From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jul 11 20:23: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from winter.adsight.com (adsight.com [207.86.2.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5465E14ECA for ; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 20:23:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from webadmin@adsight.com) Received: from winter.adsight.com (winter.adsight.com [207.86.2.34]) by winter.adsight.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA05620; Sun, 11 Jul 1999 23:19:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 23:19:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Sam Magee To: Paul Stewart Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Frontpage Server Installation Problems In-Reply-To: <377A850F.F8904EA8@premier-networks.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 30 Jun 1999, Paul Stewart wrote: > Hi there... > > I am trying to install the latest port of Apache-1.3.6 with Frontpage > extentions.. the port installs perfectly except the httpd doesn't get > patched therefore nobody can connect.... > > Can someone help.. I'm on a very short deadline for clients and the only > patched version I can find is in the frontpage server distribution and > it's 1.2.5 apache > > Thanks, > > Paul > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > Have you run the apache.sh script that generates the Frontpage key? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 12 14:47:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jaeger.nttmcl.com (jaeger.nttmcl.com [216.69.69.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4059150D8 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 14:47:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jan@nttmcl.com) Received: from localhost (jan@localhost) by jaeger.nttmcl.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA70286 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:05:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jan@nttmcl.com) X-Authentication-Warning: jaeger.nttmcl.com: jan owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:05:47 -0700 (PDT) From: "f.johan.beisser" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: updating multiple machines.. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hello, i couldn't find this in the archives, so.. i thought i'd post this. if it was covered, i have to appologise for the repeat.. anyhow, i need to update more than a few machines to -stable. these machines do not have GCC working on them, and i'd like to keep it that way (these are minimal install machines, and have no user accounts). i'd like something faster than a make world (these also do not have source code on them). basically, i would like to do a binary only install on 4 machines, simultaniously. several things are not an option: 1 - NFS 2 - ftp 3 - anything with weak authentication any suggestions? thanks ahead of time, jan +--- Jan Beisser mailto:jan@nttmcl.com phoneto: 650 833 3653 UNIX Systems Administrator NTT MultiMedia Communications Lab "One order of FreeBSD, you want fries with that?" ---+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 12 15:11:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dt054n86.san.rr.com (dt054n86.san.rr.com [24.30.152.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3FEB1528E for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:11:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by dt054n86.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07823; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:09:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:09:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug X-Sender: doug@dt054n86.san.rr.com To: "f.johan.beisser" Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: updating multiple machines.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, f.johan.beisser wrote: > > hello, > > i couldn't find this in the archives, so.. i thought i'd post this. if it > was covered, i have to appologise for the repeat.. > > anyhow, i need to update more than a few machines to -stable. these > machines do not have GCC working on them, and i'd like to keep it that way > (these are minimal install machines, and have no user accounts). > > i'd like something faster than a make world (these also do not have source > code on them). basically, i would like to do a binary only install on 4 > machines, simultaniously. > > several things are not an option: > 1 - NFS > 2 - ftp > 3 - anything with weak authentication > > any suggestions? Your problem definition leaves you very few options. The easiest one would probably be to install from floppies, however you don't say where you're upgrading from. The most thorough solution would be to do a make release, burn it to a cd then do a CD install on the non-gcc machines. Other than that I don't see any options. Good luck, Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has to keep a government four years, no matter what it does. -- Will Rogers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 12 15:14:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from megamail.megared.net.mx (megamail.megared.com.mx [207.249.162.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2AF3A15295 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:14:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ales@megared.net.mx) Received: from [207.249.163.252] by megamail.megared.net.mx (NTMail 3.03.0017/4c.ab3r) with ESMTP id ga398716 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 17:13:29 -0500 Message-ID: <001b01beccb3$53946900$fca3f9cf@megared.net.mx> From: "Alejandro Ramirez" To: "f.johan.beisser" , References: Subject: RE: updating multiple machines.. Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 17:10:18 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, For Binary Option, try using the CDROM Distribution, or if you dont have the CDs, you migth want to prepare a Distribution (Source and Binary) on a hard disk, mount it and change it across the computers, thats very secure and very fast too. Ales ----- Original Message ----- From: f.johan.beisser To: Sent: Monday, July 12, 1999 5:05 PM Subject: updating multiple machines.. > > hello, > > i couldn't find this in the archives, so.. i thought i'd post this. if it > was covered, i have to appologise for the repeat.. > > anyhow, i need to update more than a few machines to -stable. these > machines do not have GCC working on them, and i'd like to keep it that way > (these are minimal install machines, and have no user accounts). > > i'd like something faster than a make world (these also do not have source > code on them). basically, i would like to do a binary only install on 4 > machines, simultaniously. > > several things are not an option: > 1 - NFS > 2 - ftp > 3 - anything with weak authentication > > any suggestions? > > thanks ahead of time, > jan > > +--- > Jan Beisser mailto:jan@nttmcl.com phoneto: 650 833 3653 > UNIX Systems Administrator NTT MultiMedia Communications Lab > "One order of FreeBSD, you want fries with that?" > ---+ > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 12 15:19:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jaeger.nttmcl.com (jaeger.nttmcl.com [216.69.69.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D6915295 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:19:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jan@nttmcl.com) Received: from localhost (jan@localhost) by jaeger.nttmcl.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA70359; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:39:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jan@nttmcl.com) X-Authentication-Warning: jaeger.nttmcl.com: jan owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:39:36 -0700 (PDT) From: "f.johan.beisser" To: Alejandro Ramirez Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: updating multiple machines.. In-Reply-To: <001b01beccb3$53946900$fca3f9cf@megared.net.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org kinda breaks the secured machines. these servers are locked down and protected because they are in effect gateway machines. one solution i heard of (but haven't been able to get to work) is to copy (rdist? rsync?) the /opt directory from the build machine to the intended update machines. any thoughts on this? jan On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Alejandro Ramirez wrote: > Hi, > > For Binary Option, try using the CDROM Distribution, or if you dont have > the CDs, you migth want to prepare a Distribution (Source and Binary) on a > hard disk, mount it and change it across the computers, thats very secure > and very fast too. > > Ales > +--- Jan Beisser mailto:jan@nttmcl.com phoneto: 650 833 3653 UNIX Systems Administrator NTT MultiMedia Communications Lab "One order of FreeBSD, you want fries with that?" ---+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 12 15:31: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from noc.freedomhosting.com (noc.drunk.net [207.226.241.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A01715034 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:30:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kevin@noc.drunk.net) Received: from kevin-turner (kevin@hlfx22-32.ns.sympatico.ca [142.177.72.32]) by noc.freedomhosting.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA53638 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 18:30:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <010301beccb5$89808240$2048b18e@kevin-turner> From: "Kevin" To: "FreebSD ISP list" Subject: snmp / mrtg ? Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:26:06 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I need a way to monitor my users website traffic for each site, I was wondering if mrtg + snmp can monitor this? If so, how? Or if there is other software out there to do this, let me know... Thanks, Kevin Turner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 12 15:52: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rip.ops.neosoft.com (rip.ops.NeoSoft.COM [206.109.4.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A32715034 for ; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:52:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from awsmith@rip.ops.neosoft.com) Received: (from awsmith@localhost) by rip.ops.neosoft.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) id RAA43486; Mon, 12 Jul 1999 17:49:33 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from awsmith) Message-ID: <19990712174933.C43258@ops.neosoft.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 17:49:33 -0500 From: "Andrew W. Smith" To: "f.johan.beisser" , Alejandro Ramirez Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: updating multiple machines.. References: <001b01beccb3$53946900$fca3f9cf@megared.net.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from f.johan.beisser on Mon, Jul 12, 1999 at 03:39:36PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 12-Jul-1999, f.johan.beisser wrote: > > kinda breaks the secured machines. these servers are locked down and > protected because they are in effect gateway machines. > > one solution i heard of (but haven't been able to get to work) is to copy > (rdist? rsync?) the /opt directory from the build machine to the intended > update machines. > > any thoughts on this? > > jan rdist using ssh-agent and -P ssh instead of rsh should work great as long as you are basically replicating binaries to remote machines for your -stable upgrades. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** Andrew W. Smith ** awsmith@neosoft.com ** Chief Network Engineer ** ** http://www.neosoft.com/neosoft/staff/andrew ** 1-888-NEOSOFT ** ** "Opportunities multiply as they are seized" - Sun Tzu ** --------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 13 1:30:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from studict.student.utwente.nl (studict.student.utwente.nl [130.89.220.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA77E152ED for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 01:30:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lva@dds.nl) Received: from ren (ut127003.inbel.utwente.nl [130.89.127.3]) by studict.student.utwente.nl (8.8.6/MQT) with SMTP id KAA16191 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 10:30:17 +0200 (METDST) Reply-To: From: "laurens van alphen (craxx)" To: Subject: ADSL with ISDN backup. What is the best way to go? Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 10:30:17 +0200 Message-ID: <000701becd09$efa72160$0a0010ac@craxx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, We are looking in to using ADSL for our new Internet connection. Although we live in the Netherlands and Telco's are usually somewhat less crappy than the US ones ;P, we still want ISDN backup. The following situation will be installed (i suggest you use a fixed pitch font): (the internet) | (some router) | [ A:upstream cisco 7200 ]---------------+ | | [ B:upstream cisco 6200 ] | | | (adsl) (isdn) | | [ C:cisco 675 asdl (as bridge) ] | | | (ethernet) | | | [ D:freebsd machin w/ 2nic+isdn ta ] | | [ E:freebsd firewall (ipfilter), 3 nics ] | | (ethernet dmz) (other subnets) | | Basically D is our main gateway that will route ip packets through C (adsl bridge at our location) to B (big cisco dsl mama). What we want is our gateway (D) to dial into A (the 7200 at our upstream) when the connection between A en D fails. Several questions: - How should we determine the failure? Some low level protocol, does CBOS (cisco broadband operating system in C) provide anything we can use? Will, for example BSD notice if the ADSL link is down eventhough the bridge (C) is in between (time-out) ? - Can we use static routing w/ a higher metric or are we going RIP, OSPF or BGP4? - Any know issues when using ISDN (sync ppp) between FreeBSD and a Cisco? Thanks, -- laurens van alphen alphen@craxx.nl The box said: 'Requires Windows 98, NT, Linux or better' so I installed FreeBSD. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 13 8:50:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from commnet.accn.org (commnet.accn.org [207.73.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C26214EA1 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:50:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ryanm@accn.org) Received: from accn.org (rocky.accn.org [207.73.64.8]) by commnet.accn.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19335 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 11:50:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <378B602F.7C985727@accn.org> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 11:50:07 -0400 From: ryanm Reply-To: ryanm@accn.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: rdist Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone here have a configuration file for using rdist/rsync to mirror servers?? I have 3 Servers running FreeBSD and would like to sync up 2 of the servers from one master server. I was looking at the rsync doc's and have some questions on what I should and should not mirror. I am assuming since these machines have the same hardware a filesystem-by-filesystem sync'ing up would be okay. Thanks for any info, Ryan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 13 16: 9:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shift-f1.com (SHIFT-F1.COM [208.152.204.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A84114DF9 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 16:09:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shashi@shift-f1.com) Received: (from shashi) by shift-f1.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA17998 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 15:39:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990713163915.A17934@Shift-F1.com> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 16:39:15 -0400 From: Shashi Joshi To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Setting DNS primary for multi-IP machine? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org HI, I am trying to set up my own DNS primary name server. The box is out at the ISP, and it responds to multiple IPs and domains. I am not sure how I shud do this, all the manuals explain it for one domain (multiple subdomain) only. Also, will I need to register the IP/primary name server with NIC? Do I have to use NS.mydomain.com as the nameserver, or can i use mydomain.com also? Any help or pointer will be appreciated. Shashi Josh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 13 16:21:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from arutam.inch.com (ns.inch.com [207.240.140.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26C8D15352 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 16:21:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freyes@inch.com) Received: from your-name (freyes.static.inch.com [207.240.212.43]) by arutam.inch.com (8.9.1a/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA22946; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:21:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907132321.TAA22946@arutam.inch.com> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "Shashi Joshi" Cc: "FreebSD ISP list" Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:22:22 -0400 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.01.1600) For Windows 98 (4.10.1998) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Setting DNS primary for multi-IP machine? Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 13 Jul 1999 16:39:15 -0400, Shashi Joshi wrote: >and it responds to multiple IPs and domains. >I am not sure how I shud do this, Can you clarify. Is the computer currently serving different IPs and domains or is this what you are trying to do? >all the manuals explain it for one domain (multiple subdomain) only. What manual? >Do I have to use NS.mydomain.com as the nameserver, or can i use >mydomain.com also? The internic doesn't care what name the computer has. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 13 17:59:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from java.dpcsys.com (java.dpcsys.com [206.16.184.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F0514CB5 for ; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:59:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@dpcsys.com) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by java.dpcsys.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA02614; Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:58:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:58:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: Shashi Joshi Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Setting DNS primary for multi-IP machine? In-Reply-To: <19990713163915.A17934@Shift-F1.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Shashi Joshi wrote: > I am trying to set up my own DNS primary name server. The box is out at > the ISP, and it responds to multiple IPs and domains. I am not sure how > I shud do this, all the manuals explain it for one domain (multiple > subdomain) only. You can have as many primary lines (4.9) or zone sections (8.x) as you need/want in named.boot/named.conf You have to setup separate zone data files for each domain. For reverse DNS, multiple domains can be listed in the PTR records of the in-addr.arpa zone 1 IN PTR www.domainA.com 2 IN PTR mail.domainA.com 3 IN PTR www.domainB.com > Also, will I need to register the IP/primary name server with NIC? Yes, use the HOST template > Do I have to use NS.mydomain.com as the nameserver, or can i use > mydomain.com also? Give it any name you want. The name you use needs to have an A record and the IP address has to have a PTR pointing to the same name, i.e. no CNAME's here. 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------=_NextPart_000_0060_01BECE44.9E0E7C40-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 14 10:57:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tank.razorfish.com (tank.razorfish.com [206.64.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED71614BD8 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:57:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hans@razorfish.com) Received: from yaga.razorfish.com (yaga.razorfish.com [206.64.109.6]) by tank.razorfish.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA14988 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:55:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from hans@localhost) by yaga.razorfish.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA11678 for isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:55:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907141755.NAA11678@yaga.razorfish.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) X-Image-URL: http://yagaland.razorfish.com/hcs.tiff X-Face: $}SX;AVK.1WpW9e}n(k95w5U?O;M3T8)YG1'%c|?JT/1_RYui,GJ".'lwb.U,(9%*b|z4| RY4T5s,+MFSx%Y_Ot[Tn-S!F9dia&cm*0+65zXMo6S~;B?i/`23C-oovCgg)b{y~kuy6c1 chjm:I(A~3^_2?3Y}[NnMgu>is6|Lm1 X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.2mach [i386] (Enhance 2.2p2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148) From: Hans-Christoph Steiner Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:55:01 -0400 To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? X-URL: http://yagaland.steinertours.com Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We have just added a layer of complexity to the router that we are designing and I wanted to hear about some real world experience. We want to have two T1s to the internet using BGP routing, then a leased T3 directly to an branch office. We would also like to make this machine our firewall and IPSec/VPN machine. Any words of advice or comments would be greatly appreciated. -Hans | || ||| || r a z o r f i s h , inc. hans-christoph steiner [ network systems manager ] >> tel +1.212.798.6432 >> pager +1.888.433.4970 >> http://www.razorfish.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 14 11:24: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tank.razorfish.com (tank.razorfish.com [206.64.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5840715402 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 11:23:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hans@razorfish.com) Received: from yaga.razorfish.com (yaga.razorfish.com [206.64.109.6]) by tank.razorfish.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA16945 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:22:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from hans@localhost) by yaga.razorfish.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id OAA11834 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:22:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907141822.OAA11834@yaga.razorfish.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) X-Image-URL: http://yagaland.razorfish.com/hcs.tiff X-Face: $}SX;AVK.1WpW9e}n(k95w5U?O;M3T8)YG1'%c|?JT/1_RYui,GJ".'lwb.U,(9%*b|z4| RY4T5s,+MFSx%Y_Ot[Tn-S!F9dia&cm*0+65zXMo6S~;B?i/`23C-oovCgg)b{y~kuy6c1 chjm:I(A~3^_2?3Y}[NnMgu>is6|Lm1 X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.2mach [i386] (Enhance 2.2p2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148) From: Hans-Christoph Steiner Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:55:01 -0400 To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? X-URL: http://yagaland.steinertours.com Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We have just added a layer of complexity to the router that we are designing and I wanted to hear about some real world experience. We want to have two T1s to the internet using BGP routing, then a leased T3 directly to an branch office. We would also like to make this machine our firewall and IPSec/VPN machine. Any words of advice or comments would be greatly appreciated. -Hans | || ||| || r a z o r f i s h , inc. hans-christoph steiner [ network systems manager ] >> tel +1.212.798.6432 >> pager +1.888.433.4970 >> http://www.razorfish.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 14 11:51:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.go2france.com (go2france.com [209.51.193.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 193C115453 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 11:51:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Received: from superviseur [62.161.63.210] by mail.go2france.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.03) id A79081200A0; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:23:28 EDT Message-Id: <4.2.0.56.19990714203040.02d640b0@go2france.com> X-Sender: lconrad@go2france.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.56 (Beta) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:49:10 +0200 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <199907141822.OAA11834@yaga.razorfish.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_35963262==_.ALT" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --=====================_35963262==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hans, I'm looking at using fbsd with a www.etinc.com HSSI card to receive an E3 line coming out of the HSSI interface of a Kentrox E3 ISDU. Still some weeks away though. There aren't tons of choices at T3/E3 levels. www.digitallink.com has an E3 DSU, and www.sdl-comm.com also has an HSSI card, but there isn't a fbsd driver for the new SDL Comm WANic that isn't available yet. The WANic is substantially cheaper than the ET card. Apart from that, I didn't find much else in hardware. But several comments from various people and contexts indicate the FreeBSD and a PCI HSSI should have no trouble handling T3/E3 speeds. Dennis @ etinc.com and Doug Haas at imagestream-is.com confirm without reservation and from experience that their cards can support ET/T3 speeds just fine. I wouldn't start by asking the same box to run ipfilter with 40 rules, NAT, and squid and IPsec, though, and keep up with T3/E3 wire speeds. BGP4 and basic packet forwarding with some light filtering seems doable and unavoidable if you have to have more than one backbone feed. btw, I'm also fishing around availability of the Ariel PRI RS2000 card under fbsd. Len. =================== >We have just added a layer of complexity to the router that we are designing >and I wanted to hear about some real world experience. We want to have >two T1s >to the internet using BGP routing, then a leased T3 directly to an branch >office. We would also like to make this machine our firewall and IPSec/VPN >machine. Any words of advice or comments would be greatly appreciated. > >-Hans > > | || ||| || r a z o r f i s h , inc. > > hans-christoph steiner > [ network systems manager ] --=====================_35963262==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Hans,

I'm looking at using fbsd with a www.etinc.com HSSI card to receive an E3 line coming out of the HSSI interface of a Kentrox E3 ISDU.  Still some weeks away though.

