From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 19 9:25:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rhein-main.netsurf.de (dialin110.rhein-main.netsurf.de [194.163.193.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68BBD14F11 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 09:25:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberte@rhein-main.netsurf.de) Received: (from roberte@localhost) by rhein-main.netsurf.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA05885 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 18:25:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roberte) From: Robert Eckardt Message-Id: <199909191625.SAA05885@rhein-main.netsurf.de> Subject: ThinkPad390E: {APM,Xircom Ethernet card} hangs machine To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 18:25:24 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: Robert.Eckardt@rhein-main.netsurf.de X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi everybody, a few weeks ago I got a ThinkPad 390 E (Type 2626-E0G) laptop with a Xircom PCMCIA 10/100MBit ethernet card (model CE3B-100BTX) and an AVM Fritz!Card (PCMCIA ISDN card -- more on that in another mail). It has an 330MHz Celeron processor and a 6GB IDE-HDD, floppy, CDROM. I started with 3.2-RELEASE, tried 3.2-STABLE around 10.Sep., 3.3-RC and now 3.3-STABLE (all cvsup'd). The problems, however, persist: Closing the LCD cover will shut down the display but the disk continues to run (that was different in 3.2-R, where it would suspend too). Upon opening the cover everything works fine again. When I use `zzz' to go to suspend-mode, the computer will wake up on re-opening the cover but hang thereafter. I enabled APM_DEBUG and got the following output: 12:12 gfbadmin13: /root 0#% Received APM Event: PMEV_SUSPENDREQ Execute APM hook "VLSI 82C146." Execute APM hook "VLSI 82C146." Execute APM hook "default suspend." Received APM Event: PMEV_NORMRESUME Execute APM hook "default resume." Execute APM hook "system keyboard." Execute APM hook "PS/2 mouse." Execute APM hook "VLSI 82C146." Execute APM hook "VLSI 82C146." <==--- here the cursor stops blinking, the machine no longer honors CapsLock f.e. and the disk i/o LED stays on. Here I have to power off/on. It is interesting to note that I can still enter characters, which are echoed, until the last line is printed. The same result shows up after using hibernation mode. The memory and screen get restored, several APM hooks are executed -- and it is dead. `apm' shows: APM version: 1.2 APM management: Enabled AC Line status: on-line Battery status: high Remaining battery life: 100% Remaining battery time: unknown Number of batteries: unknown Resume timer: disabled Resume on ring indicator: enabled APM capabilities: unknown I hope someone can give me a hint on some BIOS option or a kernel configuration to fix this behaviour. The other problem is with the ethernet card. After finding the xe-driver by Scott Mitchell I was happy to see that the card is recognized and I can contact the network (10 and 100MBit). However, after some time (5 to 30 min.) the machine simply hangs. This is independent of the network speed, traffic, transferred data, or my activity on the keyboard/mouse. For completeness my dmesg output: Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE #0: Sun Sep 19 11:52:17 CEST 1999 root@gfbadmin13:/usr/src/sys/compile/TACHYON1 Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Celeron (331.71-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x66a Stepping = 10 Features=0x183f9ff real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes) avail memory = 61042688 (59612K bytes) vinum: loaded Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x03 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x03 on pci0.1.0 chip2: rev 0x02 on pci0.2.0 ide_pci0: rev 0x01 on pci0.2.1 chip3: rev 0x02 on pci0.2.3 pcic0: rev 0x01 int a irq 11 on pci0.3.0 pcic1: rev 0x01 int a irq 11 on pci0.3.1 Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: vga0: rev 0x12 int a irq 11 on pci1.0.0 Probing for PnP devices: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 flags 0x6 on isa sc0: VGA color <8 virtual consoles, flags=0x6> Add hook "system keyboard" ed0 not found at 0x280 fe0 not found at 0x300 rdp0 not found at 0x378 atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 irq 12 on isa Add hook "PS/2 mouse" psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 8250 sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1 not found at 0x2f8 pca0 on motherboard pca0: PC speaker audio driver wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 6194MB (12685680 sectors), 13424 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, dma, iordis acd0: drive speed 1377 - 4125KB/sec, 256KB cache acd0: supported read types: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA, packet track acd0: Audio: play, 256 volume levels acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd0: Medium: CD-ROM 120mm data disc loaded, unlocked fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in arc0 not found at 0x300 cs0 not found at 0x300 cx0 not found at 0x240 xe0: probe xe0 not found el0 not found at 0x300 ep0 not found at 0x300 ex0 not found ie0: unknown board_id: f000 ie0 not found at 0x300 le0 not found at 0x300 lnc0 not found at 0x280 isic0 not found at 0x140 vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface apm0 flags 0x11 on isa apm: APM BIOS version 0102 apm: Code32 0xc00f0000, Code16 0xc00f0000, Data 0xc0000400 apm: Code entry 0x0000627f, Idling CPU disabled, Management enabled apm: CS32_limit=0xffff, CS16_limit=0xffff, DS_limit=0xffff apm: Engaged control enabled apm: found APM BIOS version 1.2 apm: Slow Idling CPU disabled Add hook "default suspend" Add hook "default resume" joy0 at 0x201 on isa joy0: joystick PC-Card VLSI 82C146 (5 mem & 2 I/O windows) Add hook "VLSI 82C146" Add hook "VLSI 82C146" pcic: controller irq 3 Add hook "VLSI 82C146" Add hook "VLSI 82C146" Initializing PC-card drivers: ed ep fe xe sio isic IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, logging limited to 100 packets/entry by default i4b: ISDN call control device attached i4bisppp: 4 ISDN SyncPPP device(s) attached i4bctl: ISDN system control port attached i4bipr: 4 IP over raw HDLC ISDN device(s) attached (VJ header compression) i4btel: 2 ISDN telephony interface device(s) attached i4brbch: 4 raw B channel access device(s) attached i4btrc: 4 ISDN trace device(s) attached ccd0-3: Concatenated disk drivers changing root device to wd0s3a WARNING: / was not properly dismounted APM ioctl: cmd = 0x20005005 called apm_event_enable() Card inserted, slot 0 xe: Probing for unit 0 xe0: attach xe0: Xircom CE3, bonding version 0x45, 100Mbps capable xe0: DingoID = 0, RevisionID = 0, VendorID = 0 xe0: Ethernet address 00:80:c7:96:4f:da Add hook "xe_suspend" Add hook "xe_resume" Greetings, Robert -- Dr. Robert Eckardt Robert.Eckardt@Rhein-Main.netsurf.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 19 9:45:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from tasogare.imasy.or.jp (tasogare.imasy.or.jp [202.227.24.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C6AE15277 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 09:45:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from iwasaki@jp.FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (isdn30.imasy.or.jp [202.227.24.222]) by tasogare.imasy.or.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W-tasogare/smtpfeed 1.01) with ESMTP id BAA04590; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 01:45:45 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from iwasaki@jp.FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <199909191645.BAA04590@tasogare.imasy.or.jp> To: Robert.Eckardt@rhein-main.netsurf.de, roberte@rhein-main.netsurf.de Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ThinkPad390E: {APM,Xircom Ethernet card} hangs machine In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 19 Sep 1999 18:25:24 +0200 (CEST)" <199909191625.SAA05885@rhein-main.netsurf.de> References: <199909191625.SAA05885@rhein-main.netsurf.de> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 01:48:41 +0900 From: Mitsuru IWASAKI X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 29 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, > a few weeks ago I got a ThinkPad 390 E (Type 2626-E0G) laptop with a > Xircom PCMCIA 10/100MBit ethernet card (model CE3B-100BTX) and an > AVM Fritz!Card (PCMCIA ISDN card -- more on that in another mail). > It has an 330MHz Celeron processor and a 6GB IDE-HDD, floppy, CDROM. > > I started with 3.2-RELEASE, tried 3.2-STABLE around 10.Sep., 3.3-RC > and now 3.3-STABLE (all cvsup'd). > > The problems, however, persist: > Closing the LCD cover will shut down the display but the disk > continues to run (that was different in 3.2-R, where it would > suspend too). Upon opening the cover everything works fine again. > > When I use `zzz' to go to suspend-mode, the computer will wake up > on re-opening the cover but hang thereafter. I enabled APM_DEBUG and (snip) > apm0 flags 0x11 on isa > apm: APM BIOS version 0102 > apm: Code32 0xc00f0000, Code16 0xc00f0000, Data 0xc0000400 > apm: Code entry 0x0000627f, Idling CPU disabled, Management enabled > apm: CS32_limit=0xffff, CS16_limit=0xffff, DS_limit=0xffff ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ Hmmm... I suspect my change on these segment limits. 64K segment limits is default setting now, but it can be changed by giving 0x40 to flags. Could you try following line in your config file? device apm0 at isa? flags 0x40 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 19 11:32:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mauibuilt.com (mauibuilt.com [205.166.249.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E1415277 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 11:32:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from puga@mauibuilt.com) Received: from mauibuilt.com (puga.mauibuilt.com [205.166.10.2]) by mauibuilt.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA08038 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 08:42:39 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from puga@mauibuilt.com) Message-ID: <37E52B6F.1D0D6D8F@mauibuilt.com> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 08:29:03 -1000 From: Richard Puga X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Ricoh Magio 4G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone use the Rico Magio 4G with FreeBSD? Seems to have alott of great features for the size/price.. http://www.ricoh-usa.com/prodshw/minipc/magio-4g.htm any info would be apreciated.. Thanks in advance Richard Puga. puga@mauibuilt.