From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 28 10:50:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.jjsoft.com (fig2.figdav.com [208.152.114.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B9614BE4 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 10:50:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jahanur@jjsoft.com) Received: from localhost (jahanur@localhost) by ns2.jjsoft.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id MAA02772 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:50:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:50:51 -0600 (CST) From: jahanur To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: sendmail or othermail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Folks, I have installed the latest FreeBsd 3.2 Release. And I am not sure I have installed the Sendmail but I can mail other users. I beleive that some kind of mail program is automatically installed and When I run sendmail that is also runnig. So I am not sure which exactly is working. Could somebody help me or give me some kind of links to where I can read about it. I see that sendmail is somehow installed. But my plan is to install the sendmail the best possible way. Do I need to uninstall the one we already have. Please help me.!! Jahanur To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 28 11:25:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from psmtp2.dnsg.net (psmtp2.dnsg.net [193.168.128.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 35B4D14EAE for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 11:25:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from s.ende@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 27614 invoked from network); 28 Nov 1999 20:24:59 +0100 Received: from nrbg-m189-166.pool.mediaways.net (HELO PanicBSD.dhis.org) (62.52.189.166) by psmtp2.dnsg.net with SMTP; 28 Nov 1999 20:24:59 +0100 Received: from gmx.net (darkfear.dhis.org [192.168.0.2]) by PanicBSD.dhis.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA67319; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:24:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from s.ende@gmx.net) Message-ID: <38418185.E0614FED@gmx.net> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:24:53 +0100 From: Steven Enderle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [de] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jahanur Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail or othermail References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------E7A5CB283A17DBF86E240C45" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------E7A5CB283A17DBF86E240C45 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You can simply check what mailer is installed, it will tell you when you enter "telnet localhost 25" on your box. You should see the following: [panic@strange::/usr/local/panic/private] > telnet localhost 25 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. 220 strange ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.3; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:21:04 +0100 (CET) I have sendmail 8.9.3 installed, it's the standart smtpd in FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE and FreeBSD 3.2 RELEASE. Simply type QUIT to exit telnet. jahanur wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I have installed the latest FreeBsd 3.2 Release. > And I am not sure I have installed the Sendmail but I can mail other > users. I beleive that some kind of mail program is automatically installed > and When I run sendmail that is also runnig. So I am not sure which > exactly is working. Could somebody help me or give me some kind of > links to where I can read about it. > I see that sendmail is somehow installed. > But my plan is to install the sendmail the best possible way. > Do I need to uninstall the one we already have. > Please help me.!! > > Jahanur > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message --------------E7A5CB283A17DBF86E240C45 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You can simply check what mailer is installed, it will tell you when you enter "telnet localhost 25" on your box.

You should see the following:

[panic@strange::/usr/local/panic/private] > telnet localhost 25
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 strange ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.3; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:21:04 +0100 (CET)

I have sendmail 8.9.3 installed, it's the standart smtpd in FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE and FreeBSD 3.2 RELEASE.

Simply type QUIT to exit telnet.

jahanur wrote:

Hi Folks,

I have installed the latest FreeBsd 3.2 Release.
And I am not sure I have installed the Sendmail but I can mail other
users. I beleive that some kind of mail program is automatically installed
and When I run sendmail that is also runnig. So I am not sure which
exactly is working. Could somebody help  me or give me some kind of
links to where I can read about it.
I see that sendmail is somehow installed.
But my plan is to install the sendmail the best possible way.
Do I need to uninstall the one we already have.
Please help me.!!

