (gator.adeptscience.co.uk [193.116.153.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38AF315511 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:17:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from reese@chem.duke.edu) Received: from porthos.ourway.org (async251-9.async.duke.edu [152.3.251.9]) by gator.adeptscience.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA11560; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 18:16:47 GMT (envelope-from reese@chem.duke.edu) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990301181704.00d4dd00@chem.duke.edu> X-Sender: reese@chem.duke.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 13:17:04 -0500 To: Evren Yurtesen From: Charles Reese Subject: Re: !!!URGENT DNS PROBLEM!!! Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Give it a SIGHUP and look in /var/log/messages to see what it says. If you don't get anything usefull you might hit it with a couple SIGUSR1 sigs as that is supposed to cause it to give debugging output. Cheers Charlie Rees At 08:06 PM 3/1/99 +0200, you wrote: >what kind of information do you need exactly? >well some of the domains I host are working... >and some of them are not working... (I have set all with the same way) >it is impossible that I would have a problem with some of them because >I was copying one file to another and then changing some parts in it >and using it for new dns record... > >I do not know the source of the problem which is very bad! > >examples of domain names hosted in our servers; >the first 2 are working just fine! >the last 2 are not working? > >orucoglu.com >ispro.net >fatih.net >voltelektrik.com > > >On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, Dan Langille wrote: > >> On 1 Mar 99, at 19:55, Evren Yurtesen wrote: >> >> > what should I do??? >> >> Well, for starters, you should tell us what the DNS problem is. >> >> -- >> Dan Langille >> The FreeBSD Diary >> http://www.FreeBSDDiary.com/freebsd >> > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > One Unix to Rule them all, One Resolver to Find them, One IP to Name them all, In the Zone that Binds them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 1 10:29: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shemp.palomine.net (shemp.palomine.net [205.198.88.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD9AD153EA for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:28:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjohnson@palomine.net) Received: (qmail 18480 invoked by uid 1000); 1 Mar 1999 18:28:41 -0000 Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:28:41 -0500 From: Chris Johnson To: Evren Yurtesen Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: !!!URGENT DNS PROBLEM!!! Message-ID: <19990301132841.A18459@palomine.net> References: <19990301180224.KHBB3226200.mta2-rme@wocker> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from Evren Yurtesen on Mon, Mar 01, 1999 at 08:06:25PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Mar 01, 1999 at 08:06:25PM +0200, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > what kind of information do you need exactly? > well some of the domains I host are working... > and some of them are not working... (I have set all with the same way) > it is impossible that I would have a problem with some of them because > I was copying one file to another and then changing some parts in it > and using it for new dns record... > > I do not know the source of the problem which is very bad! > > examples of domain names hosted in our servers; > the first 2 are working just fine! > the last 2 are not working? > > orucoglu.com > ispro.net > fatih.net > voltelektrik.com fatih.net and voltelektrik.com are unknown to the root name servers. Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 1 10:34:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (mta.xtra.co.nz [203.96.92.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0982155E3 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:34:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker ([210.55.210.55]) by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990301183510.KKZR3226200.mta2-rme@wocker>; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 07:35:10 +1300 From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: Evren Yurtesen Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 07:33:59 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: !!!URGENT DNS PROBLEM!!! Reply-To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <19990301180919.XYMF682101.mta1-rme@wocker> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <19990301183510.KKZR3226200.mta2-rme@wocker> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1 Mar 99, at 20:13, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > well you can check it by yourself too... > you can get into nslookup > and set the server to my dns server with command > server 195.174.18.1 > then see it by yourself... Actually, no I can't. I don't have access to nslookup at the moment. -- Dan Langille The FreeBSD Diary http://www.FreeBSDDiary.com/freebsd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 1 11:38:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from neptune.kohtz.com (neptune.kohtz.com [204.62.193.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A0CB15394 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 11:38:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@kohtz.com) Received: from christy.kohtz.com (christy.kohtz.com [204.62.193.181]) by neptune.kohtz.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13254 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 12:41:27 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 12:41:27 -0700 (MST) From: Andy Kohtz To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: usernames longer than 8 characters Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello fellow FreeBSD junkies, The new company I have started to work for wants me to convert their existing internet e-mail system to a UNIX (FreeBSD was my choice of course) system running sendmail. Their current e-mail software (please don't laugh) is AIMS, the Apple Internet Mail Server, running on a Macintosh. AIMS supports usernames in excess of 8 characters. My problem is that there are a heck of a lot of people who are using usernames longer than 8 characters in their pop account settings for their e-mail programs. Is there a way I can make FreeBSD (or any UNIX in general) understand usernames longer than 8 characters so the system can remain backwords compatible, or am I going to experience hell when I make this change? If anyone has any suggestions or has faced a similar situation I would greatly appreciate your imput. Thank you in advance. :-) - Andrew Kohtz - akohtz@amug.org - andrew@kohtz.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 1 11:46: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shemp.palomine.net (shemp.palomine.net [205.198.88.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B14515399 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 11:46:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjohnson@palomine.net) Received: (qmail 18930 invoked by uid 1000); 1 Mar 1999 19:45:42 -0000 Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 14:45:42 -0500 From: Chris Johnson To: Andy Kohtz Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: usernames longer than 8 characters Message-ID: <19990301144542.A18916@palomine.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from Andy Kohtz on Mon, Mar 01, 1999 at 12:41:27PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Mar 01, 1999 at 12:41:27PM -0700, Andy Kohtz wrote: > Hello fellow FreeBSD junkies, > > The new company I have started to work for wants me to convert > their existing internet e-mail system to a UNIX (FreeBSD was my choice of > course) system running sendmail. Their current e-mail software (please > don't laugh) is AIMS, the Apple Internet Mail Server, running on a > Macintosh. AIMS supports usernames in excess of 8 characters. > > My problem is that there are a heck of a lot of people who are > using usernames longer than 8 characters in their pop account settings for > their e-mail programs. > > Is there a way I can make FreeBSD (or any UNIX in general) > understand usernames longer than 8 characters so the system can remain > backwords compatible, or am I going to experience hell when I make this > change? What version of FreeBSD are you using? FreeBSD 3.1 supports user names longer (I don't know offhand exactly how long) than eight characters. Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 1 11:52: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from firestorm.exit109.com (firestorm.exit109.com [208.225.64.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A389153ED for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 11:51:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@exit109.com) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by firestorm.exit109.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA27716; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 14:50:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 14:50:56 -0500 (EST) From: Chris To: Andy Kohtz Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: usernames longer than 8 characters In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andy- It looks like, on a FreeBSD 3.1-Release box, you can create usernames as long as 16 characters... :) This is such a joy for me, since we had to hack around 2.2.5 source to allow 11 characters :/ what a bitch.. :) -------------------------------- Chris O'Hara Network/Systems Administration ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Atlantic Internet Technologies 628 Shrewsbury Ave. Red Bank, NJ 07701 Web Hosting/Design, Dialup, Co-Location http://www.exit109.com On Mon, 1 Mar 1999, Andy Kohtz wrote: > Hello fellow FreeBSD junkies, > > The new company I have started to work for wants me to convert > their existing internet e-mail system to a UNIX (FreeBSD was my choice of > course) system running sendmail. Their current e-mail software (please > don't laugh) is AIMS, the Apple Internet Mail Server, running on a > Macintosh. AIMS supports usernames in excess of 8 characters. > > My problem is that there are a heck of a lot of people who are > using usernames longer than 8 characters in their pop account settings for > their e-mail programs. > > Is there a way I can make FreeBSD (or any UNIX in general) > understand usernames longer than 8 characters so the system can remain > backwords compatible, or am I going to experience hell when I make this > change? > > If anyone has any suggestions or has faced a similar situation I > would greatly appreciate your imput. > > Thank you in advance. :-) > > - Andrew Kohtz > - akohtz@amug.org > - andrew@kohtz.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 1 11:57:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rainey.blueneptune.com (rainey.blueneptune.com [209.133.45.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA55B153B6; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 11:57:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michael@rainey.blueneptune.com) Received: (from michael@localhost) by rainey.blueneptune.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA13476; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 11:56:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michael) Message-Id: <199903011956.LAA13476@rainey.blueneptune.com> Subject: Re: !!!URGENT DNS PROBLEM!!! In-Reply-To: from Evren Yurtesen at "Mar 1, 99 07:55:20 pm" To: yurtesen@ispro.net.tr (Evren Yurtesen) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 11:56:34 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: michael@blueneptune.com Reply-To: michael@blueneptune.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I am using 3.1R as my primary dns server and I have a bizarre problem > here!!! > some of my domains are not working! for ex. fatih.net and voltelektrik.com > my old domains are working (I believe that these were working too I just > do not know when they started to not to work) InterNIC shows fatih.net and voltelektrik.com as being "on hold". That means they won't show up in the root DNS servers. They were both created on 3-Nov-1998. Perhaps you forgot to pay for the domains? Contact NSI/InterNIC for more information on how to proceed. > I have many domains for ex. orucoglu.com and ispro.net and they are > working just fine! > my name servers are 195.174.18.1 and 195.174.18.2 > > what should I do??? > this is very urgent situation... > if you know any other mailing list please let me know > > sorry for sending this email to 2 mailing lists at the same time. > > Evren > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > -- Michael Bryan michael@blueneptune.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 1 12: 6:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from java.dpcsys.com (java.dpcsys.com [206.16.184.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB2D15399; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 12:06:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@dpcsys.com) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by java.dpcsys.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA04580; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 12:07:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 12:07:15 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Busarow To: Evren Yurtesen Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: !!!URGENT DNS PROBLEM!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 1 Mar 1999, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > I am using 3.1R as my primary dns server and I have a bizarre problem > here!!! > some of my domains are not working! for ex. fatih.net and voltelektrik.com > my old domains are working (I believe that these were working too I just > do not know when they started to not to work) > I have many domains for ex. orucoglu.com and ispro.net and they are > working just fine! > my name servers are 195.174.18.1 and 195.174.18.2 > > what should I do??? > this is very urgent situation... > if you know any other mailing list please let me know Taking your SOA record at face value, you haven't updated the serial number since 5/9/1998. That could be a problem. A bigger problem is that voltelektrik.com is not in the root servers. It is in whois but NSI stopped showing on hold status a while back. Have you payed your bill to Internic? Dan -- Dan Busarow 949 443 4172 Dana Point Communications, Inc. dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 1 12:10: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from neptune.kohtz.com (christy.kohtz.com [204.62.193.181]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 421281536F for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 12:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@kohtz.com) Received: from neptune.kohtz.com (neptune.kohtz.com [204.62.193.108]) by neptune.kohtz.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA13307; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:13:19 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:13:18 -0700 (MST) From: Andy Kohtz To: Chris Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: usernames longer than 8 characters In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 1 Mar 1999, Chris wrote: > Andy- > > It looks like, on a FreeBSD 3.1-Release box, you can create usernames as > long as 16 characters... :) > > This is such a joy for me, since we had to hack around 2.2.5 source to > allow 11 characters :/ what a bitch.. :) > Chris, and everyone, The box will in fact be a 3.1-Release system. I remember hearing about so many of the nightmares that people had to use the hacks to make it allow longer than 8 characters on 2.2.x systems. I didn't even think to look if 3.1 had solved the problem altogether. I guess it just gives me another reason that my favorite OS just got better. :-) Thank you for your responses. - Andrew Kohtz - akohtz@amug.org - andrew@kohtz.