There aren't tons of choices at T3/E3 levels.  www.digitallink.com has an E3 DSU, and www.sdl-comm.com also has an HSSI card, but there isn't a fbsd driver for the new SDL Comm WANic that isn't available yet.  The WANic is substantially cheaper than the ET card.

Apart from that, I didn't find much else in hardware.

But several comments from various people and contexts indicate the FreeBSD and a PCI HSSI should have no trouble handling T3/E3 speeds.  Dennis @ etinc.com and Doug Haas at imagestream-is.com confirm without reservation and from experience that their cards can support ET/T3 speeds just fine.

I wouldn't start by asking the same box to run ipfilter with 40 rules, NAT, and squid and IPsec, though, and keep up with T3/E3 wire speeds.  BGP4 and basic packet forwarding with some light filtering seems doable and unavoidable if you have to have more than one backbone feed.

btw, I'm also fishing around availability of the Ariel PRI RS2000 card under fbsd.

Len.

===================

We have just added a layer of complexity to the router that we are designing 
and I wanted to hear about some real world experience.  We want to have two T1s 
to the internet using BGP routing, then a leased T3 directly to an branch 
office.  We would also like to make this machine our firewall and IPSec/VPN 
machine.  Any words of advice or comments would be greatly appreciated.

-Hans

 |    ||   |||  ||         r a z o r f i s h , inc.

 hans-christoph steiner
        [ network systems manager  ]
--=====================_35963262==_.ALT-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 14 12:22:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from nexus6.source.net (nexus6.source.net [206.100.10.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5891543D for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 12:22:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rh@source.net) Received: from nexus6.source.net (nexus6.source.net [206.100.10.4]) by nexus6.source.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA21803; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 12:21:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 12:21:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Hodges To: Len Conrad Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.56.19990714203040.02d640b0@go2france.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 14 Jul 1999, Len Conrad wrote: > I'm looking at using fbsd with a www.etinc.com HSSI card to receive an E3 > line coming out of the HSSI interface of a Kentrox E3 ISDU. Still some > weeks away though. > > There aren't tons of choices at T3/E3 levels. www.digitallink.com has an > E3 DSU, and www.sdl-comm.com also has an HSSI card, but there isn't a fbsd > driver for the new SDL Comm WANic that isn't available yet. The WANic is > substantially cheaper than the ET card. > > Apart from that, I didn't find much else in hardware. You might want to also check out LMC: http://www.lanmedia.com/prod13.htm All the best, -Richard ------------------------------------------------------------- Richard Hodges | Any sufficiently large group of people SourceNet / Alpine | is indistinguishable from idiots. rh@source.net | - OR - finger for pgp key | "Masses are asses." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 14 12:32: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ts.shopnet.com (ts.shopnet.com [208.131.136.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFDF815146 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 12:31:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from deichert@wildponies.org) Received: (from deichert@localhost) by ts.shopnet.com (8.8.4/8.6.12) id NAA06417; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:34:10 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:34:10 -0600 (MDT) From: Diana Eichert X-Sender: deichert@ts.shopnet.com To: Len Conrad Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.56.19990714203040.02d640b0@go2france.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org take a look at www.lanmedia.com, very friendly to *BSD environ. I know several of their cards are supported in Net/OpenBSD, driver under BSD license. not sure of FreeBSD. diana On Wed, 14 Jul 1999, Len Conrad wrote: > Hans, > > I'm looking at using fbsd with a www.etinc.com HSSI card to receive an E3 > line coming out of the HSSI interface of a Kentrox E3 ISDU. Still some > weeks away though. > > There aren't tons of choices at T3/E3 levels. www.digitallink.com has an > E3 DSU, and www.sdl-comm.com also has an HSSI card, but there isn't a fbsd > driver for the new SDL Comm WANic that isn't available yet. The WANic is > substantially cheaper than the ET card. > > Apart from that, I didn't find much else in hardware. > > But several comments from various people and contexts indicate the FreeBSD > and a PCI HSSI should have no trouble handling T3/E3 speeds. Dennis @ > etinc.com and Doug Haas at imagestream-is.com confirm without reservation > and from experience that their cards can support ET/T3 speeds just fine. > > I wouldn't start by asking the same box to run ipfilter with 40 rules, NAT, > and squid and IPsec, though, and keep up with T3/E3 wire speeds. BGP4 and > basic packet forwarding with some light filtering seems doable and > unavoidable if you have to have more than one backbone feed. > > btw, I'm also fishing around availability of the Ariel PRI RS2000 card > under fbsd. > > Len. > > =================== > > >We have just added a layer of complexity to the router that we are designing > >and I wanted to hear about some real world experience. We want to have > >two T1s > >to the internet using BGP routing, then a leased T3 directly to an branch > >office. We would also like to make this machine our firewall and IPSec/VPN > >machine. Any words of advice or comments would be greatly appreciated. > > > >-Hans > > > > | || ||| || r a z o r f i s h , inc. > > > > hans-christoph steiner > > [ network systems manager ] > Diana Eichert deichert@wrench.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 14 13:18:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tank.razorfish.com (tank.razorfish.com [206.64.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFABD14E63 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:18:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hans@razorfish.com) Received: from yaga.razorfish.com (yaga.razorfish.com [206.64.109.6]) by tank.razorfish.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA25295; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:18:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from hans@localhost) by yaga.razorfish.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id PAA12223; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:56:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907141956.PAA12223@yaga.razorfish.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) X-Image-URL: http://yagaland.razorfish.com/hcs.tiff X-Face: $}SX;AVK.1WpW9e}n(k95w5U?O;M3T8)YG1'%c|?JT/1_RYui,GJ".'lwb.U,(9%*b|z4| RY4T5s,+MFSx%Y_Ot[Tn-S!F9dia&cm*0+65zXMo6S~;B?i/`23C-oovCgg)b{y~kuy6c1 chjm:I(A~3^_2?3Y}[NnMgu>is6|Lm1 In-Reply-To: X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.2mach [i386] (Enhance 2.2p2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148) From: Hans-Christoph Steiner Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:56:50 -0400 To: Richard Hodges Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: X-URL: http://yagaland.steinertours.com Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >On Wed, 14 Jul 1999, Len Conrad wrote: > >> I'm looking at using fbsd with a www.etinc.com HSSI card to receive an E3 >> line coming out of the HSSI interface of a Kentrox E3 ISDU. Still some >> weeks away though. >> >> There aren't tons of choices at T3/E3 levels. www.digitallink.com has an >> E3 DSU, and www.sdl-comm.com also has an HSSI card, but there isn't a fbsd >> driver for the new SDL Comm WANic that isn't available yet. The WANic is >> substantially cheaper than the ET card. >> >> Apart from that, I didn't find much else in hardware. > >You might want to also check out LMC: > Do you have any experience with these cards? They look good and the price seems right. -Hans | || ||| || r a z o r f i s h , inc. hans-christoph steiner [ network systems manager ] >> tel +1.212.798.6432 >> pager +1.888.433.4970 >> http://www.razorfish.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 14 13:18:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tank.razorfish.com (tank.razorfish.com [206.64.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC0C14E5F for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:18:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hans@razorfish.com) Received: from yaga.razorfish.com (yaga.razorfish.com [206.64.109.6]) by tank.razorfish.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA25305; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:18:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from hans@localhost) by yaga.razorfish.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id PAA12178; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:53:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907141953.PAA12178@yaga.razorfish.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) X-Image-URL: http://yagaland.razorfish.com/hcs.tiff X-Face: $}SX;AVK.1WpW9e}n(k95w5U?O;M3T8)YG1'%c|?JT/1_RYui,GJ".'lwb.U,(9%*b|z4| RY4T5s,+MFSx%Y_Ot[Tn-S!F9dia&cm*0+65zXMo6S~;B?i/`23C-oovCgg)b{y~kuy6c1 chjm:I(A~3^_2?3Y}[NnMgu>is6|Lm1 In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.56.19990714203040.02d640b0@go2france.com> X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.2mach [i386] (Enhance 2.2p2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148) From: Hans-Christoph Steiner Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:52:52 -0400 To: Len Conrad Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <4.2.0.56.19990714203040.02d640b0@go2france.com> X-URL: http://yagaland.steinertours.com Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >There aren't tons of choices at T3/E3 levels. www.digitallink.com has an >E3 DSU, and www.sdl-comm.com also has an HSSI card, but there isn't a fbsd >driver for the new SDL Comm WANic that isn't available yet. The WANic is >substantially cheaper than the ET card. Do you know anything about the lanmedia cards? (http://www.lanmedia.com/prod10.htm and http://www.lanmedia.com/prod04.htm) They have FBSD drivers and are reasonably priced (http://www.lanmedia.com/pricelist.htm). >I wouldn't start by asking the same box to run ipfilter with 40 rules, NAT, >and squid and IPsec, though, and keep up with T3/E3 wire speeds. BGP4 and >basic packet forwarding with some light filtering seems doable and >unavoidable if you have to have more than one backbone feed. We looking to create something like a T3-ethernet bridge with the T3 cards because the T3 will only be used between two offices. That way would could have the other office on the same LAN. There will be no IP filtering on the T3 so we could also split the T3 off to a different machine if performance is an issue. -Hans | || ||| || r a z o r f i s h , inc. hans-christoph steiner [ network systems manager ] >> tel +1.212.798.6432 >> pager +1.888.433.4970 >> http://www.razorfish.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 14 13:41:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from nexus6.source.net (nexus6.source.net [206.100.10.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C711541C for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:41:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rh@source.net) Received: from nexus6.source.net (nexus6.source.net [206.100.10.4]) by nexus6.source.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA28521; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:39:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:39:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Hodges To: Hans-Christoph Steiner Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <199907141956.PAA12223@yaga.razorfish.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 14 Jul 1999, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >> There aren't tons of choices at T3/E3 levels. www.digitallink.com has an > >> E3 DSU, and www.sdl-comm.com also has an HSSI card, but there isn't a fbsd > >> driver for the new SDL Comm WANic that isn't available yet. The WANic is > >> substantially cheaper than the ET card. > >You might want to also check out LMC: > > Do you have any experience with these cards? They look good and the price > seems right. Sorry, no. I just talked with the fellow at Supercom, and was pleased that they support BOTH operating systems, FreeBSD AND Linux :-) By the way, you would need the PCI mezzanine adapter to use the card. All the best, -Richard ------------------------------------------------------------- Richard Hodges | Any sufficiently large group of people SourceNet / Alpine | is indistinguishable from idiots. rh@source.net | - OR - finger for pgp key | "Masses are asses." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 14 14: 2:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.go2france.com (go2france.com [209.51.193.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A024A14BCF for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:02:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Received: from superviseur [62.161.63.210] by mail.go2france.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.03) id A67F92B00A0; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:35:27 EDT Message-Id: <4.2.0.56.19990714225559.00a85710@go2france.com> X-Sender: lconrad@go2france.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.56 (Beta) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 23:01:46 +0200 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: References: <199907141956.PAA12223@yaga.razorfish.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_43881698==_.ALT" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --=====================_43881698==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Richard, Thanks. In PCI format (as well at CompactPCI and PMC), www.lanmedia.com has both DS3 ($4000)and HSSI ($3000) interfaces. Their website mentions only FreeBSD 2.2, not 3.2. Who is Supercom?? Len =============== Sorry, no. I just talked with the fellow at Supercom, and was pleased >that they support BOTH operating systems, FreeBSD AND Linux :-) > >By the way, you would need the PCI mezzanine adapter to use the card. > >All the best, > >-Richard --=====================_43881698==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Richard,

Thanks. 

In PCI format (as well at CompactPCI and PMC), www.lanmedia.com has both DS3 ($4000)and HSSI ($3000) interfaces.  Their website mentions only FreeBSD 2.2, not 3.2.

Who is Supercom??

Len

===============


Sorry, no.  I just talked with the fellow at Supercom, and was pleased
that they support BOTH operating systems, FreeBSD AND Linux :-)

By the way, you would need the PCI mezzanine adapter to use the card.