Jahanur

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--------------E7A5CB283A17DBF86E240C45-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 28 11:34: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.jjsoft.com (fig2.figdav.com [208.152.114.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D7D15161 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 11:34:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jahanur@jjsoft.com) Received: from localhost (jahanur@localhost) by ns2.jjsoft.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id NAA02890; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:33:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 13:33:57 -0600 (CST) From: jahanur To: Steven Enderle Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail or othermail In-Reply-To: <38418185.E0614FED@gmx.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What kind of install or build is it. Will this build enough to handle all the facilities provided by Sendmail. Please Help Jahanur On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, Steven Enderle wrote: > You can simply check what mailer is installed, it will tell you when you enter > "telnet localhost 25" on your box. > > You should see the following: > > [panic@strange::/usr/local/panic/private] > telnet localhost 25 > Trying 127.0.0.1... > Connected to localhost. > Escape character is '^]'. > 220 strange ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.3; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:21:04 +0100 (CET) > > I have sendmail 8.9.3 installed, it's the standart smtpd in FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE > and FreeBSD 3.2 RELEASE. > > Simply type QUIT to exit telnet. > > jahanur wrote: > > > Hi Folks, > > > > I have installed the latest FreeBsd 3.2 Release. > > And I am not sure I have installed the Sendmail but I can mail other > > users. I beleive that some kind of mail program is automatically installed > > and When I run sendmail that is also runnig. So I am not sure which > > exactly is working. Could somebody help me or give me some kind of > > links to where I can read about it. > > I see that sendmail is somehow installed. > > But my plan is to install the sendmail the best possible way. > > Do I need to uninstall the one we already have. > > Please help me.!! > > > > Jahanur > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 28 12: 7: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mls.gtonet.net (mls.gtonet.net [216.112.90.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D9B1559B for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:07:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gtonet.net) Received: from pld (holeyman@pld.gtonet.net [216.112.90.200]) by mls.gtonet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA20358; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:06:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gtonet.net) From: "FreeBSD" To: "jahanur" , "Steven Enderle" Cc: Subject: RE: sendmail or othermail Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:06:35 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-reply-to: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org First of all this all belongs on freebsd-questions not here... Secondly, if your running sendmail you should be looking at http://www.sendmail.org/ Third, I'd also suggest O'REILLY and Asscoc. SENDMAIL 2nd ed. FreeBSD freebsd@gtonet.net "LinSUX is only free if your time is worthless" > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of jahanur > Sent: Sunday, November 28, 1999 11:34 AM > To: Steven Enderle > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: sendmail or othermail > > > > What kind of install or build is it. > Will this build enough to handle all the facilities provided by Sendmail. > Please Help > Jahanur > > > > On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, Steven Enderle wrote: > > > You can simply check what mailer is installed, it will tell you > when you enter > > "telnet localhost 25" on your box. > > > > You should see the following: > > > > [panic@strange::/usr/local/panic/private] > telnet localhost 25 > > Trying 127.0.0.1... > > Connected to localhost. > > Escape character is '^]'. > > 220 strange ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.3; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 > 20:21:04 +0100 (CET) > > > > I have sendmail 8.9.3 installed, it's the standart smtpd in > FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE > > and FreeBSD 3.2 RELEASE. > > > > Simply type QUIT to exit telnet. > > > > jahanur wrote: > > > > > Hi Folks, > > > > > > I have installed the latest FreeBsd 3.2 Release. > > > And I am not sure I have installed the Sendmail but I can mail other > > > users. I beleive that some kind of mail program is > automatically installed > > > and When I run sendmail that is also runnig. So I am not sure which > > > exactly is working. Could somebody help me or give me some kind of > > > links to where I can read about it. > > > I see that sendmail is somehow installed. > > > But my plan is to install the sendmail the best possible way. > > > Do I need to uninstall the one we already have. > > > Please help me.!! > > > > > > Jahanur > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 28 12:14:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.jjsoft.com (fig2.figdav.com [208.152.114.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B98514C0D for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 12:14:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jahanur@jjsoft.com) Received: from localhost (jahanur@localhost) by ns2.jjsoft.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id OAA02990; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:13:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 14:13:55 -0600 (CST) From: jahanur To: FreeBSD Cc: Steven Enderle , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: sendmail or othermail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Because I have been there that is why I am here. Got more confused. And we run an ISP. We have been happy with the regular sendmail install that comes with all the versions of Freebsd. But sometimes to install patches and fixes or to apply kind of fixes to sendmail does not work. For example If you notice the Email sent Titled "Unsolicited Email". Is also by me. And the fixes that I get for sendmail I can not apply them. Thats is why I am trying to find out what kind of build is it. If you dont have an answer, please do not divert the topic. I appreciate your help. Thank You Jahanur On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, FreeBSD wrote: > First of all this all belongs on freebsd-questions not here... > Secondly, if your running sendmail you should be looking at > http://www.sendmail.org/ > Third, I'd also suggest O'REILLY and Asscoc. SENDMAIL 2nd ed. > > FreeBSD > freebsd@gtonet.net > > "LinSUX is only free if your time is worthless" > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of jahanur > > Sent: Sunday, November 28, 1999 11:34 AM > > To: Steven Enderle > > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: sendmail or othermail > > > > > > > > What kind of install or build is it. > > Will this build enough to handle all the facilities provided by Sendmail. > > Please Help > > Jahanur > > > > > > > > On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, Steven Enderle wrote: > > > > > You can simply check what mailer is installed, it will tell you > > when you enter > > > "telnet localhost 25" on your box. > > > > > > You should see the following: > > > > > > [panic@strange::/usr/local/panic/private] > telnet localhost 25 > > > Trying 127.0.0.1... > > > Connected to localhost. > > > Escape character is '^]'. > > > 220 strange ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.3; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 > > 20:21:04 +0100 (CET) > > > > > > I have sendmail 8.9.3 installed, it's the standart smtpd in > > FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE > > > and FreeBSD 3.2 RELEASE. > > > > > > Simply type QUIT to exit telnet. > > > > > > jahanur wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Folks, > > > > > > > > I have installed the latest FreeBsd 3.2 Release. > > > > And I am not sure I have installed the Sendmail but I can mail other > > > > users. I beleive that some kind of mail program is > > automatically installed > > > > and When I run sendmail that is also runnig. So I am not sure which > > > > exactly is working. Could somebody help me or give me some kind of > > > > links to where I can read about it. > > > > I see that sendmail is somehow installed. > > > > But my plan is to install the sendmail the best possible way. > > > > Do I need to uninstall the one we already have. > > > > Please help me.!! > > > > > > > > Jahanur > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 28 21:10:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from blackbird.lonetree.com (blackbird.lonetree.com [207.141.55.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7636A1512B for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 21:10:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wolfman@csocs.com) Received: from csocs.com [209.64.46.23] by blackbird.lonetree.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.01) id AAA2B9FE0178; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 22:09:54 mdt Message-ID: <38420BA0.BCF0E10C@csocs.com> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 22:14:08 -0700 From: "J.C. Frazier" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: apache13-fp-modssl problem with passwords Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I finally got the frontpage 2k patch version of apache working correctly and as far as I know the security is much much better. I am having one problem which I can't seem to figure out and it has been consistantly the same no matter what version of apache or frontpage I try to run. Anytime a user tries to publish a page from the client, or perform anyother operation as an author/administrator, there is a password mismatch. I have checked the passwords and they are correct. md5 and des are installed on the box, md5 being the default. I believe that there might possibly be an encryption problem, however I'm unsure what to do about it. I have read a couple threads on the newslsts from 1997 when someone had this problem, but no answer was really given other then "FreeBSD 'should' support both once you have the secure package installed". I have that installed, but md5 is still the default for obvious reasons. I really don't want to change everything over to des fully because of other problems that might cause with things I have running now....not including having to change every user password on the system. Any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated on how to find out if this is really the problem and/or possible solutions... bash-2.03# ls -l *crypt* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 11 Sep 18 11:16 libcrypt.a -> libscrypt.a lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 12 Sep 18 11:16 libcrypt.so -> libscrypt.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 14 Sep 18 11:16 libcrypt.so.2 -> libscrypt.so.2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 13 Sep 18 11:17 libcrypt_p.a -> libscrypt_p.a -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 13018 Nov 25 22:04 libdescrypt.a lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16 Nov 25 22:04 libdescrypt.so -> libdescrypt.so.2 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 12965 Nov 25 22:04 libdescrypt.so.2 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 14750 Nov 25 22:04 libdescrypt_p.a -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 6194 Nov 25 22:04 libscrypt.a lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 14 Nov 25 22:04 libscrypt.so -> libscrypt.so.2 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 7579 Nov 25 22:04 libscrypt.so.2 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 6684 Nov 25 22:04 libscrypt_p.a bash-2.03# uname -a FreeBSD shell.csocs.com 3.3-STABLE FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE #4: Sat Nov 27 21:36:06 MST 1999 root@shell.csocs.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/shell i386 bash-2.03# pkg_info -a | grep apache apache_fp+mod_ssl-1.3.9+2.4.8 Taken from /var/log/httpd-error.log: [Sat Nov 27 20:28:01 1999] [error] user fpadmin: authentication failure for "/_vti_bin/_vti_aut/author.exe": password mismatch J.C. Frazier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 28 21:40:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FBC615495 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 21:40:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11sI2G-0000vs-00; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:03:32 -0800 Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:03:30 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: "J.C. Frazier" Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache13-fp-modssl problem with passwords In-Reply-To: <38420BA0.BCF0E10C@csocs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, J.C. Frazier wrote: ... > Anytime a user tries to publish a page from the client, or perform > anyother operation as an author/administrator, there is a password > mismatch. I have checked the passwords and they are correct. md5 and > des are installed on the box, md5 being the default. I believe that ... > "FreeBSD 'should' support both once you have the secure package ... > Taken from /var/log/httpd-error.log: > [Sat Nov 27 20:28:01 1999] [error] user fpadmin: authentication failure > for "/_vti_bin/_vti_aut/author.exe": password mismatch Do a "file" on author.exe. If it is statically linked, it was probably linked against someother crypt(). FreeBSD's libcrypt has a crypt() function that can understand both DES and MD5. Howerver, it encrypts using the mentod specified by the symlink. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 28 22:18: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from blackbird.lonetree.com (blackbird.lonetree.com [207.141.55.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 560591525A for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 22:18:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wolfman@csocs.com) Received: from csocs.com [209.64.46.23] by blackbird.lonetree.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.01) id AA79B2DA0124; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 23:17:29 mdt Message-ID: <38421B77.C8C9314E@csocs.com> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 23:21:43 -0700 From: "J.C. Frazier" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache13-fp-modssl problem with passwords References: <384218E4.12795CCC@csocs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Tom wrote: > > > On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, J.C. Frazier wrote: > > ... > > > Anytime a user tries to publish a page from the client, or perform > > > anyother operation as an author/administrator, there is a password > > > mismatch. I have checked the passwords and they are correct. md5 and > > > des are installed on the box, md5 being the default. I believe that > > ... > > > "FreeBSD 'should' support both once you have the secure package > > ... > > > Taken from /var/log/httpd-error.log: > > > [Sat Nov 27 20:28:01 1999] [error] user fpadmin: authentication failure > > > for "/_vti_bin/_vti_aut/author.exe": password mismatch > > > > Do a "file" on author.exe. If it is statically linked, it was probably > > linked against someother crypt(). > > > > FreeBSD's libcrypt has a crypt() function that can understand both DES > > and MD5. Howerver, it encrypts using the mentod specified by the symlink. > > > > Tom > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message bash-2.03# file author.exe author.exe: BSD/OS i386 compact demand paged executable I also checked the service.pwd files and it is at least encrypting it in DES: bash-2.03# john /usr2/www/user/_vti_pvt/service.pwd Loaded 1 password (Standard DES [24/32 4K]) correctpassword (user) <--- (real pass and username left out of this e-mail) Just not sure about the process of decryption on frontpage or how the passwords are matched... MS has a way about not providing src code for binaries when you need it. J.C. Frazier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 28 22:19:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB396153DD for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 22:19:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11sIeE-0000xq-00; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:42:46 -0800 Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 20:42:45 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: "J.C. Frazier" Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache13-fp-modssl problem with passwords In-Reply-To: <384218E4.12795CCC@csocs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, J.C. Frazier wrote: > Tom wrote: > > > On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, J.C. Frazier wrote: > > ... > > > Anytime a user tries to publish a page from the client, or perform > > > anyother operation as an author/administrator, there is a password > > > mismatch. I have checked the passwords and they are correct. md5 and > > > des are installed on the box, md5 being the default. I believe that > > ... > > > "FreeBSD 'should' support both once you have the secure package > > ... > > > Taken from /var/log/httpd-error.log: > > > [Sat Nov 27 20:28:01 1999] [error] user fpadmin: authentication failure > > > for "/_vti_bin/_vti_aut/author.exe": password mismatch > > > > Do a "file" on author.exe. If it is statically linked, it was probably > > linked against someother crypt(). > > > > FreeBSD's libcrypt has a crypt() function that can understand both DES > > and MD5. Howerver, it encrypts using the mentod specified by the symlink. > > > > Tom > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > bash-2.03# file author.exe > author.exe: BSD/OS i386 compact demand paged executable Statically link (since it doesn't say dynamic, it has to be static), and it is a BSD/OS executable, and I doubt that the crypt() function on BSD/OS knows anything about MD5 passwords. > I also checked the service.pwd files and it is encrypting it in DES: > bash-2.03# john /usr2/www/user/_vti_pvt/service.pwd > Loaded 1 password (Standard DES [24/32 4K]) > correctpassword (user) <--- (real pass and username left out of > this e-mail) > > Just not sure about the process of decryption on frontpage or how the > passwords are matched... Try a DES password in master.passwd. If frontpage works with that, then you must either use DES passwords for everyone who wants to use frontpage, or get RTR Software to make a FreeBSD build of the frontpage executables. > J.C. Frazier Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 28 22:38:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from blackbird.lonetree.com (blackbird.lonetree.com [207.141.55.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDAAC153FA for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 22:38:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wolfman@csocs.com) Received: from csocs.com [209.64.46.23] by blackbird.lonetree.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.01) id AF57A03000D2; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 23:38:15 mdt Message-ID: <38422055.2906C9B2@csocs.com> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 23:42:29 -0700 From: "J.C. Frazier" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: apache13-fp-modssl problem with passwords References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tom wrote: > > bash-2.03# file author.exe > > author.exe: BSD/OS i386 compact demand paged executable > > Statically link (since it doesn't say dynamic, it has to be static), and > it is a BSD/OS executable, and I doubt that the crypt() function on BSD/OS > knows anything about MD5 passwords. > > > I also checked the service.pwd files and it is encrypting it in DES: > > bash-2.03# john /usr2/www/user/_vti_pvt/service.pwd > > Loaded 1 password (Standard DES [24/32 4K]) > > correctpassword (user) <--- (real pass and username left out of > > this e-mail) > > > > Just not sure about the process of decryption on frontpage or how the > > passwords are matched... > > Try a DES password in master.passwd. If frontpage works with that, then > you must either use DES passwords for everyone who wants to use frontpage, > or get RTR Software to make a FreeBSD build of the frontpage executables. > > > J.C. Frazier > > Tom > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message Very Interesting indeed. I did as you sugested and changed a users password in /etc/master.passwd into des. Failed login via telnet/ftp, and password mismatch via frontpage. I then tried it with vipw so that all the dbs would be updated. Same results. It seems my crypt() doesn't know the difference between md5, des, and a hole in it's head. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 29 2:37: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.wirehub.nl (smtp.wirehub.nl [195.86.25.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1AB154E3 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 02:36:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Ben.Grimm@wirehub.net) Received: from ben.wirehub.nl (ben.wirehub.nl [195.86.25.13]) by smtp.wirehub.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA05555 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:36:52 +0100 (CET) From: "Ben C. O. Grimm" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Comments / thoughts on nntpcache Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:36:52 +0100 Organization: Wirehub! Internet Engineering Message-ID: References: <383E7BB2.A148E293@premier-networks.com> <383EA45F.BD29D28@eclipse.net.uk.newsgate.clinet.fi> In-Reply-To: <383EA45F.BD29D28@eclipse.net.uk.newsgate.clinet.fi> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.7/32.534 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 26 Nov 1999 17:16:36 +0200, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > We ran it at an ISP I used to work at and it puked there as well.. the > > cache directory would never purge itself automatically... we had to go > > in and manually destroy the cache directory about once a day... > > There's a signal you can send it to ask it to expire. > Split it over ports and then you can expire binaries differently. That would be nntpcached -e. With a properly configured nntpcache, you would never have a need for this. The only thing that would help when an expire runs at very slow speeds is to HUP the main nntpcached process. Don't know why, but it helps sometimes. Oh, and don't run nntpcached -e standalone. It's much faster when the nntpcache daemon itself is running as well. -- - Ben C. O. Grimm ----------------- Ben.Grimm@wirehub.net - - Wirehub! Internet Engineering - http://www.wirehub.net/ - - Wirehub! Backbone --- http://doema.wirehub.net/wirehub/ - - Private Ponderings ------- http://libertas.wirehub.net/ - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 29 8:19:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cronus.medianetwork.se (cronus.medianetwork.se [193.14.204.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EAD51507E for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:18:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dl@tyfon.net) Received: from junglenote.com (digital17.medianetwork.se [193.14.204.235]) by cronus.medianetwork.se (8.9.3/8.7) with ESMTP id RAA15704 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:18:44 +0100 Received: from enigmatic [127.0.0.1] by junglenote.com [localhost] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.84.R) for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:29:19 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:29:15 +0100 Message-ID: <01BF3A8F.424118C0.dl@tyfon.net> From: Dan Larsson To: "'joe@pavilion.net'" , "Kevin S. Brackett" Cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: SV: IP or packet Accounting Software for burst connections. Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:29:14 +0100 Organization: Tyfon Internet Services [ http://tyfon.net ] X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet-e-post/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Return-Path: dl@tyfon.net Reply-To: dl@tyfon.net Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >=20 > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Fr=E5n: Josef Karthauser [SMTP:joe@pavilion.net] > Skickat: den 25 november 1999 20:04 > Till: Kevin S. Brackett > Kopia: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > =C4mne: Re: IP or packet Accounting Software for burst connections. >=20 > On Thu, Nov 25, 1999 at 12:20:23PM -0500, Kevin S. Brackett wrote: > > If anyone else hasn't suggested ipfilter+ipaccounting, check out > > http://www2.empnet.com/ipacct/. >=20 > Any suggestions for if you _also_ want to traffic shape as well as=20 > monitor? Check out Emerging Technologies' Bandwidth Manager ( = http://www.etinc.com ) =20 > Joe > --=20 > Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? > Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) > Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, = joe@tao.org.uk] >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message Regards ------------ Dan Larsson Tyfon Internet Services Portabla Datorer AB http://tyfon.net : http://pod.nu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 29 11:22:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.websitefactory.net (ns1.websitefactory.net [208.26.83.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7711B1529C for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:22:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jweaver@websitefactory.net) Received: from asbestos.websitefactory.net (asbestos.websitefactory.net [208.26.78.16]) by ns1.websitefactory.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BECC6AE61E; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:23:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:22:33 -0500 From: Jonathan Weaver To: "J.C. Frazier" , Tom Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: apache13-fp-modssl problem with passwords Message-ID: <3287515556.943885353@asbestos.websitefactory.net> In-Reply-To: <38422055.2906C9B2@csocs.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry (Win32) [2.0.0b1, s/n U-301192] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --On Sunday, November 28, 1999 11:42 PM -0700 "J.C. Frazier" wrote: > Tom wrote: > >> > bash-2.03# file author.exe >> > author.exe: BSD/OS i386 compact demand paged executable >> >> Statically link (since it doesn't say dynamic, it has to be static), >> and it is a BSD/OS executable, and I doubt that the crypt() function >> on BSD/OS knows anything about MD5 passwords. >> >> > I also checked the service.pwd files and it is encrypting it in DES: >> > bash-2.03# john /usr2/www/user/_vti_pvt/service.pwd >> > Loaded 1 password (Standard DES [24/32 4K]) >> > correctpassword (user) <--- (real pass and username left >> > out of this e-mail) >> > >> > Just not sure about the process of decryption on frontpage or how the >> > passwords are matched... >> >> Try a DES password in master.passwd. If frontpage works with that, >> then you must either use DES passwords for everyone who wants to use >> frontpage, or get RTR Software to make a FreeBSD build of the frontpage >> executables. >> >> > J.C. Frazier >> >> Tom >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > Very Interesting indeed. I did as you sugested and changed a users > password in /etc/master.passwd into des. Failed login via telnet/ftp, > and password mismatch via frontpage. I then tried it with vipw so that > all the dbs would be updated. Same results. It seems my crypt() doesn't > know the difference between md5, des, and a hole in it's head. > Did you install the DES libraries? It is a seperate package that has to be installed before you can use DES. - Jonathan > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 29 11:43:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.jjsoft.com (fig2.figdav.com [208.152.114.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7EF1538C for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:43:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jahanur@jjsoft.com) Received: from localhost (jahanur@localhost) by ns2.jjsoft.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id NAA04904; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:43:22 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:43:21 -0600 (CST) From: jahanur To: Leif Neland Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sv: Sv: unsolicited mail In-Reply-To: <00c501bf3903$ef33d5a0$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am fixinign it right now. and then I will aply the access file option in sendmail Thanks Jahanur On Sat, 27 Nov 1999, Leif Neland wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jahanur > To: Leif Neland > Sent: Saturday, November 27, 1999 5:34 PM > Subject: Re: Sv: unsolicited mail > > > > Yes I do have that. But that does not help. > > I mean I dont want them and I want to stop them. > > > Let me ask my question again: > > You do not have any valid mail-recipients for iant.com; a mail sent to david bounces with "Mail loops back to myself", which means you have not set your server to recieve mail for that domain. > > I noticed iant.com and www.iant.com has the same ip-adress. > You also does not have a mx-record for it, which appearently means that mailers try to deliver to to the ip-adress. > > If you assign a mx record for the domain, either 127.0.0.1, 0.0.0.0 or no.mail.server. (I'm not sure if bind will accept a non-resolvable name), you won't get the mail for the domain at all. > > > > > > > > HI folks, > > > > Holiday greetings to you all. > > > > I have been receiving unsolicited e-mail to one of my virtual e-mail > > > > domain which does not exist. It looks like that somebody who used to own > > > > this domain(iant.com) had a user called "david" and this person put his > > > > email address to some big sales email lists companies ( I think its all of > > > > the lists in the world). And listed himself as "david@iant.com". We host > > > > the virtual site "www.iant.com" since the beginning of this year. Since I > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 29 11:45:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.jjsoft.com (fig2.figdav.com [208.152.114.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3288B152F4 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:45:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jahanur@jjsoft.com) Received: from localhost (jahanur@localhost) by ns2.jjsoft.