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 1 13:29: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.249.195.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465DD154AA for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:28:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paulo@nlink.com.br) Received: from localhost (paulo@localhost) by mirage.nlink.com.br (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA13362 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 18:28:01 -0300 (EST) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 18:28:01 -0300 (EST) From: Paulo Fragoso To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Problems with Trumpet Winsock Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm having problems with my dialin server, after upgrade to FBSD-3.1-RELEASE. My clients using Win95 are ok, but with 3.xx using trumpet don't work. My pppd with kdebug 7 print this results in trumpet conection: Mar 1 17:20:03 xingu /kernel: ppp27: missing UI (0x3), got 0x21 Mar 1 17:20:04 xingu /kernel: ppp27 output:ff03002145000... and in with win95 users: Mar 1 17:19:56 xingu /kernel: ppp27: got 14 bytes Mar 1 17:19:56 xingu /kernel: ff0380210103000a0306c8f9c351 Mar 1 17:19:56 xingu /kernel: ppp27 output: ff0380210203000a0306c8f9c351 It seems with trumpet conections my pppd is not accepting data from trumpet. Are there any solution? We are using trumpet 2.0B and 3.0. Thanks, Paulo. ------ " ... Overall we've found FreeBSD to excel in performace, stability, technical support, and of course price. Two years after discovering FreeBSD, we have yet to find a reason why we switch to anything else" -David Filo, Yahoo! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 1 14:17:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sydney.alpha.net.au (sydney.alpha.net.au [203.31.171.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1B2415510 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 14:17:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from danny@alpha.net.au) Received: from psych (p4-max11.syd.ihug.com.au [206.17.105.196]) by sydney.alpha.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA28384; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 09:23:28 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990302091943.006a6908@pop.alpha.net.au> X-Sender: danny@pop.alpha.net.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 09:19:50 +1100 To: Evren Yurtesen , Dan Langille From: Danny Subject: Re: !!!URGENT DNS PROBLEM!!! Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Heya are u running like a squid proxy or something like that?? Maybe squid has cached ur DNS and you have to reload the dns in squid. Just a thought :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 1 14:40:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tinker.com (troll.tinker.com [204.214.7.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD7D154D3 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 14:39:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from carol@tinker.com) Received: by localhost (8.8.5/8.8.5) Received: by mail.tinker.com via smap (V2.0) id xma017050; Mon Mar 1 16:37:19 1999 Received: by localhost (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08384; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 16:37:39 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <36DB1755.6A468C75@tinker.com> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 16:40:21 -0600 From: Carol Deihl Organization: Shrier and Deihl X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Kohtz Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: usernames longer than 8 characters References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Andy, Andy Kohtz wrote: [snip...] > My problem is that there are a heck of a lot of people who are > using usernames longer than 8 characters in their pop account settings for > their e-mail programs. > > Is there a way I can make FreeBSD (or any UNIX in general) > understand usernames longer than 8 characters so the system can remain > backwords compatible, or am I going to experience hell when I make this > change? > - Andrew Kohtz > - akohtz@amug.org > - andrew@kohtz.com If these folks are *only* getting email (and don't need telnet access), an option that will work with any version of FreeBSD is to use sendmail's virtusertable option. It will let you map usernames of any length to local account names. (That's also how to provide support for virtual domains, but that's another story.) It's described at http://www.sendmail.org under Virtual Domains. If you use virtusertable, you'll probably also want to patch popper to do a similar mapping, so that the users can use their "long" names to pick up mail, instead of their shorter local account names. The (old) patches are at http://www.westnet.com/providers, but they've not been incorporated into the current popper release. I've included below the patches that I recently made for FBSD 2.2.8 based on westnet's patches. My patches use the "hash" database, since that's what the makemap program in the sendmail FBSD port uses. For example, you'd make a file /etc/virtusertable: joe_somebody@mydomain.com joe001 mary_longname@mydomain.com mar001 or whatever to map the long usernames into the local account names. Also make a similar file /etc/virtpop - actually, in simple cases, it can be the same file (make sure you compiled the correct filename into popper). Then you'll need to "hash" the tables, for fast lookup by sendmail and popper: root# /usr/sbin/makemap hash /etc/virtusertable.db < /etc/virtusertable root# /usr/sbin/makemap hash /etc/virtpop < /etc/virtpop Since these popper patches were designed to support virtual domains, they expect the reverse DNS to be properly setup (so it can tell which virtual domain it's servicing). In your case, you just need to ensure that the reverse DNS entry for your mail server reports the same name that users try to connect to, for example pop.mydomain.com. (Alternatively, you could pull that part of the code out of the patches, since you aren't serving multiple domain.) Hope this helps. popper patches follow. Carol -------------------------------- These patches created by Carol Deihl (carol@tinker.com) 1999-02-18. Patches apply against the popper port for FreeBSD 2.2.8, but should work (possibly with minor mods) against other versions. These patches should be applied *after* the normal FBSD port patches. For example, if this file is named vpopper.patch root# make patch root# patch = 199306)) && !defined(__USE_BSD) extern int sys_nerr; ! extern char * sys_errlist[]; #ifndef __linux__ extern char * sys_siglist[]; #endif #endif --- 144,155 ---- extern int errno; #if !(defined(BSD) && (BSD >= 199306)) && !defined(__USE_BSD) extern int sys_nerr; ! extern __const char *__const sys_errlist[]; ! /* extern char * sys_errlist[]; */ #ifndef __linux__ extern char * sys_siglist[]; #endif #endif *************** *** 237,246 **** --- 238,250 ---- daemon program */ char * myhost; /* The name of our host computer */ char * client; /* Canonical name of client computer */ + #ifdef VIRTUAL_SERVER + char * server; /* Canonical name of server */ + #endif /* VIRTUAL_SERVER */ char * ipaddr; /* Dotted-notation format of client IP address */ unsigned short ipport; /* Client port for privileged operations */ char user[MAXUSERNAMELEN]; /* Name of the POP user */ *************** *** 326,335 **** --- 330,340 ---- extern int pop_rset(); extern int pop_send(); extern int pop_stat(); extern int pop_updt(); extern int pop_user(); + extern int pop_virtualh(); extern int pop_xtnd(); extern int pop_xmit(); extern int pop_xmit_recv(); extern int pop_xmit_exec(); extern int pop_xlst(); *** pop_init.c Thu Feb 18 15:52:01 1999 --- pop_init.c Thu Feb 18 15:52:01 1999 *************** *** 134,143 **** --- 134,147 ---- extern char * optarg; int options = 0; int sp = 0; /* Socket pointer */ char * trace_file_name; struct hostent * hp = NULL; + struct sockaddr_in mysock; /* Communication parameters */ + struct hostent * mych; /* Server host information */ + char * myipaddr; /* Save Server IP */ + /* Initialize the POP parameter block */ bzero ((char *)p,(int)sizeof(POP)); /* Initialize maildrop status variables in the POP parameter block */ *************** *** 354,363 **** --- 358,403 ---- _res.options |= RES_DEFNAMES; #endif #endif /* BIND43 */ } + + #ifdef VIRTUAL_SERVER + /* Modified by Carol Deihl (carol@tinker.com) 1999-02-18 for bug fixes */ + + /* Get My current address to see on which virtual address I was listening */ + + len = sizeof(mysock); + if (getsockname(sp,(struct sockaddr *)&mysock,&len) < 0) { + pop_log(p,POP_PRIORITY, + "Unable to obtain My socket and address, err = %d",errno); + exit(1); + } + /* Save the dotted decimal form of the client's IP address + in the POP parameter block */ + myipaddr = (char *)strdup(inet_ntoa(cs.sin_addr)); + + mych = gethostbyaddr((char *) &mysock.sin_addr, sizeof(mysock.sin_addr), AF_INET); + + if (mych == NULL) { + pop_log(p,POP_PRIORITY, + "(v%s) Unable to get canonical name of Server, err = %d", + VERSION, errno); + /* Don't know my name, so just use my ip address */ + p->server = myipaddr; + } + else { + /* Save the cannonical name of the server host in + the POP parameter block */ + /* If your really hung up about the security of your local + DNS servers and don't trust them, then you can either add + in the same mess as is used for clients, or upgrade your + servers... Upgrade your DNS server(s).... + */ + p->server = (char *)strdup(mych->h_name); + } + #endif /* VIRTUAL_SERVER */ /* Create input file stream for TCP/IP communication */ if ((p->input = fdopen(sp,"r")) == NULL){ pop_log(p,POP_PRIORITY, "Unable to open communication stream for input, err = %d",errno); *** pop_user.c Thu Feb 18 15:52:01 1999 --- pop_user.c Thu Feb 18 15:52:01 1999 *************** *** 81,90 **** --- 81,99 ---- # ifdef APOP_ONLY return(pop_auth_fail(p, POP_FAILURE, "You must use APOP authentication to connect to this server")); # endif + #ifdef VIRTUAL_SERVER + /* If virtual Hosting replace virtual user ID with real user ID */ + if(pop_virtualh(p)) { + return(pop_msg(p,POP_FAILURE, + "Virtualization Failure for (%s)", p->user)); + } + #endif /* VIRTUAL_SERVER */ + + # ifdef APOP /* If this call fails then the database is not accessable (doesn't exist?) in which case we can ignore an APOP user trying to access the popper with a cleartext password. *** /dev/null Thu Feb 18 03:30:20 1999 --- pop_virtualh.c Thu Feb 18 15:52:01 1999 *************** *** 0 **** --- 1,123 ---- + /* + ** Modified by Carol Deihl (carol@tinker.com) 1999-02-18 + ** to use Berkeley newdb library, since on FreeBSD + ** the sendmail/makemap uses the "hash" stuff from newdb. + ** Also bug fixes, reformat to read easier. + ** Free Mod, Copyright Abandoned. + ** Distribute Freely. + ** Written by Ryan Mooney (ryan@pcslink.com) to add virtual Host + ** Support to the Qualcomm Popper Daemon on Mon Feb 17 MST 1997 + ** + ** Use at your own risk, no warranty is implied or granted, this + ** code has not been thoroughly tested and may have bugs, it may + ** destroy your entire system, it may contain unsuspected worms and + ** take over all the computers in your company and mail the little + ** green men from outer space your password file. If you are uncomfortable + ** with this write your own damn code, and don't blame me. + ** + ** Loosely based on code included in the other popper files: + ** Copyright (c) 1990 Regents of the University of California. + ** + */ + + + #ifdef VIRTUAL_SERVER + + #ifndef lint + static char copyright[] = "CopyRight Abandoned 1997"; + static char SccsId[] = "DO YOUR SCCS THING HERE!!!!"; + #endif /* not lint */ + + #include + #include + #include + + #if defined(SOLARIS2) || defined(SYSV) || defined(AIX) + # include + #else + # include + #endif + + #if defined(SOLARIS2) || defined(UNIXWARE) || defined(AIX) || defined(PTX) \ + || defined(AUX) || defined(POPSCO) || defined(OSF1) || defined(ULTRIX) + # include + #else + # include + #endif + + #include + + #include + + #include "popper.h" + + int pop_virtualh (p) + POP *p; + { + DB *virt_db; + DBT key, value; + + char orig_user[MAXLINELEN]; /* who user claims to be */ + char virt_user[MAXLINELEN]; /* what orig_user maps to in the virtpop table */ + char *s; + + if ((strlen(p->server) + strlen(p->user)) > MAXLINELEN - 1) { + pop_msg(p,POP_FAILURE, + "Server (%s) + user (%s) bigger than MAX %d", p->user, + p->server, MAXLINELEN - 1); + return(-1); + } + + sprintf(orig_user, "%s@%s", p->user, p->server); + + /* fold to lower case for fetching, since that's makemap's default behavior + when generating the db file + */ + s = orig_user; + while (*s) + *s++ = tolower(*s); + + #ifdef DEBUG + if (p->debug) + pop_log(p, POP_DEBUG, "Attempting to Virtualize (%s)", orig_user); + #endif /* DEBUG */ + + if ( (virt_db = dbopen(VIRTUAL_SERVER, O_RDONLY, 0, DB_HASH, NULL)) != NULL) { + key.size = strlen (key.data = orig_user); + value.size = sizeof(virt_user); + value.data = (void *)virt_user; + + if ( (virt_db->get) (virt_db, &key, &value, 0) == 0) { + #ifdef DEBUG + if (p->debug) + pop_log(p, POP_DEBUG, "User (%s) Virtualized", p->user); + #endif + /* + ** Got a live one, this is the users "real" name on our server + ** Replace the original name and carry on + */ + + bcopy(value.data, p->user, value.size); + p->user[value.size] = 0; + + #ifdef DEBUG + if (p->debug) + pop_log(p, POP_DEBUG, "Virtualized User is (%s)", p->user); + # endif + } + (virt_db->close)(virt_db); + + } + else { + #ifdef DEBUG + if (p->debug) + pop_log(p, POP_DEBUG, "Virtualization DB unopened (%s)", + strerror(errno)); + # endif + } + + return(0); + } /* end pop_virtualh */ + + #endif /* VIRTUAL_SERVER */ + *** INSTALL Thu Feb 18 15:52:01 1999 --- INSTALL Thu Feb 18 16:08:54 1999 *************** *** 23,32 **** --- 23,33 ---- 3. APOP 4. BULLETINS 5. SERVER MODE 6. SHADOW PASSWORDS / ENHANCED SECURITY SYSTEMS. 7. COMPILE TIME MACROS(for other options) + 8. VIRTUAL HOST NOTES DEBUGGING 0.0 BUFFER OVERRUN IN QPOPPER: ------------------------------ *************** *** 499,508 **** --- 500,542 ---- shells. v) GDBM - This value uses the GNU's GDBM library instead of NDBM. + 8.0 VIRTUAL HOST + ---------------- + The Virtual Host support allows you to have support for automatic + translation of e-mail addresses depending on the interface that + they arrive on. + + To enable this feature you need to define where the VIRTUAL_SERVER + db will live: + VIRTUAL_SERVER=\"/etc/virtual.pop\" + + You can then use the sendmail makemap (or other custom ndbm or db compatible + program) to generate translation tables for inbound pop users. + + ie: You have two virtual hosts defined on your server (with different + IP addresses bound to each): + senior.com + junior.com + + You have a user fred@senior.com and a user fred@junior.com, you + create two unix users: + www01 + www02 + + and then setup the translation DB as follows: + fred@senior.com www01 + fred@junior.com www02 + run "makemap -v hash /etc/virt.pop < /etc/virt.pop" or equivelant + and then when a pop request comes in for fred on the senior interface + it will be automatically translated into www01. + + This feature is designed to work with the sendmail virtual domain + hack (http://www.westnet.com/providers/) or the sendmail 8.8.x + virtusertable feature. NOTES: *** Makefile.in Thu Feb 18 16:25:44 1999 --- Makefile.in Thu Feb 18 02:37:40 1999 *************** *** 1,15 **** ! CSRCS = pop_dele.c pop_dropcopy.c \ pop_get_command.c pop_get_subcommand.c pop_init.c \ pop_last.c pop_list.c pop_log.c pop_lower.c \ pop_msg.c pop_parse.c pop_pass.c pop_quit.c \ pop_rset.c pop_send.c pop_stat.c pop_updt.c \ pop_user.c pop_xtnd.c pop_xmit.c popper.c \ pop_bull.c xtnd_xlst.c pop_uidl.c \ pop_rpop.c pop_apop.c pop_auth.c sendto.c ! OBJS = pop_dele.o pop_dropcopy.o \ pop_get_command.o pop_get_subcommand.o pop_init.o \ pop_last.o pop_list.o pop_log.o pop_lower.o \ pop_msg.o pop_parse.o pop_pass.o pop_quit.o \ pop_rset.o pop_send.o pop_stat.o pop_updt.o \ pop_user.o pop_xtnd.o pop_xmit.o popper.o \ --- 1,15 ---- ! CSRCS = pop_virtualh.c pop_dele.c pop_dropcopy.c \ pop_get_command.c pop_get_subcommand.c pop_init.c \ pop_last.c pop_list.c pop_log.c pop_lower.c \ pop_msg.c pop_parse.c pop_pass.c pop_quit.c \ pop_rset.c pop_send.c pop_stat.c pop_updt.c \ pop_user.c pop_xtnd.c pop_xmit.c popper.c \ pop_bull.c xtnd_xlst.c pop_uidl.c \ pop_rpop.c pop_apop.c pop_auth.c sendto.c ! OBJS = pop_virtualh.o pop_dele.o pop_dropcopy.o \ pop_get_command.o pop_get_subcommand.o pop_init.o \ pop_last.o pop_list.o pop_log.o pop_lower.o \ pop_msg.o pop_parse.o pop_pass.o pop_quit.o \ pop_rset.o pop_send.o pop_stat.o pop_updt.o \ pop_user.o pop_xtnd.o pop_xmit.o popper.o \ -- Carol Deihl - carol@tinker.com Shrier and Deihl - Unix Network Admin and Internet Software Development To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 1 14:58:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from neptune.kohtz.com (christy.kohtz.com [204.62.193.181]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC7415433 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 14:58:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@kohtz.com) Received: from neptune.kohtz.com (neptune.kohtz.com [204.62.193.108]) by neptune.kohtz.