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 19 13:25:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rhein-main.netsurf.de (dialin72.rhein-main.netsurf.de [194.163.193.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C716F15148 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 13:25:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberte@rhein-main.netsurf.de) Received: (from roberte@localhost) by rhein-main.netsurf.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA06181; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 22:25:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roberte) From: Robert Eckardt Message-Id: <199909192025.WAA06181@rhein-main.netsurf.de> Subject: Re: ThinkPad390E: {APM,Xircom Ethernet card} hangs machine In-Reply-To: <199909191645.BAA04590@tasogare.imasy.or.jp> from Mitsuru IWASAKI at "Sep 20, 1999 1:48:41 am" To: iwasaki@jp.FreeBSD.org (Mitsuru IWASAKI) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 22:25:49 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Robert.Eckardt@rhein-main.netsurf.de, roberte@rhein-main.netsurf.de, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Reply-To: Robert.Eckardt@rhein-main.netsurf.de X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It was Mitsuru IWASAKI who wrote: [...] > > a few weeks ago I got a ThinkPad 390 E (Type 2626-E0G) laptop with a > > Xircom PCMCIA 10/100MBit ethernet card (model CE3B-100BTX) and an [...] > (snip) > > apm0 flags 0x11 on isa > > apm: APM BIOS version 0102 > > apm: Code32 0xc00f0000, Code16 0xc00f0000, Data 0xc0000400 > > apm: Code entry 0x0000627f, Idling CPU disabled, Management enabled > > apm: CS32_limit=0xffff, CS16_limit=0xffff, DS_limit=0xffff > ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ > Hmmm... I suspect my change on these segment limits. > 64K segment limits is default setting now, but it can be changed by > giving 0x40 to flags. Could you try following line in your config file? > > device apm0 at isa? flags 0x40 Thank you for your reply. I compiled a new kernel with the above flags and ... it still hangs after wakeup from suspend mode. apm0 flags 0x40 on isa apm: APM BIOS version 0102 apm: Code32 0xc00f0000, Code16 0xc00f0000, Data 0xc0000400 apm: Code entry 0x0000627f, Idling CPU disabled, Management enabled apm: CS32_limit=0xfffe, CS16_limit=0xfffe, DS_limit=0xfffe apm: Engaged control enabled apm: found APM BIOS version 1.2 apm: Slow Idling CPU disabled Is it from using APMv1.2 or from your flags that now `apm' prints more information? APM version: 1.2 APM Managment: Enabled AC Line status: on-line Battery status: high Remaining battery life: 100% Remaining battery time: unknown Number of batteries: 2 Resume timer: disabled Resume on ring indicator: disabled APM Capacities: global standby state global suspend state resume timer from suspend What happens in the kernel (and where) upon wakeup ? Greetings, Robert -- Dr. Robert Eckardt Robert.Eckardt@Rhein-Main.netsurf.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 19 13:33:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5EAC155D6 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 13:33:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E379F1C2B; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 15:37:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3F43817; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 15:37:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 15:37:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: Duncan Barclay Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-xircom@lovett.com Subject: Re: Combo 100Base-T Ethernet/10 BaseT Ethernet/Modem/ISDN cards In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, Duncan Barclay wrote: > Apart from CardBus stuff which I am not sure if it is supported, the modem will > work fine as a standard PC-Card modem. The Ethernet stuff needs Scott's xe > driver. The trouble is that -CURRENT's sio is broke with pccard. I'd like to see this stuff in -CURRENT, but I assume Warner is working on that too. -- - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 19 15: 7:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mail9.svr.pol.co.uk (mail9.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F77152E8 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 15:07:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from s.mitchell@computer.org) Received: from modem-59.policeman.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.151.187] helo=lungfish.freeserve.co.uk) by mail9.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11Sp7F-00027J-00; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 23:07:25 +0100 Received: (from scott@localhost) by lungfish.freeserve.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA00621; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 22:11:48 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from scott) Message-ID: <19990919221147.39117@lungfish.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 22:11:47 +0100 From: Scott Mitchell To: Andre Albsmeier Cc: FreeBSD-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommendation for a GOOD 100 MBit Ethernet card wanted References: <19990905192333.A34635@internal> <19990908064231.A1059@internal> <19990913003148.29772@lungfish.freeserve.co.uk> <19990914090402.A63360@internal> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <19990914090402.A63360@internal>; from Andre Albsmeier on Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 09:04:02AM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 09:04:02AM +0200, Andre Albsmeier wrote: > Of course, I don't expect 11.8 MBytes/sec as I get when two Intel Etherexpress > PCI cards are talking to each other on FreeBSD :-). But I was quite disappointed > of the 1.2MB/sec with PCMCIA. However, in the meantime I managed to test > the same machine under Crap95 and got similar results. It really seems to > be some hardware limit. > > I also got an Intel Etherexpress 100MBit ISA (yes, ISA) and this one > does about 4-5 MBytes/sec under Crap95. Someone else told me that PCMCIA > would be faster than ISA so I expected a bit more... Guess the ISA card is doing a real shared-memory or DMA arrangement -- with the Xircom card at least the data has to be transferred (16-bit) word at a time. So the driver spends most of it's time in a tight loop waiting for the next byte to arrive :-( I always figured that PCMCIA was roughly equivalent to ISA in terms of performance -- the PCMCIA controller would presumably have been bridged off of the ISA bus in pre-PCI laptops. Someone with some real documentation will know how it actually works though. Cheers, Scott -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | "Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines" s.mitchell@computer.org | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 19 15: 7:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mail9.svr.pol.co.uk (mail9.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C16115932 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 15:07:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from s.mitchell@computer.org) Received: from modem-59.policeman.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.151.187] helo=lungfish.freeserve.co.uk) by mail9.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11Sp7O-00027J-00; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 23:07:35 +0100 Received: (from scott@localhost) by lungfish.freeserve.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA00689; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 22:43:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from scott) Message-ID: <19990919224333.51640@lungfish.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 22:43:33 +0100 From: Scott Mitchell To: freebsd-xircom@lovett.com, Duncan Barclay Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, Bill Fumerola Subject: Re: Combo 100Base-T Ethernet/10 BaseT Ethernet/Modem/ISDN cards References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from Bill Fumerola on Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 06:44:01PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 06:44:01PM -0400, Bill Fumerola wrote: > On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, Duncan Barclay wrote: > > > > Has the re-insertion bug been fixed yet for the RealPort card? > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > Ahh, so that's why reinserting my RealPort ain't working well on the first > > day of playing with it! > > > > I'll give this a bash over the weekend, the code is nice and clean and I've > > got the docs. I might get it to work but can only test 10Mb/s on a hub. > > I have a RealPort 10/100+modem56 lying around here, but only a -CURRENT > laptop. > > Am I to assume that the modem doesn't have a chance of working? Will > the 10/100 (which is cardbus, which I thought didn't work either) work? The modem should work, provided you sacrifice the correct number of chickens whilst restarting pccardd :-) The proocedure outlined by Rogier Mulhuijzen a little further down this thread explains all. I think you'll be out of luck with the CardBus adapter though. ISTR _someone_ is working on it, for the Xircom or a similar card, but I can't remember who that someone is right now. Ade Lovett is working on -CURRENT support for the xe driver but like the rest of us seems to be suffering from too much Real Job just now :-( > Sorry if these are FAQs, I just recently got into this laptop game. I should probably put together a FAQ list on of these days. #1 would be "no I can't help you download the latest Windows drivers from www.xircom.com" (I've been asked to do effectively that about four times in the last couple of weeks...who _are_ these people?) Cheers, Scott -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | "Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines" s.mitchell@computer.org | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 20 0:49: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E5B1571C for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 00:49:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA94575; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 01:48:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id BAA15868; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 01:47:21 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199909200747.BAA15868@harmony.village.org> To: Nick Hibma Subject: Re: further question on the sony viao Cc: lord henry , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Sep 1999 23:57:54 +0200." References: Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 01:47:21 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message Nick Hibma writes: : Best bet: switch off USB keyboard support in the BIOS and switch on USB : conroller (if that is at all switchable). Let me/us know whether that : worked for you. Actually, for the VAIO one needs to turn plug and play OS off before the USB stuff will work. At least that was my experience with the USB mouse I briefly borrowed. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 20 0:50:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73B3915AED for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 00:50:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA94593; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 01:50:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id BAA15890; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 01:49:08 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199909200749.BAA15890@harmony.village.org> To: lord henry Subject: Re: further question on the sony viao Cc: Brad Karp , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:56:49 EDT." References: Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 01:49:08 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message lord henry writes: : HOWEVER, turning pnp-os off in the BIOS seems to have somehow killed : support for my ethernet card w/ : | driver allocation failed for 3Com : while somehow ENABLING hot-swapping -- in other words, it suddenly seems : to see the card inserted and removed, but can't load the driver for it. This typically is a (potentially hard to discover) problem with configuration of the IRQs in pccard.conf. When you disable plug and play os you move the IRQs around. I use irq 10 for my pcic and irq 15 for my 3c589D on my FreeBSD -current VAIO 505TS. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 20 0:53: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 666F0158A9 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 00:53:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA94615; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 01:52:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id BAA15937; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 01:51:44 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199909200751.BAA15937@harmony.village.org> To: Duncan Barclay Subject: Re: Combo 100Base-T Ethernet/10 BaseT Ethernet/Modem/ISDN cards Cc: Bill Fumerola , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-xircom@lovett.com In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 18 Sep 1999 09:53:59 BST." References: Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 01:51:44 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message Duncan Barclay writes: : Apart from CardBus stuff which I am not sure if it is supported, the : modem will work fine as a standard PC-Card modem. The Ethernet stuff : needs Scott's xe driver. Cardbus is not supported. I'm to the point with the pccard stuff that I'd love to have a small group of people help me port the newconfig bridge chip support to newbus. This is a necessary first step in getting card bus supported. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 20 0:54:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38BB615764 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 00:54:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA94632; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 01:54:14 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id BAA15971; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 01:53:28 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199909200753.BAA15971@harmony.village.org> To: Bill Fumerola Subject: Re: Combo 100Base-T Ethernet/10 BaseT Ethernet/Modem/ISDN cards Cc: Duncan Barclay , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-xircom@lovett.com In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 19 Sep 1999 15:37:05 EDT." References: Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 01:53:27 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message Bill Fumerola writes: : The trouble is that -CURRENT's sio is broke with pccard. : : I'd like to see this stuff in -CURRENT, but I assume Warner is working on : that too. The sio/nsio issues have scared me off the getting the modems working path until I can sit down face to face with people at FreeBSDCon or the issue is resolved by the principles. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 20 8:39:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ringer.cisco.com (ringer.cisco.com [144.254.142.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7672515316 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 08:39:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from amcrae@cisco.com) Received: (amcrae@localhost) by ringer.cisco.com (8.8.4-Cisco.1/8.6.5) id BAA18285; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 01:32:38 +1000 (EST) From: Andrew McRae Message-Id: <199909201532.BAA18285@ringer.cisco.com> Subject: Re: Combo 100Base-T Ethernet/10 BaseT Ethernet/Modem/ISDN cards To: freebsd-xircom@lovett.com Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 01:32:38 +1000 (EST) Cc: dmlb@ragnet.demon.co.uk, billf@jade.chc-chimes.com, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199909200751.BAA15937@harmony.village.org> from "Warner Losh" at Sep 20, 99 01:51:44 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >In message Duncan Barclay writes: >: Apart from CardBus stuff which I am not sure if it is supported, the >: modem will work fine as a standard PC-Card modem. The Ethernet stuff >: needs Scott's xe driver. > >Cardbus is not supported. > >I'm to the point with the pccard stuff that I'd love to have a small >group of people help me port the newconfig bridge chip support to >newbus. This is a necessary first step in getting card bus supported. > >Warner Hmm, perhaps I can help. I presume you are using -current? Andrew McRae To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 20 12: 6:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E6515327 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 12:06:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DE3161C23; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 14:10:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DADF73817; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 14:10:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 14:10:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: Warner Losh Cc: Duncan Barclay , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-xircom@lovett.com Subject: Re: Combo 100Base-T Ethernet/10 BaseT Ethernet/Modem/ISDN cards In-Reply-To: <199909200751.BAA15937@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > I'm to the point with the pccard stuff that I'd love to have a small > group of people help me port the newconfig bridge chip support to > newbus. This is a necessary first step in getting card bus supported. In response to this message and the one following from you: I will be at FreeBSDcon and you will have 5-6 or so days and nights of unrestricted use on my laptop. I will bring a plethora of cards as well. This goes for anyone who thinks they can make newpcm and my combo vga+sound card work too. If you educate me enough I could possibly even help with code. -- - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 20 12:31:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 617D615190 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 12:31:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 11T99g-0002xs-00 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:31:16 -0400 Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:31:15 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on a IBM Thinkpad 755C Message-ID: <19990920153115.A7072@pir.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <199909160502.WAA00359@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <199909160502.WAA00359@dingo.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 10:02:18PM -0700 X-fish: < Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike Smith probably said: > Read the documentation; you're looking for the correct flags value for > the console driver to tell it you have a silly PS/2 keyboard. > > I won't quote the whole thing, as you might find other useful > information in there if you have to go look for it yourself. 8) Some time ago I tried every sysconf flag mentioned in the man page on a cow-orker's old thinkpad 340 that we'd love to use as a portable terminal, with no success. In the visual config the keyboard works fine, but even with the seemingly appropriate bit 2 flag the keyboard is garbled later. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@shore.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 20 12:47:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ns.skylink.it (ns.skylink.it [194.177.113.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4943215AD0 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 12:47:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dirkx@webweaving.org) Received: from kim.ispra.webweaving.org (va-156.skylink.it [194.185.55.156]) by ns.skylink.it (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA06048; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 21:48:32 +0200 Received: from kim.ispra.webweaving.org (kim.ispra.webweaving.org [10.0.0.2]) by kim.ispra.webweaving.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA26230; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 19:44:54 GMT X-Passed: MX on Ispra.WebWeaving.org Mon, 20 Sep 1999 19:44:54 GMT and masked X-No-Spam: Neither the receipients nor the senders email address(s) are to be used for Unsolicited (Commercial) Email without the explicit written consent of either party; as a per-message fee is incurred for inbound and outbound traffic to the originator. Posted-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 19:44:54 GMT Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 21:44:52 +0200 (CEST) From: Dirk-Willem van Gulik X-Sender: dirkx@kim.ispra.webweaving.org To: Peter Radcliffe Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD on a IBM Thinkpad 755C In-Reply-To: <19990920153115.A7072@pir.