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id NAA04916; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:45:00 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 13:45:00 -0600 (CST) From: jahanur To: FreeBSD Cc: Steven Enderle , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: sendmail or othermail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thank you for the advice. I have bought the book. I will install the sendmail properly according to the book. Thanks Jahanur On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, FreeBSD wrote: > First of all this all belongs on freebsd-questions not here... > Secondly, if your running sendmail you should be looking at > http://www.sendmail.org/ > Third, I'd also suggest O'REILLY and Asscoc. SENDMAIL 2nd ed. > > FreeBSD > freebsd@gtonet.net > > "LinSUX is only free if your time is worthless" > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of jahanur > > Sent: Sunday, November 28, 1999 11:34 AM > > To: Steven Enderle > > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: sendmail or othermail > > > > > > > > What kind of install or build is it. > > Will this build enough to handle all the facilities provided by Sendmail. > > Please Help > > Jahanur > > > > > > > > On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, Steven Enderle wrote: > > > > > You can simply check what mailer is installed, it will tell you > > when you enter > > > "telnet localhost 25" on your box. > > > > > > You should see the following: > > > > > > [panic@strange::/usr/local/panic/private] > telnet localhost 25 > > > Trying 127.0.0.1... > > > Connected to localhost. > > > Escape character is '^]'. > > > 220 strange ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.3; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 > > 20:21:04 +0100 (CET) > > > > > > I have sendmail 8.9.3 installed, it's the standart smtpd in > > FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE > > > and FreeBSD 3.2 RELEASE. > > > > > > Simply type QUIT to exit telnet. > > > > > > jahanur wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Folks, > > > > > > > > I have installed the latest FreeBsd 3.2 Release. > > > > And I am not sure I have installed the Sendmail but I can mail other > > > > users. I beleive that some kind of mail program is > > automatically installed > > > > and When I run sendmail that is also runnig. So I am not sure which > > > > exactly is working. Could somebody help me or give me some kind of > > > > links to where I can read about it. > > > > I see that sendmail is somehow installed. > > > > But my plan is to install the sendmail the best possible way. > > > > Do I need to uninstall the one we already have. > > > > Please help me.!! > > > > > > > > Jahanur > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 29 12:44:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wnonline.net (mail.wnonline.net [216.4.88.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 233CB15340 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:44:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jk@wnonline.net) Received: from noc.wnonline.net (jk@noc.wnonline.net [216.4.88.2]) by mail.wnonline.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA08275 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:44:35 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jk@wnonline.net) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:44:35 -0600 (CST) From: joe X-Sender: jk@localhost To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: backup solutions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i've been pokin around at a few different tape backup systems for the isp i work with, and i haven't really been able to make up my mind. ideally i would love to have a 20gb * 7 day backup machine but in reality i will prolly only be able to get 10gb * 3-4 day. i was wondering if anyone had experience with any of these machines that has been used in a mission critical environment, and what solutions they have found. replies public or private are welcomed :> thanks a bunch -jk ========================================= joe kamm network administrator worldnet communications ========================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 29 14:15:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from blackbird.lonetree.com (blackbird.lonetree.com [207.141.55.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770CB15531 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 14:15:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wolfman@csocs.com) Received: from csocs.com [209.64.46.23] by blackbird.lonetree.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.01) id AAF2E8C70124; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 15:15:14 mdt Message-ID: <3842FBEF.3D8E564C@csocs.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 15:19:27 -0700 From: "J.C. Frazier" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Weaver Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: apache13-fp-modssl problem with passwords References: <3287515556.943885353@asbestos.websitefactory.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jonathan Weaver wrote: > --On Sunday, November 28, 1999 11:42 PM -0700 "J.C. Frazier" > wrote: > > > Tom wrote: > > > >> > bash-2.03# file author.exe > >> > author.exe: BSD/OS i386 compact demand paged executable > >> > >> Statically link (since it doesn't say dynamic, it has to be static), > >> and it is a BSD/OS executable, and I doubt that the crypt() function > >> on BSD/OS knows anything about MD5 passwords. > >> > >> > I also checked the service.pwd files and it is encrypting it in DES: > >> > bash-2.03# john /usr2/www/user/_vti_pvt/service.pwd > >> > Loaded 1 password (Standard DES [24/32 4K]) > >> > correctpassword (user) <--- (real pass and username left > >> > out of this e-mail) > >> > > >> > Just not sure about the process of decryption on frontpage or how the > >> > passwords are matched... > >> > >> Try a DES password in master.passwd. If frontpage works with that, > >> then you must either use DES passwords for everyone who wants to use > >> frontpage, or get RTR Software to make a FreeBSD build of the frontpage > >> executables. > >> > >> > J.C. Frazier > >> > >> Tom > >> > >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > Very Interesting indeed. I did as you sugested and changed a users > > password in /etc/master.passwd into des. Failed login via telnet/ftp, > > and password mismatch via frontpage. I then tried it with vipw so that > > all the dbs would be updated. Same results. It seems my crypt() doesn't > > know the difference between md5, des, and a hole in it's head. > > > > Did you install the DES libraries? It is a seperate package that has to be > installed before > you can use DES. > > - Jonathan > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message Yes, DES is installed: bash-2.03# ls -l /usr/lib/*des* -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 53118 Nov 28 21:14 /usr/lib/libdes.a lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 11 Nov 28 21:14 /usr/lib/libdes.so -> libdes.so.3 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 35678 Nov 28 21:14 /usr/lib/libdes.so.3 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 56608 Nov 28 21:14 /usr/lib/libdes_p.a -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 13018 Nov 25 22:04 /usr/lib/libdescrypt.a lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16 Nov 25 22:04 /usr/lib/libdescrypt.so -> libdescrypt.so.2 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 12965 Nov 25 22:04 /usr/lib/libdescrypt.so.2 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 14750 Nov 25 22:04 /usr/lib/libdescrypt_p.a bash-2.03# ls -l /usr/lib/*crypt* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 11 Sep 18 11:16 /usr/lib/libcrypt.a -> libscrypt.a lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 12 Sep 18 11:16 /usr/lib/libcrypt.so -> libscrypt.so lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 14 Sep 18 11:16 /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.2 -> libscrypt.so.2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 13 Sep 18 11:17 /usr/lib/libcrypt_p.a -> libscrypt_p.a -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 13018 Nov 25 22:04 /usr/lib/libdescrypt.a lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 16 Nov 25 22:04 /usr/lib/libdescrypt.so -> libdescrypt.so.2 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 12965 Nov 25 22:04 /usr/lib/libdescrypt.so.2 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 14750 Nov 25 22:04 /usr/lib/libdescrypt_p.a -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 6194 Nov 25 22:04 /usr/lib/libscrypt.a lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 14 Nov 25 22:04 /usr/lib/libscrypt.so -> libscrypt.so.2 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 7579 Nov 25 22:04 /usr/lib/libscrypt.so.2 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 6684 Nov 25 22:04 /usr/lib/libscrypt_p.a J.C. Frazier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 29 15:17:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from blackbird.lonetree.com (blackbird.lonetree.com [207.141.55.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8728015506 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 15:17:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wolfman@csocs.com) Received: from csocs.com [209.64.46.23] by blackbird.lonetree.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.01) id A96344D801A0; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 16:16:51 mdt Message-ID: <38430A5F.FB18F6@csocs.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 16:21:03 -0700 From: "J.C. Frazier" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Winn Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache13-fp-modssl problem with passwords References: <38422055.2906C9B2@csocs.com> <001b01bf3a4f$8b1d8be0$1d48b6ca@gothic.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sean Winn wrote: > libscrypt* only supports MD5; it's the "export" libraries, and can't support > DES. libdescrypt* supports both DES and MD5, and defaults to whatever salt > it gets provided (so if users already have an MD5 password, they stay with > it... but generally new users get a DES one.) You can either patch descrypt > to swap the default, or wait for a new crypt() series of functions which > will allow the choice (this is being written currently, but I can't remember > the URL.) Do you suggest just changing the libcrypt.* libs to symbolically link to the des libs then, or is there an easier way to change everything over in one swoop? And do you know if the libs are the only thing I need to change, or are there other things such as auth.conf? I like your idea, and if the des crypt() can do both so I wouldn't have to change current passwords on all my users, things will be much easier. > As far as I'm aware though, the FP3 extensions certainly didn't actually > require the Unix passwords; I've used the Linux FPE with NIS, getting only > an "*" from the FreeBSD NIS server, and it seemed to work without > problems.... however this was FP98, not FP2K extensions. The FP4 (2K) extensions are working correctly and everything seems to be doing good other then the password problem on authoring. I don't believe the root of this problem lies in the 2K extensions. I've tried other versions of Apache and FP3 with the same results (everything works but the passwords). I read a letter from JKH from 1997 responding to someone using FP2 extensions who had the same problem, and JKH had to said that crypt() supported both and there was no problem there, that it must be something else. However, I searched and searched and there are no answers to the problem. It seems I'm not the only one, but it hasn't been documented in quite a while. J.C. Frazier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 29 16:15:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [209.224.254.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63AE215174 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 16:15:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from support@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [209.224.254.141]) by mail.westbend.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA77712; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 18:15:20 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from support@westbend.net) Message-ID: <019001bf3ac7$fccc17c0$8dfee0d1@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "J.C. Frazier" Cc: References: <38422055.2906C9B2@csocs.com> <001b01bf3a4f$8b1d8be0$1d48b6ca@gothic.net.au> <38430A5F.FB18F6@csocs.com> Subject: Re: apache13-fp-modssl problem with passwords Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 18:15:19 -0600 Organization: West Bend Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: "J.C. Frazier" > > libscrypt* only supports MD5; it's the "export" libraries, and can't support > > DES. libdescrypt* supports both DES and MD5, and defaults to whatever salt > > it gets provided (so if users already have an MD5 password, they stay with > > it... but generally new users get a DES one.) You can either patch descrypt > > to swap the default, or wait for a new crypt() series of functions which > > will allow the choice (this is being written currently, but I can't remember > > the URL.) > > Do you suggest just changing the libcrypt.* libs to symbolically link to the > des libs then, or is there an easier way to change everything over in one > swoop? And do you know if the libs are the only thing I need to change, or are > there other things such as auth.conf? I like your idea, and if the des crypt() > can do both so I wouldn't have to change current passwords on all my users, > things will be much easier. > Yes, change the symbolic links for libcrypt.* so that they point to the libdescrypt.* libraries (instead of the libscrypt.* libraries). The libdescrypt library has support for both DES & MD5 passwords (libdescrypt passes MD5 passwords to libscrypt). This is the only change that needs to be made. This will allow your users to login with either DES/MD5 passwords, as well as making the passwords work in the Apache-FP server. Note: any new/changed passwords will be encrypted with DES. Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 29 17:22:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from 24-25-220-29.san.rr.com (24-25-220-29.san.rr.com [24.25.220.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FEE215654 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:22:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gateway.gorean.org (gateway.gorean.org [10.0.0.1]) by 24-25-220-29.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA32887; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:22:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:21:53 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Barton X-Sender: doug@24-25-220-29.san.rr.com To: "J.C. Frazier" Cc: Jonathan Weaver , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: apache13-fp-modssl problem with passwords In-Reply-To: <3842FBEF.3D8E564C@csocs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, J.C. Frazier wrote: > > Did you install the DES libraries? It is a seperate package that has to be > > installed before > > you can use DES. > > > > - Jonathan > Yes, DES is installed: > > bash-2.03# ls -l /usr/lib/*crypt* > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 11 Sep 18 11:16 /usr/lib/libcrypt.a -> > libscrypt.a > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 12 Sep 18 11:16 /usr/lib/libcrypt.so -> > libscrypt.so > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 14 Sep 18 11:16 /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.2 -> > libscrypt.so.2 > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 13 Sep 18 11:17 /usr/lib/libcrypt_p.a -> > libscrypt_p.a You have installed the libraries (somehow?) but your symlinks are not up to date, so the crypt() system call is still using MD5. Try doing the DES install using /stand/sysinstall, which will sort this all out for you. Good luck, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 29 17:23:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from blackbird.lonetree.com (blackbird.lonetree.com [207.141.55.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB5D15654 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:22:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wolfman@csocs.com) Received: from csocs.com [209.64.46.23] by blackbird.lonetree.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.01) id A6C279C0178; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 18:22:10 mdt Message-ID: <384327BE.114EFF85@csocs.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 18:26:22 -0700 From: "J.C. Frazier" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: apache13-fp-modssl problem with passwords References: <38420BA0.BCF0E10C@csocs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thank you very much everyone for the help, I greatly apreciate it. The solution was fairly easy. Even though FP extensions are statically linked to the descrypt(), apache, which was linked to libscrypt() could not deal with it. I changed my links from libcrypt() to libdescrypt(), yet that didn't fix the problem. You must also recompile apache. Once that was done, everything worked perfect and no more password mismatch errors. All new passwords are crypted in DES after this is done unless you supply a MD5 salt ($1$xx) in /etc/master.passwd prior to making the new user. Changes in existing users are not effected and remain encrypted in MD5. Conclusion: libscrypt() will only support MD5, libdescrypt() supports both DES and MD5. Apache needs to be compiled under libdescrypt() in order to function correctly with frontpage. Thanks again. J.C. Frazier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 29 17:51:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from eg.karpaty.uzhgorod.ua (eg.karpaty.uzhgorod.ua [193.125.74.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A74F815673 for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:49:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eug@karpaty.uzhgorod.ua) Received: from karpaty.uzhgorod.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by eg.karpaty.uzhgorod.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA06798; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 03:46:55 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from eug@karpaty.uzhgorod.ua) Message-ID: <38432C8E.2EB1CBEA@karpaty.uzhgorod.ua> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 03:46:54 +0200 From: Eugene Gres X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Scot W. Hetzel" Cc: "J.C. Frazier" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, Eugene Gres Subject: Re: apache13-fp-modssl problem with passwords References: <38422055.2906C9B2@csocs.com> <001b01bf3a4f$8b1d8be0$1d48b6ca@gothic.net.au> <38430A5F.FB18F6@csocs.com> <019001bf3ac7$fccc17c0$8dfee0d1@westbend.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Scot W. Hetzel" wrote: > From: "J.C. Frazier" > > > libscrypt* only supports MD5; it's the "export" libraries, and can't > support > > > DES. libdescrypt* supports both DES and MD5, and defaults to whatever > salt > > > it gets provided (so if users already have an MD5 password, they stay > with > > > it... but generally new users get a DES one.) You can either patch > descrypt > > > to swap the default, or wait for a new crypt() series of functions which > > > will allow the choice (this is being written currently, but I can't > remember > > > the URL.) > > > > Do you suggest just changing the libcrypt.* libs to symbolically link to > the > > des libs then, or is there an easier way to change everything over in one > > swoop? And do you know if the libs are the only thing I need to change, > or are > > there other things such as auth.conf? I like your idea, and if the des > crypt() > > can do both so I wouldn't have to change current passwords on all my > users, > > things will be much easier. > > > Yes, change the symbolic links for libcrypt.* so that they point to the > libdescrypt.* libraries (instead of the libscrypt.* libraries). The > libdescrypt library has support for both DES & MD5 passwords (libdescrypt > passes MD5 passwords to libscrypt). > > This is the only change that needs to be made. > > This will allow your users to login with either DES/MD5 passwords, as well > as making the passwords work in the Apache-FP server. > > Note: any new/changed passwords will be encrypted with DES. > > Scot > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message Hi! You must : backup in ${server_root}/ _vti_pvt/server.pwd Than use: htpasswd(Apache htpasswd ) P.S. I'l use FP4.0(2000) and notes in www.freebsdzine.org/7 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 29 18: 5:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from blackbird.lonetree.com (blackbird.lonetree.com [207.141.55.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D1D1569E for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 18:05:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wolfman@csocs.com) Received: from csocs.com [209.64.46.23] by blackbird.lonetree.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.01) id A0C4F6BD0078; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 19:04:52 mdt Message-ID: <384331C0.F5E53F24@csocs.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 19:09:04 -0700 From: "J.C. Frazier" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache13-fp-modssl problem with passwords Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thank you very much everyone for the help, I greatly apreciate it. The solution was fairly easy. Even though FP extensions are statically linked to the descrypt(), apache, which was linked to libscrypt() could not deal with it. I changed my links from libcrypt() to libdescrypt(), yet that didn't fix the problem. You must also recompile apache. Once that was done, everything worked perfect and no more password mismatch errors. All new passwords are crypted in DES after this is done unless you supply a MD5 salt ($1$xx) in /etc/master.passwd prior to making the new user. Changes in existing users are not effected and remain encrypted in MD5. I now have mod_ssl, frontpage, and apache all working cooperatively... Conclusion: libscrypt() will only support MD5, libdescrypt() supports both DES and MD5. Apache needs to be compiled under libdescrypt() in order to function correctly with frontpage. Thanks again. J.C. Frazier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 29 18:35:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from g-net.globe.com.ph (g-net.globe.com.ph [203.127.225.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126FE150D5; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 18:35:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nitronarc@iname.com) Received: from ajpuyat (AS2-02.globe.com.ph [203.127.225.196]) by g-net.globe.com.ph (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA30063; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 10:44:45 +0800 (HKT) Message-Id: <4.1.19991130102700.00a43ce0@mail.globe.com.ph> X-Sender: ajpuyat@mail.globe.com.ph (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 10:35:24 +0800 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Ramoncito P. Puyat" Subject: Moxa C104H/HS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all! I know that this is off-topic (at least for freebsd-isp) however this may be the most appropriate list to ask this... Has anybody used the MOXA C104/PCI for interfacing to a high-speed modem? We are planning to get a leased line for our server, but the telco wants me to provide a serial card for the modem. Has anyone gotten this card to work? Can anybody suggest a serial card, preferably PCI, to use as an interface for our leased lines (upgradable to 512 kbps capacity). Much appreciated. Ramoncito P. Puyat To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 29 23:53:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from nwcst277.netaddress.usa.net (nwcst277.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.23.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A4FD3157DB for ; Mon, 29 Nov 1999 23:53:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from at950@usa.net) Received: (qmail 3734 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Nov 1999 07:53:46 -0000 Message-ID: <19991130075346.3733.qmail@nwcst277.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.23.22 by nwcst277 for [202.57.102.6] via web-mailer(M3.4.0.33) on Tue Nov 30 07:53:46 GMT 1999 Date: 30 Nov 99 00:53:46 MST From: To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: DNS and the ISP black hole Cc: postmaster@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.4.0.33) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Bret, Sorry the ISP list Admin. has black-holed me and Fil.Net without even ONE warning for asking for a little pitty in the work I am doing teaching the Congressman that FreeBSD is a better operating system than WinNT. It is a tough job because M/S has a big Lobby trying to get the government to not license ISP's that don't have an official WinNT seal on their servers! This was about my first post and I asked for help with a sendmail problem from apache on our ISP's new server. Actually, a lot of people on the list gave me the information I needed to correct the problem. But the admin. felt that asking for a little pitty being pretty much alone in the Philippines against a large crowd of WinNT people was reason enough to send all my postings to his /dev/null! This Congressman is very impressed by the fact we are going against the "best thinking" (WinNT) and that our ISP is Providing a BETTER service using FreeBSD! He is the Chair of the House Committee on Telecomunication and is now drafting regulations effecting the Internet. I would think the FreeBSD ISP Admin. would WANT to Help get FreeBSD written into the Government's regulation, instead of cutting off someone - WITHOUT EVEN ONE WARNING - who runs the ONLY FreeBSD users group in the whole country. Anyway, to answer your questions... Your addresses are 216.150.57.8/29 aka: 216.150.57.8 255.255.255.248 This gives you the useable addresses of 216.150.57.9-14 You forgot the subnet value route address and subnet value. = Take a look at: ftp://ftp.ripe.net/rfc/rfc2317.txt I also changed your serial number to remove the "." in the format: YYYYMMDDNN where NN is the serial number for that days update (so don't make more than 100 changes on any one day! A bigger problem will be your ISP's delegation. I could not find any delegation for the 57.105.216.in-addr.arpa. zone at all. aLan $ORIGIN 8/26.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa. IN SOA dante.plover.org. bford.dante.plover.org. ( 1999113000 ; Serial 10800 ; Refresh after 3 hours 3600 ; Retry after 1 hour 604800 ; Expire after 1 week 3600 ) ; Minimum TTL of 1 hour NS dante.plover. NS ns1.pbi.net. 9 IN PTR ad9.plover.org. 10 IN PTR heather.plover.org. 11 IN PTR thorin.plover.org. 12 IN PTR advent.plover.org. 13 IN PTR dante.plover.org. 14 IN PTR daman.plover.org. I hope this helps! ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 30 3: 0:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.portal2.com (ns1.portal2.com [203.85.226.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F0F2914F48 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 03:00:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yusufg@outblaze.com) Received: (qmail 85603 invoked from network); 30 Nov 1999 11:00:10 -0000 Received: from yusufg.portal2.com (qmailr@203.85.226.249) by ns1.portal2.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 1999 11:00:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 17129 invoked by uid 500); 30 Nov 1999 11:00:15 -0000 Date: 30 Nov 1999 11:00:15 -0000 Message-ID: <19991130110015.17128.qmail@yusufg.portal2.com> From: Yusuf Goolamabbas To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Cc: kent@outblaze.com Subject: Does FreeBSD support Acceleport RAS cards from Digi Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I am looking at implement a dial-up solution using the Acceleport RAS cards from Digi http://www.digi.com/digi.cfm?p=730298.pi.prd.00000046 Can this card be configured as an 8-port serial interface or does it require more than this. If anybody has suggestions on cards which can be used for remote-access under FreeBSD I would appreciate it Cheers, Yusuf -- Yusuf Goolamabbas yusufg@outblaze.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 30 3:19:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from chuggalug.clues.com (chuggalug.clues.com [194.217.82.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58BC115818; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 03:19:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from geoffb@chuggalug.clues.com) Received: (from geoffb@localhost) by chuggalug.clues.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA26369; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:19:24 GMT (envelope-from geoffb) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:19:24 +0000 From: Geoff Buckingham To: "Ramoncito P. Puyat" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Moxa C104H/HS Message-ID: <19991130111924.A24425@chuggalug.clues.com> References: <4.1.19991130102700.00a43ce0@mail.globe.com.ph> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <4.1.19991130102700.00a43ce0@mail.globe.com.ph>; from Ramoncito P. Puyat on Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 10:35:24AM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 10:35:24AM +0800, Ramoncito P. Puyat wrote: > Hi all! > > I know that this is off-topic (at least for freebsd-isp) however this may > be the most appropriate list to ask this... > > Has anybody used the MOXA C104/PCI for interfacing to a high-speed modem? > We are planning to get a leased line for our server, but the telco wants me > to provide a serial card for the modem. Has anyone gotten this card to work? > > Can anybody suggest a serial card, preferably PCI, to use as an interface > for our leased lines (upgradable to 512 kbps capacity). > Depending on what kind of serial connection you are being presented with, www.etinc.com may be of some use. -- GeoffB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 30 6:23:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.areti.net (meteora.areti.com [193.118.189.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F2B3158E9 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 06:23:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ndear@areti.net) Received: from acropolis (acropolis.noc.areti.net [193.118.189.102]) by post.mail.areti.