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA13405; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 16:01:54 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 16:01:53 -0700 (MST) From: Andy Kohtz To: Carol Deihl Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: usernames longer than 8 characters In-Reply-To: <36DB1755.6A468C75@tinker.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Carol, On FreeBSD 3.1-Release, where the system is able to handle up to 16 characters for the username, is qpopper able to use larger than 8 without the pop virtuser patch mentioned below? I actually intend to use the virtusertable for this system. AIMS has so many problems with it, and no real support for virtual hosts. Which brings me to a new question, if I may be so bold. I have only setup sendmail on my second favorite OS, Solaris. Is the 'hash' method any different than the 'dbm' format that I'm used to setting up on Solaris? If so, are there any suggestions or warnings before I dive in? Thanks again! - Andrew Kohtz - akohtz@amug.org - andrew@kohtz.com > If these folks are *only* getting email (and don't need > telnet access), an option that will work with any version of FreeBSD > is to use sendmail's virtusertable option. It will let you > map usernames of any length to local account names. (That's > also how to provide support for virtual domains, but that's > another story.) It's described at http://www.sendmail.org > under Virtual Domains. > > If you use virtusertable, you'll probably also want to > patch popper to do a similar mapping, so that the users > can use their "long" names to pick up mail, instead of their > shorter local account names. The (old) patches > are at http://www.westnet.com/providers, but they've not > been incorporated into the current popper release. I've included > below the patches that I recently made for FBSD 2.2.8 > based on westnet's patches. My patches use the "hash" > database, since that's what the makemap program in the > sendmail FBSD port uses. > > For example, you'd make a file /etc/virtusertable: > joe_somebody@mydomain.com joe001 > mary_longname@mydomain.com mar001 > > or whatever to map the long usernames into the local account > names. Also make a similar file /etc/virtpop - actually, in > simple cases, it can be the same file (make sure you compiled > the correct filename into popper). > > Then you'll need to "hash" the tables, for fast lookup by > sendmail and popper: > root# /usr/sbin/makemap hash /etc/virtusertable.db < /etc/virtusertable > root# /usr/sbin/makemap hash /etc/virtpop < /etc/virtpop > > Since these popper patches were designed to support virtual > domains, they expect the reverse DNS to be properly setup > (so it can tell which virtual domain it's servicing). In your > case, you just need to ensure that the reverse DNS entry > for your mail server reports the same name that users try > to connect to, for example pop.mydomain.com. (Alternatively, > you could pull that part of the code out of the patches, since > you aren't serving multiple domain.) > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 1 15:11:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pcslink.com (pcslink.com [206.43.160.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1FB015497 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 15:10:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ryan@pcslink.com) Received: (from ryan@localhost) by pcslink.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id QAA15735; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 16:10:02 -0700 (MST) From: Ryan Mooney Message-Id: <199903012310.QAA15735@pcslink.com> Subject: Re: usernames longer than 8 characters In-Reply-To: <36DB1755.6A468C75@tinker.com> from Carol Deihl at "Mar 1, 99 04:40:21 pm" To: carol@tinker.com (Carol Deihl) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 16:10:02 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, andrew@kohtz.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > The (old) patches > are at http://www.westnet.com/providers, but they've not > been incorporated into the current popper release. Actually the latest patches there apply to popper 2.52 which is only one rev old, and mostly works cleanly with 2.53 (the current rev), at least as far as I can remember (I may have manually applied one patch?). I haven't made diffs for 2.53 yet :( > Based on patches picked up from www.westnet.com/providers. > This version uses hash instead of dbm for the virt pop table, > since our FreeBSD sendmail makemap program has hash compiled in, > instead of dbm. > Also fixes a sig 11 bug in patch for pop_init.c, if you don't have > your reverse dns set up properly (yet). The latest version there has an additional patch for FBSD that uses lower level newdb library functions. I was having hair pulling problems with gdbm (I must have been doing something wrong, but I sure can't figure out what). I found what appears to be a bug in some versions of the ndbm compatibility part of the gdbm. Basically I reduced the code down to a pretty simple open, insert, fetch. The fetch would consistently core dump. As such I've written an alternate version of the pop_virtualh.c file that uses the "NEWDB" (#include ) version of the dbm library. If anyone with a clue wants to tell me what I did wrong, be my guest :) Also - Carol I don't see what you fixed in pop_init.c, I just did a line by line (the formatting changes hoses diff) and I don't see it, if you would be so kind as to point out exactly whats different from the current version.... Zip me a private mail on this one, thanks. >-=-=-=-=-=-=-<>-=-=-=-=-=-<>-=-=-=-=-=-<>-=-=-=-=-=-<>-=-=-=-=-=-=-< Ryan Mooney Phone (602)265-9188 PCSLink ryan@pcslink.com Internet Services NT is an excellent choice for managers who need to show that they used up their fiscal year budget for hardware/software expenditures. <-=-=-=-=-=-=-><-=-=-=-=-=-><-=-=-=-=-=-><-=-=-=-=-=-><-=-=-=-=-=-=-> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 1 15:20: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pcslink.com (pcslink.com [206.43.160.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 963D5154C9 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 15:19:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ryan@pcslink.com) Received: (from ryan@localhost) by pcslink.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id QAA18818; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 16:19:23 -0700 (MST) From: Ryan Mooney Message-Id: <199903012319.QAA18818@pcslink.com> Subject: Re: usernames longer than 8 characters In-Reply-To: from Andy Kohtz at "Mar 1, 99 04:01:53 pm" To: andrew@kohtz.com (Andy Kohtz) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 16:19:23 -0700 (MST) Cc: carol@tinker.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Carol, > > On FreeBSD 3.1-Release, where the system is able to handle up > to 16 characters for the username, is qpopper able to use larger than 8 > without the pop virtuser patch mentioned below? Risking stepping in on people here :) Yes. In fact I was running a (statically linked) version I compiled on BSDI for about a year that supported long user names (that and my statically linked radiusd saved my butt when I switched from bsdi to fbsd :), of course I had to manually edit the passwd file (vipw) to change those users which sucked. The limitation is in the getpwent() call not the popper daemon. Go to 3.1-RELEASE :) > I actually intend to use the virtusertable for this system. AIMS > has so many problems with it, and no real support for virtual hosts. > Which brings me to a new question, if I may be so bold. I have > only setup sendmail on my second favorite OS, Solaris. Is the 'hash' > method any different than the 'dbm' format that I'm used to setting up on > Solaris? If so, are there any suggestions or warnings before I dive in? Not really, you just call makemap with a different option (hash instead of dbm). Oh and you have to make sure your sendmail.cf file references hash instead of dbm (like: Kvirthost hash /etc/sendmail/virthost or whatever). The M4 macro's allow you to specify the type like: FEATURE(`virtusertable', `hash /etc/virtusertable')dnl (Don't ask me about M4 I currently just edit the .cf file, I'll do M4 at the "next big upgrade"(TM) now that most of the features I need are standard, the rest I'll turn into macro's - but I ain't done it yet :). >-=-=-=-=-=-=-<>-=-=-=-=-=-<>-=-=-=-=-=-<>-=-=-=-=-=-<>-=-=-=-=-=-=-< Ryan Mooney Phone (602)265-9188 PCSLink ryan@pcslink.com Internet Services NT is an excellent choice for managers who need to show that they used up their fiscal year budget for hardware/software expenditures. <-=-=-=-=-=-=-><-=-=-=-=-=-><-=-=-=-=-=-><-=-=-=-=-=-><-=-=-=-=-=-=-> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 1 15:32:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tinker.com (troll.tinker.com [204.214.7.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7DD514C10 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 15:32:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from carol@tinker.com) Received: by localhost (8.8.5/8.8.5) Received: by mail.tinker.com via smap (V2.0) id xma017287; Mon Mar 1 17:30:37 1999 Received: by localhost (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA18324; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 17:31:01 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <36DB23D7.A802ED9A@tinker.com> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 17:33:43 -0600 From: Carol Deihl Organization: Shrier and Deihl X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ryan Mooney Cc: Andy Kohtz , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: usernames longer than 8 characters References: <199903012319.QAA18818@pcslink.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ryan Mooney wrote: > > Is the 'hash' > > method any different than the 'dbm' format that I'm used to setting up on > > Solaris? If so, are there any suggestions or warnings before I dive in? > > Not really, you just call makemap with a different option (hash instead > of dbm). Oh and you have to make sure your sendmail.cf file references > hash instead of dbm (like: Kvirthost hash /etc/sendmail/virthost or > whatever). The M4 macro's allow you to specify the type like: > FEATURE(`virtusertable', `hash /etc/virtusertable')dnl I'm not familiar with the version on Solaris, but there *is* a difference in the various dbm things on FBSD. I forget some of the details, but the original popper patches at westnet used the "old" style, which even have different subroutine names. The "new" style supports several kinds of database formats, hash being one of them. I think the FBSD port of sendmail out-of-the-box has only support for the "new" style, so that's why I changed specifically to the "hash" in my version of the popper patches. The sendmail makemap program didn't seem to understand "-dbm" as an option - although this was based on stuff I did about 3 years ago, and things might have changed since then :-) Ditto on Ryan's other comments, tho. Carol -- Carol Deihl - carol@tinker.com Shrier and Deihl - Unix Network Admin and Internet Software Development To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 1 15:42: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pcslink.com (pcslink.com [206.43.160.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D822F15403 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 15:42:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ryan@pcslink.com) Received: (from ryan@localhost) by pcslink.com (8.8.7/8.6.12) id QAA23197; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 16:41:42 -0700 (MST) From: Ryan Mooney Message-Id: <199903012341.QAA23197@pcslink.com> Subject: Re: usernames longer than 8 characters In-Reply-To: <36DB23D7.A802ED9A@tinker.com> from Carol Deihl at "Mar 1, 99 05:33:43 pm" To: carol@tinker.com (Carol Deihl) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 16:41:42 -0700 (MST) Cc: andrew@kohtz.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yeah the programming is MUCH different, but from a users perspective it just looks like a different command line option. That was essentially my point. I doubt Andrew or most users want to muck with the code unless they have to (some of us are masochists, but... :) The new patches I have are also HASH only, mostly because the dbm code (while supposedly in gdb) core dumped when I tried to use it... In short I was to lazy to DL the gdb source & figure out why. > I'm not familiar with the version on Solaris, but there *is* a > difference > in the various dbm things on FBSD. I forget some of the details, > but the original popper patches at westnet used the "old" style, > which even have different subroutine names. The "new" style supports > several kinds of database formats, hash being one of them. I think > the FBSD port of sendmail out-of-the-box has only support for > the "new" style, so that's why I changed specifically to the "hash" > in my version of the popper patches. The sendmail makemap program > didn't seem to understand "-dbm" as an option - although this was > based on stuff I did about 3 years ago, and things might have > changed since then :-) > > Ditto on Ryan's other comments, tho. > > Carol > -- > Carol Deihl - carol@tinker.com > Shrier and Deihl - Unix Network Admin and Internet Software Development > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-<>-=-=-=-=-=-<>-=-=-=-=-=-<>-=-=-=-=-=-<>-=-=-=-=-=-=-< Ryan Mooney Phone (602)265-9188 PCSLink ryan@pcslink.com Internet Services NT is an excellent choice for managers who need to show that they used up their fiscal year budget for hardware/software expenditures. <-=-=-=-=-=-=-><-=-=-=-=-=-><-=-=-=-=-=-><-=-=-=-=-=-><-=-=-=-=-=-=-> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 1 19:59:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from andromeda. (www.gordon.md.120.26.209.in-addr.arpa [209.26.120.