All the best,

-Richard
--=====================_43881698==_.ALT-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 14 14: 8:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from nexus6.source.net (nexus6.source.net [206.100.10.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8901215419 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:08:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rh@source.net) Received: from nexus6.source.net (nexus6.source.net [206.100.10.4]) by nexus6.source.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA01328; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:08:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:08:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Hodges To: Len Conrad Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.56.19990714225559.00a85710@go2france.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 14 Jul 1999, Len Conrad wrote: > In PCI format (as well at CompactPCI and PMC), www.lanmedia.com has both > DS3 ($4000)and HSSI ($3000) interfaces. That's good news. I stand corrected. > Their website mentions only FreeBSD 2.2, not 3.2. I would have to check again, but I believed they provided source code for the drivers. > Who is Supercom?? It is a networking trade show, nothing important ;-) -Richard ------------------------------------------------------------- Richard Hodges | Any sufficiently large group of people SourceNet / Alpine | is indistinguishable from idiots. rh@source.net | - OR - finger for pgp key | "Masses are asses." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 14 14:36:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D735B14E1C for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:36:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from dbsys (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA06002 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 17:33:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907142133.RAA06002@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:27:59 -0400 To: isp@freebsd.org From: Dennis Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <199907141956.PAA12223@yaga.razorfish.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 03:56 PM 7/14/99 -0400, you wrote: > >>On Wed, 14 Jul 1999, Len Conrad wrote: >> >>> I'm looking at using fbsd with a www.etinc.com HSSI card to receive an E3 >>> line coming out of the HSSI interface of a Kentrox E3 ISDU. Still some >>> weeks away though. >>> >>> There aren't tons of choices at T3/E3 levels. www.digitallink.com has an >>> E3 DSU, and www.sdl-comm.com also has an HSSI card, but there isn't a fbsd >>> driver for the new SDL Comm WANic that isn't available yet. The WANic is >>> substantially cheaper than the ET card. Well its cheaper because it doesnt work... :-) The lanmedia card is a retro-fitted ethernet controller, so if that doesnt bother you.... Our card has 1 or 2 ports and includes bandwidth management and also supports frame relay. Also, If anyone is willing to mess with zebra bgpd Im looking for test sites. Dennis. >>> >>> Apart from that, I didn't find much else in hardware. >> >>You might want to also check out LMC: >>> > >Do you have any experience with these cards? They look good and the price >seems right. > > >-Hans > > | || ||| || r a z o r f i s h , inc. > > hans-christoph steiner > [ network systems manager ] > > >> tel +1.212.798.6432 > >> pager +1.888.433.4970 > >> http://www.razorfish.com/ > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 14 15:28:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2AAA15478 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:28:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from dbsys (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA06294; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 18:26:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907142226.SAA06294@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 17:20:23 -0400 To: Len Conrad From: Dennis Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? Cc: isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.56.19990714203040.02d640b0@go2france.com> References: <199907141822.OAA11834@yaga.razorfish.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 08:49 PM 7/14/99 +0200, you wrote:=20 > > Hans, > > I'm looking at using fbsd with a www.etinc.com HSSI > card to receive an E3 line coming out of the HSSI interface of a Kentrox= E3 > ISDU.=A0 Still some weeks away though. > > There aren't tons of choices at T3/E3 levels.=A0 > www.digitallink.com has an E3 DSU, and > www.sdl-comm.com also has an HSSI card, but= there > isn't a fbsd driver for the new SDL Comm WANic that isn't available yet.= =A0 The > WANic is substantially cheaper than the ET card. Dont pay too much attention to our list prices. The gov't is buying them at that price but we'll give the reseller price to just about anyone else.= Plus, we have a HSSI card that runs to 20Mb/s (I wouldnt use it over 15Mb/s) for $1995. list that is field upgradable to full T3 speeds. > > But several comments from various people and contexts indicate the FreeBSD > and a PCI HSSI should have no trouble handling T3/E3 speeds.=A0 Dennis @ > etinc.com and Doug Haas at imagestream-is.com confirm without reservation and > from experience that their cards can support ET/T3 speeds just fine. Its not so much the "speed" as it is bus contention. Realize that a full T3= is really 90Mb/s (its full duplex). The issues arise when you have multiple= high speed devices that want the bus at the same time. Our dual controller is a single device so it streamlines the bus issues (ie its better than 2= separate cards). You can put more than one ethernet card in the box,but you should avoid a lot of local routing (ie ethernet to ethernet) to reduce bus issues.=20 I personally dont believe that sdl's architecture (a cpu with onboard ram buffers) will work reliably (as they are finding out a year and a half= later), but software-wise I dont consider them much of a competitor anyway.=20 A bigger issue than the hardware is with the driver itself...writing drivers of this type is much more difficult than writing drivers for T1 cards. With uptimes of over a month on busy T3s Im pretty confident about our product.= 90% of our code is common to our other boards, so there is a maturity factor as well. > > I wouldn't start by asking the same box to run ipfilter with 40 rules,= NAT, > and squid and IPsec, though, and keep up with T3/E3 wire speeds.=A0 BGP4= and > basic packet forwarding with some light filtering seems doable and > unavoidable if you have to have more than one backbone feed. We have people running our bwmgr with more than 40 rules (although its a LOT more efficient then ipfilter) on HSSI machines. Again, the pps is not the limiting factor with todays CPU speeds, its the efficiency of the bus. You probably WILL have to run gated or bgpd, which uses up a lot more resources than all of the forementioned. We'll be marketing a 400Mhz, dual HSSI box= (1U rackmount) very shortly that should be just about right horsepower-wise. Dennis Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com ISA and PCI T1/T3/V35/HSSI Cards for FreeBSD and LINUX HSSI/T3 UNIX-based Routers Bandwidth Manager=20 http://www.etinc.com/bwmgr.htm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 14 17:14:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.vcnet.com (mail.vcnet.com [209.239.239.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21AB01545F for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 17:14:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jpr@vcnet.com) Received: from [209.239.239.22] by mail.vcnet.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 0-39954U2500L250S0) with ESMTP id AAA16444 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 17:14:08 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199907142226.SAA06294@etinc.com> References: <199907141822.OAA11834@yaga.razorfish.com> <199907142226.SAA06294@etinc.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 17:14:08 -0700 To: isp@freebsd.org From: Jon Rust Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 5:20 PM -0400 7/14/99, Dennis was again pimping his product: >Dont pay too much attention to our list prices. The gov't is buying them at Don't pay too much attention to Dennis period. Browse through archives of inet-access and you'll see what I mean. The other vendors deserve more of your attention. Some great "Dennisisms": - All ISPs are in the business of pirating software - No ISPs are potential customers of his - Any ISP that blocks spam should be sued and possibly thrown in the slammer - Anyone that is too stupid to figure out his products on their own with no support, doesn't qualify to buy them No, I'm not making these up. Yes, his product seems attractive, but for me, his general demeanor online would scare me away. Jon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 14 17:18:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cscfx.sytex.com (cscfx.sytex.com [205.147.190.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A09514BD2 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 17:18:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rwc@sytex.net) Received: (from rwc@localhost) by cscfx.sytex.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA32611; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:11:04 -0400 Message-Id: <199907150011.UAA32611@cscfx.sytex.com> Subject: Re: Ariel RS2000 and FBSD To: lconrad@Go2France.com (Len Conrad) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:11:03 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.56.19990714203040.02d640b0@go2france.com> from "Len Conrad" at Jul 14, 99 08:49:10 pm From: rcramer@sytex.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 406 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Len, We are currently developing the RAS Software for the Ariel Board. Will keep you informed of progress. R Cramer > > btw, I'm also fishing around availability of the Ariel PRI RS2000 card > under fbsd. > > Len. > > =================== -- Richard Cramer rcramer@sytex.net Phone: 703-425-2515 President Fax: 703-425-4585 SytexNet(tm) Sytex Access Ltd. POB 2385, Fairfax, VA 22031-0385 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 14 17:55:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2B814E90 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 17:55:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from dbsys (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA06875 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:51:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907150051.UAA06875@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 19:45:35 -0400 To: isp@freebsd.org From: Dennis Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: References: <199907142226.SAA06294@etinc.com> <199907141822.OAA11834@yaga.razorfish.com> <199907142226.SAA06294@etinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 05:14 PM 7/14/99 -0700, you wrote: >At 5:20 PM -0400 7/14/99, Dennis was again pimping his product: >>Dont pay too much attention to our list prices. The gov't is buying them at > >Don't pay too much attention to Dennis period. Browse through >archives of inet-access and you'll see what I mean. The other vendors >deserve more of your attention. > >Some great "Dennisisms": > > - All ISPs are in the business of pirating software > > - No ISPs are potential customers of his > > - Any ISP that blocks spam should be sued and possibly thrown in the slammer > > - Anyone that is too stupid to figure out his products on their own with > no support, doesn't qualify to buy them > > >No, I'm not making these up. Yes, his product seems attractive, but >for me, his general demeanor online would scare me away. LOL. You're a real quality guy Jonny boy. A bit of embellishment, dont ya think? I dont think people on this list are dumb enough to believe that because we dont supply source that I think ISPs are pirates, or because I believe that ISPs that block mail indescriminately are in the wrong that they should be thrown in the slammer, or that I dont think that ISPs are my customer base (MOST of my customers are ISPs...I just said that the inet-access is a list for ciscoheads and are not likely to buy anything from me). If you're going to exaggerate so substantially at least try to make it believable for pete's sake! Dennis Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com ISA and PCI T1/T3/V35/HSSI Cards for FreeBSD and LINUX HSSI/T3 UNIX-based Routers Bandwidth Manager http://www.etinc.com/bwmgr.htm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 14 22:29:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ccsales.com (ccsales.com [216.0.22.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D0C14FA2 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 22:29:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randyk@ccsales.com) Received: from rknt2 (joe.hiper.net [206.111.55.146]) by ccsales.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id WAA28911; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 22:30:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990714222921.0573f320@ccsales.com> X-Sender: randyk@ccsales.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 22:29:21 -0700 To: Dennis , isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Randy A. Katz" Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <199907150051.UAA06875@etinc.com> References: <199907142226.SAA06294@etinc.com> <199907141822.OAA11834@yaga.razorfish.com> <199907142226.SAA06294@etinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Cool! I guess Dennis is granted another stab at life since this story cannot possibly convince a (flea?). I use Dennis's products, have received excellent support from Dennis himself, and have no financial gain by saying so...actually I hope that none of you use his products because once the big guys find out how good his HSSI cards are (and software) then there will be no more Dennis (have a good vacation Dennis), no more ETInc...only a big marketing push and some back office engineers which are served iced cappucino as they disect and embelish Dennis stuff! At 07:45 PM 7/14/99 -0400, Dennis wrote: >At 05:14 PM 7/14/99 -0700, you wrote: >>At 5:20 PM -0400 7/14/99, Dennis was again pimping his product: >>>Dont pay too much attention to our list prices. The gov't is buying them at >> >>Don't pay too much attention to Dennis period. Browse through >>archives of inet-access and you'll see what I mean. The other vendors >>deserve more of your attention. >> >>Some great "Dennisisms": >> >> - All ISPs are in the business of pirating software >> >> - No ISPs are potential customers of his >> >> - Any ISP that blocks spam should be sued and possibly thrown in the >slammer >> >> - Anyone that is too stupid to figure out his products on their own with >> no support, doesn't qualify to buy them >> >> >>No, I'm not making these up. Yes, his product seems attractive, but >>for me, his general demeanor online would scare me away. > >LOL. You're a real quality guy Jonny boy. A bit of embellishment, dont ya >think? > >I dont think people on this list are dumb enough to believe that because we >dont supply source that I think ISPs are pirates, or because I believe that >ISPs that block mail indescriminately are in the wrong that they should be >thrown in the slammer, or that I dont think that ISPs are my customer base >(MOST of my customers are ISPs...I just said that the inet-access is a list >for ciscoheads and are not likely to buy anything from me). If you're going >to exaggerate so substantially at least try to make it believable for >pete's sake! > >Dennis >Emerging Technologies, Inc. > > > > >http://www.etinc.com >ISA and PCI T1/T3/V35/HSSI Cards for FreeBSD and LINUX >HSSI/T3 UNIX-based Routers >Bandwidth Manager > > > >http://www.etinc.com/bwmgr.htm > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 14 22:57:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.trace.net.tw (mail.trace.net.tw [202.80.128.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6821715501 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 22:57:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ronald@trace.net.tw) X-Comments: ****** Message sent through an Trace account ****** X-http: ****** http://www.trace.com.tw ****** Received: from trace.net.tw (engineer.trace.net.tw [202.80.128.82]) by mail.trace.net.tw (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA18012; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:55:12 +0800 Message-ID: <378D793A.58EDD1D5@trace.net.tw> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 14:01:30 +0800 From: Ronald Wiplinger Organization: Wang's Trace Tech. Enterprise Co., Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-TW MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Randy A. Katz" Cc: Dennis , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? References: <199907142226.SAA06294@etinc.com> <199907141822.OAA11834@yaga.razorfish.com> <199907142226.SAA06294@etinc.com> <3.0.5.32.19990714222921.0573f320@ccsales.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------5E75A88C905B8E1BB337B98C" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------5E75A88C905B8E1BB337B98C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I could not resist, but your words makes me laugh. Maybe the otherway round would happen, Dennis would finally find a place at the xxxxx, where he cannot blend customers anymore, and better educated sales engineer would take over. Anyway I use his cards only for activating the bandwidth filter anymore, and even that one is wrong as already mentioned several times. Unfortunatly I cannot sell his card, but if you Randy are so happy with it, would you mind to buy the three cards I have from Etinc? It comes of course as from the factory - without any support, no manual (but I give you the empty manual disk as well), screws of the cable are not to use, ... but it looks perfect. For the bandwidth manager you just need to divide the figures by two than it is correct too, .... but hey therefore it is cheap, .... Counting the effort to get the thing running and the downtime I had with it, it is the expensivest router I ever bought, ... I am now back at Cisco 3640s. More expenses front up, but working without any downtime within minutes!!! The longest time you spend with the 3640 is to unwrapp it! "Randy A. Katz" wrote: > Cool! > > I guess Dennis is granted another stab at life since this story cannot > possibly convince a (flea?). I use Dennis's products, have received > excellent support from Dennis himself, and have no financial gain by saying > so...actually I hope that none of you use his products because once the big > guys find out how good his HSSI cards are (and software) then there will be > no more Dennis (have a good vacation Dennis), no more ETInc...only a big > marketing push and some back office engineers which are served iced > cappucino as they disect and embelish Dennis stuff! > > At 07:45 PM 7/14/99 -0400, Dennis wrote: > >At 05:14 PM 7/14/99 -0700, you wrote: > >>At 5:20 PM -0400 7/14/99, Dennis was again pimping his product: > >>>Dont pay too much attention to our list prices. The gov't is buying them at > >> > >>Don't pay too much attention to Dennis period. Browse through > >>archives of inet-access and you'll see what I mean. The other vendors > >>deserve more of your attention. > >> > >>Some great "Dennisisms": > >> > >> - All ISPs are in the business of pirating software > >> > >> - No ISPs are potential customers of his > >> > >> - Any ISP that blocks spam should be sued and possibly thrown in the > >slammer > >> > >> - Anyone that is too stupid to figure out his products on their own with > >> no support, doesn't qualify to buy them > >> > >> > >>No, I'm not making these up. Yes, his product seems attractive, but > >>for me, his general demeanor online would scare me away. > > > >LOL. You're a real quality guy Jonny boy. A bit of embellishment, dont ya > >think? > > > >I dont think people on this list are dumb enough to believe that because we > >dont supply source that I think ISPs are pirates, or because I believe that > >ISPs that block mail indescriminately are in the wrong that they should be > >thrown in the slammer, or that I dont think that ISPs are my customer base > >(MOST of my customers are ISPs...I just said that the inet-access is a list > >for ciscoheads and are not likely to buy anything from me). If you're going > >to exaggerate so substantially at least try to make it believable for > >pete's sake! > > > >Dennis > >Emerging Technologies, Inc. > > > > > > > > > >http://www.etinc.com > >ISA and PCI T1/T3/V35/HSSI Cards for FreeBSD and LINUX > >HSSI/T3 UNIX-based Routers > >Bandwidth Manager > > > > > > > >http://www.etinc.com/bwmgr.htm > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Ronald Wiplinger (ÃQ¤¯¯Ç) http://www.trace.net.tw phone number = e-mail: e-mail: 0935869459@phonebook.com.tw or ronald@trace.net.tw --------------5E75A88C905B8E1BB337B98C Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="ronald.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Ronald Wiplinger Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ronald.vcf" begin:vcard n:Wiplinger;Ronald tel;pager:0943-154953 tel;cell:0935-869459 tel;fax:2600-0132 tel;home:2609-0652 ext. 80 tel;work:2609-0652 ext. 12 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:www.trace.net.tw org:Wang's Trace Tech. 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Manager fn:Ronald Wiplinger end:vcard --------------5E75A88C905B8E1BB337B98C-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 1:36:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.go2france.com (go2france.com [209.51.193.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B934E151AB for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 01:36:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Received: from superviseur [62.161.63.210] by mail.go2france.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.03) id A8F0EAF00A0; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 03:08:32 EDT Message-Id: <4.2.0.56.19990715100517.00a5bbd0@go2france.com> X-Sender: lconrad@go2france.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.56 (Beta) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:32:50 +0200 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <199907141953.PAA12178@yaga.razorfish.com> References: <4.2.0.56.19990714203040.02d640b0@go2france.com> <4.2.0.56.19990714203040.02d640b0@go2france.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_85460075==_.ALT" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --=====================_85460075==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >Do you know anything about the lanmedia cards? Hi Hans, No, I just learned about LMC in this surprisingly long thread, but am still waiting for somebody at LMC to respond to my email to their "sales@" box. Their website design suggests that they may not look at it very often or care much about it :-)) and maybe don't check its mailboxes ! Betting your ISP on infrastructure products like an T3/E3 card really makes you want to get comfortable with the product and the company. I get the feeling the LMC and ET are fairly small techy shops but have been around for a while while SDL Comm feels bigger, (fwiw, probably not much). Sangoma seems fairly popular with the Linux LRP crowd but they don't have any cards above E1. So in the "any experience" area, we have one vote for and one vote against ET HSSI card (and a coupla votes on Dennis). I have two of Dennis' old ISA cards, found a serious bug in the initialisation of the driver and IRQ connection (always, always, always run immediately some performance tests as in-the-ballpark sanity checks!!), and haven't had much chance to really lean on them, yet. (ET's new PCI 4-port card looks good for driving dedicated WAN lines to client sites.) So, we've got no votes on LMC or SDL Comm. Regards, Len --=====================_85460075==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Do you know anything about the lanmedia cards? 

Hi Hans,

No, I just learned about LMC in this surprisingly long thread, but am still waiting for somebody at LMC to respond to my email to their "sales@" box.  Their website design suggests that they may not look at it very often or care much about it :-)) and maybe don't check its mailboxes !

Betting your ISP on infrastructure products like an T3/E3 card really makes you want to get comfortable with the product and the company.  I get the feeling the LMC and ET are fairly small techy shops but have been around for a while while SDL Comm feels bigger, (fwiw, probably not much). Sangoma seems fairly popular with the Linux LRP crowd but they don't have any cards above E1.

So in the "any experience" area, we have one vote for and one vote against ET HSSI card (and a coupla votes on Dennis).  I have two of Dennis' old ISA cards, found a serious bug in the initialisation of the driver and IRQ connection (always, always, always run immediately some performance tests as in-the-ballpark sanity checks!!), and haven't had much chance to really lean on them, yet.  (ET's new PCI 4-port card looks good for driving dedicated WAN lines to client sites.)

So, we've got no votes on LMC or SDL Comm.