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Areti-2.0.0) with ESMTP id OAA20210 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:23:03 GMT Message-Id: <199911301423.OAA20210@post.mail.areti.net> From: "Nicholas J. Dear" Organization: Areti Internet Ltd. To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:21:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: mod_throttle compilation on BSD. Reply-To: ndear@areti.net X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Has anyone successfully compiled mod_throttle into Apache on a BSD box? We're having problems here, it refuses to compile into our FreeBSD-3.1 STABLE box. TIA. N. -- Nicholas J. Dear Mail: ndear@areti.net Tel: +44 (0)20-8402-4041 Areti Internet Ltd., http://www.areti.co.uk/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 30 7:27:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from c012.sfo.cp.net (c012-h006.c012.sfo.cp.net [209.228.13.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 129F91590F for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 07:27:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jasmack2@altavista.com) Received: (cpmta 28528 invoked from network); 30 Nov 1999 07:27:43 -0800 Date: 30 Nov 1999 07:27:43 -0800 Message-ID: <19991130152743.28527.cpmta@c012.sfo.cp.net> X-Sent: 30 Nov 1999 15:27:43 GMT Received: from [203.25.160.112] by mail.altavista.com with HTTP; 30 Nov 1999 07:27:43 PST Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Jason McKay Cc: isp@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.3 Subject: Urgent Help Needed - panic problems Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, About every 3 days the system holts, on the screen it only reports: panic: timeout table full I have replaced almost every piece of hardware in the computer, and it hasn't helped. Is there anything else I can do, like increasing the size of the table. Thanks, Jason. ______________________________________________________________ Open your mind. Close your wallet. Free Internet Access from AltaVista. http://www.altavista.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 30 8: 5:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dumbo.familyinet.net (dumbo.familyinet.net [206.105.51.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1FCD1583C for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 08:05:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phill@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (phill@localhost) by dumbo.familyinet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA10637 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:20:05 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: dumbo.familyinet.net: phill owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:20:05 +0000 (GMT) From: Phillip Salzman X-Sender: phill@dumbo.familyinet.net To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Livingston/Lucent RADIUS Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone successfully ran the Livingston's beta RADIUS (compiled for BSD/OS) on FreeBSD? We seem to be having problems while migrating a server. -- Phillip Salzman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 30 8:54: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sstar.com (sstar.com [209.102.160.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8308F158F7 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 08:53:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from king@sstar.com) Received: from JKING ([134.132.75.164]) by sstar.com with ESMTP (IPAD 2.52) id 5200300; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 10:53:57 -0600 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991130105300.00a3fcc0@mail.sstar.com> X-Sender: king@mail.sstar.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 10:53:56 -0600 To: Phillip Salzman , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Jim King Subject: Re: Livingston/Lucent RADIUS In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 11:20 AM 11/30/1999 +0000, Phillip Salzman wrote: >Has anyone successfully ran the Livingston's beta >RADIUS (compiled for BSD/OS) on FreeBSD? > >We seem to be having problems while migrating a server. For 2.1 I downloaded the source and built it on FreeBSD. Are they not making the source available any more? Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 30 9:24:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from quaggy.ursine.com (lambda.blueneptune.com [209.133.45.179]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA2714E73; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 09:24:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fbsd-isp@ursine.com) Received: from michael (lambda.ursine.com [209.133.45.69]) by quaggy.ursine.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA47178; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 09:24:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <199911300924270220.423E69ED@quaggy.ursine.com> In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19991130105300.00a3fcc0@mail.sstar.com> References: <4.2.0.58.19991130105300.00a3fcc0@mail.sstar.com> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.00.00.13 (2) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 09:24:27 -0800 From: "Michael Bryan" To: "Jim King" , "Phillip Salzman" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Livingston/Lucent RADIUS Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 11/30/99 at 10:53 AM Jim King wrote: >At 11:20 AM 11/30/1999 +0000, Phillip Salzman wrote: >>Has anyone successfully ran the Livingston's beta >>RADIUS (compiled for BSD/OS) on FreeBSD? >> >>We seem to be having problems while migrating a server. > >For 2.1 I downloaded the source and built it on FreeBSD. Are they not >making the source available any more? It's still there, in this directory: ftp://ftp.livingston.com/pub/le/radius/ It should build on FreeBSD with no problems. It was released on June 23, 1999. An earlier beta release of 2.1 did not have the source available (except during a brief window when they accidentally included it), so running the BSD/OS version was an option some people used, IIRC. I've been running with FreeBSD-compiled versions of their radiusd for nearly three years now, with zero hitches. As of 2.1, they even removed the restriction that you had to own a piece of Lucent/Livingston equipment to download the sources, so pretty much anybody can use it. Michael Bryan fbsd-isp@ursine.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 30 9:41:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from host1.premier-hosting.com (host1.premier-hosting.com [206.47.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19AC315971; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 09:41:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paul@premier-networks.com) Received: from premier-networks.com (internal-admin.premier-hosting.com [206.47.86.6]) by host1.premier-hosting.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA30679; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:52:16 GMT Message-ID: <384408A4.6778D8E6@premier-networks.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:25:56 -0500 From: "Paul Stewart (Premier Networks)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Bryan Cc: Jim King , Phillip Salzman , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Livingston/Lucent RADIUS References: <4.2.0.58.19991130105300.00a3fcc0@mail.sstar.com> <199911300924270220.423E69ED@quaggy.ursine.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does it work with any radius client?? ;) We have total control here along with some clients which are authenticated via RRAS.... Thanks, Paul Michael Bryan wrote: > > On 11/30/99 at 10:53 AM Jim King wrote: > >At 11:20 AM 11/30/1999 +0000, Phillip Salzman wrote: > >>Has anyone successfully ran the Livingston's beta > >>RADIUS (compiled for BSD/OS) on FreeBSD? > >> > >>We seem to be having problems while migrating a server. > > > >For 2.1 I downloaded the source and built it on FreeBSD. Are they not > >making the source available any more? > > It's still there, in this directory: > > ftp://ftp.livingston.com/pub/le/radius/ > > It should build on FreeBSD with no problems. It was released on > June 23, 1999. An earlier beta release of 2.1 did not have the > source available (except during a brief window when they accidentally > included it), so running the BSD/OS version was an option some > people used, IIRC. I've been running with FreeBSD-compiled versions > of their radiusd for nearly three years now, with zero hitches. > > As of 2.1, they even removed the restriction that you had to own > a piece of Lucent/Livingston equipment to download the sources, so > pretty much anybody can use it. > > Michael Bryan > fbsd-isp@ursine.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 30 9:42: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sstar.com (sstar.com [209.102.160.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A1114E3E for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 09:42:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from king@sstar.com) Received: from JKING ([134.132.75.164]) by sstar.com with ESMTP (IPAD 2.52) id 5229500; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:41:59 -0600 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991130114050.00a72cd0@mail.sstar.com> X-Sender: king@mail.sstar.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:42:00 -0600 To: "Michael Bryan" , "Phillip Salzman" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Jim King Subject: Re: Livingston/Lucent RADIUS In-Reply-To: <199911300924270220.423E69ED@quaggy.ursine.com> References: <4.2.0.58.19991130105300.00a3fcc0@mail.sstar.com> <4.2.0.58.19991130105300.00a3fcc0@mail.sstar.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 09:24 AM 11/30/1999 -0800, Michael Bryan wrote: >On 11/30/99 at 10:53 AM Jim King wrote: > >At 11:20 AM 11/30/1999 +0000, Phillip Salzman wrote: > >>Has anyone successfully ran the Livingston's beta > >>RADIUS (compiled for BSD/OS) on FreeBSD? > >> > >>We seem to be having problems while migrating a server. > > > >For 2.1 I downloaded the source and built it on FreeBSD. Are they not > >making the source available any more? > >It's still there, in this directory: > > ftp://ftp.livingston.com/pub/le/radius/ > >It should build on FreeBSD with no problems. It was released on >June 23, 1999. An earlier beta release of 2.1 did not have the >source available (except during a brief window when they accidentally >included it), so running the BSD/OS version was an option some >people used, IIRC. I've been running with FreeBSD-compiled versions >of their radiusd for nearly three years now, with zero hitches. > >As of 2.1, they even removed the restriction that you had to own >a piece of Lucent/Livingston equipment to download the sources, so >pretty much anybody can use it. When was this? I vaguely recall trying to download it a few weeks ago and being asked for a hardware serial number (which I have, but didn't feel like crawling around to find). Anyway, that's good news! Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 30 11:23:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from quaggy.ursine.com (lambda.blueneptune.com [209.133.45.179]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E7EF159EB for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:23:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fbsd-isp@ursine.com) Received: from michael (lambda.ursine.com [209.133.45.69]) by quaggy.ursine.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA47741; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:23:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <199911301123380240.42AB8E21@quaggy.ursine.com> In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19991130114050.00a72cd0@mail.sstar.com> References: <4.2.0.58.19991130105300.00a3fcc0@mail.sstar.com> <4.2.0.58.19991130105300.00a3fcc0@mail.sstar.com> <4.2.0.58.19991130114050.00a72cd0@mail.sstar.com> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.00.00.13 (2) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:23:38 -0800 From: "Michael Bryan" To: "Jim King" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Livingston/Lucent RADIUS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 11/30/99 at 11:42 AM Jim King wrote: >At 09:24 AM 11/30/1999 -0800, Michael Bryan wrote: >>As of 2.1, they even removed the restriction that you had to own >>a piece of Lucent/Livingston equipment to download the sources, so >>pretty much anybody can use it. > >When was this? I vaguely recall trying to download it a few weeks ago and= >being asked for a hardware serial number (which I have, but didn't feel >like crawling around to find). The policy change was effective when they released 2.1, on June 23. Unfortunately, the www.livingston.com website for source download (in the "Technical Corner" section) still has the page up that asks for all sorts of information, including Lucent/Livingston serial numbers. A -lot- of the www.livingston.com website has fallen into disrepair since the Lucent acquisition. They've moved the product documentation to be under www.lucent.com, and the remainder of the www.livingston.com site is slowly getting more and more out of date. The mailing list archives are a prime example. :-/ Just go to the FTP site in the previous message, and you'll be able to get Lucent RADIUS 2.1 easily enough. In fact, given that they removed the restrictions on their radiusd, some enterprising individual could add it to the ports collection, such as /usr/ports/net/radiusd-lucent. Michael Bryan fbsd-isp@ursine.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 30 14:46:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.jjsoft.com (fig2.figdav.com [208.152.114.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C58CF15806 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 14:46:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jahanur@jjsoft.com) Received: from localhost (jahanur@localhost) by ns2.jjsoft.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id QAA07334 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 16:46:11 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 16:46:11 -0600 (CST) From: jahanur To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Media streaming server Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org HI Folks, What is the best media streaming server for Freebsd. And also free or cheaper. Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 30 15:37:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from naiad.eclipse.net.uk (naiad.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D3F215871 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:37:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sh@eclipse.net.uk) Received: by naiad.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix, from userid 65534) id C25F71339E; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:37:43 +0000 (GMT) From: Stuart Henderson To: jahanur Reply-To: Stuart Henderson Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: IMP 2.0.10-cvs X-Complaints-To: abuse@eclipse.net.uk X-Trace: webmail.octarine.org/212.104.138.232/195.188.32.32/1.0 thebe.proxy.eclipse.net.uk:8080 (Squid/2.3.DEVEL2) Subject: Re: Media streaming server Message-Id: <19991130233743.C25F71339E@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:37:43 +0000 (GMT) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > What is the best media streaming server for Freebsd. Probably RealServer, since it negotiates with clients for connection speed and so on. On the downside, it does work out rather expensive for licensing. On the upside, native FreeBSD binaries are available. > And also free or cheaper. Cheaper than free? You'll be lucky :) Icecast is one option (shoutcast-compatible for mp3s). If you need support for more common clients on the cheap and don't need to send out live streams[1] you could get away with serving single-rate RealMedia files from a webserver if you expect a reasonably low client volume (see http://real.com and dig around devzone for information on setting the files up). (RM server will try to pace with the clients and doesn't send more than it thinks they can accept, it buffers or drops the rest as necessary: as web servers are all tcp, guaranteed delivery, guaranteed in-order, a single dropped packet will stall the client until it's been retransmitted). One upside to http-streaming is it can be cached at a squid proxy. [1] okay, there might just be a way to do that, but it smells. :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 30 15:46: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mls.gtonet.net (mls.gtonet.net [216.112.90.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB24D15923 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:46:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gtonet.net) Received: from pld (holeyman@pld.gtonet.net [216.112.90.200]) by mls.gtonet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA29160; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:45:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gtonet.net) From: "FreeBSD" To: "jahanur" , Subject: RE: Media streaming server Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:46:20 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org OK, this inbred fucktard must not get it...I told him several times about the mailing list charters and again he posts to -isp instead of -questions...It's now time to filter this idiot so I don't have to see his stupidity show through once again. maybe we'll get lucky this time and he'll slip, in the shower(assuming he doesn't bathe in the wrong piece of porcelain too), on his rubber penguin and break his neck. If this moron keeps posting to the wrong list someone else can deal with him. As far as I'm concerned he doesn't exist anymore. FreeBSD freebsd@gtonet.net "LinSUX is only free if your time is worthless" > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of jahanur > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 2:46 PM > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Media streaming server > > > HI Folks, > > What is the best media streaming server for Freebsd. > And also free or cheaper. > > Thanks > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 30 15:51:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from chuggalug.clues.com (chuggalug.clues.com [194.217.82.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4163615883 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 15:51:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from geoffb@chuggalug.clues.com) Received: (from geoffb@localhost) by chuggalug.clues.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA27784; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:51:12 GMT (envelope-from geoffb) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:51:12 +0000 From: Geoff Buckingham To: Stuart Henderson Cc: jahanur , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Media streaming server Message-ID: <19991130235112.C24425@chuggalug.clues.com> References: <19991130233743.C25F71339E@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19991130233743.C25F71339E@naiad.eclipse.net.uk>; from Stuart Henderson on Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 11:37:43PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 11:37:43PM +0000, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > What is the best media streaming server for Freebsd. > > Probably RealServer, since it negotiates with clients for connection > speed and so on. On the downside, it does work out rather expensive for > licensing. On the upside, native FreeBSD binaries are available. > Also see: http://www.entera.com/products/index.html and apples open source 'darwin' server (work probably required to port) -- GeoffB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 30 16:29:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from vinyl.sentex.ca (vinyl.sentex.ca [209.112.4.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08832159EE; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 16:28:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite-atm.sentex.ca [209.112.4.1]) by vinyl.sentex.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA91294; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:28:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from ospf-mdt.sentex.net (ospf-mdt.sentex.net [205.211.164.81]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA06279; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:28:42 -0500 (EST) From: mike@sentex.net (Mike Tancsa) To: phill@FreeBSD.ORG (Phillip Salzman) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Livingston/Lucent RADIUS Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 00:28:40 GMT Message-ID: <38446b0d.428302516@mail.sentex.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 30 Nov 1999 11:11:16 -0500, in sentex.lists.freebsd.isp you wrote: >Has anyone successfully ran the Livingston's beta >RADIUS (compiled for BSD/OS) on FreeBSD? > >We seem to be having problems while migrating a server. We used to run it. If I recall, there were just a couple of small #includes that needed to be cleaned up to stop some compile warnings, but other than that, it worked fine. Where is it falling over on you ? I am sure others have probably suggested, but I will say it again... Check out the Cistron RADIUS. Does everything the Lucent RADIUS does, and then some. From a tech support point of view, the -y option is worth it alone. ---Mike Mike Tancsa (mdtancsa@sentex.net) Sentex Communications Corp, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada "Given enough time, 100 monkeys on 100 routers could setup a national IP network." (KDW2) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 30 16:42: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 608) id 5662815A23; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 16:41:40 -0800 (PST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" To: freebsd@gtonet.net Cc: jahanur@jjsoft.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Subject: Re: Media streaming server Message-Id: <19991201004140.5662815A23@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 16:41:40 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > OK, this inbred fucktard must not get it...I told him several times about > the mailing list charters and again he posts to -isp instead your behavior is not appropriate for the FreeBSD mailing lists. Please do not behave in this manner in our lists. If you persist in this behavior, I will ban you from all the FreeBSD mailing lists. If you insist on behaving in this manner outside the FreeBSD mailing lists, please change your username from "freebsd" to something else. We do not want FreeBSD associated with intolerance. jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Core Team, Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--The Power to Serve JMB193 http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 30 16:51:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mls.gtonet.net (mls.gtonet.net [216.112.90.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C5914F70; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 16:51:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gtonet.net) Received: from pld (holeyman@pld.gtonet.net [216.112.90.200]) by mls.gtonet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA29595; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 16:51:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gtonet.net) From: "FreeBSD" To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" , Cc: , Subject: RE: Media streaming server Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 16:51:36 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <19991201004140.5662815A23@hub.freebsd.org> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You do whatever you feel you need to, I *WONT* be changing my username. I've already unsubscribed from -isp and -hackers FreeBSD freebsd@gtonet.net "LinSUX is only free if your time is worthless" > -----Original Message----- > From: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:jmb@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jonathan M. > Bresler > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 4:42 PM > To: freebsd@gtonet.net > Cc: jahanur@jjsoft.com; freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Media streaming server > > > > > > OK, this inbred fucktard must not get it...I told him several > times about > > the mailing list charters and again he posts to -isp instead > > your behavior is not appropriate for the FreeBSD mailing > lists. Please do not behave in this manner in our lists. If you > persist in this behavior, I will ban you from all the FreeBSD mailing > lists. > > If you insist on behaving in this manner outside the FreeBSD > mailing lists, please change your username from "freebsd" to something > else. We do not want FreeBSD associated with intolerance. > > jmb > -- > Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Core Team, Postmaster > jmb@FreeBSD.ORG > FreeBSD--The Power to Serve JMB193 > http://www.freebsd.org/ > PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 > DC 62 0E FB > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 30 17: 7:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 608) id 18BFE15A23; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 17:07:47 -0800 (PST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" To: freebsd@gtonet.net Cc: freebsd@gtonet.net, jahanur@jjsoft.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Subject: Re: Media streaming server Message-Id: <19991201010747.18BFE15A23@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 17:07:47 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 > > You do whatever you feel you need to, I *WONT* be changing my username. I've > already unsubscribed from -isp and -hackers The FreeBSD mailing lists are the primary means that developers and users communicate with each other. Personal attacks on people in the mailing lists impede that communication both at the time that the personal attack takes place and in the future when others are deterred from communicating due to the fear fo ridicule. We welcome people to the mailing lists, and will welcome your return, if and only if, you will refrain from ridiculing other people in the mailing lists. jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Core Team, Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--The Power to Serve JMB193 http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 30 17: 8: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from loki.intrepid.net (intrepid.net [204.71.127.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F165114F59 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 17:08:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@loki.intrepid.net) Received: (from mark@localhost) by loki.intrepid.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA16582; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:07:54 -0500 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:07:48 -0500 From: Mark Conway Wirt To: Stuart Henderson Cc: jahanur , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Media streaming server Message-ID: <19991130200747.A17859@intrepid.net> References: <19991130233743.C25F71339E@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <19991130233743.C25F71339E@naiad.eclipse.net.uk>; from sh@eclipse.net.uk on Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 11:37:43PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 11:37:43PM +0000, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > What is the best media streaming server for Freebsd. > > Probably RealServer, since it negotiates with clients for connection > speed and so on. On the downside, it does work out rather expensive for > licensing. On the upside, native FreeBSD binaries are available. Maybe drifting a bit off topic, but: RealServer used to be available with 20 concurrent connections for free. Have they discontinued that policy? --Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 30 17:10: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.trace.net.tw (mail.trace.net.tw [202.80.128.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07E0014F59 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 17:09:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ronald@trace.net.tw) X-Comments: ****** Message sent through a Trace account ****** X-http: ****** http://www.trace.net.tw ****** Received: from trace.net.tw (engineer.trace.net.tw [202.80.128.82]) by mail.trace.net.tw (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA03070; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 09:10:44 +0800 Message-ID: <384475D9.59347780@trace.net.tw> Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 09:11:53 +0800 From: Ronald Wiplinger Organization: Wang's Trace Tech. Enterprise Co., Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-TW MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Cc: jahanur , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Media streaming server References: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------2324CCCA836CCCE91FE2E79A" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------2324CCCA836CCCE91FE2E79A Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------1ECD8B05E9F361014E89FEC8" --------------1ECD8B05E9F361014E89FEC8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FreeBSD wrote: > OK, this inbred fucktard must not get it...I told him several times about Is this your first language? Do you need to proof from where you come or what you are? > > the mailing list charters and again he posts to -isp instead > If there is a charter, than the location of it would be a much better answer ;-) However, *I* believe, that a streaming server is more or less a question for an ISP, rather than to a HOW-TO-SETUP-FREEBSD question. > of -questions...It's now time to filter this idiot so I don't have to see > his stupidity show through once again. maybe we'll get lucky this time and > he'll slip, in the shower(assuming he doesn't bathe in the wrong piece of > porcelain too), on his rubber penguin and break his neck. If this moron > keeps posting to the wrong list someone else can deal with him. As far as > I'm concerned he doesn't exist anymore. > If you think you need to keep your slang that way, *I* would suggest you: 1. rename your sigature below to something that reflects more yourself 2. try to use the feature of unsubscribe from the list - Trust me, it is the best filter you ever can get - sorry I mean - *WE* can get! 3. Please do not mention anymore, that you are using FreeBSD, since .... (re-read and deleted ;-) ) bye Ronald > > FreeBSD > freebsd@gtonet.net > > "LinSUX is only free if your time is worthless" > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of jahanur > > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 2:46 PM > > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Media streaming server > > > > > > HI Folks, > > > > What is the best media streaming server for Freebsd. > > And also free or cheaper. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message --------------1ECD8B05E9F361014E89FEC8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  