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 15DBD14C2A for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 19:59:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin@wholesalehosting.com) Received: from bob by andromeda. (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA11493; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 23:01:39 -0500 Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 22:34:50 -0500 From: admin To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: 'ON HOLD'? In-Reply-To: <199903011956.LAA13476@rainey.blueneptune.com> References: <199903011956.LAA13476@rainey.blueneptune.com> Reply-To: admin@wholesalehosting.com Message-Id: <36DB5C5A2C6.5F40ADMIN@domains.md> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.24 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 1 Mar 1999 11:56:34 -0800 (PST) michael@blueneptune.com wrote: > InterNIC shows fatih.net and voltelektrik.com as being "on hold". That > means they won't show up in the root DNS servers. They were both created > on 3-Nov-1998. Perhaps you forgot to pay for the domains? Contact > NSI/InterNIC for more information on how to proceed. How is it that you we're able to view the ON HOLD status of these or any domains. Maybe i'm not skilled enough in the ways of the Internic .. but i was under the impression that this feature was removed. ------------------------------ Wholesale Hosting Inc. Po.Box 273 Davidsonville, MD 21035 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 1 22:24:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.tccsweb.com (unknown [207.34.208.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A889514C3C for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 22:24:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brentr@tccsweb.com) Received: from cs60409-a (24.64.73.216.ab.wave.home.com [24.64.73.216]) by shell.tccsweb.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA20085; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 01:46:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from brentr@tccsweb.com) Message-ID: <000601be6474$730a6e80$0100a8c0@cs60409-a.cgmo1.ab.wave.home.com> From: "Brent Rector" To: , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: 'ON HOLD'? Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 23:17:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3007.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3007.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Good Day All... In regards to "on hold" status. You can find the information if you go into the Internic Online payment screen. This will show you the status of the domain as well as amounts owed and for what reason. Brent Rector Admin - tccsweb.com -----Original Message----- From: admin To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Monday, March 01, 1999 10:35 PM Subject: 'ON HOLD'? >On Mon, 1 Mar 1999 11:56:34 -0800 (PST) michael@blueneptune.com wrote: > >> InterNIC shows fatih.net and voltelektrik.com as being "on hold". That >> means they won't show up in the root DNS servers. They were both created >> on 3-Nov-1998. Perhaps you forgot to pay for the domains? Contact >> NSI/InterNIC for more information on how to proceed. > >How is it that you we're able to view the ON HOLD status of these or any >domains. Maybe i'm not skilled enough in the ways of the Internic .. but >i was under the impression that this feature was removed. > >------------------------------ >Wholesale Hosting Inc. >Po.Box 273 >Davidsonville, MD 21035 > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 2 8:43:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rainey.blueneptune.com (rainey.blueneptune.com [209.133.45.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46147154A7 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 08:43:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michael@rainey.blueneptune.com) Received: (from michael@localhost) by rainey.blueneptune.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id IAA00718 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 08:43:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michael) Message-Id: <199903021643.IAA00718@rainey.blueneptune.com> Subject: Re: 'ON HOLD'? In-Reply-To: <36DB5C5A2C6.5F40ADMIN@domains.md> from admin at "Mar 1, 99 10:34:50 pm" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 08:43:02 -0800 (PST) From: michael@blueneptune.com Reply-To: michael@blueneptune.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > InterNIC shows fatih.net and voltelektrik.com as being "on hold". That > > means they won't show up in the root DNS servers. They were both created > > on 3-Nov-1998. Perhaps you forgot to pay for the domains? Contact > > NSI/InterNIC for more information on how to proceed. > > How is it that you we're able to view the ON HOLD status of these or any > domains. Maybe i'm not skilled enough in the ways of the Internic .. but > i was under the impression that this feature was removed. http://www.internic.net/cgi-bin/itts/whois/ NSI appears to have forgotten one of the interfaces into their database, and this one has not been lobotomized... yet. [I originally found out about this from www.tbtf.com.] -- Michael Bryan michael@blueneptune.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 2 13:41:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from the.oneinsane.net (the.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36FBC14D23 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:41:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from insane@the.oneinsane.net) Received: (from insane@localhost) by the.oneinsane.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA21075 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:41:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:41:01 -0800 From: "Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /etc/ftphosts Message-ID: <19990302134101.A20686@the.oneinsane.net> Reply-To: insane@oneinsane.net References: <19990224185057.A12777@the.oneinsane.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <19990224185057.A12777@the.oneinsane.net>; from Ron 'The Insane One' Rosson on Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 06:50:57PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD the.oneinsane.net 2.2.8-STABLE X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-Disclaimer: I am a firm believer in RTFM X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net X-PGP-KEY: http://www.oneinsane.net/~insane/insane-pgp5i.txt X-Uptime: 1:35PM up 17:35, 7 users, load averages: 0.92, 0.87, 0.79 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 06:50:57PM -0800, Ron 'The Insane One' Rosson wrote: > Has anyone noticed that if you setup a virtual ftp server using /etc/ftphosts > that it automatically enables anonymous login to that hosts. Has anyone found > out different.. My problem is that I have a customer that wants ftp.domain.com > with a login and pasword and no anonymous ftp. any ideas would be well > appreciated. > TIA > Ron > More info on this problem: If you set up a virtual ftp for a virtual domain the server automatically assumes that this server is going to be anonymous. If the primary domain for this server does not want to allow anonymous then what do you do. I am not asking for "install proftpd or wu-ftpd". I am just trying to nail this down to see if this is a bug that ships with FreeBSD. From what I can gather it is the same source in 3.1 as it is in 2.2.x. The authentication mechanism happens before the chroot. Some please try this and tell if something seems to be wrong. If it wont work right maybe we should disable this feature in the tree. TIA Ron -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was null and void ------------------------------------------------------------------- Better living through denial To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 3 1:23:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.uk1.vbc.net (ns.uk1.vbc.net [194.207.2.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 193A614E8E for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 01:23:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grant@vbc.net) Received: from gromit (gromit.uk1.vbc.net [194.207.2.6]) by ns.uk1.vbc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA13005 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 09:23:11 GMT (envelope-from grant@vbc.net) Message-ID: <000f01be6557$4c373840$0602cfc2@gromit.uk1.vbc.net> From: "Grant Beckerleg" To: Subject: ECC formatting Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 09:22:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello there, I am trying to get a DPT 3444UW scsi controller to allow me to format my RAID array for ECC - 528bytes per sector instead of 512. The DPT 'Storage Manager' software does not allow the option for ECC formatting. The drives used are IBM Ultrastar 9ES 4.5Gb and both IBM and DPT say they are compatible with the card. I think it is a jumper setting on the hard drive that is required - but neither company has taken the trouble to document this. I have the jumpers set correctly for the scsi bus ID's. Any ideas people? Rgds, Grant Beckerleg VBCnet GB Ltd http://www.vbc.net tel +44 117 929 1316 fax +44 117 927 2015 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 3 1:37:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C9C514EBC for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 01:35:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09347; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 09:35:31 GMT Message-ID: <36DD0263.58D2C566@tdx.co.uk> Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 09:35:31 +0000 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX - The Digital eXchange X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Grant Beckerleg Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ECC formatting References: <000f01be6557$4c373840$0602cfc2@gromit.uk1.vbc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Grant Beckerleg wrote: > > Hello there, > I am trying to get a DPT 3444UW scsi controller to > allow me to format my RAID array for ECC - 528bytes per sector instead > of 512. > > The DPT 'Storage Manager' software does not allow the option for ECC > formatting. The drives used are IBM Ultrastar 9ES 4.5Gb and both IBM > and DPT say they are compatible with the card. > > I think it is a jumper setting on the hard drive that is required - > but neither company has taken the trouble to document this. I have the > jumpers set correctly for the scsi bus ID's. > > Any ideas people? This sounds like it might be a hardware issue? (And has little to do with FreeBSD :-) - Are you sure the drives will do 528 bytes per-sector? - I'd imagine this would have to be done transparently?! - Do you really need this if the drives are in a RAID array anyway? Most (if not all) current drives have their own hardware / transparent ECC code on the drive, which uses things like read-solomon coding to detect and correct errors - and cannot be switched off (AFAIK). I seem to vaguley remember hearing about 528 byte sectors, but I'd have to say in the grand scheme of 'keep it simple', and to ensure any future drives you have to use (to replace failed ones etc.) would be 'off the shelf' compatible, it would figure high on my "nice, but don't do it" list :-) -Kp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 3 1:41:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from verdi.nethelp.no (verdi.nethelp.no [158.36.41.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 61A3C14EE0 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 01:41:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sthaug@nethelp.no) Received: (qmail 9381 invoked by uid 1001); 3 Mar 1999 09:41:24 +0000 (GMT) To: kpielorz@tdx.co.uk Cc: grant@vbc.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ECC formatting From: sthaug@nethelp.no In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 03 Mar 1999 09:35:31 +0000" References: <36DD0263.58D2C566@tdx.co.uk> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.34.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 10:41:24 +0100 Message-ID: <9379.920454084@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > This sounds like it might be a hardware issue? (And has little to do with > FreeBSD :-) - Are you sure the drives will do 528 bytes per-sector? - I'd > imagine this would have to be done transparently?! - Do you really need this > if the drives are in a RAID array anyway? If you want hot-swap capability, you probably need it. > Most (if not all) current drives have their own hardware / transparent ECC > code on the drive, which uses things like read-solomon coding to detect and > correct errors - and cannot be switched off (AFAIK). The point of 528 bytes per sector is to get extra error detection/correction info all the way from the platter to the RAID controller. The hardware ECC on the drive isn't enough to cover electrical noise etc. on the SCSI bus when you're doing hot swap. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 3 2:37:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from arnold.neland.dk (mail.neland.dk [194.255.12.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E0014E9C for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 02:36:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@neland.dk) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by arnold.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA47869 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 11:36:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from root@neland.dk) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 11:36:40 +0100 (CET) From: Leif Neland Reply-To: leif@neland.dk To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Something like MIMEsweep? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does there exist a program which can be plugged into sendmail to scan mail for viruses? I've looked at mimesweep's webpage, but it doesn't seem to plug into a unix-box. leif@neland.dk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 3 9:50:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kerouac.deepwell.com (deepwell.com [209.63.174.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 560B814F53 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 09:50:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@deepwell.com) Received: (qmail 944 invoked from network); 3 Mar 1999 18:24:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO terry) (209.63.175.16) by deepwell.com with SMTP; 3 Mar 1999 18:24:00 -0000 Message-Id: <4.1.19990303094635.0138a800@mail1.dcomm.net> X-Sender: freebsd@mail.deepwell.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 09:47:37 -0800 To: leif@neland.dk From: Deepwell Internet Subject: Re: Something like MIMEsweep? Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In my opinion, scanners that scan mail are crap. They seldom catch any viruses. At 11:36 AM 3/3/99 +0100, you wrote: >Does there exist a program which can be plugged into sendmail to scan mail >for viruses? > >I've looked at mimesweep's webpage, but it doesn't seem to plug into a >unix-box. > >leif@neland.dk > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 3 10:24:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from schafftauchnix.plusline.de (schafftauchnix.plusline.de [194.231.215.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E0B14E72 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 10:24:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from richard@schafftauchnix.plusline.de) Received: (from richard@localhost) by schafftauchnix.plusline.