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > Some time ago I tried every sysconf flag mentioned in the man page on > a cow-orker's old thinkpad 340 that we'd love to use as a portable > terminal, with no success. > > In the visual config the keyboard works fine, but even with the > seemingly appropriate bit 2 flag the keyboard is garbled later. I recognize this sympthom, on my IBM 701 CS (with the cute butterfly keyboard) I got around it by using the pcvt console with PCVT_SCANSET = 2 set. Dw To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 20 13: 3:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E7515AD0 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 13:03:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA68164; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 22:02:13 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199909202002.WAA68164@gratis.grondar.za> To: Bill Fumerola Cc: Warner Losh , Duncan Barclay , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-xircom@lovett.com Subject: Re: Combo 100Base-T Ethernet/10 BaseT Ethernet/Modem/ISDN cards Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 22:02:13 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > > > I'm to the point with the pccard stuff that I'd love to have a small > > group of people help me port the newconfig bridge chip support to > > newbus. This is a necessary first step in getting card bus supported. > > In response to this message and the one following from you: > > I will be at FreeBSDcon and you will have 5-6 or so days and nights > of unrestricted use on my laptop. I will bring a plethora of cards as > well. Heck! I missed Warner's message. I'll bring a bunch-o-stuff too. Whatever it takes! I will be actively seeking clues. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 20 13:13: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from cobra.lovett.com (cobra.lovett.com [216.60.121.167]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD1C114BD2 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 13:12:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ade@lovett.com) Received: from ade by cobra.lovett.com with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11T9mA-0003fz-00; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:11:02 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:11:02 -0500 From: Ade Lovett To: freebsd-xircom@lovett.com Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Combo 100Base-T Ethernet/10 BaseT Ethernet/Modem/ISDN cards Message-ID: <19990920151102.J392@remarq.com> References: <199909202002.WAA68164@gratis.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre1i In-Reply-To: <199909202002.WAA68164@gratis.grondar.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 10:02:13PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > > I'll bring a bunch-o-stuff too. Whatever it takes! > > I will be actively seeking clues. Me too; sadly I won't be able to make FreeBSDCon, so the imparting of clues to sunny Texas will have to be via mail :( I'm particularly interested in thoughts about how to implement the framework for multifunction cards though - perhaps as a psuedo 'bus' in its own right, eg: mfbus0: at pccard slot X irq Y xe0: at mfbus0 ... sio1: at mfbus0 ... -aDe -- Ade Lovett, Austin, TX. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 20 13:47:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA9C15AFE for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 13:47:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id ABB111C23; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:26:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F6E3817; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:26:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:26:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: Ade Lovett Cc: freebsd-xircom@lovett.com, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Combo 100Base-T Ethernet/10 BaseT Ethernet/Modem/ISDN cards In-Reply-To: <19990920151102.J392@remarq.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, Ade Lovett wrote: > mfbus0: at pccard slot X irq Y > xe0: at mfbus0 ... > sio1: at mfbus0 ... This is the way that a certain other Washington-based OS handles it. -- - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 20 15: 9:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF3B15B81 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:09:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA97779; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:09:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA20927; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:08:28 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199909202208.QAA20927@harmony.village.org> To: Ade Lovett Subject: Re: Combo 100Base-T Ethernet/10 BaseT Ethernet/Modem/ISDN cards Cc: freebsd-xircom@lovett.com, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:11:02 CDT." <19990920151102.J392@remarq.com> References: <19990920151102.J392@remarq.com> <199909202002.WAA68164@gratis.grondar.za> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:08:28 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <19990920151102.J392@remarq.com> Ade Lovett writes: : I'm particularly interested in thoughts about how to implement the : framework for multifunction cards though - perhaps as a psuedo 'bus' : in its own right, eg: : : mfbus0: at pccard slot X irq Y : xe0: at mfbus0 ... : sio1: at mfbus0 ... I don't like this. There are more than a few multi-function cards out there so the ability for each pccard/cardbus slot to have multiple children needs to be supported... The last thing in the world that I want is to have 100 different attachments for sio1 (one for Xircom, one for 3com, one for hayes, etc, etc, etc). Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 20 15:26:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from cobra.lovett.com (cobra.lovett.com [216.60.121.167]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECDEB15C2E for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:26:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ade@lovett.com) Received: from ade by cobra.lovett.com with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11TBrV-0003ut-00; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 17:24:41 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 17:24:41 -0500 From: Ade Lovett To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Combo 100Base-T Ethernet/10 BaseT Ethernet/Modem/ISDN cards Message-ID: <19990920172441.R392@remarq.com> References: <19990920151102.J392@remarq.com> <199909202002.WAA68164@gratis.grondar.za> <19990920151102.J392@remarq.com> <199909202208.QAA20927@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre1i In-Reply-To: <199909202208.QAA20927@harmony.village.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [cc's trimmed. not really Xircom-specific any more] On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 04:08:28PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <19990920151102.J392@remarq.com> Ade Lovett writes: > : > : mfbus0: at pccard slot X irq Y > : xe0: at mfbus0 ... > : sio1: at mfbus0 ... > > I don't like this. There are more than a few multi-function cards out > there so the ability for each pccard/cardbus slot to have multiple > children needs to be supported... Absolutely. Hence the abstraction to an 'mfbus'. Provided (and I realise this is an absolutely huge 'if'), there is at least some degree of consistency in which the way multi-function cards are implemented, surely this approach offers the cleanest way in to the underlying devices. mfbus would be made up of two components, the generic core to which the underlying devices would be attached, and an implementation-specific part (mfbus_3com, mfbus_xircom etc.) > The last thing in the world that I > want is to have 100 different attachments for sio1 (one for Xircom, > one for 3com, one for hayes, etc, etc, etc). Agreed. Though in this case, surely we'd only have to provide one extra attachment (to mfbus_core) ? More bluntly, what are the alternative approaches? It seems that we're actually at a good point (what with the sio/nsio stuff) to not only work out the issues with pccard modems, but also to work out a good API into the CIS and memory mapping (so I can unbreak the -current if_xe) and deal with Cardbus and multifunction cards. Looking at any of these issues (and the hundreds I have undoubtedly missed) in isolation is likely to cause us more pain and anguish down the road. Judging by the amount of input on this thread, it certainly seems as though there's a willingness to get this sorted, no? -aDe -- Ade Lovett, Austin, TX. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 20 15:27:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25D3E15ABC for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:22:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA97834; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:22:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA21019; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:22:01 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199909202222.QAA21019@harmony.village.org> To: Bill Fumerola Subject: Re: Combo 100Base-T Ethernet/10 BaseT Ethernet/Modem/ISDN cards Cc: Ade Lovett , freebsd-xircom@lovett.com, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:26:37 EDT." References: Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:22:01 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message Bill Fumerola writes: : On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, Ade Lovett wrote: : : > mfbus0: at pccard slot X irq Y : > xe0: at mfbus0 ... : > sio1: at mfbus0 ... : : This is the way that a certain other Washington-based OS handles it. Then I'm definitely opposed :-) Here's a sketch of my world view, which matches the newconfig code a little: isa <-> pcic <-> pccard slot 0 <-> driver(s) for card in slot 0 pccard slot 1 <-> driver(s) for card in slot 1 or the more complicated card bus: pci <-> cbb <-> pccard slot 0 <-> driver(s) for card in slot 0 pccard slot 1 <-> driver(s) for card in slot 1 card bus slot 0 <-> driver(s) for card in slot 0 card bus slot 1 <-> driver(s) for card in slot 1 The card bus machines would provide attachments to both a pccard slot (for pccard devices in a card bus capable slot) and a card bus slot. Multiple children would be allowed per slot to support multi-function cards. It is my understanding that these cards share an interrupt, but otherwise function indepenently. I hope to have something to share for the pcic and cbb drivers before freebsdcon. However, I suspect that hammering out everything is going to take a while yet. I'm looking for ways to open up the development process. Keep your eyes peeled to -mobile for ways of doing it. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 20 15:35:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F7A14DB5; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:35:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA97869; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:35:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA21098; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:35:01 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199909202235.QAA21098@harmony.village.org> To: Ade Lovett Subject: Re: Combo 100Base-T Ethernet/10 BaseT Ethernet/Modem/ISDN cards Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, new-bus@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 20 Sep 1999 17:24:41 CDT." <19990920172441.R392@remarq.com> References: <19990920172441.R392@remarq.com> <19990920151102.J392@remarq.com> <199909202002.WAA68164@gratis.grondar.za> <19990920151102.J392@remarq.com> <199909202208.QAA20927@harmony.village.org> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:35:01 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <19990920172441.R392@remarq.com> Ade Lovett writes: : Absolutely. Hence the abstraction to an 'mfbus'. Provided (and I : realise this is an absolutely huge 'if'), there is at least some : degree of consistency in which the way multi-function cards are : implemented, surely this approach offers the cleanest way in to the : underlying devices. : : mfbus would be made up of two components, the generic core to which : the underlying devices would be attached, and an implementation-specific : part (mfbus_3com, mfbus_xircom etc.) Hmmm, it sounds almost like we're talking about the same thing.... : > The last thing in the world that I : > want is to have 100 different attachments for sio1 (one for Xircom, : > one for 3com, one for hayes, etc, etc, etc). : : Agreed. Though in this case, surely we'd only have to provide one : extra attachment (to mfbus_core) ? : : More bluntly, what are the alternative approaches? I've expanded on this in another message. The basic approach is that there will be a slot driver that can have multiple children. The slot driver is used even in the case of a single function card. That way we wouldn't need separate attachments for single function and multi-function cards. chances are good that we'd need cardbus and pccard attachments still since configuring things is different if nothing else between the two. : It seems that we're actually at a good point (what with the sio/nsio : stuff) to not only work out the issues with pccard modems, but also : to work out a good API into the CIS and memory mapping (so I can : unbreak the -current if_xe) and deal with Cardbus and multifunction : cards. Yes. I've started to come up for air. All know security advisories have been dealt with (the last one is in the pipeline waiting for it to be moved to ftp as I type) so I have some time to devote to this again. Also, the pccard nbk stuff is in the tree, which should relieve some pressure from the next generation of efforts. : Looking at any of these issues (and the hundreds I have undoubtedly : missed) in isolation is likely to cause us more pain and anguish down : the road. : : Judging by the amount of input on this thread, it certainly seems as : though there's a willingness to get this sorted, no? Yes. I've spent a lot of time thinking about how to move forward but little time actually moving forward over the past few months. My current plan is to take the in-kernel pccardd that is part of the newbus code and use that as a basis to move forward. The current pccard code is up side down to the direction that newbus is moving and would need to be fixed or replaced. Given the amount of fixing that has been done to it already, I believe that replacement may get us results more quickly. Given that we have dev/pccard in the tree now, we can start to use that as a platform from which to move forward. I'd like to move forward on the pccard issues while the various drivers we'd be interested in are de-isified by Peter, Doug and the other newbus folks. This will also let us learn what I did wrong it the new bus kludge I did and hopefully avoid similar mistakes in this go around. Comments? Warner P.S. I'm not sure if this discussion belongs in new-bus or mobile, so I've cc'd both... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 20 16:34:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ringer.cisco.com (ringer.cisco.com [144.254.142.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66A6214C23 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:34:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from amcrae@cisco.com) Received: (amcrae@localhost) by ringer.cisco.com (8.8.4-Cisco.1/8.6.5) id JAA25398; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:33:30 +1000 (EST) From: Andrew McRae Message-Id: <199909202333.JAA25398@ringer.cisco.com> Subject: Re: Combo 100Base-T Ethernet/10 BaseT Ethernet/Modem/ISDN cards To: freebsd-xircom@lovett.com Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:33:30 +1000 (EST) Cc: billf@jade.chc-chimes.com, ade@lovett.com, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199909202222.QAA21019@harmony.village.org> from "Warner Losh" at Sep 20, 99 04:22:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Here's a sketch of my world view, which matches the newconfig code a >little: > > isa <-> pcic <-> pccard slot 0 <-> driver(s) for card in slot 0 > pccard slot 1 <-> driver(s) for card in slot 1 > >or the more complicated card bus: > pci <-> cbb <-> pccard slot 0 <-> driver(s) for card in slot 0 > pccard slot 1 <-> driver(s) for card in slot 1 > card bus slot 0 <-> driver(s) for card in slot 0 > card bus slot 1 <-> driver(s) for card in slot 1 > >The card bus machines would provide attachments to both a pccard slot >(for pccard devices in a card bus capable slot) and a card bus slot. >Multiple children would be allowed per slot to support multi-function >cards. It is my understanding that these cards share an interrupt, >but otherwise function indepenently. One consideration and design pattern that has worked here at cisco is to consider the slot/card as two distinct objects, one a `slot' and the other as a `plugin' (the thing that goes into a slot). Separating the semantics of slot and plugin allows separate methods to operate on the slot and the card, and provides a better abstraction for the object definitions. It also makes the code more extensible. In your world model, the plugin would appear: pci <-> cbb <-> pccard slot 0 <-> plugin for card <-> driver pccard slot 1 <-> card bus slot 0 <-> plugin for card +-> driver 1 +-> driver 2 The plugin can be designed as a base class for interaction with the slot (card services, interrupts etc.) and the plugin can have a derived portion to act as a container for the devices existing on the card. Cheers, AMc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 20 21:26:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3D3E15123 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 21:26:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA98897; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 22:26:52 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id WAA22802; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 22:26:15 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199909210426.WAA22802@harmony.village.org> To: Mark Murray Subject: Re: Combo 100Base-T Ethernet/10 BaseT Ethernet/Modem/ISDN cards Cc: Bill Fumerola , Duncan Barclay , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-xircom@lovett.com In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 20 Sep 1999 22:02:13 +0200." <199909202002.WAA68164@gratis.grondar.za> References: <199909202002.WAA68164@gratis.grondar.za> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 22:26:15 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <199909202002.WAA68164@gratis.grondar.za> Mark Murray writes: : Heck! I missed Warner's message. : : I'll bring a bunch-o-stuff too. Whatever it takes! : : I will be actively seeking clues. Cool! However, I was looking for people to do porting before and after FreeBSD con, not actually at freebsd con :-) Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Sep 21 14:15:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F3B5152FC for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 14:15:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 11TXGS-00038F-00 for freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 17:15:52 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 17:15:52 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD on a IBM Thinkpad 755C Message-ID: <19990921171552.D5129@pir.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19990920153115.A7072@pir.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: X-fish: < Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dirk-Willem van Gulik probably said: > On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, Peter Radcliffe wrote: > > a cow-orker's old thinkpad 340 that we'd love to use as a portable > I recognize this sympthom, on my IBM 701 CS (with the cute butterfly > keyboard) I got around it by using the pcvt console with PCVT_SCANSET = 2 > set. Kinda annoying to do an install, though. The only FreeBSD box I have at work is 3.3-S, so I was building a custom kernel to put on the 3.3-R floppy and try. I discovered (thought I'd try it while the kernel was compiling) that using 0x04 with atkbd works fine with 3.3-R on this thinkpad ... Next problem is no spare pcmcia cards that freebsd by default supports, which means PAO, and no PAO release for 3.3-R yet. How long after a release does it usually take for a PAO release to follow ? (I'd like to take a couple of other machines to 3.3-R+PAO, too) Ta, P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@shore.