FreeBSD wrote:

OK, this inbred fucktard must not get it...I told him several times about

Is this your first language? Do you need to proof from where you come or what you are?
 
 

 
the mailing list charters and again he posts to -isp instead
 

If there is a charter, than the location of it would be a much better answer ;-)
However, *I* believe, that a streaming server is more or less a question for an ISP, rather than to a HOW-TO-SETUP-FREEBSD question.
 

of -questions...It's now time to filter this idiot so I don't have to see
his stupidity show through once again. maybe we'll get lucky this time and
he'll slip, in the shower(assuming he doesn't bathe in the wrong piece of
porcelain too), on his rubber penguin and break his neck. If this moron
keeps posting to the wrong list someone else can deal with him. As far as
I'm concerned he doesn't exist anymore.
 

If you think you need to keep your slang that way, *I* would suggest you:

1. rename your sigature below to something that reflects more yourself
2. try to use the feature of unsubscribe from the list - Trust me, it is the best filter you ever can get - sorry I mean - *WE* can get!
3. Please do not mention anymore, that you are using FreeBSD, since .... (re-read and deleted ;-)  )
 
 

bye

Ronald
 
 

 
FreeBSD
freebsd@gtonet.net

"LinSUX is only free if your time is worthless"

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of jahanur
> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 2:46 PM
> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Media streaming server
>
>
> HI Folks,
>
> What is the best media streaming server for Freebsd.
> And also free or cheaper.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
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Manager fn:Ronald Wiplinger end:vcard --------------2324CCCA836CCCE91FE2E79A-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 30 19:44:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tiger.cc.uop.edu (tiger.cc.uop.edu [138.9.1.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EEFF14C15 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:42:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bford@tiger.cc.uop.edu) Received: from localhost (bford@localhost) by tiger.cc.uop.edu (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA23489 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:42:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:42:51 -0800 (PST) From: Bret Ford X-Sender: bford@tiger.cc.uop.edu To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Struggling to get in-addr.arpa working Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org My ISP, at my request, delegated to me the responsibility for address -> name mapping in my domain. I have a DSL connection with 6 IPs (including the gateway). I am having no end of problems getting it to work. I've gotten it completely screwed up. If there is anyone out there who has a moment to straighten out my named.conf and zone file mess, I'd really really appreciate it. I've pored over RFC2317 several times, and am none the wiser for it. Whatever technical facility I thought I had has been blown far far away from me, and may be lost for good. I've fiddled with this for hours. I'm frustrated. I don't even want to think about it anymore. If someone could just send me back the corrected files, I'd be (very)*(grateful)^1000. I've obviously gotten in over my head technically. My addresses are 216.102.57.9-14 Using 'dig @ns1.pbi.net -a 9.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa' and so on, I figured out how PacBell Internet has done the delegation: 9.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 2H IN CNAME 9.8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa. 10.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 2H IN CNAME 10.8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa. 11.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 2H IN CNAME 11.8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa. 12.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 2H IN CNAME 12.8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa. 13.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 2H IN CNAME 13.8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa. 14.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 2H IN CNAME 14.8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa. ...which goes from one Class B network to another. (I don't know if that's at all relevant to my problem, but... there it is anyway. At least I still know what a Class B network is (I think... ) ) Anyway, here is the most recent edition of my DNS configuration. Please please please help!!!!!!! Thank you!!!!!!! ---------------------------------------- named.conf ---------------------------------------- options { directory "/var/named"; }; zone "plover.org" { type master; file "namedb/db.plover"; }; zone "8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa" { type master; file "namedb/db.reverse"; }; zone "0.0.127.in-addr.arpa" { type master; file "namedb/db.127.0.0"; }; zone "." { type hint; file "namedb/db.cache"; }; ---------------------------------------- db.plover ---------------------------------------- plover.org. IN SOA dante.plover.org. bford.dante.plover.org. ( 1999113009 ; Serial 10800 ; Refresh after 3 hours 3600 ; Retry after 1 hour 604800 ; Expire after 1 week 7200 ) ; Default TTL of 2 hours plover.org. IN NS dante.plover.org. plover.org. IN NS ns1.pbi.net. localhost.plover.org. 3600 IN A 127.0.0.1 gateway.plover.org. 3600 IN A 216.102.57.9 heather.plover.org. 3600 IN A 216.102.57.10 thorin.plover.org. 3600 IN A 216.102.57.11 advent.plover.org. 3600 IN A 216.102.57.12 dante.plover.org. 3600 IN A 216.102.57.13 plover.org. IN MX 10 dante.plover.org. advent.plover.org. IN MX 10 dante.plover.org. daman.plover.org. 3600 IN A 216.102.57.14 www IN CNAME advent.plover.org. ftp.plover.org. IN CNAME advent.plover.org. ---------------------------------------- db.reverse ---------------------------------------- @ IN SOA dante.plover.org. bford.dante.plover.org. ( 1999113010 ; Serial 10800 ; Refresh after 3 hours 3600 ; Retry after 1 hour 604800 ; Expire after 1 week 7200 ) ; Default TTL of 2 hours NS dante.plover.org. 9.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR gateway.plover.org. 10.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR heather.plover.org. 11.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR thorin.plover.org. 12.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR advent.plover.org. 13.8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR 13.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 13.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR dante.plover.org. 14.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR daman.plover.org. ---------------------------------------- The End To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 30 19:53:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from guardian.fortress.org (guardian-ext.fortress.org [199.202.137.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13BD14E06 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:53:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@pubnix.net) Received: from pubnix.net (guardian.fortress.org [198.168.253.52]) by guardian.fortress.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA23488; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:52:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from andrew@pubnix.net) Message-ID: <38449B97.CAFA99DC@pubnix.net> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:52:55 -0500 From: Andrew Organization: PubNIX Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bret Ford , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Struggling to get in-addr.arpa working References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org One tiny detail, you can't delegate a subnet of a class C. The smallest thing that is delegable ends in .0 You COULD (big hack) try and setup individual reverse zone files for EACH address, i.e. 9.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa, 10.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa, etc and put each name in there. For example: rev.216.102.57.9 ---------------------------------------- @ IN SOA dante.plover.org. bford.dante.plover.org. ( 1999113010 ; Serial 10800 ; Refresh after 3 hours 3600 ; Retry after 1 hour 604800 ; Expire after 1 week 7200 ) ; Default TTL of 2 hours NS dante.plover.org. 9.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR gateway.plover.org. rev.216.102.57.10 ---------------------------------------- @ IN SOA dante.plover.org. bford.dante.plover.org. ( 1999113010 ; Serial 10800 ; Refresh after 3 hours 3600 ; Retry after 1 hour 604800 ; Expire after 1 week 7200 ) ; Default TTL of 2 hours NS dante.plover.org. 10.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR heather.plover.org. and in your named.conf, you'd put... zone "9.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa" { type master; file "namedb/rev.216.105.57.9"; }; zone "10.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa" { type master; file "namedb/rev.216.105.57.10"; }; etc... Bret Ford wrote: > My ISP, at my request, delegated to me the responsibility for > address -> name mapping in my domain. I have a DSL connection with 6 IPs > (including the gateway). I am having no end of problems getting it to > work. I've gotten it completely screwed up. If there is anyone out there > who has a moment to straighten out my named.conf and zone file mess, I'd > really really appreciate it. I've pored over RFC2317 several times, and > am none the wiser for it. Whatever technical facility I thought I had has > been blown far far away from me, and may be lost for good. I've fiddled > with this for hours. I'm frustrated. I don't even want to think about it > anymore. If someone could just send me back the corrected files, I'd be > (very)*(grateful)^1000. I've obviously gotten in over my head > technically. > > My addresses are 216.102.57.9-14 > > Using 'dig @ns1.pbi.net -a 9.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa' and so on, I > figured out how PacBell Internet has done the delegation: > > 9.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 2H IN CNAME 9.8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa. > 10.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 2H IN CNAME 10.8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa. > 11.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 2H IN CNAME 11.8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa. > 12.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 2H IN CNAME 12.8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa. > 13.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 2H IN CNAME 13.8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa. > 14.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 2H IN CNAME 14.8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa. > > ...which goes from one Class B network to another. (I don't know if > that's at all relevant to my problem, but... there it is anyway. At > least I still know what a Class B network is (I think... ) ) > > Anyway, here is the most recent edition of my DNS configuration. Please > please please help!!!!!!! Thank you!!!!!!! > > ---------------------------------------- > named.conf > ---------------------------------------- > > options { > directory "/var/named"; > }; > > zone "plover.org" { > type master; > file "namedb/db.plover"; > }; > > zone "8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa" { > type master; > file "namedb/db.reverse"; > }; > > zone "0.0.127.in-addr.arpa" { > type master; > file "namedb/db.127.0.0"; > }; > > zone "." { > type hint; > file "namedb/db.cache"; > }; > ---------------------------------------- > db.plover > ---------------------------------------- > plover.org. IN SOA dante.plover.org. bford.dante.plover.org. ( > 1999113009 ; Serial > 10800 ; Refresh after 3 hours > 3600 ; Retry after 1 hour > 604800 ; Expire after 1 week > 7200 ) ; Default TTL of 2 hours > > plover.org. IN NS dante.plover.org. > plover.org. IN NS ns1.pbi.net. > > localhost.plover.org. 3600 IN A 127.0.0.1 > gateway.plover.org. 3600 IN A 216.102.57.9 > heather.plover.org. 3600 IN A 216.102.57.10 > thorin.plover.org. 3600 IN A 216.102.57.11 > advent.plover.org. 3600 IN A 216.102.57.12 > dante.plover.org. 3600 IN A 216.102.57.13 > plover.org. IN MX 10 dante.plover.org. > advent.plover.org. IN MX 10 dante.plover.org. > daman.plover.org. 3600 IN A 216.102.57.14 > > www IN CNAME advent.plover.org. > ftp.plover.org. IN CNAME advent.plover.org. > ---------------------------------------- > db.reverse > ---------------------------------------- > @ IN SOA dante.plover.org. bford.dante.plover.org. ( > 1999113010 ; Serial > 10800 ; Refresh after 3 hours > 3600 ; Retry after 1 hour > 604800 ; Expire after 1 week > 7200 ) ; Default TTL of 2 hours > > NS dante.plover.org. > > 9.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR gateway.plover.org. > 10.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR heather.plover.org. > 11.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR thorin.plover.org. > 12.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR advent.plover.org. > 13.8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR 13.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. > 13.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR dante.plover.org. > 14.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR daman.plover.org. > ---------------------------------------- > The End > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 30 19:56:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sneakerz.org (sneakerz.org [208.176.135.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8741214E06 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:56:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dave@sneakerz.org) Received: (qmail 22210 invoked by uid 1004); 1 Dec 1999 03:51:48 -0000 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:51:48 -0800 From: Dave McKay To: Bret Ford Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Struggling to get in-addr.arpa working Message-ID: <19991130195148.A22082@sneakerz.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Bret Ford on Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 07:42:51PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > ---------------------------------------- > named.conf > ---------------------------------------- > > options { > directory "/var/named"; > }; > > zone "plover.org" { > type master; > file "namedb/db.plover"; > }; > > zone "8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa" { I don't really have time to explain the whole concept, but one thing I do know is that that zone is not going to work. You probably need something like 28.8/57.105.216.in-addr.arpa for your zone entry. > type master; > file "namedb/db.reverse"; > }; > > zone "0.0.127.in-addr.arpa" { > type master; > file "namedb/db.127.0.0"; > }; > > zone "." { > type hint; > file "namedb/db.cache"; > }; -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave McKay dave@sneakerz.org MSN Hotmail http://www.hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 30 20: 2:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sneakerz.org (sneakerz.org [208.176.135.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 943B4150D1 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:02:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dave@sneakerz.org) Received: (qmail 22231 invoked by uid 1004); 1 Dec 1999 03:57:49 -0000 Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:57:49 -0800 From: Dave McKay To: Andrew Cc: Bret Ford , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Struggling to get in-addr.arpa working Message-ID: <19991130195749.B22082@sneakerz.org> References: <38449B97.CAFA99DC@pubnix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <38449B97.CAFA99DC@pubnix.net>; from Andrew on Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 10:52:55PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 10:52:55PM -0500, Andrew wrote: > One tiny detail, you can't delegate a subnet of a class C. The smallest thing that Sneakerz.org does not have a /24 and it is fully delegated from concentric. Small delegation is rather easy. Since we all are wondering how to do this, I'll give an example. The following is an example of how to setup a network with 16 ips on it. ########named.conf######### zone "224/28.135.176.208.in-addr.arpa."{ This is a proper example of a network starting with 208.176.135.224. The /28 denotes 16 ips. The rest should be pretty standard. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave McKay dave@sneakerz.org MSN Hotmail http://www.hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 30 20:12:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from quaggy.ursine.com (lambda.blueneptune.com [209.133.45.179]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B7114F25 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:12:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fbsd-isp@ursine.com) Received: from michael (lambda.ursine.com [209.133.45.69]) by quaggy.ursine.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA50120; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:12:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <199911302012390690.44900211@quaggy.ursine.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.00.00.13 (2) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:12:39 -0800 From: "Michael Bryan" To: "Bret Ford" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Struggling to get in-addr.arpa working Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Using 'dig @ns1.pbi.net -a 9.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa' and so on, I >figured out how PacBell Internet has done the delegation: > > 9.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 2H IN CNAME 9.8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa. >10.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 2H IN CNAME 10.8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa. >11.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 2H IN CNAME 11.8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa. >12.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 2H IN CNAME 12.8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa. >13.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 2H IN CNAME 13.8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa. >14.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 2H IN CNAME 14.8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa. > >...which goes from one Class B network to another. Here's the first problem. PBI has a typo here. All of the "105" entries on the right side should be "102". You need to contact them and get them to fix this. Once they make that correction, then what you have is a new psuedo-domain, which is 8.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa, based on the first address in the delegated subnet. All of your delegated entries are under that new subdomain. >zone "8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa" { > type master; > file "namedb/db.reverse"; >}; That also needs to be "102", not "105". >---------------------------------------- >db.reverse >---------------------------------------- >@ IN SOA dante.plover.org. bford.dante.plover.org. ( > 1999113010 ; Serial > 10800 ; Refresh after 3 hours > 3600 ; Retry after 1 hour > 604800 ; Expire after 1 week > 7200 ) ; Default TTL of 2 hours > > NS dante.plover.org. > >9.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR gateway.plover.org. >10.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR heather.plover.org. >11.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR thorin.plover.org. >12.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR advent.plover.org. >13.8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR 13.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. >13.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR dante.plover.org. >14.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR daman.plover.org. >---------------------------------------- That should be as follows: 9.8.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR gateway.plover.org. 10.8.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR heather.plover.org. 11.8.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR thorin.plover.org. 12.8.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR advent.plover.org. 13.8.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR dante.plover.org. 14.8.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR daman.plover.org. So the answer is, fix the zone to be "102", not "105", make the given changes above within that zone (you have to have the "8" subdomain present), and notify PBI of their mistake. Once they have fixed their mistake, everything should be normal. I already checked, and they -do- delegate 8.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa to your system: 8.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 1H IN NS dante.plover.org. Then when a lookup is done, say on "9.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa", the following effectively describes what will happen: 1) A resolver will determine that PBI's nameservers are authoritative for 57.102.216.in-addr.arpa, and send the request there. 2) It will get back this CNAME record: 9.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa CNAME 9.8.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa 3) It will then discover that your system (dante.plover.org) is authoritative for the domain 8.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa, and do a lookup on 9.8.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa with your server. 4) It will then get back the PTR record you have setup. All lookups will eventually come to your system. You might want to see if PBI will also act as secondaries for the delegated domain, so reverse lookups can be handled by their nameservers, but that's not strictly necessary. It just provides backup service if your system is not available at some point, and is probably a good idea. Hope this helps... Michael Bryan fbsd-isp@ursine.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 30 20:18:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net (bsdie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E01014F25 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:18:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwyatt@rwsystems.net) Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.2]) (2234 bytes) by bsdie.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:14:08 -0600 (CST) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #1 built 1999-Aug-7) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 22:14:07 -0600 (CST) From: James Wyatt To: FreeBSD Cc: jahanur , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Media streaming server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, FreeBSD wrote: > OK, this inbred fucktard must not get it...I told him several times about > the mailing list charters and again he posts to -isp instead > of -questions...It's now time to filter this idiot so I don't have to see > his stupidity show through once again. maybe we'll get lucky this time and Oooo, little Johnny Pottymouth - spank! Last I looked the folks who used streaming servers were Providing Internet Services with them. Streaming servers are also something ISPs will more know more how to make work in a production setup - the gotchas. > he'll slip, in the shower(assuming he doesn't bathe in the wrong piece of > porcelain too), on his rubber penguin and break his neck. If this moron > keeps posting to the wrong list someone else can deal with him. As far as > I'm concerned he doesn't exist anymore. > > FreeBSD > freebsd@gtonet.net > > "LinSUX is only free if your time is worthless" With such an inclusive attitude, maybe you should be 'NT@gtonet.net' instead. Linux is great, so is FreeBSD. Both install well and are fairly easy to set-up and tune. I like laptop support more in Linux, but FreeBSD for packet speed and IP firewalling. Why don't you crawl back into that 'wrong piece of porcelain' until you can play well with others? - Jy@ fwiw: As I remember, the RealServer had a small-is-free license to encourage use by community radio stations, dorms, and such. If you have less than two dozen or so connects at a time, it should fit the bill. We have also used icecast to multiplex/cast MP3 streams with WinAMP and Unix MP3 players. It worked well, IIRC. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 30 20:21:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from quaggy.ursine.com (lambda.blueneptune.com [209.133.45.179]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F62314F25 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:21:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fbsd-isp@ursine.com) Received: from michael (lambda.ursine.com [209.133.45.69]) by quaggy.ursine.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA50162; Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:21:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <199911302021070860.4497C34D@quaggy.ursine.com> In-Reply-To: <19991130195148.A22082@sneakerz.org> References: <19991130195148.A22082@sneakerz.org> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.00.00.13 (2) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 20:21:07 -0800 From: "Michael Bryan" To: "Dave McKay" , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Struggling to get in-addr.arpa working Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> zone "8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa" { > >I don't really have time to explain the whole concept, but one thing I do= know is that that zone is not going to work. You probably need something= like 28.8/57.105.216.in-addr.arpa for your zone entry. Why? I've done exactly that type of setup before, and it worked just fine. Use the network address as the subdomain under which all entries eventually appear. I believe the O'Reily book even gives exactly such an example of delegating a subnet smaller than a /24. Granted, a naming convention that makes it a little more obvious as to what's going on, like "8/28.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa", has some appeal, but I don't think it's strictly necessary. Michael Bryan fbsd-isp@ursine.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 1 4:54:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2399114FD7 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 04:54:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sh@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A33B9B02; Wed, 01 Dec 1999 12:54:13 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <38451A99.37F72C38@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 12:54:49 +0000 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "J.C. Frazier" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: apache13-fp-modssl problem with passwords References: <38420BA0.BCF0E10C@csocs.com> <384327BE.114EFF85@csocs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > The solution was fairly easy. Even though FP extensions are statically > linked to the descrypt(), There is the root problem. Now, everyone run over to rtr.com and pester them :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 1 6: 0:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.fil.net (mail.fil.net [202.57.102.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B59C114D70 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 06:00:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aLan@fil.net) Received: from fil.net ([202.57.102.6]) by mail.fil.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with ESMTP id 239; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 22:00:05 +0800 Message-ID: <384529E8.8700AAEB@fil.net> Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 22:00:08 +0800 From: "aLan Tait" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, bright@wintelcom.net Subject: Re: Glad he's gone! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Frankly Jonathan, I am glad he is gone. I mistook him for someone official with his fake address. I realized with your email that I wasn't banded from the list as he said. I assumed he told the truth... so I just didn't post! Now I realize I just didn't post because of his email! Okay, I'm not to bright! This is the guy that almost flushed six months of working with a Congressman to get FreeBSD a permanent place in the Philippines. All with his bad email (see how powerful email can be!). Happy to report that the Congressman's still sending people to check on the WinNT to FreeBSD conversion project. AND I am still at it! You know, I want to say one more thing... I started this conversion six months ago with a book and a set of 3.1 disks. So far we've converted everything in this little ISP from WinNT to FreeBSD except the proxy and the email, and Squid will be up at least by the end of the week. But the real credit goes to about four dozen people, just like most of the people on this list (in fact I could name people on this list!) who took the time to answer questions. Today, FreeBSD had almost 16% of the ISP's in our province (that's one) and everyone - including the other five ISP's agree the FreeBSD is better. Two Internet cafes have two computer here to learn how to replace their NT servers! I just want to say thanks to all those great guys and gals who have helped... It is GREAT to be here! To those people who especially help with the last problem (cgiemail and apache and sendmail) Your Help was wonderful. I would have said so sooner, but I (foolishly) believed I wasn't allowed to post. Forgive me, I am still new too. Thank You very much! Blessings to all... aLan From the FAKE list Administrator ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ FreeBSD wrote: > > You do whatever you feel you need to, I *WONT* be changing my username. I've > already unsubscribed from -isp and -hackers > > FreeBSD > freebsd@gtonet.net > > "LinSUX is only free if your time is worthless" > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:jmb@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jonathan M. > > Bresler > > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 4:42 PM > > To: freebsd@gtonet.net > > Cc: jahanur@jjsoft.com; freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: Media streaming server > > > > > > > > > > OK, this inbred fucktard must not get it...I told him several > > times about > > > the mailing list charters and again he posts to -isp instead > > > > your behavior is not appropriate for the FreeBSD mailing > > lists. Please do not behave in this manner in our lists. If you > > persist in this behavior, I will ban you from all the FreeBSD mailing > > lists. > > > > If you insist on behaving in this manner outside the FreeBSD > > mailing lists, please change your username from "freebsd" to something > > else. We do not want FreeBSD associated with intolerance. > > > > jmb > > -- > > Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Core Team, Postmaster > > jmb@FreeBSD.ORG > > FreeBSD--The Power to Serve JMB193 > > http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 1 6:10:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.fil.net (mail.fil.net [202.57.102.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A25A15012 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 06:10:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aLan@fil.net) Received: from fil.net ([202.57.102.6]) by mail.fil.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with ESMTP id 155; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 22:10:14 +0800 Message-ID: <38452C4B.867EF5BC@fil.net> Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 22:10:19 +0800 From: "aLan Tait" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bret Ford Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Struggling to get in-addr.arpa working References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Bret! I'm glad you found your way over here. Hey guys, I tried to figure this one out over on the questions list. But I can't figure why they are switching him from 216.102.x.x to 216.105.x.x??? I'm usually good with DNS, and have set up two classless systems, but I haven't seen it done this way... Or an RFC to this effect! And what about the in-addr.arpa's for the 216.105.x.x IP's? It just doesn't make since! Any ideas? aLan Bret Ford wrote: > > My ISP, at my request, delegated to me the responsibility for > address -> name mapping in my domain. I have a DSL connection with 6 IPs > (including the gateway). I am having no end of problems getting it to > work. I've gotten it completely screwed up. If there is anyone out there > who has a moment to straighten out my named.conf and zone file mess, I'd > really really appreciate it. I've pored over RFC2317 several times, and > am none the wiser for it. Whatever technical facility I thought I had has > been blown far far away from me, and may be lost for good. I've fiddled > with this for hours. I'm frustrated. I don't even want to think about it > anymore. If someone could just send me back the corrected files, I'd be > (very)*(grateful)^1000. I've obviously gotten in over my head > technically. > > My addresses are 216.102.57.9-14 > > Using 'dig @ns1.pbi.net -a 9.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa' and so on, I > figured out how PacBell Internet has done the delegation: > > 9.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 2H IN CNAME 9.8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa. > 10.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 2H IN CNAME 10.8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa. > 11.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 2H IN CNAME 11.8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa. > 12.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 2H IN CNAME 12.8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa. > 13.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 2H IN CNAME 13.8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa. > 14.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 2H IN CNAME 14.8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa. > > ...which goes from one Class B network to another. (I don't know if > that's at all relevant to my problem, but... there it is anyway. At > least I still know what a Class B network is (I think... ) ) > > Anyway, here is the most recent edition of my DNS configuration. Please > please please help!!!!!!! Thank you!!!!!!! > > ---------------------------------------- > named.conf > ---------------------------------------- > > options { > directory "/var/named"; > }; > > zone "plover.org" { > type master; > file "namedb/db.plover"; > }; > > zone "8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa" { > type master; > file "namedb/db.reverse"; > }; > > zone "0.0.127.in-addr.arpa" { > type master; > file "namedb/db.127.0.0"; > }; > > zone "." { > type hint; > file "namedb/db.cache"; > }; > ---------------------------------------- > db.plover > ---------------------------------------- > plover.org. IN SOA dante.plover.org. bford.dante.plover.org. ( > 1999113009 ; Serial > 10800 ; Refresh after 3 hours > 3600 ; Retry after 1 hour > 604800 ; Expire after 1 week > 7200 ) ; Default TTL of 2 hours > > plover.org. IN NS dante.plover.org. > plover.org. IN NS ns1.pbi.net. > > localhost.plover.org. 3600 IN A 127.0.0.1 > gateway.plover.org. 3600 IN A 216.102.57.9 > heather.plover.org. 3600 IN A 216.102.57.10 > thorin.plover.org. 3600 IN A 216.102.57.11 > advent.plover.org. 3600 IN A 216.102.57.12 > dante.plover.org. 3600 IN A 216.102.57.13 > plover.org. IN MX 10 dante.plover.org. > advent.plover.org. IN MX 10 dante.plover.org. > daman.plover.org. 3600 IN A 216.102.57.14 > > www IN CNAME advent.plover.org. > ftp.plover.org. IN CNAME advent.plover.org. > ---------------------------------------- > db.reverse > ---------------------------------------- > @ IN SOA dante.plover.org. bford.dante.plover.org. ( > 1999113010 ; Serial > 10800 ; Refresh after 3 hours > 3600 ; Retry after 1 hour > 604800 ; Expire after 1 week > 7200 ) ; Default TTL of 2 hours > > NS dante.plover.org. > > 9.