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA11068 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 20:22:35 +0100 Message-Id: <199903031922.UAA11068@schafftauchnix.plusline.de> Subject: TI PCMCIA Controller To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 20:22:35 +0100 (MET) From: Richard Gresek Reply-To: rg@schafftauchnix.plusline.de X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL47 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I am trying to get my 3c589d PCMCIA network card running with FreeBSD 3.0 / 3.1 on my new notebook. The card was already working on my Toshiba notebook. The new notebook has a TI PCMCIA Controller. On this controller FreeBSD finds the 3c589d card. I can also configure the zp0 interface, the switch shows a link on my port but I can not send any data (the IP config is correct). Can the PCMCIA Controller from TI be the problem (I needed a special driver for it when installing Win95). If yes, ist there a solution? Thanks in advance Richard Gresek -- ==================> D P N <======================= =======> Deutsches Provider Network <============== Plus.Line Systemhaus GmbH Tel.: +49 69 7589150 Mainzer Lstr. 224 Fax : +49 69 75891533 D-60327 Frankfurt http://www.plusline.de =======> Deutsches Provider Network <============== ==================> D P N <======================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 3 20:50:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from vic.cioe.com (ns1.cioe.com [204.120.165.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08FBF14CB0 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 20:50:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@vic.cioe.com) Received: (from steve@localhost) by vic.cioe.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA22551 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 23:49:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 23:49:50 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Ames Message-Id: <199903040449.XAA22551@vic.cioe.com> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: PAM & RADIUS Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can anyone provide me with the following bits of info: 1) a sample pam.conf file that works in a manner that allows incoming telnets to be authenticated against a RADIUS server; 2) what attributes the RADIUS server should be sending back to allow a good login. My RADIUS server is saying authentication OK but telnet is saying Login incorrect. Thoughts? I'd like to be able to telnet to the server and have RADIUS authenticate the user and maybe even send back attributes such as UID/GID, shell and home directory... This might be a stretch right now so I'd settle for authentication :) -Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 3 21:52:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ms.lawton.com.cn (unknown [202.109.13.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF0F14D95; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 21:52:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from haifeng@ms.lawton.com.cn) Received: from guo.lawton.com.cn (gateway.lawton.com.cn [202.109.13.22]) by ms.lawton.com.cn (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA23122; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 14:08:47 GMT (envelope-from haifeng@ms.lawton.com.cn) Reply-To: "Haifeng Guo" From: "Haifeng Guo" To: Cc: Subject: Mail server setup Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 13:51:40 +0800 Message-ID: <01be6603$131daec0$0401a8c0@guo.lawton.com.cn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi guy: I have a problem , The e-mail user of our server have over 100000 ,so I want to devide the user into several server and the e-mail addrees keep same (for example: all user have the xxxx@lawton.com.cn ) any suggestion thank a lots To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 3 22:38:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from aniwa.sky (p23-max12.wlg.ihug.co.nz [216.100.145.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9417A14CEA for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 22:38:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) Received: from aniwa.sky (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aniwa.sky (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA02409; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 19:38:00 +1300 (NZDT) Message-Id: <199903040638.TAA02409@aniwa.sky> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Haifeng Guo" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mail server setup In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Mar 1999 13:51:40 +0800." <01be6603$131daec0$0401a8c0@guo.lawton.com.cn> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 19:38:00 +1300 From: Andrew McNaughton Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi guy: > > I have a problem , The e-mail user of our server have over 100000 ,so I want > to devide the user into several server and the e-mail addrees keep same (for > example: all user have the xxxx@lawton.com.cn ) any suggestion thank a lots Firstly, I should say that I don't have experience of mail servers handling that volume. sendmail's virtusertable stuff will split mail out however you tell it to. I'm not sure whether you can set up multiple SMTP servers with the same priority in the MX records. Otherwise you can multiplex your domain name out to multiple IPs. I don't imagine you really want to have to organise 100,000 users into changing their pop server settings. You can probably multiplex your domain name out to multiple machines all connecting via NFS (probably a dedicated mini-network between the servers), and have all of your mail stored on one file system. There was a fairly detailed discussion of a setup like this on freebsd-isp last year. It would be well worth finding that discussion in the archives. Andrew McNaughton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 3 23: 7:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from andromeda. (test.register.md [209.26.120.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E49E214D29 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 23:07:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin@wholesalehosting.com) Received: from bob by andromeda. (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id CAA12386; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 02:09:37 -0500 Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 02:03:40 -0500 From: admin To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Sednmail 8.9.3 'trusted relaying' Reply-To: admin@wholesalehosting.com Message-Id: <36DE304C28A.AF82ADMIN@domains.md> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.24 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Are sendmail clues off topic? Because... I'm looking for a way to allow relaying based on 'from' field in senders outgoing header; which must either macth a username who is activelly sending.. or even just a valid user of the system.. or even just random words in a file if need be... jeez.. it should be this easy. I know virtually nothing about unix, bsd, sendmail.. other than i got this new t3 box (only had it 3 weeks.. and i didnt install all the jazz), I have virtually no unix experience.. but i'm learning. Installing 3.1 on my local box after i click send. ---- Why ---- I want this odd method so that a client on my box can relay from their windows pop mail programs through their business domains which are aliased to their user accounts. I've spent the past week reading - but am still unable to make it work without seriously busting it up. (and that didnt help me either:) My last 8.8.8./8.8.5 setup came with this 'selective' arrangement.. but lost it while upgrading to 8.9.3 Customers: Please be sure to include your account name in the subject line of you email ------------------------------ Wholesale Hosting Inc. Po.Box 273 Davidsonville, MD 21035 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 3 23:29:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bubba.whistle.com (s205m7.whistle.com [207.76.205.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A9314CA3 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 23:29:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from archie@whistle.com) Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id XAA06102; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 23:28:47 -0800 (PST) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199903040728.XAA06102@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: Sednmail 8.9.3 'trusted relaying' In-Reply-To: <36DE304C28A.AF82ADMIN@domains.md> from admin at "Mar 4, 99 02:03:40 am" To: admin@wholesalehosting.com Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 23:28:47 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org admin writes: > Are sendmail clues off topic? > Because... > I'm looking for a way to allow relaying based on 'from' field in > senders outgoing header; which must either macth a username who is One potential problem here is that there is no guaranteed that the 'From: ' header will even be there. It's the client's responsibility to put it there. Maybe that's why sendmail doesn't have specific knobs for it.. ? -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 3 23:44:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from aniwa.sky (p23-max12.wlg.ihug.co.nz [216.100.145.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28BCC14CA3 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 23:44:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) Received: from aniwa.sky (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aniwa.sky (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA03063; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 20:43:16 +1300 (NZDT) Message-Id: <199903040743.UAA03063@aniwa.sky> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Archie Cobbs Cc: admin@wholesalehosting.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sednmail 8.9.3 'trusted relaying' In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Mar 1999 23:28:47 -0800." <199903040728.XAA06102@bubba.whistle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 20:43:16 +1300 From: Andrew McNaughton Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > admin writes: > > Are sendmail clues off topic? > > Because... > > I'm looking for a way to allow relaying based on 'from' field in > > senders outgoing header; which must either macth a username who is > > One potential problem here is that there is no guaranteed that the > 'From: ' header will even be there. It's the client's responsibility > to put it there. Maybe that's why sendmail doesn't have specific > knobs for it.. ? As I read the spec, Sometimes 'Sender' is more appropriate than 'From' anyway. Andrew McNaughton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 4 1:55:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from titan.eclipse.co.uk (titan.eclipse.co.uk [195.188.32.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C7B15056 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 01:54:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk ([195.188.32.31]) by titan.eclipse.co.uk (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id AAAAB1; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 09:54:25 +0000 Message-ID: <36DE58A9.E048B6EA@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 09:55:53 +0000 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew McNaughton Cc: Haifeng Guo , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mail server setup References: <199903040638.TAA02409@aniwa.sky> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I don't imagine you really want to have to organise 100,000 > users into changing their pop server settings. You can > probably multiplex your domain name out to multiple machines > all connecting via NFS (probably a dedicated mini-network > between the servers), and have all of your mail stored on > one file system. You could have a daemon on a cluster of machines (either DNS or NAT-based load balancing) to answer port 110, examine the username to choose a server and proxy off the connection. Aren't NFS mounted mail spools generally a Bad Thing? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 4 1:56:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from titan.eclipse.co.uk (titan.eclipse.co.uk [195.188.32.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C751150B3 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 01:56:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk ([195.188.32.31]) by titan.eclipse.co.uk (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id AAA36AB; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 09:56:06 +0000 Message-ID: <36DE590E.B2691B23@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 09:57:34 +0000 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: admin@wholesalehosting.com Cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Sednmail 8.9.3 'trusted relaying' References: <36DE304C28A.AF82ADMIN@domains.md> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I want this odd method so that a client on my box can relay > from their windows pop mail programs through their business > domains which are aliased to their user accounts. Look for one of the user-must-authenticate-by-POP3-before-relaying hacks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 4 4:34:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from complx.LF.net (complx.LF.net [195.206.130.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D66C1522C for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 04:33:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pi@complx.LF.net) Received: by complx.LF.net (Smail3.2.0.103/complx.LF.net) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services from pi for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG for host hub.FreeBSD.ORG id m10IXJV-000zycC; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 13:33:17 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: Subject: Re: Mail server setup To: stuart@eclipse.net.uk (Stuart Henderson) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 13:33:17 +0100 (CET) From: "Kurt Jaeger" Cc: andrew@squiz.co.nz (Andrew McNaughton), haifeng@ms.lawton.com.cn (Haifeng Guo), freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <36DE58A9.E048B6EA@eclipse.net.uk> from "Stuart Henderson" at Mar 04, 1999 09:55:53 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! > > I don't imagine you really want to have to organise 100,000 > > users into changing their pop server settings. You can > > probably multiplex your domain name out to multiple machines > > all connecting via NFS (probably a dedicated mini-network > > between the servers), and have all of your mail stored on > > one file system. > You could have a daemon on a cluster of machines (either DNS or > NAT-based load balancing) to answer port 110, examine the username to > choose a server and proxy off the connection. Aren't NFS mounted mail > spools generally a Bad Thing? Depends on the setup. Have a look at: http://www.earthlink.net/company/mail_arch.html It describes their e-mail architecture for quite a large user community. -- MfG/Best regards, Kurt Jaeger 21 years to go ! LF.net GmbH pi@LF.net Vor dem Lauch 23 fon +49 711 90074-23 Friedrich-Ebert-Str.1 D-70567 Stuttgart fax +49 711 7289041 40210 Duesseldorf fon +49 211 179253-11 For Redmond: "nuke the site from orbit-- it's the only way to be sure." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 4 4:36: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from titan.eclipse.co.uk (titan.eclipse.co.uk [195.188.32.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F106114FFB for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 04:36:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk ([195.188.32.31]) by titan.eclipse.co.uk (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id AAA625; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 12:35:44 +0000 Message-ID: <36DE7E78.AC69B4A5@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 12:37:12 +0000 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Podolsky , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.Org Subject: Re: Sednmail 8.9.3 'trusted relaying' References: <91ED30E621C0D111B238008048CD06B60B0690@exchange.internal.pir.spb.