Regards,
Len
--=====================_85460075==_.ALT-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 5:39:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from commnet.accn.org (commnet.accn.org [207.73.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E3414D9A for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 05:39:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ryanm@accn.org) Received: from accn.org (rocky.accn.org [207.73.64.8]) by commnet.accn.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA27940 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 08:39:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <378DD67B.8D5A9@accn.org> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 08:39:23 -0400 From: ryanm Reply-To: ryanm@accn.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Sendmail Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello fellow FreeBSD users, I have sendmail running on a FreeBSD box and wondered what the following 2 error messages meant. Jul 14 19:32:06 commnet sendmail[29560]: TAA29560: ... Cannot mail directly to files Jul 14 23:24:42 commnet sendmail[12439]: NOQUEUE: Null connection from listserver.buy.com [209.67.181.22] I have been parsing through the "bat" book looking for these answers and cannot seem to find these errors listed in the book. I am assuming a Null connection either means a host connected to port 25 and did not send any data or connected and did not complete the 3-way handshake. If anyone could fill me in on this I would appreciate it. Thanks, Ryan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 5:57:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ts.shopnet.com (ts.shopnet.com [208.131.136.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AEE91553C for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 05:57:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from deichert@wildponies.org) Received: (from deichert@localhost) by ts.shopnet.com (8.8.4/8.6.12) id GAA13846; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 06:57:22 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 06:57:22 -0600 (MDT) From: Diana Eichert X-Sender: deichert@ts.shopnet.com To: Len Conrad Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.56.19990715100517.00a5bbd0@go2france.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org try this address at lanmedia: Dave DePuy that's who we interacted with when we co-ordinated driver integration into OpenBSD. I didn't do the driver integration, another person took the NetBSD driver and ported it to OpenBSD. They got a free T1 card for their efforts, don't know what the status of the T3 driver is. Currently the driver only supports point to point, no support for frame. The person who integrated the driver made some comment re: integrating sppp support into OpenBSD in order to support frame. Since FreeBSD has sppp already should make it easier. Once again, i was only the facilitator who got the vendor and developer talking. I am definitely NOT a kernel hacker. diana On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, Len Conrad wrote: > > >Do you know anything about the lanmedia cards? > > Hi Hans, > > No, I just learned about LMC in this surprisingly long thread, but am still > waiting for somebody at LMC to respond to my email to their "sales@" > box. Their website design suggests that they may not look at it very often > or care much about it :-)) and maybe don't check its mailboxes ! > > Betting your ISP on infrastructure products like an T3/E3 card really makes > you want to get comfortable with the product and the company. I get the > feeling the LMC and ET are fairly small techy shops but have been around > for a while while SDL Comm feels bigger, (fwiw, probably not much). Sangoma > seems fairly popular with the Linux LRP crowd but they don't have any cards > above E1. > > So in the "any experience" area, we have one vote for and one vote against > ET HSSI card (and a coupla votes on Dennis). I have two of Dennis' old ISA > cards, found a serious bug in the initialisation of the driver and IRQ > connection (always, always, always run immediately some performance tests > as in-the-ballpark sanity checks!!), and haven't had much chance to really > lean on them, yet. (ET's new PCI 4-port card looks good for driving > dedicated WAN lines to client sites.) > > So, we've got no votes on LMC or SDL Comm. > > Regards, > Len > Diana Eichert deichert@wrench.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 6:47:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ccsales.com (ccsales.com [216.0.22.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E92714E6D for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 06:47:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randyk@ccsales.com) Received: from rknt2 (joe.hiper.net [206.111.55.146]) by ccsales.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id GAA07163; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 06:48:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990715064717.03c6ec30@ccsales.com> X-Sender: randyk@ccsales.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 06:47:17 -0700 To: Ronald Wiplinger From: "Randy A. Katz" Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? Cc: Dennis , isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <378D793A.58EDD1D5@trace.net.tw> References: <199907142226.SAA06294@etinc.com> <199907141822.OAA11834@yaga.razorfish.com> <199907142226.SAA06294@etinc.com> <3.0.5.32.19990714222921.0573f320@ccsales.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ronald, So nice to hear from you also! I own two Cisco 7507's both with Dual DS3 and Dual Ethernet ports, a number of dual-T1 adapters and a dual-HSSI adapter from ETInc. I am actually in need of a single T1 adapter if you have one for sale...but it needs to be later and PCI, do you have such beast on hand? I could probably, time permitting, relieve it from your hands should we be able to come to reasonable terms. Please let me know, Randy Katz At 02:01 PM 7/15/99 +0800, Ronald Wiplinger wrote: >I could not resist, but your words makes me laugh. Maybe the otherway round would >happen, Dennis would finally find a place at the xxxxx, where he cannot= blend >customers anymore, and better educated sales engineer would take over. >Anyway I use his cards only for activating the bandwidth filter anymore, and even >that one is wrong as already mentioned several times. Unfortunatly I cannot sell >his card, but if you Randy are so happy with it, would you mind to buy the three >cards I have from Etinc? It comes of course as from the factory - without= any >support, no manual (but I give you the empty manual disk as well), screws of the >cable are not to use, ... >but it looks perfect. For the bandwidth manager you just need to divide the >figures by two than it is correct too, .... but hey therefore it is cheap, .... > >Counting the effort to get the thing running and the downtime I had with it, it is >the expensivest router I ever bought, ... >I am now back at Cisco 3640s. More expenses front up, but working without any >downtime within minutes!!! The longest time you spend with the 3640 is to unwrapp >it! > > >"Randy A. Katz" wrote: > >> Cool! >> >> I guess Dennis is granted another stab at life since this story cannot >> possibly convince a (flea?). I use Dennis's products, have received >> excellent support from Dennis himself, and have no financial gain by= saying >> so...actually I hope that none of you use his products because once the= big >> guys find out how good his HSSI cards are (and software) then there will= be >> no more Dennis (have a good vacation Dennis), no more ETInc...only a big >> marketing push and some back office engineers which are served iced >> cappucino as they disect and embelish Dennis stuff! >> >> At 07:45 PM 7/14/99 -0400, Dennis wrote: >> >At 05:14 PM 7/14/99 -0700, you wrote: >> >>At 5:20 PM -0400 7/14/99, Dennis was again pimping his product: >> >>>Dont pay too much attention to our list prices. The gov't is buying them at >> >> >> >>Don't pay too much attention to Dennis period. Browse through >> >>archives of inet-access and you'll see what I mean. The other vendors >> >>deserve more of your attention. >> >> >> >>Some great "Dennisisms": >> >> >> >> - All ISPs are in the business of pirating software >> >> >> >> - No ISPs are potential customers of his >> >> >> >> - Any ISP that blocks spam should be sued and possibly thrown in the >> >slammer >> >> >> >> - Anyone that is too stupid to figure out his products on their own with >> >> no support, doesn't qualify to buy them >> >> >> >> >> >>No, I'm not making these up. Yes, his product seems attractive, but >> >>for me, his general demeanor online would scare me away. >> > >> >LOL. You're a real quality guy Jonny boy. A bit of embellishment, dont= ya >> >think? >> > >> >I dont think people on this list are dumb enough to believe that because we >> >dont supply source that I think ISPs are pirates, or because I believe that >> >ISPs that block mail indescriminately are in the wrong that they should= be >> >thrown in the slammer, or that I dont think that ISPs are my customer= base >> >(MOST of my customers are ISPs...I just said that the inet-access is a list >> >for ciscoheads and are not likely to buy anything from me). If you're going >> >to exaggerate so substantially at least try to make it believable for >> >pete's sake! >> > >> >Dennis >> >Emerging Technologies, Inc. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >http://www.etinc.com >> >ISA and PCI T1/T3/V35/HSSI Cards for FreeBSD and LINUX >> >HSSI/T3 UNIX-based Routers >> >Bandwidth Manager >> > >> > >> > >> >http://www.etinc.com/bwmgr.htm >> > >> > >> >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >> > >> > >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > >-- >Ronald Wiplinger (=C3Q=A4=AF=AF=C7) http://www.trace.net.tw >phone number =3D e-mail: >e-mail: 0935869459@phonebook.com.tw or ronald@trace.net.tw > > >Attachment Converted: "d:\eudorapgp\attach\ronald.vcf" > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 6:48:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ccsales.com (ccsales.com [216.0.22.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A361556D for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 06:48:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randyk@ccsales.com) Received: from rknt2 (joe.hiper.net [206.111.55.146]) by ccsales.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id GAA07173; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 06:48:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990715064749.00bd8750@ccsales.com> X-Sender: randyk@ccsales.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 06:47:49 -0700 To: Ronald Wiplinger From: "Randy A. Katz" Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? Cc: Dennis , isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <378D793A.58EDD1D5@trace.net.tw> References: <199907142226.SAA06294@etinc.com> <199907141822.OAA11834@yaga.razorfish.com> <199907142226.SAA06294@etinc.com> <3.0.5.32.19990714222921.0573f320@ccsales.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ronald, Question, how are you able to do bandwidth limiting on your Cisco gear? At 02:01 PM 7/15/99 +0800, Ronald Wiplinger wrote: >I could not resist, but your words makes me laugh. Maybe the otherway round would >happen, Dennis would finally find a place at the xxxxx, where he cannot= blend >customers anymore, and better educated sales engineer would take over. >Anyway I use his cards only for activating the bandwidth filter anymore, and even >that one is wrong as already mentioned several times. Unfortunatly I cannot sell >his card, but if you Randy are so happy with it, would you mind to buy the three >cards I have from Etinc? It comes of course as from the factory - without= any >support, no manual (but I give you the empty manual disk as well), screws of the >cable are not to use, ... >but it looks perfect. For the bandwidth manager you just need to divide the >figures by two than it is correct too, .... but hey therefore it is cheap, .... > >Counting the effort to get the thing running and the downtime I had with it, it is >the expensivest router I ever bought, ... >I am now back at Cisco 3640s. More expenses front up, but working without any >downtime within minutes!!! The longest time you spend with the 3640 is to unwrapp >it! > > >"Randy A. Katz" wrote: > >> Cool! >> >> I guess Dennis is granted another stab at life since this story cannot >> possibly convince a (flea?). I use Dennis's products, have received >> excellent support from Dennis himself, and have no financial gain by= saying >> so...actually I hope that none of you use his products because once the= big >> guys find out how good his HSSI cards are (and software) then there will= be >> no more Dennis (have a good vacation Dennis), no more ETInc...only a big >> marketing push and some back office engineers which are served iced >> cappucino as they disect and embelish Dennis stuff! >> >> At 07:45 PM 7/14/99 -0400, Dennis wrote: >> >At 05:14 PM 7/14/99 -0700, you wrote: >> >>At 5:20 PM -0400 7/14/99, Dennis was again pimping his product: >> >>>Dont pay too much attention to our list prices. The gov't is buying them at >> >> >> >>Don't pay too much attention to Dennis period. Browse through >> >>archives of inet-access and you'll see what I mean. The other vendors >> >>deserve more of your attention. >> >> >> >>Some great "Dennisisms": >> >> >> >> - All ISPs are in the business of pirating software >> >> >> >> - No ISPs are potential customers of his >> >> >> >> - Any ISP that blocks spam should be sued and possibly thrown in the >> >slammer >> >> >> >> - Anyone that is too stupid to figure out his products on their own with >> >> no support, doesn't qualify to buy them >> >> >> >> >> >>No, I'm not making these up. Yes, his product seems attractive, but >> >>for me, his general demeanor online would scare me away. >> > >> >LOL. You're a real quality guy Jonny boy. A bit of embellishment, dont= ya >> >think? >> > >> >I dont think people on this list are dumb enough to believe that because we >> >dont supply source that I think ISPs are pirates, or because I believe that >> >ISPs that block mail indescriminately are in the wrong that they should= be >> >thrown in the slammer, or that I dont think that ISPs are my customer= base >> >(MOST of my customers are ISPs...I just said that the inet-access is a list >> >for ciscoheads and are not likely to buy anything from me). If you're going >> >to exaggerate so substantially at least try to make it believable for >> >pete's sake! >> > >> >Dennis >> >Emerging Technologies, Inc. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >http://www.etinc.com >> >ISA and PCI T1/T3/V35/HSSI Cards for FreeBSD and LINUX >> >HSSI/T3 UNIX-based Routers >> >Bandwidth Manager >> > >> > >> > >> >http://www.etinc.com/bwmgr.htm >> > >> > >> >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >> > >> > >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > >-- >Ronald Wiplinger (=C3Q=A4=AF=AF=C7) http://www.trace.net.tw >phone number =3D e-mail: >e-mail: 0935869459@phonebook.com.tw or ronald@trace.net.tw > > >Attachment Converted: "d:\eudorapgp\attach\ronald.vcf" > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 6:59:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.trace.net.tw (mail.trace.net.tw [202.80.128.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF7C14E6D for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 06:59:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ronald@mail.trace.net.tw) X-Comments: ****** Message sent through an Trace account ****** X-http: ****** http://www.trace.com.tw ****** Received: from localhost (ronald@localhost) by mail.trace.net.tw (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id VAA23406; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:58:59 +0800 Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:58:59 +0800 (CST) From: Ronald Wiplinger To: "Randy A. Katz" Cc: Dennis , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990715064717.03c6ec30@ccsales.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, Randy A. Katz wrote: > Ronald, >=20 > So nice to hear from you also! I own two Cisco 7507's both with Dual DS3 > and Dual Ethernet ports, a number of dual-T1 adapters and a dual-HSSI > adapter from ETInc. >=20 > I am actually in need of a single T1 adapter if you have one for sale...b= ut > it needs to be later and PCI, do you have such beast on hand? I could > probably, time permitting, relieve it from your hands should we be able t= o > come to reasonable terms. The one - port card is a ISA, worked very well, therefore I bought the 2 four port cards. All together I would like to get out of the house, .... >=20 > Please let me know, > Randy Katz >=20 >=20 > At 02:01 PM 7/15/99 +0800, Ronald Wiplinger wrote: > >I could not resist, but your words makes me laugh. Maybe the otherway > round would > >happen, Dennis would finally find a place at the xxxxx, where he cannot = blend > >customers anymore, and better educated sales engineer would take over. > >Anyway I use his cards only for activating the bandwidth filter anymore, > and even > >that one is wrong as already mentioned several times. Unfortunatly I > cannot sell > >his card, but if you Randy are so happy with it, would you mind to buy t= he > three > >cards I have from Etinc? It comes of course as from the factory - withou= t any > >support, no manual (but I give you the empty manual disk as well), screw= s > of the > >cable are not to use, ... > >but it looks perfect. For the bandwidth manager you just need to divide = the > >figures by two than it is correct too, .... but hey therefore it is chea= p, > .... > > > >Counting the effort to get the thing running and the downtime I had with > it, it is > >the expensivest router I ever bought, ... > >I am now back at Cisco 3640s. More expenses front up, but working witho= ut > any > >downtime within minutes!!! The longest time you spend with the 3640 is t= o > unwrapp > >it! > > > > > >"Randy A. Katz" wrote: > > > >> Cool! > >> > >> I guess Dennis is granted another stab at life since this story cannot > >> possibly convince a (flea?). I use Dennis's products, have received > >> excellent support from Dennis himself, and have no financial gain by s= aying > >> so...actually I hope that none of you use his products because once th= e big > >> guys find out how good his HSSI cards are (and software) then there wi= ll be > >> no more Dennis (have a good vacation Dennis), no more ETInc...only a b= ig > >> marketing push and some back office engineers which are served iced > >> cappucino as they disect and embelish Dennis stuff! > >> > >> At 07:45 PM 7/14/99 -0400, Dennis wrote: > >> >At 05:14 PM 7/14/99 -0700, you wrote: > >> >>At 5:20 PM -0400 7/14/99, Dennis was again pimping his product: > >> >>>Dont pay too much attention to our list prices. The gov't is buying > them at > >> >> > >> >>Don't pay too much attention to Dennis period. Browse through > >> >>archives of inet-access and you'll see what I mean. The other vendor= s > >> >>deserve more of your attention. > >> >> > >> >>Some great "Dennisisms": > >> >> > >> >> - All ISPs are in the business of pirating software > >> >> > >> >> - No ISPs are potential customers of his > >> >> > >> >> - Any ISP that blocks spam should be sued and possibly thrown in = the > >> >slammer > >> >> > >> >> - Anyone that is too stupid to figure out his products on their o= wn > with > >> >> no support, doesn't qualify to buy them > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>No, I'm not making these up. Yes, his product seems attractive, but > >> >>for me, his general demeanor online would scare me away. > >> > > >> >LOL. You're a real quality guy Jonny boy. A bit of embellishment, don= t ya > >> >think? > >> > > >> >I dont think people on this list are dumb enough to believe that > because we > >> >dont supply source that I think ISPs are pirates, or because I believ= e > that > >> >ISPs that block mail indescriminately are in the wrong that they shou= ld be > >> >thrown in the slammer, or that I dont think that ISPs are my customer= base > >> >(MOST of my customers are ISPs...I just said that the inet-access is = a > list > >> >for ciscoheads and are not likely to buy anything from me). If you're > going > >> >to exaggerate so substantially at least try to make it believable for > >> >pete's sake! > >> > > >> >Dennis > >> >Emerging Technologies, Inc. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >http://www.etinc.com > >> >ISA and PCI T1/T3/V35/HSSI Cards for FreeBSD and LINUX > >> >HSSI/T3 UNIX-based Routers > >> >Bandwidth Manager > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >http://www.etinc.com/bwmgr.htm > >> > > >> > > >> >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >> >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > >> > > >> > > >> > >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > >-- > >Ronald Wiplinger (=C3Q=A4=AF=AF=C7) http://www.trace.net.tw > >phone number =3D e-mail: > >e-mail: 0935869459@phonebook.com.tw or ronald@trace.net.tw > > > > > >Attachment Converted: "d:\eudorapgp\attach\ronald.vcf" > > >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 7:15:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from verdi.nethelp.no (verdi.nethelp.no [158.36.41.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4C3BF14EFB for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 07:15:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sthaug@nethelp.no) Received: (qmail 14985 invoked by uid 1001); 15 Jul 1999 14:14:42 +0000 (GMT) To: randyk@ccsales.com Cc: ronald@trace.net.tw, dennis@etinc.com, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? From: sthaug@nethelp.no In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 15 Jul 1999 06:47:49 -0700" References: <3.0.5.32.19990715064749.00bd8750@ccsales.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.34.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 16:14:41 +0200 Message-ID: <14983.932048081@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Question, how are you able to do bandwidth limiting on your Cisco gear? CAR works well for us. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 7:54:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.connecticom.com (jupiter.connecticom.com [216.42.80.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CD7015574 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 07:54:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kitt-lists@connecticom.com) Received: from [192.168.1.40] (d185d058d.rochester.rr.com [24.93.5.141]) by mail.connecticom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06445 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:53:35 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kitt-lists@mail.connecticom.com Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:53:29 -0400 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Kitt Diebold Subject: sendmail virtusertable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi. I can't figure out how to get multiple recipients listed in the virtusertable. The closest I can get is to build multiple recipients in the /etc/aliases file, and then reference that alias in the virtusertable. Is there any way to handle multiple recipients in the virtusertable?? Thanks! -Kitt Netsville, Inc. 716 232-5670 mailto:kitt@netsville.com http://www.netsville.com [ pgp key available upon request ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 7:57: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C190015567 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 07:56:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from dbsys (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA09070; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:53:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907151453.KAA09070@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:47:36 -0400 To: sthaug@nethelp.no, randyk@ccsales.com From: Dennis Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? Cc: ronald@trace.net.tw, isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <14983.932048081@verdi.nethelp.no> References: <3.0.5.32.19990715064749.00bd8750@ccsales.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 04:14 PM 7/15/99 +0200, sthaug@nethelp.no wrote: >> Question, how are you able to do bandwidth limiting on your Cisco gear? > >CAR works well for us. That requires the "big cisco box", correct? I dont believe you can do efficient bandwidth management on ciscos unless you have the 75xx stuff. DB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 7:59:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1E215574 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 07:59:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from dbsys (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA09091 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:55:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907151455.KAA09091@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:49:52 -0400 To: isp@freebsd.org From: Dennis Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: References: <4.2.0.56.19990715100517.00a5bbd0@go2france.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 06:57 AM 7/15/99 -0600, you wrote: >try this address at lanmedia: Dave DePuy > >that's who we interacted with when we co-ordinated driver integration >into OpenBSD. I didn't do the driver integration, another person took >the NetBSD driver and ported it to OpenBSD. They got a free T1 card for >their efforts, don't know what the status of the T3 driver is. Currently >the driver only supports point to point, no support for frame. The >person who integrated the driver made some comment re: integrating sppp >support into OpenBSD in order to support frame. Since FreeBSD has sppp >already should make it easier. well sppp and frame are different animals, at least they SHOULD be. BTW: We've recently implemented Frame bridging (ala ADSL)...and are looking for test sites for both T1 and T3 installations. Dennis Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com ISA and PCI T1/T3/V35/HSSI Cards for FreeBSD and LINUX HSSI/T3 UNIX-based Routers Bandwidth Manager http://www.etinc.com/bwmgr.htm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 8: 1:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mel.alcatel.fr (mel.alcatel.fr [212.208.74.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D8B15574 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 08:01:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Stephane.Lentz@ansf.alcatel.fr) Received: from aifhs2.alcatel.fr (mailhub.alcatel.fr [155.132.180.80]) by mel.