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR gateway.plover.org. > 10.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR heather.plover.org. > 11.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR thorin.plover.org. > 12.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR advent.plover.org. > 13.8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR 13.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. > 13.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR dante.plover.org. > 14.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR daman.plover.org. > ---------------------------------------- > The End > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 1 9:50:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from java.dpcsys.com (java.dpcsys.com [206.16.184.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF86014BF6 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 09:50:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@dpcsys.com) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by java.dpcsys.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA07337; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 09:33:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 09:33:09 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Busarow Reply-To: Dan Busarow To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Bret Ford Subject: Re: Struggling to get in-addr.arpa working In-Reply-To: <199911302012390690.44900211@quaggy.ursine.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Michael Bryan wrote: > On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Bret Ford wrote: > >11.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR thorin.plover.org. > >12.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR advent.plover.org. > >13.8.57.105.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR 13.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. > >13.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR dante.plover.org. > >14.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR daman.plover.org. > >---------------------------------------- > > That should be as follows: > > 9.8.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR gateway.plover.org. > 10.8.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR heather.plover.org. > 11.8.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR thorin.plover.org. > 12.8.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR advent.plover.org. > 13.8.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR dante.plover.org. > 14.8.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR daman.plover.org. Absolutely correct. And Bret can also make his life even easier by using the shorthand form for entries. Once he fixes his named.conf zone line so it reads zone "8.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa" { the PTR records can be shortened to the more natural 9 3600 IN PTR gateway.plover.org. 10 3600 IN PTR heather.plover.org. 11 3600 IN PTR thorin.plover.org. 12 3600 IN PTR advent.plover.org. 13 3600 IN PTR dante.plover.org. 14 3600 IN PTR daman.plover.org. and things will work just fine and it won't hurt your eyes to look at the zone file :) Dan -- Dan Busarow 949 443 4172 Dana Point Communications, Inc. dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 1 10:40:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.jjsoft.com (fig2.figdav.com [208.152.114.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B6BB14BC9 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 10:40:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jahanur@jjsoft.com) Received: from localhost (jahanur@localhost) by ns2.jjsoft.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id MAA08954; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 12:40:25 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 12:40:25 -0600 (CST) From: jahanur To: Mark Conway Wirt Cc: Stuart Henderson , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Media streaming server In-Reply-To: <19991130200747.A17859@intrepid.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes I have talked to them about it. And they told me about the basic server which is 25 concurrect connections. I think I am going to go with it. But I would like to ask you another question that you dont have to answer but it would be help ful if you do: How much extra are isp ppl charging for providing this service? Thank you very much for help. Jahanur On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Mark Conway Wirt wrote: > On Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 11:37:43PM +0000, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > > What is the best media streaming server for Freebsd. > > > > Probably RealServer, since it negotiates with clients for connection > > speed and so on. On the downside, it does work out rather expensive for > > licensing. On the upside, native FreeBSD binaries are available. > > Maybe drifting a bit off topic, but: RealServer used to be available with > 20 concurrent connections for free. Have they discontinued that policy? > > --Mark > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 1 11: 0:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.jjsoft.com (fig2.figdav.com [208.152.114.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 757871509B; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 11:00:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jahanur@jjsoft.com) Received: from localhost (jahanur@localhost) by ns2.jjsoft.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id NAA09010; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 13:00:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 13:00:39 -0600 (CST) From: jahanur To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Media streaming server In-Reply-To: <19991201010747.18BFE15A23@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks. I dont know how to thank you folks, specially Jonathan. He (the list member, Freebsd) has been bothering me for last two days, Also with personal email. Like others I mistook him as the Authoriry of this mail list and keep apologising for wrong questions, but I had a doubt that he could not be Part of the authority because he was useing very obscene language. I am happy that ppl in this list are really helpful. I dont know how much to Thank You. I have no words. Thanks a billion. Justice was done. Jahanur On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 > > > > You do whatever you feel you need to, I *WONT* be changing my username. I've > > already unsubscribed from -isp and -hackers > > The FreeBSD mailing lists are the primary means that > developers and users communicate with each other. Personal attacks on > people in the mailing lists impede that communication both at the time > that the personal attack takes place and in the future when others are > deterred from communicating due to the fear fo ridicule. > > We welcome people to the mailing lists, and will welcome your > return, if and only if, you will refrain from ridiculing other people > in the mailing lists. > > jmb > -- > Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Core Team, Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG > FreeBSD--The Power to Serve JMB193 http://www.freebsd.org/ > PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 1 11:55: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from loki.intrepid.net (intrepid.net [204.71.127.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA278150EE for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 11:54:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@loki.intrepid.net) Received: (from mark@localhost) by loki.intrepid.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA03540; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 14:54:23 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 14:54:23 -0500 From: Mark Conway Wirt To: jahanur Cc: Stuart Henderson , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Media streaming server Message-ID: <19991201145423.G25021@intrepid.net> References: <19991130200747.A17859@intrepid.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from jahanur@jjsoft.com on Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 12:40:25PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 12:40:25PM -0600, jahanur wrote: > > Yes I have talked to them about it. And they told me about the basic > server which is 25 concurrect connections. > I think I am going to go with it. > But I would like to ask you another question that you dont have to answer > but it would be help ful if you do: How much extra are isp ppl charging > for providing this service? Well, unless it's a heavy site and imposes some pretty strict constraints on your hardware platform, charging it via bandwidth utilization seems reasonable. I think at this point most -- if not all -- ISPs have a vehicle for charging the customer for "excess" bandwidth utilization. Provided that you have a way to enforce it, that would probably be sufficient. If it's not, you may want to look at your bandwidth policies. --Mark -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 1 15:40:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.fil.net (mail.fil.net [202.57.102.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 253B915170 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 15:40:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aLan@fil.net) Received: from fil.net ([202.57.102.6]) by mail.fil.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with ESMTP id 199; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 07:38:41 +0800 Message-ID: <3845B185.FDCE4064@fil.net> Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 07:38:45 +0800 From: "aLan Tait" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Web-Based Qmail? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Martin wrote: > > Hello aLan > > On 01-Dec-99, you wrote: > > > > > To those people who especially help with the last problem > > (cgiemail and apache and sendmail) Your Help was > > wonderful. > > > > Blessings to all... > > > > aLan > > > > I would suggest, most strongly, that you switch to qmail > http://www.qmail.org > for your mail server. > > For mailing lists, use the corresponding programme, ezmlm > http://www.ezmlm.org > > You can also find that link on the qmail page. > > Sendmail is notoriously insecure due to fundamental design flaws. These flaws > are patched every time a hole is found, but the same flaws are there so more > holes are found later. Sendmail is a very large monolithic (single) > programme, qmail is small, runs with different groupings and is modular in > the Unix tradition. > > Check it out and give it a try, you'll be pleasantly surprised. > > Good work you've been doing by the way. > > Regards...Martin > > -- > Reality is for people who lack imagination. Hi Martin! Thanks for the tip... The server in question is only "sending" email - the daily/weekly Charlie Root reports and a sign-up form for our tiny ISP. IP Filter on another box will block any incoming mail. The reason is simple, sendmail auto loads with fBSD! I do plan to use qmail for our email server, but I need to find a good web-based "hot-mail" type attachment as most of our customers are I-cafe based and can't reconfig their machines for pop3 service all the time. "Good" in this case means it works and it is free! Any Suggestions? aLan Tait -- I switched from When?Doze NT - I never knew "When?" is was going to "Doze!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 1 15:58:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.fil.net (mail.fil.net [202.57.102.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB58714A09 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 15:58:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aLan@fil.net) Received: from fil.net ([202.57.102.6]) by mail.fil.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with ESMTP id 198; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 07:57:28 +0800 Message-ID: <3845B5EB.FE52F2F@fil.net> Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 07:57:31 +0800 From: "aLan Tait" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Mark Conway Wirt , Stuart Henderson Subject: Relay Media streaming server References: <19991130200747.A17859@intrepid.net> <19991201145423.G25021@intrepid.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mark Conway Wirt wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 12:40:25PM -0600, jahanur wrote: > > > > Yes I have talked to them about it. And they told me about the basic > > server which is 25 concurrect connections. > > I think I am going to go with it. > > But I would like to ask you another question that you dont have to answer > > but it would be help ful if you do: How much extra are isp ppl charging > > for providing this service? > > Well, unless it's a heavy site and imposes some pretty strict > constraints on your hardware platform, charging it via bandwidth > utilization seems reasonable. I think at this point most -- if not > all -- ISPs have a vehicle for charging the customer for "excess" > bandwidth utilization. Provided that you have a way to enforce it, > that would probably be sufficient. If it's not, you may want to look > at your bandwidth policies. > > --Mark > -- Does anyone know if you could relay this? I run a tiny ISP in the Philippines where bandwidth prices a super high (64 Kbps = US$4,000). I would like to supply the Pinoys (Filipinos) around the world a chance to listen to a local radio station, but frankly, the bandwidth cost too much. What I was thinking was if I could put out only one stream to a friendly ISP in the USA (where bandwidth is very cheap) maybe it could be relayed there and I could give a little bit of "home" to a number of overseas workers just trying to make a living for their families back home. For example, my site (http://fil.net) is also mirrored in the USA on Pair Networks... Would it be possible to establish say a radio.fil.net somewhere that could take my one radio stream and feed it to a number of requesters. I doubt the bandwidth would be that high. I could even switch stations on a daily basis... DYMY on Sunday, DYSR on Monday, DYEM on Tuesday... etc. Any ideas? Any friendly ISP's like a 3rd world project? aLan -- I switched from When?Doze NT... I never knew "When?" It was going to "Doze!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 1 18:12:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from 24-25-220-29.san.rr.com (24-25-220-29.san.rr.com [24.25.220.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40E914F42 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 18:12:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gateway.gorean.org (gateway.gorean.org [10.0.0.1]) by 24-25-220-29.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA55028; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 18:10:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 18:09:44 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Barton X-Sender: doug@24-25-220-29.san.rr.com To: aLan Tait Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, Mark Conway Wirt , Stuart Henderson Subject: Re: Relay Media streaming server In-Reply-To: <3845B5EB.FE52F2F@fil.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, aLan Tait wrote: > Does anyone know if you could relay this? I run a tiny ISP > in the Philippines where bandwidth prices a super high (64 > Kbps = US$4,000). I would like to supply the Pinoys > (Filipinos) around the world a chance to listen to a local > radio station, but frankly, the bandwidth cost too much. > What I was thinking was if I could put out only one stream > to a friendly ISP in the USA (where bandwidth is very cheap) > maybe it could be relayed there and I could give a little > bit of "home" to a number of overseas workers just trying to > make a living for their families back home. You can contact Yahoo! Broadcast Services about this, http://www.broadcast.com/. As far as I know they can set up this type of thing for you. I hope you're not expecting to get it for free though... streaming media b/w is very expensive, even in the US where it's a lot cheaper than what you're paying. Good luck, Doug -- "Welcome to the desert of the real." - Laurence Fishburne as Morpheus, "The Matrix" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 1 18:44:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from showcase.pdsys.com (showcase.pdsys.com [207.167.12.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 417F11502F for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 18:44:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@pdsys.com) Received: from dooley ([24.108.11.34]) by showcase.pdsys.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-56457U100L100S0V35) with SMTP id com; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 19:43:59 -0700 From: "Jim Whitelaw" To: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" , "aLan Tait" Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 19:43:05 -0700 Reply-To: "Jim Whitelaw" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2000) For Windows NT (4.0.1381;5) In-Reply-To: <3845B5EB.FE52F2F@fil.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Relay Media streaming server Message-ID: <19991202024359875.AAA212@showcase.pdsys.com@dooley> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 02 Dec 1999 07:57:31 +0800, aLan Tait wrote: >What I was thinking was if I could put out only one stream >to a friendly ISP in the USA (where bandwidth is very cheap) >maybe it could be relayed there and I could give a little >bit of "home" to a number of overseas workers just trying to >make a living for their families back home. Check out live365.com. They offer a free service that will do just what you want. They will relay a live stream for you for up to 100 client connections using shoutcast (streaming mp3). They will also give you 365MB of space on a server to store .mp3 files for broadcast by their servers. (Their main servers are Solaris, but I thought I read somewhere that they also use FreeBSD on some systems). You can use the shoutcast server or icecast server (open source shoutcast compatible server) on FreeBSD. Or you can use a prog that comes with the icecast package called shout to broadcast files on disk instead of requiring WinAMP or another mp3 player to stream to the shoutcast/icecast server. I've used both the shoutcast and icecast servers as well as shout on FreeBSD 3.2 and 3.3 with good success. Shoutcast streams can be played by WinAmp, Sonique, RealPlayerG2 and Windows Media Player on Windows, xmms on *nix, and Audion and others on Macintosh. They generally sound much better than RealAudio streams. All the software you need to start broadcasting from either pre-recorded or live audio sources is available for free. References: http://www.shoutcast.com/ http://www.live365.com/ http://www.icecast.org/ http://www.xmms.org/ http://www.winamp.com/ ========================================================================= Jim Whitelaw tel: +1.780.975.1534 jim-at-pdsys-dot-com fax: +1.780.484.9239 Pathways Data Systems Inc. http://www.pdsys.com/ ========================================================================= "It is best to assume that the network is filled with malevolent entities that will send packets designed to have the worst possible effect." - F.Baker, RFC1812 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBOEXcuSo2mWE/JSfJEQKnkACfYmVuDWx0xheHTxuL03MoRckT32AAnj6I rYuEOy7HehnxxJqPCkFrpCmA =qKGq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 1 18:59:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.fil.net (mail.fil.net [202.57.102.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E2DA14F1C for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 18:59:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aLan@fil.net) Received: from fil.net ([202.57.102.6]) by mail.fil.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with ESMTP id 186; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 10:58:14 +0800 Message-ID: <3845E043.BB793AF@fil.net> Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 10:58:11 +0800 From: "aLan Tait" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ronald Wiplinger Cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Relay Media streaming server References: <19991130200747.A17859@intrepid.net> <19991201145423.G25021@intrepid.net> <3845B5EB.FE52F2F@fil.net> <3845B8B8.D1DA62FF@trace.net.tw> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks, I'll give it a try! aLan Ronald Wiplinger wrote: > > Maybe you want to look at http://www.live365.com > > It is free to relay there!!! > (100 streams only, with a max of 56k !!! THAT IS ALL YOUR BANDWIDTH YOU HAVE > ANYWAY ;-) ) > > bye > > Ronald > > aLan Tait wrote: > > > Mark Conway Wirt wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 12:40:25PM -0600, jahanur wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes I have talked to them about it. And they told me about the basic > > > > server which is 25 concurrect connections. > > > > I think I am going to go with it. > > > > But I would like to ask you another question that you dont have to answer > > > > but it would be help ful if you do: How much extra are isp ppl charging > > > > for providing this service? > > > > > > Well, unless it's a heavy site and imposes some pretty strict > > > constraints on your hardware platform, charging it via bandwidth > > > utilization seems reasonable. I think at this point most -- if not > > > all -- ISPs have a vehicle for charging the customer for "excess" > > > bandwidth utilization. Provided that you have a way to enforce it, > > > that would probably be sufficient. If it's not, you may want to look > > > at your bandwidth policies. > > > > > > --Mark > > > -- > > > > Does anyone know if you could relay this? I run a tiny ISP > > in the Philippines where bandwidth prices a super high (64 > > Kbps = US$4,000). I would like to supply the Pinoys > > (Filipinos) around the world a chance to listen to a local > > radio station, but frankly, the bandwidth cost too much. > > What I was thinking was if I could put out only one stream > > to a friendly ISP in the USA (where bandwidth is very cheap) > > maybe it could be relayed there and I could give a little > > bit of "home" to a number of overseas workers just trying to > > make a living for their families back home. > > > > For example, my site (http://fil.net) is also mirrored in > > the USA on Pair Networks... Would it be possible to > > establish say a radio.fil.net somewhere that could take my > > one radio stream and feed it to a number of requesters. I > > doubt the bandwidth would be that high. > > > > I could even switch stations on a daily basis... DYMY on > > Sunday, DYSR on Monday, DYEM on Tuesday... etc. > > > > Any ideas? Any friendly ISP's like a 3rd world project? > > > > aLan > > -- > > I switched from When?Doze NT... > > I never knew "When?" > > It was going to "Doze!" > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 1 19: 2:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.fil.net (mail.fil.net [202.57.102.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 771C71522C for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 19:02:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aLan@fil.net) Received: from fil.net ([202.57.102.6]) by mail.fil.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with ESMTP id 155; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 11:00:14 +0800 Message-ID: <3845E0BC.83122120@fil.net> Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 11:00:12 +0800 From: "aLan Tait" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Whitelaw Cc: "freebsd-isp@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Relay Media streaming server References: <19991202024359875.AAA212@showcase.pdsys.com@dooley> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You guys are the best! aLan Jim Whitelaw wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thu, 02 Dec 1999 07:57:31 +0800, aLan Tait wrote: > > >What I was thinking was if I could put out only one stream > >to a friendly ISP in the USA (where bandwidth is very cheap) > >maybe it could be relayed there and I could give a little > >bit of "home" to a number of overseas workers just trying to > >make a living for their families back home. > > Check out live365.com. They offer a free service that will do just what you > want. They will relay a live stream for you for up to 100 client connections > using shoutcast (streaming mp3). They will also give you 365MB of space on a > server to store .mp3 files for broadcast by their servers. (Their main > servers are Solaris, but I thought I read somewhere that they also use > FreeBSD on some systems). > > You can use the shoutcast server or icecast server (open source shoutcast > compatible server) on FreeBSD. Or you can use a prog that comes with the > icecast package called shout to broadcast files on disk instead of requiring > WinAMP or another mp3 player to stream to the shoutcast/icecast server. I've > used both the shoutcast and icecast servers as well as shout on FreeBSD 3.2 > and 3.3 with good success. > > Shoutcast streams can be played by WinAmp, Sonique, RealPlayerG2 and Windows > Media Player on Windows, xmms on *nix, and Audion and others on Macintosh. > They generally sound much better than RealAudio streams. All the software you > need to start broadcasting from either pre-recorded or live audio sources is > available for free. > > References: > > http://www.shoutcast.com/ > http://www.live365.com/ > http://www.icecast.org/ > http://www.xmms.org/ > http://www.winamp.com/ > > ========================================================================= > Jim Whitelaw tel: +1.780.975.1534 > jim-at-pdsys-dot-com fax: +1.780.484.9239 > Pathways Data Systems Inc. http://www.pdsys.com/ > ========================================================================= > "It is best to assume that the network is filled with malevolent entities > that will send packets designed to have the worst possible effect." > - F.Baker, RFC1812 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. > > iQA/AwUBOEXcuSo2mWE/JSfJEQKnkACfYmVuDWx0xheHTxuL03MoRckT32AAnj6I > rYuEOy7HehnxxJqPCkFrpCmA > =qKGq > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 1 21:30:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cd.oneway.net (cd.oneway.net [203.75.146.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C00E14A03 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 21:30:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from serge@oneway.net) Received: (qmail 25173 invoked from network); 2 Dec 1999 05:30:20 -0000 Received: from dhcp02.oneway.net (HELO master) (192.168.0.11) by f1.oneway.net with SMTP; 2 Dec 1999 05:30:20 -0000 Message-ID: <000501bf3af4$0598e280$0b00a8c0@oneway.net> Reply-To: "HSIAO Hsueh-cheng" From: "HSIAO Hsueh-cheng" To: Subject: RISCom/N2 ? Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 13:30:32 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks , Does somebody know the web site of this product 'RISCom/N2 hdlc sync 1/2 port V.35/X.21 serial driver' Thanx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Dec 1 21:50:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from iohost.com (io001.iohost.com [209.189.124.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B218B14A03 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 21:50:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from randyk@ccsales.com) Received: from rknt2 (w146.z206111055.lax-ca.dsl.cnc.net [206.111.55.146]) by iohost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA14203; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 21:50:28 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991201215022.051a78d0@ccsales.com> X-Sender: randyk@ccsales.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 21:50:22 -0800 To: "HSIAO Hsueh-cheng" , From: "Randy A. Katz" Subject: Re: RISCom/N2 ? In-Reply-To: <000501bf3af4$0598e280$0b00a8c0@oneway.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org http://www.sdlcomm.com/ At 01:30 PM 11/30/99 +0800, HSIAO Hsueh-cheng wrote: >Hi folks , > >Does somebody know the web site of this product > >'RISCom/N2 hdlc sync 1/2 port V.35/X.21 serial driver' > >Thanx > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 2 5:16:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dante.plover.org (dante.plover.org [216.102.57.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D4A914BD4 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 05:16:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bford@plover.org) Received: from HEATHER (heather.plover.org [216.102.57.10]) by dante.plover.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA10135 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 05:16:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <002701bf3cc7$75971fa0$0a3966d8@HEATHER> From: "Bret Ford" To: Subject: Update on my in-addr.arpa troubles Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 05:16:35 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, thanks to the friendly folks of freebsd-isp, I've gotten everything straightened out. PacBell Internet had typo'd their delegation to me. With that fixed, and with a few minor edits to my named.conf and zone files, everything now seems to be in good working order. I'm including my configuration as a beacon of hope to a new generation of networking newbies! It can be done! :-) Here they are: p.s. Thanks again everybody! ---------------------------------------- named.conf ---------------------------------------- options { directory "/var/named"; }; zone "plover.org" { type master; file "namedb/db.plover"; }; zone "8.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa" { type master; file "namedb/db.reverse"; }; zone "0.0.127.in-addr.arpa" { type master; file "namedb/db.127.0.0"; }; zone "." { type hint; file "namedb/db.cache"; }; ---------------------------------------- db.plover ---------------------------------------- $ORIGIN plover.org. plover.org. IN SOA dante.plover.org. bford.dante.plover.org. ( 2811332841 ; Serial 3600 ; Refresh after 1 hour 1800 ; Retry after 30 minutes 604800 ; Expire after 1 week 3600 ) ; Default TTL of 1 hour plover.org. IN NS dante.plover.org. plover.org. IN NS ns1.pbi.net. plover.org. IN NS ns2.pbi.net. localhost.plover.org. 3600 IN A 127.0.0.1 gateway.plover.org. 3600 IN A 216.102.57.9 heather.plover.org. 3600 IN A 216.102.57.10 thorin.plover.org. 3600 IN A 216.102.57.11 advent.plover.org. 3600 IN A 216.102.57.12 dante.plover.org. 3600 IN A 216.102.57.13 plover.org. IN MX 10 dante.plover.org. daman.plover.org. 3600 IN A 216.102.57.14 www IN CNAME advent.plover.org. ftp.plover.org. IN CNAME advent.plover.org. ---------------------------------------- db.reverse ---------------------------------------- $ORIGIN 8.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. @ IN SOA dante.plover.org. bford.dante.plover.org. ( 2811332841 ; Serial 3600 ; Refresh after 1 hour 1800 ; Retry after 30 minutes 604800 ; Expire after 1 week 3600 ) ; Default TTL of 1 hour 8.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. NS dante.plover.org. 8.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. NS ns1.pbi.net. 8.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. NS ns2.pbi.net. 9.8.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR gateway.plover.org. 10.8.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR heather.plover.org. 11.8.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR thorin.plover.org. 12.8.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR advent.plover.org. 13.8.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR dante.plover.org. 14.8.57.102.216.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR daman.plover.org. ---------------------------------------- The End Bret Ford To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 2 6:43:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from host1.premier-hosting.com (host1.premier-hosting.com [206.47.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 215A314C11 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 06:43:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paul@premier-networks.com) Received: from premier-networks.com (internal-admin.premier-hosting.com [206.47.86.6]) by host1.premier-hosting.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA79010 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 09:53:28 GMT Message-ID: <384681AC.C400EA23@premier-networks.com> Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 09:26:52 -0500 From: "Paul Stewart (Premier Networks)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Gentle yet urgent request for help (FP2000) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We started into an upgrade this morning from our old Apache 1.2.6 system running Frontpage 98 extensions to Apache 1.3.9 with Frontpage 2000 extensions... We obtained the latest port from westbend.net (thank you) and everything installed quite fine.... We have upgraded all our webs etc. and no problems were reported. Even when we check permissions etc. etc... fpsrvadm.exe says there is no problems... the Httpd process is running just fine with the -DFRONTPAGE option as well... however, any webs we try to access we get an error ( you don't have permission to access .......) and we cannot basically connect to any frontpage webs... I've also been playing with some permissions to see what I can do (and possibly I've made things worse).... no luck... I really need some help on this to the point of paying someone to fix this if they can do the job today... feel free to contact me ;) other than that, please send me any suggestions you may have.. having played around quite a bit I'm concerned about security now.... Thanks very much, Paul Stewart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 2 6:52:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.fil.net (mail.fil.net [202.57.102.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C7614C11 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 06:52:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aLan@fil.net) Received: from fil.net ([202.57.102.6]) by mail.fil.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with ESMTP id 129 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 22:51:52 +0800 Message-ID: <38468786.2A78E9EF@fil.net> Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 22:51:50 +0800 From: "aLan Tait" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Chat Only??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org My partner wants us to offer a "chat only" service (no http, ftp, email) and I think I can do it with a simple filter, but am having a bit of a time locating the filter info. TCP/UDP and port info??? This is what I have... IRC TCP ports 6659-6670 and 7000 ICQ UDP port 4000 (Any others? No TCP?) Freetel Maybe TCP port 30000??? The reasoning is that if I allow all this, plus my DNS server, and deny all others at the portmaster in filter (allow all out) I'd have a resaonablely limited "chat only" service. Does anyone have any additional info that might help me here? aLan Tait -- I switched from When?Doze NT... I never knew "When?" It was going to "Doze!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 2 6:59:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from apache.vineyard.net (PRIMARY.VINEYARD.NET [199.232.92.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE60B14C9F for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 06:59:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ericx@apache.vineyard.net) Received: (from ericx@localhost) by apache.vineyard.