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Daniel Podolsky wrote: > > Could you please tell me where I can find > information about this hacks? I didn't have the URL handy but thanks to admin@wholesalehosting.com who mailed me back, here it is. > Thank you Stu. for pointing me in > the direction of this information. I'm almost done reading it > and it appears that it will do the job fairly well. Not quite > what i wanted, but seems cool enuff. > http://www.mbnet.mb.ca/howto/dynamic.htm Not quite what you wanted but it does have the benefit of allowing users to 'roam' to other ISPs without having to reconfigure mail server settings and not have to keep a relay open to anyone that knows which domains you are hosting :) I know that the same thing can also be done using qmail, if the information for that has been published there is likely to be a link from www.qmail.org. Best wishes Stuart -- Stuart Henderson Network Engineer, Eclipse Networking Ltd. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 4 4:50:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from titan.eclipse.co.uk (titan.eclipse.co.uk [195.188.32.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C9D14C9A for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 04:50:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk ([195.188.32.31]) by titan.eclipse.co.uk (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id AAAB8F; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 12:49:51 +0000 Message-ID: <36DE81C6.23F98C58@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 12:51:19 +0000 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kurt Jaeger Cc: Andrew McNaughton , Haifeng Guo , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mail server setup References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > It describes their e-mail architecture for quite a large > user community. Yep I have had a printed copy on my desk for the last few months ;) it sounds like they ripped out the locking code and replaced it with something custom. > For Redmond: "nuke the site from orbit-- it's the only way > to be sure." pkg_add -f ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/packages/All/asrpages-0.1.tgz man nuke :-) -- Stuart Henderson Network Engineer, Eclipse Networking Ltd. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 4 5:16:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rbro2.virtserver.com (rbro2.virtserver.com [192.41.21.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30F9114F60 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 05:16:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from angrick@netdirect.net) Received: from fdc7.fdcredit.com ([216.37.30.7]) by rbro2.virtserver.com (8.8.5) id GAA04767; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 06:16:00 -0700 (MST) X-Authentication-Warning: rbro2.virtserver.com: Host [216.37.30.7] claimed to be fdc7.fdcredit.com Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990304130525.00bc6b64@netdirect.net> X-Sender: angrick@netdirect.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 08:05:25 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Andy Angrick Subject: Re: Sednmail 8.9.3 'trusted relaying' Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone know where to find this particular hack? I was looking for something like this. -Andy At 09:57 AM 3/4/99 +0000, you wrote: >> I want this odd method so that a client on my box can relay >> from their windows pop mail programs through their business >> domains which are aliased to their user accounts. > >Look for one of the user-must-authenticate-by-POP3-before-relaying >hacks. > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 4 6:29:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from liberty.bulinfo.net (liberty.bulinfo.net [195.10.36.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3FABF14E85 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 06:29:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from krassi@bulinfo.net) Received: (qmail 83797 invoked from network); 4 Mar 1999 14:28:35 -0000 Received: from liberty.bulinfo.net (HELO bulinfo.net) (195.10.36.71) by liberty.bulinfo.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 1999 14:28:35 -0000 Message-ID: <36DE9892.4448AA18@bulinfo.net> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 16:28:35 +0200 From: Krassimir Slavchev Organization: Bulinfo Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, bg, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Majordomo configuration Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, How confugure Majordomo 1.94.4 to work with qmail. I can't find any solution on www.qmail.org! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 4 6:36:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shemp.palomine.net (shemp.palomine.net [205.198.88.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 609B814F8B for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 06:36:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjohnson@palomine.net) Received: (qmail 6939 invoked by uid 1000); 4 Mar 1999 14:35:45 -0000 Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 09:35:45 -0500 From: Chris Johnson To: Krassimir Slavchev Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Majordomo configuration Message-ID: <19990304093544.A6923@palomine.net> References: <36DE9892.4448AA18@bulinfo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <36DE9892.4448AA18@bulinfo.net>; from Krassimir Slavchev on Thu, Mar 04, 1999 at 04:28:35PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Mar 04, 1999 at 04:28:35PM +0200, Krassimir Slavchev wrote: > Hi all, > > How confugure Majordomo 1.94.4 to work with qmail. > I can't find any solution on www.qmail.org! See the qmail FAQ 4.3. But if you don't already have a big commitment to Majordomo, you'd be better off using ezmlm with the ezmlm-idx patches. ezmlm is available from the same place you got qmail, and the ezmlm-idx patches are here: ftp://ftp.id.wustl.edu/pub/patches/ezmlm-idx-0.32.tar.gz. Also see http://www.ezmlm.org. Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 4 7:40:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from loki.intrepid.net (intrepid.net [204.71.127.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F6A15045; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 07:40:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@loki.intrepid.net) Received: (from mark@localhost) by loki.intrepid.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA15400; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 10:39:44 -0500 Message-ID: <19990304103944.F29262@intrepid.net> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 10:39:44 -0500 From: Mark Conway Wirt To: Haifeng Guo , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mail server setup References: <01be6603$131daec0$0401a8c0@guo.lawton.com.cn> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <01be6603$131daec0$0401a8c0@guo.lawton.com.cn>; from Haifeng Guo on Thu, Mar 04, 1999 at 01:51:40PM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Mar 04, 1999 at 01:51:40PM +0800, Haifeng Guo wrote: > Hi guy: > > I have a problem , The e-mail user of our server have over 100000 ,so I want > to devide the user into several server and the e-mail addrees keep same (for > example: all user have the xxxx@lawton.com.cn ) any suggestion thank a lots Are you delivering to hashed spool files? That make a lot of differnce on a large machine, from what I hear..... --Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 4 7:43: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from loki.intrepid.net (intrepid.net [204.71.127.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27DF51504E for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 07:42:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@loki.intrepid.net) Received: (from mark@localhost) by loki.intrepid.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA16057; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 10:42:23 -0500 Message-ID: <19990304104223.G29262@intrepid.net> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 10:42:23 -0500 From: Mark Conway Wirt To: Stuart Henderson , admin@wholesalehosting.com Cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Sednmail 8.9.3 'trusted relaying' References: <36DE304C28A.AF82ADMIN@domains.md> <36DE590E.B2691B23@eclipse.net.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <36DE590E.B2691B23@eclipse.net.uk>; from Stuart Henderson on Thu, Mar 04, 1999 at 09:57:34AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Mar 04, 1999 at 09:57:34AM +0000, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > I want this odd method so that a client on my box can relay > > from their windows pop mail programs through their business > > domains which are aliased to their user accounts. > > Look for one of the user-must-authenticate-by-POP3-before-relaying > hacks. That's problematical, because some mailers (either IE or netscape for example -- I can't remember which) are set up the opposite; they are hard-wired to send before receiving, and it's alway a problem to tell your customers "no, you can't use your favorite mailer with us." --Mark -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 4 8:36:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from andromeda. (test.register.md [209.26.120.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0A8511505E for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 08:36:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin@wholesalehosting.com) Received: from bob by andromeda. (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA12549; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 11:37:50 -0500 Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 11:34:46 -0500 From: admin To: Stuart Henderson Cc: Daniel Podolsky , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[2]: Sednmail 8.9.3 'trusted relaying' In-Reply-To: <36DE7E78.AC69B4A5@eclipse.net.uk> References: <91ED30E621C0D111B238008048CD06B60B0690@exchange.internal.pir.spb.ru> <36DE7E78.AC69B4A5@eclipse.net.uk> Reply-To: admin@wholesalehosting.com Message-Id: <36DEB626320.81B5ADMIN@domains.md> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.24 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Daniel Podolsky wrote: > > Could you please tell me where I can find > information about this hacks? I didn't have the URL handy but thanks to admin@wholesalehosting.com who mailed me back, here it is. Dynamic Relay Authorization Control http://www.mbnet.mb.ca/howto/dynamic.htm POP Before SMTP http://spam.abuse.net/tools/smPbS.html When you have it working please email me. and give me clues :) I'm not quite ready for this, but i knew it was comming up so asked in advance.. jeees.. on IRC i have to wait a week for a req for instant gratification. thank you for not sending me to dan's damned site. ~praise dan admin@wholesalehosting.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 4 8:47:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E81BD14FFF; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 08:47:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from dbsys (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA26211; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 11:50:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199903041650.LAA26211@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 11:58:57 -0500 To: hackers@freebsd.org From: Dennis Subject: 3.1 benchmarks? Cc: isp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone done any controlled tests between 2.2 and 3.1 systems regarding network performance? Dennis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 4 10:17:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from orcrist.mediacity.com (orcrist.mediacity.com [208.138.36.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8178D150B5 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 10:16:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gsutter@orcrist.mediacity.com) Received: (from gsutter@localhost) by orcrist.mediacity.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA15761; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 10:16:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gsutter) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 10:16:01 -0800 From: Gregory Sutter To: Kurt Jaeger Cc: Stuart Henderson , Andrew McNaughton , Haifeng Guo , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mail server setup Message-ID: <19990304101601.C14855@orcrist.mediacity.com> References: <36DE58A9.E048B6EA@eclipse.net.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from Kurt Jaeger on Thu, Mar 04, 1999 at 01:33:17PM +0100 Organization: Zer0 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Mar 04, 1999 at 01:33:17PM +0100, Kurt Jaeger wrote: > > Have a look at: > > http://www.earthlink.net/company/mail_arch.html > > It describes their e-mail architecture for quite a large user community. This URL has changed to . Enjoy! Greg -- Gregory S. Sutter "I think not," said Descartes... mailto:gsutter@pobox.com and promptly disappeared. http://www.pobox.com/~gsutter/ PGP DSS public key 0x40AE3052 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 4 11:10: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rainey.blueneptune.com (rainey.blueneptune.com [209.133.45.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A442E15097 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 11:09:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michael@rainey.blueneptune.com) Received: (from michael@localhost) by rainey.blueneptune.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA12677; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 11:09:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michael) Message-Id: <199903041909.LAA12677@rainey.blueneptune.com> Subject: Re: Sednmail 8.9.3 'trusted relaying' In-Reply-To: <19990304104223.G29262@intrepid.net> from Mark Conway Wirt at "Mar 4, 99 10:42:23 am" To: mark@intrepid.net (Mark Conway Wirt) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 11:09:01 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: michael@blueneptune.com Reply-To: michael@blueneptune.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > > Look for one of the user-must-authenticate-by-POP3-before-relaying > > hacks. > > That's problematical, because some mailers (either IE or netscape for > example -- I can't remember which) are set up the opposite; they are > hard-wired to send before receiving, and it's alway a problem to tell > your customers "no, you can't use your favorite mailer with us." I believe the mailer which forces a send-before-receive is Outlook Express, although I might be remembering this incorrectly. This issue has been discussed heavily in other areas, including the Usenet group news.admin.net-abuse.email. There are ways to use the POP-Before-SMTP mechanismes even in this case --- there are a number of freeware/shareware utilities out there that can be used to trigger a login to the POP server. Look for one of those (search the NANAE archives if you need to), and then recommend it to customers who have an inflexible email client. It's simple enough for a user to keep it on their desktop and run it before any email sessions, and certainly a -lot- less painful than trying to get them to switch to a different email client. Also, if you tell a customer that the reason they have to do this is because you are trying to crack down on spam abuse, most customers will rally to your cause, even if it means they have to suffer a minor inconvenience. If you want to discuss this further, let's either take this offline into direct email, or take it to a more suitable forum. This has absolutely nothing to do with FreeBSD at this point... -- Michael Bryan michael@blueneptune.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 4 11:21:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gongshow.masterplan.org (masterplan.powersurfr.com [24.108.43.