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP) with ESMTP id PAA19162; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 15:57:03 +0200 From: Stephane.Lentz@ansf.alcatel.fr Received: from nsfws7.ansf.alcatel.fr (nsfws7.ansf.alcatel.fr [155.132.195.132]) by aifhs2.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with ESMTP id QAA17330; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 16:54:42 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from angel@localhost) by nsfws7.ansf.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP) id RAA04819; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:00:12 +0200 Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:00:12 +0200 To: Kitt Diebold Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail virtusertable Message-ID: <19990715170012.A4814@nsfws7.ansf.alcatel.fr> Reply-To: Stephane.Lentz@ansf.alcatel.fr References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5us In-Reply-To: ; from Kitt Diebold on Thu, Jul 15, 1999 at 10:53:29AM -0400 Organization: Alcanet International Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well you can't have several recipients on the RHS. You have to use your alias file this way: ::virtusertable staff@mycompany.com us@localdomain.com ::aliases us: root, me@home.com, foo@foobar.com localdomain is one domain managed on your server (ie it is in Cw) Best regards Stephane. On Thu, Jul 15, 1999 at 10:53:29AM -0400, Kitt Diebold wrote: > Hi. > > I can't figure out how to get multiple recipients listed in the > virtusertable. The closest I can get is to build multiple recipients > in the /etc/aliases file, and then reference that alias in the > virtusertable. > > Is there any way to handle multiple recipients in the virtusertable?? > > Thanks! > > -Kitt > > Netsville, Inc. > 716 232-5670 > mailto:kitt@netsville.com > http://www.netsville.com > > [ pgp key available upon request ] > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 8: 5:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from verdi.nethelp.no (verdi.nethelp.no [158.36.41.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8629815574 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 08:05:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sthaug@nethelp.no) Received: (qmail 15802 invoked by uid 1001); 15 Jul 1999 15:03:52 +0000 (GMT) To: dennis@etinc.com Cc: randyk@ccsales.com, ronald@trace.net.tw, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? From: sthaug@nethelp.no In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:47:36 -0400" References: <199907151453.KAA09070@etinc.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.34.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:03:52 +0200 Message-ID: <15800.932051032@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >> Question, how are you able to do bandwidth limiting on your Cisco gear? > > > >CAR works well for us. > > That requires the "big cisco box", correct? I dont believe you can do > efficient bandwidth management on ciscos unless you have the 75xx stuff. We use it on 7500, 7200 and 4500/4700. Of course it uses some CPU, but this has never proven to be a problem for us so far. We use CAR mainly to limit incoming ICMP traffic, and to cap the bandwidth that student dorms and labs can use during daytime. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 8:23:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from host07.rwsystems.net (kasie.rwsystems.net [209.197.192.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5331557B for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 08:23:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwyatt@RWSystems.net) Received: from kasie.rwsystems.net([209.197.192.103]) (2335 bytes) by host07.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:50:37 -0500 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Dec-24) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:50:36 -0500 (CDT) From: James Wyatt To: Jon Rust Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 14 Jul 1999, Jon Rust wrote: > At 5:20 PM -0400 7/14/99, Dennis was again pimping his product: > >Dont pay too much attention to our list prices. The gov't is buying them at > > Don't pay too much attention to Dennis period. Browse through > archives of inet-access and you'll see what I mean. The other vendors > deserve more of your attention. Oh no, not the Dennis basher's club again! Next thing we'll be hearing from the guy who didn't get some screws and cheerful support and can't find a hardware store. If Dennis sold nothing but junk, he would be gone, but he isn't. He isn't Mr. Sunshine(tm) all the time, but his stuff works! > Some great "Dennisisms": Meaning "things I can't quote because it's what I think he meant", right? > - All ISPs are in the business of pirating software > > - No ISPs are potential customers of his > > - Any ISP that blocks spam should be sued and possibly thrown in > the slammer Here is where we disagree, I don't know what he was smoking... 8{( > - Anyone that is too stupid to figure out his products on their own with > no support, doesn't qualify to buy them > > No, I'm not making these up. Yes, his product seems attractive, but > for me, his general demeanor online would scare me away. But have you ever *used* his products? I agree he isn't always sunshine and is frequently condescending, but his products *really* work on FreeBSD and he has a technical clue. He might do well to hire a 'handler' for some of his more righteous customers. Most of them swear by his products from what I've seen. Some of them swear at him, then things go downhill... Like everyone else, I'm going to ask why this is getting started on this list again and that we move on to something else... Thanks - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 8:25:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.clipper.net (mailhost.clipper.net [207.109.253.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69BB21557C for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 08:25:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tim@clipper.net) Received: from localhost (tim@localhost) by mailhost.clipper.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA26959; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 08:23:13 -0700 Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 08:23:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Wolfe To: Dennis Cc: sthaug@nethelp.no, randyk@ccsales.com, ronald@trace.net.tw, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <199907151453.KAA09070@etinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, Dennis wrote: > At 04:14 PM 7/15/99 +0200, sthaug@nethelp.no wrote: > >> Question, how are you able to do bandwidth limiting on your Cisco gear? > > > >CAR works well for us. > > That requires the "big cisco box", correct? I dont believe you can do > efficient bandwidth management on ciscos unless you have the 75xx stuff. > I believe you can do traffic shaping on groups (matched by access lists) on Cisco's down to 26XX series. (Starting at about $2000, not expensive by any means).. I'm doing it fine on a 7206. Tim ============================================================= | Timothy M. Wolfe | Wireless Internet = Get Some | | Chief Network Engineer | 1.800.338.2629 tim@clipper.net | | ClipperNet Corporation | http://www.clipper.net/services/ | ============================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 8:29: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ccsales.com (ccsales.com [216.0.22.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D798014E68 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 08:28:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randyk@ccsales.com) Received: from rknt2 (joe.hiper.net [206.111.55.146]) by ccsales.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id IAA09566; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 08:29:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990715082824.04c78210@ccsales.com> X-Sender: randyk@ccsales.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 08:28:24 -0700 To: James Wyatt , Jon Rust From: "Randy A. Katz" Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Too late! Heard about the screws 3 minutes after the post...! This Internet business is great...a person can be built and broken in seconds! At 09:50 AM 7/15/99 -0500, James Wyatt wrote: >On Wed, 14 Jul 1999, Jon Rust wrote: >> At 5:20 PM -0400 7/14/99, Dennis was again pimping his product: >> >Dont pay too much attention to our list prices. The gov't is buying them at >> >> Don't pay too much attention to Dennis period. Browse through >> archives of inet-access and you'll see what I mean. The other vendors >> deserve more of your attention. > >Oh no, not the Dennis basher's club again! Next thing we'll be hearing >from the guy who didn't get some screws and cheerful support and can't >find a hardware store. If Dennis sold nothing but junk, he would be gone, >but he isn't. He isn't Mr. Sunshine(tm) all the time, but his stuff works! > >> Some great "Dennisisms": > >Meaning "things I can't quote because it's what I think he meant", right? > >> - All ISPs are in the business of pirating software >> >> - No ISPs are potential customers of his >> >> - Any ISP that blocks spam should be sued and possibly thrown in >> the slammer > >Here is where we disagree, I don't know what he was smoking... 8{( > >> - Anyone that is too stupid to figure out his products on their own with >> no support, doesn't qualify to buy them >> >> No, I'm not making these up. Yes, his product seems attractive, but >> for me, his general demeanor online would scare me away. > >But have you ever *used* his products? I agree he isn't always sunshine >and is frequently condescending, but his products *really* work on FreeBSD >and he has a technical clue. He might do well to hire a 'handler' for some >of his more righteous customers. Most of them swear by his products from >what I've seen. Some of them swear at him, then things go downhill... > >Like everyone else, I'm going to ask why this is getting started on this >list again and that we move on to something else... Thanks - Jy@ > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 8:53:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from host07.rwsystems.net (kasie.rwsystems.net [209.197.192.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F69150F2 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 08:53:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwyatt@RWSystems.net) Received: from kasie.rwsystems.net([209.197.192.103]) (1183 bytes) by host07.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:18:56 -0500 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Dec-24) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:18:56 -0500 (CDT) From: James Wyatt To: rcramer@sytex.net Cc: Len Conrad , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ariel RS2000 and FBSD In-Reply-To: <199907150011.UAA32611@cscfx.sytex.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 14 Jul 1999 rcramer@sytex.net wrote: > We are currently developing the RAS Software for the Ariel Board. Will > keep you informed of progress. Cool, can your sales guy *please* leave me alone until you get it supporting radius on FreeBSD? Teach him what 'no' means. I also don't understand how your answer fits his question. Are you going to do RAS under FreeBSD? Are you sticking to Windows only? (Either is OK, of course, I just didn't understand the answer.) The Ariel board looks like a nice chunk of hardware, I'd like to see support for it in BSD land... - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 8:56:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pleb.cs.uct.ac.za (pleb.cs.uct.ac.za [137.158.132.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8504715585 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 08:56:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khetan@link.freebsd.os.org.za) X-Disclaimer: Contents of this e-mail are the writer's opinion X-Disclaimer2: and may not be quoted, re-produced or forwarded X-Disclaimer3: (in part or whole) without the author's permission. Received: from localhost (khetan@localhost) by pleb.cs.uct.ac.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA05012; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:55:23 +0200 (SAT) (envelope-from khetan@link.freebsd.os.org.za) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:55:22 +0200 (SAT) From: Khetan Gajjar X-Sender: khetan@pleb.cs.uct.ac.za Reply-To: Khetan Gajjar To: Stephane.Lentz@ansf.alcatel.fr Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail virtusertable In-Reply-To: <19990715170012.A4814@nsfws7.ansf.alcatel.fr> Message-ID: X-Mobile: +27 82 9907663 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 15 Jul 1999 Stephane.Lentz@ansf.alcatel.fr wrote: >::virtusertable >staff@mycompany.com us@localdomain.com > >::aliases >us: root, me@home.com, foo@foobar.com I faced the same problem, because I wanted users to manage their own domain e-mail on my box (and if possible, hack webmin so that they don't require shell a/c's or anything more than the ability to click). What I did was created a set of alias files for each domain, and allowed the appropriate users rights to edit those files and rebuild them. As it stands right now, because I partially trust the users (there are only 4), they all have read/write access to the master virtusertable, but it would be trivial to create multiple input virtusertables, cat them together to create the master inputfile and rebuild the database periodically. The same goes for the aliases, I suppose. Does anyone have another (better) way of doing this (and do not suggest another MTA ;-) Eg. Currently : a.co.za.alias writeable and readable by user a (manual) b.co.za.alias writeable and readable by user b (manual) a.co.za.alias and b.co.za.alias are defined in /etc/sendmail.cf seperately (not a performance issue for two or three files, I'd imagine) virtusertable.inputfile writeable and readable by user a and b, and they can generate virtusertable.db (manual) Preferred : a.co.za.alias and a.co.za.virtusertable writeable and readable by user a b.co.za.alias and b.co.za.virtusertable writeable and readable by user b master.alias defined in /etc/sendmail.cf cat a.co.za.alias b.co.za.alias > master.alias (cronned) cat a.co.za.virtusertable b.co.za.virtusertable > master.virtusertable (cronned) makemap hash virtusertable < master.virtusertable (cronned) --- Khetan Gajjar (!kg1779) * khetan@iafrica.com ; khetan@os.org.za http://www.os.org.za/~khetan * Talk/Finger khetan@chain.freebsd.os.org.za FreeBSD enthusiast * http://www2.za.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 9: 5:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ts.shopnet.com (ts.shopnet.com [208.131.136.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0AE51557E for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:04:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from deichert@wildponies.org) Received: (from deichert@localhost) by ts.shopnet.com (8.8.4/8.6.12) id KAA15288; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:06:42 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:06:42 -0600 (MDT) From: Diana Eichert X-Sender: deichert@ts.shopnet.com To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <199907151455.KAA09091@etinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Like I said Dennis, I wasn't the driver porter. I'm only repeating what they told me. BTW, I also have used the ETinc. cards at my previous employment, they worked. diana On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, Dennis wrote: > At 06:57 AM 7/15/99 -0600, you wrote: > > well sppp and frame are different animals, at least they SHOULD be. > > BTW: We've recently implemented Frame bridging (ala ADSL)...and are looking > for test sites for both T1 and T3 installations. > > Dennis > > Emerging Technologies, Inc. > > > > > http://www.etinc.com > ISA and PCI T1/T3/V35/HSSI Cards for FreeBSD and LINUX > HSSI/T3 UNIX-based Routers > Bandwidth Manager > > > > http://www.etinc.com/bwmgr.htm > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > Diana Eichert deichert@wrench.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 9:14:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.go2france.com (go2france.com [209.51.193.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 035F61557E for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:14:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Received: from superviseur [62.161.63.210] by mail.go2france.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.03) id A4212C900A2; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:45:53 EDT Message-Id: <4.2.0.56.19990715180550.00a45590@go2france.com> X-Sender: lconrad@go2france.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.56 (Beta) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 18:08:20 +0200 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad Subject: Re: Ariel RS2000 and FBSD In-Reply-To: References: <199907150011.UAA32611@cscfx.sytex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I found a guy in Ireland who's interested in writing the FreeBSD driver for the RS2000. I gave him my contact at Ariel/Deutschland and he's trying to organize SDK sources, board sample, etc, etc. I might be able to do PRI/E1 testing here in Paris this autumn. Len To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 9:25:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.vcnet.com (mail.vcnet.com [209.239.239.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 340CD155A3 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:25:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jpr@vcnet.com) Received: from [209.239.239.22] by mail.vcnet.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 0-39954U2500L250S0) with ESMTP id AAA20416 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:25:10 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199907150051.UAA06875@etinc.com> References: <199907142226.SAA06294@etinc.com> <199907141822.OAA11834@yaga.razorfish.com> <199907142226.SAA06294@etinc.com> <199907150051.UAA06875@etinc.com> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:25:12 -0700 To: isp@freebsd.org From: Jon Rust Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Deja.com is great for this. It's too bad inet-access stopped being fed to it, or you could see some of the latest Dennisisms, including some of those I referenced. There's plenty there, however, to illustrate my point. http://www.deja.com/[ST_rn=ps]/profile.xp?author=dennis@etinc.com%20(Dennis)&ST=PS Jon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 9:54:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C8031558F for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:54:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B5929B01; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:53:12 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <378E123D.35210708@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:54:21 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Khetan Gajjar Cc: Stephane.Lentz@ansf.alcatel.fr, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail virtusertable References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > As it stands right now, because I partially trust the users > (there are only 4), they all have read/write access to the > master virtusertable, but it would be trivial to create > multiple input virtusertables, cat them together to create the > master inputfile and rebuild the database periodically. If you dig through the archives of this list, you'll find a discussion on this, basically, if you can't trust your users you need to do a little sanity checking. "cat | grep '@allowed-domain.com '" should show what I mean, although you would really want something more robust than this (far too easy to break :-) I would also recommend building your db files to a new file, and check they have built OK before using them for real (at very least make sure they're not zero bytes). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 11:19: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from freesbee.t.dk (freesbee.t.dk [193.162.159.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6342114E7A for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 11:18:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesper@freesbee.t.dk) Received: (qmail 4960 invoked by uid 1001); 15 Jul 1999 18:18:23 -0000 Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 20:18:23 +0200 From: Jesper Skriver To: Dennis Cc: sthaug@nethelp.no, randyk@ccsales.com, ronald@trace.net.tw, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? Message-ID: <19990715201823.A4947@skriver.dk> References: <14983.932048081@verdi.nethelp.no> <199907151453.KAA09070@etinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.2i In-Reply-To: <199907151453.KAA09070@etinc.com>; from Dennis on Thu, Jul 15, 1999 at 09:47:36AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jul 15, 1999 at 09:47:36AM -0400, Dennis wrote: > At 04:14 PM 7/15/99 +0200, sthaug@nethelp.no wrote: > >> Question, how are you able to do bandwidth limiting on your Cisco gear? > > > >CAR works well for us. > > That requires the "big cisco box", correct? I dont believe you can do > efficient bandwidth management on ciscos unless you have the 75xx stuff. Car is supported in 11.1(x)CC (that is supported on RSP7000, 7200 and 7500), and in 12.0 on most platforms. /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver (JS4261-RIPE), Network manager Tele Danmark DataNet, IP section (AS3292) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 12:29:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from loki.intrepid.net (intrepid.net [204.71.127.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B89215179 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 12:29:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@loki.intrepid.net) Received: (from mark@localhost) by loki.intrepid.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA04776; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 15:28:58 -0400 Message-ID: <19990715152858.B3549@intrepid.net> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 15:28:58 -0400 From: Mark Conway Wirt To: Kitt Diebold , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail virtusertable References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: ; from Kitt Diebold on Thu, Jul 15, 1999 at 10:53:29AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org That's how we do it. It's a bit inconvenient, but it works... --Mark On Thu, Jul 15, 1999 at 10:53:29AM -0400, Kitt Diebold wrote: > Hi. > > I can't figure out how to get multiple recipients listed in the > virtusertable. The closest I can get is to build multiple recipients > in the /etc/aliases file, and then reference that alias in the > virtusertable. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 13:23:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from zoe.iserve.net (zoe.iserve.net [207.250.219.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B6015610 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:23:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rch@iserve.net) Received: from acidic (acidic.iserve.net [207.250.219.40]) by zoe.iserve.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA04054; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 15:22:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199907152022.PAA04054@zoe.iserve.net> X-Sender: rch@iserve.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 15:24:50 -0500 To: Kitt Diebold , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Robert Hough Subject: Re: sendmail virtusertable In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 10:53 AM 7/15/99 -0400, Kitt Diebold wrote: >I can't figure out how to get multiple recipients listed in the >virtusertable. The closest I can get is to build multiple recipients >in the /etc/aliases file, and then reference that alias in the >virtusertable. I think thats the only way to do it. Have you considered switching to something else? I switched one of our servers from sendmail to postfix in about 30 minutes today, and so far I'm really digging it. You can setup multiple recipients in it pretty easily. user@virtual.domain address1, address2, address3 Just a thought. I was pretty amazed at how easily I had it setup, I thought for sure I was going to end up breaking something. :) __ _______ |__| __|.-----.----.--.--.-----. .--------------------------------. | |__ || -__| _| | | -__| | Robert Hough (rch@iserve.net) | |__|_______||_____|__| \___/|_____| | 317-802-3036 -/- 317-876-0846 | ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 13:42:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from venus.GAIANET.NET (venus.GAIANET.NET [207.211.200.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7742155CC for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:42:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@venus.GAIANET.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by venus.GAIANET.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA01453; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:39:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@venus.GAIANET.NET) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:39:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Vincent Poy To: Robert Hough Cc: Kitt Diebold , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail virtusertable In-Reply-To: <199907152022.PAA04054@zoe.iserve.