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) id JAA06092; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 09:57:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199912021457.JAA06092@apache.vineyard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Stuart Henderson Cc: jahanur , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Media streaming server In-Reply-To: <19991130233743.C25F71339E@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> References: <19991130233743.C25F71339E@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under Emacs 19.34.1 Reply-To: "Eric W. Bates" From: "Eric W. Bates" X-Work: Vineyard.NET, Inc., Box 4249, Vineyard Haven, MA 02568-4249 X-Phone: 508/696-6688 X-Fax: 508/696-8989 Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 09:57:58 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > From: Stuart Henderson > Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:37:43 +0000 (GMT) > > > What is the best media streaming server for Freebsd. > > Probably RealServer, since it negotiates with clients for connection > speed and so on. On the downside, it does work out rather expensive for > licensing. On the upside, native FreeBSD binaries are available. > I had good luck with the RealServer, but could not get the encoder to work. Real refuses to make the older version (5.mumble) available for licensing and the G2 (version 6.mumble), called RealProducer, is not available for FreeBSD. I could not get the Linux version to run even after applying the patch for glibc2. (memory fades, but I believe it was complaining of missing libraries) Anyone successfully running the encoder? -- Eric W. Bates To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 2 7: 6: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.interact.se (smtp1.interact.se [193.15.98.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2032914BF6 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 07:05:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from je@interact.se) Received: from wolfie.interact.se (wolfie.interact.se [193.15.98.202]) by smtp.interact.se (InterACT Mailer) with ESMTP id QAA25349 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 16:07:35 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 16:05:22 +0100 (CET) From: Jonas Eriksson To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Homedirectory independent vacation Message-ID: X-Mascot: Homer Simpson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I've seen some patch to vacation to make vacation independent of users homedir's. We have alot of accounts and using /usr/forward/login as forward file. -- Jonas Eriksson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 2 7:34:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58BF014D06 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 07:34:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: from current1.whiste.com (current1.whistle.com [207.76.205.22]) by alpo.whistle.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA53574; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 07:33:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 07:33:22 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer To: "Paul Stewart (Premier Networks)" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Gentle yet urgent request for help (FP2000) In-Reply-To: <384681AC.C400EA23@premier-networks.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ktrace the server, send an FP request stop the server examine the trace, and see what the last file accessed before returning the error was. On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Paul Stewart (Premier Networks) wrote: > We started into an upgrade this morning from our old Apache 1.2.6 system > running Frontpage 98 extensions to Apache 1.3.9 with Frontpage 2000 > extensions... > > > We obtained the latest port from westbend.net (thank you) and everything > installed quite fine.... > > We have upgraded all our webs etc. and no problems were reported. Even > when we check permissions etc. etc... fpsrvadm.exe says there is no > problems... > > the Httpd process is running just fine with the -DFRONTPAGE option as > well... > > however, any webs we try to access we get an error ( you don't have > permission to access .......) and we cannot basically connect to any > frontpage webs... > > I've also been playing with some permissions to see what I can do (and > possibly I've made things worse).... no luck... > > I really need some help on this to the point of paying someone to fix > this if they can do the job today... feel free to contact me ;) > > other than that, please send me any suggestions you may have.. having > played around quite a bit I'm concerned about security now.... > > Thanks very much, > > Paul Stewart > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 2 7:49: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from systeloa.com (ns2.netquick.net [216.48.34.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB25814D72 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 07:49:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trouble@netquick.net) Received: from bastille.netquick.net ([216.48.32.159] helo=netquick.net ident=root) by systeloa.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11tYq6-0004Fn-00; Thu, 02 Dec 1999 11:12:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3846989B.6FE71493@netquick.net> Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 11:04:43 -0500 From: TrouBle Reply-To: trouble@netquick.net Organization: Hacked Furbies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: aLan Tait Cc: Martin , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Web-Based Qmail? References: <3845B185.FDCE4064@fil.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org lets see, TWIG, IMP, Post Office, and a few others do exactly what you want. > Hi Martin! > > Thanks for the tip... > > The server in question is only "sending" email - the > daily/weekly Charlie Root reports and a sign-up form for our > tiny ISP. IP Filter on another box will block any incoming > mail. The reason is simple, sendmail auto loads with fBSD! > > I do plan to use qmail for our email server, but I need to > find a good web-based "hot-mail" type attachment as most of > our customers are I-cafe based and can't reconfig their > machines for pop3 service all the time. "Good" in this case > means it works and it is free! > > Any Suggestions? > > aLan Tait > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 2 7:49:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from blackbird.lonetree.com (blackbird.lonetree.com [207.141.55.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE72D14D06 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 07:49:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wolfman@csocs.com) Received: from csocs.com [209.64.46.23] by blackbird.lonetree.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A4CB320168; Thu, 02 Dec 1999 08:48:27 -0700 Message-ID: <384695C2.AEB13573@csocs.com> Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 08:52:34 -0700 From: "J.C. Frazier" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Eric W. Bates" Cc: Stuart Henderson , jahanur , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Media streaming server References: <19991130233743.C25F71339E@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> <199912021457.JAA06092@apache.vineyard.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've had the same type of problems with realplayer. I am running an icecast daemon at the moment and it does extremely well. The only problem is that there aren't any good non-commercial codecs so you end up broadcasting at extreme rates making it near impossible for users on dial-ups to listen without a ton of skips. What I've found to be the best way to go is this: use the icecast server on your fbsd box, then broadcast from a windows box via winamp using the shoutcast plugin and the Fraunhofer codecs. These codecs are also commercial, however there is a way around it. Microsoft offers a free program called nstools, which comes with these needed codecs. Once you do that you can set it up to broadcast at better bitrates, saving on bandwidth and making it possible for almost anyone to listen. Mine is set up to broadcast at 18kbps, 16,000 khz, mono...which is equivalent of a 2kb/s ftp download. Almost anyone on any connection can sustain that and the quality is still bearable. Also, using icecast you can broadcast other people's streams and others can relay yours. That makes the daemon very versatile. Using the shoutcast plugins and better codecs you can also set winamp up to do live broadcasts or broadcast from CD's or line inputs. If you do the above you can save on bandwidth, have a good audio server running, and do it all free. Beware however of copyright laws in your local area. Broadcasting copywritten music can have many legal issues. J.C. Frazier "Eric W. Bates" wrote: > > From: Stuart Henderson > > Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:37:43 +0000 (GMT) > > > > > What is the best media streaming server for Freebsd. > > > > Probably RealServer, since it negotiates with clients for connection > > speed and so on. On the downside, it does work out rather expensive for > > licensing. On the upside, native FreeBSD binaries are available. > > > > I had good luck with the RealServer, but could not get the encoder to > work. Real refuses to make the older version (5.mumble) available for > licensing and the G2 (version 6.mumble), called RealProducer, is not > available for FreeBSD. I could not get the Linux version to run even > after applying the patch for glibc2. (memory fades, but I believe it > was complaining of missing libraries) > > Anyone successfully running the encoder? > > -- > Eric W. Bates > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 2 8:16:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from voltage.net (voltage.net [204.214.227.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA7F14CCF for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 08:16:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sward@voltage.net) Received: from arky (arky.voltage.net [204.214.227.12]) by voltage.net (Postfix) with SMTP id F324F1680A for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 10:11:05 -0600 (CST) X-Sender: sward@mail.voltage.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 10:17:06 -0600 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Susie Ward Subject: Re: Struggling to get in-addr.arpa working In-Reply-To: <19991130195749.B22082@sneakerz.org> References: <38449B97.CAFA99DC@pubnix.net> <38449B97.CAFA99DC@pubnix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <19991202161106.F324F1680A@voltage.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 07:57 PM 11/30/99 -0800, Dave McKay wrote: >Sneakerz.org does not have a /24 and it is fully delegated from >concentric. Small delegation is rather easy. Since we all are >wondering how to do this, I'll give an example. The following is >an example of how to setup a network with 16 ips on it. I'm no DNS expert, but I've had two subnets delegated to me from two different providers. I had to set things up differently on my end with each provider, so there is obviously more than one way to accomplish this. The original poster will need to work with the admins at his provider to find out how he needs to set everything up most likely. Susie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 2 8:20:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from richard2.pil.net (richard2.pil.net [207.8.164.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E310714E0B for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 08:20:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from up@3.am) Received: (qmail 91014 invoked by uid 1825); 2 Dec 1999 16:19:46 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Dec 1999 16:19:46 -0000 Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 11:19:46 -0500 (EST) From: X-Sender: up@richard2.pil.net To: TrouBle Cc: aLan Tait , Martin , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Web-Based Qmail? In-Reply-To: <3846989B.6FE71493@netquick.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Actually, for "Web-Based Qmail", sqwebmail is the only native Maildir solution that I'm aware of: http://www.inter7.com Endymion (sp?) Mailman will work as well (it's POP-based), but it's much slower and has licensing fees for commercial applications. On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, TrouBle wrote: > lets see, TWIG, IMP, Post Office, and a few others do exactly what you > want. > > > > Hi Martin! > > > > Thanks for the tip... > > > > The server in question is only "sending" email - the > > daily/weekly Charlie Root reports and a sign-up form for our > > tiny ISP. IP Filter on another box will block any incoming > > mail. The reason is simple, sendmail auto loads with fBSD! > > > > I do plan to use qmail for our email server, but I need to > > find a good web-based "hot-mail" type attachment as most of > > our customers are I-cafe based and can't reconfig their > > machines for pop3 service all the time. "Good" in this case > > means it works and it is free! > > > > Any Suggestions? > > > > aLan Tait > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up@3.am http://3.am ========================================================================= ISPF 3 - The Forum for ISPs by ISPs(tm) || Nov 15-17, 1999, New Orleans 3 days of clues, news, and views from the industry's best and brightest. Visit for information and registration. ========================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 2 8:28:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from Astrovan.cstone.net (mailstop.cstone.net [205.197.102.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9736E14DBE for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 08:28:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from highway@cstone.net) Received: from cstone.net (snowcrash.cstone.net [209.145.66.12]) by Astrovan.cstone.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59789U13500L1350S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 11:25:40 -0500 Message-ID: <38469E85.662EB458@cstone.net> Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 11:29:57 -0500 From: Sean Michael Whipkey Organization: Cornerstone Networks, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Web-Based Qmail? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org up@3.am wrote: > Endymion (sp?) Mailman will work as well (it's POP-based), but it's much > slower and has licensing fees for commercial applications. We use Mailman at our ISP, and I'm afraid I couldn't really recommend it to anybody else. It is rather slow, and the interface...egads. It makes me look for alternate solutions. SeanMike -- SeanMike Whipkey - highway@cstone.net - http://www.cstone.net Engineering Department, Cornerstone Networks, Inc. - 804.817.7000 HEY! Lay off the SeanMike! The man's a misunderstood visionary! - Kermit Labmonkey (aka Ryan Kimmet) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 2 8:32:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from loki.intrepid.net (intrepid.net [204.71.127.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76321507C for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 08:32:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@loki.intrepid.net) Received: (from mark@localhost) by loki.intrepid.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA19668; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 11:32:19 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 11:32:19 -0500 From: Mark Conway Wirt To: "Eric W. Bates" Cc: Stuart Henderson , jahanur , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Media streaming server Message-ID: <19991202113219.C14356@intrepid.net> References: <19991130233743.C25F71339E@naiad.eclipse.net.uk> <199912021457.JAA06092@apache.vineyard.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <199912021457.JAA06092@apache.vineyard.net>; from ericx@vineyard.net on Thu, Dec 02, 1999 at 09:57:58AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Dec 02, 1999 at 09:57:58AM -0500, Eric W. Bates wrote: > > From: Stuart Henderson > > Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 23:37:43 +0000 (GMT) > > > > > What is the best media streaming server for Freebsd. > > > > Probably RealServer, since it negotiates with clients for connection > > speed and so on. On the downside, it does work out rather expensive for > > licensing. On the upside, native FreeBSD binaries are available. > > > > I had good luck with the RealServer, but could not get the encoder to Looking though the bugtraq archive, it looks like there have been memory leaks in the realserver under FreeBSD. Has this been resolved, and is the server ready for production under FreeBSD? --Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 2 9:11: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E153E14CA6 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 09:11:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B69FC1C58; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 11:11:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B34CF381B; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 11:11:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 11:11:24 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Fumerola To: aLan Tait Cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Chat Only??? In-Reply-To: <38468786.2A78E9EF@fil.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, aLan Tait wrote: > IRC TCP ports 6659-6670 and 7000 ... and when I make a SOCKS proxy, ssh forwarding, ssh+ppp or some such thing on one of those ports at work and get a (probably cheaper) "chat-only" account, I'd thank you for the service. If you really want to offer this (in my opinion, stupid) service you'll need to provide proxy servers for ALL of those services and only allow your clients to connect to your proxy machine. -- - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 2 9:35:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from celery.dragondata.com (celery.dragondata.com [205.253.12.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5933114BFC for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 09:35:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from toasty@celery.dragondata.com) Received: (from toasty@localhost) by celery.dragondata.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA28909; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 09:50:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from toasty) From: Kevin Day Message-Id: <199912021550.JAA28909@celery.dragondata.com> Subject: Re: Chat Only??? To: aLan@fil.net (aLan Tait) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 09:50:36 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG (freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) In-Reply-To: <38468786.2A78E9EF@fil.net> from "aLan Tait" at Dec 02, 1999 10:51:50 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > My partner wants us to offer a "chat only" service (no http, > ftp, email) and I think I can do it with a simple filter, > but am having a bit of a time locating the filter info. > TCP/UDP and port info??? This is what I have... > > IRC TCP ports 6659-6670 and 7000 > > ICQ UDP port 4000 (Any others? No TCP?) > > Freetel Maybe TCP port 30000??? > You'll find ircd on all sorta ports, but yeah, you'll need to give them at least ports 6659-6670. Also make sure that ircd can connect back to their identd port. This will prevent irc/icq users from transferring files between each other though, since the clients negotiate random port numbers. You know this really won't stop someone from using other services as well. I could bind a socks proxy or PPP over TCP link to a port in that range, and do whatever I wanted. :) Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 2 12:20:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from seidata.com (mailer.seidata.com [208.10.211.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F4614C0F for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 12:20:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pboehmer@seidata.com) Received: from yaffer (lan-gw.seidata.com [208.10.211.26]) by seidata.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA71949 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 13:41:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991202134057.007d2cb0@mail.seidata.com> X-Sender: pboehmer@mail.seidata.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 13:40:57 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Paul Boehmer Subject: Sendmail and MX error Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a slew of ppl who try to email user@sub.domain.com instead of user@domain.com. Whenever we receive mail like that, we get a 'mx config error, loops back to me' error. I have tried to add the sub's to sendmail.cw, but it made no difference. I know there must be another setting in sendmail.cf, but I cannot locate it and the O'Reilly book doesnt really mention how to handle subdomains. I have multible mail servers, but only mx one of them. Is this a DNS or sendmail issue? Any ideas? Paul Boehmer pboehmer@seidata.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 2 12:30:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from loki.intrepid.net (intrepid.net [204.71.127.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D59AB14EDA for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 12:30:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@loki.intrepid.net) Received: (from mark@localhost) by loki.intrepid.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA06819; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 15:28:22 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 15:28:22 -0500 From: Mark Conway Wirt To: Paul Boehmer Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sendmail and MX error Message-ID: <19991202152822.B19728@intrepid.net> References: <3.0.6.32.19991202134057.007d2cb0@mail.seidata.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19991202134057.007d2cb0@mail.seidata.com>; from pboehmer@seidata.com on Thu, Dec 02, 1999 at 01:40:57PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Dec 02, 1999 at 01:40:57PM -0500, Paul Boehmer wrote: > I have a slew of ppl who try to email user@sub.domain.com instead of > user@domain.com. Whenever we receive mail like that, we get a 'mx config > error, loops back to me' error. > I have tried to add the sub's to sendmail.cw, but it made no difference. I > know there must be another setting in sendmail.cf, but I cannot locate it > and the O'Reilly book doesnt really mention how to handle subdomains. 1) Is your sendmail configured to read the .cw file: Fw-o /etc/mail/sendmail.cw 2) Is their a linefeed at the end of the line that you added to sendmail.cw, if it's at the end of the file 3) Did you restart or HUP sendmail after adding the entry to the .cw file? The "look backs to me" error says that the box isn't configured to accept mail for that domain. These things *should* fix it. --Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 2 13: 8:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.saw.net (brook.saw.net [205.162.201.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ACC6F14F06 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 13:08:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from angelko@saw.net) Received: (qmail 17657 invoked by uid 1142); 2 Dec 1999 21:54:28 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Dec 1999 21:54:28 -0000 Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 13:54:28 -0800 (PST) From: To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RADIUS server: current sessions, radcheck Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Can anyone tell me how to find out the number of current user sessions, and who those users are on a RADIUS server? Also, is there a document explaining in detail the output of radcheck? The man page I have doesn't explain what the values are, and I didn't find much info on it on http://www.merit.edu/aaa. Thanks, -angelko To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 2 13:21: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from segue.merit.edu (segue.merit.edu [198.108.1.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 246C414F01 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 13:20:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from web@merit.edu) Received: from web1.merit.edu (web1.merit.edu [198.108.62.192]) by segue.merit.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D95B5DE04; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 16:16:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from web@localhost) by web1.merit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA05641; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 16:16:51 -0500 (EST) From: Message-Id: <199912022116.QAA05641@web1.merit.edu> Subject: Re: RADIUS server: current sessions, radcheck To: angelko@saw.net Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 16:16:51 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "angelko@saw.net" at Dec 2, 99 01:54:28 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org According to angelko@saw.net: > > Can anyone tell me how to find out the number of current user > sessions, and who those users are on a RADIUS server? Yes, if it is a Merit AAA Server... :-) > Also, is there a document explaining in detail the output of > radcheck? The man page I have doesn't explain what the values > are, and I didn't find much info on it on http://www.merit.edu/aaa. Send email to aaa-support@merit.edu and ask your specific questions about our radcheck(8) testing utility. I am certain we can explain its output to you. The man page is a bit behind the code, but we are trying to address that. I am a bit surprised that the WWW pages are not helpful. I know for a fact that those are undergoing some work even as I write this... Regards, web... -- William Bulley Senior Systems Research Programmer Merit Network, Inc. Email: web@merit.edu Building One, Suite 2000 Phone: (734) 764-9993 4251 Plymouth Road Fax: (734) 647-3185 Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105-2785 Your friends may come and go, but your enemies tend to accumulate... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 2 13:27:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sstar.com (sstar.com [209.102.160.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8BC14ED9 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 13:27:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from king@sstar.com) Received: from JKING ([134.132.75.164]) by sstar.com with ESMTP (IPAD 2.52) id 6714600; Thu, 02 Dec 1999 15:25:15 -0600 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991202152215.00a4b3a0@mail.sstar.com> X-Sender: king@mail.sstar.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 15:25:15 -0600 To: , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Jim King Subject: Re: RADIUS server: current sessions, radcheck In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 01:54 PM 12/2/1999 -0800, angelko@saw.net wrote: >Hello, > >Can anyone tell me how to find out the number of current user >sessions, and who those users are on a RADIUS server? RADIUS servers are usually stateless - they don't have any notion of who is currently logged on. Usually you want to query the remote access device to get this information, usually via SNMP. I threw together a couple Perl scripts that do this on Livingston Portmaster 3's (and other PM's?) and eSoft's IPAD. It would be easy to do for other brands too. Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 2 13:37: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.trace.net.tw (mail.trace.net.tw [202.80.128.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74A5E14F37 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 13:37:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ronald@mail.trace.net.tw) X-Comments: ****** Message sent through a Trace account ****** X-http: ****** http://www.trace.net.tw ****** Received: from localhost (ronald@localhost) by mail.trace.net.tw (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id FAA16913; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 05:37:12 +0800 Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 05:37:11 +0800 (CST) From: Ronald Wiplinger To: Sean Michael Whipkey Cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Web-Based Qmail? In-Reply-To: <38469E85.662EB458@cstone.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Sean Michael Whipkey wrote: > up@3.am wrote: > > Endymion (sp?) Mailman will work as well (it's POP-based), but it's much > > slower and has licensing fees for commercial applications. > > We use Mailman at our ISP, and I'm afraid I couldn't really recommend it > to anybody else. > > It is rather slow, and the interface...egads. It makes me look for > alternate solutions. It has also a big bug, and the author refuse to fix it: If two people using it at the same time, the other one see suddenly all messages of the other session on his screen!!! bye Ronald > > SeanMike > > -- > SeanMike Whipkey - highway@cstone.net - http://www.cstone.net > Engineering Department, Cornerstone Networks, Inc. - 804.817.7000 > HEY! Lay off the SeanMike! The man's a misunderstood visionary! > - Kermit Labmonkey (aka Ryan Kimmet) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 2 14:15:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from Astrovan.cstone.net (mailstop.cstone.net [205.197.102.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A16AB14F1E for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 14:15:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from highway@cstone.net) Received: from cstone.net (snowcrash.cstone.net [209.145.66.12]) by Astrovan.cstone.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59789U13500L1350S0V35) with ESMTP id net for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 17:12:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3846EFD0.F7AF5076@cstone.net> Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 17:16:48 -0500 From: Sean Michael Whipkey Organization: Cornerstone Networks, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Web-Based Qmail? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ronald Wiplinger wrote: > It has also a big bug, and the author refuse to fix it: > If two people using it at the same time, the other one see suddenly all > messages of the other session on his screen!!! That's rather interesting. We run it for an ISP of well over 10,000 mail accounts, and we've never seen it. Of course, I'm going back out in a few minutes to hack on it some more, so maybe I'll try to replicate that...:) SeanMike -- SeanMike Whipkey - highway@cstone.net - http://www.cstone.net Engineering Department, Cornerstone Networks, Inc. - 804.817.7000 HEY! Lay off the SeanMike! The man's a misunderstood visionary! - Kermit Labmonkey (aka Ryan Kimmet) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 2 15:39:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.fil.net (mail.fil.net [202.57.102.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E901E14C9D for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 15:39:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aLan@fil.net) Received: from fil.net ([202.57.102.6]) by mail.fil.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with ESMTP id 128; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 07:37:55 +0800 Message-ID: <384702D1.69A0DD3A@fil.net> Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 07:37:53 +0800 From: "aLan Tait" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: angelko@saw.net Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RADIUS server: current sessions, radcheck References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org angelko@saw.net wrote: > > Hello, > > Can anyone tell me how to find out the number of current user > sessions, and who those users are on a RADIUS server? Were using the Radius server from the ports collection and just type in radwho which gives us a handy look at who's on line (By user name, real name, portmaster s-port number and ip - as well as the time each logged in. It does not say how many are logged in, but with only 22 lines total, it doesn't take much to count! aLan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 2 16:11:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.fil.net (mail.fil.net [202.57.102.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB93F14CCD for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 16:11:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aLan@fil.net) Received: from fil.net ([202.57.102.6]) by mail.fil.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with ESMTP id 266; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 08:08:41 +0800 Message-ID: <38470A07.3B52D50B@fil.net> Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 08:08:39 +0800 From: "aLan Tait" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Day Cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Chat Only??? References: <199912021550.JAA28909@celery.dragondata.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Kevin Day wrote: > least ports 6659-6670. Also make sure that ircd can connect back to their > identd port. "identd port" - Is that port 113 or 194 - or both? > > This will prevent irc/icq users from transferring files between each other > though, since the clients negotiate random port numbers. "Random" - How random? This might be acceptable... "Negotiate" - Does it look till it finds one it can use, or just says, "use this random port" and if it fails, it fails... The "Chat Only" service is a matter of allowing a "cheap" service that will get people interested enough to buy the hardware (modem) so they can later expand to full Internet access. Also, there is a demand, and we are to small to not pay attention. (i.e. we need the money!) > > You know this really won't stop someone from using other services as well. I > could bind a socks proxy or PPP over TCP link to a port in that range, and > do whatever I wanted. :) Well yea, except our customers have a hard time configuring dial-up networking in Win98 when our portmaster will accept all default settings! The idea is that a novice would have a hard time using it... Our ISP is located where everyone is a novice - even me! :) aLan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 2 16:21:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.westbend.net (ns1.westbend.net [209.224.254.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED8114CCD for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 16:21:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Received: from admin (admin.westbend.net [209.224.254.141]) by mail.westbend.