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B20914FB3 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 11:21:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jbg@masterplan.org) Received: from infomat (infomat.precident.com [192.168.4.2]) by gongshow.masterplan.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA20922 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 12:21:03 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jbg@masterplan.org) Message-Id: <199903041921.MAA20922@gongshow.masterplan.org> From: jbg@masterplan.org (Jason George) To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mail server setup Organization: The Master Plan Always Fails... Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 19:22:09 GMT Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This URL is now http://www.earthlink.net/about/papers/mailarch.html >Have a look at: > >http://www.earthlink.net/company/mail_arch.html > >It describes their e-mail architecture for quite a large user community. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 4 11:21:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from heaven.gigo.com (ppp.gigo.com [207.173.132.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D465215065 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 11:21:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfesler@gigo.com) Received: from heaven.gigo.com (heaven.gigo.com [207.173.133.57]) by heaven.gigo.com (Postfix) with SMTP id ADE9E13; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 11:21:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 11:21:06 -0800 (PST) From: To: michael@blueneptune.com Cc: Mark Conway Wirt , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sednmail 8.9.3 'trusted relaying' In-Reply-To: <199903041909.LAA12677@rainey.blueneptune.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I believe the mailer which forces a send-before-receive is Outlook Express, > although I might be remembering this incorrectly. This issue has been There's an option on Outlook/Outlook Express to do authorization before sending. I've had to use it more than once. Can't comment on the other packages, though. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 4 11:41:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hp9000.chc-chimes.com (hp9000.chc-chimes.com [206.67.97.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBBAB150C9 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 11:41:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: from localhost by hp9000.chc-chimes.com with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA200664372; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 14:06:12 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 14:06:12 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Fumerola To: Stuart Henderson Cc: Kurt Jaeger , Andrew McNaughton , Haifeng Guo , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mail server setup In-Reply-To: <36DE81C6.23F98C58@eclipse.net.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Stuart Henderson wrote: > pkg_add -f ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/packages/All/asrpages-0.1.tgz > man nuke Actually (pkg_add -r asrpages) will work just fine. (besides, /pub/packages doesn't even exist!). -r will take all the path guesswork away. - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 4 14: 1: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from namodn.com (namodn.com [207.33.107.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED07315076 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 14:00:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@namodn.com) Received: from namodn.com (namodn.com [207.33.107.203] (may be forged)) by namodn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA13143 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 14:00:46 GMT Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 14:00:46 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: You Have New Mail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am getting a complaint from a shell user that he is getting "You have new mail" messages when he does not in fact have new mail. Nothing seems amiss on the surface; this is the first i've heard of this phenomenon... any pointers? www.ArtWritingMusic.com robert@namodn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 4 14: 4: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gvinpin.grad.kiev.ua (KievglavArhit-UTC-28k8.ukrtel.net [195.5.25.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A3AE14F32 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 14:03:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Ruslan@Shevchenko.Kiev.UA) Received: from Shevchenko.Kiev.UA (kulshedra [10.0.1.99]) by gvinpin.grad.kiev.ua (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA05017; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 00:03:07 +0200 Message-ID: <36DF03A2.C9A15834@Shevchenko.Kiev.UA> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 00:05:22 +0200 From: Ruslan Shevchenko Reply-To: rssh@grad.kiev.ua X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: You Have New Mail References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Robert wrote: > > I am getting a complaint from a shell user that he is getting "You have > new mail" messages when he does not in fact have new mail. > > Nothing seems amiss on the surface; this is the first i've heard of this > phenomenon... any pointers? > Just guess -- are user have fortune in .profile ? > www.ArtWritingMusic.com > robert@namodn.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 4 14:12:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from namodn.com (namodn.com [207.33.107.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7878114F74 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 14:12:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@namodn.com) Received: from namodn.com (namodn.com [207.33.107.203] (may be forged)) by namodn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA13196; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 14:11:55 GMT Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 14:11:55 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert To: rssh@grad.kiev.ua Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: You Have New Mail In-Reply-To: <36DF03A2.C9A15834@Shevchenko.Kiev.UA> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Ruslan Shevchenko wrote: > Just guess -- are user have fortune in .profile ? > Are you suggesting that he's getting the "you have new mail" fortune? ;P He says it happens most often when he's been away from the shell for an extended period of time, like when editing a large file. -rob To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 4 14:19:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from unix.kawartha.com (unix.kawartha.com [204.101.15.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C9115074 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 14:18:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pstewart@kawartha.com) Received: from shell.kawartha.com (shell.kawartha.com [204.101.15.28]) by unix.kawartha.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA28622; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 17:17:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 17:55:31 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Stewart To: Robert Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: You Have New Mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there... we have this happen with all our shell servers because PINE pop's the mail from a remote mail server...:) When the mail is stored locally this works fine....:) Hope that helps.... Paul On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Robert wrote: > > I am getting a complaint from a shell user that he is getting "You have > new mail" messages when he does not in fact have new mail. > > Nothing seems amiss on the surface; this is the first i've heard of this > phenomenon... any pointers? > > > > > > > www.ArtWritingMusic.com > robert@namodn.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 4 14:33:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from namodn.com (namodn.com [207.33.107.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9EEA15102 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 14:33:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@namodn.com) Received: from namodn.com (namodn.com [207.33.107.203] (may be forged)) by namodn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA13269; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 14:32:58 GMT Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 14:32:58 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert To: Paul Stewart Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: You Have New Mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hmm, pine is being used to read the local mail.. but i think he uses a POP client on his workstation, too. Any way i can make pop and the shell work together so new messages are not erroneously detected? (i'm sure he won't take to the idea of not using a graphical client, although i'll suggest it ;) he winced when i gave him the procmail faq (filtering is a neccessity for 'im) Thanks everybody! -rob On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Paul Stewart wrote: > Hi there... we have this happen with all our shell servers because PINE > pop's the mail from a remote mail server...:) When the mail is stored > locally this works fine....:) > > Hope that helps.... > > Paul > > > On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Robert wrote: > > > > > I am getting a complaint from a shell user that he is getting "You have > > new mail" messages when he does not in fact have new mail. > > > > Nothing seems amiss on the surface; this is the first i've heard of this > > phenomenon... any pointers? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.ArtWritingMusic.com > > robert@namodn.com > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 4 15:39:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from x11.nfol.com (ppp214.wzrd.com [206.27.119.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15A3150FD for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 15:37:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@nfol.com) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by x11.nfol.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA33994; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 18:39:17 GMT (envelope-from dan@x11.nfol.com) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 18:39:17 +0000 (GMT) From: Dan Harnett To: admin Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sednmail 8.9.3 'trusted relaying' In-Reply-To: <36DE304C28A.AF82ADMIN@domains.md> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, admin wrote: > I'm looking for a way to allow relaying based on 'from' field in > senders outgoing header; which must either macth a username who is > activelly sending.. or even just a valid user of the system.. or even > just random words in a file if need be... jeez.. it should be this easy. the default /etc/sendmail.cf file that is distributed with freebsd should have this line in it: FR-o /etc/mail/relay-domains what that basically says, is that if the file /etc/mail/relay-domains exists, allow any domain listed in it to use us as a relay. its just a simple list. i.e.: domain1.com domain2.com domain3.com ... another way would be to have these persons use the proper mail relay for their domains. Dan Harnett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 4 16:41:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from users.anet-stl.com (users.anet-stl.com [209.83.128.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98BFB15103 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 16:39:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from doogie@anet-stl.com) Received: from rhea (rhea.accessus.net [207.206.169.52]) by users.anet-stl.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA14447; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 18:39:24 -0600 (CST) From: "Jason Young" To: "Robert" , "Paul Stewart" Cc: Subject: RE: You Have New Mail Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 18:38:40 -0600 Message-ID: <00c201be66a0$83ecfe60$0a01010a@rhea.anet-stl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To my knowledge, the "you have new mail" notification just checks to see if the modification time of the mail spool has changed since it last looked. When the POP daemon messes with the mail spool, it changes the mtime. The best way to deal with that is probably just to shut up the new mail notification feature entirely (dependent on your shell, read the manpage). Jason Young ANET Chief Network Engineer > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Robert > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 1999 8:33 AM > To: Paul Stewart > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: You Have New Mail > > > Hmm, pine is being used to read the local mail.. but i think he uses a POP > client on his workstation, too. > > Any way i can make pop and the shell work together so new messages are not > erroneously detected? (i'm sure he won't take to the idea of not using a > graphical client, although i'll suggest it ;) he winced when i gave him > the procmail faq (filtering is a neccessity for 'im) > > Thanks everybody! > > -rob > > On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Paul Stewart wrote: > > > Hi there... we have this happen with all our shell servers because PINE > > pop's the mail from a remote mail server...:) When the mail is stored > > locally this works fine....:) > > > > Hope that helps.... > > > > Paul > > > > > > On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Robert wrote: > > > > > > > > I am getting a complaint from a shell user that he is getting > "You have > > > new mail" messages when he does not in fact have new mail. > > > > > > Nothing seems amiss on the surface; this is the first i've > heard of this > > > phenomenon... any pointers? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.ArtWritingMusic.com > > > robert@namodn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 4 21:55:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from baloo.cmes.elektra.ru (baloo.cmes.elektra.ru [195.75.36.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B198514F37 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 21:55:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dimka@lvs.cmes.elektra.ru) Received: from dimka (actually baloo.cmes.elektra.ru) by baloo.cmes.elektra.ru with SMTP (PP); Fri, 5 Mar 1999 08:52:26 +0300 From: dimka To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 13:45:45 +0300 Subject: Message-Id: <19990305055538.B198514F37@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org unsubscribe dimka@lvs.cmes.elektra.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 5 3:22:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from aniwa.sky (p12-max12.wlg.ihug.co.nz [216.100.145.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3297C14DDC for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 03:22:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) Received: from aniwa.sky (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aniwa.sky (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA13938; Sat, 6 Mar 1999 00:21:32 +1300 (NZDT) Message-Id: <199903051121.AAA13938@aniwa.sky> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Stuart Henderson Cc: Haifeng Guo , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mail server setup In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Mar 1999 09:55:53 -0000." <36DE58A9.E048B6EA@eclipse.net.