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, Robert Hough wrote: > At 10:53 AM 7/15/99 -0400, Kitt Diebold wrote: > >I can't figure out how to get multiple recipients listed in the > >virtusertable. The closest I can get is to build multiple recipients > >in the /etc/aliases file, and then reference that alias in the > >virtusertable. > > I think thats the only way to do it. Have you considered switching to > something else? I switched one of our servers from sendmail to postfix in > about 30 minutes today, and so far I'm really digging it. You can setup > multiple recipients in it pretty easily. > > user@virtual.domain address1, address2, address3 > > Just a thought. I was pretty amazed at how easily I had it setup, I thought > for sure I was going to end up breaking something. :) We're using sendmail and there seems to be a problem for one domain in sendmail virtusertable. The machines name is pele.WURLDLINK.NET and the domain is pager.WURLDLINK.NET that we want the virtusertable to goto... sendmail mail to vince@pager.WURLDLINK.NET goes to the local mailbox vince on the local machine... I built the database and every other virtual domain is fine except this one... This is from the virtusertable. vince@pager.WURLDLINK.NET page-vince@WURLDLINK.NET In /etc/aliases, I have the following line that I did newaliases on, I'm just wondering what i'm doing wrong... page-vince: "| /usr/local/bin/mail2page.pl vince" Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 15:10:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1097815179 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 15:10:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3/Kp) with ESMTP id XAA94511; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:09:59 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <378E5C12.4C99CF5D@tdx.co.uk> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:09:22 +0100 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX - The Digital eXchange X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vincent Poy Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail virtusertable References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Vincent Poy wrote: > > This is from the virtusertable. > > vince@pager.WURLDLINK.NET page-vince@WURLDLINK.NET > > In /etc/aliases, I have the following line that I did newaliases on, I'm > just wondering what i'm doing wrong... www.sendmail.org - is probably a better place for Sendmail support? :-) With the above, shouldn't it be... vince@pager.WURLDLINK.NET page-vince (If page-vince is a local account / listed in /etc/aliases etc. on _that same_ machine) >we want the virtusertable to >goto... sendmail mail to vince@pager.WURLDLINK.NET goes to the local >mailbox vince on the local machine... I built the database and every >other virtual domain is fine except this one... Either it's too late at night, or I'm not reading the above very well - it seems to be the opposite of what you were saying / configuring for? Time for zzZzzZz... :) -Kp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 16:29:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from venus.GAIANET.NET (venus.GAIANET.NET [207.211.200.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C6914D8A for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 16:29:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@venus.GAIANET.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by venus.GAIANET.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA02553; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 16:29:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@venus.GAIANET.NET) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 16:29:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Vincent Poy To: Karl Pielorz Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail virtusertable In-Reply-To: <378E5C12.4C99CF5D@tdx.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, Karl Pielorz wrote: > Vincent Poy wrote: > > > > > This is from the virtusertable. > > > > vince@pager.WURLDLINK.NET page-vince@WURLDLINK.NET > > > > In /etc/aliases, I have the following line that I did newaliases on, I'm > > just wondering what i'm doing wrong... > > www.sendmail.org - is probably a better place for Sendmail support? :-) Yeah but I don't think they do support anymore after sendmail went commercial. > With the above, shouldn't it be... > > vince@pager.WURLDLINK.NET page-vince I tried that before but it didn't work either. The problem is that it seems to not see the virtualtable and just goes straight to the account vince instead... It doesn't seem to even read the page-vince alias in /etc/aliases. > (If page-vince is a local account / listed in /etc/aliases etc. on _that same_ > machine) > > >we want the virtusertable to > >goto... sendmail mail to vince@pager.WURLDLINK.NET goes to the local > >mailbox vince on the local machine... I built the database and every > >other virtual domain is fine except this one... > > Either it's too late at night, or I'm not reading the above very well - it > seems to be the opposite of what you were saying / configuring for? Time for > zzZzzZz... :) Nope, the machine is known as pager.WURLDLINK.NET for the email/pager service and it's supposed to redirect to the /etc/aliases where it goes to a script. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 17:59:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.trace.net.tw (mail.trace.net.tw [202.80.128.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BF1714FC6 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:58:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ronald@trace.net.tw) X-Comments: ****** Message sent through an Trace account ****** X-http: ****** http://www.trace.com.tw ****** Received: from trace.net.tw (engineer.trace.net.tw [202.80.128.82]) by mail.trace.net.tw (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id IAA28452; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 08:58:01 +0800 Message-ID: <378E851D.83CB4DE@trace.net.tw> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 09:04:29 +0800 From: Ronald Wiplinger Organization: Wang's Trace Tech. Enterprise Co., Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-TW MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Randy A. Katz" Cc: James Wyatt , Jon Rust , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? References: <3.0.5.32.19990715082824.04c78210@ccsales.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------1C3B2EE13069F06B2BFFCE59" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------1C3B2EE13069F06B2BFFCE59 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit "Randy A. Katz" wrote: > Too late! Heard about the screws 3 minutes after the post...! This Internet > business is great...a person can be built and broken in seconds! Dennis is still in business, takes already longer than seconds ;-) Dennis even mentioned that the screws may be have been stolen from Fedex, ... > > > At 09:50 AM 7/15/99 -0500, James Wyatt wrote: > >On Wed, 14 Jul 1999, Jon Rust wrote: > >> At 5:20 PM -0400 7/14/99, Dennis was again pimping his product: > >> >Dont pay too much attention to our list prices. The gov't is buying > them at > >> > >> Don't pay too much attention to Dennis period. Browse through > >> archives of inet-access and you'll see what I mean. The other vendors > >> deserve more of your attention. > > > >Oh no, not the Dennis basher's club again! Next thing we'll be hearing > >from the guy who didn't get some screws and cheerful support and can't > >find a hardware store. If Dennis sold nothing but junk, he would be gone, > >but he isn't. He isn't Mr. Sunshine(tm) all the time, but his stuff works! > > > >> Some great "Dennisisms": > > > >Meaning "things I can't quote because it's what I think he meant", right? > > > >> - All ISPs are in the business of pirating software > >> > >> - No ISPs are potential customers of his > >> > >> - Any ISP that blocks spam should be sued and possibly thrown in > >> the slammer > > > >Here is where we disagree, I don't know what he was smoking... 8{( > > > >> - Anyone that is too stupid to figure out his products on their own with > >> no support, doesn't qualify to buy them > >> > >> No, I'm not making these up. Yes, his product seems attractive, but > >> for me, his general demeanor online would scare me away. > > > >But have you ever *used* his products? I agree he isn't always sunshine > >and is frequently condescending, but his products *really* work on FreeBSD > >and he has a technical clue. He might do well to hire a 'handler' for some > >of his more righteous customers. Most of them swear by his products from > >what I've seen. Some of them swear at him, then things go downhill... > > > >Like everyone else, I'm going to ask why this is getting started on this > >list again and that we move on to something else... Thanks - Jy@ > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Ronald Wiplinger (ÃQ¤¯¯Ç) http://www.trace.net.tw phone number = e-mail: e-mail: 0935869459@phonebook.com.tw or ronald@trace.net.tw --------------1C3B2EE13069F06B2BFFCE59 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="ronald.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Ronald Wiplinger Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ronald.vcf" begin:vcard n:Wiplinger;Ronald tel;pager:0943-154953 tel;cell:0935-869459 tel;fax:2600-0132 tel;home:2609-0652 ext. 80 tel;work:2609-0652 ext. 12 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:www.trace.net.tw org:Wang's Trace Tech. 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Manager fn:Ronald Wiplinger end:vcard --------------1C3B2EE13069F06B2BFFCE59-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 18:35:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cscfx.sytex.com (cscfx.sytex.com [205.147.190.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 40B7414EC7 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 18:35:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rwc@sytex.net) Received: (from rwc@localhost) by cscfx.sytex.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id VAA03787; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:26:43 -0400 Message-Id: <199907160126.VAA03787@cscfx.sytex.com> Subject: Re: Ariel RS2000 and FBSD To: jwyatt@RWSystems.net (James Wyatt) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:26:41 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "James Wyatt" at Jul 15, 99 10:18:56 am From: rcramer@sytex.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1411 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > On Wed, 14 Jul 1999 rcramer@sytex.net wrote: > > We are currently developing the RAS Software for the Ariel Board. Will > > keep you informed of progress. > > Cool, can your sales guy *please* leave me alone until you get it > supporting radius on FreeBSD? Teach him what 'no' means. I also don't > understand how your answer fits his question. Are you going to do RAS > under FreeBSD? Are you sticking to Windows only? (Either is OK, of course, > I just didn't understand the answer.) Jy, Based on your response, as I read it, you will be probably the last I let know. A "sales guy" did not answer your email I did. "Leave you alone", most certainly! However do not then post querries to the FreeBSD lists! In reference to your questions my read of your email says you do not want to know anything until it is fully operational. In reference to Windows, you posed a question on a FreeBSD list, about a board that you wanted to run under FreeBSD, and the subject of my response was RS2000 and FreeBSD. How does one extrapolate to Windows? Retorical, do not anwser! FYI I am a technical engineer, and the President of Sytex Access Ltd, and the Founder and Organizer of the FreeBSD User Group in Metropolitan Washington DC, USA. RC -- Richard Cramer rcramer@sytex.net Phone: 703-425-2515 President Fax: 703-425-4585 SytexNet(tm) Sytex Access Ltd. POB 2385, Fairfax, VA 22031-0385 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 19: 0:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ethel.basspro.com (mail.basspro.com [12.14.224.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D76E155B6 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 19:00:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from troyk@basspro.com) Received: from dial1.basspro.com by ethel.basspro.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/29Jan96-0343PM) id AA17452; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:01:20 -0500 Message-Id: <378E929E.1034838C@basspro.com> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:02:06 -0500 From: Troy Kittrell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ariel RS2000 and FBSD References: <199907160126.VAA03787@cscfx.sytex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can we move this to freebsd-vendor-religion@freebsd.org? jeez! rcramer@sytex.net wrote: > > > On Wed, 14 Jul 1999 rcramer@sytex.net wrote: > > > We are currently developing the RAS Software for the Ariel Board. Will > > > keep you informed of progress. > > > > Cool, can your sales guy *please* leave me alone until you get it > > supporting radius on FreeBSD? Teach him what 'no' means. I also don't > > understand how your answer fits his question. Are you going to do RAS > > under FreeBSD? Are you sticking to Windows only? (Either is OK, of course, > > I just didn't understand the answer.) > > Jy, > > Based on your response, as I read it, you will be probably the last I > let know. A "sales guy" did not answer your email I did. "Leave you > alone", most certainly! However do not then post querries to the FreeBSD > lists! In reference to your questions my read of your email says you > do not want to know anything until it is fully operational. > > In reference to Windows, you posed a question on a FreeBSD list, about a > board that you wanted to run under FreeBSD, and the subject of my response > was RS2000 and FreeBSD. How does one extrapolate to Windows? Retorical, > do not anwser! > > FYI I am a technical engineer, and the President of Sytex Access Ltd, and > the Founder and Organizer of the FreeBSD User Group in Metropolitan > Washington DC, USA. > > RC > > -- > Richard Cramer rcramer@sytex.net Phone: 703-425-2515 > President Fax: 703-425-4585 > SytexNet(tm) Sytex Access Ltd. POB 2385, Fairfax, VA 22031-0385 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 20:48:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.shianet.org (alpha.shianet.org [205.138.41.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A33E14FE8 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 20:48:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wrath@shianet.org) Received: from WRATH01 (port56.owosso03.tir.com [216.40.132.185]) by alpha.shianet.org (8.9.1/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA26778; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:44:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <007501becf46$85554190$b98428d8@wrath.wrath.net> From: "Brian" To: "James Wyatt" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:46:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: James Wyatt To: Jon Rust Cc: Sent: Thursday, July 15, 1999 9:50 AM Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? | On Wed, 14 Jul 1999, Jon Rust wrote: | > At 5:20 PM -0400 7/14/99, Dennis was again pimping his product: | > >Dont pay too much attention to our list prices. The gov't is buying them at | > | > Don't pay too much attention to Dennis period. Browse through | > archives of inet-access and you'll see what I mean. The other vendors | > deserve more of your attention. | | Oh no, not the Dennis basher's club again! Next thing we'll be hearing | from the guy who didn't get some screws and cheerful support and can't | find a hardware store. If Dennis sold nothing but junk, he would be gone, | but he isn't. He isn't Mr. Sunshine(tm) all the time, but his stuff works! | I have a question, does he get any repeat business or is everyone trying to dump his hardware and invest in some high-end "criscos"? | > Some great "Dennisisms": | | Meaning "things I can't quote because it's what I think he meant", right? | | > - All ISPs are in the business of pirating software | > | > - No ISPs are potential customers of his | > | > - Any ISP that blocks spam should be sued and possibly thrown in | > the slammer | | Here is where we disagree, I don't know what he was smoking... 8{( | | > - Anyone that is too stupid to figure out his products on their own with | > no support, doesn't qualify to buy them | > | > No, I'm not making these up. Yes, his product seems attractive, but | > for me, his general demeanor online would scare me away. | | But have you ever *used* his products? I agree he isn't always sunshine | and is frequently condescending, but his products *really* work on FreeBSD | and he has a technical clue. He might do well to hire a 'handler' for some | of his more righteous customers. Most of them swear by his products from | what I've seen. Some of them swear at him, then things go downhill... | | Like everyone else, I'm going to ask why this is getting started on this | list again and that we move on to something else... Thanks - Jy@ | | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org | with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 23:56:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from host07.rwsystems.net (kasie.rwsystems.net [209.197.192.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 971F814C11 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:56:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwyatt@RWSystems.net) Received: from kasie.rwsystems.net([209.197.192.103]) (1009 bytes) by host07.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 14:22:58 -0500 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Dec-24) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 14:22:57 -0500 (CDT) From: James Wyatt Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, Jon Rust wrote: > Deja.com is great for this. It's too bad inet-access stopped being fed to it, > or you could see some of the latest Dennisisms, including some of those I > referenced. There's plenty there, however, to illustrate my point. > > http://www.deja.com/[ST_rn=ps]/profile.xp?author=dennis@etinc.com%20(Dennis)&ST=PS Perfect! Educational, clear, concise, and authoritative, yet devoid of whining, or authoritarian smack. Archives can come back to get you... - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 15 23:57:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from host07.rwsystems.net (kasie.rwsystems.net [209.197.192.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7486E14CE7 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:57:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwyatt@RWSystems.net) Received: from kasie.rwsystems.net([209.197.192.103]) (4531 bytes) by host07.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 01:17:13 -0500 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Dec-24) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 01:17:13 -0500 (CDT) From: James Wyatt To: rcramer@sytex.net Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ariel RS2000 and FBSD In-Reply-To: <199907160126.VAA03787@cscfx.sytex.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 15 Jul 1999 rcramer@sytex.net wrote: > > > On Wed, 14 Jul 1999 rcramer@sytex.net wrote: > > > We are currently developing the RAS Software for the Ariel Board. Will > > > keep you informed of progress. > > > > Cool, can your sales guy *please* leave me alone until you get it > > supporting radius on FreeBSD? Teach him what 'no' means. I also don't > > understand how your answer fits his question. Are you going to do RAS > > under FreeBSD? Are you sticking to Windows only? (Either is OK, of course, > > I just didn't understand the answer.) > > Jy, FWIW: Uh, That is J Y@ (as in J(ames) Wy-at(t), though it isn't too obvious. 8{( I've always wanted to have a font with a 'y' in the middle of the '@', rather than an 'a'. Looks like an odd cattle brand as a .GIF... > Based on your response, as I read it, you will be probably the last I > let know. A "sales guy" did not answer your email I did. "Leave you > alone", most certainly! However do not then post querries to the FreeBSD > lists! In reference to your questions my read of your email says you > do not want to know anything until it is fully operational. Please reread my response as I wasn't talking about your polite email responding to *someone else's question*, but the *seven* phone calls I have received since asking for some documentation by snail-mail. I have told him we do NT clients, not servers for dialup and he won't quit. The original mailing filled my every need and I appreciated it. Now I keep getting told that RAS is *so* much better than PPP because it can do NetBEUI, etc... because "...it is based on Windows". Uh, right... The guy on the phone just doesn't get that *he* 1) won't convert me to using NT servers for dialup support, and 2) likely won't sell a good product here even when/if it is offered on FreeBSD (or Linux) at this point. > In reference to Windows, you posed a question on a FreeBSD list, about a > board that you wanted to run under FreeBSD, and the subject of my response > was RS2000 and FreeBSD. How does one extrapolate to Windows? Retorical, > do not anwser! In reference to accuracy, *I* did not pose a question; "Len Conrad" was "fishing around availability of the Ariel PRI RS2000 card under fbsd" in message <4.2.0.56.19990714203040.02d640b0@go2france.com>. You popped-up with a seeming non-sequitur of "We are currently developing RAS software for the Ariel Board.", never mentioning FreeBSD, just RAS and Ariel. I then mistook you for someone who might work with Ariel folks and get them to stop calling. I also missed where RAS was a non-Windows layer as far as Ariel was concerned - remember the fool who has been calling me... Can you *please* educate me/us on the Unix RAS stuff you are working on? The board looks great, given some drivers and support! And why shouldn't I answer when I have done more research? (and maybe more spell-checking) 8{( > FYI I am a technical engineer, and the President of Sytex Access Ltd, and > the Founder and Organizer of the FreeBSD User Group in Metropolitan > Washington DC, USA. I got the President part from your .sig, but not the FreeBSD part. (fwiw: I've always wondered what living in DC area would be like, I could live at the Smithsonian) I apologize for taking you as an Ariel employee and being confused at seeing RAS and Unix so close together. You never answered my question about RAS on FreeBSD - it wasn't rhetorical, but genuine. Can you see where I might extrapolate it to Windows? I can't see how you can get Len and me confused, we don't look alike at all... 8{) I appreciate the time you took in researching and responding, and I *would* have great interest in an inexpensive board that handled dual T1s for dialup under FreeBSD via PCI. If it did radius and *talked to* NT/98/etc clients well, all the better! We have taken-on beta products before (incl. Chicago/Cairo/Merlin/smail), so it doesn't even have to be fully finished. Take care and have fun - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 16 7:46:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B342215683 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 07:46:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from workstation.etinc.com (port18.netsvr1.cst.vastnet.net [207.252.73.18]) by etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA13932; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:42:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907161442.KAA13932@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@mail.etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 22:53:34 -0400 To: James Wyatt From: Dennis Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? Cc: isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 02:22 PM 7/15/99 -0500, you wrote: >On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, Jon Rust wrote: >> Deja.com is great for this. It's too bad inet-access stopped being fed to it, >> or you could see some of the latest Dennisisms, including some of those I >> referenced. There's plenty there, however, to illustrate my point. >> >> http://www.deja.com/[ST_rn=ps]/profile.xp?author=dennis@etinc.com%20(Dennis) &ST=PS > >Perfect! Educational, clear, concise, and authoritative, yet devoid of >whining, or authoritarian smack. Archives can come back to get you... - Jy@ > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message Its really too bad that some of you are more interested in this then the technical merits of this discussion. I guess you're more capable of understanding it. Its also too bad (but not surprising) that you have nothing positive to contribute. DB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 16 8:30:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB1A1569D for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 08:30:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13FCD9B17; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:30:12 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <378F5049.785E0DB@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:31:21 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dennis Cc: James Wyatt , isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? References: <199907161442.KAA13932@etinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Its really too bad that some of you are more interested in this > then the technical merits of this discussion. Okay then :-) Bearing in mind the environment cards like this are normally used in, is there any means of hotswapping this type of device like there would be with much of the dedicated router hardware? Stuart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 16 8:43: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.go2france.com (go2france.com [209.51.193.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B85015687 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 08:43:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lconrad@Go2France.com) Received: from superviseur [62.161.63.210] by mail.go2france.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.03) id AE961DA400A0; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:15:50 EDT Message-Id: <4.2.0.56.19990716173533.02c18c60@go2france.com> X-Sender: lconrad@go2france.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.56 (Beta) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 17:40:48 +0200 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <378F5049.785E0DB@eclipse.net.uk> References: <199907161442.KAA13932@etinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_27675955==_.ALT" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --=====================_27675955==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed www.lanmedia.com has HSSI-to-CompactPCI interface cards with hotswap. see: http://www.lanmedia.com/prod09.htm Putting together a hotswap PCI mainframe is another issue I'd like to see discussed in the FreeBSD-as-border-router area. Len =========== >Okay then :-) Bearing in mind the environment cards like this >are normally used in, is there any means of hotswapping this type >of device like there would be with much of the dedicated router >hardware? --=====================_27675955==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" www.lanmedia.com has HSSI-to-CompactPCI interface cards with hotswap.   see:

http://www.lanmedia.com/prod09.htm

Putting together a hotswap PCI mainframe is another issue I'd like to see discussed in the FreeBSD-as-border-router area.


Len

===========

Okay then :-)  Bearing in mind the environment cards like this
are normally used in, is there any means of hotswapping this type
of device like there would be with much of the dedicated router
hardware?
--=====================_27675955==_.ALT-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 16 9:18:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8910614C10 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 09:18:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from dbsys (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA14233 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:15:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907161615.MAA14233@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:10:23 -0400 To: isp@freebsd.org From: Dennis Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: References: <199907150051.UAA06875@etinc.com> <199907142226.SAA06294@etinc.com> <199907141822.OAA11834@yaga.razorfish.com> <199907142226.SAA06294@etinc.com> <199907150051.UAA06875@etinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 09:25 AM 7/15/99 -0700, you wrote: >Deja.com is great for this. It's too bad inet-access stopped being fed to it, >or you could see some of the latest Dennisisms, including some of those I >referenced. There's plenty there, however, to illustrate my point. > >http://www.deja.com/[ST_rn=ps]/profile.xp?author=dennis@etinc.com%20(Dennis )&ST=PS > >Jon At least there is context, unlike your ridiculous exagerated summery. I'm sure deja.com doesnt have any reference to any technical knowledge that you have though, does it? And whats funny is that people blame ME for this nonsense, when some people just see my name and have to start a flame war. Just part of the public experience I guess...theres white trash everywhere. Of course, it does create a dilihema. If you dont want to deal with me ask for Mark. Hes much nicer than I am, but he wont be able to help you as much. Dennis Dennis > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 16 9:30:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E7B14C4F for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 09:30:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from dbsys (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA14289 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:27:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907161627.MAA14289@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:22:38 -0400 To: isp@freebsd.org From: Dennis Subject: Re: Any experience with T3/HSSI cards and FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.56.19990716173533.02c18c60@go2france.com> References: <378F5049.785E0DB@eclipse.net.uk> <199907161442.KAA13932@etinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 05:40 PM 7/16/99 +0200, you wrote:=20 > > www.lanmedia.com has HSSI-to-CompactPCI= interface > cards with hotswap.=A0=A0 see: > > http://www.lanmedia.com/prod09.htm > > Putting together a hotswap PCI mainframe is another issue I'd like to see > discussed in the FreeBSD-as-border-router area. Ah, but measure that against our list of features (www.etinc.com/ethssi.htm#features= ) and see how they compare (plus they dont even use a real HDLC controller). Things like hot-swap may make a difference given equal products, but they= are far from equal. As you've learned with ethernet controllers, the hardware=20 helps, but the real issue is the software/drivers.=20 Dennis=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 16 10:52:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.prophetnetworks.net (mail.prophetnetworks.net [63.71.252.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9979314D80 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:52:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bvaughn@prophetnetworks.net) Received: from shell01.prophetnetworks.net (bvaughn@shell01.prophetnetworks.net [63.71.252.10]) by mail.prophetnetworks.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA34093 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:54:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bvaughn@prophetnetworks.net) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:50:47 -0500 (EST) From: Ben Vaughn To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: cistron and speed limiting? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, We use cistron radius as our radius type and I was wondering if anyone on this list has used this to successfully limit users speeds? We have a default entry for anyone who shows up in passwd, but since our access server is a digital one, a customer paying for 33.6k can use 56k or even isdn! We can set port-limit to 1 to remove the problem of people using 128k isdn, but we still cannot speed limit people. I am trying to make the default entry 33.6k only, while if someone is a 56k or isdn user, they have to have a separate entry in users to be able to use it. Have tried setting NAS-Port-Type but to no avail. Anybody have a clue? Thanks, Ben Vaughn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 16 10:56:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns3.zoomnet.net (ns3.zoomnet.net [206.230.102.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3184714D80 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:56:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cygone@zoomnet.net) Received: from windows (cygone.zoomnet.net [208.32.49.7]) by ns3.zoomnet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA03325; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:55:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <006f01becfb3$ea6907c0$0200000a@windows.cygone.com> From: "Mitch Vincent" To: "Ben Vaughn" Cc: Subject: Re: cistron and speed limiting? Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:52:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A 33.6 analog modem can't do ISDN or 56k.. It can only do.. Uhm.. 33.6 :-) -Mitch "When all your plans fail, backup, re-group and press on. The only real failure is quitting..." -----Original Message----- From: Ben Vaughn To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Friday, July 16, 1999 1:53 PM Subject: cistron and speed limiting? > Hello, > We use cistron radius as our radius type and I was wondering if >anyone on this list has used this to successfully limit users speeds? We >have a default entry for anyone who shows up in passwd, but since our >access server is a digital one, a customer paying for 33.6k can use 56k or >even isdn! We can set port-limit to 1 to remove the problem of people >using 128k isdn, but we still cannot speed limit people. I am trying to >make the default entry 33.6k only, while if someone is a 56k or isdn user, >they have to have a separate entry in users to be able to use it. Have >tried setting NAS-Port-Type but to no avail. Anybody have a clue? > > >Thanks, >Ben Vaughn > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 16 11: 0:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.mindspring.com (smtp3.mindspring.com [207.69.200.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518EB15301 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:00:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuyman@confusion.net) Received: from confusion.net (user-2iveag6.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.42.6]) by smtp3.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA07132; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:00:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <378F731C.8DC647AD@confusion.net> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:59:56 -0400 From: Laurence Berland Organization: B.R.A.T.T. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mitch Vincent Cc: Ben Vaughn , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cistron and speed limiting? References: <006f01becfb3$ea6907c0$0200000a@windows.cygone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think he means that a user can take an ISDN TA and hook it up to his computer and an isdn line and use the 33.6 account without paying extra, and it'll go up to ISDN speeds and whatnot, since he's using digital equipment at his end. Mitch Vincent wrote: > > A 33.6 analog modem can't do ISDN or 56k.. It can only do.. Uhm.. 33.6 :-) > > -Mitch > > "When all your plans fail, backup, re-group and press on. The only real > failure is quitting..." > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 16 11: 6:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns3.zoomnet.net (ns3.zoomnet.net [206.230.102.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CEBF15517 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:06:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cygone@zoomnet.net) Received: from windows (cygone.zoomnet.net [208.32.49.7]) by ns3.zoomnet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA29453; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:06:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <009d01becfb5$62a281c0$0200000a@windows.cygone.com> From: "Mitch Vincent" To: "Laurence Berland" Cc: Subject: Re: cistron and speed limiting? Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:02:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doh, I see what you mean.. You're probably right. -Mitch "When all your plans fail, backup, re-group and press on. The only real failure is quitting..." -----Original Message----- From: Laurence Berland To: Mitch Vincent Cc: Ben Vaughn ; freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Friday, July 16, 1999 2:00 PM Subject: Re: cistron and speed limiting? >I think he means that a user can take an ISDN TA and hook it up to his >computer and an isdn line and use the 33.6 account without paying extra, >and it'll go up to ISDN speeds and whatnot, since he's using digital >equipment at his end. > >Mitch Vincent wrote: >> >> A 33.6 analog modem can't do ISDN or 56k.. It can only do.. Uhm.. 33.6 :-) >> >> -Mitch >> >> "When all your plans fail, backup, re-group and press on. The only real >> failure is quitting..." >> >> > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 16 11:17:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.prophetnetworks.net (mail.prophetnetworks.net [63.71.252.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C7C156AD for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:17:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bvaughn@prophetnetworks.net) Received: from shell01.prophetnetworks.net (bvaughn@shell01.prophetnetworks.net [63.71.252.10]) by mail.prophetnetworks.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA34788; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:20:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bvaughn@prophetnetworks.net) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:16:30 -0500 (EST) From: Ben Vaughn To: Mitch Vincent Cc: Laurence Berland , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cistron and speed limiting? In-Reply-To: <009d01becfb5$62a281c0$0200000a@windows.cygone.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Guys, Indeed it was :) -biv On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Mitch Vincent wrote: > Doh, I see what you mean.. You're probably right. > > -Mitch > > "When all your plans fail, backup, re-group and press on. The only real > failure is quitting..." > > -----Original Message----- > From: Laurence Berland > To: Mitch Vincent > Cc: Ben Vaughn ; freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > Date: Friday, July 16, 1999 2:00 PM > Subject: Re: cistron and speed limiting? > > > >I think he means that a user can take an ISDN TA and hook it up to his > >computer and an isdn line and use the 33.6 account without paying extra, > >and it'll go up to ISDN speeds and whatnot, since he's using digital > >equipment at his end. > > > >Mitch Vincent wrote: > >> > >> A 33.6 analog modem can't do ISDN or 56k.. It can only do.. Uhm.. 33.6 > :-) > >> > >> -Mitch > >> > >> "When all your plans fail, backup, re-group and press on. The only real > >> failure is quitting..." > >> > >> > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 16 11:28: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.nwlink.com (smtp.nwlink.com [209.20.130.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40EE14BF9 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:28:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bryn@nwlink.com) Received: from nwlink.com (root@arkansas.nwlink.com [209.20.130.65]) by smtp.nwlink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07520; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <378F791C.3132B7B4@nwlink.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:25:32 -0700 From: "Bryn Wm. Moslow" Organization: Northwest Link Systems Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Vaughn Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cistron and speed limiting? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ben Vaughn wrote: > > Hello, > We use cistron radius as our radius type and I was wondering if > anyone on this list has used this to successfully limit users speeds? We > have a default entry for anyone who shows up in passwd, but since our > access server is a digital one, a customer paying for 33.6k can use 56k or > even isdn! We can set port-limit to 1 to remove the problem of people > using 128k isdn, but we still cannot speed limit people. I am trying to > make the default entry 33.6k only, while if someone is a 56k or isdn user, > they have to have a separate entry in users to be able to use it. Have > tried setting NAS-Port-Type but to no avail. Anybody have a clue? > > Thanks, > Ben Vaughn > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message I successfully use Port-Type with Livingston RADIUS 2.0 to at least keep analog accounts from using ISDN, "NAS-Port-Type = Async" in my DEFAULT. Your hardware may not accept the Port-Type response item. Check your hardware manual against your RADIUS dictionary. I'm using Livingston/Lucent Portmasters and 3Com/USR Total Control Chassis. I don't see how you would do this without sending commands directly to the modem the user is connecting to as the physical connection is negotiated and made before authentication via RADIUS takes place. It might be possible, hardware allowing, with a log-watching script or some hacking of the RADIUS code itself which could get you more trouble than it's worth if you have lots of short connections or allow Multi-PPP. Sadly, I can think of many more reasons to not do it than do it that way. -- /\ /\ /| Bryn Wm. Moslow / \ / \ / | Manager of Systems Operations / \ / \ / | Northwest Link / \ / \ /\ / | (425) 451-1151 -or- (800) 390-1270 / \/ \/ \/ |_______ http://www.nwlink.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 16 11:36:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from zoe.iserve.net (zoe.iserve.net [207.250.219.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF8714BF9 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:36:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rch@iserve.net) Received: from acidic (acidic.iserve.net [207.250.219.40]) by zoe.iserve.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA02107; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:36:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199907161836.NAA02107@zoe.iserve.net> X-Sender: rch@iserve.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:38:41 -0500 To: Ben Vaughn , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Robert Hough Subject: Re: cistron and speed limiting? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 12:50 PM 7/16/99 -0500, Ben Vaughn wrote: >We use cistron radius as our radius type and I was wondering if >anyone on this list has used this to successfully limit users speeds? This is something we are faced with as well, but haven't really done too much about it at this time. Since we dont charge a differance between 33.6 and 56k its not too big of an issue - but, we use EMB's and they can log in as well, and as you said if they wanted to use ISDN they could. I was under the impression cistron supported the fall-through feature, and group checking. So, I would think you could setup various groups for uses, something like: (56k, ISDN1, ISDN2, EMB) etc. If the fall through would just check each group, then pass it off untill they are accepted or rejected? Again, not something I have done, just something I thought cistron supported - which is why we had moved to it initially in the first place. :) __ _______ |__| __|.-----.----.--.--.-----. .--------------------------------. | |__ || -__| _| | | -__| | Robert Hough (rch@iserve.net) | |__|_______||_____|__| \___/|_____| | 317-802-3036 -/- 317-876-0846 | ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 16 11:59:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.tcworks.net (ns.tcworks.net [216.61.218.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E2A14C23 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:59:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Received: from tcworks.net (xcess@likely.to.rageout.org [216.61.218.6]) by ns.tcworks.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA58559 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:59:27 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Message-ID: <378F80AD.541ACD7F@tcworks.net> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:57:49 -0500 From: Chris Cook X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Connected Users Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all, I was wondering if anyone has setup some sort of HTML interface to view active dialup sessions? Would you go about doing this with SNMP or is there someway to use RADIUS to output the list of active sessions into a file that I could use on a web page? We use Livingston PM3's with Livingston Radius. Any feedback would be appreciated! -- Chris Cook The Computer Works http://www.tcworks.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 16 11:59:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27BB714C1B for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:59:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C5B69B24; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 19:56:49 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <378F80B7.2FE722A5@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 19:57:59 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bryn Wm. Moslow" Cc: Ben Vaughn , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cistron and speed limiting? References: <378F791C.3132B7B4@nwlink.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > We use cistron radius as our radius type and I was > > wondering if anyone on this list has used this to successfully > > limit users speeds? This is NAS-dependent. With some NAS you can for example set config parameters so that calls coming in on a certain called-station-id are restricted to a given speed. From there you can get radius to check which number a user is calling and deny or allow based on that. The US market is very, very different to the British market, I can't think of a major UK ISP that charges a premium for 64k ISDN, and the 128k stuff is fairly easily handled by setting port-limit in the response :-) This is probably better directed at the mailing list relevant to whichever NAS you use. Stuart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 16 12:16:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.globalserve.net (mail5.globalserve.net [209.90.128.