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Sep 21 19:20:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mickey00.mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp (mickey00.mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp [131.206.21.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D4715353 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 19:20:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ohashi@mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp) Received: from atohasi.mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp (atohasi.mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp [131.206.21.80]) by mickey00.mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7W-mickey) with ESMTP id LAA14826; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 11:20:16 +0900 (JST) Received: (from ohashi@localhost) by atohasi.mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) id LAA28326; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 11:20:09 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 11:20:09 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199909220220.LAA28326@atohasi.mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp> To: pir@pir.net Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD on a IBM Thinkpad 755C In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 22 Sep 1999 06:15:52 JST". <19990921171552.D5129@pir.net> From: ohashi@mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp (Takeshi OHASHI) X-Mailer: mnews [version 1.21] 1997-12/23(Tue) Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org pir>>Next problem is no spare pcmcia cards that freebsd by default supports, pir>>which means PAO, and no PAO release for 3.3-R yet. pir>>How long after a release does it usually take for a PAO release to pir>>follow ? pir>>(I'd like to take a couple of other machines to 3.3-R+PAO, too) Which do you mean PAO sources or PAO boot.flp? You can get PAO sources applied 3.3-R from CVSup server. It is under the test phase, but testers reported it is working fine. http://www.jp.FreeBSD.org/PAO/#cvs I think the PAO3 release for 3.3-R would be in several days. cheers. -- ohashi@mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp ohashi@jp.FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Sep 21 19:21:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ucsu.Colorado.EDU (ucsu.Colorado.EDU [128.138.129.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39D1815353 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 19:21:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vinson@ucsu.Colorado.EDU) Received: from ucsu.colorado.edu (brac3-123.resnet.Colorado.EDU [128.138.3.123]) by ucsu.Colorado.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.3/ITS-5.0/standard) with ESMTP id UAA16246 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 20:21:01 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <37E83CE8.1F764AE9@ucsu.colorado.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 20:20:24 -0600 From: Wayne Vinson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: CreditCard2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm having a wierd problem with an IBM creditcard II. Every second boot teh device doesn't work right - it times out every time you try to use it. This happens only EVERY SECOND boot. So far I've tried changing some kernel options, but nothing short of removing ed0 made the problem go away. I also screwed around with rc.conf, but to no avail. Any help would be great. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Sep 21 20:27:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [209.192.237.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A3031572C for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 20:27:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 11Td4H-0004qF-00 for freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 23:27:41 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 23:27:40 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD on a IBM Thinkpad 755C Message-ID: <19990921232740.A15277@pir.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19990921171552.D5129@pir.net> <199909220220.LAA28326@atohasi.mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <199909220220.LAA28326@atohasi.mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp> X-fish: < Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Takeshi OHASHI probably said: > Which do you mean PAO sources or PAO boot.flp? You can get PAO sources Both, actually. > applied 3.3-R from CVSup server. It is under the test phase, but > testers reported it is working fine. Thats great for all but one of my machines (I'm upgrading this laptop now :) > I think the PAO3 release for 3.3-R would be in several days. Ok, thanks. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@shore.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 22 7:16:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B126914DFB for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 07:16:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA03482; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 10:16:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA39005; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 10:16:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 10:16:20 -0400 (EDT) To: imp@village.org Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: pccard modems in current X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14312.57464.309833.688256@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't usually follow mobile issues closely, so I apologize for what may be a stupid question... but: Are PCMCIA modems supposed to be working in -current? A search of the mailing list archives & a scan of commit messages didn't help much.. So, before I embark on trying to get a modem card working in my laptop, I'd like to know if it is even supposed to be possible. It looks like your commits of Sept 6th (pccard kludge) are supposed to allow support pccard sio devices, but then the pccard includes in sio.c are #if 0'ed. Do I just remove the #if 0? According to the commit message from 1.261 of sio.c: <...> I left the #if 0...#endif around the pccard stuff, at Peter's request, so that normal users don't shoot themselves in the foot. <...> Thanks, Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 22 7:19:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (freebsd.dk [212.242.42.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF0E914DD0 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 07:19:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA23561; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:19:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Soren Schmidt Message-Id: <199909221419.QAA23561@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: pccard modems in current In-Reply-To: <14312.57464.309833.688256@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> from Andrew Gallatin at "Sep 22, 1999 10:16:20 am" To: gallatin@cs.duke.edu (Andrew Gallatin) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:19:19 +0200 (CEST) Cc: imp@village.org, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It seems Andrew Gallatin wrote: It doesnt work at all (and havn't for far too long), we need someone with the time to do something about it... -Soren > > I don't usually follow mobile issues closely, so I apologize for what > may be a stupid question... but: Are PCMCIA modems supposed to be > working in -current? A search of the mailing list archives & a scan > of commit messages didn't help much.. > > So, before I embark on trying to get a modem card working in my > laptop, I'd like to know if it is even supposed to be possible. It > looks like your commits of Sept 6th (pccard kludge) are supposed to > allow support pccard sio devices, but then the pccard includes in > sio.c are #if 0'ed. Do I just remove the #if 0? > > According to the commit message from 1.261 of sio.c: > > <...> > I left the #if 0...#endif around the pccard stuff, at Peter's request, > so that normal users don't shoot themselves in the foot. > <...> > > > Thanks, > > Drew > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin > Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu > Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 22 9:51:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3E914E06 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:51:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA07572; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 12:51:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA39314; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 12:50:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 12:50:34 -0400 (EDT) To: Soren Schmidt Cc: imp@village.org, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pccard modems in current In-Reply-To: <199909221419.QAA23561@freebsd.dk> References: <14312.57464.309833.688256@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <199909221419.QAA23561@freebsd.dk> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14313.2138.448257.999789@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Soren Schmidt writes: > It seems Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > It doesnt work at all (and havn't for far too long), we need someone > with the time to do something about it... > > -Soren Crap. I really don't want to have to run PAO & have my laptop different from every other machine I have.. But thanks for the info, Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 22 9:54:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9604D14E06 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:54:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02883; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 10:54:04 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA33744; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 10:53:45 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199909221653.KAA33744@harmony.village.org> To: Andrew Gallatin Subject: Re: pccard modems in current Cc: Soren Schmidt , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 22 Sep 1999 12:50:34 EDT." <14313.2138.448257.999789@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> References: <14313.2138.448257.999789@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <14312.57464.309833.688256@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <199909221419.QAA23561@freebsd.dk> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 10:53:45 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <14313.2138.448257.999789@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Andrew Gallatin writes: : Crap. I really don't want to have to run PAO & have my laptop : different from every other machine I have.. Yes. I was all set to get my pccard modem working when the whole sio/nsio issue blew up. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 22 12:17:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B0E1587C for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 12:17:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA11299; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 15:17:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA39487; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 15:17:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 15:17:06 -0400 (EDT) To: Warner Losh Cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pccard modems in current In-Reply-To: <199909221653.KAA33744@harmony.village.org> References: <14313.2138.448257.999789@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <14312.57464.309833.688256@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <199909221419.QAA23561@freebsd.dk> <199909221653.KAA33744@harmony.village.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14313.2536.951570.889391@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Warner Losh writes: > In message <14313.2138.448257.999789@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Andrew Gallatin writes: > : Crap. I really don't want to have to run PAO & have my laptop > : different from every other machine I have.. > > Yes. I was all set to get my pccard modem working when the whole > sio/nsio issue blew up. > > Warner Assuming one just wanted a modem to work & didn't care about the long term consequences of maintaining a locally hacked sio.c, what would the steps be towards getting pccard serial devices to work? Would it be sufficient to #include a pre-newbus version of sio.c #if NCARD>0 (like what Peter did for if_ed) & beating the result into submission? Or have enough things changed in the last 6 months to make this non-viable? Even a gross hack like this might be more palatable than going w/o a modem.. Thanks, Drew PS: Its rather ironic that I'm mainly an alpha person & I was very happy to see the isa devices getting new-busified. Have a working floppy on my alpha at home is really nice ;-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Sep 23 0:27: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from pooh.elsevier.nl (pooh.elsevier.nl [145.36.9.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423101569C for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 00:27:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steveo@iol.ie) Received: from pooh.elsevier.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pooh.elsevier.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01543; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 08:12:37 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from steveo@iol.ie) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <14313.2138.448257.999789@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 08:12:37 +0100 (IST) From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: Andrew Gallatin Subject: Re: pccard modems in current Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, imp@village.org, Soren Schmidt Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 22-Sep-99 Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > > Soren Schmidt writes: > > It seems Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > > It doesnt work at all (and havn't for far too long), we need > someone > > with the time to do something about it... > > > > -Soren > > > Crap. I really don't want to have to run PAO & have my laptop > different from every other machine I have.. I didn't think PAO was available for -current. FYI pccard modems work fine in -stable. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Sep 23 10:21: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from atena.eurocontrol.fr (atena.uneec.eurocontrol.fr [147.196.69.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7593D15F4E for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 10:21:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberto@eurocontrol.fr) Received: from caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr (caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr [147.196.43.2]) by atena.eurocontrol.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A6314C7A for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 19:20:18 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from roberto@caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr) Received: by caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr (Postfix, from userid 1193) id EE30E3AF0; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 19:20:16 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 19:20:16 +0200 From: Ollivier Robert To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Z505SX and the sound chip Message-ID: <19990923192016.I93763@caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.0pre2i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Someone has made a patch to support the new Neomagic 256AV sound chip for Linux.... Anyway to port it for our drivers ? -=-=- Glubber blarrgh lueggor, me mateys The information below was all received in a dream. Thus it is not entirely reliable; use at your own risk. I am not responsible for any loss that may result from the use of this information--but you are! Many modern laptops use the NeoMagic 256AV or 256ZX audio/video chipsets, which contain a combined PCI-based soundcard and some version of their video core. The audio portion comes in at least a couple of different versions: a SB-16 hardware-compatible version, and a AC97-compatible version. The Sony Z505S and Z505SX, some of the Sony F-series, and some Dell Latitude laptops (CPi and CPt at least) have the AC97-compatible chipset. Here you will find the version 1.0 patch against kernel versions 2.2.5 through 2.2.12 that adds support for the 256AV and 256ZX. Be sure and read Documentation/sound/NM256 before trying it out. It is working well for me (and a lot of other people), and I can't honestly call it piss-poor anymore. -=-=- -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- Eurocontrol EEC/TEC -=- Ollivier.Robert@eurocontrol.fr Telecoms & Networking Tél : 7290 - CS.28 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Sep 23 15:21:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from atena.eurocontrol.fr (atena.uneec.eurocontrol.fr [147.196.69.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 409B614F7A for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:21:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberto@eurocontrol.fr) Received: from caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr (caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr [147.196.43.2]) by atena.eurocontrol.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A924C14C8A for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 00:20:13 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from roberto@caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr) Received: by caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr (Postfix, from userid 1193) id C0CBA3AF0; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 00:20:12 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 00:20:12 +0200 From: Ollivier Robert To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Fwd: Re: Sony VAIO Z505SX Message-ID: <19990924002012.A12625@caerdonn.eurocontrol.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0pre2i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org When I asked Neomagic supoport about the availability of the documentation for the 256AV chipset and writing a driver for FreeBSD, here was the answer... Has anyone tried the same and got this answer? ----- Forwarded message from Tech Support ----- Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 10:35:27 -0700 To: Ollivier Robert From: Tech Support Subject: Re: Sony VAIO Z505SX Please be aware that we are currently working on making this available. At this point in time, we are unable to anticipate the release date of this driver. Please check back with us on a later date. Thank you for your inquiry. NeoMagic Tech Support ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- Eurocontrol EEC/TEC -=- Ollivier.Robert@eurocontrol.fr The Postman hits! The Postman hits! You have new mail. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Sep 23 15:22:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A8015082 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:22:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11UHGB-000Mwn-00 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:22:39 -0700 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: FreeBSD Laptoppers Subject: which version Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:22:39 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i have to do a new install. i have been running 3.2+pao, and have a shot to redecide. what other than pao supports 3c589, hot insert, suspend/resume? randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Sep 23 16:11:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from frmug.org (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9862114FFA for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:11:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.org (8.9.3/frmug-2.5/nospam) with UUCP id BAA24533 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 01:11:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: by keltia.freenix.fr (Postfix, from userid 101) id A13A48711; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 01:05:41 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 01:05:41 +0200 From: Ollivier Robert To: FreeBSD Laptoppers Subject: Re: which version Message-ID: <19990924010541.A86550@keltia.freenix.fr> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Laptoppers References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT/ELF ctm#5593 AMD-K6 MMX @ 200 MHz Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org According to Randy Bush: > i have to do a new install. i have been running 3.2+pao, and have a shot to > redecide. what other than pao supports 3c589, hot insert, suspend/resume? Plain 3.2 on a Tecra 8000 works fine. I installed PAO to get the WaveLAN/IEEE driver though. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 4.0-CURRENT #74: Thu Sep 9 00:20:51 CEST 1999 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Sep 24 2:53:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from york.ac.uk (pump3.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF8014FF4 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 02:53:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abs4@york.ac.uk) Received: from davros.york.ac.uk (davros.york.ac.uk [144.32.134.16]) by york.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA28625 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 10:52:16 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 10:52:16 +0100 () From: Andrew Smith Reply-To: Andrew Smith To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problems with 3Com 3CCFE574BT Card Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I am having problems with a vanilla 3.2-Release + PAO3-19990809 and the small patch from Peter Jeremy. This is on a Toshiba 4100XCDT. The system boots and ep0 gives an error when pccardd starts: ep0: No connectors or MII. All network traffic seems extreamly slow, 15 seconds to ping a host (and lots of lost packets). Doing a network trace it apears as if all transmitted packets are fine but returned packets are lost by the interface. A telnet connection works very slowly. The IP conversation is valid but the laptop is taking an age to process the incoming traffic. Can anyone help ? Many thanks, Andrew ------------ Dr Andrew Smith Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York. YO1 5DD Telephone: 01904-433809; FAX: 01904-433740 This message has the status of a private & personal communication To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Sep 24 5:29:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from in.skynet.cz (gate.in.skynet.cz [193.165.192.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C8E14D73 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 05:29:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Roman.Pavlik@tis.cz) Received: by in.skynet.cz; id OAA05062; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 14:29:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from oyate.in.skynet.cz(192.168.192.136) by gauntlet.in.skynet.cz via smap (V4.2) id xma005059; Fri, 24 Sep 99 14:28:26 +0200 Received: (from rpav@localhost) by oyate.in.skynet.cz (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA25100 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 14:28:17 +0200 (CET) From: Roman Pavlik Message-Id: <199909241228.OAA25100@oyate.in.skynet.cz> Subject: Toshiba Satellite4070, FBSD3.3 and Hibernation To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 14:28:17 +0200 (CET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL15 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've installed FreeBSD Release 3.3, without PAO and return from hibernation doesn't work. Sep 22 15:16:46 tosha /kernel: apm: found APM BIOS version 1.2 apm -Z (standby) briefly blanks the screen, and returns to operation. apm -z (zzz) suspends, but return from suspend reboot machine. The same behavior was on FreeBSD 3.2 + PAO installed. Any help will be very appreciated, Regards, -- Roman Pavlik To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Sep 24 6:12:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from users.anet-stl.com (users.anet-stl.com [209.145.150.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C821550C for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 06:12:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doogie@anet-stl.com) Received: from earth.anet-stl.com (earth.anet-stl.com [209.83.128.12]) by users.anet-stl.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA72812; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 08:11:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 08:11:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Young To: Andrew Smith Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with 3Com 3CCFE574BT Card In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Andrew Smith wrote: > > Hi, > > I am having problems with a vanilla 3.2-Release + PAO3-19990809 and > the small patch from Peter Jeremy. This is on a Toshiba 4100XCDT. The > system boots and ep0 gives an error when pccardd starts: > > ep0: No connectors or MII. This appears to be normal, at least on my card (another 3CCFE574BT, 574B). My patch to support the 574B (in -CURRENT, not PAO) relegates that message to bootverbose only. > All network traffic seems extreamly slow, 15 seconds to ping a host > (and lots of lost packets). Doing a network trace it apears as if all > transmitted packets are fine but returned packets are lost by the > interface. > > A telnet connection works very slowly. The IP conversation is valid > but the laptop is taking an age to process the incoming traffic. If I'm not mistaken, this is indicative of a bogus interrupt setting (the card can't signal the computer it has packets, and they pile up waiting for the computer to just 'notice'). Look for conflicts or other issues. Fire up "systat", look for your card's IRQ, and then start a ping -f or something and see if you get a proportional rise in interrupt rate. A flood ping on my system causes 1500 or more interrupts/sec on the card's IRQ (10). Jason Young accessUS Chief Network Engineer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Sep 24 8:53:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mserv.rug.ac.be (mserv.rug.ac.be [157.193.40.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D04D154D6 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 08:53:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank@zeus.rug.ac.be) Received: from zeus.rug.ac.be (zeus.rug.ac.be [157.193.41.38]) by mserv.rug.ac.be (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id RAA10667; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 17:52:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from frank@localhost) by zeus.rug.ac.be (8.9.2/8.9.3) id RAA11074; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 17:50:28 +0200 Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 17:50:28 +0200 From: Frank Louwers To: Roman Pavlik Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Toshiba Satellite4070, FBSD3.3 and Hibernation Message-ID: <19990924175028.C11842@zeus.rug.ac.be> References: <199909241228.OAA25100@oyate.in.skynet.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <199909241228.OAA25100@oyate.in.skynet.cz>; from Roman Pavlik on Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 02:28:17PM +0200 X-Useless-Header: this is a very stupid bandwith consuming line X-Operating-System: Unix Forever! Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 02:28:17PM +0200, Roman Pavlik wrote: > I've installed FreeBSD Release 3.3, without PAO and return from > hibernation doesn't work. > > Sep 22 15:16:46 tosha /kernel: apm: found APM BIOS version 1.2 > > apm -Z (standby) briefly blanks the screen, and returns to operation. > apm -z (zzz) suspends, but return from suspend reboot machine. Any PCCards inserted while you do that? Frank > -- Frank Louwers Unix System Administrator PGP ID: 0x0AFB3FBB PGP Fingerprint: AB C2 B4 D1 89 62 F6 58 55 94 09 32 C3 6E DE 17 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Sep 24 16:49:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85CED1521F for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 16:49:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA13041; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 17:48:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id RAA51450; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 17:48:34 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199909242348.RAA51450@harmony.village.org> To: Randy Bush Subject: Re: which version Cc: FreeBSD Laptoppers In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:22:39 PDT." References: Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 17:48:34 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message Randy Bush writes: : i have to do a new install. i have been running 3.2+pao, and have a shot to : redecide. what other than pao supports 3c589, hot insert, suspend/resume? I run with -current in this setup. Nearly the same machine, iirc. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Sep 25 23:45: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from pinky.magiclemurs.com (pinky.magiclemurs.com [205.219.88.225]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50AE614D5B for ; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 23:45:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from plambert@pinky.magiclemurs.com) Received: (from plambert@localhost) by pinky.magiclemurs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA37778; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 23:44:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from plambert) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 23:44:57 -0700 From: "Paul M. Lambert" To: Roman Pavlik Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Toshiba Satellite4070, FBSD3.3 and Hibernation Message-ID: <19990925234457.A20784@pinky.magiclemurs.com> References: <199909241228.OAA25100@oyate.in.skynet.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <199909241228.OAA25100@oyate.in.skynet.cz> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a Toshiba Tecra 8000 and am seeing the exact same behavior with 3.3-STABLE (cvsupped on 9/24, with a target of RELENG3). I'd really like to be able to sleep the machine, so I can move it from home to work without rebooting everything. --plambert On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Roman Pavlik wrote: > I've installed FreeBSD Release 3.3, without PAO and return from > hibernation doesn't work. > > Sep 22 15:16:46 tosha /kernel: apm: found APM BIOS version 1.2 > > apm -Z (standby) briefly blanks the screen, and returns to operation. > apm -z (zzz) suspends, but return from suspend reboot machine. > > The same behavior was on FreeBSD 3.2 + PAO installed. > > Any help will be very appreciated, > > Regards, > -- > Roman Pavlik > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message