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA08428; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 18:20:47 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <00ff01bf3d24$3fbe0d00$8dfee0d1@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "Paul Stewart (Premier Networks)" Cc: References: <384681AC.C400EA23@premier-networks.com> Subject: Re: Gentle yet urgent request for help (FP2000) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 18:20:47 -0600 Organization: West Bend Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: "Paul Stewart (Premier Networks)" > We started into an upgrade this morning from our old Apache 1.2.6 system > running Frontpage 98 extensions to Apache 1.3.9 with Frontpage 2000 > extensions... > > > We obtained the latest port from westbend.net (thank you) and everything > installed quite fine.... > > We have upgraded all our webs etc. and no problems were reported. Even > when we check permissions etc. etc... fpsrvadm.exe says there is no > problems... > > the Httpd process is running just fine with the -DFRONTPAGE option as > well... > > however, any webs we try to access we get an error ( you don't have > permission to access .......) and we cannot basically connect to any > frontpage webs... Are you using suexec? What are the errors in the httpd-suexec.log file? Suexec expects the server to be running as a specific user. The default user is "www", it can be redefined by specifying -DHTTPD_USER=user when building the port. This user also needs to be in the httpd.conf file (User=www)? Were you previously using suexec with Apache 1.2.6/FP 98? Did you build the Apache 1.3.9/FP2K port with -DSUEXEC? > > I've also been playing with some permissions to see what I can do (and > possibly I've made things worse).... no luck... > Here's what the permission of a FP web should look like: ls -la ../www : drwxr-xr-x 11 vir1 vir1 512 Sep 23 21:45 vir1 www# cd vir1 www# ls -la total 18 drwxr-xr-x 11 vir1 vir1 512 Sep 23 21:45 . drwxr-xr-x 8 root wheel 512 Sep 23 21:35 .. -rw-rw-r-- 1 vir1 vir1 346 Sep 23 21:36 .htaccess drwxr-xr-x 2 vir1 vir1 512 Sep 23 21:44 New_Folder drwxrwxr-x 2 vir1 vir1 512 Sep 23 21:36 _private drwxrwxr-x 4 vir1 vir1 512 Sep 23 21:36 _vti_bin drwxrwxr-x 2 vir1 vir1 512 Sep 23 21:45 _vti_cnf -rw-r--r-- 1 vir1 vir1 1716 Sep 23 21:36 _vti_inf.html drwxrwxr-x 2 vir1 vir1 512 Sep 23 21:36 _vti_log drwxrwxr-x 2 vir1 vir1 512 Sep 23 21:45 _vti_pvt drwxrwxr-x 2 vir1 vir1 512 Sep 23 21:36 _vti_txt drwxrwxr-x 2 vir1 vir1 512 Sep 23 21:36 cgi-bin drwxrwxr-x 2 vir1 vir1 512 Sep 23 21:36 images -rw-r--r-- 1 vir1 vir1 155 Sep 23 21:45 index.html -rw-r--r-- 1 vir1 vir1 2450 Sep 23 21:36 postinfo.html www# ls -l _vti*/ _vti_bin: total 3 -rw-rw-r-- 1 vir1 vir1 296 Sep 23 21:36 .htaccess drwxrwxr-x 2 vir1 vir1 512 Sep 23 21:36 _vti_adm drwxrwxr-x 2 vir1 vir1 512 Sep 23 21:36 _vti_aut _vti_cnf: total 2 -rw-rw-r-- 1 vir1 vir1 233 Sep 23 21:36 .htaccess -rw-r--r-- 1 vir1 vir1 477 Sep 23 21:45 index.html _vti_log: total 1 -rw-rw-r-- 1 vir1 vir1 233 Sep 23 21:36 .htaccess _vti_pvt: total 18 -rw-rw-r-- 1 vir1 vir1 233 Sep 23 21:36 .htaccess -rw-rw-r-- 1 vir1 vir1 93 Sep 23 21:44 access.cnf -rw-rw-r-- 1 vir1 vir1 24 Sep 23 21:36 botinfs.cnf -rw-rw-r-- 1 vir1 vir1 24 Sep 23 21:36 bots.cnf -rw-rw-r-- 1 vir1 vir1 324 Sep 23 21:45 deptodoc.btr -rw-rw-r-- 1 vir1 vir1 5616 Sep 23 21:45 doctodep.btr -rw-rw-r-- 1 vir1 vir1 0 Sep 23 21:36 frontpg.lck -rw-r--r-- 1 vir1 vir1 24 Sep 23 21:45 linkinfo.cnf -rw-rw-r-- 1 vir1 vir1 911 Sep 23 21:37 service.cnf -rw-rw-r-- 1 vir1 vir1 48 Sep 23 21:36 service.grp -rw-rw-r-- 1 vir1 vir1 0 Sep 23 21:36 service.lck -rw-rw-r-- 1 vir1 vir1 36 Sep 23 21:36 service.pwd -rw-rw-r-- 1 vir1 vir1 2 Sep 23 21:36 services.cnf -rw-rw-r-- 1 vir1 vir1 114 Sep 23 21:36 svcacl.cnf -rw-rw-r-- 1 vir1 vir1 24 Sep 23 21:36 writeto.cnf _vti_txt: total 1 -rw-rw-r-- 1 vir1 vir1 233 Sep 23 21:36 .htaccess Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 2 16:33:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.trace.net.tw (mail.trace.net.tw [202.80.128.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85ABD14BCC for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 16:33:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ronald@trace.net.tw) X-Comments: ****** Message sent through a Trace account ****** X-http: ****** http://www.trace.net.tw ****** Received: from trace.net.tw (engineer.trace.net.tw [202.80.128.82]) by mail.trace.net.tw (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id IAA18973; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 08:33:35 +0800 Message-ID: <38471027.EBDEB56@trace.net.tw> Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 08:34:52 +0800 From: Ronald Wiplinger Organization: Wang's Trace Tech. Enterprise Co., Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-TW MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Michael Whipkey Cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Web-Based Qmail? References: <3846EFD0.F7AF5076@cstone.net> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------27D376AFF748E5C20F5AC667" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------27D376AFF748E5C20F5AC667 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sean Michael Whipkey wrote: > Ronald Wiplinger wrote: > > It has also a big bug, and the author refuse to fix it: > > If two people using it at the same time, the other one see suddenly all > > messages of the other session on his screen!!! > > That's rather interesting. We run it for an ISP of well over 10,000 > mail accounts, and we've never seen it. > > Of course, I'm going back out in a few minutes to hack on it some more, > so maybe I'll try to replicate that...:) I guided a customer on the phone to use the program, and had it in front of me with my own e-mails. The customer refreshed the screen and said suddenly, that all these e-mails here are not for him, they are all for me, .... bye Ronald > > > SeanMike > > -- > SeanMike Whipkey - highway@cstone.net - http://www.cstone.net > Engineering Department, Cornerstone Networks, Inc. - 804.817.7000 > HEY! Lay off the SeanMike! The man's a misunderstood visionary! > - Kermit Labmonkey (aka Ryan Kimmet) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message --------------27D376AFF748E5C20F5AC667 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=big5; name="ronald.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Ronald Wiplinger Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ronald.vcf" begin:vcard n:Wiplinger;Ronald tel;pager:0943-154953 tel;cell:0935-869459 tel;fax:2600-0132 tel;home:2609-0652 ext. 80 tel;work:2609-0652 ext. 12 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:www.trace.net.tw org:Wang's Trace Tech. Enterprise Co., Ltd. adr:;;No. 11, Lane 96, Sec. 1, Wen Hua 2nd Road, Linkou Hsian;Taipei Hsien;;24442;Taiwan version:2.1 email;internet:ronald@trace.net.tw title:Gen. Manager fn:Ronald Wiplinger end:vcard --------------27D376AFF748E5C20F5AC667-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 2 16:38:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C2A14E29 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 16:38:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tim@futuresouth.com) Received: (from tim@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA11182; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 18:37:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 18:37:52 -0600 From: Tim Tsai To: Ronald Wiplinger Cc: Sean Michael Whipkey , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Web-Based Qmail? Message-ID: <19991202183751.A11108@futuresouth.com> References: <3846EFD0.F7AF5076@cstone.net> <38471027.EBDEB56@trace.net.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <38471027.EBDEB56@trace.net.tw> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Which web-based e-mail program are we talking about here? I've heard of the same about endyon (sp?)'s webmail from a client but they were running behind NAT so I thought that was the problem. Tim On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 08:34:52AM +0800, Ronald Wiplinger wrote: > > > Sean Michael Whipkey wrote: > > > Ronald Wiplinger wrote: > > > It has also a big bug, and the author refuse to fix it: > > > If two people using it at the same time, the other one see suddenly all > > > messages of the other session on his screen!!! > > > > That's rather interesting. We run it for an ISP of well over 10,000 > > mail accounts, and we've never seen it. > > > > Of course, I'm going back out in a few minutes to hack on it some more, > > so maybe I'll try to replicate that...:) > > I guided a customer on the phone to use the program, and had it in front of > me with my own e-mails. The customer refreshed the screen and said suddenly, > that all these e-mails here are not for him, they are all for me, .... > > bye > > Ronald > > > > > > > > SeanMike > > > > -- > > SeanMike Whipkey - highway@cstone.net - http://www.cstone.net > > Engineering Department, Cornerstone Networks, Inc. - 804.817.7000 > > HEY! Lay off the SeanMike! The man's a misunderstood visionary! > > - Kermit Labmonkey (aka Ryan Kimmet) > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message Content-Description: Card for Ronald Wiplinger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 2 16:41:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from thud.tbe.net (thud.tbe.net [209.123.109.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB9D14BCC for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 16:41:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gary@tbe.net) Received: from localhost (gary@localhost) by thud.tbe.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA07398 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 19:41:11 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 19:41:10 -0500 (EST) From: "Gary D. Margiotta" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Apache question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Heya... Well, this might be a stupid question, and I apologize in advance if so... I already have apache 1.3.9 installed on a 3.3-RELEASE machine... I would like to try out apache-ssl on the box also, but I'd like to run them side-by-side, i.e. have httpd running and listening on port 80, and have httpsd running and listening on port 443. (I would obviously have two separate installs of apache with their own respective confs). Is this possible/feasible/smart? I.e. will they invade each other or would they coexist peacefully... Any input would be appreciated greatly. Thanks. -Gary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 2 17: 0: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.fil.net (mail.fil.net [202.57.102.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 398D814EB6 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 16:59:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aLan@fil.net) Received: from fil.net ([202.57.102.6]) by mail.fil.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with ESMTP id 62; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 08:58:51 +0800 Message-ID: <384715C9.69A5233E@fil.net> Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 08:58:49 +0800 From: "aLan Tait" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Fumerola Cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Chat Only??? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bill Fumerola wrote: > > On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, aLan Tait wrote: > > > IRC TCP ports 6659-6670 and 7000 > > ... and when I make a SOCKS proxy, ssh forwarding, ssh+ppp or some > such thing on one of those ports at work and get a (probably cheaper) > "chat-only" account, I'd thank you for the service. > > If you really want to offer this (in my opinion, stupid) service > you'll need to provide proxy servers for ALL of those services > and only allow your clients to connect to your proxy machine. > > -- It is a marketing tool to boost revenue in an immature market where most people have a hard time setting up Win98 dial-up networking with all the defaults! I myself agree that it is a bit of a "stupid" service. On the other hand, the old adage, "the customer is always right" comes in to play. 95% of Internet services where I am are sold for "chatting." The reason is because you can't do anything else with the low quality bandwidth! We charge P40 (US$1.00) per hour for the only serious Internet connections in this province - something you can actually surf on during peak times at about 6-10Kbps. The other five ISP give garbage connections (peak time 500 bps or lower) for P30 (US$0.75) an hour. We are losing money, they are making a profit. The reason is CHAT. CHAT doesn't take a lot of bandwidth, people here really type to each other! (How many files can you transfer at 200 bps?) I plan to limit our "Chat Only" service, say 2,000 bps, via a dummynet pipe based on their IP address (which would also limit throughput to anyone bright enough to use the "cheap connection" for SOCKS). By offering a "Chat Only" service, I am really trying to offer a 2 Kbps connection "restricted" to chat for marketing purposes. I (that is me, myself) wanted to just offer a "slow, low cost connection good for chatting", however, currently people are complaining about the "bad" connections at Speed Online (speed.com.ph) who, according to them, offers "the fastest real time connection direct to the Internet Core" (Whatever that means and after a half dozen pops (and ISPs) just to get out of the Philippines!) Don't blame me for their slogan... I had to go help them with their DNS because they were flooding my NT server (I love my new FreeBSD box with Bind 8 - the first ten seconds of operation blocked and logged hundreds of requests from their network - which they had to fix themselves! Thank You FreeBSD!) I'm told by my partner (who handles marketing) that if we offer a "slow, low cost connection good for chatting" it will certainly be compared to Speed Online "high speed" connection. If we offer a "SUPER HIGH SPEED CHAT ONLY SERVICE" at 66% of their cost, we just might do a bit better! "Super High Speed" being 2 Kbps compared to their 200-500 bps. If someone wants to take the time to connect to a SOCKS proxy and get additional non-chat services, I really don't care because it won't effect my other customers. However, if I let them have all services, where is the marketing angle - designed for the Chat market? If we offer "Chat Only" for P20 (US$0.50) it could really boost our revenue for the same reason people are not buying from us now - cheap connections. At the same time, these limited connections will not drag down our "quality" 6-10 Kbps connections. Now that you have a better idea of what I am doing... Does anyone have any more specs. about Freetell or ICQ? Thanks, aLan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 2 17:10: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.saw.net (brook.saw.net [205.162.201.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 84B2014DF6 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 17:09:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from angelko@saw.net) Received: (qmail 29705 invoked by uid 1142); 3 Dec 1999 01:53:25 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Dec 1999 01:53:25 -0000 Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 17:53:25 -0800 (PST) From: To: web@merit.edu Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RADIUS server: current sessions, radcheck In-Reply-To: <199912022116.QAA05641@web1.merit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 2 Dec 1999 web@merit.edu wrote: > According to angelko@saw.net: > > > > Can anyone tell me how to find out the number of current user > > sessions, and who those users are on a RADIUS server? > > Yes, if it is a Merit AAA Server... :-) > > > Also, is there a document explaining in detail the output of > > radcheck? The man page I have doesn't explain what the values > > are, and I didn't find much info on it on http://www.merit.edu/aaa. > > Send email to aaa-support@merit.edu and ask your specific > questions about our radcheck(8) testing utility. I am certain > we can explain its output to you. The man page is a bit behind > the code, but we are trying to address that. I am a bit surprised > that the WWW pages are not helpful. I know for a fact that those > are undergoing some work even as I write this... It is a Merit AAA Server. I am hoping to find connection information from either this server, or from the dialup server. SNMP would work form with the dialup server (though I only know how to query for uptime), but I don't know to make RADIUS tell me this stuff. The online info at www.merit.edu/aaa continues to be useful, though I'll still need to contact aaa-support@merit.edu about the radcheck output details. -angelko To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 2 17:19:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from richard2.pil.net (richard2.pil.net [207.8.164.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BEC8314ECC for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 17:19:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from up@3.am) Received: (qmail 6100 invoked by uid 1825); 3 Dec 1999 01:18:43 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Dec 1999 01:18:43 -0000 Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 20:18:42 -0500 (EST) From: X-Sender: up@richard2.pil.net To: "Gary D. Margiotta" Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You can have as many httpd (SSL or otherwise) running as your sytem resources can handle if you run them on different ports. As one who has run Apache_SSL and apache side-by-side and is now running one apache with mod_ssl, I like the mod_ssl approach better. On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Gary D. Margiotta wrote: > Heya... > > Well, this might be a stupid question, and I apologize in advance if so... > > I already have apache 1.3.9 installed on a 3.3-RELEASE machine... I would > like to try out apache-ssl on the box also, but I'd like to run them > side-by-side, i.e. have httpd running and listening on port 80, and have > httpsd running and listening on port 443. (I would obviously have two > separate installs of apache with their own respective confs). > > Is this possible/feasible/smart? I.e. will they invade each other or > would they coexist peacefully... > > Any input would be appreciated greatly. Thanks. > > -Gary > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up@3.am http://3.am ========================================================================= ISPF 3 - The Forum for ISPs by ISPs(tm) || Nov 15-17, 1999, New Orleans 3 days of clues, news, and views from the industry's best and brightest. Visit for information and registration. ========================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Dec 2 19: 6:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEEA914FF7 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 19:06:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billf@chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 738651C57; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 21:07:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70508381B; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 21:07:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 21:07:44 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Fumerola To: aLan Tait Cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Chat Only??? In-Reply-To: <384715C9.69A5233E@fil.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, aLan Tait wrote: > We charge P40 (US$1.00) per hour for the only serious > Internet connections in this province - something you can > actually surf on during peak times at about 6-10Kbps. The > other five ISP give garbage connections (peak time 500 bps > or lower) for P30 (US$0.75) an hour. We are losing money, > they are making a profit. The reason is CHAT. > > CHAT doesn't take a lot of bandwidth, people here really > type to each other! (How many files can you transfer at 200 > bps?) I plan to limit our "Chat Only" service, say 2,000 > bps, via a dummynet pipe based on their IP address (which > would also limit throughput to anyone bright enough to use > the "cheap connection" for SOCKS). I don't claim to know much about the US ISP market, let alone any other country's ISP market. However I do know that you should be very straightforward with this arrangement. People don't like things getting watered down without being told. More power to you, -- - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Dec 3 2:49:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.fil.net (mail.fil.net [202.57.102.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA00150EA for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 02:49:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aLan@fil.net) Received: from fil.net ([202.57.102.6]) by mail.fil.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with ESMTP id 251; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 18:49:16 +0800 Message-ID: <3847A02A.34A1970E@fil.net> Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 18:49:14 +0800 From: "aLan Tait" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Fumerola Cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Chat Only??? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I don't claim to know much about the US ISP market, let alone > any other country's ISP market. However I do know that you should > be very straightforward with this arrangement. > > People don't like things getting watered down without being told. > > More power to you, WOW! Do I ever agree! Problem is, by any measure you or I would understand, they won't. Another problem is, every other ISP is flat out lying to them. Finally, there is no truth in advertizing laws effective here, so if you want to say "surfing 4 hours a day will keep you from getting AIDS" - it's okay! (I have heard that surfing 24 hours a day will reduce your risk!) As to "watered down" - how can anything be "watered down where it is a "one of a kind"? Chat Only service is not our normal service, no one ever said it would be. Frankly, most if not all, of our customers use their time for something much more productive, like research or email. The chat service is targeted at providing 2,000 bps for P20 / hr - to customers of other ISP's who are used to getting 200-500 bps for P30 /hr. That can hardly be said to be watered down! If you are talking about the people who would like to use the chat service for something other than chatting - "cheating not chatting" - then they are the ones who are trying to water down a fair price and I really don't have any sympanthy for them... Anyway, enough about that, I already know it is nearly impossible for people in other countries to understand what it is like here. They may think they do, but it is much different being here long term (it took me about six years to learn that - and sometimes I still revert to American thinking). What I am really asking about is not the moral or intelectual aspects, just the suggestions on a simple portmaster IP and port filter... Actually, I am considering just denying the major services, incoming (from our client to us) ports <2000. Do you think that would work? aLan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Dec 3 5:56: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from home.merit.edu (home.merit.edu [198.108.60.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C7715193 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 05:56:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from web@merit.edu) Received: (from web@localhost) by home.merit.edu (8.8.8/merit-2.0) id IAA16789; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 08:56:01 -0500 (EST) From: William Bulley Message-Id: <199912031356.IAA16789@home.merit.edu> Subject: Re: RADIUS server: current sessions, radcheck To: angelko@saw.net Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 08:56:01 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "angelko@saw.net" at Dec 2, 99 05:53:25 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org According to angelko@saw.net: > > It is a Merit AAA Server. I am hoping to find connection information > from either this server, or from the dialup server. SNMP would work > form with the dialup server (though I only know how to query for uptime), > but I don't know to make RADIUS tell me this stuff. I don't want to over-react to your question. We don't support SNMP in our RADIUS server. Our enhanced server DOES maintain state of the kind you are seeking. For simple counts, we usually postprocess various log files. For real time (read accurate) info, you can't beat going to the "horses mouth" and query the NAS using SNMP or telnet (depending upon vendor support issues). Now DIAMETER is another story. It has a built in concept of the state of sessions it is dealing with. But that is a bit off topic... > The online info at www.merit.edu/aaa continues to be useful, though > I'll still need to contact aaa-support@merit.edu about the radcheck > output details. I urge you to send email to aaa-support@merit.edu and ask them your specific questions. If they start to hear what might be termed a "trend" then they will likely consider augmenting their on-line (WWW) documententation to save themselves from having to answer the same kinds of questions over and over again. It is just simple human nature -- a matter of survival and keeping one's head above water in the technical nightmare called product support. :-) Regards, web... -- William Bulley Senior Systems Research Programmer Merit Network, Inc. Email: web@merit.edu Building One, Suite 2000 Phone: (734) 764-9993 4251 Plymouth Road Fax: (734) 647-3185 Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105-2785 Your friends may come and go, but your enemies tend to accumulate... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Dec 3 6: 2:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rs2s3.datacenter.cha.cantv.net (rs2s3.datacenter.cha.cantv.net [200.44.32.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2986D14D88 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 06:02:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luis@cantv.net) Received: from cantv.net ([200.44.47.157]) by rs2s3.datacenter.cha.cantv.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1/1.0) with ESMTP id KAA10104; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:02:12 -0400 (VET) Message-ID: <3847CD3F.64BEAB7E@cantv.net> Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 10:01:36 -0400 From: Luis Moreno X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Gary D. Margiotta" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache question References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello There Gary. With only one install you can do what you want, they will coexist in peace due the SSL directives on the httpd.conf. Try installing the port. Regards -luis "Gary D. Margiotta" wrote: > Heya... > > Well, this might be a stupid question, and I apologize in advance if so... > > I already have apache 1.3.9 installed on a 3.3-RELEASE machine... I would > like to try out apache-ssl on the box also, but I'd like to run them > side-by-side, i.e. have httpd running and listening on port 80, and have > httpsd running and listening on port 443. (I would obviously have two > separate installs of apache with their own respective confs). > > Is this possible/feasible/smart? I.e. will they invade each other or > would they coexist peacefully... > > Any input would be appreciated greatly. Thanks. > > -Gary > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Luis Moreno Ing. de Area CANTV Servicios To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Dec 3 7:15:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from seidata.com (mailer.seidata.com [208.10.211.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 935BC14DC2 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 07:15:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pboehmer@seidata.com) Received: from yaffer (lan-gw.seidata.com [208.10.211.26]) by seidata.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA32815 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:02:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991203100127.007d2aa0@mail.seidata.com> X-Sender: pboehmer@mail.seidata.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 10:01:27 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Paul Boehmer Subject: RE: Sendmail and MX error Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just an update, thanks for everyones help in this matter. It turned out I forgot to add the dreaded CR on the end of the sendmail.cw file. DOH! Thanks again Paul Boehmer pboehmer@seidata.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Dec 3 9:47: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from thud.tbe.net (thud.tbe.net [209.123.109.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316C91504A for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 09:46:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gary@tbe.net) Received: from localhost (gary@localhost) by thud.tbe.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10233; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:46:03 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:46:03 -0500 (EST) From: "Gary D. Margiotta" To: Luis Moreno Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache question In-Reply-To: <3847CD3F.64BEAB7E@cantv.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ok, thanks to all for the quick replies... now, got one more... So, I got the port down, and I'm trying to compile it for different directories and such, but it's not cooperating... /usr/ports/www/apache13-ssl/work/apache_1.3.9 $ ./configure --with-layout=Apache Configuring for Apache, Version 1.3.9 Ben-SSL/1.37 1.3.9 + using installation path layout: Apache (config.layout) Creating Makefile Creating Configuration.apaci in src Creating Makefile in src + configured for FreeBSD 3.3 platform + setting C compiler to gcc + setting C pre-processor to gcc -E + checking for system header files + using custom target name: httpsd + adding selected modules + checking sizeof various data types + doing sanity check on compiler and options ** A test compilation with your Makefile configuration ** failed. This is most likely because your C compiler ** is not ANSI. Apache requires an ANSI C Compiler, such ** as gcc. The above error message from your compiler ** will also provide a clue. Aborting! I know gcc is installed, and good, and I even pulled down and installed gcc28. I even tried to symlink the newer version of gcc to /usr/bin/gcc, and it is still complaining... and the error message it's complaining about - I don't see... (/usr/bin is in my path, and it shows up if I do 'set') I dunno... any ideas? On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Luis Moreno wrote: > Hello There Gary. > > With only one install you can do what you want, they will coexist in peace due > the SSL directives on the httpd.conf. Try installing the port. > > Regards > > -luis > > "Gary D. Margiotta" wrote: > > > Heya... > > > > Well, this might be a stupid question, and I apologize in advance if so... > > > > I already have apache 1.3.9 installed on a 3.3-RELEASE machine... I would > > like to try out apache-ssl on the box also, but I'd like to run them > > side-by-side, i.e. have httpd running and listening on port 80, and have > > httpsd running and listening on port 443. (I would obviously have two > > separate installs of apache with their own respective confs). > > > > Is this possible/feasible/smart? I.e. will they invade each other or > > would they coexist peacefully... > > > > Any input would be appreciated greatly. Thanks. > > > > -Gary > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > -- > Luis Moreno > Ing. de Area > CANTV Servicios > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Dec 3 15:31:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from host1.premier-hosting.com (host1.premier-hosting.com [206.47.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C3D152D2 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 15:31:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paul@premier-networks.com) Received: from premier-networks.com (internal-admin.premier-hosting.com [206.47.86.6]) by host1.premier-hosting.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA04264 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 18:45:35 GMT Message-ID: <38484EFB.486444B4@premier-networks.com> Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 18:15:07 -0500 From: "Paul Stewart (Premier Networks)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Cabling Problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there.. I apologize that this is a little offtopic but I'm sure someone on this list can help and I'm in trouble with time..;) I have an MP16 from US Robotics and a Rocketport controller with DB-25 connectors. I have rj-45 cables running from the back of the MP-16 to the DB-25 breakout box using adapters. The adapters are the problem according to my troubleshooting (hopefully I'm right). I am trying to find someone on this list that knows the exact pinouts for use with a DB-25 to RJ-45 adapter. I've tried a few different ways in case I was backwards etc. in numbering and can't get either an NT server or FreeBSD server to talk via the controller board to a modem. I have another MP16 and have tried that, no luck.. tried different cables... even tried an RJ-45 to DB-25 adapter from one of my Cisco routers and it didn't work (although it may be different for a reason).... If anyone can assist, I'd be greatful... There's pictures of the adapter (on my FreeBSD mouse pad ) at http://www.premier-hosting.com/adapter Thanks for everyone's help.... much appreciated... Paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Dec 4 7:47:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from host1.premier-hosting.com (host1.premier-hosting.com [206.47.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B53914F6C for ; Sat, 4 Dec 1999 07:47:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paul@premier-networks.com) Received: from premier-networks.com (internal-admin.premier-hosting.com [206.47.86.6]) by host1.premier-hosting.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA09038; Sat, 4 Dec 1999 10:58:11 GMT Message-ID: <3849331C.20FB139@premier-networks.com> Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 10:28:28 -0500 From: "Paul Stewart (Premier Networks)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Troy Kittrell , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cabling Problem References: <38484EFB.486444B4@premier-networks.com> <38489942.216B19AA@basspro.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks for your response... the MP16 is made by 3Com (US Robotics) and is short for Modem Pool.. it's part of the Total Control family of products... I did figure it out and you are indeed correct... there was a few other things I needed to change specific to NT (however FreeBSD was standard )... I found a document on Comtrol's websit (the people that make Rocketport) which explained why I was having problems... Thanks for everyone's help again..:) Paul Troy Kittrell wrote: > > I have no idea what an "MP16" is but, since I've not seen an authoritative > and knowledgable response from the list yet, I tought I'd share my personal > experiences. I have in the past encountered proprietary/dedicated devices > that, in a conversion from DB25 to RJ-45, "flipped" RX and TX on the RJ-45 > cable. The only reasoning I could think of was that someone thought this > should be done because the cable between the RJ-45's looked like phone-line > and should be flipped, rather than straight-through like real CAT-5. > > "Paul Stewart (Premier Networks)" wrote: > > > Hi there.. I apologize that this is a little offtopic but I'm sure > > someone on this list can help and I'm in trouble with time..;) > > > > I have an MP16 from US Robotics and a Rocketport controller with DB-25 > > connectors. I have rj-45 cables running from the back of the MP-16 to > > the DB-25 breakout box using adapters. > > > > The adapters are the problem according to my troubleshooting (hopefully > > I'm right). > > > > I am trying to find someone on this list that knows the exact pinouts > > for use with a DB-25 to RJ-45 adapter. I've tried a few different ways > > in case I was backwards etc. in numbering and can't get either an NT > > server or FreeBSD server to talk via the controller board to a modem. I > > have another MP16 and have tried that, no luck.. tried different > > cables... even tried an RJ-45 to DB-25 adapter from one of my Cisco > > routers and it didn't work (although it may be different for a > > reason).... > > > > If anyone can assist, I'd be greatful... > > > > There's pictures of the adapter (on my FreeBSD mouse pad ) at > > http://www.premier-hosting.com/adapter > > > > Thanks for everyone's help.... much appreciated... > > > > Paul > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message