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B0514BDD for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:16:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from royal@globalserve.net) Received: from indus.globalserve.net (globalserve.net [209.90.128.8]) by mail5.globalserve.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA11421; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:13:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:13:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Moe Jisri To: Chris Cook Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Connected Users In-Reply-To: <378F80AD.541ACD7F@tcworks.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, You can use Big Brother to do this: the address is : http://MacLawran.ca/bb-dnld/ check the demo there. There is also another way with a command line tool to generate a list of the active sessions but I use BB. Regards, Mahmoud Jisri On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Chris Cook wrote: > Hello all, > > I was wondering if anyone has setup some sort of HTML interface to view > active dialup sessions? Would you go about doing this with SNMP or is > there someway to use RADIUS to output the list of active sessions into a > file that I could use on a web page? We use Livingston PM3's with > Livingston Radius. Any feedback would be appreciated! > > -- > Chris Cook > > The Computer Works > http://www.tcworks.net > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 16 12:20:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922FF14BDD for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:20:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B63539B0E; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 20:20:25 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <378F863F.83C43CC7@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 20:21:35 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Cook Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Connected Users References: <378F80AD.541ACD7F@tcworks.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I was wondering if anyone has setup some sort of HTML interface to > view active dialup sessions? There is one for radiator (including drilldown through old logs), http://www.open.com.au/radiator, it isn't free but it is good and very flexible. Stuart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 16 12:21:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from filer2.isc.rit.edu (filer2.isc.rit.edu [129.21.3.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D04414BDD for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:21:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcptch@osfmail.isc.rit.edu) Received: from grace ("port 3169"@[129.21.3.102]) by osfmail.isc.rit.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #34621) with SMTP id <0FEZ00EBM9OUZT@osfmail.isc.rit.edu> for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:19:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by grace (5.65v4.0/1.1.19.2/21Sep98-0910AM) id AA21394; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:20:20 -0400 Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:20:20 -0400 From: jcptch@osfmail.isc.rit.edu Subject: Re: Connected Users In-reply-to: <378F80AD.541ACD7F@tcworks.net>; from Chris Cook on Fri, Jul 16, 1999 at 01:57:49PM -0500 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Mail-followup-to: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-id: <19990716152020.E18601@osfmail.rit.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Operating-System: OSF1 alpha References: <378F80AD.541ACD7F@tcworks.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jul 16, 1999 at 01:57:49PM -0500, Chris Cook wrote: > I was wondering if anyone has setup some sort of HTML interface to view > active dialup sessions? Would you go about doing this with SNMP or is > there someway to use RADIUS to output the list of active sessions into a > file that I could use on a web page? We use Livingston PM3's with > Livingston Radius. Any feedback would be appreciated! I rolled my own a while back that ran through the radius logs and listed the current online users, which port they were on, and when they initially connected. In hindsight, I should have just used a faster SNMP method, rather than parser text files, but what I had worked pretty well. -- Jon Parise (parise@pobox.com) . Rochester Inst. of Technology http://www.pobox.com/~parise/ : Computer Science House Member To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 16 12:33:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.tcworks.net (ns.tcworks.net [216.61.218.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8DB01523F for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:33:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Received: from tcworks.net (xcess@likely.to.rageout.org [216.61.218.6]) by ns.tcworks.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA62814 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:33:40 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Message-ID: <378F88B2.9C9EDAD9@tcworks.net> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:32:02 -0500 From: Chris Cook X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Connected Users Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks for the help all! -- Chris Cook The Computer Works http://www.tcworks.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 16 13:10:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from backup.af.speednet.com.au (af.speednet.com.au [202.135.206.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7914D156D9 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by backup.zippynet.iol.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA99564; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 06:02:34 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 06:02:34 +1000 (EST) From: Andy Farkas X-Sender: andyf@localhost To: Stuart Henderson Cc: Chris Cook , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Connected Users In-Reply-To: <378F863F.83C43CC7@eclipse.net.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > I was wondering if anyone has setup some sort of HTML interface to > > view active dialup sessions? > > There is one for radiator (including drilldown through old logs), > http://www.open.com.au/radiator, it isn't free but it is good and > very flexible. Another good one, although again not free, is at http://www.tsmon.com/ > > Stuart > -- :{ andyf@speednet.com.au Andy Farkas System Administrator Speed Internet Services http://www.speednet.com.au/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 16 18:39:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from arnold.neland.dk (mail.neland.dk [194.255.12.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FFE414DD1; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 18:39:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.0.14]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA11200; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 03:36:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <002f01becff4$d3924160$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> From: "Leif Neland" To: Subject: qmail on hub.freebsd.org suddenly requiring resolvable hostname Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 03:36:12 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I connect my lan using 192.168.0-adresses through ppp to the net. The gateway at 192.168.0.11 calls itself arnold.neland.dk. This ip and name is naturally only known internally on my internal nameserver. When the gateway dials up, the tun0 interface gets a static ip with the name mail.neland.dk. When the sendmail on the gateway connects to hub.freebsd.org, It sends EHLO arnold.neland.dk hub.freebsd.org then replies 450 arnold.neland.dk: host not found (or something with that meaning) So I can't send mail to hub.freebsd.org. I have not met this problem before, I have sent to hub.freebsd.org before, and can still send to others. I have "fixed" this by in the outside nameserver given arnold.neland.dk the same ip as mail.neland.dk, but should this be neccesary? Should the name given in the ehlo be resolvable? I could have several mailservers behind a firewall, each presenting a different name in the EHLO-message. Surely I wouldn't have to list every one otherwise private names in the public DNS? Or should they use a "masquerade-as-in-ehlo"-option in their sendmail.cf? Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 16 21:48:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [209.224.254.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52BA14C49 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 21:48:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [209.224.254.141]) by mail.westbend.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA11992; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 23:47:19 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <001501bed00f$6cda8660$8dfee0d1@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "Leif Neland" Cc: References: <002f01becff4$d3924160$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Subject: Re: qmail on hub.freebsd.org suddenly requiring resolvable hostname Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 23:47:07 -0500 Organization: West Bend Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: Leif Neland > Should the name given in the ehlo be resolvable? I could have several > mailservers behind a firewall, each presenting a different name in the > EHLO-message. Surely I wouldn't have to list every one otherwise private > names in the public DNS? The mailservers on an intranet should never be allowed to send mail directly to the internet through the firewall. Instead they should be setup to send mail to a mail hub (either on the firewall/another system). The mail hub would then have its name in the public DNS. NOTE: It would also be the only system that would receive mail from the internet. Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 17 1:34:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jazz.seychelles.net (jazz.seychelles.net [209.25.29.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3115414E17 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 01:34:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from muditha@seychelles.net) Received: from muditha.seychelles.net ([209.25.29.11]) by jazz.seychelles.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA09865 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 12:20:24 +0400 (SCT) (envelope-from muditha@seychelles.net) Message-ID: <37903E91.D4227A92@seychelles.net> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 12:28:01 +0400 From: Muditha Gunatilake Reply-To: muditha@seychelles.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: FBSD/NAT question X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am trying to get freebsd to act as a mail gateway(router) to a NT & Exchange network. The Freebsd box sits on the customer LAN connected to the ISP via a leased-line. The network has 10/ ip addresses and the bsd box has ethernet ip from lan and fixed ip with the ISP. I have enabled NAT and the customer network can browse using the FBSD box has the gateway without any problems. The network runs an exchange mail server and I am trying to get all requests to made to the SMTP 25 on the gateway to be routed to the exchange server without much success. My rc.conf file is as given below. Can anyone please point any mistakes I have made. (I am not running sendmail on the FBSD box and I don't want it to act as a mail server). Is there something I missed out or any thing I need to add to get this working? ############################################################## ### Important initial Boot-time options ##################### ############################################################## swapfile="NO" # Set to name of swapfile if aux swapfile desired. apm_enable="NO" # Set to YES if you want APM enabled. pccard_enable="NO" # Set to YES if you want to configure PCCARD devices. pccard_mem="DEFAULT" # If pccard_enable=YES, this is card memory address. pccard_ifconfig="NO" # Specialized pccard ethernet configuration (or NO). local_startup="/usr/local/etc/rc.d /usr/X11R6/etc/rc.d" # startup script dirs. ############################################################## ### Network configuration sub-section ###################### ############################################################## ### Basic network options: ### hostname="gateway.abc.com" # Set this! nisdomainname="NO" # Set to NIS domain if using NIS (or NO). firewall_enable="YES" # Set to YES to enable firewall functionality firewall_type="OPEN" # Firewall type (see /etc/rc.firewall) firewall_quiet="NO" # Set to YES to suppress rule display tcp_extensions="YES" # Allow RFC1323 & RFC1644 extensions (or NO). network_interfaces="ep0 lo0" # List of network interfaces (lo0 is loopback). ifconfig_ep0="inet 10.0.0.150 netmask 255.0.0.0" ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" # default loopback device configuration. #ifconfig_lo0_alias0="inet 127.0.0.254 netmask 0xffffffff" # Sample alias entry. ### Network daemon (miscellaneous) & NFS options: ### syslogd_enable="YES" # Run syslog daemon (or NO). syslogd_flags="" # Flags to syslogd (if enabled). inetd_enable="YES" # Run the network daemon dispatcher (or NO). inetd_flags="" # Optional flags to inetd. named_enable="NO" # Run named, the DNS server (or NO). named_program="/usr/sbin/named" # named program, in case we want bind8 instead. named_flags="-b /etc/namedb/named.boot" # Flags to named (if enabled). kerberos_server_enable="NO" # Run a kerberos master server (or NO). kadmind_server_enable="NO" # Run kadmind (or NO) -- do not run on # a slave kerberos server kerberos_stash="" # Is the kerberos master key stashed? rwhod_enable="NO" # Run the rwho daemon (or NO). amd_enable="NO" # Run amd service with $amd_flags (or NO). amd_flags="-a /net -c 1800 -k i386 -d my.domain -l syslog /host /etc/amd.map" nfs_client_enable="NO" # This host is an NFS client (or NO). nfs_client_flags="-n 4" # Flags to nfsiod (if enabled). nfs_access_cache="0" # Client cache timeout in seconds nfs_server_enable="NO" # This host is an NFS server (or NO). nfs_server_flags="-u -t 4" # Flags to nfsd (if enabled). mountd_flags="-r" # Flags to mountd (if NFS server enabled). nfs_reserved_port_only="NO" # Provide NFS only on secure port (or NO). rpc_lockd_enable="NO" # Run NFS rpc.lockd (*broken!*) if nfs_server. rpc_statd_enable="YES" # Run NFS rpc.statd if nfs_server (or NO). portmap_enable="YES" # Run the portmapper service (or NO). portmap_flags="" # Flags to portmap (if enabled). rarpd_enable="NO" # Run rarpd (or NO). rarpd_flags="" # Flags to rarpd. xtend_enable="NO" # Run the X-10 power controller daemon. xtend_flags="" # Flags to xtend (if enabled). ### Network Time Services options: ### timed_enable="NO" # Run the time daemon (or NO). timed_flags="" # Flags to timed (if enabled). ntpdate_enable="NO" # Run the ntpdate to sync time (or NO). ntpdate_program="ntpdate" # path to ntpdate, if you want a different one. ntpdate_flags="" # Flags to ntpdate (if enabled). xntpd_enable="NO" # Run xntpd Network Time Protocol (or NO). xntpd_program="xntpd" # path to xntpd, if you want a different one. xntpd_flags="-p /var/run/xntpd.pid" # Flags to xntpd (if enabled). tickadj_enable="NO" # Run tickadj (or NO). tickadj_flags="-Aq" # Flags to tickadj (if enabled). # Network Information Services (NIS) options: ### nis_client_enable="NO" # We're an NIS client (or NO). nis_client_flags="" # Flags to ypbind (if enabled). nis_ypset_enable="NO" # Run ypset at boot time (or NO). nis_ypset_flags="" # Flags to ypset (if enabled). nis_server_enable="NO" # We're an NIS server (or NO). nis_server_flags="" # Flags to ypserv (if enabled). nis_ypxfrd_enable="NO" # Run rpc.ypxfrd at boot time (or NO). nis_ypxfrd_flags="" # Flags to rpc.ypxfrd (if enabled). nis_yppasswdd_enable="NO" # Run rpc.yppasswdd at boot time (or NO). nis_yppasswdd_flags="" # Flags to rpc.yppasswdd (if enabled). ### Network routing options: ### defaultrouter="202.84.227.1" # Set to default gateway (or NO). static_routes="" # Set to static route list (or leave empty). gateway_enable="YES" # Set to YES if this host will be a gateway. router_enable="NO" # Set to YES to enable a routing daemon. router="routed" # Name of routing daemon to use if enabled. router_flags="-q" # Flags for routing daemon. mrouted_enable="NO" # Do multicast routing (see /etc/mrouted.conf). mrouted_flags="" # Flags for multicast routing daemon. ipxgateway_enable="NO" # Set to YES to enable IPX routing. ipxrouted_enable="NO" # Set to YES to run the IPX routing daemon. ipxrouted_flags="" # Flags for IPX routing daemon. arpproxy_all="" # replaces obsolete kernel option ARP_PROXYALL. forward_sourceroute="NO" # do source routing (only if gateway_enable is set to "YES") accept_sourceroute="NO" # accept source routed packets to us natd_enable="YES" # Enable natd if firewall_enable. natd_interface="ppp0" # Public interface to use with natd if natd_enable. natd_flags="-dynamic -u -redirect_port tcp 10.0.0.150:25 10.0.0.3:25 " # Additional flags for natd. ############################################################## ### System console options ################################# ############################################################## keymap="NO" # keymap in /usr/share/syscons/keymaps/* (or NO). keyrate="NO" # keyboard rate to: slow, normal, fast (or NO). keybell="NO" # bell to duration.pitch or normal or visual (or NO). keychange="NO" # function keys default values (or NO). cursor="NO" # cursor type {normal|blink|destructive} (or NO). scrnmap="NO" # screen map in /usr/share/syscons/scrnmaps/* (or NO). font8x16="NO" # font 8x16 from /usr/share/syscons/fonts/* (or NO). font8x14="NO" # font 8x14 from /usr/share/syscons/fonts/* (or NO). font8x8="NO" # font 8x8 from /usr/share/syscons/fonts/* (or NO). blanktime="300" # blank time (in seconds) or "NO" to turn it off. saver="NO" # screen saver: blank/daemon/green/snake/star/NO. moused_enable="NO" # Run the mouse daemon. moused_type="auto" # See man page for rc.conf(5) for available settings. moused_port="/dev/cuaa0" # Set to your mouse port. moused_flags="" # Any additional flags to moused. allscreens_flags="" # Set this vidcontrol mode for all virtual screens ############################################################## ### Miscellaneous administrative options ################### ############################################################## cron_enable="YES" # Run the periodic job daemon. lpd_enable="NO" # Run the line printer daemon. lpd_flags="" # Flags to lpd (if enabled). sendmail_enable="NO" # Run the sendmail daemon (or NO). sendmail_flags="-bd -q30m" # -bd is pretty mandatory. dumpdev="NO" # Device name to crashdump to (if enabled). check_quotas="NO" # Check quotas (or NO). accounting_enable="NO" # Turn on process accounting (or NO). ibcs2_enable="NO" # Ibcs2 (SCO) emulation loaded at startup (or NO). linux_enable="NO" # Linux emulation loaded at startup (or NO). rand_irqs="NO" # Stir the entropy pool (like "5 11" or NO). clear_tmp_enable="NO" # Clear /tmp at startup. ldconfig_paths="/usr/lib/compat /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/local/lib" # shared library search paths ############################################################## ### Allow local configuration override at the very end here ## ############################################################## if [ -f /etc/rc.conf.local ]; then . /etc/rc.conf.local fi -- --------------------- Muditha Gunatilake Atlas Seychelles Ltd Phone:304060 email: muditha@seychelles.net mbh3gpa@afs.mcc.ac.uk muditha@creole.seychelles.net :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message