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 00:21:31 +1300 From: Andrew McNaughton Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org stuart@eclipse.net.uk said: > > I don't imagine you really want to have to organise 100,000 > > users into changing their pop server settings. You can > > probably multiplex your domain name out to multiple machines > > all connecting via NFS (probably a dedicated mini-network > > between the servers), and have all of your mail stored on > > one file system. > > You could have a daemon on a cluster of machines (either DNS or > NAT-based load balancing) to answer port 110, examine the username to > choose a server and proxy off the connection. Aren't NFS mounted mail > spools generally a Bad Thing? I gather that NFS causes problems with lockfiles when used with sendmail, but this is supposedly not a problem with the MailDir mailbox format used by qmail. I seem to remember procmail claiming to deliver reliably over NFS. I don't know whether that reliability extends to safe interaction with whatever pop server is in use. Andrew McNaughton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 5 3:33:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from titan.eclipse.co.uk (titan.eclipse.co.uk [195.188.32.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F9A14E12 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 03:33:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk ([195.188.32.31]) by titan.eclipse.co.uk (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id AAA4297; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 11:33:19 +0000 Message-ID: <36DFC157.D20AA061@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 11:34:47 +0000 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew McNaughton Cc: Haifeng Guo , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mail server setup References: <199903051121.AAA13938@aniwa.sky> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I seem to remember procmail claiming to deliver reliably > over NFS. I don't know whether that reliability extends > to safe interaction with whatever pop server is in use. From the cucipop features file: + Is the only popd to perform reliable mailbox locking across NFS as well (it uses the same excellent and proven locking algorithms as does procmail) -- Stuart Henderson Network Engineer, Eclipse Networking Ltd. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 5 3:48:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from soho.london.virgin.NET (soho.london.virgin.net [194.168.38.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC3951501D for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 03:48:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scot@london.virgin.net) Received: from sulu.tech.vnet (sulu.london.virgin.net [194.168.38.248]) by soho.london.virgin.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19360 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 11:46:44 GMT Received: from localhost (scot@localhost) by sulu.tech.vnet (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06227 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 11:46:06 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: sulu.tech.vnet: scot owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 11:46:06 +0000 (BST) From: Scot Elliott X-Sender: scot@sulu To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mail server setup In-Reply-To: <36DFC157.D20AA061@eclipse.net.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Exim seems to use quite a reliable mailbox locking technique (similar to that of Pine): http://www.exim.org/exim-html-2.10/doc/html/spec_15.html#IDX967 Scot. On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > I seem to remember procmail claiming to deliver reliably > > over NFS. I don't know whether that reliability extends > > to safe interaction with whatever pop server is in use. > > >From the cucipop features file: > > + Is the only popd to perform reliable mailbox locking across > NFS as well (it uses the same excellent and proven locking > algorithms as does procmail) > > -- > Stuart Henderson > Network Engineer, Eclipse Networking Ltd. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 5 15:43:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from goa.stepnet.com (goa.stepnet.com [206.14.120.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E4214D9A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 15:43:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ping@stepnet.com) Received: (from ping@localhost) by goa.stepnet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA05802 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 15:43:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ping) From: Ping Mai Message-Id: <199903052343.PAA05802@goa.stepnet.com> Subject: finger To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 15:43:09 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone konw why finger commands running locally works for some users but not others (finger : ... : no such user) ? I am seeing this on a 2.2.7 and 2.2.8 release systems. I didn't get a good answer from -questions so i am trying -isp. Thanks, ping To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 5 16:25:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.mauigateway.com (www.mauigateway.com [205.166.249.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4676915298 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 16:25:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lierly@www.mauigateway.com) Received: from localhost (lierly@localhost) by www.mauigateway.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA22855; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 14:24:51 -1000 (HST) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 14:24:49 -1000 (HST) From: Nathanael Lierly To: Ping Mai Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: finger In-Reply-To: <199903052343.PAA05802@goa.stepnet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org `ls -la ~uname/.nofinger` ? Nathanael Lierly (AKA. Cephas, Keken, THEOBAUD, Thundarr) UNIX Systems Administrator - FreeBSD, mach, various oditys (cephas@mauibuilt.com) Maui Gateway (www.mauigateway.com nlierly@mauigateway.com) Digital Werks - Media City (www.virtualhawaii.com lierly@virtualhawaii.com) - A computer glitch will not bring about the end of civilization. It takes hordes of panicking people to do that.- question@mauigateway.com Johnathan On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Ping Mai wrote: > Does anyone konw why finger commands running locally works for some > users but not others (finger : ... : no such user) ? I am seeing > this on a 2.2.7 and 2.2.8 release systems. > > I didn't get a good answer from -questions so i am trying -isp. > > Thanks, > > ping > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 5 16:58:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from goa.stepnet.com (goa.stepnet.com [206.14.120.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC3415269 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 16:58:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ping@stepnet.com) Received: (from ping@localhost) by goa.stepnet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05922 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 16:58:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ping) From: Ping Mai Message-Id: <199903060058.QAA05922@goa.stepnet.com> Subject: Re: finger In-Reply-To: From ping at "Mar 5, 1999 3:43: 9 pm" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 16:58:37 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org BTW, there's no ".nofinger" file in the users' directory. > Does anyone konw why finger commands running locally works for some > users but not others (finger : ... : no such user) ? I am seeing > this on a 2.2.7 and 2.2.8 release systems. > > I didn't get a good answer from -questions so i am trying -isp. > > Thanks, > > ping > > ------------------------------------------------------------ Ping Mai ping@stepnet.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Work keeps away three great evils: boredom, vice, and need. - Voltaire To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 5 21:23:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rheingold.navi.net (pdx-pm-p009.navi.net [209.188.52.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8780214D95 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 21:22:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wcooley@nakedape.navi.net) Received: from localhost (wcooley@localhost) by rheingold.navi.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id VAA12708; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 21:20:36 -0800 Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 21:20:31 -0800 (PST) From: International Man of Mystery X-Sender: wcooley@rheingold.navi.net To: Ping Mai Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: finger In-Reply-To: <199903052343.PAA05802@goa.stepnet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Ping Mai wrote: > Does anyone konw why finger commands running locally works for some > users but not others (finger : ... : no such user) ? I am seeing this > on a 2.2.7 and 2.2.8 release systems. > > I didn't get a good answer from -questions so i am trying -isp. Are you sure your password and shadow files are correct? Sometimes an accidental broken line or duplicate username can really do odd things. Wil -- W. Reilly Cooley Naked Ape Consulting wcooley@nakedape.navi.net http://nakedape.navi.net Internet Meta-Resources: http://nakedape.navi.net/meta-res/ "All the Net you need to be a geek." Conscience is the inner voice that warns us somebody may be looking. -- H.L. Mencken, "A Mencken Chrestomathy" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 5 21:26:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from goa.stepnet.com (goa.stepnet.com [206.14.120.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 255CC14DF1 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 21:26:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ping@stepnet.com) Received: (from ping@localhost) by goa.stepnet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA06554; Fri, 5 Mar 1999 21:25:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ping) From: Ping Mai Message-Id: <199903060525.VAA06554@goa.stepnet.com> Subject: Re: finger In-Reply-To: from International Man of Mystery at "Mar 5, 1999 9:20:31 pm" To: wcooley@nakedape.navi.net (International Man of Mystery) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 21:25:46 -0800 (PST) Cc: ping@stepnet.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You were right. There were some corrupt entries in /etc/passwd. All the users after the first bad entry was not being recognize by finger. Thanks, > Message-ID: > On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Ping Mai wrote: > > > Does anyone konw why finger commands running locally works for some > > users but not others (finger : ... : no such user) ? I am seeing this > > on a 2.2.7 and 2.2.8 release systems. > > > > I didn't get a good answer from -questions so i am trying -isp. > > Are you sure your password and shadow files are correct? Sometimes an > accidental broken line or duplicate username can really do odd things. > > > Wil > -- > W. Reilly Cooley Naked Ape Consulting > wcooley@nakedape.navi.net http://nakedape.navi.net > > Internet Meta-Resources: http://nakedape.navi.net/meta-res/ > "All the Net you need to be a geek." > > Conscience is the inner voice that warns us somebody may be looking. > -- H.L. Mencken, "A Mencken Chrestomathy" > > ------------------------------------------------------------ Ping Mai ping@stepnet.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Work keeps away three great evils: boredom, vice, and need. - Voltaire To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 6 8:36:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.monmouth.com (shell.monmouth.com [205.231.236.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2B7815235 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 1999 08:36:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sales@lomag.net) Received: from lomag.net (bg-tc-ppp105.monmouth.com [209.191.60.106]) by shell.monmouth.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA25856 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 1999 11:36:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36E1599F.5AFE3191@lomag.net> Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 11:36:47 -0500 From: Lomag Organization: Lomag Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Mail Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I'm going to be getting a second server soon (shell2.lomag.net), I already have shell.lomag.net. What I want to do is, only run popper and sendmail on shell.lomag.net as mail.lomag.net. So all users on shell2 will have a pop3 only account on shell. How could I make the users on shell2 access their e-mail via pine or mail connecting to shell? Thanks, Lomag To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 6 8:40:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.monmouth.com (shell.monmouth.com [205.231.236.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED19C1528A for ; Sat, 6 Mar 1999 08:40:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sales@lomag.net) Received: from lomag.net (bg-tc-ppp105.monmouth.com [209.191.60.106]) by shell.monmouth.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA26822 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 1999 11:39:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36E15A66.73BB4ED8@lomag.net> Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 11:40:06 -0500 From: Lomag Organization: Lomag Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mail Question References: <36E1599F.5AFE3191@lomag.net> <36E15A36.269B2C10@lomag.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org And also, if they can access mail from shell2 to shell, how could they send e-mail from shell2 using shell. Sorry about that, its important too. :) Lomag Lomag wrote: > > And also, if they can access mail from shell2 to shell, how could > they send e-mail from shell2 using shell. Sorry about that, its > important too. :) > > Lomag > > Lomag wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm going to be getting a second server soon (shell2.lomag.net), > > I already have shell.lomag.net. What I want to do is, only run > > popper and sendmail on shell.lomag.net as mail.lomag.net. > > So all users on shell2 will have a pop3 only account on shell. > > How could I make the users on shell2 access their e-mail via > > pine or mail connecting to shell? > > > > Thanks, > > Lomag To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 6 9: 5:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from surreal.vrhost.com (unknown [216.25.158.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F5E3152C4 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 1999 09:05:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gary@tbe.net) Received: from surreal.vrhost.com (surreal.vrhost.com [216.25.158.22]) by surreal.vrhost.com (Postfix) with SMTP id BD6633CED; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 11:36:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 11:36:50 -0500 (EST) From: "Gary D. Margiotta" X-Sender: gary@surreal.vrhost.com To: Lomag Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mail Question In-Reply-To: <36E1599F.5AFE3191@lomag.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We used IMAP for a little while when we had the same setup running. Worked well. ______________________________________________________________ -Gary Margiotta Voice: (973) 835-7855 TBE Internet Services Fax: (973) 835-4755 http://www.tbe.net E-Mail: gary@tbe.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message